Fact, vaccines have never eradicated anything, ever

Christina England

For years now the myth that vaccines can eradicate illnesses has existed. This myth was perpetrated by the pharmaceutical industries and backed up by our governments and has existed purely to trick the general public into having countless vaccines in the ruse that they will live long and healthy lives. I want to examine the facts and attempt to dispel the myth and prove that vaccines cannot and will not eradicate illnesses because many are caused by viruses which can mutate as we have seen with the flu virus, thus rendering the vaccines against it, useless.

I will begin by asking the question  – If vaccines eradicate illnesses, then why do they still exist today? The word eradicate according to many dictionaries, means to eliminate, to wipe out,  obliterate. So taking these definitions into account have any of the illnesses we vaccinate against today been truly eradicated from our world? The plain and simple answer to this question is no they have not.

To examine this properly, we have to see if anything has ever been truly eradicated with vaccines,  if so, then no child would ever get these illnesses because they would no longer exist.

On Vaccinate Your Baby : History of Disease Eradication the first paragraph states-

“Immunization is one of the most successful public health achievements of the 20th century. Due to systematic vaccination programs, smallpox has been eliminated worldwide, and cases of polio, measles, diphtheria and Hib are at all-time lows. The burden of other diseases has been significantly reduced .”

Is what they are saying true? The WHO say it is, on their website WHO | Immunization against diseases of public health importance they say :-

“Immunization is a proven tool for controlling and even eradicating disease. An immunization campaign carried out by the World Health Organization (WHO) from 1967 to 1977 eradicated the natural occurrence of smallpox. When the programme began, the disease still threatened 60% of the world’s population and killed every fourth victim. Eradication of poliomyelitis is within reach. Since the launch by WHO and its partners of the Global Polio Eradication Initiative in 1988, infections have fallen by 99%, and some five million people have escaped paralysis. Between 1999 and 2003, measles deaths dropped worldwide by almost 40%, and some regions have set a target of eliminating the disease. Maternal and neonatal tetanus will soon be eliminated in 14 of 57 high-risk countries.”

Significantly reduced perhaps but has any disease or illness been eradicated? Let us take a look.

According to some doctors Smallpox has been seen to still exist even though the world has been told that vaccines have eradicated it. According to Dr Kris Gaublomme, it has simply been renamed and is now called Monkeypox. In his article Has smallpox really disappeared from the earth?——Dr. Kris Gaublomme he explains:-

A new and embarrassing development was the resurgence of pox-family viruses in Africa, known as the ‘monkeypox’. This fact has been known for many years but the public was reassured that this had nothing to do with smallpox and that the human species was safe.

Not as safe as we were told,though, since in the Congo in 1970, pox viruses were isolated from humans2 corresponding to the pox viruses found in captive monkeys in 1958 and identified the next year (3). It was baptised ‘monkeypox~. The same virus was isolated from 6 humans in 1959 by Foster. In 1976, Gipsen reported on more cases in Nigeria (4).

The terminology of the disease became ever more confusing, since what were at first simply ‘monkeypox’ are now introduced into literature as’human monkeypox’. What, now, is the difference between smallpox and ‘human monkeypox’? It is interesting to read in a recent article in the Lancet that “Human monkeypox is a systemic exanthem, resembling smallpox, that occurs as a sporadic zoonosis in rural rainforest villages of western and central Africa. The disease is caused by an orthopoxvirus, which is transmitted to human beings by handling infected animals; serosurveys have implicated squirrels … as the probable reservoir. Secondary human-to-human spread by aerosol or direct contact accounts for about 28% of cases…” (my emphasis)

So, let us make a simple addition. This virus is an ‘orthopox’  virus, which means, literally translated, a ‘real pox’ virus. This virus spreads among humans causing an exanthem ‘resembling’ smallpox, and causing disease and death among the infected (between February and August 1996, 71 cases were notified in the Katako-Kombe area in Zaire, 6 of which 4 died from the disease (5)”.

From his report in Atlanta Reuters (WS) via Individual Inc December 15, 1997 Monkeypox outbreak in Africa biggest ever – U.S. we see that humans can catch monkeypox and die from it.
The largest outbreak of human monkeypox ever reported has caused more than 500 people to become ill in the Democratic Republic of Congo, health officials said Thursday.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said children 16 and under accounted for 85 percent of the 511 human monkeypox cases that have occurred in the former Zaire since February 1996.

The CDC said it was the largest human monkeypox outbreak ever recorded. Five deaths were recorded, all of them of children aged between 4 and 8.

Monkeypox is a sister virus of smallpox and is generally spread by squirrels and monkeys in the rain forests of western and central Africa. Before the outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo, cases of monkeypox in humans were rare.”

So is smallpox really history or is Monkeypox really Smallpox?

Well the article in the Lancet mentioned above, by Dr Gaubloome, according to the Vaccination Information site http://www.whale.to/vaccine/smallpox1.html says:-

“A pilgrim returned home to Yugoslavia from Mecca in February, 1972, with a fever…  In the 4 weeks since the pilgrim first had his fever, 150 people were infected across the country. It took 4 weeks before doctors, nurses, and health authorities knew they were dealing with smallpox… 175 people contracted smallpox [thereafter] and 35 died… these events occurred in a well-vaccinated population.”

