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Deadly 5-in-1 Vaccine Kills At Least Eight Infants

In a press release issued on November 12, 2013, the human rights organization Peoples Union for Democratic Rights (PUDR) stated that between September and October 2013, eight infants had died and many more had been seriously injured after they had received the pentavalent (5-in-1) vaccination.

PUDR reported that the pentavalent vaccine, given to infants to protect them from diphtheria, pertussis (whooping cough), tetanus, pneumonia-meningitis (Hib) and hepatitis B, had been introduced to Jammu and Kashmir, in India, as part of the Universal Immunization Program (UIP) in February 2013.

Why This Vaccine Should Have Never Been Administered

Their press release stated that immediately following the children’s deaths, a team from the Ministry of Health & Family Welfare in Delhi, headed by Dr. N. K. Arora of INCLEN (International Clinical Epidemiology Network), had visited the village of Srinagar to investigate what had happened. PUDR said that:

While the final report of this team is awaited, their preliminary report has already stated that the children have died from causes like septicemia and pneumonia, and are unrelated to the vaccine. This conclusion fails to explain why or how the babies were administered the vaccine in the first place if they were seriously ill at the time of immunization.”

In other words, PUDR had uncovered that the Ministry of Health and Family Welfare had given their conclusions as to how these children had died before the final reports had even been issued.

Disgusted by their discoveries, PUDR decided to investigate for themselves exactly what had happened to these infants. They described with horror what they had uncovered:

“It was in this context that the PUDR, Delhi (People’s Union for Democratic Rights), put together a team comprising public health experts, including clinicians, to look into these incidents. The team which was in Srinagar between 8th to 10th November, visited some of the affected families and conducted a verbal autopsy of the infant deaths to look for antecedent illnesses as well as enquire about other adverse events (as per the Adverse Events Following Immunisation (AEFI ) guidelines.

This team came across infants who had developed serious adverse events after the immunization and had been admitted in the children’s hospital in Srinagar. It was found that the FIR (First Information Report by a doctor or health worker for reporting AEFI) had been recorded only in the cases of death and not in cases of those infants who survived; in other words FIR was prepared after death of the child and not on admission.” (emphasis added)

During their investigations, they discovered that it had taken one family over two hours to reach the hospital and by the time the exhausted family had arrived, their baby had died en route. However, instead of reporting this case as another possible vaccine death, the hospital reported that child had been ‘dead on arrival.’

PUDR learned that although the FDA does not license the pentavalent vaccine for use in the USA, the World Health Organization (WHO), the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI), and the Gates Foundation heavily promotes its use in the developing world. [1]

Ties Discovered to Gates Foundation

So, why is the WHO promoting a dangerous vaccine that is killing children? Maybe it is because the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation are funding them to do so.

The Gates Foundation recently announced that they will be giving the sum of $750 million over five years to help ensure that children in developing countries are immunized against major killer diseases in the new millennium.

They said in a press release:

“The fund will work closely with a new international coalition called the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI), a partnership of international development and finance organizations, philanthropic groups, the pharmaceutical industry and others.

The GAVI partners, which include the World Health Organization, UNICEF, The World Bank, and the Bill and Melinda Gates Children’s Vaccine Program will use the money for a sustained global vaccination effort to address the challenges facing vaccine development and delivery in developing countries.” [2]

Are These Vaccines Saving Children Or Killing Them?

For many years our governments and mainstream media have led us to believe that organizations such as the WHO, GAVI and the Gates Foundation promote vaccines such as the pentavalent vaccine for use in developing countries to save the lives of millions of children. But are they?

Apparently not, according to Truthstream Media, who has recently written an article tiled Pediatrician Says 5-in-1 Vaccine Pushed by Bill Gates’ GAVI, WHO Will Kill 3,125 Babies. The 5-in-1 vaccine, promoted by the Gates Foundation, GAVI, the WHO and UNICEF, has already killed at least 70 children across five developing nations and is on target to kill thousands more. They wrote that:

“According to a recently published editorial in the Indian Journal of Medical Ethics by St. Stephens Hospital Head Pediatrician Dr. Jacob Puliyel, thousands more babies are expected to perish for what will be a negligible impact in the supposed campaign to stop disease.”

They stated in their report that Dr. Puliyel had accused WHO of promoting the 5-in-1 vaccination by FALSELY stating that NO adverse event following immunization had ever been reported. [3]

Vaccine Death is Not SIDS

I decided to find out exactly what else Dr. Puliyel had written in his report.

I found that his report revealed that several infants had died, soon after vaccination, in every area where the vaccine had been introduced. To cover up this fact, the WHO had come up with various elaborate excuses.

However, Dr. Jacob Puliyel had written that none of their excuses were ‘sufficient alternative causes’ and revealed that whenever a child’s death could not be explained, the WHO diagnosed the child as having died from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).

He wrote:

“All sudden deaths in infancy are not cases of SIDS. SIDS by definition is the death of an infant that is not predicted by the medical history, and which is unexplained after a thorough forensic autopsy and detailed investigation of the death scene. There are certain features common to all the deaths discussed in this editorial: the children had received the pentavalent vaccine which in most cases, was followed by a high fever and excessive crying and in some, convulsions before the child died. The use of the term SIDS in a generic manor to describe deaths following vaccination, when the autopsy has suggested hypersensitivity and shock, is misleading and unfortunate.” [4]

This is true and it will be very interesting to see how the WHO tries to wriggle out of this factual information.

Conclusion

Again, we have strong evidence to suggest that an unlicensed and unsafe vaccination is being given to millions of children in the developing world. Rather than saving their lives, as we have been led to believe that they are, the WHO, GAVI and the Gates Foundation have killed possibly hundreds if not thousands of these vulnerable children with dangerous and unnecessary vaccination programs.

Many of these children are already weak and ill. What they need is a clean and safe water supply, better nutrition and a better environment. Why are the Gates Foundation, the WHO and GAVI spending billions of dollars on vaccination programs, when they could provide them with what they really need at a fraction of the cost?

 

 

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1. http://www.countercurrents.org/pudr121113.htm

2. http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Media-Center/Press-Releases/1999/11/Global-Alliance-for-Vaccines-and-Immunization

3. http://truthstreammedia.com/pediatrician-says-5-in-1-vaccine-pushed-by-bill-gates-gavi-who-will-kill-3125-babies/

4. http://ijme.in/213ed142.html

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  • Wendy

    How upsetting! After all the work of developing the baby for 9 months then all the work to deliver the baby only to have their precious rewards life cut short needlessly. It breaks my heart. It’s despicable spending so much money on useless vaccines when clean water nutritious foods would be much more effective. Just think how much water and food could be bought with all those millions that bill and Linda gate will give over the next five years. I think we could then also afford shoes and clothing.

  • Free People

    This story is so sad it makes me sick. The crimes against humanity are now extreme, using these bio-weapons of mass destruction. World Eugenists Organization and Company need to be prosecuted and executed for their crimes starting with the epitome of evil, Bill and Melinda Gates. How do they all get away with impunity for human rights violations is my question.

    Anybody who is still in doubt about vaccines should read Dr Suzanne Humphrey’s book, “Dissolving Illusions”, to learn the truth about the real history of vaccines, and how improved living conditions and quality of life are primarily responsible for the decline in infectious diseases, NOT vaccines.

  • LeAnn Addleman

    I say someone needs to tie Bill and Melinda Gates down and inject them with the same vaccines they are forcing on these innocent children. See what happens to them when they are jabbed with 5 vaccines in one. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

  • courageandhope

    Dr. Andrew Wakefield’s message 15 years ago re the MMR was one of simple caution: until more is known, it might be best to give the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines separately. (Also the Urabe scandal–Urabe strain of mumps vaccine did injure children’s brains by causing aseptic meningitis–had to be hushed up and he was the scapegoat. Read his book, “Callous Disregard, Autism and Vaccines – the Truth Behind a Tragedy” (Skyhorse Publishing: NY 2010)). And the necessary safety studies have still not been done on the giving of multiple vaccinations at once. (E.g., see Cochrane Review 2012 on MMR: “inadequate safety studies.”)

    Pharma in conjunction with bought-out government agencies, including the CDC in the US, push for multiple vaccines given at one time for efficiency of administration. For them, Safety is not a higher priority than efficiency. And with all that scientists are still learning about how the immune system really works, with the involvement of human gut bacteria and their connection to the brain, isn’t it time this mad rush to vaccinate all children slowed down–until more is known, as Dr. Wakefield suggested? He is, of course, not the only one saying it.

    Allergies and asthma in children are way up. Vaccines are known to cause allergies and auto-immune diseases. In fact, the word allergy was first coined to describe adverse effects to vaccination by Clemens von Pirquet. (From Wikipedia: “In 1906 he noticed that patients who had previously received injections of horse serum or smallpox vaccine had quicker, more severe reactions to a second injection. He, along with Bela Schick, coined the word allergy (from the Greek allos meaning “other” and ergon meaning “reaction”) to describe this hypersensitivity reaction.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clemens_von_Pirquet; see footnotes.) http://www.smartvax.com/?option=com_content&view=article&id=73, “Vaccine-Induced Allergies.”

    Today, latex allergy is so common, a Home Depot clerk told me they have actually stopped making latex paint. Yet latex is still in many stoppers to vaccine bottles. Are they testing little babies before vaccinating to rule out latex allergy? That is only one known allergen children are exposed to with vaccines.

  • St_Ann

    Too many people on the planet. They have to get rid of us somehow.

  • carma

    Bill and Melinda Gates openly support depopulation. Of course they support vaccines. Horrible people as far as I’m concerned

  • IC_Clearly_Now

    You turn over the rock and there when the light hits them are Bill and Melinda Gates scurrying like angry beatles.

  • Lou

    Are these Vaccines Saving Children Or Killing Them?

    Clearly they are killing them.

    But we must not believe our eyes and reason because we all “know” such benevolent people such as the “Agenda 21” UN, bill gates et al would never deliberately kill us.

  • Lou

    Yes but the stark truth is that the real object of these “vaccines” is not to make the poor children’s life better; it is to make their lives SHORTER and MUCH less fertile.

  • Wendy

    Agreed …. Vaccines are evil

  • K

    I think there is more to the story. it does say developing countries therefore many babies are dying and do die there needs to be a comparison between the amount of deaths in the years before vaccine introduced and the years after vaccine was introduced and also how many deaths of older children vaccinated compared to non vaccinated. It is vary dangerous to scare parents against vaccines because many of our children have been saved because of them.

  • Tomola

    Only a a vaccine industry shill could write this nonsense.

