Government Funded Phone App Tracks “Vaccine Refusers”


This is a snapshot of the Vaccine Refused phone application.

A new phone application called Vaccine Refused developed by the University of Iowa tracks – just as the name implies – vaccine refusals. [1]

The application is intended to be used by health professionals to report the location of the refusal, the vaccine refused, and patient demographics. The output of the data, which is supposedly anonymous and stored securely at the University of Iowa, provides a heat map of the refusals.

I’m going to show you how the government will likely use this information – and it isn’t pretty. Let me tell you more.

Application is Government Funded

To understand the importance of this particular application, we need to know how it is being funded and who is leading the research. This will give us a clue as to how the data will likely be used.

The research for the phone application is led by Dr. Philip Polgreen, Director of Infectious Disease Society of America’s Emerging Infections Network. [2]

Why is this significant?

According to the IDSA’s website, “In 1995, the CDC [Centers for Disease Control] granted a Cooperative Agreement Program award to the Infectious Diseases Society of America (IDSA) to develop a provider-based emerging infections sentinel network: the Emerging Infections Network (IDSA EIN).” [3]

The project’s main University of Iowa page clearly states the research is funded by the National Institutes of Health and by a contract from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. [4]

So now we know the lead researcher for the phone application has direct ties to the Centers for Disease Control as well receiving funds for the research.

Here’s the important point…

Vaccine Refused Application is Technology Black Boxing

This is your typical “black boxing” effort in developing tracking technology. By this I mean very simply, two separate technologies are being developed and will be combined to form a system at a later date.

An analogy would be the designing of a car. The engine, steering, and breaking system are all developed separately but then combined in the manufacturing process to make a car.

Much in the same way, an application tracking vaccine refusals may seem harmless on the surface. However, the Centers for Disease Control are collecting other data.

In a recent article, I wrote about how the CDC collects information on who vaccinates their children and who does not. They also know how many children have opted out of being vaccinated. [5]

If you didn’t know, the Centers for Disease Control has been quietly rolling out a nationwide program called the Immunization Information Systems (IIS), registering your vaccine information (and if you refuse or not) into databases. [6]

But what would happen if data from the phone application was combined or analyzed with vaccine registry information?

The Correlation of Data

Here’s what you need to know.

The government (along with corporations) collects, correlates, and tracks data about you. I highly recommend a very informational article written by Information Security expert Bruce Schneier.

He writes, “Governments are happy to use the data corporations collect – occasionally demanding that they collect more and save it longer – to spy on us. And corporations are happy to buy data from governments. Together the powerful spy on the powerless, and they’re not going to give up their positions of power, despite what the people want.” [7]

The CDC’s Immunization Information System already tracks your vaccine refusals. If you recall from the last article, a small amount of the data collected included: the patient’s name, birth date, mother’s name, home address and phone number, and vaccine provider.

How easy would it be to correlate any “refuser” data and make a map out of it with home addresses? It seems the Vaccine Refused application can accomplish this task quiet easily.

Researchers at the University of Iowa say the data collected by the application is secure and anonymous. You and I should know better; this could be changed with the stroke of the pen.

Heck, the CDC is paying for the research. Are you sure there isn’t a hidden agenda?


George Washington can be quoted as saying, “Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

What happens if we take the intention of the Vaccine Refused phone application and Immunization Information System to its conclusion? Will these technologies be used to track you down and forcibly vaccinate you and your children?

It sure seems that way to me.


[contentbox headline=”References” type=”normal”]
  1. http://compepi.cs.uiowa.edu/vacref/
  2. http://www.int-med.uiowa.edu/divisions/id/Directory/PhilipPolgreen.html
  3. http://ein.idsociety.org/
  4. http://compepi.cs.uiowa.edu/index.php/Main/Home
  5. http://vactruth.com/2013/04/26/police-state-registry-system/
  6. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/programs/iis/about.html
  7. http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/16/opinion/schneier-internet-surveillance/index.html
Jeffry John Aufderheide

Jeffry John Aufderheide is the father of a child injured as a result of vaccination. As editor of VacTruth.com, he promotes well-educated health professionals, informed consent, and full disclosure and accountability of adverse reactions to vaccines.

  • Silver

    Why not an app that tracks vaccine injuries? Fat chance they release something like that…

  • I can see it now. There are 2 children in your neighborhood that have not had all their measles shots and may be carrying the deadly measles virus putting the entire community at risk. Protect yourself and come to the health dept where we have set up a measles vaccine clinic for your booster because it is likely to have worn off.. (and other such doublespeak)

  • Another good reason to avoid doctors… if you dont visit them weekly *(like 90% of parents do) then you wont refuse vaccines & cant be tracked.

  • John

    I think there may be important info in this article, however the author is all over the map. Little sound bites seem to infer some things but really, someone needs to write this where it can be concise and understood so the information can be shared.

  • Chrissie McNeil

    They can’t track you THAT way BUT when/if you put your child in public school…they will have the information that you choose not to vaccinate. It will be on file.

  • Viperedpete

    Thankx for all your team does at VacTruth leamington on,canada

  • betsyanne

    A lot of what we look at today as progression in technology is really a form of entrapment because the gubment will be, and really already has been, getting as much information about all of us as possible through the techie devices we are growing addicted to using. It will soon be “legal” for them to do it, not that they haven’t already BEEN doing it. That’s why I stay away from things like facebook, twitter, apps and all the other crap they are trying to get us numbed up with. It’s like propagandist novocaine.

  • Barb

    Some things you can change, some not (unless enough like minded folks with $$ organize), similar non-electronic monitoring has been going on since vaccines first appeared, nothing any person or organization says or does can coerce the educated into accepting the disease creating blood poisoning called vaccines. Social media is the gateway for info trolling, one folks seem comfortable giving their personal info.

  • kelley

    any ideas in how we can protect ourselves from the lists?

  • Yep, the last couple years I have received a weird consent form through the school about sharing my child’s medical and vaccine data… it struck me as odd. I never sign it.

  • Argus

    Wow, Jeffry, you must be running out of topics. Nothing lately except paranoid posts about how the ‘gubmint’ is out to get you.

    Why don’t you write about a topic that is currently in the news?
    Like this one:


  • Argus

    Tell us all why Andrew Wakefield is an individual who should not be reviled. Not only for what he did back in 1998, but for the real effects it is having on people’s lives today.

  • Cherry Misra

    To Argus, Could you tell us why we should revile Dr. Wakefield, now that his results have been duplicated in at least three labs in various parts of the world, and most American pediatricians are quietly accepting autistic enterocolitis ? Or are you mad at him for telling the world about the UK using a mumps vaccine that was known to have killed children in Canada. Nice- They changed the name of the vaccine – how clever.
    And Argus, just for a little light relief – try this new game- Cover your ears in such a way that you cannot hear anything- for just a week. Now write back to us and tell us what a mother should do for her second child, after her first child became deaf from a DPT vaccine. . All the best to you ! Please keep commenting. !

