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The Dangerous Expansion of Adult Vaccinations

The primary focus for disease prevention for adults, in this country, continues to be vaccinations and the development of new ones. However, vaccinations fail to prevent their targeted diseases and can cause other health problems, including death. [1]

Americans are currently facing a health epidemic with cancer, heart disease, diabetes, obesity and autoimmune disorder rates at an all-time high. Many of these diseases have actually been causally linked to vaccinations. [2, 3]

Currently, several vaccines are recommended for adults, but many more, which target some of these illnesses, are being developed for the future. In addition to new vaccines, new adjuvants are being studied, as well as needle-free vaccines.

What would a more expansive vaccination schedule mean for the health of American adults? It seems likely that more vaccines would equate with more health problems, not less.

Current Adult Vaccine Schedule

Beginning at age 19, the following vaccines are recommended for adults:

  • Influenza
  • Td (tetanus and diphtheria) booster every 10 years
  • Varicella (chicken pox)
  • HPV
  • MMR
  • Zoster (shingles, ages 60-64)

The following vaccinations are recommended based on risk factors or employment conditions:

  • Hepatitis A
  • Hepatitis B
  • Pneumococcal 13
  • Pneumococcal 23
  • Meningococcal B
  • Meningococcal 4
  • Hib [4, 5]

New Diseases Targeted by Vaccines

The National Adult Immunization Plan is committed to expanding the variety of vaccinations offered to adults. Vaccines are currently being developed for the following diseases:

  • Cancer
  • Diabetes
  • Alzheimer’s disease
  • Auto-immune disorders
  • Malaria
  • West Nile virus
  • Dengue
  • AIDS
  • Malaria
  • Tuberculosis [6, 7]

New Vaccine Developments

New adjuvants are being studied for vaccines. Current adjuvants include mercury and aluminum. Adjuvants are additives which stimulate the immune system. Mercury and aluminum are associated with many health injuries. [8-10]

A new vaccination is being developed which will inject DNA necessary for production of a portion of a pathogen. It is predicted that this vaccination would have few side effects since a small amount of antigen would be produced.

Pain-free vaccines are being developed in the form of patches which can be self- administered easily and quickly to both adults and children who fear needles.

Health Risks of Vaccines for Adults

Children are not the only ones who suffer from vaccine damage. Previously healthy adults also suffer severe health damage, including death, from vaccinations.

In fact, more money is awarded by the vaccine court for vaccine-injured adults than children. In 2016, NVIC Executive Director Theresa Wrangham reported that the majority of awards made by the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VCIP) are given to adults damaged by the influenza vaccination. The most common health damage claims are for Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS), an auto-immune disorder that attacks the nervous system and can result in lifelong paralysis. [11]

The shingles and Pneumovax 23 vaccinations are not eligible for compensation under this program. [12]

Vaccinations are associated causally with the following serious health conditions in adults:

  • Gulf War syndrome
  • Alzheimer’s disease
  • Parkinson’s disease
  • ALS
  • ADHD [13]

Brain inflammation, chronic brain injury and death are health risks associated with all vaccinations. These risks were present with the very first vaccine created, the smallpox vaccination. The Institute of Medicine and National Academy of Sciences have identified the following vaccine health risks:

  • Brain inflammation/acute encephalopathy
  • Chronic nervous system dysfunction
  • Anaphylaxis
  • Febrile seizures
  • Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS)
  • Brachial neuritis
  • Acute and chronic arthritis
  • Thrombocytopenia
  • Smallpox, polio, measles and varicella zoster vaccine strain infection
  • Death (smallpox, polio and measles vaccine)
  • Shock and “unusual shock-like state”
  • Protracted, inconsolable crying
  • Syncope
  • Deltoid bursitis [14]

Conclusion

The vaccination comprises a misguided and unsafe national health care program which claims to prevent disease. Many significant health injuries are associated with vaccinating adults. Government resources are being spent researching and developing new and different vaccinations. Subjecting adults to more vaccinations is likely to cause more health injury and illness.

References:

  1. http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/07/05/herd-immunity…
  2. http://www.cdc.gov/chronicdisease/overview/
  3. http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2011/02/18/60-lab-studies…
  4. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/adult.html
  5. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/downloads/adult…pdf
  6. http://www.hhs.gov/nvpo/national-adult-immunization-plan…
  7. http://www.immunizeforgood.com/vaccines/new-vaccines-on-the-horizon
  8. https://www.epa.gov/mercury/health-effects-exposures-mercury
  9. http://articles.mercola.com…the-most-dangerous-aspect-of-vaccines.aspx
  10. http://articles.mercola.com…one-mercury-containing-vaccine.aspx
  11. http://www.nvic.org…vaccine-injury-claims-expected-to-increase-2016.aspx
  12. http://www.nvic.org/cmstemplates/nvic/pdf/downloads/adult-handout.pdf
  13. http://articles.mercola.com…vaccination-dangers.aspx
  14. http://www.nvic.org…Vaccinations–Know-the-risks-and-failures-.aspx

 

About the Author:

Michelle Goldstein is a mental health therapist who is passionate about holistic health, natural healing, nutrient-dense foods and the politics that impact them. She has published articles for Natural News, VacTruth, and other health websites. All of her published articles to date can be found at her health website, Holistic Health to Go. She can also be followed on her Facebook Page, Holistic Health to Go.

 

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Michelle Goldstein is a mental health therapist who is passionate about holistic health, natural healing, nutrient-dense foods and the politics that impact them. She has published articles for Natural News, VacTruth, and other health websites. All of her published articles to date can be found at her health website, Holistic Health to Go. She can also be followed on her Facebook Page.

  • Jesus baby

    9 of your 14 sources are from anti-vax/anti-science sites.

  • Jeff

    They are not anti-science sites. Not agreeing with the current main stream scientific consensus is very much science. Many scientists throughout history were labeled very inflammatory names until there was no denying their discovery of truth. The simple act of a doctor washing their hands to prevent spreading germs from patient to patient was once mocked by doctors. Their arrogance was killing patients.

  • Marshall

    O.k. which 5 sources do you consider legitimate? And, what is it about the others that makes you refer to them as anti-science? I myself am pro-science,but, very anti-vaccine.

  • URSULARICHES

    They do not seem to be bothering much with adult vaccinations in the UK. We are offered them but they stop asking us if we want them after a short time. I think I mentioned that I thought the medication, free in Wales, by the way, was not upto much and that it was actually harmful. I mentioned how the allergy medication basically did not work very well and how it harms our immune system and flora, that paracetamol and pain killers strip the the body of our immune defenses, how we are filled with toxins and nobody will test us for these, even if we discover we have had a friend poisoning us.

  • URSULARICHES

    People have so much FAITH in science. Scientists say this or that and todays sphisticated but incredibly gullibel people believe it more readily than people believed in what the Pope or King said, way back in the middle ages. Scientists have long disagreed with one another and held different views but today, disssent is out, it is a no no, a taboo. The dissenting sceintists with alternative views are not given jobs and are frequently bumped off, well they commit suicide or they have car crashes. People seem to believe everything the government says too, although we also acknowledge they are liars. Then people believe the fictions of the mainstream corporate media too. Ironically, the Popes have been much more trustworthy than any of the rest of the bunch over the last few centuries.
    Believe in the science only when you actually study the data of experiments they claim to have done and when you can replicate them. One of the most frequent and notorious frauds with regard to science is the abuse of the control groups. Another abuse is testing whatever for too short a time.
    My kids had high temperature without sweat after their MMRs, within 10-14 -17 days. They then came down with something and had to stay in bed to get over it. The only thing that brought down their temperatures was Yarrow.

  • Lee Reikert

    The day they come to force a vaccination on me they’ll be met with a shotgun at the door. That’s how strongly I believe that vaccines are part of the reason so many people are sick. I used to believe in vaccines and though none were mandated for adults at that time (thank God) I vaccinated the hell out of my dogs. Well, they died…..very young. Crazy thing is that when I stopped vaccinating, my dogs started living. They went from dying at around age 9-10 to now living to 15-16 years. I’ve always had multiples of dogs as I show and race so it’s been easy to see the changes from the day I stopped vaccinating. There’s now no illness, no heart disease, no cancer. I never, ever have a vet bill. The crazy thing is that when I finally agreed to stop vaccinating (via a plea from a sister who worked at the vaccine labs in CA in the 80’s) I just sat back and waited for my dogs to die. Thing is they didn’t. Instead they thrived. My sister recently took in 3 of her 10 unvaccinated dogs for titer testing for both parvo and distemper. All three had robust titers. In other words, all 3 had exposure to those diseases and their immune systems fought it off resulting in natural immunity. No vaccines required. I’ll take my chances without vaccines and depend instead on my healthy immune system.

  • And other than epidemiological studies done on only one vaccine, and also one single vaccine ingredient, what do you actually have for vaccine safety study science?

    9 Questions For The Pro-vaxxers

    1. Where are the safety studies regarding the vaccine safety of the current CDC vaccine schedule?

    2 Where are the vaccine safety studies regarding the known practice of injecting a small child with from 5 and up to nine or more vaccines, in a single day and office visit?

    3. Where are the vaccine safety studies in regard to the safety of injecting vaccine aluminum adjuvants?

    4. Where are the vaccine safety studies regarding the practice of injecting both vaccines with attenuated live viruses in them, together with as well killed vaccines with aluminum adjuvants in them.

    5. Where are the studies showing the vaccine safety of vaccines which are contaminated with human diploid cell short and long chain DNA contaminants, due to the use of human diploid tissue in the growing of the vaccine antigens in childhood vaccines? Where are the vaccine safety studies in regard to any other vaccine that has been known to be contaminated with the substances that the vaccine antigen was grown on, and from?

    6. Where are the vaccinated verses entirely un-vaccinated health outcome studies? Thousands of children still exist in the US, with active vaccine exemptions. The Amish community as well have had thousands of un-vaccinated children within their communities. Just because a small group of Amish were falsely fear mongered into vaccinating and ended up at a clinic in the attempt to diagnose and treat resulting childhood autism; does not mean that the entire Amish community vaccinates, and has been falsely eluded to. Obviously there is no need to not vaccinate, simply to do this study.

    7. In regard to the MMR vaccine. How does the CDC as well continue to ignore this long list of studies showing the harmful effects of, the vaccine injury effects of; and as well in these studies there as well appears be an obvious MMR connection to autism? The controversy does not only revolve around a single 1998 study by Wakefield, and as well a single study connected to the CDC’s, William Thompson. And the so called official word that they tell you is that any vaccine/autism link has been dis-proven, and debunked; right? Really? Lets look further.

    8. Can you explain how it is possible in regard to the comparisons of systemic adverse reactions, for the FDA in the review and in the approval of vaccines through clinical trials, to allow the substitution of saline placebo, a replacement such as other similar vaccines which the FDA has previously approved as safe? If big pharma and the CDC are going to re-assure their claim to the public that vaccines are safe; then why are not real saline placebos required in the comparison of systemic reactions. Lets as well look at the clinical trials on Gardasil. One placebo was the aluminum adjuvant, and the other appears to be HPV virus like particles, in the vaccines carrier solution. It is all in the over 400 page document that Merck submitted to the FDA on their said Gardasil clinical trials. No wonder the comparison between the vaccine and placebo graphs appear to be so similar. And with this going on, the public is actually supposed to retain their assurances of proven vaccine safety? I think not.

    9. Are you aware of the fact that SV40 a known contaminant in the early 1960’s polio vaccine, is still being found in children today, and which are to young to have ever had that known contaminated vaccine? SV40 is as well known to cause benign tumors, and cancer. Are you as well aware of the fact that vaccines today still contain the unresolved risk of there being contaminants in them that can cause and create adverse health effects? Contaminants from any once living animal, or human cell source, on which the vaccine antigens were grown on and from. This is clearly a remaining unresolved problem, and as witnessed again in regard to the vaccine Gardasil.

    Lets also take a look at the existing studies that allegedly show no connection between vaccines and autism. Actually, general vaccine injury, and immunological harm done, and without the evidence of autism, is an equally as serious an issue.

    As for their known epidemiological studies.

    And, what did they study in those so called and claimed to larger epidemiological, (population based), vaccine safety studies? In fact they only studied one single vaccine, the MMR; and one single vaccine ingredient, Thimerosal. None of the larger epidemiological studies compared vaccinated to entirely unvaccinated. None of the studies looked at the safety profile of the entire CDC vaccine schedule. None of those studies as well looked at the safety profile of giving from 5 to up to 9 vaccines or more to and infant or small child, in a single day and office visit.

    Every one of the larger MMR, and Thimerosal epidemiolgical studies were clearly COOKED, for the results, period. Found were the use of flawed study designs, use of unrealiable data, predetermined outcomes unsupported by the data, and as well major conflicts of interest in the studies funding sources; none of them being independent and nor unbiased.

    VACCINES AND AUTISM – WHAT DO EPIDEMIOLOGICAL STUDIES REALLY TELL US?

    We have 16 studies already that clearly state that vaccines do not cause autism.”
    — Amy Pisani, Executive Director, Every Child By Two

    “16 studies have shown no causal association between vaccines and autism, and these
    studies carry weight in the scientific industry.”
    — Dr. Nancy Snyderman, NBC Today Show Medical Editor

    “The science is largely complete. Ten epidemiological studies have shown MMR vaccine
    doesn’t cause autism; six have shown thimerosal doesn’t cause autism.”
    — Dr. Paul Offit, “Autism’s False Prophets”

    Read more:
    http://www.rescuepost.com/files/vaccines-and-autism-epidemiology-rebuttal.pdf

    14 Studies
    http://www.fourteenstudies.org/

    Vaccines Market worth $57.8 Billion by 2019
    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/vaccines-market-worth-578-billion-by-2019-289805011.html

    Dr. Paul Offit’s Aluminum Deceptions and Academic Misconduct (one very important article, to read)
    http://vaccinepapers.org/dr-paul-offits-aluminum-deceptions-academic-misconduct/

  • Jesus baby

    The vast majority of people with crazy ideas throughout history were proven wrong, though.

  • Jesus baby

    “O.k. which 5 sources do you consider legitimate?”

    The .gov ones. The others are all anti-vaccine, therefore anti-science.

  • Jesus baby

    Science and scientific method are awesome.

  • Truth Seek

    Anti-vax, or pro-F.O.I.? Have you checked whether those site have references to studies? Most if not all vax studies are not true placebo controlled studies, but use another vaccination, so any of the adjuvants are the same between the two and these chemicals are the ones that mainly cause a reaction. The majority of “scientific” studies are either false, flawed or have manipulated data and stats, as admitted by medical scientists recently themselves. You might as well flip a coin to decide if the novel substance you want to take is backed up by flawed or legitimate scientific studies! Isn’t questioning part of science. Your statement is a closed-minded, labelling statement, made seemingly without inquiry – it’s dogmatic. Even those sites you call anti-vax usually state “don’t believe this information, do your due diligence.” So, do it!

  • Jesus baby

    You are a perfect example of why such unethical long-term studies as vaxxed vs unvaxxed would be pointless. You wouldn’t believe them anyway.

  • Jesus baby

    The author of this article starts right out with the ridiculous “vaccinations fail to prevent their targeted diseases”. She then tries to back up that statement by linking an anti-vax opinion piece by a former nephrologist named Suzanne Humphries.

  • Marshall

    So even though the CDC has been caught red handed suppressing data linking the MMR vaccine to autism, and the fact that countries like Japan are removing HPV vaccines from their vaccine schedule because of the harm they have caused,here in the U.S. if anyone so much as questions the safety and effectiveness of vaccines they are some how anti-science? In Brazil thousands have protested the use of the HPV vaccine because they have witnessed firsthand the harm they have done to their children. Are all of these parents “anti-science”? No, they are not! Vaccines are big business with billions of dollars at stake. Big pharma couldn’t care less about the health of anyone. Especially as long as they are protected from being prosecuted for any and all vaccine injuries by congress. As long as they are allowed to manipulate congress with their minions of lobbyist , and are free from legal consequences, they will continue to spread their poison unchecked by real science.

  • guest

    Healthy People 2000 was released in 1990-http://www.cdc(dot)gov/nchs/healthy_people/hp2000.htm. It has morphed into Healthy People 2020 http://www.healthypeople(dot)gov/ with new guidelines which include the addition of the HPV vaccine. I provide both links-from the government’s website so people can research the progression over the years. The goal is vaccination for all from “Cradle to GRAVE” which is a direct statement from the CDC’s lobbying group NACCHO which has an office in every state in the US. https://medium (dot) [email protected][email protected]b16c7c0c77. NACCHO stands for The National Association of County and City Health Officials. NACCHO received an infusion of 25 million from the CDC (documented). It is illegal for a government agency to financially fund a outside lobbying group BUT the CDC has declared themselves above the law. The link to the information and financial statements are not from an anti-vaxx source before you start the “anti-vaxx” chant.

