Baby Foreskin Is Being Used To Make Vaccines

Warning: Some people may find the information in this article disturbing and the images graphic.

Every year, some infants are circumcised. During this surgical procedure, part of the child’s protective penile tissue is removed. This tissue removed from his penis may be sold to companies and institutions seeking the rich human fibroblast cells and other cells it contains. Most people are unaware that for decades, vaccine companies have been using these foreskin cells to research, grow and develop vaccines.

Certain microorganisms used by vaccine companies need living human cells to replicate. The cells within foreskin are being used for this purpose. Foreskin cells can be used to turn a wild-type microorganism found in nature into a genetically modified microorganism for use in vaccines.

Baby foreskins are used to research rubella, varicella and human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccines. They are used to make cytomegalovirus vaccines, which is something pharmaceutical companies have been working on the last few decades. This vaccine is being created using foreskin cells and clinical trials have already begun. The child’s DNA whose foreskin was used to make the vaccine cannot be fully removed from the vaccines prior to administration. Researchers are also using foreskin to create a human telomerase reverse transcriptase (hTERT) immortalized cell line for use in vaccines.

Cells isolated from infant foreskin are preferred because the infant cells have a longer lifespan than those isolated from adult foreskin. The ongoing issue with companies using infant foreskin to develop vaccines and other products is vast; only a small fraction can be discussed here. It is important to research how vaccines are made prior to receiving them, if you want to avoid unwanted contaminants in your body.

Hospitals and Clinics Can Sell Foreskin Removed from Newborns

What we call foreskin is actually part of a whole skin system in both males and females. During the male circumcision procedure, twenty to fifty percent of the skin that protects the baby’s penis is surgically removed, with or without pain medicine. There are occasions where surgical accidents happen and more is removed.

If a hospital or clinic obtained consent to use the foreskin for purposes they felt were desired, the removed foreskin may then be sold at that point, even if the baby didn’t survive.

Foreskin is being removed during a circumcision procedure.

Surgically removing the foreskin kills at least one baby boy in the United States every two days. Before being circumcised, these infants are already trying to rid their body of the toxic chemicals injected from the synthetic vitamin K shot and hepatitis B vaccine given soon after birth. These circumcision deaths usually occur from an infection that arises, trauma experienced, blood loss, or their tiny lungs burst from intense crying. This is a conservative estimate since circumcision deaths are usually not reported in the United States or elsewhere. [1,2]

Each hospital or clinic determines what can happen to the excised piece of skin. It may be discarded as biological waste, sent home with the parents who want to save it, or it may become the property of the hospital or clinic to further use for what they deem necessary, if a consent form was signed agreeing to this.

How Foreskin Cells Are Being Isolated

After the baby was circumcised, if the goal is to sell the foreskin for profit, it can be preserved and legally sold. Foreskin can also be donated.

Once the foreskin has been obtained by researchers in a lab, it is further processed. The foreskin is laid in a dish and then cut into strips. It is then soaked in an enzymatic solution to help the tissue layers separate. When ready, each strip of foreskin is peeled apart to separate the epidermal top layer from the dermal layer below that. The two layers are put in separate dishes. This is done to isolate specific cells within each layer.

The top epidermal layer of the foreskin contains cells that produce keratin, called keratinocytes. The dermis layer below contains fibroblast cells. It is these keratinocytes and fibroblast cells that are used to research, grow and develop vaccine strains.

A step by step list of this procedure is explained on the Thermo Fisher Scientific web page, titled Isolation, Primary Culture, and Cryopreservation of Human Neonatal Fibroblasts. [3]

From the publication:

“Isolation and cultivation of human keratinocytes from skin or plucked hair for the generation of induced pluripotent stem cells

Figure 2: Enzymatic isolation of the epidermis and the dermis.(a) Foreskin or other skin sample is placed epidermal side down (in this case, dark pigmented epidermis) and loose connective tissue is scraped away using a scalpel. (b) The tissue is cut into smaller pieces of 4–5 mm width and placed in dispase solution overnight at 4 °C. (c) The next day, the epidermis is peeled off and placed in a second dish in the medium. (d) The end result is one dish with the dermis that can be used for fibroblast isolation and the other dish with the epidermis that can be used for keratinocyte isolation.” [4]

There are other methods to get the foreskin to separate. [5]

Once the specific cells in the foreskin are isolated, the foreskin has been broken down and is not recognizable anymore. The image below represents fibroblast cells isolated form the foreskin of a baby, after being fed a growth mixture that included fetal bovine serum.

Image Credit: Primcells.com

Microscopic view of altered foreskin fibroblast cells used for research.

“Skin fibroblasts are cells within the dermis layer of skin which are responsible for generating the extracellular matrix and the connective tissue of the skin. These cells play an important role in wound healing and skin recovery.  Human neonatal skin fibroblasts from PrimCells, llc are prepared with the highest standard from foreskin tissue. They retain high proliferating capability and can be cultured for at least 20 doublelings. These cells are your ideal choice for skin related researches.” [6]

Infant Foreskin Cells are Then Cryopreserved and Ready to Order

After further manipulation, the cells are usually kept in a tube and cryopreserved in liquid nitrogen, until sold and used for further research. [7]

“Dr. Tinari estimates that between the surgery and the foreskin’s resale value, each foreskin is worth approximately $100,000.” [8]

Tubes of fibroblast cells derived from infant foreskin are worth a lot of money. One tube of these foreskin fibroblast cells, from a baby aged 14 days or less, is sold for hundreds of dollars per tube. [9,10]

Isolated and frozen human neonatal foreskin keratinocytes containing cancer-causing SV40 monkey viral DNA sequences are being sold for nearly a thousand dollars or more per order, from removed infant foreskin. [11]

Pharmaceutical companies buy these cells. They can take microorganisms and passage them through the foreskin cells using growth mediums made from calf blood and other chemicals, so that they can grow genetically modified vaccine strains. This is done to make new vaccines and to research existing ones. [12,13]

Human neonatal foreskin fibroblast cells for sale.

Photo Credit: Advancedbimatrix.com

Cytomegalovirus Vaccine Development Using Foreskin is Underway

There are actually hundreds of vaccines currently being developed; some are being made using foreskin fibroblast cells. [14]

For several decades there have been efforts to create a vaccine for a congenital cytomegalovirus viral infection that can be passed from the mother to her unborn child in utero, if the mother has been infected. Even though a virus has not been proven to be the cause of the infection – it is more likely caused by diet, environmental pollution, vaccines, pesticides and other synthetic chemicals the person came in contact with – researchers somehow assume this infection is caused by a virus and they want a vaccine for it.

A cytomegalovirus (CMV) vaccine being developed using infant foreskins has already entered clinical trials. Foreskin is used to attenuate the vaccine strain, which means the strain in the vaccine itself has been weakened from its original state, to make it less virulent in the vaccine. DNA from the baby boy who owned that foreskin ends up in these vaccines because the DNA cannot be fully removed. [15]

Cytomegalovirus Attenuation Method and Vaccine Patent Information – US 4058598 A

“The attenuation of the C.M.V. strain involves a considerable number of passages in tissue cultures particularly in human fibroblast cells to substantially reduce its pathogenicity but without loss of sufficient immunogenicity and infectivity.”

“The susceptible cell cultures suitable for serial passages according to the present invention include human cell cultures preferably without contaminating viruses or other microorganisms, such as mycoplasma…Primary and secondary human fibroblast cells are especially suitable for the purpose, such as the known embryonic fibroblasts (M.A.F.), foreskin fibroblasts and diploid embryonic lung fibroblast cells…”

“Human cells have been found to be necessary for C.M.V. since the virus is highly species specific and grows well only in human cells. Fibroblast cells are preferred for the purpose…”

“It is advantageous to propagate the virus in more than one of these fibroblast cells. A passage history involving at least 8 passages in each of the above-mentioned types of cultures, i.e. M.A.F., human foreskin fibroblasts, H.E.L. and M.R.C.-5 cells, has been preferred.” [16]

Cytomegalovirus Vaccines and Methods of Production Patent Information – WO 2009049138 A1

“It has been demonstrated in accordance with the present invention that laboratory strains of CMV that have been passaged repeatedly in fibroblasts can be successfully conditioned by propagation on the selected cell line.”

“For example, a CMV strain can be passaged multiple times in fibroblasts, then amplified in epithelial cells and thereafter used to produce a vaccine. It will be appreciated that the CMV can be amplified/propagated for one or more rounds in the selected cell type.” [17]

Cytomegalovirus Vaccines and Methods of Production Patent Information – US 20100285059 A1

“Methods of increasing diversity in cytomegalovirus vaccines through the selection of cell type in which the virus is propagated, and the use of cytomegalovirus produced by those methods in the development of vaccine compositions, are disclosed. Vaccine compositions comprising CMV isolated from epithelial cells are also disclosed.”

“The invention relates generally to the field of vaccine development. More specifically, the invention relates to methods of increasing diversity in cytomegalovirus vaccines through the selection of cell type in which the virus is propagated, and to the use of cytomegalovirus produced by those methods in the development of vaccine compositions.” [18]

Human Telomerase Reverse Transcriptase (hTERT) Immortalized Cell Line, for Use in Vaccines Information

“ATCC human telomerase reverse transcriptase (hTERT) immortalized cell lines represent a breakthrough in cell biology research that combines the in vivo nature of primary cells with the traditional cell line’s ability to survive continuously in vitro.” [19]

Htert-Immortalised Cell Lines, Their Preparation and Use Patent Information – WO 2002016555 A2

“An immortalised cell line is disclosed, which is suitable for use in vaccine production …”

“As described above, primary human fibroblasts have a limited life span. This is therefore a particular problem for scientists working with HCMV. Experimental variations are caused as different laboratories use different cell sources, and fibroblasts change as they accrue population doublings. Stocks of fibroblasts become exhausted, and adventitious agents { eg mycoplasma) may be introduced by using fresh cells (typically human foreskin fibroblasts).”

“It has also been demonstrated that human foreskin fibroblasts immortalised using the human papillomavirus type 16 E6 and E7 oncogenes were able to support efficient virus replication.” [20]

Foreskin Used for Rubella Vaccine Research Information

An excerpt from the 1979 study titled Immunosuppression and Isolation of Rubella Virus from Human Lymphocytes After Vaccination with Two Rubella Vaccines explains how rubella created vaccine strains were passaged through foreskin for research.

“PHA stimulation of lymphocytes infected in vitro with rubella virus vaccine. Lymphocytes from four susceptible individuals were infected in vitro with various doses of rubella virus vaccine, two of them with RA27/3, the other two with HPV77. The vaccine viruses had been passaged twice in tissue culture: RA27/3 in human foreskin fibroblast cells and HPV77 in Vero cells.” [21]

Foreskin Used for HPV Vaccine Research Information

One graphic study, The use of human foreskin cell cultures for isolation of herpesvirus group in the diagnostic laboratory, explains how different foreskins have been used to develop HPV vaccines, using specific types of mice that were severely harmed during this experiment.

“Cell cultures originated from human foreskin (HFS) tissues were used for isolation of viruses from diagnostic specimens. The foreskins were collected in Hank’s balanced salt solution and then processed on the same day by dispersion in trypsin. A week after the trypsin treatment of the tissues, the first cell cultures were ready to use. Continuous subcultures in vitro of the cells gave rise to a colony of cells that multiplied freely in vitro and supported the growth of viruses from the herpes group. In three cases tested in our laboratory in the last 6 months, viruses from the herpes group were isolated on the HES. The cytopathic changes of the HFS cells were observed 5 to 8 days after infection. They were not detected on two other human-origin cell cultures (WI-38 and HEp2) or on primary monkey kidney cells. The viruses isolated from these three cases were cytomegalovirus (CMV) from urine of a 2-week-old baby, a second CMV from a cutaneous lesion of a renal-transplant patient and herpes simplex virus from the eye swab of a young girl. After a few subcultures on the HFS cells, the three viruses produced CPE on the other susceptible human cells. The preparation of HFS cells is easy, the availability of the tissue is high, and the diagnostic value is unquestionable. It is suggested that this tissue and its cell cultures be used more often in diagnostic and research laboratories.” [22, 23]

Foreskin Used for Varicella Vaccine Research Information

Varicella zoster virus (VZV) vaccine studies have also been done using infant foreskin. HFF stands for human foreskin fibroblasts.

One study, Varicella-Zoster Virus Infection of Human Foreskin Fibroblast Cells Results in Atypical Cyclin Expression and Cyclin-Dependent Kinase Activity, states:

“VZV replication is restricted to human and monkey cells, and many cell lines used to propagate the virus are derived from carcinomas in which the cell cycle is perturbed. Thus, primary HFFs were selected for these studies since they become contact inhibited when grown to confluence, which mimics their quiescent state in the dermis, and their cell cycle machinery is regulated normally.” [24]

Other Uses of Infant Foreskin

Researchers have also found ways to manipulate the cells from one baby’s foreskin to grow 250,000 square feet of skin, to make skin grafts for burn victims and diabetic patients.

Foreskin is being used for stem cell research purposes, to make cosmetics, even injectable ones. They are used to replace people’s eyelids and used by oral surgeons to replace the lining of the mouth. The list goes on. Just because researchers have found many uses of the foreskin does not make this acceptable.

It is important to be aware that hospitals and clinics have their own unique circumcision consent form. The fine print can help determine what may happen to the foreskin if it’s removed.

