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Two More Children Left Paralyzed by Vaccines Before Chinese CDC And WHO Admit Vaccines Cause Paralysis

In a shocking report, the Global Times reported that an expert from the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Dr. Wang Yu, has openly admitted that vaccines can cause severe adverse reactions, including swollen organs, epilepsy, and in some instances, the diseases that they were supposed to prevent!

His startling revelations came when newspapers revealed that two small children had become paralyzed after they had received childhood vaccinations. Dr. Wang Yu stated:

“Some recipients experience sudden swelling of the organs, which can be cured with timely treatment. Some, however, develop epilepsy. Others suffer irreversible damage to their bodies, an effect referred to as vaccine sequelae.” [1]

In other words, vaccines can cause irreversible damage to a child’s body and brain as a secondary consequence of the vaccination. Despite this amazing turn of events, it appears that this story has been passed by, largely unnoticed.

The Heartbreaking Story Unfolds

On October 9, 2013, the Global Times highlighted that two children had been left paralyzed after receiving childhood vaccinations in China.

Fourteen days after receiving a polio vaccination, four month-old Young Hu was left fighting for his life after he suffered heart failure and slipped into a coma. After three days of treatment, he slowly recovered, but was left paralyzed in his left leg.

According to the report, staff at the hospital in Jinan, in the eastern Chinese province of Shandong, reported the baby to be suffering from polio.

Young Hu was not the only child who was affected. Six year-old Zhang Liyang had suffered similar problems after she received vaccinations for polio and chicken pox.

According to reporters, Zhang Liyang received the polio vaccine in December 2012. Nine days later, the six year-old had also been hospitalized.

After receiving routine vaccinations, the youngster complained about a pain in her back. At first, her mother thought her daughter just did not want to go to school, but she kept complaining, so her father Zhang Gongxian took her to their local hospital. Her mother said:

“The doctor asked me if she had received any vaccinations. I told him ‘Yes, she had a varicella vaccination.’ The doctor told me that the vaccine can possibly lead to illness, but we didn’t think it would become so bad.”

From the report, it is unclear if Zhang received the polio vaccine and the chicken pox vaccination separately or both at the same time.

The Global Times stated:

”Little Zhang then lost feeling below the waist.

Desperate for answers, her father took her to a major hospital, also in Jinan, where doctors diagnosed her with myelitis, or inflammation of the bone marrow in her spinal cord.”

The little girl, who was reported to have loved singing and dancing, has been left incontinent and confined to a wheelchair. Although she receives therapy, doctors have told her parents that she is unlikely to recover.

Dr .Wang Yu, an expert from the Chinese CDC, explained the magnitude of these adverse effects, saying:

“If a person’s immune system doesn’t work properly, it is unable to stimulate antibodies. Therefore, rather than being destroyed in the body, the pathogens attack the nervous system and actually cause the disease that they are supposed to prevent.”

He warned that it could take several days or months for a patient to present the symptoms of an adverse reaction, making it even more difficult to identify sequelae.

In other words, although adverse reactions to vaccines do not always appear immediately, they can paralyze children and, in some cases, actually cause the disease that child was vaccinated against!

Vaccine Pushers Admit The Truth About Vaccines

It is about time that the CDC admitted the truth about vaccines, as they have probably been aware of the dangers of the polio vaccine for some time. Especially, as the developer of the polio vaccination, Dr. Jonas Salk, admitted this exact same thing during a meeting in 1977, when he was reported to have said:

“Live virus vaccines against influenza and paralytic polio, for example, may in each instance cause the disease it is intended to prevent …” [2]

In April of this year, the World Health Organization also admitted that the polio vaccination could cause polio. They stated on their website:

“Oral polio vaccine (OPV) contains an attenuated (weakened) vaccine-virus, activating an immune response in the body. When a child is immunized with OPV, the weakened vaccine-virus replicates in the intestine for a limited period, thereby developing immunity by building up antibodies. During this time, the vaccine-virus is also excreted. In areas of inadequate sanitation, this excreted vaccine-virus can spread in the immediate community (and this can offer protection to other children through ‘passive’ immunization), before eventually dying out.

