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Ignorant Nurse Calls Parent “Loser” for Not Vaccinating Her Child

A nurse working for Palmetto Health Children’s Hospital left this note calling the mother a “loser” for choosing to not vaccinate her child.

A recent post on the Great Mothers (and others) Questioning Vaccines Facebook page is starting to gain a lot of attention.

According to the post, a mother who made a trip to the emergency room at Palmetto Health Children’s Hospital was left a nasty note from a nurse calling her a “loser.”

The nurse apparently disagreed with the mother’s choice not to have her child injected with neurotoxic chemicals and dangerous biological agents.

The Facebook post from the brave mother read,

“At the ER my 9 month old is learning to pull up and when he fell to his butt he twisted his ankle. Anyways he was exposed to hand foot & mouth on Halloween and has a fever. Of course I told the ER we don’t vaccinate so when she came to give him meds for his fever she put this next to me…. Umm wtf is that supposed to mean?!?!” [1]

This note has outraged so many parents into leaving a response that the hospital issued this reply on their Facebook page [2]:

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A snapshot of the Facebook page where Palmetto Health Children's Hospital apologizes for the behavior of one of their nurses. (Taken November 5th, 2013)

A snapshot of the Facebook page where Palmetto Health Children’s Hospital apologizes for the behavior of one of their nurses. (Taken November 5th, 2013)

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Should the child’s mother and other parents be outraged at this nurse’s behavior? Absolutely.

This courageous mother can be proud that she stood her ground in the face of such covert hostility. Name calling is an indication of the emotional maturity level of this nurse.

I also encourage you parents to continue to give constructive feedback, as parents, to Palmetto Health. I give them credit for taking ownership for their staff and hope the corrective action being taken isn’t just to this one nurse, but to all.

Why?

Because the “bad behavior” they mention DOES reflect their culture, standards, and what is acceptable (behind the scenes)! The nurse obviously felt safe enough to write this note in the presence of the parent and other medical staff.

But, I think there is an important point to make.

While insensitive and bad form, I don’t agree with some parents who are calling for this nurse to be fired. This nurse should have the opportunity to correct her mistake and behavior. I believe her actions are an expression of the system that taught her, and we should look at this more closely.

It’s important that we look deeper into this matter because this note was a passive-aggressive expression of her internal beliefs and emotions regarding vaccination.

This is a Product of the Medical System

The behavior is learned. It is a pattern.

What this nurse did is not an isolated incident, and I would say it is a common experience among parents.

If you decide not to vaccinate your child, you instantly know what I am talking about. Doctors (and nurses) have been reported as saying very cruel things to parents who question vaccines or do not vaccinate.

I think the following list is a pretty accurate depiction of how the medical profession generally views parents in regards to vaccination refusal.[feature_box style=”5″ only_advanced=”There are no title options for the choosen style” alignment=”center”]

  • You are a parasite to society.
  • You are being irresponsible.
  • You are a bad parent.
  • You are not a doctor.
  • Your child cannot go to school without vaccines.
  • Your child will die without “life-saving” vaccines.
  • You are free-loading off of society’s herd immunity.
  • You are getting the benefits of vaccination without paying the price.
  • You are an “Internet Mom.”
  • You don’t understand science.
  • You do not care about your child’s health or future.
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Of course, the American Academy of Pediatrics is not above recommending that doctors pull the fear card by firing parents from their practice for refusing vaccines. [3] Additionally, a recent study shows that 26 percent of parents resisted vaccine recommendations when doctors assumed their patient was getting vaccinated. When doctors encouraged parental involvement, 83 percent resisted. [4]

As you can see, the system demands total obedience to the doctor’s authority. Never mind the fact that most of these doctors would “officially” recognize an adverse reaction to a vaccine. Remember, this is an authority without responsibility—the doctors and nurses are not liable for anything that happens to your child.

This is the mindset the current medical system develops.

Conclusion

Become an informed parent and stand your ground against bullies in the medical profession. If you don’t know much about vaccines, the good news is that this situation can be easily fixed.

You should also know this well-documented fact: Lower education levels and socioeconomic standing are associated with higher completion rates for vaccination. [5] In other words, the more educated a mother is, the less likely her child will be vaccinated.

Here is how you can start to become an informed parent right now:

  1. Know your rights! Look at your state law regarding vaccine exemptions. [6]
  2. Understand what your doctor injects into your child.
  3. Look at the adverse reactions that can occur after vaccination to help you assess the situation. [7]
  4. Be aware of psychological triggers your doctor or nurse uses. [8]
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  1. Facebook Post
  2. https://www.facebook.com/palmettohealthchildrenshospital
  3. http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/115/5/1428.full
  4. http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2013/10/30/peds.2013-2037
  5. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1781415/
  6. http://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements.aspx
  7. http://www.medalerts.org/
  8. http://vactruth.com/2012/12/18/5-powerful-psychological-triggers/
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Jeffry John Aufderheide
 

Jeffry John Aufderheide is the father of a child injured as a result of vaccination. As editor of VacTruth.com, he promotes well-educated health professionals, informed consent, and full disclosure and accountability of adverse reactions to vaccines.

  • Crunchy mama

    I’m not sure about people not getting fired for things like this. It seems to be getting worse and a slap on the hand is not going to help. Someone in my family was in the hospital about halfway through a pregnancy for some testing. When they found out the baby was disabled the nurse had the audacity to tell her that she needed to get rid of the baby because it wasn’t normal and she already had other kids anyway. She never even got on trouble for that. Nurses don’t have the right to insult patients, ever.

  • derekwardlies

    i was told, when i questioned vaccines for my son,that they could remove him from my custody for refusing.didnt have the internet back then ,had no idea there was any way out.also,just to let people know,here in oregon they are literally forcing 2 shots on everyone having any contact with any medical facility for any health reason,even in the emergency room.the nurse comes up behind you and jabs you with flu and pneumonia shots before you have a chance to resist.6 friends and my next door neighbor have already had this happen

  • 441019

    This is outrageous!

  • 441019

    I suggest that these people who have been injected without their permission should get together and hire an attorney and sue the medical facility or facilities.

  • 441019

    I had a doctor a couple of years ago who was critical of me because I didn’t want a flu shot or a pneumonia shot. I felt that it should be my decision and that I had a right to say no.
    To be injected with toxins against one’s will is a violation of your bodily integrity, and in that way is similar to rape.

  • NE 914

    Please elaborate re. this outrage. What part of Oregon did this happen in
    (hospital name?) and were the unwilling vaccine guinea pigs visiting someone in emergency or in emergency as patients?
    It’s urgent that when this kind of medical assault happens that the hospital get deluged with complaints. Additionally, I agree with 441019, some type of action should be taken against the hospital in question. Consider sending some details so this hospital can get a deserved earful.

  • derekwardlies

    im in beaverton.when it happened to one friend he went to an appointment at a clinic in portland.my other friend lives in scappoose so im not sure where it was she went when it happened.my neighbor went to the emergency room at providence hospital for breathing problems when they got her,my other friend lives in forest grove,all of us are either on medicaid or are uninsured,thats the only thing everyone has in common.i have been afraid to seek medical help anywhere because of it.i already have a huge heavy metal toxicity issue and have become MCS and EHS because of it.i cannot take a flu shot right now much less 2 toxic vaccines.i am having signs of both MS and dementia like symptoms.not only do i risk another series of blatant misdiagnosis’,i am in absolute fear of their “mandating” treatments.the last time i went in i had an urgency care doctor insist i have an unneccessary gall bladder surgery,even tried to schedule me the same day,he told me i dont need my gall bladder anyway, on top of the nurse getting more and more agressive trying to get me to cooperate with the flu shot at the same time.now that my friends got jabbed without their consent,i am scared to death to see any doctor.my experiences happened at virginia garcia clinic in hillsboro

  • Emilyjackjones

    This doesnt surprise me in the slightest. 20 years of parenting and vax refusal have led to me seeing a very ugly side of medical staff including two nurses on two separate occasions 10 years apart regarding two different infants both with the same attitude – that I should vaccinate behind my husbands back. “he wont know if you get it done” said one. “you have primary parental responsibility” said the other. This stems from them totally ignoring what I was saying to them and picking up on the one sentence that our vaccine refusal stems from my husband seeing first hand proven vaccine damage with his auntie when she was a toddler. They then both assumed that the problem was him and that I was being dragged along by his opinion and therefore should LIE to my husband and vax without his consent! Hideous!

  • Erwin Alber

    The mother needs educating as well, namely that treating fevers with meds is counterproductive and downright dangerous. Fevers in response to infections including vaccinations are the body’s way of dealing with an immune challenge and should not be interfered with, but allowed to run their course.

    I highly recommend this excellent book by Dr Robert Menelsohn MD which includes chapters on fever and vaccination:

    http://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/how-to-raise-a-healthy-child-in-spite-of-your-doctor-dr-robert-mendelsohn-md/

  • JOHN

    I visit Mums and children in Play Areas in Malta.I ask them politely if they have any idea about vaccine contents and particularly the effect of mercury and aluminium on brain cells. Are they aware that no vaccine has ever been proven to be effective? About 90% do not believe what I tell them. Almost all of them reply that they trust their Doctor and therefore he or she would never inject their child with any poisons.
    It is absolutely clear from these responses that Doctors here flout the Law concerning the requirement to obtain proper Informed Consent,every time they vaccinate. I was invited to run a series of monthly Articles in Maltanow.com in August.because there was an enlightened Editor. After 3 Articles he regrettably had to cancel further contributions because of the negative feedback he was getting from his readers!

    I never expressed personal opinions, and only quoted well qualified Doctors and Researchers. People like Dr Buchwald a highly respected Doctor who has fought in the Courts for many years in support of vaccine damaged children. In a Banner Headline on whale.to— a highly recommended website on all disease and vaccines, he describes vaccination as a crime against humanity.

  • Emma Moorby

    I recently changed my doctor and took my children along for our first visit there.
    He immediately jumped to the point of not vaccinating my children, ridiculed and laughed at anything I had to say about the dangers of them and said as far as he was concerned he was looking at a case of child neglect and I was a selfish mother who was putting other members of the community at risk.
    HE SAID THIS IN FRONT OF MY CHILDREN!!!
    It is not compulsory in the UK to vaccinate at present, but this individual clearly felt so safe that he could treat me like this and get away with it.
    In fact when I told him he was breaking constitution rules of my right to choose he laughed and said I can do what I like as it is my duty as a doctor to protect the community!
    This “doctor” is also a lecturer at Oxford University and very well respected, so any complaints will fail, although I have emailed a complaint to the NHS, so we shall see, but Im looking for a new practice now as I cannot subject my children to this abuse again or myself for that matter.

  • Mindanoiha

    A most relevant article illustrating complete lack of tolerance and respect regarding differing opinions.
    This is also the case in Norway:

    Although vaccination is officially voluntary in Norway the rates of vaccinations are extremely high. Reasons for this include tight control of the population by the health authorities who, together with many doctors, have close connections with the pharmaceutical industry, the oil/pension fund’s considerable interests in the pharmaceutical industry, and close censorship of the media.

    Reporting of vaccine side effects and information to the public regarding this
    issue is completely controlled by the health authorities: The fox guards the henhouse.

    The Norwegian Humanist Association has many thousand members and is partly funded by the taxpayers. Its many activities include courses for youngsters and
    preaching tolerance and respect. The association maintains that it “bases its
    ethics on reason and experience, rational and critical thinking, feelings and
    human compassion”.

    Are these ethics actually understood by the association?

    A typical statement is this one by Even Gran who uses the title of journalist and
    who works officially with the association:

    “If you have publicly warned against the MMR vaccine because of the risk of
    autism, you have blood on your hands. Sorry. It is that bad”.

  • Seth Gross

    “…hire an attorney and sue the medical facility…” Now we’re talking!

  • Michelle

    Good on you Emma , I have asked a Doctor ;” With respect , do you know how vaccinations are made ?… they said ” I have to admit it’s parents like you that know way more than us Doctors ” !!
    In Australia the amount of time , medical students get in university on vaccinations is , wait for it …. 4 hrs … are you kidding me ????
    The fact still remains – There is no proof they are safe
    – There is no proof they are effective
    in fact there is so much evidence to show the opposite !!
    Sometimes we deal with Ego’s .I have found , there are some good Doctor’s – restricted from telling the whole truth , as they will lose their licence , but they have been very respectful . Settle on a good one .
    Good luck , Michelle

  • Alex Jones

    OK, here’s my early morning rant. Sorry, but when I wake up early after a full night’s sleep and check my email and read something like this, I just can’t stop. Here it goes…

    The last sentence in this article states: “In other words, the more educated a mother is, the less likely her child will be vaccinated.” Although I agree with this article’s topic, the last sentence does not make sense, in light of the fact that doctors and nurses are both “highly educated”.

    There are highly “educated” individuals on both sides of this debate. However, the doctors and nurses who promote vaccination are close-minded and prejudiced with the information and education they choose to regard and respect. I can argue this fact with evidence of their consistent, abusive behavior of non-vaccinating parents (see the nurse’s note in the photograph above).

    The medical “beliefs” of doctors, nurses, medical schools, and the A.M.A. remind me more of a religious cult who blindly follow the priests of the American Medical Association. Amazingly, with all the billions of dollars shoveled to the medical establishment, they still can’t cure cancer, diabetes, or AIDS [in fact, their toxic chemotherapies and drugs have killed millions of patients]. They ignore nutrition and natural healing methods and prefer medications with dangerous and deadly side-effects. I can argue this fact with evidence of all the advertising of dangerous pharmaceutical drugs promoted on TV and in magazines.

    Yet I’m supposed to trust vaccines – the one-size-fits-all “shoe” of the medical industry, the toxic witch’s brew in the little bottle. When the vaccine harms a patient, all parental arguments are dismissed. Oh, it CAN’T be the vaccine that caused autism! Oh, it CAN’T be the vaccine that caused brain damage, seizures, blindness, S.I.D.S. or crib death! Really? How do you know this, doctor, when you don’t do ANY studies on the links?

    So the difference between the two sides seems to lie not in the level or degree of education, but in the open-mindedness of an individual parent to challenge the status quo, or established beliefs, of an accepted system, such as the medical system.

    Have a nice day…

  • Ashley Anzar

    My doctor told me I was committing suicide for my son by not vaccinating him. I rolled my eyes told her she was dramatic and got a new doctor. End of story.

  • Kizzy

    Everyone…. 4 words…. Diatomaceous. Earth food grade a detox chelates metals and many more. Do ur research I dont vaccinate either

  • joey

    I applaud you. Obamacare…what happens when your choice of doctors(4) is now run by Government?

  • Mordred

    Thank god there are Docs out there that just simpl don’t take insurance anymore, and you are still free to choose them :)

  • Mordred

    Here is an easy way to make doctors (and nurses) stop talking about vacs to you. Well really there are 2 but this is the way I recommend. Just say these few words: “.I believe that God has given each of us a prefectly healthy immune system. Vaccinating to me is denying that my God is all powerful and violates my most fundamental belief system.” If they continue to push, you just reply with: ” I feel discrimintated against because of my religious beliefs.” They will stop right there 99% of the time. The other 1% you find another doctor.

  • nurse theresa

    As a nurse, we are taught by the pharm companies about drugs, and if you ask most nurse what the vaccine exist of , all components they could not tell you, I finally got educated by my daughter after my grandaughter had an adverse reaction to the vaccines she has to live with forever,, rest of my grandchildren are vaccine free, and so much healthier, i though i was informed but indeed I knew very little, educate, educate. educate

  • anna billich

    the flu vaccine coming from Mexico might contain the rabies virus. Somebody inject the nurse before she damages someone

  • zamanu

    Here in Texas I took my youngest daughter to the ER because she broke her arm while playing outside. After I filled out the registration card, the first question out of the attending nurses mouth before they even began to take vitals was, “Is she up to date on all her shots?” I was not shocked seeing as how vaccines are pushed on the population as a form of population control, but I looked straight into this nurses eyes and told him, “My child did not come to have you inject her with toxic chemicals, she’s here for a broken arm, and vaccines have nothing to do with examining her arm, and the proper course of treatment for her broken arm.” He replied to me, “I’m required to ask, it’s standard hospital procedure.”
    Be cautious, because these people who fancy themselves medical professionals have been indoctrinated to the highest levels with false information regarding vaccines and the human immune system, and they honestly have never questioned how humanity made it tens of thousands of years without them. Another interesting correlation is the fact that our ancient ancestors lived much, much longer than we do now, and that is not only corroborated in the Bible, but it is in many, many other religious texts.

  • Corrie

    We have it wrong, the note was signed, Loser.

  • anna billich

    doctors should not inject vaccines. They are not immunologists and have no education in vaccine ingredients and adverse reactions. They are indoctrinated by the vaccine and drug industry for whom they work. They are not mothers who stay at home and are there when the child starts to deteriorate and see first hand. They think we are stupid and do not have a right to our child. What do you expect from someone who has the snake for its emblem. A snake is a snake is a snake

  • Ashley Anzar

    If obamacare wants to control what doctor I see there is a simple fix. I pay the fine which is cheaper then the 18k per yearI already pay for a family of 5 and pay out of pocket for a holistic doctor. Prob a lot cheaper than I already pay.

  • anonymous

    The problem is that she probably only got a slap on the wrist and told don’t do this again, not in writing.
    And there are those in a lower income bracket that have brains that work, and can put two and two together. I started researching WHY my son had changed so drastically after a set of shots, and realize that though his had been severe (despite what his pediatrician was trying to say – and in hindsight I SO wish I had printed off the list of reactions that are on the CDC website and waved it under the idiot’s nose!) my daughters had had reactions that should have caused alarm too! We have not vaccinated since my son was 2 years old. He will be 13 this January and we are still dealing with the fall out from vaccinations. Most of us grow up with the thought that the practice of medicine is something that is there to HELP, not harm. But that is far from the truth.

  • anonymous

    this is why we do not use mainstream medicine, even though “friends” (and I use that term loosely) have strongly suggested we need to go ahead and sign our kids up for medicaid and that this new health care fiasco is SUCH a good thing.
    I’m sorry, but since we fired the lousy doctors that we had and turned to friends who truly are friends and know more than I about good health and natural remedies and such, we have been healthier by far than we ever were.

  • Derek Ward

    I do not believe that in the litigious United States of America, any health professional would slip up behind someone and inject them with any vaccination without their consent. Up here in Canada, you have to sign a consent form and acknowledge that you have been made aware of possible side effects.

  • Many of us parents have learned the hard way, at an enormous cost. What the medical establishment fails to realize or ignores, is the fact many of the parents who are vocal about vaccines have injured children.

    Keep up the good work and I hope what happened to your child does not paralyze you, but gives you passion and inspiration to tell your story.

  • Interesting perspective.

  • This is the system they have to conform to in order to keep their job.

  • DrKeteDC

    Good comment. Back when I was in school, I haven’t checked the stats lately, most docs did not vaccinate their own children or themselves. This is more of the statist-type thinking that they are smarter and better than the average person who must be told what to do for their own good. They see nothing wrong with being able to decide for themselves but force others to be injected.

  • DrKeteDC

    There isn’t even a vaccine for the illness this child supposedly had. More and more I am getting reports that medical ‘professionals’ order parents to have their children vaccinated as a sort of overall preventative ! Not only is this not supported by an science, it borders on lunacy. Idiocracy, here we come.

  • anonymous

    As a nurse, I am ashamed at how she portrayed our profession. We teach our nursing students to practice patient centered care so everything is based on patients wants/beliefs. It doesn’t always turn out that way though. It is hard being a nurse who chooses to actually think for myself as opposed to just blindly following the medical system. I have been “verbally abused” regarding my vaccination beliefs and we recently got “dismissed” from my pediatrician’s office since we didn’t vaccinate my 6 month old. Interesting how when people decide to research for themselves how easy of a choice it is.

  • Lilie Mnuk

    All you have to say is that’s between me and my pedi, or me and my doctor.

  • zamanu

    As it was “designed” to be that way! Keep the intellect out of the picture, that way the agenda moves forward!

  • Great recommendation, Erwin.

  • Keep at it John. You are planting the seed.

  • Allie

    First what struck me is even if you were accepting vaccines for your child, medical staff should never vaccinate a sick child with a fever, ear infection or really any other injury unless its rabies.

    When my child was a baby & needed surgery the DR threatened me with he would turn me in for child abuse for not vaccinating my child. I don’t vaccinate my children. i I quoted to the DR you don’t vaccinate while a child is already sick. He backed off, but we never saw him again for anything else.
    That used to be quoted in medical books regarding not vaccinating sick children but seems to have gone by the way side, with the kool aide all hospital staff are forced to drink when treating patients.

  • boogity boogity boo

    I was vaccinated as were my children . We didn’t die . OMG shocker I know get over yourselves.

  • And should you be called a loser for your choice?

  • im1n50

    I was too and 34 years later, I still have autism.

  • Parkerfamily7

    Your obviously not educated … Boogity

  • Alex Jones

    Ha! That’s funny.

  • embarrasedRN

    I feel your pain. I’ an RN and do not take vaccinations of any kind. After getting the MMR booster when I was 15 I ended up with epilepsy.
    I healed myself with a high fat diet and eliminating processed foods and sweeteners.

  • Carmen Vargas

    Holistic care needs to be more accessible. I got a medicare advantage plan because it covered ‘alternative’ but no ‘alternative’ practitioner will take the insurance. few mainstream will take my plan next year.

  • Denny

    A school nurse angerily told one of my patients that her child “was the only child not vaccinated in the entire school. If there is an outbreak of the disease her child would have to be sent home and not allowed to attend school”. My patient responded by saying if everyone else was vaccinated then how could there be an outbreak? The nurse then became very frustrated.

  • Carmen Vargas

    You and your doctor will be fined if you don’t do as told …

  • Carmen Vargas

    you must sign a paper allowing any violation when obtaining care. no need to explain anything but occasionally for surgery/anesthesia. being autistic even educated, this has happened to me and not just vaccines. there is no recourse. believe what you want but I am banned from any medical care in my state from being autistic and trying to have a say in what is done to my persons.

  • courageandhope

    And they shouldn’t give meds for fever, either, unless it’s over 105 degrees, according to Dr. Russell Blaylock, neurologist. See his video, “Vaccines and Brain Development” about how vaccines can cause brain damage through inflammation. We’ve been hearing a lot about how Tylenol given even once a month increases health risks for children, and how it increases the risk of autism when given with vaccinations. Tylenol, or aceteminophen, depletes the body of glutathione, needed to help the body get rid of the toxins in the vaccines.

  • Carmen Vargas

    no attorney is willing lol and there is no case unless they did this BEFORE you sign the admission form. in an emergency, consent is implied.

  • courageandhope

    This is why we have to repeal the Vaccine Injury Compensation Act so we once again have liability for physicians and other health professionals who inject vaccines, as well as vaccine manufacturers, for the damages vaccines cause to at least some children. Then physicians will care about getting informed consent like they used to. But of course a baby can never make informed consent, or a child. They are too young to weigh the pros and cons, after being informed of all known and unknown risks (like the ones vaccines are not tested for, like do they cause cancer or infertility). But I have seen clinical trials where consent was obtained from children. Perhaps they were foster care children who did not have parents to protect them, but it is very wrong to use children or babies as guinea pigs in testing drugs and vaccines. The Nuremberg Code insists human beings have the right to informed consent before submitting to medical procedures.

  • JOHN

    My response to Even Gran below in the Norway letter is the statistic forced out of the UK Government under the FOI Act, concerning vaccination statistics for 1990, which I assume were the latest available at the time.
    Under the Yellow Card Reporting System it is reckoned that only 2.5 % of vaccine damage cases are reported, but let’s be charitable and assume it is as high as 10%. In which case deaths from the MMR and DPT were estimated to be 70 in that year,in the UK,[But it may have been only in England and Wales] which would be 280 if only 2.5% were actually declared.
    In addition to which were literally 1000s of injuries, some of which are permanent disabilities.

    Perhaps he is not aware that there have been at least 83 Court Awards for Damages, accepting the link between the MMR Vaccine and Autism.?.

    The Child Health Safety website states that vaccination against Mumps and Rubella is verging on being a Criminal Act, as the diseases are so benign, and in many ways beneficial, but the serious repercussions which can be caused by the vaccines are never spelled out to the Parent or Patient.

    I almost forgot !! Deaths from these diseases or bacterias in the UK average ONE per annum.—-against 70 deaths caused by the Vaccines?

    Who then has blood on their hands Mr Gran?Try to wash it off.

    Read what Dr Mendelsohn and many other experienced Doctors say about the MMR Vaccine –. It is useless !! Since they care for their Patients, why would they make up such a damning admission?. Get the facts from VacTruth and Whale.to

  • Kc Craft

    I am 8 months pregnant and while at my doctor appt last week was told I needed to get a Tdap & flu shot to protect my unborn child from pertussis and the flu ,I told my doc that I wasnt comfortable with that at present and wanted to go do some research on this(when I was pregnant with my now 4 year old I was told that vaccinations of any kind for an expecting mother was a big no no),anyway to my surprise instead of encouraging me to go educate myself he got highly aggressive on the subject like I didnt have a choice in the matter,like anything other than what he was “suggesting” was careless,irresponsible & certain doom for my unborn child! I agreed to the shots just to get him to back off and when the nurse came in I told her I had to use the bathroom and then slipped out untouched.The biggest red flag to me with anything is someone who does not promote education of oneself for oneself but in most cases unfortunately resorts to bullying and scare tactics.I felt violated when I got home and have done nothing but research since.I have since realized that I will not be taking my 4 yr in for his shots nor this baby.

  • Alex Jones

    A few years ago H1N1 flu vaccine caused a lot of miscarriages, so good thing you got out. How terrifying is it that we feel unsafe in the hands of these doctors? They get pushy and aggressive – maybe because they get a financial kick-back for each injection sold. Maybe they earn a vacation or win a flat screen TV when they reach a quota – like the Amway salesmen. Do you really think they do it for the public good? No way!

  • Derek Ward

    Where the hell do you people find nonsense like this – unbelievable.

  • StuG5

    I know I’m going to take a lot of flak on here for this but here it goes. The whole ‘Vaccines cause horrible diseases’ thing all stem from an incident in the early 2000s when the UK news media created the MMR vaccine scandal almost for themselves. What they did was print a study done by a Dr Wakefield that linked the MMR vaccine with autism. This of course exploded into the huge scandal it was to become and it is still something people believe to this day. The problem is the ‘study’ that Wakefield did was simply a collection of 12 anecdotes linking the two. Both these things are relatively common so finding cases where both exist is not hard. What the media irresponsibly didn’t do was print the more numerous scientific studies (ones with large sample groups and scientific method) that show no provable link between MMR and autism. Instead they went with the sensational story and it’s something that sticks even today.

  • Alex Jones

    StuG5 – I hope you get fully vaccinated. Please make sure you get your flu vaccine this year, and while you are at it, go ahead and get the HPV vaccine. Have a nice day!

  • susan swain

    As a nurse, I am embarrassed that a member of my profession would think it is acceptable to communicate with any patient this way. I am very skeptical of vaccine research and effectiveness and do not vaccinate my daughter any longer (after doing some selective vaccinations), but never would I call a mother who chooses otherwise a “loser.”

  • Loooking for Truth

    OK please provide a link to those studies that show vaccines have no links to Autism. I can’t wait to see them. If you can not or do not provide requested links it should be noted that you are talking out your arse, a fraud and are just regurgitating lies you have been told.

  • Roxanne

    I suggest you visit your ex-propagandist doctor in a few years with your
    healthy child and show her/him how much superior his health is for NOT
    following the doctor’s orders – not sure how long ago this happened and how old your child is now – Then ask her/him, how many of their other patients
    can brag such good health!!

  • Roxanne

    You’ve described the church of vaccinology dead on! I suggest that you
    go to http://www.thinktwice.com and print up the studies (link-and only partial
    list) on the horrible effects of the Hepatitis B vaccine alone and shove it under the eyes of the blind devotees.

  • StuG5

    Just google ‘Andy Wakefield MMR scandal’ and you’ll get a ton of links to other studies. I also invite you to show me a study the definitively links vaccines and autism

  • StuG5

    Wow a personal attack. That didn’t take long. I thought you people supported a person’s choice whether or not to get vaccinated…

  • derekwardlies

    who would i talk to about this.who do i tell about what is going on here with these shots?where do i report this to?

  • Alex Jones

    How is it a personal attack? I am suggesting you support your claim that vaccines are safe by getting your vaccines. Both of these vaccines are currently supported and promoted as safe in the media and at your doctor’s office. YOU think vaccines are safe, right? You infer through your comment that vaccination is safe and that Wakefield was wrong. So go get vaccinated! Protect yourself! As for personal attacks, you are attacking Andrew Wakefield, who is a hero in my book. His medical career has been ruined by the medical establishment based on lies and misinformation.

  • Amanda

    Wakefield was actually later vindicated by another parallel study, but that is not mentioned of course. However, without Wakefield there are still plenty of reasons to be careful of vaccines. The vaccine court in the US (which is quite a kangaroo court, set up with the parents of the injured child carrying the heavy burden) has awarded billions of dollars for vaccine injuries, including cases where it was proven that vaccines were in fact the trigger for cases of autism. So please, do more research before believing you know the entire issue. Because you show that you know just an itty little bit by your statement above. There’s much more to vaccines than Wakefield and autism..

  • Anastasia

    I vaccinate my child but after reading a lot can you please tell me the dangers of vaccines?

  • Amanda

    I would refer you to the US vaccine court cases where vaccines were deemed to be the trigger for specific cases of autism. If you have children, is this your standard? “Well, it hasn’t been proven in a study to be harmful, so sure, let the kid have it.” But please do follow the advice of Alex Jones below and get your shots! Especially gardisil. The thing is, informed parents are not so worried about autism as about many other more serious concerns.

  • jayk

    Read Evidence of Harm by David Kirby

  • Amanda

    Well, that seals it! I’m going to go and get myself and children fully vaccinated right this moment because a person with a rather ridiculous screen name stated his/her family “didn’t die.” How dare I foolishly research and carefully consider before injecting substances into myself and children. Whew, I’m glad you told me otherwise.

  • jayk

    so glad you didn’t die, but have you read any of the literature regarding vaccines and the autism epidemic in this country, didn’t think so. Start with Evidence of Harm by David Kirby. Get educated.

  • Alex Jones

    A really easy way to get started on vaccine dangers, is to start with the victims of vaccines, the people who have been injured and disabled by vaccines. For example, go to facebook and search “Gardasil”, which is the HPV vaccine. Many members of the Gardasil group on facebook are mothers of injured children. Today, there was a radio show, in which 2 vaccine-injured guests talk about the suffering they’ve endured since receiving the Gardasil vaccine. The link is http://www.voiceamerica.com/episode/73902/hpv-vaccine-injured-girls-i-am-not-a-coincidence
    You are not going to find university or corporate studies on the dangers, deaths, and injuries of vaccines readily available because those are the institutions which promote them. However, the radio show I mentioned above does have government statistics and data to back up the dangers. At minute 13:00, the hostess states that 73.3% of girls who received the HPV vaccine developed new medical conditions after receiving the HPV vaccine – as a result they did not complete the series of three shots recommended.
    Gardasil is the #1 money maker for Merck & Co; their current stockprice (I just checked) is $46.05. Now, where do you think THEIR priorities are? There are 7 billion potential patients on the planet – that’s a lot of money to be made if they can hide the death rate a little while longer.

  • Joel Thomas

    Most likely this was a note left inadvertently in the room… Still very unprofessional and mean. I am an RN and this is why we arent always treated as professionals.

  • StuG5

    I do vaccinate. Well, except the flu vaccine which I generally don’t get through pure laziness on my part.

  • I would start here.

    Educate For The Vaccine Injured
    http://www.educate4theinjured.org/about/4563705538

    Session 22, The Vaccine Safety Conference: Dr. Russell Blaylock
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9DkcpEEBPI

    How Vaccines Harm Child Brain Development – Dr Russell Blaylock MD
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QBcMYqlaDs

    Dr Russell Blaylock Vaccines and Immunoexcitotoxicity
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiFqwzxKqp0

    Children Worldwide Are Contracting The Very Diseases They Are Being Vaccinated Against
    http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2013/02/03/children-worldwide-are-contracting-the-very-diseases-they-are-being-vaccinated-against/

    The Current Failure of Pertussis and Measles Vaccine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-current-failure-of-pertussis-and-measles-vaccine.html

  • Alex Jones

    Well then, you are very lucky to not have suffered the side effects that countless individuals have. You must have an extremely strong immune system to withstand the ingredients that have been injected into you.

  • Kella

    My pediatrician shook his head and rolled his eyes (like I was a terrible mother, making a bad decision for my child) when I told him my son would not be getting the flu vaccine.

  • StuG5

    Wakefield himself was vindicated when he was reinstated after losing his license due to the MMR scandal, which I admit should never have happened to him. His study has never been recognized as valid however due to its laughably small sample size. Any medical procedure, including vaccines, carries some risk with it for a small percentage. The point is these medical procedures save more lives than they ruin. There’s a reason people aren’t dying in the thousands from things like smallpox anymore.

  • Barb

    It may be a bit off topic but I apply the same principles to my animals: that ALL vaccines are unsafe, ineffective and unnecessary and NO ONE, NO LAW can take away my RIGHT to CHOOSE.

    I was only able to find one vet in my area who would provide emergency orthopedic services without proof of rabies (the shot with the highest rate of tumors, adverse reactions which they now prefer to give in limbs for easy amputation), thank goodness he’s a skilled surgeon.

    Perhaps he thought he could change my mind, I chose not to take his condescending, patronizing, scare mongering attitude personally, unlike his delivery his intentions were likely good but my dogs’ well being trumps ALL.

    It’s clear vet’s and doctor’s livelihood depends on upholding the lies and junk science vaccines are based on, meanwhile friends’ dogs suffer from a litany of health issues including seizures, paralysis, autoimmune disorders and incredibly high numbers of injection site tumors.

    My dogs are super healthy, shiny and tumor free AND I’M the crazy one?

  • Becky

    Vaccine injury is real and we the taxpayer foot the bill. Over 2.6 billion dollars have been paid to adults and children injured and killed by vaccines (including autism). There is a 75 cent tax on every vaccine that funds this program. It is time for people to open there eyes and hearts. Vaccine injured children and there parents should be treated with compassion and understanding. There needs to be tolerance and respect for every parents choice. No matter what each parent chooses, we all are trying to protect our children. All parents should be informed of the risks. I was not, and I don’t believe many parents are. http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/index.html

  • becky

    * their parents (oops) :)

  • susan

    My 8 month old daughter had three hours of seizures after her second series of vaccinations. With advice from her pediatrician, the in-house adverse reactions division of our HMO (Kaiser), and the CDC, she does not receive vaccinations. When she was 3 I took her in for an ear infection and the on call doctor that saw her provoked a big fight with me over her lack of vaccination history. He called me irresponsible and unconscionable, and told me I was an unfit parent. At first I tried to talk to him, requesting that he review her history. When he refused, I lost my temper and let him have it. A really nasty five minutes later I informed him that he was too incompetent to see my daughter and that I would be filing a complaint with the HMO and the medical board. This actually went through an in-depth review at Kaiser and he incurred disciplinary action. He is no longer a practising pediatrician. You have to be informed, tough, and able to stand your ground when dealing with these people. They are not used to being argued with.

  • susan

    Good info. Thanks for providing it!

  • becky

    Vaccine injury is real. It’s so sad that people can have no compassion for others who completely trusted their doctors and now have to care for an injured child. I challenge you to open your heart and mind. http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/index.html

  • susan

    Excellent point Amanda! My daughter’s seizures occurred after the DTaP, pneumoncoccal, and polio. We didn’t even get to the MMR! And now I have to worry about her being given the Gardasil shot at school without my knowledge or permission. Unbelievable.

  • susan

    It is sad what happened to Dr. Wakefield’s reputation but….at least he can be credited with opening the eyes of the the world to the bullshit of our current vaccination schedule.

  • Tao Woman

    no pediatrician in the city of Jacksonville, FL will see a child who is not vaccinated – we had nurses roll their eyes – chastise our nanny (like she had anything to do with it) and I ended up in a screaming match with a pediatrician who was trying to force a whooping cough vaccine on our son when 3 months later it came out that the vaccine does not last or work…………I hate to feel like I’m smarter than my doctor

  • StuG5

    It’s not about luck, it’s about being smart with me and family’s healthcare. I’d rather take the very small risk of a negative reaction from a vaccine (which is true if any and all medical therapies/treatments) than contract a much more deadly disease like meningitis c or hepatitis b.

  • MomR

    I personally don’t care if you do or don’t vaccinate your children. Just a thought, if you do not vaccinate your children when they grow up and want to travel to foreign countries they may not be able to with out getting all the make up shots. My youngest daughter could not finish her baby shots and had to have them when she was older to be able to travel. Not saying you have to do it now, just a thought.

  • MomR

    I sure hope your dog is not a carrier, it is possible to carry and not have any health issues.

  • HF

    As a mother I was bullied and told that my child WOULD DIE absolutely if I did not vaccinate on the schedule. I however was not out right refusing to vaccinate I just wanted to do them one at a time. At a one month a nurse bullied her way into giving my precious son 6 or more vaccinations without really telling me what was going on. My calm happy baby became a crying miserable hurting baby. I KNEW it was the vaccinations. SO I said one at a time and he literally cornered me and said that my son would die period if I did not vaccinate on time on his schedule. I told him no vaccines at all and left the office crying.

  • Carol Sterritt-Frost

    In any event, the child had a fever. It should be Standard Operating Procedure that the issue of vaccinating a child with a fever wouldn’t even come up. There are hundreds of animal study citations that show that sick animals go on to have cancer after being vaccinated in less than a healthy state. Any decent vetanerian will tell their client that they can’t and don’t vaccinate sick kittens or sick dogs. So why should medial personnel working with human beings go off on a tangent about vaccinating a sick child!

  • Carol Sterritt-Frost

    How could your son die if not vaccinated on schedule? In the 1950’s, most of us Baby Boomers toddlers and children weren’t vaccinated at all, until the polio shot was released to the market. I was four or five before I even got that vaccine, and it was my first. If you want me to, I’d be glad to write the doofus a letter, telling him how ignorant and ill informed he is.

  • Carol Sterritt-Frost

    Children are better off being vaccinated after the age of two. Think about it – the polio vaccine was the very first vaccination most of us Baby Boomers received. That whole generation of kids has remained healthier and had far less autism, less ADD, less paralysis, SIDS and acknowledged death to vaccine complications etc. We also scored higher on SAT’s and ACT’s. Experts will tellyou they have had to “dum,b down” the college entrance tests, due to the fact that so many kids today are learning disabled. ***** In today’s world, the hepatitis vaccine is now delivered into a newborn’s system, before the child is three days old. And these poor infants develop migraines, paralysis, and even death as a result. All this- although hepatitis is a disease caused by involvement with dirty needles and unsafe sex, which infants certainly are not exposed to. (Google Michael Belkin to learn more about hep and infants and vaccines.)

  • Be sensible.

    As an emergency veterinary surgeon I don’t give vaccines. I also speak from a UK perspective. Nobody ever told you that vaccines were 100% safe, because that would be imbecilic. What they did tell you (or should) is the use of vaccines dramatically reduces clinical signs of disease, shortens transmission times, and therefore has a net reductive capacity on that disease in the wider population as long as a large enough proportion of the populous obtains such a vaccine (times etc. for individual vaccines will of course vary). Yes some adjuvants can be mutogenic, yes some live vaccines can have highly unusual and rare adverse events.

    A heart surgeon will happily tell you to take aspirin if you believe you are having a heart attack. He does this because the benefits outweigh the risks several thousand times. Does he care that 1/1000 may suffer bleeding problems? That this may make embolectomy more dangerous? Not really. Because on balance it is the safer thing to do, and for the largest number of people represents the best risk reduction.

    Before citing studies, please read and understand scientific literature correctly, and ensure you can work through all the data in an unbiased way (called a meta-analysis). To do this you will need to train as an epidemiologist. To have a basic understanding and avoid making the mistakes commonly made by internet trawlers you will at least need to have a highly scientific and logical mind, with the ability to read between the lines and find the unspecified bias behind the paper.

    It is your right to choose. But choose for the right reasons, based on real science. Not jibberish.

  • Barb

    With all due respect, we’re brainwashed to accept it without question but Pasteur’s germ theory is a scam that does not follow scientific guidelines to prove it’s validity, in fact it’s quite easy to disprove via simple logic and the “scientific method” taught in elementary school.

  • Barbara Ford

    So the real problem is finding something that constitutes “real science” as it seems real science isn’t needed or used when it comes to vaccines. All you have to do is follow the $$$$$ trail and you find out the real truth about vaccines. I have found that vaccine safety proponents have a better grasp of scientific information than the medical community does.

  • Barbara Ford

    Susan, so glad you stood your ground. It’s sad that conventional medicine people are so brainwashed and leave their critical thinking skills at the door.

  • Barbara Ford

    You may not have died, but don’t discount residual effects as you get older. Vaccines will eventually come back to bite ya, especially because they eventually compromise your immune system. Tick tock, tick tock.

  • Meredith

    First, I’d like to thank this keepers of this website for allowing people to comment without having to go through the rigors of registering.

    “While insensitive and bad form, I don’t agree with some parents who are calling for this nurse to be fired. This nurse should have the opportunity to correct her mistake and behavior. I believe her actions are an expression of the system that taught her, and we should look at this more closely.”

    The author of this story is a very decent, honorable person to say this. If this nurse had given me this note, she would be in the ER.

    I think this nurse should pick another occupation. No person who has to deal with the public this closely should be allowed to get away with this. If her superiors support this type of behavior then perhaps a lawsuit is in order.

    At the very least, she should be disciplined for this and made to apologize.

  • Meredith

    Where did this happen? Someone should start a list of those doctors who practice this type of ‘Mengele’ medicine. Parents need to be warned so they don’t go through the same thing.

    I feel terrible that this woman assaulted your baby this way. You should never go back again.

    Find a doctor you KNOW won’t pressure you so the first one doesn’t try to retaliate by calling child services, etc.

  • Meredith

    I’m glad you won that match. You are smarter than the eugenists who won’t vaccinate their own children.

    Your baby is so very fortunate to have a mother lion like you.

  • Thank you for the kind words.

    According to a recent news interview, the nurse was suspended.

  • Heather

    What about the study done in Europe comparing thousands of children who were vaccinated against thousands who weren’t? It was found that the vaccinated ones had higher rates of serious illness before adulthood, while the unvaccinated ones did not.

  • Roxanne

    A number of assumptions are made in this comment:
    Why do you assume that there is a “very small risk of a negative reaction” when it has been acknowledged by
    officialdom that only 1-10% of vaccine adverse events
    gets recorded, and more troubling vaccines are not tested
    for carcinogenic, mutagenic potential (read the monographs) nor tracked long-term for auto-immune disease etc.?
    Why do you assume that without vaccination you are
    a vulnerable sitting duck for diseases such as meningitis? Can you site any study comparing meningitis rates in vaccinated versus fully unvaccinated populations? Are you aware that vaccine adverse events have included getting meningitis from vaccination?

  • Roxanne

    Just a few vaccine criticisms (in this case re.
    the Hep B Vaccine) since I sense you aren’t aware
    of the scope of serious damage it can cause:
    “I have been honoured by the National Institutes of Health for my pioneering work in vaccine development …As I’ve been invited to speak to this distinguished subcommittee, it is important to discuss my experience with the clearly apparent severe adverse effects of the Hep B vaccine…Two individuals working in my lab were required to take the Hep B vaccine. Both were completely healthy and very active before this vaccine and now suffer severe debilitating side effects from the vaccine. My brother Dr. Bohn Dunbar developed seriously chronic joint and muscle pain, fatigue and multiple sclerosis-like symptoms… and has been further diagnosed with POTS (an autoimmune, cardiovascular and neurological problem) and subsequently, with chronic inflammation, demyelinating polyneuropathy. His problem has been attributed to the Hep B vaccine by over a dozen different specialists around the United States… He’s now been rated permanently and totally impaired at greater than 90%. His health care has already cost the state of Texan about a half million dollars… My other student went partially blind following her first booster injection, a medical condition that was markedly exacerbated by her second booster that resulted in her hospitalization…I have been in contact with numerous physicians and research scientists from several countries who have independently described identical serious reactions to the vaccine in thousands…Their observations for the most part have been denied or ignored by the public health systems… I’ve been contacted personally by hundreds of individuals, including parents, who have reported deaths , severe health problems and lifelong disabilities resulting in major medical costs following the administration of this vaccine.”

    Bonnie Dunbar PhD, Prof. of Deptment Of Cell Biology, Baylor College of Medicine, Baylor, Texas
    (worked in vaccine development for over twenty-five years)

    “Genetically engineered Hepatitis B vaccines contain polypeptide sequences that are present in human neurologic tissues such as myelin, and that by a mechanism called molecular mimicry, these polypeptides can act as autoantigens which can induce autoimmune demyelinating disease of the brain such as Multiple Sclerosis…. One wonders how the CDC continues to reassure the public about the safety of the Hepatitis B vaccine when they must be aware of thousands of reports to the Vaccine Adverse Reporting System following vaccination including Multiple Sclerosis, Guillan Barre, and autoimmune arthritis; and when there are at least twenty articles in peer reviewed journals medical literature of diseases such as MS and optic neuritis that occurred after Hep. B Vaccanation.”
    ‘A Mortatorium Should Be Placed on This Experiment’, Burton Waisbren MD, FACP, Cell Biologist, Infectious Disease Specialist

  • Anastasia

    In a book written by a veterinarian Dr. Patricia Jordan who researched it. Hope you take the shot

  • Roxanne

    “Studies are increasingly pointing to the conclusion that vaccines represent a dangerous assault to the immune system leading to autoimmune diseases like Multiple Sclerosis, Lupus, Juvenile Onset Diabetes, Fibromyalgia, and Cystic Fibrosis as well as previously rare disorders like brain cancer, SIDS, childhood leukemia, autism and asthma.”
    Rona Zoltan MD, ‘Natural Alternatives to Vaccination’

    “There are multiple articles in the medical literature demonstrating how chronic illnesses like allergies, asthma, eczema, diabetes mellitus, lupus, multiple sclerosis, inflammatory bowel disease, ADD,/ADHD and autism all exhibit skewed production and over-activity of the TH2 arm of the immune system…”
    Lawrence B. Palevsky MD, FAACP, Pediatrician, ‘Aluminum and Vaccine Ingredients: What do we know? What don’t we know?’