Parents need to do the research and learn what is coming through those vaccine needles. [25, 26]

The Vaccinated Population Is Being Genetically Modified

Vaccines made using cell cultures are contaminated, including those made with human foreskin. These cell cultures are considered hazardous and can spread infectious diseases. Therefore, they shouldn’t be injected or given orally to us if the goal is to keep the population healthy. Cells from all of the once-living biological sources used to make these vaccines can end up in the final product, which ends up in the vaccinated population. [27]

Conclusion

Vaccine companies have regularly used blood and body parts from killed cows, dogs, worms, mice, chickens, human babies, monkeys, guinea pigs, rabbits, hamsters, rats, etc., to make these vaccines, so using foreskin from newborn babies may not surprise some. For many, it is appalling. [28]

Circumcisions fuel multi-billion dollar industries. If you see neonatal foreskin for sale, which is very easy to find on the internet, remember that these newborn children didn’t consent to being circumcised and they didn’t consent for their foreskin to be sold, used for research purposes, or to be injected into the people via vaccines. [29]

In our current time, more parents are researching the purpose of the foreskin and vaccines, leaving their babies naturally the way they were born, intact and vaccine-free.

References:

  1. http://www.drmomma.org/2010/05/death-from-circumcision.html
  2. http://www.cirp.org/library/death/
  3. https://www.thermofisher.com…neonatal-fibroblasts.html
  4. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org…pdf
  5. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4467300/
  6. http://www.primcells.com…Human-SF-neonatal.pdf
  7. https://www.systembio.com/downloads…pdf
  8. https://thetyee.ca/News/2006/07/25/Circumcision/

  9. http://www.foreskin.org/f4sale.htm
  10. https://www.thermofisher.com/order/catalog/product/C0045C
  11. https://www.atcc.org/Products..Foreskin_Keratinocytes/CRL-4048.aspx
  12. http://vaxxter.com/the_disgusting_cow_stuff_in_vaccines/
  13. https://vactruth.com/2013/10/28/7-disgusting-ingredients/
  14. http://phrma-docs…development-drug-list-vaccines.pdf
  15. http://www.clinicalmicrobiologyandinfection.com…
  16. http://www.google.sr/patents/US4058598
  17. http://www.google.sr/patents/WO2009049138A1?cl=en
  18. https://www.google.com/patents/US20100285059
  19. https://www.atcc.org/en/Products/Cells…
  20. https://www.google.com/patents/WO2002016555A2?cl=en
  21. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles…pdf
  22. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/180793

  23. http://jvi.asm.org/content/69/4/2716.full.pdf
  24. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1472175/
  25. http://vaccinechoicecanada.com/vaccine-ingredients…
  26. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads…pdf
  27. http://www.cellprolabs.com/sites/default/files/downloads…pdf
  28. https://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets…pdf
  29. https://www.atcc.org/products/all/SCRC-1041.aspx

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About the author

Augustina Ursino

Augustina Ursino has spent many years researching vaccine ingredients and vaccine reactions. Once she became aware of so many children and adults dying after vaccinations and that most people that survived them are living with vaccine injuries, this impelled her to write these stories. She earned a BS in Marine Biology, focusing on conservation biology and realized it didn’t make sense to inject life forms with the ingredients used in vaccines, under the guise of keeping us healthy. Augustina now writes for VacTruth and continues to help families negatively affected from vaccines.

  • tinakimmel

    Thank you for this shocking, thorough, and well-reearched article! Vaccination and circumcision both rely on deep DENIAL that over millions of years, our bodies have evolved far more exquisitely perfect functioning than anything our recent greed-driven practices could possibly produce. Tina Kimmel, PhD, MSW, MPH

  • That makes it extra dramatic, doesn’t it? I have been against circumcision for as long as I have been against vaccination, which is several decades.

    I am also against vivisection, which Gandhi described as “the blackest of all the black crimes that man is at present committing against God and His fair creation,” and which many other humanitarians and scholars have spoken out against. However, VacTruth not only does NOT speak out against it, but utilizes it in alleged confirmations that animal experiments “prove” vaccines are bad (while the opposition also uses animals experiments to “prove” vaccines are good).

  • Kevin Williams

    I’m curious how you explain how millions of years of evolving our “far more exquisitely perfect [sic] functioning” bodies got us to a life expectancy of about 48 years, but only in the past 60 years or so has life expectancy increased to over 71 years.

  • Hans

    You lost me at; babies die as “their tiny lungs burst from intense crying”. This is a poorly written, sensationalistic and unscientific article. Again.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So the author claims every other day in the US a baby boy dies from circumcision. She references drmomma :)

    But a very quick PubMed search yields:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5296634/

    If you read the section “Prevalence of adverse events of MC” you’ll see in the US there have been no reported deaths in recent times.
    I guess it boils down to what source you’d trust when it comes to medical decision making – a rigorous, highly referenced, evidence-based review article written by research doctors at major academic centers…or drmomma.

  • How much science would be enough for you? Nothing would ever be enough, and you know it. You as well know that you will say anything at all to make denial, and anything all to remain in your own denial. First aborted fetal cells, and now foreskins; could vaccination get any more pathetic, disgusting, and undesirable. But go ahead and inject all the contaminated and toxic vaccines into yourself that you want, so called Hans; and for your better and good health.

  • Really? Which animal studies prove that vaccines are good?

  • And you actually believe this biased trash and junk science, from none other than the AAP and the CDC? Wow.

    Here it reads: [RESULTS

    Evidence-based policy statements by the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) support infant and later age male circumcision (MC) as a desirable public health measure. Our systematic review of relevant literature over the past decade yielded 140 journal articles that met our inclusion criteria. Together, these showed that early infant MC confers immediate and lifelong benefits by protecting against urinary tract infections having potential adverse long-term renal effects, phimosis that causes difficult and painful erections and “ballooning” during urination, inflammatory skin conditions, inferior penile hygiene, candidiasis, various sexually transmissible infections in both sexes, genital ulcers, and penile, prostate and cervical cancer].

    Read more: in this highly biased, lying, circumcision crazed, and JUNK science study, above.

    How about some real data.

    Just a harmless snip?
    100+ circumcision deaths each year in United States
    http://www.circinfo.org/USA_deaths.html

    You can argue this data all day long, but one thing is for sure, and that is that you will never get the truth from Pediatrics or the CDC.
    http://circumcisiondecisionmaker.com/circumcision-facts/

  • Here are some likely contributions: good hygiene practices (both at home and at the hospital), waste management, water treatment, indoor plumbing, better food preparation and storage, better nutrition…etc.

    I suspect if we could have vaccinated our way to good health, we would have done it by now.

  • You posted a meta study then copy and pasted a snippet of text to confirm your bias. Can you tell me where in this paper it actually discusses infant mortality? Thanks.

  • Ron Roy

    Can’t stand the truth can you? Got it.

  • Ron Roy
  • Kevin Williams

    I’m surprised it took so long for someone to trot out the hygiene and sanitation argument.

    So tell me exactly what significant breakthroughs in hygiene, waste management, water treatment, etc. have occurred in the U.S. since WWII that have resulted in a 10-year increase in lifespan for men and even more for women, and a 75% reduction in infant mortality rates (a major factor in life expectancy).

    We certainly have vaccinated our way to a near-elimination of vaccine-preventable childhood diseases. Unless, of course, you’ve got another credible explanation for, say, the 90+% reduction in measles morbidity between 1960 and 1970 in the U.S.

  • Sure. How about the mass manufacturing and distribution of soap? According to a double blind randomized study by the Centers for Disease Control using plain soap reduced the incidence by 53%.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16023513

    I do not fear measles, perhaps as you do, any more than I fear diarrhoea. What value do you place on reducing disease burden or sanitation?

  • Kevin Williams

    I read your study, but I’m not sure how handwashing in Karachi, Pakistan had any impact on the U.S. life expectancy and infant mortality rates I specifically asked about

    I place tremendous value on sanitation for reducing disease burden in the U.S.–120 years ago. But again, I asked you to tell me what breakthroughs account for the significant increase in lifespan and reduction in infant mortality in the U.S. since WWII.

    Perhaps you don’t fear measles since we are 50+ years removed from 500,000 cases and 500 deaths per year in the US. How do you suppose we got to where we are today from where we were in 1960? Diarrhea kills more than 360 infants in the U.S. every year.

    Measles still kills nearly 150,000 children worldwide every year, and diarrhea kills over 800,000. Certainly sanitation has made and continues to make progress against diarrhea, and the rotavirus vaccines are showing significant results even in countries with generally good sanitation. Unfortunately, sanitation plays no role at all in reducing measles morbidity.

  • Kevin Williams

    Why would the paper Dr. Wegner cited discuss infant mortality? The paper is a meta-study comparing the risks and benefits of MC. Since the study found no MC-related deaths, any discussion of infant mortality would be irrelevant.

    What we have here is a study published in a peer-reviewed journal that documents 0 deaths from circumcision in the US during the study period, countering the claim of 100 deaths per year in the US. So the next step would be to compare the credibility of this study with the credibility of the study claiming 100 deaths per year. For that, see my response to Ron Roy above.

  • Kevin Williams

    “The only study which presents the contrary data on the circumcision‑related death has estimated that approximately 9.01/100,000 neonatal circumcision‑related deaths occur annually in the United States. This study has been shown to have no credibility, as it was based on an assumption that the difference in annual death rate between male and female infants was entirely due to circumcision‑related deaths. Morris and co‑authors in their recent study showed that the sex difference in infant mortality was similar for countries having low and high infant circumcision rates.”
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3503386/

    and

    “The claim by Travis et al. of ‘0.9 deaths per 10 000 circumcisions’ is from Bollinger (2010), who assumed sex differences in infant mortality in the USA are entirely due to MC. But sex differences are also seen in countries with low neonatal MC (Table 1). The cause is multifactorial. Deaths from medical MC are exceedingly rare, as Darby and Van Howe (2011) confirm. They are mostly from general anaesthesia, local anaesthesia being safer.”
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3663581/

  • Kevin Williams

    Actually, you’re just citing the same flawed estimate over and over again.

    “The only study which presents the contrary data on the circumcision‑related death has estimated that approximately 9.01/100,000 neonatal circumcision‑related deaths occur annually in the United States. This study has been shown to have no credibility, as it was based on an assumption that the difference in annual death rate between male and female infants was entirely due to circumcision‑related deaths. Morris and co‑authors in their recent study showed that the sex difference in infant mortality was similar for countries having low and high infant circumcision rates.”
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3503386/

  • Karen Burka

    Thank you for this article! I’ve been an intactivist since my first son was born (he’s about to turn 16) and also, anti-vaccine since he was 2, when he had a severe reaction to a Mumps vaccine that led us to call an ambulance to our home and take him to the hospital. He was fine (thank goodness) but it led me to research vaccines more and ultimately, decide against any further immunizations for him and our second son (when he came along). I should have known the two practices were horribly linked….

  • I don’t fear measles because we live in a country where we have relatively good health – meaning ample access to nutritious food containing Vitamin A, protein, etc.

    Being a doctor, you should be well read on the risk factors for fatal diseases, like measles.

  • Augustina

    August 17- August 28, 2017- Zackery Tray Rollins III recently died at the age of 11 days old in Texas, after a routine circumcision. His wound kept bleeding. He was taken to Beaumont Emergency Center, given meds and sent home. He lost too much blood and passed away. People need to understand there is no database tracking circumcision deaths and most parents do not speak out when this happens. It doesn’t take a lot of common sense to learn that babies put through this procedure can and do die from it. And his foreskin could have been sold for use in vaccines or other research.

    https://pacestancil.secure.tributecenteronline.com/obituaries/Zackery-Tray-Rollins-III?obId=2519254#/obituaryInfo

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  • Augustina

    VacTruth does not support vivisection and never has. So many animals are harmed making and developing vaccines. It is hard to understand how scientists turn a blind-eye and willingly perform such cruel and inhumane science experiments on living species. It is disturbing to see them work with foreskin in a lab too. That foreskin was ripped and cut off of a child without consent and then sold or donated for research purposes without the parents even knowing. It is pretty obvious that if the truth cannot be explained to the parents in black and white that hiding this information is necessary to allow this to continue, because most parents would not agree to this.

  • Augustina

    Emory University partners with the CDC. At the Emory Vaccine Center in Georgia, foreskin is being used to develop and research vaccines.

    Materials and Methods

    Cells and viruses

    “The AD169 strain of HCMV was purchased from American Type Culture Collection (#VR-538) whereas Towne strain was kindly provided by Dr. E. Mocarski (Emory Vaccine Center). Viruses were propagated in primary human foreskin fibroblast cells (FSK) purchased from American Type Culture Collection (#CCD-111sk) following the protocol provided by Dr. E. Mocarski. The AD169 strain was used for DNA construct preparations and neutralization assay and Towne strain (live attenuated) was applied for immunizations.”

    “In the year 2000, the Institute of Medicine identified HCMV vaccine development as a high priority due to the lifelong and severe morbidity of newborns who develop symptomatic congenital disease in utero.3 Over the years, many attempts were made to develop an efficacious protective CMV vaccine. Different strategies, either used alone or in combination, have been clinically evaluated, including live attenuated virus, subunit vaccines, and viral vectors encoding different HCMV immunogens. Administration of Towne strain HCMV provided partial protection against severe disease in transplant recipients but was unsuccessful in protecting against infection in children who were exposed to pregnant mothers who shed the virus.4 Although preliminary reports demonstrated safety of a Towne/Toledo chimera vaccine, efficacy studies have never been attempted.5”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3906396/

    Clinical trials using the Towne strain derived from using foreskin was trialed in human subjects, as shown in TABLE 2: Phase II Clinical trials of CMV vaccines

    http://www.clinicalmicrobiologyandinfection.com/article/S1198-743X(14)60182-8/fulltext#tbl1

  • Augustina

    Sadly this is true. Spend some time watching circumcision videos. It won’t be hard to understand how this can and does happen.

  • Ron Roy

    Since only 10% of adverse events from drugs are reported each year we can assume the same under reporting goes from deaths do to circumcisions.