On rare occasions, if a population is seriously under-immunized, an excreted vaccine-virus can continue to circulate for an extended period of time. The longer it is allowed to survive, the more genetic changes it undergoes. In very rare instances, the vaccine-virus can genetically change into a form that can paralyze – this is what is known as a circulating vaccine-derived poliovirus (cVDPV).” [3]

Although the OPV polio vaccine drops are no longer used in the US, they are still used in abundance in developing countries.

So, why have vaccinations been allowed to continue for so long and what exactly is being done about it?

Activist Sallie O. Elkordy Speaks Out

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Advocate Sallie O. Elkordy courageously speaks out against dangerous vaccines.

One person who is trying to end this ‘child abuse by the state’ and who is not afraid to speak out is Ms. Sallie O. Elkordy.

Last week at a public hearing in New York, she made a stand for the rights of children, not only in New York but throughout the United States of America, when she tried to stop the governor from mandating two more unnecessary vaccinations for the under-fives as a condition of day care. [4]

At the hearing, held at the Department of Health & Mental Hygiene on October 23, 2013, she gave a speech lasting just over eight minutes. She made her thoughts and opinions very clear and, quite frankly, she should be congratulated for her bravery. She said:

“We are being given the choice, if we are being given a choice at all, of a life-stealing vaccine, but it is not being said to us this way. It is being said ‘Would you like a life saving vaccine.’ So my new legislation, which is ‘ban vaccines’, has, ban vaccines 2013, this year. (sic) There is no reason to put it off, as the ingredients are one hundred percent toxic and the diseases which result, which are all diseases in internal medicine, are deadly and are life-shortening or diminishing your child or yourself.” [5]

This is an extremely strong message, but one that rings true for many parents. Sallie did not stop there, though, because a few days later, she followed her speech by submitting this letter:

“Dear Robin Winholz,

I left you with 4 items at the hearing on October 23, 2013 at the NYC Department of Health and Mental Hygiene Hearing regarding Vaccine Mandates for day-care, preschool and kindergarten children. They were:

1) Proposed Legislation to “BAN VACCINES 2013!” (for three reasons: the Toxic ingredients, the Diseases that result and the Intent to cause those diseases)

2) The movie “Silent Epidemic: The Untold Story of Vaccines” by Gary Null, PhD, which I also asked you to hold a screening of at the Department. I told you I would help you promote attendance if you were to do this.

3) A card that read, “Investigate Before You Vaccinate” which had links to websites which take you directly to the inserts for vaccines and list the known adverse reactions to each.

4) The CDC’s own literature indicating a low incidence of flu this year.

Please share this information with everyone on the panel that will be evaluating vaccine mandates for infants and toddlers.

I leave you with a quote from Dr. Boyd Haley, Professor and Chair, Department of Chemistry, University of Kentucky (2001), “A single vaccine given to a six-pound newborn is the equivalent of giving a 180-pound adult 30 vaccinations on the same day.”

It is important to note that Dr. Sherri Tenpenny has recently stated that 30,000 nurses have quit their jobs to avoid being vaccinated with the flu shot. These too were mandated, either by the hospitals they worked at or other authority. I guess the question is, who should possess such authority?

Let me know if you will be screening the movie I gave you and if so, when.

I look forward to receiving a transcript of the hearing from October 23rd. You are welcome to e-mail it to me at this e-mail address or mail it to me at the address below.

Please also inform me when the Committee that will be evaluating our statements and information will be meeting so that I can attend.

To your health!
Sallie O. Elkordy”

Conclusion

Even though vaccines have been known to cause brain damage and have done very little to prevent disease, governments continue to add more and more vaccines to the children’s vaccination schedule. This is despite the fact that the developer of the polio vaccine has openly admitted in 1977 that live virus vaccines such as influenza and paralytic polio can cause the diseases that they are intended to prevent.

As the cracks are beginning to show, it appears that the CDC and the WHO are beginning to crumble under the weight of complaining parents and professionals. This is not before its time.

Armed with these facts, isn’t it about time that we thought of our children and stopped vaccinating them until vaccinations have been proven to be safe and the CDC can openly admit that they are safe and effective, instead of the reverse? After all, as parents, we have a duty to protect our children and keep them safe.

 

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1. http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/816593.shtml#.Umn7LVMwmSo

2. www.desireerover.nl/wp-content/uploads/…/Vaccination-Quotes2.pdf

3. http://www.who.int/features/qa/64/en/

4. http://vactruth.com/2013/10/21/nyc-vaccine-mandate/

5. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php…

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Photo Credit

Christina England, BA Hons
 

  • Wendy

    Thank you Sallie for standing strong. We should all have the right to refuse such dangerous methods of prevention.

