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The CDC Made These Two Radical Changes and 30,000 Diagnoses of Polio Instantly Disappeared

The graph is from the Ratner report (1), the transcript of a 1960 panel sponsored by the Illinois Medical Society, on which sat three PhD statisticians and an MD, met to discuss the problems with the ongoing polio vaccination campaign.

Ratner Chart

The polio vaccine was licensed in the U.S. in 1954. From ‘50 thru ‘55, the striped and clear portions of the bars represent about 85% of the reported cases, or 30,000 per year, on average. Those cases were automatically eliminated by two radical changes the CDC made to the diagnostic parameters and labeling protocol of the disease as soon as the vaccine was licensed – 30,000 cases a year we were subsequently told were eliminated by the vaccine.

That success, held aloft as a banner of the industry, is an illusion. The CDC has an awesome power of control over public perception, sculpting it from behind closed doors in Atlanta, with the point of a pen.

Over the last sixty years in the U.S., more than a million cases of what would have been diagnosed as polio pre-vaccine – same symptoms – were given different labels.

The change didn’t stop there, however. As addressed in the Ratner report, they also changed the definition of a polio epidemic, greatly reducing the likelihood that any subsequent outbreaks would be so labeled – as though the severity, or noteworthiness, of paralytic polio had halved, overnight. It’s summed up thusly in the report:

Presently [1960], a community is considered to have an epidemic when it has 35 cases of polio per year per 100,000 population. Prior to the introduction of the Salk vaccine the National Foundation defined an epidemic as 20 or more cases of polio per year per 100,000 population. On this basis there were many epidemics throughout the United States yearly. The present higher rate has resulted in not a real, but a semantic elimination of epidemics.

And that’s precisely what happened to polio: not a real, but a semantic elimination of the disease.

In the decades following the release of the vaccine, additional changes were made to the diagnostic parameters of the disease, changes involving analysis of cerebrospinal fluid and stool and additional testing (2) , each succeeding change making it less and less likely that a diagnosis of paralytic polio would result.

And, critically, before the vaccine was licensed polio diagnoses were made clinically and accepted from around the nation, duly reported to the American public annually as polio, no lab analysis required, while after it was licensed only the CDC was – and is – allowed to issue confirmations of paralytic polio – all suspected cases had to be sent to them for analysis and testing. (3)

Again, perception is key. Because of the persistent pre-vaccine news coverage of the disease, including film footage of paralytic polio victims in leg braces, or immobilized, strapped to huge, inclined boards, or housed in foreboding iron lungs, the public pictured the thousands of kids reported with polio each year as suffering terribly, when in truth the pictures involved only a fraction of a percent of the diagnosed cases.

Moreover, while for many the perception was that the iron lung was a permanent fixture, in the majority of cases the machine was needed only temporarily – generally about one to two weeks. (4)

The arbitrariness of the change in the diagnostic parameter of paralytic polio, from one day of paralysis to two months, resulting specifically in the elimination of all the cases represented by the striped portions of the bars in the graph, is remarkable. Indeed, the very idea that the length of time you’re ill determines the disease is remarkable!, and flies in the face of the science of virology.

Were you to apply the same logic to measles diagnostics, for instance, and add the requirement of a rash that lasts ten days, the disease would be eradicated, since the measles rash lasts from three to five days. To the point, had they made the requirement three months of paralysis instead of two, several additional thousands of cases of paralytic polio would simply and immediately have fallen off the diagnostic plate, hastening the illusion of complete eradication.

All of the non-paralytic cases, represented by the clear portions of the bars in the graph, and which pre-vaccine were the majority of cases reported simply as polio each year, were discarded completely!, reclassified. A search through public health department disease statistics reveals that in the U.S. those cases were basically handled as they were in Canada:

It may be noted that the Dominion Council of Health at its 74th meeting in October 1958 recommended that for the purposes of national reporting and statistics the term non-paralytic poliomyelitis be replaced by ‘meningitis, viral or aseptic’ with the specific viruses shown where known. (5)

Somewhat remarkable too, eh?, that virtually overnight an entire category of disease is simply abandoned; replaced.

The current non-use of the iron lung is often pointed out by vaccine proponents as proof of the success of the polio vaccine, but that, too, is an illusion; years ago it was replaced by much smaller, portable respirators, some body worn, some bedside – and much in use today.

You’ve gotta give ‘em credit for the hubris. Vaccine proponents will actually cite the fact that many illnesses were misdiagnosed as polio pre-vaccine, attempting to explain why the changes following its licensing were necessary, not necessarily nefarious. But as always, perception is the key, as in any magic act, and the CDC on its website continues to forward the illusion they themselves created:

How common was polio in the United States?

Polio was one of the most dreaded childhood diseases of the 20th century in the United States. [Periodic epidemics increased] in size and frequency in the late 1940s and early 1950s. An average of over 35,000 cases were reported during this time period. With the introduction of Salk inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV) in 1955, the number of cases rapidly declined to under 2,500 cases in 1957. By 1965, only 61 cases of paralytic polio were reported. (6)

In reality, the charade was continuing right on schedule: Of the ‘35,000 cases of polio reported on average in the late 1940s and early 1950s’, only 15,000 were paralytic – the reduction to 2,500 cases of paralytic polio in 1957, and the complete disappearance of all the non-paralytic cases, was a direct result of the diagnostic changes. It’s smoke ‘n mirrors.

Find the disease label...

There are a few more puzzle pieces which help complete the picture, the unavoidably undeniable pattern, of conscious, purposeful manipulation of statistics:

In the 90s, “polio eradication initiatives” were implemented in India and Africa. The WHO quickly established the same diagnostic changes in those nations as were made in the U.S. in 1955. The result, as expected, was the announcement two years ago that India is now polio free. What the WHO so conveniently omitted was any mention of the skyrocketing incidence, in both nations, of acute flaccid paralysis (7) , clinically identical to polio, and following in the wake of the use of the oral polio vaccine, abandoned fifteen years ago in the U.S. because it triggers Vaccine Associated Paralytic Polio:

To eliminate the risk of vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis (VAPP), as of January 1, 2000, OPV was no longer recommended for routine immunization in the United States.(8)

India - Polio vs AFP

As you can see, the incidence of acute flaccid paralysis quickly soared to tens of thousands, far surpassing the 1996 incidence of polio.

Midst the labeling deceptions lies another insidious character trait of the vaccine industry. During the polio epidemics in the 40s and 50s in the U.S., one doctor, Fred Klenner, MD, cured every one of the sixty polio patients he treated, some of them paralyzed, using massive injections of vitamin C. Astoundingly, after summarizing his work, his success, at the annual AMA meeting in 1949, Dr. Klenner received neither questions nor comment from his colleagues, and no mention of it was ever made to the American public. (9)

The nut: the eradication of polio is a total sham, an example of trust misplaced, of power and control run amok. It’s indicative of every aspect of the vaccination paradigm, propelled by a baseless, industry-constructed fear of infectious disease, statistical manipulation and withholding of critical information, and sustained, ironically, by the very and insidious nature of vaccine injury, the bulk of which displays temporally well divorced from the act of the vaccination, obfuscating causal relation.

 

References

  1. http://www.greatmothersquestioningvaccines.com/…
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#cite_note-PinkBook2009-1
  3. Suspected cases of poliomyelitis must be reported immediately to local or state health departments. CDC compiles and summarizes clinical, epidemiologic, and laboratory data concerning suspected cases. Three independent experts review the data and determine whether a suspected case meets the clinical case definition of paralytic poliomyelitishttp://wonder.cdc.gov/wonder/…
  4. Historically, a noninvasive, negative-pressure ventilator, more commonly called an iron lung, was used to artificially maintain respiration during an acute polio infection until a person could breathe independently (generally about one to two weeks). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poliomyelitis#Paralytic_polio
  5. From: Poliomyelitis Trends, 1958, published by the Dominion Bureau of Statistics, Ottawa, Canada; Catalog No. 82-204
  6. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/polio/dis-faqs.htm
  7. https://extranet.who.int/polis/public/CaseCount.aspx
  8. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/polio/
  9. http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerbio.html

 

Photo Credit

Shawn Siegel
 

  • km

    Sadly, vaccine makers have no incentive to change their ways. They make huge profits but are totally protected from lawsuits because Congress granted them immunity in 1986. Families are paying for the damages vaccines are causing.

    If you want to change this, please sign this petition

    petitions.moveon.org/sign/repeal-immunity-for-drug
    facebook.com/pages/Repeal-The-National-Childhood-Vaccine-Injury-Act-of-1986/693229134132332

    Protect kids, not drug makers!The law is corrupt and immoral.

    Kindly pass this on to everyone you know. Together, hopefully, we can make a difference!

  • Here’s an analysis of the Detroit polio epidemic of 1958. They had a big epidemic, but when they went in and examined the cases, it turned out that less than 1/3 of the patients even had polio virus, and whether it is what was causing their problem is of course even then unclear. Maybe they would have beat it easy without some other factor (eg DDT).
    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=327642

  • Adam Barlow

    I heard that polio was relabeled muscular dystrophy. Here is an article that points out various other names as well:http://www.whale.to/vaccine/polio1.html

  • AutismDad

    Why do you think vaccines don’t cause autism according to the OFFICIAL WORD?? Definitions of what is or isn’t a vaccine side effect. Autism, likely the most negative outcome of all has been simply defined out of the running.

  • guest

    1954 Francis Trials
    The1954 Francis Trials were unique. The trial was comprised of three groups of children: vaccinated, injected Placebo controlled, and observed placebo controlled. Observed meaning that observed children were not injected with anything, just simply watched. What was the outcome?

    According to BMJ:“If the Salk vaccine trials were to succeed, it was essential that they be a great national event, enlisting volunteers, doctors, and parents in one united effort that represented the culmination of 15 years of work and faith.”

    The trial was part medical and part public relations.
    There is a detailed analysis of the field trials and polio cases at this link: https://explorevaccines.wordpress(dot)com/category/polio-ipvopv/.

    Some comments from the link above:
    The 1955, Journal of American Statistical Assn 50: 1005- 1013, stated of the Francis report: 59% of the trial was worthless because of lack of adequate controls. The remaining 41% may have been alright, but contains internal evidence of bias in favour of the vaccinated.

    To demonstrate the lengths the medical industrial complex will go to deceive and manipulate the world when it comes to making money off of diseases, this is what Hilary Butler wrote in an article on missing information:

    Information important to the truthful depiction of history is removed either incidentally, or deliberately. Here is an example to check out for yourself. Go to your medical library, and ask to see the United States Polio Surveillance Unit’s bulletins from 1955 to 1970. They were listed as “missing” in all New Zealand medical libraries, the last time I tried. Every single medical library in USA, that someone checked out for me, also has them listed as “missing”.

    There is one place you can see them, as far as I know, and that is in the United States American Medical Association Library. The only snag is that you have to have top security clearance to see them, according to someone who tried to access them.

    Why might this be? When he was alive, Dr Ratner had copies of them at his home. He gave me many of the years’ data I wanted. They clearly showed that from the inception of the SALK vaccine, to it’s discontinuation, the vaccine had MINUS efficacy and was actually causing more polio in the vaccinated than in the unvaccinated.

    Any studious person looking at those Government stats in retrospect, would be able to see clearly that the political and media canonization of SALK and his vaccine was a mirage of duplicity upon duplicity.

    I have NOT known a time, in the last 25 years, where any medical library has made it easy for members of the public, to do any meaningful research. Even though our taxes keep these libraries running. http://www.beyondconformity(dot)org.nz/BlogRetrieve.aspx?PostID=38001&A=SearchResult&SearchID=7224506&ObjectID=38001&ObjectType=55.

    Explore Vaccines has a few of the statics:
    The statistics from the Polio Surveillance Units stats are now classified. But what they show is that:
    -In 1955 there were 7,886 cases of paralytic polio, 15% of them, were vaccinated.
    -In 1956, 7210 paralytic cases, 16% vaccinated. Non paralytic polio, 6027 cases, 32% vaccinated.
    -In 1957, 2172 cases paralytic polio, 30% vaccinated, 2,603 non paralytic polio, 54% vaccinated.
    -In 1958, 3122 paralytic polio cases, 33% vaccinated.

    Here are some of the outcomes of states where the vaccine was mandatory. Polio cases rose about 300 to 400% in these 5 places that made the Salk vaccine compulsory by law:
    -North Carolina: 78 cases in 1958 before compulsory shots. 313 cases in 1959.
    -Connecticut: 45 cases in 1958 before compulsory shots. 123 cases in1959.
    -Tennessee: 119 cases in 1958 before compulsory shots. 386 cases in 1959.
    -Ohio: 17 cases in 1958 before compulsory shots. 52 cases in 1959.
    -Los Angeles: 89 cases in 1958 before compulsory shots. 190 cases in1959.

    In June, 1955, James C. Spaulding, a staff writer for the Milwaukee Journal
    covered an American Medical Association convention. Here is what Spaulding
    learned and reported on June 19, 1955: “A policy of secrecy and deception has
    been followed by the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis and the U.S.
    Public Health Service in the polio vaccine programs. As a result the nation’s
    physicians were prevented from learning vital information about the trouble in
    making and testing Salk vaccine… The secrecy and deception started before the
    field trials.”

    By 1960, the Salk vaccine had proven to be so hazardous and ineffective, that
    the Journal of the American Medical Association (February 25, 1961) carried an
    article admitting that, “It is now generally recognized that much of the Salk
    vaccine used in the U.S. has been worthless.”

    In 1958, the CDC formally adopted the “Best available paralytic poliomyelitis case count” or BAPPCC:
    “Cases must be clinically and epidemiologically compatible with poliomyelitis,
    must have resulted in paralysis, and must have a residual neurological deficit 60 days after onset of initial symptoms. .. the BAPPCC does not include cases of nonparalytic poliomyelitis, of those in which paralysis is more transient. The original purpose of developing these criteria was to omit cases possibly due to enteroviruses other than polioviruses.”

    Prior to the name change a patient had to experience the paralysis for 24 hours.

  • Free People

    This has been going on since the discovery of vaccines with the notorious
    fake, quack Edward Jenner ‘smallpox’ hoax. Edward Jenner suppressed reports indicating his ‘vaccine concept’ was causing more smallpox death and spreading of the disease than saving lives. Medical quack historians have reported pure LIES about how the ‘vaccination’ process wiped out smallpox throughout the world, when truth is that compulsory vaccination was abandoned because more deaths were caused by the vaccinations than there were cases of smallpox.

    A sleight of the hand trick was used to foster the claim that smallpox was
    eradicated by the vaccination practice. Everyone who had been vaccinated and who developed smallpox was then diagnosed as having chicken pox instead… (same as what VaxInc does today, change the name of the disease to save the diabolical vaccine!). This is how the vaccine industry has been rolling since its inception. Trick the people using lies.

    I guess Jonas and Darrell let the CDC LIES cat out of the bag when they publicly announced:
    1976 Dr. Jonas Salk, creator of the polio vaccine, says that analysis indicates that the live virus vaccine in use since the 1960’s is the principle, if not sole cause of all polio cases since 1961.
    1977 (March) Jonas and Darrell Salk warn live virus vaccines produce the same disease.
    Wonder if they were found floating in a river afterwards. I’m sure the sheeple were too hypnotized watching the NEW Tel-LIE-Vision to catch their announcement on the fraudulent polio vaccine. Wake the flock up!

  • guest

    Polio has been given a lot of name. Here are the know ones:

    In 1958, the CDC formally adopted the “Best available paralytic poliomyelitis case count” or BAPPCC:
    “Cases must be clinically and epidemiologically compatible with poliomyelitis, must have resulted in paralysis, and must have a residual neurological deficit 60 days after onset of initial symptoms. .. the BAPPCC does not include cases of nonparalytic poliomyelitis, of those in which paralysis is more transient. The original purpose of developing these criteria was to omit cases possibly due to enteroviruses other than polioviruses.” People who showed polio like symptoms that previously would have been diagnosed as Polio were now being diagnosed as:

    acute flaccid paralysis (AFP),
    Transverse Myelitis,

    Viral or aseptic meningitis, Guillaine Barre Syndrome (GBS), Chinese Paralytic syndrome, CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME, epidemic cholera, cholera morbus,
    spinal meningitis, spinal apoplexy, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, famine fever,
    worm fever, bilious remittent fever, ergotism, ME, post-polio syndrome,
    Synonyms for
    GBS].

    Prior to the failure of the vaccine and the name changes, a person was diagnosed as having Polio if they experienced paralysis for 24 hours.

  • Donald Monty

    So when cases of autism increase due to relaxed diagnostic criteria it’s an epidemic, but when cases of polio decrease due to more stringent diagnostic criteria it’s a global conspiracy? Something like that?

  • guest

    Nope!

  • guest

    Interesting flyer I saved a few years back when I was researching the Polio vaccine:
    http://www.vaclib(dot)org/books/archive2/polio/murder.pdf.

    There were a lot of states that didn’t want the vaccine and countries outside of the US didn’t want it either.

  • How beyond twisted can your comparisons actually get; and in the formation of your complete denial of reality, and of the vaccine truth?

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign
    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

  • Donald Monty

    Why aren’t there polio cases in the Americas anymore, Lowell?

  • guest

    There are Polio cases! It’s just not called Polio. Two primary reasons:
    1. Career Suicide
    2. MONEY. Millions were invested in the Polio vaccine development and distribution and millions were made. One investor, Dr. Alton Oschner was so heavily financially and emotionally invested in the Polio Vaccine when it proved to have zero effectiveness and states were not ordering it and those that did were not using it, he initiated a PR stunt to help boost the uptake of the polio vaccine in New Orleans at the university he was associated with. He vaccinated his two grandchildren with the polio vaccine in front of TV cameras. His young grandson died within a couple of weeks and his granddaughter became paralyzed temporarily. https://news.google(dot)com/newspapers?nid=1955&dat=19550505&id=GwcrAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TJgFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2043,2589024&hl=en

    Why don’t Doctors call a disease that the government & vaccine makers have spend 6 decades manipulating the population through a massive PR campaign, into believing that ONE vaccine eliminated the scrounge of the world from disease and disaster? Why don’t Doctors diagnosis a disease that is said to be eradicated despite the confession of Jonas Salk that the vaccine was the sole cause of Polio is the World?

    “In 1976, Dr. Jonas Salk, creator of the killed-virus vaccine used in the 1950s, testified that the live-virus vaccine (used almost exclusively in the U.S. from the early 1960s to 2000) was the “principal if not sole cause” of all reported polio cases in the U.S. since 1961. (The virus remains in the throat for one to two weeks and in the feces for up to two months. Thus, vaccine recipients are at risk, and can potentially spread the disease, as long as fecal excretion of the virus continues. In 1992, the Federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published an admission that the live-virus vaccine had become the dominant cause of polio in the United States. In fact, according to CDC figures, every case of polio in the U.S. since 1979 was caused by the oral polio vaccine. Authorities claim the vaccine was responsible for about eight cases of polio every year. However, an independent study that analyzed the government’s own vaccine database during a recent period of less than five years uncovered 13,641 reports of adverse events following use of the oral polio vaccine. These reports included 6,364 emergency room visits and 540 deaths (Figure 3) http://vaxtruth(dot)org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Figure-3-Polio.jpg. Public outrage at these tragedies became the impetus for removing the oral polio vaccine from immunization schedules. Sources
    -Strebel PM., et al. Epidemiology of poliomyletis in U.S. one decade after the last reported case of indigenous wild virus associated disease, Clinical Infectious Diseases CDC, February 1992:568 79
    – Washington Post, September 24, 1976.
    – American Academy of Pediatrics, Report of the Committee on Infectious Diseases: 1986 (Elk Grove Village, Illinois: AAP):284–5.
    -Institute of Medicine. An evaluation of poliomyelitis vaccine policy options. IOM Publication 88-04 (Washington DC: National Academy of Sciences, 1988).
    -Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), Rockville, MD.
    -IOS. The Polio vaccine coverup COPV Vaccine Report: Document #14. http://www.ios(dot)com/~w1066/poliov6.html

    Money, Control, Power, Ego, Legacies, Eugenics in a syringe, loss of Career and the list goes on why the myth of not only vaccines continues to be pushed, but many pharmaceuticals continue to be pushed as wonder drugs. You need to sell a disease before you can sell a cure. This is what keeps the myths of effectiveness and eradication into play. Why? Read what was discussed at the 91st Congress Hearing of July 1969: http://www.goodnewsaboutgod(dot)com/studies/political/newworld_order/ebola_scare.htm. Scroll down to the bottom of the page to review document.

    Vaccines are the weapons of choice of governments because they have conned so many people into believing in them despite the abysmal records of effectiveness and the records of disease and deaths that are a manifestation

    Polio names:
    In 1958, the CDC formally adopted the “Best available paralytic poliomyelitis case count” or BAPPCC:
    “Cases must be clinically and epidemiologically compatible with poliomyelitis,must have resulted in paralysis, and must have a residual neurological deficit 60 days after onset of initial symptoms. .. the BAPPCC does not
    include cases of nonparalytic poliomyelitis, of those in which paralysis is more transient. The original purpose of developing these criteria was to omit cases possibly due to enteroviruses other than polioviruses.” People who showed polio like symptoms that previously would have been diagnosed as Polio were now being diagnosed as:
    acute flaccid paralysis (AFP), Transverse Myelitis, Viral
    or aseptic meningitis, Guillaine Barre Syndrome (GBS), Chinese Paralytic syndrome, CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME, epidemic cholera, cholera morbus,
    spinal meningitis, spinal apoplexy, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, famine fever, worm fever, bilious remittent fever, ergotism, ME, post-polio syndrome. All are clinically indistinguishable from Poliomyelitis.

    -Polio is not a specific symptom but a combination of symptoms.

    Another interesting fact: the first polio vaccine was actually made from the feces of 3 children who had completely recovered from Polio because a live virus could not be found. 98% of people who contracted Polio didn’t know they had it until it showed up in lab test because they were asymptomatic. 1% experienced symptoms that included paralysis, specifically in the limb the vaccine was given in but within 18-24 months these people completely recovered. Only 1% suffered permanent paralysis.

    Smoke, Mirrors, and the “Disappearance” Of Polio;
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil(dot)org/2011/11/17/smoke-mirrors-and-the-disappearance-of-polio/. Lots of sources.

  • Donald Monty

    If there is polio in the Americas, but it’s not called polio, what is it called?

  • Capt Ron

    Muscular dystrophy is decidedly genetic in origin, not viral.

  • Polio was already on the decline and the vaccines had nothing to do with its eventual disappearance. Radically changing the definition and diagnosis of polio right after the vaccine was in use, only artificially sped up that process. Their was large scale removal of tonsils in that day which made the population more susceptible to severe cases of polio, and as well their was large scale spraying of DDT; which being a neurological poison, more easily allowed polio to gain entry and access, neurologically. As well as soon as DDT spraying was banned, polio cases decreased dramatically; and when for a period it was reinstated, then there was seen what they thought was post polio syndrome.

    The Present Status of Polio Vaccines

    (Document written in the 1950’s) Clearly and obviously the change in polio diagnosis and re-definition right after the vaccine was in use, significantly reduced the polio case numbers, and not the polio vaccine.
    http://www.greatmothersquestioningvaccines.com/uploads/2/8/8/8/2888885/ratner_1960.pdf

    The polio vaccine: a critical assessment of its arcane history, efficacy, and long-term health-related consequences http://www.thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf

    HISTORICAL MANIPULATION, SMALLPOX, AND POLIO
    http://www.vaccinesuncensored.org/history.php

    The real story of the covered up failure of the small pox vaccine.
    History Repeats Itself: Lessons Vaccinators Refuse to Learn, by Jennifer Craig, PhD
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/04/17/history-repeats-itself-lessons-the-vaccinationists-refuse-to-learn-by-jennifer-craig-phd/

    Smoke, Mirrors, and the “Disappearance” Of Polio, by Suzanne Humphries, MD
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2011/11/17/smoke-mirrors-and-the-disappearance-of-polio/
    The whole situation has clearly been nothing but a corrupt lie.

    Polio Vaccine – Page 1
    http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/polio.htm

    Polio Vaccine – Page 2
    http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/polio2.htm

    Polio Vaccine – Page 3
    http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/polio3.htm

  • Donald Monty

    I know you didn’t write any of that, but U.S. tonsillectomy rates didn’t decline until the 1970s, and DDT wasn’t banned in the U.S. until 1972. Then of course there’s the rest of the world-only Nigeria, Afghanistan and Pakistan still have endemic polio.

  • guest

    You’re funny. Thanks for the chuckle. Please continue to be AWESOME!!!!!

    Read the comments currently posted. I understand you’d love to engage in a time suck, a troll tactic, but not interested. However, there are documented Polio cases in the US that the media hasn’t reported on. I wonder why (extreme sarcasm). Ck pubmed and and the CDC’s National Vital Statics Reports. If you want to find the age, date, race and location of the individual who experienced a bout with Polio but you’re going need to read the text, not the categories and read it year by year. Here’s the link. http://www.cdc(dot)gov/nchs/products/nvsr.htm. This link won’t link you to the 1940’s on page but it’ll get you started. Hint—look up Polio or Poliomyelitis.

    As the Buddhist say; There’s merit in the work!

  • Donald Monty

    You didn’t answer the question.

  • Capt Ron

    Twisted comparisons? I see it as a quite valid bio-statistical and epidemiological analysis.

  • Aseptic meningitis, muscular dystrophy, Guillain Barre syndrome, ME-transverse Myelitis, Accute Flaccid Paralysis….

  • But the point is that everything with remotely similar symptoms was called “polio” before the vaccine, and then after the vaccine they classified it as anything else.

  • Donald Monty

    All subtypes of polio can be identified with real-time PCR on stool, blood, spinal fluid or even environmental specimens. It’s done all over the world.

  • SORRY, IN THE VACCINE DEBATE, THE ‘EXPERTS’ ARE THE HISTORIANS

    Do you want to know who are the real experts in the debate on vaccine safety and efficacy? No, it’s not the scientists. Nope, it’s not the medical researchers. Nah, not the doctors. It’s the historians — those who know history and understand the lessons of history, and argue passionately against mindlessly repeating the mistakes of the past — those who do not have financial interests, conflicts of interest, or personal agendas.

    Those who understand the human toll of the DDT (Dichloro-diphenyl-trichloroethane) fumigations during 1946-1972. Those who understand the human tragedy of DES (Diethylstilbestrol) given to pregnant women during 1938-1971. Those who understand the human horror of using Thalidomide to alleviate morning sickness in pregnant women beginning in 1957. Those who understand the countless and ongoing recalls of prescription drugs such as Vioxx that kill or maim hundreds of thousands of patients.

    And finally, those who understand that the so-called “experts” in whom we’re supposed to confide and trust have consistently gotten their wonderful “science” dead wrong. Let me give you a short history lesson.

    Beginning in 1946, the US government conducted a nationwide mass fumigation campaign using the extremely toxic chemical DDT. The goal was to exterminate mosquitoes, which were believed to be spreading polio. As the DDT campaign proceeded, the incidence of polio began to noticeably rise. DDTfumigation in the US reached its peak in 1951. Polio reached its peak in 1952, with nearly 58,000 reported cases, in which 3,145 people died and 21,269 were left with disabling paralysis. In 1952, the DDT fumigations were subsiding. In 1953, polio cases were also subsiding at about the same rate. By 1953, the number of polio cases had dropped by nearly 40%.

    During the 30 years before it was banned in 1972, a total of approximately 1,350,000,000 pounds of DDT was used in the US.

    In 1954, medical researcher and virologist Jonas Salk came up with his inactivated injectable polio vaccine. That same year, the government redefinedpolio. According to Dr. Bernard Greenberg, head of the Department of Biostatistics of the University of North Carolina School of Public Health:

    In order to qualify for classification as paralytic poliomyelitis, the patient had to exhibit paralytic symptoms for at least 60 days after the onset of the disease. Prior to 1954, the patient had to exhibit paralytic symptoms for only 24 hours. Laboratory confirmation and the presence of residual paralysis were not required. After 1954, residual paralysis was determined 10 to 20 days and again 50 to 70 days after the onset of the disease. This change in definition meant that in 1955 we started reporting a new disease, namely, paralytic poliomyelitis with a longer lasting paralysis.

    In other words, under the new definition of polio, thousands of cases which would have previously been counted as polio would no longer be counted aspolio. The change in the definition laid the groundwork for creating the impression that the Salk vaccine was effective. It was kind of like a golfer being given a stroke handicap, or when you spot someone points in a basketball game.

    ————

    So in summary, the US government decided to try and wipe out the scourge of polio by fumigating the country with more than one billion pounds of DDT, which ended up actually causing the polio epidemic of the 1940s and 1950s. Hundreds of thousands of people died or suffered greatly. But the government misdiagnosed the cause of the epidemic, and so it moved to vaccinate nearly two-thirds of the population — about a hundred million people — and many more around the world with vaccines that actually caused paralysis in tens of thousands of people and were contaminated with a wild monkey virus found to produce cancer.

    We may never know for sure whether SV40 is one of the main contributors to the steady rise in cancer rates in the US during the past half century. But you have to wonder. If so, it would be a tragedy of historic proportions. Not only because of the human toll taken by the disease, but because it would all have been so unnecessary had the government opted against poisoning the country with DDT in the first place. One bad decision led to another bad decision, and on and on. It’s as if government officials and bureaucrats have this special talent for being unable to see the forest for the trees. And we the people — the trusting people — always seem to be the ones who pay for it.

