Merck Consultants Try to Influence Your Doctor With Anti-Vaccine Propaganda

May 1st, 2012 | By | Category: Jennifer Hutchinson, Other News, Recent Articles, Top Stories

Doctors on Big Pharma's payroll deceptively give your pediatrician propaganda to 'debunk' your concerns about vaccines.

NIIW (National Infant Immunization Week) was “celebrated” April 21–28.

If you’re like me and have never heard of NIIW, it’s “an annual observance to promote the benefits of immunizations and to improve the health of children two years old or younger.” This year, for the first time since the group’s inception in 1994, NIIW was celebrated as part of WIW (World Immunization Week). WIW is an initiative of the WHO (World Health Organization). [1]

NIIW, according to the CDC, “provides an opportunity to …focus attention on our immunization achievements and celebrate the accomplishments made possible through successful collaboration.” If you click on “Promotional materials” on the Web site, you’ll find PR tools and links such as “Pitch and place childhood immunization PSAs all year long.” There are even health e-cards doctors can send to their patients. One has a to-do list on the front and includes, in order, “car seats, outlet covers, cabinet covers, baby gates, smoke detectors, vaccines.” Another starts with “I promise to” and is accompanied by the typical e-card music and a slew of promises for a pregnant mom, such as taking her pre-natal vitamins, eating a balanced diet, holding her baby all night when he’s upset, changing 5,000 diapers a day, and learning everything she can about caring for her baby. It ends with, “I promise to protect you against 14 vaccine-preventable diseases by your 2nd birthday.” [2] The site is filled with propaganda like this. Check it out—if you have the stomach for it.

“ANTI-VACCINATIONISTS”—A GUIDE FOR DOCTORS

After reading about NIIW, I decided to poke around for more information. I’m glad I did. I saw an article published on the Mayo Clinic Web site entitled “A Physician’s Guide for Anti-Vaccine Parents.” [3] The statement that “a Mayo Clinic vaccine expert and a pediatrician have offered suggestions for refuting three of the most common myths about child vaccine safety” raised my antenna. Their advice appears in the Human Immunology journal as “The Clinician’s Guide to the Anti-Vaccinationists’ Galaxy.” [4] I went to the source but was only able to read the Abstract, so I purchased the article. $31.50. Priceless. Here’s why.

One of the writers, Gregory Poland, MD (the “vaccine expert”), is chair of a Safety Evaluation Committee for vaccine trials conducted by … guess who? Merck. Yes, that’s right. He’s a consultant on vaccine development for Merck. The other writer, Robert Jacobson, MD (the pediatrician), is on a safety review committee for a study funded by … guess who? Merck. He’s also a member of a data monitoring committee for a Merck-funded investigational vaccine trial and an investigator for two studies (one funded by Novartis, the other by Pfizer). I like the way this information is listed at the end of the article, under “Disclosures.” There are probably a lot of doctors who won’t even read it. Maybe that’s the idea. If it was the first paragraph, could ANYone—with the possible exception of doctors who know the writers—read the article and not question their objectivity?

The threat to the vaccine program

Poland and Jacobson begin by hailing vaccines as “a modern miracle of science” and quickly move to the threat of “anti-vaccinationist [is that a real word?] propaganda” and explanations for why vaccine fears exist. To sum up, anti-vaccinationists are uninformed or misinformed, don’t understand probability or statistics, have conspiratorial thinking, blindly accept reports from the media and celebrities [Jenny McCarthy], or have taken on a “life cause.” The authors, who want clinicians to learn how to deal with the “concerns, fears, and misconceptions,” say that their article is aimed at people on “one end of the spectrum” (interesting choice of words)—those who are anti-vaccine and with whom discussions are “other-worldly and alien.” They go on to say that doctors are one of the top three sources of vaccine information for most parents, and “providing patients the right information at the right time will help them make informed decisions, and perhaps prevent undue influence by anti-vaccinationists.”