    NACCHO policy statement: “An Immunization Program for all Stages of Life”: The National Association of County and City Health Officials (NACCHO) urges the federal government to support the creation of a comprehensive national immunization program that addresses all stages of life (CRADLE TO GRAVE ) with the intention of achieving the Healthy People 2020 immunization goals and standards. The words “CRADLE TO GRAVE” are written into the policy statement.

    NACCHO agents were instrumental is pushing SB277 and the vaccine agenda in Oregon.

    Children in the US receive : 49 DOSES OF 14 VACCINES BEFORE AGE 6.
    69 DOSES OF 16 VACCINES BY AGE 18. There are articles on medical website that it is being recommended that the HPV vaccine be added to the list of required vaccines in the 2-6 years age group. So if implemented children will receive 52 doses of vaccines before the age of 6. With the implementation of the Adult Mandatory Vaccine schedule which will require: 72 vaccinations between the ages of 19 and 65, if you add Gardasil & Meningitis to the schedule, which the CDC has been pushing, the number goes to 72 doses for children: http://www.cdc(dot)gov/vaccines/schedules/downloads/adult/adult-schedule.pdf.

    How will the government pull this off, it’s already begun. One of the game plans of NACCHO/ CDC/HHS and of course the vaccine industry, because their blockbuster drugs have hit their patents ceilings, Vaccines are their avenue to sustained profitability:
    For Struggling Pharma Market, Vaccines Offer Path to Revenue. The World Vaccines Market Is Predicted to Reach $45.1 billion in 2022 http://www(dot)genengnews.com/insight-and-intelligence/for-struggling-pharma-market-vaccines-offer-path-to-revenue/77900658/.
    The CDC and the vaccine makers will implement massive propaganda fear campaigns. Disney was one, the recent over saturation of media attention of the woman who died from pneumonia who also had measles which was discovered only on autopsy but turned into a dud when it was revealed she had been fully vaccinated and died of double cell pneumonia. Causation to the measles virus has never been established. The soccer player who developed mumps recently who also was fully vaccinated, the man who had chicken pox and the hospital shut down for hours until it was discovered he had two (2) viral strains of varicella in his system-which is a vaccine strain and other minor outbreaks and currently the ZIKA scare. All are part of the agenda outlined in this playbook: Roadmap for Action to Reach the Healthy People 2020 Goals for Adult Vaccination:
    http://www.naturalnews(dot)com/files/GSA-2013NAVPwhitepaper_final.pdf.

    The legislative actions are rooted in the Healthy People guidelines which began 40 years ago. In 1976, Congress created The Office of Disease Prevention and Health Promotion (ODPHP) to coordinate disease prevention and health promotion efforts across the United States. Three years later, Surgeon General Julius B Richmond chronicled the state of health in America, then defined five quantitative goals for public health. The document came to be referred to as Healthy People. With the help of Assistant Surgeon General Michael McGinnis, the formal publication was released in 1979. In 1980, a companion piece written by the Institutes of Medicine – Promoting Health/Preventing Disease: Objectives for the Nation – set forth 226 specific, measurable health objectives. This was the action plan for the Healthy People goals. These two documents, considered to be “landmarks” in the history of public health, became Healthy People 1990.

    A couple of the goals documented in the areas of health: achieve at least a 60% influenza vaccination rate among high-risk populations. Another was to fully vaccinate all children with MMR, polio and DTP by two years of age. In 2010, the current guidelines were released, framed as Healthy People 2020-https://www.healthypeople(dot)gov/. The latest recommendations are vast in scope and include government intrusion into nearly ever conceivable area of personal life and health.
    What started out as 15 topics and 226 objectives in 1990 has grown to 42 topics and more than 1,200 objectives for 2020.

    In 2010, partners from all over the world came together with a global commitment to immunization, declaring 2010 to 2020 as the Decade of Vaccines. There is no end in sight with at least 300 vaccines in the current developmental pipeline. http://www.phrma(dot)org/sites/default/files/pdf/Vaccines_2013.pdf. All these vaccines will not be for so called communicable illnesses BUT by them being classified as vaccines they have the same blanket liability as the other vaccines.

    U.S. National Vaccine Plan:
    In 2010, partners from all over the world came together with a global commitment to immunization, declaring 2010 to 2020 as the Decade of Vaccines. American children today receive 52 doses of 16 different vaccines before 6 years of age. There is no end in sight with at least 300 vaccines in the current developmental pipeline.

    The National Vaccine Plan,developed by the U.S. Department of Human Services (HSS) is the roadmap for a “21st century vaccine and immunization enterprise.” It lays bare unethical public-private relationship between the pharmaceutical vaccine manufacturers, the U.S. government and the World Health Community. The plan includes specific outlines and strategies for advancing vaccine R&D in conjunction with the NIH and FDA; calls for government guaranteed financing, supply, and distribution of vaccines; and requests funding for new pro-vaccine information pieces to be distributed consumers and health care providers.

    The National Vaccine Implementation Plan was designed to coordinate with Healthy People 2020.
    This plan outlines the goals and objectives to achieve increase vaccination over a 10-year period, with action steps, processes and measurable outcomes to be achieved between 2012 and 2015. The
    implementation plan has five broad objectives:

    -Develop new and improved vaccines
    -Enhance the vaccine safety system
    -Support communications to enhance informed vaccine decision-making
    -Ensure a stable supply of, access to and better use of recommended vaccines
    -Increase global prevention through vaccination

    In December, 2014, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation released a special report called Outbreaks: Protecting Americans from Infectious Diseases. The first 10 pages discuss Ebola, superbugs, tuberculosis, pandemic flu and *******mosquito-borne diseases****(ZIKA) the major infectious disease threats seen today. The document then transitions to a lengthy discussion about
    vaccines and the major risk of infection for unvaccinated children: http://healthyamericans(dot)org/assets/files/Final%20Outbreaks%202014%20Report.pdf.

    Elimination of Exemptions: The Playbook
    On page 75 of this document, the playbook for the current flurry of vaccination laws is succinctly and shockingly laid out. for validation of the content posted please go to the link and read for yourself.

    -Minimize vaccine exemptions: States should enact and enable universal childhood vaccinations except where immunization is medically contraindicated. Non-medical vaccine exemptions, including personal belief exemptions, enable higher rates of exemptions in those states that allow them [implying religious and philosophical exemptions should not be allowed.]

    -Increasing public education campaigns about the safety and effectiveness of vaccines: Federal, state and local health officials, in partnership with medical providers and community organizations, should conduct assertive campaigns about the importance of vaccines [hence, the measles media blitz]
    particularly stressing and demonstrating the safety and efficacy of immunizations. Targeted outreach should be made to high-risk groups and to racial and ethnic minority populations where the misperceptions aboutvaccines are particularly high.

    -Expand alternate delivery sites: The National Vaccine Advisory Committee (NVAC) has recommended including expansion of vaccination services offered by pharmacists and other community immunization providers, vaccination at the workplace, and increased vaccination by providers who care for pregnant women. (schools have vaccinated children without parental consent, Walgreens is not giving vaccines, WalMart and during the Disney False Flag there was a McDonald’s that was giving vaccines)

    -Bolstering immunization registries and tracking: States should take steps to integrate immunization registries and EHRs to help track when patients receive vaccines, improve information sharing across providers, remind providers to routinely provide recommended vaccinations, remind patients of vaccinations and address gaps.

    -Requiring universal immunization of healthcare personnel for all ACIP recommended vaccinations:
    According to a joint policy statement by the Association of Professional in Infection control and Epidemiology (APIC) and Society for Healthcare Epidemiology of America (SHEA), mandatory immunization programs are the most effective way to increase healthcare personnel vaccination
    rates. As such, the Societies support healthcare employee policies that require healthcare workers to demonstrate immunity or document receipt of ACIP-recommended vaccinations as a condition of employment, unpaid service [volunteers will be vaccinated], or receipt of professional privileges [doctors vaccinated to work].

    The objectives in Healthy People 2020 represent the massive expansion of a nanny-state government, intent on taking over every area of a person’s life and eliminating health choices. The legislative moves we are fighting were set in motion many years ago.

  • guest

    While the CDC has you focused on a Zika outbreak, the presidential clown show and other distractions of the day, they have been busy with other matters. The CDC wants to be granted full authority over all Americans during the event of a disease outbreak that leads to a mass quarantine. The document, Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM), is “open for comment” from the general public until October 14, 2016. Google DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES 42 CFR Parts 70 and 71 [CDC Docket No. CDC–2016–0068] RIN 0920–AA63 Control of Communicable Diseases. The 88 page document should open.

    The CDC is trying to skirt around Congress—again—from dissecting the proposed rule changes, debating them, voting on them, and making some or all of them into law, such a flagrant power grab by the Centers of Disease Control (CDC) was designed to shrink the timeline for public discourse, while giving the appearance that the changes are minor, just simple adjustments from existing law on the agency’s limited authority in the event of a communicable disease emergency.

    Published in mid August and buried the NPRM, if approved, would elevate the CDC’s power to the Fourth military-intelligence agency in the United States, right behind the NSA, CIA, and the Department of Defense (DoD).

    Such extraordinary powers would lead to a draconian abuse of U.S. citizens’ lives, livelihood, privacy, freedom, liberty, health, wellbeing, among other countless, unintended consequences and lesser indignities.

    In short, the CDC will take full authorship of your life.
    You have until October 14, 2016 to voice your opinion at the HHS website.
    The fact that many of them wear uniforms should have been a dead give away the direction the CDC was going in.

  • Jesus baby

    So many anti-vax tropes, so little time. If the CDC whistleblower thing had any teeth, Brian Hooker’s analysis of the supposedly suppressed data wouldn’t have been retracted. Japan removed HPV from their schedule due to public pressure, not science. If thousands of people in Brazil are protesting HPV they aren’t really anti-science but don’t understand science. The reason for the vaccine court is because without it U.S. pharmaceutical companies would have stopped producing vaccines due to all the frivolous lawsuits, which are encouraged by anti-science sites like this one and 9 of the 14 the author of this article chose to reference.

  • Marshall

    Looking over your comments it’s obvious that you are a big pharma troll using nothing but big pharma talking points void of any facts or real science. I don’t feed trolls, so, all I can say to you is have fun spreading your disinformation.People on sites like this are not vaccine zombies and aren’t easily manipulated by big pharma’s scare tactics.

  • Jesus baby

    Don’t counter anything I said of course. And looking over your comments I see you believe in…chemtrails.

  • Gol Deanu

    You keep pushing the idea of VACCINE SCIENCE is bulletproof and you sign with “JESUS baby” – that’s totally moronic and both have something in common, they are belief systems and have nothing to do with reality. People on this site have a bad habit to use their brain to think, you don’t belong to this category so why don’t you leave us alone. Try a new shot at CVS…

  • First of all, this is not about me. This is about the subject matter of vaccine safety, and the subject matter involves the issue of what studies exist, and what studies are yet long needed to be done. You have provided absolutely nothing here to substantiate why such studies are pointless. There is no reason not to do those studies, and with unbiased independent over-sight. That way no one could they they were biased and a cover-up. There as well is no reason such studies would be unethical, as there is already a large existing number of childfren in the US who continue to have vaccine exemptions. The non-vaccinating Amish as well could have been studied already years ago for those resulting health outcome comparisons to the fully vaccinated, and largely they do not vaccinate. One small fear mongered upon group of Amish that vaccinated, does not constitute the entire population of them. There are no existing excuses left, for not doing those studies as to resulting health outcomes

    You have more false excuses than you ever have any honest truth and logic, so called, Jesus baby. And why can you not as well respond with the other vaccine safety studies, that I asked for? Just admit that they do not exist.

  • So, instead of actually responding with anything of substance here, you simply change the subject matter to something else. Your efforts at false discreditation again will get you nowhere.

    Just look in the sky. Do you actually think those are condensation trails. Trails of condensation typically seen behind large aircraft, evaporates a short time later, The trails do not linger in the sky, for extended periods of time, and like chemtrails do. Normally as well, standard aircraft do not leave multiple parallel lines in the sky and which are doubled over again from the opposite direction.

    Chemtrails Killing Organic Crops, Monsanto’s GMO Seeds Thrive
    http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/chemtrails-killing-organic-crops-monsantos-gmo-seeds-thrive/

    The evidence of the spraying of chemtrails and its weather altering, changing, and damaging effects.
    http://www.wnd.com/author/gnoory/

    HAARP – Chemtrails – How They are Change You – Bioengineering
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5y1WorkLJw&app=desktop

    Geo Engineering Documentary 2015 (This is a must watch)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD2lABk16qE

    Smelling and Tasting Chemtrails
    http://globalskywatch.com/stories/my-chemtrail-story/chemtrail-information/smelling-and-tasting-chemtrails.html#.V4mb6FQrIdV

  • One of them of course is the CDC’s, Paul Offit.

    Offit is about as unscientifically mislead, and biologically illiterate, as a monkey chasing its tail.

    Dr. Paul Offit’s Aluminum Deceptions and Academic Misconduct
    http://vaccinepapers.org/dr-paul-offits-aluminum-deceptions-academic-misconduct/

    Aluminum

    Debunking Aluminum Adjuvant, Part 1
    Debunking Aluminum Adjuvant, Part 2
    The Foundation for Al Adjuvant Safety Is False
    RETRACTED PAPER: Brain Damage from Al Adjuvant and Gardasil
    UPDATE: Adjuvant Transport Gets Complicated
    Aluminum Adjuvant Injection Experiment #1: 100mcg/kg
    Aluminum Adjuvant Injection Experiment #2: 300mcg/kg
    Aluminum Adjuvant Injection Experiment #3: 550mcg/kg
    Toxic Aluminum Overdose From Vaccines
    Dr. Paul Offit’s Aluminum Deceptions and Academic Misconduct
    Vaccine Aluminum Travels Into The Brain
    Natural, Science-Based Treatment for Aluminum Toxicity

    Immune Activation

    Response to Charges of “Cherry-Picking” (List of Abstracts)
    New Kid On The Block: IL-17a
    Two Vaccines With Opposite Effects On Brain Development
    Part 1: Immune Activation and Autism
    Part 2: Interleukin-6 and Autism
    Part 3: Immune Activation Causes Autism in Monkeys
    Part 4: Postnatal Immune Activation
    Part 5: Vaccines and IL-6

    http://vaccinepapers.org/

  • So then why are not big pharma and their minions actually using that known scientific method, in regard to their studies and as well the drug and vaccine clinical trials? What as well are they scared of finding out, when they do not use a true saline placebo in the systemic outcome comparisons, between the vaccinated and placebo groups?

  • Jesus baby

    You created an account to say that?

  • Jesus baby

    It wouldn’t matter because you’d just say the study was “obviously COOKED” or something else just as stupid.
    Do you believe randomization is important in clinical trials? Do you know what that means?

  • Jesus baby

    Lol another chemtrail believer.
    I don’t care if Thompson was lying or just naive. Either way a) no data was destroyed and b) it doesn’t show a link between MMR and autism.
    Unless you want to believe Hooker’s paper was retracted due to a conspiracy. Like…chemtrails.

  • Jesus baby

    Yes dumb a$$, the more you copy/paste the smarter you look.

  • Jesus baby

    Like you know I’ve already said a) it’s unethical and b) anti-vaxxers wouldn’t believe it anyway.

  • AutismDadd

    You won’t find me getting any of these medical miracles. I like being healthy.

  • AutismDadd

    More pro-vaccine whining. Always against further research.

  • AutismDadd

    Hilarious.

  • AutismDadd

    Ah…all the pro-vac slogans and lingo.

  • AutismDadd

    How lame and juvenile. As Marshall points out, you are just spreading misinfo

  • AutismDadd

    A vague, useless blanket statement.

  • AutismDadd

    That all you have? What? No actual evidence?

  • AutismDadd

    Everyone was thinking it.

  • So is that again the best false excuse you can come up with? And again what part of this do you not understand; the studies are NOT about, me. You can post those requested studies as I outlined, for the readers here as well. Why is it that you can not just admit that those studies have never been done? I don’t think you even actually have a clue, if they exist or not. And if you do know that none of those studies exist, and that none have ever been done; then you are simply deflecting away from it and the studies issue, as a personal issue with me; and which it is not.