  • Barb

    How strange to live in a world where the mainstream is so brainwashed to actually believe vaccines are safe and necessary for good health when evidence of the complete opposite has been mounting body by body, day by day since they were first introduced, it’s never been clearer or easier to research…

  • Bluejay6580

    Seriously? Nonsense? I’m not an industry shill and I found this comment to be perfectly reasonable .. More so in fact than the article, which makes a whole lot of claims and doesn’t provide a whole lot of evidence. My gut reaction to your comment sounds a bit like your comment: “only an anti-vax airhead could write this nonsense.”

  • elnura

    many of our children have been saved because of them.

    Please provide independent verifiable study or data that supports this statement.

  • elnura

    Bill Gates father, a know eugenics was a past president of Planned Parenthood who origins are nefarious and sinister. Bill Gates states he doesn’t feel the same way his father did but just look at the activities he’s engaged in. He’s doing the exactly same thing the Rockefeller Foundation who ha been funding this sort of activities for decades. The Rockefellers’ also funded the Nazis. Even though the Eugenics movement began in the US the Germans took it to a whole new level because the US was moving too slow in their opinion.

    Death by Vaccination: The Gates Foundation and the New Eugenics: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/death_by_vaccination.html

    Eugenics would have been so much bizarre parlor talk had it not been for
    extensive financing by corporate philanthropies, specifically the Carnegie
    Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune. They
    were all in league with some of America’s most respected scientists from such
    prestigious universities as Stanford, Yale, Harvard and Princeton. These
    academicians espoused race theory and race science, and then faked and twisted data to serve eugenics’ racist aims.

    Stanford President David Starr Jordan originated the notion of “race and
    blood” in his 1902 racial epistle “Blood of a Nation,” in which the university
    scholar declared that human qualities and conditions such as talent and poverty
    were passed through the blood.

    In 1904, the Carnegie Institution established a laboratory complex at Cold
    Spring Harbor on Long Island that stockpiled millions of index cards on ordinary
    Americans, as researchers carefully plotted the removal of families, bloodlines
    and whole peoples. From Cold Spring Harbor, eugenics advocates agitated in the
    legislatures of America, as well as the nation’s social service agencies and
    associations.

    The Rockefeller Foundation helped found the German eugenics program and even funded the program that Josef Mengele worked in before he went to Auschwitz. Eugenics and the Nazis — the California connection http://www.whale.to/b/black4.html

    In its 1968 yearly report, the Rockefeller Foundation acknowledged funding the
    development of so-called “anti-fertility vaccines” and their implementation
    on a mass-scale. From page 51 onward we read: “Immunological birth control methods will be an ‘antigenic weapon’ against the reproductive process, which left unchecked, threatens to swamp the world.”

    Rockefeller Foundation Admitted Funding, Developing Anti-fertility Vaccines
    Intended for “Mass-scale Distribution” http://www.whale.to/c/rockefeller.html

    Report: http://www.rockefellerfoundation.org/uploads/files/1496d619-017d-4b13-8a64-fce8ed4f785d-1968.pdf

    WHO Reluctant to Suspend Vaccine After 26 Children Die in the
    Developing World: http://vactruth.com/2013/04/02/who-suspends-vaccine/

    This is How Vaccine Injuries to African Children Are Covered
    Up: http://www.whale.to/v/this_is_how.html

    Vaccine Bombshell: Leaked Confidential Document Exposes 36
    Infants Dead After This Vaccine: http://vactruth.com/2012/12/16/36-infants-dead-after-vaccine/

  • Lisa

    Many doctors won’t admit it, but while they tell you you need to vaccinate your child, they themselves do not vaccinate their own.

    They officially tell you that there is no evidence that vaccination causes any harm, because they refuse to take into account the thousands of instances of anecdotal evidence that is available. What WE AS PARENTS know happened to our child/ren after vaccination was not proven in a clinical study, and apparently we don’t count :(

  • Free People

    ‘It is very dangerous to scare parents against vaccines’ ?.. ‘many of our children have been saved because of them’…?…

    Vaccines have not saved any lives, and if you have proof or numbers of lives saved by vaccines, you can provide that data to support your comment. I have yet to see hard data from any vaccine propagandist with regard to ‘lives saved by vaccines’. Where are these numbers that nobody has ever seen?

    The fear mongering of parents belongs to the vaccine industry who claim, like you, that not vaccinating is ‘dangerous’, and that vaccines save lives. These vaccine propagandist use every fear mongering tactic to scare unsuspecting parents and people into submitting to this diabolical practice.

    It’s high time sites like this one and others come to the people’s aid with education regards the truth about vaccines and the REAL history of vaccines, so that they are made fully aware of the serious and deadly risks they take when submitting self or their children to this very dangerous, deadly, and unproven science ‘experiment’, with no benefits whatsoever.

    Injecting poison cocktails into the body of humans and animals is the epitome of evil and there is not ONE GOOD that can come from EVIL!

  • jeg

    Over population is a myth…

  • jeg

    I understand there is peanut oil in some vaccines as well.

  • Notbuyingit3337

    Thank you for sharing and getting the info out!

  • Notbuyingit3337

    Keep digging into the research…go as far as you can on both sides…guarantee you won’t like what you find.

  • elnura

    Questions on the Independence and Reliability of Cochrane Reviews, with a Focus on Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccine

    Concern about Cochrane’s independence existed prior to 2004,as exemplified by its albumin review, funded by the UK Department of Health (DoH). In 2005, Cochrane published a safety review of the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine (MMR). The review contained conclusions and statements that did not fit well with the evidence cited, but that support the British government’s position on the vaccine

    -In the Conclusions the reviewers stated: The safety record of MMR is possibly best attested by its almost universal use. So having set out to ascertain whether the millions of doses of MMR vaccine administered worldwide are safe the authors of this review claim they are safe because millions of doses are administered worldwide. That is not science, nor is it based on the evidence in the review.The reviewers also said:The design and reporting of safety outcomes in MMR vaccine studies, both pre- and post-marketing, are largely inadequate.
    We found problematic internal validity and biases influenced our confidence in their findings. Not all reports offered adequate explanations for missing data. External validity of included studies was also low. Descriptions of populations, response rates vaccine content and exposure were poorly and inconsistently reported. Inadequate and inconsistent descriptions of reported outcomes limited observation periods selective reporting of results contributed to our decision not to attempt pooling data by study design. There are other unusual aspects of the widely reported Cochrane MMR review synopsis statement: No credible evidence of an involvement of MMR with either autism or
    Crohn’s disease was found. This statement leaves the Wakefield hypothesis open and untouched. Involvement is not a usual word in this
    context. Even elementary texts teach that where the cause is
    unknown, epidemiological investigations principally look for associations between disease and potential causes. The use of involvement instead of association in a paper by such experienced reviewers implies the authors were unwilling to disclaim that evidence of an association existed. The claim that no credible evidence was found is a statement about the quality of the evidence then available and considered by the
    reviewers. It leaves open that credible evidence may be found in the many avenues of investigation that remain ignored and unexplored by establishment researchers. The reviewers also appear not to have taken into account the Bradford Hill guidelines. Their statement is based on three cohort, two case-control, and one self-controlled trial study. No
    other evidence such as clinical or dechallenge or rechallenge evidence appears to have been considered. Over reliance on epidemiological statistical significance testing is inappropriate.

    Contrary to its conclusions, the body of the 2005 Cochrane MMR review confirms the statements made by one of its authors, Dr. Thomas
    Jefferson, in 2002. When head of the vaccine division of the
    Cochrane Collaboration and board member of EUSAFEVAC, Jefferson was quoted as saying:”Most safety studies on childhood vaccines have not been conducted thoroughly enough to tell whether the jabs cause side effects [T]he issue was the “Cinderella” of public health research and Government officials had failed to make it a high priority. There is some good research, but it is overwhelmed by the bad. The public has been let down because the proper studies have not been done.

    [T]here was a “dearth” of sound studies on the risks and benefits. Information available on the safety of vaccines that are routinely given to babies and toddlers was “simply” inadequate.

    Conclusion:
    The independence of The Cochrane Collaboration, which had been called into question previously, has been further compromised by recent funding changes.

    The conclusions of the Cochrane review on the safety and effectiveness of MMR vaccine violate the standards of evidence-based medicine and are not supported by the body of the review. There are material concerns that the conclusions were influenced by efforts of the British government to avoid liability in claims brought on behalf of allegedly vaccine-injured children.
    http://www.whale.to/a/millerc.pdf

    Extract of the Abstract:-
    “The conclusions of the Cochrane MMR review are not
    supported by, and contradict, the evidence presented in the review. Having found inadequate evidence of safety in the papers studied, the review’s conclusion that the millions of doses of MMR vaccine administered worldwide are safe is not science based. It is based on the circular assertion without cited evidence that the vaccine is safe because millions of doses are administered. The
    review also shows that studies into the extent of the adverse effects are too limited to say how extensive these adverse effects may be, and consequently to say whether the vaccine is “safe.” The review provides no comparative evaluation of MMR vaccine safety and effectiveness against other measures, such as single vaccines, placebo, no vaccine, or modern treatment options. It provides no evidence to refute the Wakefield hypothesis of an association between MMR vaccine, regressive autism following previously normal development, and a novel
    form of inflammatory bowel disease.

    The Cochrane review duplicates an almost identical paper published in 2003 by members of the same team, yet contains no reference to the earlier paper. According to a separate publication by one of the authors, duplicated publication can be considered unethical or fraudulent when the authors attempt to conceal the existence of duplicated publication from editors and readers.”

    Merck paid for the Cochrane Study. They wanted a study, probably to support the Thoreson study aka the Danish study because of the information that came out in 2000 at the Simpsonwood conference. The Cochrane study is so flawed and bias that it’s not worth using in a debate. People bring this up as much as the Thorsen MMR study aka know as the Danish Study not realizing how they are bought and paid for by the industry. Merck paid for the Cochrane Study and the CDC paid for the Thorsen Study. Merck wanted a study but not one based on actual research data so they didn’t provide the data Cochrane requested. apparently there is a timing factor when studies are done so to stay within the designated time frame, Cochrane went with what they had. Cochrane stated it was a crap study based on crappy data but it’s the best crappy study there is. I guess they were annoyed because they knew they would lose creditability based on their conflict of interest and not providing a well done study.

    Vaccines are not safe in any way shape of form because they are inherently contaminated. Read Janine Roberts book: Fear of the Invisible. She states:
    -Our vaccines, I thus learnt, are not filtered clean but are suspensions from the manufacturers’ ‘incubation tanks’ in which the viruses are produced from ‘substrates’ of mashed bird embryo, minced monkey kidneys or cloned human cells. These suspensions are filtered before use but only to remove particles larger than viruses. The point of the vaccine is that it contains viruses, thus these must not be filtered out. This means there remains in the vaccine everything of the same size or smaller, including what the manufacturers call ‘degradation products’ – parts of decayed viruses or cells.”