    However, a number of inefficiencies appear when
    reviewing AERS. The fragmented and voluntary process of FDA adverse
    events reporting can be inaccurate and time-delayed. Drug safety
    professionals estimate that only 10% of adverse events are reported to
    the FDA every year, grossly underestimating the number of actual adverse
    events associated with a medication (Heinrich, 2000).https://www.psqh.com/analysis/a-closer-look-at-fdas-adverse-event-reporting-system/

  • Ron Roy

    ”But again, I asked you to tell me what breakthroughs account for the
    significant increase in lifespan and reduction in infant mortality in
    the U.S. since WWII” Increased knowledge concerning what good nutrition is and we can’t disregard the number of people who supplement their diet with vitamins and minerals.

  • New Research Study Shows Developmental Delays in Monkeys …
    https://vactruth.com/2009/09/30/new-research-study-shows

    Monkeys Get Autism-like Reactions to MMR & Other Vaccines …
    https://vactruth.com/2012/04/29/monkeys-get-autism

  • Karl Wegner MD

    “He lost too much blood and passed away.”
    Any evidence? Autopsy report maybe?

  • Here are just a few. If you want more, just ask.

    Live Attenuated Pertussis Vaccine BPZE1 Protects Baboons …
    https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/216/1/117/3848964/Live

    Avian Flu Virus Vaccines Show Protection in Animal Studies …
    https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/avian-flu

    Modified Experimental Vaccine Protects Monkeys from Deadly …
    https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/modified-experimental

    Pediatric Vaccines and Neurodevelopment: Primate Study …
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/277602145_Pediatric
    Pediatric Vaccines and Neurodevelopment: Primate Study Finds No Adverse Behavioral Effects

    Ebola whole virus vaccine shown effective, safe in primates
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/03/150326151426.htm

    Single-Injection Vaccine Protects Nonhuman Primates …
    jvi.asm.org/content/83/14/7296.full

  • Karl Wegner MD

    10% or 100% of zero is still zero.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    It’s not a meta-analysis if that’s what you mean-it’s a review article. And I linked the whole article, not a “snippet”. You should read it someday.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    It’s from Australia actually. They reviewed 140 articles over 10 years. The terms “AAP” and “CDC” are in the paragraph you copied though, so props for that!

  • Kevin Williams

    Frankly, I think we can disregard the number of people who supplement their diet with vitamins and minerals. Here are two studies to support that (and there are others if you want them).
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4114071/
    https://www.harvardprostateknowledge.org/vitamin-e-may-indeed-increase-the-risk-of-prostate-cancer

    I think we can also disregard 70 years of evolution (which was the point of my original post).

    What we can’t disregard is medical breakthroughs that have reduced deaths from childhood diseases and increase survival rates from many types of cancers.

  • Kevin Williams

    I’m not a doctor, nor have I ever claimed to be one.

    We, as a nation, have always had ample access to nutritious food. Paradoxically, our access to unhealthy food has increased dramatically since WWII, while our life expectancy has increased and our infant mortality has decreased.

    Though I’m not a doctor, I’m well aware of the risk factors for many fatal diseases, including measles. By far, the largest risk factor for measles is being unvaccinated. Vitamin A deficiency is another risk factor, but not a significant one here in the U.S.

  • You know that you are only trying to distract from the real and more important issues in this article. Lets take a look at the trash that you posted with.

    [N Am J Med Sci. 2012 Nov; 4(11): 608–610.

    Circumcision is a relatively safe procedure with a low rate of complication which ranges from 0.19%-3.1%.[1] The majority of complications are minor and treatable.[2] However, circumcision- related deaths have been reported in some patients as an extremely rare occurrence.[3–6] In Iran, circumcision is a ritual that is mandatory for all Muslim boys. Hence, according to male birth records in the whole country, about 500,000 neonatal circumcisions were performed in Iran in 2011.[7] However, no epidemiological study has reported prevalence of circumcision-related mortalities in the country … ]

    Right out of the gate that is a KNOWN LOAD OF GARBAGE. And take a look at a bit of reality?

    Infant Circumcision Disasters
    http://www.senslip-europe.com/circumcision—-disasters.html

    Images of Circumcision Complications – Infants
    https://www.yourwholebaby.org/images-of-circumcision-complications-enter/

    Infant Circumcision & When it Goes Completely Wrong
    Infant circumcision often goes catastrophically wrong, with terrible life changing injuries and death.
    http://www.viafin-atlas.com/botched-circumcisions.html

    Horror Stories

    Living with the Effects of Circumcision
    Circumcision Surgery Accidents, Complications, and Atrocities
    http://www.fathermag.com/health/circ/horror/horror.shtml

    Health
    10 Horrifically Botched Circumcisions
    http://listverse.com/2016/05/01/10-horrifically-botched-circumcisions/

    [AIDS Care. Author manuscript; available in PMC 2013 May 24.
    Published online 2012 Mar 28. doi: 10.1080/09540121.2012.661836
    A critical evaluation of arguments opposing male circumcision for HIV prevention in developed countries]

    Circumcision has absolutely no benefit in the prevention of HIV/AIDS, get real; all you are doing is buying into again the sick and false propaganda that you have been fed.

  • Under reporting in regard to vaccine injury and resulting death is equally as much a problem as to determining the real numbers. Then they go as well to the dismal numbers of and as to the the payouts in regard to the federal vaccine court, and again they develop numbers that are entirely misleading.

    February, 2012: The Limits of VAERS

    Underreporting. Because the reports are submitted voluntarily, many patients and doctors do not report vaccine reactions. Different estimates exist for the amount of underreporting and range from a factor of 10 to as much as a factor of 100 (meaning that the true number of vaccine reactions is between 10 and 100 times higher than what is reported to VAERS).

    Read more:
    http://www.medalerts.org/analysis/archives/504

    JULY 18, 2017
    Hiding Vaccine-Related Deaths With Semantic Sleight-of-Hand

    By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

    Vaccine scientists and the public health community cautiously and occasionally will admit that vaccines can cause adverse reactions just like “any other medication or biological product.” Although experts are less willing to openly disclose the fact that adverse reactions can and do include death, one has only to look at reports to the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) to see that mortality is a possible outcome. From 1990 through 2010, for example, VAERS received 1,881 reports of infant deaths following vaccination, representing 4.8% of the adverse events reported for infants over the 20-year period. Moreover, analysts acknowledge that VAERS, as a passive surveillance system, is subject to substantial underreporting. A federal government report from 2010 affirms that VAERS captures only about 1% of vaccine adverse reports.

    Read more:
    https://worldmercuryproject.org/what-we-do/hiding-vaccine-related-deaths-semantic-sleight-hand/

    Electronic Support for Public Health–Vaccine Adverse
    Event Reporting System (ESP:VAERS)

    Abstract
    Purpose: To develop and disseminate HIT evidence and evidence-based tools to improve healthcare decision making through the use of integrated data and knowledge management. Scope: To create a generalizable system to facilitate detection and clinician reporting of vaccine adverse events, in order to improve the safety of national vaccination programs. Methods: Electronic medical records available from all ambulatory care encounters in a large multi-specialty practice were used. Every patient receiving a vaccine was automatically identified, and for the next 30 days, their health care diagnostic codes, laboratory tests, and medication prescriptions were evaluated for values suggestive of an adverse event. Results: Restructuring at CDC and consequent delays in terms of decision making have made it challenging despite best efforts to move forward with discussions regarding the evaluation of ESP:VAERS performance in a randomized trial and comparison of ESP:VAERS performance to existing VAERS and Vaccine Safety Datalink data. However, Preliminary data were collected and analyzed and this initiative has been presented at a number of national symposia.

    Results
    Preliminary data were collected from June 2006 through October 2009 on 715,000 patients, and 1.4 million doses (of 45 different vaccines) were given to 376,452 individuals. Of these
    doses, 35,570 possible reactions (2.6 percent of vaccinations) were identified. This is an average of 890 possible events, an average of 1.3 events per clinician, per month. These data were
    presented at the 2009 AMIA conference.

    In addition, ESP:VAERS investigators participated on a panel to explore the perspective of clinicians, electronic health record (EHR) vendors, the pharmaceutical industry, and the FDA towards systems that use proactive, automated adverse event reporting.

    Adverse events from drugs and vaccines are common, but underreported. Although 25% of ambulatory patients experience an adverse drug event, less than 0.3% of all adverse drug events and 1-13% of serious events are reported to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Likewise, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported. Low reporting rates preclude or slow the identification of “problem” drugs and vaccines that endanger public health. New surveillance methods for drug and vaccine adverse effects are needed. Barriers to reporting include a lack of clinician awareness, uncertainty about when and what to report, as well as the burdens of reporting: reporting is not part of clinicians’ usual workflow, takes time, and is duplicative. Proactive, spontaneous, automated adverse event reporting imbedded within EHRs and other information systems has the potential to speed the identification of problems with new drugs and more careful quantification of the risks of older drugs.

    Unfortunately, there was never an opportunity to perform system performance assessments because the necessary CDC contacts were no longer available and the CDC consultants
    responsible for receiving data were no longer responsive to our multiple requests to proceed with testing and evaluation.

    Read more:
    https://healthit.ahrq.gov/sites/default/files/docs/publication/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-2011.pdf

  • And are you really and actually, that ignorant?

  • I know that, and your point is??? The level of existing evil and sickness within the AAP, and CDC, should literally HAUNT you. Wake up.

  • Again, you are using a HIGHLY BIASED source, (identified below)

    N Am J Med Sci. 2012 Nov; 4(11): 608–610.
    doi: 10.4103/1947-2714.103338
    PMCID: PMC3503386
    Epidemiology of Circumcision-Related Mortality in Iran: A 10-year Survey

    Again, how about some real news??? Wake . . . up!!!!

    South Africa’s botched circumcisions led to surgeons performing the first penis transplant
    https://qz.com/363740/south-africas-botched-circumcisions-led-to-surgeons-performing-the-first-penis-transplant/

  • If modern pharma medicine is so good, then WHY do these horrendous statistics, exist? Can you respond to that? What do doctors actually understand regarding physiologically based health care? They understand nothing but prescribing chemical drugs, period. Their continued education training comes from listening to the drug reps that visit them in attempting to get the doctors to prescribe their drugs and vaccines. Modern medicine is a complete lot of brainwashed, foolish and mislead idiots that do not have even a beginning clue about what real health care is all about. They are not allowed to even think outside that pharma/insurance codes box Just face it.

    MEDICINE KILLS MILLIONS (direct data and statistics)
    http://medicinekillsmillions.com/

    Conventional Medicine is the Leading Cause of Death
    https://draxe.com/conventional-medicine-is-the-leading-cause-of-death/

    PHARMA DEATH CLOCK

    TOTAL DEATHS IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE JANUARY 1, 2000…

    BIG PHARMA’S CHEMICAL WARFARE ON HUMANITY DWARFS THE NUMBER OF VICTIMS KILLED BY ALL WORLD WARS AND ACTS OF TERRORISM COMBINED…

    While drug companies profit billions, people are dying by the millions.

    http://pharmadeathclock.com/

    These 13 Corporations Are “Big Pharma”: Their History, Crimes, and Products
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHSRwhceBxk

    Our Stories
    SSRI Stories is a collection of over 6,000 stories that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals) in which prescription drugs were mentioned and in which the drugs may be linked to a variety of adverse outcomes including violence.

    https://ssristories.org/

    Western Medicine is Rockefeller Medicine – All The Way
    http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/western-medicine-rockefeller-medicine/

    Benjamin Rush
    U.S. Founding Father, Signer of The Declaration of Independence
    (1746-1813)

    Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of Men and deny equal privileges to others; the Constitution of the Republic should make a Special privilege for medical freedoms as well as religious freedom.

    http://www.all-creatures.org/quotes/rush_benjamin.html

    Generation SICK: The Power, Politics and Propaganda Behind America’s Health Crisis Paperback – January 10, 2016
    by Dr. Vic Naumov (Author)
    https://www.amazon.com/Generation-SICK-Politics-Propaganda-Americas/dp/0996960406

    Pharmacopoeia …the sorceries of Babylon
    https://discernthetime.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/pharmaceuticals-the-sorceries-of-babylon/

    PHARMACEUTICALS – THE SORCERIES OF BABYLON
    http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/2014/01/pharmaceuticals-sorceries-of-babylon.html

    Pharmakeia (aka sorceries) of Babylon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L-qSVqg37E

    The Lucifarian … Attack.

    King James Bible
    And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. http://biblehub.com/revelation/18-23.htm

    King James Bible
    And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

    Revelation 18: 23, “By Thy Sorceries Were All Nations Deceived.”
    https://www.christianforums.com/threads/on-revelation-18-23-by-thy-sorceries-were-all-nations-deceived.7728322/

  • 1. Baboon Study Reveals New Shortcoming of Pertussis Vaccine
    The shortcomings of the whooping cough vaccine may help explain the disease’s resurgence
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/baboon-study-reveals-new-shortcoming-of-pertussis-vaccine/

    Acellular pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a nonhuman primate model
    http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/11/20/1314688110.abstract

    Nonhuman Primate Model of Pertussis

    Our results demonstrate that the baboon provides an excellent model of clinical pertussis that will allow researchers to investigate pertussis pathogenesis and disease progression, evaluate currently licensed vaccines, and develop improved vaccines and therapeutics.

    http://iai.asm.org/content/80/4/1530.full​

    Pertussis Vaccine Study Shatters Illusion of Vaccine-Induced Immunity
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/12/10/whooping-cough-pertussis-vaccine.aspx

    Rapid Increase in Pertactin-deficient Bordetella pertussis Isolates, Australia

    Abstract
    Acellular vaccines against Bordetella pertussis were introduced in Australia in 1997. By 2000, these vaccines had replaced whole-cell vaccines. During 2008–2012, a large outbreak of pertussis occurred. During this period, 30% (96/320) of B. pertussis isolates did not express the vaccine antigen pertactin (prn). Multiple mechanisms of prn inactivation were documented, including IS481 and IS1002 disruptions, a variation within a homopolymeric tract, and deletion of the prn gene. The mechanism of lack of expression of prn in 16 (17%) isolates could not be determined at the sequence level. These findings suggest that B. pertussis not expressing prn arose independently multiple times since 2008, rather than by expansion of a single prn-negative clone. All but 1 isolate had ptxA1, prn2, and ptxP3, the alleles representative of currently circulating strains in Australia.This pattern is consistent with continuing evolution of B. pertussis in response to vaccine selection pressure.

    http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/20/4/13-1478_article.htm

    Arch Dis Child. Aug 2003; 88(8): 684–687.
    doi: 10.1136/adc.88.8.684
    PMCID: PMC1719607
    Clinical and epidemiological picture of B pertussis and B parapertussis infections after introduction of acellular pertussis vaccines

    Results: There were 180 Bordetella infections; 116 (64%) were caused by B pertussis and 64 (36%) by B parapertussis. Incidence rates were 4.8 and 2.8 per 1000 person-years, respectively. Paroxysmal cough, post-tussive whooping, and vomiting ≥21 days was found in 53%, 22%, and 8% of all B pertussis cases and in 22%, 5%, and 0% of all B parapertussis cases, respectively. A total of 81/116 (70%) B pertussis cases and 56/64 (87.5%) B parapertussis cases had received at least one dose of pertussis vaccine. Typical pertussis with paroxysmal cough ≥21 days was present in 29/35 (83%) unvaccinated B pertussis cases, in contrast to 33/81 (41%) vaccinated B pertussis cases.