  • Debi Westerman Dixon

    My thoughts exactly.

  • Debi Westerman Dixon

    SO home school.

  • Debi Westerman Dixon

    I have had 8 kids … 70-80 years of parenting experience over 25 years: MAYBE12 sick visits and 5 injury visits in that time. And very few regular check ups. They probably know just where I am anyway. And my kids are ridiculously healthy. Only vaccine (maybe) preventable illness they have had was whooping cough. It was inconveinient (still on the tail end of the five at home with that), but we home school, so we didn’t have to inconvenience the system.

  • Jennifer Hutchinson

    Thanks, Jeffry, for sharing this vital information. And, Silver, I agree with you. Tracking vaccine injuries is a great idea!

  • Argus

    Oh, Cherry – full of lies.

    “his results have been duplicated in at least three labs” – not true in the least. Remember, to duplicate his results, the experiments would have to test the same hypothesis that he did.

    “most American pediatricians are quietly accepting autistic enterocolitis.” – perhaps, but Wakefield said this was CAUSED by MMR vaccine. Accepting that these are common co-morbid conditions doesn’t prove that one caused the other. And it definitely doesn’t prove that a third factor (MMR) is involved.

    “telling the world about the UK using a mumps vaccine . . .” – He never said anything about this until long after his fraudulent paper had been published. And what does this have to do with his “research” about MEASLES vaccine?

  • Argus

    And as for the mother of the two children.
    My advice is for her to discuss the situation with the pediatrician that knows the medical history of both children and make an informed decision based on medical and scientific evidence.
    The last place I would ever go looking for medical advice for myself or my family is from a bunch of strangers on the internet.


    More sinister still, I am aware that our governments have been ‘experimenting’ on the population for many decades with cold and flu viruses. A teacher at a prestigious school read out an article to us from a national broadsheet newspaper to that effect whilst I was still in high school. Now I see a dozen planes or drones within an hour, leaving white lines which make the skies lighter and hazed. Those who are not vaccinated can be targeted with virus from the air with drones. Would they do such a thing? They bombed up Libya and put terrorists into power who really know about sadistic torture and double think and called a great African hero a despot when he had given the wealth and power of Libya to her people. The scum of the earth which has risen to the top (bankers big corp and govt) are psychopathic menaces to the human race, and the entire planet, the devils own. Not all of them realize quite what they are doing, they have strange ideas that they are saving the planet from overpopulation, that they saved the Libyan people by putting terrorists into power and that an hero is a dictator but the effects of what they support are the same.


    Essential idea, we must have a database of the people ie not of big corps. If we all contribute a very small amount, it would have vast funds for global coverage. Computer geniuses get to work..


    keep changing your mobile your number and keep the phone switched off.


    Some people laugh because people believe in God. How can you have faith in something you cannot see. I laugh because I see the evidence of God, in EXISTENCE, in the life of our planet, in the existence of everything including untouchable things like truth, love & peace. Why do so many people have so much blind faith in experts, doctors, big pharma, when we have so much evidence to the contrary? Why do so many choose to live in the world of mass fabrications? Man made lies, even when they are believed by many are still not real.


    Anonymous hackers protectors of the people army. The world needs a shadow government ready to take the place of our government in the shadows, which we are aware of.

  • Marguerite Masterson

    George Orwell died before his time. I always wondered part of the corporate military/medical industrial complex would start this nonsense. Now I know. Fascist medicine never died. It just moved to the United States.

    “Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.”
    C. S. Lewis

    Thank you so much Jeffry (and Christina) for all you do.

  • DR Andrew Wakefield, wanted a open scientific debate with the 2 doctors involved on the COVER UP on the MMR snake poison, and because the corrupt pharmaceuticals falsified the trials on MMR.. FACT, they where that scared the truth would finally be know that they had DR Andrew wakefield BANNED FROM ALL MEDIA coverage so he put the challenge on YOU TUBE , THIS SAY,S IT ALL , just put in Dr Andrew wakefield …….after watching it you will see who is LYING. these are FACTS .FACTS do you need it in bigger letters argus

  • dan

    tracking vaccine injuries yes! :) Counterwill as written in Gabor Mate’s book.. Whatever action has a equal or greater reaction no? Something like that, anyhow we knew this was only a matter of time so keep marching to the tune of your conscious :) They wanna fly drones, we buy them at cosco in mass and look through there windows!!! :)

  • Protonius

    Pamela, I disagree.

    Under Obamacare, as I understand it, all U.S. “health-insurers” — and the U.S. medical establishment in general — will be REQUIRED to meet whatever “minimum” of standards that the Government chooses to establish for all such “health-insurance” coverage and practices.

    IMO, this Government — i.e., not the as-written Constitutional system “per se” but the persons (and their corporate etcetera influencers) at the higher levels of power within this system — apparently either BELIEVES that vaccines are wonderful or, for other reasons, nonetheless CHOOSES to promote the VIEW that vaccines are wonderful — and that for anyone (in the general population, of course!) to NOT be vaccinated will (a) be a burden on the healthcare-system and (b) subject “the rest of us” to being susceptible to potentially devastating, life-threatening, diseases.

    Already we have learned, via exposes in the media (which was so lax in the early Obamacare days), how Obamacare, in a number of ways, actually establishes severe penalties against doctors and other medical practitioners if those doctors/practitioners choose to use their OWN best medical judgements, in certain cases, rather than follow Obamacare-established treatment-protocols that those doctors/practitioners feel would be WRONG for their patients.

    We also have seen, via this recent (and continuing) political battle over “guns”, that this White House, this person acting as President, has put forth specific policies and guidelines that push (and perhaps even actually require) doctors to determine (a) if any of their patients suffers from “depression”, and (b) if any of their patients has a gun or knows someone who perhaps has a gun; — and pushes (or requires) those doctors/practitioners — under severe penalty for NOT acquiescing to this demand — to REPORT THOSE PERSONS AND (ALLEGED) FACTS TO THE GOVERNMENT (or to specified Government agencies).

    We also already know that under Obamacare, any American who chooses to NOT sign-up for a “health-insurance” plan — let alone a “health-insurance” plan that meets Government-established standards — will be “PENALIZED”, or “TAXED” (There’s a difference?) by the IRS, thanks to Obamacare.

    So, you sign-up. How soon before your “choice” as to whether you wish to be vaccinated or to refuse to be vaccinated, under Obamacare, will subject you to a similar eventuality — or worse?

    Even as I write this comment, here come the increasingly publicized “warnings”, in the news of late, of an allegedly virulent, human-killing, “new” virus in China, plus a “surprising reappearance” of a reportedly “new” and “potentially deadly animal-to-human strain” of “bird flu”. And, in terms of these and similar potential biologic onslaughts, who knows what NEXT is around the corner — or in the sifting-down, into the air which we breathe, from any chemtrails above)?