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  • Jim Bob

    Or the mainstream has got it right and you’re on the lunatic fringe. Which one is more likely? (See Occam’s razor)

  • Jim Bob

    Well, its hard to quantify prevention. So you have to look at disease morbidity and mortality since the introduction of vaccines. So while the causes of the decline of vaccine-preventable diseases is multi-factorial, its outright stupid to deny that they haven’t been THE major factor. Especially since we see vaccine-preventable diseases return after vaccination rates decrease. If you can’t find this information yourself, then you’re not looking. Because I seem to find anti-vaccine, scare-mongering propaganda quite easily even though I’m pro-science.

  • Jim Bob

    I’ve been digging for quite a while now and can’t find anything even remotely convincing that anything on this website is factual.

  • Jim Bob

    Um…they don’t support depopulation. They support vaccination which increases life expectancy. And we now sociologically, that when life expectancy increases, birth rates go down. Hence, population stress on the environment and economies in sub-Saharan African and other poor areas will be reduced creating the grounds for growth and success.
    Horrible, horrible people, those Gates people are.

  • Jim Bob

    So…basically one small needle that they most likely already had as a kid?

  • Jim Bob

    That’s quite a statement. Any proof of that fertility argument?

  • You lack any historical perspective.

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  • Lou

    The UN has developed ingredients that are patented to induce lifetime infertility. These ingredients were added to a “tetanus vaccine” distributed to “mothers” in the Philippines. Note the brave UN was not concerned in giving this “tetanus vaccine” to men and boys. I guess men don’t get tetanus in the Philippines. So you can see this infertility technique needs some work.

    The wonderful HPV vaccine infertility technique apparently works on both boys and girls.

    http://ipsnews2.wpengine.com/1995/07/philippines-catholic-nun-charges-anti-tetanus-vaccine-actually-being-used-as-occult-means-of-population-control/

  • Lou

    This anti fertility technology has been under development for decades and IMO we should consider it fully functional.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2665354

    Our only problem as always has been can you trust em to tell you the truth?

    NO!

    This crap is IMO in the “seasonal flu vaccine”, in select batches of course. It can be in any “vaccine” coming out of China.

    We take a horrible risk when we accept an unknown needle into our arm.

  • Lou

    Jim Bob

    Are you an idealistic teen?

    LOL!

  • Lou

    There are only two things sustaining the horrors of “vaccination”.

    1 FEAR

    2 AUTHORITY

    It is the “authorities” who induce fear in us causing us to “vaccinate”.

    All the evidence SCREAMS do NOT VACCINATE.

    Soon the “authorities” will have to FORCE us, by force of arms, to “vaccinate”. Believe it or not this is often the step seen before “vaccination” is ENDED. So cheer up folks.

  • Lou

    Yes this appears to be the reason for the outbreak of “peanut allergy”; first in infants and no one else; then in infants and young children and no one else; then in infants, young children, older children and no one else then ,,,. I am surprised the CDC has not done genetic research on this. LOL! It is quite a strange phenomena no? One thing we can be sure of it is NOT linked to “vaccination”. For proof see all the “studies” on “vaccination” and autism.

    “Vaccination” in general seems to be inducing all sorts of allergies. Allergy is often a disease of “vaccination” IMO.

  • Lou

    My hope is that there is a hell and it does last forever.

  • Remnant

    “First we got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.” -Bill Gates

    If vaccination (along with health care and reproductive health services) increase life expectancy, why would Gates expect projected population of 9 billion to be lowered by 10 or 15 percent? Shouldn’t these things increase global population?

  • Amanda Conken

    Well it’s hard to provide that other than the fact a child is alive. I see plenty of children who were not vaccinated get sick badly because they weren’t vaccinated and I’ve seen many children get sick because they were vaccinated, but to ask for proof of children who survived because of a vaccine is kind of stupid. For all I know a vaccine that I gave my daughter saved her life. I’ll never know, but I DO know that she IS alive and very healthy.

  • rational

    Go to any old cemeteries and count the gravestones of kids who didnt
    reach the age of 10 prior 1950’s-60’s. Then do the same for gravestones
    after 1960’s (where population had since doubled) Then ask yrself why
    there are so much fewer in modern times. Why? of course the evil modern
    medical establishment has been removing those modern gravestones.
    Obviously. YOU STUPID GIT, STOP KILLING OUR CHILDREN!

  • rational

    But but….I thought the vaccines were killing all these extra babies ‘saved’ by modern sanitation, (and irridology, naturopathy, osteopathy etc..)

  • dalek

    Cleanliness has nothing to do with the spread of diptheria, polio, whooping cough, measles. Whilst it is true that improving 3rd world would hygiene wld save lives, vaccination does an UNDENIABLE bloody good job. Unfortunately it is a bit harder to absorb the TRUTH. (http://www0.health.nsw.gov.au/resources/publichealth/surveys/phb_hepb_immu.pdf) because the scientific truth takes a lot longer to read -say 20 pages or more, than something like the statement “Vaccine Kills!” which takes no time at all, and so much easier to believe if you hate rationality and logic.

  • So the spread of polio has nothing to do with hygiene or better sanitation practices?

  • Wendy

    Our bodies come from the earth.all the elements found in the dirt are what we require to maintain our health. Our bodies do not lackvaccines or pharmaceutical drugs. Your belief in such nonsense lacks reason and common sense and the ability to think and reason for yourself. “Man esteems himself happy when that which is his food is also his medicine”……American Indian saying

  • Roxanne

    By Jim Bob’s “logic”, if vaccines “increase life expectancy” then today’s youngest members should have very long lives to look forward to given the massive slew of vaccines been shot into them… What a pathetic joke given the appalling state of today’s chronically sick youngsters.

  • Roxanne

    Hi Amanda, this is precisely why transparent long-term studies are required to compare the long-term health of the vaccinated versus the unvaccinated. Unofficial surveys strongly suggest that the vaccinated are significantly more prone to allergies, asthma, autism, learning disorders, diabetes, SIDS, auto-immune conditions etc. Far too many parents have been dealt a vaccine damaged child and go on to see how much healthier their following unvaccinated child/children are for this question to be continually avoided by officialdom. *** Given the troubling impact that vaccines have on the blood-brain barrier of the developing infant, their synergistic toxicity, demyelination, bypassing the critical frontier barriers of the immune system, it’s high time this outdated modality were put under the investigative microscope. Thanks for listening.

  • Roxanne

    Hi Lisa, so true what you’ve said about the appalling state of dismissal and denial. Ultimately, it is not what some white coat in his insular ivory tower decrees that counts but what is happening in the human body.
    The body doesn’t lie…
    “We are hundreds of thousands of parents crying the same thing around
    the world – that vaccines caused our children’s autism and no one wants
    to hear.” Evelyne Claessens, Montreal Gazette, 1/3/2011

  • Barb

    Throughout history COUNTLESS forward thinkers who DARE to question the status quo have been accused of the same so I’ll take that as a compliment – Thank You!

    What you INTENDED as an anonymous rude remark says MORE about YOU than ME, specifically that an unacceptable, denied, SUPPRESSED part of YOU was triggered (hint: the part that intuitively KNOWS vaccines do harm but just can’t RECONCILE it within your CURRENT paradigm),

    I don’t normally reply to HATEFUL messages nor respond in like, I feel SORRY for you and wish you the best as you are clearly LACKING something (love?) when you project YOUR insecurities onto others,

    Just KNOW that until you or a loved one has suffered serious adverse vaccine reactions YOUR opinion is of NO consequence to ANYONE…what you consider a statistic or anomaly is/was someone who SUFFERED and was dearly LOVED by others, not just a scribble on paper.

  • Jim Bob

    Yes. I explained this concept above. Birth rate and life expectancy are two different things. As a I said, if you look at any country where life expectancy is high, you’ll find birth rates will be lower. In fact, all G7 countries have low birth rates and only increase their population through immigration.
    Ergo, you won’t have population explosions in places like sub-Saharan Africa or other poor places where life expectancy is around the mid-30’s. Its not a hard concept to grasp.
    Gates wasn’t saying that new vaccines, health care and reproductive services are going to murder 15 percent of the population, he was saying the birth rates would be drastically lowered because of sociological reasons when life expectancy increases.

  • Jim Bob

    Yup! You got it! Life expectancy has skyrocketed over the past 100 hundred years. Vaccines are a large part of that. The human race is healthier then ever.
    I’m glad you’re coming around and see the logic.

  • Jim Bob

    No. But would it matter?

  • Jim Bob

    That “study” is 25 years old. And it is talking about a vaccine for fertility treatment for cancer patients.
    Do you read the stuff you post?
    Moreover, that’s not what’s being given as a vaccine.
    In essence, nice strawman.

  • Jim Bob

    What a joke, and I quote from your own reference:

    “The Department of Health notes no unusual increase in abortions since 1990, the year the anti-tetanus drive was accelerated. Previous to that, anti-tetanus vaccination in the country has been going on since 1983.”
    Ergo, no fertility issues.
    Also, you’re point about men is moot, since the article is dealing with tetanus transferred to pregnant women.
    Again I ask, do you read the stuff you post?

  • Jim Bob

    I think I mentioned this back when that article was written. But I believe there have been around 7 million doses of the HPV given and she found 1 case of OPF. The only association to vaccination was temporal. No causal mechanism and no other cases identified. That was a poor article based of even poorer research.

  • Jim Bob

    So the only people they asked for comments in that article were known anti-vaccine advocates. Perhaps a medical professional would have been useful. Like a virologist or and epidemiologist.

    Hypothetically, If I was investigating climate change and only talked to the oil and gas industry, what would my story look like?

  • Lou

    Sir please look at some disease history charts before you make the common mistake of believing “vaccine” propaganda.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vaccine.htm

  • Roxanne

    ‘Vaccination does a bloody good job’
    Hmm… like it did for Scarlet Fever?

  • Roxanne

    Exactly! By the vaccine apologist’s logic, every plant, animal,
    insect that is subjected to a soup of untold microbes would
    need a vaccine fix to correct its “vaccine deficiency” and survive. That’s what a REAL immune system is for.

  • stacy

    Hmmm nothing on the link..

  • jeg

    Yes great point Lou but I sometimes supsect it may also be a combination of vaccines and our modern day agricultural practices playing a role in allegies/intolerances too. The manipulation of wheat,fruit and vegetable seeds turned into either GMO or hybrid versions which then become man made processed products and not what nature intended. End result? =The food becomes inferior nutrient wise leading to deficiency disease. On top of that we are also exposed to a lot more chemicals today. The list is endless. *Sigh* What a topsy turvey world we live in!