    “Immunization programs against flu, measles polio etc. may actually be seeding humans with RNA to form pro-viruses which under proper conditions become activated and cause a variety of diseases including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, lupus erythematosus, Parkinson’s disease and cancer… Spare me this ‘medical miracle’!”
    Dr. Robert W. Simpson, Professor of Virology, Rutgers University

    “Since the routine vaccines introduce live viruses and other highly antigenic material into the blood, it is difficult to escape the conclusion that a significant harvest of autoimmune diseases will automatically result.”
    Richard Moscowitz MD, ‘The Case against Immunizations’

    “…immunization against relatively harmless childhood diseases may be responsible for the dramatic increase in autoimmune diseases…such as cancer, leukemia, rheumatoid arthritis, M.S. Lou Gehrig’s disease (ALS), lupus erythematosus and Gullian-Barre.”
    Robert S. Mendelsohn MD, Professor of Pediatrics, University of Illinios, ‘The Medical Time Bomb of Immunization Against Disease’

  • donnaRN

    My siblings and I all had measles, mumps and chicken pox; some also had whooping cough. We didn’t die. Not sure what point you are trying to make. Check it out; today’s children have more health problems than any other generation…… more allergies, more asthma, more cognitive disorders, more diabetes…… the list goes on……… I am not against all vaccines, but do salute these parents who are trying their best to avoid a vaccine injury for a precious, innocent child from a “one size fits all” and over- zealous vaccine schedule. At what point do you think one more vaccine is too many?

  • Free People

    This is unbelievable. You sign the admission form and they have permission to do whatever they want, thereby taking full advantage of a sick person who probably cannot even think straight because of their condition.

    I guess the thing to do before signing, is to place in BOLD LETTERS “NO VACCINES PERMITTED, UNDER PENALTY OF LAWSUIT”!!!

    I noticed my old Vet did this to one of my cats, when I had to pay the bill and noticed the ‘vaccine’ on it, without my consent. I let him have an earful, informing him that I was not there to vaccinate my ‘sick’ cat!!! They flagged my cat files (4) with red NO VACCINES tags for future visits, of which I never went back anyway. Fired! I have a Holistic Vet now who of course, does NOT vaccinate.

    Recent article in Natural News by a Holistic Vet claims the Vet Doctor Manuals state cats should NOT be vaccinated, but the money is too good, and the Vets continue to do it. Hence, we now have many three legged cats (cancer, cut off the leg), and sick cats getting all kinds of pHARMa. It’s a business for Pete’s sake!

  • Roxanne

    1-Wakefield’s original work did not purport to “link MMR to autism” but rather suggested “further examinations are needed to examine this syndrome and its possible relation to this vaccine” …2 – It was Brian Deer who violated journalistic standards and instigated the smear campaign against Wakefield in which the media, medical bodies etc. who are part of the revolving door with pharmaceutical interests, have repeatedly misrepresented his work …3 Wakefield’s original findings have been replicated by a number of studies internationally since then… 4- Additionally, his was not the first/only study/hearing to suggest that vaccination may play a role in autism….(below)

    Oleske, J. “Elevated rubeola [measles] titers in autistic children.” Abstract presented by D. Zecca and Dr. Graffino at an NIH meeting (September 23, 1997). As quoted by Richard Gallup in “Autism and autoimmunity.” http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/18/14/10.html April 15, 2002.

    Fudenberg, H.H. “Dialysable lymphocyte extract (DlyE) in infantile onset autism: a pilot study.” Biotherapy 1996; 9:143-147.

    Gupta, S. “Immunology and immunologic treatment of autism.” Proceedings of the National Autism Association, Chicago 1996: 455-460.

    Yazbak, F.E. “Autism: Is there a vaccine connection? Part I. Vaccination after delivery.” 1999. Part I

    Yazbak, F.E. “Autism: Is there a vaccine connection? Part II. Vaccination around pregnancy.” 1999. Part II

    Yazbak, F.E. “Autism: Is there a vaccine connection? Part III. Vaccination around pregnancy, the sequel.” 2000. Part III

    “Autism: Present Challenges, Future Needs — Why the Increased Rates?” Government Reform Committee Hearing, Washington, DC. (April 6, 2000.)

    Bernard, S., et al. “Autism: a novel form of mercury poisoning,” (July 2000). Submitted to the Government Reform Committee Hearing, Washington, DC. (July 18, 2000.) http://www.house.gov/reform/healthcare/mercury_paper.htm

    “Autism: Why the Increased Rates? A One-Year Update.” Government Reform Committee Hearing, Washington, DC. (April 25-26, 2001.)

    “The Autism Epidemic: Is the NIH and CDC Response Adequate?” Government Reform Committee Hearing, Washington, DC. (April 18, 2002.)

    “The Status of Research into Vaccine Safety and Autism.” Government Reform Committee Hearing, Washington, DC. (June 19, 2002.)

    Kawashima, K., et al. “Detection and sequencing of measles virus from peripheral mononuclear cells from patients with inflammatory bowel disease and autism.” Digestive Diseases and Sciences (April 2000); 45:723-729.

    Reuters Medical News. “Measles persistence confirmed in some patients with IBD, autistic enterocolitis.” (June 20, 2000). http://www.id.medscape.com/reuters/prof/2000/ 06/06.20/20000620scie001.html

    Kiln MR, “Autism, inflammatory bowel disease, and MMR vaccine.” Lancet 1998 May 2;351(9112):1358.

    Selway, “MMR vaccination and autism 1998. Medical practitioners need to give more than reassurance.” BMJ 1998 Jun 13;316(7147):1824.

    Nicoll A, Elliman D, Ross E, “MMR vaccination and autism 1998,” MJ 1998 Mar 7;316(7133):715-716.

    Lindley K J, Milla PJ, “Autism, inflammatory bowel disease, and MMR vaccine.”Lancet 1998 Mar 21;351(9106):907-908.

    Bedford H, et al, “Autism, inflammatory bowel disease, and MMR vaccine.” Lancet 1998 Mar 21;351(9106):907.

    Vijendra K. Singh, Sheren X. Lin, and Victor C. Yang, “Serological Association of Measles Virus and Human Herpesvirus-6 with Brain Autoantibodies in Autism,” Clinical Immunology and Immunopathology, Oct 1998, Vol. 89, No. 1, p 105-108.

  • Free People

    -1 Amazing how much you don’t know…”The whole ‘Vaccines cause horrible diseases’ thing all stem from an incident in the early 2000s” ? You’re serious? Here’s a little history for you.

    1909 New York Press, January 26, 1909 publishes a report by W.B. Clark which states, “Cancer was practically unknown until cowpox vaccination began to be introduced. I have seen 200 cases of cancer, and I never saw a case of cancer in an un-vaccinated person”. Scientific evidence begins to mount that where human lymph is employed in a vaccine, syphilis, leprosy and TB soon follow. Where calf lymph is employed in the creation of a vaccine, TB and cancer soon follow.
    (Cancer and Vaccination by Esculapius).

    1918 The Great Influenza Epidemic attributed to widespread use of vaccines that killed up to 100 million people.

    1933: Danish researcher Thorvald Madsen discovers the Pertusssis vaccines ability to kill infants without warning (SIDS). He reports that two babies vaccinated immediately after birth died in a few minutes.

    1936 Pertussis vaccine introduced in the United States. Autism begins to appear in children shortly thereafter.

    1946: Werne and Garrow describe the deaths of identical twins within 24 hours of their second Pertussis shot.

    1947: Matthew Brody at the Brooklyn Hospital gives detailed descriptions of two cases of brain damage leading to death in children receiving Pertussis shots.

    http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/2008/02/death-by-vaccine.html

  • Roxanne

    Sorry, the smallpox Trojan horse vaccine saviour myth is
    just that as 1- like other infectious diseases mortality from
    smallpox started to plummet before vaccination as sanitation, living standards etc. improved … 2- the worst outbreaks of smallpox occurred when vaccination was mandated such as the devastating epidemics of smallpox in the Philippines in the 1910’s…3 – the case can be made that in fact, smallpox would have dwindled much sooner had it not been for mandatory vaccination campaigns. I suggest you read Dr. Eleanor McBeans remarkable records, documents, historical accounts etc. re. the damage that was caused by the smallpox vaccine in
    ‘The Poisoned Needle’ which can be accessed on line
    at http://www.whale.to
    Additionally, a few of many voices censored from
    the real medical history…
    “There is no question but that perfect sanitation has almost obliterated this disease (smallpox) and sooner or later will dispose of it entirely. Of course when that time comes, in all probability the credit will be given to vaccination.”
    John Tilden MD (1851-1940)

    “In the Cologne epidemic of 1870, 173 vaccinated persons were attacked before the first unvaccinated one. In Liegnite in 1871, the first unvaccinated to suffer was 225th on the list.” William T. Collins MD, MRCS 1883

    “How is it that smallpox is five times as likely to be fatal in the vaccinated as in the unvaccinated? How is it that in some of our most highly vaccinated towns, smallpox is rife whilst in some of our most poorly vaccinated towns such as Leicester, it is almost unknown? How is it that something like 80% of the cases admitted into the Metropolitan Board Smallpox Hospital have been vaccinated, whilst only 20% have not been vaccinated.” Dr. L. Parry, British Medical Journal, 1/21/28
    “Since the passing of the Compulsory Vaccination Act in (Britain) 1853 we have had no less than three distinct epidemics. In 1857-9. We had more than 14,000 deaths from small pox. In the 1863-5 epidemic the deaths increased to 20,000 and in the 1871-2 they totaled up to 44,800.” Walter Hadwen MD, MRCS LRCP, LSA

  • Roxanne

    The real scandal concerning the Dr. Wakefield – MMR –
    Autism story are the false allegations slung against him, instigated, “reported” and judged by the very same interests who stood to loose millions should MMR policies come under an investigative microscope…. The studies “debunking” a vaccine – autism link have been shown to been poorly designed, with conflicts of interest etc… Particularly, in question is Paul Thorsen’s (who has been indicted on multiple charges) research…. Furthermore, I’d suggest that the hackneyed renewed attacks on Wakefield in 2011 were a pre-emptive attempt to dissuade scientific journals from publishing the final devastating results of ground breaking research conducted by scientists from the Universities of Pittsburgh, Washington, and Kentucky that for the first time looked at the cumulative affects of the entire U.S. childhood vaccine schedule comparing vaccinated vs. unvaccinated primates over a number of years, yielding devastating results….However, the ONUS
    should not be on those concerned about vaccines to
    prove vaccines cause autism but for vaccine proponents
    to prove safety… Please present one official study looking at the cumulative affect of the ENTIRE vaccine schedule
    and comparing autism etc. rates in the vaccinated versus
    unvaccinated?

  • Roxanne

    Good for you for wanting to learn more… For starters, I would strongly suggest you buy the book ‘The Vaccine Safety Manual’which cites over 1,000 studies by vaccine researcher Neil Miller. Also,it is imperative to wake up to historical deceptions re. vaccine “heroics”…read the real history re. smallpox and polio at http://www.thinktwice.com, get Dr. Suzanne Humpries latest book on such http://www.suzannehumphries.net, Also, a mindboggling history is available online if you google ‘The Poisoned Needle’ by Dr. Eleanor McBean available at http://www.whale.to

  • Roxanne

    I suggest giving the parents a list of studies linking vaccines to VIDS such
    as the Hep B list at the studies link at http://www.thinktwice.com. Most parents
    have no idea how wide ranging vaccine injury is and never connect the dots
    with things such as visual or hearing damage. Also, do up a list of ingredients, and use quotes from doctors raising the issues of VIDS as I did
    on an earlier thread with boogy? something. Keep up the good work… Sadly, most have to experience vaccine injury firsthand to wake up the
    vaccine mass deception.

  • Roxanne

    Good for you, Kc Craft…. Hold your ground…The biggest gift you can give your new baby is authentic, natural immunity where the blood brain barrier has not been violated by the toxic synergy of vaccination giving rise to a whole slew of conditions ranging from SIDS, allergies, asthma, ear infections, tonsillitis, learning problems,
    hearing and visual deficits, autism, diabetes etc…. It’s not that vaccine-free children never have any of the above but repeatedly have been shown to have significantly less health problems and are better able to cope with whatever challenges come their way. You
    may also want to get a copy of the book ‘Vaccine Free…’ by
    Andreas Bachmair.

  • NE914

    Wow, what an ordeal. You need someone who can stand up and advocate for you. It’s appalling how the medical system
    is literally stealing your health from you! How old is your son
    now and did they intimidate you into vaccinating him?

  • Sorry to read that you have been so entirely mislead. Small pox vaccine created more small pox than it prevented; and yes that is how badly you and of course a large percentage of the total population have been intentionally misinformed. The real history shows something far different than what such as the CDC and the WHO have presented with. Also, just look for the proof of their claims; as their official statements essentially comprise most if not all the anecdotal proof that they have. Correlation equals causation in their view, unless you are talking about the vaccine harm done, and then no amount of correlation is enough to ever equal causation.

    HISTORICAL MANIPULATION, SMALLPOX, AND POLIO
    http://www.vaccinesuncensored.org/history.php

    The polio vaccine: a critical assessment of its arcane history, efficacy, and long-term health-related consequences
    http://www.thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf

    The real story of the covered up failure of the small pox vaccine. History Repeats Itself: Lessons Vaccinators Refuse to Learn, by Jennifer Craig, PhD
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/04/17/history-repeats-itself-lessons-the-vaccinationists-refuse-to-learn-by-jennifer-craig-phd/

    Smallpox Vaccine: Origins of Vaccine Madness
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2010/02/26/smallpox-vaccine-origins-of-vaccine-madness/

    Smoke, Mirrors, and the “Disappearance” Of Polio, by Suzanne Humphries, MD
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2011/11/17/smoke-mirrors-and-the-disappearance-of-polio/

    THE POISONED NEEDLE
    Suppressed Facts About Vaccination
    By Eleanor McBean,1957
    http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html

    Decline of Diseases Prior to Available Vaccine Graphs
    http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/#Mumps_Eng_Wales

    Link Index for Graphs – A quick way to see Historical Trends
    http://www.vaclib.org/links/graphs.htm

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign
    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

  • The studies the CDC promotes only involve epidemiological studies funded by the CDC/AAP, and other pharma connections. Those studies only looked at one vaccine, (the MMR), and one single vaccine ingredient, mercury (Thimerosal). No studies were done on such as aluminum adjuvants, multiple vaccines, and definitely no study was ever done on regarding vaccinated verses entirely unvaccinated health outcomes.

    So, what we have here is a system that presents with that they have looked at all the science and concluded that vaccines cause nothing; while the truth is that they actually did not even scratch the surface of what they need to look at with scientific studies. Where are their physiologically based studies done on an actual human being, and or lab animal? They have none, while at the same time disregarding a bulwark of existing and very damning science in regard to the harm done by vaccines; in fact that study clearly more harm than good being done by vaccines.

    You can not in any honesty claim to that severe and damaging vaccine reactions are in and of the chances of only one in a million, and then sit on your duff like the CDC has done, and simply look no further.

    The CDC Claimed To Epidemiological Safety Studies – Verses – The Independent Physiological Vaccine Safety Science
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-cdc-claimed-to-epidemiological-safety-studies-ndash-verses-ndash-the-independent-physiological-vaccine-safety-science.html

    Glutathione, Tylenol, Vaccine Adverse Reactions, and ASD
    http://www.vacfacts.info/glutathione-tylenol-vaccine-adverse-reactions-and-asd.html

    MTHFR-Genetics, Autism, and Disease
    http://www.vacfacts.info/mthfr-genetics-autism-and-disease.html

  • derekwardlies

    my son is a 26 yr old adult now and yes,they intimidated me .i was a scared young mother and my parents and in laws were all about blind faith in authority figures .my son has anger and emotional issues and very obvious physical twitches.i really wish i knew where to find such an advocate.i really need help.

  • 60 Things that Can Go Terribly Wrong with Hepatitis B Vaccination
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/07/07/60-things-that-can-go-terribly-wrong-with-hepatitis-b-vaccination.aspx

    The Hepatitis B Vaccine Scam
    http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/83-the-hepatitis-b-vaccine-scam.html

    Inflammation-related effects of adjuvant influenza A vaccination on platelet activation and cardiac autonomic function.

    CONCLUSIONS: Together with an inflammatory reaction, influenza A vaccine induced platelet activation and sympathovagal imbalance towards adrenergic predominance. Significant correlations were found between CRP levels and HRV parameters, suggesting a pathophysiological link between inflammation and cardiac autonomic regulation. The vaccine-related platelet activation and cardiac autonomic dysfunction may transiently increase the risk of cardiovascular events.

    © 2010 The Association for the Publication of the Journal of Internal Medicine.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20964738/

    Inflammation-related effects of adjuvant influenza A vaccination on platelet activation and cardiac autonomic function.

    Studies Find Flu Shots Can Harm Your Heart, Infant And Fetus

    Over 200 viruses cause influenza and influenza-like illness which produce the same symptoms (fever, headache, aches and pains, cough and runny noses). Without laboratory tests, doctors cannot tell the two illnesses apart. Both last for days and rarely lead to death or serious illness. At best, vaccines might be effective against only Influenza A and B, which represent about 10% of all circulating viruses.” (Source: Cochrane Summaries).

    Read more: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/studies-find-flu-shots-can-harm-your-heart-infant-and-fetus

    Flu vaccines don’t work and they injure far too many people
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5qZ7-mJLWg

    Vaccine Shedding. You will never look at vaccinated children the same again.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKSeiAs_A4w

    THE DILEMMA OF VACCINE-INDUCED DISEASE AND UNVACCINATED CHILDREN
    http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccine-Shedding

    Deadly Vaccines – Contaminated with Mycoplasma
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slwtw06F1hE

    Vaccine Contamination
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-contamination.html

    Aren’t the vaccine saviors of humanity great? Continue to praise these snake oil salesman, and their toxic vaccine promoting cult!

  • Glutathione, Tylenol, Vaccine Adverse Reactions, and ASD
    http://www.vacfacts.info/glutathione-tylenol-vaccine-adverse-reactions-and-asd.html

    How Vaccines Harm Brain Development
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QBcMYqlaDs

  • Since 1988, a little over 3000 claims have been settled at the federal vaccine court, and with over 9000 rejected. What would be the figures, if all vaccine harm claims had been filed, and paid a settlement? Parents do not file fraudulent claims, as they know what happened.

    Data & Statistics
    http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/data.html

    Medical journals report that pharmaceutical-based medicine is one of the leading causes of death & injury in developed countries.
    http://www.medicinekillsmillions.com/

  • DVM

    In my grandchild’s medical records from Dartmouth-Hitchcock Hospital, she is labeled as having “vaccine insufficiency”. This label is a direct result of what the doctors are being taught (by the pharma industry) in medical school and in practice. It is very disturbing to me that there are no long term studies on safety and efficacy of vaccines and I’m pretty sure there never will be. Even in the veterinary community where there is a frightening number of “acquired” neurological diseases in dogs and cats, they never question whether the cause could be vaccines. You know, if you don’t look for a cause, you can continue to say vaccines are blameless.

  • lja_11

    http://www.amazon.com/Raise-Healthy-Child-Spite-Doctor/dp/0345342763
    My children are all grown now. My oldest is 26 and had the typical vaccines. Along came number 2, and he had vaccines. all the while I had been researching more and more. Convincing my husband was the hardest part. The next two children received no vaccines at all. In fact the only time we went to a pediatrician after my oldest turned two was for circumcision. They rarely were sick and when they were I focused on building up their own immune system rather than suppressing it with prescription drugs. Anyway the book above is a treasure chest of wisdom and I highly recommend it as a primer.

  • St_Ann

    I often think of a witty response after a conversation has taken place…so instead I carry a few printed documents in my purse that I can quote. One of them is a fact sheet for MMR-II vaccine by Merck – it shows potential adverse reactions, the last one being “death”. You can get it here:

    http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf

    Another document I carry is a report by Thomas Verstraeten, MD with CDC who wrote in 1999 that a percentage of babies exposed to mercury in vaccines had a risk of developing autism, sleep disorders and speech disorders. This was an official government report, not a conspiracy theory. You can get it here:

    http://www.activistpost.com/2013/10/vaccine-dangers-bombshell-admissions.html

    If all this falls on deaf ears, I simply state that it’s against my religion. They use tissue from aborted human fetuses to produce vaccines. “Thou shalt not kill.” No one has ever ridiculed God in my face.

  • WhoCares000009

    If immunizations are so ineffective, then why during the San Diego measles outbreak of 2008 were all 12 infected patients un-vaccinated? Measles is highly contagious, but not a single vaccinated child was infected and 12 un-vaccinated children were. Sure, totally ineffective.

    http://www.healio.com/pediatrics/vaccine-preventable-diseases/news/print/infectious-diseases-in-children/%7Bce1671ab-4247-4dc7-8f4a-a7733b1cc5ac%7D/san-diego-measles-outbreak-highlights-consequences-of-intentional-undervaccination

    How about the 53% increase in pertussis cases in states where vaccination exemptions are easily obtained and therefore shown to be more common. I’m sure this is just a coincidence.

    From 2001 through 2004, states that permitted personal belief exemptions had higher nonmedical exemption rates than states that offered only religious exemptions, and states that easily granted exemptions had higher nonmedical exemption rates in 2002 through 2003 compared with states with medium and difficult exemption processes. The average exemption rate increased an average of 6 percent per year from 1991 to 2004 among states that offered personal belief exemptions. In states that easily granted exemptions, the rate increased 5 percent per year from 1991 to 2004. No statistically significant change was seen in states that offered only religious exemptions or that had medium and difficult exemption processes. However, the researchers also found that easier granting of exemptions was associated with a 53 percent increased incidence of pertussis, and the availability of personal belief exemptions was associated with a 48 percent increased incidence.

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/53876.php

    If you were to look at trends for vaccine preventable diseases, you would find that they each tend to drop off shortly after a vaccine is licensed. I’m sure this is just another coincidence though.

    http://www.vaccines.gov/images/measles.jpg

    Measles vaccine was licensed in 1962, and as you can see, that’s when the number of cases started to decline. (Measles didn’t completely disappear after 1993; there have just been too few cases to show up on this graph.)

    If the drop in disease were due to hygiene and sanitation, you would expect all diseases to start going away at about the same time. But if you were to look at the graph for polio, for example, you would see the number of cases start to drop around 1955 – the year the first polio vaccine was licensed. If you look at the graph for Hib, the number drops around 1990, for pneumococcal disease around 2000 — corresponding to the introduction of vaccines for those diseases.

    http://www.vaccines.gov/basics/effectiveness/

  • WhoCares000009

    @disqus_hEc1AaeDrF:disqus “How do you know this, doctor, when you don’t do ANY studies on the links?”

    Studies have been conducted by various institutions around the globe, and published in peer-reviewed journals, none of which could find evidence linking MMR or Thimerosal to Autism Spectrum Disorders. If this is a conspiracy, it is a BIG one.

    Studies have been conducted at various institutions around the globe, none of which could find evidence linking MMR or Thimerosal to Autism Spectrum Disorders. If this is a conspiracy, it is a BIG one.

    No effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a total population study.
    Honda H, Shimizu Y, Rutter M.
    Source

    Yokohama Rehabilitation Center, Yokohama, Japan.

    Abstract
    BACKGROUND:

    A causal relationship between the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine and occurrence of autism spectrum disorders (ASD) has been claimed, based on an increase in ASD in the USA and the UK after introduction of the MMR vaccine. However, the possibility that this increase is coincidental has not been eliminated. The unique circumstances of a Japanese MMR vaccination program provide an opportunity for comparison of ASD incidence before and after termination of the program.
    METHODS:

    This study examined cumulative incidence of ASD up to age seven for children born from 1988 to 1996 in Kohoku Ward (population approximately 300,000), Yokohama, Japan. ASD cases included all cases of pervasive developmental disorders according to ICD-10 guidelines.
    RESULTS:

    The MMR vaccination rate in the city of Yokohama declined significantly in the birth cohorts of years 1988 through 1992, and not a single vaccination was administered in 1993 or thereafter. In contrast, cumulative incidence of ASD up to age seven increased significantly in the birth cohorts of years 1988 through 1996 and most notably rose dramatically beginning with the birth cohort of 1993.
    CONCLUSIONS:

    The significance of this finding is that MMR vaccination is most unlikely to be a main cause of ASD, that it cannot explain the rise over time in the incidence of ASD, and that withdrawal of MMR in countries where it is still being used cannot be expected to lead to a reduction in the incidence of ASD.

    Association between thimerosal-containing vaccine and autism.
    Hviid A, Stellfeld M, Wohlfahrt J, Melbye M.
    Source

    Danish Epidemiology Science Centre, Department of Epidemiology Research, Statens Serum Institut, Copenhagen, Denmark.

    RESULTS:

    During 2 986 654 person-years, we identified 440 autism cases and 787 cases of other autistic-spectrum disorders. The risk of autism and other autistic-spectrum disorders did not differ significantly between children vaccinated with thimerosal-containing vaccine and children vaccinated with thimerosal-free vaccine (RR, 0.85 [95% confidence interval [CI], 0.60-1.20] for autism; RR, 1.12 [95% CI, 0.88-1.43] for other autistic-spectrum disorders). Furthermore, we found no evidence of a dose-response association (increase in RR per 25 microg of ethylmercury, 0.98 [95% CI, 0.90-1.06] for autism and 1.03 [95% CI, 0.98-1.09] for other autistic-spectrum disorders).
    CONCLUSION:

    The results do not support a causal relationship between childhood vaccination with thimerosal-containing vaccines and development of autistic-spectrum disorders.

    MMR-vaccine and regression in autism spectrum disorders: negative results presented from Japan.
    Uchiyama T, Kurosawa M, Inaba Y.
    Source

    Department of Human Welfare, Otsuma Women’s University, 2-7-1, Karakida, Tama-city, Tokyo, 206-8540, Japan.

    Abstract

    It has been suggested that the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR) is a cause of regressive autism. As MMR was used in Japan only between 1989 and 1993, this time period affords a natural experiment to examine this hypothesis. Data on 904 patients with autism spectrum disorders (ASD) were analyzed. During the period of MMR usage no significant difference was found in the incidence of regression between MMR-vaccinated children and non-vaccinated children. Among the proportion and incidence of regression across the three MMR-program-related periods (before, during and after MMR usage), no significant difference was found between those who had received MMR and those who had not. Moreover, the incidence of regression did not change significantly across the three periods.

    Absence of detectable measles virus genome sequence in blood of autistic children who have had their MMR vaccination during the routine childhood immunization schedule of UK.
    Afzal MA, Ozoemena LC, O’Hare A, Kidger KA, Bentley ML, Minor PD.
    Source

    Division of Virology, National Institute for Biological Standards and Control, South Mimms, Potters Bar, Hertfordshire, United Kingdom.

    Abstract

    Leukocyte preparations from children with documented evidence of MMR vaccination and confirmed diagnosis of autism were examined by several assays designed to target multiple regions of the measles virus genome sequence. No sample was found positive by any method. The assays applied were highly sensitive, specific and robust in nature, and were based on the amplification of measles virus RNA transcripts by real-time quantitative RT-PCR (QRT-PCR) as well as by conventional RT-PCR-nested PCR. The assays applied were potentially able to detect measles virus RNA down to single figure copy numbers per reaction. The amount of total nucleic acid extract of leukocytes subjected to various measles virus-specific investigations was several fold higher than minimally required of a sample where measles virus persistence is well documented. This study failed to substantiate reports of the persistence of measles virus in autistic children with development regression.

    Autism and measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine: no epidemiological evidence for a causal association.
    Taylor B, Miller E, Farrington CP, Petropoulos MC, Favot-Mayaud I, Li J, Waight PA.
    Source

    Department of Community Child Health, Royal Free and University College Medical School, University College London, UK.

    Abstract
    BACKGROUND:

    We undertook an epidemiological study to investigate whether measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine may be causally associated with autism.
    METHODS:

    Children with autism born since 1979 were identified from special needs/disability registers and special schools in eight North Thames health districts, UK. Information from clinical records was linked to immunisation data held on the child health computing system. We looked for evidence of a change in trend in incidence or age at diagnosis associated with the introduction of MMR vaccination to the UK in 1988. Clustering of onsets within defined postvaccination periods was investigated by the case-series method.
    FINDINGS:

    We identified 498 cases of autism (261 of core autism, 166 of atypical autism, and 71 of Asperger’s syndrome). In 293 cases the diagnosis could be confirmed by the criteria of the International Classification of Diseases, tenth revision (ICD10: 214 [82%] core autism, 52 [31%] atypical autism, 27 [38%] Asperger’s syndrome). There was a steady increase in cases by year of birth with no sudden “step-up” or change in the trend line after the introduction of MMR vaccination. There was no difference in age at diagnosis between the cases vaccinated before or after 18 months of age and those never vaccinated. There was no temporal association between onset of autism within 1 or 2 years after vaccination with MMR (relative incidence compared with control period 0.94 [95% CI 0.60-1.47] and 1.09 [0.79-1.52]). Developmental regression was not clustered in the months after vaccination (relative incidence within 2 months and 4 months after MMR vaccination 0.92 [0.38-2.21] and 1.00 [0.52-1.95]). No significant temporal clustering for age at onset of parental concern was seen for cases of core autism or atypical autism with the exception of a single interval within 6 months of MMR vaccination. This appeared to be an artifact related to the difficulty of defining precisely the onset of symptoms in this disorder.
    INTERPRETATION:

    Our analyses do not support a causal association between MMR vaccine and autism. If such an association occurs, it is so rare that it could not be identified in this large regional sample.

    Thimerosal exposure in early life and neuropsychological outcomes 7-10 years later.
    Barile JP, Kuperminc GP, Weintraub ES, Mink JW, Thompson WW.
    Source

    Department of Psychology, Georgia State University, USA.

    Abstract
    OBJECTIVE:

    The authors used a public use data set to investigate associations between the receipt of thimerosal-containing vaccines and immune globulins early in life and neuropsychological outcomes assessed at 7-10 years.
    METHODS:

    The data were originally created by evaluating 1,047 children ages 7-10 years and their biological mothers. This study developed seven latent neuropsychological factors and regressed them on a comprehensive set of covariates and thimerosal exposure variables.
    RESULTS:

    The authors found no statistically significant associations between thimerosal exposure from vaccines early in life and six of the seven latent constructs. There was a small, but statistically significant association between early thimerosal exposure and the presence of tics in boys.
    CONCLUSIONS:

    This finding should be interpreted with caution due to limitations in the measurement of tics and the limited biological plausibility regarding a causal relationship.

  • Naomi

    I was recently told that if my kids did not get the Measles vax immediately, they would get it because there was an outbreak(oh no!!) in a city an hour away. I looked up the news story and 1 person was infected.

  • WhoCares000009

    Your argument is that some people who receive vaccines still get the illness therefore vaccines are completely ineffective. Nothing is ever going to work 100% of the time; regardless vaccines have had a significant impact on disease trends as demonstrated by steep declines after the introduction of approved vaccines.

    A few excerpts from your own links:

    “During the prevaccine era, nearly everyone in the United States experienced mumps, and 90% of cases occurred among children aged <15 years. In 1977, Iowa law mandated 1 dose of measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine for entry to public schools; in 1991, the mandate became 2 doses. For the 2004–05 school year, 97% of children entering school in Iowa had received 2 doses of MMR vaccine"

    I notice that not everyone gets mumps anymore. Wonder why?

    "Measles cases have surged in parts of Canada and the United States this year, with cases among unvaccinated children and teens driving the high numbers, public health officials from both countries will tell a major infectious diseases conference this weekend."

    Again, outbreaks are primarily amongst unvaccinated children.

    "By 2005, vaccination had reduced the annual incidence of mumps in the United States by more than 99%, with few outbreaks reported."
    "Orchitis was the most common complication (120 cases, 7% of male patients ≥12 years of age), with rates significantly higher among unvaccinated persons than among persons who had received two doses of vaccine."
    "The epidemiologic features of this outbreak suggest that intense exposures, particularly among boys in schools, facilitated transmission and overcame vaccine-induced protection in these patients. High rates of two-dose coverage reduced the severity of the disease and the transmission to persons in settings of less intense exposure."

    So in spite of significant reductions an outbreak still occurred but the symptoms were milder in the vaccinated than unvaccinated populations.

    Diseases are living organisms and, as such, evolve over time. Our vaccinations and vaccination protocols must similarly evolve in order to maintain maximum efficacy. A minor increase in the occurrence of outbreaks amongst vaccinated communities simply underscores the need for continued diligence. The fact remains that unvaccinated children are significantly more likely to contract these diseases, and often experience more severe symptoms.

  • NE914

    I’m a bit confused so could you clarify, do you need an advocate to protect your own health rights, where they
    are trying to push procedures on you against your will?
    Have you been diagnosed with a specific condition by
    the system? ( I read what you said about heavy metal
    toxicity and can sympathize as this and MCS etc. can
    cause a huge toll on one’s health) Or are they trying to push things on your son or both of you? Don’t know what help I could be not being in Oregon… Have you checked out if there are any anti-vax/health freedom groups in Oregon who could help you?

  • Jim Bob

    “Brave” and “Courageous” mother?
    I suppose it takes those attributes to supplant actual knowledge, facts and information with your own beliefs that “vaccines are bad”.
    Moreover, if you don’t trust the medical establishment, don’t bring your kids to a doctor or hospital when they are sick. Especially if you think you know more than your health care provider. Take them to some faith healer/shaman/witch doctor/priest/nun/homeopath/chiropractor/naturopath or whatever voodoo you believe in. Hopefully they have all the “natural cures” you need, all for the low price of $99.99 or whatever they charge.

  • NE914

    Thanks for this important info. I think you need to educate whocares000009 further down this thread by *re-inserting
    this comment to open their eyes.

  • Well, unlike you, we know who the mother is. You talk like you actually know what the words “brave” and “courageous” actually mean, “Jim Bob.”

    You are name calling in the name of Allopathy.

    By the way, ever check to see how much they charge at the hospital for Tylenol?

  • Meredith

    You can travel to any country you like WITHOUT getting a vaccination. Just ask Dr. Tenpenny:

    “WHAT’S RECOMMENDED? WHAT’S REQUIRED?Although the CDC recommends that all travelers obtain vaccines when traveling abroad, it is important to realize that, with one exception, no vaccine is required before you travel anywhere in the world: they are only “recommended.” You will not be required to have a vaccination record to enter a country, nor will you be required to obtain vaccines to return home.

    The sole exception is the Yellow Fever vaccine, which may be required if you travel to or from a South American or African country infected with Yellow Fever. The recommendations can vary from country to country; if such a destination is part of your travel plans, you should look up the Yellow Fever requirements for that specific country. The CDC’s Comprehensive Yellow Fever Vaccination Requirements can be viewed on the CDC website. http://www2.ncid.cdc.gov/travel/yb/utils/ybGet.asp?section=dis&obj=yellowfever.htm

    I have been a globe-trotter for most of my adult life. In the past 25 years, I have traveled to more than 40 countries. I have never been asked for a vaccine record, nor have I ever felt the need for any vaccines, even when traveling to remote, exotic destinations.

    http://drtenpenny.com/far-off-adventures-vaccinations-and-overseas-travel/

  • WhoCares000009

    “You are name calling in the name of Allopathy.”

    How was any of this post ‘name calling?’

  • WhoCares000009

    St_Ann “Another document I carry is a report by Thomas Verstraeten, MD with CDC who wrote in 1999 that a percentage of babies exposed to mercury in vaccines had a risk of developing autism, sleep disorders and speech disorders. This was an official government report, not a conspiracy theory. You can get it here:”

    In 2001 Dr. Thomas Verstraeten published preliminary results that showed a potential link between autism and thiomersal (later larger studies conducted by Verstraeten in 2003 would show that this effect was not replicable and he would conclude there is no link).

    Safety of thimerosal-containing vaccines: a two-phased study of computerized health maintenance organization databases.
    Verstraeten T, Davis RL, DeStefano F, Lieu TA, Rhodes PH, Black SB, Shinefield H, Chen RT; Vaccine Safety Datalink Team.
    Source

    Epidemic Intelligence Service Program, Epidemiology Program Office, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta, Georgia 30333, USA.
    Erratum in

    Pediatrics. 2004 Jan;113(1):184.

    Abstract
    OBJECTIVE:

    To assess the possible toxicity of thimerosal-containing vaccines (TCVs) among infants.
    METHODS:

    A 2-phased retrospective cohort study was conducted using computerized health maintenance organization (HMO) databases. Phase I screened for associations between neurodevelopmental disorders and thimerosal exposure among 124 170 infants who were born during 1992 to 1999 at 2 HMOs (A and B). In phase II, the most common disorders associated with exposure in phase I were reevaluated among 16 717 children who were born during 1991 to 1997 in another HMO (C). Relative risks for neurodevelopmental disorders were calculated per increase of 12.5 micro g of estimated cumulative mercury exposure from TCVs in the first, third, and seventh months of life.
    RESULTS:

    In phase I at HMO A, cumulative exposure at 3 months resulted in a significant positive association with tics (relative risk [RR]: 1.89; 95% confidence interval [CI]: 1.05-3.38). At HMO B, increased risks of language delay were found for cumulative exposure at 3 months (RR: 1.13; 95% CI: 1.01-1.27) and 7 months (RR: 1.07; 95% CI: 1.01-1.13). In phase II at HMO C, no significant associations were found. In no analyses were significant increased risks found for autism or attention-deficit disorder.
    CONCLUSIONS:

    No consistent significant associations were found between TCVs and neurodevelopmental outcomes. Conflicting results were found at different HMOs for certain outcomes. For resolving the conflicting findings, studies with uniform neurodevelopmental assessments of children with a range of cumulative thimerosal exposures are needed.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14595043

  • DocJJ

    I have been extremely intrigued by all of your comments. As a practicing physician who believes in vaccines, I recommend them to my patients and vaccinate my own children. I believe we are all entitled to our beliefs and the choice to vaccinate yourself and your children is up to you as long as we continue to live in a free country. You also have the right to be overweight, drink excessively, smoke tobacco and do plenty of unhealthy things that I do not agree with. All I can offer patients is what I have been taught and what my experience lends me to believe. I never speak in absolutes, because we never fully have all the right answers. We attempt to practice evidence based medicine, however, logic and history shows us that the evidence will continue to evolve. The reason medical professionals feel strongly about this topic is because we believe in the results that have been proven up until this point in history. That does not mean this cannot change in the future, but claiming that you all have the absolute right answers based on unproven and anecdotal “evidence” that is portrayed in these sources you cite is a shortcoming on your end as well. I tell patients all of the time, the best I can give you is my professional opinion, which is usually supported by some degree of objective evidence. I am not always right and what is “right” now may not be right in the future. However, if you CHOOSE to participate in the current medical system, then you need to accept the good an the bad that comes with it. If you decide to pick and choose what you are going to believe in medicine, then you are essentially functioning as the physician yourself. I then ask, why are you in the office/hospital/clinic in the first place? That is why many practices dismiss noncompliant patients. We don’t want the liability of a patient who does not want to follow our recommendations. It is not meant to be judgmental, but if a patient does not agree with the advice that I was trained to give, then get it elsewhere. However, most of those that decide they know best when things are going fine (vaccinating well children is a prime example) are the FIRST to complain when a possible adverse reaction occurs and the FIRST to run to the very place they condemn when an emergency occurs. Trust me, this is just as frustrating for us as it is for you…It is a generally free society, if you don’t want to be chastised for not vaccinating yourself or your children, stay out of the established medical system and stick with alternative options…you won’t get a lick of criticism at the chiropractor or naturopath…but I wouldn’t like your odds when you are critically ill.

  • WhoCares000009

    Studies, published and peer reviewed, have been conducted around the globe to investigate a possible link between vaccinations and Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD), none have been found. Take for example the study conducted at Yokohama Rehabilitation Center, in Yokohama Japan. This study tested for a relationship between MMR vaccines and ASD’s. The MMR vaccination rate in the city of Yokohama declined significantly between 1988 and 1992, and not a single vaccination was administered in 1993 or thereafter. In contrast, cumulative incidence of ASD up to age seven increased significantly in those born between 1988 and 1996 and most notably rose dramatically beginning with those born in 1993. If MMR were the cause, one would have expected to see the exact opposite, a significant decrease in incidence of ASD, not an sharp increase. The significance of this finding is that MMR vaccination is most unlikely to be a main cause of ASD, that it cannot explain the rise over time in the incidence of ASD, and that withdrawal of MMR in countries where it is still being used cannot be expected to lead to a reduction in the incidence of ASD.

    There are numerous published and peer reviewed studies, like the one above, which attempted to link vaccinations and their ingredients to various serious developmental issues. All have shown similar results; no causal relationship indicated. The general scientific consensus, globally, is that vaccines are safe, effective, and beneficial. Compared to the risks of the diseases they prevent, the minor risks posed by vaccines are completely acceptable.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15877763

  • Alex Jones

    Nice “all-or-nothing” attitude, Doc. You just confirmed the cliche I used earlier, that “one-size-fits-all” in the current medical system. No adaptation to individual needs. What do you have to say about the thousands of adverse effects – and deaths – reported as a result of the Gardasil vaccine? Do you think it’s not proven? Have you talked to any of the VICTIMS of Gardasil? Or, do you just ignore them like your associates?

  • DocJJ

    I’m sorry I must have missed them while I was diagnosing someone with cervical cancer or freezing warts off of the genitalia of a teenager, both of which can be prevented to a significant degree with vaccination, and significantly more common than adverse vaccine reactions.

  • WhoCares000009

    @tsssage:disqus “So the real problem is finding something that constitutes “real science” as it seems real science isn’t needed or used when it comes to vaccines.”

    Numerous studies have been conducted on the safety and efficacy of vaccines.

    “All you have to do is follow the $$$$$ trail and you find out the real truth about vaccines.”

    This logic can be applied to almost anything as everything is sold for a profit.

    So called ‘organic foods’ are becoming increasingly popular as the incidence rate of Autism Spectrum Disorders are on the rise. ‘Organic foods’ are sold for a profit therefore any research suggesting they are safe is irrelevant and we should blame them for any health problems our children face.

    Its a silly and fallacious argument that one could plug any number of ’causes’ into and supposedly support almost any conclusion we wanted to reach.

    “I have found that vaccine safety proponents have a better grasp of scientific information than the medical community does.”

    The medical community’s position is backed by published, peer reviewed studies. I can’t say the same for your position.

  • Alex Jones

    You are NOT a doctor – you are an internet shill, troll. get over yourself. What the hell are you doing on the internet at 2:32pm on Friday afternoon? Nice try, moron, get back to your Grand Theft Auto.

  • WhoCares000009

    DocJJ was politely expressing a reasoned argument. You then turn around and offer a fallacious argumentum ad hominem. You couldn’t refute his argument so you attack the man and yet he is the troll?

  • WhoCares000009

    Scandinavia study finds HPV vaccine safe

    In a large study of nearly a million girls in Denmark and Sweden, the human papillomavirus vaccine was not linked to short- or long-term health problems.

    According to the results published in BMJ, there was no link between the type or timing of the girls’ health problems and whether they had gotten the vaccine within the previous six months or had ever received the vaccine.

    Previously, isolated incidents of blood clots or other problems had been pegged to the vaccine, but this large new study did not find any negative health consequences, researchers said.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/23/us-hpv-vaccine-idUSBRE99M14D20131023

  • Ever look at the raw data from this “study”?

  • WhoCares000009

    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anti-vaccination_movement

    Well-sourced article which sums up and refutes most of the anti-vaccination movement’s claims. Continue the vaccinations; your children, their friends, and their friends’ parents will all thank you.

  • WhoCares000009

    I’m sorry, are you saying that you don’t believe diseases are caused by micro-organisms? By all means, let us hear your proof.

  • Alex Jones

    Don’t try to distract from the point I’m making, WhoCares. I did not attack him, I’m just stating the obvious: What doctor has time to get on the internet on a Friday afternoon to state points of view that ALL of us are already well aware of? How do you know he is a man? Hey, Doc JJ, what’s your real name? What hospital do you work at? Why aren’t you tending to the genital warts of your patients right now? Phony wanna-be.

    As for you, WhoCares, Why are YOU here? I don’t give a crap about your “fallacious argumentum ad hominem” when there are people dying from vaccines and thousands more injured from them. Both of you are avoiding THAT FACT by trying to distract from it.

  • WhoCares000009

    More details available here if you’re interested:

    http://www.bmj.com/content/347/bmj.f5906

  • WhoCares000009

    You’re distracting from the point, which is that you couldn’t refute his argument. Resorting to such tactics is a sure sign of a weak argument. You claim that people are dying from vaccines and thousands more are injured, you claim this is a fact. You’ll excuse me if I don’t take your word for it.

  • Alex Jones

    You must really enjoy wasting my time.

  • WhoCares000009

    Notice that proof is still not forthcoming.

  • Alex Jones

    web bot

  • AirEvac

    Well, I’m really fascinated that most of the “bloggers” out there can site the internet. I forgot, what is found on the internet is true. If you haven’t visited outside the walls of the US (or your house) and seen the devastation caused by non-vaccinated countries, then I also guess you really know what your talking about. My sarcasm aside, I really find it rude to call someone who vaccinates their child(ren), uneducated. Along with being in the medical field and in the military that gets EVERY vaccination, I find it offensive that you would call the medical profession “bullies”, when every person who walks through the ER door is cared for BASED on their personal needs. Our society breeds on blaming others for their faults or misguidance. BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS. If your belief is to uneducate your children for their actions, then please live with the responsibility that follows your decision(s) and stop blaming others for the damage caused.