    And now, here comes this news of this “vaccine-refuser tracking-app” — and, as claimed by the above VacTruth article, the CDC’s alleged involvement with its development.

    How much of a “leap of logic” is it to therefore wonder — perhaps with good reason — how soon Obamacare will require — and threaten severe penalties to any patient, doctor, hospital, who refuses to go along — that everyone in America (or any given region) MUST be vaccinated? And vaccinated for however many times, and for “protection” against however many alleged health-threats, as some decisionmakers in Government (at whatever the level) choose?

    And what do you suppose might be the repercussions — ESPECIALLY if against the backdrop of the onslaught of yet another alleged biologic-threat — not only to doctors & other medical practitioners who refuse to vaccinate, but also to INDIVIDUALS who choose to refuse to be vaccinated?

    I would HOPE that none of these fears come to fruition. But, as I see it, the problem is that the GROUNDWORK for them to come to fruition seems to be well into the process of being set into position.

    Wouldn’t be nice, therefore, if- for example, someone would develop an app that we all could use to REVERSE this trend and to PROTECT ourselves from (in my view) those oppressive potentialities?

  • ThinkingMom

    My kids caught the chicken pox from a child who had just been vaccinated. Most kids who are not vaccinated catch the disease from those who are vaccinated.

  • Argus, read this, actually read it and get back to me on and as to your comments!

    Statement from Andrew Wakefield

  • Are you more interested in the truth, Argus; or are you more interested in denial of all? I think it is pretty obvious what the answer is. Who do you work for?

    Dr Andrew Wakefield – MMR Vaccine – Truth and Reality

  • Ok Argus, even the AAP admits that enterocolitis is often found in ASD. What, if not the MMR, are you suggesting the causation is? And none of the thousands of parents who seen their healthy child regress after the MMR vaccine, that means nothing to you; and all is a coincidence, right? How do you explain that this condition is rarely if ever found in the un-vaccinated, as a fact? How do you explain the success of biomedical treatment? You deny that success as well, right? It never happened? Or perhaps all the ASD diagnosis were wrong? Get to the honest specifics of your interpretations here? We all want to know of your expert opinion? And your qualifications are what?

    Biomedical Treatment in Autism (ASD)

    The Great Measles Misunderstanding

  • That article is all slanderous lies, Argus! You simply bought all of the false propaganda, and nothing would be enough; you must deny it.

    Brian Deer and The GMC, Selective Hearing. BMJ Journalist

  • If you have all the correct information Argus, I will ask you this; if you were a Pediatrician or a doctor giving vaccines, could you in any honesty fill out this below document???

    Informed Consent / Vaccine Risks Disclosure Formhttp://www.vacfacts.info/informed-consent–vaccine-risks-disclosure-form.html

    National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program – Payout Data

    $2,550,640,666.73 is the current total figure paid out of this federal court fund, for attorney fees included, (paid out, win or lose the case).

    Since the first Vaccine Injury Compensation claims were made in 1989, 3,110 compensation payments have been made, $2,389,329,250.45 disbursed to petitioners and $94,604,103.72 paid to cover attorney’s fees and other legal costs.

    To date, 9,785 claims have been dismissed. Of those, 3,982 claimants were paid $52,680,057.05 to cover attorney’s fees and other legal costs.


  • This app is unconstututional… and completely unacceptable!

  • johnfryer

    From the data given it seems that well over ten thousand dollars is spent on thousands of children who got damaged or ill from a cause not claimed to be vaccine related but some other mythical cause and this money then goes to lawyers who LOSE their clients case of vaccine harm.

    In a utopian society wouldnt it be better for this money to go towards costs of recovering the child rather than help some millionaire lawyer get a few crumbs from this to him poorly paid work?

    Surely the battle is over science and lawyers must have no part of this pot of money designated for those vaccine damaged. The charter actually mentions money to go to the damaged child even when there is cause to think the vaccine may not be the guilty party.

    To give all this millions to lawyers in robust health is an abomination of the reason for this fund and for lawyers to claim high fees is obscene.

    Very often there are combination events and anyone who gives tylenol or acetaminophen must realise that this is not a wise move and may aggravate vaccine harm. This drug was stopped from all presciption use years ago in USA!

  • Excellent bit of investigative journalism! The app, -on its own is scary enough, but when you realize who is behind implementing the technology and how far the ties go, a much darker, bigger picture starts to come into focus.

  • Jesus

    That same heat map represents people who have ‘woken up’. They will probably base their next false flag attacks in the centers of the hot spots (awakened unvaccinated). Our only hope is to drive the app to show 300 million refusals.

  • watcher

    yes, I’ve wondered the same thing, I feel those who have huge egos are “veiled” by their own image. The creator taps you gently on the shoulder if you are genuine. The crucifixion of Christ is happening now.

  • Iusaaset

    medical and scientific evidence, ROFLMAO! Golden heifer protector, follow the money.

    strangers make good bedfellows imo. Judas sat the closest to Jesus and look what happened to him!
    I’d prefer the company of strangers over “Medical practitioners” who have become mere pharma salesmen with a modicum of diagnostic skills akin to a parrot training exercise. “Polly want some soma screech!

    The last place I’d get advice from is the very source of the problem.
    your days are up big pharma, with your name changing propaganda.

    Polio is now renamed acute flaccid paralysis, cute,


  • Iusaaset

    right on Lowell

    The fact that according to the Medical-puppet-soma-salesmen-funded by big pharma lock stock and barrel, if no “symptoms” appear before 24 hours as an indicator of vaccine causative illness is just laughable.
    it’s takes longer to have a crap after a good meal for f*#ks sake!?
    If your kid dies of seizures at the 25hr mark, there is no vaccine causation?? In fact, the last I heard there is nothing to sign if you child *does show symptoms of any kind?

    How’s that for arrogance. Just omit the paperwork, therefore no statistics!!

    Talk about pseudo “medical” “”science””.

    geez if cops applied this to murder cases, every criminal would be free.

    oh heck… they are… and they’re running the planet?

    historical revisionism should be studied @ every corner folks. It’s called *power/fascism.

    We’ve seen the effects of smoking causing cancer can take decades (proven).

    Bad diet causes heart attacks, longer than 24hrs folks.
    This myopic short term *disclaimer is bordering on absudity-ad-finitum-ad-nauseum-ad-golden bullsh#t-um

    Socially sanctioned vaccine murders are right in our face and the authorities have the hide to justify their own weapon of mass destruction
    Medical plebs are so scared of actually challenging anything in their face for fear of losing Pavlovian rewards to get their private schooled (brainwashed) family off to Phuket for pharma funded holidays.


    A final quote from Josef Mengele

    “The more we do to you, the less you seem to believe we are doing it”

    The Jewish train rides to holiday camp couldn’t be seen back in the 30’s, how history repeats.

  • AussieMum

    lusaaset- Love your line about the “crap!”