  • jeg

    P.S Meant to say that more and more people are becoming intolerant and allergic to every day foods like wheat etc. I do not recall this while growing up. It is so rampant today.

  • Jim Bob

    I’m sorry but NOTHING was INTUITIVELY triggered in ME that WOULD suggest that VACCINES are anywhere NEAR as harmful as you SUGGEST.
    PS. The LIKELIHOOD of a loved one SUFFERING a SERIOUS adverse REATION to a vaccine is less than 1 in a MILLION.

    PPS. I THINK there is SOMETHING wrong WITH your CAPS luck button.

  • Jim Bob

    Chemistry 101 says you’re wrong. Also basic logic.

  • Jim Bob

    Incorrect. I see you have no clue what you’re talking about.

  • First, please qualify your opinion of an adverse reaction. Then, Can back up your opinion with any hard data? This is the exact line most doctors tell parents.

  • Wendy

    Yep. They arrogantly proclaim themselves authorities, gods. Whom are we mere peons to question their superior knowledge. They disregard god all together. His perfect design. Of both the earth and our bodies. Destroying both with his ignorant views. All for money. It really is at the root of all evil

  • Wendy

    I was referring to clean drinking water and quality food. Vaccine industry is opportunistic. They saw a way to make mega bucks and shut off their consciences leaving their morals and ethics behind. What makes up a man? What does he require to repair the systems of his body at a cellular level? Surely chemistry 101 wouldn’t say vaccines or drugs. It’s just a way to prey upon people’s fear (spread by the industry) and ignorance

  • Tanya C.

    As someone who lost a son to the DPT vaccine, I fully
    sympathize and concur with your comments. I was
    stonewalled by the medical system and have met SO many others whose vaccine killed or injured chid was written off
    as a coincidental casualty. It’s beyond disgusting what
    my child and many thousands of others have endured at
    the hands of fear rmongering medical fanatics bullying
    parents into inoculating their children. There is no justice
    for the vaccine damaged. To have to deal with scorn
    and ignorance of fellows like this one, is added insult
    to injury.

  • Wendy

    I mean to say the food we and other animals eat should come from plants grown in good quality dirt since we can’t just eat dirt. Though doctors used to tell mothers of children who were pica on lead paint to let their children play in and eat the dirt. Much wiser than injecting the little ones with toxic foreign substances.

  • Wendy

    Do you know how Alexis Carrel kept the chicken heart alive for 30 years?

  • Barb

    I’m so very sorry for the tremendous loss and betrayal you experienced from those you trusted, it IS disgusting.

    While “academics” argue (flawed, biased) data, attack others and such, while drug companies dictate/buy policy, the rest of us can trust the HUGE mountain of evidence and our God given instincts that vaccines are neither safe nor necessary for good health; however there is NO true choice without full disclosure and informed consent.

    I chose not to take his comment personally as it wasn’t about me, it was HIS reaction reflecting HIS limited mind/reality, I honestly feel bad for his lack of self awareness to see that. I try to avoid labels but I think they call them haters, they’re looking for a reaction, it’s usually best to ignore.

  • Tanya C.

    Thank you, Barb. As they say ‘the proof is in the pudding’
    but the tragedy remains that most are still so ingrained
    by vaccine brainwashing that they only wake up to
    vaccine deceptions after the damage is done.
    At least my husband and I are blessed that our subsequent children have never been inoculated and are SO healthy (unlike the kids they attend school with). We woke up
    too late for our first child but at least we can find some
    comfort in knowing we’ve spare our other children toxic
    inoculations allowing them their God given right to true health.

  • josh

    If you just listen to his TED talk, about how to control carbon output, by using vaccines to depopulate the planet by 10-15% , this is clearly his fathers wet dream.

  • josh

    It is always pretty telling when people resort to ad hominem’s .

  • josh

    You managed to use to logical fallacies in that short reply. Very impressive.
    Btw the disease that vaccines have take credit for, like poilio and measles had a pretty much non existent beath rate of around 1:100,000. Even if there were a lot of kids that died pre vaccination age, they would have had to die from something vaccines don’t even claim to prevent.

  • josh

    Go watch his TED speech, he clearly states the world is over populated and “if we do a really good good job with vaccines and health care we can reduce that by 10 or 15%” Its hard to swing that into anything but pro depopulation and being that his foundation is pushing vaccines across the 3rd world, he is not just talking about those beliefs.

    go to 4:30 in the video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUM_Vyx9UIw

  • josh

    He was in know way saying anything like this

  • josh

    It would excuse the errors in logic in the argument’s you have presented.

  • josh

    The man just said chemistry 101 says ,you are wrong, and vaccines and drugs, are what the body is deficient of, and is stopping it for self repair on a cellular level. You may be wasting your time in rewording what you meant to communicate. which you did a good job of anyways

  • josh

    most people that use the other people to commit genetic logical fallacy. (In which, an idea being accepted or rejected because of its source, rather than its merit) Jim just used himself as the source, which is an impressive display of arrogance. lol

  • josh

    How exactly does abortion stats imply that there are no fertility issue?

  • Wendy

    Thanks josh. It’s true talking to people who only valuemoney and power is a waste of time. Closed minded. Yet perhaps it could help someone who may not be commited to going vaccine free though they fear the potential side effects to think.

  • josh

    Yea but jim isn’t one of them. He is either a paid shill or someone that is just not willing to breakaway from the herb mentality and group think and will never accept any evidence that is contrary to their world view.
    I do agree that its important to try to encourage the people who want to go vaccine free. When I talk to people like jim, and bring light on the dangers and ineffectiveness of vaccines and the allopathic industry, or show how the natural approach is safer and more effective; I’m not really talking to jim because he is not really going to look at the info with an open mind because his mind is made up and nothing will change this, but it may open up others to the truth.

  • Gladiatoro

    +1

  • Gladiatoro

    +10

  • Gladiatoro

    There is….. life is short eternity is FOREVER.

  • elnura

    Scary yet most Americans view him as a great humanitarian. If you criticize Gates on sites such as HP or Raw people will attack you and tell you how great he. When I tell them the great one lost a discrimination lawsuit filed by his Black employees for treating them and other minorities with a “plantation mentality” as quoted by the judge that presided over the case. I am so appalled by the lack of knowledge people have for what is actually going on not only in this country but the world. If you say anything out side of the corporate orchestrated facade of the medical industry, Auto industry, the Rockefeller Foundation, Gates Foundation etc. people flip out. Yet they can’t counter any of the verifiable information with other than “you’re a liar”. I’m tired of the American people especially those who live in fear dictating the course of the country. Prime example is the vaccine apologist and pro-vaccine people who so “terrorized” by the idea that someone may catch a cold, meseals, chicken pox-all illness that billions of people over the course of time have survived. They have brought into the fear mongering and someone always has a story of “I know someone who died from meseals when I was growing up”. Really? I’m sure people know someone who died in a car accident does that mean you will never drive again or ride in a moving vehicle?

    According to the Life Expectancy chart put out by the CIA, in 2007 American was 47th on the list. 2012 America is not 147th. Hell of a drop and since this chart is based on infant mortality-someone isn’t right. Sorry for the rant.

  • elnura

    LACKING something (love?) when you project YOUR insecurities onto others

    I’ve encountered his incendiary attacks before. He’s probably a troll because this is the kind of activity they engage in so common sense and critical thinking are wasted on him. Also, trying to analyze him. If he’s being paid, he’ll never shift so I think we should just give him a group hug.

  • josh

    Some people will never be able to break away from the herb mentality and group think. They will always by into the propaganda just because its popular or the excepted view in the mainstream scientific community. They wont even truly look into anything yet they will insult those who have. You are right you cant say anything about Gate without getting crucified.
    Fear is a great motivator and they use it a lot. The example you use is a perfect example. You will inform them that highly toxic substances will never prevent or cure any ailment, and they are of course very dangerous. They will use you saying that something toxic is bad for the body as you fear mongering. One guy actually told me to grow up after I said we shouldn’t be putting these substances in our bodies. Using the fact that these substances are already polluting the air water and food supply, like that makes it ok and smart to add more to problem.
    We are the most vaccinated and drugged country in the world, also the sickest. this is not just by chance.

  • elnura

    We are the most vaccinated and drugged country in the world, also the sickest. this is not just by chance.

    I agree!

  • Roxanne

    There were no five in one vaccines when Billy was a boy. Nor was
    he raised in dire poverty deprived of basic nutrition, proper sanitation
    and decent drinking water. “One small needle” carrying five disease
    strains can break the camel’s back of any child – especially
    those living in such destitute circumstances.

  • Roxanne

    It’s those who think a newborn is immunologically defective and needs a vaccine fix to rescue it that are truly clueless.

  • Roxanne

    There are no coincidences… well, except if you live in Jim
    Bob’s world where vaccine damage is always a coincidence!
    Narrator: “In the Philippines women believe they have been tested with a contraceptive vaccine secretly.”
    Mary Pilar Veroza: “The government would announce… that only women from 14-45 years old should come to the health center for their tetanus shots… Fertility cycles were all fouled up, some had bleeding and miscarriages, some lost their babies. The symptoms would come soon after their tetanus vaccination.”

    BBC Television Horizon, ‘The Human Laboratory’, 11/05/95

  • Jim Bob

    Pick your vaccine.

  • Jim Bob

    Insight is not an ad hominem.

  • Jim Bob

    While its no consolation, go to the NVICP and claim your compensation. You barely have to show evidence if the reaction is a table injury.
    Unless of course, if its just your belief that vaccines caused it and your doctor’s have said otherwise you are going to have a difficult time.
    PS. There is justice for vaccine injuries through NVCIP.

  • Jim Bob

    Academics continually monitor the “HUGE mountain of evidence” and have still been unable to show that vaccines are any where as evil as you think.

  • Jim Bob

    Just because you can’t wrap your mind around it, it doesn’t make it false. And your faulty assumptions are hilarious. Just because people have more time to “procreate”, doesn’t mean they’re going around doing it like rabbits.
    Picture this: In my country (Canada), on average, every woman will have 1.5 kids. Most will live to around 75 years of age. Where as in Uganda, every woman will have approximately 7 kids. But most will only live until 55 years old. More to the point, “your having more time to procreate” argument is moot, since both groups experience the same number of child rearing years.
    Also Look at any country with a high life expectancy and you’ll find low birth rate. Moreover, you’ll notice that their populations actually decrease with immigration. It flies in the face of your “logic”.
    What I find more interesting is that your anti-vax bias creeps right through at a statement like that instead of critically analyzing it to see if there was some truth to it.

  • Jim Bob

    -20 for being wrong. See above.