Next comes a history of the “anti-vaccine movement” and a definition of “anti-vaccinationist.” The definition is lengthy. My favorite part is those who “deny or unfairly disparage … even the motives of those who produce, recommend, and provide vaccines.” Who produces the vaccines? The manufacturers. (Like Merck.) Who recommends them? (The AAP, the CDC, etc.). Who provides them? (The doctors.) Question their motives? Why in the world would we do that? And why would we question the motives of Dr. Poland and Dr. Jacobson?

The myths about vaccine safety

In plain English, the myths are:

  1. Babies’ systems can’t handle so many shots.
  2. Vaccines can cause autoimmune diseases.
  3. Natural immunity from diseases is better and safer than vaccine-induced immunity.

Basically, the article refutes the concept of “antigenic overload” and the association between vaccines and autoimmune diseases and claims that vaccines are effective and safer than the infections they protect against. The authors then proceed to discuss the “harms done by the anti-vaccine movement,” including decreased vaccine rates (resulting in death), alternate schedules (resulting in under-vaccination and putting children at risk from vaccine-preventable diseases), and Dr. Wakefield’s study (resulting in parents choosing vaccine exemptions). “With relatively cheaper and more global means of communication through the Internet, anti-vaccinationists now have the opportunity to spread their message more extensively,” say Poland and Jacobson. The result? Lowered public confidence in vaccines worldwide and the “risk of pandemics and extensive outbreaks.” By the way, an entire page is devoted to Dr. Wakefield’s role in the “anti-vaccine movement.” (Thank you, Andy!) Then, a study is cited in which 8% of physicians said that more than 10% of parents in their practice refused all vaccines, and 20% reported that more than 10% requested an alternate schedule. Still a long way to go, but sounds like progress to me.

The solution to the problem

Finally, in “Conclusions and call to action,” the authors maintain that vaccines are safe for the “vast majority” of people,” and they are effective in decreasing “morbidity and mortality” due to infectious diseases. They state: “Misinformation and lack of scientific understanding must be countered for the public good, and the false information anti-vaccinationists spread countered.” I have to admit that I agree with the next—and last—two sentences: “The only rational way in which to proceed in devising individual and public health policy in regards to the use of vaccines requires high-quality studies and resulting data, interpreted carefully and based on the scientific method. In this regard, physicians have a duty and an important role to play in education, and the public health and vaccine debates.”

Keyword: studies. How about an independent, controlled study? How about a study that isn’t funded by Big Pharma or anyone else who makes money off vaccines? How about a study of vaccinated versus unvaccinated children? What a novel idea.

WHAT DO THE DOCTORS HAVE TO SAY?

Some have health concerns

In a 2005 survey of Swiss doctors, “a significant proportion” of non-pediatricians either declined or delayed certain vaccines because of concerns about safety. [5] Last August, in an Age of Autism article, “Protecting Their Own: The Unofficial Vaccination Policy of Doctors in the Know,” L. J. Goes quoted (anonymously, of course) a physician who admitted that he didn’t vaccinate his own kids and claims “they are all perfectly healthy.” He went on to say that although he and other doctors “question vaccines all the time, among ourselves … you never say it openly. … You just don’t question, they look at you like you’re crazy.” He said that his partners tell him, “You make them vaccinate on schedule or they are out.” [6] I know. This is one doctor. But I bet it’s a conversation that goes on among other doctors. Behind closed doors, of course.

Some are losing money

But there’s another reason why some doctors have abandoned or at least decreased the number of vaccines they give their patients. Some vaccines just aren’t profitable. According to an article entitled “Is Our Vaccine System at Risk for a Future Financial ‘Meltdown’?” that appeared in Pediatrics, inventory costs and inadequate insurance reimbursement are posing a problem for some pediatricians. “Vaccine-purchasing costs account for approximately 20% of all pediatric practice expenses.” The AAP recommends that the reimbursement be 17%–28% more than the vaccine cost. And this isn’t happening, especially in smaller practices, which, in some cases, are losing money on vaccines. Many family physicians questioned by the authors said they were no longer purchasing the more expensive vaccines. As a matter of fact, one in five were actually considering stopping all recommended vaccines for privately insured children. [7]