    Imagine if the “24 hour” indicator were extended!

    Many symptoms can occur weeks after the vaccine shot, it is dependent on the individual.

    Many children can be slow to react and because of this, they shouldn’t be penalised or refused compensation for not reacting to an “unrealistic time span!”


    Truth is certainly being crucified and Jesus said I am the truth..

  • I believe you tell your mother’s friends that you are in “Public Relations.” And that you, “do a lot of stuff on the internet… not very exciting…” You are in your early 30’s. You drive a BMW. You’ve sold Truth for a couple of Shillings and you think it’s a pretty good deal. But, what do you see when you look into your own eyes in the mirror? In my opinion, you paid too much for that BMW.

  • Can, I just live in peace without these criminals knocking on my door ?
    By James R…
    High Desert Politics

  • Nancy

    Jeffry, is there any way to hear your discussion with Mike Adams about the vaccine tracker app? Thanks.

  • Mor Sagmon

    The correlation between the two apps is not clear. It seams both systems record the same information (IIS by collecting formal immunization transactions and this new app by collecting public reports on “refusals”). How would cross-mapping info between the two apps provide any added value?

  • Jim Bob

    Okay Lowell…Hypothetically speaking: MMR causes enterocolitis which causes autism. Why MMR? Have you tested any of the other known causes of enterocolitis? Or have you already made up your mind that vaccines cause autism before going that extra step. (Hint: You’re doing it wrong).
    Or had you done a little more research, you might find that science is leaning towards autism causing the gut problems. Not the other way around.

    And why is Quackfield’s study of 12 children some how considered evidence? Don’t all you anti-vax quacks continue to bleat on about how only a vax vs unvaxxed study is the only thing that can be considered good science? Ergo, Quackfield’s study is considered a flaming pile of dog poop by your own standards but no one seems to admit that.

    I look forward to someone responding why Quackfield’s study somehow holds more weight when there are many other studies out there showing that the decrease in MMR vaccination rates in other countries did not lead to a decrease in autism diagnoses. See Danish and Japanese studies on such topics.

  • Jim Bob

    “What, if not the MMR, are you suggesting the causation is?”

    Perhaps you might start here: http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/29388

    If autism is in fact linked to placental abnormalities, it would exonerate vaccines. Further, you would have to apologize to all the scientists out there you have insulted who have being saying for quite a while that the determination of autism takes place well before any vaccines are given.

    But, I take it you were most likely stocking up your bomb shelter and creating your tinfoil hat to prepare for the next “false flag” attack to do any current research. Instead you continue to rely on discredited and retracted articles from many moons ago to “educate” yourself.

  • Jim Bob

    FACT: Alf has no proof of anything he just wrote.

  • Josey_Montana

    What added value? A list for your friendly neighborhood lock-down forces to come visit you with a needle and an offer you can’t refuse.

  • Josey_Montana

    Jim Bob, that was really unnecessary.

    If vaccines are so wonderful, why the enormous, unrelenting pressure to accept them?

    You needn’t coerce anyone to grab a dollar on the sidewalk; or to go outside on a sunny day.

    If vaccines were self-evidently beneficial, the public would clamour for them spontaneously – like they do Viagra!

    The fact there is no such clamour speaks to the public valuation of them as mediocre at best.

    But the jackbooted thug attitude of “healers” and their government enablers is frightening. Imagine it with a Nazi accent and it would be considered a horror film.

    Instead, people like you specialize as shock-troops for a regime lacking independent value or acclaim.

    Revenge of the nerds gone mad? Perhaps.

  • Josey_Montana

    Why are you hell bent on controlling other sentient beings?

    There’s a little goose-stepping fuhrer in you people that alarms even the most jaded of us.

  • Forget the studies…go to the reporting system for vaccine injuries online. Normal people, reporting thousands of illnesses and deaths each year immediately after shots. Proof enough for me

  • Jim Bob


    Actually, the majority of people do accept that vaccines work hence relatively high vaccination rates (over 80% sometimes 90% for most vaccines in my area). Occasionally, myths are reported and sensationalized by media which causes vaccination rates to fall below levels where herd immunity diminishes which causes the return of vaccine-preventable diseases.

    These myths come from a fringe group of extremists like yourself and the writers of this page and others like it. These are people who value conspiracy theories over scientific journals.
    P.S. I don’t think I’ve ever been under enormous pressure to vaccinate from anyone except my own conscience. But then again, I’m not paranoid or delusional that the government is out to get me.

  • Jim Bob

    Seriously Patricia?

    Forget the studies?

    You know that the reporting system (I’m assuming you mean VAERS) has no checks to verify what is actually reported?

    If that is your burden of proof, I can understand why you feel the way you do. Especially when you dismiss accredited scientists in published journals for “normal” people.

  • Jim Bob

    I raise a legitimate question, you attack my motives.
    Weak, Josey. Weak.

  • Anon

    For all the nay sayers of vaccine injury. Let me help you out a little. Why don’t you Youtube the November 2012 C-SPAN congressional hearing on vaccines. Ah hell, here ya go. It’s long, though, about 4 hrs., so it will require some attention span: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zGqUfvFDI4

  • Anon of Truth

    I approve. You want to not get vaccinated? Fine, your choice. But once your stupid, sick self starts to spread your avoidable sickness (avoidable had you been vaccinated), we need to know who started the spreading so we can trace it back. You want to endanger the population? You suffer the consequences.

  • ThinkingPerson

    Bullshit. Show me the numbers, the figures, and the proof. Anecdotes and stories do not count as evidence, my dense friend. Ignorance helps you misinterpret what you see, after all.

  • Doctor Love

    You’re so full of crazy, we should siphon some of it from you and create “Crazy Juice”. Then, we’ll claim that it can cure the cold and cancer, that it is all-natural and non-pharma funded, and sell it right back to the crazies (people like you). We would make MILLIONS off of idiots like you.

  • A Dose of Truth

    Proof enough for you because you don’t understand the studies enough. Your ignorance and pride are your downfall: they keep you from educating yourself, because you refuse to do the work of finding out that what you thought you knew is false (the conspiracy bullshit), and researching actual information. it is easier to remain in ignorance and believe things that have no proof to them (anecdotes, for example, or websites with obvious biases to them), rather than do the work and the research. Oh well, you’ll just breed kids, not vaccinate them, and then they’ll get sick because of your negligence If you decide to remain in ignorance and stupidity, be sure to keep your illness-spawn away from me.

  • TheRealAmerican

    Your ignorance of basic biology and human anatomy is laughable. People like you can vote: that’s really depressing.

  • Doctor Evil

    I agree! All of you conspiracy theorists should avoid doctors, let you and all your gross, illness-riddled spawn die off, and let humanity evolve into a more intelligent mass! Don’t ever go tot he doctor, an ER room, or any medical facility ever again, Pamela. Let’s start the removal of the brainless humans with you.