Dr. Vivian Virginia Vetrano says in her article Smallpox :-

The authorities claim that we will be safe from terrorists attacks using the pox virus because there are adequate stockpiles of cultivated smallpox viruses in Russia and in the USA to make most all the vaccines “needed.”

It is claimed by medical historians that the vaccination process wiped out smallpox throughout the world. However, the truth is that compulsory vaccination was abandoned because more deaths were caused by the vaccinations than there were cases of smallpox. A slight of the hand trick was used to foster the claim that smallpox was eradicated by the vaccination practice. Everyone who had been vaccinated and who developed smallpox was diagnosed as having chicken pox!

The doctors who were interviewed on recent television shows admit that the vaccine may cause many serious side-effects and that a certain number of persons will develop painful and sometimes lethal sequelae. Yet, they advise that it is better to take the chance and be vaccinated in spite of these dangers.”

So have we all been party to an elaborate hoax, has Smallpox existed all along and we have had the wool pulled over our eyes by our governments and the drug companies to push vaccines? Well it is certainly a possibility.

Bearing this in mind, let us now examine other illnesses, how well are vaccines doing in eradicating these? Not too well it seems.

The whooping cough or the pertussis infection which is a an infection involving the  respiratory tract and is caused by the bacterium Bordetella pertussis . This is a highly contagious illness known to last for a duration of approximately 6 weeks before subsiding. The disease derives its name from the “whoop” sound made from the inspiration of air after a cough. Although many medical sources describe the whoop as “high-pitched”, this is generally the case with infected babies and children only, not adults. On occasions a child may vomit after a bout of severe coughing.

The first vaccine to combat this infection was brought out in 1930’s and was given as part of the triple vaccine the DTP.

In 1991, DTaP vaccine was licensed in the United States. The pertussis component of this vaccine is a more purified “acellular” version, which produces fewer side effects as the original vaccine was identified as having a high rate of side effects which included brain injury and even death.

Harold Stearley said this about the DTP vaccine in an article – (4/18/97) The Tainted History of the DPT Vaccine

“There’s no question that DPT vaccinations save lives; they have lowered the annual pertussis deaths from about 1000 annually to less than ten. Unfortunately, as reported by the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), the form of the vaccine used and sanctioned by the Centers for Disease Control also kills as many as 900 children per year, and leaves one of every 62,000 children immunized with permanent brain damage.”

This makes me wonder if we are swapping one problem for another and if vaccination has been proven not to completely eradicate Smallpox, then do the risks of the vaccines outweigh it’s benefits?

Professor Gordon Stewart an M.D and a Emeritus professor of Public Health wrote much on this in his extensive range of papers on the subject. He certainly felt that there were extremely worrying side effects linked to this vaccine and this included death.

In the article The lies the Government tell when it comes to vaccines written by myself, I have detailed his work along with an expose of a few of his extremely worrying letters written to the UK Government, proving concern about this vaccine, existed, as early as the 70’s and 80’s.

What Professor Stewart was saying and the vast majority of media reports that appeared at the time on the side effects of this vaccine, was worrying many parents and so in 2005, two new tetanus toxoid-diphtheria-acellular pertussis (Tdap) vaccines were licensed. These vaccines are the first acellular pertussis-containing vaccines and made it possible to vaccinate adolescents and adults against pertussis.

So if these vaccines have been so effective, then why are so many children still being infected today, whether they are vaccinated or unvaccinated?

Dr Mercola says in his article on the 15th July 2010 Whooping Cough Kills 5 in California the following:-

“After the deaths of five infants, California health authorities have declared an epidemic of whooping cough, also known as pertussis.

The announcement came after authorities noticed a sharp spike in reports of pertussis, which often is mistaken for a cold or the flu and is highly contagious.

A CDC study suggests that the resurgence of whooping cough is due to the vaccine causing an increased and more virulent toxin”

Of course many scientists and the pharmaceutical industry would argue that this was because not every person has been vaccinated and that if they had, then this disease would no longer exist. However, this simply is untrue because VACCINATED people are still getting the infection?

In July 2006 a whole year after the latest vaccine promising to keep children safe from this infection and three decades after the original whooping cough vaccine was introduced, the Sunday Times journalist Nigel Hawkes the Health Editor wrote an extremely alarming article called  Whooping cough still infecting millions of vaccinated children … which began-

“MILLIONS of British children have probably been infected with whooping cough even though they have been immunised against it.

A study has found that nearly two in five children who went to their GP with a persistent cough had suffered from whooping cough, though very few doctors diagnose it. The results suggest that the whooping cough vaccine is ineffective at preventing infection, but makes symptoms less severe — thereby concealing just how common it remains”.

Nigel quoted a BMJ study saying:-

“In BMJ online, a team from the University of Oxford, the University of Auckland in New Zealand and the Health Protection Agency report that in 85.9per cent of the cases they saw, the children had been vaccinated. But blood samples tested positive for antibodies to Bordetella pertussis, the cause of whooping cough, indicating recent infection.

The team studied 172 children aged 5-16 who visited their family doctor with a cough lasting 14 days or more. Immunisation records were checked, notes made on the symptoms and duration of cough, and blood samples taken for testing. They found that 37.2 per cent of the children had evidence of a recent pertussis infection. The results suggest that the condition is “endemic among younger school-age children”, they say, and that doctors should consider a diagnosis of whooping cough even if the child has been immunised.”