    Read more:
    https://idsent.wordpress.com/2015/03/15/sorry-in-the-vaccine-debate-the-experts-are-the-historians/

    The Poison Cause of Poliomyelitis And Obstructions To Its Investigation
    http://www.whale.to/a/scobey2.html#82

    Polio and DDT
    http://www.whale.to/vaccine/polio_ddt_h.html

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign, (and historical failures of the past small pox vaccine campaign)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

  • Autism cases clearly did not increase due to any relaxed diagnostic criteria. 1 in 10,000 cases does not become 1 in 68, by just changing or so called relaxing the diagnosis criteria.

    Cases of polio clearly did decrease due to radically changed and more stringent diagnostic criteria.

    If you can not see these issues as clearly being facts and reality; then you obviously have zero interest in the truth, and again only an interest in the continued promotion of your own complete denial.

  • And what are the symptoms of those so called subtypes? All of it is one and the same thing, and with the exact same symptoms of and as polio? And if 100 doctors all looked at each and the same cases of these subtypes in a human being, they would all diagnose it as the same thing, and that being polio, and nothing else? Correct? And is that what you are claiming?

  • Donald Monty

    The point is doctors can easily diagnose or exclude any subtype of polio with PCR. There hasn’t been an endemic case of paralytic polio in the U.S. since 1979.

  • Donald Monty

    And now you’re copying and pasting the same argument from a different unreferenced source. Impressive.

  • Donald Monty

    If you say so, it must be true, right? That’s great! And Lowell PLEASE STOP BUTCHERING SEMICOLONS. Thank you.

  • EXACTLY. Prior to introducing the vaccine, anything with these symptoms is labeled polio. Once the vaccine is introduced, they run tests before labeling anything polio. Voila, instant nosedive of polio cases in that country. And those cases that are actually caused by the vaccine (in the case of oral OPV, which does sometimes cause paralytic polio), those are not labeled polio but are labeled vaccine-derived poliovirus (VDPV) and are separate from the counts.

  • Donald Monty

    They started using the same diagnostic criteria used during the field trials of Salk’s vaccine, which were more accurate. When you use more accurate screening for any disease the numbers go down. But not to zero. They wiped out endemic polio in the U.S. by 1979.

  • Do some actual independent research and as well be willing to accept it, and you will clearly realize it is true. I will use any form of whatever punctuation I want use, and anywhere I want to use it. So what you are telling me then is that your primary concern and focuses here only regards the use of punctuation, and that rather than any honest and diligent focus on the truth and reality of vaccine safety. How pathetic and ridiculous.

  • What a crock and a load of denial; and you actually believe that? Go ahead and provide the evidence for your claim that the said change in diagnosis criteria was directly connected to the criteria used in Salk’s vaccine field trials.

  • And now even http://www2.epa.gov/, is in your view, not a referenced source? As to the real historical truth, do you actually think that people just somehow made it all up; and that it never happened? And yet you are willing to simply rely on zero science, and on the principals of correlation equals causation. I see,

  • Donald Monty

    Provide evidence that it wasn’t. You’re the one claiming it was a conspiracy.

  • Donald Monty

    So you linked to the EPA home page?

  • Donald Monty

    http://www.vaccination-information-portal.com/wp-content/uploads/participants-database/ratner_1960.pdf
    Look on page 88 in the right column. “In 1955 the criteria were changed to conform more closely to the definition used in the 1954 field trials…”
    Kaboom.

  • Al Mather

    Nice diversion ..but you are trying to deflect .

  • Capt Ron

    I wish I could find the very interesting statistical graph I saw a while back – it’s related to your comment. It showed, over time, the rise in “Autism” diagnoses along with the corresponding DROP in “Retarded” diagnoses. Both relaxed and cross-over diagnostic transitions have occurred.

  • Capt Ron

    Also note that “Whale.to” is used as a reference! If you have a real science or healthcare background, it’s LOL entertainment to browse through the inanities of that web site!

  • Capt Ron

    Mr. Hubbs… I know you LOVE cut & paste (especially from dubious sources) so I’ll try a few from a highly regarded source related to your hypothesis that autism rates are skyrocketing.

    Here’s a very recent (Feb. 2015) in depth analysis utilizing robust statistical methodology published by the Cambridge University Press (you won’t find this in Whale.to!):

    Paper: The epidemiology and global burden of autism spectrum disorders

    http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=9495906

    “In 2010 there were an estimated 52 million cases of ASDs, equating to a prevalence of 7.6 per 1000 or one in 132 persons. After accounting for methodological variations, there was no clear evidence of a change in prevalence for autistic disorder or other ASDs between 1990 and 2010. Worldwide, there was little regional variation in the prevalence of ASDs.

    and… Their comments about dealing with problematic differing data source:

    “Our study aimed to overcome these limitations by capturing prevalence data from a range of sources that used comprehensive case-finding strategies and by using covariates to adjust for sources of systematic bias. After adjusting for variable study methodology, our models show that the prevalence of ASDs seems to have remained relatively stable over the past 20 years.”

    The entire paper is available for review there, I look forward to your astute critique of the study design, statically methodology and conclusions.

  • guest

    The question has been answered Donnie. All you need to do is read all the comments on this thread. You’re tactic’s not working. You’ve used it before. Time to move on. You’ve been exposed.

  • guest

    Whale is not a scientific website. Shows all you’ve done is read the propaganda that someone else wrote about it. It has resources on hundreds of topics and it has full downloads of rare and out of print books. It’s basically an online library-not just a site that houses health information.

  • guest

    Another flyer I found that demonstrates that the country at the time the Salk vaccine was being given, was not supportive of it.
    http://www.vaclib(dot)org/books/archive2/polio/challenge.pdf

  • Julia McCullough Perreman

    Enterovirus D68 for one…The list is long; Transverse Myelitis, Some cases of GBS, meningitis, Coxsakie infections, there are several enteroviruses that would have been considered “polio” pre-reclassification.

  • Julia McCullough Perreman

    The point is, pre-vaccine, that technology did not exist and “Polio” was diagnosed based upon a physician’s judgement call. Sure, now we can tease out the data-if someone pays for it, which isn’t happening in the nations where “Polio” is decreasing but “Acute Flacid Paralysis” is increasing. Bottom line, in the US, when the CDC claimed the vaccine erradicated “‘Polio”, the numbers should have been adjusted for the reclassification. That would have given a better assessment of effective the vaccination program was.

  • Donald Monty

    Any neurologic disease that causes paralysis could have been confused with polio in the past. The question was where is the polio now.

  • Donald Monty

    Acute flaccid paralysis has multiple causes, only one of which is polio, which can easily be excluded with PCR testing. So again, where did all the polio go? http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/828839#vp_1

  • Donald Monty

    My tactic is to make you prove your point. Your tactic is to dodge.

  • eggman2

    They lie, they cheat, they obstruct justice, they murder, they hide beneficial information, and on and on. Nothing has been any different for the medical mafia and the junk medicine robber barons since the first Mafioso junk medicine robber baron J D.Rockefeller walked into his first medical school and told them that he would buy them if they would shut up their mouth about natural medicine and embraced his petrochemical medicine, on which he was putting a lot of money into.

  • eggman2

    You are a dubious source.

  • eggman2

    You do great in gramar but flunked logic.

  • eggman2

    Stupid people, like you, overlook the fact that a doctor ,mentioned in this article, cured polio with vitamin C injections.

    Nutrition was developing around the same time as the polio vaccine. People were so ignorant of nutrition–even up to the 60’s–or even today–give me a break with all the stupid vaccine freaks. That is why Roosevelt had polio. And his wife Eleanor was so ignorant about nutrition, that one of her babies was born weighing 12 pounds. The normal weight of a well nourished woman’s newborn baby should be around 7 pounds. Because they are supposed to be born small and get big thereafter with the breast milk, like all animals. It is not like some stupid acquaintance of mine said that they have to pass a watermelon.

    Nutrition should account for the false claim that VACCINES have eliminated illnesses.

  • Donald Monty

    Vitamin C cures scurvy-not polio.

  • If you think mental retardation is the same thing as the regressive autism that is developed shortly after a load of vaccines, then you are obviously beyond misinformed on the issue. I thought they have tried to claim that it was all better diagnosis? That didn’t actually fly with any form of real knowledge on the issue, and nor rational thinking. And so now you claim they are blaming the major increase in autism cases, on relaxed and cross-over diagnostic transitions? Really, and how much further into entirely false reasons, excuses, and as well obvious denial, can it get?

  • An estimated 46 653 cases of acute flaccid paralysis exist in India alone, which increased directly in proportion to the increased use of oral polio vaccines pushed and used in that country. If you think that AFP being focused on as caused by the polio in itself is the issue, then you need a serious re-education.

    J Paediatr Child Health. 2009 Jul-Aug;45(7-8):409-13. doi: 10.1111/j.1440-1754.2009.01529.x. Epub 2009 Jul 20.
    Non-polio enteroviruses in acute flaccid paralysis children of India: vital assessment before polio eradication.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19712176

    Indian J Med Ethics. 2012 Apr-Jun;9(2):114-7.
    Polio programme: let us declare victory and move on.

    Vashisht N, Puliyel J.

    Source: Department of Paediatrics, St Stephens Hospital, Delhi 110054, India.

    Abstract

    It was hoped that following polio eradication, immunisation could be stopped. However the synthesis of polio virus in 2002, made eradication impossible. It is argued that getting poor countries to expend their scarce resources on an impossible dream over the last 10 years was unethical. Furthermore, while India has been polio-free for a year, there has been a huge increase in non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP). In 2011, there were an extra 47,500 new cases of NPAFP. Clinically indistinguishable from polio paralysis but twice as deadly, the incidence of NPAFP was directly proportional to doses of oral polio received. Though this data was collected within the polio surveillance system, it was not investigated. The principle of primum-non-nocere was violated. The authors suggest that the huge bill of US$ 8 billion spent on the programme, is a small sum to pay if the world learns to be wary of such vertical programmes in the future.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22591873

    Polio programme: let us declare victory and move on
    Neetu Vashisht, Jacob Puliye
    http://216.12.194.36/~ijmein/index.php/ijme/article/view/110/1065

    India: Paralysis cases soar after oral polio vaccine introduced
    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/323371#ixzz2s7kW4mSr

    51 035 cases of AFP appear in this document (p 578) for India in 2011, and the in 2011. The figure of 86 638 cases of AFP was listed as globally.
    http://www.who.int/wer/wer8650.pdf

    VRM: The Re-emergence of Polio in The Third World (compliments of the World Health Organization &
    Bill Gates)
    http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/?p=10091

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign (more information here)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

  • If you had actually looked, in regard to the first of four references you were given in regard to the use of DDT at that time, a large part of the data, comes from 2epa.gov. You called that an unreferenced source.

  • The only thing that is laughable is your ability to only throw repeated false discreditation at every last source used here; and with as well nothing but your repeated failure to ever actually address any of the information provided, directly.

  • Obviously then you do not even understand as much as the basic meanings and nor the concept of the terms, prove, and dodge.

  • Really? And when and how often have they ever used PCR? How often as well have they ever used it in such as India, in the current time? Can, and do; are actually two different terms of speaking.

  • Also on that page 88 is much more information that you have deliberately ignored. So you think you can use one small segment of information, and then forget the rest of it has having any significance? That is the same The Present Status of Polio Vaccines document that I gave and referenced to you earlier, in this link. And so you continue to ignore that the major in polio diagnosis criteria, actually had a major impact on the reduction of polio numbers, and shortly after the polio vaccine was in use? It would seem to me that the reason for the change in criteria, would actually be irrelevant in the bigger picture of questioning just how much impact that change had in the said reduction of polio numbers.

    http://www.greatmothersquestioningvaccines.com/uploads/2/8/8/8/2888885/ratner_1960.pdf

    The Present Status of Polio Vaccines

    Excerpts:

    A full discussion of both these issues can be found in the Polio section of my book The Vaccine Guide. The criteria for diagnosing polio did change when the vaccine was introduced in the 1950s and this change in diagnosis apparently reduced the statistic for the number of polio cases dramatically. Monkey kidney cells are used to produce the oral vaccine and controversy rages about the contamination of OPV with monkey viruses. For a complete review of these issues, see the book. Here is one quote from the book. Dr. Bernard Greenberg, a biostatistics expert, was chairman of the Committee on Evaluation and Standards of the American Public Health Association during the 1950s. He testified at a panel discussion that was used as evidence for the congressional hearings on polio vaccine in 1962. During these hearings he elaborated on the problems associated with polio statistics and disputed claims for the vaccines effectiveness. He attributed the dramatic decline in polio cases to a change in reporting practices by physicians. Less cases were identified as polio after the vaccination for very specific reasons. Prior to 1954 any physician who reported paralytic poliomyelitis was doing his patient a service by way of subsidizing the cost of hospitalization and was being community-minded in reporting a communicable disease. The criterion of diagnosis at that time in most health departments followed the World Health Organization definition: Spinal paralytic poliomyelitis: signs and symptoms of nonparalytic poliomyelitis with the addition of partial or complete paralysis of one or more muscle groups, detected on two examinations at least 24 hours apart. Note that two examinations at least 24 hours apart was all that was required. Laboratory confirmation and presence of residual paralysis was not required. In 1955 the criteria were changed to conform more closely to the definition used in the 1954 field trials: residual paralysis was determined 10 to 20 days after onset of illness and again 50 to 70 days after onset…. This change in definition meant that in 1955 we started reporting a new disease, namely, paralytic poliomyelitis with a longer-lasting paralysis. Furthermore, diagnostic procedures have continued to be refined. Coxsackie virus infections and aseptic meningitis have been distinguished from paralytic poliomyelitis. Prior to 1954 large numbers of these cases undoubtedly were mislabeled as paralytic poliomyelitis. Thus, simply by changes in diagnostic criteria, the number of paralytic cases was predetermined to decrease in 1955-1957, whether or not any vaccine was used. Read more by use of the below link:

    The Present Status of Polio Vaccines (Document written in the 1950’s) Clearly and obviously the change in polio diagnosis and re-definition right after the vaccine was in use, significantly reduced the polio case numbers, and not the polio vaccine.
    http://www.greatmothersquestioningvaccines.com/uploads/2/8/8/8/2888885/ratner_1960.pdf

    More, on the use of DDT issue, and take a look at the graphs!

    Images Of Poliomyelitis
    A Critique Of Scientific Literature
    Pesticides And Polio
    http://www.wellwithin1.com/overview.htm

    http://www.wellwithin1.com/PolioWest.htm

    Polio in the United States
    Graphic Timeline: U.S. 1870-1998
    http://www.wellwithin1.com/pol_all.htm

    Pesticide Introductions and Poliomyelitis
    http://www.wellwithin1.com/pestintr.htm

  • This study is very easily recognized as junk science at its finest. A contorted, distorted, and twisted spinning of mathematical numbers and epidemiology. And it is just an abstract without the full study, unless you pay $45 for it. And where is their study on the US numbers of autism?

    And with the US being the most highly vaccinated country in the world, you would actually be so naive as to think that world wide figures are a far comparison and evidence of no existing autism diagnosis increase? The study as well flies in the face of all data and every other study out there that clearly shows a major increase in autism numbers between 2090 and 2010.This study as well flies in the face of even the CDC data, which does show those significant increases in the rates of autism diagnosis in the US and as well globally. A finding of as much as a 78% increase between the years 2002 to 2012; and in the US, is not a significant increase?

    And you are going to tell me that during a period of time in the US where the numbers of vaccines and doses were essentially quadrupled in number; that there was no evidence of an autism increase in numbers? Really?

    Prevalence of Autism Spectrum Disorder Among Children Aged 8 Years — Autism and Developmental Disabilities Monitoring Network, 11 Sites, United States, 2010
    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6302a1.htm
    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6103a1.htm

    Data & Statistics
    http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html

    And why would Psychological Medicine even be involved in such a study? Like I said, if you can not see and realize how flawed this study actually is that you referenced to; then you aren’t even looking. Read it.

    Method A systematic review was conducted for epidemiological data (prevalence, incidence, remission and mortality risk) of autistic disorder and other ASDs. Data were pooled using a Bayesian meta-regression approach while adjusting for between-study variance to derive prevalence models. Burden was calculated in terms of years lived with disability (YLDs) and disability-adjusted life-years (DALYs), which are reported here by world region for 1990 and 2010.

    Results In 2010 there were an estimated 52 million cases of ASDs, equating to a prevalence of 7.6 per 1000 or one in 132 persons. After accounting for methodological variations, there was no clear evidence of a change in prevalence for autistic disorder or other ASDs between 1990 and 2010. Worldwide, there was little regional variation in the prevalence of ASDs. Globally, autistic disorders accounted for more than 58 DALYs per 100 000 population and other ASDs accounted for 53 DALYs per 100 000.

  • Donald Monty

    The rise in reported non-polio AFP cases in India by most experts is felt due to increased screening. No AFP due to polio has been found in India since 2011. Whether OPV can cause non-polio AFP is not known. http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2015/06/26/indias-victory-over-polio-has-an-unexpected-consequence/

  • Donald Monty

    You asked for proof that changes in the diagnostic criteria for polio were directly connected to the criteria used in the Salk vaccine field trials. I provided it. You had said it was “a crock and a load of denial”. Remember that, Lowell? Now that you’ve been proven wrong, you counter that the reason for the changes is irrelevant? The entire premise of this asinine article was that the change in criteria was an arbitrary, deceptive act by the evil CDC.

  • Do you actually know how to do any independent and unbiased research? Did you know as well that falsely accused shaken baby syndrome and as well SIDS is connected to vaccine induced vitamin C deficient, scurvy?

    The Treatment of Poliomyelitis and Other Virus Diseases with Vitamin C
    Fred R. Klenner, M.D., Reidsville, North Carolina
    http://www.nutri.com/49/

    Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, August 7, 2013
    Vitamin C and Polio – The Forgotten Research of Claus W. Jungeblut, M.D.
    http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v09n16.shtml

    Massive Doses of Vitamin C and the Virus Diseases
    Fred R. Klenner, M.D., Reidsville, North Carolina
    http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/195x/klenner-fr-southern_med_surg-1951-v103-n4-p101.htm

    Vitamin C and polio
    http://www.sott.net/article/264766-Vitamin-C-and-polio

    The Origin of the 42-Year Stonewall of Vitamin C
    http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/199x/landwehr-r-j_orthomol_med-1991-v6-n2-p99.htm

    VITAMIN C HAS BEEN KNOWN TO FIGHT 30 MAJOR DISEASES … FOR OVER 50 YEARS
    http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v02n02.shtml

    An historical compendium of 20th-Century medical & scientific literature attesting to the efficacy of Ascorbate

    (Ascorbic Acid, Cevitamic Acid, Sodium Ascorbate etc. a.k.a. “Vitamin C”) in the treatment and prevention of human and animal illnesses and diseases.

    http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/

    LIPOSOMAL ENCAPSULATED VITAMIN C
    http://www.vacfacts.info/anti-viral—liposomal-encapsulated-vitamin-c.html

    Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS): Major Causes are Known but Ignored
    http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/sudden-infant-death-syndrome-sids-major-causes-are-known-but-ignored/

    Falsely Accused Shaken Baby Syndrome, (and vaccine caused SIDS)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/falsely-accused-shaken-baby-syndrome.html

  • Most experts? You mean the people in the article who so stated, disputed the research by Dr. Jacob Puliye, but never actually offered an alternative explanation? People, (vaccine pushers) that have everything to lose if the truth be realized and known? You clearly have proven to be good at pulling one small segment from an article, and while ignoring the rest of what is stated in the article.

    That article as well underestimates the true number of cases of AFP in India by nearly 30,000 cases, that have been know to have been found.

    Article excerpt: [Research by Dr. Jacob Puliyel from St. Stephen’s Hospital in Delhi and two colleagues shows a positive correlation between the number of doses of polio vaccine given to a child on average in a state and the number of reported cases of AFP that turn out not to be caused by polio.

    In Uttar Pradesh and Bihar, non-polio AFP cases are higher than in Kerala and Goa, where fewer doses of oral vaccine are administered per child each year, even after factoring in other differences between the states.

    “We speculate that repeatedly giving polio virus vaccine is probably causing a strange shift… and there is some other polio-like disease which is beginning to exist,” Dr. Puliyel said in a phone interview.

    This needs further studying, he added. Dr. Puliyel’s findings are however disputed as “misguided” and “wrong” by Naveen Thacker, who was part of the team that led India’s polio eradication campaign and is president-elect of the Asia Pacific Pediatric Association]. (End of excerpt)

    Of course any form of Pediatrics in the world that is pushing those vaccines, is going to DENY any harm done. No proof ever. The vaccine contamination in that live oral vaccine obviously contains those enteroviruses, and depending on the level of sanitation present in the area, or the lack of; ends up to be the factor in the outcome of how many cases of AFP as a result end up occurring. That would be the most obvious and logical explanation.

  • Again, do you see what you do? You can not even as much as quote and refer to your own rely posts correctly. To your own self conceived and twisted benefit, you take one sentence from it, and forget the rest of what you stated. First, that said and majorly changed diagnosis criteria for and as to the determination of polio, by any means you look at it, was clearly NOT more accurate in the determination of the numbers of existing cases of polio.

    To state and claim to that they used more accurate criteria, is as well clearly an unproven statement. How can you state as well that to use more accurate screening for any disease, means that the numbers go down? That is not true at all because they could just as easily go up, depending on what is being diagnosed. You stated that such a change would make the numbers go down but not to zero. Why is that? If polio numbers were already in significant decline prior to the vaccine availability, and you create a majorly false reduction in those numbers, and while polio continues to decline on its own, over time that number surely could go to zero. And do not conveniently as well forget about the additional DDT information and graphs that I just gave you in the same reply post.

    What they did regarding that change in polio diagnosis criteria, clearly was an obvious, arbitrary, and deceptive act; and in any honest and rational mind, there is no way to deny that

    Quote: [They started using the same diagnostic criteria used during the field trials of Salk’s vaccine, which were more accurate. When you use more accurate screening for any disease the numbers go down. But not to zero. They wiped out endemic polio in the U.S. by 1979.] Unquote.

  • Donald Monty

    Again, it’s unknown whether OPV has anything to do with non-polio AFP.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re repeating nonsense I already disproved.

  • Donald Monty

    How were the revised criteria “clearly NOT more accurate”?

  • Donald Monty

    You just continue to copy/paste multiple links to opinion pieces from junk sites. Post a phase 3 trial showing vitamin C cures polio.

  • So, what you are telling me is that the findings and the successful treatment of polio with vitamin C by such doctors as Fred R. Klenner, M.D., are not enough evidence for you and even after reading the article titled, The Origin of the 42-Year Stonewall of Vitamin C? Instead you ignore any evidence before you and as well the evidence of the cover-up and deliberate ignorance and denial perpetrated by the standard big pharma taught medical model; and demand clinical trials which you know will never be done by any pharmaceutical company, and as there is as well no big money in non patent able products.

    You expect there to be clinical trials that cost millions, on a simply effective vitamin. And would you also tell me that you are actually interested in true health care which is nontoxic, and actually helps the human body heal itself as it was created and designed to do?

    And you would yet as well continue to claim that toxic and clearly contaminated vaccines, (yet today an unresolved problem); are the only means by which to attain any resistance against polio and other vaccinated for pathogens. The SV40 contaminant in the early 60’s polio vaccine as well actually seeded millions of people with the tumor and cancer causing SV40; which was remaining in the vaccine created with and by the use of monkeys. We likely as well now will never be rid of that virus within the human population, as it is being spread by contagious transmission of SV 40 by horizontal infection. (Check out the studies listed with direct links on this below page).

    Scientific proof that the known cancer causing SV40 virus, a previous contaminant in the polio vaccine, is obviously either contagious; or the virus is still in the vaccine/s.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/scientific-proof-that-the-known-cancer-causing-sv40-virus-a-previous-contaminant-in-the-polio-vaccine-is-obviously-either-contagious-or-the-virus-is-still-in-the-vaccines.html

    Quite obviously you have no interest in any form of real health care, and nor actually any reality and truth; but only in the promotion of the continued false vaccine savior propaganda.

  • Use your head, and for once just try and put an end to your persistent no proof existing ever of anything, denial. Clearly there has been no other explanation offered for the existence of those known enteroviruses, and nor for the increase in AFP directly correlating to the number of OPV’s pushed and used in such as India; and nor anywhere else.

    Child’s Mysterious Paralysis Tied to New Virus

    Mysterious cases of paralysis in U.S. children over the last year have researchers searching for the cause of the illness. Now, a new study suggests that a new strain of a poliolike virus may be responsible for some of the cases.

    So far, more than 100 children in 34 states have suddenly developed muscle weakness or paralysis in their arms or legs, a condition known as acute flaccid myelitis, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Previously, researchers linked a virus called enterovirus D68 (EV-D68), which can cause respiratory illness similar to the common cold, with some of these cases.

    Read more:
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/childs-mysterious-paralysis-tied-to-new-virus/ar-AAcFelv

    Vaccination Is The Driving Force Behind The Destructive Evolution of Viruses and Pharmaceutical Companies Know It
    http://preventdisease.com/news/15/050815_Vaccination-Behind-Destructive-Evolution-Viruses-Pharmaceutical-Companies-Know-It.shtml

    The Emerging Risks of Live Virus & Virus Vectored Vaccines: Vaccine Strain Virus Infection, Shedding & Transmission
    http://www.nvic.org/CMSTemplates/NVIC/pdf/Live-Virus-Vaccines-and-Vaccine-Shedding.pdf

    Mounting Evidence Shows Many Vaccines are Ineffective and Contribute to Rise of Outbreaks Caused by Mutated Viruses
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/07/30/whooping-cough-vaccine.aspx

    VRM: The Rise of Mutagenic Viruses
    http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/?p=13124

    Vaccines Are Causing Mutations That May Jeopardize The Health of Future Generations
    http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2014/02/10/vaccines-are-causing-mutations-that-may-jeopardize-the-health-of-future-generations/

  • Again you have missed and intentionally evaded the statements made, and the point that was made, and as well that was just put in front of you. Quite obviously again if you had used your head, and even basic common sense (and again you refused to); you can easily see and realize that such a major change in polio diagnosis criteria, is clearly and obviously not accurate whatsoever. All it was designed to do was artificially reduce the numbers of diagnosed cases of polio; and which it quite effectively did.

    One day you have polio, but the next day if you had received the vaccine, then you just couldn’t have polio. Just like today, if you had the pertussis or measles vaccine and come down with it anyway, you simply could not have either one of them, and you rarely to almost never will be found included in the count of cases.

    The Present Status of Polio Vaccines, Illinois Medical Journal, 1960

    Prior to 1954 any physician who reported paralytic poliomyelitis was doing his patient a service by way of subsidizing the cost of hospitalization and was being community-minded in reporting a communicable disease. The criterion of diagnosis at that time in most health departments followed the World Health Organization definition: Spinal paralytic poliomyelitis: signs and symptoms of nonparalytic poliomyelitis with the addition of partial or complete paralysis of one or more muscle groups, detected on two examinations at least 24 hours apart. Note that two examinations at least 24 hours apart was all that was required. Laboratory confirmation and presence of residual paralysis was not required. In 1955 the criteria were changed to conform more closely to the definition used in the 1954 field trials: residual paralysis was determined 10 to 20 days after onset of illness and again 50 to 70 days after onset…. This change in definition meant that in 1955 we started reporting a new disease, namely, paralytic poliomyelitis with a longer-lasting paralysis.

    Read more:
    http://www.greatmothersquestioningvaccines.com/uploads/2/8/8/8/2888885/ratner_1960.pdf

  • And that again is nothing but another load of entirely lying and delusional, BS.

  • The following is part of the first chapter in “The Drug Story” Chapter One
    by Morris A. Bealle, First printing December 1949

    What Nujol Started

    The Drug Story- A Factological History Of America’s $10,000,000,000 Drug Cartel, Its Methods, Operations, Hidden Ownership, Profits And Terrific Impact On The Health Of The American People.

    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-drug-story—the-history-of-modern-medicine.html

    The False Foundations of Modern Medicine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-foundations-of-modern-medicine.html

    The Real History of Modern Medicine

    The Origins of Medical Industry Corruption
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-real-history-of-modern-medicine.html

    Death By Medicine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/death-by-medicine.html

    Pharmakeia (aka sorceries) of Babylon
    http://www.vacfacts.info/pharmakeia-aka-sorceries-of-babylon.html

  • Donald Monty

    So no, you can’t post a phase 3 trial. And Fred Klenner was a quack. You should read the book “Bitter Blood”.

  • Donald Monty

    So now you’ve saying that other enteroviruses are caused by polio vaccines and there’s no other explanation.

  • Donald Monty

    The field trial criteria were more restrictive to weed out the non-polio cases, Lowell. If in your mind that makes them less accurate I cannot help you.

  • Donald Monty

    I disproved the entire premise of this absurd article, which was that the CDC knew the polio vaccine didn’t work so they manipulated the diagnostic criteria to artificially decrease the number of cases. This magical thinking leads the author to conclude, “the eradication of polio is a total sham”. This article is a total sham.

  • guest

    you potato-I say pa-ta-do. Your question has been answered several times on this comment thread. As you did before on the previous articles you pulled the same tactic, refusing to acknowledge answers provided, you expose yourself as a troll on the other threads as you are doing so now. There are less than 100 comments on this thread. Eliminate yours and the other trolls and there are probably about 50. The answer to your question is in those comments plus more. One or two are mine-which answers your question.

    Your handles must be disappointed because they are not getting their money worth. Or are you one of those paid by the number of comments rather than the quality of the comment.