  • DocJJ

    LOL…Alex Jones, you are certifiable. I came across your blog over lunch after I read an article relating to this story on CNN (which I read over my lunch hour). I couldn’t help but to reply, because I have been inundated with vaccine questions of late because it is flu season. I like to see where my patients get these ideas from and you are really opening my eyes. Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem like you can agree to disagree and be cordial. I am seeing patients and being quite amused by commenting on here in between them. Unfortunately, I will have to stay a little late to finish charting and paperwork tonight, but you are definitely making this worth my while. I will not post my name because you kind of scare me, and I doubt alex jones is YOUR real name. But anyway, I am in my 30s, a licensed family doctor in Illinois and graduated from a top Chicago based medical school. I am not sure how I can “prove” I am a “real” doctor, but I am not posting my license for your to view…lol. Thanks for the back-up Whocares.

  • Jim Bob

    I guess the difference is that Tylenol works.

  • Jim Bob

    Alex Jones,
    I believe what whocares is trying to say is that there aren’t “people dying from vaccines” and there aren’t “thousands more injured from them”.
    And he’s correct.
    PS. Are you the same guy on Piers Morgan who got angry at him because he came at you with “facts and statistics”?

  • WhoCares000009

    “73.3% of girls who received the HPV vaccine developed new medical conditions after receiving the HPV vaccine”

    According to a radio show host. A number of scientific studies have been published which suggest otherwise.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2011.02467.x/full

    http://share.kaiserpermanente.org/article/kaiser-permanente-study-finds-gardasil-does-not-trigger-lupus-rheumatoid-arthritis-or-type-1-diabetes-after-vaccination/

  • WhoCares000009

    Read, “Autism’s False Prophets: Bad Science, Risky Medicine, and the Search for a Cure”

    Paul A. Offit, MD, FAAP

    http://cup.columbia.edu/book/978-0-231-14636-4/autisms-false-prophets/excerpt

    The science is largely complete. Ten epidemiological studies have shown MMR vaccine doesn’t cause autism; six have shown thimerosal doesn’t cause autism; three have shown thimerosal doesn’t cause subtle neurological problems; a growing body of evidence now points to the genes that are linked to autism; and despite the removal of Thimerosal from vaccines in 2001, the number of children with autism continues to rise. Now it’s up to certain parent advocacy groups, through their public relations firms, lawyers, and celebrity spokespersons, to convince the public that all of these studies are wrong—and to convince them that the doctors who proffer their vast array of alternative medicines are the only ones who really care.

  • Roxanne

    Please explain “evidence based medicine” that routinely uses non-inert placebos in their trials – a violation of scientific integrity; that does not
    test for carcinogenicity or mutagenic potential, nor often for impairment of fertility (see monographs); that does not look for long-term links to auto-immune disorders? Please explain how a modality can be viewed objectively when it is part of a broken system of power, politics and profit with links between industry and regulators and the medical “authorities”…. Please explain “evidence based medicine” that routinely ignores the most obvious black and white changes post vaccination brushing off a healthy infants death to the DPT within 24 hours, or a teen’s stroke within an hour of the HPV vaccine, with that ever so scientific verdict that it’s a “coincidence.”

  • Roxanne

    There is no proof the the HPV vaccine actually prevents
    cancer – only that it addresses several strains – not all, pre-cancerous lesions that usually clear up on their own. Furthermore, there is debate as to whether these strains
    alone can cause cancer. As you must surely be aware, cervical cancer has one of the lowest rates compared to other cancers and primarily affects women in mid to late life. No one knows the impact of vaccinating girls/teen
    for a disease that in the vast majority of cases manifests
    decades down the road. The irony is that the product monograph itself admits that it is NOT tested for carcinogenic potential. Meanwhile women who’ve already been exposed to the strains in question prior to HPV vaccine could increase
    their chances of problems.

  • ourinstantmatter

    I
    applaud the idea that the nurse ought to be corrected. How should she
    be corrected? The nurse could write (and sign) a letter detailing
    exactly what happened, how she failed the patient, that it will not
    happen again, and that such conduct was inappropriate for a nurse.
    Given the level of arrogance present within the Western medical
    community such an event would be unlikely. So how to deal with medical
    staff committed to imposing their will and experimental medical
    procedures upon our bodies without our consent? Make public your
    confrontation as Jeffry has done this day. If the confrontation is
    violative of your rights then do consider initiating criminal and civil
    actions against the nurse, doctor, or other staff enabling the
    violation.
    There is a recent ongoing case (occurred in the Doctors
    Hospital in Augusta, Georgia 2012) wherein a pediatrician named Dr.
    Richard Cartie, many medical staff, police, and many attorneys set into
    motion an armed child kidnapping of a two year old burn patient when his
    parents refused to consent a single tetanus vaccine. This was by
    statutory definition an aggravated kidnapping because the child was
    physically harmed after being unlawfully seized by the Georgia
    government. This story is shared to let folks know that vaccine refusal
    can and does lead to State sanctioned child kidnapping and forced
    vaccination. This is the America we live in.

    More about this
    story here:
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/147418318/Narrative-details-and-timeline
    and here:
    http://www.scribd.com/ourinstantmatter/documents

  • WhoCares000009

    The “studies” promoted by the anti-vaccination movement aren’t even studies. Just innuendo, anecdotes, and cherry-picked statistics, nothing that has been published for review by the scientific community. Notice your links, all references to your own echo-chamber.

    I notice your transition to ‘aluminum adjuvants’ as your cause du jour. Not surprising. As true, published, and peer reviewed studies disprove claims to links between MMR and Thimerosal and a whole host of medical conditions, anti-vaccination proponents ‘move the goal post’ and claim that the cause must be something else. Aluminum, the most common metal in nature, is perfectly safe in small amounts. (A dose of antacid has about 1,000 times as much as a vaccine does.) Here’s an article that deals with the safety of aluminum adjuvants in-depth.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3541479/

    Excerpt:

    Aluminum-containing adjuvants have been used for more than 70 years in billions of doses of vaccines, and have an excellent safety record (Butler et al., 1969; Edelman, 1980; Jefferson et al., 2004). The maximum amount of aluminum adjuvant allowed in human vaccines in the US is 0.85 mg Al/dose, and the amount in licensed vaccines ranges from 0.125 to 0.85 mg Al/dose (Baylor et al., 2002). Aluminum is an abundant metal in the environment and is daily ingested in food and water (Willhite et al., 2012). Aluminum is also commonly used in antacids and antiperspirants. However, only small amounts of aluminum are absorbed via the intestinal barrier and the skin. Most of the aluminum is excreted via the kidneys. Aluminum toxicity from occupational exposure, renal disease, and parenteral nutrition is associated with neurologic disease and bone disease (Willhite et al., 2012). The pharmacokinetics of aluminum following intramuscular injection of AH and AP (0.85 mg/dose) was studied in rabbits using the rare 26Al isotope as a tracer (Flarend et al., 1997). The data indicated that 17% of AH and 51% of AP was released into the blood circulation over a 28 day period. Based on these and other data, it was recently estimated that the concentration of aluminum in blood derived from vaccines administered to infants during the first year of life remains well below the minimum risk level established by the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry (Mitkus et al., 2011).

  • WhoCares000009

    The call for an vaccinated vs unvaccinated study is not a new one. The primary concerns, from a scientific perspective, are that such a study would be unethical. Vaccinating one cohort and leaving the other vulnerable to preventable diseases could certainly be described as such. Generation Rescue itself tried to do it. It was a very bad study, really no more than a phone survey, and its results were amusing in that they found that the highest rates of autism were in the so-called “partially vaccinated” children. The clear implication of the study was drolly described by Kevin Leitch:

    There’s no getting away from this. This is a disaster for Generation Rescue and the whole ‘vaccines cause autism’ debacle. Generation Rescue’s data indicates that you are ‘safer’ from autism if you fully vaccinate than partially vaccinate. It also indicates that across the spectrum of autism, you are only 1% more likely to be autistic if you have had any sort of vaccination as oppose to no vaccinations at all – and thats only if you are male. If you are a girl you chances of being on the spectrum are less if you have been vaccinated! Across both boys and girls, your chances of being on the spectrum are less if you have received all vaccinations.

  • WhoCares000009

    Studies have been conducted at various institutions around the globe, none of which could find evidence linking MMR or Thimerosal to Autism Spectrum Disorders. If this is a conspiracy, it is a BIG one.

    No effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a total population study.
    Honda H, Shimizu Y, Rutter M.
    Source

    Yokohama Rehabilitation Center, Yokohama, Japan.

    Abstract
    BACKGROUND:

    A causal relationship between the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine and occurrence of autism spectrum disorders (ASD) has been claimed, based on an increase in ASD in the USA and the UK after introduction of the MMR vaccine. However, the possibility that this increase is coincidental has not been eliminated. The unique circumstances of a Japanese MMR vaccination program provide an opportunity for comparison of ASD incidence before and after termination of the program.
    METHODS:

    This study examined cumulative incidence of ASD up to age seven for children born from 1988 to 1996 in Kohoku Ward (population approximately 300,000), Yokohama, Japan. ASD cases included all cases of pervasive developmental disorders according to ICD-10 guidelines.
    RESULTS:

    The MMR vaccination rate in the city of Yokohama declined significantly in the birth cohorts of years 1988 through 1992, and not a single vaccination was administered in 1993 or thereafter. In contrast, cumulative incidence of ASD up to age seven increased significantly in the birth cohorts of years 1988 through 1996 and most notably rose dramatically beginning with the birth cohort of 1993.
    CONCLUSIONS:

    The significance of this finding is that MMR vaccination is most unlikely to be a main cause of ASD, that it cannot explain the rise over time in the incidence of ASD, and that withdrawal of MMR in countries where it is still being used cannot be expected to lead to a reduction in the incidence of ASD.

    Association between thimerosal-containing vaccine and autism.
    Hviid A, Stellfeld M, Wohlfahrt J, Melbye M.
    Source

    Danish Epidemiology Science Centre, Department of Epidemiology Research, Statens Serum Institut, Copenhagen, Denmark.

    RESULTS:

    During 2 986 654 person-years, we identified 440 autism cases and 787 cases of other autistic-spectrum disorders. The risk of autism and other autistic-spectrum disorders did not differ significantly between children vaccinated with thimerosal-containing vaccine and children vaccinated with thimerosal-free vaccine (RR, 0.85 [95% confidence interval [CI], 0.60-1.20] for autism; RR, 1.12 [95% CI, 0.88-1.43] for other autistic-spectrum disorders). Furthermore, we found no evidence of a dose-response association (increase in RR per 25 microg of ethylmercury, 0.98 [95% CI, 0.90-1.06] for autism and 1.03 [95% CI, 0.98-1.09] for other autistic-spectrum disorders).
    CONCLUSION:

    The results do not support a causal relationship between childhood vaccination with thimerosal-containing vaccines and development of autistic-spectrum disorders.

    MMR-vaccine and regression in autism spectrum disorders: negative results presented from Japan.
    Uchiyama T, Kurosawa M, Inaba Y.
    Source

    Department of Human Welfare, Otsuma Women’s University, 2-7-1, Karakida, Tama-city, Tokyo, 206-8540, Japan.

    Abstract

    It has been suggested that the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine (MMR) is a cause of regressive autism. As MMR was used in Japan only between 1989 and 1993, this time period affords a natural experiment to examine this hypothesis. Data on 904 patients with autism spectrum disorders (ASD) were analyzed. During the period of MMR usage no significant difference was found in the incidence of regression between MMR-vaccinated children and non-vaccinated children. Among the proportion and incidence of regression across the three MMR-program-related periods (before, during and after MMR usage), no significant difference was found between those who had received MMR and those who had not. Moreover, the incidence of regression did not change significantly across the three periods.

    Absence of detectable measles virus genome sequence in blood of autistic children who have had their MMR vaccination during the routine childhood immunization schedule of UK.
    Afzal MA, Ozoemena LC, O’Hare A, Kidger KA, Bentley ML, Minor PD.
    Source

    Division of Virology, National Institute for Biological Standards and Control, South Mimms, Potters Bar, Hertfordshire, United Kingdom.

    Abstract

    Leukocyte preparations from children with documented evidence of MMR vaccination and confirmed diagnosis of autism were examined by several assays designed to target multiple regions of the measles virus genome sequence. No sample was found positive by any method. The assays applied were highly sensitive, specific and robust in nature, and were based on the amplification of measles virus RNA transcripts by real-time quantitative RT-PCR (QRT-PCR) as well as by conventional RT-PCR-nested PCR. The assays applied were potentially able to detect measles virus RNA down to single figure copy numbers per reaction. The amount of total nucleic acid extract of leukocytes subjected to various measles virus-specific investigations was several fold higher than minimally required of a sample where measles virus persistence is well documented. This study failed to substantiate reports of the persistence of measles virus in autistic children with development regression.

    Autism and measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine: no epidemiological evidence for a causal association.
    Taylor B, Miller E, Farrington CP, Petropoulos MC, Favot-Mayaud I, Li J, Waight PA.
    Source

    Department of Community Child Health, Royal Free and University College Medical School, University College London, UK.

    Abstract
    BACKGROUND:

    We undertook an epidemiological study to investigate whether measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine may be causally associated with autism.
    METHODS:

    Children with autism born since 1979 were identified from special needs/disability registers and special schools in eight North Thames health districts, UK. Information from clinical records was linked to immunisation data held on the child health computing system. We looked for evidence of a change in trend in incidence or age at diagnosis associated with the introduction of MMR vaccination to the UK in 1988. Clustering of onsets within defined postvaccination periods was investigated by the case-series method.
    FINDINGS:

    We identified 498 cases of autism (261 of core autism, 166 of atypical autism, and 71 of Asperger’s syndrome). In 293 cases the diagnosis could be confirmed by the criteria of the International Classification of Diseases, tenth revision (ICD10: 214 [82%] core autism, 52 [31%] atypical autism, 27 [38%] Asperger’s syndrome). There was a steady increase in cases by year of birth with no sudden “step-up” or change in the trend line after the introduction of MMR vaccination. There was no difference in age at diagnosis between the cases vaccinated before or after 18 months of age and those never vaccinated. There was no temporal association between onset of autism within 1 or 2 years after vaccination with MMR (relative incidence compared with control period 0.94 [95% CI 0.60-1.47] and 1.09 [0.79-1.52]). Developmental regression was not clustered in the months after vaccination (relative incidence within 2 months and 4 months after MMR vaccination 0.92 [0.38-2.21] and 1.00 [0.52-1.95]). No significant temporal clustering for age at onset of parental concern was seen for cases of core autism or atypical autism with the exception of a single interval within 6 months of MMR vaccination. This appeared to be an artifact related to the difficulty of defining precisely the onset of symptoms in this disorder.
    INTERPRETATION:

    Our analyses do not support a causal association between MMR vaccine and autism. If such an association occurs, it is so rare that it could not be identified in this large regional sample.

    Thimerosal exposure in early life and neuropsychological outcomes 7-10 years later.
    Barile JP, Kuperminc GP, Weintraub ES, Mink JW, Thompson WW.
    Source

    Department of Psychology, Georgia State University, USA.

    Abstract
    OBJECTIVE:

    The authors used a public use data set to investigate associations between the receipt of thimerosal-containing vaccines and immune globulins early in life and neuropsychological outcomes assessed at 7-10 years.
    METHODS:

    The data were originally created by evaluating 1,047 children ages 7-10 years and their biological mothers. This study developed seven latent neuropsychological factors and regressed them on a comprehensive set of covariates and thimerosal exposure variables.
    RESULTS:

    The authors found no statistically significant associations between thimerosal exposure from vaccines early in life and six of the seven latent constructs. There was a small, but statistically significant association between early thimerosal exposure and the presence of tics in boys.
    CONCLUSIONS:

    This finding should be interpreted with caution due to limitations in the measurement of tics and the limited biological plausibility regarding a causal relationship.

  • Roxanne

    Studies can be designed to get any outcome desired especially when commercial interests are at stake. Talk to my friend’s daughter whose otherwise excellent health was devastated, and whose complaints weren’t even investigated.
    Tell that to the families of these and many other girls who’ve suffered or died from this vaccine. http://truthaboutgardasil.org/ When you have a broken
    system that outright denies even the possibility of vaccine
    guilt, it’s easy to claim safety.

  • WhoCares000009

    First of all, you present no evidence for any of your claims, merely allegations. Second, I suggest researching the phrase ‘post hoc ergo propter hoc.’ Just because one event follows another does not mean that one event necessarily causes another. Sometimes it is simply correlation without causation.

  • Roxanne

    The devastation you speak of is not due to “vaccine deficiencies” but deficiencies of the most critical and fundamental nature – proper nutrition, clean drinking water,
    proper sanitation etc. that support the function of a healthy immune system. Historical records show that as these
    improvements were implemented in the western world the mortality rate for infectious diseases plummeted drastically prior to the introduction of vaccination or antibiotics.

  • WhoCares000009

    The fact that they have performed studies suggests that they have at least considered the possibility of a correlation, they simply didn’t find it. I’m sorry to hear about your friend’s daughter, but a few anecdotes out of millions of vaccines administered is not compelling evidence.

  • WhoCares000009

    Your assertion is not supported by the available evidence. If you were to look at trends for vaccine preventable diseases in the U.S., you would find that they each tend to drop off shortly after a vaccine is licensed. If the drop in disease were due to hygiene and sanitation, you would expect all diseases to start going away at about the same time.

    http://www.vaccines.gov/images/measles.jpg

    Measles vaccine was licensed in 1962, and as you can see, that’s when the number of cases started to decline. (Measles didn’t completely disappear after 1993; there have just been too few cases to show up on this graph.)

    If the drop in disease were due to hygiene and sanitation, you would expect all diseases to start going away at about the same time. But if you were to look at the graph for polio, for example, you would see the number of cases start to drop around 1955 – the year the first polio vaccine was licensed. If you look at the graph for Hib, the number drops around 1990, for pneumococcal disease around 2000 — corresponding to the introduction of vaccines for those diseases.

    http://www.vaccines.gov/basics/effectiveness/

  • Roxanne

    I don’t think that any reasonable person – regardless of the health modality
    they subscribe to – would argue that hospitals, emergency medical interventions, surgeries aren’t needed. What’s at issue here, is whether
    the nurse’s behavior was professional or not, and whether she deserved to be held to account re. such.

  • I’m glad you posted on here. I have three questions for you – from a parent to a doctor.

    1. Please be honest in your response when I ask how many vaccine inserts have you read?

    2. Can you please tell me more about the scientific measures/tests you use to determine a child is having a serious adverse reaction to a vaccine?

    3. Can you tell me what is the difference between encephalitis from wild measles virus and the vaccine derived virus?

    Thank you.

  • Roxanne

    Hmm… “No evidence for any of your claims”, huh? So, I’m just making up product monograph info??? (only a few examples below)

    *** “Prevnar has not been evaluated for its carcinogenic or mutagenic potential or impaired infertility…Immune response elicited by Prevnar among infants born prematurely have not been studied.” Two Statements from Product Monograph for Prevnar Vaccine

    *** “Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Fluzone vaccine. It is also not known whether Fluzone vaccine can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity … Fluzone vaccine has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential or for impairment of fertility.” Vaccine Package Insert for Sanofi Pasteur’s Fluzone
    I have the chart for Gardasil being tested against non-inert placebo and it’s not alone.
    “Just because one event follows another does
    not mean that one event necessarily causes another”…
    nor does it mean that there is no correlation, especially in such blatant, hello, connect the dots cases – so why
    are countless such cases dismissed WITHOUT investigation?

  • Roxanne

    These are not a “few anecdotes”, WhoCares… , this is reflective of a corrupt, broken system in which vaccine are ASSUMED to be innocent, and hence the victim is, in essence, an invisible, unregistered stat, whose case never
    gets the investigation it deserves. It is well acknowledged
    that only a tiny fraction of potential vaccine injury ever gets
    recorded.

  • Roxanne

    Mortality from a variety of infectious diseases started to plummet well before the vaccines were introduced – this
    includes Scarlet Fever – for which NO Vaccine was ever
    administered. At a recent talk, the regional health authorities
    made absurd claims grossly exaggerating the dangers of measles. (Meanwhile none of them questioned the health implications of the measles vaccine repeating without independent investigation “the benefits outweigh the risks”- let alone in combination with two other live virus vaccines) When I pointed out that I had the official regional stats in hand going back to the late 1800’s showing that mortality from measles plummeted many decades before the vaccine, they sat in awkward silence. I could forward several links but there is enough material in this one…
    http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/#Whoop_EngUS_Aus

  • NE 914

    Yeah, works at causing kidney and liver damage.

  • Roxanne

    This diversionary response does not cut it because the very bodies that are supposed to be bastions of independent, objective review such as the CDC are infested with conflicts
    of interest. Given the billions at stake in the global vaccine
    market, one would have to be grossly naïve to think that
    the politics of power and profit don’t impact professional
    research, (who gets funded and who doesn’t) medical censorship of those critical of vaccines, academia etc.
    This kind of revolving door influence violates the public trust and rather than minimizing it, you should be concerned about it.

  • Tanya C.

    Hi Doc, since you practice in Chicago, I would really sincerely suggest that you be in touch with Dr. Mayor Einsenstein who has observed startling differences in the health of vaccinated versus unvaccinated patients. Even if you currently advocate vaccination, I’d like to think that you’d be open to
    exchanging ideas. Thanks.

  • WhoCares000009

    Apologies, upon re-reading your post you did mention the package inserts which I hadn’t previously noticed. This was the only claim you actually backed up however, the rest reads as mere rhetoric.

    As far as testing for carcinogenic tendencies, mutagenic tendencies, infertility, etc… they didn’t specifically test to see if these vaccines caused baldness, heart disease, thickening of the nails, or blindness either, but there was no reason to suspect that they would. If researchers were forced to test for every condition known to man then no new drugs would ever be approved. Vaccines have been in usage for centuries and in all that time there’s never been any evidence to suggest that vaccines cause a meaningful increase in cancer or infertility. Studies tend to focus on likely or perceived risks, not random ones.

    There was some concern, about 50 years ago, regarding a contaminated polio vaccine, but studies suggested that it was not linked to an increased risk of cancer. If even a contaminated vaccine didn’t cause cancer I would hardly say that any other vaccine poses a high-risk, some may even prevent cancer.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12671021
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15286015
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15734981
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15367569
    http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/treatmenttypes/immunotherapy/immunotherapy-cancer-vaccines

    @dbac111b754a8ada9f1a416836be474d:disqus “nor does it mean that there is no correlation, especially in such blatant, hello, connect the dots cases – so why are countless such cases dismissed WITHOUT investigation?”

    It certainly doesn’t prove there is no causal relationship either, that much is true. Your assertion that these are ‘connect the dot cases’ suggests that you still don’t grasp the concept. If I gave you a candy-bar and you developed a brain tumor the next week would you say that the candy bar caused it? There are too many variables to draw that sort of concussion. The concerns are certainly being investigated in depth, and I’ve presented studies throughout this forum as evidence of this. The fact is, no study published in a peer-reviewed journal has provided evidence to suggest the general risks of vaccines out-weigh the benefits.

  • WhoCares000009

    Well acknowledged by whom?

  • WhoCares000009

    Those are all mortality statistics; vaccines are primarily concerned with the propagation of diseases which makes total cases a more reliable meter. Also, some of these values are subjective, for example a pertussis vaccine has been available since 1926 but your ‘data’ suggests it wasn’t “widely available” until the late 1940’s. What defines widely available? Also, your data suggests no “widespread” vaccine availability for Typhoid (1896 vaccine) or Scarlet fever (1924 vaccine), again how do they define “widespread?” This raises some serious doubts regarding your data-set. I think I’ll stick with data which I can independently verify.

  • Roxanne

    Re. SV-40 and cancer
    “Despite official denials of any correlation between polio vaccines, SV-40 and increased cancer rates, by April 2001, 62 papers from 30 laboratories around the world had reported SV-40 in human tissues and tumours.”
    San Francisco Chronicle 7/15/2001

    “A study of 59,000 women found that children of mothers who received the Salk vaccine between 1959 and 1965 had brain tumors at a rate 13 times greater than mothers who did not receive those polio shots.”
    New England Journal of Medicine 1988; 318; 1469

    “I just think this virus may have some long-term affects…cancer. Three, four weeks after that we found tumours popping out of these hamsters.”
    Dr. Maurice Hilleman, Chief Vaccine Developer, Merck relating comments made to Dr. Albert Sabin, developer of the live virus polio vaccine, in interview with Edward Shorter, Medical Historian, 2/6/87

  • WhoCares000009

    Clearly there is no evidence which you would ever accept as proof that vaccines do more good than harm. You are convinced you are right and dismiss all evidence due to conspiracy theories involving pharmaceutical companies conspiring to poison ‘the children.’ You dismiss logic and reason in favor of paranoia. You can keep it, I’ve found nothing compelling in any of the evidence or arguments presented here.

  • Cherry Misra

    To Who Cares, You are slightly mistaken- When interviewed later, Dr. Verstraeten declared that his research did not show a negative correlation with autism. He sated that it showed that more research needed to be done. The fact that all his raw data have been denied to the public speaks to how much we can rely on what we were told that his research “showed”

    To all: Lets just get a little , simple questionairre ready that we can give to any doubting doctor or nurse,- simple questions such as “What is the name of the mercury ingredient in the flu shot?” This will show them how little they have actually studied vaccines.

  • Roxanne
  • Okay. Define how influenza is measured and validated.

  • Roxanne

    I think I’ll definitely stick with data I cited. Mortality is critical in my view as invariably the vast soup of microbes we live in are too smart to be “conquered” and our obsession with obliterating infectious disease could well backfire with unknown consequences. Ultimately, a strong, healthy immune system is one’s best defense against succumbing
    to any condition – be it an infectious disease or another. We
    fundamentally subscribe to different paradigms and hence
    are unlikely to see eye to eye.

  • Roxanne

    “They didn’t specifically test to see if these vaccines cause…blindness either.”….Well, perhaps they should!

    Vaccines and Vision Loss:

    Albitar S, et al. Bilateral retrobulbar optic neuritis with hepatitis B vaccination. Nephrol Dial Transplant. 1997 Oct;12(10):2169-70.

    Achiron LR, et al. Postinfectious hepatitis B optic neuritis. Optom Vis Sci 1994;71:53-6. Arya SC., et al. Ophthalmic complications of vaccines against hepatitis B virus. Int Ophthalmol. 1997;21(3):177-8.

    Baglivo E, et al. Multiple evanescent white dot syndrome after hepatitis B vaccine. Am J Ophthalmol. 1996 Sep;122(3):431-2.

    Berkman N, Benzarti T, Dhaoui R, Mouly P., et al. [Bilateral neuro-papillitis after hepatitis B vaccination] Presse Med. 1996 Sep 28;25(28):1301. French.

    Berkman N. [A case of segmentary unilateral occlusion of the central retinal vein following hepatitis B vaccination]. Presse Med. 1997 Apr 26;26(14):670. French.

    Bienfang DC, et al. Ocular abnormalities after influenza immunization. Arch Ophthalmol. 1977 Sep;95(9):1649.

    Bourges JL, Pisella PJ, Laurens C, Limon S. [Multifocal placoid epitheliopathy and anti-hepatitis B vaccination] J Fr Ophtalmol. 1998 Nov;21(9):696-700. French.

    Brezin A, et al. Visual loss and eosinophilia after recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Lancet. 1993 Aug 28;342(8870):563-4.

    Brezin AP, Massin-Korobelnik P, Boudin M, Gaudric A, LeHoang P., et al. Acute posterior multifocal placoid pigment epitheliopathy after hepatitis B vaccine. Arch Ophthalmol. 1995 Mar;113(3):297-300.

    Fong KS, et al. Multiple evanescent white dot syndrome–an uncommon cause for an enlarged blind spot. Ann Acad Med Singapore. 1996 Nov;25(6):866-8.

    Galli M, Morelli R, Casellato A, et al. Retrobulbar optic neuritis in a patient with acute type B hepatitis. Neurol Sci 1986;72:195-200.

    Granel B, et al. [Occlusion of the central retinal vein after vaccination against viral hepatitis B with recombinant vaccines. 4 cases]. Presse Med. 1997 Feb 1;26(2):62-5. French.

    Hull TP, et al. Optic neuritis after influenza vaccination. Am J Ophthalmol. 1997 Nov;124(5):703-4.

    Helies P, et al. [Oculo-palpebral complication of vaccination. Review of the literature]. J Fr Ophtalmol. 1994;17(1):62-6. Review. French.

    Kazarian EL, et al. Optic neuritis complicating measles, mumps, and rubella vaccination. Am J Ophthalmol. 1978 Oct;86(4):544-7.

    Kawasaki A, et al. Bilateral anterior ischemic optic neuropathy following influenza vaccination. J Neuroophthalmol. 1998 Mar;18(1):56-9.

    Kline L, Margulies SL, Oh SJ. Optic neuritis and myelitis following rubella vaccination. Arch Neurol 1982;39:443-4.

    Milkowski S. [Ocular complications following influenza]. Wiad Lek. 1971 Jan 15;24(2):103-8. Polish.

    McKibbin M, et al. Bilateral optic neuritis after hepatitis A. J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry. 1995 Apr;58(4):508.

    Ray CL, et al. Bilateral optic neuropathy associated with influenza vaccination. J Neuroophthalmol. 1996 Sep;16(3):182-4.

    Voigt U, Baum U, Behrendt W, Hegemann S, Terborg C, Strobel J. [Neuritis of the optic nerve after vaccinations against hepatitis A, hepatitis B and yellow fever] Klin Monatsbl Augenheilkd. 2001 Oct;218(10):688-90. German.

    Schuil J, van de Putte EM, Zwaan CM, Koole FD, Meire FM. Retinopathy following measles, mumps, and rubella vaccination in an immuno-incompetent girl.Int Ophthalmol. 1998;22(6):345-7.

    Solomon A, et al. Bilateral simultaneous corneal graft rejection after influenza vaccination. Am J Ophthalmol. 1996 Jun;121(6):708-9.

    Solomon A, et al. Adverse ocular effects following influenza vaccination. Eye. 1999 Jun;13 (Pt 3A):381-2.

    Stevenson VL, et al. Optic neuritis following measles/rubella vaccination in two 13-year-old children. Br J Ophthalmol. 1996 Dec;80(12):1110-1.

    Kawasaki A, et al. Bilateral anterior ischemic optic neuropathy following influenza vaccination. J Neuroophthalmol. 1998 Mar;18(1):56-9.

  • Roxanne

    Re. my “allegation” re. the revolving door, just a few comments amongst many that could be offered…
    “The combined profits for the ten drug companies in the Fortune 500 ($35.9 billion) were more than the profits for all the other 490 businesses put together ($33.7 billion) in 2002…Now, primarily a marketing machine to sell drugs of dubious benefit, this industry uses its weight and power to co-opt every institution that might stand in its way, including the US Congress, the FDA, academia, medical centers and the medical profession itself.”
    Dr. Marcia Angell, former Editor, The New England Journal of Medicine

    “The annual global market for vaccines is expected to go from $6 billion today to $10 billiion by 2006. With this kind of money to be made, it’s not surprising that health officials are recommending more and more vaccines.” ‘Health Official Have Close Relationship With Vaccine Maker’, United Press International, 11/23/03

    “Ninety-two percent of FDA advisory meetings had at least one member with a conflict of interest.” David Ayoub MD, citing USA Today, ‘FDA Conflicts of Interest’ 9/25/2000

    “The CDC routinely allows scientists with blatant conflicts of interest to serve on influential advisory committees… for which they are supposed to be providing unbiased oversight.” Dan Burton, former U.S. Congressional Representative

    “Members of the CDC’s Vaccine Advisory Committee get money from vaccines manufacturers. Relationships include: sharing a vaccine patent; owning stock in a vaccine company, payments for research getting money to monitor manufacturer’s tests and funding academic departments.” UPI (United Press International) Investigates the Vaccine Conflict

    “The Institute of Medicine … receives government contracts to evaluate which vaccines should be put on the fast track… While IOM is described as an independent scientific body, conflicts of interest betrays its independence. IOM’s corporate donor list reads like a who’s who of the medical industrial complex, including nearly all major drug and vaccine manufacturers, the American Medical Association, The American Hospital Association, the World Health Organization, Monsanto, the March of Dimes…” Kristine M. Severyn RPh, PhD, Vaccine Policy Institute

    “The vaccine industry gives millions to the American Academy of Pediatrics for conference grants medical education classes, even to help build their headquarters. The totals are kept secret but public documents reveal pieces $342,000 was given by Wyeth maker of the pneumococcal vaccine; $433,000 was contributed to the Academy by Merck the same year the Academy endorsed Merck’s HPV vaccine… Then there’s Paul Offit perhaps the most widely quoted author of vaccine safety. He has gone so far as to say that babies can theoretically tolerate 10,000 vaccines at once… Dr. Offit holds a $1.5 million research chair at Children’s Hospital funded by Merck… The AAP, ‘Every Child by Two’ and Dr. Offit wouldn’t agree to interviews but all told us they’re up front about the money they receive and it doesn’t sway their opinion.” CBS, ‘How Independent Are Vaccine Defenders’, 7/25/08

  • Roxanne

    Please, it is absolutely absurd to compare eating a candy bar and the discovery of a brain tumour that takes years to develop with the examples I cited. This shows lack of awareness of the implications of forcibly injecting toxins into the body that BYPASS the critical frontier of the immune response, devastate the developing blood-brain barrier in infants, induce synergistic toxicity, demyelination etc…The next time you stub your toe and feel pain, just consider that “Just because one event follows another does not mean that one event necessarily causes another. Sometimes it is simply correlation without causation”
    Re. auto-immune disease which take years to develop, please cite long-term monitoring for such…
    Lastly, the onus is on vaccine proponents to show “the benefits outweigh the risks”… If vaccine trials are flawed, if there is no long-term tracking for auto-immune disease,
    (let alone other things not perceived (assumed) to be problems) if adverse events are routinely written off and assumed to be unrelated, if there are no long-term studies critically comparing asthma, diabetes, SIDS, allergies, etc., in vaccinated versus unvaccinated populations, then
    on what basis can the risks of vaccination ever be ascertained with any integrity?

  • Roxanne

    Being in veterinary medicine, I’d assume you’d already be aware of The
    University of Purdue study but am sending this along anyway:

    http://www.dogsadversereactions.com/scienceVaccineDamage.html

  • Roxanne

    Wow, such defensiveness… Were the vaccine monographs I sent “conspiracy theories”?? Were the monographs sent showing vaccines trials using non-inert placebos created from my “paranoia”?? Were the quotes I cited re. the CDC, AAP etc., from UPI, CBS etc. made up by me?? Perhaps you think that Dr. Angel (former editor of the NEJM) is paranoid, in which case I could site many more INSIDERS speaking out. Were the studies I sent re. vision loss and vaccines considered for their evidence or just met with dismissal because you never entertained that vaccines could be implicated in vision problems (and a whole slew of other things)??

    You make assumptions about me… I used to be blindly, auto-pilot pro-vaccine never questioning the indoctrination I received until three things happened in my life that forced me to take a long, hard, very uncomfortable look at the subject. This was MANY years before the internet or awareness of C word (conspiracy) you resort to… You need to take a closer look at your own bias and why you are so wed to this modality that you’re seemingly afraid
    to criticize it, EVEN when the revelations or criticisms come from internal sources. Are you even aware of the devastating internal confidential report re. Infanrix Hexa
    and the hundreds of conditions (including death) that its been linked to in GSK’s own report????
    You speak of evidence but call my mentioning that trials use non-inert “placebos” “allegations.” Bottom line is this, provide the long-term, transparent studies comprehensively comparing the broad health of fully vaccinated populations with fully unvaccinated populations, and then we’ll talk. Those studies doing so with dogs and primates yielded devastating results…

  • You have been reading to much of the denialist blogging rags, Gorski and leftbrainright brain! Those publications simply speculate and spin the numbers any way they choose to and come out with a different and favorable outcome to them. The said study obviously showed no such thing as you claim to.

    We do not even need to focus on that study, because there are dozens of physiological studies to show the more harm than good of vaccines, and the connections as well to ASD. I am not here to attempt to educate you any further, when you have already so much here in front of you.

    Furthermore, the CDC could easily do an unvaccinated verses fully vaccinated, health outcome study, if they wanted to. Dr Eisenstein has had thousands and thousands of unvaccinated families through the years at Homefirst Medical Community, and without any autism, and there are other large Amish communities as well.

    Just because a small group of them decided to vaccinate and ended up at a clinic trying to treat autism, does not mean the entire Amish community vaccinates, nor should that situation ever have been majorly lied about and exploited the way it was by the pro-vaccine harm denialist’s. There are as well increasing numbers of families in the US with vaccine exemptions; so don’t tell me the CDC has to use children for that study, that would need to intentionally go without vaccines. The CDC is clearly and obviously scared to do that study, as they already know what it will find; and will avoid doing it forever, if they can.

    http://www.homefirst.com/

    Vaccinated Children Two And A Half Times More Likely To Have Neurological Disorders Like ADHD And Autism, New Survey In California And Oregon Finds
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/75333.php

    14 Studies
    http://www.fourteenstudies.org/ourstudies.html

    California-Oregon-Unvaccinated Children Survey
    http://www.rense.com/general78/unvac.htm

  • The National Cancer Institute is nothing but the right arm of the cancer industry and pharma, just like the American Cancer Society. Don’t count on them for anything real in and as to their studies. If they figured out the actual causation of cancer, they wouldn’t be able to treat it in their billion dollar industry. A cancer industry that remains largely failed for the same reason.

    Scientific proof that the known cancer causing SV40 virus, a previous contaminant in the polio vaccine, is obviously either contagious; or the virus is still in the vaccine/s.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/scientific-proof-that-the-known-cancer-causing-sv40-virus-a-previous-contaminant-in-the-polio-vaccine-is-obviously-either-contagious-or-the-virus-is-still-in-the-vaccines.html

    The polio vaccine: a critical assessment of its arcane history, efficacy, and long-term health-related consequences http://www.thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

  • Roxanne

    This kind of baseless fear mongering, propaganda and outright intimidation ought to be challenged and exposed. The state does not own your body nor that of your child. I agree with Meredith that these so-called “professionals”
    need to be named and called out for their unethical practices.

  • Roxanne

    Wise choice. Tell the doc. to take that thimerosal containing vaccine and
    roll up his own sleeve and take it, and another for good measure since
    he thinks it’s so benign.

  • Roxanne

    I’ve included this list of studies re. the Hep B Vaccine as an example of the kind of damage that vaccines are implicated in that sadly, the vast
    majority of doctors are ignorant of. Also, bare in mind that when a doctor
    says that vaccine reactions are rare, that the vast majority of Vaccine
    Adverse Events go unreported – perhaps only 1-10% (generous) to
    the lax, voluntary Vaccine Adverse Reporting System. Also, vaccines
    are not monitored for long-term affects such as cancer, auto-immune
    diseases that can take years to manifest.
    ***The Hepatitis B Vaccine and Vision Loss:

    Albitar S, et al. Bilateral retrobulbar optic neuritis with hepatitis B vaccination. Nephrol Dial Transplant. 1997 Oct;12(10):2169-70.

    Achiron LR, et al. Postinfectious hepatitis B optic neuritis. Optom Vis Sci 1994;71:53-6. Arya SC., et al. Ophthalmic complications of vaccines against hepatitis B virus. Int Ophthalmol. 1997;21(3):177-8.

    Baglivo E, et al. Multiple evanescent white dot syndrome after hepatitis B vaccine. Am J Ophthalmol. 1996 Sep;122(3):431-2.

    Berkman N, Benzarti T, Dhaoui R, Mouly P., et al. [Bilateral neuro-papillitis after hepatitis B vaccination] Presse Med. 1996 Sep 28;25(28):1301. French.

    Berkman N. [A case of segmentary unilateral occlusion of the central retinal vein following hepatitis B vaccination]. Presse Med. 1997 Apr 26;26(14):670. French.

    Bourges JL, Pisella PJ, Laurens C, Limon S. [Multifocal placoid epitheliopathy and anti-hepatitis B vaccination] J Fr Ophtalmol. 1998 Nov;21(9):696-700. French.

    Brezin A, et al. Visual loss and eosinophilia after recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Lancet. 1993 Aug 28;342(8870):563-4.

    Brezin AP, Massin-Korobelnik P, Boudin M, Gaudric A, LeHoang P., et al. Acute posterior multifocal placoid pigment epitheliopathy after hepatitis B vaccine. Arch Ophthalmol. 1995 Mar;113(3):297-300.

    Galli M, Morelli R, Casellato A, et al. Retrobulbar optic neuritis in a patient with acute type B hepatitis. Neurol Sci 1986;72:195-200.

    Granel B, et al. [Occlusion of the central retinal vein after vaccination against viral hepatitis B with recombinant vaccines. 4 cases]. Presse Med. 1997 Feb 1;26(2):62-5. French.

    McKibbin M, et al. Bilateral optic neuritis after hepatitis A. J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry. 1995 Apr;58(4):508.

    Voigt U, Baum U, Behrendt W, Hegemann S, Terborg C, Strobel J. [Neuritis of the optic nerve after vaccinations against hepatitis A, hepatitis B and yellow fever] Klin Monatsbl Augenheilkd. 2001 Oct;218(10):688-90. German.

    ***The Hepatitis B Vaccine and Hearing Loss:

    Orlando MP, Masieri S, Pascarella MA, Ciofalo A. Filiaci F, et al, “Sudden hearing loss Consequent to Hepatitis B Vaccination: a case report.” Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences. 1997 Dec 29, 830: 319-321

    Biacabe B, Erminy M, Bonfils P, et al, “A Case of Fluctuant Sensorineural Hearing Loss consequent to Hepatitis B Vaccination: a case report.” Auris Nasus Larynx. 1997 Oct; 24(4): 357-360.

    ***The Hepatitis B Vaccine and Assorted Ailments:

    Herroelen L. de Keyser J. Ebinger G. Central nervous system demyelination after immunization with recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Lancet, 1991 Nov 9; 338 (8776):1174-75.

    Ribera ER. Dutka AJ. Polyneuropathy associated with administration of hepatitis B vaccine. N Engl J Med. 1983 Sep 8;309(10):614-5.

    Snider GB. Gogate SA. A possible systemic reaction to hepatitis B vaccine. JAMA 1985 Mar 1;253(9):1260-1.

    Fried M. Conen D. Conzelmann M. Steinemann E. Uveitis after hepatitis B vaccination. Lancet, 1987 Sep 12;2(8559:631-2.

    Shaw FE Jr. Graham DJ. Guess HA, et al. Postmarketing surveillance for neurologic adverse events reported after hepatitis B vaccination. Experience of the first three years. Am J Epidemiol 1988 Feb;127(s):337-52.

    Biron P. Montpetit P. Infante-Rivard C. Lery L. Myasthenia gravis after general anesthesia and hepatitis B vaccine. Arch Intern Med. 1988 Dec;148(12):2685.

    Goolsby PL. Erythema nodosum after Recombivax HB hepatitis B vaccine. N Engl J Med 1989 Oct;321:1198-9.

    Anonymous, hepatitis B vaccines: reported reactions. World Health Organization Adverse Drug Reaction Bulletin. August 1990.

    Cockwell P. Allen MB. Page R. Vasculitis related to hepatitis B vaccine. BMJ 1990 Dec 1;301(6763):1281.

    Tudela P. Marti S. Bonal J. Systemic lupus erthemoatosus and vaccination against hepatitis B. Nephron 1992 62(2):236.

    Ganry O. Lerailler F. Vercelleto M. Chiffoleau A. Larouse C. Peripheral facial paralysis following vaccination against hepatitis B. Apropos of a case. Therapie. 1992;47:437-438.

    Trevisani F. Gattinara GC. Caraceni P, et al. Transverse myelitis following hepatitis B vaccination. J Hepatol 1993 Sep;19(2):317-8.

    Mahassin F. Algayres JP. Valmary J, et al. Acute myelitis after vaccination against hepatitis B. Presse Med 1993 Dec 18;22(40):1997-8.

    Nadler JP. Multiple sclerosis and hepatitis B vaccination. Clin Infect Dis 1993 Nov:17(5):928-9.

    Brezin A. Lautier-Frau M. Hamedani M. Rogeaux O. Hoang PL. Visual loss and eosinophilia after recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Lancet 1993 Aug 28;342(8870):563-4.

    Trevisian G. Stinco G. Lichen rubber planus following HBV vaccination. Acta Dermato-Venereologica 1993 Feb;73(1):73.

    Castresana-Isla CJ. Herrera-Martinez G. Vega-Molina J. Erythema nodosum and Takayasu’s arteritis after immunization with plasma derived hepatitis B vaccine. J Rheumatol 1993 Aug;20(8):1417-8.

    Allen MB. Cockwell P. Page RL. Pulmonary and cutaneous vasculitis following hepatitis B vaccination. Thorax 1993 May;48(5):580-1.

    Deisenhammer F. Pohl P. Bosch S. Schmidauer C. Acute cerebellar ataxia after immunisation with recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Acta Neurol Scand 1994 Jun;89(6):462-3.

    Vautier G. Carty JE. Acute sero-positive rheumatoid arthritis occurring after hepatitis vaccination. Br J Rheumatol 1994 Oct;33(10):991.

    Hassan W. Oldham R. Reiter’s syndrome and reactive arthritis in health care workers after vaccination. BMJ 1994 Jul 9;309(6967):94.

    Aubin F. Angonin R. Humbert P. Agache P. Lichen planus following hepatitis B vaccination. Archives of Dermatology. 1994 Oct;130(10):1329-30.

    Birley HD. Arya OP. Hepatitis B immunisation and reactive arthritis. BMJ 1994 Dec;309(6967):1514.

    Poullin P. Gabriel B. Thrombocytopenic purpura after recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Lancet 1994 Nov;344(8932):1293.

    Di Lernia V. Lo Scocco G. Bisighini G. Erythema multiforme following hepatitis B vaccine. Ped Derma 1994 Dec;11(4):363-4.

    Fraser PA. Wilson JD. Reiter’s syndrome attributed to hepatitis B immunisation. BMJ 1994 Dec;309(6967):1513.

    Lilic D. Ghosh SK. Liver dysfunction and DNA antibodies after hepatitis B vaccination. Lancet 1994 Nov;344(8932):1292-3.