    Conclusion: Following the increase of pertussis vaccination coverage, we observed a relative increase of B parapertussis cases in comparison to B pertussis cases. In vaccinated children B pertussis disease frequently presented as a mild disease, clinically difficult to distinguish from diseases associated with coughing caused by B parapertussis and other viral or bacterial infections.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1719607/

    Global Population Structure and Evolution of Bordetella pertussis and Their Relationship with Vaccination

    Abstract excerpt: We observed that changes in genes encoding proteins implicated in protective immunity that are included in ACVs occurred after the introduction of WCVs but before the switch to ACVs. Furthermore, our analyses consistently suggested that virulence-associated genes and genes coding for surface-exposed proteins were involved in adaptation. However, many of the putative adaptive loci identified have a physiological role, and further studies of these loci may reveal less obvious ways in which B. pertussis and the host interact. This work provides insight into ways in which pathogens may adapt to vaccination and suggests ways to improve pertussis vaccines.

    IMPORTANCE Whooping cough is mainly caused by Bordetella pertussis, and current vaccines are targeted against this organism. Recently, there have been increasing outbreaks of whooping cough, even where vaccine coverage is high. Analysis of the genomes of 343 B. pertussis isolates from around the world over the last 100 years suggests that the organism has emerged within the last 500 years, consistent with historical records. We show that global transmission of new strains is very rapid and that the worldwide population of B. pertussis is evolving in response to vaccine introduction, potentially enabling vaccine escape.

    Read more:
    http://mbio.asm.org/content/5/2/e01074-14

    This means that pertussis vaccination has caused the pertussis bacteria to mutate and develop and the new whooping cough is now more lethal than the natural one because the mutated pertussis generates more toxins.

    2013 Provisional Pertussis Surveillance Report
    ​2,570 listed cases of acquiring pertussis after 3 plus doses of B pertussis vaccine. Another 343 cases after 1 to 2 doses of vaccine.
    http://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/downloads/pertussis-surveillance-report.pdf

    More Proof That the “Vaccine Pusher” Crowd Can’t Think Critically….(a well referenced article, regarding the said outbreaks in the vaccinated)
    http://www.modernalternativemama.com/blog/2014/01/23/more-proof-that-the-vaccine-pusher-crowd-cant-think-critically/#.U5ZoRfldXbY

    Acellular pertussis vaccination enhances B. parapertussis colonization, (B parapertussis is of course not in the current vaccine)

    An acellular whooping cough vaccine actually enhances the colonization of Bordetella parapertussis in mice; pointing towards a rise in B. parapertussis incidence resulting from acellular vaccination, which may have contributed to the observed increase in whooping cough over the last decade.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20200027

    http://www.cidd.psu.edu/research/synopses/acellular-vaccine-enhancement-b.-parapertussis

    So, instead of admitting that this vaccine has failed, the CDC instead recommends vaccinating all pregnant women, and family members who have not been vaccinated. Just take a look at the irresponsible and reckless nature of that practice of vaccinating a pregnant woman for pertussis.

    Warning to Pregnant Mothers – Toxic Dose of Aluminum in the Tdap, by pediatrician, Paul Thomas. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoY6vXEMsU8

    Vaccines Are Causing Mutations That May Jeopardize The Health of Future Generations

    Vaccines are causing an unprecedented number of mutations creating superbugs and potent viruses and bacteria that may eventually threaten future generations and humanity itself. Evidence continues to mount from the scientific community who now admit that certain vaccines are in-fact causing both viral and bacterial mutations. Ironically, the same researchers assert that “better” vaccines are needed to offset the rise in persistent mutations.
    http://preventdisease.com/news/12/071712_Vaccines-Are-Causing-Mutations-That-May-Jeopardize-The-Health-of-Future-Generations.shtml

    2. The page you’re looking for isn’t available.

  • No benefits in vitamins???? Really? Obviously you have not even been aware of the last 70 years of knowledge evolution because it was all hidden and forgotten. When is your next meeting with the big pharma rep?

    Vitamin C is antiviral. The encapsulated form has been shown to produce levels of vitamin C that are comparable the IV form of vitamin C, (of course which now shunned the use of that by the FDA, and instead toxic vaccines are the only option in their world).

    Klenner/Jungeblut/Kalokerinos. The vitamin C cure for diseases, SIDS, and falsely accused shaken baby syndrome, after vaccines.

    High doses of vitamin C, and better yet intravenous or encapsulated vitamin C cured polio during the past and historical experience with polio. You CAN cure polio.

    Vitamin C and Polio
    The Forgotten Research of Claus W. Jungeblut, M.D.
    http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v09n16.shtml

    Was the cure for Polio buried to profit from dangerous Rockefeller vaccines?
    http://newstarget.com/2016-10-05-was-the-cure-for-polio-buried-to-profit-from-dangerous-rockefeller-vaccines.html

    J Exp Med. 1939 Aug 31; 70(3): 315–332.
    PMCID: PMC2133810
    A FURTHER CONTRIBUTION TO VITAMIN C THERAPY IN EXPERIMENTAL POLIOMYELITIS
    Claus W. Jungeblut
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2133810/

    A FURTHER CONTRIBUTION TO VITAMIN C THERAPY IN
    EXPERIMENTAL POLIOMYELITIS* (full study)
    BY CLAUS W, JUNGEBLUT, M.D.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2133810/pdf/315.pdf

    High-dose Intravenous Vitamin C as a Successful Treatment of Viral Infections
    https://riordanclinic.org/2014/02/high-dose-intravenous-vitamin-c-as-a-successful-treatment-of-viral-infections/

    POLIO CURE, 1949

    The cure of polio was published by Fred Klenner, M.D. in a peer reviewed medical journal in 1949. (click here for paper). There has never been an article describing the use of massive doses of vitamin C in the doses prescribed by Klenner which has denied this cure. I suppose it was such a part of the medical religion that polio could not be cured that many ignored this cure. But I am also sure that there were some familiar with these treatments that knew that massive doses of ascorbate worked that figured that ignoring this cure would just paralyze a few children but that if this cure was widely know it would be a tremendous loss to the drug industry and most importantly, the loss of their jobs.

    Read more:
    http://vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/polioep.htm

    Don’t overlook the health dangers of a magnesium deficiency – here’s why: http://www.naturalhealth365.com/magnesium-deficiency-2222.html

    In addition, as you may know, sepsis, a life-threatening infection, is (at best) poorly managed by Western medicine. But, a few forward-thinking doctors appreciate the power of natural remedies and found a way to literally save thousands of lives per year.

    Discover a wonderful protocol that neutralizes the threat of sepsis – safely and quickly: http://www.naturalhealth365.com/vitamin-c-sepsis-2246.html

    And, finally, here’s a completely natural way to boost immunity and greatly improve your ability to detoxify the body – which includes the 3 best nutritional supplements to take: http://www.naturalhealth365.com/stress-detoxification-immunity-1727.html

    The Treatment of Poliomyelitis and Other Virus Diseases with Vitamin C
    Fred R. Klenner, M.D., Reidsville, North Carolina
    http://vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/polio.htm

    An historical compendium of 20th-Century medical & scientific literature attesting to the efficacy of Ascorbate
    (Ascorbic Acid, Cevitamic Acid, Sodium Ascorbate etc. a.k.a. “Vitamin C”) in the treatment and prevention of human and animal illnesses and diseases.
    http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/

    Massive Doses of Vitamin C and the Virus Diseases
    Fred R. Klenner, M.D., Reidsville, North Carolina
    http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/195x/klenner-fr-southern_med_surg-1951-v103-n4-p101.htm

    J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1999 Oct;22(8):530-3.
    The effectiveness of vitamin C in preventing and relieving the symptoms of virus-induced respiratory infections.
    Gorton HC, Jarvis K.

    Abstract
    BACKGROUND:
    An ever increasing demand to evaluate the effect of dietary supplements on specific health conditions by use of a “significant scientific” standard has prompted the publication of this study.
    OBJECTIVE:
    To study the effect of megadose Vitamin C in preventing and relieving cold and flu symptoms in a test group compared with a control group.
    DESIGN:
    Prospective, controlled study of students in a technical training facility.
    SUBJECTS:
    A total of 463 students ranging in age from 18 to 32 years made up the control group. A total of 252 students ranging in age from 18 to 30 years made up the experimental or test group.
    METHOD:
    Investigators tracked the number of reports of cold and flu symptoms among the 1991 test population of the facility compared with the reports of like symptoms among the 1990 control population. Those in the control population reporting symptoms were treated with pain relievers and decongestants, whereas those in the test population reporting symptoms were treated with hourly doses of 1000 mg of Vitamin C for the first 6 hours and then 3 times daily thereafter. Those not reporting symptoms in the test group were also administered 1000-mg doses 3 times daily.
    RESULTS:
    Overall, reported flu and cold symptoms in the test group decreased 85% compared with the control group after the administration of megadose Vitamin C.
    CONCLUSION:
    Vitamin C in megadoses administered before or after the appearance of cold and flu symptoms relieved and prevented the symptoms in the test population compared with the control group.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10543583

    VITAMIN C HAS BEEN KNOWN TO FIGHT 30 MAJOR DISEASES … FOR OVER 50 YEARS
    http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v02n02.shtml

    HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT: The Pioneering Work of
    FREDERICK ROBERT KLENNER, M.D.
    http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerbio.html

    The Treatment of Poliomyelitis and Other Virus Diseases with Vitamin C
    Fred R. Klenner, M.D., Reidsville, North Carolina
    http://www.nutri.com/49/

    Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, August 7, 2013
    Vitamin C and Polio – The Forgotten Research of Claus W. Jungeblut, M.D.
    http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v09n16.shtml

    Vitamin C and polio
    http://www.sott.net/article/264766-Vitamin-C-and-polio

    Curing the Incurable: Vitamin C, Infectious Diseases and Toxins
    by Dr. Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD
    https://the-moneychanger.com/articles/curing_the_incurable

    The Origin of the 42-Year Stonewall of Vitamin C
    https://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/199x/landwehr-r-j_orthomol_med-1991-v6-n2-p99.htm
    http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1991/pdf/1991-v06n02-p099.pdf

    Vitamin C May Be A Life-Saver
    Mega-doses Can Counter Avian Flu, Hepatitis &
    Herpes, And Control Advance Of AIDS
    http://www.rense.com/general64/co.htm

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    Tissue Scurvy Misdiagnosed as Shaken Baby Syndrome Homicide
    Michael D. Innis, Tissue Scurvy Misdiagnosed as Shaken Baby Syndrome Homicide, Clinical Medicine Research. Vol. 3, No. 1, 2014, pp. 6-8. doi: 10.11648/j.cmr.20140301.12

    Abstract
    “Tissue Scurvy” is an autoimmune disorder in which there is an abundance of Vitamin C in the body(unlike the Seafarer Scurvy of yesteryear) but it is inhibited from entering the tissue cells to perform its functions of maintaining the integrity of the blood vessels and skeletal tissue and partaking in several enzymatic reactions because of the lack of insulin which is essential for the transfer of Vitamin C into the cell. The result is the development of fractures, hemorrhages and other lesions of Scurvy. Here it is shown a child alleged to have been murdered by being shaken to death was found to have hyperglycemia, implying insulin deficiency and concomitant Tissue Scurvy. It is concluded that the diagnosis Shaken Baby Syndrome, and all examples of unexplained fractures, bruises, retinal and subdural hemorrhages with encephalopathy – the so-called “TRIAD” – are in fact an autoimmune disorder following antigenic stimulation in a genetically susceptible child. Vaccines administered within 4 weeks of the onset of symptoms are the most common cause. The Shaken Baby Syndrome is a fabricated diagnosis and has no place in medical jurisprudence.

    http://www.sciencepublishinggroup.com/journal/paperinfo.aspx?journalid=151&doi=10.11648/j.cmr.20140301.12

    Tissue Scurvy Misdiagnosed as Shaken Baby Syndrome Homicide

    Full text: Excerpts

    2. Case History

    The child was born on the 9th May 2011 by normal
    vaginal delivery following a 41 week gestation period. Her
    Apgar scores were 9 at 1 minute and 10 at 5 minutes and
    she weighed 3.3kg. She was given an injection of Vitamin
    K.

    She was seen by the Health Visitor on 20th May 2011and
    was found to have an infected finger which healed by the
    next visit on 31st May 2011. Her weight was 3310 gm
    On 3rd June 2011 she had an episode of difficulty in
    breathing and was examined in Accident and Emergency
    and the mother given advice but no form of medicinal
    therapy was administered. She received the first primary
    immunization of childhood on 8th July 2011.