  • Conveniently more accurate is what you mean, which clearly in the bigger picture did not make it accurate at all, and effectively weeded out thousands of cases of polio, and thus effectively creating a FALSE impression that polio vaccines had actually worked. What do you not yet and refuse to understand about that? Nothing would be enough ever, now would it. How many vaccines have you actually had in the last 5 to 10 years? I bet if we really knew the true answer, that answer is zero. Why as well have you not used a real identity? If you had to actually use a real identity, would you ever reply post with the misguiding and in entirely in denial trash that you have? Not as chance, is the answer, and I already know how it works and always has and will.

  • I of course did not say, and nor state that at all. The explanation is actually very clear. Playing and throwing the missed all the information that was put in front of you ignorance card, simply does not work, here.

    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

  • How about if you started to speak out and stop the vaccine butchering as to their health and of the young women that have been mislead into taking Gardasil, and this is going to get much worse with now the FDA approval of the new Gardasil 9. How about as well speaking out about the deaths that Gardasil has clearly caused? And just like the original Gardasil, Merck got away with using absolutely no true placebo in the determination of systemic comparison effects, and this time being it was already (wrongfully) approved in 2006, they used the current Gardasil as a placebo against the new Gardasil 9; in regard to the comarison of systemic effects. In 2006 they had used as one placebo the aluminum adjuvant, and the second placebo was the HPV virus like particles, in the carrier solution. But yet in that said 2006 clinical trial data that that numbers some over 460 pages, they did use a saline placebo, but only in regard to the injection site comparisons. How much more corrupt can it get.

    “HPV Vaccine Has Done This to My Child”
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/hpv-vaccine-has-done-this-to-my-child/

    Gardasil-The Flagship Example of the Failure of Vaccine Authorities to Regulate and Assure Vaccine Safety
    http://www.vacfacts.info/gardasil-the-flagship-example-of-the-failure-of-vaccine-authorities-to-regulate-and-assure-vaccine-safety.html

  • Donald Monty

    Of course you said it. You just said, “Clearly there has been no other explanation offered for the existence of those known enteroviruses, and nor for the increase in AFP directly correlating to the number of OPV’s pushed and used in such as India; and nor anywhere else.”

  • Donald Monty

    Stop posting nonsense, Lowell. The new criteria weeded out thousands of NON-polio cases, making them more accurate. I know it’s inconvenient for you, because it doesn’t support your conspiracy theory.

  • Donald Monty

    Another dodge.

  • Capt Ron

    My apologies… I forgot that the PC at my professional position allows me to access vastly more high quality research sources without fees than you can. You are at a distinct disadvantage as you must rely on cherry picks and biased misinformation on anti-vax blogs and Whale.to.

    Autism certainly has a behavioral/psychological element, how is it strange to you that the autism frequency research was published in this particular journal? It’s not a Geology journal! And… It’s not a poorly peer reviewed pay-to-publish on-line journal like Tomiljenovic & Shaw always use! Cambridge Press is a first tier publishing company with an exemplary pre-publishing peer review process. Do you really think anomalies in statistical analysis in the autism frequency study would have gotten past them? Valid statistical analysis is the best way to separate fact from fiction and avoid conjecture and bias. With the wide readership of a respected journal, wouldn’t there be outraged comment (other than yours) that the statistical analysis is errant? That’s one of the reasons that scientific papers are published – To encourage the response of the scientific community and stimulate further study. Contrast that with response that Seralini rightly received for the VooDoo statistical analysis presented in his GMO/Glyphosphate rat study!

  • Donald Monty

    Why in the world are you talking about Gardasil? Have you given up defending this article?

  • And you are still stuck in your endless and nothing would ever be enough, and persistent delusions. Nice post, and you couldn’t even bother to link to the said journal?

    I entirely understand why you are angry and in that your mislead big pharma directed education has entirely failed you so many levels. That actually should be very humbling to you, and not simply be the cause of more persistent and in denial, arrogance.

    Does this look like it is all nothing but whale.to? Your continued to be entirely mindless reply comments, do entirely speak volumes in itself.

    VacFacts
    http://www.vacfacts.info/

  • So now you are telling me to read a questionably fiction book, that has nothing to do with the actual subject matters regarding Fred R. Klenner, M.D., and the recorded historic reality of and regarding the truth information as to the curing of polio with vitamin C? LOL.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitter_Blood

    http://www.amazon.com/Bitter-Blood-Southern-Madness-Multiple/dp/0451402103

  • Case in point; and lets get directly to the said basics of the issue. The question obviously and directly being put to you is this. Have you any other explanation for that major increase in AFP numbers, when it is known that they directly increased in parallel to the number of OPV doses pushed and used in India? Yes or no? Do you actually deny that this happened, and as Dr. Jacob Puliye put forth ? Go ahead and present with those answers, now?

  • No it did not, what it in truth and quite obviously weeded out, was real cases of polio and as had been existing. Twist it around all that you want, but the reality of that major polio diagnosis criteria change, clearly eliminated thousands of cases of polio, and thus clearly gave a largely false image of there having been polio vaccine success. Face it.

  • Again, you are clearly either lying and/or quite obviously delusional. You disproved absolutely nothing at all. Face it.

  • The issue of Gardasil is presented to show you just how corrupt the entire vaccine issue is. It also shows you directly how and why the FDA can not ever be trusted to assure and ONLY approve proven to be, safe vaccines. In fact they obviously could care less about vaccine safety; and their ONLY vested interest is in protecting and promoting the profits of the pharmaceutical vaccine makers, and their investing share holders.

  • Donald Monty

    Yes-they’re screening more. I already said that and posted a link for you. There’s over a billion people in India, Lowell.

  • Donald Monty

    Then where’s the polio, Lowell?

  • So you believe that the numbers result Dr Jacob Puliye found, was only due to increased screening? Just like the increased autism numbers going from 1 in 10,00 to now 1 in 68, was all only due to better diagnosis, right? You blame everything and any significant correlations found, all on better diagnosis and increased screening. That is a called a smoke screen of denial.

  • Donald Monty

    You’ve failed, Lowell. The article is rubbish.

  • That answer has already been put in front of you several times. Either you failed to review that information, or you simply refuse to accept the reality of the information. Which is it?

  • Donald Monty

    It got 4 1/2 stars! It’s a really good true-crime book, if you like that sort of thing. Do you like true-crime, Lowell?

  • Obviously, anyone that has read the article and followed this articles reply posting can clearly see it is you that has failed and repeatedly. But just continue on in your persisting denial and in your refusal to face that reality.

  • Donald Monty

    Any time you broaden the definition of a disease and increase screening you’re going to find a lot more of it.

  • Donald Monty

    The last case of endemic polio in the U.S. was in 1979, Lowell. You can’t hide from that fact.

  • So again you fail to present with any answers and information relevant to the subject matters of this article and its reply section.

  • Donald Monty

    “In 1955 the criteria were changed to conform more closely to the definition used in the 1954 field trials…”
    That statement just destroys this article.

  • Donald Monty

    “In 1955 the criteria were changed to conform more closely to the definition used in the 1954 field trials…”
    That’s all it took.

  • But as conveniently and in your denial as you choose to use that excuse; the AFP numbers increased parallel to the numbers of OPV pushed and used. So thus you are telling me that at no time ever are any study evidence numbers significant, and that being any time that, and just because they made an effort to take a much closer look at the numbers. So in the denial of all, this is again smoke screen number, what?

  • ione murphy

    A developing country perspective on vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis.

    John TJ1.

    Author information

    1Kerala State Institute of Virology and Infectious Diseases, Alappuzha, Kerala, India. [email protected]

    Abstract

    When the Expanded Programme on Immunization was established and oral poliovirus vaccine (OPV) was introduced for developing countries to use exclusively, national leaders of public health had no opportunity to make an informed choice between OPV and the inactivated poliovirus vaccine (IPV). Today, as progress is made towards the goal of global eradication of poliomyelitis attributable to wild polioviruses, all developing countries where OPV is used face the risk of vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis (VAPP). Until recently, awareness of VAPP has been poor and quantitative risk analysis scanty but it is now well known that the continued use of OPV perpetuates the risk of VAPP. Discontinuation or declining immunization coverage of OPV will increase the risk of emergence of circulating vaccine-derived polioviruses (cVDPV) that re-acquire wild virus-like properties and may cause outbreaks of polio. To eliminate the risk of cVDPV, either very high immunization coverage must be maintained as long as OPV is in use, or IPV should replace OPV. Stopping OPV without first achieving high immunization coverage with IPV is unwise on account of the possibility of emergence of cVDPV. Increasing numbers of developed nations prefer IPV, and manufacturing capacities have not been scaled up, so its price remains prohibitively high and unaffordable by developing countries, where, in addition, large-scale field experience with IPV is lacking. Under these circumstances, a policy shift to increase the use of IPV in national immunization programmes in developing countries is a necessary first step; once IPV coverage reaches high levels (over 85%), the withdrawal of OPV may begin.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15106301

    Inactivated polio vaccine: time to introduce it in India’s national immunization schedule.

    “..Nevertheless, polio control experts are particularly worried about Vaccine-Derived Poliovirus (VDPV). Global surveillance efforts picked up 430 cases of VDPV from several countries between July 2009 and March 2011. In India, 7 cases of VDPV were reported during the year 2011. As long as OPV is used, virologists say that the world is at risk of VDPV causing polio in unprotected children. Achieving a polio-free world will require the “cessation of all OPV” and with it the elimination of the risk of vaccine-associated paralytic polio (VAPP) or VDPV infections

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22699444

  • So what you are telling me is in that being your original claim, that absolutely nothing has been to this point, and nor would it ever be enough proof and evidence for you, that the polio numbers were ever reduced by the thousands in number, simply through an obvious and major arbitrary change in the diagnosis criteria of polio? And you are telling me that the polio vaccine was never given any false credit for the reduction in polio numbers; simply by a major change in diagnosis criteria shortly after the polio vaccine was developed and in use. I would view that as nothing more than deliberate denial and continued and persistent, willful ignorance

  • That is absolutely, obviously, and clearly irrelevant to the vaccine issues that we are discussing here.

  • Donald Monty

    The AFP numbers also likely increased in parallel with global warming, I-phone and Wifi usage and a million other things-correlation doesn’t equal causation.

  • Donald Monty

    The eradication of polio is irrelevant to vaccine issues? You actually said that?

  • Donald Monty

    So why doesn’t this site change its mission? Instead of trying to bring back global endemic polio, consider fund-raising to help the WHO give only IPV to everyone until polio is eradicated? Then there’d be no need for any polio vaccines at all! It’s a win-win!

  • ione murphy

    Nigeria Sees Polio Outbreak from Mutated Vaccine Virus …
    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/h...

    A mutated virus from the oral vaccine used to prevent the spread of polio in Nigeria has paralyzed at least 124 children in the West African country this year.

    Polio surge in Nigeria after vaccine virus mutates …
    usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/w…

    Aug 14, 2009 · Polio, a dreaded paralyzing disease stamped out in the industrialized world, is spreading in Nigeria despite efforts to stamp it out. And health officials …
    Vaccines Are Causing Mutations That May Jeopardize The …
    preventdisease.com/news/12/071……

    Vaccines Are Causing Mutations That May Jeopardize … escape mutation patterns are replication competent and are shown to be infectious and pathogenic. Polio
    Polio: Mutated virus breaches vaccine protection …
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/...
    Scientists are reporting alarming findings: a mutated polio virus was able to resist vaccine protection.

  • Donald Monty

    I didn’t say the numbers didn’t go down with the stricter criteria. Of course they would. But that had nothing to do with the eradication of polio.

  • Donald Monty

    Ditto.

  • And you should clearly know by now, and as to what you have already had put in front of you here, and repeatedly; that your claims are nothing more than a big pile of refusing to un-brain wash yourself delusions, and that which you refuse to give up on.

    Why are you not also asking instead, why Bill Gates has not done that? It is simply reckless insanity to use any live vaccine and such as the OPV in an undeveloped country. Simply because it sheds the pathogen, and as well any remaining contamination in the vaccines gets shed right along with the so called vaccine antigen. Vaccine contamination remains to be a serious and unresolved problem that they will never resolve and not by any existing nor improved purification step process. Why is that? Because it is impossible to clean up any vaccine, considering the disgusting and vile substances they are developed, and processed from; some obviously being worse than others.

    You know that Donald Monte is not your real name, and that in all of your reply posting here that your only directed purpose, is to make denial of every last bit of vaccine truth that is put forth on this article and this site. How many vaccines have you actually had in the last 5 to 10 years? Go ahead and tell us exactly who pays you for the time that you spend here reply posting, and as well making denial of anything and everything that is put forth?

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign
    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

    Infectious Agents and Cancer
    Review Open Access
    Simian virus 40 in humans

    To date, the prevalence of SV40 infections in humans is not known. Recent studies, based on PCR and serological techniques, indicate that SV40 infection occurs both in children and adults. (i) SV40 DNA sequences have been detected in normal and neoplastic tissues of people either too young (1 to 30 years) or too old (60 to 85 years) to have been vaccinated with SV40-contaminated anti-polio vaccines [19,33,76-81]. This finding may also explain the lack of difference in cancer incidence between individuals vaccinated with SV40-contaminated and SV40-free anti-polio vaccines [82]. (ii) SV40 sequences and Tag were detected in blood and sperm specimens from normal individuals and oncologic patients [80,81,83-88] and in lymphoblastoid cells [32]. These results suggest that (peripheral blood mononuclear cells) PBMCs, could be a reservoir and vehicle of SV40 spreading in the tissues of the host and among the individuals. (iii) SV40 sequences were found in urine and stoole samples, from children and adults [84,89,90], indicating that the haematic, sexual and orofecal routes of transmission are likely to be responsible for SV40 horizontal infection in humans.

    Read more:
    http://www.infectagentscancer.com/content/2/1/13

    Not only did polio vaccine not eradicate polio as we have been told, it also clearly seeded millions of people with a tumor and cancer causing virus known as SV40. A virus that this planet now quite clearly as well will never be rid of. What a great vaccine success story.

    Scientific proof that the known cancer causing SV40 virus, a previous contaminant in the polio vaccine, is obviously either contagious; or the virus is still in the vaccine/s.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/scientific-proof-that-the-known-cancer-causing-sv40-virus-a-previous-contaminant-in-the-polio-vaccine-is-obviously-either-contagious-or-the-virus-is-still-in-the-vaccines.html

  • Ditto???

    Protective Effect of Childhood Measles Against Degenerative Diseases in Later Life
    The above study indicates that a lack of rash in measles is associated with an increased incidence of autoimmune and degenerative diseases in later life. As the rash is the means through which the toxin is expelled from the body, its absence leads to the measles virus remaining in the body. The widespread use of vaccination has led to the appearance of “atypical measles” and “mild measles” where no rash develops. This can expose children to diseases in later life.

    Read more:
    http://www.vaccines.me/articles/afcjt-protective-effect-of-childhood-measles-against-degenerative-diseases-in-later-life.cfm

    Measles Virus Infection Without Rash In Childhood Is Related To Disease In Adult Life.
    The Lancet, January 5 1985

    Abstract
    The presence of measles specific antibodies is usually taken as evidence of typical measles in the past; in the present study it was regarded as evidence of infection with measles virus, but not necessarily of the common disease accompanied by a typical rash. The association between a negative history of measles in childhood and certain diseases later in life was investigated by a historical prospective method, based on school health records combined with self-reporting in adulthood, and tests for specific IgG measles antibody. There was evidence of association between a negative history of measles, exposure in early life (possibly injection of immune serum globulin after exposure), and development of immunoreactive diseases, sebaceous skin diseases, degenerative diseases of bone and cartilage, and certain tumours. It is suggested that the presence of measles virus specific antibodies at the time of acute infection interferes with development of specific cytolytic reactions, and enables intracellular measles virus to survive the acute infection. If this hypothesis is verified, use of immune serum globulin after measles exposure has to be reconsidered.

    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2885%2990961-4/abstract

    Public Health Officials Know: Recently Vaccinated Individuals Spread Disease
    http://globenewswire.com/news-release/2015/03/03/712042/10123084/en/Public-Health-Officials-Know-Recently-Vaccinated-Individuals-Spread-Disease.html

    More Vaccine Reality!
    http://www.vacfacts.info/more-vaccine-reality.html

    Multiple outbreaks of pertussis and measles found, where 80 to 90% of the outbreak was found in the fully vaccinated, on schedule.

    The Current Failure of Pertussis and Measles Vaccine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-current-failure-of-pertussis-and-measles-vaccine.html

  • So polio numbers were already in major decline, and then they reduce the numbers further and by thousands of cases, by use of a major change and shift in the diagnosis of polio, and you yet say that there is evidence existing that the vaccine was effective in eradication of polio. Where is that evidence, and realistically you know that there is nothing you can even begin to point to that is physiologically based, and nor scientific.

  • And you are actually that mindless as to attempt and to try to blame anything but the OPV vaccine?

  • I clearly and obviously did not say that. What I said is that the end of polio obviously had nothing to do with the polio vaccines.

  • Donald Monty

    Why do would you promote bringing back global endemic polio?

  • Donald Monty

    Measles, Lowell?

  • Donald Monty

    Lowell, look at Fig 2 in the article. Adjusted paralytic polio cases trended UP until 1954, when the polio vaccine was licensed. Can’t you interpret a bar forn graph?

  • Donald Monty

    I’m just giving you examples similar to your flawed logic. It’s really due to increased screening, just like with autism.

  • Donald Monty

    You did say that, Lowell. So what’s eradicating polio then? Pleaase come up with something new, this is tiresome.

  • Donald Monty

    Vactruth, I have destroyed this article. Only Lowell continues to fight, in his own simple way, at this point just trying to get in the last word on every post. Can we have a new article please?

  • Capt Ron

    YES – Fresh meat – Please!

  • Really? And you have specific evidence to accuse of that?

    I have not been re-vaccinated nor vaccinated in well over four decades, and there are thousands and if not millions of adults existing which have as well not been vaccinated since their school days. Those who have been, have been very minimally vaccinated, and that certainly does not and has not included the polio vaccine. Some some so called estimates go up to 18 years, but nothing is found with any certainty at all. Polio vaccine certainly does not provide protection for life, and if at all; and as well regarding different sero-types. There seems to be nothing for information in regard to any certainty as to how long immunity to polio, is acquired through the use of any polio vaccine, and they recommend a booster ever 10 years for those going into so called endemic areas.

    So tell me, why is not polio coming back in the US, with a vengeance? I will tell why, and that is because the vaccine was not the reason for the decline and disappearance of polio. Why is not diphtheria coming back, and for the same reason; lack of so called vaccine derived herd immunity?

    Here is a little information about who is actually bringing back polio.

    VRM: The Re-emergence of Polio in The Third World (compliments of the World Health Organization & Bill Gates)
    http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/?p=10091

    “Herd Immunity.” The flawed science and failures of mass vaccination, Suzanne Humphries, MD – See more at: http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/07/05/herd-immunity-the-flawed-science-and-failures-of-mass-vaccination-suzanne-humphries-md-3/

  • Donald Monty

    “So tell me, why is not polio coming back in the US, with a vengeance?”
    a) We wiped out endemic polio in the U.S. in 1979
    b) We have a steady 95% vaccination rate

  • Not in adults. What part of that do you not get? How can you be that misguided and naive that you think all that matters in this picture, is vaccinating the school children? In every case in point and every fact put forth, you have entirely ignored it. Why is that? Because you have to, that is why. Continuing on simply pushing and re-parroting again and again, the known false vaccine misinformation, and the false propaganda..

  • That concluding claim is so beyond mindless and delusional; and after all that has been put forth here; that at this point I don’t even know where a person would begin in the continuance of and in dispelling such, and that of your lying and continued ridiculous delusions.

  • Donald Monty

    See?

  • Really? And all you will do is go on to continually ignore and deny any factual vaccine truth information that is put forth.

    Go ahead and actually answer my question, and which you failed to do before?

    Go head and provide for me the studies that have directly shown the physiologically based safety profile of the current CDC vaccine schedule. Then as well give me some studies showing the safety profile of giving from 5 to up 9 or more vaccines to an infant or small child in a single day and office visit? Do not even bother providing the IOM report link or anything connected to Pediatrics, because those studies in truth, have never been done.

    Every one of the larger MMR, and Thimerosal epidemiolgical studies were clearly COOKED, for the results, period. Found were the use of flawed study designs, use of unrealiable data, predetermined outcomes unsupported by the data, and as well major conflicts of interest in the studies funding sources; none of them being independent and nor unbiased.

    VACCINES AND AUTISM – WHAT DO EPIDEMIOLOGICAL STUDIES REALLY TELL US?
    http://www.rescuepost.com/files/vaccines-and-autism-epidemiology-rebuttal.pdf

  • See what? And that is the best you can and could do? Same question to you. Get started.

    . Go ahead and actually answer my question, and which you failed to do before?

    Go head and provide for me the studies that have directly shown the physiologically based safety profile of the current CDC vaccine schedule. Then as well give me some studies showing the safety profile of giving from 5 to up 9 or more vaccines to an infant or small child in a single day and office visit? Do not even bother providing the IOM report link or anything connected to Pediatrics, because those studies in truth, have never been done.

    Every one of the larger MMR, and Thimerosal epidemiolgical studies were clearly COOKED, for the results, period. Found were the use of flawed study designs, use of unrealiable data, predetermined outcomes unsupported by the data, and as well major conflicts of interest in the studies funding sources; none of them being independent and nor unbiased.

    VACCINES AND AUTISM – WHAT DO EPIDEMIOLOGICAL STUDIES REALLY TELL US?

    ———–

    Vaccine injuries, Dr Andrew Moulden Montreal, 12 Sept 2009 (108 minutes)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQHmZw91G1c

    This next video series is 6 hours long, and was once as well provided in a 2 set DVD series. I had the set at one time in 2009, but was lost in one of the moves I made. I listened to that entire 6 hours of DVD. To think that that information is not front and center at the CDC, and that they would now not yet have to answer to it, now in 2015, is simply unreal. They know the truth; believe me. They are a very corrupt and evil organization, to say the least. Their denial, culpability, and liability factors are just massive. And they know it.

    Health Canada Corruption – Dr. Andrew Moulden – MD, PhD

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbo5vf_health-canada-corruption-dr-andrew_news

    Tolerance Lost Vol 1/3 – 1 of 16 – Moulden (6 hrs of video as well detailing the mechanisms of harm of vaccines)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZXM-TKvLN8

    Vaccination toxicity: The Zeta phase of MASS and “blood sludging”

    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccination-toxicity-the-zeta-phase-of-mass-and-ldquoblood-sludgingrdquo.html

    REDACTED VACCINE DEATH FORENSICS REPORT

    Baby M’s Parents,

    Petitioners

    Vs.

    Secretary of Health and Human Services,

    Respondent

    Preliminary Neurobehavioral/Forensics Report: Baby M, a minor.

    Dr Andrew Moulden BA, MA, MD, PhD April 30, 2009

    Vaccine Injury Coalition

    Palm Beach Gardens, FL USA

    http://www.vacfacts.info/baby-ms-parents-vaccine-death-forensics-report.html

    Neurosurgeon Exposes Vaccines, CDC, FDA and Science Fraud in Medicine

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NzvsZ8Ps_U

    Truth About Scientifically Supported Vaccine-Autism-Inflammatory Bowel Disease Connection

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/dr-wakefield-reveals-truth-about-scientifically-supported-vaccine-autism-inflammatory-bowel-disease-connection/5457636

    How Conflicts of Interest Have Corrupted the CDC

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/06/30/cdc-receives-funding-from-industry.aspx

    Quantities of aluminum in vaccines.

    http://www.drgreenmom.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Screen-Shot-2014-07-19-at-12.20.07-PM.png

    This is enough information and should be, to shut down the entire CDC directed infant vaccination schedule. But you know that again they will ignore it; because not to would finish them entirely.

    Suzanne Humphries, MD – Neonatal Immunity: The first 3 years of life:

    “Nothing should interfere with the immunologic programming, especially during the first three years.” Normal brain development depends on the baby maintaining a non-inflammatory state. Vaccines drive excessive inflammation and can derail normal brain development:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL8srdLw4c0

    Dr. Suzanne Humphries Has A Lot To Say About Aluminum In Vaccines

    “By the age of 18 months, that infant has already received 4,925 micrograms (mcg) of aluminum, 100 percent of which is absorbed since it’s given intramuscularly. In the 1980s the amount of aluminum you got when following the childhood vaccination schedule amounted to 1,120 mcg, and importantly, it was given in more mature babies, not newborns. Today, American children end up getting a grand total of 6,150 mcg of aluminum if they get all of their recommended vaccines.”

    Read more:

    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/04/20/dr-suzanne-humphries-has-a-lot-to-say-about-aluminum-in-vaccines/

    Dr Suzanne Humphries. Aluminum is toxic to all life forms: The case against aluminum in vaccines.

    https://youtu.be/LZe99K12740

    The Case Against Aluminum in Vaccines, (interview and video by Suzanne Humphries)

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/03/31/aluminum-vaccines.aspx

    How Vaccine Adjuvants Affect Your Brain, (interview with and video by, Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic)

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/03/29/vaccine-adjuvants-brain-effects.aspx

    Dr. Paul Offit’s Aluminum Deceptions and Academic Misconduct (one very important article, to read)

    http://vaccinepapers.org/dr-paul-offits-aluminum-deceptions-academic-misconduct/

    The Defense of Aluminum Adjuvant, Debunked

    http://vaccinepapers.org/rigorous-defense-al-adjuvant-wrong/

    A More Rigorous Defense of Al Adjuvant, and Why it is Wrong

    http://vaccinepapers.org/rigorous-defense-al-adjuvant-wrong/

    VRM: The Problem With Vaccines Part 2 – Synergistic Effect of Heavy Metal Toxicity On The Body

    http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/?p=6097

    The Mechanisms of Vaccine Injury and Via Cytokine Storm

    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-mechanisms-of-vaccine-injury-and-via-cytokine-storm.html

    Vaccine aluminum adjuvant causation of neuroglial activation and neuroinflammation in the brain of patients with autism.

    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-aluminum-adjuvant-causation-of-neuroglial-activation-and-neuroinflammation-in-the-brain-of-patients-with-autism.html

    Page two of the studies:

    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-aluminum-adjuvant-causation-of-neuroglial-activation-and-neuroinflammation-in-the-brain-of-patients-with-autism–page-2.html

    (Dr.) Paul Offit- The Real Truth (otherwise better known as,”Dr. Proffit”)

    http://www.vacfacts.info/paul-offit—the-real-truth.html

    Paul Offit – Falsely Defends Thimerosal

    http://www.vacfacts.info/paul-offit—falsely-defends-thimerosal.html

  • The overwhelming evidence remains that there are no sufficient studies that nor any studies that have ever directly looked at the physiological safety profile of giving 49 doses of 14 vaccines by the age of 6, and with approximately 34 of those doses injected, by the age of 2.

    There exists in the same regard, no studies that have actually determined the physiological safety profile of giving from 5 to up to 9 or more vaccines to an infant or small child, in a single day and office visit.

    Even the federal vaccine court decisions have shown such reckless vaccinating to have caused some serious vaccine injury and illness outcomes.

    If those studies actually existed in any form of a health care journal as well Paul Offit would have them all listed in order, and as well would the CDC. They do not. Instead they are still misinform the public in claiming that the number of antigens encountered by a child in daily life, is more than what exists in vaccines, They yet entirely disregard the need of and the direct study of actual vaccines, multiple vaccines, and as well with all of the combined ingredients.

    When asked, they try and throw the IOM report at it all, and a single article from Pediatrics; but it still does not fly as none of those studies have directly been done. Some how they think the combined totality of the size of IOM somehow covers it. it does not. It is a smokescreen in regard to the need of the necessary studies yet to be done regarding vaccine safety.

    And if vaccines are actually proven to be so safe; then why as well is this recently happening? Think that’s not real?

    Government Wipes Recent Vaccine Injury Data from Website
    https://sharylattkisson.com/government-wipes-recent-vaccine-injury-data-from-website/

    June 3, 2015
    Feds Sanitize Vaccine Injury Reporting BIG Time
    http://www.activistpost.com/2015/06/feds-sanitize-vaccine-injury-reporting.html

    Vaccine Injuries and Deaths Continue to Increase in Federal Vaccine Court
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/vaccine-injuries-and-deaths-continue-to-increase-in-federal-vaccine-court/

    Vaccine database wiped by government to hide uptick in admitted vaccine injuries
    http://www.naturalnews.com/049960_vaccine_injuries_government_database_censorship.html

    The Truth: Vaccines are not safe.

    The FDA, CDC, and legal precedent all say vaccines are inherently unsafe. If they are inherently unsafe, why don’t we hear of lawsuits?

    In 1986, class-action lawsuits threatened to bankrupt pharmaceutical companies responsible for deaths and disability resulting from unsafe vaccines. Manufacturers responded that they would no longer produce any vaccines. The government believed this was an unacceptable danger to the citizenry so Congress passed legislation to relieve manufactures of ANY liability for injury or death caused by their products.

    Prior to the passage this law (which both absolved manufactures of liability and placed the burden of injury/death compensation on the government), Jonas Salk (creator of the Polio vaccine that maimed millions) testified at the 1986 congressional hearings. Salk worried that the law would take away the incentive for vaccine manufactures to make vaccines safer. The law passed anyway and history has proven Salk correct (vaccine related deaths from Gardasil, DPT, polio, measles, and flu vaccines are only some examples of deadly vaccines).