    Brezin AP. Massin-Korobelnik P. Boudin B., et al. Acute posterior multifocal placoid pigment epitheliopathy after hepatitis B vaccine. Arch Ophthal 1995 Mar;113(3):297-300.

    Gross K. Combe C. Kruger K. Schattenkkirchner M. Arthritis after hepatitis B vaccination. Report of three cases. Scand J Rheumatol. 1995;24(1):50-2.

    Kaplanski G. Retornaz F. Durand J. Soubeyrand J. Central nervous system demyelination after vaccination against hepatitis B and HLA haplotype. J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry 1995 Jun;58(6):758-9.

    Tartaglino LM. Heiman-Patterson T. Friedman DP. Flanders AE. MR imaging in a case of postvaccination myelitis. AJNR Am J Neuroadiol 1995;16(3):581-2.

    Macario F. Freitas L. Correira J., et al. Nephrotic syndrome after recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Clin Nephrol 1995 May;43(5):349.

    Germanaud J. Causse X. Trinh DH., et al. A case of severe cytolysis after hepatitis B vaccination. Amer J Med 1995 Jun;98(6):595-6.

    Meyboom RH. Fucik H. Edwards IR. Thrombocytopenia reported in association with hepatitis B and A vaccines. Lancet 1995 Jun;345(8965):1638.

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  • Ancient Illyria

    Anyone who claims information is “denied to the public” is lying.

  • Ancient Illyria

    Actually, what goes on with the nurse is between her and the hospital, no one else needs to know. Indeed, it would be a breach of the nurses privacy to let us know what was done.

    You use very emotive words in an inaccurate way. Poor parenting leads to government intervention in the best interests of the child. Sadly, too many people think that children are their property, to be used for any agenda that they might be pushing. THAT is the world in which we live.

  • Christine P. S.

    Injection and digestion are not the same thing. Dr. Chris Shaw with a brief comment – go to the 2:30 point http://onemoregirlmovie.com/?page_id=74

  • Ancient Illyria

    now, break down all your “facts and figures” to vaccination only, and then break down cost v income. Playing with figures you don’t understand proves nothing.

  • Ancient Illyria

    Using opinion based web blogs run by people with no medical / scientific training as evidence is a problem.

  • Ancient Illyria

    He is right to ignore fictional characters.

  • Ancient Illyria

    You are absolutely incorrect. There is absolute proof that HPV vaccine prevents cancer. I’m not sure why you think that only addressing several strains of HPV makes the vaccine irrelevant.

    Indeed, your understanding of cervical cancer is sadly lacking. How about you educate yourself?

  • Ancient Illyria

    You make a lot of statements Roxanne but you are vacant on evidence. Nutrition and sanitation were 2 of the big 3 that improved our lives, the biggest of course being vaccination as the evidence supports. Not your anti vax fabricated evidence, the real sciency wiency stuff that you ignore.

    Australia has never had an issue with sanitation and nutrition. Countries such as Australia show your opinion to be unsupported by fact.

  • Ancient Illyria

    You cannot use website blogs to support your opinion and expect to be taken seriously. No one doubts the positive effects of nutrition and sanitation, but they are only 2 of the 3 factors involved. You continue to ignore the issue of vaccination, as well as morbidity, only focusing on mortality. A rookie mistake.

  • Ancient Illyria

    Well of course you cannot focus on the actual facts, as they don’t support your opinion.

  • Ancient Illyria

    When you cannot support your opinion with evidence, attack the person.

  • Ancient Illyria

    WTF are you on? You complete fool.

  • Ancient Illyria

    Did you think that all he was missing was the white hood during that rant ?

  • Ancient Illyria

    I haven’t seen an single evidence based comment from you, so it is you who is wasting everyone elses time.

  • Ancient Illyria

    If you want a laugh, go youtube his little screeching rant against Piers Morgan. o_O He got so angry he couldn’t get his story straight .. it’s a hoot.

  • Ancient Illyria

    Before getting in contact with him, make sure you google him.

  • Ancient Illyria

    You circumcised a child at 2 years of age? o_O Why?

  • Ancient Illyria

    How about instead of these never ending stories we get some evidence.

  • DocJJ

    I can see that your goal with these questions is to point out the fact that I am not specially trained in immunology/virology/statistics. In fact, vaccination is only a small part of the scope of my practice in primary care. I consider it to be an important one because my “specialty” focuses on prevention of disease in all forms. As a primary provider who is expected to know “a little about a lot” (and I oversimplify what is expected of me in my job on a daily basis), I spend time seeing patients, reviewing labs, dealing with insurance debacles, etc. Because those things take up the 60+ hours I work in a week, it is not feasible, nor practical for me to have the knowledge you are speaking of. I know your first response will be, “AHA! You recommend vaccines that you do not understand!” But, from my perspective, the detail involved in medicine is endless and one person cannot know all of these things, no matter how well read or educated they are. I HAVE to rely on larger organizations to give me recommendations and guidelines that are based, granted in their opinion, on legitimate scientific evidence. Actually, most of medicine is practiced by guidelines and recommendations that come from bodies like the CDC, and in my case, the AAFP, the AAP, etc. They have physicians and researchers whose sole job is to review the medical literature and find what is clinically relevant and pass it along to the doctors on the front line. I do not know what your training or background is, but unless you are a trained statistician or primary researcher, I would not think you are able to read a primary research paper and challenge the conclusions that the authors draw. From what I have read on here, you all cite books written by other “doctors” that take what they have read about vaccines and generalize it and come to their own conclusions, so you are doing exactly what I do when I read a summary of a study or formal practice guidelines, etc, except the people you are taking your cues from have no credibility in the established medical field. You can honestly make your argument sound very good, but it is based in a significant amount personal bias. I cannot sit here and write citations of articles that prove you to be wrong. There are others that have that job, and in the end, we all have to trust someone. Otherwise, everything we do in medicine is bull, and like my previous post, if that’s what you believe, then you shouldn’t be seeking care in mainstream medicine. I never mind reassuring patients who are cautious about vaccinating their children. However, in the end, the best I can tell them is that everything I have been taught and everyone I associate with on a professional basis believes them to be safer than not vaccinating and that I vaccinate my own children with that same understanding. My opinion is supported by an larger degree of scientific evidence, by significant scientific research that has been challenged multiple times over the years, and yet, people like you go about filling the less educated with these ideas that prey on their natural fears about this topic. What gives you the right to do that? You have to realize, I am fine with your opinion, don’t vaccinate yourself or your children, it’s your choice, but don’t come to me and expect me to agree with you or support your decision, when it stands against everything I believe. We have to agree to disagree. But, you take your biased and unsupported ideas and put them out there for every scared person who goes on google and encourage them to challenge the mainstream and put their children and public health at harm, and frankly, that ticks me off!

  • No – I’m asking for you to simply answer my questions in a plain manner.

  • DocJJ

    1. I have partially read some vaccine inserts when the need arises, for example, looking up off schedule vaccine administration intervals, etc.
    2. I have never witnessed a “serious adverse reaction” to a vaccine in my practice. The most I have seen are fevers, minor local injection site reactions, and the occasional rash, usually from the varicella vaccine.
    3. encephalitis is encephalitis, no matter what the etiology. It is merely a term referring to inflammation of the brain. Clinically, there is no difference. Obviously, the causative agent may dictate treatment variations, but mostly it is viral. I have never seen a real case of measles nor have I seen a case of encephalitis deemed to be caused by the measles vaccine. It is possible that mild cases would be classified as a “viral syndrome” and self limited, so would not ever be diagnosed as encephalitis.

  • For #2 – I am asking what tests would you perform if you suspected an adverse reaction to vaccines.

  • DocJJ

    Any workup would be symptom driven, so there is not a generic answer to this. I would need an example of the type of reaction you would be referring to. The reactions I have seen would not prompt any additional work up in my opinion.

  • How about cranial nerve palsy?

  • But I guess the even bigger question would be you even considering the possibility?

  • DocJJ

    It would not be at the top of my list, but if no other answers and the timeline fit, I would consider it as a possibility.

  • DocJJ

    If it were a Bell’s Palsy, I would look for lyme’s disease first. If it were another cranial nerve palsy, I would be seeking the opinion of a pediatric neurologist and likely the child would be undergoing an MRI of the brain. If it was an adult, I would likely rule out the lyme’s diseae (as above), which is a simple blood test, and Bell’s Palsy is usually self limited and improves quickly. If it were another palsy, I would go ahead an image the brain and if normal, would likely refer to a neurologist. Bell’s Palsy it he most common cranial nerve palsy I see and I see maybe 3 cases a year, the only other time I have seen others is associated with strokes in adults or tumors.

  • ourinstantmatter

    As a physician you are fully aware that you are not economically liable for any adverse reactions that your patients might suffer including death as a result of that vaccination. You, the vaccine court, vaccine manufacturers, and all educated people(re: vaccines) do know that a certain number of children each year will die or be permanently damaged as a result of adverse vaccine reactions. This being the case, will you commit to taking care of any child that you vaccinate which then leads to permanent physical or cognitive impairment / disability? Will you, an MD, pay for the care, out of your own pocket, for any child that is damaged by a vaccine you administer?

  • I think this is my point.

    Your perception of parents who speak out against vaccines are likely encapsulated earlier in this article. But, what many health professionals fail to realize is most parents who speak out against vaccines have vaccine-injured children… and we, too, once “believed” in vaccines.

    There are no measures before and after vaccination.

    I trust you can understand the significance of a study using measures like this:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3204610/

    And – my final challenge to you, Sir, is for you to go to any reputable journal and find a vaccine efficacy study. If you can find the raw data used for the studies which could be used to replicate the results of the study, please contact me immediately.

  • Here is a reference for my cranial nerve reference.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2944153/

  • elnura

    Dr. Brian Hooker has been waiting 8 years for the data from the Denmark Study under the FOIA from the CDC and the vaccine industry and even under court order, the CDC and vaccine industry WILL NOT release the data. Yes, in the world on the Medical Mafia-public access to information is the norm, not a exception. Also, Congress requested years ago that the CDC/Vaccine industry do a study comparing the health of unvaccinated children to vaccinated children and the CDC/Vaccine Industry has refused. The Medical Mafia has requested the assistance of Kathleen Sibelius to convince the necessary parties to quietly pass a law or some legal out where vaccine industries are exempt from the FOIA. Think Twice and Whale websites have numerous links to Congressional Hearings transcripts that provided information that MSM never reports on. “Denied to the Public” is the NORM.

    FYI: Dr. Hooker continues to file FOIA to the CDC/Vaccine Industry and they ignore them. Also, Congressman David Weldon, M.D.office had to file a FOIA to obtain the transcripts of the
    Scientific Review of Vaccine Safety Datalink Information. ” This conference, held on June 7-8, 2000, at Simpsonwood Retreat Center in Norcross, Georgia, assembled 51 scientists and

    physicians, five of whom represented vaccine manufacturers. These included Smith Kline Beecham, Merck, Wyeth, North American Vaccine and Aventis Pasteur. This is also know as the Simpsonwood Transcripts. The focus of this conference was to disclose to the industry as a whole the significant correlation between the rise in Autism, autoimmune diseases, neurological diseases and deaths with mercury laden vaccines and the rise in the number of vaccines given. It was also discussed how the industry and government were going to cover this up because of profit loss rather than fix it. Public was not suppose to ever know that this secret meeting took place and it’s stated so because they did not want this information to fall into the wrong hands. DENIED TO PUBLIC!

    FYI: 1 child in 50 in America is on the Autism Spectrum as reported by the CDC.

  • elnura

    As a physician can you provide a Independent double-blind, placebo-controlled study that can prove the safety and effectiveness of vaccines?

    Can you also provide provide scientific evidence on ANY study which can confirm the long-term safety and effectiveness of vaccines?

    Can you provide scientific evidence which can prove that disease reduction in any part of the world, at any point in history was attributable to inoculation of populations?

    Can you provide provide scientific justification as
    to how injecting a human being with a confirmed neurotoxin is beneficial to human health and prevents disease? The toxins I am speaking of (via text) are:

    Aluminum
    Thimerosal
    Squalene
    Sodium borate
    Formaldehyde
    Sodium deoxycholate
    Tween 80
    Triton X-100
    Bovine cells
    Human fetal cells
    Gelatin
    Methiolate
    Monkey kidney cells
    MSG

    These are listed ingredients in vaccines on the CDC’s website.

  • ourinstantmatter

    “I have partially read some vaccine inserts when the need arises,” Why would you not read the entire vaccine insert for all vaccines you administer? Consider this story regarding the significance of a vaccine insert: pediatrician Richard Cartie (HCA owned Doctors Hospital Augusta Georgia) was so concerned that a two year old child’s life was in danger without a tetanus vaccine that he had the child kidnapped by Georgia State government lackeys, force vaccinated, terrorized the entire family, where after the child was physically neglected and harmed while in State custody. “First do no harm” was not an oath Dr. Cartie was going to honor that day. After being taken by at gunpoint by Doctors Hospital medical staff Dr. Cartie ordered the child be given the DT vaccine made by Sanofi Pasteur. Pasteur’s own document on page two well indicates, “This vaccine is NOT to be used for the treatment of diphtheria or tetanus infection.”. Dr. Cartie suspected that the child had tetanus and by force administered a vaccine which clearly should not be administered had the child had tetanus according to the vaccine insert which this pediatrician also did not read. What on earth are you thinking administering any vaccine and not reading all available info including the vaccine makers own literature? Again, MD’s appear not to be bothered by actual scientific info or info put out by the vaccine maker themselves. And we the public are supposed to trust those nurses and MD’s which vaccinate? Nurses and MD’s are demonstrating medical incompetence, and willful ignorance about the medical procedures they insist upon!

    Why do you vaccinate children with DT when the DT maker clearly states on page 4, “CARCINOGENESIS, MUTAGENESIS, IMPAIRMENT OF FERTILITY No studies have been performed to evaluate carcinogenicity, mutagenic potential, or impact on fertility.”?

    Consider this surgeon’s appropriate response to the travesty just described:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/138952717/Formal-Complaint-filed-with-the-Georgia-Medical-Board

  • ourinstantmatter

    “Sadly, too many people think that children are their property, to be used for any agenda that they might be pushing.” Doctors and the government officials most definitely presume that other peoples’ children are theirs(the doctors and officials) to do with that which they please. Many children in the custody of Georgia State have bee murdered and the state freely admits this:http://www.macon.com/2013/05/06/2467554/dfcs-report-no-of-child-deaths.html. Again State employees are unfit parents and seek only the federal funds attendant with each child they kidnap. Yes, each child is kidnapped according to statutory definition and completely without a warrant of seizure as is required by the 4th amendment. In Georgia, the top Law enforcement officer, Governor Nathan Deal, allows these crimes to go on unrestricted and unpunished(making him culpable). As a result many of the State kidnapped children are brutalized, tortured, raped, and sometimes murdered while in custody. The entire Georgia government is in it for the federal funds they glean from breaking the Law. Force and fraud is government. No more. No less.

  • elnura

    http://sanevax.org/vaccine-manufacturers-documents-show-hpv-vaccines-may-induce-seizures/

    http://www.whale.to/vaccine/Gardasilrisks.pdf

    GARDASIL VACCINATION:
    EVALUATING THE RISKS VERSUS BENEFITS
    Lucija Tomljenovic, PhD, Neural Dynamics Research Group, Dept. of Ophthalmology,
    University of British Columbia, 828 W. 10th Ave, Vancouver, BC
    -Death after Quadrivalent Human Papillomavirus (HPV) Vaccination:Causal or Coincidental? http://www.omicsgroup.org/journals/death-after-quadrivalent-human-papillomavirus-hpv-vaccination-causal-or-coincidental-2167-7689.S12-001.php?aid=9036

    -UBC researchers advocate HPV vaccine scrutiny http://www.straight.com/life/ubc-researchers-advocate-hpv-vaccine-scrutiny

    -Spain Withdraws HPV Vaccine Gardasil after Two
    Hospitalizations http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/02/spain-withdraws-merck-gardasil-vaccine-after-illnesses.html#more

    -Vaccine manufacturer’s documents show HPV vaccines may induce seizures: http://sanevax.org/vaccine-manufacturers-documents-show-hpv-vaccines-may-induce-seizures/

    -Health ministry withdraws recommendation for cervical cancer vaccine http://ajw.asahi.com/article/behind_news/social_affairs/AJ201306150057

    -HPV Vaccines Exposed: Subterfuge in a Syringe?
    http://sanevax.org/hpv-vaccines-exposed-subterfuge-syringe/

    -Israel: Citizens Request Ban of HPV Vaccines http://sanevax.org/israel-citizens-request-hpv-vaccineban/

    -HPV vaccine advertising is being pulled due to claims of false advertising: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/hpv_vaccine111.html

    India has also stopped giving the injections since in the trials that were done there 4 young girls died.

    What I find interesting and disturbing about the Scandinavia study is none of the researchers list their professional affiliations. I’m researching that now but most studies, if you research the people involved you can find out what organizations they have belonged to or are in association with. I also can’t find out who funded the study. This information goes a long way to determine professional bias. Information pending.

  • Concerned citizen

    If you decide that it’s a good idea to expose your children to the serious risks of measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough, tetanus, polio, etc,
    and totally jeopardize herd immunity,
    And you think you are more educated of the risks than tens of thousands of medical professionals,
    Then you really are kind of a loser.

  • Wow, you’re defending this nurse’s emotional immaturity?

  • ourinstantmatter

    Does the nurse’s message, “Loser” directed toward a patient’s parents seeking emergency medical care qualify as a medical professional?

    Do you have any evidence to substantiate “herd immunity”? If so, the please provide a link to that evidence.

    The vaccine court has awarded near $3B to vaccine injured people. Is this because vaccines are risk free?

    If 100,000 or more people share the same opinion does that opinion become truth?

  • Roxanne

    The placebos are listed in the product monograph which are
    provided above. These are written by the company in question not by “opinion” bloggers.

  • Roxanne

    Yeah, right… Like the Simpsonwood Conference?!… or

    “The issue of possible simian cytomegalovirus (SCMV) contamination of live polio virus vaccines has been suppressed since 1972. (This is an issue aside from the SV 40 above that was supposed to be removed in the early 70s) On the eve of Nixon’s “war on cancer”, a joint Lederle Corporation/FDA Bureau of Biologics study showed that eleven test monkeys, imported for polio vaccine production tested positively for SCMV. The reluctance of the FDA to act on this matter was revealed in a corporate memo delivered the following year. Even in 1995, following a report to FDA officials concerning a patient infected with SCMV-delivered virus, no new in-house testing of polio vaccines for SCMV has occurred. Moreover, this authors request for vaccine material to undertake specific testing were denied on the basis of protecting “proprietary” interests.”

    W. John Martin, MD, PhD, Founder, Center for Complex Diseases

    “From 1995 through late 2002, I served as a Research Analyst in a program supported by a grant from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control designed to study the effects of this newly licensed vaccine…Several years after the program began positive aspects of vaccination program were allowed to be published. However, data I collected suggesting adverse events were being handled quite differently. A preliminary trend suggested that the vaccination itself might have the potential to spawn widespread epidemic among adults of a disease far more serious than the one being inoculated against. When CDC affiliated health authorities learned this, they began to take action, including legal steps to prevent my making these findings known to the public and scientific community.”
    Gary Goldman PhD discussing his research findings on the Chickenpox Vaccine.

  • Roxanne

    Doc JJ, I realize you are busy with your practice and from your perspective you are trying to do the right thing for your patients but I have to ask you: Does it bother you that the organizations you turn to such as the CDC, the AAP have disturbing conflicts of interest and are not the independent, objective bodies that you trust them to be? These aren’t my allegations out of thin air but shown in media reports investigating such links…. As importantly, does it trouble you that professionals who raise serious concerns re. vaccinations have been silenced, penalized for doing so, lost research funding etc.? This doesn’t bode well for transparent and necessary discourse. What about when information is secreted from the public such as the Simpsonwood Conference?… In a comment further down, I queried re. the “science” of using non-inert “placebos” etc., which I backed up with monographs directly from the companies themselves, and didn’t hear back. I realize you’re busy but hope you will seriously ponder these questions especially as the medical system is sadly subject, as with other things, to the politics of power and profit.

  • what?

    This is quite the admission..I have read the vaccine inserts when the need arises. Hello, in order to get fully informed consent to vaccinate, you the MD vaccinator must be fully informed firstly so as to be able to convey the information to the patient. The vaccine insert is mandatory knowledge on the part of the doctor and patient and you a doctor freely admit to not fully reading a vaccine makers docs. Are you comfortable injecting a patient while being less than fully informed about that medical procedure ?

  • Roxanne

    Are you defending the revolving door? If so, it speaks volumes about you.

  • Roxanne

    Good comment… I’m sure Ancient Illyria will twist his/her knickers in a knot to deviate from addressing the above!

  • elnura

    Thank you. I’m almost sure Ancient Illyria is a paid troll.

  • elnura

    I have read the vaccine inserts when the need arises.

    Informed consent is a Federal Law. You as the physician are suppose to inform the patient/parents of all adverse effects, what the vaccine is for, the rate of success of the vaccine, how many children have suffered side effect, what those side effects are, how many have died, what are the chances of death if the vaccine is given, what are the chances of side effect, what are the pros and cons, what is the effectiveness rate of the vaccine etc. It’s the law.

  • Lou

    Sir please take a few hours and learn the truth about one “vaccine” foisted on us.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_flu_shot_intro.htm

  • elnura

    Can you provide the name of this study. The link you provided is broken.

  • Lou

    Doctor

    Please direct me to a clinical study of significant power and duration by a non-interested party (NOT the CDC or Big Vaccination) that demonstrates ANY “vaccine” confers more benefit than harm.

    In forty years of trying I have YET to be presented with a single clinical study that shows “vaccines” to be anymore than a deadly scam.

    The FDA does not require that a “vaccine” works, antigen-antibody affinity. Why is this so Doctor? Should not a “vaccine” be required to work?

    Doctor please take a hard critical look at your wonderful “vaccination”. You just may learn something very important to your patients, especially your very young patients.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vaccine.htm

  • elnura

    A rookie mistake.

    So you are a troll. Also, WHOCARES09.

  • Lou

    “Because those things take up the 60+ hours I work in a week, it is not
    feasible, nor practical for me to have the knowledge you are speaking
    of.”

    Perhaps, respectfully, Doctor you should not recommend a potentially deadly procedure like “vaccination” without being 100% sure you are not harming your patients. Please direct your patients “vaccine” inquiries to one who has extensive “vaccine” knowledge.

    We do have “internet moms” who do have the time and.incentive; they have autistic children, to learn enough about “vaccination”, far more than most pediatricians, to be able to recover their autistic children and PREVENT autism and the ASDs in their family forever.

    Their simple solution to preventing autism, the ASDs and ALL the diseases of “vaccination is to NOT VACCINATE.

    The Autism epidemic is found in all countries that have allowed mass vaccinations. It is found nowhere else.

    http://undergrounddocumentaries.com/autism-made-in-america-full-version/

  • Lou

    “I have never witnessed a “serious adverse reaction” to a vaccine in my practice.”

    Has a child you have “vaccinated” died of SIDS?

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_SIDS.htm

  • Lou

    Oh I don’t see why if the researcher approaches “vaccination” with a tabula rasa and not the “vaccines are good” brainwashed attitude that prevails in the Medical community.

    You would be surprised at the superior results some “internet moms” have achieved. Organized Medicine has demonstrated NO interest in efficaciously treating autism. The “internet moms” are well on the path to exposing the “vaccination” deadly scam and thus preventing autism, the ASDs and all the diseases of “vaccination”.

    My guess is the next step in FORCED “vaccination” is to ban the “internet moms”..

  • Argus

    “Yes, in the world on the Medical Mafia-public access to information is the norm, not a exception.”
    Gibberish. Who is the “medical mafia”, anyway?
    And just where would one send an FOIA request directed to “the vaccine industry”? Can you supply their office address?
    Hilarious. And ignorant.

  • Argus

    You won’t find truth at a bizarre website like that one.

  • Argus

    And what if he isn’t?

  • Argus

    The link is not broken. But here is the citation if you care to look it up yourself:

    BMJ 2013;347:f5906

  • Care to state who is your employer, Argus?

  • TC

    Took my 11 year old daughter to our new pediatrician after our move. When I graciously turned down the Gardisil vaccine, she asked why, I shared with her my concerns and assured her I would stay on top of the updates and information and again said, “no thank you”. She whipped out a big colorful laminated chart showing Picts of warts and cervical cancers, handed it to my daughter and said, “maybe this will change your mom’s mind”. Needless to say, we ended that appt right then and there.

  • Roxanne

    Note, that Argus doesn’t actually address the issues raised re. the Simpsonwood Conference by Elnura. Could he prey tell be ignorant re. such?!

  • Roxanne

    Wow, so you have a crystal ball and magic wand whereby you can access with actual, hard real world data years in advance comparing cancer rates between those who received Gardasil and those who didn’t, to
    “absolutely prove” that Gardasil prevents cancer!
    Perhaps you should use your crystal ball to monitor auto-immune and other conditions that may arise from Gardasil, since God knows no one else pushing the vaccine will.
    Not that you’d be interested in anything that challenges the
    church of vaccinology but a few excerpts from an article:
    ‘HPV: Cervical Cancer Vaccine’ at the VRAN site. Please
    note the comments include those who work within the
    medical system like Dr. Unger and Dr. Harper….

    Dr Elizabeth Unger of the US CDC stated at FDA discussions: “it is believed that infection alone is insufficient to cause cancer…There are certainly lots of questions about HPV infection.” And the medical text book, Cancer: Principles & Practice of Oncology, acknowledges, ***“HPV infection is not sufficient for cervical carcinogenesis” and, amazingly: “In most studies, HPV status was not a strong prognosticator of outcome in cervical cancer patients; however, there appears to be a trend for HPV-negative tumors to do worse…those tumors containing HPV DNA tend to be of an early stage and low grade.” Investigative journalist, Janine Roberts notes that “virus-like particles”, not HPV itself, are present in the vaccine. In her article, ‘HPV Vaccine Mysteries’ she cites a statement by the International Agency for Research on Cancer that HPV “cannot be propagated in tissue culture”, not even cervical cancer tissue, but must be made by cloning. And, in her article, ‘Not So Miraculous’, Moira Dolan, MD, Executive Director of Medical Accountability Network, reveals that, ***“Some researchers and FDA scientists wonder if the abnormal cells (cancerous or pre-cancerous) may simply be a friendly environment for viruses to grow around, so the virus infection may occur after the changes that cause cancer rather than the other way around.” (Re.)…the findings of a study by Dr Maria Bell of Louisiana State University published in the August 2000 Gynecologic Oncology. Cervical cancer completely disappeared in 47% of women who consumed 400mg/day of a supplement containing indole-3-carbinol extracted from broccoli; women receiving a placebo showed no change at all in their cancers. It’s also interesting to note that only 80% of the cervical cancer patients in this study tested positive for HPV….In pre-licensing safety trials of HPV vaccine, a sub-set of women who had tested positive for one or both of the “oncogenic” HPVs represented in the vaccine showed a 44.6% increased risk of developing high-grade (later stage) precancerous lesions following vaccination.

    As of October, 2010, VAERS had received 88 reports of death following injection of Gardasil®. See: VAERS: Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System—Search for “HPV4″ and “Patient Died”. As of December, 2010, it had received 371 reports of life threatening adverse events following Gardasil® injection. See: VAERS: Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System—Search for “HPV4″ and “Life Threatening”. Less serious events have included paralysis, seizures, arthritis, fainting, dizziness, nausea, headache and cases of genital warts (which the vaccine is also supposed to prevent). ***Dr Diane Harper, lead researcher in the development of HPV vaccine, has summarized a 2009 Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) report which questions the vaccine’s safety by saying, “The rate of serious adverse events is greater than the incidence of cervical cancer.” This statement is repeated in the January, 2011 report, Gardasil Vaccination: Evaluating the Risks Versus Benefits by Lucija Tomljenovic, PhD. Dr Tomljenovic has analyzed the VAERS reports and compared them to the many health conditions that science research has shown possible from Gardasil®. She notes that some doctors and others don’t even know VAERS exists and most are unaware of all the injuries that are possible. (only a small fraction of adverse events ever gets reported) This, she says, means that the 20,915 VAERS Gardasil® incidents reported at the time she wrote her article could in fact indicate “as many as 200,000 to 2,000,000 adverse reactions”. Among the VAERS reports were listed “382 abnormal pap tests”. Dr Tomljenovic asks, “Could the vaccine exacerbate the very disease it is claimed to prevent?” Allowing for this possibility, the May 2011 Gardasil® monograph, pg 54 admits: “Gardasil® has not been evaluated for the potential to cause carcinogenicity or genotoxicity.” If HPV does play a role in causing cancer, it’s possible that vaccinating against it will give rise to an increase in cervical cancer. This could arise due to replacement of HPV types suppressed by the vaccine with cancer-related types of the other 150 or more HPVs that are known to exist. In an article originally published on medscape.com, Sharmila Makhija, MD, principle investigator for Gardasil trials, noted such a possiblilty. Health authorities Canada-wide have been declaring that the two so-called “oncogenic” HPV types represented in Gardasil® are responsible for 70% of all cervical cancer. They are echoing the 2007 NACI Statement which, on pg 2 cites a 1998 Health Canada surveillance report as their only reference for this, and, on pg 4 admits, “to date, no population-based studies have been published.” A study estimating the prevalence of HPV infection in the US population published in the Feb 28, 2007 edition of JAMA found only 3.4% of women aged 14-59 yrs were infected with one of the four HPV types represented in Gardasil®; only 2% were infected with one of the two “oncogenic” types…

  • Roxanne

    Excerpt from The Science of Vaccine Damage by Catherine O’Driscoll
    A team at Purdue University School of Veterinary Medicine conducted several studies (1,2) to determine if vaccines can cause changes in the immune system of dogs that might lead to life-threatening immune-mediated diseases…

    The vaccinated, but not the non-vaccinated, dogs in the Purdue studies developed autoantibodies to many of their own biochemicals, including fibronectin, laminin, DNA, albumin, cytochrome C, cardiolipin and collagen.

    This means that the vaccinated dogs — ”but not the non-vaccinated dogs”– were attacking their own fibronectin, which is involved in tissue repair, cell multiplication and growth, and differentiation between tissues and organs in a living organism.

    The vaccinated Purdue dogs also developed autoantibodies to laminin, which is involved in many cellular activities including the adhesion, spreading, differentiation, proliferation and movement of cells. Vaccines thus appear to be capable of removing the natural intelligence of cells.

    Autoantibodies to cardiolipin are frequently found in patients with the serious disease systemic lupus erythematosus and also in individuals with other autoimmune diseases. The presence of elevated anti-cardiolipin antibodies is significantly associated with clots within the heart or blood vessels, in poor blood clotting, haemorrhage, bleeding into the skin, foetal loss and neurological conditions.

    The Purdue studies also found that vaccinated dogs were developing autoantibodies to their own collagen. About one quarter of all the protein in the body is collagen. Collagen provides structure to our bodies, protecting and supporting the softer tissues and connecting them with the skeleton. It is no wonder that Canine Health Concern’s 1997 study of 4,000 dogs showed a high number of dogs developing mobility problems shortly after they were vaccinated (noted in my 1997 book, What Vets Don’t Tell You About Vaccines).

    Perhaps most worryingly, the Purdue studies found that the vaccinated dogs had developed autoantibodies to their own DNA. Did the alarm bells sound? Did the scientific community call a halt to the vaccination program? No. Instead, they stuck their fingers in the air, saying more research is needed to ascertain whether vaccines can cause genetic damage. Meanwhile, the study dogs were found good homes, but no long-term follow-up has been conducted. At around the same time, the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) Vaccine-Associated Feline Sarcoma Task Force initiated several studies to find out why 160,000 cats each year in the USA develop terminal cancer at their vaccine injection sites.(3) The fact that cats can get vaccine-induced cancer has been acknowledged by veterinary bodies around the world, and even the British Government acknowledged it through its Working Group charged with the task of looking into canine and feline vaccines(4) following pressure from Canine Health Concern…

  • elnura

    You are
    proof that God has a sense of humor.

  • Roxanne

    Good point… Don’t look, don’t find, don’t report… that’s the vaccine “science”
    we are supposed to gobble up. See the comment I posted re. the University of Purdue study.

  • elnura

    It’s
    kinda sad watching you attempt to fit your entire vocabulary into a
    sentence.

  • elnura

    Shock me, say something intelligent.

  • Tess57

    Name calling always seem to be the default of those in the
    wrong.

  • elnura

    I like to say name calling is the last refuge of the out-argued. It’s also a primary troll tactic. It’s to distract from the content being discussed and divert it to something else. The response they are looking for is anger and when you’re angry you don’t think clearly. There are many good website on trolling tactics and how they use the principles of miss-information to disrupt discussion boards. I noticed on this board the second wave has arrived.

  • Concerned citizen

    The pediatrician did the right thing, given how prevalent HPV and cervical cancer are.

  • Concerned citizen

    What a joke. It’s unfortunate how gullible you are.

    And I am hardly a ‘sir,’ you sexist prick.

  • Concerned citizen

    Her actions were unprofessional, but it’s the parents who are committing the real crime here by not protecting their children and other children from the threat of easily preventable diseases.

  • Concerned citizen

    Apparently we need to experience another polio epidemic for people to truly appreciate the work of vaccines in modern medicine.

  • George Lorenz

    You are a moron if you are not immunizing your child. You risk everyone with your lack of education. The mother in this story was poor white trash, and apparently happy to stay in that position.

  • Crazy

    at first glance I thought a little Darwinism thinning the lower end of the gene pools could be healthy…. Then I think hey… how many normal people could they take out with ignorance.

  • wiseass

    People that don’t vaccinate their children are cruel. They open them up to the most cruel torture and suffering from diseases that vaccines can simply prevent or lessen the burden of disease. Many children die from the simplest of disease. Most because they have no access to the vaccines needed, and many because their parents are too ignorant to give them to their children.

    The link between autism and vaccine is really less than minimal. There seems to be a much bigger link to pollution, age of mother, pitocin use, or a genetic disorder …

    Not vaccinating is leading to the decrease in herd immunity in our society and effectively signing your own children’s death warrant.

    I hope that those of you that do not vaccinate your children, and if they come down with something preventable …. I hope you all suffer 10 fold what they do. It’s your duty to protect them, not allow them to suffer. You’re very sick and cruel. It’s disgusting, beyond disgusting.

  • elnura

    Roxanne when someone says you are engaging in a conspiracy theory, embrace it. Pro-vac, trolls, vaccine apologist throw that out as if it something to be ashamed of. This demonstrates their ignorance in how and why the phase was developed. Its a term the CIA came up with during the Warren commission that was suppose to be investigating the assassination of President Kennedy. When they came up with the Lone Gunman myth and the magic bullet, too many people began questioning the investigation and than in New Orleans Jim Garrison began his investigation and started naming other people involved, the CIA wanted the public to not listen to alternative theories so they asked the media to saturate the country with the phrase “conspiracy theory” in regards to those people who didn’t believe the outcome of the Warren commission and those who believed Jim Garrisons’ investigation. So Conspiracy Theory is what the Vaccine Industry, CDC, WHO, IOM, Gates Foundation and other are actually engaged in-they are covering up the truth. They are the liars and are covering up the truth from the masses.

    “It also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware the people around us are of what is really happening to them.” Hitler

  • Argus

    Clearly I must work for the “medical mafia”. Can’t you tell?

  • Lou

    Are you aware that “vaccination” does NOT confer immunity? Most people are not aware of this very important FACT in the great “vaccination” debate.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_natural_immunity.htm

  • Lou

    Good for you. FEAR based “medicine” has no place in a civilized society.

  • Lou

    Well with Simpsonwood not only was the truth DENIED us but the data was CHANGED to present us with a LIE.

  • Lou
  • Lou
  • elnura

    Polio vaccine–BIG FAILURE. Never worked. Caused Polio;

    “In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk who developed the first polio vaccine, testified along with other scientists, that mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA since 1961. (Science 4/4/77 “Abstracts” –Control of influenza and poliomyelitis
    with killed virus vaccines)

    The United States Centre for Disease Control (CDC) admitted that the vaccine has become the dominant cause of polio in the US today, with 87% of cases between 1973 and 1983 caused by the vaccine. More recently, 1980-1989, every case of polio in the US was caused by the vaccine. Doctors and scientists on the staff of the National Institute of Health during the 1950’s were well aware that the Salk vaccine was ineffective and deadly. Some frankly stated that it was “worthless as a preventative and dangerous to take”. The Salk “inactivated” or “killed-virus” was actually regulated to permit 5,000 live viruses per million doses.

    The polio death rate was decreasing on its own before the vaccine was introduced, and there is no credible scientific evidence that the vaccine caused polio to disappear. Cases of polio increased after mass
    inoculations.

    Let’s not forget SV-40. The gift that keeps on giving.

  • elnura

    Documentation to prove that claim:
    given how prevalent HPV and cervical cancer are.

    There is no scientific data or evidence that HPV is prevalent given it is the lowest rated cancer in the world. Cervical cancer is one of the rarest cancers in the U. S., with 12,000 cases reported per year and 4,000 deaths. Cervical Cancer has not been scientifically proven to be caused by HPV also there a many factors that contribute to the development of cervical cancer. There are over 100 strains of HPV, only about 15 of which can contribute to cervical cancer. HPV by itself does not cause cervical cancer. Evidence shows it
    takes a combination, or co-infections – multiple viruses or
    virus/bacteria combinations to cause cervical cancer. Examples include Epstein Bar virus, HIV, and Chlamydia, along with HPV. Also lifestyle: diet, smoking, drinking, drug abuse and according to the CDC in excess of 26 sexual partners.

  • Lou

    Measles “Vaccine” is Destroying Human Herd Immunity to Wild
    Measles

    ”When young girls catch measles naturally, they in turn are able to pass this immune protection on to their babies when they are older, both by antibody transfer through the placenta and by way of breast milk after giving birth. Vaccination with MMR prevents girls from getting the measles, and it also keeps their immunity from being transferred to their future children, who are then born utterly unprotected.” Doctor Russell Blaylock MD

    Note this lack of protection at birth where they are most at risk of death would be unconscionable in an honest country.
    As doctor Blaylock shows us above the “measles vaccine” is preventing young mothers from naturally immunizing their offspring to measles as mothers have done from time immemorial. IMO this probably holds for “vaccines” other than the measles “vaccine”.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vaccine_3.htm

  • elnura

    People that don’t vaccinate their children are cruel. They open them up
    to the most cruel torture and suffering from diseases that vaccines can
    simply prevent or lessen the burden of disease

    Waaaaaaay over the top. Drama, Drama, Drama! I had the so called cruel and torturous diseases ( the wild natural strains-not the juiced up frakenlab versions) and I no more suffered than someone who bumped their knee. My suffering was having to stay indoors and watch other children playing because I felt fine after the initial symptoms and they weren’t bad. The only life long effect: NATURAL IMMUNITY. I don’t even have a pox mark.

    You have got to be a troll because normal people don’t talk like that.

  • Lou

    “The authors also found no evidence that the vaccine worked at all. This observation led the authors to offer this
    damning conclusion that appears to render Gardasil nothing more than a grand medical hoax. A 2011 publication in the Annals of Medicine exposed the fraudulent nature of Human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccines such as Gardasil and Cervarix. Key messages the researchers report include a lack of evidence for any HPV vaccines in preventing cervical cancer and lack of evaluation of health risks.” 5 Vaccines To Never Give A Child

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_gardasil.htm

  • elnura

    Then you really are kind of a loser.

    Name calling is the last refuge of the outargued. If you must resort to it, you’ve lost the debate.

  • Roxanne

    No what is cruel and sick is shooting up a newborn whose blood-brain barrier is not even intact and subjecting them to vaccine synergistic toxicity and vaccine induced demyelination. Below is
    just the tip of the needle of the studies (in this case re. the Hep B vaccine) re. the kinds of things vaccines are implicated in that you are so sadly and appallingly unaware of:

    ****Hepatitis B Vaccine and Vision Loss:

    Albitar S, et al. Bilateral retrobulbar optic neuritis with hepatitis B vaccination. Nephrol Dial Transplant. 1997 Oct;12(10):2169-70.

    Achiron LR, et al. Postinfectious hepatitis B optic neuritis. Optom Vis Sci 1994;71:53-6. Arya SC., et al. Ophthalmic complications of vaccines against hepatitis B virus. Int Ophthalmol. 1997;21(3):177-8.

    Baglivo E, et al. Multiple evanescent white dot syndrome after hepatitis B vaccine. Am J Ophthalmol. 1996 Sep;122(3):431-2.

    Berkman N, Benzarti T, Dhaoui R, Mouly P., et al. [Bilateral neuro-papillitis after hepatitis B vaccination] Presse Med. 1996 Sep 28;25(28):1301. French.

    Berkman N. [A case of segmentary unilateral occlusion of the central retinal vein following hepatitis B vaccination]. Presse Med. 1997 Apr 26;26(14):670. French.

    Bourges JL, Pisella PJ, Laurens C, Limon S. [Multifocal placoid epitheliopathy and anti-hepatitis B vaccination] J Fr Ophtalmol. 1998 Nov;21(9):696-700. French.

    Brezin A, et al. Visual loss and eosinophilia after recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Lancet. 1993 Aug 28;342(8870):563-4.

    Brezin AP, Massin-Korobelnik P, Boudin M, Gaudric A, LeHoang P., et al. Acute posterior multifocal placoid pigment epitheliopathy after hepatitis B vaccine. Arch Ophthalmol. 1995 Mar;113(3):297-300.

    Galli M, Morelli R, Casellato A, et al. Retrobulbar optic neuritis in a patient with acute type B hepatitis. Neurol Sci 1986;72:195-200.

    Granel B, et al. [Occlusion of the central retinal vein after vaccination against viral hepatitis B with recombinant vaccines. 4 cases]. Presse Med. 1997 Feb 1;26(2):62-5. French.

    McKibbin M, et al. Bilateral optic neuritis after hepatitis A. J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry. 1995 Apr;58(4):508.

    Voigt U, Baum U, Behrendt W, Hegemann S, Terborg C, Strobel J. [Neuritis of the optic nerve after vaccinations against hepatitis A, hepatitis B and yellow fever] Klin Monatsbl Augenheilkd. 2001 Oct;218(10):688-90. German.

    ****The Hepatitis B Vaccine and Hearing Loss:

    Orlando MP, Masieri S, Pascarella MA, Ciofalo A. Filiaci F, et al, “Sudden hearing loss Consequent to Hepatitis B Vaccination: a case report.” Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences. 1997 Dec 29, 830: 319-321

    Biacabe B, Erminy M, Bonfils P, et al, “A Case of Fluctuant Sensorineural Hearing Loss consequent to Hepatitis B Vaccination: a case report.” Auris Nasus Larynx. 1997 Oct; 24(4): 357-360.

    ****The Hepatitis B Vaccine and Assorted Ailments:

    Herroelen L. de Keyser J. Ebinger G. Central nervous system demyelination after immunization with recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Lancet, 1991 Nov 9; 338 (8776):1174-75.

    Ribera ER. Dutka AJ. Polyneuropathy associated with administration of hepatitis B vaccine. N Engl J Med. 1983 Sep 8;309(10):614-5.

    Snider GB. Gogate SA. A possible systemic reaction to hepatitis B vaccine. JAMA 1985 Mar 1;253(9):1260-1.

    Fried M. Conen D. Conzelmann M. Steinemann E. Uveitis after hepatitis B vaccination. Lancet, 1987 Sep 12;2(8559:631-2.

    Shaw FE Jr. Graham DJ. Guess HA, et al. Postmarketing surveillance for neurologic adverse events reported after hepatitis B vaccination. Experience of the first three years. Am J Epidemiol 1988 Feb;127(s):337-52.

    Biron P. Montpetit P. Infante-Rivard C. Lery L. Myasthenia gravis after general anesthesia and hepatitis B vaccine. Arch Intern Med. 1988 Dec;148(12):2685.

    Goolsby PL. Erythema nodosum after Recombivax HB hepatitis B vaccine. N Engl J Med 1989 Oct;321:1198-9.

    Anonymous, hepatitis B vaccines: reported reactions. World Health Organization Adverse Drug Reaction Bulletin. August 1990.

    Cockwell P. Allen MB. Page R. Vasculitis related to hepatitis B vaccine. BMJ 1990 Dec 1;301(6763):1281.

    Tudela P. Marti S. Bonal J. Systemic lupus erthemoatosus and vaccination against hepatitis B. Nephron 1992 62(2):236.

    Ganry O. Lerailler F. Vercelleto M. Chiffoleau A. Larouse C. Peripheral facial paralysis following vaccination against hepatitis B. Apropos of a case. Therapie. 1992;47:437-438.

    Trevisani F. Gattinara GC. Caraceni P, et al. Transverse myelitis following hepatitis B vaccination. J Hepatol 1993 Sep;19(2):317-8.

    Mahassin F. Algayres JP. Valmary J, et al. Acute myelitis after vaccination against hepatitis B. Presse Med 1993 Dec 18;22(40):1997-8.

    Nadler JP. Multiple sclerosis and hepatitis B vaccination. Clin Infect Dis 1993 Nov:17(5):928-9.

    Brezin A. Lautier-Frau M. Hamedani M. Rogeaux O. Hoang PL. Visual loss and eosinophilia after recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Lancet 1993 Aug 28;342(8870):563-4.

    Trevisian G. Stinco G. Lichen rubber planus following HBV vaccination. Acta Dermato-Venereologica 1993 Feb;73(1):73.

    Castresana-Isla CJ. Herrera-Martinez G. Vega-Molina J. Erythema nodosum and Takayasu’s arteritis after immunization with plasma derived hepatitis B vaccine. J Rheumatol 1993 Aug;20(8):1417-8.

    Allen MB. Cockwell P. Page RL. Pulmonary and cutaneous vasculitis following hepatitis B vaccination. Thorax 1993 May;48(5):580-1.

    Deisenhammer F. Pohl P. Bosch S. Schmidauer C. Acute cerebellar ataxia after immunisation with recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Acta Neurol Scand 1994 Jun;89(6):462-3.