So if this study is correct and one presumes that it is, especially as it was allowed to be reported in the BMJ, a massive proportion of the children who had been vaccinated still went on to contract the illness, thus proving that whooping cough has not been eradicated even for those children who have had the vaccine. This renders this vaccine as somewhat useless in my eyes.

In an article by Barbara Loe Fisher National -Vaccine Information Center she gives a possible explanation:-

NVIC Vaccine News – Whooping Cough Outbreaks & Vaccine Failures

“Pertussis vaccination rates are very high in the U.S. According to the CDC, 84 percent of children under age three have received four DTaP shots.17 By the time American children enter kindergarten nearly every child has gotten all the CDC recommended pertussis shots.18 In 2009, the CDC said that the proportion of totally unvaccinated children in America is only six hundredths of one percent (0.06).19

Even with super high pertussis vaccine coverage in America and other countries like the Netherlands, Australia, Finland and Canada, whooping cough disease cannot be prevented.20 There are two main reasons for this fact.

First, pertussis vaccines widely used since the 1950’s have not prevented whooping cough disease from circulating in vaccinated populations. Unknown numbers of children and adults, who have gotten all government recommended pertussis shots, can and do develop whooping cough or are carriers without symptoms.21,22

Because pertussis vaccine immunity is only temporary and does not last, health officials are now telling teenagers and adults to get more booster shots.23 But that is not going to matter if scientific evidence that B. pertussis organisms have mutated and become vaccine-resistant turns out to be correct.24

A second important reason is that another Bordetella organism - parapertussis - also can cause whooping cough.25 B. parapertussis symptoms, while often milder, can look exactly like B. pertussis. But doctors rarely recognize or test for parapertussis.26 And there is NO vaccine for parapertussis.”

I am now going to look at how effective the Measles vaccine has been in eradicating the Measles virus.

The Measles vaccine first became available in 1963. An improved measles vaccine became available in 1968 and then later in 1971 a combination measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine became available.

Unlike the Whooping Cough the Measles is a virus and is caused by paramyxovirus and is the most unpleasant and the most dangerous of the children’s diseases.

Measles has some very serious side effects and it is these side effects that worry doctors the most and include these taken from NHS website-

  • meningitis,
  • pneumonia (lung infection), signs of which are fast, difficult breathing, chest pain and deteriorating condition,
  • hepatitis (liver infection),
  • encephalitis (inflammation of the brain), which can be fatal, so watch for drowsiness, headache and vomiting,
  • low platelet (white blood cell) count, known medically as thrombocytopenia, which affects the blood’s ability to clot,
  • bronchitis and croup (infection of the airways), characterised by a hacking or barking cough, and
  • squint, if the virus affects the nerves and muscles of the eye.
  • serious eye disorders, such as an infection of the optic nerve (the nerve that transmits information from the eye to the brain), known as optic neuritis, which can lead to blindness,
  • heart and nervous system problems,
  • serious brain complication known as subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE), which can sometimes occur several years after measles. Although the condition is fatal, it is very rare, occurring in only 1 in every 100,000 cases of measles.

So how is the measles vaccination doing in eradicating the measles virus? Again let us examine the vaccinated children. Well, according to recent reports this vaccine also can not guarantee that if a child is vaccinated they will not get the measles infection.

In a report MEASLES : The Real Facts – by Hilary Bulter the spokesperson for Immunisation Awareness Society she wrote:-

“FACT. Vaccinated children still get measles. Deaths and hospitalisations have been recorded for 120 years. The measles death decline graph provided shows that the measles vaccine had nothing to do with the decline in deaths, and has not affected the number of children hospitalised during epidemic years since its introduction. (Appendices to Parliamentary Journals, Official Year Book, Health Department publications such has “Health Trends” and Immunisation Handbook. Also, graphs provided to Herald and Metro in the past)


She goes on to then state some very worrying and proven facts

“*** A similar campaign vaccinating 7.1 million schoolchildren in England has resulted in a legal firm called Dawbarns (dawbarns @paston.co.uk) (0044 1553 764373) taking legal action against the British Health Department on behalf of the following cases:

Autism (202), Crohn’s disease and other serious chronic stomach problems (110) Epilepsy (97) Hearing and vision problems (40) Arthritis (42) chronic fatigue syndrome (24) Diabetes (9) Guillain-Barre syndrome (9) chronic Thrombocytopenia (5) subacute sclerosing panencephalitis SSPE {3) Wegener’s Granulomatosis (2) Multiple Sclerosis (1) Death (14) (Dawbarns fact sheet)

*** The childrens’ doctors and specialists have come out in the media in support of the children

*** The New Zealand, and British Health Departments deny the existence of these cases. (NZ H Dept media release, and BMJ article) and maintain that OPERATION SAFEGUARD eliminated measles from UK. In October 1996, UK started another MMR booster campaign.

**** Deaths from Measles were virtually wiped out in every <developed country before the vaccine was even used.(See disease decline graph

*** Using the Health Department statistics on vaccinating 540,000 children, would result in:

Up to 81,000 cases of rash and fever.

Up to 5,400 cases of parotid (mumps) swelling

Up to 216 cases of febrile seizures

Up to 18 cases of thrombocytopenia (red-blood cell destruction)

Up to cases of chronic thrombocytopenia.