    The law was amended in 1988 to also provide that manufacturers were permitted the right to not disclose the known risks of vaccinations. (PACE ENVIRONMENTAL LAW REVIEW [Vol. 28])

    As a result of this legislation, the only legal recourse is to bring a claim to the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP), a federally sponsored administrative body that operates outside of the criminal or civil court system. In effect, no one is allowed to sue the pharmaceutical manufacturers for injury or death resulting from a vaccine since all claims must pass through VICP first.

    Vaccine Court: No Due Process & Compensation at the Taxpayers Expense

    VICP is commonly known as “vaccine court,” although it is not a court but an administrative hearing without either a judge or jury. It is overseen by a “special master,” a lawyer who is neither a scientist nor medical doctor. The judicial protections or rights for claimants, such as the right to discovery or cross-examination, which are guaranteed to plaintiffs in judicial or civil court, do not exist at VICP.

    Read more:
    http://www.stopmandatoryvaccination.com/vaccine-dangers/

    Public Health Myth #3: Vaccines Are Safe

    The Myth: Vaccines are safe and effective; long ago they were proven to prevent disease and research studies proved that they are safer than the diseases they prevent.

    http://www.stopmandatoryvaccination.com/public-health/myth-3-vaccines-are-safe/

    Vaccination Is The Driving Force Behind The Destructive Evolution of Viruses and Pharmaceutical Companies Know It
    http://preventdisease.com/news/15/050815_Vaccination-Behind-Destructive-Evolution-Viruses-Pharmaceutical-Companies-Know-It.shtml

  • Was not the original claim made when they developed the measles vaccine, that they were going to eradicate measles? Why has that not happened? All live vaccines shed, by the way.

    Obviously you have lost your mind and entirely missed the information that was put in front of you. LOOK AT IT AGAIN, AND FACE REALITY!!! And you actually think that you can just get away with ignoring that important information? Really?

    Multiple cases of vaccine outbreak and failure where 80 to 90% of those in the outbreak were fully vaccinated, on schedule. Do you call that a success?

    The Current Failure of Pertussis and Measles Vaccine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-current-failure-of-pertussis-and-measles-vaccine.html

    Turns out that we have been lied to and misinformed, on every front.

    The already long existing and the real study science has already long since, shown us what the REAL truth is.

    Measles jab reduces inherited immunity

    A recent study found that women vaccinated with the measles vaccine pass on far less immunity to their offspring than women who are not vaccinated. Measles jab reduces inherited immunity

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/503025.stm

    Waning of Maternal Antibodies Against Measles, Mumps, Rubella, and Varicella in Communities With Contrasting Vaccination Coverage

    Conclusions. Children of mothers vaccinated against measles and, possibly, rubella have lower concentrations of maternal antibodies and lose protection by maternal antibodies at an earlier age than children of mothers in communities that oppose vaccination. This increases the risk of disease transmission in highly vaccinated populations.

    http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2013/04/29/infdis.jit143.long

    Protective Effect of Childhood Measles Against Degenerative Diseases in Later Life

    The above study indicates that a lack of rash in measles is associated with an increased incidence of autoimmune and degenerative diseases in later life. As the rash is the means through which the toxin is expelled from the body, its absence leads to the measles virus remaining in the body. The widespread use of vaccination has led to the appearance of “atypical measles” and “mild measles” where no rash develops. This can expose children to diseases in later life.

    Read more:
    http://www.vaccines.me/articles/afcjt-protective-effect-of-childhood-measles-against-degenerative-diseases-in-later-life.cfm

    Measles Virus Infection Without Rash In Childhood Is Related To Disease In Adult Life.
    The Lancet, January 5 1985

    Abstract
    The presence of measles specific antibodies is usually taken as evidence of typical measles in the past; in the present study it was regarded as evidence of infection with measles virus, but not necessarily of the common disease accompanied by a typical rash. The association between a negative history of measles in childhood and certain diseases later in life was investigated by a historical prospective method, based on school health records combined with self-reporting in adulthood, and tests for specific IgG measles antibody. There was evidence of association between a negative history of measles, exposure in early life (possibly injection of immune serum globulin after exposure), and development of immunoreactive diseases, sebaceous skin diseases, degenerative diseases of bone and cartilage, and certain tumours. It is suggested that the presence of measles virus specific antibodies at the time of acute infection interferes with development of specific cytolytic reactions, and enables intracellular measles virus to survive the acute infection. If this hypothesis is verified, use of immune serum globulin after measles exposure has to be reconsidered.

    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2885%2990961-4/abstract

    Public Health Officials Know: Recently Vaccinated Individuals Spread Disease
    http://globenewswire.com/news-release/2015/03/03/712042/10123084/en/Public-Health-Officials-Know-Recently-Vaccinated-Individuals-Spread-Disease.html

    Not A Coincidence-Gardasil
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijwlo_NnPQc

  • Ian Zacher

    Lol

  • Donald Monty

    The article is about polio, Lowell.

  • Donald Monty

    If you want to link something that’s
    a) about polio, and
    b) not from a wack-job site like this one
    that’d be great

  • Donald Monty

    ditto

  • Zury Arencibia Nuñez

    Polio was renamed Aseptic Meningitis after the vaccines went into use, thereby effecting a partial reduction in Polio by euphemistic redefinition.

  • Donald Monty

    No. Due to more accurate diagnostic criteria aseptic meningitis was no longer misdiagnosed as polio.

  • What kind of complete BS is that crap? Just the opposite quite clearly happened, and as your persistent delusions filled mind, demands and continues to claim to, and entirely ignores and denies.

  • So what you are telling me is that you are going to dictate to me what is acceptable information and or what is acceptable to you. And that absolutely nothing for reference sources that clearly oppose your views and vaccine claims, is considered by you as being acceptable on this article, and on this website reply posting. That is really not surprising, as the corrupt CDC/FDA/AAP have exactly done the same thing. The refusal of all truth and opposing information.

  • So then why have you and do you specifically address measles? Nothing like a wishy washy mindless dweeble posting and reply reposting on an article like this. So again you simply can not in any honesty reply, and so again instead, you use the false excuse that the article is only about polio.

  • Ditto? Does that mean that you are a CDC and big pharma… mindless… sheeple…DITTO head? Quite obviously at this point, that is the only meaning it ever could have.

  • Zury Arencibia Nuñez

    Poliomyelitis research has been predominantly directed along only one line of investigation, i.e., the infectious theory. This single line of study, precluding other possibilities, including the poison cause of the disease, has resulted from two factors, (1) The Public Health Law93, and (2) the insistence, based entirely on animal experiments, that poliomyelitis is caused by a virus.

  • Zury Arencibia Nuñez

    1. The Public Health Law. The inclusion of poliomyelitis in the Public Health Law as a communicable, infectious disease dates back to the early part of the 20th Century. At that time many diseases, now known to be neither communicable nor infectious, were considered to be caused by an infectious agent simply because they occurred in epidemics.

  • Zury Arencibia Nuñez

    2. Virus Research. The more or less general acceptance of the idea that poliomyelitis is caused by a virus arose from experimental animal studies by Landsteiner98 (1908) in Austria, and Flexner and Lewis99 (1909) in the United States. These experiments showed that a substance obtained from poliomyelitis victims could produce a paralytic disease when administered to experimental animals. It has been assumed, as a result of these experiments that an exogenous [originating from without] virus is the cause of human poliomyelitis. Dr. Harold L. Amoss100 stated in 1928: “By reason of the parrellelism of the human and experimental disease it is believed that inferences drawn from experiments with monkeys may be accepted with a certain degree of safety as applicable to the solution of problems in connection with human cases.” The portal of entry of the so-called virus of poliomyelitis into the human body never has been established. The question of the portal of entry is summed up in the published reports of the International Poliomyelitis Congress that was held in New York City in 1948. The Modulator stated: “We do not know too much about the portal of entry in human beings,” and Dr. John R. Paul, of Yale University, stated: “I would say we do not know the portal of entry in human beings.”

  • Donald Monty

    Where is aseptic meningitis being misdiagnosed as polio Lowell?

  • Donald Monty

    So you know how to copy and paste from whale.to – very impressive!

  • Actually whale.to has within its articles, more real and factually recorded history regarding the truth and the failures of, and well as to the true nature of what modern medicine, and the standard medical model really is and amount to, and have been throughout history; than you could ever handle and nor ever answer to. And I think you actually now that.

    It is really pathetic that the first thing that you will notice in the failure of a angry about the vaccine truth, trolling vaccine shill; is in that they do absolutely nothing but throw false discreditation mud at any and all sources that do a actually good job of presenting with the real truth, and the historical record of the truth.

    Pharmakeia (aka sorceries) of Babylon
    http://www.vacfacts.info/pharmakeia-aka-sorceries-of-babylon.html

    The False Foundations of Modern Medicine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-foundations-of-modern-medicine.html

  • The information is and has been right in front of you, educate yourself. Do not be asking others to now educate you, when the real issue is that you stubbornly refused all of the information that you were provided..

  • That certainly does not seem to me to be what that graph is actually showing.

  • But you have not shown nor proven an flawed logic, whatsoever. That being just another deception and delusion that you formed in your own mind.

  • Donald Monty

    You brought up measles.

  • Donald Monty

    Whale.to is a joke.

  • Donald Monty

    Dodge.

  • That’s funny. Some doctor working out of medical center in Wisconsin, said the same thing. Likely working shifts. IP was out of a medical center.

  • Failing to educate yourself and choosing to stay in your own denial, doctor; is simply not a sensible and nor rational thing to do; especially when replying on an article like this that has had so much available information.

  • Whatever you say, doctor. You just keep moving the goal posts, and when that is replied to you move them back again. That does not seem like a very intelligent nor rational thing for any person to do, that is actually interested in debating the vaccine truth.

  • What about measles, doctor??? So are you telling me that you see yourself as the moderator of this site, and that only you can dictate what can be presented with here? You failed to address and nor to debate the polio issue in any honesty. You ignored and denied everything that was here; and so often on this sites articles other issues are moved on to. So therefore should we now be electing you as the new moderator of this site, and its articles?

  • Sue

    I think you will find the parents with children diagnosed with autism especially in the 1980’s would disagree with especially when they had beautiful normal children until they were vaccinated… . That is just one of the biggest lies of autism.. and pleases tell me where all the people in their 40’s 50’s 60’s 70’s with autism.. Oh that is right they are not yet diagnosed.. ….

  • Donald Monty
  • Donald Monty

    Yes, Lowell-you were getting too close. Our BigPharma overlords felt the last guy (gal?) was in too deep, was losing his edge, might blow his (her?) cover and expose the whole pro-vax propaganda division. That cannot be allowed to happen. Right now he’s up in earth orbital 7 undergoing brain-wipe. I’m taking over.

  • Donald Monty

    Another dodge. Where is aseptic meningitis being misdiagnosed as polio, Lowell? Canada? Tibet? Where?

  • Donald Monty

    You are the one moving the goal posts, Lowell. You can’t answer my questions about polio so you start posting nonsense about Gardasil, measles, HPV, food allergies, etc.
    What I’ve accomplished here is destroying this turd of an article. Anyone who reads the comments forever and ever will see it’s all BS. Forever, Lowell.

  • Donald Monty

    I’m telling you to stay on topic and use legitimate sources.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re bringing up measles so you don’t have to try to defend this indefensible cesspool of an article on polio.

  • Donald Monty

    It’s the solid black bar, Lowell.

  • Donald Monty

    When you’ve wiped out an endemic disease in a country and still have a 95% vaccination rate, even if antibody titers fall years later you’re unlikely to have outbreaks. We haven’t since 1979.

  • Your questions are all answered, the last one (above) went to moderation for no known reason, but will be back out shortly. Be sure you respond to it.

    Your only accomplishment here was to prove repeatedly just how far into the denial of the vaccine truth, you choose to remain. As for your false claim of destroying the article, that only again points to how persistently arrogant and insistently delusional, you insist on remaining.

  • You aren’t ever telling me anything; and clearly everything HAS stayed on top; and if I choose to add additionally important issues, and while you are dancing around with all your twisted denial; then that is exactly what i will do. All the sources I use are clearly legitimate; and you in your highly biased state of being, simply are not going to refuse information on this site and its articles, just because it is not a pro-vaccine promoting source. You have nothing, and you have had literally nothing for sources, much less unbiased and independent sources, since you.started reply posting on this site. Legitimate. Obviously you do not even have as much as a basic comprehension of the term.

  • That claim is absolutely pointless when polio was actually already in significant decline prior to a vaccine, and when there was additionally and fraudulently produced a major decline in polio numbers and by simply making the major change in diagnosis criteria that they did. When they reinstated some use of DDT after banning it, and after polio was nearly gone; and the first thing that happens is that they had a new phenomenon they called post polio syndrome; which again disappears after DDT is again banned; you do not end up with a very good case that you can make regarding any eradication of polio, by use of the vaccine.

    Then then when you additionally go to the fraudulent story where the claim is again also made that small pox vaccine eradicated small pox; and when the real historically recorded information shows that small pox vaccine only created larger outbreaks of small pox; all you pro-vaccine people have left is an empty claim for vaccines that are nothing better than correlation equals causation. You are as well not as much as even left with any real vaccine efficacy science behind those said eradication claims.

  • No, actually I do it just to irritate you even more; and just because I have the truth, and I can. Your questions have been answered and, every one that I have seen to this point. And you? How many questions have you failed to answer to? The use of repeat arrogance and hypocrisy are not good debating strategies, and nor is that working very well for you

  • If correlation equals causation, and you choose falsely to use that in regard to your polio eradication claims; then why do you at the same time refuse to accept the proven science, data, and studies that show directly that vaccines cause autism; and yet you call the issue of vaccines causing vaccine injury and autism, just a coincidence and only amounting to correlation equals causation. But yet in your mind it is just fine for you to yet use that concept to praise the alleged eradication of polio by use of vaccines. And you yet actually think people are to find that all as being credible?

  • So then with a billion people there a slight 48 to 50,000 people who end up with acute flaccid paralysis and their lives ruined, is simply of no consequence to you. They took one for the herd.

  • You do not reword and reinterpret my statements to and for your own use, and your liking.

  • At least your honest about as much of it as being with the pro-vaccine false propaganda division; and working for and from a medical center.

    When you get a break there, you can sit and listen to these quite informative videos.

    How Vaccines Harm Child Brain Development – Dr Russell Blaylock MD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QBcMYqlaDs

    Vaccines & Immunoexcitotoxicity – Dr. Russell Blaylock
    Dr. Russell Blaylock speaking at The National Autism Association (NAA).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYV8laCbNSE

    Neurosurgeon Exposes Vaccines, CDC, FDA and Science Fraud in Medicine
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NzvsZ8Ps_U

    Dr. Russell L. Blaylock, M.D. – The Danger of Excessive Vaccination During Brain Development: Link to Autism
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/dr-russell-l-blaylock-m-d-the-danger-of-excessive-vaccination-during-brain-development-link-to-autism/

    Published Papers – Dr. Russell Blaylock
    http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/

    The Deadly Impossibility Of Herd Immunity Through Vaccination, by Dr. Russell Blaylock
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/02/18/the-deadly-impossibility-of-herd-immunity-through-vaccination-by-dr-russell-blaylock/

  • And you are with this obvious junk science study, going to attempt to us that there is and has been no significant increase in autism, and that the rates of autism is similar to what has existed in adults? And you tell us that even though the CDC itself has seen consistent and and admitted to very significant increases in childhood autism over the last two decades or more? And you are telling us that the adult population has similar rates of existing autism, and compared to the child population. That rate is now estimated at 1 in 68 in children. And this is actually what you want us to believe?

    Here are a couple of your studies excerpts, below.

    Arch Gen Psychiatry. 2011 May;68(5):459-65. doi: 10.1001/archgenpsychiatry.2011.38.
    Epidemiology of autism spectrum disorders in adults in the community in England.

    RESULTS:
    Of 7461 adult participants who provided a complete phase 1 interview, 618 completed phase 2 diagnostic assessments. The weighted prevalence of ASD in adults was estimated to be 9.8 per 1000

    CONCLUSIONS:
    Conducting epidemiologic research on ASD in adults is feasible. The prevalence of ASD in this population is similar to that found in children. The lack of an association with age is consistent with there having been no increase in prevalence and with its causes being temporally constant.

    CDC estimates 1 in 68 children has been identified with autism spectrum disorder
    http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/p0327-autism-spectrum-disorder.html

  • Donald Monty

    For some reason in a discussion about polio Sue wanted to know where autistic adults in their 40s-70s were. I showed her.

  • Donald Monty

    Which of my questions was answered above, Lowell? Remember we’re talking about polio.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re not even arguing anymore, Lowell. You simply contradict.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re repeating your already discredited theories.

  • Donald Monty

    Thanks for admitting you brought up measles just to try to irritate me.

  • Donald Monty

    The black bar is the key, though. It represents true polio cases, not other neurologic disorders previously misdiagnosed as polio. You and the author of this crap article claim it was going down before widespread polio vaccination started, but it wasn’t. Seems he can’t read a bar graph either.

  • Donald Monty

    Ditto.

  • Donald Monty

    Why did the polio vaccine field trials show significant reductions in polio only among the vaccinated? Why is endemic polio only in Nigeria, Afghanistan and Pakistan now, countries with political and social upheaval making it hard to vaccinate enough of the population? The author of this BS study says polio was already in decline, but his own references show otherwise (remember the bar graph?). All you’ve come up with is DDT and tonsillectomy rates in the U.S., both of which are laughable and exponentially so in the context of a global event. Where did all the polio go, Lowell?

  • Donald Monty

    None of that is on topic. Blaylock is another anti-vaccine loon BTW.

  • Donald Monty

    The new diagnostic criteria, as we’ve discussed countless times now, and which your own links explain were based on the Salk vaccine field trial criteria (not a government conspiracy), being more accurate, weeded out NON-polio cases. It didn’t hide true polio cases. Those were wiped out by the polio vaccine. It doesn’t matter what another anti-vaccine nut job says on a YouTube video.

  • Donald Monty

    Again non-polio AFP cases in India are going up due to increased screening, and it’s unknown whether OPV has anything to do with non-polio AFP.

  • Donald Monty

    Another non-answer.

  • The Truth About Donald Monte
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZHqgQOVL0k

  • And yet you do not have the ability to respond to the information directly, and nor do you have anyone within the medical industry and nor withing the field of brain science that can refute any of this, because it is the truth. That any more than they could ever refute what Dr Andrew Moulden put forth for evidence of the vaccine harm truth. All you people can ever do is throw false discrediation, mud and poo; and you know it.

  • So again and again you refuse to accept any actual truth and reality, and yet you continue to maintain that the false vaccine propaganda and the ignoring the evidence of the real truth; is the ONLY avenue you will ever choose to go.

    When you change the diagnosis criteria regarding polio right at the time of vaccine development and use, and which immediately removes an estimated 30,000 cases of existing polio from the numbers; there becomes no way for you to claim that the known change in diagnosis became more accurate, and that it didn’t hide true cases of polio. To continue on with that claim is purely and only continued denialism insanity, and a failure to face the facts and reality.

    For you to claim that the career of one, Dr Russell Blaylock and as to the direct vaccien truth information he has put forth, amounts to being nothing but some sort of a nut job, and as to that said information; just shows directly how refusing the real vaccine truth information, you intend to remain. Face it.

    The Truth About Donald Monty, Part Two
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XayIOVKccEM&feature=youtu.be

  • Talk is cheap and with absolutely nothing to show for and to back up your claims. The only thing that has been clearly discredited here, is you and you continued and in denial false vaccine propaganda and in error, re-parotted claims.

  • Do you have anything else to waste my time with? You know, in regard to your persistent and continued denial of fact and reality?

  • Possibly. But maybe not.

    Now then, do you have anything to say about the actual comment you replied to? Do you even understand the comment you replied to?

    I would guess No and No.

  • Non answer? That was a direct answer. Polio declared eradicated in 1979 does not prove nor show that any vaccine was responsible for it. Again that is nothing but assumed correlation equals causation.

  • There was nothing more accurate about it. They just started diagnosing polio cases as aseptic meningitis. it wasn’t like all of a sudden everything was laboratory-confirmed.

    But even if what you are claiming were true, it would still be disingenuous at best to claim, as they most certainly did, that polio incidence went down precipitously after introduction of the oral polio vaccine.

  • You have destroyed nothing. All you’ve even commented on is the aseptic meningitis issue, you haven’t even touched on the demonstrable fact that the CDC changed the case and outbreak definitions and this resulted in a very dramatic “reduction” in both cases and outbreaks.

    And as I’ve said before, even if your claim were true (and it is not), but lets assume you’re correct…that the newly diagnosed cases were in fact aseptic meningitis and they were just misdiagnosed earlier. If that were the case, then it would still be lying to claim that OPV saved the day and resulted in these dramatic reductions.

    You can’t “destroy” this article unless you can counter this. Good luck, we are all counting on you.

  • I just explained to you, exactly how and why you showed absolutely nothing but false and misleading information. Junk science.

  • Do not play your sick and twisted games with me. The question was about polio, just go read it; and you likely already have. Better yet propose a question that you have previously asked, and that was not answered.

  • Really? And tell me, exactly what was contradicted here? You are doing nothing but just further and pointless antagonizing, and that is because that is all you can do, and all you have and ever will be able to do.

  • That answer has been already put in front of you days ago on this article and you ignored it all. And you continue to ignore it all.

  • Donald Monty

    So where did all the polio go?

  • Donald Monty

    The prevalence of ASD in this population is similar to that found in children.”

  • Donald Monty

    Sure. It’s decades old germ theory denialist nonsense from whale.to.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re just reposting the same nonsense.

  • Donald Monty

    Where’s the polio, Lowell? And whether you type out your crazy ideas here or say them on a YouTube video wearing a wifebeater doesn’t make them any more credible.

  • Donald Monty

    Where’s all the polio now?

  • Donald Monty

    I said you weren’t staying on topic and were using crap sources, and you contradicted both statements.

  • Donald Monty

    What fact are you rambling about?

  • Donald Monty

    Not unless you post something worth responding to. You’re just ranting now.

  • Donald Monty

    Why did the author say true polio cases were declining before the vaccine when the graph he posted says the opposite? That’s the key question.

  • Donald Monty

    Then how was polio eradicated?

  • If you were paying attention you would understand that both polio cases and outbreaks, to a significant degree, magically disappeared due to the CDC’s statistical manipulations. Another sizable portion of the actual and remaining polio cases started to get diagnosed as aseptic meningitis.

    I haven’t studies this enough to have a definitive answer for the remaining polio cases, however it seems that you might very well be asking the wrong question:

    http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/pesticides-and-polio-a-critique-of-scientific-literature/

  • Just what kind of a completely mislead fool are you, wrong name, Donald Monty? Is it more sensible to focus on killing all the germs, bacteria and viruses, etc.; or is it more sensible to focus on detoxification and in providing physiologically what the human body needs as well nutritionally to attain optimal health? Do you even understand what cellular nutrition is, and how different that is compared to the standard American diet?

    There are no cures to be found in pharmaceutical drugs and nor toxic and contaminated vaccines. In the bigger picture what is and has happened with that amounts to the causation of more harm done than good. It is impossible to understand, what you deliberately refuse to understand.

    http://documentaryheaven.com/simply-raw-reversing-diabetes-in-30-days/

    The False Foundations of Modern Medicine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-foundations-of-modern-medicine.html

    The Dru Story – A Factological History Of America’s $10,000,000,000 Drug Cartel, Its Methods, Operations, Hidden Ownership, Profits And Terrific Impact On The Health Of The American People.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-drug-story—the-history-of-modern-medicine.html

  • That is not true at all. You in any honesty can respond to literally nothing, here; and you know it. The person posting the same and repeated stick their head back in the sand hole denial, and refuse the information denial, is you.

  • Again, quite obviously the evidence shows that it is not, and you actually failed to answer Sue’s question. To continue to believe in your claim, again you have ignored that-that would as well be to claim that the autism rate in adults is also 1 in 68, and has remained so for several decades. Any person with even basic common sense and knowledge regarding the issue, knows that is not reality and nor is it nor has that ever been true..

  • How many times does that question need to be answered, answered as well with the reference material, and before you stop mindlessly and in your own persistent denial, asking the same question?

    And do you enjoy personally attacking people with a full identity, and while you have provided zero? And you want to even label the type of clothes people are wearing. Your desperation really shows.

  • Donald Monty

    Posting alternative medicine opinion pieces instead of defending this trash heap of an article?

  • Donald Monty

    And insults. You have nothing else.

  • Clearly none of it is opinion, but historically recorded truth. Face it, doctor.

  • Donald Monty

    Well when you figure it out let us know.

  • If you are insulted by the truth and reality in front of you right now, then that is your problem. I am not here to support, coddle, and nor to baby you, and your feelings..

  • Proved an actual answer and respond to what was actually said.

  • Here is a better question, and as I have put forth before here. Where is your vaccine derived herd immunity in regard to polio, when millions of adults have never been re-vaccinated for polio? I have not had any vaccines in over 4 decades, why do I not have polio? Why s not polio coming back? I will tell you why; and that is because polio vaccine obviously did not eradicate polio in the first place.The question, where is polio; should actually be answered, by you.

  • Donald Monty

    I answered her question. The adult screening study I linked found about 1% of adults had ASD, compared historically with just under 1.5% in children.

  • Your false accusations and opinion are of no importance here. What is important is having verifiable facts and truth. When you make any accusation or statement, you need have specific details and evidence to back it up; which is something you obviously and repeatedly continue to fail at here, on every level.

  • Donald Monty

    You keep saying the question of where did all the polio go has been answered but it hasn’t.

  • Donald Monty

    It’s crap, Lowell. That’s all you’ve ever collected.

  • Donald Monty

    There’s very little truth on Vactruth, Lowell.

  • For one among many, obviously it involves your claim that polio vaccine eradicated polio. It is a fact that the said claim clearly is not true. To date, you have as well provided zero evidence that it is true.

  • Donald Monty

    I have. OPV and IPV.

  • And exactly what are you doing? Rubbing the vaccine truth again in your face and because you again denied it and required it, is not ranting.

  • Donald Monty

    “…even if your claim were true…that the newly diagnosed cases were in fact aseptic meningitis and they were just misdiagnosed earlier.”
    What newly diagnosed cases are you talking about? Newly diagnosed cases of polio? Where?

  • Pharmaceutical and vaccine makers clinical trials have throughout history shown a level of corruption that simply can not be any of the claims made, be believed. This is an obvious and repeatedly shown to be true, fact. And specifically what and which study do you refer to, name it directly.

  • That question was already answered and you refused to accept the answer and nor obviously to review any of the information.

  • Donald Monty

    Answer the question, Lowell. Stop dodging. Where’s all the polio now?

  • Donald Monty

    Like I said, you’re just contradicting.

  • Donald Monty

    Then where’d all the polio go, Lowell?

  • Donald Monty

    So you’re done then? Sounds like it.

  • Oh no, I am never done, ever. As much as your wishful thinking is running away with that thought.

  • Donald Monty

    Actually not a study by a long shot. This article. This absurd opinion piece.

  • Donald Monty

    What was the answer again? I don’t see it.

  • Donald Monty

    What was that answer again? I still don’t see it.

  • Perhaps you should just be banned from this website because of your antagonizing efforts to repeatedly ask the same question that has already been endlessly addressed and answered. You do not like the answer, and obviously nor do you want to face and accept the answer. Like I said that is a question that you should actually be answering. And as well where is your vaccine derived immunity in regard to polio? If you claim to that with vaccines they wiped polio from the earth, then why are they still vaccinating for polio? Where is Diphtheria; millions of adults have not been revaccinated since childhood for that either?

  • And you again are just simply and repeatedly only antagonizing. Nothing was contradicted; and you have again failed to specifically state and nor point to anything that was.

  • You do not get to answer a question put to you, with as question. What I gave you as well is a far more specific, applicable, and a direct question that has not yet been answered to on this article.

  • Do you even comprehend what exists as the past history of the polio days and as to the vaccine issues, verses the current day and time? You are entirely distorting what the man stated.

  • You simply choose to claim to that because you reject the reality of the answer. Again, where is your polio vaccine derived herd immunity existing at? How do you in your mind determine that polio vaccine has eradicated polio, and that the current childhood vaccine schedule to include the polio vaccine, prevents polio from coming back, when there exist millions of adults who have never been re-vaccinated since childhood? Would that not suggest to you as well that the polio vaccine never actually eradicated polio? How many times do I need to ask you this and these questions, and again have it and that ignored?

  • Again; the CDC’s own information entirely contradicts your claims and that study. It is the worst form of junk science and even basic epidemiology. The CDC itself in their studies have seen major increases in autism numbers, comparable and compared to that of past decades. Your claim is literally ludacris.

  • What? How stubbornly mindless can and do you replies actually get? Complete denial of all, and with the persistent and willfully maintained ignorance of all information that has been put forth on this article.

  • Translation. Donald refuses to accept and to face any form of the real vaccine truth.

  • Donald Monty

    No it’s just another anti-vaccine lunatic site. They’re all over the internet.

  • Donald Monty

    This article is crap.

  • Donald Monty

    It’s what the study found, Lowell. Refute it if you can-don’t just contradict.

  • Donald Monty

    “a) We wiped out endemic polio in the U.S. in 1979
    b) We have a steady 95% vaccination rate”
    That was my previous answer. You keep asking the same thing.

  • Donald Monty

    Lol I quoted him directly. He seems confused.