What is appalling to me is that there are pediatricians and other doctors out there who may stop vaccinating their patients—not because of safety concerns (except for the rare few who have the guts to speak the truth and stand up to the other doctors in their practice)—but because they aren’t profitable enough. They defend the vaccine program to parents and pressure them to vaccinate their kids, even throwing them out if they won’t. But when it comes down to money, they have second thoughts. I really shouldn’t be surprised. It’s always about money. Always has been. God forbid our children should come first.

Mike Adams, who reported these findings on www.naturalnews.com, makes an excellent point: “Wouldn’t it be hilarious if the vaccine industry failed due to its own greed? If more doctors refuse to offer vaccines and more parents refuse to chemically assault their own children with those same vaccines, the vaccine industry could sharply contract and experience a substantial loss of business.” [8]

I think I may have an idea for an article down the pike: “A Parent’s Guide to Pro-Vaccine Doctors.”

 

 

REFERENCES

1. www.cdc.gov/vaccines/events/niiw/overview.html

2. www.cdc.gov/vaccines/events/niiw/index.html

3. www.mayoclinic.org/news2012-rst/6841.html

4. www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0198885912000821

5. http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/116/5/e623.full

6. www.ageofautism.com/2011/08/protecting-their-own…

7. http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/122/6/1372.full.html

8. www.naturalnews.com/News_000569_vaccines_doctors_vaccination.html

 

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  • Argus

    Jennifer, I asked this question of Jeffrey once, but he never provided an answer:
    Please describe what the world would be like now if the use of vaccines had never been invented and vaccines had never been used.
    What diseases would be rampant – even in developed countries like the US – and how many children and adults would die or be permanently harmed by them each year?
    I await your reply.

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    I once asked if you had a vested interest in vaccines… and if you participated in some fashion with vaccines … and didn’t receive an answer.

  • DaftAida

    History of vaccines goes back to those nasty Jesuits infiltrating countries on behalf of the RC Empire, and India in particular, where the first examples of penetrating the skin to deliver medicinal (or toxic) agents was apparantly first observed. When the idea was first suggested to The Royal Society, they rejected it, ridiculed it as an agency for health. Resistance was broken down with the acceptance of Jenner’s work. And what are Jesuits? Agents of Darkness, blood oaths and treachery. Masters of the ‘poison pen’.

    The history of medical murder with intent goes back to the reign of Philip and Isabella of Spain, when that nation was taking its turn to rid themselves of the Jewish influence and the Jews, in their persecution, wrote to their cheif Rabbi with bitter complaints. His reply was to hold fast, retailiate by infiltrating the ‘goy’ medical, legal, education and all civic streams; all the better to kill them, poison them from within over time.

    So the two elements (Jesuits found Layola was a psychopathic Jew) of the acceptance of vaccines by The Royal Society (bunch of psychos in any event) and the intent of Jewish physicians to main, harm and kill goy children.

    Look at the main name players in this article. When I was researching Jenner, discovered the extent these types are prepared to go to in the name of ‘scientific progress’ – testing thier vaccinnes and theories out on their own children!

    In a world ruled by Psychopathic Pederasts, we can expect no better than the cynical destruction of humanity via their ever willing and ignorant medics.

    The reason we are being continually brain damaged, is in order that the Master Race appears to look superior! As psychopaths by definition, LACK something, are retarded in the ways we naturally flourish, they cannot ‘add that’ to their genetic mix, neither have they any desire to acquire empathic higher reasoning. In fact empathy, compassion and all human survival instrincts are being ‘outlawed’.

    We are all but a fraction of our native abilities due to this warfare but some of us still (it’s a miracle) retain sufficient cognizance to recognise the big scam of depopulation, eugenics and murder.
     