Up to 5 cases of Aseptic Meningitis.

Up to 1 case of Central Nervous system damage.

Up to 15,420 cases of transient joint arthralgia some of these becoming chronic. (pg 95, H. Dept Handbook)

*** Germany does not routinely use the measles vaccine because their reporting system found 1 per 2,500 vaccinees had a neurological complication, and 1 per 17,500 vaccinees had abortive encephalopathy. (FDA Technical Report, 1980)

The Germans considered the risks too high in light of the fact that deaths and disease severity had decreased without any reference to a vaccine. * THE SAME IS TRUE OF NEW ZEALAND, but parents are not told that.

*** That in the pre vaccine era, mothers’ antibodies protected babies for around 15 months, measles was mainly an infection of 5 – 9 year olds, and by 15 yrs, 99% had antibodies. By 1985, 14 % of 15 year olds lacked antibody.( NZ Med J. 27 May, 1987) No-one knows what the level is now, but evidence from America shows that adult measles, which can be very serious, is now quite common.

*** that vaccinated mothers cannot give protective antibodies to their babies, so that young babies, for whom measles is serious are no longer protected. (Washington Post, Sun Nov 22, 1992, and others)

“** that in the 1991 USA measles outbreak, over half the deaths were vaccinated, and most deaths were in immunocompromised people. (Washington Post June 14, 1991, BMJ, 11 May, 1991)

*** that New Zealand doctors and hospitals do not prescribe or use Vitamin A for measles, and as a result, many cases are far more serious than they should be.

“** that in Africa, children who have a natural measles infection have half the asthma, allergies and eczema compared with their vaccinated peers. (Lancet, June 29, 1996)

*** that if children with mild to moderate psoriasis get a natural dose of measles, the psoriasis is often cured. (3 med studies)

*** that babies vaccinated who have maternal antibodies, or people who have measles suppressed with gammaglobulin go on to have a higher rate of immunoreactive diseases, sebaceous skin diseases, degenerative cartilage and bone disease and certain tumours. (Lancet, 5 Jan 1985) If you revaccinate children who already have antibodies what will happen to them in later life?

*** that you have the right to take home the PRODUCT INSERT, and read it carefully before you make any decision”.

Scary isn’t it? However she is not alone in her findings.

In the Indian Journal of Science a study was carried out and reported by Munesh K Sharma, Vikas Bhatia, HM Swami. Outbreak of measles amongst vaccinated children in a slum of

The abstract of this study says;-

“BACKGROUND: An outbreak of measles was reported from a slum, UT, Chandigarh in April 2003. Similar outbreak was also reported in less than three years from the same and adjoining areas. The present study was conducted to investigate and assess various epidemiological features associated with measles outbreak. MATERIAL AND METHODS: Three cases of measles were admitted in Deptt. of Paediatrics, Govt. Medical College & Hospital, Chandigarh and were reported to the Deptt. of Community Medicine for an outbreak investigation. A trained team investigated the slum having a population of 25,000 and studied various features associated with epidemic between the period of April 22 to May 10, 2003. RESULTS: The study covered 484 houses having 1130 children. Among the children who developed measles 32.76% were vaccinated ones. In them attack rate was 3%. Attack rate in vaccinated children went on increasing as age increased. An overall attack rate of 5.13% (Peak incidence 6% in 1-4 years age group) was recorded. Among measles cases, one-fifth had post measles complications. As much as 32.76% children with measles had received measles vaccination in the past. Therefore something more than immunization by single dose of vaccine is required. Measles was reported to be higher amongst the children without Vitamin A supplementation (P<0.001). CONCLUSION: There is need to store vaccine properly and to strengthen routine immunization coverage, Vitamin A supplementation and health infrastructure in underprivileged population. Serological studies among vaccinated children against measles should be undertaken to explore the possibility of second dose of measles in older children.”

In another study by Russell W. Currier II, DVM; George E. Hardy, Jr., MD; J. Lyle Conrad, MD Measles in Previously Vaccinated Children they came to the conclusion that the measles vaccine was failing to protect children against measles, as in this study they also found cases of vaccinated children who contracted measles.

“Investigation of 37 cases of measles in an Alabama elementary school revealed that 25 patients (68%) had been vaccinated, suggesting measles vaccine failure. Attack rates based on a measles history and immunization survey indicated that 16.2% (six of 37) of measles susceptibles who responded acquired disease compared with only 4.0% (20 of 505) of vaccinated respondents. Analysis showed that 17.6% (12 of 68) of children vaccinated at less than 12 months of age contracted measles compared with only 1.9% (eight of 419) of those vaccinated at 12 or more months of age. It is inferred that vaccination at less than 1 year of age may not be effective, because maternal antibody may persist and interfere with immune response to vaccine virus. This would explain the higher incidence in this epidemic of measles among children vaccinated as infants.”

If the conclusion that they came to was correct and that vaccination at less than 1 year of age may not be effective, because maternal antibody may persist and interfere with immune response to vaccine virus then surely this would indicate that the maternal antibody may have been enough to protect these infants and that the vaccine was counteracting a normal antibody passed from mother to infant.

One thing that is for certain it seems that at what ever age a child is given a vaccine it does not protect them from this illness and certainly vaccines have done very little to eradicate illnesses as we can clearly see.