  • margie54

    At my age we were all vaccinated with the SV40 in Polio Vaccine+many of my friends have cancer. Vaccines have never been safe. Pure water+toilets + simple hand washing are the best way known to prevent diseases. What was worse is they kept using the Polio Vaccine all up even after they knew it would cause cancer. They (the USA GT) didnt want to have people question the safety of newly founded vaccines that are to be forced on us for our own benefit. Vaccines are dangerous, just look at their ingredients. I say the only winner is big pharma+any depopulation agenda that might be in the works!

  • Free People

    We should all be doing what Sallie O. Elkordy is doing, kudos to her!

    My small effort of passing out laminated cards with the truth websites printed on them to expectant mothers I run into has met with success judging by the feedback I’m receiving from some of them, and I will continue to do this.

    “3) A card that reads, “Investigate Before You Vaccinate” which had links to
    websites which take you directly to the inserts for vaccines and list
    the known adverse reactions to each”. – is a great idea, and I will include the title “Investigate Before You Vaccinate” on my new cards.

  • Yellowriver

    Great news to hear that Sallie got her points across. Too many children have now suffered vaccine injury. Shame on the governments for allowing this to happen. Too many companies making too much money out of our children’s misery.

  • ponerology

    Ms. England appears unwilling to come to the unavoidably realistic conclusion that all vaccines are poorly disguised eugenics which have been accepted by a great majority of mind-bombed people because of the very old science of marketing. (AND the government and bureaucratic threats of possible ‘consequences’ to those who refuse vaccines don’t hurt either.)
    Most people simply roll over and play dead until it’s actually their time to die whether by cancers or auto-immune diseases induced by the vaccines, or by the actual disease the vaccine supposedly was to prevent, etc., etc.
    Vaccines will never be proven ‘safe and effective’ because they are not MEANT to be safe and effective; and the CDC will never admit to any such thing either. The CDC works for the corporation called the U.S.A (established in 1868) and the USA corporation works for the U.N., the CFR and the Royal Institute for International Affairs (precursors were the Lord Alfred Milner group and the Cecil Rhodes foundation). As George Carlin said, it’s one big club and you AIN’T in it.

  • ponerology

    “They” knew the SV40 virus was in the polio vaccine from the BEGINNING. It’s their way of letting you know (all these many years later via youtube videos of that despicable ‘doctor’ Maurice Hilleman) that the joke has been on you for many, many years. Salk and Sabine and Hilleman knew SV40 had no apparent other purpose BUT TO cause cancer in humans. They went ahead with marketing the ‘savior’ Salk and his poisons to the many worshipers at the altar of ‘science’. It isn’t a ‘might be’ in the works agenda. IT IS IN THE WORKS and it’s been a war on how you think and what you believe and what you can be made to do and believe for at least 150 years in terms of ‘science’ and the ‘miracles’ of science. It’s eugenics. And it’s not just for ‘minorities’. They openly experimented on minorities, Native Americans, mentally retarded, etc. and secretly poisoned the rest.

  • This below expose titled Letters from Albert Sabin is a somewhat interesting read, and speaks of attenuated viruses in the vaccine capable of reversion to virulence. This is well would be compounded by its use in unsanitary environments and such as it still is in use in underdeveloped countries today. They have yet been unable to admit to media wise, and nor explain away the known 48,000 cases of acute flacid paralysis existing today in India alone. India of course has used in great quantity the oral live polio vaccine. The claim is that there are some 200 know enteroviruses existing in such an environment, and as said causation of these cases of AFP. Oddly those said enteroviruses do not seem to be prevalent in countries but those using the oral polio vaccine.

    Letters from Albert Sabin
    http://www.virology.ws/2009/01/19/letters-from-albert-sabin/

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign
    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

    Scientific proof that the known cancer causing SV40 virus, a previous contaminant in the polio vaccine, is obviously either contagious; or the virus is still in the vaccine/s.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/scientific-proof-that-the-known-cancer-causing-sv40-virus-a-previous-contaminant-in-the-polio-vaccine-is-obviously-either-contagious-or-the-virus-is-still-in-the-vaccines.html

    Bill Gates when asked about those 48,000 cases of AFP, entirely ignored the question, only to further sing the praises of the savior vaccines.