  • If the standard medical model were to ever accept those truths, and as well if they actually acknowledged and admit to their real history; they would be finished. Their billion dollar pharmaceutical drug empire would be destroyed over night. Their entire foundations of pharmaceutical health care, would need to be torn down and as well their entire physiologically based understanding of health care, and entirely changed to a holistically based understanding, and as it was originally around 100 years ago. At the time where the Rockefeller’s bought out all medical schools, and changed what was clearly working well at the time regarding naturopathic protocols, to a chemical drugs only approach to health care.

    That false approach to health care and including vaccines, is what is the REAL crap, fraud, and from the start involving major and monopolized for big profit, corruption; and that has continued to exist to the current day.That system in reality is and has been largely a failure, with the public and the children only getting chronically sicker. What and how many things have they actually cured? What things do they really have any physiologically based and real understanding of the causation? The answer is, very few.

  • Donald Monty

    Here I’ll post it a third time: a) We wiped out endemic polio in the U.S. in 1979
    b) We have a steady 95% vaccination rate
    So where’s all the polio?

  • Donald Monty

    Of course both statements were simply contradicted. Read your own posts, Lowell.

  • Donald Monty

    I’ve told you repeatedly there are still 3 countries left with endemic polio. Once they get eradicated we won’t need any more polio vaccines! You should be joyous!

  • Really? And just how were they in any way, contradicting, Donald?

  • Donald Monty

    You’re ranting again. Let’s talk about polio.

  • You were asked, where is your vaccine herd immunity existing at; in regard to polio vaccine? You continue to fail to answer that question, as it was put to you. So you are telling me that acquiring vaccine derived herd immunity only involves and requires vaccinating school children, and that you can forget about millions of adults who have never been revaccinated since childhood? That is what you are telling me.

  • Obviously no one is confused here but you, Donald. And you have the hypocritical audacity to accuse others of not answering, your questions? Really?

  • So you can not answer to the stated issue and nor the information? So then you just move the goal posts back to polio where everything in regard to that issue has already been repeatedly addressed, and as to that issue you simply go back to ignoring the questions put to you, and again repeatedly ask the same old question that has already been answered. that is called literal harassment and antagonizing. That in my opinion and view, is clearly at this point deserving of you to be simply banned from ever reply posting on vactruth, again. That is not the purpose of the site and nor its articles.

  • So you are telling me that polio can and will be entirely eradicated from the earth, if enough vaccines are used. You are thus also clearly telling me that being there still exists endemic polio, that the US still needs to be vaccinating the school children with polio vaccine. Yet you can not explain how and why polio is not coming back in the US, when millions of adults have not been revaccinated in up to four or more decades? Vaccines require herd immunity to work, so it is stated; so again I present with the question to you; WHERE does the polio vaccine derived herd immunity exist at? It clearly doesn’t.

  • I already posted to you the url links to the CDC’s website information pages, regarding those said autism diagnosis numbers statistics. You are pathetic.

  • Is that the only way that you can continue to practice within the standard medical model, and with any good conscience? You just have to deny all the real and the truth information?

  • You are playing nothing more than your sick games. I don’t play games.

  • Again. You are playing nothing but your sick games. I do not play games.

  • More correctly said, all of your replies are nothing but crap.

  • In regard to polio vaccine; again, where does your vaccine derived herd immunity exist? You continue to refuse to answer the question.

  • Donald Monty

    No Lowell, YOU move the goal posts, contradict without proof, insult, try to intimidate with YouTube videos (pathetic as they are), insult, rant, post unscientific opinion pieces from other loony anti-vaccine sites and then just try to get the last comment in on every thread – anything to avoid trying to defend this dung heap of an article. YOU should be banned from this site.

  • Donald Monty

    You have it completely backwards, Lowell. It’s sad.

  • Donald Monty

    My replies are about the only rational statements on this site.

  • Donald Monty

    And using your links I showed the ASD rate in children is only 0.5% higher than in adults.

  • Donald Monty

    Herd immunity generally requires a 95% vaccination rate, which we have. But as I’ve posted multiple times, since endemic polio no longer exists here due to the polio vaccination program, even if titers wane over time there won’t be new outbreaks unless endemic polio is reintroduced here, which I guess is what you want to happen.

  • Donald Monty

    I do. Where’s the polio, Lowell?

  • Donald Monty

    I’ll repost what I just posted above: Herd immunity generally requires a 95% vaccination rate, which we have. But as I’ve posted multiple times, since endemic polio no longer exists here due to the polio vaccination program, even if titers wane over time there won’t be new outbreaks unless endemic polio is reintroduced here, which I guess is what you want to happen.
    Now again, where’s all the polio, Lowell?

  • Donald Monty

    I’ll repost again from above: I said you weren’t staying on topic and were using crap sources, and you contradicted both statements.

  • Donald Monty

    I’ll repost from above:I’ll repost what I just posted above: Herd immunity generally requires a 95% vaccination rate, which we have. But as I’ve posted multiple times, since endemic polio no longer exists here due to the polio vaccination program, even if titers wane over time there won’t be new outbreaks unless endemic polio is reintroduced here, which I guess is what you want to happen.
    And again yes if we vaccinate enough people we will wipe out polio from the earth just like we did with small pox. Why would you not want to do that?

  • Donald Monty

    You keep saying it was answered but where was that again? I don’t see it.

  • Donald Monty

    Great! So where did all the polio go?

  • Donald Monty

    Dodge.

  • Donald Monty

    Ditto.

  • AutismDad

    Thats something they do, omit by definition. Its why vaccines don’t cause autism, they have deemed it via definition. It becomes the OFFICIAL WORD.

  • AutismDad

    What a fool. You fell for it. They used persons age 16 and up to attempt this latest conjob. Since when are 16 year olds 40, 50, 60, 70 year olds??

  • And you are nothing but a persistently deceptive and lying piece of garbage. You are deceiving the readers, and even yourself. Your time here on this article was worth absolutely nothing, but to again and again show the public how lying and in denial the trolling shill provaccine side, really is.

  • So once and for all actually prove it? Your failure is obvious, and as well your continued and persistent, delusions.

  • What is actually sad, is how backwards YOU actually have it. You refuse the information, Dr De Memento! You simply can not have that much information against and historically, and still maintain that there is nothing real, that is there.

    The False Foundations of Modern Medicine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-foundations-of-modern-medicine.html

    Pharmakeia (aka sorceries) of Babylon
    http://www.vacfacts.info/pharmakeia-aka-sorceries-of-babylon.html

    The Drug Story-A Factological History Of America’s $10,000,000,000 Drug Cartel, Its Methods, Operations, Hidden Ownership, Profits And Terrific Impact On The Health Of The American People.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-drug-story—the-history-of-modern-medicine.html

  • Rational? Really? Your reply statements have only amounted to continuous and repeated denial of obvious fact and reality.

  • And without any further reply here, you did that? Really? Where is your specific data and that you have provided in regard to that claim? You lying pile of very sick, garbage.

  • But the problem for you is that you admitted to the US risk from countries with said existing endemic polio, traveling here; and they clearly do. Immigration s at an all time high number. So therefore your vaccine derived herd immunity means nothing in regard to polio, and in that millions in the US have not ever been re-vaccinated against polio, since childhood..Your claim has a many holes in it as a five gallon pail shot full of holes with a ten gauge shotgun; and left leaking like a sieve.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re angry, Lowell.

  • Donald Monty

    I already proved it, Lowell.

  • Donald Monty

    Just reposting the same crap.

  • Donald Monty

    Again, you have it backwards.

  • DDT was heavily used just prior to the polio epidemic of the 50’s and 60’s. There was a major change in the diagnosis criteria in regard to polio and in fact that was right before the polio vaccines was in use; thus wiping out at least 30,000 cases of said existing polio, right there on that day and spot in history. That continued to be the case, and all while they disregarded that polio numbers were already in a significant decine prior to the use of the said polio vaccines. The CDC and the WHO only had to fudge the numbers, and continue to, and there well ahh you have the magic of the contaminated and the ineffective polio vaccine.

    If you had followed the replies here you would have realized that the early polio vaccine as well seeded millions of the population with the SV40 tumor causing and cancer causing virus that was derived from African green monkeys in regard to the original polio vaccine. That said SV40 virus is still being isolated and found today in cancers in children to young to have ever had the said previously contaminated polio vaccine. suggesting contagious transmission of SV 40 by horizontal infection; and which has been found in the page of reference information below.

    Scientific proof that the known cancer causing SV40 virus, a previous contaminant in the polio vaccine, is obviously either contagious; or the virus is still in the vaccine/s.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/scientific-proof-that-the-known-cancer-causing-sv40-virus-a-previous-contaminant-in-the-polio-vaccine-is-obviously-either-contagious-or-the-virus-is-still-in-the-vaccines.html

  • Donald Monty

    Hey Einstein, one tip for you is to read the study, not just the abstract. The age range went up to 97.

  • Your junk science study means nothing, and when even the CDC data on the autism diagnosis increases, directly contradicts that study

  • Really? And how is that? Explain it.

  • Actually I posted the direct information as to why you have it backwards, and again you ignored it. You refuse to face YOUR reality, doctor. You might as well just admit it.

  • Donald Monty

    I’m sorry, Lowell. I thought you had some math. So if 1/68 kids have ASD that’s just under 1.5%. I divided 1 by 68 then multiplied by 100. Now if 9.8/1000 adults have ASD, what percentage is that? Don’t cheat! And stop being insulting, Lowell. God only knows what you’d do if you got banned.

  • I have been doing this since 2008, fool. I have as hard a shell as ever can be. You are nothing to me; and the same as the dozens of other trolling vaccine shills I have opposed in reply commenting on articles, before. I am only angry about the vaccine injury harm that goes on and that the CDC/AAP and those working in the pharma industry people like you, entirely deny, and refuse to admit to. Otherwise; you are nothing but just another internet trolling, sick and twisted piece of garbage, in my world; believe me. Your clearly lying and psychotic arse, means nothing to me.

  • Donald Monty

    Well, Lowell, the last time we imported a case of wild-type polio was 1993. We require polio vaccination records for immigrants from endemic areas, and we recommend boosters for U.S. adults traveling to endemic areas.

  • Donald Monty

    After 7 years it’s sad how bad of an anti-vaxxer you are though.

  • Donald Monty

    It doesn’t matter how many times you post the same links when they are just alternative medicine opinion pieces.

  • Donald Monty

    OK this article is crap and my posts are rational. You think this article is factual and I am getting paid to trash it by vaccine manufacturers. Where’s Shawn Siegel BTW?

  • Donald Monty

    If you’re going to claim CDC data on autism contradicts this study show it and explain the contradiction.

  • Donald Monty

    Sigh. You’re reposting the same previously discredited DDT thing. I already told you DDT wasn’t banned in the U.S. until 1972.

  • Dr. Benway

    Just shows how totally unhinged you are.

  • Donald Monty

    I just showed your flawed logic, Lowell.

  • Capt Ron

    But Lowell sure has KOOL sunglasses!

  • AutismDad

    You don’t have to be Einstein to recognize what a load of crap it is to even consider young people as proof older people with autism exist in similar numbers. Its an absolute attempt to lie.

  • Donald Monty

    3/4 of the cases were 40+ years old, and age didn’t correlate to statistical significance with autism prevalence anyway. You should read it sometime!

  • How many times does Vactruth have to ban you, Argus; aka Dr (no identity), Benway? And you just keep circumventing the blocking system and keep getting right back in. So your repeat appearance here, and irregardless, shows directly how actually unhinged and desperate you actually are. Such… hypocrisy.

  • As said and again, they clearly are not opinion pieces; and in fact you obviously as well can not even begin to respond to and nor to refute any of it. What should that tell you; and any readers.

  • I did not ever say you are getting paid for anything here. I think that obviously being in the medical field, that you are just sick and enough and in twisted denial enough, to just keep hating repeatedly on the obvious vaccine truth. Here is a question for you. Have you as well at any time ever reply posted anywhere, under the character name, Costner?

    And what was the question; where is Shawn Siegel? In reference to what? He likely doesn’t waste his time with the mindlessness of people like you.

  • I will never be banned from this site, as a fact. However, that clearly may not be the case, for you.

    The facts are clear and no matter how you try to spin it with some junk science study. The rate of autism has obviously never been 1 in 68 in adults, and nor at any time ever in past generations. Even the CDC in their information and studies, admit to the significant change points and in significantly increased numbers of autism, in recent years.

    http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html

    http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2014/p0327-autism-spectrum-disorder.html

    http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/index.html

    Facts and Statistics

    Prevalence of autism in U.S. children increased by 119.4 percent from 2000 (1 in 150) to 2010 (1 in 68). (CDC, 2014) Autism is the fastest-growing developmental disability. (CDC, 2008)

    Read more:
    http://www.autism-society.org/what-is/facts-and-statistics/

  • You directly avoided the question, and that is not an answer to my statement and question.

  • You can believe whatever you want, but it is clear by past historical accounts, that DDT had a major impact in the development of polio. The term banned in 1972, does not mean that DDT use had not been greatly reduced far before that time. In fact post polio syndrome was not seen and nor known of, until the use of DDT was again resumed for a short time.

    ———–

    Excerpts:

    Paradoxically, early virus studies considered virus filtrates to be a poison, not a microbe, thus the name virus. Today, we know that viruses are information. Now, nearly a half-century later, the validity of Dr. Biskinds work appears even more certain. Again, according to Biskind:
    It was even known by 1945 that DDT is stored in the body fat of mammals and appears in the milk. With this foreknowledge the series of catastrophic events that followed the most intensive campaign of mass poisoning in known human history, should not have surprised the experts. Yet, far from admitting a causal relationship so obvious that in any other field of biology it would be instantly accepted, virtually the entire apparatus of communication, lay and scientific alike, has been devoted to denying, concealing, suppressing, distorting and attempts to convert into its opposite, the overwhelming evidence. Libel, slander and economic boycott have not been overlooked in this campaign.

    The unique correlations between CNS disease and CNS toxins present a variety of research opportunities not only in medical science, but political science, philosophy, media studies, psychology, and sociology.Images of Poliomyelitis: A Critique of Scientific Literature by Jim West

    When DDT was released for civilian use after World War II, it was recognized as effective and generally benign to humans. It was so popular it was even thrown instead of rice at some weddings. Producers of DDT and other new pesticides had the best of all possible worlds. Regulation was limited to concerns about efficacy, not safety……The USDA began to promote widespread spraying with DDT and other pesticides……The USDA knew little about the effects of widespread dispersion of many of the chemicals it promoted and subsidized, partly because Congress directed funds for spraying but not research on environmental impacts. And because federal regulation was aimed at preempting state regulation, the federal government discouraged states and localities from controlling pesticide use. [2001] DDT: An Issue of Property Rights

    [DDT was actually used to combat polio as the man spraying alleys must be doing.] As to the alleged freedom from toxic reactions in the public health usage, here too evidence gathered by Dr. Robert F. Mobbs of North Carolina, indicates that these reactions occur frequently among affected populations but are not attributed to their actual cause. The use of DDT is an effort to stop the spread of poliomyelitis is a case in point. Following a
    recent extensive trip through the South, Dr. Mobbs informed me that wherever DDT had been used intensively against polio, not only was there an epidemic of the syndrome I have described but the incidence of polio continued to rise and in fact appeared where it had not been before. This is not surprising since it is known that not only can DDT poisoning produce a condition that may easily be mistaken for polio in an epidemic but also being a nerve poison itself, may damage cells in the spinal cord and thus increase the susceptibility to the virus. [1950] Statement On Clinical Intoxication From DDT And Other New Insecticides by Morton S. Biskind, M.D.

  • And again and again you continue to evade my direct question, and you know that you have. Millions of adults have remained to be, and have not been re-vaccinated for polio, since their childhood. Where is your vaccine derived herd immunity to polio, and where is it existing?

  • You have already had that question answered; now go answer my question above, and as to where is your vaccine derived herd immunity to polio, and where is that existing? Millions of adult people remain without revaccination, since childhood. I have not been revaccinated for anything in over 4 decades; why I not seeing polio; and if the vaccine was actually responsible for eradication? So again I will ask you; are you actually telling me that vaccine derived herd immunity only involves vaccination of school children, and while thousands and if not millions, are never revaccinated? That is directly what you are telling me.

  • The graph does not show the opposite, and it only has one single year in it with an increase.

  • Now you are even denying what the WHO has stated? Wow. You are even now bad mouthing your own considered bastions of fact information.

  • And how much credibility do you have, and should you be considered to have, as well hiding under a character name?

  • Donald Monty

    They’re off-topic crap opinion pieces.

  • Really? I think it is sad how in denial, dishonest, deceptive, and lying that you need to be, just to continue reply posting in support of vaccines, on this article. How about if you listed your direct conflicts of interest?

  • They are directly right on top and task; liar.

  • Really? Clearly nothing has been discredited. The term banned and singly focusing on that term alone, is your error here, and downfall. The amount and level of use of, and solely focusing on the date DDT was banned, is entirely missing the truth and the reality of what actually took place. Again, Get your face directly into this, do some reading, and actually educate yourself to, and from some unbiased independent information! Take a look at the graphs as well; in relation to what you have stated.

  • Donald Monty

    Yeah Lowell, I’m actually Kevin Costner. Ever see Dances with Wolves? And I hate vaccine lies, which is why I’m here. As for Siegel not defending his own article, what else does he have to do?

  • Donald Monty

    I didn’t say the prevalence of autism was the same in adults and children. And as I’ve said before, when you broaden the definition of a disease and increase screening at the same time, the prevalence is bound to increase.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re just contradicting again.

  • I didn’t say you were Kevin Costner, fool.

    There are some people that choose not to waste their time with in denial fools like you; who for them obviously nothing would ever be enough; and they still must deny it all no matter what. Maybe you should call him and ask for a personal face to face debate, where you can hide behind and under a character name??

    I spend my time here, simply because I believe that you and your lies and deception need to be exposed for what it. That way as well parents and individuals looking to learn and to make correct decisions on vaccines, can really see what the trolling shill vaccine side is actually made of, pure evil.

  • Donald Monty

    There are 195 countries in the world, Lowell. Only 3 of them still have endemic polio. Even someone dumb enough to think polio eradication in the U.S. was due to reduction in DDT usage could not POSSIBLY explain away the effectiveness of polio vaccination in the other 191 countries.

  • Donald Monty

    Ditto.

  • Oh I see, and now its more of your contradictions, time. So then now are you entirely changing your claim; or not? You are still claiming that nothing has changed since the 1940’s and in regard to the rate and numbers of individuals with autism? Go back and follow you claims since Sue asked the question. It would be nice if you would just stop reply posting, and quit being simply a waste of my time.

  • Be sure you read through these articles and don’t miss the graphs. Nothing would be enough, would it, and you must continue to deny it.

    Pesticides and Polio: A Critique of Scientific Literature
    http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/pesticides-and-polio-a-critique-of-scientific-literature/

    Images Of Poliomyelitis
    A Critique Of Scientific Literature
    Pesticides And Polio
    http://www.wellwithin1.com/overview.htm

    Polio in the United States
    Graphic Timeline: U.S. 1870-1998
    http://www.vaclib.org/sites/harpub/pol_all.htm

    7 Trivia Facts About Polio, (check out the graph)
    http://vactruth.com/2012/06/03/7-trivia-facts-about-polio/

    Smoke, Mirrors, and the “Disappearance” Of Polio
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2011/11/17/smoke-mirrors-and-the-disappearance-of-polio/

  • Really? There is nothing to contradict. And that as well is not a direct answer, to my direct question. How many times have you been asked for the answer, and you just keep evading it.

  • You at this point really need to get and be banned from any further reply posting. And you would deserve that. That is all to obvious.

  • Donald Monty

    I guess I’ll have to ask you to prove millions of previously vaccinated U.S. adults are no longer immune to polio, and then ask even if that was so, and we don’t have enough people vaccinated for ideal herd immunity, if you’re living in a country that wiped out endemic polio in 1979, has a 95% childhood vaccination rate, and due to strict immigration protocols hasn’t imported a case of wild-type polio since 1993, and knowing endemic polio is present in only 3 other countries in the world, why would you expect outbreaks here?

  • Donald Monty

    Oh I answered that (again) above. And you never explained what happened to all the polio. You keep saying you did, but you keep referring back to this crappy article, which I’ve taken apart, and through in…DDT and tonsillectomies. What did I miss?

  • Donald Monty

    The number of true polio cases (the solid black bar) went up between 1953 and 1954, when the polio vaccine was introduced. The author said they were declining He lied. Or can’t read a bar graph. Either way he shouldn’t be writing medical articles.

  • Donald Monty

    No conflicts of interest. I just hate anti-vaxxers.

  • Donald Monty

    The topic is polio vaccines.

  • Donald Monty

    Does Siegel really exist? Or is this article just recycled BS that makes the anti-vaccine circuit from time to time?

  • Donald Monty

    Where did I mention the 1940s? Sue (who is also anonymous-doesn’t that bug you?) wanted to know where the adults in their 40s-70s with autism were, and I showed her. And what contradiction are you talking about? I said the adult rate was 1% and the childhood rate was 1.5%.

  • Donald Monty

    You keep posting the same opinion pieces from whack job sites.

  • Donald Monty

    Here, so you don’t have to scroll down:I guess I’ll have to ask you to prove millions of previously vaccinated U.S. adults are no longer immune to polio, and then ask even if that was so, and we don’t have enough people vaccinated for ideal herd immunity, if you’re living in a country that wiped out endemic polio in 1979, has a 95% childhood vaccination rate, and due to strict immigration protocols hasn’t imported a case of wild-type polio since 1993, and knowing endemic polio is present in only 3 other countries in the world, why would you expect outbreaks here?

  • Donald Monty

    You should be banned for insults, intimidation (10 gauge shotgun reference and a 2 part personal attack YouTube video), dodging questions, contradicting instead of debating, constantly going off topic and repeatedly posting the same links.

  • Donald Monty

    What are you talking about?

  • Capt Ron

    Credibility is in valid content, not particularly identity. However, I think you’d be surprised by who I am and who I am NOT. There are no surprises with who you are!

  • AutismDad

    It says nothing about that, just that the age was 16 and up. Bogus science.

  • Donald Monty

    Like I said twice already, read the study not just the abstract. Abstracts are just brief summaries without a lot of detail.

  • And as well you fail and have failed again and again on that level as well. And you as well still have not, and thus you have failed to answer my direct question regarding the existing and current vaccine safety studies, below.

  • Factological history of the standard medical model, showing repeated evidence of corruption and misrepresentation, and combined with the fraud that was committed regarding polio re-diagnosis and as to that major changes that took place; surely and entirely fits to together with as well the generalized fraud and corruption that has existed throughout the entire history of big pharma and the standard medical model. This regard that history and from the beginning, and to the current time. Again you need to be reminded that you are not the moderator of this site, and that you do not dictate to anyone what relevant information, can or can not be posted here.

  • How do you evaluate that autism situation in regard to those age groups, if you do not go back to those said decades, and to look for existing autism in those ages of people? Your twisted and false methodology, madness, and your level of insistent and repeatedly persistent denial, amounts to nothing but literal insanity.

  • So, quite obviously you are a continued waste of time on this site and its articles, and because you repeatedly refuse all forms of independently found informational truth, and any and all real historically recorded information, from specifically those days, and its time period.

  • And like some robotic drone, you continue to re-parrot and repeat the same old false and entirely irrelevant information. Irrelevant that is in regard to the question I raised. Show me any reference that indicates that polio vaccine is stated to provide any alleged protection, beyond 10 years. Most references appear to be uncertain. Show me any reference at all which provides an estimate of how long in duration polio vaccine provides alleged protection?

  • You can continue to believe the fraud of polio vaccine eradication of polio; or you can learn from the independent unbiased information, and accept the truth; your choice.

    Polio Wasn’t Vanquished by Vaccines, It Was Redefined
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/polio-wasnt-vanquished-by-vaccines-it-was-redefined/

    Nicholas Gonzalez, M.D. – Scientifically No Polio Vaccine was Needed
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/nicholas-gonzalez-m-d-scientifically-no-polio-vaccine-was-needed/

    Pesticides and Polio: A Critique of Scientific Literature
    http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/pesticides-and-polio-a-critique-of-scientific-literature/

    Images Of Poliomyelitis
    A Critique Of Scientific Literature
    Pesticides And Polio
    http://www.wellwithin1.com/overview.htm

    DDT is sprayed over Rockford, Illinois to combat polio epidemic. August 27, 1945

    A B-25 bomber is used to spray DDT over Rockford, Illinois during a polio epidemic. Close up of DDT liquid in tank of B-25. View of DDT vapor coming out of pipe. Aerial view of Rockford, Illinois as B-25 sprays town. (the clearly misguided madness, and as DDT is what often triggered polio)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJs1tlTof_s&feature=youtu.be

    Polio in the United States
    Graphic Timeline: U.S. 1870-1998
    http://www.vaclib.org/sites/harpub/pol_all.htm

    7 Trivia Facts About Polio, (check out the graph)
    http://vactruth.com/2012/06/03/7-trivia-facts-about-polio/

    Smoke, Mirrors, and the “Disappearance” Of Polio
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2011/11/17/smoke-mirrors-and-the-disappearance-of-polio/

  • Donald Monty

    Again the more accurate diagnostic criteria weeded out non-polio cases and were based on those of the Salk vaccine field trials. Not fraud, not corruption, not conspiracy. And it came from the author’s very first reference and blows the whole article right out of the water.

  • Donald Monty

    What Sue asked and what the study looked at was present day adult autism rates. If the researchers had a time machine they could go back to the 1940s I suppose.

  • Donald Monty

    If you posted some credible evidence instead of opinion pieces from anti-vaccine whack job sites I’d be happy to debate it.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re dodging again, Lowell. You claim millions of U.S. adults are no longer immune to polio. Prove it.

  • You failed to answer the question I put to you. I do not need to prove anything. You need to show and better yet prove that vaccine derived herd immunity exists, and you have not done that. That was the original question I put to you; where is your vaccine derived herd immunity to polio; considering that no adults other than perhaps those traveling outside the US, have ever been revaccinated. Common sense tells you and/or should tell you that the vaccine derived herd immunity I asked you about, certainly does not exist. How do you explain that polio has never returned? The only explanation would be that polio vaccine never eradicated polio in the first place. Quit playing games and answer the question. You can’t and you know you can’t.

  • Again historically recorded information and data put together by those that lived at the time, is NOT an opinion piece. You are actually the whack job, quite clearly. That is the only thing that the term truly applies to here.

  • I am entirely aware of that the statement was, and as well what the question was that was put to you. And you simply put forth nothing but a junk science study, stated yourself only more misinformation, and then simply walked away without actually answering to the said issue.

  • You are like a broken record playing over and over, with nothing playing but more of the same old, same old repeat statements that you had previously made in denial. Nothing would be enough, ever. You simply refuse to be wrong.

  • Wake up!

  • You are full of nothing but twisted, BS. 10 gauge shot gun referred to a container shot full of holes, and in comparison to the holes in your claims. Videos, absolutely nothing but the truth is in them. You do not dictate what is reply posted on and nor here on this sites articles. You need some of that reference material reposted because you repeatedly ignore it all, and/or missed it. Intimidation? LOL. You are pathetic.

  • You said these vaccines are effective; so being you are the self proclaimed expert, prove it and with the reference material that I asked you for. Clearly the reference material makes the claim that polio vaccine is only effective at best for a short time in years. It is obviously not effective, for life. You said polio vaccines eradicated polio, and keeps it polio from coming back. I asked you to show proof of that, and clearly you failed. Then you turn around and just because you can not deliver the answer to my question, you expect me to do and provide the research for you; that I asked you for, and that you failed to provide? That is a bit beyond twisted, don’t you think; and if not outright hypocrisy.

  • Do you mean the information that you can not even in any honesty, respond to? I see.

  • You do not dictate what the vaccine subject matter is here, and nor what vaccines issues are reply posted on. Don’t like it, then leave.

  • No conflicts of interest? And you actually think and expect that anyone would ever believe that? Your lying.

  • Are you confused by choice, or by just your own error?

  • And you are actually that lost? You never answered, to anything at all. Refusing all information is the only way you can operate.

  • No evidence and nor proof, ever. That is all you ever have.

  • So now you are even denying what your study showed?

  • Donald Monty

    You’re just ranting again.

  • Donald Monty

    If you’re going to continually try to change the subject rather than debate the lack of credibility of this article I will point it out.

  • Donald Monty

    If you’d stop posting the same nonsense I’ve already disproven I wouldn’t have to keep disproving it.

  • Donald Monty

    How do you mean?

  • Donald Monty

    Again, she asked where the adults with autism were and I posted a study showing her. You just keep saying I didn’t.

  • Donald Monty

    Post something worth responding to. I don’t think you have anything.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re being insulting again.

  • Donald Monty

    You made an absurd claim. I asked you to prove it. You dodged again and asked me to disprove it. It doesn’t work that way. So prove there are millions of previously vaccinated adults in the U.S. who are no longer immune to polio.

  • Donald Monty

    I’ve already told you why even if we don’t have a 95% adult immunity rate, which you haven’t proven anyway, we are still unlikely to have outbreaks. Briefly, again, we wiped out endemic polio here in 1979 through our vaccination program, we have a 95% childhood vaccination rate, we revaccinate people traveling to endemic areas, we require vaccination for people traveling here from endemic areas, there are only 3 countries left in the world with endemic polio and we haven’t imported a case since 1993.

  • Donald Monty

    How many guns do you own, Lowell? Are you allowed legally to have them?

  • Donald Monty

    Again, you claimed there are millions of U.S. adults who are no longer immune to polio. I asked you to prove it and knowing you can’t you dodged the question and asked me to disprove it. It doesn’t work that way.