    Vautier G. Carty JE. Acute sero-positive rheumatoid arthritis occurring after hepatitis vaccination. Br J Rheumatol 1994 Oct;33(10):991.

    Hassan W. Oldham R. Reiter’s syndrome and reactive arthritis in health care workers after vaccination. BMJ 1994 Jul 9;309(6967):94.

    Aubin F. Angonin R. Humbert P. Agache P. Lichen planus following hepatitis B vaccination. Archives of Dermatology. 1994 Oct;130(10):1329-30.

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  • Lou

    “My daughter went from a varsity
    lacrosse player at Choate to a chronically ill, steroid-dependent patient with
    autoimmune myofasciitis. I’ve had to ask myself why I let my eldest of three
    daughters get an unproven vaccine against a few strains of a nonlethal virus
    that can be dealt with in more effective ways.”

    Doctor Ratner says she’d have been better off getting cervical cancer than the
    vaccination, Note you can bet Doctor Ratner will be
    put to death before her other two girls are forced to get this poison

  • Damien

    What’s really sad is when you use a canned insult you got off the net because you’re too stupid to think of your own :)

    You even went so far as to copy & paste it!

  • elnura

    Why not?. If it’s online it’s free. There is no shame in my game. I heard that one on cable. Considering the trolling on this thread you guys are not worth investing more time than necessary. So are you third wave?

  • Lou

    “2011 Canada: A 13-year old girl presents a signed vaccine waiver form for Gardasil to her school nurse. Camille’s mother had even gone so far as to call the school on the morning Gardasil injections were scheduled to make sure there would be no problem with their decision to refuse this particular vaccine. Two school nurses spend a total of 25 minutes threatening, cajoling and intimidating Camille (http://sanevax.org/victim-of-post-g…) until she finally gave in and consented to the injection. She was told not to show her mother the vaccination record. Barely two hours later, she was admitted to the hospital – another victim of Post-Gardasil Syndrome suffering fever, rash, fainting, fatigue, weakness, headaches, stomach pains, urinary infection, and abscesses in her mouth, vision impairment and oral Candida.” Gardasil Abuse , Note so now our schools have become shooting galleries and teachers drug pushers. IMO keep your sons and daughters home on “shoot up day” better yet please home school your precious kids

    “Let me simplify this. What we have is a chemical cocktail
    that has the very, very real possibility of causing vasodilation, orthostatic hypotension (decrease in blood pressure, more specifically systolic blood pressure, during change from a supine to an erect position), mental
    deficiencies, auto-immune diseases, anemia, retard growth, infertility in men and women, etc. It can also damage an unborn child. I believe that this vaccine cocktail
    should be referenced as toxic because the ingredients in the adjuvant and the carrier solution independently have the potential to cause harm. You put all these toxic chemicals together and now you could have a real vaccine toxic cocktail that could cause heart problems and infertility besides all the other side effects is could cause. I can’t make this stuff up people. When I found it all and put it all together with the articles that I have written in the last month
    all I could do is shake my head and wonder. How the heck can they say that this vaccine is safe? To me this HPV vaccine looks like a chemical soup that was not made to immunize but to sterilize the youth of the world.” How the heck can they say that this vaccine is safe?

    “It’s clear to me that this is another case where the
    precautionary principle needs to be applied, as currently no one knows exactly whether or not the vaccine will have any measurable effect as far as lowering cervical cancer rates. The results will not be fully apparent until a few decades from now, and in the meantime, countless young girls are being harmed, and we still do not know how Gardasil will affect their long-term health, even if they do not experience any acute side effects.” The Silent Plan to Poison Your Child

  • Lou

    Sir please present your ABSOLUTE PROOF that “There is absolute proof that HPV vaccine prevents cancer.”

    I may have missed it while I was looking at scary propaganda pictures of cervical warts.

  • Lou

    My goodness what a little CDC brainwashing can do.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/image_engmeasles.jpg

  • Lou

    Another look at how the measles “vaccine” changed history for the better. NOT!

    http://healthyprotocols.com/image_measleslog.jpg

  • Lou

    Let us not forget the ROARING success the US has had with the “vaccine preventable disease” of Scarlet Fever and its “Scarlet Fever Vaccine”.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/image_scarlet.jpg

  • Lou

    Of course the “TB vaccine” was one of the few “vaccines” that never harmed anyone in the US.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/image_nochange2.jpg

  • Lou

    Sometimes it is the over educated (propagandized) who are missing the boat. Please BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR STATEMENTS. Please don’t join the propaganda herd.

    All the evidence points to “vaccination” as a deadly scam.

  • Tanya C.

    About fifteen years back I would have agreed with you and thought that parents who didn’t inoculate their children were abusive. I had a rude awakening, however, to vaccine reality when I lost my first baby after seizures, convulsions and death within 36 hours of the DPT. He had shown no health problems before this and we were totally devastated. We KNOW it was the shot that took our son but his doctors refused to listen. To make a long story short, I eventually turned my grief and anger into research. Since then, we’ve been blessed with three children which we didn’t inoculate. They are now 12, 10 and 7 and are super healthy, no allergies, never one ear infection amongst the lot, and they whiz through if they get a brief cold. Their classmates who do all the shots are a sickly bunch, chronically dealing with some cold, allergy, cough, lethargy, digestive pain and more. I’ve learned that real immunity does not come from a syringe full of poisons. My children ARE PROTECTED by real, superior natural immunity. If you did your homework you’d learn that children who’ve never been vaccinated are healthier than vaccinated children. If only I had known years ago what I know today, I’d have four children instead of three. Part of me wants to lash out at you for your judgemental comments but having been there I know it comes from years of ignorance and only getting one side of the story.

  • Lou

    Speaking of Australia here is something of interest.

    For the last three flu seasons Australia has totaled ZERO
    flu-associated pediatric deaths, probably for several reasons: First, they have experienced their children do just fine during the flu season without having flu shots – so why get them? Perhaps parents realize just good nourishment and plenty of Vitamin D sunshine “down under” (even in winter) suffices for their kids to stay in fine health.

    http://www.ageofautism.com/2013/11/flu-vaxed-vs-unvaxed-revealed.html

    Here in the USA where the propagandized are getting shot up with the “flu shot” we are dying in droves.

    Strange eh?

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_flu_shot_intro.htm

  • Lou

    You Sir, if I may offer my opinion, are the one who cannot be taken seriously. You offer MUCH opinion which is almost NEVER backed up by ANY evidence.

    Yes we will accept an internet reference.

  • Lou

    Oh the look on Piers Morgan’s face after he got a BAD case of the flu AFTER he had got his wonderful “flu shot” was priceless.

    Now there is a true believer who AFTER having been kicked HARD in the stomach is reexamining his beliefs. Just as sadly the hundreds of thousands of parents no longer believe in “vaccination” AFTER their child has been damaged by “vaccination”.

    What to me is so, so sad is the millions who AFTER the “vaccination” damage still believe in “vaccination”.

  • Roxanne

    Since you’re so educated re. vaccines please address
    the affects of vaccination on the developing brain-blood
    barrier, synergistic toxicity, demyelination and the mechanism of vaccine delivery which forcibly BYPASS the critical frontier barriers of the immune system?

  • Tanya C.

    I actually wrote the following comment in reply to another entry further down but since you echo the same baseless
    comments re. “protection”, I’m repeating it, here:

    About fifteen years back I would have agreed with you and thought that parents who didn’t inoculate their children were abusive. I had a rude awakening, however, to vaccine reality when I lost my first baby after seizures, convulsions and death within 36 hours of the DPT. He had shown no health problems before this and we were totally devastated. We KNOW it was the shot that took our son but his doctors refused to listen. To make a long story short, I eventually turned my grief and anger into research. Since then, we’ve been blessed with three children which we didn’t inoculate. They are now 12, 10 and 7 and are super healthy, no allergies, never one ear infection amongst the lot, and they whiz through if they get a brief cold. Their classmates who do all the shots are a sickly bunch, chronically dealing with some cold, allergy, cough, lethargy, digestive pain and more. I’ve learned that real immunity does not come from a syringe full of poisons. My children ARE PROTECTED by real, superior natural immunity. If you did your homework you’d learn that children who’ve never been vaccinated are healthier than vaccinated children. If only I had known years ago what I know today, I’d have four children instead of three. Part of me wants to lash out at you for your judgemental comments but having been there I know it comes from years of ignorance and only getting one side of the story.

  • Roxanne

    Well, I have to give it to you… Those girls who died after the Gardasil injection certainly won’t be getting cervical cancer!
    http://www.truthaboutgardasil.org

  • Guest

    elnura: “You are proof that God has a sense of humor.”

    That’s just one example from this thread alone, there are countless others.

  • Damien

    What was that you said above, something along the lines of ‘if you resort to insults you’ve lost the debate’? :)

  • Wendy’s Face

    ELNURA IS A PAID SHILL FOR BIG ALTMED!!!!!!

  • Guest

    Stop spreading your lies you retarded hippie. You’re worse than any disease!

  • sbk

    These parents said they “researched the ingredients” in vaccines and decided not to vaccinate. Have the “researched” the diseases that they prevent?

    As a future medical professional, I would tell all my non-immunizing parents that they’re making a mistake and unnecessarily endangering their child, straight up and without hesitation.

    For you morons that think children don’t need to be vaccinated because vaccines have risks (claims that don’t have any significant evidence, except for allergic reactions which can happen to anyone from any medication, not just vaccines), look up the following diseases:

    Pertussis. Tetanus. Measles. Polio (still exists, contrary to popular belief). Diphtheria. Hemophilus influenzae (NOT the same thing as influenza). Hepatitis B (leading cause of liver cancer globally). HPV (the only cause of cervical cancer and one of the main causes of oral cancer).

    You’d rather risk your child have these horrible, 99% preventable diseases than give them vaccines that have been used safely in 99% of children? If you’d rather believe Jenny McCarthy than the entire medical profession, then go right ahead. Just be prepared to be thought of as stupid and irresponsible.

  • sbk

    “no credible scientific evidence that the vaccine caused polio to disappear”
    Down, hippie, down. How many people with polio have you seen lately?

  • mily

    “Just be prepared to be thought of as stupid and irresponsible.” Because this trumps science? Why not provide causal evidence that any vaccine confers a benefit without risk of harm to the patient. Oh that’s right, who needs science when everyone already knows vaccines are good for ya?

  • kellyandtheboys

    I agree with what you write. However, as an RN working in an ER, I also believe the nurse was wrong. If her beliefs were strong (like many of ours are) in favor of vaccinating she should have taken the opportunity to educate the parents. . A conversation like “I know there is a lot of confusion and scary information out there related to vaccines… .however, please consider the following.”…. and teach the parents along with possibly having information on websites with evidence based information works much better. In the long run it is the parents choice to vaccinate or not vaccinate. And, although I don’t agree with the decision choosing not to vaccinate does not make the parents losers.

  • kellyandtheboys

    How does them not vaccinating their child put others at risk? If you and your child are vaccinated you won’t get the illnesses. The only people they put at risk are others who chose not to be vaccinated. You have no clue what the mother’s economic or education status is. You are making assumptions based on your misguided beliefs. I had all 4 of my children vaccinated and agree that receiving those immunizations are important. However, I find your ignorance and prejudices insulting.

  • kellyandtheboys

    First of all, I am very sorry for you for the loss of your child. I had a friend who lost a child in very similar circumstances. My children were vaccinated and we (thankfully) never had a problem. This, of course, is the case with 99% of those who are vaccinated. For people to claim that there are no problems with vaccines are just plain ignorant. Every medical treatment has side effects and in some cases serious side effects.

  • DT

    Each vaccine/immunization for each disease brings their own unique benefits and drawbacks. I have researched them and found that while I would want my child vaccinated for polio should it still be a threat, I am not accepting of the flu or HPV vaccines. This is my choice. It does not make me a threat, nor does it threaten the health of the children standing next to mine. Education is a choice, and I respect the families whose choices differ from mine. In any argument, the moment you start the name calling is the moment you have lost. I am not a moron. I hold multiple degrees in science. I am not white trash, in fact I own my own home and I work a full time job. I am not a loser, I have a family that I love a life I live and friends to share it with. I believe that this also covers stupid and irresponsible. I don’t believe that the nurse was acting very professional in her leaving a note to that parent and while I don’t believe she should be fired, I hope that she will be better able to respect the choices of the patients that come to her for their health in the future.

  • Lou

    Sir please present your evidence any “vaccine” has prevented the target disease.Please show at least one large scale gold standard clinical trial that demonstrates this “prevention”.

    Here is some of my evidence that the wonderful “MMR vaccine” is STRONGLY associated with autism.

    “Scientists and physicians from Wake Forest University, New York,
    and Venezuela, reported findings that not only confirm the presence of intestinal disease in children with autism and intestinal symptoms, but also indicate that this disease may be novel. [viii] Using sophisticated laboratory methods Dr. Steve Walker and his colleagues endorsed Wakefield’s original findings by showing molecular changes in the children’s intestinal tissues that were highly distinctive and clearly abnormal.” Wakefield proved correct

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_mmr.htm

  • Lou

    Yes and there is a much darker side to Gardasil..

    Girls and boys (soon) as young as 11 years old are being
    poisoned by GardaScam

    GardaScam is being mandated for kids. No GardaScam no
    school.

    The GardaScam “vaccination” is estimated by Merck to be
    active in the body for five years max

    The hpv virus the target of the “vaccine” will be likely
    contacted when the kids are in their 30s

    WTH?

    There is no clinical evidence that the GardaScam “vaccine”
    protects against ANYTHING except a long healthy life

    GardaScam contains Polysorbate 80 a proven CARCINOGEN

    GardaScam is a purportedly anti-cancer “vaccine” that is
    proven to CAUSE cancer

    Polysorbate 80 is proven to disrupt the reproductive cycle

    The United Nations is testing Polysorbate 80 to damage fertility for population control

    GardaScam is IMO a typical “vaccination” worthless at best and DANGEROUS

    GardaScam IMO is a depopulation means

    There are MANY salubrious means to protect against
    cervical cancer, broccoli sprouts for one

    Please view the side effects of the Gardascam poison

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_gardasil.htm

  • Janelle Haney

    You are brainwashed just the way the government wants you!

  • Lou

    Thanks for sharing your hard to share painful experience with us.

    MORE mothers need to do this. There are MILLIONS of cases of “vaccine” damage. each is usually suffered in silence and rarely shared in public.

    When mothers share this “vaccine” damage information with their doctors the doctors RARELY report it to the national Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). The reason IMO is because many “Medical Professionals” do not want the public to realize the VAST extent of the damage the “wonderful vaccines” are doing to children, adults and families. Mothers can report DIRECTLY their child’s “vaccine” damage to VAERS

    If the public only KNEW.

  • Tanya C.

    Thanks for your thoughts. On this painful journey, I’ve come to realize I am far from alone and that so many of us have been stoned walled when we’ve demanded accountability.
    No one is keeping count of our casualties. I respect your right to inoculate your children and trust you respect mine, not to. When I’ve met other families who’ve decided not to inoculate the child/children that came after the one injured/lost, invariably they speak of how much superior their health is in every respect. Thanks again for your input.

  • Lou

    LOL!

  • Lou

    “I am seeing patients and being quite amused by commenting on here in between them.”

    I have never seen a doctor’s office where a doctor was not “seeing” at least three or four patients SIMULTANEOUSLY. There is no such thing as “between patients”.

    Remember “doc” you get five minutes face time per patient.

    If you are going to play a doctor at least get some medical fundamentals down.

  • Roxanne

    Wow, even when the info is sourced – as in several submissions above – such as the redefinition of polio,
    testimonies, etc. etc. you choose to ignore it and come back with a comment of ” such substance.”

  • Lou

    Oh yeah it works great; about as well as most “vaccines”.

    “A study tracked the use of OTC painkillers among 16,031 male health professionals over a four-year period. Those who took Tylenol® six or seven days a week had a 34 percent greater risk of high blood pressure compared to non-users. Those who took aspirin had a 26 percent greater risk and those who took NSAIDs had a 38 percent higher risk. The more pills they took, the higher the risk. Those who took between 6 and 14 pills a week raised their risk of high blood pressure by 53 percent (acetaminophen) and 32 percent (aspirin).” Harvard School of Medicine

  • Lou

    “Thou shalt not kill.”

    Sadly our Medical Profession is being covertly inculcated to believe the EXACT opposite. The Depopulation of the Human Race to save mother earth is to be the new highest good.

    Fortunately only a FEW believe this. The 7.2 Billion of us who love our families and do not want to see them die need to wake up and understand issues like “vaccination” as well as MANY other medical issues.

  • Lou

    IMO this nurse is only acting in a manner at least covertly approved by most pediatricians. Perhaps her words were not acceptable but the bullying of patients and their families to “get with the ‘vaccination’ schedule” goes on every day.

  • Lou

    Yes there are numerous contraindications for giving a “vaccination”. They are almost universally ignored because the pediatrician’s office has become a CONGESTED MILL. Rescheduling is almost impossible for the majority of children..

    “Vaccination” if it is to grow from the about 81 or so “vaccinations’ given by age 6 today to say 200 or 300 MUST be quick and painless for all involved. Painless for everyone but the poor pincushion child..

    My guess is if this “vaccination” insanity proceeds much beyond 100 “vaccinations” the OVERT evidence of “vaccine” DAMAGE in a newly awakened body of MOTHERS will become so great this whole “vaccination” deadly scam will collapse and with it consequences we can hardly imagine.

    Once “Authority” has been shown to be covertly deliberately injuring our children with “vaccination” hell will have no such furry as a mother with a “vaccination” damaged child..

    http://healthyprotocols.com/image_quote-unthinking-respect-for-authority-is-the-greatest-enemy-of-truth-albert-einstein-226475.jpg

  • Lou

    In a tyranny the State does think it owns your body and that of your child.

    How far is this country from outright TOTAL tyranny?

    IMO we are only one, possibly two, 9/11(s) away.

  • Lou

    “He is no longer a practicing pediatrician.”

    This is tough love but he may end up thanking you in the end.

  • Lou

    Most modern “disease” IMO in today’s USA is a result of eating man-made crap and sitting on our butts. Hard to accept knowledge, but we are ignoring it to our continuous demise. Note drugs and Medical Treatment will not help you solve this NUTRITIONAL and EXERCISE problem.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_disease.htm

  • Lou

    Here is probably a LOT more than you want. BUT you need to read it.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vaccine.htm

  • Tina

    @George Lorenz. Who are you to call her poor white trash? Did you not read that may educated people are not choosing to vaccinate their children? I am so tired of people like you name calling and bullying. You must not know what it’s like to have a nephew who got autism after the MMR shot. He was not born with autism, we all saw the changes after that shot. AND, how is it that everyone is risked by some not having vaccinations? If your child has them they are supposed to be protected according to your own argument, right ? It’s all about big drug companies making money, not really hard to understand. Oh, and vaccinations are full of known toxins. Now, how is this not bad especially in a small baby?
    I also know people get vaccines and then still get the disease.

  • Christine P. S.

    Oh stop with the hysterics. I turned 89 in July and am hale and hearty, walk with the ease of someone in their 50’s, still travel widely, live alone, am mentally sharp etc. and received only one vaccine in my entire life. I know plenty of others like myself who are now in their 90’s or 100’s who were never vaccinated or got at most 1 or 2 shots and who lived (and live well!) to tell about it! I thank God I got the childhood diseases like mumps and the chickenpox as did my classmates and got it over and done with – got lifelong immunity and built up our immune systems. The measles we got may have been unpleasant to look at and deal with at the time, but the females amongst us were able to pass on measles antibodies to our babies – a good example of how your much touted “disease prevention” is backfiring because the babies of vaccinated mothers are unable to protect them at an wee age when they actually are far more susceptible to measles. None of my school chums nor I had asthma, (even though we grew up in a very industrial city), allergies, tonsil problems, learning and attention disorders and were the perpetually sick weaklings where sickness is the norm today. Anyone who has done a modicum of sincere homework knows that the death rate for these diseases decreased hugely decades before vaccines were on the scene. I’m sick of the disease fear mongering exaggerating and scaring people to actually believe that the infectious disease boogey man will attack them like a wolf in a chicken coup, and that they are poor defenseless creatures with stupid immune systems too dumb to overcome infectious challenges.
    What a lot of brainwashing!

  • Lou

    Doctor Wakefield linked the MMR with bowel disease. Nowhere does he mention autism. Doctor Wakefield’s research has been replicated by dozens of other researchers.

    Alert the Media: Yes, Autistic kids have a Novel Bowel Disease
    March 2013 ”Editor’s note: You’ve really got to check out and connect people to this interview Andy Wakefield did with Arthur Krigsman, one of the authors of the new journal article that confirmed unusual bowel disease in children with autism. That, you no doubt recall, is what the whole “discredited” Lancet paper was about lo these 15 years, and millions of autism cases, ago. Sadly, the denial of this reality plays out every day, including at Loyola hospital in Chicago where a 14-year-old boy is currently being treated as a psychiatric patient while his mother’s pleas to investigate his GI symptoms have so far gone unheeded.” Dan Olmsted

    “Scientists and physicians from Wake Forest University, New York,
    and Venezuela, reported findings that not only confirm the presence of intestinal disease in children with autism and intestinal symptoms, but also indicate that this disease may be novel. [viii] Using sophisticated laboratory methods Dr. Steve Walker and his colleagues endorsed Wakefield’s original findings by showing molecular changes in the children’s intestinal tissues that were highly distinctive and clearly abnormal.”

    Wakefield proved correct

    Well Doctor Wakefield was correct all along. This brave man was politically destroyed by the “sell out scientists” who will affirm anything their masters tell them to affirm. Please read this interview. The true science seems to be winning. If mankind is to have any kind of a rational future we had better make sure we do all we can to support science and expose our political masters who misuse science to their own evil ends.

    Vaccine Damage: An International Plague

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vaccine.htm

  • Lou

    The same people who manufacture a “flu vaccine” that contains 100 billion mercury atoms also manufacture every other “vaccine”.

    Do you trust em?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VImCpWzXJ_w&feature=PlayList&p=904C35CAD065DB81&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=77

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_mercury.htm

  • Tanya C.

    Agreed. When you open the vaccine Pandora box and realize just how much death and suffering has come about
    due to vaccination it is mind blowing. It pains me to the core to think how many millions of more children will have their
    lives destroyed because the masses have been duped by
    fear, lies and propaganda. What really gets me are those
    who misguidingly embrace vaccines because they have
    asthma or MS or some other condition for which they need
    what they think is protection. For most, it never occurs to
    them that inoculations may have been the very cause of their
    problems to begin with.

  • mily

    As an RN do you inform each patient that they could die or be permanently damaged from the vaccine itself? Do you further inform the patient that should they die or be damaged by the vaccine that you and the vaccine maker will never be held liable?

    If you are not doing this then you are never getting informed consent. Do you comprehend this?

  • Lou

    “If there is an outbreak of the disease her child would have to be sent home and not allowed to attend school”.

    What a blessing. Government “schools” may not be as bad as “vaccination” but close. Both are IMO child abuse.

  • Lou

    I must say this comment section has developed into an EXCELLENT exposition on the abject harm of “vaccination”.

    Thanks for continuing it. There may be hope for our children.

  • Alex Jones

    Ancient a-hole, Go vaccinate yourself! Please.

  • mily

    Questions for healthcare “professionals”: While informing your patients about the vaccine (prior to vaccination) do you inform each patient that they could die or be permanently damaged
    from the vaccine itself? Do you further inform the patient that should
    they die or be damaged by the vaccine that you and the vaccine maker
    will never be held liable?

    Also do you believe that shielding vaccine makers from product liability suits increases or decreases the safety and efficacy of vaccines?

  • Tanya C.

    Thanks for sharing, Tina. I, too, know what it is to see a child
    victimized by inoculation. The proof is in the pudding, and no
    white coat in their insular ivory tower with their industry coddling
    “studies” can counter what too many of us have witnessed firsthand.
    It’s criminal how many countless lives have been destroyed, and
    the medical hierarchy wash their hands of it as if nothing ever happened, and deny till they are blue in the face that the inoculation
    could be the fault. All that propaganda that the odds of having a vaccine reaction are miniscule is such complete bull.

  • No Pretense

    The nurse was right, the parents are losers and so is anyone who does not vaccinate. You believe in folk lore (also called anecdotal evidence) not science.

  • No Pretense

    “A large study of children in Denmark found that children whose mothers had influenza or a fever lasting more than a week during pregnancy had a higher risk of autism. The study, “Autism After Infection, Febrile Episodes, and Antibiotic Use During Pregnancy: An Exploratory Study,” will be published in the December 2012 Pediatrics and released online Nov. 12. Researchers studied a population-based cohort of 96,736 children born in Denmark between 1997 and 2003. Mothers were asked about common infections, fevers and antibiotic use during their pregnancies and early postpartum. Researchers found no association between common maternal infections like respiratory infection,
    urinary tract infection or genital infections and a child’s risk of autism. Children whose mothers reported influenza during pregnancy had twice the risk of
    being diagnosed with infantile autism, and children whose mothers had a fever lasting more than a week during pregnancy had a threefold risk of infantile autism. Researchers also found a small increased risk for autism spectrum
    disorder among children whose mothers used antibiotics during pregnancy.
    However, study authors say that due to methodologic limitations of the study,
    the findings may be due to chance, and further research is needed. ”
    – See more at:
    http://www.aap.org/en-us/about-the-aap/aap-press-room/pages/Danish-Study-Examines-Infections-During-Pregnancy-and-Autism-Risk.aspx#sthash.5CPlBr0l.dpuf

  • No Pretense

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1124634/

    A Danish study of more than half a million children showed
    no link between measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccination and
    autism.

    In a commentary accompanying the study, which was published in the ,
    Dr Edward Campion, senior deputy editor, wrote, “This careful and
    convincing study shows that there is no association between autism and
    MMR vaccination.”

    Lead author Dr Kreesten Meldgaard Madsen, an epidemiologist and expert on infectious diseases at the Danish Epidemiology Science Centre in Aarhus, told the BMJ that the study showed that the risk of autism was similar in children who were vaccinated and children who were not.

    The study reviewed records of 537303 children born in Denmark between
    January 1991 and December 1998, representing almost 100% of children
    born in that period. Of these children 440655 had been vaccinated.
    Records were retrieved from three sources: the unique identification
    number assigned to each child at birth; MMR vaccination data reported to
    the National Board of Health by general practitioners, who give all MMR
    vaccinations and are reimbursed for their reports; and diagnoses of
    autism recorded in the Danish Psychiatric Central Registry. Only
    specialists in child psychiatry diagnose autism and related conditions.

    The study considered the children’s sex, weight and gestational age at
    birth, and age at diagnosis of autism or of a related disorder; the
    socioeconomic status of the parents; and the mother’s education.

    The authors found that “There was no increase in the risk of autistic
    disorder or other autistic-spectrum disorders among vaccinated children
    as compared with unvaccinated children (adjusted relative risk of
    autistic disorder, 0.92; 95% confidence interval, 0.68 to 1.24; adjusted
    relative risk of other autistic-spectrum disorders, 0.83; 95%
    confidence interval, 0.65 to 1.07).”

  • No Pretense

    Well you are an 89 year old fool. Just because someone smokes and lives until 90 says nothing about the health effects of smoking on a population. Again, you know nothing about science or disease.

  • And this is coming from someone who is anonymous. How quaint.

  • No Pretense

    What happens to small pox, polio?

  • No Pretense

    George, calling anyone white trash is racist to black people (why must you qualify the trash as ‘white’, is it implied that other trashy people must be black?).

    That said, people who don’t believe in vaccination are generally very ignorant Republican voting jackasses.

  • Do you have any idea what the tri-valent influenza vaccine does to pregnant women?

  • No Pretense

    “People who choose not to vaccinate their children also put others at
    risk if their child isn’t vaccinated and becomes ill. Special groups of
    people cannot be vaccinated, including those with compromised immune
    systems (e.g. those with leukemia or other cancers). These people rely
    on the general public being vaccinated so their risk of exposure is
    reduced.”

  • Yes – please tell us what happened to smallpox as only 10% of the world’s population was vaccinated. Thanks.

  • No Pretense

    “An unvaccinated person can be a disease threat to other adults and children.Unfortunately, children who are not immunized pose a threat of
    transmission when there is disease in the community. They can pass the
    disease on to babies who are too young for immunizations. They also pose
    a threat to children with medical exemptions, including children with
    leukemia, who cannot be immunized because of their medical condition.
    For a very small percentage of children, vaccines will not “take.” These
    children also are put at risk. The only way we can protect them is to
    surround them with immunized children. Children with exemptions can
    spread disease to such children who are unaware that they are not
    protected. Recent outbreaks of pertussis mostly involved children with
    exemptions. In the measles epidemic, students with personal beliefs
    exemptions were many times more likely to catch measles than those who
    were immunized.

  • You have now made several comments calling names or being otherwise unpleasant. This is your only warning to clean up your language.

  • No Pretense

    Keeps them from getting the flu you total douche bag.

  • “Keeps them from getting the flu…” — not so much. Try reading up a bit more on the topic.

    Until you emotionally mature by a few years you won’t be making anymore comments on this site.

  • Ropea Dope

    This site regularly censors dissenting opinions (anything based of peer reviewed research). Of course, any site which touts that IT will at last tell you the truth is likely to be lying to you.

  • Ropea Dope

    Sorry but blogs posed by med school drop outs, stay at home moms and dudes with bad hair cuts (JEFFREY) do not qualify as relevant reading material.

  • Ropea Dope

    Quaint? Are you really that big of a wimp.

  • mily

    Do not hold back. Show us peer reviewed research. Noticed your childish ad hominems. Your ranting does not contribute to scientific discussion.

  • GingerbreadMama

    “…Vaccination does not stop people from carrying bacteria & viruses in their nose, in their throat, in their intestines, or in the airway, on the skin or on the body; or from transferring it to others. The public (has been) made to believe that if vaccinated, one won’t carry viruses and therefore others will be ‘protected’ because one is vaccinated. That’s not even possible and is definitely not true….” ~Dr. Larry Palevsky

  • Ropea Dope

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pm

    A Danish study of more than half a million children showed
    no link between measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccination and
    autism.

    In a commentary accompanying the study, which was published in the ,
    Dr Edward Campion, senior deputy editor, wrote, “This careful and
    convincing study shows that there is no association between autism and
    MMR vaccination.”

    Lead author Dr Kreesten Meldgaard Madsen, an epidemiologist and
    expert on infectious diseases at the Danish Epidemiology Science Centre
    in Aarhus, told the BMJ that the study showed that the risk of autism
    was similar in children who were vaccinated and children who were not.

    The study reviewed records of 537303 children born in Denmark between
    January 1991 and December 1998, representing almost 100% of children
    born in that period. Of these children 440655 had been vaccinated.
    Records were retrieved from three sources: the unique identification
    number assigned to each child at birth; MMR vaccination data reported to
    the National Board of Health by general practitioners, who give all MMR
    vaccinations and are reimbursed for their reports; and diagnoses of
    autism recorded in the Danish Psychiatric Central Registry. Only
    specialists in child psychiatry diagnose autism and related conditions.

    The study considered the children’s sex, weight and gestational age at
    birth, and age at diagnosis of autism or of a related disorder; the
    socioeconomic status of the parents; and the mother’s education.

    The authors found that “There was no increase in the risk of autistic
    disorder or other autistic-spectrum disorders among vaccinated children
    as compared with unvaccinated children (adjusted relative risk of
    autistic disorder, 0.92; 95% confidence interval, 0.68 to 1.24; adjusted
    relative risk of other autistic-spectrum disorders, 0.83; 95%
    confidence interval, 0.65 to 1.07).”

  • Ropa Dope
  • Ropa Dope

    Can you show me even one peer reviewed study where there is a link to autism? No,. because there isn’t.

  • Ropa Dope

    You you inform your patients that they have a nurse who knows nothing about disease epidemiology.

  • Ropa Dope

    Read it an weep, please show me your peer reviewed studies:

    http://www2.aap.org/immunization/families/faq/vaccinestudies.pdf

  • Ropa Dope

    This site is full of lies. Ask them for peer reviewed studies and they will direct you to blog posts from insane people or site stats with no reference. Here is a list of peer reviewed studies on vaccine safety and the conclusions from the American Academy of Pediatrics:

    http://www2.aap.org/immunization/families/faq/vaccinestudies.pdf

  • Christine P. S.

    Your the fool! All four of my children, their children and my
    great grandchildren are unvaccinated and are as super healthy as can be. I’d match the health of my extended family against yours or any other vaccine pusher any day.

  • Roxanne

    The Danish study has been thoroughly debunked as has its compromised,
    “investigator”. Parents who’ve seen their child descend into autism post vaccination have all the proof they need. It’s called real life experience.
    Damaged bodies don’t lie. Manipulated “$cience” to serve industry does.

  • Roxanne

    “Since the passing of the Compulsory Vaccination Act in (Britain) 1853 we have had no less than three distinct epidemics. In 1857-9. We had more than 14,000 deaths from small pox. In the 1863-5 epidemic the deaths increased to 20,000 and in the 1871-2 they totaled up to 44,800.” Walter Hadwen MD, MRCS LRCP, LSA

    “In the Cologne epidemic of 1870, 173 vaccinated persons were attacked before the first unvaccinated one. In Liegnite in 1871, the first unvaccinated to suffer was 225th on the list.” William T. Collins MD, MRCS 1883

    “How is it that smallpox is five times as likely to be fatal in the vaccinated as in the unvaccinated? How is it that in some of our most highly vaccinated towns, smallpox is rife whilst in some of our most poorly vaccinated towns such as Leicester, it is almost unknown? How is it that something like 80% of the cases admitted into the Metropolitan Board Smallpox Hospital have been vaccinated, whilst only 20% have not been vaccinated.” Dr. L. Parry, British Medical Journal, 1/21/28

  • GingerbreadMama

    It’s just that… formal indoctrination is failing to accurately inform you in fundamental ways; vaccination is *not* immunization.
    In the CDC (Centers For Disease Control) publication MMWR (December 1, 2006 / Vol. 55 / No. RR-15) there occurs the following clarification regarding “vaccination” and “immunization”:

    “Vaccination and immunization. The terms vaccine and vaccination are derived from vacca, the Latin term for cow. Vaccine was the term used by Edward Jenner to describe material used (i.e., cowpox virus) to produce immunity to smallpox. The term vaccination was used by Louis Pasteur in the 19th century to include the physical act of administering any vaccine or toxoid. Immunization is a more inclusive term, denoting the process of inducing or providing immunity by administering an immunobiologic. Immunization can be active or passive. Active immunization is the production of antibody or other immune responses through administration of a vaccine or toxoid. Passive immunization means the provision of temporary immunity by the administration of preformed antibodies. Although persons often use the terms vaccination and immunization interchangeably in reference to active immunization, the terms are not synonymous because the administration of an immunobiologic cannot be equated automatically with development of adequate immunity.”

    In other words, vaccination, as a rule, does not lead to developed immunity (becoming impervious to infection). Connected to this is the issue of whether antibody production equates to protection from (impervious to) disease. Since vaccines are marketed on the basis of their “efficacy” in generating an antibody response…. there are two issues: a) Does being vaccinated lead to the conclusion that one has developed immunity? b) Does generation of antibodies lead to the conclusion that one has been protected from the disease?

    The answers to both these questions is no.

    Naturally contracting & processing milestone childhood infections confers lifetime true immunity to viruses, decades of true immunity to bacterial infections as in pertussis, informs & strengthens the developing immune system, and creates complex, dynamic protections from chronic disorders later in life; quite unlike vaccines’ “waning (faux) immunity” and unintended consequences, aka negative side effects. Appropriate physiologic support during processing (hygienic care) makes for efficient and uncomplicated course in adequately nourished children/individuals.

    One more true fact schooling won’t teach you…
    “The germ is nothing…the terrain is everything”. Nourish the terrain, and the terrain is impervious to infection.

    Historic Perspectives on Immunity, Infectious Diseases, & Vaccination
    http://vran.org/wp-content/uploads/Perspectives-Immunity-Obomsawin.pdf

  • mily

    Aap Is well understood to be integrated within the pharma industry. Therefore aap providing info on vaccines is pretty identical to the vaccine maker making similar statements. Again both the pediatrician and vaccine maker are immune from product liability lawsuits regarding vaccines. Do you put great stock into people who have no downside and only benefit from pushing a particular product?

  • Jim Bob

    Is that “study” you’re gold standard?
    Firstly, it isn’t published. Secondly, it doesn’t exist and the result were unconfirmed. Where are you getting this information?

  • Jim Bob

    1) Rates of change make all the difference in your statement. Plus it still doesn’t answer the question why polio jumps up when vaccination rates decrease (see. Nigeria, Pakistan and currently Syria.)
    2) Conspiracy theory. No credible proof to back that up.
    3) Conspiracy theory. Again no credible proof to back that up.
    4) No cancer cases attributed to the polio vaccines. Scare mongering.

  • Jim Bob

    Sourcing individual comments that are taken out of context is not evidence.
    Sorry Roxanne, you maybe fooling the antivax crowd but not those who believe in science-based medicine.

  • Jim Bob

    Number of people killed by Gardasil confirmed by science = 0.

    Number of people killed by cervical cancer in 2010 confirmed by science = 4000.

  • Jim Bob

    Double-blind study can’t be performed. Grow up and do some research as to why.
    If you can’t find long term safety studies of MMR, DTP, Polio or influenza, then you aren’t looking.
    Third point, look at the corollary of your statement. Have we seen re-emergence of a disease due to reduced vaccination rates. The answer is yes. See measles in Europe, polio in Syria and pertussis in California about 2 years ago.
    Dosage makes it a “neurotoxin”. PS Chemistry is a wonderful thing if you take sometime to learn it.

  • Jim Bob

    Odds are they don’t actually have “vaccine-injured” children. They just think their children were injured by the vaccine.

  • Jim Bob

    Wow. A bunch of statements from anti-vaccine advocates which is supposed to show a conflict of interest between the medical industry and the government. Oh, the irony.
    How can you not see the hilarity of all this? Every person you’ve listed here has their own conflict of interest, so by your logic, we shouldn’t trust anything they have to say.

  • Roxanne

    Re. Polio vaccine strains & Polio Vaccine Devastating the
    Third World
    “Studies have shown that while the oral polio vaccine contains three strains of polio virus, a fourth strain can be cultured from the faeces of vaccine recipients. This indicates that viruses have recombined and formed a new strain in the process of vaccination.” Virology, 1993

    A sixteen month old boy hospitalized for high fever and paralysis had never received any poliovirus vaccine … From playing and sharing a bed with his cousin, he apparently contracted poliomyelitis from the cousin who received Typ-2 oral poliovirus thirty-three days before. Virological and serological investigation revealed a vaccine-like strain of Type-2 poliovirus.” ‘Poliomyelitis associated with Type-2 polio virus strain. Possible tramsmission from an immunized child to an non-immunized child.” Lancet, vol. 1, 3/30/68

    “We are now witnessing a disaster in African countries caused by the older live virus polio vaccines that has now produced an epidemic of vaccine related polio, that is, polio caused by the vaccine itself. In fact, in some countries polio was not seen until the vaccines was introduced! The WHO and “vaccinologist experts” from this country now justify a continued polio vaccination program with this dangerous vaccine on the basis that now that they have created the epidemic polio they cannot stop the program. In a recent article it was pointed out that this is the most deranged reasoning since more vaccines will mean more vaccine related cases of polio.” J. T. Jacob, ‘A Developing Country Perspective on Vaccine-Associated Paralytic Poliomyelitis.’ WHO Bulletin 2004, 82:53-58

    “The IMA (Indian Medical Association) has a figure of 85,000- vaccine attributed polio victims – up to 2005… Doctors have been advised to keep quiet on these issues for the “greater good” of humanity. It is sad that no effort is being made to track, treat and compensate the unfortunate children. GAVI, UNICEF, Rotary and WHO do not reply to our emails making it plainly evident they aren’t the least bothered about the health of Indian children. Shame on those who wish to profit by killing and maiming little babies.” Dr. Omesh Bharati ‘Politics of Vaccination II’

    “They started vaccinating and within four months had an outbreak of over 350 cases of polio.” Viera Schiebner PhD citing stats from Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal, 1991 concerning polio vaccine campaign in several South American countries

    “At the main hospital in Mbararay (Uganda) more than 600 children died following polio vaccination.”
    Khua Nkuba, Nov. 2002 speaking to the National Vaccine Information Centre, former East African Radio World Broadcasters (who lost his job and had his life threatened for honestly broadcasting the affects of the live virus polio vaccine in Uganda)

    “Some studies get published by tweaking their conclusions. For example, in an outbreak of paralytic polio in Oman in 1988-9 that started shortly after an immunization program…The actual state that the outbreak occurred “in the face of model immunization” and that the region with the highest attack had one of the highest coverage rates whereas the region with the lowest coverage had the lowest attack rate and that there was “no correlation between vaccine coverage rates and attack rates in the region.” By the time they get to the concluding paragraph, however, the authors are calling for more vaccines in the schedule, more mass campaigns…” Jayne Donegan, MBBS DRGOG, DCH, DFFP, citing study from Lancet 1991, 338:715-20

  • Roxanne

    Re. SV-40 and Cancer
    “Despite official denials of any correlation between polio vaccines, SV-40 and increased cancer rates, by April 2001, 62 papers from 30 laboratories around the world had reported SV-40 in human tissues and tumours.”
    San Francisco Chronicle 7/15/2001

    “A study of 59,000 women found that children of mothers who received the Salk vaccine between 1959 and 1965 had brain tumors at a rate 13 times greater than mothers who did not receive those polio shots.”
    New England Journal of Medicine 1988; 318; 1469

    “I just think this virus may have some long-term affects…cancer. Three, four weeks after that we found tumours popping out of these hamsters.”
    Dr. Maurice Hilleman, Chief Vaccine Developer, Merck relating comments made to Dr. Albert Sabin, developer of the live virus polio vaccine, in interview with Edward Shorter, Medical Historian, 2/6/87

  • Lou

    Excellent!

  • Lou

    “We have found that clinically normal individuals aged 60-65 who receive influenza vaccine three or four times during a five-year period, will five years later have an incidence of
    Alzheimer’s disease 10-fold greater than age-matched individuals who did not receive it.” Doctor H.Hugh Fudenburg, MD, Note and CDC cannot figure out where Alzheimer’s is coming from. Right! 90% of our seniors are getting the “flu vaccine” toxin.

    Seniors if you do NOTHING else but reject this USELESS TOXIC Alzheimer’s producing “Flu Shot” you will have eliminated 90% of your Alzheimer’s risk. Think your loving CDC wants to give you Alzheimer’s? It sure looks that way to me.

    Ever wonder where the neuron tangles of Alzheimer’s come from?

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_alzheimers_intro.htm

  • Lou
  • Lou

    “The Salk vaccine is physically incapable of causing polio, since it doesn’t have a live virus in it”.

    Sir you really need to do some BASIC research.

    NO virus is alive.

    What you might consider a dead virus is usually an “attenuated” virus; a virus which has been rendered unable to replicate. At least this was the THEORY.

    However we have found that these”attenuated”viruses in “vaccines” often are not quite so incapable of doing vast harm. Many immunocompromised children are incapable of eliminating these “vaccine” ingredients and they linger in the poor child’s body for YEARS, often interacting with the steady stream of toxic “vaccines”, which often contain more “attenuated” viruses, continually forced into the poor child.

    “Vaccine Theory” OFTEN does not comport with what really happens when we poison our children.

  • Roxanne

    So Dr. Greenberg’s Congressional Testimony isn’t
    “credible” enough for you. How convenient!

    “Prior to 1954 any physician who reported paralytic poliomyelitis was doing his patient a service by way of subsidizing the cost of hospitalization… two examinations at least twenty-four hours apart was all that was required… In 1955 the criteria were changed …residual paralysis was determined ten to twenty days after onset of illness and again fifty to seventy days after onset…This change In definition meant that in 1955, we started reporting a new disease… Furthermore, diagnostic procedures have continued to be Re-defined. Cocksackie virus infections and aseptic meningitis have been distinguished from poliomyelitis…Thus simply in the Change of diagnosis criteria, the number of paralytic cases was pre-deterrmined to decrease.”
    ***Dr. Bernard Greenberg, Chairman of the Committee on Evaluation & Standards of The American Policy Health Association during 1950s testifying before Congressional Hearings, 1962

  • Roxanne

    DDT graph in relation to polio with U.S. Vital Stats
    http://vactruth.com/2012/06/03/7-trivia-facts-about-polio/

  • Lou

    EVERYONE is “not responsible” for the damage done by “vaccines”.

    EVERYONE recommends “vaccines” yet NO ONE is responsible.

    Does this not seem a little strange.

    9 Magic Words Prove Vaccines Are Unavoidably Unsafe

    http://vactruth.com/2013/02/10/vaccines-are-unsafe/

    “If this vaccine injures my child, who is responsible?”

    Not the CDC who demanded the vaccine, not the FDA, not the
    HHS, not the Federal Government, not the pediatrician who recommended the injection, not the nurse who injected your baby. Not the Pharmaceutical
    Manufacturer who made the often defective “vaccine”, not your poor baby who may suffer his entire life. No, none of these will claim responsibility. Who is responsible?

    You buy the finest for your baby; please check out these
    poisons EVERYONE is recommending but NO ONE will take
    responsibility for, YOU let them put into your baby.

  • Lou

    Is this not the ‘study” by the CDC agent who disappeared with a big pile of money? Yeah that CDC can sure pick em.

    LOL!

  • Lou

    The true story of polio is so shocking you probably will not accept it when it is shown to you. You should really spend some time on polio. The TRUTH about polio in the USA convinced me.that pure evil is alive and well in the HHS and other depopulation supporters..

    http://www.mothering.com/community/t/1355060/1-in-100-who-get-pertussis-will-die/80

  • disqus_Q53uRUQjEv

    “Leach” fits better than “Loser,” unless of course your child DIES of whooping cough. Then you will be.

  • Roxanne

    More like the DPT causing the child to DIE of ‘SIDS’!
    A study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association* found that children diagnosed with asthma (a respiratory ailment not unlike SIDS) were five times more likely than not to have received pertussis vaccine.(1) Another study found that babies die at a rate eight times greater than normal within three days after getting a DPT shot.(2) The three primary doses of DPT are given at two months, four months, and six months. About 85 percent of SIDS cases occur at one through six months, with the peak incidence at age two to four months.