    Bill Gates confronted by Info Wars reporter
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xywfcEvj53o

  • dan

    When is society gonna wake up and start giving a damn.. :( More sacrificial lambs for big pharma!

  • Gary Cox

    In answer to your first post ponerology, perhaps you should look at this piece by Rima E Laibow and Christina England

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p3DHtxjLlg#t=57

  • D3ad M3553nG3r

    Yeah, it seems like Christina is NOT as “ponerology” portrayed her. Thanks for the input!

  • D3ad M3553nG3r

    Please read the “Guest” comment under Wendy’s below.

  • 441019

    From my own experience, my younger brother, as a baby, came down with whooping cough after his third DTP vaccination. (This was many, many years ago.) He was very, very sick, but he did recover. And my youngest brother had no vaccines as a child and yet was very healthy, and he also had a very high IQ.

  • 441019

    It’s a mistake to believe (as we are taught and many people believe) that the government is altruistic, that they really care about the public and want to help people. According to Jon Rappoport (investigator, writer), there is a medical cartel which, at the very top, is interested in killing people, not in helping them. This is hard for many people to believe. Henry Kissinger stated, “Depopulation should be the highest priority of U.S. foreign policy towards the Third World.” (National Security Memorandum 200, April 24, 1974)

  • ponerology

    Okay, I watched the video. All well and good.
    So why does England hedge her bet at the very end of the piece by writing, “Armed with these facts, isn’t it about time that we thought of our children and stopped vaccinating them until vaccinations have been proven to be safe and the CDC can openly admit that they are safe and effective, instead of the reverse?” ??

    I suggest that we don’t hedge our bets by pretending that vaccines can ever be ‘proven’ safe when they can never be safe no matter what “study” comes out to purport they are, because they are not meant to be ‘safe’. To pretend that anyone can ever get the truth from the very organizations whose existence is predicated on the lie that they exist to “help” you but instead are meant to eliminate you and take your money while they do it, is sheer stupidity. That is the sign of someone who runs to their abuser to beg them to stop the abuse and expects that it might end simply by their ability to plead their case well. There is no negotiating with evil. And the CDC and WHO aren’t going to “crumble” under the pressure from vactruth and the thousands of other (rightfully) complaining people. The people behind this agenda understand and respect power and its ‘proper’ use. And they understand how to use those who are their bureaucratic minions to keep the vast majority in check.
    So stop hedging bets. Tell it like it is and let the chips fall where they may. We owe our allegiance to the Truth first; Then we owe the Truth to our children and families and communities. The world can never be ‘saved’; only individual people can be saved, one person at a time.

  • elnura

    I applaud Sallie O. Elkordy in your face aggressive approach. You cannot use subtlety with vaccine apologist and those that just follow the flow of the vaccine industry. People have been so indoctrinated into believing that “vaccines work” which is the mantra that they repeat, that they don’t even question it because my Doctor says they are safe. I was in a debate with a guy that was in “the health care industry” that was telling people not to pay attention to what I was posting because I was anti-vax. The article was on gardasil so I asked him to present a independent double blind placebo based controlled study on gardasil. Of course he couldn’t because there are none. He than stated that the CDC and FDA wouldn’t say it was safe and effective if it wasn’t true.

    I reminded him that Vioxx, Avandia, Thalidomide, Swine Flu Vaccine, Bextra, Baycol, Cylert, Darvocet, Propulsid and Doctors used to promoted one brand of cigarette over another in prints ads and TV commercials ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuveAzHbYs4) all declared safe and effective by the FDA & CDC. Even DDT in the 1940’s & 50’s was declared safe enough to bathe your children in it, wash down the walls of your home, wash bed linen & curtains with it, wash down your milk cows, all declared safe by the Public Health department. For those who aren’t aware of it DDT poisoning manifest the exact same symptoms as Polio and many Doctors don’t believe there is a polio virus. Many in the 1950’s these Doctors believed people were experiencing DDT poisoning and did not recommend the polio vaccine. Once their systems were clear, the symptoms disappeared. My point is, just because the government says its safe, doesn’t mean it’s so. The mere fact that vaccine companies in collusion with the CDC & FDA will not release vaccines safety and effectiveness studies demonstrate not only a contempt for people, it also demonstrates a diss-connect from humanity. As state in the Simpsonwood Transcripts one of the many revealing statements made by Dr. Johnson, a public health official from the state of Michigan:

    Dr. Johnson makes an incredible statement, one that defines the problem we
    have in this country with the promoters of these vaccines. He states, “As
    an aside, we found a cultural difference between
    vaccinologist and environmental
    health people in that many of us in the vaccine arena
    have never thought about uncertainty factors
    before. We tend to be relatively concrete in our thinking.”Then he says,
    “One of the big cultural events in that meeting… was when Dr. Clarkson
    repetitively pointed out to us that we just didn’t get it about uncertainty, and
    he was actually quite right.”

    The makers of vaccine call themselves vaccinologist. There is no training or degrees for this self serving title they have given themselves. Dr. Russell Blaylock states it this way in his paper “The Truth Behind the Vaccine Coverup” http://medicalveritas.com/manBlaylock.pdf

    It’s an ill-defined term used to describe
    people who are obsessed with vaccines, not that
    they actually study the effects
    of the vaccines, as we shall see throughout this
    meeting. Most important is the admission by Dr.
    Johnson that he and his fellow
    “vaccinologists” are so blinded by their obsession with forcing vaccines on society that they never even considered that there might be
    factors involved that could greatly affect human health, the so-called “uncertainties”. Further, he admits that he and his fellow “vaccinologists” like to think in concrete terms; that
    is, they are very narrow in their thinking and wear blinders that prevent them from seeing the numerous problems occurring with
    large numbers of vaccinations in
    infants and children. Their goal in life is to vaccinate
    as many people as possible with an ever-growing number
    of vaccines.”

    There are so many layers to the vaccines holocaust it’s difficult to know where to start to stop the abuse. Exposure on a massive level I think is called for. Not just the rhetoric that vaccines are dangerous, but exposure of all the people who were at the Simpsonwood Meeting who were told the problems that existed and instead of taking steps to remedy the situation, chose to cover it up because financially they felt the industry couldn’t survive the lawsuits that would surely occur.

  • Thanks for the great article! This kind of information needs to get out to as many people particularly parents as possible, to at long last put an end to this medical fraud, medical child abuse and medical experiment without informed consent and without a control in direct violation of the Nuremberg Code.

    I only have one disagreement:

    “Even though vaccines have been known to cause brain damage and have done
    very little to prevent disease…”

    Vaccines have done NOTHING to prevent disease, as vaccines don’t prevent, but PROMOTE ill-health, which is the REAL reason why they are given.
    http://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/do-vaccines-save-lives-what-infectious-disease-mortality-graphs-show/

    http://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/jon-rappaport-interviews-former-vaccine-researcher-dr-mark-randall/

  • I would appreciate it if you would include this link on your cards FP:

    http://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/to-vaccinate-or-not/

    Thanks and keep up the good work!

  • In the very unlikely event that the CDC were to openly admit that vaccines are safe and effective, we would immediately know that it is yet another despicable lie just like all the others they promote.

    CDC = Centers of Disease Creation

  • Free People

    Thank you Erwin. I was going to do that even before you suggested it. Found it to be a great website, and so are your comments!

  • White Elk Clearwater

    Our 1st son got most of his mandatory vaccines. He is the weakest of all 5 & PDD. The 2nd got his 1st DPT “late” & within a couple weeks came down with whooping cough (the “P” in DPT). The local clinic dr’s refused to believe it was whooping cough. He almost died of it. I had to take him emergency by car to a hospital where my diagnosis was confirmed. The specialist in the hospital saw that I was better able to take of him than they & sent us home with an oxygen tent asking me to teach him what I used to save my boy from choking to death in the attacks. I used shiatsu to release the respiratory spasms & homeopathy to cure him. 15 other children in our neighborhood also contracted the disease from the vaccine at the same time. the clinic used a lame excuse to destroy the stock on hand thereby avoiding being sued.

  • sawmpaw

    Amazing story about how you cured your son of pertussis! We plan on using no vaccines but homeopathy for prophylaxis and infectious disease treatment.