  • Jim Bob

    What’s more troubling is that you can’t see your own. That’s called willful ignorance.

  • Jim Bob

    I don’t get what you’re trying to say. Are you able to elaborate?

  • Gladiatoro

    -30 Vaccines are POISON , end of story. Life expectancy is higher in developed country’s simply due to 1. Proper sanitation 2. Nutritious food 3. Clean water .

  • Jim Bob

    These “toxic substances” exist in nature. Believe it or not, in the dirt as well. I don’t see the difference.

  • Jim Bob

    See. Now that’s an ad hominem fallacious argument. As I was mentioning above, you don’t even see when you commit logical fallacies.
    What I find funny, is that because I don’t believe in your fear mongering non-sense, and that I don’t unequivocally trust your “light-bringing”, I must be a shill. Moreover, the natural approach to disease prevention is getting the disease itself which has proven way more fatal and harmful than a vaccines.
    Sorry, I’m sticking with science-based medicine.

  • Jim Bob

    Immunologically defective? No. But at risk of vaccine-preventable diseases? Yes.

  • Jim Bob

    Conspiracy theory. But its clear why you are drawing the wrong conclusions, since you are using the above as “scientific” evidence.

  • Barb

    I agree most of us learn the truth about allopathic medicine the hard way, my kids (30, 26,22) had their shots growing up, we accepted the post vaccine reaction (I now know was meningitis) as normal and treated accordingly, back then many of us naively trusted agencies, doctors etc. to be ethical and unbiased.

    I never gave it much thought until a couple of years ago when the grandchild in my care had a terrifying reaction denied by health care providers; like you I’m disgusted by what I’ve since discovered (for humans and pets), staying quiet is not an option.

    I ignore critics (clearly with zero life experience or children) who troll sites trying to bait, trigger or stir the pot with a snide remark or newly learned word of the week. Maybe they’re paid shills or just desperate for attention, but either way thoughtful, well referenced replies are a waste of time as they prefer personal attacks since their position lacks substance, facts or common sense.

    Even knowing it’d open their eyes (like it has many of us) I still wouldn’t wish a serious vaccine reaction on their loved ones, just themselves…maybe just a crippling headache with non-stop vomiting, diarrhea, fever, malaise, feeling like crap from top to bottom for weeks before a painfully slow return to normal over several months (like my sweet grand daughter), if only all the vaccine injured could be so lucky…

  • josh

    To commit logical fallacies you have to be making an argument.
    Not sure what you mean by my “light bringing”. Nothing I say is fear mongering, Fear mongering is saying if you vaccinate you and your kids you are endangering them and they will get sick.
    The natural approach to disease preventions is to build your immune system so it can protect itself and allow it to self heal when you get an ailment.

  • josh

    Oh I can wrap around what the man was saying and it was clearly that if they use vaccines properly they can depopulate the world by 700m to 1.5b.
    I never said that just because people have more time to procreate they would like rabbits. I asked you how exactly would people living longer equate to less people being born and said if anything it would lead to higher birth rate.

  • Wendy

    Synthetic is manufactured by man. Fake. no one would say a fake pair of breasts is the same as a real pair. or a hyundai that looks like a jaguar a real jaguar. please.Health care inplies prevention. Giving the body what it needs at a cellular level. Explain how vaccines can accomplish this task when they are not even designed to give the body nutrition the foundation for cellular health.

  • Wendy

    You count more than you realize than. The sharing of experience is more credible than studies bought to produce an outcome. Keep sharing your story it is making a meaningful difference. I’m sorry you had to have bad experiences though since you’ve learned from them I commend you and the people who count will too.

  • josh

    Your confusing insult with insight.

  • josh

    “Unless of course, if its just your belief that vaccines caused it.”
    WTF is wrong with people like you. She is one of the many parents that had a perfectly healthy child that gets vaccinated and dies shortly after and you are saying she maybe wrong and it may just be JUST her belief. News flash doctors rarely will even consider vaccines as a possibility because they are so “safe”. Read her comment this clearly happened with her! Show some compassion or keep your hurtful messages to yourself.

  • josh

    The only evidence on your side is studies conducted or funded by pharmaceutical companies.

  • josh

    Better Sanitation, nutrition and clean water= longer life expectancy… Sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory! (I always love, when the trolls call stuff a conspiracy theory. when what was said has nothing to do with people conspiring. which is kinda a big part of what makes a conspiracy theory.)

  • josh

    I will enlighten you, he is saying you don’t know the history of vaccines, if you think they extend life and not shorten it.

  • josh

    That is clueless, but I think, anyone that thinks the way to correct a newborn that was immunologically defective, is to inject multiple toxins into the bloodstream. Horrible logic they use!

  • josh

    Yea I know that one of the goals of vaccination is to make people infertile. I was trying to get jim to expand on the logic he used to come up with no increase in abortions= no fertility issues. They are in know way related.

  • josh

    Do you know what the word conspiracy is?
    No where does she calm this is “scientific” evidence

  • Tanya C.

    Our son died well over a decade ago. As I said we were stonewalled at every level, and in our shock and devastation
    received no support outside of family. Without reliving the
    ordeal, no justice came our way and I know any number of families who’ve been dealt the same hand.

  • Tanya C.

    Thank you Josh. Our son went from being a perfectly
    normal healthy baby to seizures and death within 36 hours of the DPT. There are SO many countless cases of blatant
    vaccine injury or death like ours where the medical system
    closed ranks and despicably absolves itself of any responsibility. Our numbers are invisible and the death certificate never states the real cause – vaccination.

  • Tanya C.

    Thank you for sharing your grand daughter’s plight. Those
    who’ve been there know the truth. And yes, I’d like to see
    the vaccine bullies get a taste of their own medicine.

  • Gladiatoro

    -100

  • Wendy

    What is the basic unit of which we are made? Cells. What do cells require to reproduce properly? What happens if cells mutate due to lack of basic requirements or toxic overload? What do vaccines contain that meets any requirements of cells proper reproduction? What do vaccines contain that pollutes the cells?

  • Wendy

    How did Alexis Carrel keep the chicken heart alive reproducing cells? No mention of vaccines in his perfect solution. ph balanced complete balanced nutrition.

  • Roxanne

    Like Scarlet Fever…. or perhaps all those “pertussis victims”
    over in Sweden since they stopped using the vaccine decades back.

  • Roxanne

    These women’s experiences weren’t “theoretical”, they were
    real… It’s called CONNECTINGTHE DOTS
    On a side note, Polysorbate 80 which has been studied in regards to infertility is a common vaccine ingredient… (yes, I know it’s also used with ice cream etc., but injecting a substance has a more profound effect than digesting it)
    Vaccine monographs routinely note that impact on fertility
    has not be studied. Amongst a slew of things vaccines
    aren’t studied nor monitored for, I find that troubling.

  • Roxanne

    … On a more general note, vaccine monographs (inserts) routinely mention that impacts on fertility have not been
    studied. So their own “science” – more like lack thereof –
    admits no one really knows the impacts vaccines could
    play re. infertility.

  • elnura

    Well it’s hard to provide that other than the fact a child is alive. I see plenty of children who were not vaccinated get sick badly because they weren’t vaccinated

    I worked in CPS and I can tell you I’ve seen many many children adversely affected by vaccines. I’ve seen many many children who are not vaccinated who don’t have allergies, constant colds and ear infections, eczema, asthma, diabetes and a host of other chronic illnesses. Pediatricians say chronically ill children today are the norm. The autism rate in this country is 1:50. The fact that a vaccinated child is alive is a testament to his/her immune system which we are all born with. You pro-vaccine people seem to forget we are born with functioning immune systems that will continue to serve us providing we don’t screw them up. If these children are healthy their bodies are doing what it suppose to do and not because they have been vaccinated which by the way doesn’t mean they are immunized. How about giving you daughter’s immune system kudos for keeping her healthy.

    What’s wrong with you people who give all their power over to a corporate America? Vaccines are not about health-it’s Politics and Profit. Why do you think you can maintain the body’s health at the end of a needle from a syringe filled with toxins? Tell me how can these ingredient improve the quality of a child’s health:

    • Bovine cow serum: Extracted from cow skin. When injected causes connective tissue disorders, arthritis and lupus; also shortness of breath, low blood pressure, chest pain and skin reactions.

    • Sorbitol: Synthetic sweetener which metabolizes very slowly and aggravates IBS and gastrointestinal issues.

    • Gelatin: Derived from the collagen inside animals’ skin and bones. Injecting gelatin poses the risk of infection
    from synthetic growth hormones and BSE infectivity (mad cow disease).

    • Sodium chloride: Raises blood pressure and inhibits muscle contraction and growth.

    • Egg protein: Vaccines are prepared in eggs (certainly not organic). May contain growth hormones, antibiotics, and
    salmonella bacteria.

    • Thimerosal: A neurotoxic mercury which causes autism: There are 25 mcg in one average flu vaccine, and the EPA safety limit is 5 micrograms, so children who are vaccinated simultaneously with multiple* vaccines receive over 10 times the safety limit of mercury in one day.

    • Human albumin: The protein portion of blood from pooled
    human venous plasma; when injected causes fever, chills, hives, rash, headache, nausea, breathing difficulty, and rapid heart rate. Injecting “pooled blood” can result in a loss of body cell mass and cause immunodeficiency virus
    infection, or contain SV40, AIDS, cancer or Hepatitis B from drug addicts.

    *Aborted Fetal Cells: there seems to be a correlation between the use of aborted human fetal cells with the coincidental rise of autism. Several online articles corroborate that coincidence, e.g., http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es902057k Timing of Increased Autistic Disorder Cumulative Incidence by Michael E. McDonald and John F. Paul, NHEERL/EPA, February 2010, Vol. 44, Environmental Science & Technology.

    • Formaldehyde: Highly carcinogenic fluid used to
    embalm corpses. Ranked one of the most hazardous compounds to human health; can cause liver damage, gastrointestinal issues, reproductive deformation,
    respiratory distress and cancer. Plus, formaldehyde has been known to fail to deactivate the virus the vaccine is intended to cure, thus enabling a live virus to enter your blood and infect your system.

    • Phenoxyethanol: A glycol ether/chemical; highly toxic to the nervous system, kidneys, and liver. The FDA warns “can cause shut down of the central nervous system (CNS), vomiting and contact dermatitis” in cosmetics; imagine when injected into your blood.

    • Aluminum phosphate: Greatly increases toxicity of mercury, so caution about minimum mercury tolerance
    is therefore severely underestimated. CDC scientists and all doctors are well aware of this.

    • MSG (monosodium glutamate): When injected becomes
    a neurotoxin, causing CNS disorders and brain damage in children.