    Listen up, J baby. I don’t just say it, I provide evidence for it, and prove it. Did you read that analysis? Of course you didn’t, and as all you are here to do is talk your trash and actually do a poor job of attempting to re-parroting a few pro-vax talking points. Go up currently 5 posts above this one, and actually review that information, and report back on what you read and learned? All studies are based on their own merits, and regardless of which side they come from. That, until a substantial analysis is directly made on it, as to the study. I can do that; try me.

  • You can’t keep on re-parroting the same false pro-vax talking points that have already been explained, and shown to be false. Plenty of un-vaccinated children, and with vaccine exemptions exist, to do that vaccinated verses un-vaccinated health outcome study. As well with the exception of number 6, none of those needed vaccine safety studies in my expose 1 thru 9, can be claimed to require un-vaccinated individuals. Why can’t you come up with any answers; and nor as to why such vaccine safety studies, are not obviously needed? You know that I am putting forth the truth, and that your answers, are pathetic.

  • You have to prove a claim, to make a claim here, so called, J baby. Nothing could be any more anti-science than the CDC, AAP, and Paul Offit. What you claim to is nothing more than a falsely indoctrinated, delusion. As to what I post here on this sites articles, I show the evidence of that, all the time. What have you actually contributed here? The answer is, absolutely nothing.

  • Jesus baby

    How many years do you think a vaxxed/unvaxxed study would take? What if the schedule changed during such a study? Do they just start over? Why do such a study when the risk of serious reactions is less than 1 in 1,000,000 anyway? And why do it when a fringe group of anti-science morons like you would never accept the results anyway?

  • Jesus baby

    How can a study like that be randomized? Again, do you even understand what that means?

  • AutismDadd

    Huge cop out. Avoidance is a common reaction to requests that will knowingly show the truth.

  • Jesus baby

    You constantly make claims here that are just stupid.

  • AutismDadd

    Hey your’s is no peach buster.

  • Jesus baby

    Just reading his spam is all the evidence anyone needs.

  • Jesus baby

    Ditto.

  • Jesus baby

    And don’t you counter anything either.

  • AutismDadd

    Cop Out/avoidance. Must be afraid it will rain on your dysfunctional parade

  • Jesus baby

    Lol

  • AutismDadd

    Thanks for agreeing with me. You may have a bright future after all

  • Jesus baby

    You don’t understand it any more than he does.

  • Jesus baby

    Lol OK whatever A-dad.

  • AutismDadd

    Wah. But I don’t make nonsense statements of the type you do. You are obviously a conspiracy nut

  • AutismDadd

    Another cop-out

  • AutismDadd

    Yea you are funny

  • Jesus baby

    Yeah like the global vaccine conspiracy right?

  • AutismDadd

    Ok explain, and leave nothing out.

  • Jesus baby

    Yes well it looks like he doesn’t know he’s posting a retracted study for starters.

  • Prove it. You can’t. You just continue to talk your trash. I have as well directly shown you, what you need to address. So instead of that, all you will do is continue to make more false and pathetic posted claims. The vaccine issue is not about the continuance of attempting to antagonize me, It is about the vaccine issue, alone.

  • Jesus baby

    You just said the CDC, AAP and Offit could not be more anti-science.

  • AutismDadd

    Now he’ll know and can respond. No one supplies more information than Lowell, so pay attention.

  • AutismDadd

    Yes just like your global vaccine conspiracy. Its called medical consensus by the way.

  • So you think that the reality of all that, chemtrails and HARP, is funny to you? No evidence would be enough for person like you that must remain in strict denial. You really are a beyond pathetic, soul.

    To even begin to think that what was stated by the CDC’s William Thompson, to Brain Hooker, was lying or just naive; is the most ignorant, stupid, and the biggest and most obvious lie, you could ever tell. Actually the conversation was as well recorded.

    Dr. Brian Hooker’s official statement regarding William Thompson
    April 26, 2016
    https://www.focusforhealth.org/dr-brian-hooker-statement-william-thompson/

  • Jesus baby

    Well that’s true.

  • Jesus baby

    Good evidence can be influential, but not the crap you post. As for Thompson, what CDC data was destroyed again? And if the data showed an MMR/autism link why did Hooker fail so badly? A big conspiracy?

  • There is the evidence right in front of you, that Paul Offit is the one of the most anti-science vaccine advocates that has ever been. Those as well by no means, are not all the existing studies regarding aluminum vaccine adjuvants, and as to showing the harm that they do to human health. Who is the real … dumb …s?

  • If you think you understand it so much better, then by all means go ahead and show and prove your claim? For how many more of your cheap, pathetic, and worthless posts, will we be waiting? Or, is it only about getting paid to post, your trash?

  • Jesus baby

    Just copy/paste a single study proving aluminum in vaccines harms human health. C’mon, which excuse are you going to use?

  • Jesus baby

    Listen to the Mercola shill whine.

  • I am not here to educate you. You need to do that, before you reply. I as well just posted what data was destroyed and disregarded in that study. Read the article.

  • It is already in the information above, and there are referenced studies that go with all of it. If you have refused that, then it is a waste of time to provide any more; and there are plenty of them. Why have you not done your own independent research? I will tell you why; it will destroy your ability to stay in denial. So you just simply and keep holding onto only the existing false vaccine propaganda.

  • So that was the best you could do? I bet all the readers will be very impressed, with that?

  • Jesus baby

    Don’t worry, I’d never accuse you of educating anyone. So if you’d actually read Hooker’s paper someday you’d learn he had all the data you claim was destroyed and he got it from…the CDC. So where’s your controversy now?

  • Jesus baby

    Oh so it’s in there somewhere then. Right.

  • Jesus baby

    What does he pay you, like a dollar every time you copy/paste one of his advertisements?

  • Where did I post that, and in which post? You can’t even focus on what is really going on here, and as to what actually has been recently posted. So you deflect from it, and simply evade it, by any means that you can attempt to come up with. You are again not addressing anything that I posted above. Both I and AutismDadd told you you couldn’t do it, and you haven’t.

  • So you answer the question I asked you, with the stupidity of another shifting the focus back on me, question. Quite obviously I have no connections to any income whatsoever as to what I do here; or anywhere else, as to the vaccine truth issues. No one at Mercola would even know who I am.

  • What did you create an account, to do? Obviously it was not to reply to posts here, with anything with actual counter evidence, and substance in it.

  • So you are pleading deliberate and willful ignorance? You are doing that even though the information is right in front of you, and while you remain to lazy to ever review it, and to acknowledge what is there? How is that working out for you? Obviously not very well. So who do you think you are somehow still misleading? You do the pro-vax agenda far more harm than good.

  • Jesus baby

    Well what does “retracted paper” in all caps mean to you?

  • Jesus baby

    So you just post Mercola advertisements for free?

  • AutismDadd

    Buh Wah Ha Ha…

  • Jesus baby

    Look I know you get paid to do this, but this guy I just don’t get.

  • Jesus baby

    Look I know and you know you can’t do it. One study…vaccines…aluminum…human harm.

  • Jesus baby

    I know right?

  • Thompson had kept hard copies of the destroyed data, and that was where it came from; not the CDC. That provides for yet an obvious controversy. So what does your post at all do, to actually address anything at all here?

    Thompson stated:

    I regret my co-authors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before 36 months were at increased risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data was collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed.

    My concern has been the decision to omit relevant findings in a particular study for a particular sub-group for a particular vaccine. There have always been recognized risks for vaccination and I believe it is the responsibility of the CDC to properly convey the risks associated with the receipt of those vaccines.

    I have had many discussions with Dr. Brian Hooker over the last 10 months regarding studies the CDC has carried out regarding vaccines and neurodevelopmental outcomes including autism spectrum disorders. I share his belief that CDC decision-making analyses should be transparent. I was not, however, aware that he was recording any of our conversations, nor was I given any choice regarding whether my name would be made public or my voice would be put on the Internet.

    (So obviously he knew that significant data was ignored and destroyed, and which would have changed the outcome of the study)

    Measles-mumps-rubella vaccination timing and autism among young african american boys: a reanalysis of CDC data
    http://translationalneurodegeneration.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2047-9158-3-16

  • And that is a fact. A fact based on all the existing independent studies that show us what is really happening with vaccines; studies they ignore. A fact based on as well the 9 questions regarding the vaccine safety studies, that I posted for you.

  • Jesus baby

    Read the methods section about cohort data. Just the first sentence. What did you learn?

  • Jesus baby

    Your opinions aren’t facts. You think you know more about science than the CDC, the AAP and Paul Offit. And you believe in chemtrails. Right?

  • Again, all you are offering is just more false excuses, and another load of obvious BS. You as well have no evidence whatsoever that those looking for the vaccine truth answers here, would not accept the study outcome. The outcome of that study will in fact show that the un-vaccinated are far more healthy. That is just common sense, and as well previous similar studies have clearly shown exactly that. There are no issues as to how long the study should be, but the longer the better, and with reporting of the data done, periodically. Any change in the CDC vaccine schedule would be small and would not effect the outcome of the study. Or are you saying that adding more vaccines will increase the obvious effect that the un-vaccinated will be found to be vastly more healthy? That would be pretty much irrelevant, and if the previous vaccine schedule was showing the same thing.

    You just simply make it up as you go.

  • These aren’t just opinions, and at some point they should become obvious fact for you. You refuse it, and deliberately so you can yet remain in denial.

    I can and have shown that what the CDC claims to is their vaccine safety science, is largely inadequate. Not only inadequate, but shown to be nothing but population based, junk science. I have as well posted many independent studies showing directly what the CDC is missing as to the existing and available studies, and which show directly what is really going on. You trolling shills can answer to and/or refute, none of it.

  • Jesus baby

    Talk about randomization. Why is it important? How would you deal with that?

  • Jesus baby

    You’re just blowing sunshine. This isn’t something you can learn Googling anti-vaccine sites.

  • Why was it a “restricted access data set”? That, when it should have been open access information? So you are admitting that this information was not available until it was revealed that Thompson had saved hard copies? So what choice would the CDC have but to provide that data if they still had it? No cover up, and nothing to see here, folks.

    Cohort data

    Cohort data were obtained directly as a “restricted access data set” from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) via a Data Use Agreement. Data were deidentified by the CDC in accordance with Family Education Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) and the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) prior to receipt by the study authors. Use of the CDC specifically for the study described herein was approved by the Simpson University Institutional Review Board, in accordance with U.S. Federal regulations.

  • The only one blowing false sunshine, and more complete BS here, is you. Directly reply where that has been provided, and where you actually have been unable to. Just face it, you have nothing.

  • Providing for randomization in such studies is not an issue. If so, you tell me why? Actually answer my questions in my post above. Do not just answer questions, with only the same stupid question, that you originated your post from.

  • It means nothing. It never should have been retracted.

    Have you seen this movie? Why not?

    Vaxxed: From Cover-Up to Catastrophe Official Website
    http://vaxxedthemovie.com/

  • Jesus baby

    Reading it for the first time, huh? It’s different than just copy/pasting isn’t it? How did Hooker get the data from the CDC if the CDC destroyed it, genius? And restricted just means no personal identifying information about the kids was given.
    You don’t have the background to be giving medical advise. Ever. To anyone. Stick to chemtrail conspiracy sites. I don’t think you could cause much harm to people that way.

  • Jesus baby

    It’s amazing how you can be so arrogant. You of all people.

  • There was no directly intended advertisement to it. You know very well that all that was taking place at the time, involved a posting controversy as to the use of sunscreens, and a direct ingredient list comparison between toxic, and far more natural sunscreen products. He just happened to have some.

  • Jesus baby

    So randomization is unimportant in clinical trials?

  • Jesus baby

    In your opinion it should never have been retracted? Why do you think it was retracted?

  • Just more false harassment and antagonizing on your part. You know that between us three, that you are the only one likely being paid. Either that, or you simply have a personal vendetta, against me. Absent of that, you are obviously just simply paid to post the trash that you do.

  • For the same and similar reasons that Wakefield’s 1998 Lancet study was retracted. They must silence the critics; and regardless of that that takes.

  • Jesus baby

    So you either believe Mercola sunscreen advertisements are good sources of information or you’re too uneducated to recognize they are Mercola sunscreen advertisements or you get paid to post Mercola sunscreen advertisements. Which is it?

  • Jesus baby

    But you’re the one posting Mercola sunscreen advertisements.

  • No one said it was not possible for the CDC to have somehow retained a copy. It obviously took some work to get it. And no, it is not the first time I have read through that study. So you conveniently forgot to answer my question. If Thompson had not had the data evidence in hard copies, what would have been the odds that the CDC, or anyone else would have revealed the existence of that said data, and which was obviously excluded from original study?

  • Jesus baby

    Exactly. It’s a big conspiracy, isn’t it? Like chemtrails.

  • Jesus baby

    So you’re admitting the CDC didn’t destroy the data?

  • More personal attacks? I see your desperation arising. And why is that; (you of all people)? It is not arrogance, to present with the truth. Selective ignorance, intellectual dishonesty, and as well cognitive dissonance; is obviously what your world revolves around.

  • I did not say that. Answer the question, and quit deflecting from it, and avoiding it.

  • The ignored and destroyed the data, at the time the study was done. It was not included in the study, and they contrived and attempted to hide that data. It is actually irrelevant, as to where that data went, and as to who yet had access to it. It doesn’t appear that even William Thompson knew if anyone else had saved that disregarded data, and other than him.

  • How can you continue to be that intentionally and deliberately stupid? Anything at all, to continue to make a false and baseless, and again antagonizing accusation. Descriptions of toxic and/or harmful ingredients in sunscreen products, and verses more natural ingredients that are far less harmful, and in other non over the counter products; is a major problem for you? Why is that? You should change your character name, to Stupid baby.

  • More like an obvious fact. In your world, a theory never becomes fact, and no matter how strong the evidence; and if that comes from the vaccine truth side of it. How much do they pay the sickest trolls, like you? Is that a weekly paycheck? Or do you get paid cash? And what would you list on your tax forms, as an occupation?

  • Jesus baby

    Then try presenting the truth.

  • Jesus baby

    So it IS important?

  • And you are the one yet to stupid to give it up. Apparently it doesn’t matter how foolish you make yourself look.

  • Jesus baby

    But they didn’t destroy the data, right? I mean they gave it to Hooker per his own paper. Right?

  • So is your only goal here, to present with only more false harassment, and antagonization?

  • Jesus baby

    So you’re saying Mercola sunscreen advertisements are a good source of data. Right?

  • Jesus baby

    Wait, so I’m clear…which is the vaccine truth side again?

  • Jesus baby

    Do you feel guilty being a Mercola shill, or do you just see it as a job?

  • Of course, and I have never said it wasn’t. And why would they do it any other way? Now answer my question. Why do you think and or claim that such randomized vaccine safety studies, can not be done? Refer as well to the 9 questions, regarding those needed studies.

  • Jesus baby

    I’m just asking you to be truthful.

  • So you want to continue to worm and weasel you way around this study issue, and all while presenting more twisted questions of irrelevance, and simply while continuing to avoiding the real issues. What did William Thompson, state? Did you read it? All you really need to realize is that the data was intentionally disregarded, and withheld from the original study.

  • You are wasting my time, in even continuing to read your posted trash.

  • There is obviously no guilt in providing real, and quality health care information; and regardless of what source that comes from. And do you feel guilty about the babies dying of SIDS, caused by over-vaccination? How about what should you say to the many families with severely vaccine injured children? “Sorry, we didn’t do it”. “You can’t prove that we did it, and you can’t sue us either”. “We take responsibility for nothing; and its all just another coincidence, and a conspiracy theory”. Sounds like an insane person, talking?

  • Point directly to where I have not been, and where you have been? That is easy for me, and as that misleading dishonesty is found in every post that you make.

  • Damo

    You have yet to post evidence. Your 9 questions are BALONEY! You have never linked to science, you post court decisions, blogs with embedded advertising, and opinion pieces from discredited frauds.

    When you start posting evidence, then you can talk.

  • Damo

    Wow, you sure know how to deflect. You are insane.

    Oh, excuse me, I take that back, you are not insane. You are a shill and are desperately trying to hold onto any credibility, because you have been exposed as a shill. Try not shilling for the deplorable people who lie about vaccines.

    Go shill for something harmless, like cotton candy. Everyone loves cotton candy.

  • Damo

    The Amish are vaccinated. Right there, all credibility goes out the window. When you continue to lie about an entire population, you lose credibility. Get over it.