I believe it is time that the world woke up to the fact that vaccinate or not, these illnesses are here to stay and the only thing that is being eradicated is the public’s confidence in vaccinations.

Christina England, BA Hons

  • Tali

    I hope anybody reading this does not take it seriously. Familiarise yourself with the immune response – any 9th grade biology textbook will have it, and your rational mind will tell you that vaccination is rational. This article may seem well researched, but I’ve checked the sources, and the reporter is guilty of picking out evidence that suits her argument, and does not even try in any serious way to present both sides of the argument. It is a pile of biased clap-trap. I’d suggest any parents who are considering not vaccinating think of their child before themselves, and imagine life with a child who has polio or pertussis – surely this will scream to you that vaccination is much better than illness. True, vaccinated people get these illnesses, but it is not as detrimental as those who are not vaccinated. I have personal experience – I had adult pertussis, which I caught off someone who hadn’t been vaccinated. I recovered within 3 weeks, the unvaccinated person nearly died. I’m not alone in this experience either. Also, don’t take their statistics at face value – they are not taken using representative samples, and I’m guessing are not analysed using any reputable statistical software package. These anti-vaccination organisations are not medical professionals – hell, this person doesn’t even reveal her credentials, and thus should NOT be handing out medical advice. Doctors and scientists are experts on vaccination, anti-vaccination lobbyists aren’t. They’re scaremongers who read articles on google and the odd medical journal and pick out quotes that support their view. Please ignore this rubbish. Don’t risk your child(ren)’s lives for somebody with no credentials, who could be anybody, writing articles on the internet.

  • Your comment is ironic since you, yourself do not identify yourself nor qualify yourself to pass judgment on Christina.

  • @ Tali

    I would like to make one more observation as your comments are revealing.

    You have the erroneous belief that in order to open a “holy” medical book and read “holy” medical literature that one needs to be a “man of the cloth”, if you will.

    Intelligent people need to draw the line somewhere and your comments clearly cross the line in many regards.

    For example, I’m glad you cited polio. Polio causes acute flaccid paralysis. According to the book Vaccines 4th edition on page 657, Table 25-2, so do many other things.


    Is it really a good idea to go back one thousand years where only the Elite could read and interpret the “holy” literature for everyone else?

  • D Barnes

    Once again, we have a pro-vac person telling us how we’ve done (or not done) our research and making broad, sweeping assumptions that we’re all just gullible fearful idiots who read a line on google, and make a life-changing decision based on that.

    If Tali had done their own research, they’d know that there are VOLUMES of information about vaccination, from professional people: from doctors, researchers, pharmacists, chiropractors, specialists, neuro-surgeons, gastro-intestinal specialists, etc. These are HIGHLY educated and intelligent people who are sharing their knowledge about vaccine failure, damage, and mortality.

    There have been numerous studies done, and selecting from among these to demonstrate a point is not “picking and choosing”. It’s selecting the best researched information to illustrate a point, to show a fact, to make a statement., TO EDUCATE. Tali seems to not know the difference.

    I applaud and support the well-researched information provided on this site and from the many people of integrity who come forward to share this knowledge.

    Too many people have been hurt from vaccines, too many innocent babies have been damaged or killed from reactions to poisonous and toxic vaccine ingredients.

    One CANNOT gain health by implementing causes for sickness. It’s common sense. You do not ingest or inject poison in at attempt to create health.

  • Becka

    Sobasically what this article is saying, is that it’s better to have a dead kid, than a vaccinated one. I also hope people do not take this eriously and do something stupid like NOT vaccinating your kid. If you choose not to vaccinate your child, and your child catches smallpox or some other vaccination preventable disease… YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE. They can get you for neglect, and take your other kids. Don’t be a freaking deebag… get the damn vaccinations.

  • Let me clear up a few points here.

    Firstly – This site is called Vaccination Truth and we aim to give you the side of vaccination that the Governments and Big Pharma choose not to.

    Secondly – If you want to read what the Governments and Pharmaceutical Industries choose to tell you, then I suggest you go to their sites, where they have a huge array of the type of information and material that it appears you wish to read.

    Thirdly – Have I, at any time, mentioned in my article anything about being anti vaccination or not to vaccinate your child? Please do not jump to conclusions. I would like to point out that if you do choose to vaccinate, then single vaccines, mercury free vaccines or homoeopathic vaccines may be alternative options.

    Lastly – As a mother of two children with Autism both who became Autistic after vaccination, I feel I am qualified even without a medical degree, however, I do have other degrees including Philosophy of Religion and an A’Level Psychology specialising in ethics.

    Incidently my youngest fully vaccinated child did get whooping cough which did nearly kill him.

    Christina England

  • Rick
  • Ryan

    “Sobasically what this article is saying, is that it’s better to have a dead kid, than a vaccinated one. I also hope people do not take this eriously and do something stupid like NOT vaccinating your kid. If you choose not to vaccinate your child, and your child catches smallpox or some other vaccination preventable disease… YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE. They can get you for neglect, and take your other kids. Don’t be a freaking deebag… get the damn vaccinations.”

    This pretty much sums up our Orwillan State.