    In January 2012 she developed an ear infection and on
    26th March 2012 a bruise was noticed on the tip of the
    pinna of one ear. No Laboratory Investigations were done.
    She was vaccinated with the MMR, Hib and
    Meningococcal C vaccines on the 23rd May 2012 and a
    week later, on 1st June 2012, she was taken to the Boston
    Pilgrim Hospital where a Consultant Pediatrician found a
    5cm X 5cm boggy bruise on her head, subconjunctival
    hemorrhages in the left eye and what was thought to be a
    “human bite mark” on the posterior aspect of the left leg.
    No neurological lesions were seen and there were no retinal
    hemorrhages.

    Social workers and Police were informed and after a
    short stay in the home of the grandparents she was returned
    to her family and visited by her Health Visitor on the 26th
    July 2012 who found no concerns. There is no record of
    any coagulation studies having been done inspite of the fact
    that a cephalo-hematoma (boggy swelling on the head) is a
    “herald lesion” anticipating the onset of a
    catastrophichemorrhagic disaster [4].

    3. Post-Mortem Examination
    The essential lesions were swelling of the brain, retinal
    hemorrhages and detachment in both eyes. No external
    injuries were found

    The brain and spinal cord was said to show evidence of
    old and recent injury. The old injury was represented by the
    presence of a subdural hematoma over the brain and spinal
    cord of several weeks to months’ duration and bilateral
    contusions in the parasagittal region of the posterior frontal
    lobe with some histological appearances consistent with
    several days to weeks’ duration.

    The recent head injury, it was claimed, was demonstrated
    by the presence of a recent hematoma over the brain and
    spinal cord with localized axonal injury to the cortico-spinal
    tracts of medulla and axonal injury to the spinal nerve roots.
    There was generalized ischemia in the brain involving
    cortex white matter, deep grey matter, cerebellum,
    hypocampus and spinal cord.

    The cause of death was attributed to “Shaken Baby
    Syndrome”. The care giver was arrested, charged with
    murder, tried, convicted and imprisoned.

    4. Discussion
    Both Dr Archie Kalokerinos [6] and Professor Alan
    Clemetson [7] realized many years ago that what doctors
    were calling Shaken Baby Syndrome was in fact a
    manifestation of Infantile Scurvy. As stated above Dr
    Kalokerinos records his court encounter with a prosecutor
    at the trial of a mother accused of murder who claimed
    “Scurvy does not exist anymore” to which he replied. “yes
    it does but now you call it Shaken Baby Syndrome”.
    Relevant to the child’s illness on June 2nd 2012is the fact
    that she was vaccinated with the MMR, Hib and
    Meningococcal C vaccines on the 23rd May 2012and a
    week later, on 1st June 2012 she was taken to the Boston
    Pilgrim Hospital where a Consultant Pediatrician found a
    5cm X 5cm boggy bruise on her head, subconjunctival
    hemorrhages in the left eye and what was thought to be a
    human bite mark on the posterior aspect of left leg.
    Coagulation studies were done and showed APTT
    39.6.seconds, Prothrombin Time 15.0 seconds and Platelet
    count 697 x 109/L.

    These results are decidedly abnormal
    when compared with the Normal ranges of the Children’s
    Hospital at Great Ormond Street and they indicate the child
    has a Coagulation Disorder which would explain the
    hemorrhages and the “human bite”.

    Liver Function Test results, which are invariably abnormal
    in this condition were not done or if done have not been sent
    to me. With regard to treatment an immediate IM injection of
    Vitamin K and an IV injection of Vitamin C would have
    possibly reversed the process when the child presented at the
    Princess of Wales Hospital but it appears no such treatment
    was given in spite of the fact that the coagulation studies
    clearly indicated the need for such action.

    The observation of two hematomas of different ages at
    the post-mortem can be explained by the fact that on March
    26th2012 a bruise was noticed on the tip of the pinna of one
    ear. This lesion is often the result of a nutritional deficiency
    of Vitamin C and it is highly probable that the earlier
    hematoma was another manifestation of the same process –
    Tissue Scurvy. This would also explain the radiological
    findings. No Laboratory Investigations were done when the
    bruise was noticed which is very unusual and an
    opportunity to treat the disorder was missed.
    The suggestion that “the most likely explanation of the
    child’s presentation is likely to have involved shaking” is a
    view which has been debunked. Nowhere in the enormous
    amount of literature on the subject of the Shaken Baby
    Syndrome [8-18] have the authors explained how shaking
    an infant can raise the level of the blood sugar or cause
    glucose to appear in the urine

    These are not changes produced by shaking the child,
    they are proved to be the result of an Autoimmune Reaction
    following vaccination of a genetically susceptible child.
    The results of tests for Liver Function have not been
    provided in the material sent to me. Truth withheld is
    Justice denied. These results will undoubtedly be abnormal
    because the Prothrombin Time of 15 seconds is outside the
    normal upper limit of 14.1 reported by Great Ormond
    Street Hospital. An APTT of 39.6 seconds is also evidence
    of a defective coagulation mechanism accounting for all the
    child’s problems.

    5. Conclusion
    The accusation of Shaken Baby Syndrome is a misdiagnosis. The evidence proves an Autoimmune Reaction to vaccines administered on 23rd May 2012 was the cause of death. The diagnosis Shaken Baby Syndrome was suggested by a neurosurgeon without the slightest scientific evidence to support it and an innocent carer is in prison accused of Murder.

    The remedy lies in educating doctors to recognize Tissue Scurvy

    http://article.sciencepublishinggroup.com/pdf/10.11648.j.cmr.20140301.12.pdf

    Clinical Medicine Research
    Vol. 3, No. 1, 2014, pp. 6-8. doi: 10.11648/j.cmr.20140301.12

    Tissue scurvy misdiagnosed as shaken baby syndrome
    homicide – Michael D. Innis, Retired Haematologist Princess Alexandra Hospital Brisbane Australia

    Abstract: “Tissue Scurvy” is an autoimmune disorder in which there is an abundance of Vitamin C in the body(unlike the Seafarer Scurvy of yesteryear) but it is inhibited from entering the tissue cells to perform its functions of maintaining the integrity of the blood vessels and skeletal tissue and partaking in several enzymatic reactions because of the lack of insulin which is essential for the transfer of Vitamin C into the cell. The result is the development of fractures, hemorrhages and other lesions of Scurvy. Here it is shown a child alleged to have been murdered by being shaken to death was found to have hyperglycemia, implying insulin deficiency and concomitant Tissue Scurvy. It is concluded that the diagnosis Shaken Baby Syndrome, and all examples of unexplained fractures, bruises, retinal and subdural hemorrhages with encephalopathy – the so-called “TRIAD” – are in fact an autoimmune disorder following antigenic stimulation in a genetically susceptible child. Vaccines administered within 4 weeks of the onset of symptoms are the most common cause. The Shaken Baby Syndrome is a fabricated diagnosis and has no place in medical jurisprudence.

    http://jeffreydachmd.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Tissue-scurvy-misdiagnosed-as-shaken-baby-syndrome-Michael-Innis-2014.pdf

    Journal source:
    http://www.sciencepublishinggroup.com/journal/paperinfo.aspx?journalid=151&doi=10.11648/j.cmr.20140301.12

    Shaken Baby Syndrome Imprisonment by Misdiagnosis
    Jeffrey Dach MD (Referenced as well to other good articles and studies)
    http://jeffreydachmd.com/2015/06/shaken-baby-syndrome-imprisonment-by-misdiagnosis/

    Vaccines, Apparent Life-Threatening Events,
    Barlow’s Disease, and Questions about
    “Shaken Baby Syndrome” Michael D. Innis
    http://www.jpands.org/vol11no1/innis.pdf

    Every Second Child Paperback – September, 1981
    by Archie Kalokerinos (Author)
    http://www.amazon.com/Every-Second-Child-Archie-Kalokerinos/dp/0879832509

    AN INTERVIEW WITH DR. ARCHIE KALOKERINOS MD
    http://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/an-interview-with-dr-archie-kalokerinos-md/

    The Answer to Crib Death
    “Sudden Infant Death Syndrome” (SIDS)
    Joseph G. Hattersley 1
    http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/199x/hattersley-jg-j_orthomol_med-1993-v8-n4-p229.htm

    Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS): Major Causes are Known but Ignored
    http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/sudden-infant-death-syndrome-sids-major-causes-are-known-but-ignored/

    Acta Paediatr. 2009 Nov; 98(11): 1768–1775.
    doi: 10.1111/j.1651-2227.2009.01476.x
    PMCID: PMC2773533
    Cholinergic and oxidative stress mechanisms in sudden infant death syndrome

    Lower AChE levels and higher combined levels of iron and vitamin C in the first 6 months of life may augment cholinergic and oxidative stress effect, particularly at the age when SIDS is most prevalent. This may contribute to risk of ALTE and SIDS/SUDI events during infancy.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2773533/

    Vaccines are NOT the cause of SIDS…except when the federal government says they are and compensates parents accordingly (this is a ruling from last month, July 2017):

    “After carefully analyzing and weighing all of the evidence and testimony presented in this case in accordance with the applicable legal standards, the undersigned finds that petitioners have met their legal burden. Petitioners have put forth preponderant evidence that the vaccines J.B. received on September 2, 2011 actually caused or substantially contributed to his death from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. Furthermore, respondent has failed to put forth preponderant evidence that J.B.’s death was in fact caused by factors unrelated to the vaccines. Accordingly, petitioners are entitled to compensation.”

    https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2013vv0611-73-0

    Eradicate Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) Now!
    http://www.healthy-again.net/sids.htm

    Sudden Infant Death Syndrome and The Vitamin C Connection

    In 1774, it was discovered that sudden infant death syndrome, which is closely linked to acute infantile scurvy, is preventable in nearly all cases. Dr. James Lind, a Scottish physician of the British Navy, conducted experiments concluding that citrus fruits cured scurvy. He wrote the following about scurvy (vitamin C deficiency):

    “Persons that appear to be but slightly scorbutic are apt to be suddenly and unexpectedly seized with some of its worst symptoms. Their dropping down dead upon an exertion of their strength or change of air is not easily foretold.”

    The resemblance between these symptoms and S.I.D.S. is not merely coincidental. While the name, sudden infant death syndrome is relatively new; this identifiable pattern of sudden death has been around for a long time, and the methods of preventing it were known centuries ago.

    Dr. Archie Kalokerinos volunteered to undertake the mission of reducing the rate of S.I.D.S. amongst aboriginal people in the opal mining region of Australia. At the time, approximately 50% of all aboriginal infants died of sudden infant death syndrome. He found that almost all of them were terribly deficient in vitamin C, so he provided them with supplementation. None of the infants died from S.I.D.S following the supplementation.

    Read more:
    http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/161-sudden-infant-death-syndrome-and-the-vitamin-c-connection.html

    Published: March 20, 2015
    Shaken science
    A disputed diagnosis imprisons parents
    Prosecutors build murder cases on disputed Shaken Baby Syndrome diagnosis
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/shaken-baby-syndrome/

    And how many falsely accused parents and caregivers, do we yet need to get out of prisons?

    March 23, 2015
    When babies die, a disputed diagnosis sends parents to prison for abuse

    For decades, when a child appeared in an emergency room with certain symptoms, including bleeding behind the eyes and bleeding around the brain, many doctors assumed violent shaking to be the cause. But in recent years, the Shaken Baby Syndrome diagnosis has come under intense scrutiny, and so have many of the resulting prosecutions and convictions. Special correspondent Jackie Judd reports.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/babies-die-disputed-diagnosis-sends-parents-prison-abuse/

    Shaking: “A False and Flawed Premise” (Lots of info here)
    http://onsbs.com/2015/02/09/shaking-a-false-and-flawed-premise/

    Child Abuse or Rickets?
    A Special Interview with Dr. David Ayoub
    By Dr. Joseph Mercola
    http://jeffreydachmd.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Child-Abuse-or-Rickets-Interview-David-Ayoub.pdf

    New Film Exposes Shaken Baby Syndrome Myth – Opponents Want to Silence it at Film Festivals
    http://medicalkidnap.com/2015/03/11/new-film-exposes-shaken-baby-syndrome-myth-opponents-want-to-silence-it-at-film-festivals/

    THE SYNDROME
    a feature investigative documentary
    http://thesyndromefilm.com/

    May 28, 2015
    Mainstream Media Finally Exposing Shaken Baby Syndrome as False Diagnosis – How Many Innocent Parents Have Suffered?
    http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/mainstream-media-finally-exposing-shaken-baby-syndrome-as-false-diagnosis-how-many-innocent-parents-have-suffered/

    Is Shaken Baby Syndrome Often Misdiagnosed and Caused by Vaccine-Induced Rickets? http://medicalkidnap.com/2015/01/06/is-shaken-baby-syndrome-often-misdiagnosed-and-caused-by-vaccine-induced-rickets/

    Many Experts Have Discredited Shaken Baby Syndrome. So Why Is Maria Mendez Still in Prison?
    http://www.laweekly.com/news/many-experts-have-discredited-shaken-baby-syndrome-so-why-is-maria-mendez-still-in-prison-4137146

    At least half of all parents tried over shaken baby syndrome have been wrongly convicted, expert warns
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1382290/At-half-parents-tried-shaken-baby-syndrome-wrongly-convicted-expert-warns.html

    New Study Shows US Prosecution “Hot Spots” of Parents Gaoled for Battered Babies They Did Not Batter Shake or Injure: New Paper “Autoimmune Tissue Scurvy Misdiagnosed as Child Abuse”
    https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/new-study-shows-us-prosecution-hot-spots-of-parents-gaoled-for-battered-babies-they-did-not-batter-shake-or-injure-new-paper-autoimmune-tissue-scurvy-misdiagnosed-as-child-abuse/

    Conversations With Dr. A. Norman Guthkelch
    Dr. Norman Guthkelch, October 2012

    Retired pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. A. Norman Guthkelch was the first person to propose in print, in the British Medical Journal in 1971, that shaking an infant could cause subdural hematoma. He is now trying to straighten out what he considers a “horrifying” misinterpretation of his work in court.