  • guest

    I’m seeing all over the net articles where the authorities are saying adults need to catch up on their vaccines-especially pregnant women. This was posted on the FDA’s website back in 2013 byt of course never made it to the MSM:

    -Meeting of the Board of Scientific Counselors, Office of Infectious Diseases Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Tom Harkins Global Communication Center Atlanta, Georgia December 11-12, 2013.
    FDA issued a warning regarding this crucial finding. Furthermore, the 2013 meeting of the Board of Scientific Counselors at the CDC revealed additional alarming data that pertussis variants (PRN negative strains) currently circulating in the USA acquired a selective advantage to infect those who are up to date for their DTap boosters (see appendix) for the CDC document Item#3), meaning that people who are up to date are more likely to be infected and thus contagious than people who are not vaccinated.

    There are studies that support this:
    Study titled: “Acellular Pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a nonhuman primate model,” used infant baboons to test the hypothesis that “current acellular pertussis vaccines fail to prevent colonization and transmission” of B. Pertussis. (there is no vaccine for Bordetella Pertussis virus) http://www.pnas (dot) org/content/111/2/787.

    Lead author Tod Merkel did comment to the New York Times that when exposed to B. Pertussis after recently getting vaccinated, you could be an asymptomatic carrier and infect others, saying: “When you’re newly vaccinated, you are an asymptomatic carrier, which is good for you, but not for the population.” According to Tod Merkel of the FDA, it has now become clear that the vaccine does almost nothing to prevent the spread of whooping cough. Although it does seem to prevent about 80 percent of people from showing symptoms of the disease, it does not prevent them from catching it or spreading it.

    -Study: Whooping cough resurgence due to vaccinated people not knowing they’re infectious? clinicalnews(dot)org/2015/06/24/study-whooping-cough-resurgence-due-to-vaccinated-people-not-knowing-theyre-infectious/comment-page-1/. From study/article:
    “a detailed epidemiological model of whooping cough transmission to conclude that acellular vaccines may well have contributed to — even exacerbated — the recent pertussis outbreak by allowing infected individuals without symptoms to unknowingly spread pertussis multiple times in their lifetimes.

    ‘There could be millions of people out there with just a minor cough or no cough spreading this potentially fatal disease without knowing it,’ said Althouse. ‘The public health community should act now to better assess the true burden of pertussis infection.’ What’s worse, their model shows that if the disease can be spread through vaccinated, asymptomatic individuals essentially undetected.

  • Jesus baby

    So how is selecting 1 group just because they’re unvaccinated a randomized study? What is random about that?

  • Jesus baby

    But…you admit the data wasn’t destroyed, right?

  • Jesus baby

    Hard to tell.

  • Jesus baby

    You definitely sound insane, yes!

  • Jesus baby

    Well like when you said the CDC, AAP and Paul Offit couldn’t be more anti-science and all.

  • Go ahead and provide you evidence for that?

    The majority of Amish do not vaccinate. All you base that false claim on is the exploitation factors of a small group of Amish that were fear mongered into vaccinating, and when several of their children then developed autism, they then ended up at a clinic that diagnoses, and treats autism.

    The Amish Don’t Get Autism but They Do Get Bio-Terrorism
    http://healthwyze.org/reports/295-the-amish-dont-get-autism-but-they-do-get-bio-terrorism

  • How is that not actually randomization? Of course there as well has to be a comparison group, known as those that are fully vaccinated. Your reply again, does nothing to answer my question.

  • Let me ask you this as well. Is there any intended significance, as to your character name?

    It is entirely within your rights to be an atheist. However it is not within your rights, to offend Christian believers of various religions, with an inflammatory character name such as you have, and that which borderlines on near to being and representing blasphemy.

  • Jesus baby

    You don’t even know what a randomized clinical trial is.

  • Jesus baby

    Thought you were all about “vaccine truth”.

  • Obviously, and by what you have reply posted here; you don’t understand what randomized means, and how it relates to properly done vaccine safety studies. All you ever offer is more of your borderline to being possibly inebriated, and diatribe based nonsense.

  • Really? Show us the evidence of that, and regarding your claim that I do not know what randomized is? How dumb can you actually get?

    And when are you going to actually answer my question, instead of continuing to evade it? The question is, why can not a vaccinated verses unvaccinated health outcomes study, be randomized. You insist that it can not be. As for as well the 1 through 9 questions that were put in front of you, as to the existing and obviously further needed vaccine safety studies. Which of those as well do you feel can not be randomized; and explain why?

  • So you refuse to respond to the question. You want to make it all largely and only about me, in your replies. But obviously that is not acceptable to you when the scoop shovel is slambed into your head, and from the other, and my direction. Answer the question.

  • No, what I posted is a realistic example of your own existing in denial insanity; not mine. Get it?

  • Article would be persuasive and useful if it had scientific citations.

  • Hard to tell, what? Lets do something productive, and have you tell us about the significance of your character name?

  • Again, you are attempting to censor and limit the study science. It is not just one single study, but the combined and actual bulwark of existing studies. What if the CDC was limited to only one study, as to their evidence. They provide everything that they have, and still they have literally nothing to show actual evidence of vaccine safety; and even more-so in regard to the multiple vaccines on the current CDC vaccine schedule. My 9 questions as to the existing vaccine safety studies post, clearly as well pointed that out.

    Autism Spectrum Disorders and Aluminum Vaccine Adjuvants
    Lucija Tomljenovic, Russell L. Blaylock, Christopher A. Shaw

    Abstract
    Impaired brain function, excessive inflammation, and autoimmune manifestations are common in autism. Aluminum (Al), the most commonly used vaccine adjuvant, is a demonstrated neurotoxin and a strong immune stimulator. Hence, adjuvant Al has the necessary properties to induce neuroimmune disorders. Because peripheral immune stimuli in the postnatal period can compromise brain development and cause permanent neurological impairments, the possibility that such outcomes could also occur with administration of Al vaccine adjuvants needs to be considered. In regard to the risk of adjuvant toxicity in children, the following should be noted: (i) children should not be viewed as “small adults” as their unique physiology makes them more vulnerable to toxic insults; (ii) in adult humans Al adjuvants can cause a variety of serious autoimmune and inflammatory conditions including those affecting the brain, yet children are routinely exposed to much higher amounts of Al from vaccines than adults; (iii) compelling evidence has underscored the tight connection between the development of the immune system and that of the brain. Thus, it appears plausible that disruptions of critical events in immune development may also play a role in the establishment of neurobehavioral disorders; (iv) the same immune system components that play key roles in brain development appear to be targeted for impairment by Al adjuvants. In summary, research data suggests that vaccines containing Al may be a contributing etiological factor in the increasing incidence of autism.

    http://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007%2F978-1-4614-4788-7_89

  • Again, you pick just one study, and they are all referenced to in the informational articles, right here.

    Vaccine Papers

    Aluminum

    Debunking Aluminum Adjuvant, Part 1
    Debunking Aluminum Adjuvant, Part 2
    The Foundation for Al Adjuvant Safety Is False
    RETRACTED PAPER: Brain Damage from Al Adjuvant and Gardasil
    UPDATE: Adjuvant Transport Gets Complicated
    Aluminum Adjuvant Injection Experiment #1: 100mcg/kg
    Aluminum Adjuvant Injection Experiment #2: 300mcg/kg
    Aluminum Adjuvant Injection Experiment #3: 550mcg/kg
    Toxic Aluminum Overdose From Vaccines
    Dr. Paul Offit’s Aluminum Deceptions and Academic Misconduct
    Vaccine Aluminum Travels Into The Brain
    Natural, Science-Based Treatment for Aluminum Toxicity

    Immune Activation

    Response to Charges of “Cherry-Picking” (List of Abstracts)
    New Kid On The Block: IL-17a
    Two Vaccines With Opposite Effects On Brain Development
    Part 1: Immune Activation and Autism
    Part 2: Interleukin-6 and Autism
    Part 3: Immune Activation Causes Autism in Monkeys
    Part 4: Postnatal Immune Activation
    Part 5: Vaccines and IL-6

    http://vaccinepapers.org/

  • Again, the 9 questions are relating to asking YOU for the needed and specific study evidence of vaccine safety. Clearly outlined as well are explanations as to why those studies are necessary, as to any conclusion of vaccine safety; and as to why they are long over-due. The only thing here that amounts to actual so called “BALONEY”, is your inability to answer even a single one of those direct questions as to the existing vaccine safety study science. Unlike you, I actually reference here to real scientific studies which show the harm of vaccines; and you can make denial that all you want.

    Obviously you refuse to see and acknowledge that the same old typical talking points used by the standard trolling shills, have simply and only repeatedly failed you here. You couldn’t look any more continued in denial, and foolish here; if you deliberately tried to be.

  • Your level of actually deflecting, and your despicable level personal sickness here, and as a trolling shill; can not even begin to be compared to what I put forth for information and as to what I do on this sites, articles.

    And you call me, insane? That claim would actually be funny; if it were not so in denial, and falsely attacking pathetic.

  • And again and as I said; I have clearly shown that to be a fact. You have refused, and ignored all of it as to that evidence.

  • It obviously does have multiple scientific citations, and which back every bit of analysis information, in those articles. So just admit that you are lying, and as well that you using a false character image, directed to be that of Vaccine Papers. How beyond pathetic can you trolls actually get?

  • Jesus baby

    You don’t understand what a randomized clinical trial even is. Why are you here pretending to be an expert?

  • Jesus baby

    You think doing a study by dividing groups into vaxxed vs unvaxxed is randomized. You think we can get one group from the Amish or something.

  • Jesus baby

    And you’re just trying to make it all about me, you hypocrite.

  • Jesus baby

    No I think you’re loonie tunes.

  • Jesus baby

    Hard to tell? Lol. Hard to tell you feel I’m wasting your time. You can’t get enough of me! I’m straight, BTW.

  • Jesus baby

    “It’s not just one single study…”
    Translation: I can’t find one, but if I spam a lot of crap with related key words in the titles I can say , “Nothing would ever be enough!”

  • Jesus baby

    So you spam the same nonsense.

  • Jesus baby

    I’m sure in your mind you have clearly proven everything.

  • Damo

    You keep saying that you put forth information but all anyone ever sees is insults and shilling.

  • Damo

    The only thing you reference to are the blogs you are paid to direct people to.

  • Damo

    I know the Amish, some have married into my family. There was a targeted education program in the 80s about vaccines to the Amish, and I personally knew the man that administered the vaccine.

    You ask for proof then post a link to a blog. That is factually incorrect. The Amish grow their own vegetables,that is true, but not organically. They use GMOs, sprays, whatever else we use.

  • Damo

    Just don’t ask him to post a link to your advertiement filled blog, he may expect something in return. Since he doesn’t shill for money or for free.

  • Damo

    Once again, if you read those papers (and the links are on the Vaccine Papers website) critically, you will see that they are not saying what you think they are saying.

  • Damo

    That article is terribly wrong. I grew up in Lancaster County. I know Amish, some Amish have married into my family. An ex saw plenty of them when she was a peds nurse (they come to the hospital just like we do, they just pay cash and don’t use insurance). I personally met the man who began pushing for vaccinations in the Amish community. Also, google german measles.

    The Amish do not necessarily eat only organic (you can see them in Wal Mart for crying out loud!). They do grow their own vegetables, but they aren’t afraid to use GMOs or RoundUp.

    This passage from your source is really shameful:

    “When the Amish are simply left alone, to live free of chemical toxins found in our medicines and foods, they are not plagued with diseases, learning disabilities, or autism. They are categorically more intelligent, with the exception of advanced writing skills, which is explained by the fact that English is not their primary language. Could it be those same Amish “super genes” at work again? Society could learn greatly from their example, if we would only stop poisoning ourselves, and our children on a routine basis.”

    Learning disabilities in the Amish community are rapant–this is due more with inbreeding then anything else, unfortunately nearly everyone is related to each other so finding a wife that isn’t your cousin can be hard. I don’t judge them for that–it is a fact of living in a closed community. English is their primary language–they happen to be bilingual the other language is Pennsylvania Dutch, which is actually a dialect of German. The reason they don’t have advanced writing skills is because they only go to the 8th grade. The Amish do not have super genes. The fact that you posted this nonsense tells more about your critical thinking skills than anything else.

    The following are some sources that debunk that article. And since you love blogs we will start with them:

    http://amishamerica.com/health/#immunization

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish_anomaly

    https://www.verywell.com/amish-vaccinate-autism-rates-lower-3971479

    http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/01/why-are-anti-vaxxers-rallying-behind-the-amish/384151/

    Now, those were all secondary sources. Let’s get to the primary sources:

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jrh.12019/full

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16888610

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17133167

    http://journals.lww.com/pidj/abstract/1992/11110/rubella_among_the_amish__resurgent_disease_in_a.10.aspx

    http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/108/4/e60.short

    http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/163/1/12.short

    Notice that all of these studies state that the Amish are not against vaccination, however you are correct in that they do vaccinate at lower levels. Also notice how many of these studies look at contagious disease in those under-vaccinated communities.

    However this one ( http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707000110 ) says: “The first is the recent identification of a rare recessive mutation in CNTNAP2 that segregates with seizures, developmental language delay, and autism in an extended Amish kindred. ”

    Which is basically calling the premise that Amish don’t get autistism a lie.

    I would also advise you to read pages 69-71 of this girl’s thesis:

    http://scholarworks.gsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1085&context=anthro_theses

    Donald Kraybill is probably the most respected researcher about the plain communities.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Kraybill

    Now, how about an actual scientific study proving what you claim?

  • That information is nothing but a bunch of TRASH, and none of it as well supports your assertions that Amish children are largely vaccinated. The first part of the post was as well simply copied and pasted from somewhere else. Your post provides the evidence, for nothing, and it certainly as well does nothing to so called debunk the article i gave you. There are no limits to the concocted and falsely perceived delusions of the provax trolling shill side of this.

  • Bull$hit.. the information is stating exactly what I am stating. Refute it all then, and get started? You can’t do it, or you would have already done it. Perhaps you can find some counter studies at the CDC? Good luck with that

  • You claim to that the Amish largely do vaccinate; and then you present with no evidence of that, but another load of trash, and again with nothing for evidence. What percentage of total existing number of Amish, actually vaccinate their children, and as well vaccinate themselves as adults? Do you suppose any of them are just super keen about the new adult vaccine schedule? I bet they are all marching straight into the doctors offices and getting those vaccines, right? You are beyond delusional.

  • “LOL” In your delusional mind, you wish that were true. That as never been true, and it never will be true. I operate entirely solo, and all there is is me, I can assure you.

  • Again, “LOL” …you are simply beyond pathetic. And are you as well being hypocritical, much?

  • Not only in my mind, but in fact. And what have you ever provided the evidence for? The answer is, nothing at all.

  • Damo

    You know that is not true. All anyone has to do is read your comments in this very conversation and he will see that you are a shill.

  • Research information showing the direct scientific study evidence in regard to the physiologically based harm of vaccines; is now called, spam? Really? And what have you ever presented with? You as well could not even begin to address those 9 questions in regard to the existing vaccine safety science. So what are your posts worth here, as for anyone actually looking for the vaccine truth? They are clearly worth, nothing.

    And actually, if you call it all nonsense, then you are either lying, or you have zero ability to comprehend scientific studies, and as well corresponding analysis. Which is it?

  • Why can’t you address the study in front of you?

  • Damo

    Try reading the entire post and all the links I provided. They refute your claim that the Amish don’t vaccinate and your blog that you linked to (once again you link to a blog and not evidence) is largely fictional.

    I don’t even know why I bother arguing with you, you aren’t interested in intelligent discourse, you are only interested in shilling. And anyone with half a brain that reads these comments and follow your links will see that you are pushing half truths, rumors, intentional misinterpretation of science, and sometimes downright lies in order to further your own interests. It really is sick and you are depraved.

    I only hope that when you are in hell and the devil comes to you, he punishes you with every vaccine preventable disease there is, simultaneously.

  • Do you ever hear yourself speak, or re-read your posts? How loonie is that? And such a hypocrite, you are.

  • But it is , about you. Its about you inability to reply in an intelligent and educated manner. Don’t be shifting the reality of that.

  • I did exactly that, or I would not have replied with what I did here. Face it you have nothing to back your claims.

  • Damo

    That’s rich! You are the one that should reread your posts.

    By the way, I think it is hilarious that you continue to throw the insult shill around, despite the fact that you are now a proven shill. You have no shame.