  • ponerology

    All valid points in this article; however, don’t think for one New York minute that pharma is standing by as they watch their profits potentially peak and/or decrease.  They knew the day would come when more people would get wise to the health repercussions of their forced vaccine schedules (which is mandated by their partners in crime in the visible and invisible governments) SO, I’m sure they are already dosing us with aerial nano-tech. They don’t like to lose because this agenda goes beyond just the money.  It is Malthusian at its core (satanic if you will).  No amount of pleading, asking nicely, or calling your so-called, elected representatives is going to fix or revserse this agenda. The sooner that is understood, the sooner a real solution may be found.

  • Giorgiotremante
  • http://www.vaclib.org/chapter/wyhome.htm Spearce

    It isn’t anti-vaccinationists who are causing the decline in vaccination rates. It’s the overloaded vaccine schedule and the resulting adverse reactions that are making parents question vaccination.

  • http://www.vaclib.org/chapter/wyhome.htm Spearce

    If doctors stop providing vaccines, people who want them will go to public health for them, which would cost the taxpayer more money.

  • Joybell74

    Please, do the article! A guide to pro-vaccine Dr’s would be a wonderful asset. Esp now that we have Dr’s that call CPS as soon as you question if the Vax are the best thing for your child. The mindset I’m seeing is “refuse 1 shot and you are endangering your child, we (the Dr and CPS) know what is best and can now take your child away.” I’ve seen it happen. My kids have health issues that make shots a danger, but the Dr’s don’t always want to hear that…they want to push a shot. I know my child better than any Dr. I know what they have been through, and how many years of study and efforts have gone into making my children the best they can be. I don’t need Dr’s pushing shots that cause setbacks to my kids’ development (esp. since some setbacks are permanent).

  • Dee N.

     If I were Jennifer, I wouldn’t bother to respond to such a disingenuous question, Argus. What would the world look like? HEALTHIER. PERIOD.  What diseases would be rampant? Probably none, except for brief spurts here and there, the way it has ALWAYS been. Want proof?  Look at the government-sourced data compiled by Dr. Ray Obomsawin (who, strangely, was attacked furiously for releasing this data) showing that in all cases, vaccines have either spiked the occurrence of the disease they were meant to eradicate, or lessened the rate of natural decline.
    Now the truth is starting to come out. FINALLY.
    But hey, Argus, if you’re such a fan, fill your boots and have all your shots.  There will be lots of vaccines available, I’m sure, once all parents wake up. Just don’t come whining when your immune system crashes.

  • Danny

        I know one person who said that he is not totally against vaccination. Vaccines as
    antibiotics have place to exist.

        But to be vaccinated does not mean to
    be protected .

        I am just for a REASONABLE VACCINATION. What does that mean?

    Reasonable
    vaccination – is first and foremost, a compliance with the postulates
    of Ed. Jenner – founder of vaccination (1796): use the vaccine only in
    case of danger, and only the contact persons (ie, have been in contact
    with infectious patients) do not vaccinate impaired or weakened children
    and children from the first weeks of life, treat the sting as to any
    other surgical procedure … ” and the doctor needs to know everything
    about the vaccine, and I insist on this.

        I am against to
    vaccination of all without exception – It is absolutely wrong! Such a
    system of vaccination is not the struggle against the agents which
    cause infectious diseases, it is a struggle against HUMAN NATURE!
    Vaccines, unlike antibiotics, do not act directly on bacteria or
    viruses, they RECONSTRUCT immune system which is given by the nature
    to each child INDIVIDUALLY – both in quantity and quality.

       Let me
    just say that immunodiagnostics before vaccination is important just
    because for children with some immunocompromised state (ie. primary or
    secondary immunodeficiencies) vaccination is absolutely contraindicated.
    Why?

       Because when a weakened immune system, plus the sensibility
    to, say, tuberculosis or polio, the live vaccine works as infektant,
    and the child (with a combination of only these three factors!) will be
    sick of the disease, against which he is vaccinated.