  • JohnforPrez

    This is such a great place to just meet and talk to such knowledgable people. I for one propose that we should all live together in one place (I heard that Bikini Atoll is still free). Lord knows those blinded millions don’t want our ‘public health risk’, and we can makes laws that make sense; that are AMERICAN!

    We will eat well, and use our homeopathic water for vaccination because its the only thing PROVEN to work (see renowned Homeopath Dr. Jack Gagliardi’s website for the TRUTH – http://www.homeopathyheals.com/Vaccination.html).

    Polio? Nobody gets polio these days. Iron lungs were an elaborate invention of the government to scare us into submission.

    Meningitis? Nothing Vitamin A can’t handle – My son once had meningitis; I didn’t take him to the ‘medical professionals’ because all they would do his pump him full of antibiotics from big pharma. We gave him ginseng and St. Johns wart and his brain is just fine thank you very much – http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Streptococcus_pneumoniae_meningitis,_gross_pathology_33_lores.jpg

    How about it! Lets live together or die trying (of measles encephalitis, mumps sterility, congenital rubella syndrome,meningococcemia, haemophilus influenzae meningitis, streptococcus pneumonia/bacteremia/meningitis, varicella zoster associated necrotizing fasciitis, cervical cancer and of course influenzae).

    Whos with me!

  • JohnforPrez

    you would love some of this articles points this GH guy made to these fools in the commentary. Apparently he’s a real doctor and just tears these guys garbage to pieces…


  • That literal junk science study of the placenta has more holes in it as to any explanation of ASD, than does swiss cheese, Jim Bob. What are you telling me that the 1 in 10,000 rate of ASD has gone to know 1 in 50 sue to defective placenta’s? Where and from what do you people come from? Below is just a few beginning excepts from your said study. […]

    [The researchers cautioned that the study found an association between trophoblast inclusions and autism risk, rather than a direct correlation with autism itself. The study is published online today in Biological Psychiatry.

    “There’s no evidence that the trophoblast inclusions themselves have any direct impact on neurodevelopment,” said Cheryl Walker, assistant professor in the UC Davis Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology and lead author for the study. “Rather, they are likely a symptom of altered physiology or a genetic predisposition, particularly given their association with other genetic abnormalities, and are almost certain to be triggered by environmental exposures.]

    You have got to be kidding. LOL! Looks like you are the person who must have been wearing some sort of tin foil hat, to protect you from any factual truth and common sense from entering your thoughts whatsoever?

  • What the CDC has to go on are only two of their own funded epidemiological studies, one done on the MMR vaccine and one done on Thimerosal. These two are as well the studies that have held the most weight in decisions at the federal vaccine court. Few if any of the vaccine safety studies the CDC cherry picks are studies based on actual and real human physiology, and those are the studies we really need. Where are the listed safety studies collected by the CDC, on such as multiple repeat vaccines? Where are their safety studies on vaccine aluminum adjuvants? How about vaccine contamination? You are clueless, Jim Bob; a person masquerading as someone that is scientifically knowledgeable, when you do not have even close to a beginning amount of science to back your claims up. Worse than that, you deny and ignore an immense amount of unbiased science on vaccines that shows just the opposite of safety to be truth and reality.

    I do not base my conclusions that Wakefield was right, on only one 1998 study, and neither did he. I base that conclusion on the complete picture over-all evidence of facts. I base that decision on for one, the existing and unbiased science that the CDC refuses to acknowledge.

    Research References

    I base that conclusion on the overwhelming numbers of parents that have seen the regression of their health child into a lost state of ASD, after the MMR vaccine, and as well multiple vaccines. I base that conclusion on the fact that biomedical treatment protocols work, and in that they have reversed the ASD diagnosis in so many children.

    Biomedical Treatment in Autism (ASD)

    How would autism cause the gut problems as you maintain, when the gut problems were the first thing that happened right after the MMR shots and the child fell ill? The regression into ASD happens later. How do you explain that the child previously had no known foods they were allergic to causing gut problems, prior to the MMR vaccination; but after that they do, and they are severe in nature? If dietary changes eliminating typical allergens then heal the gut and the autism reverses, then why in the hell are you also trying to claim that ASD is caused by a defective placenta, as you did above? Wow, its an epidemic of and most ASD is caused defective placenta’s, who knew? 1 in 50 children? If that were true, perhaps the human race is doomed for extinction, ya think? But yet you will rarely if ever find any of those digestive disorders and nor ASD in any completely unvaccinated child, and certainly not 1 in 50. Do you DENY that?

  • There are more than enough studies to show that vaccines indeed have NOT been exonerated from causing ASD! In fact the long list of studies on this page, (most of them as well are published in Pubmed), show an entirely different story to be true than the misinformation and denial of all campaign the CDC has put forth to the public. If one day the CDC actually funded a study that ended up showing vaccines to be harmful, (doing potentially more harm than good) and or even if the study showed the direct link between vaccines and ASD; do you actually think they would allow that to become public knowledge? Not a chance. The truth is that nothing would be enough, as the liability they would have and face is far to great, and what they have to lose in that, is clearly everything.

    The Vaccine Damage – Science

    Aluminum Adjuvants – Lack of Safety Data – Lack of Aluminum Adjuvant Safety Studies

    Vaccine Contamination

    Gardasil-The Real Truth

  • The ONLY reason that VAERS would ever not have any checks to verify what is actually reported, is if the CDC and FDA were refusing to do their job. So, you are actually admitting that; thanks for letting us know, but I already knew that. Jim Bob, I find your claims about dismissing accredited scientists in published journals to be highly hypocritical, because look how much science straight out of Pubmed, you you have dismissed yourself. It has been right in front of you.

  • What can and have you proven wrong about what lusaaset stated? If those are not the actual time frames used, and you are in disagreement with that; then by all means go ahead and present with the correct ones? Those specific claims made do not even have anything to do with biology nor anatomy. You didn’t even bother to actually debate the issue, but to sling more name calling and degradation. At some point you people should decide to straighten your act out because all you are doing is making yourself look more foolish.

  • I VOTE to ban you Jim Bob from any further reply posting on these articles and on this website. The reason is that you are far more intent on angry denial, harassment, and degrading people than you are in any honest and rational debate. You want to reply like a bratty child, then go to some children’s website; as this one is intended for adults.

  • How many vaccines have you had recently; lets say in the last year, Dr Evil? Have you personally had as many vaccines in your life as the infants and children get today on the current CDC vaccine schedule? Be sure you aren’t recommending anything that you would not do nor have not done yourself. I would suggest and submit that there is a lot of hypocrisy in your statements. I have some suggested reading for you in hopes of correcting just a small part of your selective ignorance; although that is obviously not likely to happen on your part. Did you see that I use my real name and identity, and not an alias? Why don’t you? Makes it easier to get away with writing a bunch of thoughtless trash, doesn’t it.