  • Norm

    Very Very interesting. I’ve known vaccines are not that good for you, specially for kids, for quite some time but haven’t had the time to fully study the reasons why. The elites that Jeffry John Aufderheide stated are so evil and yet they have you believe in them because they think they are GOD’s Elites and government, Monarchy are all connected through bloodlines, they only want their kind to survive. But that’s another topic for another time and place.

    Yes 1000 years ago or so, people that lived with the land didn’t need vaccines because they could get medicine from the land. I come from south Asia and my parents have always used organics everytime I was sick or vomitting.

    Now, here in the land down under (Australia), one little cough or sneeze from your kid and it’s straight to the doctors.
    People are being urbanised and falling ignorant to the land and ignorant about how important it is to grow with the land.

    I’m ranting now. Good day to you all =)

  • Gavin Wallis

    @ Becka; You obviously didn’t read the article did you? Or perhaps you couldn’t understand what you read?

    As an example:
    Not vaccinating kills a 1,000;
    Vaccinating kills 10 + 900, and induces brain damage in 5,000 more (taking the population of the USA)

    So you save 90 lives in total, but introduce a new problem of 5,000 children growing up with a severe handicap through the rest of their lives;

    Perhaps Becka highly educated parents like me who are responsible for our children, are looking to make the best decision on behalf of our children prefer to look at both sides of the argument, and then make an informed decision. As a responsible parent, I don’t think I like the “solution” being offered to me by the mainstreams, so I will wait and in the meanwhile, I will ensure my child gets all the vitamins and nutrients required to give his body the best possible start.

  • Gavin Wallis

    @Tali: Your argument pulls at heart strings, and emotional decisions (as does the advertising for these products!). Do you not realise that the experience of life contains suffering anyway? There is no such thing as utopia / paradise on this earth no matter how diligently we search for it, so perhaps you should stop looking and start coping?

    The fact is that by “alleviating” some of the pain of these natural diseases to which the human race has survived for millennia, our modern western world are in fact causing our children to become much more vulnerable to either the same diseases at a time in their life when the consequences are much more detrimental to them, or we are creating new diseases that ensure life long disadvantage and pain.

    I would encourage you to read around this subject as fully as you can, with a less emotional and more objective focus.

  • Catherine

    I have witnessed first hand the damge vaccines have done to children. I am grateful to Dr Hilary Webb for explaining why children with allergies to eggs etc should never receive these vaccines.
    My son got the vaccines and has numerous problems since. My daughter got no vaccines ever and has never visited a doctor.
    I have witnessed 2 boys become autistic within days of receiving the vaccines and their parents scream at me for not alerting them to the dangers. I had, but they thought I was crazy as propaganda leads the sheeple to believe Corporate State knows best. In reality the medical profession is like the mafia now. Once the patriarchal system had experminated the witches- healers- doing it for free- then money took over and now controls everything.On birth we are all registered- bonded in slavery and do not even know it. Time to wake up and trust OURSELVES.

  • Catherine

    The elite do not vaccinate their own children. I wonder why?

  • Omega

    Dear Tali:

    You are obviously not familiar with the immune response. I suggest you try researching above the Grade 9 textbook level.

    #1. As you know, vaccines do not IMMUNIZE, they SENSITIZE at best. If vaccines did what they claim to do, there would be no need for subsequent booster shots.

    #2. Show me the proof that increased antibody titer translates to increased immunity from viral disease, which is the pseudo-scientific gauge the pharmaceutical companies use to ‘prove’ their efficacy. If you recall your 2nd year university immunology course, you will know that it is the cellular immune response (i.e. T-cells and other leucocytes) that is ultimately responsible for destroying and clearing an infection. Your humoral response (i.e. your B-cell antibody factories) may be necessary for identification of a foreign pathogen, but without a healthy T-cell response, the infection is going nowhere. Just because a vaccine appears to increase the concentration of a particular antibody, this does not translate into vaccine efficacy. There are no independent, double-blind studies that prove the efficacy of vaccines. The pharmaceutical companies themselves know this, and that is why, for example, Glaxo (maker of FLUARIX H1N1 vaccine) and other manufacturers state the following in their own medical inserts to doctors:

    “No controlled trials demonstrating a decrease in influenza disease after vaccination with FLUARIX have been performed.”

    The same is true for most vaccines.

    #3. Vaccination does not preclude contamination. If you are familiar with viral ecology, you would know that any sort of vaccine or natural immunity for that matter does not prevent 3rd party transmission of viral load. Vaccinated individuals are just as much carriers as anyone else. Just because you show no symptoms of disease, this does not mean you can not transmit infectious particles. That you should have known before Grade 9.

    You can always identify the ignorant ones that parrot the main-stream-media about the threat that unvaccinated individuals pose to vaccinated individuls. It is actually those who are vaccinated that pose a threat to those who are not. Read #4 below.

    #4. Most vaccine cell lines, especially Sabin’s and Salk’s Polio vaccine and the Hepatitis B vaccine, are known to be contaminated with other viral species, especially SV40 (known to cause cancer in every animal study). If you do not believe this, just read Sabin’s own work, or listen to the words of Dr. Maurice Hilleman who actually developed the Hep-B vaccine, which was given to homosexual men in 1970s.

    Sabin’s Polio vaccine is an oral live-virus preparation. Let me repeat that so it sinks in to your head… A LIVE VIRUS vaccine. You are being given the disease to prevent the disease. Ah, 21st century science at its best. So the individual who would statistically in all likelihood not have had contact with the Polio virus, under natural conditions, is now being gauranteed exposure to the live virus by having it injected no less directly into their blood-stream.