  • Donald Monty

    Again, you have it backwards.

  • Donald Monty

    Neither. I can read a bar graph is all.

  • Donald Monty

    You don’t know what you were talking about? You go off topic so much I really don’t know. What did I deny that the WHO stated?

  • Donald Monty

    Or you can be rational like most people and believe in germ theory.

  • AutismDad

    Even using a small number born since the 80’s-90’s is dishonest because they ARE NOT in the range this bogus study implies. A study like this should be strict to be meaningful. By intention it is not.

  • AutismDad

    Next time you you read it count how many words like suppose, imply, suggest or may etc it has in the text. Also TRY to find the word proof, or undeniably etc.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re the one criticizing it-you count em.

  • Donald Monty

    The study wasn’t done to show anything other than the rate of autism in adults. If you find a study you think is better about the current autism rate in adults link to it.

  • AutismDad

    As I thought, too mentally lazy.

  • AutismDad

    Hey you want a better study, find it then.

  • Donald Monty

    You really don’t have anything, do you?

  • Donald Monty

    Ditto.

  • AutismDad

    Who has REPLICATED this study?? If it can’t or hasn’t been replicated its meaningless.

  • AutismDad

    What do you have besides the gall to think you are right?

  • AutismDad

    Kick his backside Lowell….oops thats his face….my bad

  • AutismDad

    DR DUH strikes again!

  • AutismDad

    Another DUH MOMENT. You’ve got nothing. Yea if you alter definitions and twist evidence you can make facts appear and disappear. Whats your point??

  • AutismDad

    How is autism defined? It there a known virus or a blood test? NO, so how can rates be accurate? Just like every boy seems to be labelled ADD or ADHD because he has energy and isn’t great in school, how do thousands of doctors coordinate the process of defining autism accurately?

  • AutismDad

    Comprehension level…. ZERO

  • AutismDad

    That all you’ve got?? Why do the genius act when you are a dumb-ass then??

  • Donald Monty

    Dodge.

  • Donald Monty

    That’s absurd.

  • Donald Monty

    Another personal attack.

  • Donald Monty

    Personal attacks=all you have.

  • Donald Monty

    Exactly what I posted. Maybe these concepts are too difficult for you?

  • Donald Monty

    Personal attacks are all you’ve got, apparently.

  • AutismDad

    B.S. is your concept.

  • AutismDad

    Replication is key. it must replicate in every nation worldwide.

  • AutismDad

    Ford

  • Ruth

    The CDC are liars and manipulators? Same thing with the Flu ‘pandemic’ too. They really need to ‘face the music’ and ‘clean house’. Not that I think that’s going to happen. Disease – just like religion is really a means of controlling people. Works well.

  • You have to believe in the false germ theory, Donald so called Monty, because if you ever realized that Antoine Bechamp’s findings and teachings were correct; all of pharmaceutical so called medicine, would be mostly and if not entirely finished. You would actually have to learn the real basis of physiologically based health, and practice actual health care; which would obviously never be a and the billion dollar industry of profits, that exist today. It is all about the total control of information, and big profits.

    The False Foundations of Modern Medicine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-foundations-of-modern-medicine.html

    The Real History of Modern Medicine
    Origins of Medical Industry Corruption
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-real-history-of-modern-medicine.html

    The Drug Story-A Factological History Of America’s $10,000,000,000 Drug Cartel, Its Methods, Operations, Hidden Ownership, Profits And Terrific Impact On The Health Of The American People.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-drug-story—the-history-of-modern-medicine.html

  • All you have proven is to be a liar and in which clearly as well has exposed in that and repeatedly as well your own repeat denial and endless nonsense.

  • He is more real, than you ever will be.

  • Your study was shown to be junk science. You continue to claim that there has been no increase in autism numbers, much more a major increase; and you were clearly proven wrong; face it.

  • And again you just reparrot over and over again, the same old irrelevant garbage. Obviously you can not achieve so called vaccine derived herd immunity by just vaccinating school children and the few people traveling to potentially endemic areas. Again, where does your so called vaccine derived herd immunity, exist? Be it in regard to polio, or anything else.

  • Guns are an irrelevant issue. How about you answer the question as to what is your real identity?

  • Provide me a source of reference from anywhere at all that states polio vaccine provides increased and sufficient antibody immunity for longer than ten years, and with any certainty? Likely less than that. So your assumptions are based on an unproven hope that polio vaccine provides immunity for life; which simply is and obviously preposterous.

  • You again refused and ignored every bit of the counter information that was put to you. that is all you accomplished here. There is nothing to get backwards.

  • Your lying. The only thing you have shown is your repeat refusal of logical and factual information.

  • Donald Monty

    Oh, Lowell, we’ve been through the Bechamp thing already. Where are those microzymes of his again? Oh yeah, they don’t exist. So he was wrong.

  • Donald Monty

    And you’re back to personal attacks and ranting.

  • Donald Monty

    Well I’m here. Where is he? He isn’t even listed as a writer for this site.

  • Donald Monty

    I never said there was no increase in autism numbers, I’ve said many times when you increase screening for a disease and broaden the definition the numbers will go up. You appear to be not comprehending this thread.

  • Donald Monty

    “Obviously you can not achieve so called vaccine derived herd immunity by just vaccinating school children and the few people traveling to potentially endemic areas.”
    Obviously we have. Where’s all the polio, Lowell?

  • Donald Monty

    My BigPharma overlords cannot allow that to happen, Lowell.

  • Donald Monty

    Ditto.

  • Donald Monty

    Yet you have managed to do it.

  • Donald Monty

    You never post anything factual, Lowell. Just opinion.

  • Really. And that is the typical and only answer that you can come up with is the false claim that you addressed it. Then you simply ignore that the question was actually answered in a previous reply. You had to entirely ignore that, and then just turn right around again as if nothing was ever there. That is a bit curious, as that is exactly the same way the character name Costner, used to operate. Are you twins?

  • No actually I am just presenting you with the truth. Can’t you handle being shown and told the truth? Obviously not.

    Again. Go ahead and tell me why you think this information is wrong. Go get one of your brain science experts to do it. Why have none of them ever been able to refute this information? I will tell you why. Because this is the most accurately exposed information as to vaccine injury that has ever existed. They silence, and intentionally and personally destroy doctors like this. Why would that be necessary, if the information was and is, incorrect?

    Vaccine injuries, Dr. Andrew Moulden, Conférence Liberté de Choix en Santé, Montréal, 12 sept. 2009
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Pb2gqbkyk&list=PL7-UPmbfdnB-j6KqDiXT3Bzha320G0SPo

  • Donald Monty

    Your previous answer about microzymes, which Bechamp claimed he observed throughout the human body with an ancient microscope, was that in the last century no one else has looked for them. That’s a laughable defense.

  • Donald Monty

    And now another off-topic YouTube video.

  • Your question was answered directly. Obviously you have a selective reading comprehension problem, and issue. Just because additional information that you refuse to face and deal with was added, does not mean anything was ever drifted from, and nor ever evaded and for a direct answer.

    You are the one who is actually evading and drifting off topic; and just because you refused to accept the previous information and the direct answer that you received. So then you simply attempt to twist it in another direction, and with other mindless, uneducated, and irrelevant questions.

    Your game here is to over and over repeatedly ask the same question and that was clearly answered in a prior post between us. If you are to inept to actually read your replies, and/or if you choose to ignore them; then that is your problem; and not mine.

    As to the subject matter, we were not talking about any electron microscope; were talking about live cell blood microscopy; which is an entirely different thing and issue.

    And are you really that inept in your physiological understandings, that you think an electron microscope has the ability to examine and study the entire human body? How is an electron microscope ever seeing the same things that today’s highly advanced systems of live blood cells microscopy? And you are actually serious and as to your obvious and selective ignorance?

    Perhaps this video made will explain some of this to you a bit better.

    Vaccine Truth…How Does It Get Better, Than This?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgBjTPvVWNc

    And here is a bonus video, for you.

    Gardasil, and the real truth about vaccines
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s2yxAVVcEo

    The False Foundations of Modern Medicine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-foundations-of-modern-medicine.html

  • So, again you are making twisted and false excuses in your refusal to face vaccine reality. Again, you refuse to directly answer my above question, and in regard to the information. Oh, but again it is not pro-vaccine information; and so you must ignore it.

  • Doesn’t matter. Don’t you ever actually read your previous replies? Oh, you read them, but ignore them? And why would he want to waste his time with the lying and persistent denial, and persisting willful ignorance of someone like you? You can not even effectively debate me right here, and any much more even begin to debate him. Do they have a vaccine for your delusional disorder? You should call Merck directly and ask that they develop one.

    Shawn Seigel is not listed as a writer for this site? You are talking about Vactruth? Really? You were just reply commenting in his article which is the previous article to this one? This is as well not the first article he has written. Perhaps you should get together with your vaccine shill replying shift manager at that medical shill house in Wisconsin, and fire the person who made that said reply? LOL.

    The CDC Made These Two Radical Changes and 30,000 Diagnoses of Polio Instantly Disappeared
    http://vactruth.com/2015/07/05/cdc-made-polio-disappear/

    Shawn Siegel – The Vaccine Myth-An Issue of Trust
    http://vaccine-injury.info/trust.cfm

    You refuse to get honest and truthful with this issue; and you keep replying with more of your twisted questions and irrelevant and ridiculous claims; so then I will give you another issue. .

    Shingles Vaccine (John Bergman)
    Learn the truth about the shingles vaccine!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkn0x5Kx2OY

    Varicella and Shingles Vaccine – For Profit Quackery
    http://www.vacfacts.info/varicella-and-shingles-vaccine—for-profit-quackery.html

    History Repeats Itself: Lessons Vaccinators Refuse to Learn, by Jennifer Craig, PhD
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/04/17/history-repeats-itself-lessons-the-vaccinationists-refuse-to-learn-by-jennifer-craig-phd/

  • Hey, Donald Monty. Check this out!

    India Still Reporting Cases of Polio-like Acute Flaccid Paralysis

    India’s Ministry of Health and Family Welfare has reported that it has investigated approximately 18,000 cases of Acute Flaccid Paralysis (AFP) in the country since January 2015 as part of its national polio surveillance program, established in 1997, and that all of the cases have tested negative for poliovirus. Some 50,000 cases of AFP are being detected annually in India.1 2

    According to a press release issued by the Ministry:

    India is polio-free. The country reported its last case of wild poliovirus in 2011. After three consecutive polio-free years, the South-East Asia Region of WHO, comprising of 11 countries (including India), was certified polio-free on 27 March 2014. Despite this progress, India has maintained a high vigil and ensured that no complacency sets in order to maintain the polio-free status for the last more than 4 years. It has taken appropriate actions to ensure high population immunity against polio as well as for maintaining a sensitive surveillance system for poliovirus detection.1

    Following two decades of repeated child vaccination campaigns using OPV in India, the World Health Organization (WHO) in early 2014 pronounced India “free” of wild-type polio. The controversial declaration comes at a time when India has been experiencing a huge increase in reported cases of non-polio AFP (NPAFP).3

    In 2004, 12,000 cases of non-polio paralysis were reported but that number had increased by 2012 to 53,563 cases for a national rate of 12 per 100,000 children. Two pediatricians in India compiled data from the polio surveillance program and discovered a link between the increase in OPV use among children during stepped-up polio eradication campaigns and the increasing cases of NPAFP among children.

    In a 2012 article published in a medical ethics journal,4 the doctors stated, “Clinically indistinguishable from polio paralysis but twice as deadly, the incidence of NPAFP was directly proportional to doses of oral polio received.” Because polio is among the more than 200 related viruses in the Picornaviridae family of enteroviruses, the doctors suggested that public health officials investigate “the influence of strain shifts of enteropathogens induced by the [polio] vaccine given practically every month.”

    Although not nearly as prevalent as in India, NPAFP cases are also occurring in the U.S. In early 2014, neurologists at Stanford and University of California reported five cases of sudden paralysis of one or more limbs in children ages two to 16—all fully vaccinated against polio—and the California Department of Health of Health began investigating 20 more similar cases. Two of the five children tested positive for enterovirus-68 (EV68).5

    During the summer of 2014, many more apparently healthy American children in several states, including Colorado, Missouri, Michigan and Massachusetts, were reported to be suddenly stricken with paralysis after developing cold and flu-like symptoms. Several died and, although some of the cases were associated with EV68, others were not.6

    Like polio, other enteroviruses are transmitted through shedding of virus in respiratory and gastrointestinal body secretions. Most of the time an enterovirus infection is asymptomatic or there are mild flu-like symptoms that do not progress to paralysis or other serious complications.7 Rarely enterovirus infections like EV68 will cause inflammation of the brain (meningitis, encephalitis), paralysis and death.

    The exact cause of the cases of NPAFP among children in California, most of whom were born after 1999 and presumably were given shots of inactivated polio vaccine (IAV), has not been determined. Similarly in India, there has been no determination by government health officials about why there has been a recent dramatic increase in paralysis among tens of thousands of children that country.

    Source:
    http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2015/07/india-still-reporting-cases-of-polio-like-acute-flaccid-paralysis/

    India Still Reporting Cases of Polio-like Acute Flaccid Paralysis
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/india-still-reporting-cases-of-polio-like-acute-flaccid-paralysis/

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign
    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

    Infectious Agents and Cancer

    Review Open Access, (excerpts)

    To date, the prevalence of SV40 infections in humans is not known. Recent studies, based on PCR and serological techniques, indicate that SV40 infection occurs both in children and adults. (i) SV40 DNA sequences have been detected in normal and neoplastic tissues of people either too young (1 to 30 years) or too old (60 to 85 years) to have been vaccinated with SV40-contaminated anti-polio vaccines [19,33,76-81]. This finding may also explain the lack of difference in cancer incidence between individuals vaccinated with SV40-contaminated and SV40-free anti-polio vaccines [82]. (ii) SV40 sequences and Tag were detected in blood and sperm specimens from normal individuals and oncologic patients [80,81,83-88] and in lymphoblastoid cells [32]. These results suggest that (peripheral blood mononuclear cells) PBMCs, could be a reservoir and vehicle of SV40 spreading in the tissues of the host and among the individuals. (iii) SV40 sequences were found in urine and stoole samples, from children and adults [84,89,90], indicating that the haematic, sexual and orofecal routes of transmission are likely to be responsible for SV40 horizontal infection in humans.

    Read more:
    http://www.infectagentscancer.com/content/2/1/13

    Scientific proof that the known cancer causing SV40 virus, a previous contaminant in the polio vaccine, is obviously either contagious; or the virus is still in the vaccine/s.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/scientific-proof-that-the-known-cancer-causing-sv40-virus-a-previous-contaminant-in-the-polio-vaccine-is-obviously-either-contagious-or-the-virus-is-still-in-the-vaccines.html

    You ready to go after me, yet? I as well have a reply to that. I see that my site has been messed with today as well, after never having had a problem with it. Blacking out my page drop down titles? Looks a bit fishy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z8Nm1p9Q_g

  • Donald Monty

    Live blood cell analysis is a scam and the quacks who use it certainly never found microzymes.

  • Donald Monty

    Thanks, Lowell. Glad to see there’s still no evidence of wild-type polio in India thanks to the vaccination program. And it looks like non-polio AFP cases are declining there. That’s great news!

  • Donald Monty

    I’m not going to waste my time with your anti-vax opinion pieces. Post something worth responding to.

  • Donald Monty

    Oh there are articles with his name attached but he isn’t in the list of authors the site advertises. I just wonder if he wrote any of them. And as poorly as you defend the BS he reportedly wrote I’d think if he was real he’d be here.

  • That certainly is not what this is showing in regard to those AFP numbers. But you know just as long as that information and those AFP numbers never get revealed in the worlds major media sources which are all controlled through large amounts medical advertising money; the world will never be any the wiser, right? Again polio vaccine will be the magic savior water, and all other harm it has done will be ignored. Nothing ever changes, now does it.

    This is actually a very damning report; and you clearly again refuse to see and acknowledge that.

  • Donald Monty

    What is damning about it?

  • You actually wouldn’t have a clue what they have found; and what would they find if they really wanted to look, and with the standard medical model? All you are doing is reading and listening to the QUACKS that must deny that this actually is the key to real understanding of human physiology, and health care. But then you know what; to realize that then they would need to actually start and in the process of produce real cures and to teach real understanding of the true life force of the human body and which is found in the human blood. You will remain in your selective ignorance and forever, by your own choice.

    What changes in the blood found after vaccination and by the currently existing form of live cell blood microscopy, would be so shocking that it would likely that in itself enough to shut down the entire vaccine program; and if they were ever to directly look at that issue.

    To admit to any of this would point directly to how backwards so called modern medicine and its standard medical model really is. You simply are not going to do that, and nothing would be enough, ever.

  • Until you can see in your mind that there is no way that those cases of AFP were not caused by the enterovirus contamination in the OPV vaccines; and in which clearly the numbers of AFP cases in India increased and directly parallel to the numbers of OPV pushed and used in that country; then nothing further can be gained as to your understanding of the matter. Go ahead and tell me why they can not and have not determined the source of those AFP causing enteroviruses? It is obviously because they are not looking.

  • Donald Monty

    Who has reported microzymes with live blood cell analysis?

  • Donald Monty

    Your buddy Barbara says they only found 18,000 cases in India in the first half of the year compared to an annual average of 50,000. How is that an increase? And what about the U.S. cases? We don’t use OPV.

  • Those previous 50,000 cases did not just disappear, they still exist, and or the persons died. And those 18,000 cases of AFP are and just mean nothing to you? Less cases as well do not point to the OPV not being the direct cause. The US doesn’t any longer use OPV of course because of the known risks it created.

  • Irrelevant question; and as I said, that question was already answered previously, and with a reference. Get to directly addressing the statements I made, above. Present with your argument and any refute that you have in regard to that information.

  • Donald Monty

    Your last desperate attempt to prove the existence of microzymes, and thus Bechamp’s theory, was live blood cell analysis. So telling us who found microzymes with live blood cell analysis isn’t irrelevant-it’s integral. So who did?

  • Donald Monty

    Paralysis is terrible. Wouldn’t wish it on anyone. So let’s just finish off polio in those last 3 countries! Glad you’re on board.

  • And you are really that evil and heartless, that you can ignore at least 68, 000 cases of acute flaccid paralysis, and directly and clearly were caused by the use of OPV vaccine. Oh hey, but at least they can not call it polio? It has a different name; and you can prove that we caused it. See, polio is gone. What a miracle the vaccine holy water is, and lets praise again the vaccine Goliath, big pharma.

  • So what you are telling me is that just because the standard medical model of so called modern medicine has never accepted the principal, that it all does not exist? Imagine that; modern medicine actually denying the means to the understanding of true physiologically based health care?

    Pleomorphism
    http://www.sun-nation.org/merkl-pleomorphism.html

    Pleomorphism
    http://www.normanallan.com/Sci/pleomorphism.htm

    What is Pleomorphism?
    http://www.life-sources.com/pages/What-is-Pleomorphism%3F.html

    Louis Pasteur Vs Antoine Béchamp and The Germ Theory of Disease Causation – 1
    http://www.laleva.org/eng/2004/05/louis_pasteur_vs_antoine_bchamp_and_the_germ_theory_of_disease_causation_1.html

    Antoine Bechamp
    French biologist
    1816 – 1908
    THE DREAM AND LIE OF LOUIS PASTEUR
    http://arizonaenergy.org/BodyEnergy/antoine_bechamp.htm

    Microzyme:
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Microzyme

    http://mx1.kmle.com/search.php?Search=microzyme

    Zymotic disease
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zymotic_disease

    Why we don’t cure
    By Dr Patrick Quanten MD

    Excerpt:

    In the second half of the nineteenth century a French scientist, Antoine Béchamps, had given a rational, scientific explanation of the origin, growth and life activities of germs and of the normal living cells of vegetable, animal and human bodies. He became a Professor and taught at the University of Montpellier and the famous Sorbonne in Paris, where he was able to demonstrate, as early as 1864, that cells and germs are not the smallest individual living organisms, as taught by Pasteur and his followers. He called these organisms “microzymes”. All cells and germs – bacteria, viruses, parasites, moulds as well as cells from complex structures – are associations of these microzymes. The physical characteristics and vital activities of cells and germs depend upon the soil in which their microzymes feed, grow and multiply. The higher the quality of the “soil” the higher developed the cell will be. Microzymes that grow in fertile procreative soil will form highly complex cells. The same microzymes feeding on morbid material, living and multiplying in poisonous conditions will develop into organisms of the lower order – bacteria, viruses, parasites.

    Read more:
    http://freespace.virgin.net/ahcare.qua/literature/science/dontcure.html

    Bions, Protocells, Biogenesis, Pleomorphism,
    Live-Blood Microscopy and Genetics
    http://www.orgonelab.org/cart/xbions.htm

    The Rockefellers, The Flexner Report, The AMA, and their Effect on Alternative Nutritional (botanical) Medicine
    https://hemphealer.wordpress.com/2012/03/01/the-rockefellers-the-flexnor-report-the-ama-and-their-effect-on-alternative-nutritional-botanical-medicine/

    The Flexner Report’s Stranglehold on Health Care
    http://caps.fool.com/Blogs/the-flexner-reports/296341

    The Impact of the Flexner Report on the
    Fate of Medical Schools in North America After 1909
    http://www.jpands.org/vol8no2/hiattext.pdf

    The History of the AMA
    http://www.cancertruth.net/ama-history/

    Germ Theory Of Disease Is One Of The
    False Foundations Of Modern Medicine
    Joyce Marshall, N.D., Ph.D.
    http://www.mednat.org/FalseFoundation.pdf

    Vaccination Efficacy: Is the Louis Pasteur Germ Theory Wrong?
    http://www.healingourchildren.org/vaccines-vaccination-is-a-complete-fallacy-louis-pasteur-germ-theory-is-wrong/

    Germ Theory of Disease Causation
    http://www.tuberose.com/Germ_Theory.html

    The Enzyme Treatment of Cancer and Its Scientific Basis
    http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/books.htm

    The Science of Cellular Health
    Worldwide Studies and Research

    The following is a list of important Clinical Studies that document the paramount importance of micronutrients and nutrition in maintaining optimum health.

    http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/NHC/researcharchive.html#cancer

    The False Foundations of Modern Medicine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-foundations-of-modern-medicine.html

    Death by Medicine
    By Gary Null, PhD; Carolyn Dean MD, ND; Martin Feldman, MD; Debora Rasio, MD; and Dorothy Smith, PhD
    http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/aug2006_report_death_01.htm

    The Drug Story-A Factological History Of America’s $10,000,000,000 Drug Cartel, Its Methods, Operations, Hidden Ownership, Profits And Terrific Impact On The Health Of The American People.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-drug-story—the-history-of-modern-medicine.html

    The Real History of Modern Medicine
    Origins of Medical Industry Corruption
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-real-history-of-modern-medicine.html

    It is all there; deny it all you want.

  • Real physiologically based scientific data and studies, are not just opinion. Just because of your refusal to educate yourself, and as to and in regard to your refusal to accept independent and unbiased information; certainly do not make your claims to be thus indisputable, and nor thus standing as proven facts.

    VacFacts
    http://www.vacfacts.info/

  • Donald Monty

    Lowell, you know non-polio AFP is not “directly and clearly…caused by OPV”. It’s just another personal belief of yours.

  • Donald Monty

    So you posted 23 links. But where are Bechamp’s microzymes?

  • Donald Monty

    Ditto.

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    I don’t believe the case definition was changed.

    Up to date has the following to say about polio transmission during the first half of the 20th century. It was actually increasing in incidence with increasing epidemic rates due to improving sanitation. See

    POLIOVIRUS AND POLIOMYELITIS

    Epidemiology — The polio epidemics that occurred in the first half of the 20th century in the United States were, ironically, a result of improved sanitation. Prior to 1900 in the United States, polio was endemic. Most infants were infected with poliovirus before age six months. While some developed infantile paralysis, many were protected by maternal antibodies and had inapparent infections, resulting in widespread immunity in American children. Improved sanitation led to many less infants being exposed to poliovirus, creating a large pool of susceptible individuals. When exposure occurred later and the individuals were not protected by maternal antibodies, there were polio epidemics.

    Similarly, polio was endemic in less industrialized areas of the world well into the 20th century. As sanitation and hygiene improved in these countries, they too began to experience epidemics of poliomyelitis [2,3].
    Abstracts for References 2 and 3

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    Poliomyelitis in 1981
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    World Health Organization
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    Wkly Epidemiol Rec. 1982; 57:305.

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    Selective primary health care: strategies for control of disease in the developing world. IX. Poliomyelitis.
    AU
    Robbins FC, Nightingale EO
    SO
    Rev Infect Dis. 1983;5(5):957.

    Poliomyelitis is an acute viral disease primarily afflicting children. It can be very mild, permanently crippling, or fatal. In the developed nations, poliomyelitis is controlled by the use of trivalent vaccines: killed virus administered by injection and/or attenuated virus administered orally. The latter is cheaper. A combination of the two may be required in some tropical countries. In many developing nations poliomyelitis remains endemic and prevalent, especially in children; 37,747 cases were reported to the World Health Organization in 1979, but greater than 200,000 cases probably occurred. Socioeconomic improvement and public health measures (i.e., immunizations) remain the major strategies for control. While global eradication may be a more distant goal, poliomyelitis could be controlled better. Effective programs for control include safe, efficacious, and inexpensive vaccines; methods for successful management of vaccine delivery systems; commitment and training of health personnel; public education; commitment of funds; and research to improve vaccines and their delivery. The major obstacle to control of poliomyelitis is failure to immunize an adequate number of susceptible children. Development of strategies for immunization is crucial to elimination of poliomyelitis as a major world health problem.
    AD
    PMID
    6635429

    The first major United States outbreak of polio was in 1916, during which 6000 people died and 27,000 were paralyzed. Epidemics continued to occur every few years and to grow. In 1952, there were 57,000 reported cases of polio [4,5]. This number included paralytic, nonparalytic, and unspecified cases; paralytic cases peaked at over 21,000 that year [6]. Many of the nonparalytic and unspecified cases were due to other enteroviruses, mainly the echoviruses and coxsackieviruses.

    Abstracts for References 4 and 5

    4

    Modlin JF. Poliovirus. In: Mandell, Douglas, and Bennett’s Principles and Practice of Infectious Diseases, 6th ed, Mandell GL, Bennett JE, Dolin R (Eds), Elsevier, Philadelphia 2005. p.2141.

    no abstract available
    5
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    Happy 50th birthday, Salk vaccine.
    AU
    Mitka M
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    JAMA. 2005;293(13):1581.

    AD
    PMID
    15811967
    The differential diagnosis is quite difficult.

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    Aseptic meningitis is a symptom not a separate disease…..

    From up to date…..

    NONPOLIO ENTEROVIRUSES CAUSING ACUTE FLACCID PARALYSIS — Like poliovirus, nonpolio enteroviruses usually produce infections that are clinically inapparent, but they may invade the central nervous system. Although aseptic meningitis is the most common central nervous system manifestation of enteroviruses (followed by encephalitis), acute flaccid paralysis has been found to be caused by coxsackieviruses and echoviruses in the Soviet Union, Scotland, and South Africa [24,35-41].

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    Not at all accurate….there are several different enteroviruses implicated in cases of flaccid paralysis….

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    Most of the “increase” of autism is probably explained by increased surveillance as well as a shifting of diagnostic criteria. Other developmental disabilities show evidence of decreasing incidence while autism diagnostic rates have shown increases. See the following references from up to date.

    Epidemiology of pervasive developmental disorders.
    AU
    Fombonne E
    SO
    Pediatr Res. 2009;65(6):591.

    This article reviews the results of 43 studies published since 1966 that provided estimates for the prevalence of pervasive developmental disorders (PDDs), including autistic disorder, Asperger disorder, PDD not otherwise specified, and childhood disintegrative disorder. The prevalence of autistic disorder has increased in recent surveys and current estimates of prevalence are around 20/10,000, whereas the prevalence for PDD not otherwise specified is around 30/10,000 in recent surveys. Prevalence of Asperger disorder is much lower than that for autistic disorder and childhood disintegrative disorder is a very rare disorder with a prevalence of about 2/100,000. Combined all together, recent studies that have examined the whole spectrum of PDDs have consistently provided estimates in the 60-70/10,000 range, making PDD one of the most frequent childhood neurodevelopmental disorders. The meaning of the increase in prevalence in recent decades is reviewed. There is evidence that the broadening of the concept, the expansion of diagnostic criteria, the development of services, and improved awareness of the condition have played a major role in explaining this increase, although it cannot be ruled out that other factors might have also contributed to that trend.
    AD
    Department of Psychiatry, Montreal Children’s Hospital of the McGill University Health Centre, Montreal, Quebec, Canada. [email protected]
    PMID
    19218885
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    Systematic review of prevalence studies of autism spectrum disorders.
    AU
    Williams JG, Higgins JP, Brayne CE
    SO
    Arch Dis Child. 2006;91(1):8.