    In a recent scientific study of SIDS, episodes of apnea (cessation of breathing) and hypopnea (abnormally shallow breathing) were measured before and after DPT vaccinations. “Cotwatch” (a precise breathing monitor) was used, and the computer printouts it generated (in integrals of the weighted apnea-hypopnea density — WAHD) were analyzed. The data clearly shows that vaccination caused an extraordinary increase in episodes where breathing either nearly ceased or stopped completely. These episodes continued for months following vaccinations. Dr. Viera Scheibner, the author of the study, concluded that “Vaccination is the single most prevalent and most preventable cause of infant deaths.”(3) (See the diagram below.)

    In another study of 103 children who died of SIDS, Dr. William Torch, of the University of Nevada School of Medicine at Reno, found that more than two-thirds had been vaccinated with DPT prior to death. Of these, 6.5 percent died within 12 hours of vaccination; 13 percent within 24 hours; 26 percent within three days; and 37, 61, and 70 percent within one, two, and three weeks, respectively (see the diagram below). He also found that SIDS frequencies have a bimodal-peak occurrence at two and four months — the same ages when initial doses of DPT are administered to infants.(4)

  • Roxanne

    Yep! Indicted on a multitude of charges and of course the media
    double standard re. vaccines plays out with total silence.

  • Roxanne

    Right your “science based” medicine that uses NON-inert
    placebos, admits to not testing for carcinogenicity, auto-immune conditions etc. and is too damn chicken to conduct
    a long-term study comparing the health of vaccinated versus
    non-vaccinated children. A “science based” medicine that
    violates the biological mechanisms of immunity by BYPASSING the critical frontier barriers of the immune system. Vaccination is a outdated modality that is backfiring
    with the devastation of auto-immune disorders, diabetes
    SIDS and on and on. A “science based” medicine that
    when put to the test on shorter lived species in comparing
    the vaccinated versus unvaccinated (dogs) reaps devastating results. Your words ring hollow in the face of vaccine junk
    science.

  • Roxanne

    Your “science” is denial and these girls and many others
    are living – actually dead – proof of what Gardasil damage
    can reap… Oh and BTW, what was the “placebo”
    that Merck used in its trials of the ever so “scientific”
    HPV shot?!

  • GingerbreadMama

    I agree with you, and not to disagree with Dr.Blaylock, but I’d say it a bit differently to make a finer point than I think he was addressing in the context of the larger statement perhaps; because vaccinated people get the measles all the time, but differently so; on both counts, because of original antigenic sin.

    I would say that vaccination (original antigenic sin; injection vs ingestion specifically) prevents a girl’s body/immune system from fully processing a measles infection appropriately & dynamically in the way that physiologically creates true lifetime immunity, which she will then be able to pass along to her future baby/ies. And yes it’s true for other vaccinations/infections…this was taken originally – term coined, then re-termed to create obfuscation in later research – from pertussis vacine research findings. Hilary Butler revealed it to us.

  • Jim Bob

    I’d love to read these studies because you have penchant for taking things out of context.
    Here’s another stat. Did you know that most babies who die of SIDS have also ingested either breast milk or formula?

  • Jim Bob

    Thorsen’s fraud was definitely wrong. But the fraud had nothing to do with the paper. In fact, he wasn’t even a lead on the paper.
    Moreover, I haven’t heard a peep about Wakefield who clearly engaged in scientific misconduct. Why not call him out?
    How’s that for double standards?
    Roxanne, sometimes your logic is insane.

  • Jim Bob

    What has debunked it?

  • Did you also know in a study of 103 children who died of SIDS, more than 2/3 had been vaccinated with pertussis prior to death?

    Tourch, WC. DPT immunization: A potential cause of the sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). Amer Acad of Neur, 34th Annual Meet., April 25-May 1, 1982. Neur 32(4): pt.2.

  • Jim Bob

    Lou,
    Did you read any of those?
    Not a single one supports Wakefield’s theory. I should perhaps restate it hear since you seem to be unaware.
    Wakefield’s hypothesis: Measles from the MMR vaccine causes gut problems, gut problems cause autism.
    Every single refernce in “Dr.” Mercola’s article simply said that autistic children had bowl problems. It didn’t mention causality. For all we know, it could be the autism causing the bowl problems rather then the other way around. Moreover, none of them even mentioned MMR.
    This is the problem with using anti-vaccine websites to educate yourself. Go to the source and learn. Better yet, go to a medical profession who has spent the better part of their lives studying science-based medicine. You’ll be enlightened.

  • Jim Bob

    It still doesn’t explain why polio re-emerges when vaccination rates decrease. Your evidence is weak at best.

  • what?

    All babies die which fail to consume breast milk or some facsimile. Are you asserting that a babe will die for failing to receive nuerotoxins?

  • Jim Bob

    If you bothered to read any of those studies instead of cherry picking a few lines, you’ll still actually note that there have been zero scientific cases of cancer linked to SV40. SV40 has not been in vaccines since 1963. And a group who was accidently given the contaminated vaccine showed not different rate in cancer diagnoses compared with a similar cohort who received the vaccine after 1963.
    There’s no point in continuing the fear mongering Roxanne. People see through the lies.

  • Jim Bob

    Perhaps if you used any recent studies, you’ll realize that polio has been eradicated in almost the entire world with the exception of three countries (maybe four if you include Syria). All of these countries have fanatics similar to yourself who believe that vaccination is evil and will murder aid workers seeking to give medical assistance to the masses.

  • Jim bob

    Do you have evidence of anything that you mentioned ever happening?
    Or are you pulling it out of your butt?

  • ouchthathurt

    Thanks to vaccine induced polio or VIP you may get your wish.

  • Roxanne

    I love the lengths you will go to defend the vaccine holy cow,
    Jim Bob… Just another blind devotee of The Church of Vaccinology.

  • Roxanne

    Go blow it out your ear, my brainwashed friend. I used to be avidly pro-vaccine till I PERSONALLY witnessed polio vaccine victims in India decades ago when I visited educational projects etc. that were set up by my relatives there to help these poor victims. It blew me away, because this went counter to everything I’d been fed re. the polio vaccine. Continue to worship your vaccine holy cow till
    your blue in the face. I know what I witnessed firsthand
    and tens of thousands of poor parents in India whose
    children have ended up with Acute Flacid Paralysis induced
    by vaccination know that it is no damn coincidence.
    Someone could drop dead within minutes of a vaccine
    and you’d still tie your knickers defending the Church
    of Vaccinology.

  • Roxanne

    The fear monger is you. Even when lead vaccine researcher Hilleman speaks frankly about
    SV40, you ignore it as with NEJM citation etc.
    Dr. Bernice Eddy was right – you are wrong.

  • djadidas

    So tell me this, if your vaccine works, and your child is vaccinated, and mine isn’t, what are you worried about if the vaccine works? Lol don’t make snese does it?

  • Roxanne

    “A US government-financed research group in Denmark lied about the role of the Measles, Mumps and Rubella (MMR) vaccine in causing autism in a highly-publicized and influential study, Autism Rate Among Danish Children Reported in A Population Based Study of Measles, Mumps and Rubella Vaccination and Autism. The authors claimed that, ‘This study provides strong evidence against the hypothesis that MMR Vaccination causes autism,’ even though the data in the study clearly shows that children who got an MMR vaccine had a 45% higher rate of full-syndrome autism than children who were not vaccinated, and a 31% higher rate of less severe forms of autism. This data can be seen at this link below, Table 2.

    ……….

    Vaccine safety studies are pretty straightforward. You look at one group of people who get a vaccine, and then you look at a group who did not get the vaccine. If there is more of a health problem in the group who got the vaccine than those who didn’t, then there very well could be a problem with the vaccine. Simple.

    But the Thorsen group didn’t do the study using the straightforward, conventional way. The data showed a much higher number of autism cases in the MMR vaccinated group than in the unvaccinated group, and If they did it the usual way they would have had to conclude that the MMR may cause autism. So instead of comparing cases of autism, they compared “life-years” with autism, and “life years” without autism. In short that means if a child was 8 years old at the end of the study period and that child was diagnosed with autism, when he was 6, he would be counted as 2 “life-years” with autism, but 6 “life years” without autism. If it sounds silly and confusing it is, by design. They had to come up with a way to avoid showing that they had found a greater rate of autism among the children who got the MMR. And this is the method they chose to do it…”

  • Roxanne

    **Re. the Smear Campaign against Dr. Wakefield, just a
    few of many points that have been mass media censored:·

    Documentation
    proving that there was no tampering of data:
    Google-No Hoax, No Fraud, Here’s the Proof:

    Brian Deer’s journalistic violations and relationship to a front group for The Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry

    Media mogul, James Murdoch’s connection to MMR vaccine producer GlaxoSmithKline

    ·The General Medical Court’s high judge Nigel Davis’brother’s connection to GlaxoSmithKline

    Lancet owner, Chrispin Davis of Reid Elsevier connection to GlaxoSmithKline

    The Lancet and British Medical Journal signed partnership agreements with MMR vaccine producer Merck

    The first hushed British MMR scandal (Pluserix -Urabe Mumps strain) being linked to Meningitis and death

    Why the British Government removed the single measles vaccine option six months after the Lancet paper

    Explosive findings of a five year primate study comparing those vaccinated vs. non-vaccinated. (Were renewed attacks against Wakefield pre-emptive attempts to divert
    attention from the devastating results of this multi-university study?)

    ·
    “We are hundreds of thousands of parents crying the same thing around the world – that vaccines caused our
    children’s autism and no one wants to hear.”
    Evelyne Claessens, Montreal
    Gazette, 1/13/2011

  • Lou

    Sir please get some FACTS about pertussis and you may change your tune.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_pertussis.htm

  • Mike L.

    Right on! Doubt this irrational guy will get it.

  • Mike L.

    Ha ha! In the limited world according to this guy, ‘context’ is just code for vaccines being blameless.

  • Lou

    Doctor Wakefield is a noble honest researcher who advocated for “vaccine” injured children in the face of government indifference and worse. Doctor Wakefield’s work has been replicated and shown to be correct dozens of times.

    Thorsen is a thief.

    No double standard there.

  • Argus

    And did you know that over 90% of the children that did NOT die of SIDS had also been vaccinated for pertussis? Looks like the proper conclusion is that vaccination decreases the chances of SIDS.

  • TwoInchTammy

    I would think that the proof that vaccines do not harm people is evident in the
    fact that most people for the last 100+ years have been vaccinated and
    currently there is no hard evidence that most of those people died, or got
    another ailment, directly linked to vaccines.

    A good friend of mine is against vaccinating his children, but then
    again he is also again wearing a seatbelt. Seems to me a lot of people make this decision based on “research” that they seek out that proves the view point they already had – anti-“telling me what to do”.
    Regardless, how about every parent decides for themselves whether to vaccinate or not? And why don’t we stop firing medical staff just because they disagree with your decision?

  • Lou

    Many tens of millions of children exist. You will find innumerable commonality is such a large group.

    “The three most frequently reported causes are SIDS, cause unknown, and accidental suffocation and strangulation in bed. In 2010, 2,063 deaths were reported as SIDS, 918 as cause unknown, and 629 as accidental
    suffocation and strangulation in bed.”. CDC

    With SIDS we are looking at one to ten thousand deaths annually. If we can find something UNNATURAL a lot of these children did or had done to them close to the time of death we have found something.

    That something is the “DPT vaccine”. All “vaccination” is an unnatural medical intervention.

    My guess is if you include ALL “vaccination” instead of only one you will find an overwhelming association.

    IMO here is the strongest candidate for a prime mechanism of “vaccination” caused SIDS and all the other “diseases of vaccination”. “Whenever you impair “flow” in any riverbed system, the first areas to “dry up” downstream are the weakest trickling streams furthest from the flow source. These areas are called ”end vascular networks.” If an area of tissue is served by a singular blood vessel branch, these
    areas are called “watershed vascular territories.” These tissue areas are most susceptible to damages when blood flow is partly or completely impaired upstream. For example,
    the finger-tips, toe-tips, nose-tips, and ear-tips are most susceptible to frost bite as they are end vascular, watershed areas in the human body.” Andrew Moulden MD, PhD

    “A whole raft of diseases may be caused by micro
    ischemia; polio, autism, small pox, all the so called childhood developmental diseases, many diseases associated with diabetes, any disease with palsy in the name, any disease with seizure in the name, any disease in the
    dementia cluster, many mental disorders. There is often a common problem in all these diseases and we are injecting it in everyone.” Andrew Moulden MD, PhD

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_Dr_Moulden.htm

  • The “proper” conclusion? Please share your evidence. Thanks.

  • Lou

    Well Sir perhaps we should hear from another researcher.

    “John O’Leary, PhD a world-class researcher and molecular biologist from Ireland, using state of the art sequencing technology, showed how he had found measles virus in the gut
    of 96% of autistic children, compared to 6.6% of normal children. This virus did not come from the natural disease; it came from the measles vaccine.”

    Is this not crystal clear?

  • Lou

    The USA injects it’s fetuses, infants and children with about 3 times as many “vaccines” as the rest of the developed world. The USA spends more on “health care” than most of the rest of the WORLD COMBINED.

    So what is the result for our children?

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/story/2011-10-03/infant-mortality-ranking-US-41st/50647658/1

    WHY? Remember “vaccinations” are supposed to IMPROVE our pincushion children’s health and longevity

    Think these horrible results could possibly be from all those toxic “vaccinations” going into our pregnant mothers, fetuses and infants?

    Yes it certainly could.

  • Lou

    No direct evidence of harm from “vaccination”? I wish it were so.

    DEC 2006 “Gulf war syndrome is positively linked to the vaccination of veterans.” New York Times, Note 100,000 vets with GWS, 20,000 dead,
    squalene key suspected toxin, mycoplasma found in thousands of vaccinated vets with GWS

    In the USA, from July 1990 to November 1993, the US Food and Drug Administration counted a total of 54,072 adverse reactions following vaccination. The FDA admitted that this number represented only 10% of the real total, because most doctors were refusing to report vaccine injuries. In other words, adverse reactions for this period exceeded half a million! National Vaccine Information Centre, March 2, 1994, Note it may well be ten times this or 5 million!

    In Oman between 1988 and 1989, a polio outbreak occurred amongst thousands of fully vaccinated children. The region with the highest attack rate had the highest vaccine coverage. The region with the lowest attack rate had the lowest vaccine coverage. The Lancet, 21/9/91

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_history.htm

  • Have you looked for any proof?

    The literature is replete with examples — EVEN when the marketing and public relations of the “Gold Standard” was being developed. This is just a small sample.

    ILAVSKY J,
    The psychic reactions following injections of bacterial vaccines.
    Int Arch Allergy Appl Immunol. 1950;1(3)
    PMID: 14794265

    UNTRACHT S, RATNER B,
    Allergy to viral and rickettsial vaccines; review of the literature.
    Ann Allergy. 1950;8(5)
    PMID: 14800166

    MERIEUX C,
    [Is it necessary to inoculate all children against whooping-cough?]
    Concours Med. 1950;72(49)
    PMID: 14801982

    ROZANSKI J,
    [Sudden appearance of super acute fatal multiple sclerosis after a single injection of antityphoid vaccine.]
    Monatsschr Psychiatr Neurol. 1951;121(1)
    PMID: 14815597

    FOURNIER A,
    [Purpura rheumatica following mixed diphtheria-tetanus vaccination; effect of novocaine on the occlusive syndrome.]
    Arch Fr Pediatr. 1951;8(1)
    PMID: 14820381

    MUMME C,
    [Clinical and pathologic aspects of the injurious effect of typhoid, paratyphoid, and cholera vaccination upon the nervous system.]
    Dtsch Z Nervenheilkd. 1950;164(3)
    PMID: 15435281

    [No authors listed]
    [Case of vaccinal nephritis.]
    Homeopath Fr. 1951;27(4)
    PMID: 14823560

    BERNARD H,
    [Problem of vaccinations.]
    Vie Med. 1951;32(8)
    PMID: 14877014

    RAMON G,
    [On the complications of diphtheria-tetanus anatoxin vaccination.]
    Vie Med. 1951;32(10)
    PMID: 14884474

    DEAN DJ, COHEN SM, DALLDORF G,
    The effect of unrelated vaccines on the localization of paralysis in mouse encephalomyelitis.
    Proc Soc Exp Biol Med. 1951;77(4)
    PMID: 14891886

    BORY L,
    [Allergic disorders; some recent complications following compulsory preventive vaccinations.]
    Therapie. 1951;6(4)
    PMID: 14922294

    HASSELVIK L, VAHLQUIST B,
    Triple vaccination in infancy.
    Acta Paediatr Suppl. 1951;40(83)
    PMID: 14943505

    STEFANI S,
    [Postvaccinal encephalomyelitis; clinical and histological aspects.]
    Rass Neuropsichiatr. 1951;5(3)
    PMID: 13177960

    VERLINDE JD,
    An experimental study on problems of immunity and allergy in postvaccinal encephalitis.
    Arch Gesamte Virusforsch. 1951;4(4)
    PMID: 13249482

    RATNER B, UNTRACHT S,
    Egg allergy in children; incidence and evaluation in relation to chick-embryo-propagated vaccines.
    AMA Am J Dis Child. 1952;83(3)
    PMID: 14902079

    GREENBERG M, ABRAMSON H, COOPER HM, SOLOMON HE,
    The relation between recent injections and paralytic poliomyelitis in children.
    Am J Public Health Nations Health. 1952;42(2)
    PMID: 14903227

    KORNS RF, ALBRECHT RM, LOCKE FB,
    The association of parenteral injections with poliomyelitis.
    Am J Public Health Nations Health. 1952;42(2)
    PMID: 14903228

  • Argus

    “Doctor Wakefield is a noble honest researcher . . .”
    Unbelievable.
    Now there’s someone who REALLY drank the Kool-Aid.

  • Roxanne

    Hi Tammy, I’d sincerely encourage you to investigate vaccines with a far more critical eye. Are you aware that there are numerous studies implicating vaccines in a variety of serious conditions that were once much less common. Studies have linked vaccines to allergies, arthritis, asthma, diabetes, ear infections, tonsillitis, visual and hearing impairments, learning disabilities, seizures, autism, cancer, meningitis, “sudden infant death syndrome”, neuro-degenerative disorders, renal problems/failure, auto-immune disorders such as MS and lupus etc. Given that the death rate from infectious diseases plummeted drastically well before vaccination, and that the “authorities” have grossly exaggerated the risks of mumps, chickenpox etc., while vaccine short and long-term effects go hugely under-reported (perhaps only 1-10%), the implications of aggressive vaccine schedules is all the more worrisome. Consider that not too long ago, a confidential internal report on the Infanrix Hexa vaccine became leaked and it alluded to over 800 types of adverse reactions including autism and death. It’s worth asking why you didn’t read about this in your paper or hear about this in the news. Ask yourself why you never read about the disturbing Simpsonwood meeting re. vaccines that was hushed from the public and on and on. Conflicts
    of interest and the power and politics of the revolving door between the
    pharmaceutical industry and regulators etc. is huge re.vaccines. (CDC, AAP etc.) This isn’t a theory and has been investigated and exposed by various sources including United Press International, CBS etc… Re. the nurse, she’s not been penalized because of her views but because she acted unprofessionally in deciding to call a patient names….. Not sure if you have kids, but would encourage you to consider buying the ‘Vaccine Safety Manual’ by Neil Miller which cites over 1,000 studies, if you’d like to start broadening your awareness on this important issue. Thanks for your comment, R

  • Mike L.

    ‘SECRET SHOTS’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7M_TZpQiIY
    ‘Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment that is Killing Our Soldiers’
    by Gary Matsumoto
    ” Even the Nazis didn’t run medical experiments on their own troops. This book explodes like a grenade. Read it, weep, better yet get mad.’
    Col. David H. Hackworth, U.S. Army, ret.

  • Mike L.

    Glad you reminded us, it’s not just the kids who are suffering because of vax on steroids.

  • Roxanne

    Some examples of studies in this case re. death…
    Vaccines and Death:
    Na, “DPT Vaccination and Sudden Infant Death – Tennessee, US Dept HEW, MMWR Report, Mar 23, 1979, vol 28(11): 132.
    Arevalo, “Vaccinia Necrosum. Report on a Fatal Case”, Bol Ofoc Sanit Panamer, Aug 1967, 63:106-110.
    Connolly, J H, Dick, G W, Field, CM, “A Case of Fatal Progressive Vaccinia”, Brit Med Jour, 12 May 1962; 5288:1315-1317.
    Aragona, F, “Fatal Acute Adrenal Insufficiency Caused by Bilateral Apoplexy of the Adrenal Glands (WFS) following Anti-poliomyelitis Vaccination”, Minerva Medicolegale, Aug 1960; 80:167-173.
    Moblus, G et al, “Pathological-Anatomical Findings in Cases of Death Following Poliomyelitis and DPT Vaccination”, Dtsch Gesundheitsw, Jul 20, 1972, 27:1382-1386.
    NA, “Immunizations and Cot Deaths”, Lancet, Sept 25, 1982, np.
    Goetzeler, A, “Fatal Encephalitis after Poliomyelitis Vaccination”, 22 Jun 1961, Muenchen Med Wschr, 102:1419-1422.
    Fulginiti, V, “Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, Diphtheria-Tetanus Toxoid-Pertussis Vaccination and Visits to the Doctor: Chance Association or Cause and Effect?”, Pediatr Infect Disorder, Jan-Feb 1983, 2(1): 7-11.
    Baraff, LJ, et al, “Possible Temporal Association Between Diphtheria-tetanus toxoid-Pertussis Vaccination and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome”, Pediatr Infect Disorder, Jan-Feb 1983, 2(1): 5-6.
    Reynolds, E, “Fatal Outcome of a Case of Eczema Vaccinatum”, Lancet, 24 Sept 1960, 2:684-686.
    Apostolov. et al, “Death of an Infant in Hyperthermia After Vaccination”, J Clin Path, Mar 1961, 14:196-197.
    Bouvier-Colle, MH, “Sex-Specific Differences in Mortality After High-Titre Measles Vaccination”, Rev Epidemiol Sante Publique, 1995; 43(1): 97.
    Stewart GT, “Deaths of infants after triple vaccine.”, Lancet 1979 Aug 18;2(8138):354-355.
    Flahault A, “Sudden infant death syndrome and diphtheria/tetanus toxoid/pertussis/poliomyelitis immunisation.”, Lancet 1988 Mar 12;1(8585):582-583.
    Larbre, F et al, “Fatal Acute Myocarditis After Smallpox Vaccination”, Pediatrie, Apr-May 1966, 21:345-350.
    Mortimer EA Jr, “DTP and SIDS: when data differ”, Am J Public Health 1987 Aug; 77(8):925-926

  • Argus

    Jeffie, please share your evidence that I am not correct about the vaccination rate for children that did not succumb to SIDS. And if you find that rate to be anything greater than the 2/3 in the 103 cherry-picked cases, how do you support that there is any connection?

  • Please tell me exactly what data points you disagree with in the paper. Thanks.

  • Jim Bob

    Formaldehyde occurs naturally in humans (including babies in case you didn’t know). Breast milk and formula both contain one of your “neurotoxins” (aluminum). So in essence, yes, they would actually die for failing to take in your “neurotoxins”.
    Also, the dose makes it a neurotoxin.
    @What? I suppose the question mark represents cluelessness.

  • Jim Bob

    See above for irrationality.

  • Jim Bob

    Did you cherry pick that study from 30 years ago because it suited your conclusion? Me thinks so.

    Here are a few studies from this century that say otherwise.

    -Institute of Medicine. Immunization Safety Review: Vaccinations and Sudden Unexpected Death in Infancy (March 2003)

    -Jonville-Béra AP, Autret-Leca E, Barbeillon F, Paris-Llado J; French Reference Centers for SIDS. Sudden unexpected death in infants under three months of age and vaccination status: a case-control study. British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology 2001;51(3):271–276

  • Jim Bob

    Still doesn’t show causation. Most of those children most likely slept in crib. Perhaps cribs are the cause of these deaths.

  • What did you read that you disagreed with in the study, Jim? Or, did you not read it at all?

    Thanks.

  • Argus

    So, Jeffie, have you read this “paper”? The entire thing – not just what others say it says.
    You do realize that it is not a peer-reviewed, published paper, don’t you? Instead it appears to be a presentation made at a convention. Did he or did he not include any prospective data? Without that, it is irrational to form a conclusion.

  • I’ll take that as a long “no.”

  • Argus

    Jim Bob, you are too generous in calling what Jeffie cites a “study”. It is apparently just a paper that was presented at an annual meeting “suggesting” a link. Not proof of anything.
    And as you point out, it has been 30 years since. Plenty of time to do an actual study to determine if any cause and effect exists. Oh, wait – they have – and you provided references for two of them!

  • Argus

    From your studious avoidance of answering a single question about any other information from the item you cited, it is abundantly clear that you have not read it either.
    You can easily prove me wrong by posting a link to where it can be viewed.
    Oh – you can’t? Well, don’t you look foolish for pretending you have seen it.

    And let’s not forget – you have also failed to show how the ‘factoid’ you quoted demonstrates anything about a link between pertussis vaccination and SIDS.

  • This guy

    They were using toxic ammo if you did your research. Prevention is better than a cure.

  • Jim Bob

    You are correct.
    And those are just 2 of many studies. In fact, most studies have concluded that vaccination actually reduces the incidence of SIDS.

  • Jim Bob

    I disagree with the “study” because there is newer and more relevant research on the topic.

  • Jim Bob

    Noble? Good one. You should stop calling him “Doctor”.
    Since he was found to engage in both financial and research fraud. Typical double standard of a deluded mind.
    I can at least admit that Thorsen did something wrong. To you, Wakefield is like Jesus and is infallible. Except he lies about conflicts of interest and falsifies his research.
    I’m just wondering, on the Wakefield paper, every single one of his co-authors pulled their names, while on the Madsen et al. paper no one has. Can you explain that?

  • Jim Bob

    None of this is remotely proof. Its all conspiratorial nonsence.
    Please explain why no health agency in the world agrees with Wakefield’s conclusion. His only supporters are keyboard warriors on the internet.

  • Jim Bob

    “Real life experience” is anecdotal and not scientific. I can see why you’ve come the wrong conclusions.
    I saw my daughter eat toast this morning. After that she fell and cut her lip. Ergo (according to anti-vax logic), toast causes split lips.

  • Jim Bob

    Please. I hope this is a joke, because if its not, you are gigantic fool.

    This was taken from nature, a pretty well-respected science journal:

    “Although many may have heard of Wakefield, few people are aware of the “extraordinarily poor qPCR data,” produced by O’Leary’s lab, he says. The group did not follow their own standard operating procedures, analyzed data incorrectly, overlooked negative controls that were positive, and on one occasion recorded positive results despite forgetting to carry out the reverse transcription step, Bustin says. “Since measles virus is an RNA virus only, O’Leary’s result must have been caused by contamination.” The MMR papers and court case were “the final inspiration for MIQE,” he says.”
    So much for “world-class”. But I suppose he gave that title to himself. Plus who knows how much money he made from anti-vaccine litigants.

  • Jim Bob

    PS. He wasn’t speaking frankly.

  • Jim Bob

    If you’ve been to India in the past two years, you’d realize they are polio-free.
    Sorry, sweetheart. You’re SOL on this one.
    xo

  • Paul Offit is your “Jesus.”

    Explain 10,000 vaccines.

  • Larry

    Pro vaxer’s simply cannot deal with the fact that the vax makers and their pediatrician pushers are 100% immune from lawsuit in the event a vaccine harms or kills the subject / patient. Furthermore, many people have been forced vaccinated against their will. No legitimate medical procedure including vaccines requires mandate or threat of lethal force. If a procedure is so wonderful and beneficial then there is simply no need of coercion. Coercion is the tool of the con artist criminal. Ad hominem attacks also typify the position which completely lacks all intelligent and logical merit. Pro vaxers refuse to get scientific because there is no legit science to get. Instead and far cheaper is to attempt to ridicule non-vaxers.

  • Argus

    Amazing – the lengths Jeffie will go to in order to avoid answering a straight question.
    Here he provides a link that appears to go to a site where one can read the paper he is touting, But in fact, it only shows that the proceedings of the meeting were published once, soon afterwards in 1982, and provides no way to view or obtain that document in the present day.
    It is abundantly clear that you have not read this paper, Jeffie – so why do you keep asking others if they have?

  • Larry

    I would think that the proof that the world is flat is evident in the fact that most people for the last 1000+ years can readily see that the earth is, in fact, flat and currently there is no hard evidence to the contrary. What is it going to take to get these foolish people to believe that the earth is flat? Perhaps we could threaten the use of lethal force such as being burnt at the stake to encourage compliance with the fact that the earth is flat. -some dude in 1450

  • Funny coming from someone who’s identity is obfuscated.

  • lister
  • funnybunny

    Merck
    Vaccine Fraud Exposed by Two Merck Virologists; Company Faked Mumps
    Vaccine Efficacy Results for Over a Decade, Says Lawsuit
    http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2013/02/18/6755/

    Good thing there are statutes requiring people to be injected with this fraud elsewise the vax makers would need to use actual science to create their products.

  • TwoInchTammy

    That would be poignant if there wasn’t in fact hard evidence that the world is flat. All the helpful information everyone has provided me on this thread unfortunately still doesn’t explain why I have never actually known someone (or someone that knew someone) that has died, gotten a disease or suffered in any other way directly related to their vaccinations.

  • TwoInchTammy

    I do appreciate how polite everyone has been, however.

  • Lou

    “Regardless, how about every parent decides for themselves whether to vaccinate or not?”

    Yes this is what would happen in a free country run by an honest government. However it is important to acknowledge that those conditions do not apply to the USA in 2013.

    The internet is passing the truth about “vaccination” to tens of millions of mothers. Increasingly those mothers are NOT VACCINATING or restricting the poisoning of their children. The response of our masters is to attack the internet, attack the mothers and institute a totalitarian regime of FORCED “vaccination”.

  • Lou

    Tammy

    The problem you are having is …

    “When the child goes to sleep the parents wake up.”

    The solution to this problem is for the parents of “vaccine” damaged children to be immediately and continuously vocal about the cause of their children’s damage.

  • Lou

    Fresh off the presses. This EXCELLENT exposition of the FRAUDULENT heart of “vaccination”. Susan and Roman expose how the “vaccination” fraud was sold to us all.

    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2013/11/12/vaccines-a-peek-beneath-the-hood-by-roman-bystrianyk-and-suzanne-humphries-md/

  • checkthedata,lady

    100+ years of vaccinations? Um, do some more research. Most have only been in use for 30 years or FEWER. Many have been is use for less than 10 years, AND THEY ARE RELYING ON PARENTS TO REPORT REACTIONS FOR ONGOING RESEARCH because they went into use with zero long-term studies being done. Hello! Children are not to be used for research.

  • justsayin’

    Actually, breastfed babies are less likely to die of SIDS. FACT.

    But here is an article about when the DTaP was delayed in Japan from 3 months until after 24 months and the resulting decrease in SIDS:

    http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2013/01/22/sids-and-vaccines-is-there-a-connection/

  • Roxanne

    How do you know that, Tammy? Most effects from vaccination are long-term and corrosive. How many conditions might be written off as unrelated with little awareness that vaccination may have provoked,exacerbated or contributed to that condition – be it rampant allergies, diabetes, asthma, Alzheimers or something else? Parents
    who’ve opted not to vaccinate their child/children after a
    bad experience with the earlier child, invariably note just
    how much healthier their unvaccinated child/children is/are.
    Studies comparing vaccinated versus unvaccinated dogs
    raise some devastating findings especially regarding
    auto-immune conditions in the vaccinated but not unvaccinated dogs. A primate study over five years
    also raised alarm bells with significant differences in
    the health of the vaccinated versus unvaccinated.

  • Roxanne

    Hi again, Tammy. I send this example of studies implicating vaccines (in this
    case, re. the Hep B Vaccine) in various health issues, just to give a sense of
    the scope of potential vaccine damage.
    *** The Hepatitis B Vaccine and Vision Loss:

    Albitar S, et al. Bilateral retrobulbar optic neuritis with hepatitis B vaccination. Nephrol Dial Transplant. 1997 Oct;12(10):2169-70.

    Achiron LR, et al. Postinfectious hepatitis B optic neuritis. Optom Vis Sci 1994;71:53-6. Arya SC., et al. Ophthalmic complications of vaccines against hepatitis B virus. Int Ophthalmol. 1997;21(3):177-8.

    Baglivo E, et al. Multiple evanescent white dot syndrome after hepatitis B vaccine. Am J Ophthalmol. 1996 Sep;122(3):431-2.

    Berkman N, Benzarti T, Dhaoui R, Mouly P., et al. [Bilateral neuro-papillitis after hepatitis B vaccination] Presse Med. 1996 Sep 28;25(28):1301. French.

    Berkman N. [A case of segmentary unilateral occlusion of the central retinal vein following hepatitis B vaccination]. Presse Med. 1997 Apr 26;26(14):670. French.

    Bourges JL, Pisella PJ, Laurens C, Limon S. [Multifocal placoid epitheliopathy and anti-hepatitis B vaccination] J Fr Ophtalmol. 1998 Nov;21(9):696-700. French.

    Brezin A, et al. Visual loss and eosinophilia after recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Lancet. 1993 Aug 28;342(8870):563-4.

    Brezin AP, Massin-Korobelnik P, Boudin M, Gaudric A, LeHoang P., et al. Acute posterior multifocal placoid pigment epitheliopathy after hepatitis B vaccine. Arch Ophthalmol. 1995 Mar;113(3):297-300.

    Galli M, Morelli R, Casellato A, et al. Retrobulbar optic neuritis in a patient with acute type B hepatitis. Neurol Sci 1986;72:195-200.

    Granel B, et al. [Occlusion of the central retinal vein after vaccination against viral hepatitis B with recombinant vaccines. 4 cases]. Presse Med. 1997 Feb 1;26(2):62-5. French.

    McKibbin M, et al. Bilateral optic neuritis after hepatitis A. J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry. 1995 Apr;58(4):508.

    Voigt U, Baum U, Behrendt W, Hegemann S, Terborg C, Strobel J. [Neuritis of the optic nerve after vaccinations against hepatitis A, hepatitis B and yellow fever] Klin Monatsbl Augenheilkd. 2001 Oct;218(10):688-90. German.

    *** The Hepatitis B Vaccine and Hearing Loss:

    Orlando MP, Masieri S, Pascarella MA, Ciofalo A. Filiaci F, et al, “Sudden hearing loss Consequent to Hepatitis B Vaccination: a case report.” Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences. 1997 Dec 29, 830: 319-321

    Biacabe B, Erminy M, Bonfils P, et al, “A Case of Fluctuant Sensorineural Hearing Loss consequent to Hepatitis B Vaccination: a case report.” Auris Nasus Larynx. 1997 Oct; 24(4): 357-360.

    *** The Hepatitis B Vaccine and Assorted Ailments:

    Herroelen L. de Keyser J. Ebinger G. Central nervous system demyelination after immunization with recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Lancet, 1991 Nov 9; 338 (8776):1174-75.

    Ribera ER. Dutka AJ. Polyneuropathy associated with administration of hepatitis B vaccine. N Engl J Med. 1983 Sep 8;309(10):614-5.

    Snider GB. Gogate SA. A possible systemic reaction to hepatitis B vaccine. JAMA 1985 Mar 1;253(9):1260-1.

    Fried M. Conen D. Conzelmann M. Steinemann E. Uveitis after hepatitis B vaccination. Lancet, 1987 Sep 12;2(8559:631-2.

    Shaw FE Jr. Graham DJ. Guess HA, et al. Postmarketing surveillance for neurologic adverse events reported after hepatitis B vaccination. Experience of the first three years. Am J Epidemiol 1988 Feb;127(s):337-52.

    Biron P. Montpetit P. Infante-Rivard C. Lery L. Myasthenia gravis after general anesthesia and hepatitis B vaccine. Arch Intern Med. 1988 Dec;148(12):2685.

    Goolsby PL. Erythema nodosum after Recombivax HB hepatitis B vaccine. N Engl J Med 1989 Oct;321:1198-9.

    Anonymous, hepatitis B vaccines: reported reactions. World Health Organization Adverse Drug Reaction Bulletin. August 1990.

    Cockwell P. Allen MB. Page R. Vasculitis related to hepatitis B vaccine. BMJ 1990 Dec 1;301(6763):1281.

    Tudela P. Marti S. Bonal J. Systemic lupus erthemoatosus and vaccination against hepatitis B. Nephron 1992 62(2):236.

    Ganry O. Lerailler F. Vercelleto M. Chiffoleau A. Larouse C. Peripheral facial paralysis following vaccination against hepatitis B. Apropos of a case. Therapie. 1992;47:437-438.

    Trevisani F. Gattinara GC. Caraceni P, et al. Transverse myelitis following hepatitis B vaccination. J Hepatol 1993 Sep;19(2):317-8.

    Mahassin F. Algayres JP. Valmary J, et al. Acute myelitis after vaccination against hepatitis B. Presse Med 1993 Dec 18;22(40):1997-8.

    Nadler JP. Multiple sclerosis and hepatitis B vaccination. Clin Infect Dis 1993 Nov:17(5):928-9.

    Brezin A. Lautier-Frau M. Hamedani M. Rogeaux O. Hoang PL. Visual loss and eosinophilia after recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Lancet 1993 Aug 28;342(8870):563-4.

    Trevisian G. Stinco G. Lichen rubber planus following HBV vaccination. Acta Dermato-Venereologica 1993 Feb;73(1):73.

    Castresana-Isla CJ. Herrera-Martinez G. Vega-Molina J. Erythema nodosum and Takayasu’s arteritis after immunization with plasma derived hepatitis B vaccine. J Rheumatol 1993 Aug;20(8):1417-8.

    Allen MB. Cockwell P. Page RL. Pulmonary and cutaneous vasculitis following hepatitis B vaccination. Thorax 1993 May;48(5):580-1.

    Deisenhammer F. Pohl P. Bosch S. Schmidauer C. Acute cerebellar ataxia after immunisation with recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Acta Neurol Scand 1994 Jun;89(6):462-3.

    Vautier G. Carty JE. Acute sero-positive rheumatoid arthritis occurring after hepatitis vaccination. Br J Rheumatol 1994 Oct;33(10):991.

    Hassan W. Oldham R. Reiter’s syndrome and reactive arthritis in health care workers after vaccination. BMJ 1994 Jul 9;309(6967):94.

    Aubin F. Angonin R. Humbert P. Agache P. Lichen planus following hepatitis B vaccination. Archives of Dermatology. 1994 Oct;130(10):1329-30.

    Birley HD. Arya OP. Hepatitis B immunisation and reactive arthritis. BMJ 1994 Dec;309(6967):1514.

    Poullin P. Gabriel B. Thrombocytopenic purpura after recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Lancet 1994 Nov;344(8932):1293.

    Di Lernia V. Lo Scocco G. Bisighini G. Erythema multiforme following hepatitis B vaccine. Ped Derma 1994 Dec;11(4):363-4.

    Fraser PA. Wilson JD. Reiter’s syndrome attributed to hepatitis B immunisation. BMJ 1994 Dec;309(6967):1513.

    Lilic D. Ghosh SK. Liver dysfunction and DNA antibodies after hepatitis B vaccination. Lancet 1994 Nov;344(8932):1292-3.

    Brezin AP. Massin-Korobelnik P. Boudin B., et al. Acute posterior multifocal placoid pigment epitheliopathy after hepatitis B vaccine. Arch Ophthal 1995 Mar;113(3):297-300.

    Gross K. Combe C. Kruger K. Schattenkkirchner M. Arthritis after hepatitis B vaccination. Report of three cases. Scand J Rheumatol. 1995;24(1):50-2.

    Kaplanski G. Retornaz F. Durand J. Soubeyrand J. Central nervous system demyelination after vaccination against hepatitis B and HLA haplotype. J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry 1995 Jun;58(6):758-9.

    Tartaglino LM. Heiman-Patterson T. Friedman DP. Flanders AE. MR imaging in a case of postvaccination myelitis. AJNR Am J Neuroadiol 1995;16(3):581-2.

    Macario F. Freitas L. Correira J., et al. Nephrotic syndrome after recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Clin Nephrol 1995 May;43(5):349.

    Germanaud J. Causse X. Trinh DH., et al. A case of severe cytolysis after hepatitis B vaccination. Amer J Med 1995 Jun;98(6):595-6.

    Meyboom RH. Fucik H. Edwards IR. Thrombocytopenia reported in association with hepatitis B and A vaccines. Lancet 1995 Jun;345(8965):1638.

    Aherne P. Collins M. Psoriatic arthropathy. Irish Medical Journal 1995 Mar-Apr;88(2):72.

    Guiserix J. Systemic lupus erythematosus following hepatitis B vaccine. Nephron 1996;74(2):441.

    Bonfils P. Biacabe B. Potard G. Aidan D. Fluctuant perception hearing loss after hepatitis B vaccine. Ann Otolaryngol Chir Cervicofac 1996;113(6):359-61.

    Baglivo E. Safran AB. Borruat FX. Multiple evanescent white dot syndrome after hepatitis B vaccine. Am J Ophthalmol 1996 Sep;122(3):431-2.

    Grezard P. Chefai M. Philipott V. Perrot H. Faisant M. Cutaneous lupus erythematosus and buccal aphthosis after hepatitis B vaccination in a 6-year old child. Ann Dermatol Venereol. 1996;123(10):657-9.

    Classen JB. The diabetes epidemic and the hepatitis B vaccines. New Zealand Med J. 1996 Sep;109(1030):366.

    Classen JB. Childhood immunisation and diabetes mellitus. New Zealand Med J 1996 May;109(1022):195.

    Manna R. De Santis A. Oliviero A., et al. Leukoencephalitis after recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. J Hepatol. 1996 June;24(6):764-5.

    Devin F. Roques G. Disdier P., et al. Occlusion of central retinal vein after hepatitis B vaccination. Lancet 1996 Jun;347(9015):1626.

    Cohen AD. Shoenfeld Y. Vaccine-induced autoimmunity. J Autoimmunity 1996 Dec;9(6):699-703.

    Mathieu E. Fain O. Krivitzky A. Cryoglobulinemia after hepatitis B vaccination. New England J Med 1996 Aug;335(5):335.

    Dauod MS. Dicken CH. Anetoderma after hepatitis B immunization in two siblings. J Amer Acad Dermo 1997 May;36(5 Pt 1): 779-80.

    Harrison BJ. Thomson W. Pepper L, et al. Patients who develop inflammatory polyarthritis (IP) after immunization are clinically indistinguishable from other patients with IP. Br J Rheumatol 1997 Mar;36(3):366-9.

    Wise RP. Kiminyo KP. Salive ME. Hair loss after routine immunizations. JAMA 1997 Oct 8;278(14):1176-8.

    Song HK. Kim HC. Yun YH. Acute Myelitis after hepatitis B vaccination. J Korean Med Sci 1997 Jun;12(3):249-51.

    Granel B. Disdier P. Devin F, et al. Occlusion of the central retinal vein after vaccination against viral hepatitis B with recombinant vaccines. 4 cases. Presse Med 1997 Feb 1;26(2):62-5.

    Saywell CA. Wittal RA. Kossard S. Lichenoid reaction to hepatitis B vaccination. Australasian J Derm 1997 Aug;38(3):152-4.

    Biacabe B. Erminy M. Bonfils P. A case report of fluctuant sensorineural hearing loss after hepatitis B vaccination. Auris, Nasus, Larynx 1997 Oct;24(4):357-60.

    Arya SC. Ophthalmic complications of vaccines against hepatitis B virus. Int Ophth 1997;21(3):177-8.

    Bracci M. Zopinni A. Polyarthritis associated with hepatitis B vaccination. British J Rheumatol 1997 Feb;36(2):300-1.

    Maillefert JF. Farge P. Gazet-Maillefert MP. Tavernier C. Mental nerve neuropathy as a result of hepatitis B vaccination. Oral Surg Oral Med Orla Path Oral Radio & Endo 1997 Jun;83(6):663-4.

    Ranieri VM. Dell’Erba A. Gentile A., et al. Liver inflammation and acute respiratory distress syndrome in a patient receiving hepatitis B vaccine: a possible relationship?. Intensive Care Medicine 1997 Jan;23(1):119-21.

    Kakar A. Sethi PK. Guillain Barre syndrome associated with hepatitis B vaccination. Indian J Ped 1997 Sept-Oct;64(5):710-2.

    Orlando MP. Masieri S. Pascarella MA., et al. Sudden hearing loss in childhood consequent to hepatitis B vaccination: a case report. Annals of New York Academy of Sciences 1997 Dec;830:319-21.

    Pope JE. Stevens A. Howson W. Bell DA. The development of rheumatoid arthritis after recombinant hepatitis B vaccination. J Rheumatol 1998 Sep;25(9):1687-93.

    Neau D. Bonnet F. Michaud M, et al. Immune thrombocytopenic purpura after recombinant hepatitis B vaccine: retrospective study of seven case. Scan J. Infect Dis 1998;30(2):115-8.

    Ronchi F. Cecchi P. Falcioni F, et al. Thrombocytopenic purpura as adverse reaction to recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Arch Dis Child 1998 Mar;78(3):273-4.

    Grasland A. Le Maitre F. Pouchot J, et al. Adult-onset Still’s disease after hepatitis A and B vaccination? Rev Med Interne 1998 Feb;19(2):134-6.

    Finielz P. Lam-Kam-San LF. Guiserix J. Systemic lupus erythematosus and thrombocytopenic purpura in two members of the same family following hepatitis B vaccine. Nephrol Dial Transplant 1998;13(9):2420-1.

    Le Hello C. Cohen P. Bousser MG. Letellier P. Guillevin L: Suspected hepatitis B vaccination related vasculitis. J Rheumatol, 1999 Jan;26(1):191-4.

    Renard JL. Guillamo JS. Ramirez JM, et al. Acute transverse cervical myelitis following hepatitis B vaccination. Evolution of anti-HBs antibodies. Presse Med 1999 Jul 3-10;28(24):1290-2.