       After
    vaccination should be done the final stage – the final diagnosis, as,
    indeed, after providing any medical care. In this case must be answered:
    whether the defense HELD and to what extent. There are such labs which
    do such diagnosis almost in every country. Without a final diagnosis the
    entire system of vaccination is – pure quackery! One can not determine
    the functioning cells of the immune system by eyes.

       In order to
    “provoke” the immune response, antigen must have properties of alien,
    have a sufficient molecular weight to meet certain structural features.
    Vaccine is an alien, this must be always remembered before vaccination,
    as an alien, it inevitably violates the immunological balance inherent
    in the child individually both in quantity and quality. In addition, the
    presence of all the “virtues” of antigen – the vaccine may not always
    be the guarantor of the full desired immune response. Antigen is just a
    factor of selection and not a participant in the formation of a
    specific immunological response.

    Consequently, only the
    diagnostic evaluation, both before and after vaccination determines the
    degree of protection against infectious disease, as well as …
    competent physician. “Routine inspection”and “Routine vaccination of all
    without exception” discredits this “medical care “, creating the
    illusion of indispensability of vaccinations in the elimination of “all”
    or almost “all” infectious diseases, actively promoted by the WHO.

    The final result – the formation of defense – depends primarily on the
    body equips of the child, the initial state of his immune system, its
    immunogenetic characteristics – GENOTYPE .   Therefore to be vaccinated
    does not mean to be protected!

  • 441019

    I knew a woman five or six years ago who had a young daughter, about five years old. She told me that her daughter had never been seen by a doctor and that her daughter was never sick.

  • 441019

     Argus, I was born in 1944 and was the second oldest of nine children. At that time, children were not vaccinated, as far as I know. It was considered normal for every child to get measles, mumps, and chicken pox, and no one worried about it. We (children) would get the disease and be well in a short time and then have lifelong immunity. In the fifties, my family moved from the east to California. After one of my brothers was born, in 1958, my mother was told she could take him to a free well-baby clinic. She did that, and he was given DPT shots. One month after his third shot, he came down with whooping cough and was seriously ill. It was obviously from the shot, because he had not been exposed to anyone who had whooping cough. When my mother had her next child, my youngest brother, she didn’t allow him to have any vaccinations. He was the healthiest and most intelligent of all the children in the family. Now, at 50, he is still very strong and healthy and looks like 40.

  • Lowell Hubbs

    Go ahead and tell us yourself Argus; what diseases would be running rampant if not for vaccines? Please as well provide all the explanation and proof you have to back your claims? Preferably, and being you know that the medical side claims to all that science that they have; please also try and provide some of that for us as well to back your claims. I would as well like to see a list of studies that support the theory of vaccine derived herd immunity. Also please provide for us a list of vaccine safety studies to show that the benefits of vaccine outweigh the risks? Please list the amounts of aluminum in each vaccine, and as well provide all the aluminum adjuvant safety studies that you can find? Once you are done with that, please explain why we should not believe the recent findings that vaccines are causing mutations of the vaccine targeted pathogens, and as well causing similar pathogens to become stronger? Please as well explain why no one should be worried about DNA and other pathological contamination in vaccines? One recent example would be that found in Gardasil; specifically HPV DNA locked onto the aluminum adjuvant. Do you have any safety studies to back the FDA’s standing as to that there is no proof that such contamination will do any harm? When you find those, I will show you some studies that prove that the FDA has clearly lied to the public concerning that issue.

    Perhaps you would like to explain as well why the general over-all health of children vaccinated according to the current CDC is showing to be that they are the sickest children ever in history, and with more cancer and chronic conditions being treated with more prescriptions written than ever before? How do you explain as well that this is not being found in the unvaccinated children?

    I will await your reply!

  • Argus

    Wow, Jeffry, are you ever going to contribute to the discussion? All you seem to want to do is harp on whether or not I have anything to do with vaccines.
    Why don’t you do this? Just assume whatever is the “worst case” in your mind.
    There, now that we have that out of the way, let’s hear your description of a world that never had vaccines. How many people would be stricken down by polio each year? What would you say to parents of the children that didn’t survive a bought of measles? Would euthenasia have to be practiced on rabies infected victims just to prevent them suffering an excruciating but inevitable death?