  • sahmpaw

    Thank you so much for this article! I am a believer in what you write about and have experienced my daughter having some regressions after getting the standard vaccine schedule through 15 months (thankfully through homeopathy she is better than ever). I should have never read a baby care book because my first instinct in the hospital when they wanted to give her Heb B was “no way!” She was just born. I hadn’t researched vaccines or read up on anything at that point. I wish I would have just went with my instincts and never cracked open a book. My husband didn’t like vaccines and used to joke that they had micro computers in them (from X Files) but my OB laughed and said they were safe so he got DTAP and I got Flu and H1N1 while pregnant. I just wish more people would question and realize that even if their child doesn’t get an adverse reaction they could have long-term health consequences from getting vaccines.

  • Free People

    +1 I subscribe to Jon Rappoport , private investigator, and get his newletters. Exit from the Matrix. He’s right on the money. Medical cartel, pHARMa, the Agenda. He’s right, and he makes it very clear, and provides the statistics these criminals are hiding from the people. He’s also got all the dirt on vaccinations too. Good stuff! No More Fake News dot come.

  • Free People

    +1 “Vaccines have done NOTHING to prevent disease, as vaccines don’t
    prevent, but PROMOTE ill-health, which is the REAL reason why they are
    given”.

    I am 100% in agreement with you and I will yell this from the roof-tops till I die. The biggest quackery in the history = VACCINES! They are the Ultimate Weapons of Mass Destruction… this is what they were created for and WE are THE GUINEA PIGS!

  • Free People

    +1 ..”I suggest that we don’t hedge our bets by pretending that vaccines can ever be ‘proven’ safe when they can never be safe no matter what “study” comes out to purport they are, because they are not meant to be ‘safe'”.

    I have to agree with you here. Vaccines were produced and intended as Weapons of Mass Destruction and in my opinion can NEVER be safe, I don’t care what they attempt to do with them. The entire idea of INJECTING toxins, synthetics, viruses, witch’s brew or Frankenstein Soup into a body, human or animal, is in my estimation Frankenstein science, and the biggest quackery that has ever existed in the history of the world. If vaccines make sense to anyone, they need to get their heads examined.

  • 441019

    This is shocking, that your son and 14 other children contracted the disease from the vaccine. I had a younger brother who was born in 1958 who contracted whooping cough from the vaccine. He might have been about 9 months old or so, because he was already walking. Whenever he started coughing, we would turn him upside down and hit him on the back and large amounts of mucous would come out of his throat.

  • Freda Birrell

    We truly thank Sallie O Elkordy for her bravery and standing up for the little ones of the world. It is also teenagers and young women you are being harmed by the HPV vaccines. See this story of a young Australian woman who developed Acute Disseminated Encephalomyelitis (ADAM) after her three shots of Gardasil: http://sanevax.org/my-personal-gardasil-journey/
    Vaccines can harm all and this is happening. See our web http://www.sanevax.org just too many stories of young people badly injured and sadly have died after the HPV vaccination. The words of Dr Wang Yu have got to be publicised far and wide and organisations like the WHO have now got to be held accountable. No more words like ‘not vaccine related, just a coincidence’. These precious little ones and our teenagers deserve a lot better. Thank you Sallie.

  • Janette Robb

    I echo that Freda. Sallie is on a mission here and deserves all the support we can give. But also a great big thank you to you Freda – and your colleagues at Sanevax – for all the tremendous work you are doing in highlighting the dangers of the HPV vaccine and the effect it is having on young women.

    And lastly, but by no means least, a huge round of applause for Christina, for combing through the news and producing such an informed, if terrifying, article. Lead on ladies!

  • Barb

    How very sad for the parents and a devastating lesson to learn from, New York’ers will loose their freedom to choose if they don’t insist on it, BRAVO to those who do, where’s the ACLU on this one, don’t children’s rights count?

  • Bupay

    Has anyone actually read reference 3 or are you all satisfied with simply quote mining it? Billions of doses have been given and millions of cases of polio have been prevented worldwide. You weep for these two cases that have been cited but ignore how grave a situation this could be if not for vaccination against polio, and other diseases for tht matter. The irony of quoting this article to demonize it as a potential cause of polio itself is that it discusses a theoretical risk in populations that are significantly under immunized. Is that not what your goal is, to generate an underimmunized population?

  • Bupay

    Not sure if you are joking or seriously misinformed? I hope it is the former. Over 1000 cases of measles in the Netherlands in the Bible Belt (I.e. in vaccinated population). Must be just a coincidence, right? Now 13 cases in southern Alberta, Canada, again in unvaccinated children, and index case visited the Netherlands. Just another inconvenient truth for you to deal with.