    Tourbah A. Gout O. Liblau R. Lyon-Caen O, et al. Encephalitis after hepatitis B vaccination: recurrent disseminated encephalitis or MS? Neurology 1999 Jul 22;53(2):396-401.

    De Keyser F. Naeyaert JM. Hindryckx P, et al. Immune-mediated pathology following hepatitis B vaccination. Two cases of polyarteritis nodosa and one case of pityriasis rosea-like drug eruption. Clin Exp Rheumatol 2000 Jan-Feb;18(1):81-5.

    Konstantinou D. Paschalis C. Maraziotis T, et al. Two episodes of leukoencephalites associated with recombinant hepatitis B vaccination in a single patient. Clin Inf Dis 2001 Nov 15;33:1772-3.

    Creange A. Temam G. Lefaucher JP. Lumbosacral acute demyelinating polyneuropathy following hepatitis B vaccination. Autoimmunity 1999;30:143-6.

    Usman A. Kimyai-Asadi A. Stiller MJ. Alam M. Lichenoid eruption following hepatitis B vaccination: first North American case report. Pediatr Dermatol. 2001 Mar-Apr;18(2):123-6.

    Conesa V. Nunez MF. Navarro JF. Mompel A. Ruiz J. Gomez A. Thrombocytopenic Purpura after Recombinant Hepatitis B Vaccine. A rare association. Haematologica. 2001 Mar;86(3):E09

    Zaas A. Scheel P. Venbrux A. Helmann DB. Large artery vasculitis following recombinant hepatitis B vaccination. 2 cases. J Rheumatol. 2001 May;28(5):1116-20.

    Al-Khenaizan S. Lichen planus occurring after hepatitis B vaccination: a new case. J Am Acad Dermatol. 2001 Oct;45(4):614-5.

    Barbaud A. Trechot P. Reichert-Penetrat S. Weber M. Schmutz JL. Allergic mechanisms and urticaria/angioedema after hepatitis B immunization. Br J Dermatol. 1998 Nov;139(5):925-6.

    Ferrando MF. Doutre MS. Beylot-Barry M. Durand I. Beylot C. Lichen planus following hepatitis B vaccination. Br J Dermatol. 1998 Aug;139(2):350.

    Rabaud C. Barbaud A. Trechot P. First case of erythermalgia related to hepatitis B vaccination. Journal of Rheumatol. 26(1):233-4, 1999 Jan.

    Schupp P. Vente C. Lichen planus following hepatitis B vaccination. International Journal of Dermatol. 38(10):799-800, 1999 Oct.

    Maillefert JF. Sibilia J. Toussirot E., et al. Rheumatic disorders developed after hepatitis B vaccination. Rheumatol (Oxford). 1999 Oct;38(10):978-83.

    Fledelius HC. Unilateral papilloedema after hepatitis B vaccination in a migraine patient. A case report including forensic aspects. Acta Ophthalmol Scand. 1999 Dec;77(6):722-4.

    Muller A. Kertzscher F. Kiefel V. Lenk H. Thrombocytopenic purpura: adverse reaction to a combined immunisation (recombinant hepatitis B and measles-mumps-rubella-vaccine) and after therapy with Co-trimoxazole. Eur J Pediatr. 1999 Dec;158 Suppl 3:S209-10.

    Stewart O. Chang B. Bradbury J. Simultaneous administration of hepatitis B and polio vaccines associated with bilateral optic neuritis. Br J Ophthalmol. 1999 Oct;83(10):1200-1.

    Islek I. Cengiz K. Cakir M. Kucukoduk S. Nephrotic syndrome following hepatitis B vaccination. Pediatr Nephrol. 2000 Jan;14(1):89-90.

    Loche F. Schwarze HP. Thedenat B. Carriere M. Bazex J. Erythema multiforme associated with hepatitis B immunization. Clin Exp Dermatol. 2000 Mar;25(2):167-8.

    Viallard JF. Boiron JM. Parrens M. Moreau JF. Ranchin V. Reiffers J. Leng B. Pellegrin JL. Severe pancytopenia triggered by recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Br J Haematol. 2000 Jul;110(1):230-3.

    Toussirot E. Lohse A. Wendling D. Mougin C. Sjogren’s syndrome occurring after hepatitis B vaccination. Arthritis Rheumatol. 2000 Sep;43(9):2139-40.

    Sinsawaiwong S. Thampanitchawong P. Guillain-Barre syndrome following recombinant hepatitis B vaccine and literature review. J Med Assoc Thai. 2000 Sep;83(9):1124-6.

    Agrawal S. Garg VK. Joshi A. Agarwalla A. Sah SP. Lichen planus after HBV vaccination in a child: a case report from Nepal. J Dermatol. 2000 Sep;27(9):618-20.

    Flemmer M. Oldfield EC 3rd. The bald truth. Am J Gastroenterol. 1999 Apr;94(4):1104.

    Gran B. Bielekova B. McFarland HF. Martin R. Development of Multiple Sclerosis after hepatitis B vaccination. Neurol 2000;54(suppl 3):A164.

    Biasi D. Carletto A. Caramaschi P. Frigo A. Pacor M. Bezzi D., et al. Rheumatological manisfestations following hepatitis B vaccination. Report of three cases. Scand J Rheumatol. 1995;24:50-52.

    Rogerston SJ. Nye FJ. Hepatitis B vaccine associated with erythema nodosum and poly arthritis. BMJ. 1990;301:345.

    Wieland KK. Cohen MR. Hepatitis B vaccine: Recombivax reaction. Nursing. 88;18:87.

    Mamoux V. Dumont C. Lupus erthymatosus disseminatus and vaccination against hepatitis B virus. Arch Pediatr. 1994;1:307-309.

    Martinez E. Domingo P. Evan’s syndrome triggered by recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Clin Infect Dis. 1992;15:1051.

    AADRAC. Australian Adverse Drug Reactions Advisory Committee: Reactions to hepatitis B vaccines. Austr Adv Drug React Bull;1990.

    Nagafuchi S. Tokiyam K. Kashiwagi S. Yayashi S. Imayama S. Niho Y. Eosinophillia after intradermal hepatitis B vaccination. Lancet. 1993;342:998.

  • Roxanne

    Hi again, Tammy. I send this example of studies implicating vaccines (in this
    case, re. the Hep B Vaccine) in various health issues, just to give a sense of the scope of potential vaccine damage.

    *** The Hepatitis B Vaccine and Vision Loss:

    Albitar S, et al. Bilateral retrobulbar optic neuritis with hepatitis B vaccination. Nephrol Dial Transplant. 1997 Oct;12(10):2169-70.

    Achiron LR, et al. Postinfectious hepatitis B optic neuritis. Optom Vis Sci 1994;71:53-6. Arya SC., et al. Ophthalmic complications of vaccines against hepatitis B virus. Int Ophthalmol. 1997;21(3):177-8.

    Baglivo E, et al. Multiple evanescent white dot syndrome after hepatitis B vaccine. Am J Ophthalmol. 1996 Sep;122(3):431-2.

    Berkman N, Benzarti T, Dhaoui R, Mouly P., et al. [Bilateral neuro-papillitis after hepatitis B vaccination] Presse Med. 1996 Sep 28;25(28):1301. French.

    Berkman N. [A case of segmentary unilateral occlusion of the central retinal vein following hepatitis B vaccination]. Presse Med. 1997 Apr 26;26(14):670. French.

    Bourges JL, Pisella PJ, Laurens C, Limon S. [Multifocal placoid epitheliopathy and anti-hepatitis B vaccination] J Fr Ophtalmol. 1998 Nov;21(9):696-700. French.

    Brezin A, et al. Visual loss and eosinophilia after recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. Lancet. 1993 Aug 28;342(8870):563-4.

    Brezin AP, Massin-Korobelnik P, Boudin M, Gaudric A, LeHoang P., et al. Acute posterior multifocal placoid pigment epitheliopathy after hepatitis B vaccine. Arch Ophthalmol. 1995 Mar;113(3):297-300.

    Galli M, Morelli R, Casellato A, et al. Retrobulbar optic neuritis in a patient with acute type B hepatitis. Neurol Sci 1986;72:195-200.

    Granel B, et al. [Occlusion of the central retinal vein after vaccination against viral hepatitis B with recombinant vaccines. 4 cases]. Presse Med. 1997 Feb 1;26(2):62-5. French.

    McKibbin M, et al. Bilateral optic neuritis after hepatitis A. J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry. 1995 Apr;58(4):508.

    Voigt U, Baum U, Behrendt W, Hegemann S, Terborg C, Strobel J. [Neuritis of the optic nerve after vaccinations against hepatitis A, hepatitis B and yellow fever] Klin Monatsbl Augenheilkd. 2001 Oct;218(10):688-90. German.

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  • Naturgrl

    Wow!! I’ve been called all of those things (bad mother, riding on the herd immunity), and blamed for anything my son has had (cold, slight fever). It’s so great to read this and hear it from my point of view:)
    My son was a thriving infant, born at home, breast fed immediately, coslept with me since day one. At his 2 month check up, our ND recommended a Dtap shot (even though she knew we wanted to research and at least delay til he was a year old) . She said there was an outbreak in our city. She said he could die from pertussis. She said she gave it to her kids. So we said ok, just this one shot. My son seemed fine, if not a little bit fussy, but things for back to normal pretty fast. Well, they were after us to go in for more shots and more well visits to weigh him etc., which I avoided because just going to the doc to weigh my son exposed him to all sorts of crud. So, at his 5 month appt, a different doc (MD ) was there subbing for our doc and she brought in a polio and Dtap shot. We said we weren’t doing any more shots, she laughed. Then she proceeded to use the next hour to scare me so badly I finally caved. My son hadn’t been the same since.
    Our once amazing sleeper (woke twice a night to nurse most nights, but otherwise we got tons if sleep), started having night terror type fits every single night. He had a mild seizure the day after his shots and I called the doc right away, they told me it “wasn’t from the vaccines”. They didn’t even ask me to bring him in! They tell you to bring them in for a slight fever or sore throat, but not for vaccine injury symptoms??
    My son is 2.5 now and still shows all sorts of signs of his injury. I know there are worse reactions but I think this one is pretty bad.

    My doctor gave me all sorts of literature after berating me for hours each visit ( since switched docs :), and now I know why. “read this ” counts as educating your patients and avoiding lawsuits.

    I wish I could take back those shots. Everyday I wish it.

  • Jim Bob

    Just sayin’: You are correct. That’s my whole point about the breast feeding. The confusion between correlation and causation is a poor judge of scientific outcomes.
    As for your report:
    Firstly, its not a study. Second, its not scientific. Thirdly, it has not been published nor have the results been replicated any where else (which is a hallmark for results to be considered scientifically valid). Fourthly, its written by a hack. Fifthly, The research is from thirty years ago and there have been many more studies that have confirmed no correlation between DTaP and SIDS. In fact, all recent evidence suggests a decrease risk of SIDS for those who have been vaccinated with DTaP.
    But good effort cherry picking data.

  • Jim Bob

    I don’t think I’ve mentioned Offit’s name once. Although the man has saved a lot of lives.
    As for the 10,000 vaccines comment, its clearly taken out of context. If you look at the rest of the conversation surrounding that piece of text, you’ll realize that he was referring to the antigens in the vaccine. He was essentially saying that healthy babies are exposed to at least 10,000 antigens a day, so the antigens in a vaccine are a drop in the pond. This was to refute the “too many, too soon” anti-vaccine fallacy.

  • Of course, it is all just coincidence.

    http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/r/rotateq/rotateq_pi.pdf

    “Across the clinical studies, 52 deaths were reported. There were 25 deaths in the RotaTeq recipients compared to 27 deaths in the placebo (DTaP) recipients. The most commonly reported cause of death was sudden infant death syndrome, which was observed in 8 recipients of RotaTeq and 9 placebo (DTaP) recipients.”

  • AzSandrat

    I think the nurse should be disciplined. I think the mother should be arrested and prosecuted for neglecting her child.

  • Lou

    “I wish I could take back those shots. Everyday I wish it.”

    Thanks for sharing your story. IMO sharing your experience with “vaccination” damage is the next best thing to taking back those “vaccinations” pushed on you and your child. You are helping other mothers to avoid the pain you and your son had to endure.

    In addition to TOTALLY avoiding any more “vaccinations” and IMO most “Pediatricians” there are MANY things you can do to recover your son to good health. I would assume your son has or may be at risk for the diseases of “vaccination” and do all you are able to rectify this.

    Here is an autism protocol that lists many actions you can take, many of them should also prove helpful with “vaccination” damage.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_autism_intro.htm

  • Roxanne

    Hi AzSandrat, I’m afraid that’s a response that comes from ignorance concerning many things: the historical plummeting of death by infectious disease well before vaccination; why vaccinations by the mechanics of delivery and it’s toxic contents violate the developing blood-brain barrier, induces synergistic toxicity and demyelination; the inferiority and potential
    backfiring of artificial temporaral “immunity”; the pseudo-science behind vaccine trials; studies implicating vaccines in a huge of host of diseases and conditions; the documented politics of power and profit through the revolving door between industry and regulators etc….

  • Mike L.

    Yes, they were using toxic ammo such as depleted uranium
    another huge assault to the human body – but this does not explain the GWS that happened to soldiers who were vaccinated but who never ended up deployed.
    Also see: ‘SECRET SHOTS’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
    ‘Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment that is Killing Our Soldiers’ by Gary Matsumoto
    ” Even the Nazis didn’t run medical experiments on their own troops. This book explodes like a grenade. Read it, weep, better yet get mad.’
    Col. David H. Hackworth, U.S. Army, ret.

  • Mike L.

    Great, more and more toxins are making there way into breast milk, so that makes injecting neuro-toxins okay?
    At least, digestion allows for the body to process toxins
    more effectively. Injection doesn’t. Last I check, breast
    milk wasn’t being injected into infants.

  • Petruski

    Many children have died because parents refuse to get their children vaccinated. Polio, for example, would have been eradicate by now if not for ignorance.
    That said, the nurse should have explained need for vaccinations instead of the name calling.

  • uyuy

    Many children would have not been killed or maimed by vaccine adverse reactions had their parents refused to vaccinate them.

  • thunk

    An essential element in convicting a defendant with a crime is to establish intent. If a parent refuses to vaccinate based upon their understanding that a certain number of kids do in fact die or become irreparably maimed by vaccines then intent to harm does not exist on the part of the parent. However, intent to harm could be shown on the part of the MD or nurse that disregards parental desires to not vaccinate.

  • Lou

    Sir please spend a few hours on polio before you repeat the common propaganda.

    Let us sum up the “Polio Vaccine” Disaster

    The “diphtheria and pertussis vaccines” were used
    to drive up the occurrences of polio.

    Rockefeller Labs developed a new super virulent (25% paralysis) strain
    of the polio virus

    “Vaccination” and antibiotics, then new medical modalities, promote
    polio

    Tonsillectomies. very big after the war, promote polio

    All this caused the incidence of serious paralytic polio to skyrocket

    This caused a demand to “do something” about polio

    Next a “polio vaccine” was made with monkey kidneys known by some people to contain SV-40

    Doctor Bernice Eddy of NIH warned that SV-40 caused
    cancer in primates. She lost her research lab and research position. Those in charge of NIH silenced Doctor Eddy. Why?.

    The “cancer causing polio vaccine” was injected into hundreds of
    millions of poor trusting souls

    Fathers who were “vaccinated” passed the SV-40 to their offspring

    These offspring passed the SV-40 to their offspring

    These offspring passed the SV-40 to their offspring

    At least 75 strains of the polio virus now exist compared to 3 before
    the “polio vaccine” era.

    These new strains of polio have resulted in MANY new diseases such as
    Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

    This is a TERRIBLE result of “vaccination”; we
    are creating new disease with the “vaccines”.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_polio.htm

  • Lou

    These killed and maimed children IMO outnumber those “helped” by “vaccination” by at least a factor of 10; probably much, much higher..

  • uyuy

    If it was your child that died of a direct result of vaccines then would quote the tired mantra, “the benefits outweigh the risks.?” If a perfectly healthy child is vaccinated then sufers death or irreparable harm did the benefit out weigh the risk for that child? Are you willing to kill your own child in order to promote the so-called herd immunity?

  • Argus

    Still trying to change the subject, Jeffie?
    Let’s stay on topic. We are still waiting for your answer:

    Have you read the entire paper that you cited?

    How did you obtain access to it?

  • Lou

    Herd immunity as a result of “vaccination” is an easily disproved MYTH.

    “Vaccination” does NOT confer Herd Immunity

    “The original basis for herd immunity had nothing to do with vaccines. When sufficiently high numbers of people contracted the
    wild form of the disease and secured lifelong natural immunity, statisticians observed a protective effect in the community as described above. Policymakers eager to promote vaccines sought ammunition to increase vaccine uptake. Researchers assumed that vaccine-induced immunity would operate in the same manner as natural immunity and presumed that vaccines therefore would
    also create herd immunity. I am not a scientist but I know that
    vaccine-induced immunity is not remotely the same thing as natural immunity. Natural immunity is the gold standard. Vaccine-induced immunity is qualitatively different; for starters, vaccines do not always work and their protection wanes over time.” Louise Kuo Habakus

    “The problem is that there is in fact such a thing as natural herd immunity. But what’s they’ve done is they’ve taken this natural
    phenomenon and assume that vaccines will work the same way. However, they do not, and the science clearly shows that there’s a big difference between naturally arising herd immunity and vaccine-induced herd immunity.” Doctor Joseph Mercola MD

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_natural_immunity.htm

  • “We” being you and your employer? Do tell. — yes still waiting.

  • Roxanne

    Hi Petruski, I’d encourage you to look at the polio vaccine Trojan horse
    more critically

    The polio vaccine saviour myth is just that:
    1- Polio was already on the decline prior to the introduction of the vaccine
    2- The definition and diagnosis of Polio was changed after the vaccine thereby skewing stats to favour commercial interests
    3- The link between ‘polio-like paralysis’ and DDT spraying has been suppressed
    4- The devastation caused by both the Salk and Sabin vaccines has been suppressed including SV-40 linked to untold cancers.
    From 1923 to 1953 before the Salk killed virus vaccine was introduced, the polio death rate in the United States and England had already declined on its own by 47% and 55% respectively.
    ***International Mortality Statistics

    “Official data shows that large scale vaccination has failed to obtain any significant improvement of the diseases against which they were supposed to provide protection.”
    ***Dr. Albert Sabin, Developer of the Oral Polio vaccine

    “Prior to 1954 any physician who reported paralytic poliomyelitis was doing his patient a service by way of subsidizing the cost of hospitalization… two examinations at least twenty-four hours apart was all that was required… In 1955 the criteria were changed …residual paralysis was determined ten to twenty days after onset of illness and again fifty to seventy days after onset…This change In definition meant that in 1955, we started reporting a new disease… Furthermore, diagnostic procedures have continued to be Re-defined. Cocksackie virus infections and aseptic meningitis have been distinguished from poliomyelitis…Thus simply in the Change of diagnosis criteria, the number of paralytic cases was pre-deterrmined to decrease.”
    ***Dr. Bernard Greenberg, Chairman of the Committee on Evaluation & Standards of The American Policy Health Association during 1950s testifying before Congressional Hearings, 1962

    ***”After vaccination was introduced, cases of aseptic meningitis were reported as a separate disease from polio, but such were counted as polio before the vaccine was introduced. The Ministry of Health admitted that the vaccine status of the individual is a guiding factor in diagnosis…If a person who is vaccinated contracts the disease, the disease is simply recorded under a different name…Those who contracted polio after the first inoculation were placed on the non-inoculated list…It’s obvious that this practice of screening statistics, apparently in order to suppress facts unfavourable to immunization, invalidates most of the evidence brought forward by the supporters of immunization.”
    Maurice Meadow Bayly MRCS, LRCP, ‘The Case Against Vaccination’

    “The U.S.P.H.S. reported that more children who received the Salk vaccine made by Wyeth Labs suffered polio than could normally be expected.” Washington Bureau of the Detroit Free Press, 6/13/55
    “In 1957, a spokesman for the North Carolina Health Department made glowing claims for the efficacy of the Salk vaccine, showing how polio steadily decrease from 1953 to 1957. Hi figures were challenged by Dr. Fred Klenner who pointed out that it wasn’t until 1955 that a single person in the state received a polio vaccine injection. Even then injections were administered on a limited basis because of the number of polio cases resulting from the vaccine. It wasn’t until 1956 that a single person in the state received a polio vaccine Even then injections were administered on a limited basis because of the number of polio cases resulting from the vaccine. It wasn’t until 1956 that polio vaccinations assumed inspired proportion. The 61% drop in polio cases in 1954 was credited to the Salk vaccine when it wasn’t even in the state. By 1957 polio was on the increase.” Dr. Walene James, ‘Immunization: The Reality Behind the Myth’

    “Doctors and scientists on the staff of the National Institutes of Health during the 1950s were all aware that the Salk vaccine was causing polio. Some frankly stated that it was ‘worthless as a preventative and dangerous to take.’ They refused to vaccinate their own children. Health departments banned the inoculation. The Idaho State Health Director angrily declared ‘I hold Salk vaccine and its manufacturers responsible ‘for a polio outbreak that several killed Idahoans and hospitalized dozens more…” ‘Vaccines: Are They really Safe and Effective’, N. Miller citing ‘The Poisoned needle’ and data taken from government statistics as reported

    “Where compulsory vaccination was practiced as in North Carolina and Tenesse, Bealle’s investigations report a 400% increase in paralytic and non-paralytic polio during 1959 over 1958.”
    William Frederick Koch MD, PhD

    “I got a phone call… This was the health officer of the city of Los Angeles and he said they just got two reports of polio in sime children who had been vaccinated days earlier.”
    James Shannon, then Associate Director, National Institute of Health

    “English authorities have cancelled the Salk vaccine program as too dangerous.” Herbert Ratner MD Editor, Bulletin of Public Health Officials

    “When you inoculate children with a polio vaccine you don’t sleep well for two or three weeks.” Dr. Jonas Salk, Developer of the Killed Virus Polio Vaccine

    “In 1976, Dr. Jonas Salk, the developer of the killed-virus vaccine testified that the live virus vaccine was “the principal if not the sole” cause of polio in the U.S. since 1961” Washington Post 9/ 24/76

    “According to the CDC, 133 people contracted polio between 1980 and 1994. A total of 125 of those cases or an average of eight per year were caused directly by the oral polio vaccine, which consists of a live but weakened virus, the CDC said.” Associated Press, 1/ 20/97

    “We have heard of localities where the polio incidence rose after DDT spraying.” Rodale Encyclopedia of Common Diseases, 1963

    “It is quite clear that the authorities are keeping certain information secret. They do their best to hide their contributing role concerning the production and misuse of DDT behind a polio-virus and a supposed miracle-vaccine.” Gerhard Buchwald MD, citing ‘Polio: An Illness caused by pesticides?’ by Vlado Petek-Dimner

    “In 1983, via new legislation, DDT was allowed back into the U.S. marketplaces but only in pesticide blends. Within only a few months of this re-entry, a new kind of polio epidemic re-emerged labeled “post-polio”…this correlation is not even a whisper in the mainstream media…Central nervous system diseases continue: acute flaccid paralysis, chronic fatigue syndrome, encephalitis, meningitis, muscular sclerosis.” ‘Environmental Aspects of post Polio Syndrome’

  • Lou

    The real tragedy of “vaccination” is “vaccination” does not leave its fingerprints at the crime scene. SIDS is often the result of a direct “vaccination” kill.

    “While recording breathing of a number of babies, many of
    them were vaccinated and we could see within one hour the effect of vaccination on the stress level in breathing on our computer printouts. This started me off to initiate a thorough research of vaccination issues as published in referenced
    medical journals of the likes of the Lancet, British Medical Journal, New England Journal of Medicine etc. and resulted in the documentation of the causal link between administration of a great variety of vaccines and serious reactions including permanent brain damage and death. Indeed, vaccination is the single biggest cause of SIDS.” Doctor Viera Scheiber PhD

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_SIDS.htm

    But most of the time “vaccination” does its damage out of sight. For every case of autism there are IMO thousands of cases of serous “vaccine” damage. Indeed Doctor Andrew Moulden believes EVERY “vaccination” damages the child; weather or not we can perceive the damage. I concur with Doctor Moulden. This is just a logical conclusion given the evidence we have.

    “ALL vaccines are and have been causing ischemic (impaired blood flow) damages – to all – creating a plethora of chronic illnesses, disease, and in some instances…death.
    The injury from vaccination is additive, each vaccination further injures.” Doctor Andrew Moulden MD, PhD

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_Dr_Moulden.htm

  • josephine

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  • Lou

    Doctor Andrew Wakefield and Autism

    “Scientists and physicians from Wake Forest University, New York, and Venezuela, reported findings that not only confirm the presence of intestinal disease in children with autism and intestinal symptoms, but also indicate that this
    disease may be novel. [viii] Using sophisticated laboratory methods Dr. Steve Walker and his colleagues endorsed Wakefield’s original findings by showing molecular changes in the children’s intestinal tissues that were highly distinctive and clearly abnormal.” Wakefield proved correct

    ”Editor’s note: You’ve really got to check out and connect people to this interview Andy Wakefield did with Arthur Krigsman, one of the authors of the new journal article that confirmed unusual bowel disease in children with autism. That, you no doubt recall, is what the whole “discredited”
    Lancet paper was about lo these 15 years, and millions of autism cases, ago. Sadly, the denial of this reality plays out every day, including at Loyola hospital in Chicago where a 14-year-old boy is currently being treated as a psychiatric patient while his mother’s pleas to investigate his GI symptoms have so far gone unheeded.” Dan Olmsted

    Doctors have a name for triple shot vaccines: trivalents. Wakefield patiently explains the lack of science behind mixing 3 viral agents together in one triple shot vaccine
    cocktail like MMR. The problem is that viral agents have unpredictable effects upon each other, perhaps magnifying one vector or transforming it completely, while perhaps blocking another out. Possibilities are endless. The random,
    unknown outcome of mixing together viral agents is called viral interference. Mainstream researchers have been worried about viral interaction for decades. It is well known in the scientific literature, discussed in more than 2000 journal articles. (Wakefield- Through a Glass) Looking at the current Mandated Schedule of vaccines recommended for American children we see no less than seven triple shot
    injections mandated for every American child. (aapsonline) The Doctor Within

    “Dr Wakefield is now publicly demanding a retraction from the British Medical Journal and author Brian Deer. Documents just made public reveal that another medical research team which included a senior pathologist independently documented evidence of a possible MMR vaccine – autism link 14 months before Dr Wakefield’s
    paper first appears in The Lancet — based on several of the same children appearing in Dr Wakefield’s study.”

    British Medical Journal caught in highly politicized scientific fraud

    “How is it that this triple vaccine gets licensed?
    Why didn’t the trials spot the Urabe meningitis consequence? Why didn’t their trials show any of the results we found? They didn’t do it. They’ve got a single license for mumps, a single one for rubella, a single one for measles. So they go to the licensing agency and they say, each of these is licensed, we’ll just put them together. Give us a license.” Doctor Andrew Wakefield MD , Note if anything will get you attacked this is it; the SIMPLE TRUTH about “vaccination”. Untested toxic CRAP going into the blood stream of our children. Thank you Doctor Wakefield HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of your brother medical professionals need to SPEAK UP

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_autism.htm

  • AzSandrat

    I don’t know where you get your “facts” from, but you should do some more research. Here is the thing… based upon your logic… a certain number of children will be injured in a car accident because of the restraint systems used in their car seat. According to your logic, that should make it OK for parents to choose not to use a car seat for their children, and never mind the overwhelming evidence that car seats save children. A parent who does not put their child in a car seat does not intend to harm them, but will still be ticketed, and prosecuted for negligence if the child is injured or killed in a car accident. Back to vaccines… It’s the same thing, only when you don’t vaccinate your own child, you also put other people at risk.

  • thunk

    I get my info from the vaccine maker sanofi. They freely admit their product kills kids. Were do you get your info that seatbelts kill kids? Does ford and Chevy tell us that seatbelts kill kids? Vaccinated kids put other kids at risk. Ever heard of shedding?

  • AzSandrat

    Speaking of pseudo-science… The development of better understandings of disease and how to prevent them through better sanitation and through vaccination and inoculation is what caused the drop in rates in infectious disease. I’m afraid the ignorance is yours. You are not entitled to your own facts which flys in the face of overwhelming evidence presented by actual scientists rather than the insanity of a law firm and a doctor who saw riches to be obtained by creating a false vaccinations. Ask yourself what is more likely; that the thousands of doctors and researchers who mostly went into their fields to help people are all in cahoots to swindle the world? Or could it be a few people who want to create enough doubt about the facts that they can win in court and enrich themselves?

  • AzSandrat

    Ever heard of evidence? Where is yours?

  • AzSandrat
  • AzSandrat

    Statistics are funny things. They can be used, if carefully cherry picked, to “prove” just about anything. It’s pretty clear that the lawyers who want to sue “Big Pharma” over vaccines see gold and are willing to pay statisticians to “prove” their case. That the overwhelming evidence presented by the scientific community as a whole denies these claims is irrelevant, right? You’d rather support those gold hungry lawyers who want to sue Big Pharma. By the way, I’m not the tiniest bit a fan of pharmaceutical companies. The polio vaccine is one of the few that wasn’t patented, and it’s had amazing success. In todays world, that success could not have happened. http://www.drwile.com/lnkpages/render.asp?vac_effective

  • Derek Place

    To the vaccination conspiracy theory nut-bags….here is my middle finger saluting you.

  • dalek

    Australia. The air heads in NSW Byron Bay, and Sunshine Coast South Qld by denying vaccination to their infants caused an epidemic of the previously virtually eradicated Pertusis (Whooping Cough) This epidemic is now affecting the Aus population in general, and several babies/infants have died from it. Medical stats tell us that 1 in 200 infants die after contracting Pertusis. How long before polio, diptheria, etc make a resergence?. This website is guilty of infanticide. The right to free speech stops when you advocate policies that kill. Your “Deadly 5 in 1 Vaccine Kills At Least Eight” headline is the worst kind of Journalism. Drawing an inappropriate/logically false conclusion. Those who are rational, and bother to read it further may puzzle how a vaccine can cause Septicemia or Pneumonia. And what proportion the possible 5 were in the population vaccinated. 5 in 100? 5 in 100,000?. If the deaths, hypothetically were an indirect cause of the vaccination, what part did hospital hygiene, family hygiene have with the result?
    The “New Age” philosophies that promulgate this idiocy seem unaware that “New Age” is just 17th century superstition dressed up. And has potential to kill as as many people, especially infants as died in those no too long ago times. Count the tombstones in old cemeteries, and compare them with current infant deaths from 1960s onwards. BTW modern hygiene has nothing to do with reduction of the diseases mentioned. They are not spread by “dirty” people.

  • dalek

    The link between increase in deaths and idiotic views is fortunately NOT being supressed. The bottom line is that Polio is virtually unknown in any country with mass vaccination. WHO reports: “Polio cases have decreased by over 99% since 1988, from an
    estimated 350 000 cases then, to 223 reported cases in 2012. The reduction is the result of the global effort to eradicate the disease”

    “In 2013, only three countries (Afghanistan, Nigeria and Pakistan) remain polio-endemic, down from more than 125 in 1988.”

    I would venture to guess that the above reductions are not being caused by kisses from the fairies, and the prevalence in Afghan, Nig, and Pak are more than probably due to lack of adequate mass vaccination.

  • dalek

    Where DO you get this fantastic crap from? When you come out with such an outrageous statement, support it with scientific fact. The guy who sells healing crystals at the Saturday Markets is not good enough.

  • dalek

    This is a genuine SCIENTICALLY valid study done in AUS which does not support your SID statement.
    ——————————————————–
    Pediatrics. 2005 Jun;115(6):e643-6.

    Probability of coincident vaccination in the 24 or 48 hours preceding sudden infant death syndrome death in Australia.

    Brotherton JM, Hull BP, Hayen A, Gidding HF, Burgess MA.

    Source

    National
    Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance of Vaccine
    Preventable Diseases, Children’s Hospital at Westmead, University of
    Sydney, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia. [email protected]

    Abstract

    OBJECTIVE:

    Vaccination
    does not cause sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). However, SIDS peaks
    at 2 months of age, when vaccination encounters are frequent. There are
    no published estimates using population data on age of death and
    immunization coverage to indicate to practitioners how often coincident
    vaccination may occur by chance. This study aimed to determine the
    probability that an Australian infant who has died of SIDS was
    vaccinated in the days before death.

    METHODS:

    An
    analytical study of population death data and immunization coverage was
    conducted for Australian children who were born between April 1, 2002,
    and March 31, 2003. Also evaluated were Australian children who were
    registered as dying of SIDS between 1997 and 2001. The main outcomes
    measured were distribution of SIDS deaths by age and distribution of
    immunization coverage by age.

    RESULTS:

    The probability of
    recent vaccination and SIDS coinciding varied by age and day of the
    week of death. The overall estimated probability of vaccination within
    the last 24 hours for a child who has died of SIDS in Australia is
    estimated as 1.3%. In the last 48 hours, it is 2.6%. With the average
    number of SIDS deaths for the period 1997-2001 equal to 130 cases per
    year, we estimated that a case of SIDS will occur when vaccination was
    given in the last 24 hours in 1.7 cases per year and within 48 hours in
    3.5 cases.

    CONCLUSIONS:

    Although coincident vaccination
    and SIDS should not be a frequent problem, it can be expected to occur
    at least annually in Australia by chance alone. The probabilities of
    vaccination by age estimated in this study can also be applied to
    estimate the probability of a vaccination encounter for children who
    have experienced any unusual medical condition or death, when these
    occurrences are known to be unrelated to vaccination.

  • Lou

    Sir please support your outrageous position that children “vaccinated” for pertussis do not get pertussis.

    “In 1986 there were 1300 cases of pertussis in Kansas and 90 % of these cases occurred in children who had been adequately vaccinated. Similar vaccine failures have been reported from Nova Scotia where pertussis continues to be occurring despite universal vaccination. Pertussis remains endemic[4] in the Netherlands where for more than 20 years 96 % of children have received 3 pertussis shots by age 12 months.” Why-you-should-avoid-taking-vaccines

    “CDC data shows 84 percent of children under the age of 3 have received at least FOUR DTaP shots—which is the acellular pertussis vaccine that was approved in the United States in 1996—yet, despite this high vaccination rate, whooping cough still keeps circulating among both the vaccinated and unvaccinated. More likely than not, the vaccine provides very little if any protection, and this was evidenced very clearly in a study published in Clinical Infectious Disease.” 81 Percent of Whooping Cough Cases Occurred in People Who Were Fully Vaccinated

    “Sweden stopped its whooping cough vaccination program in 1979 when it was discovered that 84 percent of the children who fell ill from the disease had been vaccinated against it three times. And a study published in 1994 in the New England Journal of Medicine noted that more than 80 percent of American children under five with whooping cough had been fully vaccinated.”

    “A large study from Australia showed that the risk of developing encephalitis from the pertussis vaccine was 5 times greater than the risk of developing encephalitis by contacting pertussis by natural methods.” Why You Should Avoid Taking Vaccines , Note one of the reasons given to take the pertussis toxin “vaccine” was to supposedly prevent encephalitis

    “Here are a few functions of vitamin C, using whooping cough as the example: 1) The front line function of vitamin C is to bond with, and neutralize, circulating toxin, …. With whooping cough, the body manages the toxin until it runs out of vitamin C. Then the toxin builds up, the cough intensifies, and there is breakthrough into the blood. In babies with subclinical scurvy, (which the doctors never recognize …) the blood brain
    barrier weakens significantly – which can result in toxin going into the brain.” Vitamin C for Whooping Cough. Updated Edition. Suzanne Humphries, MD

    “The dangerous new strains of whooping cough bacteria were reported in March 2012. The vaccine, researchers said, was responsible. The reason for this is because, while whooping cough is primarily attributed to Bordetella pertussis infection, it is also caused by another closely related pathogen called B. parapertussis, which the vaccine does NOT protect against. Two years earlier, scientists at Penn State had already reported that the pertussis vaccine significantly enhanced the colonization of B. parapertussis, thereby promoting vaccine-resistant whooping cough outbreaks.” 5 Vaccines To Never Give A Child

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_pertussis.htm

    Sir may I suggest when advocating for “vaccination” you use a “vaccine” that is not widely regarded as an abject FAILURE

  • 90old

    Does anyone honestly believe that Bill and Melinda Gates care about third world people’s immune systems or health? Anyone? I believe Gates’ primary objective is population reduction via vaccination. Reduction of global populations. How does anyone ever know what is really in that vial being injected? Now that the vaxers are completely immune..the genocide can proceede.

  • Matt

    Why are my comments being deleted? Suppressing logical information is wrong.

  • Fed up Prof

    I am a lecturing virologist with a PhD in Biological Sciences. I urge you to stop trying to be “cool” and putting your child’s health at risk.

    I realize that many parents think that by not vaccinating that they are taking a stand against corporations, big pharma, and the man; but no, you are just being negligent. If you really want to fit in with the “cool” parents then shop at whole foods, drive an electric car, and recycle… hell wear only clothes made of hemp or repurposed from a homeless shelter. But vaccinate your kids, they are counting on you.

  • Many people are tired of being taught revisionist history, especially about vaccines. Maybe you can set yourself apart in this regard, but it doesn’t appear promising from your arrogant and sarcastic response.

    If you spoke out against vaccines I’m sure the possibility exists some of your grant money would likely disappear. Is that a fair assumption?

    Parents do not want to subject their children to one of Big Pharma’s experimental pet projects. The scientific community demonstrated how irresponsible their actions were regarding the SV40 contamination. The government, and scientific community at large, knew about the contaminated polio vaccine and decided to leave it on the shelves for political reasons.

    Lastly, I’m going to leave you with this.

    If you are a lecturing virologist, this means you are likely not a bio-chemist, epidemiologist, pathologist, allergist, neurologist, immunologist, pharmacologist, or physician.

    I seriously doubt you have looked at vaccines past you “lecturing virologist” filter.

  • Lou

    Sir please give us some evidence for why we are to inject extremely toxic substances, other poisons and live monkey and other non-human viruses directly into our HEALTHY children’s blood stream, bypassing all their bodies mechanisms that are designed to keep this poison out of their blood stream.

  • Lou

    Sir while I have you. I have some questions a lecturing virologist with a PhD in Biological Sciences may be able to answer. I am sure you are familiar with the introduction of Simian Virus 40 into the human race by the wonderful “polio vaccine”.

    “New studies have found that SV-40, a major contaminant of the polio
    vaccine until 1963, not only existed as a latent virus for the lifetime
    of those exposed to the vaccine but was being passed on to the next
    generation, primarily by way of sperm, something called vertical
    transmission. This means that every generation from now on will be
    infected with this known carcinogenic virus. There is also compelling
    evidence that some polio vaccines manufactured after 1963 may contain
    SV-40 virus.” Doctor Russell Blaylock MD

    o How many generations of humans will inherit the SV40? The vertical transmission of the SV40 has passed this cancer causing virus from father to offspring through three generations since the introduction of this toxic SV40 containing “vaccine”. I guess my question is do you see any mechanism that will stop this vertical transmission or will the vertical transmission of cancer causing SV40 continue FOREVER?

    o Please explain the above mechanism that may stop the transmission of the cancer causing SV40, if any, in detail.

    Thanks

    “Polio has not been eradicated by vaccination, it is lurking behind a redefinition and new diagnostic names like viral or aseptic meningitis. When the first, injectable polio vaccine was tested on some 1.8 million children in the United States in 1954, within 9 days there was huge epidemic of paralytic polio in the vaccinated and some of their parents and other contacts. The US Surgeon General discontinued the trial for 2 weeks.”
    Doctor Viera Scheibner PhD

    “The vaccinators then put their heads together and came back with a new definition of poliomyelitis. The old, classical, definition: a disease with residual paralysis which resolves within 60 days has been changed
    to a disease with residual paralysis which persists for more than 60 days.
    Knowing the reality of polio disease, this nifty but dishonest administrative
    move excluded more than 90% of polio cases from the definition of polio. Ever since then, when a polio-vaccinated person gets polio, it will not be diagnosed as polio, it will be diagnosed as viral or aseptic meningitis. According to one of the 1997 issues of the MMWR, there are some 30,000 to 50,000 cases of viral meningitis per year in the United States alone. That’s where all those 30,000 – 50,000 cases of polio disappeared after the introduction of mass vaccination. One must also be aware that polio is a man-made disease since those well-publicized outbreaks are misrepresented that those huge outbreaks were causally linked to intensified diphtheria and other vaccinations at the relevant time.” Doctor Viera
    Scheibner PhD

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_polio.htm

  • josh

    In your short remark you managed to use yourself in a genetic fallacy, while throwing out ad hominem’s and red herrings and it looks like you finished with an appeal to consequence. Very impressive!

  • josh

    If vaccines work and do indeed give immunity to disease, then how does your decision to not vaccinate hurt others? Also, most outbreaks consist of +90% vaccinated kids and many are even started by a vaccinated kid.

  • josh

    I have gone into apt with my sister and a few friends because they was afraid this will happen to her and know I will not cave. I will ask how exactly can something filled with toxins prevent any disease, when they can only casue them. They will usually say that the dose is to small to cause harm. Which I will state the many reasons why this blanket statement is nonsensical. They will change it to guilt tripping, at which point I will say ok i’ll go home and print up a document saying they are as safe as you claim and that you take full responsibility/liability if they cause adverse reactions. This has stopped the conversation very time because like you said the literature they pass out helps them not being liable. Im sorry that this happened to you, it happens far to much but at least you got away from doctors that are going to use fear mongering to pressure people into doing something they don’t want.

  • Matt

    Again, healthyprotocols.com is not reputable. Please consult your physician before making drastic decisions.

  • Matt

    Again, healthyprotocols.com is not reputable. Please consult your physician before making drastic decisions. ..

  • yuj

    I did and the pediatrician had my kid taken away by cps ,force vaccinated, then returned with a burn arm sustained while in state custody. He is lucky to have survived CPs and the vaccine.

  • AzSandrat

    Those of you who think it’s OK to ignore all of the actual science in favor of Internet “Doctors” (have you checked to see if they are actually doctors?) and more than 100 years of research… expect my kids to bully yours :) I’ll be sure to tell them that it’s totally ok to tease and bully people who choose ignorance and stupidity over reason and education.

  • Lou

    Sir if you can show me some good evidence of why I should put my health at serious risk for no PROVEN benefits I would like to see it. But since you CANNOT.

    I will NOT.

    Now how “reputable is that?

  • AzSandrat

    You actually answered your own question. Vaccines are not 100%. However, ensuring that the overwhelming majority of the population is vaccinated ensures that even those who are not protected by vaccines are still, in fact, protected. It’s call herd immunity.

  • qaz

    Nothing that is good for you requires a law to force little kids to get injected with it.

  • So forcing a drug and medical procedure on 100% of the population is called herd immunity?

    Look up the Nuremberg Code, pal.

  • josh

    There is no proof showing that vaccines protect from any disease. So I don’t care if they claim that they do indeed give herb immunity if a large part of the population is inoculated.

    I have asked pro vaccine people to produce one double-blind, placebo-controlled study that can prove the safety and effectiveness of vaccines and have never received one. This is only one example of questions that cant be answered, pertaining to the effectiveness and safety of vaccines.

  • Savanah

    It’s illegal in the US to sue “Big Pharma” over a vaccine.

  • Savanah

    All 50 states allow for vaccine exemptions for public school and no vaccines are required by law, nor is it legally considered neglect.

  • AzSandrat

    The degree to which the people here… non-scientists, are willing to defy what 99% of the medical profession has told them is fact, is truly astonishing. Ya’ all therapy.

  • AzSandrat

    My point: they should be legally required and parent who refuse should be prosecuted for negligence. Frankly, ya’ all need therapy. You stand in defiance of 99.99% of the medical community declaring that, with no education or background to support your claims, everyone else is wrong. Insane is a strong word, but clearly, delusional is appropriate.

  • asz

    Now you know how Galileo felt. Poor Galileo just would not submit that the idea that the entire universe circled the earth.

    Seriously, the vaccine court is telling us that vaccines kill and maim in a very big way.

  • Guest

    Right. You have to show damages and grounds for the suit. You don’t get to sue just because you read something on the interwebs.

  • AzSandrat

    Right. You have to show damages and grounds for the suite. You don’t get to sue just because you read something on the interwebs.

  • Savanah

    No, it is illegal to sue them over a vaccine period. The United States created a law making them immune from lawsuits.

  • AzSandrat

    Really? And what law is that? Are you talking about the SCOTUS case which basically said that if a parent of a child injured by a vaccine is unhappy with the outcome of a case in the special court established in 1986 to handle vaccine cases, that they can’t sue in regular court? Because that’s not really the same thing as banning suites, is it?

  • Emma

    That nurse was right. Stop following this ridiculous trend of not vaccinating. All these parents have issues, thing all these trained doctors are out to kill their kids. Vaccinations aren’t a scam, they’re lifesaving.

  • A. Francis

    Should I be on the receiving end of that note I’ll slap her silly and whoever defending her. Arrogant & ignorant snobbish person deserved to be treated the same way.

  • AzSandrat

    I really hope you get the help you so desperately need. I’m sure a mild dose of lithium would help.

  • Lou
  • Lou

    “Vaccines, are unavoidably unsafe.” US Supreme Court
    Feb 2011. Well not quite Guys, vaccines are quite safe for humans if they are NOT USED on humans. We avoid the horror of “vaccines” by NOT USING them.