  • Argus

    My own childhood was before there were vaccines for measles. mumps or chickenpox. All the children in our family had these diseases and no deaths or permanent injuries resulted. So in that I share your experience.
    But what does that prove? I also do not have any acquaintances or family members that have been seriously injured or killed in a car accident. Is that proof that car accidents don’t kill people?

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    It’s a simple question. Yes or no.

  • Davidgabi777

     Well said Lowell!  Vaccines made me so sick I needed years of homeopathy.  They made my puppy almost blind and gave him cancer.  My son got constant allergies, body pains and constipation.  After that I did my own research and finally realized it was the vaccines, one common link…

  • Davidgabi777

     Well said Lowell!  Vaccines made me so sick I needed years of homeopathy.  They made my puppy almost blind and gave him cancer.  My son got constant allergies, body pains and constipation.  After that I did my own research and finally realized it was the vaccines, one common link…

  • Argus

    So your answer to whether you have anything meaningful to say is no.

  • Argus

    So your answer to whether you have anything meaningful to say is no.

  • Danny

     Vaccination without  diagnosis (before and after) is a profanation in  the fight against infectious diseases!

  • Lowell Hubbs

    Have you ever heard of reverse logic, Argus??? It is proof that these are not all the deadly diseases you want to fear, fear, fear monger about! That, to push your false more benefits than risks to vaccines agenda. That is the delusional smoke screen of what you have to place within your mind, to live with the reality of what vaccines have actually done. And that should be obvious to you by now. Get to posting some real and human based physiological science on the safety of aluminum adjuvants? How about giving us some actual science to back the theory of herd immunity?  You people are proclaiming to be all about that science, and the scientific method, you know? Have you ever seen what an ischemic stroke from vaccine looks like? Do you know what hypoxia is? Why have not doctors realized this is happening? It does show on an MRI as white puffs, and indicates healhing and regrowth of blood vessels around the lack of blood and oxygen area of the brain. Do you know what microvascular territories are, in the brain? What do aluminum adjuvants have to do with this issue? Do you even have a clue? Let me know all about it if you think you do, or if you can find someone perhaps an expert in the field who can adddress that subject matter?

    http://youtu.be/yHBwyNYJUYM

  • Argus

    Really, Dee? Disingenuous? Then why did you bother to answer it?
    Of course your answer is complete fantasy. Smallpox, polio, measles didn’t just go away or lessen on their own.
    Obamsawin was not attacked for releasing data – he has been criticized for being dishonest in the way he presents it.  Now that’s disingenuous.

  • Lowell Hubbs

    So your answer to whether you have anything meaningful to say Argus, is no; because you can not answer one single question I put in front of you. How about answering that, your own question; as I asked you to, Argus? You want to talk the talk, you better be prepared to walk the walk.

  • Fyrestormcreations

     My unvaccinated 8 year old has never been to a medical doctor.  We’ve never needed one.

  • Fyrestormcreations

     My unvaccinated 8 year old has never been to a medical doctor.  We’ve never needed one.

  • Fyrestormcreations

     My unvaccinated 8 year old has never been to a medical doctor.  We’ve never needed one.

  • Lowell Hubbs

    Just because there may have been people with to much to lose in and as to the truths that Obomsawin put forth, does not mean that if he was accused of being dishonest, that in fact he actually was incorrect, nor dishonest. How many times do I have to ask you to prove your claims? Accusations alone simply do not cut it here, in case you have yet to figure that out.

    So are you telling us that the only unbiased, true, and accurate historical information and data on vaccines, comes only from the CDC and the WHO? Then are you telling us that these sources belwo are as well incorrect? Please explain in detail why we should believe only what the CDc presents for that historical data??