  • arcadia11

    you might want to do your own research on just when polio started disappearing and when it started reappearing. your comments are not only willfully ignorant, but dangerous. i hope to god that you did not procreate. if you did i wonder how you would deal with your own child dying or becoming paralyzed because of a toxic, always toxic, vaccination. would it be a different story? i wish there were no more people like you on this plane.

  • arcadia11

    the aclu will never address the toxic vaccines tragedy. it is a united nations ngo. controlled opposition. they do not take on the big or important issues. they prefer dealing with porn cases. bill gates, as a un funder and shill, is a perfect example of where the un stands on deadly injections.

  • arcadia11

    you are obviously a troll. time for you to move on. you will not convince anyone on this website to sacrifice their children.

  • Bupay

    Always amusing when people like you use terms like ‘willfully ignorant’ , ‘dangerous’, and ‘do your own research’. I always enjoy irony! I read your comment below and, combined with the nonsense above, have decided you are not worth anymore of my time. If only society could be separated into people like me and those that are like you. It would be the perfect experiment. I’ll leave you to your conspiracy theories. By the way, we landed on the moon, the earth is round, and the Holocaust really did happen. “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.”

  • Bupay

    Calling me a troll for presenting data that contradicts someone’s dubious claim? I guess I should just let ignorance go unchecked. I’m not expecting to convince anyone since data of this sort is just an inconvenience for someone who is convinced they already have the truth. I would love for you to explain why it is not 1000 vaccinated people got measles. I would be happy to change my mind if the scientific data was convincing. I doubt you would say the same. Take care.

  • t frost

    Heres another quote for you. Since you’re quoting… There are those who see, there are those who see when they are shown, there are those who dont see. Leonardo da vinci. You obviously fall into the latter category.

  • Bupay

    Please be the first to demonstrate through peer-reviewed scientific research the conclusions you are making. Your Nobel prize awaits. Or you can chat with your friends (interesting company you keep) on this insulated forum about how the brightest scientists who have spent decades training and have done the research, who understand research methods, who know how to critique and conduct studies, etc. have got it all wrong. You can replace all the arrogant, corrupt doctors and scientists in charge of infectious disease and public health since they clearly know less than you do, given all of your internet research. By the way, have you published anything at all in a scientific journal on this topic? Enjoy your conspiracy theories, ignore scientific consensus, and continue to quote mine primary scientific research as if you understood what it all meant.
    I am a proponent of science and medicine and it advances by formulating and testing hypotheses, not assuming it is right regardless of the data. Your quote is simply ridiculous! I would change my mind if the evidence supported it, would you? I highly doubt it and therefore suggest you look in the mirror and recite that quote.

  • josh

    Here’s some more quotes for you:

    ‘‘only about one percent of serious events [adverse drug reactions] are reported.” David Kessler, former commissioner of the FDA

    “Cancer was particularly unknown until cowpox vaccination was introduced in 1853. I have had to do with at least 200 cases of cancer and never saw a case of cancer in an unvaccinated person.”Doctor C. W. Clarke MD 1909.He must be the father, of what you are pushing aside, as just a crazy conspiracy theory.

    I will leave you with one more, and probably the most damning to your polio argument. It came in 1977 and was during a testimony by Dr Jonas Salk, himself, who stated that “mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961.”

  • josh

    “mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961.” Dr Jonas Salk
    The inventor saying this is far better evidence than any “peer reviewed” study they try to produce to say the the opposite.

  • josh

    What is your point? no one is saying that these outbreaks don’t ever happen. The small portion of vaccinated kids got the measles as well, which you forgot to mention. there were no serious complications or deaths and a 0% attack rate in the age group that were old enough to have lived through the previous outbreak. Meaning they got measles their bodies immune system handled it, much like it would chicken pox, and they were immune the next time it came around. This is not evidence for vaccination, it is evidence that vaccination is not needed. It shows that with a healthy strong immune system, measles is not nearly as dangerous, as you would like to make everyone think

  • Bupay

    1) Poor Josh does not even know where expert opinion ranks in terms of strength of evidence in science. Perhaps your continued studies at the University of Google will enlighten you. Do read a bit more about what Dr. Jonas Salk said and did while you are at it.
    2) Cancer and vaccinations? Quoting from 1909? Really? Really? I am not even going to bother.
    3) Read my comment to tfrost. It applies to you too, perhaps even more so.
    4) I will not be wasting any more time on you either. You can continue with your superficial understanding of this topic (I use term ‘understanding’ loosely). It is a futile exercise to try and educate any of you on this issue. It is fortunate that public health policy is not made by the likes of you.