    AIM: To quantitatively examine the influence of study methodology and population characteristics on prevalence estimates of autism spectrum disorders.
    METHODS: Electronic databases and bibliographies were searched and identified papers evaluated against inclusion criteria. Two groups of studies estimated the prevalence of typical autism and all autism spectrum disorders (ASD). The extent of variation among studies and overall prevalence were estimated using meta-analysis. The influence of methodological factors and population characteristics on estimated prevalence was investigated using meta-regression and summarised as odds ratios (OR).
    RESULTS: Forty studies met inclusion criteria, of which 37 estimated the prevalence of typical autism, and 23 the prevalence of all ASD. A high degree of heterogeneity among studies was observed. The overall random effects estimate of prevalence across studies of typical autism was 7.1 per 10,000 (95% CI 1.6 to 30.6) and of all ASD was 20.0 per 10,000 (95% CI 4.9 to 82.1). Diagnostic criteria used (ICD-10 or DSM-IV versus other; OR = 3.36, 95% CI 2.07 to 5.46), age of the children screened (OR = 0.91 per year, 95% CI 0.83 to 0.99), and study location (e.g. Japan versus North America; OR = 3.60, 95% CI 1.73 to 7.46) were all significantly associated with prevalence of typical autism. Diagnostic criteria, age of the sample, and urban or rural location were associated with estimated prevalence of all ASD.
    CONCLUSIONS: Sixty one per cent of the variation in prevalence estimates of typical autism was explained by these models. Diagnostic criteria used, age of children screened, and study location may be acting as proxies for other study characteristics and require further investigation.
    AD
    Department of Public Health and Primary Care, University of Cambridge, UK. [email protected]
    PMID
    15863467
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    The epidemiology and global burden of autism spectrum disorders.
    AU
    Baxter AJ, Brugha TS, Erskine HE, Scheurer RW, Vos T, Scott JG
    SO
    Psychol Med. 2014 Aug;

    BACKGROUND: Autism spectrum disorders (ASDs) are persistent disabling neurodevelopmental disorders clinically evident from early childhood. For the first time, the burden of ASDs has been estimated for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2010 (GBD 2010). The aims of this study were to develop global and regional prevalence models and estimate the global burden of disease of ASDs. Method A systematic review was conducted for epidemiological data (prevalence, incidence, remission and mortality risk) of autistic disorder and other ASDs. Data were pooled using a Bayesian meta-regression approach while adjusting for between-study variance to derive prevalence models. Burden was calculated in terms of years lived with disability (YLDs) and disability-adjusted life-years (DALYs), which are reported here by world region for 1990 and 2010.
    RESULTS: In 2010 there were an estimated 52 million cases of ASDs, equating to a prevalence of 7.6 per 1000 or one in 132 persons. After accounting for methodological variations, there was no clear evidence of a change in prevalence for autistic disorder or other ASDs between 1990 and 2010. Worldwide, there was little regional variation in the prevalence of ASDs. Globally, autistic disorders accounted for more than 58 DALYs per 100��000 population and other ASDs accounted for53 DALYs per 100��000.
    CONCLUSIONS: ASDs account for substantial health loss across the lifespan. Understanding the burden of ASDs is essential for effective policy making. An accurate epidemiological description of ASDs is needed to inform public health policy and to plan for education, housing and financial support services.
    AD
    School of Population Health,University of Queensland,Herston,Australia.
    PMID
    25108395

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    4
    TI
    Epidemiology of pervasive developmental disorders.
    AU
    Fombonne E
    SO
    Pediatr Res. 2009;65(6):591.

    This article reviews the results of 43 studies published since 1966 that provided estimates for the prevalence of pervasive developmental disorders (PDDs), including autistic disorder, Asperger disorder, PDD not otherwise specified, and childhood disintegrative disorder. The prevalence of autistic disorder has increased in recent surveys and current estimates of prevalence are around 20/10,000, whereas the prevalence for PDD not otherwise specified is around 30/10,000 in recent surveys. Prevalence of Asperger disorder is much lower than that for autistic disorder and childhood disintegrative disorder is a very rare disorder with a prevalence of about 2/100,000. Combined all together, recent studies that have examined the whole spectrum of PDDs have consistently provided estimates in the 60-70/10,000 range, making PDD one of the most frequent childhood neurodevelopmental disorders. The meaning of the increase in prevalence in recent decades is reviewed. There is evidence that the broadening of the concept, the expansion of diagnostic criteria, the development of services, and improved awareness of the condition have played a major role in explaining this increase, although it cannot be ruled out that other factors might have also contributed to that trend.
    AD
    Department of Psychiatry, Montreal Children’s Hospital of the McGill University Health Centre, Montreal, Quebec, Canada. [email protected]
    PMID
    19218885
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    The contribution of diagnostic substitution to the growing administrative prevalence of autism in US special education.
    AU
    Shattuck PT
    SO
    Pediatrics. 2006;117(4):1028.

    OBJECTIVE: Growing administrative prevalence of autism has stirred public controversy and concern. The extent to which increases in the administrative prevalence of autism have been associated with corresponding decreases in the use of other diagnostic categories is unknown. The main objective of this study was to examine the relationship between the rising administrative prevalence of autism in US special education and changes in the use of other classification categories.
    METHODS: The main outcome measure was the administrative prevalence of autism among children ages 6 to 11 in US special education. Analysis involved estimating multilevel regression models of time-series data on the prevalence of disabilities among children in US special education from 1984 to 2003.
    RESULTS: The average administrative prevalence of autism among children increased from 0.6 to 3.1 per 1000 from 1994 to 2003. By 2003, only 17 states had a special education prevalence of autism that was within the range of recent epidemiological estimates. During the same period, the prevalence of mental retardation and learning disabilities declined by 2.8 and 8.3 per 1000, respectively. Higher autism prevalence was significantly associated with corresponding declines in the prevalence of mental retardation and learning disabilities. The declining prevalence of mental retardation and learning disabilities from 1994 to 2003 represented a significant downward deflection in their preexisting trajectories of prevalence from 1984 to 1993. California was one of a handful of states that did not clearly follow this pattern.
    CONCLUSIONS: Prevalence findings from special education data do not support the claim of an autism epidemic because the administrative prevalence figures for most states are well below epidemiological estimates. The growing administrative prevalence of autism from 1994 to 2003 was associated with corresponding declines in the usage of other diagnostic categories.
    AD
    Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin, Madison, WI 53705, USA. [email protected]
    PMID
    16585296
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    The changing prevalence of autism in California.
    AU
    Croen LA, Grether JK, Hoogstrate J, Selvin S
    SO
    J Autism Dev Disord. 2002;32(3):207.

    We conducted a population-based study of eight successive California births cohorts to examine the degree to which improvements in detection and changes in diagnosis contribute to the observed increase in autism prevalence. Children born in 1987-1994 who had autism were identified from the statewide agency responsible for coordinating services for individuals with developmental disabilities. To evaluate the role of diagnostic substitution, trends in prevalence of mental retardation without autism were also investigated. A total of 5038 children with full syndrome autism were identified from 4,590,333 California births, a prevalence of 11.0 per 10,000. During the study period, prevalence increased from 5.8 to 14.9 per 10,000, for an absolute change of 9.1 per 10,000. The pattern of increase was not influenced by maternal age, race/ethnicity, education, child gender, or plurality. During the same period, the prevalence of mental retardation without autism decreased from 28.8 to 19.5 per 10,000, for an absolute change of 9.3 per 10,000. These data suggest that improvements in detection and changes in diagnosis account for the observed increase in autism; whether there has also been a true increase in incidence is not known.
    AD
    March of Dimes Birth Defects Foundation/California Department of Health Services, California Birth Defects Monitoring Program, Oakland 94606-5226, USA. [email protected]
    PMID
    12108622
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    The incidence of autism in Olmsted County, Minnesota, 1976-1997: results from a population-based study.
    AU
    Barbaresi WJ, Katusic SK, Colligan RC, Weaver AL, Jacobsen SJ
    SO
    Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med. 2005;159(1):37.

    OBJECTIVE: To determine the incidence of autism among children in Olmsted County, Minnesota.
    DESIGN: Through the Rochester Epidemiology Project, all inpatient and outpatient diagnoses are indexed for computerized retrieval. This computerized diagnostic index was used to identify children with any developmental disorder. A glossary of symptoms of autism was used to review medical and school records of these children for symptoms consistent with Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition (DSM-IV) criteria for autistic disorder.
    SETTING: Olmsted County, Minnesota. Subjects All residents of Olmsted County 21 years or younger between 1976 and 1997. Main Outcome Measure The incidence of research-identified autism based on DSM-IV criteria for autistic disorder.
    RESULTS: The age-adjustedincidence of research-identified autism was 5.5 (95% confidence interval, 1.4-9.5) per 100 000 children from 1980 to 1983 and 44.9 (95% confidence interval, 32.9-56.9) from 1995 to 1997 (8.2-fold increase). This increase was confined to children younger than 10 years who were born after 1987.
    CONCLUSIONS: The incidence of research-identified autism increased in Olmsted County from 1976 to 1997, with the increase occurring among young children after the introduction of broader, more precise diagnostic criteria, increased availability of services, and increased awareness of autism. Although it is possible that unidentified environmental factors have contributed to an increase in autism, the timing of the increase suggests that it may be due to improved awareness, changes in diagnostic criteria, and availability of services, leading to identification of previously unrecognized young children with autism.
    AD
    Department of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine, Division of Developmental and Behavioral Pediatrics, Mayo Clinic Dana Child Development and Learning Disorders Program, Mayo Clinic College of Medicine, Rochester, MN 55905, USA. [email protected]
    PMID
    15630056
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    Differences among states in the identification of autistic spectrum disorders.
    AU
    Mandell DS, Palmer R
    SO
    Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med. 2005;159(3):266.

    OBJECTIVE: To explore variation among the 50 US states in the administrative prevalence of autistic spectrum disorders (ASDs) and factors associated with that variation.
    DESIGN: This survey study used secondary data from all 50 states obtained from the US Department of Education, Washington, DC, and the American Board of Pediatrics, Chapel Hill, NC.
    MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE: The outcome of interest was the proportion of children identified with ASD in the academic year 2000-2001. Linear regression was used to examine its association with education and health system characteristics.
    RESULTS: States ranged in the proportion of children diagnosed with ASD from 0.6 per 1000 to 4.6 per 1000 in 2000-2001. In adjusted analyses, education-related spending, the number of pediatricians in the state, and the number of school-based health centers in the state were positively associated with the administrative prevalence of ASD.
    CONCLUSIONS: Variation in the administrative prevalence of ASD is associated with education-related spending, which may be associated with better-trained educational staff who can recognize the problem, and more and better trained in-school specialists who can provide screening. It is also associated with the availability of health care resources. Increased access to pediatricians and school-based health centers may lead to improved recognition of ASD. Interstate variability in the identification of ASD should be taken into account when interpreting the results of prevalence studies based on administrative data and the associated system characteristics taken into account by policy makers working to improve the recognition of ASD.
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    Department of Psychiatry, Center for Mental Health Policy and Services Research, University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, Philadelphia 19104, USA. [email protected]
    PMID
    15753271
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    Autism and diagnostic substitution: evidence from a study of adults with a history of developmental language disorder.
    AU
    Bishop DV, Whitehouse AJ, Watt HJ, Line EA
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    Dev Med Child Neurol. 2008;50(5):341.

    Rates of diagnosis of autism have risen since 1980, raising the question of whether some children who previously had other diagnoses are now being diagnosed with autism. We applied contemporary diagnostic criteria for autism to adults with a history of developmental language disorder, to discover whether diagnostic substitution has taken place. A total of 38 adults (aged 15-31y; 31 males, seven females) who had participated in studies of developmental language disorder during childhood were given the Autism Diagnostic Observation Schedule–Generic. Their parents completed the Autism Diagnostic Interview–Revised, which relies largely on symptoms present at age 4 to 5 years to diagnose autism. Eight individuals met criteria for autism on both instruments, and a further four met criteria for milder forms of autistic spectrum disorder. Most individuals with autism had been identified with pragmatic impairments in childhood. Some children who would nowadays be diagnosed unambiguously with autistic disorder had been diagnosed with developmental language disorder in the past. This finding has implications for our understanding of the epidemiology of autism.
    AD
    Department of Experimental Psychology, University of Oxford, Oxford, UK. [email protected]
    PMID
    18384386
    33
    TI
    Autism prevalence trends over time in Denmark: changes in prevalence and age at diagnosis.
    AU
    Parner ET, Schendel DE, Thorsen P
    SO
    Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med. 2008;162(12):1150.

    OBJECTIVE: To examine the effect of changing age at diagnosis on the diagnosed prevalence of autism among different birth cohorts.
    DESIGN: Population-based cohort study.
    SETTING: Children were identified in the Danish Medical Birth Registry and psychiatric outcomes were obtained via linkage with the Danish National Psychiatric Register.
    PARTICIPANTS: All children born in Denmark from January 1, 1994, through December 31, 1999 (N = 407 458).
    MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: The age-specific prevalence, hazard ratio, and relative risk by age.
    RESULTS: Statistically significant shifts in age at diagnosis were observed for autism spectrum disorder; children diagnosed before age 9 yearsin the cohorts born between January 1, 1994, and December 31, 1995, between January 1, 1996, and December 31, 1997, and between January 1, 1998, and December 31, 1999, were on average diagnosed at ages 5.9 (95% confidence interval [CI], 5.8-6.0), 5.8 (95% CI, 5.7-5.9), and 5.3 (95% CI, 5.2-5.4) years, respectively. The relative risk comparing the 1996-1997 birth cohort with the 1994-1995 birth cohort at age 3 years was 1.20 (95% CI, 0.86-1.67), which decreased to 1.10 (95% CI, 1.00-1.20) at age 11 years. Similarly, the relative risk comparing the 1998-1999 birth cohort with the 1994-1995 birth cohort at age 3 years was 1.69 (95% CI, 1.24-2.31), which decreased to 1.23 (95% CI, 1.11-1.37) at age 11 years. Similar results were observed for childhood autism.
    CONCLUSIONS: Shifts in age at diagnosis inflated the observed prevalence of autism in young children in the more recent cohorts compared with the oldest cohort. This study supports the argument that the apparent increase in autism in recent years is at least in part attributable to decreases in the age at diagnosis over time.
    AD
    Department of Biostatistics, Institute of Public Health, University of Aarhus, Vennelyst Boulevard 6, DK-8000 Aarhus C, Denmark. [email protected]
    PMID
    19047542
    34
    TI
    The rise in autism and the role of age at diagnosis.
    AU
    Hertz-Picciotto I, Delwiche L
    SO
    Epidemiology. 2009;20(1):84.

    BACKGROUND: Autism prevalence in California, based on individuals eligible for state-funded services, rose throughout the 1990s. The extent to which this trend is explained by changes in age at diagnosis or inclusion of milder cases has not been previously evaluated.
    METHODS: Autism cases were identified from 1990 through 2006 in databases of the California Department of Developmental Services, which coordinates services for individuals with specific developmental disorders. The main outcomes were population incident cases younger than age 10 years for each quarter, cumulative incidence by age and birth year, age-specific incidence rates stratified by birth year, and proportions of diagnoses by age across birth years.
    RESULTS: Autism incidence in children rose throughout the period. Cumulative incidence to 5 years of age per 10,000 births rose consistently from 6.2 for 1990 births to 42.5 for 2001 births. Age-specific incidence rates increased most steeply for 2- and 3-year olds. The proportion diagnosed by age 5 years increased only slightly, from 54% for 1990 births to 61% for 1996 births. Changing age at diagnosis can explain a 12% increase, and inclusion of milder cases, a 56% increase.
    CONCLUSIONS: Autism incidence in California shows no sign yet of plateauing. Younger ages at diagnosis, differential migration, changes in diagnostic criteria, and inclusion of milder cases do not fully explain the observed increases. Other artifacts have yet to be quantified, and as a result, the extent to which the continued rise represents a true increase in the occurrence of autism remains unclear.
    AD
    Department of Public Health Sciences, University of California, Davis, California 95616, USA. [email protected]
    PMID
    19234401

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    Which up to date has discussed.

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    Diagnostic criteria have shifted. This at least partly explains changes in incidence rates.

  • Katia

    It’s “new math”.

  • Katia

    Which diseases are these?

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    NONPOLIO ENTEROVIRUSES CAUSING ACUTE FLACCID PARALYSIS — Like poliovirus, nonpolio enteroviruses usually produce infections that are clinically inapparent, but they may invade the central nervous system. Although aseptic meningitis is the most common central nervous system manifestation of enteroviruses (followed by encephalitis), acute flaccid paralysis has been found to be caused by coxsackieviruses and echoviruses in the Soviet Union, Scotland, and South Africa [24,35-41].

    The paralysis caused by coxsackievirus and echovirus infections is usually milder than that seen in association with polioviruses. Permanent paralysis is uncommon after coxsackievirus and echovirus infections. Usually there is resolution of the deficit by 60 days after onset [9]. (See “Clinical manifestations and diagnosis of enterovirus and parechovirus infections” and “Epidemiology, pathogenesis, treatment, and prevention of enterovirus and parechovirus infections”.)

    Other enteroviruses have been implicated as well. Enterovirus 71 (EV71), first identified in California in 1969, has a long history of producing acute flaccid paralysis [20,42-44]. During an epidemic of EV71 infection in Bulgaria in 1975, a poliomyelitis-like syndrome developed in 7 percent of those infected, and bulbar weakness developed in 10 percent. Young children were the most severely affected.

    Histopathologically, these patients were found to have lesions typical of acute anterior poliomyelitis and bulbar polioencephalitis, predominantly in the medulla and spinal cord [45,46]. In 1978, 1550 cases of EV71 infections with central nervous system involvement were identified in Hungary [47]. Thirteen of these were cases of acute flaccid paralysis, all in children between 8 and 36 months of age [47].

    Enterovirus 70 (EV70) has been widely reported to produce acute flaccid paralysis in association with acute hemorrhagic conjunctivitis [9,48-51]. Acute hemorrhagic conjunctivitis first occurred in epidemic form in Ghana in 1963. There were subsequently a number of epidemics and pandemics in Africa, Asia, and Europe, affecting tens of millions of individuals. One in 10,000 to 15,000 of these patients with acute hemorrhagic conjunctivitis developed acute flaccid paralysis, mostly older teens and adults. As with poliomyelitis, most of these patients with acute flaccid paralysis had a cerebrospinal fluid pleocytosis and elevated cerebrospinal fluid protein level. Diagnosis was made by isolation of the virus from the eyes early in the illness, or by a rise in antibody titers between paired sera [9,48-51].

    Afp is caused by different enteroviruses. The non polio viruses tend to be less severe and disabling.

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    I am afraid that I would instantly lose 30 iq points if I went to any of the “sources.”

  • No they do not;and in fact the said AFP known of can be even more disabling and deadly. And you fail to even provide a source?

    Despite Exuberance Many Vaccines Do Far More Harm Than Good
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/despite-exuberance-many-vaccines-do-far-more-harm-good

    India Still Reporting Cases of Polio-like Acute Flaccid Paralysis

    http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2015/07/india-still-reporting-cases-of-polio-like-acute-flaccid-paralysis/

    Indian J Med Ethics. 2012 Apr-Jun;9(2):114-7.
    Polio programme: let us declare victory and move on.
    Vashisht N, Puliyel J.
    http://216.12.194.36/~ijmein/index.php/ijme/article/view/110/1065

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22591873

    India: Paralysis cases soar after oral polio vaccine introduced
    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/323371#ixzz2s7kW4mSr

    National Polio Surveillance India data 2000 -2010

    NPSP Polio surveillance data on Acute Flaccid Paralysis (AFP) and non-polio AFP and Demographic data
    The non-polio AFP rate increased with increased number of OPV doses during 2000-2009. (R2 = 32.5%; P
    < 0.001). When adjusted for the shift in potency with the introduction of monovalent OPV after 2005, the same association
    became stronger (R2 = 44.8%; P < 0.001). When the effect of cumulative doses received in the state over the years on the non-polio AFP rate was examined, the non-polio AFP rate in 2009 best correlated to the cumulative doses received in the previous 3 years. Association (R2) of non-polio AFP rate with OPV doses received in 2009 was 41.9%. It increased to 49.6%, when we looked at AFP rate in 2009 related to total doses received in the years 2008 and 2009. Adding up doses
    received in 2007 to that in 2008 and 2009 further increased the association (R2 = 55.6%). All these correlations were highly significant (P < 0.001).

    http://jacob.puliyel.com/download.php?id=248

    Long-Term Circulation of Vaccine-Derived Poliovirus That Causes Paralytic Disease

    However, the reported data indicate that vaccine-derived viruses may make their way through narrow breaches and evolve into transmissible pathogens even in adequately immunized populations. This fact adds an additional dimension to the accumulating information about long-term circulation of vaccine-derived polioviruses in areas with inadequate immunization (11-13). Collectively, these data point to a high risk associated with the strategies that involve stopping polio vaccinations after the eradication of naturally circulating wild polioviruses.

    [THAT is clearly a NO win situation!]

    http://jvi.asm.org/content/76/13/6791.full

    Molecular and Antigenic Characterization of a Highly Evolved Derivative of the Type 2 Oral Poliovaccine Strain Isolated from Sewage in Israel

    The presence in the environment of a highly evolved, neurovirulent OPV-derived poliovirus in the absence of polio cases has important implications for strategies for the cessation of immunization with OPV following global polio eradication

    [THAT, is clearly a NO win situation!]

    http://jcm.asm.org/content/38/10/3729.full

    Raw Data ~ Polio
    http://autismrawdata.net/1/post/2013/11/raw-data-polio.html

    Bill Gates and 47,500 Cases of Paralysis
    http://nsnbc.me/2013/05/08/bill-gates-polio-vaccine-program-caused-47500-cases-of-paralysis-death/

  • It is clearly not just an opinion, and the evidence in front of you clearly and obviously shows you, that it is not.

  • If you only accept the sources with everything to lose, the truth be known; well then of course you will see no reason to believe anything other than that polio vaccine was anything other than some literal Salk and Sabin, miraculous polio preventing holy water. And you fail to even think as much as your that your claims could even be questionable?

    The Present Status of Polio Vaccines

    Excerpts:

    A full discussion of both these issues can be found in the Polio section of my book The Vaccine Guide. The criteria for diagnosing polio did change when the vaccine was introduced in the 1950s and this change in diagnosis apparently reduced the statistic for the number of polio cases dramatically. Monkey kidney cells are used to produce the oral vaccine and controversy rages about the contamination of OPV with monkey viruses. For a complete review of these issues, see the book. Here is one quote from the book. Dr. Bernard Greenberg, a biostatistics expert, was chairman of the Committee on Evaluation and Standards of the American Public Health Association during the 1950s. He testified at a panel discussion that was used as evidence for the congressional hearings on polio vaccine in 1962. During these hearings he elaborated on the problems associated with polio statistics and disputed claims for the vaccines effectiveness. He attributed the dramatic decline in polio cases to a change in reporting practices by physicians. Less cases were identified as polio after the vaccination for very specific reasons. Prior to 1954 any physician who reported paralytic poliomyelitis was doing his patient a service by way of subsidizing the cost of hospitalization and was being community-minded in reporting a communicable disease. The criterion of diagnosis at that time in most health departments followed the World Health Organization definition: Spinal paralytic poliomyelitis: signs and symptoms of nonparalytic poliomyelitis with the addition of partial or complete paralysis of one or more muscle groups, detected on two examinations at least 24 hours apart. Note that two examinations at least 24 hours apart was all that was required. Laboratory confirmation and presence of residual paralysis was not required. In 1955 the criteria were changed to conform more closely to the definition used in the 1954 field trials: residual paralysis was determined 10 to 20 days after onset of illness and again 50 to 70 days after onset…. This change in definition meant that in 1955 we started reporting a new disease, namely, paralytic poliomyelitis with a longer-lasting paralysis. Furthermore, diagnostic procedures have continued to be refined. Coxsackie virus infections and aseptic meningitis have been distinguished from paralytic poliomyelitis. Prior to 1954 large numbers of these cases undoubtedly were mislabeled as paralytic poliomyelitis. Thus, simply by changes in diagnostic criteria, the number of paralytic cases was predetermined to decrease in 1955-1957, whether or not any vaccine was used. Read more by use of the below link:

    The Present Status of Polio Vaccines. Clearly and obviously the change in polio diagnosis and re-definition right after the vaccine was in use, significantly reduced the polio case numbers, and not the polio vaccine.
    http://www.greatmothersquestioningvaccines.com/uploads/2/8/8/8/2888885/ratner_1960.pdf

    Letters from Albert Sabin
    http://www.virology.ws/2009/01/19/letters-from-albert-sabin/

    VRM: The Re-emergence of Polio in The Third World (compliments of the World Health Organization &
    Bill Gates)
    http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/?p=10091

  • The information is right in front of you. Again, just because the standard big pharma medical model has failed to investigate this reality of physiologically based health care; does not make it any less real, and nor does it make it any less fact.

  • Ditto? So now you have admitted that you are a big pharma schooled, ditto head? Thanks for at least that much in your basic admission of the truth.

    Don’t forget to review this information.
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sottradionetwork/2015/07/31/the-health-and-wellness-show–31-july-2015–big-pharma-the-medical-mafia

  • Al Mather

    Moulden is the joker that claimed he could diagnose Autism,PTS gulf war syndrome,vaccine damage from pics and video ( all for a fee of course) sent to him…once you paid membership to him. “Brainguard”. Class act Lowell … you sure know how to pick ’em.

  • Actually it was a very class act; as vaccine caused ischemia is very easy to see and to diagnose; by anyone that is adequately trained in brain science. Obviously you have again and as well disregarded ever bit of information that has been put in front of you. Blood sludging caused by vaccine aluminum adjuvants and resulting cytokine activity do to vaccinations. The fine end microvascular territories of the brain end up having occur what are essentially mini strokes, and with the resulting effect of lesions on the cranial nerves, which effect the position of eyes symmetrically, and as well the position of the mouth and bilateral folds of the cheek. Just as it does in adult stroke, but only milder and with more subtle effects. Actually it is you that is clearly the in denial, JOKER. This is basic human physiology, and you personally can not even see it. Why? Because you refuse to.

    Vaccine injuries, Dr. Andrew Moulden, Conférence Liberté de Choix en Santé, Montréal, 12 sept. 2009
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Pb2gqbkyk&list=PL7-UPmbfdnB-j6KqDiXT3Bzha320G0SPo

    Vaccination toxicity: The Zeta phase of MASS and “blood sludging”
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccination-toxicity-the-zeta-phase-of-mass-and-ldquoblood-sludgingrdquo.html

  • His backside has been kicked so many times, that he has nothing left of it; and he refused to see and understand that.

  • How can it be a personal attack, when you have zero identity?

  • Really? And when you yourself can obviously answer directly, to nothing? That is called, blatant hypocrisy.

  • Weeded out non-polio cases? In what world do you determine that as a fact? No, the change in diagnosis clearly did not weed out non-polio cases! .You are entirely delusional, and you just make stuff up as you go. Youtube videos can often obviously contain far more information than you can handle; there, alias and with no identity, Donald.

  • BS, all that proves is that polio disappeared. It does NOT prove anything in regard to causation beyond correlation equals causation. You have existing actually zero and no so called vaccine derived herd immunity; face it. It is an obvious impossibility, so face it.

  • Ditto what? Ditto in regard to that you are just another mindless and in denial, sheeple?

  • Al Mather

    “vaccine caused ischemia is very easy to see and to diagnose; by anyone that is adequately trained in physiologically based brain science.” Really Lowell? Can you provide any info or show anyone ever claiming the ability to do this, other than your mentally ill quack “Dr” Moulden? ( never actually attained a medical license) who would charge his prey $2500. for video diagnosis “proof” of vaccine damage,$47. a month to get on his “Brain Guard” supplement . This huckster never bothered to try to prove or document any of his miraculous theory.. even though simple liver enzyme tests would confirm the “mini stroke” claims.
    My theory.. this guy tried and tried to get through residency but after years of being unable to hold it together (bi polar) he gave up and started railing against the whole medical establishment. Came up with his “Brain Guard” and ridiculous theory of white blood cell clumping that can be destroyed a hundred ways.. after he was shut down and spurned by even the folks at Age of Autism for being a quack..Sadly ..his mental illness overcame him and he took his own life. A story that I am sure makes him a sympathetic kindred spirit to many Anti vaxxers.

  • And I think we should award that what you just wrote here as the biggest load of in denial evil, and complete bullshit ever written, anywhere, in regard to Dr Andrew Moulden.

    If you can not see the pictures he put forth, and if you can not understand the physiological explanation he put forth, any better than that; then you are deliberately lying about this issue, and you know it.

    In 2010 Dr Andrew Moulden who had done more study regarding brain science, than probably anyone known of ever; had 5000 existing images of that said ischemia. That ischemia as well can and was caused by having the polio itself; and that as well was imaged as to ts result, in photographs. It is the combination of aluminum adjuvants and as well the cytokine activity of the vaccines which caused the said blood sludging; and far more is involved than just white blood cells.

    What do you not understand about the fact that injected aluminum even in small amounts, is a coagulant? This is basic human physiology and biology. What do you not understand about that the human body and especially the brain have existing fine end microvascular territories that can indeed be effected by strokes and stroking, and even in an infant. What do you not get about that that process can be partially and if not even appearing to recovered from; but when the next set of injected vaccines takes place, then the effect is cumulative and again picking on the same damaged areas that were existing before, and the entire situation has an outcome of deteriorating brain damage and resulting loss of mental and physiological function. The progression of pictures do not lie.

    Instead of actually reviewing the material and information that was put in front of you; instead you simply refused to review that and only maintained and clung to the false information which exists, in the attack against this very real vaccine truth that Dr, Moulden put forth.