    The Polio Vaccine Part 1
    http://vaxtruth.org/2012/03/the-polio-vaccine-part-1-2/

    The Polio Vaccine Part 2
    http://vaxtruth.org/2012/03/the-polio-vaccine-part-2-2/

    The Polio Vaccine Part 3
    http://vaxtruth.org/2012/04/the-polio-vaccine-part-3-2/

    The polio vaccine: a critical assessment of its arcane history, efficacy, and long-term health-related consequenceshttp://www.thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf

    The Hidden Dangers In Polio Vaccine (Chapter 10 of Poisoned Needle plus addendums) by Eleanor McBean
    http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean5.html

    Smallpox Vaccine: Origins of Vaccine Madnesshttp://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2010/02/26/smallpox-vaccine-origins-of-vaccine-madness/

    The Case Against Vaccination.
    ADDRESS BY DR. HADWEN, J.P.,
    AT GODDARD’S ROOMS, GLOUCESTER.
    JAN 25, 1896.
    http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020119hadwin/020119hadwenrallytalk.html

    THE POISONED NEEDLESuppressed Facts About VaccinationBy Eleanor McBean, 1957 
    http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html

    GOVERNMENT REPORTS REVEAL MORE DEATHS FROM VACCINATION THAN FROM SMALLPOX

    http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html#GOVERNMENT REPORTS REVEAL MORE DEATHS FROM VACCINATION THAN FROM SMALLPOX

    CHART SHOWING DECREASE IN SMALLPOX DEATHS AFTER DECLINE OF VACCINATION

    http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html#CHART SHOWING DECREASE IN SMALLPOX DEATHS AFTER DECLINE OF VACCINATION

    STATEMENTS OF HEALTH OFFICIALS REGARDING VACCINATED SMALLPOX
    http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html#STATEMENTS OF HEALTH OFFICIALS REGARDING VACCINATED SMALLPOX

  • Albert B. Solomon

    It’s not a bought of measles, hon, it’s a bout ok? 

  • Argus

    Yes, thanks for clarifying.  Unfortunately this posting system doesn’t allow you to go back and make spelling corrections.
    How about it, Jennifer or Jeffry?  If there were no vaccines, would we not still have smallpox disease to deal with? How would rabies be treated? Would birth defects from pregnant mothers catching mumps still be occuring?

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    The question appears reasonable. Before I consider answering, though, my personal bias is my child is injured due to vaccination. So, by all means – share your bias and we’ll continue the discussion. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/atomicshark Robert Schecter

    Great stuff. I’ll post a link to it on my page.

  • MbbSC

    the reason your kids don’t get sick if they don’t have the vaccine is because roughly 85% of the people around you have been, sure there may be the occasional tragedy where a childs life is lost, but considering diseases that used to run rampant would lay waste to populations crippling or killing many thousands of people everyday have been all but abolished in the developed world thanks to vaccines one would think people would recognise the science instead of basing their opinions on emotional accusations by people with no qualifications.

    vaccines work 99.9% of the time, while the 0.1% margin of error is tragic the 99.9% success rate has saved millions of people from having lived filled with pain.

  • MbbSC

    the reason your kids don’t get sick if they don’t have the vaccine is because roughly 85% of the people around you have been, sure there may be the occasional tragedy where a childs life is lost, but considering diseases that used to run rampant would lay waste to populations crippling or killing many thousands of people everyday have been all but abolished in the developed world thanks to vaccines one would think people would recognise the science instead of basing their opinions on emotional accusations by people with no qualifications.

    vaccines work 99.9% of the time, while the 0.1% margin of error is tragic the 99.9% success rate has saved millions of people from having lived filled with pain.

  • Lowell Hubbs

    Rabies has already been addressed on this site, and the vaccine by some data found, shows that as well to be unneeded, and worthless. Do you have any comprehension of the terms, ”more harm than good”, Argus? How about if I ask you this; do you have any comprehension of the differences between biased and unbiased information, and data? Where is all your science Argus; didn’t I ask you to back up everything you state?