    Read more:
    http://onsbs.com/2014/08/20/conversations-with-dr-a-norman-guthkelch/

    The evidence base for shaken baby syndrome
    We need to question the diagnostic criteria
    J F Geddes, retired (formerly reader in clinical neuropathology, Queen Mary, University of London)
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC381308/

    SIDS Listed As Adverse Reaction on DTaP Vaccine Insert plus others
    http://vaccinecommonsense.com/2016/02/04/sids-listed-as-adverse-reaction-on-dtap-vaccine-insert/

    Shaken Baby Syndrome:

    Vaccine Cover Up
    That Can Land You in Jail
    Ground Breaking Information You Need
    To Keep Your Family Safe!

    http://drrimatruthreports.com/sbs_webinar.html

  • Are you AWARE of how devitalized processed food is today? Do you even visit a grocery store and read the labels? Do you see the list of chemicals and substances that have no food value? Give me your best explanation regarding what physiologically based health care means, to you? You don’t have a clue, and I am telling you that you don’t; so prove me wrong.

  • So are you saying that it is not possible for a baby to have a botched or even a normal circumcision and to lose to much blood? Are you saying that is not a risk factor? Why do you stand in such egotistical and stubborn denial? Keep standing in your rose garden and with your rose colored glasses on, and in the belief that the medical establishment can literally do no harm and no wrong. So if you believe that the story above is just some lie or mislead version of what directly took place, then in your denial what in the alternative do you suggest that the child died of? Just another coincidence again, ehh? As always.

  • Kevin Williams

    You may assume anything you like, but unless you can support it with data, facts, or research, I am under no obligation to accept your assumptions.

    Even though your citation is basically a press release from a company with a vested interest in a new reporting system, I will accept that many drug adverse events are not reported. That’s because the vast majority of adverse events simply are not serious enough to be worth reporting.

    However, adverse drug reactions are entirely different than adverse outcomes from surgical procedures. Consequently I reject your assumption that we can extend the 10% estimate for reporting drug averse events to adverse outcomes for surgical procedures. Adverse outcomes from surgical procedures are subject to review boards whereas a tummy ache from an antibiotic is not.

  • Kevin Williams

    Highly biased against what, exactly? Unfounded assumptions that have been proven to be wrong? Please feel free to point out any errors in the study.

    Your other link is a story about Africans who go into the bush to have circumcisions performed with no anesthesia in unsterile conditions by ‘traditional surgeons’ without medical training. It bears absolutely no relationship to a medical procedure performed under sterile conditions by highly trained medical professionals.

    You need to do a better job of understanding what your links actually say before you use them to support your arguments.

  • Kevin Williams

    Nice Gish Gallop there. What I said was that evidence shows that vitamin supplements have no impact on life expectancy. And since polio no longer plays any significant role in U.S. life expectancy, your copy-paste has no bearing on my assertion and the studies supporting it.

    And by the way, your Dr. Jungeblut was not nearly so sure that vitamin C cured polio as you are. Quoting from his 1939 paper, “with an infection of maximum severity, induced by flooding the nasal
    portal of entry with large amounts of virus, vitamin C administration
    fails to exert any demonstrable influence on the course of the disease,
    but with a less forceful method of droplet instillation, the picture of
    the disease in control animals becomes so variable that the results
    cannot be easily interpreted.”

    And regarding Linus Pauling:

    Professor Paul Knipschild has described how Nobel prize winning
    biochemist Linus Pauling used selective quotes from the medical
    literature to “prove” his theory that vitamin C helps you live longer
    and feel better. When Knipschild and his colleagues searched the literature systematically
    for evidence for and against this hypothesis they found that, although
    one or two trials did strongly suggest that vitamin C could prevent the
    onset of the common cold, there were far more studies which did not show
    any beneficial effect.
    http://www.bmj.com/content/315/7109/672.full?sid=996970d3-981d-497d-9556-a268b72a24ba

  • Kevin Williams

    Thanks for helping me make my point. Despite the rapid growth in the availability of “devitalized processed food” life expectancy in the U.S. has increased by over 10 years since WWII, and the infant mortality rate has decreased by 75%. Since there have been no significant breakthroughs in hygiene or sanitation in the US during those years, and studies show that vitamin supplements do not contribute, it must be something else. Perhaps modern medicine.

    If only we had studies that showed vaccines were safe and effective at preventing disease, and that modern medical treatments are improving expected outcomes, we might be able to believe that. Oh wait, we do have hundreds of such studies.

  • Ron Roy

    I still find it amazing that someone with all that education ( MD ), or should I say miseducation,will voluntarily make themselves look stupid for $$$$$$$.

  • Ron Roy

    Studies financed by drug companies who lose customers every year because people use vitamin mineral supplements instead of their drugs. Yeah right real reliable studies. Even MD’s are now telling their patients to take supplements. My sister and two acquaintances of mine were all told by their doctors to take 10,000 units of vitamin D3 every day.

  • sabelmouse

    people in the usa should call any/all carl wegner md and ask if he’s commenting on here.
    as real as mikey i bet.

  • Kevin Williams

    Do you have any evidence of your own to present? So far all I’ve seen from you is a link to a press release, a couple anecdotes, and unsubstantiated conspiracy theories in a weak attempt to discredit decades of published, peer-reviewed research by highly-trained scientists all over the world, working in their fields of expertise.

    I have never discounted specific vitamin regimens as a therapeutic approach to a particular health issue. Prescribing vitamin D3 is an accepted protocol against osteoporosis.

    Before we get too far afield, let me remind you of my original (well, second anyway) assertion: neither evolution, sanitation, hygiene, multivitamin supplements, nor access to nutritious foods can be credited with extending life expectancy by 10+ years, or for reducing the infant mortality rate by 75% in the U.S. since the end of WWII. I’ve cited research that shows this to be true for the supplements, and pointed out (and supported by Lowell Hubbs) that there is more unhealthy food conveniently available now than ever before.

    I’ve asked for credible alternate explanations other than advances in medical science (including vaccinations) but have not received any yet.

  • Dan Bollinger

    And babies die from circumcision, too. About a hundred every year.

  • They are also relying on the laughable, innumerate screed, also referenced by drmomma, dismantled in this article:
    circumcisionnews(dot)blogspot(dot)com/2010/05/fatally-flawed-bollingers-circumcision(dot)html
    .
    Gee, look what you get when a non-scientist writes a science “research” paper. You get math and logic errors a middle school student would be embarrassed by.

  • Augustina is correct that we do not support vivisection. The first article you reference is actually a repost (prominently marked at the top) from the Thoughtful House in 2009. The second article referenced is the author’s opinion (which we do not censor) and I think you are making a huge assumption based off of a few paragraphs. Just my opinion though.

  • Just to be clear, are you putting the (un)vaccination of the host over the nutritional level of the host from a priority level regarding risk factors?

  • I already did read it. You gave a non-answer to my question.

  • Ron Roy

    ”neither evolution, sanitation, hygiene, multivitamin supplements, nor
    access to nutritious foods can be credited with extending life
    expectancy by 10+ years, or for reducing the infant mortality rate by
    75% in the U.S. since the end of WWII. ” OMG you’ve either been thoroughly brainwashed or being paid to lie.Sure there’s more unhealthy foods than ever but there are also more healthy foods available and people are also taking supplements to try and offset the damage done by those unhealthy foods plus there are more people trying to follow a good diet.

  • You just cited Brian Morris, a known circum-fetishist and propagandist who has been caught setting up phone peer-review cartels, going on circumcision safaris in Africa, and associating with known sex offenders. You have no credibility.

  • Thanks for proving my original point – that there are plenty of arguments “proving” vaccines are bad, AND those “proving” they are good, using “animal models.” So, the other species are deliberately poisoned (and also burned, boiled, suffocated, and tortured in every way imaginable in laboratories (how noble and compassionate of us) – and in THE END, it comes down to “your animal experiments VS. mine.”

    The subject of vivisection is just as propagandized as vaccination. I’m sure you can relate to that, knowing how the truth is concealed, and the lies magnified and broadcast, about vaccinations.

    Vivisection is the reason we have vaccines (both ingredients and “testing”), and it is because we are willing to allow others to be victimized, allegedly for ourselves, that it has backfired on us, time after time. God is not mocked.

    Many years ago, a doctor (A.V. Allen, M.D. and surgeon) wrote an article titled, “Vivisection Is A Busiiness,” and explained in that article very concisely how the sham is marketed. The problem was, he couldn’t get that article printed in any mainstream media (sound familiar?). I saw a good portion of it in a book: “Naked Empress, or The Great Medical Fraud” (which was, and is, also heavily suppressed).

    You can find out more, if you are interested, by looking up “Vivisection or Science, A Choice To Make,” by Dr. Pietro Croce. It has been put online, so you can read it for free. And then there is http://www.PeopleforReason.org, which I believe has copies of “Naked Empress,” and a lot of other information on both vaccinations and vivisection.

  • Posting articles which advance the notion that vivisection is a viable method of proving a point – is SANCTION, and continues endorsement of the belief that it is good.

    So, don’t hide behind the petticoats of “the author’s opinion.”

  • As a matter of fact, I did not see any disclaimer (non support for vivisection) accompanying those articles, but I DID SEE THIS after the second one:

    “According to common and accepted knowledge, no such safety research or studies have been done on the current childhood vaccination regimen, except until the Hewitson ‘monkey business’ that was funded by independent, private money, for which everyone, I think, should be eternally grateful. However, the study had to be shot down since it was not favorable to vaccine makers. Why isn’t someone else duplicating the monkey studies? Are they afraid of becoming another victim of science?”

  • Observer

    It IS a viable method of proving a point, that does not imply that it is a good (moral) way of doing things! The thing being sanctioned is the need for independent science proving the reality of vaccination.

    A study that does not involve vivisection would be a long term study of many unvaccinated and vaccinated people over a long period of time (ideally their lifetime), recording all health information and making a comparison at the end.

    To me such a study is morally and objectively ideal. It can even be done in a passive manner using collected health history and information of populations/demographics (if such data were readily available).

  • No one is hiding behind anything. It comes down to we do not censor the author’s opinion. It is the only article published by VT that mentions the topic. I’m sorry you don’t like the answer.

  • Here is how it works in court, when you’re trying to prove your case based on animal studies. Of course, vaccine makers have sewn up the court issue, by making themselves in charge of the whole shebang, but regarding other products of the pharmaceutical and other industries:

    “They have two defenses that get them off the hook. Either one works: “It was tested safe in animals” and, “You cannot reliably extrapolate the results from animals to humans.” Seem contradictory? They are. But they both work in court of law and the manufacturers of dangerous cosmetics or drugs can walk away with no consequences for maiming or killing consumers.”

  • Kevin Williams

    I quoted two different studies, of which, Brian Morris is listed as an author on only one.

    Do you have any data to dispute the statements published in those studies, or are you simply making an ad hominem attack on one of the authors of one of the studies?

  • Kevin Williams

    Yes, I am, recent history strongly supports this. Outbreaks in both the U.S. and Europe have been concentrated in largely-unvaccinated communities, and the vast majority of those contracting measles have been unvaccinated. Malnourishment has not been reported as a contributing factor in any of these outbreaks.

  • Kevin Williams

    I’ll take your response as a “no, I don’t have any evidence of my own, so I’m relying on conspiracy theories to disregard your scientific research.”

  • Actually, VT published TWO articles, that I have seen and shared (above) where vivisection was the HEADLINER. But here are some others:

    From “The Autism Epidemic and How To Stop It” (Feb. 23, 2017): “There is a strong causal link between the MMR vaccination and autism. Parental reports, court verdicts, animal studies and human research points to this correlation.”

    From “Tdap Shot Pushed on Pregnant Women Despite Fetal Risks” reprinted on VacTruth site, Nov. 2, 2016: “Tdap: Adverse Effects on Pregnant Animals, no Studies in Humans.”

    I’m sure there are others, but that’s beside the point. Printing articles which promote vivisection, even WITH a disclaimer (which there hasn’t been, in any case) gives your readers the clear impression that vivisection is a good thing, and it needs to continue.

    I apologize if I am presenting as contentious. As an activist who became educated about vaccinations via learning about vivisection, it is horrifying to know that people can inflict suffering without any feelings of remorse whatsoever. Circumcision is a classic example of that, in what society allows to be done to babies.

    We already know that vaccines are poison. 200 years of history illustrates it perfectly, and we really didn’t need that many years to catch on.

    Purposely injecting people or other sentient beings with these poisons is outrageous. But I suppose the insanity will continue until we’ve finished engineering our own extinction.

  • Observer

    I am aware that vaccine industry science is a but the “holy” scripture of the vaccine religion at this point and thus subjective interpretations are necessary to maintain conformance to that belief system (and to fight whatever challenges it), and I am aware that the “courts” are severely corrupt with so many (countless) laws on the books it basically amounts to subjectivism.

    Just because the industry speaks out of both sides of its mouth and the courts go along with it all does not mean all studies involving vivisection are without merit (in their findings).

    I think our only disagreement is that you said vactruth sanctions vivisection (which based on the context I believe meant approve of and/or impel to be done), while I did not see such a sentiment expressed in what you quoted. To me the thankfulness was for it being an independent and unique study, and the question posed was but commentary of the inadequacies of that field of research.

  • Observer

    “Foreskin is used to attenuate the vaccine strain”

    This statement peaked my interest a bit as if we look at what it means to attenuate a virus, wikipedia states:

    “The initial virus population is applied to a foreign host. One or more of
    these will possess a mutation that enables it to infect the new host.
    These mutations will spread, as the mutations allow the virus to grow
    well in the new host; the result is a population that is significantly different from the initial population, and thus will not grow well in the original host when it is re-introduced (hence is
    “attenuated”). This process is known as “passage” in which the virus
    becomes so well adapted to the foreign host that it is no longer harmful
    to the vaccinated subject. This makes it easier for the host’s immune system to eliminate the agent and create the immunological memory cells which will likely protect the patient if they are infected with a similar version of the virus in “the wild”.”