    The False Foundations of Modern Medicine

    The Real History of Modern Medicine

    Death By Medicine

    And you see nothing yet wrong with that obviously very failed mainstream pharmaceutical health care situation? Wow.

    A Basic Understanding of Naturopathic Health Care

  • Jim Bob

    Wow…GH destroyed these clowns.

  • Jim Bob

    If you’re only using PubMed, You’re doing it wrong.

  • Jim Bob

    If you ready the article, you would know that its not the placental abnormalities that are the cause. But a sign of the likelihood that someone will have an autism diagnoses later in life. If that is the case and we are able to predict the likelihood of someone having an ASD prior to receiving any vaccinations, it would exonerate vaccines.
    I also have a question as to what you consider “junk science”. Again their method seems more legitimate than Quackfield’s yet you continue to hold that jerk-off in such high regard. Why is this junk but not quackfield’s study?

  • Argus

    I’m not with you, but you are welcome to take all those that write articles for those site, and commentors like Lowell Hub, and others that worship the likes of Tenpenny, Rebecca Carley, Andy Wakefield to this paradise.

    Heck, maybe you could even get some smallpox from one of the labs that still has specimens of it to take along. Fun for all.

  • Argus

    I vote to ban people that start almost every comment by just dismissing established evidence with a wave of their hand, followed with a huge list of references to marginally related topics from sources like whale.to, then ending with an admonition to read some diatribe or watch a video produced by a discredited, disgraced doctor.


  • Before we do anything like that, I vote you disclose your occupation and/or job title.

  • It is reprehensible.

  • GH


    GH again. You know….the guy that completely dressed down your made-up CRP argument (see his last article in the comments)

    I’m a real physician whom works in pediatric emergency medicine. I have not been bought by anyone in big pharma or the CDC. In fact in my training we are taught to be most annoyed by Big Pharma. We only learn later to be annoyed by Big Quacks. They both put human beings in danger. One largely by denying basic human rights to health care through profiteering, the other by creating misinformation. I am especially unfond of vaccination related quacks because I have the enviable task of seeing peoples sons and daughters with devastating infections that are vaccine preventable.

    I have been trained to analyze journals and presentations for their veracity and know the inherent difference between a story (what we in the know refer to as a case report) and large epidemiological studies. I encourage you and your group to read the users guide to the medical literature.


    This is OUR bible when it comes to how to read a science paper.

    All of which is to say I vouch for most of what Argus says. To boot someone like that from your website commentary is to reveal the projection of your own insular way of thinking.

  • Argus

    Like Richard Todia says, I “do a lot of stuff on the internet… not very exciting…”, and tell my mother’s friends I am in “Public Relations.” He’s wrong about the car, though. I drive a 1978 AMC Gremlin with rusted out floorboards.
    Your turn, now, Jeffry. How much are you making a year from this website?

  • The JAMA “Bible” is biased toward the pharmaceutical industry. I seriously doubt you have the temerity to go outside of what the priesthood would teach you.


  • GH

    Right. Priesthood. See heres the difference between priests and scientists. We pride ourselves on constantly rewriting our recommendations based upon what the evidence tells us. That’s not paternalism. Thats rational thought. Science. The pursuit of the truth. If you or any of your cohort provided reasonable evidence in your assertions I would hear you out. It’s based on my obligation to provided best practice to my patients. Unlike you I have an ethical code of conduct that I have to legally uphold (I don’t get the benefit of your Disclaimer to say whatever I want without reprecussion).

    Here’s a simple example of this. In the 90s the standard diagnostic work up for a <1 year old baby with a fever without a source (not obviously pneumonia, urinary tract infection, etc.) included blood culturing to rule out the possibility of blood sepsis. These recommendations have been revised to not do blood culturing as the risk of blood sepsis is something around 0.1% in most recent population cohorts. This percentage is above the threshold for false positive testing for bacteria which would lead to subsequent inappropriate antibiotic administration (aka potential harm). So you see – based on what we know up to date we change our recommendations. We debate these vigorously and publicly with all valid evidence heard.

    The JAMA Users Guide to the Medical Literature is not about making you believe me or not. It is a book designed as a reasonable read to provide people without heavy statistical degrees with the basic skills to read medical literature in a critical way. It teaches you to ask questions like: Is this study representative of my patients? Is there statistical power to provide answer X, Y, or Z? and so on. There is no hocus pocus JAMA agenda in there to push drugs or otherwise. Just basic statistics and critical thinking lessons. It's essentially teaching you the math language of medical literature. If you deny the contents within you are essentially denying math.

    I encourage you to read it. If you can find use of the materials to support your claims I'm welcome to hear it. No amount of quoting youtube videos of sad stories and blog posts will phase the scientific community. I've got a lot more sad stories in my pocket related to unvaccinated children than you ever will about vaccinated ones.

  • Tel

    If your vaccinated and the majority of everybody else is, why would you worry about the individuals who are not vaccinated? If they really truly work, unvaccinated ppl should be the ones worrying not the vaccinated!

  • This is pure fascism in america!

  • Really, now lets hear your explanation for that one, Again making claims and no explanation to back it up. Any twisted and lame accusation to falsely discredit, as well the same old false attempt at denial tactics and denial of all. Same thing, different day.

    And by the way I don’t use only and exclusively Pubmed, as there is a mix of several journals. Why don’t you actually look before you comment. Many of the studies are published in other journals but the same study as well also published in Pubmed. What are you telling me, that Pubmed is only good enough if the study fits your agenda?

  • Well Argus you know if I left then who would continually expose your refuse to get it, and misinformation? No, I think I’m staying a while, regardless of if you like it or not.

  • Well now you are clearly back peddling, Jim Bob. I asked you if not vaccines what you think the causation of the 1 in 50 ASD numbers are. You replied with that link titled, Study links autism to placenta abnormalities. You you are implying that it is a course the cause, or a cause.


    I believe Wakefields study is correct because of all the healthy children that have regressed into ASD right after the MMR vaccine. I additionally believe it is correct because so many children are now being recovered using biomedical protocols which is not much more than detoxing the child of heavy metals, dietary changes, and finding the correct supplements.

    Callous Disregard-Supporting Research Studies

    As well the number of these studies, support and actual replicate the findings that Wakefield did in that study.

    Junk science is easily determined when the evidence does not support nor match the titled claims.

    The only reason that you are not facing the facts, is that you choose not to.

  • jane Jones

    Load um up folks :)
    A revolution is coming to a town near you!

  • Roke Mafnas

    Why don’t you look at what’s in the ingredients to some of these and tell me if you want all of these things in your body when you’re finally done getting all your vaccines completed. As I as I was injected with the MMR shot within a week my left cheek swelled up to the size of a softball, I was only 3 years old at the time, since then I have completely lost all hearing on my left ear. It has destroyed all my nerves. This is straight from their website… Enjoy

  • TP2013

    Soooooooooo true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • TP2013

    My son came down with the flu the very next day after the flu mist nasal vaccine was given at school and the flu peaked at his school over the next several weeks. Kids were probably sneezing out the flu virus everywhere after getting the nasal mist. There’s a reason asthmatics are told not to get the nasal flu vaccine – it’s because it can make you sick!