    “Roughly 30-50% of the population has undiagnosed learning disabilities.[2] Almost 3 million children (ages 6 through 21) have some form of a learning disability and receive special education in school.[3] Since 1992, the percentage of students who spend 80% or more of their time in school in special education classes increased from 21% to 45%.[4] Specific learning disabilities have increased 22% over the past 25 years. In the past decade, the number of students ages 6-21 years identified with specific learning disabilities has increased by 38%.[5] In 2003, approximately 7.8% of U.S. children aged 4-17 years had ADHD diagnosed. Why?” Note the 25 mcg of MERCURY and other garbage many kids are getting in their “flu shot” and other “vaccines” is IMO a good part of these problems

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_vs_unvacc_Child.htm

  • Lou

    “While recording breathing of a number of babies, many of
    them were vaccinated and we could see within one hour the effect of vaccination on the stress level in breathing on our computer printouts. This started me off to initiate a thorough research of vaccination issues as published in referenced
    medical journals of the likes of the Lancet, British Medical Journal, New England Journal of Medicine etc. and esulted in the documentation of the causal link between administration of a great variety of vaccines and serious reactions including permanent brain damage and death. Indeed, vaccination is the single biggest cause of SIDS.” Doctor Viera Scheiber PhD

    “Studies internationally have shown vaccination to be a cause of SIDS9,10 (SIDS, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, is a “catch-all” diagnosis given when the specific cause of death is unknown; estimates range from 5,000 to 10,000 cases each year in the US). One study found the peak incidence of SIDS occurred at the ages of 2 and 4 months in the U.S., precisely when the first two routine immunizations are given,11 while another found a clear pattern of correlation extending three weeks after
    immunization. Another study found that 3,000 children die within 4 days of vaccination each year in the U.S.
    (amazingly, the authors reported no SIDS/vaccine relationship), while yet another researcher’s studies led to the conclusion that at least half of SIDS cases are caused by vaccines.12 In the mid 1970’s Japan raised their vaccination age from two months to two years; their incidence of SIDS dropped dramatically;14”

    “Dr. Kalokerinos, a medical GP working in the Australian outback with the Aborigines, discovered that vitamin C
    prevents sudden infant deaths (SIDS) brought on by malnutrition and by the introduction of immunization shots. Infants near death were revived by vitamin C injections, and the 50% death rate (hence the title) in the region dropped to
    near zero during his 8-year practice. Deaths rose to former levels after he was drummed out by the Australian health authorities.” Doctor Kalokerinos Note: So vitamin C stopped the murder and they removed the vitamin C. Looks like case closed; deliberate MURDER by “vaccination.”

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_SIDS.htm

  • Savanah

    A vaccine court was set up that bypasses our civil courts. The manufacturer does not have anything to do with it – no attorneys, no presence, no involvement whatsoever, and they don’t pay a penny for damages that are awarded. So, please explain how that is lawyers wanting to get rich from suing “Big Pharma.”

  • AzSandrat

    And you are supporting that with what evidence? Oh, I see… none. I’ll stick to the facts instead of mindless rhetoric. You should try it some time.

  • Kevin Weinberg

    This website and all the people commenting on it are so delusional that it’s ALMOST funny. It’s not, though, because you people actually exist.

    It’s almost like you idiots have never opened a history book to see how many THOUSANDS of people used to die each year from the things we’re vaccinated against today.

    ANY MOTHER who intentionally does not have their child vaccinated is an unfit parent, a bad mother, and a parasite of our society. I pray that God will send a social worker to your households to rescue your abused children from the clutches of evil that is your parenting.

    GOOD PARENTS VACCINATE THEIR CHILDREN; BAD PARENTS LET THEIR CHILDREN DIE TO AGE-OLD PREVENTABLE ILLNESSES.

    This could be YOUR child someday:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/8199964/We-were-hippies-about-it

  • Kevin Weinberg

    This is a sad story. I can’t believe that doctor did not call social workers to have your children removed from his or her unfit parents, who are purposely allowing their child to be exposed to lethal diseases.

    Shame on you, Emma.

    You are bad mother. Your children need to be vaccinated.

    Every single time an infant dies of pertussis, it’s because that infant came into contact with someone who was not properly vaccinated.

    Anti-vaxx murderers sicken me.

  • Tell me more about what a bad parent I am. I actually vaccinated my child and he became neurologically injured. This is the case for many parents.

    The amount of unenlightened and unoriginal arrogance in your comment is disturbing.

  • Emma Moorby

    You need to educate yourself before you judge others.
    I was lucky a doctor spoke out to me and told me the truth about vaccines causing the diseases they are supposed to protect against, and damaging immune systems by making them act in a totally unnatural way.Let alone all the toxins the vaccines contain that cause neurological damage, as you will read from others here.
    My children have had pertussis as toddlers and funnily enough didn’t die! or anyone else for that matter.
    DO YOUR HOMEWORK !!!!!!

    You are arrogant and ignorant, you don’t know me or what I do to protect my children, if you did you wouldn’t have said these things, which are slander by the way.

  • handemtruth

    Mr. Weinburg,
    Not certain which law system you are under but we in the USA are under the Constitution and the government is under the bill of rights. “I pray that God will send a social worker to your households to rescue
    your abused children from the clutches of evil that is your parenting.” You should know that “social workers” are state actors aka government agents and that they and all state actors are governed by the 4th amendment. Absent a lawful warrant, probable cause, exigent circumstance, or parental consent the social worker seizing of a child would be both unreasonable, unlawful, and unconscionable. Any attempt to kidnap a child from his parents obligates those parents to, by any means necessary, intervene to stop that unreasonable seizure. Many social workers have been successfully sued for monetary damages here in the USA. Going forward I predict many more will be sued.
    You obviously have no problem advocating that people ought to deprive children of their 4th amendment rights go so far as to pray for such violations. Refusing to vaccinate does can not and does not present an exigency or probable cause to seize a child.

  • Kevin Weinberg

    Breast milk contains more of the toxin aluminum than vaccines do, FYI.

    It is YE who hath not done thy research.

    You trust blogs more than the combined knowledge of the entire scientific community. And you put the lives of your and others’ children at risk,

    Personally, if I were the one making the laws, you would be presented with a choice: forced vaccination or the incineration chamber.

    Sometimes sacrifices must be made to protect the greater good.

  • Emma Moorby

    Troll!!!
    FY silly boy.

  • The entire scientific community? Who, exactly, is that? And just to warn you – if you continue with veiled threats, don’t bother posting here again.

  • julianna

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo

    please watch this. It summarizes vaccinations perfectly

  • concerned biochemist

    “a lecturing virologist” has to have a PhD in virology which requires multiple years of biochemistry. The simian virus contamination (I seriously suggest you look at the original) or at least this: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10472327 study, you’ll see that the polio vaccine in its infancy was contaminated, but after 1961 it was not. Our vaccine efficacy and safety is on a whole new level with genomic sequencing previously unavailable. I urge you and others to do their due diligence.

  • The production of vaccines may be clean, per se, but not sterile. There are countless examples of vaccine contamination outside of SV40.

    So when you *wink* and say, “trust me, they’re safe…” I have a difficult time believing you have done your due diligence on the matter.

  • D

    If you are encouraging bully behavior in your kids that in itself already shows that you are an unfit parent regardless of whether or not you chose to vaccinate your children.

  • Guest

    Not according to the law :) Which is your defense for putting others kids at risk from preventable diseases, right? I’ll tell you that you are stupid and my kids will tell your kids that you are stupid. That is the MILDEST of the logical consequences for not vaccinating. The most severe logical consequences will be dead children. Maybe yours. Maybe someone else’s but still YOUR fault.

  • AzSandrat

    How dare you judge how I raise my kids! I have a right to raise my children in accordance with my personal beliefs and anyone who would say otherwise is a communist, a fascist or a junkie or all three!

  • AzSandrat

    Nonsense. You may think that makes a pretty sound bite, but it has the odor of something extracted from your lower-most orifice.

  • AzSandrat

    Don’t be stupid. Vaccine court is an acknowledgement that there is a certain number of people who may react badly to a vaccine. There is a much, much, MUCH larger number of people who will react badly to measles, mumps, rubella, and many other preventable diseases. In spite of that, big pharma is required to compensate people who are injured by vaccines. Tell me, will you fact-deniers compensate the parents of a child who hasn’t come of age to get the MMR vaccine after your kid infects them? I think you should. I also think you should have your children removed from your home and taken someplace safe.

  • AzSandrat

    Sorry, Lou… you failed to mention your creds. Got any? Or did you just read that crap on the already proven to be bunk website you linked to?

  • AzSandrat

    That would require them to get off their butts and go to a University Library. Doubt most of them have ever set foot in one. They’d rather look it up on the Intertubes.

  • AzSandrat

    Says the guy trying to give legitimacy to the drivel he is selling in his books. Eventually, Jeffry will join the people who used to tell us that marijuana would cause sterility in girls and cause boys to grow breasts. The one thing that is clear from what you are promoting, Jeffry, is that you will do anything for a buck.

  • qwest

    Gee AzSandrat, are you having a hissy fit? Your kids are fully vaccinated? Other than cognitive impairment, cancer, and chronic disease your kids should be right as rain.

  • Lou

    Well Sir you may wish to update your knowledge of Simian Viruses.

    “Latent viruses were such a problem with primary monkey
    kidney cells that a worldwide moratorium on the licensing of all polio virus vaccines was called in 1967 because of death and illnesses that occurred in monkey kidney workers and vaccine manufacturing facilities’. The contaminating
    virus then blamed was the deadly Ebola. This was most serious, but again I could find no record of the public being informed about this suspension or the Ebola.” From official US transcripts of recent unreported meetings of US and UK vaccine safety scientists

    “It’s a very common polyoma virus of old world monkeys, and particularly rhesus macaques. The difficulty with this was that, when the rhesus macaque monkeys are sacrificed and a primary monkey kidney culture made from him or her, as the case may be, a silent infection is set up. So there is evidence of infection [found] just by looking at the cultures. In fact, these cultures can throw out as much SV40 as they do polio [virus].’ The problem was that the cell
    cultures didn’t show any sign of having defects, when they were actually infected with SV40. It seemed that SV40, and its accompanying proteins and genetic codes, would never have got into so many humans if they had not contaminated the vaccine – and that they were only dangerous when moved into a species for which their presence was not natural – such as into humans and into cynomolgus (African Green) monkeys. Wild caught monkeys were being used extensively in vaccine production. Up to a half of the cultures would have been thrown away because of adventitious agent contamination, mainly foamy virus, but certainly other things as well.” Dr Minor, UK’s top vaccine safety officer

    “The top UK government expert present at this conference, Dr Phil Minor of the National Institute of Biological Standards and Control, added that the polio vaccine had
    originally been so polluted that it’s doses contained as much monkey virus as poliovirus! I had no idea that so much monkey virus was in this vaccine given to hundreds of millions of children. Then there was another shock for me. I
    had been assured two years earlier at the SV40 Workshop that the polio vaccine was no longer contaminated with SV40 – and consequently I had so assured the UK
    public in our resulting Channel 4 television documentary. Now I learn I had been misled and consequently had seriously misinformed the public. Scientists reported to this meeting that ‘SV40 sequences’ remained in the poliovirus seed used for the current polio vaccines.” From official US transcripts of recent unreported meetings of US and UK vaccine safety scientists

    http://jabs.org.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2855

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_polio.htm

    By the way while I have you please explain how unknown Simian Viruses are “filtered” out of the finished “vaccine”. TIA

  • Lou

    Ah now we speak of the sordid history of “vaccination”.

    “Vaccination programs in the late 19th and early 20th century decimated the populations of many countries where government sponsored vaccination programs were introduced. Japan suffered 48,000 deaths from smallpox vaccination; England and Wales experienced 45,800 smallpox deaths in a population that was 97% vaccinated against smallpox. Australia and
    Germany combined with a total of 120,000 deaths from the very smallpox for which they had been vaccinated. European deaths amongst the vaccinated portion of the population totaled 3,000,000. Deaths from smallpox vaccination programs began to decline when a revolt against mandatory vaccination programs emerged from the chaos. Within twenty years mandatory smallpox vaccination laws in England were repealed. In 1919 the death rate from smallpox promptly plummeted to a total of 28 deaths in a population of almost 40,000,000 people. Previously, with
    mandatory vaccinations they had averaged over 44,000 deaths from smallpox.” Vaccination History

    “A huge outcry amongst the public ensued Over 100 union parishes
    ripped up the local vaccination ordinances in 1872, and instead called in the Sanitary engineers, and started putting in sewage disposal plans, rubbish dispose, proper corpse disposal and jointed pipes to ensure uncontaminated water. Those were the measures officially adopted under the Public Health Act in 1875. the offical records states that those
    parishes were the ones that by and large escaped the 1878 smallpox epidemic.”

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_history.htm

    The belief in “vaccination” by otherwise intelligent souls is delusional insanity.

  • Lou

    This website and all the people commenting on it are so delusional
    that it’s ALMOST funny. It’s not, though, because you people actually
    exist.

    Cant, nothing said.

    It’s almost like you idiots have never opened a history book to see
    how many THOUSANDS of people used to die each year from the things we’re vaccinated against today.

    http://genesgreenbook.com/resources/obamsawin/ImmunizationGraphs-RO2009.pdf

    ANY MOTHER who intentionally does not have their child vaccinated is
    an unfit parent, a bad mother, and a parasite of our society. I pray
    that God will send a social worker to your households to rescue your
    abused children from the clutches of evil that is your parenting.

    Opinion a very misinformed opinion.

    GOOD PARENTS VACCINATE THEIR CHILDREN; BAD PARENTS LET THEIR CHILDREN DIE TO AGE-OLD PREVENTABLE ILLNESSES.

    Cant, nothing said.

    Please Sir show us some EVIDENCE! Any evidence.

  • Kevin Weinberg

    You would like some evidence, would you? Why of course! I would be happy to oblige. Although, I highly doubt any amount of evidence will sway your opinions, as they are not based on “intelligent thought” but instead just the word of Jenny Mcarthy.

    But alas, if you’d like some evidence, I’ll be more than happy to give it to you.

    Everything I am about to link is from credible sources that have distinguished themselves as respectable members of the scientific community. Have fun!

    http://www2.aap.org/immunization/families/faq/vaccinestudies.pdf

    http://www.vaccinateyourbaby.org/pdfs/Recent%20Scientific%20Studies%20on%20Thimerosal%20and%20Autism%201%208%2008.pdf

    http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2013/The-Childhood-Immunization-Schedule-and-Safety.aspx

    http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/short/298/18/2155

    http://adc.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstract/adc.2007.122937v1?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&author1=baird&andorexactfulltext=and&searchid=1&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&resourcetype=HWCIT

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15364187?dopt=Abstract

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11581466&query_hl=66

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15184908&query_hl=10

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=15342824&query_hl=5

    http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/357/13/1281

    http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2011/07/21/peds.2010-3385.abstract

    I have about eight to nine-hundred more of these. Let me know when you’ve finished reading these research papers and we can move on.

    Oh, but who am I kidding, right? You know better than all the world’s scientists, don’t you?

  • wht

    I asked a pediatrician by the name of Richard Carrie , MD ( working in the Doctors Hospital of Augusta owned by HCA in Georgia) what the incidence rate of tetanus was in the USA . Also asked him if there was mercury in the tetanus vaccine. Cartie told me that he did not know the incidence rate of tetanus and that the tetanus vaccines contained no mercury (it surely does according to the manufacturer).

    I refused to provide informed consent for the administration of the tetanus vaccine to my son to this pediatrician. Dr. Cartie then proceeded to call the police on me, then CPS. All of this resulted in my son being unreasonably seized by state actors, son being force vaccinated with DT. While in state care son was neglected resulting in physical injury to his arm.

    My son was kidnapped by hospital staff because I refused a tetanus vaccine. A vaccine is not an emergency medical treatment and the manufacturer is adamant that DT not be used used as a treatment.

    Cartie, many medical staff, admin, the Doctors Hospital, social workers, and a judge are now defendants in a civil suit wife and I have brought against them.

  • mary

    This study concludes tetanus is a nonimmunizing disease:
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajp.1350030103/abstract

  • AzSandrat

    A hissy fit? If that is the term for being outraged by ignorant people who don’t care who dies as long as they can make a buck selling a book, they yep, guess I’m having one. Since the odds are about 1/1000000 against my kids being seriously harmed by vaccines, I’m ok with the risks. Especially when you consider that the chances of serious harm from measles, mumps or rubella are about 1/1000 (that’s how many die from these diseases).

  • comb

    If your kid was that 1 in 1m that died from a vaccine then you would be fine with that death? You would refuse to take your case to the vaccine court? Is this correct?

  • Lou

    http://www2.aap.org/immunizati

    Please link to a document designed to be read.

    Recent Scientific Studies on Thimerosal and Autism

    Please select one and any specific evidence from such.

    http://www.iom.edu/Reports/201

    The iMO is a well know “vaccination” shill with conflicts of interest too numerous to list.

    “Roughly 30-50% of the population has undiagnosed learning disabilities.[2] Almost 3 million children (ages 6 through 21) have some form of a learning disability and receive special education in school.[3] Since 1992, the percentage of students who spend 80% or more of their time in school in special education classes increased from 21% to 45%.[4] Specific learning disabilities have increased 22% over the past 25 years. In the past decade, the number of students ages 6-21 years identified with specific learning disabilities has increased by 38%.[5] In 2003, approximately 7.8% of U.S. children aged 4-17 years had ADHD diagnosed. Why?” Note the 25 mcg of MERCURY and other garbage many kids are getting in their “flu shot” and other “vaccines” is IMO a good part of these problems

    Objective To compare morbidity and mortality before and after widespread implementation of national vaccine recommendations for 13 vaccine-preventable diseases for which recommendations were in place prior to 2005.

    Pertussis amply demonstrates these “13 vaccine preventable diseases” do not exist.

    I wish to hell someone would invent a “vaccine” for deception.

    “An Africa study done in 2000, covering a six-year period and examining the health of 15,000 children, showed that the death rate from diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough was twice as high in vaccinated children compared to unvaccinated children.” More Vaccines or Better Nutrition Prevents Disease? Note if this study were held in the US the results may be the same. No worries vaccination” is not tested in the good ole USA.

    “Let’s take whooping cough as an example. In 1979 Sweden withdrew use of the DTP vaccine on the basis that it was not effective and possibly unsafe. The fear, of course, would be that with lower vaccination rates, the death rate would increase. So what happened in this case? A 1995 letter from Victoria Romanus at the Swedish Institute of Infectious Disease Control indicated that deaths from whooping cough remained near zero. Sweden’s population was 8,294,000 in 1979 and 8,831,000 by 1995. From 1981 to 1993, eight children were recorded as dying, with the cause of death listed as pertussis. This averaged to be about 0.6 children per year possibly dying from whooping cough. These numbers show that the odds of dying from pertussis in Sweden were about 1 in 13,000,000 even when there was no national vaccination program. [6]”

    “There are only a handful of deaths attributed to whooping cough in the United States each year, and most of
    those are infants––some of whom are too young to get the vaccine. So why is the CDC now pushing for every person to be immunized [sic.] in infancy and then receive five more booster vaccinations as they advance into adulthood and old age? You have almost no chance of getting whooping cough as an infant, and you have even less chance as an adult.” Doctor William Douglass MD, Note, MANY studies have shown this “vaccine” is near worthless at preventing the disease in the US and MANY countries have banned it. IMO what the CDC et al are doing is suppressing the immune systems of our helpless infants and the rest of us too, pure and simple

    “Jordan pointed out that in 1915 the pertussis vaccine became available and was widely given. This bacterial poison from whopping cough, called pertussis coxon, so
    depresses the immune system that it is used in laboratories today to turn off nutrafils and reduce white blood cell counts.” Vaccine Induced Cytokine Storm

    “In 1986 there were 1300 cases of pertussis in Kansas
    and 90 % of these cases occurred in children who had been adequately vaccinated. Similar vaccine failures have been reported from Nova Scotia where pertussis continues to be occurring despite universal vaccination. Pertussis remains endemic[4] in the Netherlands where for more than 20 years 96 % of children have received 3 pertussis shots by age 12 months.” Why-you-should-avoid-taking-vaccines

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_pertussis.htm

  • Kevin Weinberg

    Sorry, but nothing you just wrote counts. It has to be peer-reviewed to be science.

    Please link me peer-reviewed research published in a respected scientific journal or similar accredited institution.

    Nothing you wrote counts, as anyone can write down anything they want, but it doesn’t make it true.

    You are quoting from an article written on “Vaccinetruth.org”

    Sorry, but they are not a respected scientific institution. Please find me some empirical evidence linking autism to vaccines.

    You won’t be able to find any, though. Because autism is not caused by vaccines. Did you even read any of the links I sent you?

    Unlike what you’re quoting, these were from credible sources.

    I’m sorry if you feel this is unfair, but as a man of science, I simply cannot and will not base my beliefs on unscientific hogwash invented by “blogger moms” who put their faith in celebrities and not science.

    You need to talk science WITH science.

  • Lou

    This is a genuine SCIENTICALLY valid study done in AUS which does not support your SID statement.
    ——————————————————–

    Would this be underwritten by the same people who profit on “vaccination”? Oh I see it is. Reminds me of all those SCIENTICALLY valid studies underwritten by those IOM members while they take the hundreds of millions from the Vaccination Industry. Can you spell C O N F L I C T OF I N T R E S T

    Pediatrics. 2005 Jun;115(6):e643-6.

    Probability of coincident vaccination in the 24 or 48 hours preceding sudden infant death syndrome death in Australia.

    Are these “study” geniuses aware that the window of “vaccination” injury is much wider? Yes they are.

    OBJECTIVE: Vaccination does not cause sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). However, SIDS peaks …

    So lets see you are proposing a study to see IF “vaccination” is associated with SIDS and your first statement is that “vaccination” does cause SIDS. Does this seem strange? Yes it does and throws out this piece of trash study a priori.

    Unfortunately this is the ilk of fake “studies” purporting to show “vaccination” is not killing and maiming our kids. Just look at the epidemiology. Yes I know it does prove anything.

    We do not need “studies” by shills and profit mongers. We need protection for our children from such ghouls..

  • comb

    How is it that aap has any credibility whatsoever?
    Aap is from silly to criminal.

  • comb

    Vaccines do not cause autism among the unvaccinated.

  • comb

    If the eating of food works so well in eliminating hunger then why are grocery stores and farmers not free from civil and criminal liability in the operation of their business?

    If vaccines work so well then why are vaccine makers and their injectors free of all liability?

  • Kevin Weinberg

    How do they have any credibility you ask?

    Another great question!

    Well, for one, they’ve been around for 84 years, and in that time, they have become a world leader in pediatric publishing, but that in and of itself does not make them reputable.

    What makes them reputable is how strictly they adhere to the scientific method. The AAP follows all ethics and procedures in their research; their standards are outstandingly high.

    There is a reason that over 60 THOUSAND pediatricians support the AAP and its claims.

    How many pediatricians feel that vaccines are harmful?

    In 2011, the count was at 84 (those who publicly admitted to being against vaccines)

    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2011/02/13/vaccines-get-the-full-story/

    So, 60,000 (sixty thousand) doctors think that children should be vaccinated.

    84 think that they shouldn’t.

    That means that only 0.1399% of pediatricians are AGAINST vaccines, and 99.8601% of doctors are for them.

    If this doesn’t serve as a wake up call, then nothing will.

  • Lou

    “Sorry, but nothing you just wrote counts. It has to be peer-reviewed to be science.”

    Sir you will always be a sheep if you truly believe this.

    Is 2 plus 2 equal to 4?

    There is Science and there are articles published in peer reviewed publications.

    Science is about the discovery of truth; nothing more, nothing less. When “science” becomes a slave of the state “science” in not about the truth and is not Science.

  • Kevin Weinberg

    Oh, I’m a sheep am I? Why? Because I have high standards and I only trust science that has empirical evidence and has been peer reviewed?

    Science is not “the pursuit” of truth. That’s a gross oversimplification.

    Science is a system of STUDY of the OBSERVABLE WORLD.

    It only works with great care.

    Peer-reviewing is only one part of the method; there needs to be experimentation, observation, and hours upon hours of research for a claim to have any validity.

    In the case of autism and vaccines–the research has been done, and the verdict is in: there is no link.

    This is not a lie or a fabricated claim. A true person of science goes where the evidence points (or doesn’t point).

    Put simply, there is simply no causal link between autism and vaccines.

    The reason YOU think there is a link is because you WANT there to be a link, because anything would be better than being proven wrong; of realizing that you have been giving out potentially life-destroying advice to people and have perpetuated a lie that has put the safety of this world’s children at risk.

    Rather than bear the burden of such a truth, you will forever refuse to accept the evidence, and you will instead trust shady bloggers who aren’t even experts in the field of immunology or other studies.

    The reason you disagree with me is NOT because you believe you’re right. I know you know you’re wrong. No, you will disagree with me because you CAN’T allow yourself to be wrong. You’ve gone too far down the wrong path, and now you’re going to fight it out because you’ve dug yourself into a hole you can’t get out of

  • comb

    Does aap support the seizure or kidnapping of kids by pediatricians so that those kids can be force vaccinated with the DT vaccine made by sanofi?

    In your opinion, is there ever justification to force vaccinate a patient with DT? not interested in other vaccine just DT.

  • Kevin Weinberg

    Are you … is that a serious question?

    I’m going to take a guess and say that, no, the AAP does not support kidnapping.

    I also can’t recall hearing of any cases where a pediatrician lured a kid into the back of a van under the promise of candy just to give a vaccine.

    This is the kind of question I’d expect to hear on Fox News.

  • Lou

    “Science is a system of STUDY of the OBSERVABLE WORLD.”

    Yes my poor BLIND friend.

    What did you learn from Simpsonwood?

    Here is what I learned.

    The most extensive study of the VAERS data base, involving thousands of man years, taking over four years came to this simple conclusion.

    “The neurological damage from vaccination is there, it is dose proportional; you cannot cover it up.”.

    Sir I do not disagree with you. I do care if you are killing your children with “vaccination”; more for the children’s sake.

  • Kevin Weinberg

    Umm, Lou, you DO know that the VAERS system does not attempt to ever prove a link between the “report” and the vaccine, right?

    In other words, I could send in a report and claim injury from Vaccine and be 100% wrong, but it would still show up on the list.

    From the website: “A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified
    vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described. It only confirms that
    the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given. No proof
    that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS
    to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether
    the event was caused by the vaccine.”

  • comb

    I, my son, and my wife were held under threat of lethal force (by way of a Richmond County Deputy Sheriff and hospital security) in the Doctors Hospital of Augusta on 12/5/2012. My son was force vaccinated with DT at gunpoint because pediatrician Richard Cartie claimed that my refusal to provide informed consent for the tetanus vaccine put my son’s life, “possibly” in danger. This forced vaccination occurred after pediatrician Cartie delayed the cleaning and debriding of son’s open wounds for 4 hours.

    Again I ask you (allegedly you are of scientific mind) if ever there is a time in which a person of any age ought to be vaccinated with the tetanous toxoid against their will and without informed consent given?

  • Kevin Weinberg

    I don’t subscribe to anecdotes.

    You’re claiming you were held under the threat of lethal force (as in they were going to personally take out guns and shoot you) if you didn’t let them vaccinate your son.

    You expect me to believe that they held guns on you as though you were a customer amid a bank robbery.

    I don’t buy it; I don’t buy anecdotes. Show me the news article this generated, or show me the police report, because I’m not about to take your word without evidence.

    Anyone can say anything they want on the internet, but it doesn’t make it true.

  • comb

    You are not required to “buy it” in order to render an opinion. No one asked you if my assertions were true or false. Using your logic no one should buy the idea that the tetanus toxoid is effective because their is no evidence to conclusively show that the vaccine actually confers immunity to people verified as to having been exposed to tetanus. Anecdote, if that, is all that supports the idea that tetanus is an immunizable disease.

    Again, I ask you if ever there is a time in which a person of any age ought to be vaccinated with the tetanus toxoid against their will and without informed consent given?

  • Kevin Weinberg

    False. There is direct, empirical evidence to suggest that vaccines prevent a variety of diseases.

    I’ve already linked about 15 different pieces of peer-reviewed research that suggests, definitively, that vaccines work and do as intended.

    The problem is that, similar to how I am immune to Tetanus, YOU, much like the rest of the anti-vaccine movement, are immune to scientific evidence.

    I suppose if I really wanted to convince you of the truth I’d need to become a famous celebrity, preferably someone on MTV, and I’d need to start a blog.

    Science is just not “good” enough for you.

  • comb

    I get the idea that you are really not wanting to answer my question: is ever there a time in which a person of any age
    ought to be vaccinated with the tetanus toxoid against their will and
    without informed consent given?

    Why would such a scientific mind be so overtly reticent about answering the above question?

  • Kevin Weinberg

    Because it’s a non-specific, ridiculous question. Obviously, the answer is yes. There are an infinite (literally infinite) amount of times when that should happen.

    For example: suppose a terrorist is threatening to set off a nuclear bomb unless you get the tetanus vaccine.

    See? An open-ended, non-specific question like that has as many answers as the mind can conjure.

    Ask a ridiculous question, get a ridiculous answer.

  • Stephanie Palacios

    I can’t even fathom the stupidity in this comment section.

  • comb

    Is it appropriate for a pediatrician to delay the cleaning and debriding of burn wounds until consent is given to administer the tetanus toxoid?

  • Kevin Weinberg

    I’m not a doctor.

    If the doctor says so, then yes. Respect those with a PHD and a license to practice medicine; it will help you live longer.

  • comb

    A kid gets his feet burned. Doctor demands that parents consent to a tetanus vaccine for kid. Parents refuse tetanus toxoid. Doctor asserts that kid’s life is, possibly, in danger because parents forbid tetanus vaccine. Doctor has kid taken and vaccinated against parent’s wishes. Is this appropriate behavior on the part of the doctor?

  • comb

    Everyone has an an opinion. Question: do you advocate that vaccines be forced upon people without their express and informed consent?

  • Kevin Weinberg

    It’s not enough. The doctor should have also contacted child services and looked into saving this child from his or her neglectful, abusive parents.

    How does a child even get its feet burned? It’s not surprising, considering the already negligent acts of the parents in not vaccinating.

  • diversity

    It is the doctor’s duty to do the best for the patient and not what his ignorant parents want. it is his duty to save the patient’s life

  • miranda

    Never looked at AAP published stuff until now. I would say that AAP has some serious explaining to do. From what I have just read from the AAP site which Kevin linked: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2011/07/21/peds.2010-3385.abstract

    This is a CORRELATIONAL study–there is no proof of anything. To put it in lay terms for you, this study provides no causal evidence whatsoever.

    Furthermore, if you start looking at the statistics utilized to produce the “evidence” provided, you start seeing that the internal validity of this study is completely in question. First, mortality was measured by death records from the “Mortality Multiple Cause-of-Death” records. This indicates that the authors could not obtain enough deaths caused just by “chicken pox”, but had to find individuals who had health issues prior to contracting chicken pox. Why not just use chicken pox deaths? The indication is that the authors were intentionally manipulating the data from the onset.
    Apparently the authors also did not consider that medicine and medical practices might have advanced during the past 17 years analyzed (1990-2007). According to the authors, the decrease in the number of deaths could not be attributed to anything other than the vaccine. Other, “outside” influences contribute to a lack of external validity in any study, a situation that is completely ignored by the authors in this study (something that an undergraduate student would know to address). If they can ignore this, what else was “swept aside?” Then they pick and choose dates that best support the image they are wanting to purport (i.e. lower deaths, so let us pick the years with the lowest deaths), again ignoring that this is all correlational.

    By the way, the “Conclusions” area of a journal article is the area where the authors present findings and “hypotheses” about their results. Of course, for an uneducated individual, to read “the impressive decline”. . . can be directly attributed” to the vaccine program looks pretty convincing. Unfortunately, this could not be further from the truth. There can be no definitive causal conclusion from a statistical crunching of numbers. It might look promising, but it can NEVER be definitive or causal.

    Statistics can be manipulated and misinterpreted by anyone or any group this article being a perfect example.

    If you want to make a definitive statement about the overall efficacy of vaccines and the respectability of the AAP, this is not the article or research to use. It is a misleading article to say the least. Furthermore, to pick a disease that has such a low incident of death (i.e. around 100 in the entire population of the U.S. prior to vaccinations), chicken pox is not the one to use. Anyone with any sense would question why a chicken pox vaccine was even developed in the first place. If you were to investigate you would find that the varicella vaccine was in fact marketed to both the CDC and the government from a financial perspective. It was proposed that many days of lost wages and revenue would be avoided if mothers did not have to take off from work to be with sick children who had the chicken pox. So, don’t point to the overriding concern for children (or the prevention of a disease) as being the impetus for the varicella vaccine when it was in fact all about the money from the onset.

  • comb

    Of the 60,000 doctors in support of vaccination, how many are pediatricians and how many support forced vaccinations for those refusing vaccinations at any time?

  • comb

    Weinburg, the doctor was very clear as to why he had the kid seized and force vaccinated: “parents refused the tetanus vaccine, possibly, putting the kid’s life in danger.”
    You earlier stated you were all about the science so please tell us how a burn victim NOT receiving a tetanus toxoid AFTER being burned puts that patient in harm’s way.
    Doctor never once was concerned that the burn itself was anything other than an accident. Perhaps you advocate that children burned, accidentally or not, should all be taken by CPS? In this case the kid was taken by CPS and neglected to the point of being badly burned around his wrist while in CPS care.

  • comb

    So now you are unfamiliar with reducing a tetanus outcome via immediate cleaning and debriding yet are convinced that tetanus is an immunizable disease?

    Do you believe that as long as a burn patient has recently received the tetanus toxoid then that patient can forego proper wound cleaning and debriding?

  • comb

    So then a vaccine should be used as an emergency medical treatment? Is that your position?

  • comb

    So then you are against the idea of second opinions?

  • comb

    It is revealing that a “man of science” would suddenly accept as fact anything a person says merely due to the letters after their name. Is this your scientific standard…MD?

  • comb

    If the doctor says, “kill the patient” should the nurse do as directed?

  • diversity

    Since tetanus is a deadly disease the child should have a fresh vaccine anyways, The child is a threat to the hospital if it really has tetanus

  • AzSandrat

    No, and frankly, your query is dumb.

    If one of your kids was that 1/1000 that died of measles, mumps or rubella, would you would still refuse to vaccinate your other children? How about if they were only left sterile from mumps? That happens to about 1/600.

  • You Idiots

    You are a loser for not having your child vaccinated. Were you vaccinated as a child?? Were millions of others who had no adverse side effects whatsoever?? You are playing roulette with your children’s lives. If they die or are seriously harmed by some pretty awful easily preventable diseases, then you should go to jail for gross mistreatment.
    Get your head out or your arse and get them vaccinated.

  • AzSandrat

    Nope. I’d get what I could. What I wouldn’t do is blame the science. It is correct. It’s not perfect, because we are talking about the nearly infinite variety of biology. Saving 999,999 from this disease, and the 1/1000 who would die from it is such a massive improvement that even if it were my kids who were negatively impacted, I’d still be okay with it.

    Thanks to idiots like you, we’re about to see a new epidemic. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/13/thanks-anti-vaxxers-you-just-brought-back-measles-in-nyc.html

  • Rezchix

    Amazingly difficult to read through this thread of comments.
    What a bunch of fear infesting tyrannical conjecture.
    I do not vax my kids, If I go to the Dr. To get the. A form signed for sports participation, when the topic comes up,in politely but sternly inform the Doctor, that we don’t vaccinate, and we don’t discuss it!
    That is always the end of that discussion.
    Why are people wasting their time in here trying to get the tyrants to understand.
    I suspect they understand…all to well. I believe they who ouch this toxic and deadly science down people’s throats are benefiting financially, really that truly ignorant or just an antagonist narcissistic bunch of propaganda. My children have no obligation to worry about the rest of society. It is my decision to vax or not. I
    Don’t inject this garbage into your family. It is deadly. It is so obvious of how damaging and toxic these endless jabs are that to sit by and watch this dialogue go on, is painful.
    Do your research parents…to vax will alter your health, may cut your life span short and could wreak havoc on your quality of life.
    Informed consent…it really is your choice. That’s called health freedom. Exercise it.
    To the tyrants…what an atrocity you commit. The insults and attitude you display with your holier than thou know it all conjecture and rhetorical claims…are getting so old.

  • Rezchix

    That is one of the most insincere Darwinian responses I’ve ever seen!
    Wow, you must know nothing about history. So, for example, all of the white coats in nazi Germany who were performing deadly procedures for the sake of research…ie…like taping pregnant woman’s legs together when the woman entered labor, just to see what would happen! Those same doctors who were around at the end of World War Two who worked for hitler, were brought to America, employed here for medical research and funded to keep their wickedness in production. Don’t blindly trust doctors, they are just human and some are malevolent. No one is above reproach.
    Have any if you ever heard of The Tuskeegee Experiments?

  • Peer reviewed Pub Med

    http://therefurbishedrogue.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/my-list-of-peer-reviewed-vaccine-research/
    Here you go vaccine pushers, here are the peer reviewed pub med publications you requested. I hope you enjoy every word of it.
    Vaccines destroy lives, your pub med papers confirm this!

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  • Kevin Weinberg

    That is a RIDICULOUS comparison. You’re comparing nazi experiments with a LICENSED practitioner of medicine, who is administering a treatment founded upon half a century of tried and tested research.

    If you don’t trust your doctor, go to another doctor. Nearly every single one of them will say the same: GET VACCINATED.

  • Dr. Mom

    You’re the loser for not having your child vaccinated? Nice insult. Not loser, well informed, in control of my health freedoms. Not conforming to the deceit and propaganda. There is enough, mountains in fact , of evidence that show enough cause of the damage perpetuated by vaccines.
    Even if only one doctor concede there is a correlation, than it must be given thorough examination.
    Here is a list of many doctors in opposition to vaccines.
    Research parents, it’s your child, they’re defending on you to lead the pack, not follow like a sheep.
    http://therefurbishedrogue.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/my-list-of-peer-reviewed-vaccine-research

    Here’s a massive list of peer reviewed pub meds that these pro vax tyrants like to insist you provide them. Well, save this list and continue to provide them with the only they they will accept. Now watch their tactic change!

  • Rezchix

    Well, here,mill go one more step…these are pub med peer reviewed, you guys love these right?
    Well, read it, read every word of it…
    http://therefurbishedrogue.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/my-list-of-peer-reviewed-vaccine-research/

  • Kevin Weinberg

    These links … almost none of them do anything to further your point. Did you even look at this giant list before you read it? These are all things that “seem” to imply that vaccines are harmful, but none of them actually do except the ones that AREN’T peer-reviewed.

    For example, take the very first one from pubmed. It’s an untested hypothesis stating that vaccines “MAY” cause autism. The key here is that it’s untested and that NO LINK has been found.

    It’s just one person coming up with a hypothesis. It’s one scientist who “thinks” there MAY be a connection, but has thus far failed to prove it.

    The next few links deviate in that they don’t even have anything to do with vaccines. Then there’s a link that claims that vaccines aren’t safe, but the PDF file it links to doesn’t exist.

    This goes on and on and one. There’s nothing remotely worth reading in that list.

  • rezchix

    you didn’t even bother to read it. your comment reflects that. deflection, and discredit…same ole same ole!

  • rezchix

    Kevin,
    The real question I suppose at this point…Is, WHY are you here in an anti vaccine forum? What would you call it if I were in a pro fax forum?
    Whats your motive? Whats your agenda? You just like our company? What are you trying to accomplish. Why are you in here being argumentative, antagonist and walking all through here like you have some sort of authority?

  • Kevin Weinberg

    I am here on behalf of all DECENT human beings who don’t want walking contaminants in their society. I’m here to please ask you to not be such a horrible person and to get yourself vaccinated or at least do the decent thing and exile yourself from our society.

  • You can’t fix stupid

    What a tyrant!
    Such bullshit you spout…
    My child has more knowledge than your adult self…I will never allow vax…ive seen such damage…f$?b your opinion, and your lie filled funded pharma backed conjecture.

  • Kevin Weinberg

    Your child is going to get sick and die. And then I hope someone like me points and shouts, “TOLD YOU SO.”

    I don’t even care anymore. Natural Selection dictates that as an unfit parent, your child is going to die and not be able to pass his or her genes onto a successive generation. Honestly, I don’t even know why I bother. I should just let natural selection work: the stupid parents have their stupid kids die to immunizable diseases, while the smart and loving parents get their children vaccinated, so they get to live.

    Enjoy hovering over your child’s death bead after he/she/it contracts an easily defeated disease because of your negligence.

  • You can’t fix stupid

    Natural selection kev…hmmmm, sounds like your god is science…my God created everything. In Gods economy, natural selection goes against His word. Your a Darwinian…lmao…so therefore…The Darwin Award goes to you…
    You should be oh so careful when you speak unspeakable things, you should live and let live.
    I am well informed along with the millions of non vaccine parents…we actually prove more common sense and reason and critical thinking, we are the type of people who examine everything, from a list of ingredients, to every parents commentary of vaccine damage to pub med research papers that say what you refuse to accept. Drs. scientists, parents, this is where we draw our info from.
    Herd immunity is about as real as your evolution, survival of the it test and natural selection.
    Health freedom
    Informed consent
    The Greater Good
    Mary Tacco
    NVIC
    THINKTWICE.COM
    DONT BOTHER REPLYING, I’ve wasted enough time on your ignorance,
    Live and let live….
    Ps…why are unvaccinated children so much more healthier, and again, none of you foos ever have a reply…instead you just come back with RHETOTICAL..BS….however, I want to know once and for all…how does my unvaccinated child pose a threat to your vaccinated child??? I mean, if your so confident that your vax work, what’s with the tyrannical commentary you spew, according to you, vax work…right? So, call me an uniformed parents, but really…based on your argument…you have nothing to worry about…
    We’re you aware that the recent outbreaks, the vax rate of those infected were 95% vaxxed….so, it’s you vaxxed that are germ and disease carrying walking Petri dishes….
    Smh…
    I will donate my families share of lifetimes vaccinations to your family….I want you to have them…you deserve them:D

  • Kevin Weinberg

    If you don’t believe in the Theory of Evolution, then I highly doubt you have the scientific background to properly interpret research you read online.

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  • Parkerfamily7

    you need to watch and learn ….. here is the truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJGyN3gCsBg

  • Parkerfamily7

    You are very uneducated about vaccines … seriously please watch this and see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJGyN3gCsBg

  • Parkerfamily7

    here is research!! explained in detail what vaccines do

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJGyN3gCsBg

  • Parkerfamily7

    if your so called vaccines protect wth are you so worried about us non vaccinated?? LMFAO what a joke …. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJGyN3gCsBg

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  • Kevin Weinberg

    Only a complete idiot does his learning via documentaries. Peer-reviewed research papers published in fully accredited scientific journals have already proven vaccines aren’t harmful.

    The case is closed and the verdict is already in on this issue: vaccines are safe.

  • Sunnie

    Beautifully written!!!!! God bless you. I think these attacks are fueled by guilt. They are on these forums probably because they are curious to what info they might find in regards to non-vax parents, how much they know and how unbelievably healthy their kids are. My faith is in God not man.:)

  • Sidney

    100% of child who had vaccines have had drugs! wanna know why? Well, vaccination saves people from rabies (100%) death rate, all those other deadly pathogens too! So please, take a moment, and well, i don’t know? Maybe try to vaccinate your child so you won’t see he/she laying in the hospital dieing.

  • Sidney

    The mercury is almost non existent, also we as a species, have mercury in OUR blood at all times! What about that?

  • Sidney

    Nope, the Darwin Award goes to you, when YOU AND YOUR BULLSHIT FILLED BRAIN dies from rabies and you would have done nothing because you think you would be one of the 10 (11 if you did) people that survived.

  • arctain2

    My gosh we need more nurses like this!!!!
    Because the simple fact of the matter is, you are a loser if you dont immunize your children. You are bad parents making bad choices on behalf of the very people you are supposed to protect.
    Yes, that means you are a loser. In fact, I’d call child protective services on your malfeasance, if it were me… but loser is appropriate in a medical environment.

  • huntthewrongdoersdown

    CPS is a known human trafficking enterprise designed and run by BAR attorneys. CPS enables the murder molestation, and abuse of innocents. If I found out that you had CPS take my kid then you would experience a life defining moment to say the least.

  • arctain2

    What in God’s name and all that is holy are you talking about? It would be a really good idea to cite sources for your comments – otherwise what you just posted is slander.

    And by sources, i mean actual sources, not some stuff you read on some idiots blog.

  • arctain2

    Your peer reviewed list is nothing more than conjectured possibilities. Not a single cited paper you list denotes causality. They are grant-seeking researchers who haven’t a single solidified conclusion of ‘A’ causes ‘B’. In other words, its a bunch of nonsense in the form of psuedo science.
    And yes, i read every one…

  • Genevieve Robson

    Why did this mom go to the hospital in the first place? If you don’t trust the medical system to protect you against deadly communicable diseases, why would you trust those same people to treat your child for foot and mouth? (actually Hand, Foot and Mouth – Foot and Mouth disease affects cows and other animals not people.) You could have taken your child to a natural healthcare practitioner. I’ve heard that acupuncture is very effective against viral infections.

  • AutismDad

    You are stupid

  • AutismDad

    Better to play vaccine roulette?

  • AutismDad

    Should we come down to your level?

  • AutismDad

    Or we can hover over our dead SIDS baby and be accused of killing it.

  • AutismDad

    A closed, immature mind.

  • zoner185

    interesting how 50,000 parts per billion is considered toxic hazardous waste butbut your precious vaccines have 200,000 parts per billion so what do you make of that

  • zoner185

    I’m person who had vaccs forced on me and I have chronic pain in a variety of ways now for 22 years

  • zoner185

    wake up and quit buying into the poison

  • AutismDad

    Name callers are losers

  • AutismDad

    fear mongering

  • AutismDad
  • AutismDad

    all of them

  • arctain2

    Your child has autism. It’s genetic. You are at fault. You shouldn’t have bred. Blaming a drug company is desperate and shallow. It shows a lack of ability to face reality. It’s sad, actually.

  • AutismDad

    You are a pathetic coward. You are a major league ass hole. If you said that to my face it wouldn’t be pretty and you wouldn’t do it again.

  • AutismDad

    Quit exaggerating and living in fear . What a pathetic attitude you have. Go live on an island by yourself.

  • AutismDad

    Mercury in our blood is never a good thing, so why would you imply its fine?

  • AutismDad

    sydney is too poorly educated to see the logic or the science.

  • AutismDad

    The one who’s head is up his arse is you you pathetic whiner.

  • AutismDad

    garbage