    My question is how can foreskin which is HUMAN
    skin be considered a “foreign host”. Logically it is not foreign, it is
    human, therefore the mutations that define the “attenuation” are not
    actually making it less conducive/viable to the human terrain but
    actually more conducive/viable! So how can this be anything other than
    the opposite of attenuation?!

    Can one more knowledgeable about this care to elaborate?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Well your question didn’t make sense. Since you think snippet means an entire article and you described the article as a “meta study” what do you mean by infant mortality? We’re talking about the US death rate from circumcision. Did you read the section titled “Prevalence of adverse events of MC”?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    If you have evidence the child bled to death from a circumcision let’s see it.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    How far did you make it in school my boy?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    If you knew the paper was from Australia you wouldn’t have said it was “from none other than the AAP and the CDC”. Apparently you still don’t understand.
    For the more…advanced people, when looking at research articles online you can click the “author information” tab under the title to learn these kinds of things.

  • Bored Now

    OMG you’ve either been thoroughly brainwashed

    Well someone is, but my money is on you Ron.

    Sure there’s more unhealthy foods than ever but there are also more healthy foods available and people are also taking supplements to try and offset the damage done by those unhealthy foods plus there are more people trying to follow a good diet.

    http://spectrum.diabetesjournals.org/content/diaspect/30/2/67/F1.large.jpg

    So in your opinion with 80% of Americans eating less than the recommended amount of vegetables and fruits. You somehow want to claim that it’s fruit and vegetable intake which is responsible for peoples longevity?

  • Gee, and look at SHILL YOU posting 10 hours ago and without reading a single reply post that was already here, but to mindlessly support your shill buddy, KW.

  • I already seen your reply made to Augustina and I read it the first time you posted it. That is why I made a reply to you, and you failed to answer to what I stated. Do you have any evidence that it did not happen, and exactly as stated? Then what the hell are you arguing about? We are not here to coddle and nor to pas-iffy your major level of obvious denial. Face the facts, circumcision is a sick and GRIZZLY practice that should never be performed on an infant, and nor anyone else unless medically indicated and with full consideration given to and as to not doing more harm than good.

  • The direct statements that coip made obviously have nothing to do with any ad hominem attack. Perhaps you should retract your study put forth by obvious and notorious, perverts. You are dead in the water, and you fail to admit it. Who pays you for the repeated shill garbage that you reply with?

  • Two years past high school in a technical school; and your idiotic point again, is what? Come on “Shillary . . . Einstein”, we all want to hear from you and with more of your foolishness.

  • Hey Karl, apparently it is news to you that the CDC has published epidemiological studies which they have as well been part of and financed, and in multiple countries of the world. You are more than a little behind the times in your understanding of the existing research. Your selections show directly where those studies came from; and I suppose you thought no one would realize that? Have you ever heard of as well the CDC’s, said hiding in Denmark, Poul Thorsen?

    Here are some examples with a complete analysis of the studies, and who paid for them.

    VACCINES AND AUTISM – WHAT DO EPIDEMIOLOGICAL STUDIES REALLY TELL US?
    http://www.rescuepost.com/files/vaccines-and-autism-epidemiology-rebuttal.pdf

  • Kevin Williams

    It’s not my study, nor did I publish it, so I won’t be retracting it. And even if I were to not cite that study, I will have the other study which reaches the exact same conclusion about the credibility of Bollinger’s fatality rate estimate.

    And I stand by my statement that if coip had any real evidence to contradict the statements in those two studies, he should have cited that evidence instead of making an ad hominem attack against one of the authors of one of the studies. And yes, it very much was an ad hominem attack.

    Playing the shill gambit is yet another way to deflect attention away from the fact that you offer no evidence of your own to rebut the studies I posted.

  • Not a single counter source here to this point has actually proven the stated circumcision death numbers to be wrong. In fact I think the actual number is much much higher than that, and that does not even count botched circumcisions. The real and complete numbers are simply not recorded by any official source. So we will go with the best sources we have.

    And by the article and as to its titled subject matter, that circumcision was done in a hospital, and not in the bushes. Here it reads.

    [One hot, December day, a twenty-one year old man who appeared healthy arrived at Tygerberg Hospital here in Cape Town and some time later was ushered into theatre. He remained there for nine hours.
    The young man was there because just three years earlier he had had his penis amputated in order to save his life after a local circumcision had gone badly wrong.

    The surgery he underwent in December was declared a success just four months later: he was the recipient of the first-ever penile transplant to result in full functionality.]

    Any person with common sense, simply can not make a rational and scientific argument for circumcision. And you what really disgusts me? Here you shills are again, ignoring the actual and focal subject matter of this article, and as you always do, you simply divert the attention to matters that the articles main issue of focus, was never on. You do nothing but disrupt and distract and away from any productive debate as to the article itself. The same shillary crap results and with every article here.

  • Seems to me that you are just trying to divert and confuse the issue of vaccines, and vaccine safety.

  • Groundbreaking study reveals 20% of all deaths now caused by junk food and toxic food ingredients
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-09-28-groundbreaking-study-reveals-20-of-all-deaths-caused-by-junk-food-and-toxic-food-ingredients.html

  • Ruth

    None of this surprises me. Especially with the HUGE problems associated with using a ‘foreign host’ for vaccine development and manufacture. This has been a problem ever since the polio vaccine. It’s where retroviruses and other contaminants, like cancer genes, have come from.
    This is something we are currently seeing a lot of in the health care industry. Judy Mikovits explains:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUtIO_h1fRA

  • Quit obviously and if you had any honesty and common sense you can see that vitamin C and D intake and as well many other clean diet options do create not only increased longevity but as well much healthier people. Eliminating toxicity fro the human body and replacing it with actual cellular nutrition, is the key to recovery from many health conditions that the pharma misdirected doctors have no real hope in curing on a level of actually understanding direct physiological causation. Thinking people are not interested in treating only the symptoms with chemcial drugs, and which have a mile long list of additional side effects.

    And by the way, polio was repeatedly cured in humans by the use of IV vitamin C, but not only Dr. Jungeblut, but others. I doubt that animals are a good substitute in the study of human polio. The FDA has disallowed the use of IV vitamin C in our current day; however liposomic encapsulated vitamin C has shown to produce vitamin C levels that are nearly as good as the previous IV vitamin C. It ha shown good results against H1N1 flu and where the patient was obviously dying having just simply been given dangerous anti-viral drugs.

  • Augustina

    Thank you for your stance on the vivisection issue. We appreciate your willingness to speak out against this animal cruelty and welcome your input.
    It truly is horrible what is happening to these animals being used for research.

  • That is clearly not what the real studies show. And perhaps they can keep a human being alive longer today in certain situations than it used to be; but in the end what quality of life do they actually have. And by the way over-all infant mortality rates have decreased, not increased. You simply refuse to accept the real studies, and you just keep your head stuck in the junk science. No you don’t actually have 100’s of studies showing the safety of vaccines, and you certainly do not have ANY studies showing the safety of the current CDC childhood vaccine schedule. But just keep misleading and lying to yourself all you want.

  • Again, nothing in either study actually refuted Bollinger’s estimate.

    And I didn’t say you would actually retract the study itself; I said you should retract your posting of the study. Putting forth the truth, is not an adhominem attack; what part of that don’t you yet get. You shills simply refuse to be wrong, ever.

    And you are an obviously sick and in denial shill, and stating that does not deflect away from anything at all here. No one would and could become that twisted unless they were a paid shill. It is all the standard shillary text book responses from you.

  • The real numbers as for the deaths and botched circumcisions are not even known for sure, as none of it is recorded in any official and unbiased capacity. It is all and as well and most of it just covered up.

  • And far enough to be able to have a reading comprehension level like this. How about you? Looks like you have nothing.

    Forced, coerced, and mandated vaccination are in violation of these principals.

    A VIOLATION OF ARTICLE 6 OF THE UNESCO 2005 STATEMENT ON BIOETHICS AND HUMAN RIGHTS

    Article 6, section 1:
    Any preventive, diagnostic and therapeutic medical intervention is only to be carried out with the prior, free and informed consent of the person concerned, based on adequate information. The consent should, where appropriate, be express and may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason WITHOUT DISADVANTAGE or prejudice. (caps mine)

    Article 6, section 3:
    In no case should a collective community agreement or the consent of a community leader or other authority substitute for an individual’s informed consent.

    http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0014/001461/146180E.pdf

    Vaccines are in direct violation of the Nuremberg Code, and as more vaccines and doses have been added to the CDC schedule, that violation has clearly been increased.

    Nuremberg Code Establishes the Principle of Informed Consent
    http://www.encyclopedia.com/science/medical-magazines/nuremberg-code-establishes-principle-informed-consent

    Declaration of Helsinki
    World Medical Association Declaration of Helsinki
    Ethical Principles for Medical Research Involving Human Subjects
    http://www.who.int/bulletin/archives/79(4)373.pdf

    WPF Files Comments on Federal Proposal for Human Subject Research (Common Rule)
    https://www.worldprivacyforum.org/2016/01/wpf-files-comments-on-federal-proposal-for-human-subject-research-common-rule/

    The Nuremberg Code
    http://www.stat.ncsu.edu/people/tsiatis/courses/st520/references/nuremberg-code.pdf

    Nuremberg Code
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Code

    HHS(.)gov
    U.S. Department of Health & Human Services
    The Nuremberg Code
    http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/archive/nurcode.html

    Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights
    http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=31058&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html

    Ethical Guidelines, Federal Regulations and State Statutes
    Ethical Guidelines-Nuremberg Code
    http://www.research.uci.edu/compliance/human-research-protections/researchers/ethical-guidelines-fed-regs-and-state-statutes.html

    Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights
    http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=31058&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html

    MEDICAL NUREMBERG FOR CDC NOW

    Although brave to come forward, let us not forget that Dr. William Thompson, Dr. Colleen Boyle, Dr. Frank DeStefano and others are now legitimate, international criminals awaiting hearing. It matters not what they say from here on out, humanity has enough evidence for proceedings to go forward with a Medical Nuremberg 2.0. The fact that Dr. William Thompson, Dr. Colleen Boyle, and Dr. Frank DeStefano are not in custody is another sad, historically documented example of the failure of our justice system to show teeth towards the crimes of the medical industry. Dr. William Thompson and perhaps the entire CDC have admitted to clear violations of the Nuremberg Principles laid out in 1948. To compound the urgency of this matter to be acted upon, many other international treatise and United Nations doctrines have been breached making this vaccine fraud prosecutable by any nation/country that wishes to side step the apathy of the United States for the good of the world. Sadly, by the lack of any action from medical oversight committees in the United States, we have sent a clear message to the world that we are the bad guys that either refuse to clean up our own back yard or willfully are criminals like the Nazi’s that sat on the stands in Nuremberg 66 years ago.

    Here is a short list of international violations to be further investigated in relation to the willful vaccine induced damages during the research conducted in 2004 by Dr. William Thompson:

    Nuremburg Principles:

    Principle I states, “Any person who commits an act which constitutes a crime under international law is responsible therefore and liable to punishment.”

    Principle III states, “The fact that a person who committed an act which constitutes a crime under international law acted as Head of State or responsible government official does not relieve him from responsibility under international law.”

    Principle IV states: “The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him”.

    Principle VII states, “Complicity in the commission of a crime against peace, a war crime, or a crime against humanity as set forth in Principle VI is a crime under international law.”

    Nuremburg Code:

    5.) No experiment should be conducted where there is a prior reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as subjects.

    6.) The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.

    7.) Proper preparations should be made and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability, or death.

    10.) During the course of the experiment the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probable cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill and careful judgment required of him that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.

    Decleration of Geneva:

    The health of my patient will be my first consideration

    I will practice my profession with conscience and dignity

    I will not use my medical knowledge to violate human rights and civil liberties, even under threat

    I will maintain the utmost respect for human life

    I will not permit considerations of age, disease or disability, creed, ethnic origin, gender, nationality, political affiliation, race, sexual orientation, social standing or any other factor to intervene between my duty and my patient

    Declaration of Halsinki:-Operational Principles

    Article 13: subject to independent ethical review and oversight by a properly convened committee

    Article 17: Studies should be discontinued if the available information indicates that the original considerations are no longer satisfied

    Article 16: Information regarding the study should be publicly available

    Article 27: Ethical publications extend to publication of the results and consideration of any potential conflict of interest

    Article 30: The interests of the subject after the study is completed should be part of the overall ethical assessment, including assuring their access to the best proven care

    International Treatise under the United Nations United Nations Universal Doctrine of Human Rights Convention on the Rights of the Child

    Article 19: of the Convention states that state parties must “take all appropriate legislative, administrative, social and educational measures to protect the child from all forms of physical or mental violence”

    The system of Medical Ethics is purposely omitted due to its definition as a system of moral principles that apply values and judgements to the practice of medicine. This does not apply to the case of the CDC and others responsible because they have clearly shown by their actions that they have not morals and principles.

    Read more:
    http://www.jeffereyjaxen.com/blog/medical-nuremberg-for-cdc-now

    Internet Trolls Attack Anyone Resisting Vaccine Party Line
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS6n2Hx9Ykk&list=RDIS6n2Hx9Ykk#t=6

    If you think that vaccine ingredients have been proven as safe and even when combined vaccines are used, ask youR doctor for the studies? They do not exist.