    And yes, the vaccinated individual can go on to spread their man-made infection to others who were not vaccinated. In the meantime, they are not just spreading the Polio virus where it would natural not be found, but they are also spreading an unkown number of other viral contimants, not to mention bacterial and mycoplasmic DNA titers.

    #5. Where are your studies that prove that vaccinated individuals live healthier lives than unvaccinated individuals? Don’t bother searching. There are none, and there never will be, at least by the phgarmaceutical industry.

    #6. In some cities in Europe a full 100% of school children have been vaccinated against pertussis, and there have been epidemics every year since. Why?

    #7. Show me the science that proves injecting whole proteins directly into the bloodstream (i.e. viral antigens) is healthy. If you had gone past Grade 9 science, you would know that there is a reason why we digest food in our guts and not inject soup and crackers directly into our bloodstream. If you are familiar with the typical route of exposure to pathogens for the human body, you would know that viruses first encounter the body’s mucous membranes (i.e. mouth, nose, genitals, etc). This is where the antibody response is initiated, not in the bloodstream. When you by-pass the natural physiological barriers and inject viral antigens directly into the bloodstream, the immune system is short-circuited and the immune system is compromised. Auto-immune responses can develop to one’s own indigenous proteins if they are present in association with the viral antigens (for example Squalene complexed with viral lipo-proteins).

    This is just the tip of the iceberg my friend. You need to go back to school.

    And don’t forget your general practitioner family doctor is likely ignorant of microbiology and vaccinology. They do what they are told by the pharmaceutical companies. My wife knows first hand, since she use to work for a large pharma company. She would always comment to me about how ignorant, wilfull or otherwise, the doctor’s were on the subject of vaccines and viral ecology.

    By-the-way, if credentials are your brief, why don’t you see what the former head of Health Canada’s safety committee, Dr. Shiv Chopra (who has a PhD in Microbiology) has to say about vaccines. Keep in mind he is a Fellow of The World Health Organization. He has been studying the damaging effects of vaccines for longer than you have probably been alive.

    Oh and I do have more than a Grade 9 passing knowledge on the subject. I don’t claim to be an expert, but a B.Sc. with a major in Virology and Immunology does give me the ability to assess Big Pharma’s claims and to know that what the masses are being told about their deadly vaccines is pure fantasy. Many other well-informed doctors and researchers are aware of the dangers that vaccines pose but are not willing to be outspoken on the issue for fear of reprisals from those who provide them their perks (i.e. bursaries, endowments, incentives, etc.) for using and promoting vaccines.

    There is so much more that could be said on this subject, but suffice to say you need to do some earnest independent research, for the sake of your own health.

  • Thank you Omega some very good information for our Tali who seemed to disappear. I am not medically trained as it is not a requirement for journalism these days :)

    I would also like to thank Rick for his brilliant links.


  • Omega

    Dear Christina:

    I meant to thank you for a great article and for your valiant efforts to have a fair, informed debate by exposing the other side of the story that Big Pharma does not want people like Tali knowing.

    My wife had also had the pertussis vaccine as a child, and sure enough she developed full-blown whooping cough a week later.

    Sadly, in my humble opinion, the pertussis vaccine is the only reason why the disease is still so prevalent.

    Thanks again for your efforts and lets keep the information flowing.

    @TALI: P.S. Don’t be afraid to hear the whole story, not just what the vested main-stream-media pilfers. Here are a few starter links if you have the courage:


  • Based on the extensive study of orthodox medical research literature, all vaccines do NOT prevent any diseases, they increase susceptibility to related and unrelated diseases and conditions and destroy the immune and other systems of animal and human bodies. The only immunity is natural immunity, achieved by contracting the natural diseases (meningitis, ia, is not a natural disease but the result of a serious immunosuppression caused by all any vaccines), without their mismanagement by the administration of antibiotics, painkillers and anti-pyretics.

    Parents, people, educate yourself about health and disease dynamics and stop trusting doctors who withhold the truth from you and lie to you to achieve monetary remuneration by assuring high vaccination compliance.

  • Christina England

    Thank you all for comments.

    May I say a special thank you to Dr Scheibner for her input here I would also like to say to her that I follow much of her work especially on the SBS issues and really admire her.

    Thank you all


  • Karen Bashista

    Hello Christina,

    I am just now reading this. I was fired from the hospital I worked in for seven plus years. I have been an RN for 38 plus years and never taken a flu vaccine. I was vaccined as a child for dpt. The hospital I worked for accepted a declination form for religious reasons but it was dictated this year that those forms were no longer accepted. I met with an epidemiologist whose job was to convince me to take the combination flu vaccine and tdap vaccines. I refused and was terminated on Monday Jan 10, 2011 and the reason was for Misconduct. Just a note, I have had exceeding expectation evaluations in the years at this hospital.
    God Bless You,

  • Karen Bashista

    Hello Christina,

    I am just now reading this. I was fired from the hospital I worked in for seven plus years. I have been an RN for 38 plus years and never taken a flu vaccine. I was vaccined as a child for dpt. The hospital I worked for accepted a declination form for religious reasons but it was dictated this year that those forms were no longer accepted. I met with an epidemiologist whose job was to convince me to take the combination flu vaccine and tdap vaccines. I refused and was terminated on Monday Jan 10, 2011 and the reason was for Misconduct. Just a note, I have had exceeding expectation evaluations in the years at this hospital.
    God Bless You,