    And no, that question has already been answered here as well, there would be no small pox epidemic in todays world, if there had not been a vaccine developed. Are you telling me Argus, that the only vaccine to ever wipe of a disease was the small pox vaccine? Thats literally what you are stating. How could that be when world wide there were countries that had little to no use of that vaccine. The only thing that stopped the small pox outbreaks was when they finally stopped promoting and using the vaccine. Vaccines, more harm than good, on EVERY level! Start getting honest about the facts, Argus; or don’t bother reply posting here. 

  • Lowell Hubbs

    Lets see your science to back up every claim you just made??? Lets see your proof? No anecdotal evidence will be allowed! You can’t have it both ways. I will be expecting some proof of vaccine induced herd immunity science, as well!  

    Here is just a little vaccine harm science, for you! Enjoy!
    http://www.vacfacts.info

  • Fawn

    No offense Argus, but why as a parent do I need a doctor to tell me what I have seen with my own eyes? My child had seizures after vaccination. I was told it was normal. He stopped responding to his name after that. Again, we were told it was just a coincidence. Also, my friends had the flu vaccination and their kids all got the mild case of the flu. They had runny green snot coming out of their noses for weeks after vaccination. My kids didn’t and we opted out. Plus, I know people who gotten a vaccination and catch the disease they were vaccinated for. I think it is time to stop listening to pseudo-science and start listening to the parents and people.

  • Fawn

    No offense Argus, but why as a parent do I need a doctor to tell me what I have seen with my own eyes? My child had seizures after vaccination. I was told it was normal. He stopped responding to his name after that. Again, we were told it was just a coincidence. Also, my friends had the flu vaccination and their kids all got the mild case of the flu. They had runny green snot coming out of their noses for weeks after vaccination. My kids didn’t and we opted out. Plus, I know people who gotten a vaccination and catch the disease they were vaccinated for. I think it is time to stop listening to pseudo-science and start listening to the parents and people.

  • Fawn

    No offense Argus, but why as a parent do I need a doctor to tell me what I have seen with my own eyes? My child had seizures after vaccination. I was told it was normal. He stopped responding to his name after that. Again, we were told it was just a coincidence. Also, my friends had the flu vaccination and their kids all got the mild case of the flu. They had runny green snot coming out of their noses for weeks after vaccination. My kids didn’t and we opted out. Plus, I know people who gotten a vaccination and catch the disease they were vaccinated for. I think it is time to stop listening to pseudo-science and start listening to the parents and people.

  • K

    How about you raise the several millions of dollars required to fund the independent scientific double blind trial study of vaccine toxicology as stated in paragraph 8 of your article. How about those parents who choose to not immunize at all, be kept together in communities away from vaccinated populations and left to contract the multitude of virus’ responsible for some of the most hideous diseases humanity has ever seen. How about we take all those un vaccinated babies and put them together and let the small pox virus out on them. How is that for an experiment? Will the anti- vaccination parents pay all the medical costs of their dying children? Who will compensate the decision to NOT immunize when the child gets polio or diphtheria? Will you as an organisation, have the millions of dollars sought in compensation for promoting the decision to not immunize, when those children die of the diseases they get exposed to in the experiment? Unfortunately, humans believe what they are told from people who appear to have authority. Humans have to start taking full responsibility for their choices and start wearing the consequences of those choices. I am not pro or anti anything, other than choice. Propaganda perpetuated by any group for their own agenda is pretty damn annoying when the consequences are as dire as pandemic diseases. From what i can read of your website, your are just as prepared to promote anti- vaccination propaganda as the your ‘opponents’ do their own.

  • Daniegirl

     http://www.healthsentinel.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2654%3Aunited-states-disease-death-rates&catid=55%3Aunited-states-deaths-from-diseases&Itemid=55

  • http://www.facebook.com/diogenes.diaz.524 Diogenes Diaz

    vaccines are a scam.

  • GiorgioTremante

    This is why a large handsome return to the “sacrificial medicine”, congratulations. We can also go back to the times of the Tarpeian Rock, but do it with your children not with ours.