  • Jesus baby

    lol for one thing I proved you don’t know what a randomized clinical trial is.

  • How would I even possibly make any money from what I do here? Such a claim is unfounded and just purely, asinine.

  • That is just another load of lying BS. If you actually think that, you have to be dumber than a field rock.

  • Jesus baby

    At least I know what randomized clinical trials are. You say you want them but can’t even define one. You’re a pretender.

  • Jesus baby

    When you post one study that proves aluminum in vaccines causes harm in humans I’ll be happy to. But all you have is BS excuses.

  • Jesus baby

    I’m objective and rational. You’re loonie.

  • “That’s rich” …”You are a proven shill” Really? And how did you prove that; tell us, and exactly how? Go ahead and outline that one, so called Damo? Your posts are getting sicker, and more beyond pathetic, as you go.

  • Jesus baby

    So it’s not about you, it’s about me. Got it!

  • Jesus baby

    Well prove it. Define a randomized clinical trial in your own words.

  • See if you can actually grow up and post an adult level reply post. You seem to have seriously a grade school level of brat mentality.

  • I didn’t need to. My understanding of the term was never actually in question; and just because you made the false claim that it was. All you did here was use that false claim to deflect away from the real issues that you needed to answer to. I know you, better than you know you.

  • Jesus baby

    Loonie Hubbs!

  • Jesus baby

    Well tell us in your own words what a randomized clinical trial is.

  • Again. I don’t need to and because my understanding of the term was never in question. What was actually in question, and as was previously put to you; was in requiring your explanation regarding why such vaccine safety studies, can not be conducted as randomized. You refused to answer, and you then again turned it all around to be an issue of me personally, and as to my falsely alleged misunderstanding of the term of the term, randomized. How was that ever in question? Now answer the question that was actually delivered to you. Why can those said, and obviously needed vaccine safety studies, be randomized as to their study design and resulting analysis? No more false excuses; just answer the question directly. You made the claim that it would not be possible, and which of course is and was nothing but a false excuse to not do the studies..

  • In fact it has become that, due to your own twisted and lying denial. However you are as well still required to respond to the questions you were given, and to reply to information directly, and honestly. Is that a continued problem for you?

  • Jesus baby

    See? You don’t have a clue what a randomized clinical trial is. You’re trying to get me to tell you.

  • Jesus baby

    You mean like…do you admit William Thompson’s assertion that the CDC destroyed data showing the MMR caused autism was wrong? You ran away from that one didn’t you?

  • Look 4 posts above this one, and find the study. There are about 15 more studies I can provide as well, and in addition to what was provided for you in the previous posts I just made here. At this point, how lying and in denial do you want to continue to make yourself look?

  • Jesus baby

    Ok what’s the name of the study? I just see another Hubbs pile of spam.

  • Truth Seek

    Caveat – if used at all …

    The FACT remains that falsified “science” is alive, well and flourishing like a virus or bacteria! (Perhaps a vaccine is called for!?) Usually associated with that phrase you so love to hate (almost as much as anti-vax!)
    – BIG PHARMA (there … I said it) the worst offenders against science!

    http://news.stanford.edu/2015/11/16/fraud-science-papers-111615/
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2685008/
    https://explorable.com/scientific-falsification
    http://retractionwatch.com/2015/11/07/its-official-anil-potti-faked-data-say-feds/

    The stats show that trials that show a drug (novel chemical substance) has negative consequences were almost always left out of the official approval process.

    https://www.ted.com/talks/ben_goldacre_what_doctors_don_t_know_about_the_drugs_they_prescribe/transcript?language=en#t-423180

    If this is so, how can anyone safely state that the drug they are taking is (1) doing what it’s supposed to, (2) is safe. You might as well spin the barrel and pull the trigger to see if you commit suicide or not!

    QED

  • Damo

    I have proven time and again, you don’t post information, you post links to your own blog , other blogs, and advertising for Mercola. What more proof do you need?

  • Damo

    Yet it is a claim you make about others constantly, but no one else has posted Mercola’s advertising.

  • Damo

    Then how about discrediting every link and statement, instead of a blanket statement about how my information was trash. You can’t do it because you know that you lie and the earlier blog post was garbage. I know more about the Amish then you ever will and they do not fear modern medicine. Stop posting the made up story, stop posting advertising to you and your partner’s blogs, and stop posting your made up pseudoscience. Until you stop all three, I will continue to call you on your lies.
    Also, since we have witnessed you shilling, don’t ever use the shill accusation again.
    You are a seriously disturbed person if you think encouraging children to get sick is worth your paycheck.

  • Damo

    You really are insane. It is not worth it to talk to you anymore.

  • sabelmouse

    on the upside, this only affects white people.

  • Damo

    Please show me where I copied and pasted the first part of my post? Because that is a downright lie. And you know it. Will you ever stop lying? Lies about vaccines, GMOS, your integrity, your blog, my integrity, and on and on.

    Lowell, you lie more than a rug. But at least the rug doesn’t get paid for it like you do.

  • I know you lied about, and I do not have to prove it. How would I know where you copied it from; or perhaps you just made it up yourself.

    As for the number of lies you have going on, how many more false excuses do you have for why the proper and needed vaccine safety studies have never been done? Then you do nothing but scoff at, and ignore the independent studies that have been done, which show us what is really going on with vaccines and vaccine injury; and as to how those now endless numbers of vaccine injuries are happening.

  • Awesome, then don”t. So why can you not respond to and refute any of that information? But yet it is within your sheeple mind, all of it insane. To a sheeple mind and that can not handle the evidence of facts and reality; I am sure it would be. That is your problem, not mine.

  • I will use the shill accusation as often as I choose to and because it is obvious that you are nothing but a trolling shill. As for me, you have provided the evidence for absolutely nothing, and you just keep lying about it. In fact as to your claim that I am somehow a paid shill is so stupid and flimsy for evidence, that it is beyond pathetic. It would take either someone with semi-severe brain atrophy, or flat out liar, to ever even think of believing such twisted garbage.

    As for your previous post, believe me, I went through it all. There is nothing in there that makes your case. I will leave it for the readers to review it, and decide for themselves, if I am correct. And no one said the Amish don’t ever go to doctors, but did you see the kind of health care provider, that they prefer? There are plenty of unvaccinated Amish left, including children; and there are thousands of children with existing vaccine exemptions remaining, and more than enough to do an unvaccinated verses fully vaccinated health outcomes, study.

    Again, how many more false excuses do you have for why the proper and needed vaccine safety studies, have never been done? As well such as I outlined in the questions 1 through 9. Then you at the same time, and as well do nothing but scoff at and ignore the independent studies that have been done, and obviously that exist; which show us what is really going on with vaccines and vaccine injury; and as to how those now endless numbers of vaccine injuries are happening, and many of them as well, with resulting autism.

    And you really think that previously healthy children, end up that way all by coincidence, and that it just has to be something else? And its all just an unproven conspiracy theory, put forth by nothing but mislead individuals who you call anti-science. I have already long ago shown you what your junk science epidemiological studies are worth; absolutely nothing. You rejected, and ignored the information. That is fine for you, but many will not reject that information, and then realize what really goes on with vaccines, and the said issue of vaccine safety.

  • It has nothing to do with Mercola. What it has to do with is that people like you would never post what you do, if you were not trolling shills. You can deny that all you want. You are either paid, or you have career involved with, and/or an association with the directly vested interests in vaccines. As a fact.

  • More twisted misrepresentation, misinformation, and lies from so called Damo. Would you reply post here at all if you had to use a real identity? The answer is, you would not have the fortitude to post here, even once. Prove me wrong?

  • Really. And you couldn’t see it in the post?

    Autism Spectrum Disorders and Aluminum Vaccine Adjuvants
    Lucija Tomljenovic, Russell L. Blaylock, Christopher A. Shaw

    Abstract
    Impaired brain function, excessive inflammation, and autoimmune manifestations are common in autism. Aluminum (Al), the most commonly used vaccine adjuvant, is a demonstrated neurotoxin and a strong immune stimulator. Hence, adjuvant Al has the necessary properties to induce neuroimmune disorders. Because peripheral immune stimuli in the postnatal period can compromise brain development and cause permanent neurological impairments, the possibility that such outcomes could also occur with administration of Al vaccine adjuvants needs to be considered. In regard to the risk of adjuvant toxicity in children, the following should be noted: (i) children should not be viewed as “small adults” as their unique physiology makes them more vulnerable to toxic insults; (ii) in adult humans Al adjuvants can cause a variety of serious autoimmune and inflammatory conditions including those affecting the brain, yet children are routinely exposed to much higher amounts of Al from vaccines than adults; (iii) compelling evidence has underscored the tight connection between the development of the immune system and that of the brain. Thus, it appears plausible that disruptions of critical events in immune development may also play a role in the establishment of neurobehavioral disorders; (iv) the same immune system components that play key roles in brain development appear to be targeted for impairment by Al adjuvants. In summary, research data suggests that vaccines containing Al may be a contributing etiological factor in the increasing incidence of autism.

    http://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007%2F978-1-4614-4788-7_89

  • Really? And where have I ever run away from anything, ever; you half witted delusional slug, with an intentionally inflammatory, and borderline to blasphemous character name?

    You did not directly answer my question, and you just deflected and diverted away from it, answering a question with a question.

    You can twist it up all you want to here, but in the end outcome it was those that did the said study and at of the time of study that trashed the data, and ignored the data. The CDC is just as culpable and even if hard copies were saved, and as Thompson said he kept a copy of the data that was disregarded. Who had kept what, and where; is largely irrelevant. As to the study, the data was obviously disregarded, and that makes for a large strike against the existing vaccine safety studies that the CDC has depended on claiming to show no connection between vaccines and autism.

  • See what; again your evasion and deflection from the real issue, and the real questions I put to you?

    Randomized controlled trial
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randomized_controlled_trial

    Randomized clinical trial
    https://www.cancer.gov/publications/dictionaries/cancer-terms?cdrid=45858

    Study Design 101
    Randomized Controlled Trial
    https://himmelfarb.gwu.edu/tutorials/studydesign101/rcts.html

    What is a randomized controlled trial in medical research?
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/280574.php

    An AGAIN, how many more false excuses do you have for why the proper and needed vaccine safety studies, have never been done? As well such as I outlined in the questions 1 through 9. Then you at the same time, and as well do nothing but scoff at and ignore the independent studies that have been done, and obviously that exist; which show us what is really going on with vaccines and vaccine injury; and as to how those now endless numbers of vaccine injuries are happening, and many of them as well, with resulting autism.

  • Jesus baby

    I know you can’t define a randomized study, but are you seriously unable to define a STUDY? That’s a theoretical opinion piece. Post a study proving aluminum in vaccines causes human harm.

  • I don’t need to. I just gave you the medical definition; go read your posts, instead of only creating more posts with the same nonsense in them.

    Just because you are stupid enough to repeatedly defect from the question, why can not the needed and necessary vaccine safety studies be done from a randomized study perspective; don’t falsely attempt to make me look stupid; and just because you have repeatedly refuse to answer the question. You said that it would not be possible, remember? So why not?

    This isn’t good enough for you?

    What is a randomized controlled trial in medical research?
    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/280574.php

  • Jesus baby

    And you’re still running. Was Thompson’s assertion that the CDC destroyed the data wrong? It’s a simple yes or no answer.

  • I told you-you couldn’t. Do you have anything else at such a grown up and intelligent level to reply post here, or was that the best you could do?

  • Jesus baby

    You need to explain what a randomized trial is in your own words.

  • Jesus baby

    I can’t explain why your vaxxed/unvaxxed study proposal isn’t randomized until I’m confident you understand randomization. Copy/pasting other people’s definition isn’t the same as understanding the concept.

  • Jesus baby

    Poopie head!

  • It is not an opinion piece. It is obviously based on the physiological understanding of the processes of the human body and the brain. Lets have you as well refute that study, with any available counter study that you can come up with? Oh that’s right, those studies have never been done, and/or any such related vaccine safety studies, ever. Remember what I outlined in the numbers 1 though 9? Now as well can you see any reason to do those studies, and based on this information? No, no reason exists to do those studies ever, right? The CDC would know if it was needed. The CDC will never advocate for such studies being done, and the last thing they ever want is any such study which really gets to understanding the actual physiological effect of vaccines, and the ingredients in vaccines. Toxic and known contaminated vaccines; and no one thinks it worth studying? Really?

  • Flagged.

  • Jesus baby

    That’s not a study and you’ll need to show you, in your own words, can explain what a randomized study means. A 3 year old can copy/paste definitions.

  • Jesus baby

    Big man!

  • Damo

    What does my identity have to do with anything? And obviously I won’t reveal my identity because it would lead to harassment off these discussion boards. That is how you work, I have bested you when it comes to facts so now you want me to say who I am so you can harass me.
    Your argument is getting shallower and shallower.

  • Damo

    Not true at all. My career has nothing to do with vaccines. I happen to be educated and can point out all the lies you make. I have a vested interest in getting the truth out there through all your actual shill lies. It is called having a conscience. I would feel terrible if one person took your advice and one child, just one, got sick and I didn’t say something.
    It is you who has something to gain by posting lies, not me.

  • Damo

    You spent a couple of paragraphs to basically say “Lowell hubba doesn’t understand science, so instead of reacting to your argument, I am going to yell shill and ask why you don’t answer some unrelated questions.”

    Just give it up, by now we are the only two left in this conversation and we both know you aren’t qualified to be a part of it.

  • Damo

    You haven’t posted any links to Mercola’s website lately. I guess you’ll be sleeping alone tonight.

  • Damo

    So, once again false accusations from you. So far I have proven that you are a shill, do not understand he subject matter, and are a liar.
    The only thing you have proven is that you may need some mental health help.

  • Damo

    Also, it has everything to do with Mercola since you were found to be shilling for him.

  • Truth Seek

    Minor point, Lowell. Why don’t you check out @Vaccine Papers profile as I did. You’ll see that they’re not evil as you suggest, just thorough. (Look before you leap, man) You might just learn something from many of their posts, as I have.

  • I never said they were. In fact you can see that I am using their work. There was some confusion as to what they were referring to, and if it were the real vaccine papers site. Look, before “you” leap. I can see that they are the real site, now.

  • Bull$hit. You know no such thing is true, and that no such thing has ever been true. Such a rotten …liar. And this is the best you can do? You sound to be deceptively …insane. How about if you just stopped deflecting away from your own obvious trolling shill activities, and which are actually real?

  • You haven’t proven $hit, period; you maniacal trolling shill. Listen, you very twisted and obviously sick dog; you are the one that intentionally fails to understand the subject matter going on here. Unfortunately, there is no help for the twisted sickness within people like you, and no matter what form it is in.

  • What, more additional sexual harassment, and you still haven’t been banned? Looks like vactruth lets you trolling shills get away with anything that you want to. Shame on lack of proper moderation, by vactruth.

  • So where are your vaccine safety studies that I asked for and outlined in the 1 through 9, questions?

    Unrelated questions; really? Like what? You don’t have anything.

    So you think that vaccine safety issue, 1 though 9, is somehow some sort of an irrelevant point? Really? So explain directly why you have determined that to be the case? Get started. Do you need 1 through 9 posted, again? Lets see who is actually qualified, here? I thought you pro-vax trolling shills have proclaimed to be the purveyors of the science? You sure have done here a very poor showing of that, here. You can actually answer honestly and directly, to nothing.

  • Your conscience is actually dead. You have a vested interest in denial, and lying for the people that pay you, period. The ONLY thing you would ever feel terrible about is your loss of income, and/or a career, and the demise of the vaccinator’s, and the vaccine industry.

    I have nothing to gain here, and everyone with any honesty can see that is all to obvious. The only one posting obvious twisted lies, is you. So how does it make you feel to support the resulting vaccine harm and injury of thousands of infants, and children? How does it make you feel to support the as well thousands of Gardasil vaccine injuries that have resulted in so many un-recovered from outcomes, and disability. The correct and the right information, and as well the right answers are there. In your denial, you just simply refuse, any and all of it.

    Its NOT Just Autism

    Many people have heard so often the denials through mainstream media and ‘expert’ sources that vaccines don’t cause autism, so they assume anyone who refuses vaccines is ONLY worried about autism.

    Most of those who refuse vaccines are concerned first and foremost about health and what life practices will best support and promote health.

    The children in the USA receive the highest number of vaccines in the world. No other country gives their children the number and variety of vaccines that the CDC recommends for the children born in the USA. Yet children living in the USA today are among the most unhealthy generation ever in this country.