    Now knowing some of what you’re putting into your daughter’s body doesn’t this give you reason for pause? If not, here’s what Dr. Russell Blaylock says about the vaccination process:

    If we look at the science of the vaccination process itself, it’s becoming evident that the way they do the immunizations, the vaccine of sticking it into the muscle of your arm and your leg actually suppresses a lot of your immune system, particularly in young children. We found out that in fact it causes the immune system to switch to what we call TH2 type cytokine production, which inhibits immunity. And your major protection against virus, particularly the really virulent, deadly viruses and bacteria is your cellular immunity. Well vaccines don’t stimulate cellular immunity at all; in fact, they suppress it.

    Also:
    We have known for decades that getting the childhood diseases naturally results in a permanent immunity to the specific microorganism. Getting the vaccines results in a temporary immunity, meaning that susceptibility is
    deferred and repeated booster shots will be required for the ENTIRE life of the individual. In the 80s, the specific
    immune mechanisms involved in vaccine-induced immunity was discerned. In the 90s, the same mechanisms in humans were explored. T cells (thymus cells) are the major cell in the immune system; they direct and control all immune responses as well as immune memory. Subsets of T cells are the T-helper cells (Th). T-helper cells coordinate and direct the safest and most effective immune response. Using Moskowitz’s measles example, we know that, when infected with the measles
    virus naturally via the nasopharyngeal route, the body produces a Th1 response that externalizes the infection and provides permanent immunity. Fever, rash, coughing, sneezing, etc are signs of the body ridding itself of this infection. Bypassing the normal body lines of defense by injecting a vaccine forces the immune system into an
    emergency-based Th2 response which serves to internalize the infection. You don’t get the disease but are susceptible to the disease later since the Th2 response results in poor immune memory. So, if a natural, viral (measles) infection results in a Th1 response, why don’t we make vaccines that could elicit the same response. (To put this simply, Th2 cell response is not a precursor to initiating immunity. Th2 cell response induces an INFLAMMATORY response, locally and internally.
    TH1 cytokines initiates a immune response because it is stimulates via the “normal immune route” of the nose, throat, mouth, ears eyes etc.)

    In 1995, Golding and Scott, published the need for strategies to make vaccines that would generate the “required” Th cell to the corresponding microorganism. Since that time, attempts to produce vaccines that would generate a “natural”- type response have failed. So, we are left with vaccines that generate “protective” responses as a second choice. How does this work? In vaccine-induced Th2 responses, called humoral responses, the
    body produces large quantities of specific antibodies that block the virus from entering cells. This response is why a vaccinated child doesn’t get a full blown infection and why the child won’t spread as many viruses into the environment. However, antibodies cannot get into cells to eliminate viruses once the viruses are in the cells or cannot kill infected cells themselves. Therefore, the body
    has no choice other than to internalize the virus and be chronically infected when the body is forced into a Th2 antibody response. The body is essentially constipated with viruses that it cannot expel!

    If vaccines work than the CDC/Vaccine industry would do the study that the Government request they do 10 years ago-comparing the overall health of unvaccinated children to vaccinated. If vaccines work the CDC and Vaccine Industry would provide the government, various independent research groups and individuals who have requested the raw data from the studies they supposedly have done. Instead these groups are met with non-compliance even under the FOIA which is illegal. You think Kathleen Seilubus would move forward with some sort of legal action-No. She went to the media in 2009 and told them not to give anti-vaccine groups, especially experts any media time because it’s been proven vaccine work. So these groups have requested the data that substantiates that vaccine work. That was in 2009 and they are still waiting. You don’t hear about the adverse and deadly effects of vaccine in the media not because there is nothing to say, it’s because the HHS secretary Sebelius threw up a Chinese wall.
    http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/03/did-kathleen-sebelius-pressure-media-to-deny-vaccine-safety-voices.html

    -If you have a independent double blind placebo based study that states vaccines work, are safe and effective please provide link.

    -can you provide scientific evidence on ANY study which can confirm the long-term safety and effectiveness of vaccines?

    -can you provide scientific evidence which can prove that disease reduction in any part of the world, at any point in history was attributable to inoculation of populations?

    Your daughter is blessed with a wonderfully functioning immune system. It should be assisted to work at it’s optimum, not laden with chemicals that will ruin it.

  • elnura

    Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics
    http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

  • elnura

    The Gates are eugenics just as his parents were.
    Bill Gates says vaccines can help reduce world population:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/029911_vaccines_Bill_Gates.html

    Gates joins a long list of millionaire/billionaires who fund various medical charities who also believe in the practice of eugenics: The Rockerfellas, The Rothshides, The Windsors, The Kellogg Family, Henry Ford, Vanderbilt’s etc. There are many know who are not well know but the activities are covert. The more visible members of the group include Margaret Sanger, Winston Churchill, Marie Stopes, H. G. Wells, Norman Haire, Havelock Ellis, Theodore Roosevelt, George Bernard Shaw, John Maynard Keynes, John Harvey Kellogg, Linus Pauling and Sidney Webb to name a few.

    What a perfect way to forward their agenda under the guise of humanitarian work.

    The philosophy and practice of eugenics began in the US, not Germany.

  • Roxanne

    There is no hard evidence that vaccines increase longevity.
    Only long-term comprehensive monitoring of similar populations of vaccinated versus unvaccinated can indicate the respective states of health of each group. Given the inferior health seen in the vaccinated versus unvaccinated in dogs (Purdue study) and primates (Hewitson et al) (and I’d suggest in humans, too, in unofficial surveys comparing the two), I suspect – though don’t claim to “prove” – that the unvaccinated would have a longer and healthier lifespan.
    It should also be noted that those who are living into their
    nineties, one hundred + today were never administered
    mass vaccinations as children as we see in today’s
    jam packed, sooner than ever schedules. I know many such people who had either one, two or no shots as children. It’s purely speculative how today’s generation
    getting vaccines on steroids will fare years from now, but
    having seen children over many years, there’s no way
    that this lot is healthier than those born even in the 70’s. You have to be really out of touch not to notice just how sickly today’s kids are.

  • josh

    Jim, What I promote is the opposite of fear. You mistake say that there are highly toxic substance in vaccines and that that is not medicine as fear mongering. Im simply informing people that this is harmful and there is and has always been a better and safer way to obtain optimal health. This from a place of love which is the opposite of fear.

  • josh

    I know and people like jim refuse to admit that there is little “scientific” studies even done and the ones that are done are funded and ran by big pharma. So to me when they say science based medicine and are talking about the system in place they are using an oxymoron

  • josh

    Even though, sadly, I have heard similar stories more times then I can count. Its still heartbreaking everytime I hear another. Im so sorry this has happened to you.
    What did they say he died from ? SIDS? That seems to be one of their go to terms.

  • elnura

    According to the CIA Infant mortality rate the US in 2007 was 47th on the chart-2013, it’s standing has dropped to 2147th. Rwanda, Haiti, Laos, Sudan, Sengal Cambodia and other countries considered to be third world have a higher standing. Obviously something is wrong. I’m willing to bet the US standing will not be any higher next year.

  • Jim Bob

    Temporal association is not causation.
    I ate cheese for breakfast and then I slipped on the way to work and broke my arm. I blame the cheese.

  • Jim Bob

    Why won’t you just google life expectancy and birth rates to see that they are inversely proportional? Its right there. Its a known sociological fact.
    Josh, you’re either an idiot or willfully blind. Just look at the population numbers and you’ll see that you’re wrong.

  • Jim Bob

    Incorrect. Why do vaccine preventable diseases return when vaccination rates decrease?

  • Jim Bob

    As I’ve said, there is plenty of long term data on DTP, MMR Polio, Hib. There isn’t as much long term data on the new HPV vaccines.
    If you can’t find it, you aren’t looking. I can find it quite easily along with all the mumbo jumbo spouted by anti-vax kooks.

  • Jim Bob

    So what if something is made by man?
    Would you drink snake poison?
    It isn’t manufactured by man and it exists in nature. I think you’re falling into something called naturalistic fallacy.

  • Jim Bob

    Its fear mongering if you’re spreading false and incorrect information. I am trying to denounce false information also from a place of love so we don’t have dead and disabled children.

  • Jim Bob

    So the world’s population should be decreasing then because of Polysorbate 80?
    Is it?

    Common sense overrules you.

  • Wendy

    ” we all understand what would happen if we put gasoline into the fuel tank of a car with a Diesel engine, or vise versa. Needless to say, damage would occur to the engine of both vehicles because we attempted to use a source of energy for which the engines were not designed. The damage would occur quickly and be immediately apps rent. Two damaging processes would take place. In both cases, the engines would be starved for the components they need to operate smoothly, while being damaged by components that are not designed for. Most scientist and engineers would agree that the human being is the most intricate and amazing design known to the planet. Whether you believe that the creator is god or nature everyone agrees that the designer was not man. Man did not create man. Man did not create or design the earth or the universe. Man, regardless of desire or ego, does not posses the now ledge to fully comprehend the complexity of nature or the human blue print. With every new scientific discovery concerning the human body, we are yet further amazed by the majesty and intricacy of this grand design, obviously conceived by an intelligence far superior to our own.
    All the necessary components and nutrients for the sustenance of human life, as well as all living creatures on the planet, were also designed by this superior intelligence, not by man.
    A wise person concedes the fact, that for man to claim the ability to create a superior design opposed to the natural food sources and healing agents of the superior intelligence, for the long term benefit of man, is simply misguided false hood and foolish arrogance motivated in large by lust for profit.
    The current periodic table of elements , used universally in the field of chemistry list 110 known elements including; gases, solids, liquids, and “synthetics.” Twenty out of the 110 known elements listed are man-made or synthetic. Reflecting on mans ability to create a “superior” element is the fact that ALL TWENTY man-made synthetic elements are either a contamination hazard, radioactive, or both!”
    The Code of Life by Dr. Ronald P. Drucker
    If you don’t see the difference open your eyes. Perhaps you are one of the misguided foolish arrogant men motivated by your lust for profit.

  • Roxanne

    Please present the long-term data that compares cancer, SIDS, asthma, diabetes, auto-immune disorders etc. between vaccinated and non-vaccinated populations.
    As for the mumbo jumbo defended by pro-vax kooks, you need look no further than the vaccine “safety” trials that routinely use NON-INERT placebos – violating the very foundation of research integrity.

  • Roxanne

    If you actually read what I said, I said that I found the absence of study re. impacts of vaccines on fertility
    troubling. As I also noted in a comment sent to Josh
    a day ago (just below), “no one knows the impacts vaccines could play re. infertility.”
    Re. Polysorbate 80 in vaccines, the earliest monograph I can find it listed on is from 1997. **If Polysorbate 80 was not
    used or widely used in vaccines until the late 90’s then
    common sense rules that any potential impacts will not
    become evident until girls who received vaccines with it enter their prime childbearing years. Future study of infertility rates of the vaccinated vs unvaccinated may, indeed, reap more definitive answers.