  • Jake Derr

    @Karen Bashista – I am so sorry you lost your job! I feel terrible for you & I hope everything works out well for you in the end. At least your safety will not be an issue for your refusal of vaccines. I wonder, however, if they can legally not accept the refusal of vaccinations on religious grounds. It seems that this would be a violation of Constitutional Rights. I have been fortunately able to refuse vaccinations for my children on religious grounds because we do not accept blood transfusions or blood products in accordance with Acts 15:19, 20. Even if this is not your religious belief, I can’t imagine that failure to vaccinate can legally be used for dismissal from a job. That in itself seems unconstitutional.

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  • Sdoudnas

    Excellent work. Keep up the good work.  I am on of the .06 % who have never had a single vaccination.  In fact, I’ve never had a shot of any kind.  At 48 yoa, I am in excellent health,( no asthma, allergies, arthritides, bipolar disorders, auto immune disorders, diabetes, fibromyalgia, crohn’s, ulcerative colitis, chronic fatigue syndrome, cancers, etc. ) and have taken pain killers only once and that was when I broke my collar-bone.  I’ve only taken antibiotics on two occasions and that was due to mononucleosis and strep throat.  I came down with these because of too much partying, studying and working and not enough rest.  I also have 5 brothers who can say pretty much the same.  We have 14 children between us (myself and 5 brothers), none of which have had shot of any kind.  None are on meds of any kind.  None of them have allergies, asthma, ADD, ADHD, cancer, etc., etc.  And to those of you who will try to say we benefit from herd immunity, I say, last year 115 kids come down with whooping cough in Zanesville, Ohio schools.  The health dept told me (in writing) that all 115 had been vaccinated AND that of the few kids in the school who were unvaccinated, NONE came down with whooping cough.    Please get informed.  Your doctors are indoctrinated to keep regurgitating the same old lies despite a mountain of evidence. 

  • Argus

    Just so I understand – are you saying that even though these vaccines have greatly reduced death and suffering that they are no good because the diseases have not been eliminated 100%?

    Do you have a better plan than going back to the days when many children did not survive to adulthood because of preventable diseases?

  • AussieMum

    Since when can “man” prevent a disease?

    “Man” has no control over diseases/viruses and definitely cannot eradicate them!

    Without diseases/viruses would we need an “Immune System?”

  • John

     yes! your exactly right vaccines are just a big scheme created by the government to make it’s people feel safe. They in no way save millions of lives. Your belief that the incorrect the grammatical use of the word “eradicated” indicates that vaccines do not protect us well enough is inspiring. I propose that we all go back  to 16th century Europe and take it like a man. None of that tricky vaccine stuff that doctors work on for years to make as safe as possible. Screw governments and all there efforts to “save peoples lives”.

  • Bananas

     yep. its thanks to hard resolves like that that there hasn’t  been a single U.S. case of small pox in the last 10 years.If everyone just listened to you, the number of polio cases would be dropin’ like fall petals.    *insert sarcasm here*

  • brothersun

    Wow. Clearly you didn’t read the article. It shows that vaccines did NOT reduce death and suffering, but in fact increased both. And that official claims to the contrary are the result of statistical fraud, such as changing the diagnosis of smallpox in smallpox-vaccinated individuals to “chicken pox”. I know it may be hard to believe that every claim of vaccine benefit has been faked, but from my research, that seems to be the case. Same for claims of vaccine safety.

  • Argus

    I read the article – but to accept your conclusion I would have to believe what Christina wrote and that what the people she quotes is accurate and true.

    Time and again, Christina has posted articles asserting things that are unsupported by any verifiable information. She is simply not reliabl;e as a ‘reporter’.

    You want to dismiss ‘official’ data with a wave of your hand and replace it with things people have posted on whale.to. That’s not research – that is just being gullible.

  • brothersun

    I’m an honors graduate in Computer Science and as such, I’ve studied formal logic, including logical proofs that determine if a set of instructions will operate correctly under all conditions, and which conditions are prerequisite for that correct operation. This type of rigorous logical analysis can be applied to any field of science. The logical flaw that I see pro-vaxers making is the assumption that official figures and studies are not fraudulent. I can assure you that I did not come lightly to the conclusion that official studies are nearly always faked. The weight of evidence from many, many, independent, sources is there if you want to see it. Here one place to start: 14studies.com

  • Argus

    Nice appeal to authority, there, brothersun. Obviously we should bow down to your knowledge and ignore the conclusions of thousands and thousands of scientists that are actually trained in the fields they are commenting on.
    So it’s a logical flaw that everyone does not just accept your pronouncement that official studies are nearly always faked just because you say so.
    Oh, and your “14 studies” reference doesn’t support your contention. It makes several criticisms, but not that they were faked.

  • Charlie D

    Well, Google shows that this webpage is above the WHO website, which makes everything here two times more trustworthy than the findings of an internationally renowned health body. (FACT, because I said so in capital letters.)
    I always trust psychologists over medical professionals and scientific researchers when it comes to my health. What could go wrong?