    Children suffer from earache, ear infections, asthma, diabetes, cancer, allergies, other auto-immune disorders, obesity, seizures, brain encephalitis, tics, learning disabilities, developmental delays, brain damage (including autism) and even death (SIDS) at unprecedented rates. The US infant mortality rate is now 23rd in the world.

    What could possibly be causing our children to be so sick? There are a variety of possibly explanations, but it would be foolish to categorically assume that the rate of vaccination of our children with multiple vaccines given at once and repeated multiple times before the age of two, is a totally safe procedure.

    It’s not just autism those who refuse vaccines are worried about. It is the general state of health of our children and our nation. The autism rate is now 1:28 but the obesity rate is nearly 1:2. You can search to find out the statistics for many other childhood illnesses. We all know families devastated by childhood cancers.

    We want healthy children. Has anyone ever studied the combined impact of all the recommended vaccines on the health of our most vulnerable members of society?

    http://journeyboost.com/2014/09/20/its-not-just-autism/

    Truth-(Within the light)
    http://journeyboost.com/meet-becky/

    MILLIONS OF CHILDREN ARE CHRONICALLY ILL AND DISABLED (and the pro-vaccine side ignores and denies this truth, and at best if they actually do see this reality as to the children; it is assumed as being just another unproven, coincidence).
    https://vaccinesbytheoutliers.wordpress.com/2015/09/08/millions-of-children-are-chronically-ill-and-disabled/

    Earth
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0cxzAMFDVY&index=29&list=RDP_3iy5yxAAY

  • Your identity as i said, has everything to do with it. Harassment off these discussion boards? Really? And how would that ever happen? Tell me; how is it it that I work? And what evidence do you have, for that? I think that you are just an actually, just another, gutless coward. You haven’t actually bested, anything at all. You have no facts, and that is clearly obvious. You as well have zero ability to counter the real facts, and the existing study science. Face it. There could be nothing more shallow than that. Are you initials, S.V.? That wouldn’t at all surprise me. You have nothing, and obviously you never will.

  • What kind of a man, calls himself …Jesus baby? That, instead of using a real identity, and like I do. Coward.

  • So how beyond stupid can you actually yet get? So, do you have any more forms of twisted deflection, and false excuses for not addressing the information, and the questions that I have put forth? So, where did you ever have anything, at all? You post like a 3 year old.

  • You already seen me post the definition. Again, do you have any more forms of twisted deflection, and false excuses for your failure to address those 9 questions in regard to the existing vaccine safety studies? You have managed to actually address nothing at all, so far. You know that you have no answers, and that is why you continue with the obvious falsely deflecting bull$hit, that you do. Again, what kind of a hideous posting coward, calls himself, Jesus baby? If I were actually a shill, I would use a fake name, or a whacked in the head character name, like you do.

  • Just more FALSE excuses as to why you can not explain, or tell me why those necessary and should be required vaccine safety studies I listed, can not be randomized as to their study design. Can they be randomized, or not? Yes or no; and if you say they can not be; then why not? Lets see you come up with only more diversion, and as well more obvious false excuses?

  • I just explained that to you. You are asking an actually irrelevant question, and as I obviously explained, and in no uncertain terms. Perhaps you need to take some reading comprehension, classes? When was the last time you answered any question at all, that was obviously and directly, relevant? Such a blatant level of …hypocrisy.

  • I just did show you such a study, and I have many more. Show me a study showing the safety of aluminum adjuvavts, and which actually took a look at the physiologically based effect on the human body, and the human brain? You can’t do it; prove me wrong? No such studies have ever been done, and showing any such safety profile.

  • You as well say that GMO seeds and food products, are proven as safe? You really are a genuine and real breed of those existing within and beyond the realm of not only being mislead, but as well literally being falsely trusting, stupid.

  • Jesus baby

    What kind of loonie posts a profile pic like that?!

  • Jesus baby

    Any time you’re ready.

  • Jesus baby

    If you want an explanation you just need to define a randomized study in your own words. Apparently you don’t want to pursue the issue though.

  • Jesus baby

    Again, as you certainly know, until you can define a randomized study in your own words there’s no point in continuing. Either you don’t know how to do that or you don’t want to continue.

  • Jesus baby

    So you refuse to answer?

  • Jesus baby

    “I just did show you such a study…”
    What “study” did you just show me?

  • Jeff

    I’m reading all of Lowell Hubbs comments and not one comment of his has leaned me towards thinking he is a paid shill. However, I see a lot of deflecting from Damo and Jesus baby.

  • Jeff

    Jesus Baby is clearly using a common tactic. Avoiding the question by asking a straw man question, in order to discredit said person. I’m not going to go as far as calling Baby Jesus an paid shill but you are clearly using their tactics.

  • Jesus baby

    Look. Hubbs wants a randomized clinical trial of vaxxed vs unvaxxed children. He believes there are enough children who are already unvaxxed to use them as one arm of the study.
    Now I can’t make him understand why that isn’t a randomized trial until I’m sure he knows what “randomized” even means in that context. How is that a “straw man question”?

  • Jeff

    Claiming the lawsuits were frivolous is an opinion. The court system decides this, with evidence presented. In 1986, when the vaccine industry gained immunity, there were no antivax sites, due to the non existence of the World Wide Web.

  • Jeff

    Another tactic of a trolling shill. Discredit people by bringing up off topic conspiracy theory topics.

  • Jesus baby

    “Claiming the lawsuits were frivolous is an opinion.”
    Borne out by the < 1 in a million compensations/vaccine dose despite a vaccine court favorable to the plaintiffs.

  • Jesus baby
  • Damo

    I have facts, you have insults. Any reasonable person will see through your nonsense.

  • Damo

    Lie all you want, the evidence is in your posts.

  • Damo

    Lowell, this is a new low for you. Bad enough you tradesex for posts,but this is ridiculous.

  • Damo

    Once again, let’s see the science. Oh, Lowell doesn’t deal in science, just harassment and paid advertisements for his lovers.

  • Damo

    Lowell, I see how you and others act when I post science that disagrees with your views. Frankly, it isn’t nice, it is harassing, it is insulting, and in the case of Ron Roy, it is threatening. Now you have just left me several anger filled posts saying some of the most hateful things. And why? Because i proved you don’t know jack about the Amish.you can’t take being wrong very well, and you accuse me of profiting of my posts, when it is very clearly you do so.
    Now, if you were in my shoes, would you really feel safe letting people know who you are? And if keeping weird, violent people like yourself away from my family makes me a coward, so be it, kama coward, but at least I am not lying about vaccines and profiting off sick children like you are.

  • Damo

    I feel very good about myself because I am keeping crazies like you from spreading your lies.

    How do you feel profiting from encouraging parents to make the wrong decision? You could perform the wizard of Oz all by yourself, because you are heartless, brainless, and gutless.

    Lowell, people like you make me sick, you post bs not science. And, unfortunately, someone is going to believe you and children are going to get sick. Seriously, don’t you ever think, “what if that wasy grandkids?” Maybe you do, you strike me as he type to not let family get in the way of a buck

  • I have been at this independent research since 2008. And I was at the research even before that. Never once have I made a single dime of profit from any of it. I do it because it is so needed, and because it is right. Your level of demented lunacy involving your false accusations, amounts to being just massive, and beyond sick.

    The level of vaccine harm being done to human health today, and with number of resulting vaccine injuries, create a situation where the number of vaccines on the current CDC vaccine schedule, are clearly doing far more harm than good. No, you have in some form a direct connection to vested interests in vaccines, in one form or another; and the actual profiting trolling shill, continues to be you.

    How do you explain this?

    I have had no vaccines in well over 4 decades, and there are millions of adults existing who as well have had no vaccines since childhood, (other than a few and some have been vaccinated very minimally). Why aren’t those so called horrible so called vaccine preventable diseases, coming back? The reason is that vaccines never eradicated anything, ever. Vaccines are the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on humanity. Pertussis and measles vaccines are only preventing eradication. The only thing that can ever create eradication, and that have a chance to create eradication, is natural immunity. If you don’t understand that, then you are oblivious to, or ignoring the real history existing in regard to vaccines.

    September 13, 2016, 03:25 pm
    If only half of America is properly vaccinated, where are the epidemics?
    http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/healthcare/295562-if-only-half-of-america-is-properly-vaccinated-where-are-the

    The massive myth behind the vaccine industry…
    https://www.facebook.com/ANHUSA/videos/10155245606839535/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

    Vaccines Provide Herd Immunity? The Herd Immunity Myth
    http://www.anh-usa.org/vaccines-provide-herd-immunity/

    The False Theory of Vaccine Derived – Herd Immunity
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-theory-of-vaccine-derived—herd-immunity.html

    And again, when are you going to get started in addressing these questions, as to the issue of vaccine safety?

    9 Questions For The Pro-Vaxers
    http://www.vacfacts.info/9-questions-for-the-pro-vaxers.html

  • When di you ever post any science, you lying fraud??? I am actually the person that has repeatedly posted the applicable studies, and as well the proper questions as to the yet needed vaccine safety studies.

    If you think you can post science, then why have you yet not posted a single study in response to these questions as to the existing vaccine safety studies? Get started. You are nothing but a lying fraud, and that is all to obvious.

    9 Questions For The Pro-Vaxers
    http://www.vacfacts.info/9-questions-for-the-pro-vaxers.html

  • Again, I have posted the independent study science, many times.

    You falsely accuse of harassment, and then while you create yourself, more false harassment. Isn’t that the equivalent of obvious, hypocrisy?

    Lets shift the responsibility here for just a bit, as to the needed, but yet having never been done, vaccine safety studies. Lets see you answer even one of these question? Or will you again ignore it, and just continue to talk your false information, trash?

    Here we go, more false excuses and immediate deflection, from so called, Damo

    9 Questions For The Pro-Vaxers
    http://www.vacfacts.info/9-questions-for-the-pro-vaxers.html

  • “LOL” Is there no end to your deceptive, and lying BS? You are serious sick, dog. Again, I have never made a single red cent from any research, or posting that I do. How do you even live with the made up, lying crap that you post? Don’t you feel just utterly beyond stupid? You should.

  • If you have the facts, then why do you continue to repeatedly ignore this? Get started.

    9 Questions For The Pro-Vaxers
    http://www.vacfacts.info/9-questions-for-the-pro-vaxers.html

  • Damo

    You don’t do research, you put lies in your posts and direct people to your blog full of misinformation. So technically, you are correct, you never made a red cent from your research because it is nonexistent.

  • Damo

    You haven’t posted any independent studies. You post links to blogs and Mercola advertising. Stop it with your lies. The research about vaccines is iron clad and been shown to you various times. If you make claims it is up to you to provide the proof to back those claims up.

  • Damo

    You got me, I am the fraud. Meanwhile you post nonsense and links to sunscreen adverts. Your website is full of pseudoscience and the fact that vaccines have saved countless lives you deny.

    How many kids will have to die until you are happy?

  • Damo

    Once again blog posts. When you have actual evidence that counters thousands of studies that say vaccines are safe, then you can talk to me.

  • With it being alleged that there are thousands of studies that say vaccines are safe; then where are they? Who did the studies? If that were actually true; (and it is not), would you not think as well that you could answer at least one single question as to the question I put forth, in 1 though 9? You can’t answer any of those questions; and yet false continue to maintain that you are the purveyor of the study science. How mindless and beyond pathetic, can this continue to be?

    Here they are again.

    9 Questions For The Pro-vaxxers

    1. Where are the safety studies regarding the vaccine safety of the current CDC vaccine schedule?

    2 Where are the vaccine safety studies regarding the known practice of injecting a small child with from 5 and up to nine or more vaccines, in a single day and office visit?

    3. Where are the vaccine safety studies in regard to the safety of injecting vaccine aluminum adjuvants?

    4. Where are the vaccine safety studies regarding the practice of injecting both vaccines with attenuated live viruses in them, together with as well killed vaccines with aluminum adjuvants in them.

    5. Where are the studies showing the vaccine safety of vaccines which are contaminated with human diploid cell short and long chain DNA contaminants, due to the use of human diploid tissue in the growing of the vaccine antigens in childhood vaccines? Where are the vaccine safety studies in regard to any other vaccine that has been known to be contaminated with the substances that the vaccine antigen was grown on, and from?

    6. Where are the vaccinated verses entirely un-vaccinated health outcome studies? Thousands of children still exist in the US, with active vaccine exemptions. The Amish community as well have had thousands of un-vaccinated children within their communities. Just because a small group of Amish were falsely fear mongered into vaccinating and ended up at a clinic in the attempt to diagnose and treat resulting childhood autism; does not mean that the entire Amish community vaccinates, and has been falsely eluded to. Obviously there is no need to not vaccinate, simply to do this study.

    7. In regard to the MMR vaccine. How does the CDC as well continue to ignore this long list of studies showing the harmful effects of, the vaccine injury effects of; and as well in these studies there as well appears be an obvious MMR connection to autism? The controversy does not only revolve around a single 1998 study by Wakefield, and as well a single study connected to the CDC’s, William Thompson. And the so called official word that they tell you is that any vaccine/autism link has been dis-proven, and debunked; right? Really? Lets look further.

    8. Can you explain how it is possible in regard to the comparisons of systemic adverse reactions, for the FDA in the review and in the approval of vaccines through clinical trials, to allow the substitution of saline placebo, a replacement such as other similar vaccines which the FDA has previously approved as safe? If big pharma and the CDC are going to re-assure their claim to the public that vaccines are safe; then why are not real saline placebos required in the comparison of systemic reactions. Lets as well look at the clinical trials on Gardasil. One placebo was the aluminum adjuvant, and the other appears to be HPV virus like particles, in the vaccines carrier solution. It is all in the over 400 page document that Merck submitted to the FDA on their said Gardasil clinical trials. No wonder the comparison between the vaccine and placebo graphs appear to be so similar. And with this going on, the public is actually supposed to retain their assurances of proven vaccine safety? I think not.

    9. Are you aware of the fact that SV40 a known contaminant in the early 1960’s polio vaccine, is still being found in children today, and which are to young to have ever had that known contaminated vaccine? SV40 is as well known to cause benign tumors, and cancer. Are you as well aware of the fact that vaccines today still contain the unresolved risk of there being contaminants in them that can cause and create adverse health effects? Contaminants from any once living animal, or human cell source, on which the vaccine antigens were grown on and from. This is clearly a remaining unresolved problem, and as witnessed again in regard to the vaccine Gardasil.

    Lets also take a look at the existing studies that allegedly show no connection between vaccines and autism. Actually, general vaccine injury, and immunological harm done, and without the evidence of autism, is an equally as serious an issue.

    As for their known epidemiological studies.

    And, what did they study in those so called and claimed to larger epidemiological, (population based), vaccine safety studies? In fact they only studied one single vaccine, the MMR; and one single vaccine ingredient, Thimerosal. None of the larger epidemiological studies compared vaccinated to entirely unvaccinated. None of the studies looked at the safety profile of the entire CDC vaccine schedule. None of those studies as well looked at the safety profile of giving from 5 to up to 9 vaccines or more to and infant or small child, in a single day and office visit.

    Every one of the larger MMR, and Thimerosal epidemiolgical studies were clearly COOKED, for the results, period. Found were the use of flawed study designs, use of unrealiable data, predetermined outcomes unsupported by the data, and as well major conflicts of interest in the studies funding sources; none of them being independent and nor unbiased.

    VACCINES AND AUTISM – WHAT DO EPIDEMIOLOGICAL STUDIES REALLY TELL US?