  • Wendy

    You either ignorant of the truth ( unlikely) or a liar! Bs

  • josh

    You are spreading the false info, not I and you are doing it in a way to scare people into using allopathic medicine. “so we don’t have dead and disabled children.” is fear mongering and a lie. People are being killed by allopathic medicine not from using nature to bust their immune system and allow it to heal itself naturally.

  • josh

    So if birth rate were to then rise it would be caused because the life expectancy would lower? That’s what your logic is saying.
    Btw you didn’t answer how life expectancy effects birth rate in the way you claim.

  • josh

    How many many kids does this have to happen to before you will say maybe just maybe it caused it?

  • Guest

    Your avoiding the question. Just because

  • St_Ann

    UN estimates that in 20 years we will have to double our production of food. Yet there is no more land that can be used for additional farming, unless we cut down the remaining forests. So yes, our planet has its limits.

  • Guest

    Seen your posts over on Natural News. Every time you post you make yourself look like a complete c*nt. :)

  • guest233

    Yes but jim, those studies are altered to say what THEY want them to say. In other words they think nothing of lying to promote vaccines. There is too much money to lose.Something is very wrong with injecting more than 60 vaccines in children before the age of 6. Every child injured by vaccines is met with dismissal and ‘indifference by doctors and hospital staff. What we do know is since the advent of vaccines the incidence of autism has become an epidemic.

  • Roxanne

    You actually think the ten categories of vaccine ingredients are naturally found in healthy soil?! Please view the excellent documentary, ‘Dirt’ and learn a thing or two
    about the stuff.

  • Roxanne

    “With every new scientific discovery concerning the human body, we are yet further amazed by the majesty and intricacy of this grand design, obviously conceived by an intelligence far superior to our own.” You’ve put it so eloquently, Wendy.
    Have you seen the documentary, ‘Dirt’, that elaborates on
    the wonders of what far too many of us take for granted or even – in our ignorance – scorn?

  • Wendy

    Thank you Roxanne though I can not take credit for composing it just merely using it to defend nature and crush trolls who don’t see the difference between synthetic and natural. Dr. Ronald P Drucker wrote this in his book The Code of Life. It a good read. I haven’t seen Dirt but definitely will look for it. ;)

  • josh

    Its so annoying when they use the “well its already in food” cpmment as an argument for allowing it in vaccines. Just because it is currently allowed in foods in the us(a lot of toxic ingredients allowed in the us food supply are ban in the other industrialized counties.) food supply when it shouldn’t be doesn’t mean we should be adding it to more foods or “medicine”.

  • josh

    A sterilizing agent would effect the birth rate becasue it makes people infertile becasue of this it would take a while to see it effect the overall population stats.
    You have argued that when bill gates said use vaccines to lower the population of the world by 15%, that he meant that vaccines do not kill but instead elongate life which his lowered the birth rate already. So you admit that the birth rate is lowering, A sterilizing agent can effect birth rate however the population living longer would not. You have yet to give one logical reason why it would effect the it in this manor, all you have done was use the ad hoc fallacy of well in countries with rising life expectancies their is a lower birth rate so longer life expectancy is causing this. Correlation does not imply causation. I know you know this becasue you have tried to discredit a mother who blamed vaccines when her healthy boy died 3 days after getting vaccinated, Making you the worst kind of troll and a disturbing human

  • josh

    What you are doing is using a red herring to steer the conversion away from a question she asked.
    She is not saying everything found in nature is safe, which is a naturalistic fallacy. She is clearly saying that toxins are harmful for the body and don’t provide the nutrition that the the body needs. This is not a naturalistic fallacy its scientific fact, which is why you used the red herring in the first place.

  • josh

    That is profound. Im going to have to read this book.

  • josh

    You mean the same Swedish people that don’t vaccinate against measles, and when they get it as a child, their immune system handles it like it would chickenpox? People like jim leave this little tid bit out when they cite the measles outbreaks from Sweden.

  • Wendy

    +1 Josh I would recommend it to anyone.

  • Roxanne

    Yes, re. the doc. ‘Dirt’ do try to view and share it. It’s done very well – both very entertaining and informative. As I pointed out to JB above, it’s absurd to think healthy soil (the giver of life) carries the toxic stew that is injected via vaccines.

  • Roxanne

    Hi Josh, as I also mentioned to Wendy, it’s worth seeing
    the documentary ‘Dirt’. (see comments below)

  • Roxanne

    Hi Josh, this was what I was referring to in regards to
    the pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine. The whole
    article is worth a read.

    “Let’s take whooping cough as an example. In 1979 Sweden withdrew use of the DTP vaccine on the basis that it was not effective and possibly unsafe. The fear, of course, would be that with lower vaccination rates, the death rate would increase. So what happened in this case? A 1995 letter from Victoria Romanus at the Swedish Institute of Infectious Disease Control indicated that deaths from whooping cough remained near zero. Sweden’s population was 8,294,000 in 1979 and 8,831,000 by 1995. From 1981 to 1993, eight children were recorded as dying, with the cause of death listed as pertussis. This averaged to be about 0.6 children per year possibly dying from whooping cough. These numbers show that the odds of dying from pertussis in Sweden were about 1 in 13,000,000 even when there was no national vaccination program”. [6] – See more at:
    *** Plus, of course, they aren’t getting assaulted with
    this awful vaccine linked to serious conditions and death.
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2013/11/12/vaccines-a-peek-beneath-the-hood-by-roman-bystrianyk-and-suzanne-humphries-md/#sthash.RHxKAFAU.dpuf

  • Roxanne

    Agreed, it’s an absurd argument. Below are some quotes
    of which about three discuss the difference between
    injection versus digestion.
    “When we eat protein it is broken down into its constituent amino acids…if a foreign animal protein makes it into our bloodstream without having being broken down this can set up an autoimmune type response…By injecting things never meant to be in the body we are not only bypassing body defenses but wrongly activating other defenses.”

    Robyn Cosford MD, Documentary ‘Vaccination:The Hidden Truth’

    “In the Rimavexmeasles vaccine we found various chicken viruses. In polio vaccine, we found acanthomeba which is so called ”brain-eating” ameba. Simian cytomegatovias in the polio vaccine, simian foamy in the rotavirus vaccine, bird cancer viruses in the MMR vaccine.various organisms in the anthrax vaccine, dangerous enzyme inhibitors in several vaccines. Duck, dog and rabbit viruses in the rubella vaccine. Avian leucosis virus in the flu vaccine, postivirus in the MMR vaccine… Also, most don’t know that some polio vaccines, adenovirus vaccines, rubella, Hepatitis A measles vaccines etc. have been made with aborted human fetal tissue.”
    Dr. Mark Randall (pseudonym) former NIH researcher and vaccine developer for major pharmaceuticals, interviewed by investigative journalist John Rappoport

    “A single vaccine given to a six pound newborn is the equivalent of giving a 180 pound adult 30 vaccinations on the same day. Include the toxic effects of high levels of aluminum and formaldehyde contained in some vaccines, and the synergist toxicity could be increased to unknown levels…Bilary transport is the major biochemical route by which mercury is removed from the body, and infants cannot do this very well. They also do not possess the renal (kidney)capacity to remove aluminum. Additionally, mercury is well-known inhibitor of kidney function.”
    Boyd Haley PhD., Professor and Chair, Department of Chemistry, University of Kentucky

    “It’s important to remember when you hear from vaccine safety promoters that ethylmercury (in thimerosal) disappears from the blood in several days, that the mercury leaves the plasma and enter the brain where it de-ethylated and remains for a lifetime…What they fail to mention is that only 7% of methylmercury is converted to ionic mercury whereas 34% of ethlymercury is converted in a short time.”
    Russel Blaylock MD, Neurosurgeon, ‘Vaccines Neurodevelopment and Autism Spectrum Disorders 3/12/08

    Mercury: Ingestion versus Injection

    “In eating, a complex food containing tissue-bound mercury species, the person’s digestive system containing metallothionen compounds reduce the amount of mercury that enters the body to some fraction of mercury in that food. In contrast all the mercury in a vaccine enters the body… Mercury in breast milk has been exposed to the protective proteins in the mother’s human toxic protection system… the 360 micrograms/180 days or 2 micrograms/day of methyl mercury delivered over a twenty-four hour period. A vaccine contains 12.5 to 25 micrograms of ethyl mercury- a six to twelve fold increase is injected instead of ingested within one minute. In some vaccines, it is also combined with polymeric aluminum hydroxyl materials… which has been shown to raise the potential toxicity of thimerosal.”
    Andrew Wakefield MD, FRCS, FRCPath

    “It is clear from our analysis shown in Table 1 that US infants are exposed to mercury levels from their childhood immunization schedule that far exceed the EPA and FDA established maximum permissible levels for the daily oral ingestion of methyl mercury. The fact that mercury in vaccines is given by injection rather than oral ingestion only makes the exposure levels worse because Grier et al. showed that the distribution of foreign particles in mice reached several logs higer concentration in organs following intraveneous or intramuscular injection than via oral ingestion.”
    Mark Geier, MD, PhD, ‘Thimerosal in Childhood Vaccines, Neurodevelopmental Disorders and Heart Disease in the United States, Grier et al

  • Roxanne

    Agreed, they are junk studies that use fake placebos, are
    short-term, don’t look for links to a slew of conditions etc.

  • Roxanne

    Jeffry, please, please delete the latest entry with the
    incorrect vran link I tried to send re. the latest article by Shawn asap… thanks for your valuable work.

  • josh

    I have know need to have a conversation with any allopathic doctor. lol Anyone that takes the Hippocratic oath that disregards Hippocrates’ teaching, is nothing more than a drug pusher in my eyes.

  • josh

    I was going to watch it at a library in Washington state, but had to move home help my sick sister right before it was shown. I haven’t gotten around to watching it yet.

  • josh

    Thanks, I haven’t seen this report. The same thing is being shown for measles in the unvaccinated parts of Sweden. They get measles, with very few dying from it, or getting one of the more severe complications. they then have life long immunity. I have had trolls use the measles outbreak in Sweden as proof we need vaccines for it but they always leave out these facts.

  • Wendy

    Very wise!

  • josh

    I have watched or listened to hours of doctors blaylock and wakefield lectures or speaking arrangements. It doesn’t take long to see how highly intelligent and ethical/moral these guys are. I cant image anyone that has listened to them speak, still believing all the propaganda about these to heroes.