  • josh

    1) a doctor saying that something he created that was supposed prevent polio, actually caused most of the polio case, should I guess be thrown out because studies that are funded and ran by people inside the pharmaceutical industry says different.
    2) you try, and disregard, all people that say vaccines are dangerous as crazy conspiracy theorist, that reads something online and knows more than the medical establishment. So I showed a comment showing that this is clearly wrong.
    3) see 2
    4) I have seen first hand what vaccines can do to children. Once you see multiple kids that are perfectly healthy, then shortly after a vaccination, they become autistic to realize that vaccines at the very least have something to do with causing it. Trying to “educate” me that something with high toxic substances in it will prevent and not cause ailments, is futile, you are right about that. I have to much common sense and am capable of using logic and critical thinking, so I will never be tricked into thinking something so asinine.
    5) your ad hominems are very weak in troll standards, you should really work on them

  • Bupay

    Sorry but I cannot help but reply just one more time. I do find your comments amusing so thank you!
    Do not deceive yourself into thinking that someone cannot detect your true intellectual stature. Your thought formulations are quite telling, not to mention their content.
    Jonas Salk invented an inactivated (‘killed’) vaccine. Take a guess as to what that might mean regarding the accuracy of your statement? Please read more carefully!
    On your next trip to the hospital, which I hope you never have, do tell the doctors to prescribe vitamins and minerals instead of that other stuff. I am sure your body will heal much faster!
    Do you remember that time when common sense told us the earth was round, that it was not the centre of the universe, and that living organisms evolve? Or what about that time common sense built the computer or cell phone you are using, or discovered the Higgs-Boson, or general relativity? Me neither!
    I promise now that I will not reply as my ad hominems are clearly substandard. My apologies!

  • josh

    Salks statement is quite clear, and that’s his vaccines caused most of the polio. I don’t care if what kind of vaccine they claimed it to be, it doesn’t change what he said about it.
    I haven’t taken a drug sense I was forced to in the army, and I will not nor do I need to ask anyone what vitamins I need to help with any ailments I may come down with because I take responsibility for my own health.

  • Bradley Gragg

    You conveniently left out a key operative quote from Dr. Yu:

    “If a person’s immune system doesn’t work properly, it is unable to stimulate antibodies,” Wang said. “Therefore, rather than being destroyed in the body, the pathogens attack the nervous system and actually cause the disease that they are supposed to prevent.”

    Thank you for pulling information out of context to ignore the truth and push disinformation.

  • Bradley Gragg

    “The problem with quotes on the internet, is that anyone can type whatever they want and attribute it to someone more well known than they, so that they may appear to have a stronger argument than they actually do.” – Abraham Lincoln.

  • The truth is, there are no scientific measures before and after vaccinations. If you’re the unlucky parent who has a child injured by vaccines, you’re on your own – and there are many of us in this situation.

    And before you judge parents who question vaccines, realize most of us once thought they were safe and effective as advertised.

  • josh

    That’s a well known quote from him from when he was speaking in front of Congress or the senate. Don’t remember what one.
    “To problem with trying to disregard quotes from the internet simply because something’s printed on it are false. Is the same problem of blindly believing something just because it is printed in a peer reviewed journal or a Text book. They are both logical fallacies” Socrates

  • alf

    Hi Josh, I just wanted to say, I totally agree with you… I just hate ignorant people, like the ones making comments to you…

  • alf

    Do you even have kids? You are (ignorant), You seem to think you know it all, but if that was the case you would have all the information. and stop talking out you butt.

  • josh

    Most of them are paid to post by big pharma, atleast the one’s that were attacking me above that are now a guest account.

  • AutismDad

    They like to call us anti-vaxxers and ignore the fact we trusted a pediatrician as an expert then were stabbed in the back.

  • AutismDad

    That’s good advice, you should have followed it.

  • AutismDad

    I yam what I yam and tha’s all that I yam….POPEYE