  • Jeroen

    Ane who is paying for the costs of illnesses related to overvaccination?
    The US has the highest vaccine use in the world and autism (just to mention one of the many avoidable vaccine induced illnesses) is rising at rates never seen before. Who pays the taxes to treat and support all those people that cannot function? Everyone, including those intelligent enough to not be part of the problem.

  • Eli Cabelly

    Vaccination is a homeopathic remedy.

  • Health

    If vaccines are so effective, you wouldn’t get sick from un-vaccinated people if you are vaccinated yourself, right?

    The vaccine logic of ”herd immunity” makes no sense at all!

  • RebekkaLiebenberg

    I think this is great – this might finally prove that the virus shedding from vaccines are causing the outbreaks:)


  • AutismDad

    A toiletarian state

  • AutismDad

    Wakefield is used as evidence by provacs. Its they who claim is a study. And It was GSK board member James Murdoch who knew the skill Brian deer had to CREATE a pack of lies to discredit the story and those involved. And yes DEER WAS PAID.

  • Stacy Michaels

    I would just like to put it out there, that by knowing who is not vaccinated, the government might be using the information to let other people know whose kids cannot be vaccinated. This information could save a child who cannot fend for themselves life. If they avoid these likely sick children and people, these kids are less likely to get sick and possibly die.
    So, there’s that to think about as well.

  • Carole Hubbard

    The scientific system isn’t all its presented to be and largely serves the best interests of big pharma who has the millions it takes to perform random controlled double blind studies. But then apparently they massage the data, eliminating any unfavourable studies. And on the other hand traditional remedies and folklore are dismissed as worthless despite the fact they may have thousands of years of use behind them.

  • AutismDad

    Star of David badges for all of them right?

  • AutismDad

    Parents are left to deal with the collateral damage. They are also treated badly by having health officials claim its all genetic.

  • AutismDad

    Thanks DR DUH

  • AutismDad

    Wakefield DID NOT EVER say that.

  • AutismDad

    Wrong. But its great you’ve proven you have nothing to contribute but blah blah and nonsense.

  • CBLeigh

    Well then, based on this logic, will it also track people who are not fully vaccinated and protected? Those who are fully vaccinated but they have worn off or were never protected at all? Those who have recently received vaccinations and are potentially shedding those diseases for the next two to three weeks? Cus I’d like to know that.

  • CBLeigh

    Go, please. And leave the rest of the world to us.

  • CBLeigh

    I think the comment from JonforPrez was being sarcastic and just another example of bullying anyone who wants to question vaccines.

  • CBLeigh


  • Sarah Elaine Gallagher Layton

    Will it also track the kids who have colds? The people who have been recently vaccinated with a live virus, and are therefore shedding that virus? The most recent hospital to come out with the newest superbug, for which no antibiotics can touch? This is a preposterous argument.

  • Sarah Elaine Gallagher Layton

    Funny, because any country that the study of vaccinated vs. unvaccinated actually HAS been conducted in, has strongly suggested that unvaccinated are healthier. Also, unvaccinated don’t shed measles and flu like recently vaccinated do, as well as the fact unvaccinated are what was it, something like 6 times less likely to be asymptomatic carriers of disease. If anyone is spreading illness, it’s the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated. When somene gets sick the natural way (and pulls through just fine like 90+% do might I add) they get lifelong true immunity. Vaccines, if they ever do work, wear off at best. Herd immunity is a complete joke once you start looking at the percentage of adults who are up to date. Get your head out of your rear, stop regurgitating what has been force fed down your throat and start learning for yourself. Anyone with half a brain can see the gaping holes in the logic the CDC tries to sell us.

  • tonibark

    you need to think thru, a really preposterous argument considering recipients of vaccines shed viruses and vaccinated people get sick with all kinds of things including things they were supposedly vaccinated against.

  • AutismDad

    The idea that thousands should be forced to accept vaccines to protect a small number of people is ludicrous. People who are immunocompromized had better have a plan in place for themselves. And babies too young need parents with properly functioning brains to keep them safe. Its not the job of the whole city to bow to this request.

  • AutismDad

    Its a shot at provac zealots and other rodents.

  • AutismDad

    zealots do that, they are dogmatic, so watch where you step.

  • AutismDad

    They will target schools in the area

  • AutismDad

    You might want to watch that Norm it could get you killed. I’m with you on all points except gun play

  • AutismDad

    I wish I knew where I found this
    “No theres no sense of desperation, theres real desperation. Mainstream medicine and health agencies of every sort are dragging their collective heels, afraid of disclosing what they know they will find if anyone gets too close to the truth. They want debate ended and detractors silenced as their confederates spin lies about the Wakefield’s and Geir’s of the world. Quiet as they work to blame the victims by using the genetic strategy. But the public by and large believe the vacillating vaccinater’s version of truth, and so do law enforcement and courts. But the predictible patterns of spin are growing both old, and thin. The believability factor is quickly approaching zero.”

  • Norm Koch

    I say what I mean, and mean what I say. And I’m not afraid to back my words with action. And in this particular instance I have NO room for compromise. I am literally backed into a corner on this one. And the last place you want to be when I’m trapped in a corner, is in my face.

  • Norm Koch

    The day government forces drugs into my children against my will, is a good day to die.

  • harry norris

    i will stand beside you and they will only get the gun “from my cold dead hand”

  • T1mB0

    I fully support public disclosure of who is refusing vaccinations. People seem so proud of the fact that the refuse, they should show that pride publicly instead of hiding in their little groups.

    If you’re not ashamed by the fact you don’t vaccinate, then speak out publicly. Tell every other parent who goes to your child’s school.

  • T1mB0

    That’s pretty selfish thinking and it won’t fly in a democratic republic.

    You take advantage of every other public health measure, then say “Screw those kids who can’t get vaccinated for medical reasons”

  • T1mB0

    So the MMR vaccine causes Measles? You sure about that?

  • T1mB0

    strawman argument.

  • T1mB0

    Another strawman argument.

    There are good arguments against this technology. You hunting down the wrong dog.

  • T1mB0

    Not sure you understand what either of those mean…

  • AutismDad

    No it isn’t. What’s selfish is coercing thousands for the sake of dozens, who should actually have a plan in place to keep themselves or their loved ones safe.

  • AutismDad

    TROLL man argument

  • AutismDad

    another TROLL man argument

  • Jennifer R.

    “The innocent have nothing to fear,” is an old excuse for taking away rights. What about the right to privacy? Given that there could be attacks against such people, it’s not neutral to release this information. Watch out which rights you willingly hand over in the name of security.