  • Roxanne

    I hope your sister’s health starts improving soon, Josh.

  • roxanne

    Do you have a link re. the measles in Sweden? (No worries
    if it is a hassle to find)
    The trolls besides: 1) grossly exaggerating the nature and death rate of measles (most often successfully treated with Vitamin A in rare serious cases-whereas inappropriate
    fever reduction via pharmacheuticals causes complications) 2) denying the horrible toll of the MMR vaccine – also fail to grasp or simply deny the huge impact of mothers vaccinated against measles not being able to pass on antibodies to their babies. Just one example of vaccines
    backfiring because they shift a normally benign
    childhood disease to infants or teens, adults when complications are more likely to arise. As you said, getting the disease gives life long immunity and trains the immune system for more serious challenges in life.

  • roxanne

    Exactly, brilliant doctors like Blaylock, Wakefield, Andrew
    Moulden etc. are routinely denounced as part of well
    orchestrated smear tactics to attempt to discredit their critically insightful work. There are so many who pay the price for speaking out but thankfully, some have the backbone to stand for what is right in the face of the pharma cartel and its lackeys in “health organizations” etc. Have you read or seen Dr. Rebecca Carley on Vaccines: Weapon of Mass Destruction?

  • josh

    It did after I had her detox the heavy metals and got her off the processed junk and gmo’s. She was 25 at the time and was fainting a lot and at the end her face and her whole left side went numb like a stroke, she was walking around like a 80 year old.

  • josh

    It was used by paul davis weeks ago to counter the outbreaks I was citing that contained very high percentage of vaccinated kids. He came up with case where the majority were unvaccinated. Inside the outbreak review, it said that it only effected the kids to young to have missed the last outbreak and that no kid that was in the older age group got measles. Im pretty sure it was from a religious part of Sweden but may be wrong. Im sure I can find the exact cite he used if not can find an article talking about it. Ill look for it in the am when im more awke

  • josh

    No I haven’t read about her stuff. I was more up on the doctors that were actually telling the truth about the dangers and ineffectiveness of vaccines a few years ago. I kinda shifted more to holistic cures for aliments but have recently came back.

  • roxanne

    Thanks for sharing this. Your sister has is fortunate to have
    a brother who cares and is steering her health in the right
    direction. What therapies/treatments did you use for her
    heavy metals, and how has she progressed? Re. the
    Swedish measles info, no worries about looking for it…
    This thread has had it’s day, so no need to reply if too busy.
    Thanks again for sharing re. your sister’s situation.

  • josh

    I got her to add certain food that help the body detox like Cilantro, Garlic, turmeric, Beets ect ect. The man thing was she was eating so much processed food so I got her to go to sprouts and loaded her up with superfoods filled with the nutrients that her body was missing.
    I cant remember which one, but I ordered her some herbal supplements used in ayurvedic medicine, to help thin her body and help with circulation. The most important thing may have been the holy basil, to help with the stress that was clearly a major contributor.
    I cant seem to find the link to the Swedish measle outbreak. Im sure I will bump into it when im not looking lol

  • Guest

    Oh my!
    I can’t believe you’re so incredibly stupid!

  • Guest

    Overpopulation is the root cause of so much misery, poverty, and suffering in third world countries. You should educate yourself about the goals of the Gates foundation before spouting such crap, you stupid ignorant crank!

  • Guest

    You’re misinterpreting his speech, fu’ktard!

  • Guest

    People in third world countries try to have as many children as they can because they know most of their children will not survive. If you can’t see the logic in such a simple concept then you’re mentally subnormal.

  • josh

    What you just said, has nothing to do with longer life expectancy leadin to lower birth rate. Which is what jim bob is trying to claim.

  • josh

    What you just said, has nothing to do with longer life expectancy leading to lower birth rate. Which is what jim bob is trying to claim

  • Kelvin

    What guest said has everything to do with longer life expectancy leading to lower birth rate. What are you, an imbecile?

  • Kelvin

    No, quite the opposite in fact. Do your homework.

  • roxanne

    Did the person who voted this down actually view the documentary?!

  • roxanne

    Good stuff, Josh. Your sister is blessed to have a brother who is as caring and involved as you are… Whomever
    voted this comment down must be pathetic…. A brother
    helping his sister, come on!

  • josh

    I have pharma trolls follow me around and down vote my comments. I got 3 down votes a few comments up, just by telling the symptoms she was having and saying I had her heavy metal detox.

  • josh

    Guest is you or another one of your fellow shills.
    He is flat out wrong with what he said but even if he was right it has nothing to do with the higher le= lower br

  • So is that why over 9000 cases have been denied in that court? With only just over 3000 settled? If you barely had to show any evidence, then most of those 9000 cases would have been paid. What training have doctors and pediatricians ever had in their pharma schooling, but to take to the denialist mindset, that vaccine damage simply does not ever happen? Such claims are not dependent on what your doctor thinks.Your comments contain just a disgusting level of dishonesty.

    http://www.vacfacts.info/national-vaccine-injury-compensation-program—payout-data.html

  • Kelvin

    Oh dear, you can’t seriously expect that reply to get you off the hook, surely? It is, as guest stated, a simple concept. I can only conclude that you’re in denial.

  • Guest

    I think I can shed some light on this. People are lazy, skimming through the comments they see a face they recognize every second post, far too many to read them all, but since they relate that face to an ignorant little git they just vote down all your posts.

  • Samantha

    Kelvin I think he genuinely doesn’t understand. Are you familiar with his posts?

  • roxanne

    Trolls are truly twisted. What counts is that your sister has
    someone to steer in a healthier direction and her life becomes better for it. The best to both of you.

  • josh

    Mr shill, do me a favor and for once explain something in more detail than “its a simple concept”. How exactly does le make the br drop?(you guys claim to be all about science, yet you don’t seem to get that just because there is a correlation does not mean its the causation.) Please show how vaccines have been proven to raise le. You cant answer ever so you do what shills do and throw out red herrings.

  • Kelvin

    Usually people don’t get favors from me by calling me names. You need to learn some respect.

    However, I’m in a charitable mood so I’ll make an exception.

    As guest
    explained above, the birth rate is high in many third world countries
    because parents know their children have a low chance of survival.
    Vaccines change all that. The children live long and healthy, so there
    is no longer the need to over breed.

    Do you understand now?

  • Kelvin

    Yes, I’m getting the picture. :)

  • josh

    I need to learn respect? You have called me a imbecile how many times? A shill is saying you get paid to write what you write not an insult so it is you that need to learn respect.
    Guest did indeed say that, but it is not true and vaccines do not help the survival of babies either. Unvaccinated kids are far more healthy.

  • Kelvin

    Oh good, I shall suffer your insolence no more. Or will I?

    I see a familiar pattern here; Person of subnormal intellect loses an argument, tries to cover it with a nonsensical rant, then declares their participation at an end. It’s a cop-out technique for bowing out when you realise you’re in over your head.

    I don’t care if you lead your life with your head up your arse, but if you attempt to mislead others with your idiocy and lies then expect to be taken to task.

  • Kelvin, I wonder if you have read the Karachi Soap Study? Can you show me evidence how vaccines do better than soap?

    Additionally, you will find plenty of information on infant mortality and piped water in third world countries.

    I don’t think it’s as easy as you say – get vaccinated and you live a long healthy life. There are other important variables to consider.

  • Kelvin

    No Jeffry, I have not read that, but sanitation certainly can help to prevent disease. If you wash your hands regularly and avoid touching your nose or eyes (easier said than done!) then you can reduce your risks of catching viruses, such as colds and flu. However, no amount of personal hygiene can protect you from ingested or airborne pathogens.

  • Kelvin

    Thanks Jeffry, that’s an interesting study.

    For those that don’t have time to read it the conclusion is that “regular handwashing with soap is very effective in preventing diarrhoea and respiratory disease, two of the leading causes of global childhood death. Handwashing with daily bathing also prevents impetigo.”

    The study was conducted in adjoining squatter settlements in Karachi, Pakistan.

    I find the results unsurprising given the poor sanitation and open sewers in such settlements.

  • gobears

    You guys need to wake up. It’s alarming how many of you actually believe this kind of stuff. If it weren’t for vaccines, many of you would be dead due to measles or smallpox or some other infectious disease.

    READ THE SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE. There is no causal relationship between vaccines and autism. The rates are the same for vaccinated and unvaccinated children. As for this article specifically, this pentavalent vaccine has been proven safe and well tolerated. It also reduces and simplifies the immunization schedule.

    Stop getting your information from a former Playboy.

  • You must get your information from Jennifer Lopez.

  • sabelmouse

    the miracle is that we came all these millennia!

  • Jessica

    But there has never been a study of vaccinated vs. non-vaccinated?!?!

  • Deidre

    Maybe you’re the one misinterpreting his speech. Hold of the insults and maybe you’ll be taken seriously.

  • Deidre

    Aren’t you fear mongering in the same way JimBob when you are worried about getting an illness, even though that would be the best way for your immune system to fight that illness later? You don’t trust your body enough to protect itself from getting too sick, so instead let’s rely the almighty human race to do it, right? You know, that race that is so big on murder and rape and war and keeping the elite alive? Sorry, there just isn’t enough evidence our there for me to believe that there are absolutely no long term negative affects brought on by vaccines. If I had to choose what to be more afraid of, my baby getting sick or my baby getting injected with about 15 vaccines at the same time, I’d pick my baby getting sick. Unless I know for sure what will exactly happen to my baby as a side effect of the vaccines he/she is given, I will not be putting HepB, flu or polio vaccines in my kids.

  • telv

    1 in 3 have or will develop cancer, 1 in 50 Autism. Real healthy

  • Carol E.

    Look up Sherri Tenpenny on YouTube. Com. She is a medical doctor and research specialist regarding vaccines. ALL her information comes from CDC and other main stream pro vaccine entities regarding studies and scientific documentation. She thousands of links to partial and complete papers listed on fairly new site for anyone to search them self. Parents are never given this information by their physician, many of who are ignorant of this information themself. Many physicians are like computers, they can only output the information that has been strategically put in and refuse to acknowledge comments and obvious cause and effect regarding the thousands upon thousands of reactions in perfectly healthy children directly following injection. Insane.

  • Carol E.

    Look up Sherri Tenpenny on YouTube.Com

    She verifies this information. She is a specialist in research regarding vaccine and is a medical doctor. Lots and lots of information!

  • Carol E.

    Youtube.com
    Sherri Tenpenny

  • Carol E.

    Listen to Dr. Sherri Tenpenny ‘ s information on YouTube.

  • Cheyney snow

    Your a tard. Warnings.. page 11. Autism. You have you’re kid tolerate it then ..& ours wont

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