    I knew Dr Moulden personally, and I attended an informational seminar as well that he did in 2009. It was some of the most powerful vaccine truth you could ever imagine. I have talked to his half sister and I know far more than you do as to the issue; and I am convinced that he did not commit suicide, and that his death was a murder. He had an investigation going on the entire time he was shut down, and as to in needing to sign an agreement to stay silent on vaccines, if they let him work within the medical establishment; and that he did; and he had no choice; and to continue to make a living. Oddly that contract was up, and he no longer would have those ties, and he was very close to going public with what he had found for information; and then he ends up dead. Really?

    I can only hope that someday you simply burn in hell, for all your repeat deception, denial, and for your lies, Mr so called Al Mather.

  • The topic of this website, is vaccines. You are not the sites moderator, so get over it.

  • Actually I told you many reply posts ago that the CDC has already confirmed those major increases in autism numbers, and they run directly parallel to the increases in now since 1987 no liability vaccines. So, why are you haggling about and over one single junk science study that is in direct conflict with what even the CDC admits to be true? How entirely mindless and in your complete denial of autism and vaccine reality, does this need to continually get?

  • Bullshit. You stated that the autism rate has not ever changed ever, period and that there has never actually been any increase in autism numbers. The devil may have your evil tongue and transcribed to your keyboard, but there is nothing at all to argue here. The autism rate has majorly increased and directly parallel to the quadrupling in vaccines and as well added vaccine injected doses numbers, and as to vaccines, period. Those are facts, face it.

  • More of the devils tongue, misrepresentation and deception, directly transcribed to your fingers and your keyboard. You have nothing to argue. The ASD increases in numbers are clearly and obviously, real.

  • What in the hell are you actually arguing about then? You clearly argue just to argue.

  • DR DUH, and out of a Wisconsin medial center. To much to lose, and with all of the more harm than good done by vaccines, vaccine truth, to deny. He is angry, but he is attacking the wrong people. He should actually attack the people that did not teach him the correct knowledge in medical school.

  • Your entire existence and within that so called vaccine pushing medical field, is obviously and clearly within the category of being called, absurd.

  • How about SV40, you forgot that? Do you have any studies on what is called horizontal infections; and you know where SV40 has now transferred directly from mother and parent to child? Why are they still finding and isolating SV40 from the cancers in children, today? We obviously now will never be rid of that injected SV40 cancer and tumor causing monkey virus. What a polio eradication success story. Do you know that the vaccine contamination issue has never been resolved by any known purification step process; and that both the FDA and CDC are clearly aware of that? There is absolutely not way ever to get all the potential contamination substances and pathogens out of those vaccines, and considering all the vile substances that vaccines are and have been made and grown from.

  • You continue to mindlessly dance around the issue like you do; (and argue just to argue) and then you simply claim that others are dodging the issue? Actually no one here has ever dodged the issues and like you do. Unfortunately for the vaccinated infants and children, that is a continuing and obvious honor, within the vaccine pushers hall of shame.

  • Quite obviously you are a person that can not differentiate and nor understand even the basics in regard to what is opinion, and what is obvious fact. The real whack job is actually and clearly, you.

  • And you keep coming back in here and making replies long after the issue was debated; and then think you won, simply because the reply post was never seen. That is an example of desperattion at its worst there, Mr (false name, aka) Donald Monty.

  • Al Mather

    What do you not get that if these ischemia events were indeed happening in the brain as described they would also be happening simultaneously throughout the body and other easily detectable tissue-specific enzymes and isoenzymes should rise following vaccination… but they do not.

    Why is it your addled brain can not seem to wrap around the simple and obvious fact that if the quackpots claims of these events were true MRI s of the autistic would show evidence of perivascular inflammation and co-localized brain tissue loss… but they do not!

    His Sister posted on his Facebook page that years of struggle with being bipolar had overwhelmed him and he committed suicide.

    And I can assume from your response that even though you claim “vaccine caused ischemia is very easy to see and to diagnose; by anyone that is adequately trained in physiologically based brain science.”
    you still are completely unable to respond to my request for proof or links or reference to ANYONE else perpetrating this hoax “video diagnosis” of vaccine injury …or any of the other list of ailments he was willing to defraud people out of with his quackery.

  • Al Mather

    Lowell so called Hubbs….. you are the one who just came back and made a reply 12 days later.. Mr Monty’s reply was posted the same day as your preceding comment. So who is providing the example of “despera(t)tion at its worst” ?

  • Donald Monty

    Where’d all the polio go, Lowell?

  • Donald Monty

    Ranting again.

  • Donald Monty

    Dodge. Where are Bechamp’s microzymes?

  • Donald Monty

    It’s an article about polio, but I understand why you want to change the topic.

  • Donald Monty

    It’s just another crap opinion piece.

  • Donald Monty

    Where’d all the polio go then?

  • Donald Monty

    Where’d all the polio go?

  • Donald Monty

    Why are you changing the subject again? Oh yeah, you can’t explain where all the polio went.

  • Donald Monty

    Another personal attack.

  • Donald Monty

    The study showed an adult ASD rate of 1% and a childhood rate of 1.5%. How is that in conflict with the CDC? Did you even read the transcript?

  • Donald Monty

    The data is important, not the identity. You’re identity certainly hasn’t added to your credibility.

  • Donald Monty

    More ranting.

  • Donald Monty

    I never said the ASD rate didn’t go up, just that it went up due to broadened diagnostic criteria and increased screening.

  • Donald Monty

    It went up as I’ve already said, but it went up due to broadened diagnostic criteria and increased screening, not vaccines.

  • Donald Monty

    Sue asked where the adults with autism were and I posted a study showing her. I can’t explain it more simply than that. What are you arguing about?

  • Donald Monty

    You’re back to just contradicting.

  • Donald Monty

    Post something new for God’s sake.

  • Donald Monty

    As I posted weeks ago, you have resorted to just trying to get the last word in on every post.

  • Donald Monty

    I can’t simplify it more than I have, Lowell.

  • eggman2

    That is stupid. Vitamin C cures any infectious disease, for vitamin C even kills germs on contact.

  • Al Mather

    Still waiting on those links since..”vaccine caused ischemia is very easy to see and to diagnose; by anyone that is adequately trained in physiologically based brain science.” Please provide any info or show anyone ever claiming the ability to do this,with pictures and submitted video? AND since you “think we should award that what you just wrote here as the biggest load of in denial evil, and complete bullshit ever written, anywhere, in regard to “Dr”Andrew Moulden.”
    Maybe you can address the other points below about the claimed ischemic events being so isolated and phantom???

  • Donald Monty

    So after your germ theory denialist links have been debunked you come back with a new thread posting all the same links.

  • Donald Monty

    And you’re back with the same debunked links.

  • You have actually debunked, NOTHING…period. You are nothing but a liar and you reply post nothing but repeatly, twisted deception.

  • When did you debunk anything, fool? You have actually and directly answered to nothing. And you certainly as well have refuted absolute nothing. Like I said, you need to be banned for false antagonizing, badgering, and for your repeat lies.

  • Donald Monty

    It’s all right here, Lowell, for every poor soul who comes here to read.

  • Donald Monty

    No, it’s all here.

  • Donald Monty

    I just wish we could get to the bottom of this.

  • Donald Monty

    Explain it again, then. I must have missed it.

  • That again falsely badgering reply is as well, and again another example of why you need to be banned here. You clearly are not here to debate any issues in any form of honesty.

  • That would mean that you have to become honest about it all, and that clearly and obviously is not ever happening.

  • You have had nothing, and you never will. You simply can not make facts and reality disappear, and no matter how badly you want that to happen, and continue ignore it all.

  • More continued delusions and lies from alias Donald Monty. Imagine that.

  • Donald Monty

    No, from you.

  • Donald Monty

    The readers will decide.

  • Donald Monty

    It’s just a big mystery.

  • Donald Monty

    Still don’t see it.

  • Your blind ignorance is then by your own choice.

  • No mystery. You are nothing but a standard medical model employed vaccine shill that has everything to lose if the vaccine truth be known. You refuse to accept the real vaccine reality, and you obviously can not accept and live with it and that reality; and so you must attack people like me. Face it, you are obsessed with it; 24 hours a day.

  • Quite obviously other than just as corrupt as you, Capt Ron; you have had zero supporters here. Keep living your life of delusions.

  • No you are. Do you think that you could ever actually reply post with some sort mentality other than than of a bratty child?

  • Al Mather

    Oh! So we can do the whole personal attack thing now? Like if I found videos or blogs about certain people on here I can post links to those??

  • Only if it is the truth, and you definitely will have it removed when it is only personal attack slander, and not the truth. What is concerning here is your level of obvious conflict of interest, and nothing more.

  • Donald Monty

    Always do.

  • Donald Monty

    It’s only me and you, Lowell.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re a dangerous germ theory denialist who requires reining in. I wish the supposed authors of these articles would show up. They’re the real problem.

  • LOL. I need reigning in? How you going to do that? Why don’t you just get to doing it? Your mindlessly re-parotted lies and vaccine misinformation are what clearly and obviously what need some major reigning in.

    You were told, that there is no reason for any of these article authors to waste their time with evil liars and vaccine truth and with complete denialism promoting freaks, the likes of you. What part of that don’t you understand?

  • Just like it was on the Argus Leader. Same sh$t.

  • What kind of an obsessive mental disorder, do you actually suffer from?

  • Donald Monty

    None. How about you?

  • Donald Monty

    Am I Argus now? Thought I was Costner.

  • Donald Monty

    Who really writes this nonsense?

  • You. And the proof of that is clearly all over this articles reply posting, and as well previous ones.

  • Donald Monty

    No, I mean these articles.

  • Al Mather

    My level of conflict of interest??? What are you babbling about now? So if what is posted is documented.. and links are provided.. then it’s not personal attack or slander.. Got it

  • You have had that information right in front of you. Polio was clearly already in decline. The major and unethical change in diagnosis, eliminated 30,000 cases all in one simple said change, and polio simply further declined on its own. There are as well issues with DDT, and as also previous vaccinations that were used that as well may have spurred the original epidemic numbers. But you will ignore and deny it all until hell freezes over, and no matter what is put in front of you repeatedly.

  • Replying like an immature and bratty child, again? Is that all you can do; and just because you have no other response to the truth?

  • Keep ignoring it all you want, and in falsely claiming there was nothing there.

    Soil/Terrain Theory -vs- The Germ-Theory of Illness and Disease
    http://www.vacfacts.info/soilterrain-theory–vs–the-germ-theory-of-illness-and-disease.html

  • What do you call the obviously sitting on these articles 24 hours a day 7 days a week, that you do? I at least take some significant time off, and to actually go to work.

  • In 2010 your reply posted under the character name Costner, on the Argus Leader online. I do not think there is much doubt any more. .

  • That’s right Monty, if it didn’t come from the pro-vaccine sources, the CDC, Pediatrics, Paul Offit, etc.; its to be considered as another crap opinion piece, and all the while that you have honestly no ability to respond to, and nor to refute any of it. You just throw false discreditation at anything that is not pro-vaccine misinformation, and false vaccine propaganda material.

  • Have you lost your mind? The authors name is on the article.

  • Donald Monty

    Someone’s name is on them, but who really writes them?

  • Donald Monty

    It’s not worth responding to.

  • Donald Monty

    Hmm, interesting. You’re going to prove that?

  • Donald Monty

    Yet you always come back, even a week later…

  • Donald Monty

    Keep ignoring that microzymes are a fantasy.

  • Donald Monty

    Look at you, 2 weeks later, just trying to get in the last word.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re just repeating nonsense that was already disproven right here.

  • You quite obviously did no such thing, period. I am starting to wonder if you are just lying, or if your delusional mind actually believes that; and everything else that you again and again, falsely claim to.

  • Really? And I can see that you went in here 3 days after I felt the so called discussion was over and nothing left to say, and made a another one of your mindless two word replies. You have made as well other several replies here in the same fashion, and after I considered this article done with and moved onto the new one that was published. It may be two weeks later, but was the first I had seen of it and that. Your hypocrisy level is so clever as to not see you own?

  • Everything on that page is referenced with the historical knowledge and information that it takes to fully understand that the microzyme and pleomorphism information, etc; is all quite real and it is not information that you can dispute, other than in your case to again and aagain deny that any information was ever there at all.

    Just because the standard big pharma based medical model has never been an actual health care model, and nor as well a source that looked for the actual and real physiologically based causation of anything at all; doesn’t excuse you to deny the existence of real understanding. You are complete waste of time, and you know it. That is done intentionally and deliberately. You are obsessed with denial and in the refusal to face your reality. That is again obviously the only reason you are here, period.

  • You missed the point of my statement; yaa think?

  • You have not denied it; now have you. Everything fits, as to what you are doing, and it is the same exact style of reply posting, and to include the crazed persistence, and your obsession with me, and this website. Its all the same thing, right down to the (sic).

  • Is that from the official wording of your job description? Or perhaps its from your debating manual under the section titled, replying in evasion and evasive steps to take?

  • Obviously the author who’s name is on the article. And do you have any evidence or reason to believe that they did not? If not then who are you eluding to and/or proclaiming, did write them? What an odd/strange question.

  • Donald Monty

    Well not one of the “writers” ever posts comments for one thing.

  • Donald Monty

    Lol listen to you.

  • Donald Monty

    I’m liking this Costner guy more and more. What’s with the “sic” thing?

  • Donald Monty

    You had a point?

  • Donald Monty

    How about this, then. Show us a picture of a microzyme.

  • Donald Monty

    Why’d you come back 2 weeks later then?

  • Donald Monty

    You’re just trying to get in the last word as if that makes your statements correct.

  • And just like you did on the Argus Leader, and just as your attempting here. Same thing (sic).

  • I just told you.

  • Irrelevant question. The information is all clearly in front of you, and you still refuse it. Show me a picture of the polio virus?

  • Yes, that you are hypocrite.

  • It was in your blog repeatedly.

  • What kind of mind repeatedly responds with only pointless and meaningless four word replies?

  • Some of them used to and before the site was attempted to be taken over by vaccine truth denialism idiots and trolling vaccine shills like yourself. They know its pointless to respond to repeat liars like you..

  • Donald Monty

    What is the Argus Leader and why do you keep writing (sic)?

  • Donald Monty

    No you didn’t.

  • Donald Monty

    No, really, show me a picture of a microzyme.

  • Donald Monty

    I’m not a hypocrite. I think it’s fun to slap down anti-vaxxers. It’s addictive. And where could anyone find a more target-rich environment?

  • Donald Monty

    I don’t have a blog.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re the definition of evasive.

  • Donald Monty

    Are you writing the articles?

  • None of them. Do you want me to start? I can do a really good job?

  • I have evaded nothing; and you? That’s right, you can not even comprehend even so much as the false and clearly failed germ theory. You deliberately fail to comprehend even the most basic concepts of it. Pharma school educated, brainwashed, and indoctrinated; what else could you expect.

  • I knew it was confirmed as you the minute you used the (sic) in one of your replies. You knew right away that I had recognized that; and you stopped doing it. Everything matches perfectly with the same bullsh$t that you replied with and did on the Argus leader online; and that before they changed it to a facebook log in only.

  • Actually it is you that continually gets slapped down; and in your brainwashed and in denial ignorance, you refuse to see it. You are a thoroughly sick and twisted man. The only thing addictive for you is your denial; and in and as to the fact that you persistently can not face, and refuse to face the, and your vaccine reality.

  • So in your mind you can not comprehend what a microzyme is and nor can you comprehend what pleomorphism is, and nor the third element of blood? Imagine that; and all that lack of comprehension, by your own choice. Big pharma educated, whoo hooo.

    Soil/Terrain Theory -vs- The Germ-Theory of Illness and Disease
    http://www.vacfacts.info/soilterrain-theory–vs–the-germ-theory-of-illness-and-disease.html

    The False Foundations of Modern Medicine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-foundations-of-modern-medicine.html

  • It is four replies up. Liar.

  • Why did you keep writing (sic) in that blog? And do you forget that you replied with that here, again? Such a poor level of comprehension you have. Have you ever in your life answered any question, yes, or no? Or does your evasion switch automatically kick on?

  • Donald Monty

    That would be amazing. You really should.

  • Donald Monty

    You’ve been brainwashed by whacked out anti-vax internet sites.

  • Donald Monty

    Lol Lowell if I corrected all your grammatical errors I wouldn’t have time to post my brilliant comments.

  • Donald Monty

    But you and this site don’t know vaccine reality. I’m trying to enlighten you and bring you into the 21st century.

  • Donald Monty

    So you can’t?

  • Donald Monty

    You said you thought the article was done with but you came back 2 weeks later.

  • Donald Monty

    What blog?

  • You know. Arsehole!!!

  • Well yes, and to see if and what you had done. How beyond stupid are you?

  • Actually it is YOU that can’t.

  • Try and as well enlighten with your wisdom all the parents with vaccine injured infants and children. Good luck with that. Your level of continued stupidity and denial, is just massive.

  • Oh I see, so now this is a spelling and grammar contest? Dodge. I know damned well you are the same person; and there is no question at all.

  • Pot calling the kettle black, again. You really should seek assistance for you obvious mental health issues. But then perhaps there really exists no help for your situation.

  • It would be no problem, but they have already several good writers.

  • Donald Monty

    Enlighten me.

  • Donald Monty

    No, you wanted to get in the last word.

  • Donald Monty

    Of course I can’t, no one can. They don’t exist.

  • Donald Monty

    I’m trying to enlighten parents who think their kids are vaccine-injured due to sites like this. And another personal attack.

  • Donald Monty

    You brought up the “sic” thing.

  • Donald Monty

    Oh my another personal attack.

  • Donald Monty

    Nah, you’re way better than them.

  • I can write a good article, and so can many others, as a fact.

  • Oh, you poor and abused, baby. None of it was ever deserved; you poor and so personally attacked, thing.

  • You clearly have a major issue and problem with yes or no answers; and apparently you can never comprehend the question; and by choice.

  • Good luck with that. Those children clearly ARE vaccine injured; you entirely twisted fool! Your game is about complete denial, and damage control; admit it.

  • Pleomorphism
    http://www.sun-nation.org/merkl-pleomorphism.html

    Pleomorphism
    http://www.normanallan.com/Sci/pleomorphism.htm

    What is Pleomorphism?
    http://www.life-sources.com/pages/What-is-Pleomorphism%3F.html

    Louis Pasteur Vs Antoine Béchamp and The Germ Theory of Disease Causation – 1
    http://www.laleva.org/eng/2004/05/louis_pasteur_vs_antoine_bchamp_and_the_germ_theory_of_disease_causation_1.html

    Antoine Bechamp
    French biologist
    1816 – 1908
    THE DREAM AND LIE OF LOUIS PASTEUR
    http://arizonaenergy.org/BodyEnergy/antoine_bechamp.htm

    Microzyme:
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Microzyme

    http://mx1.kmle.com/search.php?Search=microzyme

    Zymotic disease
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zymotic_disease

    Wilhelm Reich, Royal Raymond Rife, Gaston Naessens and the Somatid, Fourth steps on the trail: Bechamp and the microzymas (all are names and subject matters to know)

    Soil theory-150 Years of Hidden Knowledge
    http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/soil.htm#Hidden

    The Third Element of the Blood
    by Antoine Bechamp
    http://www.newtreatments.org/fromweb/bechamp.pdf

    The Blood and its Third Anatomical Element, (by chapter)
    by Antoine Bechamp 1912
    http://www.whale.to/v/bechamp_b.html

    CHAPTER 8 – THE MICROZYMAS

    The Blood and its Third Element
    by Antoine Bechamp (Author)

    This book is the last work by Professor Antoine Béchamp, a man who should, by rights, be regarded today as one of the founders of modern medicine and biology. During his long career as an academic and researcher in nineteenth century France, Béchamp was widely known and respected as both a teacher and a researcher. As a leading academic, his work was well documented in scientific circles. Few made as much use of this fact as Louis Pasteur, who based much of his career on plagiarising and distorting Béchamp’s research; in doing so, Pasteur secured for himself an undeserved place in the history of medical science. The Blood and its Third Element is Béchamp’s explanation of his position, and his defense of it against Pasteur’s mischief. This final major work of Béchamp’s embodies the culmination of his life’s research. This book contains, in detail, the elements of the microzymian theory of the organization of living organisms and organic materials. It has immediate and far reaching relevance to the fields of immunology, bacteriology, and cellular biology; and it shows that more than 100 years ago, the germ, or microbian, theory of disease was demonstrated by Béchamp to be without foundation. There is no single cause of disease. The ancients thought this, and Béchamp proved it and was written out of history for his trouble. The relevance of his work to the dilemmas that plague modern medical science remains as yet unrealized. This is a new edition of this title. The text has been extensively re-edited for today’s reader.

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Blood-its-Third-Element/dp/0957985878

    Why we don’t cure
    By Dr Patrick Quanten MD

    Excerpt:

    In the second half of the nineteenth century a French scientist, Antoine Béchamps, had given a rational, scientific explanation of the origin, growth and life activities of germs and of the normal living cells of vegetable, animal and human bodies. He became a Professor and taught at the University of Montpellier and the famous Sorbonne in Paris, where he was able to demonstrate, as early as 1864, that cells and germs are not the smallest individual living organisms, as taught by Pasteur and his followers. He called these organisms “microzymes”. All cells and germs – bacteria, viruses, parasites, moulds as well as cells from complex structures – are associations of these microzymes. The physical characteristics and vital activities of cells and germs depend upon the soil in which their microzymes feed, grow and multiply. The higher the quality of the “soil” the higher developed the cell will be. Microzymes that grow in fertile procreative soil will form highly complex cells. The same microzymes feeding on morbid material, living and multiplying in poisonous conditions will develop into organisms of the lower order – bacteria, viruses, parasites.

    Read more:
    http://freespace.virgin.net/ahcare.qua/literature/science/dontcure.html

  • Obviously you do, and just as it was on the Argus Leader in 2010. You are a very sick man. You are still today just as obsessed with me, and as to what I put forth, as you were then.

  • That would be impossible, as you refuse as much as even basic common sense.

  • Donald Monty

    Please do!

  • Donald Monty

    It just shows the level of comments you’ve resorted to.

  • Donald Monty

    Well…maybe, maybe not.

  • Donald Monty

    You should feel guilty for promoting this crap.

  • Donald Monty

    Same ole wall of crap.

  • Donald Monty

    Drives you crazy not knowing, doesn’t it? This guy must have hurt you deeply. Go ahead. Let it all out.

  • Donald Monty

    It probably is impossible for you to enlighten me on anything, but go ahead and try.

  • That is because you are entirely in denial sick, and refuse any form of truth and vaccine reality.

  • I could actually care less about the garbage you produced. There is a special place in hell for people like you. I came into this vaccine truth arena in 2009 with the willingness to give everything and including my life for it and the cause, and if that were to end up the case. That takes a lot more guts than you have, and that you will ever have. It is you, and there is as I said not longer any doubt. You disgusting, sick, and twisted man.

  • Same ole wall of your lies and complete denial.

  • I’m not destroying with vaccines the lives of infants, children, and families; you are. Your level of hypocrisy is just massive.

  • And said as if you actually deserved any respect.

  • Donald Monty

    You don’t know vaccine reality. You deny germ theory.

  • Donald Monty

    Another personal attack. And so you’re willing to give up your life by reading, archiving and regurgitating anti-vax crap from whack job internet sites? You’re so brave!

  • Donald Monty

    You need to get better links. You may as well just wipe your website and start over.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re not saving children, you’re putting them at risk.

  • Donald Monty

    But it’s against the web site’s policy, isn’t it? Who runs this rag, anyway? Are there moderators? Who are they?

  • You are a shameless LIAR. I have clearly more than proven that. Vaccines today and the number of them are causing and creating far more harm than good. The studies are there; the professionally provided data, and in seminar form is there; it is all there and the evidence of that, on multiple levels.

  • Really, just because you refuse to face the vaccine truth, doesn’t mean anything, and as to your lying and misrepresentation of what exists in front of you. You simply want to maintain a world full of dumb and mislead sheeple, just like yourself. On a skid board full of a pile of maintained denial, and ignorance; is the only why you can attempt to fly.

  • At least and unlike you I am bold enough to use my real identity. You have not a clue what I have been though in the past for direct attacks from the medical side. That sh$t coming right to my front door.

  • You were proven wrong, and yet a millions times over you will deny it. You deny the existence of evidence for anything, and everything. You simply claim that nothing for reference was ever there. You always have, and you always did exactly that.

  • Donald Monty

    It would be impossible because I’ve never had a blog.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re incredibly misguided.

  • Donald Monty

    You say you know the vaccine truth, yet you still cling to the belief vaccines cause autism and you deny germ theory.

  • Donald Monty

    You’re claiming your life was threatened?

  • Donald Monty

    You haven’t proven me wrong on anything, and you won’t.

  • There is a major difference between providing existing evidence and proof, and your refuse to admit to anything denial. Those are entirely separate issues.

  • That is right. In my case, that doesn’t and didn’t work out to well for them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z8Nm1p9Q_g

  • I’ve clearly already more than proven both issues, you selectively blind, and dimwitted clown.

  • I’ve more than shown and proven here is who is actually and majorly misguided. You clearly have a major issue with denial.

  • And your level of honest as well has never anywhere been put to any question, right.

  • Donald Monty

    Not by rational people.

  • Donald Monty

    If you didn’t just post the same crap you consider evidence you might make headway.

  • Donald Monty

    Lol Lowell.

  • Donald Monty

    Nice personal attack. And you’ve proven zippo.

  • Donald Monty

    Someday you’ll look back at all the years you wasted promoting long dead theories and wish you had done something worthwhile in life.

  • And as long as you can continue to stay in denial, and can keep on deluding yourself in that senseless form; it is all good for you; right?

  • And only in your twisted mind, and where within it nothing would be enough evidence of anything, and you must continue to deny it all.

  • What a sick man you are. Literally a sick and twisted puke of a man. And that is the real reason that you refuse to use a real identity. You couldn’t reply as you do if you had to use a real identity, and you know it.

  • Really? And when nothing is enough and never will be for you; and you must continue to deny it all; and no matter what. No one would ever be allowed to get anywhere with you, deliberately; and you know it.

  • Donald Monty

    But I’m not deluded or in denial. That’s you.

  • Donald Monty

    I deny your mad anti-vax beliefs.

  • Donald Monty

    Nice personal attack. If I used my real identity you could figure out where I live.

  • Donald Monty

    Not when they post the kind of crap you do.

  • You, are spreading the bull crap! And you know it.

  • I wouldn’t waste the time, other than in identifying and exposing you and your conflicts of interest. Your paranoia is your own problem.

  • So, you have to be mad, to expose the vaccine truth? You have to be mad, to not be yet in denial, and pro-vaccine? LOL.

  • Few people are in the state of complete denial, like you are. You have as real and obvious sickness, going on.

  • You have the wording wrong; is that it should have been stated as, pro-vaccine beliefs.

  • With your high level of cognitive dissonance, intellectual dishonesty, and academic mis-education; you would actually even know what the term rational, means?

  • Donald Monty

    I am the light of truth.

  • Donald Monty

    Sure, Lowell.

  • Donald Monty

    That coming from a germ theory denialist.

  • Donald Monty

    You again describe yourself perfectly.

  • Donald Monty

    What?

  • Donald Monty

    Yes.

  • Quite obviously the content of your repeated reply posting, has told an entirely different story.

  • Again, just only more twisted sickness, badgering, and harassment in your reply posting; and that is all that is ever going on with you.

  • Donald Monty

    Nope.

  • Donald Monty

    If my posts bother you so much why do you keep responding to them? Oh yeah, you think if you get the last word in you win.

  • That repeatedly childish and mindless posts don’t bother me; and I have been at this far to long for that. What I do think is that you just simply need to be put back in your place. You most of the time intentionally create what you do as simply and only harassment and mockery; and you know it. That is why you do not belong here and nor do you deserve to be here and reply posting. As well all you are doing with that continued garbage is burying other peoples posts, and that were really good; and as for their information. You are intentionally destroying the reply posting section in that way, and on these articles, and that is what you fully intended to do.

  • What a stubborn, and in denial liar.

  • Donald Monty

    You can’t stand that I call you out on all your BS.

  • ccdaddy

    You are a Pharma shill that will answer to God for your lies.

  • Donald Monty

    Not hardly.

  • You have not called me out on anything, but to repeatedly make denial of every vaccine truth issue, from A to Z. Face it.

  • Donald Monty

    You don’t know vaccine truth because you deny germ theory and think vaccines cause autism.

  • Patrick McGean

    Hang everyone who works for the CDC, everyone.

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  • MC333

    Your information does not rebut the thesis of this article or any of the proofs it offers. Why do you believe the case definition was not changed, when your own information neither supports that belief nor rebuts the evidence provided above?

  • MC333

    If you are referring to the polio that was not polio, it appears to have been properly classified as not polio. Since it was never polio, it didn’t go anywhere.

    If you are referring to the polio that was indeed polio, some of it was classified as not polio when paralysis was less than 2 months – apparently with no viral typing to exclude polio virus; this portion of polio should properly be assumed to still exist, and therefore also went nowhere.

    To answer your question, a baseline standard for determining polio would have to be applied to cases, then and now. Using the post 1959 standard, this is likely impossible because that standard determined polio only with a sample independently verified by the CDC. Since it is safe to assume that samples of each (or even most) pre-1959 polio infection was not independently tested by the CDC, the post 1959 standard is useless for comparative analysis. For obvious reasons the pre-1959 standard is also useless.

    In sum, we don’t know where all the polio went, because the diagnostic standards for identifying the disease appear to have been corrupted. But this is quite obvious; your question is flawed because it presumes the existence of what it implicitly attempts to support.

  • Donald Monty

    It’s 2015. We have PCR now. Where’s all the polio?