  • T1mB0

    If you practice an ideology that may affect the health and safety of others, I think the people put in harms way because of it have a right to know about it. If an anti-vaxxer is so defiantly proud of their views, why not speak up for themselves instead of hiding like cowards?

  • T1mB0

    Mainstream medicine afraid of disclosing what they know? Huh?

  • Jennifer R.

    You bought the lie hook, line and sinker. I suppose you have had all your shots? Hep A, Hep B, HPV, pneumovax? How about your parents/grandparents/uncles/aunts? Will you turn them in for being a danger to others? What’s next, an app that tracks when people with mental illness forget to take their medciations, or don’t refill their prescriptions? How about a breathalyzer in every car to prevent drunk driving? How much privacy are you willing to give up in the name of safety? Strip searches every time you leave your house?

  • AutismDad

    Too complex for you? Huh?

  • Bitminimod

    I beg your pardon Mister “Oh-So-High-And-Mighty,” but people whom do not vaccinate absolutely Do Not Put Other People At Risk!——-This is a fear-mongering tactic designed and perpetuated by the CDC and the Governments because it’s all about power and control for them.

    Herd-Immunity is an illusion and nothing more than Pseudo-Scientific Propaganda created to instill public fear. It has already been scientifically dis-proven. There is absolutely no logic whatsoever in vaccination period!

    To say that I need to line up at my local doctor’s office for needle full of a so-called “protection-inducing” chemical-concoction ——-as opposed to simply Living a Healthy Life (By: Eating a well-balanced diet which consists of nutritious whole-foods; Exercising Daily as I know I should; And getting the proper amount of sleep——-all of which support and protect my immune system’s ability to defend against sickness and disease——–Then you mistake me for a greater fool than you think I am for advocating the exact opposite of what people should already be doing on a consistent basis in order to maintain their overall health and well being!

    God created us with an immune system that was designed to protect us——-If properly fueled!

    The problem here is not the people whom actually live a healthy life and properly fuel it (since they’re already doing the right thing), but it’s those whom think that we need to eliminate a person’s choice to live that healthy life by attempting to force everyone’s hand to accept this biggest crock of horse-manure our society has ever been exposed to——-That’s the real threat!

    Our way of life is being constantly degraded by those in power whom wish to take everything away from us.

    As Abraham Lincoln once lamented to the American almost a century ago…

    “The money powers pray upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy. I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption will follow and the money-power of the country will endeavor to per-long its reign, by working upon the prejudices of the people, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the republic is destroyed.”–Abraham Lincoln

    Like I said it’s all about power and control for them——-not about expounding the truth to you.

    And for all those whom would attempt to lay claim that many people have died off from many diseases so many years ago——-I say this:

    How many of those people that died from such diseases and plagues were of the rich-class of society?——-Well?!——-How many?! The answer is very few?——-Why you may ask?

    It is because, as many studies have clearly shown, a person’s health is directly correlated with how wealthy they are. You go to any poor corner of the country and all the run-down, government-neglected cities and you’ll surely see a common but disturbing trend——-many people unnecessarily living in abject poverty. And it is absolutely as a direct result of the greedy power and control our government and it’s filthy corporate friends exert over us.

    It is unnecessary because we have enough food to feed the entire world 7 times over yet so many lives perish every single day from starvation——-At the same time we refuse to concede to the idea that this capitalist, dog-eat-eat society is really what’s at fault. But that’s still no reason to ignore our true needs and not try your hardest to fuel our bodies the way they’re designed to be fueled (instead opting for a shot in the off-chance it will supposedly protect you).

    Ask yourselves this very serious question:

    What would happen to “Big-Pharma” if everyone, everywhere refused vaccines and instead, just started living a healthy life?——-Do you think they would still be the biggest money-making industry in the world as they are today?——-Think about that very carefully before deciding to respond on pure emotion. And yeah, I may have gotten a little emotional here to, but at least my objections are based on the reality of human function itself——-not human dis-function!


    And I know there are some out there whom will still protest that medicines are a necessary part of society. I agree that some medicine can at times be helpful in certain situations, but I don’t believe that I need to stuck with a needle to maintain my overall health and well being.

    And just because I refuse to get vaccinated——-Does Not Mean That I Put Other People At Risk! This is a Big Fat Lie!——-And I think we all know whom we can blame for that!


  • Bitminimod

    Instead of being a bully, why not try to understand the objections of others——-many millions of other people in fact. People have a right to decide for themselves their own medical care and if they decide to live a healthy life, that’s their choice and they don’t need to be stuck with a needle to live a healthy life.

    Vaccines have been proven ineffective because of the fact that they often stimulate wrong immune response.

    In 2009, a large study in Europe published in Pediatrics found that children who’ve been infected with measles are less likely to develop allergies. Among the children who never had a measles infection, those who had been
    vaccinated were more likely to have nasal allergies. Allergies were
    less likely in children who had had a bout of measles, but not in those
    who had been vaccinated against the measles.

    One of the goals of vaccinating is to create a memory in the immune
    system so that when a child comes across the measles virus in the
    environment their immune system has already been trained to have a quick
    response. Since their immune system has been trained to have a Th2
    response, that is the response it will have to the wild measles virus,
    instead of the normal Th1 response.

    The Th2 response will elicit high antibody production. These antibodies
    will attach to the measles virus which aid macrophages in
    identifying them and will prevent entry into cells. However any
    viruses that get past the antibody defense and into cells will be able
    to replicate due to the lack of Killer T cells that would normally be
    present in the Th1 response.

    These newly made viruses will burst out of the high-jacked cells. Since
    there are a high level of antibodies to these measles viruses, they will
    again attach to these viruses, tagging them for destruction and
    preventing them from getting into cells. However, any of the new
    viruses that get past the antibody defense and into the cells can also
    replicate and repeat the process over again.

    So what we end up with is a chronic measles infection that never
    actually shows up as the measles. In 1998 Dr. Andrew Wakefield observed a possible connection between
    inflammatory bowel disorder (chronic enterocolitis), regressive
    developmental disorder, and the MMR vaccine. In 2001 John O’Leary, Professor of Pathology at St James’s Hospital and Trinity College, Dublin, replicated his findings.

    The study done by Dr Wakefield is correct. That study didn’t draw any conclusions about specifically what it means to find measles virus in the gut, but the implication is it may be coming from the MMR vaccine. If that’s the case, and this live virus is residing in the gastrointestinal tract of some children, and then they have GI inflammation and other problems, it may be related to the MMR.

    Dr Wakefield said:

    ‘This new study confirms what we found in British
    children and again with Professor O’Leary. The only exposure these
    children have had to measles is through the MMR vaccine. They were developing normally until they regressed. They now suffer autism and bowel disease.’

    ‘The Department of Health and some of the media wanted to dismiss our
    research as insignificant. The excuse was that no one else had the same
    findings as us. What they didn’t say is that no one else had looked.’

  • Bitminimod

    Just another arm-chair warrior whom wants to push people around because the truth is they could be wrong.