    We have 16 studies already that clearly state that vaccines do not cause autism.”
    — Amy Pisani, Executive Director, Every Child By Two

    “16 studies have shown no causal association between vaccines and autism, and these
    studies carry weight in the scientific industry.”
    — Dr. Nancy Snyderman, NBC Today Show Medical Editor

    “The science is largely complete. Ten epidemiological studies have shown MMR vaccine
    doesn’t cause autism; six have shown thimerosal doesn’t cause autism.”
    — Dr. Paul Offit, “Autism’s False Prophets”

    Read more:
    http://www.rescuepost.com/files/vaccines-and-autism-epidemiology-rebuttal.pdf

    14 Studies
    http://www.fourteenstudies.org/

    Vaccines Market worth $57.8 Billion by 2019
    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/vaccines-market-worth-578-billion-by-2019-289805011.html

    Dr. Paul Offit’s Aluminum Deceptions and Academic Misconduct (one very important article, to read)
    http://vaccinepapers.org/dr-paul-offits-aluminum-deceptions-academic-misconduct/

    Aluminum

    Debunking Aluminum Adjuvant, Part 1
    Debunking Aluminum Adjuvant, Part 2
    The Foundation for Al Adjuvant Safety Is False
    RETRACTED PAPER: Brain Damage from Al Adjuvant and Gardasil
    UPDATE: Adjuvant Transport Gets Complicated
    Aluminum Adjuvant Injection Experiment #1: 100mcg/kg
    Aluminum Adjuvant Injection Experiment #2: 300mcg/kg
    Aluminum Adjuvant Injection Experiment #3: 550mcg/kg
    Toxic Aluminum Overdose From Vaccines
    Dr. Paul Offit’s Aluminum Deceptions and Academic Misconduct
    Vaccine Aluminum Travels Into The Brain
    Natural, Science-Based Treatment for Aluminum Toxicity

    Immune Activation

    Response to Charges of “Cherry-Picking” (List of Abstracts)
    New Kid On The Block: IL-17a
    Two Vaccines With Opposite Effects On Brain Development
    Part 1: Immune Activation and Autism
    Part 2: Interleukin-6 and Autism
    Part 3: Immune Activation Causes Autism in Monkeys
    Part 4: Postnatal Immune Activation
    Part 5: Vaccines and Immune Activation

    Read more:
    http://vaccinepapers.org/

  • And the truth is that you have provided zero evidence for anything you say, and claim to. When are you going to start doing that? My website is actually full of real, independent, and unbiased studies. Studies that you can not even begin to directly address. When are you going to answer even one of those nine questions; oh yee alleged and false purveyor of the vaccine safety study, science? You have nothing, just face it. The CDC, Pediatrics, and Paul Offit, have never had the needed and appropriate vaccine safety studies. All they have is junk science and obviously, more false claims.

  • I have post many independent studies, and now I am asking you for your vaccine safety studies. Do you have any more stupid, irrelevant, and obviously false excuses as to why you can not answer even one of those questions, and as to the existing vaccine safety studies?

    You are making the claim that all of the needed and necessary vaccine safety studies have been done. You are as well now saying that those studies are iron clad? I am showing you directly that is not at all the case at all. You are endlessly delusional, and you refuse to face it.

  • Damo

    You are the delusional one if you think anyone believes you. You are saying that scientists the world over are part of a huge conspiracy to kill children. You also are claiming that anyone that disagrees with you is a shill. You also made false statements about the Amish. And to top it off you were caught advertising for Mercola. If anyone is delusional it is you, if you still believe anyone is buying your shit.

  • Damo

    I gave you plenty of evidence about the Amish,and your retort was that my sources were trash. You couldn’t even identify why. And they were actual sources, not blog posts like you provide.
    Face it, you are a useless old man who gets off when children get sick.
    Oh and a proven Mercola shill.

  • And again you can provide evidence for none of that, and you simply again continue on your delusional, and repeatedly falsely accusing path. The research is non existent? Really? You sure are changing your tune; I thought you said I was paid? Like Mercola would ever need to pay someone like me to drum up selling his products business for him, being the most read natural health website, in the world. I think he is doing just fine, without me.

  • You don’t have $hit about the Amish. The majority of them still do not vaccinate, and you have never produced evidence that they do; and no matter how many reference links you posted. All of it was irrelevant, to the actual question.

    In regard to your personally attacking and twisted, puke filled rants; at least I have the courage to post with a real identity. People like you are nothing but trolling shill, cowards. I fear, nothing. And by the way; if that is true; when is Mercola’s paycheck coming? I haven’t received a red cent, yet? How do you get paid for so called Mercola shilling, when you never signed up for, or even asked for the job? Hope that check, comes soon?

  • Damo

    Like I said, when you present actual science, we will talk. But then go shill on natural news or something.

  • Damo

    Real funny how you can’t refute actual facts. Just more insults and accusations. I produced numerous links about the Amish.
    The only thingyou have produced is an ad for Mercola. By the way, tell Mercola we can get that same active ingredient at the dollar store for about 3 bucks a tube. You can’t eve shill correctly

  • Oh, not this stupid crap again. I did not say that at all. How could you be employed withing the standard big pharma educated and mislead medical model; and not yet understand, the existing politics?

    I as well did not say that anyone that disagrees, is a shill. The simply mislead and the non shills, don’t last long here, posting on sites like this. On the other hand, trolling shills never give it up, and no matter how sick, delusional. and lying they are repeatedly shown to be. Apparently it all pays the same, regardless of the outcome for you. Causing only disruption and distraction which prevent any further honest debate on vaccines; is a crowning essential to being a paid shill.

    So when are you going to be finding the fortitude to use a real identity? I mean, if you really believed in your posting agenda here; wouldn’t you think you would, and could do that?

  • Damo

    Really, then why do you do it?

  • Again, not one of your links as to the Amish, ever showed that they largely do vaccinate. You have not provided any evidence for that at all, and no matter how large a smoke screen you put up.

    So you would be dumb enough to use only zinc oxide? How would you know what SPF you actually have achieved? And as to any other beneficial effects of using a product with combined skin care lotions; all you want to use is zinc oxide; because you are to CHEAP to buy a quality product. Is that right? Which dollar store actually sells that single zinc oxide product? Name it?

  • Do what? I am not doing anything. How sick and twisted do you actually look right now? And how is this even possibly benefiting your pro-vaccine agenda? So if you make yourself look sick enough, twisted enough; and in denial enough; it actually helps make the case for promoting vaccines? Really? And how does, that work?

  • Damo

    I have no pro vaccine agenda. I am pro facts and truth. Clearly you are not in favor of either of those things.

  • Damo

    Any dollar store that sells sunscreen. Debunk one, just one of my links. Lowell, my fun is over. You have proven to be either the biggest liar or the dumbest oaf. Not sure which one, but neither is good.

  • Damo

    Once again, no proof that I am a shill. Just trying to demean the other side with such claims. The fact that you have been caught shilling makes it even worse. Go do something productive with your life.

  • There is obviously far more evidence for that in regard to you, than there ever will be, for me. Caught shilling? Simply referencing to the Mercola site and because the subject of the merits of sunscreens, came up? You call that evidence of paid shilling? How dumb are you? Putting forth the truth with reference material, makes a person, a paid shill. Really? How beyond twisted is your continued to be made up, and inept thought process? Unlike you, at least I don’t have to make up crap, as I go.

  • And as well as to those dollar store sunscreens; how many of them as well contain the harmful ingredients that were listed in the Mercola information? You simply and repeated;y fail to understand the concept of doing more harm than good.

    Let me know when you can actually provide some real evidence for your personal accusations.

    And your links to what, and on what? You have zero references, and nothing as to that posted here at all. Nice lying smoke screen.

  • You admitted directly in your posts, that you have a pro-vaccine agenda. You stated that, in opposition to what I put forth. If you have all the facts and the truth, then why could you not respond to even one of these questions? If I was not in favor of the facts and truth; would I have even bothered to put these questions, and this information forward? The answer, is obviously not.

    Come on Damo; show me something other than that you have absolutely nothing, in regard to the needed and necessary vaccine safety study science?

    9 Questions For The Pro-Vaxers

    1. Where are the safety studies regarding the vaccine safety of the current CDC vaccine schedule?

    2 Where are the vaccine safety studies regarding the known practice of injecting a small child with from 5 and up to nine or more vaccines, in a single day and office visit?

    3. Where are the vaccine safety studies in regard to the safety of injecting vaccine aluminum adjuvants?

    4. Where are the vaccine safety studies regarding the practice of injecting both vaccines with attenuated live viruses in them, together with as well killed vaccines with aluminum adjuvants in them.

    5. Where are the studies showing the vaccine safety of vaccines which are contaminated with human diploid cell short and long chain DNA contaminants, due to the use of human diploid tissue in the growing of the vaccine antigens in childhood vaccines? Where are the vaccine safety studies in regard to any other vaccine that has been known to be contaminated with the substances that the vaccine antigen was grown on, and from?

    6. Where are the vaccinated verses entirely un-vaccinated health outcome studies? Thousands of children still exist in the US, with active vaccine exemptions. The Amish community as well have had thousands of un-vaccinated children within their communities. Just because a small group of Amish were falsely fear mongered into vaccinating and ended up at a clinic in the attempt to diagnose and treat resulting childhood autism; does not mean that the entire Amish community vaccinates, and has been falsely eluded to. Obviously there is no need to not vaccinate, simply to do this study.

    7. In regard to the MMR vaccine. How does the CDC as well continue to ignore this long list of studies showing the harmful effects of, the vaccine injury effects of; and as well in these studies there as well appears be an obvious MMR connection to autism? The controversy does not only revolve around a single 1998 study by Wakefield, and as well a single study connected to the CDC’s, William Thompson. And the so called official word that they tell you is that any vaccine/autism link has been dis-proven, and debunked; right? Really? Lets look further.

    Read more:
    http://www.vacfacts.info/9-questions-for-the-pro-vaxers.html

  • Damo

    You suggested that his zinc oxide was somehow safer than the dollar store zinc oxide and reprinted, along with links for ordering, his product descriptions. You are the only one in this conversation that has actually shilled.

  • I never said that, at all. The issue was never the zinc oxide, it is the other variability of the additional and potentially harmful ingredients. In the Mercola articles it simply outlined directly which are the toxic and harmful ingredients, and which are not. The articles simply as well lead to the Mercola sun screen products, and which as outlined, do not have those harmful ingredients in them. Without zinc oxide, you do not have any sun screen. So, have you found any other sun screen substance that would be a better choice? If not, then what are you continuing to argue about?

  • Here is something good done. I am exposing this. Why should there not be allowed the other side of the story, as to vaccines? So, do you think this information is any cause for any concern regarding vaccines? Obviously you would say no, and that the general public should just remain to be trusting, and unquestioning, sheeple.

    We Don’t Vaccinate – Myth and Reality of the Vaccination Campaigns
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjiFrTnWiK4

    List of References!
    Doctors who explain clearly why vaccines aren’t safe or effective.

    1. Dr. Jonas Salk – http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1814511606

    2. Dr. Nancy Banks – http://bit.ly/1Ip0aIm

    3. Dr. Russell Blaylock – http://bit.ly/1BXxQZL

    4. Dr. Shiv Chopra – http://bit.ly/1gdgh1s

    5. Dr. Sherri Tenpenny – http://bit.ly/1MPVbjx

    6. Dr. Suzanne Humphries – http://bit.ly/17sKDbf

    7. Dr. Larry Palevsky – http://bit.ly/1LLEjf6

    8. Dr. Toni Bark – http://bit.ly/1CYM9RB

    9. Dr. Andrew Wakefield – http://bit.ly/1MuyNzo

    10. Dr. Meryl Nass – http://bit.ly/1DGzJsc

    11. Dr. Raymond Obomsawin – http://bit.ly/1G9ZXYl

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  • Damo

    So, no proof that I am a shill.

  • Damo

    Bullshit, you posted Mercola advertising and now you are claiming that it was research. Who do you think you are fooling, shill?

  • Damo

    I obviously didn’t click on all of those links, but the ones I did click on where either YouTube videos, opinion pieces, or blogs. Please refine this list to only feature actual science so I don’t have to go looking for the evidence needle in the proverbial haystack.

  • So again you ignore the professional opinion of medical professionals. Opinion, based on obviously far more than just opinion. So, you only accept the opinions of doctors that are pro-vaccine, and you reject the opinions of doctors that refuse to be sheeple, and that can actually allow themselves to think, and outside the big pharma mis-educated, box.

  • First of all, I did not bring up the topic of sun exposure, and sunscreens; that was another reply poster. There were few other places to get that specific, and direct information on the subject matter. The only one YOU are fooling, is yourself. Providing that information obviously had nothing to do with shilling for Mercola, and you know it. You are nothing but a very twisted, and sick troll, so called …Damo. Only an complete idiot, would support what you are claiming.

  • What you post, is PROOF enough. Face it.

  • Damo

    Lowell speak for no proof.

  • Damo

    Uh, only a complete idiot would support the known facts? Getting desperate now that you accidentally exposed your agenda.

  • Damo

    I don’t accept opinions at all, I accept facts. When you actually post some,we can talk.

  • You obviously accept neither opinions, or facts; unless they are considered by you to support the pro-vaccine agenda. All other information is considered immediately by you, to be off the table of any honest and diligent debate. You aren’t biased at all, are you? Do you know how much of the pro-vaccine info and their studies I have looked at and fully considered? The answer is all of it; and in the past eight years of reviewing it all; and unlike you, I can honestly say that

  • Who actually presented with the facts on that subject matter; you, or me? Exposed, what agenda? You have nothing, and you never will. Unlike you, I have no need for any form of desperation.

  • Only within your in denial mind. Any person that knows what goes on here, knows what you really are; a trolling shill. We don’t even need to know who pays you, or what connection to vaccine vested interests you have. Obviously, no one would repeatedly post what you do, and at that endless level of repeated denial, unless that were existing.

  • Damo

    Why not talk about the fact that the Amish do have autism?

    Or does shilling for sexual favors include lying about the Amish as well?

    Go-ahead and debunk what I said. You can’t. But then again you have no integrity, I am not surprised since you admit to prostituting yourself for Mercola.

  • Damo

    Oh Lowell, still haven’t been able to get past the fact that I keep calling you out for being stupid,aliar, and perverted.

    Come back when you actually have facts.

  • Damo

    I would gladly accept any facts that support any position you take Lowell. You just haven’t presented any.

    As for opinions,no, I don’t believe you should be allowed to shill for sexual favors. But that’s not going to stop you.

  • The facts have already been put in front of you; you ignored them.

    Your repeated name calling, and your level of obvious false sexual harassment, should be found as unacceptable on this site.

  • You have no facts, and you still have nothing, but more name calling, and more false harassment. You as well have had it all explained to you, and as to your false accusations. Nothing would ever be enough. You simply refuse to be wrong.

  • No one ever said that no Amish have ever had autism. However, that rate is minuscule compared the rest of the general population.

    And again all you have is more lies, and deliberately false, sexual harassment. No such thing is true, and no such thing ever happened. I have no connection to Mercola, and/or the site, period.

    And I have already put forth the details of the error in your claims, as to the Amish, vaccination, and autism. You actually had nothing to refute that with.

  • Damo

    All you said was my info that proved that autism exists in the Amish community and is genetic and not linked to their vaccinations was trash. You know while also claiming that autism is miniscule (a lie) and that the Amish don’t vaccinate.

    You also got caught advertising for Mercola and admitted that you don’t lie for free or money. Thus you lie for sexual favors.

  • Damo

    Present a fact, not a blog, that proves I am wrong.

  • Damo

    What name calling, I am merely repeating what you yourself have admitted to be true.

  • I have admitted to what to be true? You are simply making it up as you go, and lying. That is all you trolls ever do here is to cause and conduct more intentional disruption, distraction, false discredition, and more personal attacks. You have no intention of ever debating anything here in any honesty, and on any diligent level.

    And yes, all you had in that post was what amounts to simply more falsely accused sexual harassment, and nothing more. There is no other description, or label that you can put on that kind of unfounded accusation.

  • Every post you have made here in fact has shown you to be wrong. Do you actually think you can continue to beat that dead horse and in hopes it somehow gets back up, and runs away? This subject matter has been hashed and re-hashed to its limits, and there is no point to continuing to rub your face in it. There is nothing you are ever going to admit to as being wrong. Not ever, and period.

  • Again, all you are doing here is deliberately wasting my time. And then you are so sick that no matter when and how late night I post, withing minutes, you are right back in here again, re-posting your sick, lying, and twisted trash. Who pays you for that? Or are you just that sick and with somehow a personal vendetta?

    None of your posted article information ever showed any number of Amish, and /or any percentage of Amish that vaccinate. You were told that right from the start. So, do you now have a verifiable source with that information? If not, then why are you simply continuing to beat this and another dead horse, in which you have actually shown nothing at all? If the rate of existing autism is not minuscule as to the Amish population, and in comparison to the known rate of autism diagnosis in the general population of the US; then what is that rate of autism found in the Amish, and provide it from a verifiable source?

    And you still keep arguing for dozens of posts, and when you actually have again and again, nothing to support any claims that you continue to make. The same false claims you have made here made, over and over. These are simple questions. In all of the reply posts you have made here, why have you not answered those simple and basic questions? Again and as I have said, all you are providing for on this site, is for only more disruption and distraction. Smoke and mirrors is what I call it; and as a trolling shill, quite obviously you really are not very good at it. The only thing you are good at is wasting my time; and of course that is all you came here to do.

  • Damo

    Your post is nothing but a lie. I sleep at night, so not sure what you are talking about me posting minutes after you do. I literally heck this when I am on the toilet in the morning because that is what I think of you. Also, did you read any of those papers? They most certainly did discuss vaccination rates.
    Are you that stupid that you think I didn’t read my own source material. Pick one of my links, just one, and debunk it. With specifics. You won’t because you don’t understand scientific writings. You would rather throw out a blanket statement that everything I say is trash.

  • Damo

    Once again, prove how what I said is wrong.

  • Damo

    But Lowell, I am just repeating what you already said about yourself.

  • 95% of anything you state or imply, is a twisted lie. Is the measure of successful reply posting for you, simply being caught up in believing your own lies?

  • No need to, as it is all self evident for any reader with two eye balls, and a basic level of reading comprehension.

  • So when do you sleep if you are up posting at 1 am? You know that you sit there waiting and you reply within minutes after the first post I make, and after I have been gone for up to 24 hrs.

    I am not interested in your toilet habits.

    I read your source material, and there was no such thing in any of it. It is thus irrelevant if you actually ever read it.

    I obvious understand science better than you do, and if that were not so, you would not see me posting and replying with what I do.

    Go ahead and present with the data I asked for, and copy and paste it from your articles. You are nothing but lazy. Again, what number or percentage of the total Amish population vaccinates, and produce that from a verifiable source as to that data collection. Additionally present with what number of the total Amish population number, has been diagnosed with autism? And here you are dozens of reply posts into this, and still floundering as to that information. If you can’t do that, then as I said, your claims and your articles, are irrelevant trash.

  • Damo

    If you really think I am up at 1 am because of you, you are a narcissist.

    I will not copy and paste anything. I presented actual research studies and the fact that you won’t read them is telling.
    I will continue to post the fact that you are scientifically illiterate until you prove otherwise.

  • Damo

    Whenever one of you anti-vaxxers say the words “self evident” the only thing that is self evident is how ignorant you are. What is there a guide out there on how to avoid learning?

  • Damo

    My, my when you post this garbage that I am repeating was it a lie then? Anyone can read what we have said and see what a fraud you are.

  • Damo

    Poor, poor Lowell. You are like a rat trapped in a corner. You have no idea how to read the scientific literature. You want me to copy and paste the relevant information because you can’t identify it on your own. You post blogs as if they were facts. You have been caught advertising for Mercola and have admitted to me that you would trade sides if the price (i.e. sexual favors) was right.

    Now that I have exposed you for the floundering idiot shill that you are, you want to personally insult me. Too bad, it is too late. Everyone can see what a fraud you and your blog are. Your fans are falling away as they realize they have been hoodwinked. Those that stick around are just as deluded as you.

    My mission is accomplished. You and all your fraudulent posts have been exposed. The only thing left for you to do is admit that you lie and spend your remaining years quietly reflecting on how you can correct all your wrongs.

  • Wow, do you ever live in an entirely delusional and lying world. I have never admitted to any such thing, and your claims are again and again nothing but crazed libelous slander. Your repeatedly crazed and personally attacking rants only get longer, and at the same time that you can honesty respond to nothing at all.

    You would love in your twisted and delusional mind for that to be the outcome; however, the reality of it all is that no such thing is ever going to happen.

  • And what kind of a cognitively challenged idiot, would ever believe that? Actually believing you own lies, is a sign of a serious problem.

  • I have already shown repeatedly the evidence of your own deliberate and persistent ignorance, so called Damo. If such a guide exists, obviously you living by it. Does it have the words, how to remain a mislead sheeple, in the title?

  • You have actually been up posting here, even later than that.

    You posted no studies at all. Face it. Again, and sorry to bust your bubble and your persistent delusions; but if you are so scientifically literate, and if you have all the needed studies, why can you not actually respond to this?

    9 Questions For The Pro-Vaxers
    http://www.vacfacts.info/9-questions-for-the-pro-vaxers.html

  • Damo

    More lies from Lowell. First, unlike you I work for a living, so no, I haven’t been posting all hours of the night. Like I said, I take care of you the same time I take care of the rest of my excrement. Second, I have posted many studies. Third, you don’t have the scientific knowledge to have an actual conversation about your 9 questions.

  • Damo

    Nah, the only guide I and others use is called scientific literacy, you should try it instead of shilling.

  • Damo

    Like I said, anyone can simply read your posts and see that you are either ignorant or a fraud. Or both.

  • Damo

    So you say.

  • So I know, for a fact.

  • “LOL”. Really? I am informationally beating you to a literal pulp, on every level. Just face it.

  • Then why can you not answer even one of those 9 questions, as to the existing vaccine safety science? Your lying delusions do not equal facts, and no matter how much you ignore what is really going on here, and then demand others to see a different and unrealistic outcome, that never actually happened.

  • I work 12 hours a day for a living, on a rotating schedule. Is there anything you wont falsely fabricate and misrepresent? Again, at this point this is not about my scientific study knowledge, but your scientific study knowledge. Are you going to answer the questions, or are you just going to post 25 more reply posts, with your continued false excuses in them?

  • Damo

    No, it is about your scientific knowledge since I have presented facts that you have dismissed out of hand by calling them trash. You don’t understand scientific writings, as evidenced by the fact that you publish an opinion filled blog.
    Also, you were caught shilling.

  • Damo

    Because you keep bringing up these 9 questions does not prove that I am wrong, it proves that you are deflecting. Do what I say, show me how my links are trash. Only then will you prove that you have the understanding for us to have an actual conversation.

  • Damo

    You are delusional if you believe that to be true. Opinions and blogs are not facts, idiot.

  • Damo

    The only thing you know for a fact is how much Mercola pays for links to his site.

  • At least I provide referenced to scientific studies, and direct analysis evidence; and all while you provide nothing.

    You didn’t even have to copy and paste it. Where is the said data on the Amish, and that I asked for? All you had to do was provide it. So, after 30 plus reply posts that you have made evading the questions on the Amish issue; when are you going to actually provide the data, and the evidence? Again, you said it was there, but it is not there.

  • Scientific studies showing directly the physiologically based harm of vaccines, and when combined with those 9 questions you continue to refuse to answer, really make for a strong case against the pro-vax trolling shills, like you. You can continue to ignore that, all you want.

  • Jesus baby

    You haven’t asked me for data on the Amish, idiot.

  • I specifically asked for that. What is the verified number or percentage of Amish that vaccinate, and vaccinate their children, as number of and as to the total population? What as well is the rate of existing diagnosed autism in the Amish community, in comparison to the general population? Or are you again not interested in visualizing, any vaccine reality?

  • Jesus baby

    like I just told you, you disoriented oaf, you haven’t asked me for Amish data. Whatever clouded memories are going through your disturbed mind are those of a conversation with someone else. But I feel your rage. I think you should see someone.

  • You are directly involved with all of these so called vaccine truth debate discussions; you, and so called Damo. Where is your answer? How about if you answer an additional question, are you two, one and the same person?

  • Jesus baby

    Hmm, looks like the Amish vaccination rate is around 70%:

    http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2011/06/23/peds.2009-2599.abstract

  • That is obviously a very misleading, and false interpretation of the data they published in this study of Amish vaccination rates. .

    Out of 1000 mailed surveys, there were 359 respondents, (37%). 68% stated that all of their children had received at least 1 immunization, and 17% reported that some of their children had received at least 1 immunization. Only 14% of the parents reported that none of their children had received immunizations. Eighty-six percent of the parents who completely exempted their children from vaccines stated that the main reason they do not vaccinate their children is concern over adverse effects. Many parents indicated that they allow their children to receive only some vaccines because of concern about the way certain vaccines are produced.

    So, out of 300 respondents that say they have vaccinated some of their children, the number of vaccines they received can be confirmed to have been possibly only one vaccine, or very few vaccines; and certainly and obviously not the entire CDC vaccine schedule, that the general population receives. It is just like i said.

    And comparatively what is the rate of existing autism diagnosis in that same group of people? Do you have that information?

    You are sure are good at attempting worthless smoke screens, J baby.

    Underimmunization in Ohio’s Amish: Parental Fears Are a Greater Obstacle Than Access to Care

    Abstract

    Objective: Holmes County, Ohio, one of the largest Amish communities in the world, has persistently low immunization rates. Studies of other Amish communities have revealed that parents do not immunize their children because of lack of access to immunizations. Our study explored reasons that Amish parents in the previously uninvestigated Holmes County population exempt themselves from immunizations.

    Methods: In January 2007, questionnaires for assessing attitudes regarding immunizations were mailed to a random sampling of 1000 Amish parents in Holmes County.

    Results: Thirty-seven percent of the parents responded. Among the 359 respondents, 68% stated that all of their children had received at least 1 immunization, and 17% reported that some of their children had received at least 1 immunization. Only 14% of the parents reported that none of their children had received immunizations. Eighty-six percent of the parents who completely exempted their children from vaccines stated that the main reason they do not vaccinate their children is concern over adverse effects. Many parents indicated that they allow their children to receive only some vaccines because of concern about the way certain vaccines are produced.

    Conclusions: The reasons that Amish parents resist immunizations mirror reasons that non-Amish parents resist immunizations. Even in America’s closed religious communities, the major barrier to vaccination is concern over adverse effects of vaccinations. If 85% of Amish parents surveyed accept some immunizations, they are a dynamic group that may be influenced to accept preventative care. Underimmunization in the Amish population must be approached with emphasis on changing parental perceptions of vaccines in addition to ensuring access to vaccines.

    http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2011/06/23/peds.2009-2599.abstract?sso=1&sso_redirect_count=1&nfstatus=401&nftoken=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000&nfstatusdescription=ERROR%3a+No+local+token

  • Jesus baby

    Well if you have better data on the Amish vaccination rate let’s see it.

  • That is I believe an accurate assessment, and at best that is the typical outcome as to vaccination in the Amish. I think that in the over-all population of Amish that you will as well find large groups that do not vaccinate at all.

    Mayer Eisenstein when he was alive, stated that he had nearly 40 thousand medical files in his Home First practice, as to families that do not vaccinate.He had those files after a life time of serving the Amish in his practice. He stated that he had found only three cases of childhood autism in his practice, and in all three cases, the mothers had-had the thimerosal containing Rhogam shots, at that time of pregnancy.

    So why had not the CDC ever sent anyone to review that outcome? I will tell you why; they do not want to know or realize the truth. They are not interested in the vaccine truth.

  • Jesus baby

    So you don’t have anything else. Who cares what the Amish vaccination rate is anyway? Their autism rate is low because they don’t have the screening kids have that attend public schools and get regular doctor appointments.

  • Who cares about that data? I can tell you who. Thousands of people that want to know and realize that the Amish have a low vaccination rate, and nearly no existing autism. People that are denied a real entirely vaccinated verses entirely unvaccinated health outcome study, done with government and independent over-sight. In the vaccine informational game, the Amish data and the reality of that, is a significant finding. That is why people, and people like you, should care.

    Finally! Studies Prove That Unvaccinated Children Are Far Healthier
    http://humansarefree.com/2014/04/finally-studies-prove-that-unvaccinated.html?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork

  • Jesus baby

    I already showed you that with the only data available about 70% of the Amish are vaccinated. And I already explained to you that Amish children don’t get the ASD screening that other children receive.
    Your “unvaccinated children are healthier” crap is just based on anti-vax surveys of anti-vax parents.
    You really don’t have the background for this at all.

  • Again, you are misrepresenting that claim. Six posts above this one currently, you were shown what that information really states. How many vaccines does it say were received, and as to the those that replied in the survey that they had vaccinated at least one child?

    Go ahead and copy and paste that article information, and like I did; and if you find anything different than what I stated above. There is no way you can claim to that 70% general figure, when the information states that what was reported was that some of their children had received at least 1 vaccine. Is that the same as claiming that those children received the entire CDC childhood vaccine schedule, and as you are obviously attempting to insinuate? Of course not. You yet have nothing but what that Pediatrics article states; and nothing less, and/or nothing more than that.

  • Jesus baby

    What do you have? You’re an idiot.

  • What we have with that one single article is that there is no evidence that the Amish families largely are vaccinated, and vaccinating on the standard CDC vaccine schedule.That article covers however only 359 Amish respondents to a basic survey sent by the pro-vax organization, Pediatrics. There are as well the said previous statements made by Dr Mayer Eisenstein, while he conducted his medical practice within a large population of Amish. The point is that the CDC could have conducted a vaccinated verses unvaccinated health outcomes study within that population, years ago; and they have yet refused to. That study of course would be comparing the study outcome as well as to the general population of children which are fully vaccinated on the CDC schedule.

    The real idiot is you, and which can not and refuses to make any sense at all, out of the basic common sense that is outlined here.

  • Jesus baby

    Explain how there wouldn’t be too many confounders for that analysis to mean anything at all.

  • How about if you explain how there would be to many confounders for that analysis to mean anything at all? You made the claim, not I. Get started.

    How simple is it and this. One group is full vaccinated as to the CDC vaccine schedule, and one group is not vaccinated at all. You compare the health outcomes of the two said groups. Pretty simple stuff. As I said, name and describe the confounders that are implying that you would expect to find in regard to that study? I am wondering if it would ever be possible for you on any level to ever put forth anything more than just repeated false excuses?

  • Jesus baby

    Do you even know what confounders are? Do you think completely unvaccinated Amish kids have the same nutrition as other kids? The same genetics? The same use of medications? Do they live in the same environments? The same physical activity? Sexual activity? Drug and alcohol use? How many more do you need? YOU DON’T HAVE THE BACKGROUND FOR THIS

  • How can you say I don’t even know what confounder’s are, when you don’t even have a damned clue what I know? It is just a repeated and standard trolling shill response.

    And oh, so not its all about nutrition; and when you deny that the rest of the time. What evidence has there ever been for any claim that the Amish have superior genetics? In fact most of the claims are just the opposite, as to their at times close relationship.

    And oh, so now its as well about medications? So are you now saying the pharma drugs are dangerous and causing health problems? Oh and so now because they likely get more fresh air and don’t drink municipal fluoridated water, they may be healthier, and never mind that the load of 49 doses of 14 toxic and known contaminated vaccines would have ANY adverse effect on that, and public health. Oh, so now they work harder, and that is just such a major confounder, and as all are these false excuses you always come up with…wow. Oh, and so they as well have what, more or better sexual activity too? What? OMG shut down the said study, these people are not average humans, they are super humans, and we can not go near a health outcomes study like that. Their superior heath has nothing to do with not being vaccinated; and don’t you forget it. Case closed.

    It is actually YOU, THAT DOESN’T HAVE THE BACKGROUND FOR THIS, so called J baby. You are a false excuses making trolling and shilling FRAUD, and that is the only background you have. You have stupid and false excuses for everything from A to Z.

  • Damo

    What studies? You post opinions from doctors and call them facts. You do not have the intelligence for this.

  • Damo

    This is the truth. If Lowell lived near an Amish community, he would know that the numbers of Autistic children are not accurate–you can see them everywhere.

  • Damo

    But the Amish are not entirely unvaccinated. That is the problem.You are making shit up again.

  • Damo

    First, you claimed that Jesus baby said a bunch of stuff he didn’t.

    Second your claim about supergenes counters the one in the blog post that you previously posted as proof that vaccines cause autism because there are no vaccines in Amish communities. You are getting your lies mixed up again.

  • Damo

    So you did read the studies I put forth. Glad you could see that the AMISH ACTUALLY VACCINATE. Your original claim was that they don’t. Not that they don’t according to the CDC schedule, or that they don’t fully vaccinate. Good to see you admit to your lie.

  • Jesus baby

    So Lowell you’re proposing we look for differences in health between a very small number of kids in an isolated community (completely unvaccinated Amish children whose legal guardians consent to such a study) and a whole lot more mainstream fully vaccinated kids, right? Even if you ignore all the other differences between them that could influence health outcomes (confounders), how many Amish kids do you think could be enrolled? 12? 10,000? How many would you think would be needed to find out anything with statistical significance? (You have no idea)

    Now here’s a vaxxed/unvaxxed German study that’s already been done: http://www.aerzteblatt.de/int/archive/article?id=80869

    What was the only difference they found? “The lifetime prevalence of diseases preventable by vaccination was markedly higher in unvaccinated than in vaccinated subjects.”
    So why waste time and money doing another study the anti-vax cult isn’t going to believe either?

  • Jesus baby

    He probably has seen Harrison Ford in Witness though.

  • Jeff/Bridgit/Kiko

    Anti science site? Are you a psycho?