    Vaccine Ingredients
    In the first 6 years of life your child receives the following:
    • 17,500 mcg 2-phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
    • 5,700 mcg aluminum (a known neurotoxin)
    • Unknown amounts of fetal bovine serum (aborted cow blood)
    • 801.6 mcg formaldehyde (carcinogen, embalming agent)
    • 23,250 mcg gelatin (ground up animal carcasses)
    • 500 mcg human albumin (human blood)
    • 760 mcg of monosodium L-glutamate (causes obesity & diabetis)
    • Unknown amounts of MRC-5 cells (aborted human babies)
    • Over 10 mcg neomycin (antibiotic)
    • Over 0.075 mcg polymyxin B (antibiotic)
    • Over 560 mcg polysorbate 80 (carcinogen)
    • 116 mcg potassium chloride (used in lethal injection to shut down the heart and stop breathing)
    • 188 mcg potassium phosphate (liquid fertilizer agent)
    • 260 mcg sodium bicarbonate (baking soda)
    • 70 mcg sodium borate (Borax, used for cockroach control)
    • 54,100 mcg of sodium chloride (table salt)
    • Unknown amounts of sodium citrate (food additive)
    • Unknown amounts of sodium hydroxide (Danger! Corrosive)
    • 2,800 mcg sodium phosphate (toxic to any organism)
    • Unknown amounts of sodium phosphate monobasic monohydrate (toxic to any organism)
    • 32,000 mcg sorbitol (Not to be injected)
    • 0.6 mcg streptomycin (antibiotic)
    • Over 40,000 mcg sucrose (cane sugar)
    • 35,000 mcg yeast protein (fungus)
    • 5,000 mcg urea (metabolic waste from human urine)

    Vaccine Ingredients and Manufacturer Information
    (alphabetical order by vaccine)
    http://vaccines.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=005206

    The Toxic Ingredients in Innoculations

    Most people who vaccinate their children do not realize the kind of ingredients contained in vaccines—and even if they do know, they may not fully understand what that particular ingredient does or what it means. This article is written to help those individuals better understand what they are injecting into the bodies of their loved ones.
    What prompted me to put this list together was the staggering number of people reporting adverse reactions to vaccines. I wanted to know why so many children experience many of the same reactions. What I found was that many of the adverse reactions fit into many of the side effects of many ingredients contained in vaccines. Please educate before you vaccinate! Don’t wait for something bad to happen before you begin researching vaccines.

    INGREDIENTS OF COMMON VACCINES

    Red more:
    http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/vaccination/adjuvants-in-vaccines/

    New Published Italian Study: MICRO and NANO-CONTAMINATION in VACCINES

    Article excerpts:

    The scientists were “baffled” because they found a large amount of unexpected micro and nano-contamination in ALL the pediatric vaccines that they tested.
    Substances like … Lead … Tungsten … Zirconium … Iron … Nickel … Antimony … Stainless Steel … Titanium … Chromium — to name only a few!
    The only vaccine free of nano-contaminants was one for pets!

    Below are some quotes from the “Discussion” part of the Study
    ➲ The quantity of foreign bodies detected and, in some cases, their unusual chemical compositions BAFFLED US. The inorganic particles identified are neither biocompatible nor biodegradable, that means that they are BIOPERSISTENT and can INDUCE EFFECTS that can become evident either IMMEDIATELY CLOSE TO INJECTION TIME or AFTER A CERTAIN TIME from administration.

    ➲ After being injected, those microparticles, nanoparticles and aggregates can stay around the injection site forming SWELLINGS and GRANULOMAS. But they can also be carried by the blood circulation, escaping any attempt to guess what will be their final destination. We believe that in many cases they get distributed throughout the body without causing any visible reaction, but it is also likely that, in some circumstances, they REACH SOME ORGAN, none excluded and including the microbiota, IN A FAIR QUANTITY.

    ➲ As happens with all foreign bodies, particularly that small, they induce an INFLAMMATORY REACTION that is CHRONIC because most of those particles CANNOT BE DEGRADED.

    ➲ Furthermore, the protein-corona effect (due to a nano-bio-interaction) can produce organic/inorganic composite particles capable of STIMULATING THE IMMUNE SYSTEM IN AN UNDESIRABLE WAY.

    ➲ It is impossible not to add that particles the size often observed in vaccines can ENTER CELL NUCLEI and INTERACT WITH THE DNA.
    In some cases, e.g. as occurs with Iron and some Iron alloys, they can corrode and the corrosion products EXERT A TOXICITY affecting the tissues.

    ➲ Given the contaminations we observed in all samples of human-use vaccines, ADVERSE EFFECTS AFTER THE INJECTION OF THOSE VACCINES ARE POSSIBLE AND CREDIBLE and have the character of RANDOMNESS, since they DEPEND ON WHERE THE CONTAMINANTS ARE CARRIED BY THE BLOOD CIRCULATION.

    ➲ It is a well-known fact in toxicology that contaminants exert a mutual, synergic effect, and as the number of contaminants increases, the effects grow less and less predictable. The more so when some substances are unknown.

    Quotes end:

    This Scientific Study is very significant! It clearly shows how reckless and careless the Pharmaceutical Companies are when it comes to vaccines. They sweep vaccine injury under the carpet, deny it and ignore it.

    But what do we really expect when all liability has been removed from the makers of all vaccines? Nobody can sue vaccine makers, no matter how careless or reckless they may have been. There is no incentive to ensure that vaccines are safe.

    There are already enough hazardous ingredients in vaccines like aluminum and mercury. And now we discover that there are many, many more nano-sized metals in vaccines that have no reason to be there.

    At times like this, I am sure glad that I have NEVER EVER vaccinated my 3 precious children.

    The Vaccine Manufacturers have lost ALL MY TRUST. The regulators such as the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) have lost all of my trust.

    I have covered many vaccine injury stories here on Steemit, and discussed the corruption at the CDC several times.

    https://steemit.com/vaccines/@canadian-coconut/new-published-italian-study-micro-and-nano-contamination-in-vaccines

    Little Things Matter: The Impact of Toxins on the Developing Brain
    Canadian Environmental Health Atlas

    We’ve been studying the impact of toxins on children for the past 30 years and reached the inescapable conclusion: little things matter. We’ve discovered that extremely low levels of toxins can impact brain development. We have also discovered that subtle shifts in the intellectual abilities of individual children have a big impact on the number of children in a population that are challenged or gifted. Steps should be taken to reduce children’s exposure to toxins or suspected toxins. You can read more about how toxins impact brain development and the supportive documentation for this video here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6KoMAbz1Bw

    The Impact of Toxins on the Developing Brain
    Annual Review of Public Health

    Abstract

    The impact of toxins on the developing brain is usually subtle for an individual child, but the damage can be substantial at the population level. Numerous challenges must be addressed to definitively test the impact of toxins on brain development in children: We must quantify exposure using a biologic marker or pollutant; account for an ever-expanding set of potential confounders; identify critical windows of vulnerability; and repeatedly examine the association of biologic markers of toxins with intellectual abilities, behaviors, and brain function in distinct cohorts. Despite these challenges, numerous toxins have been implicated in the development of intellectual deficits and mental disorders in children. Yet, too little has been done to protect children from these ubiquitous but insidious toxins. The objective of this review is to provide an overview on the population impact of toxins on the developing brain and describe implications for public health.

    http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev-publhealth-031912-114413

    Dirty Vaccines: New Study Reveals Prevalence of Contaminants

    Every Human Vaccine Tested Was Contaminated by Unsafe Levels of Metals and Debris Linked to Cancer and Autoimmune Disease, New Study Reports

    Researchers examining 44 samples of 30 different vaccines found dangerous contaminants, including red blood cells in one vaccine and metal toxicants in every single sample tested – except in one animal vaccine.

    Using extremely sensitive new technologies not used in vaccine manufacturing, Italian scientists reported they were “baffled” by their discoveries which included single particles and aggregates of organic debris including red cells of human or possibly animal origin and metals including lead, tungsten, gold, and chromium, that have been linked to autoimmune disease and leukemia.

    In the study, published this week in the International Journal of Vaccines and Vaccination, the researchers led by Antonietta Gatti, of the National Council of Research of Italy and the Scientific Director of Nanodiagnostics, say their results “show the presence of micro- and nano-sized particulate matter composed of inorganic elements in vaccine samples” not declared in the products’ ingredients lists.

    Lead particles were found in the cervical cancer vaccines, Gardasil and Cervarix, for example, and in the seasonal flu vaccine Aggripal manufactured by Novartis as well as in the Meningetec vaccine meant to protect against meningitis C.

    Samples of an infant vaccine called Infarix Hexa (against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, hepatitis B, poliomyelitis and haemophilus influenzae type B) manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline was found to contain stainless steel, tungsten and a gold-zinc aggregate.

    Other metal contaminants included platinum, silver, bismuth, iron, and chromium. Chromium (alone or in alloy with iron and nickel) was identified in 25 of the human vaccines from Italy and France that were tested.

    GSK’s Fluarix vaccine for children three years and older contained 11 metals and aggregates of metals. Similar aggregates to those identified in the vaccines have been shown to be prevalent in cases of leukemia, the researchers noted.

    Many of the vaccines contained iron and iron alloys which, according to the researchers, “can corrode and the corrosion products exert a toxicity affecting the tissues”.

    READ MORE:
    http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/dirty-vaccines-new-study-reveals-prevalence-of-contaminants

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So you don’t have any evidence either.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Copy/pasting has nothing to do with reading comprehension, but let’s test that theory. In the Gatti et al study what contaminants were found in the control samples?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    My point is you don’t understand basic math, let alone grammar. When is any percentage of zero not still zero?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So you’re saying…the CDC funded the Australian review article I linked? Have any evidence of that? Oh God, is the AAP involved too? (Maybe it was aliens)

  • Ron Roy

    ”Malnourishment has not been reported as a contributing factor in any of these outbreaks” The Medical Mafia /establishment.wouldn’t ever admit to that anyway.

  • Ron Roy

    Fruit, vegetables and vitamin mineral supplements do contribute to peoples longevity. Especially mineral supplements because our soil ( according to the Federal Government ) have been depleted of minerals since the 30s.

  • Ron Roy

    You mean $cientific re$earch. Don’t forget the $$$$$$$. You know the research that’s bought and paid for by the drug industry.

  • Ron Roy

    Fruit, vegetables AND vitamin mineral supplements.And that chart by the way is wrong. Grains should be kept at a minimum and yes even whole grains. Oils with a couple exceptions should be eliminated and substituted with saturated fats.Mineral supplements are needed even if a person eats all the recommended foods because our soils ( according to the Federal government ) have been depleted of minerals since the 30s.

  • Kevin Williams

    OK, I guess conspiracy theories are all you have to bring to the table.

  • Kevin Williams

    Well, I guess nobody is arguing that ritualistic circumcisions performed by “traditional surgeons” in the non-sterile African bush don’t cause deaths. And the circumcision performed on the penile transplant patient in your story was NOT performed in a hospital. Quoting from the link you posted (but apparently didn’t actually read), “Professor Van Der Merwe’s patient was one of scores of victims of botched traditional circumcision ceremonies every year.”

    And again, this article is irrelevant because the claim being refuted is that there are more than 100 deaths caused by circumcisions *in the U.S.* every year. That claim is an estimate based on the assumption that the difference in infant mortality rates between males and females is due to circumcisions. However, studies have shown that that assumption is flawed. There is a difference in mortality rates between males and females in countries with high circumcision rates and in countries with low circumcision rates, and that these differences in mortality rates do not correspond to the differences in circumcision rates.

    This is simply another example of somebody with an agenda skipping all the hard parts of the scientific method in order to jump directly from an untested (yet eminently testable) hypothesis to a conclusion. In this case, the testable hypothesis is that the difference in mortality rates might be attributable to deaths caused by circumcision. A real scientist would then design a study to test that hypothesis, gather data, analyze the result, then either accept, discard, or modify the original hypothesis. When real scientists did just that, they found no correlation between circumcision rates and the difference in mortality rates between males and females. The logical conclusion is that the original hypothesis was flawed, as has been pointed out in the two studies I cited. Consequently, any estimates of deaths based on this flawed hypothesis have no merit.

    And since you keep insisting on disregarding all these peer-reviewed studies as “junk science,” please state your credentials for making such a judgment. Barring that, please provide any specific points in the studies I–and others–have cited, that are wrong, in your opinion.

  • Bored Now

    And that chart by the way is wrong

    It’s based on more data than you and everyone you know will ever see. So no, you’re the most likely to be wrong here. :-)

  • Bored Now

    Groundbreaking study reveals 20% of all deaths now caused by

    You might want to read the actual study.

    junk food and toxic food ingredients

    Again, reading would help.

  • Ron Roy

    Every dietician that I’ve seen in my area ( and that includes a hospital and three nursing homes ) is extremely obese. So assuming they follow their own advice the chart is wrong. Way to many grains / carbs.

  • Ron Roy

    I never said 80% but I did say those people who supplement with vitamins and minerals are better off. Nice try sophie.

  • AutismDadd

    Or help by helping the Third World poor with clean water, sanitation, food or shelter. They only want the vaccine $$$

  • Bored Now

    Wow a sample of four? You could generalize the universe with that!

    So assuming

    something entirely irrelevant to the point. People are not eating vegetables and fruits to even the low requirements of US government. Ergo, better eating can’t be the reason for increases in lifespan.

  • Jason F

    I want to mention to those who don’t fully know that modern circumcision isn’t even an accurate term. I am against modern circumcision, and with my son I now know that the medical industry since the 1800’s has been lying to people what circumcision really is. The word ‘fore’ even means forward part, extending foreward, and front portion. What is being cut off is not only the foreskin (the skin beyond the glans is the foreskin only) is the whole prepuce a major portion of the shaft skin. This modern mutilation of children is not only wrong, is terribly dangerous, and lifechanging for a man and woman later in life. If you want to know more, please do your own research about foreskin restoration. This link will explain the history about real circumcision.

    http://www.cirp.org/library/history/peron2/

  • Bored Now

    I never said 80%

    Ron, have you ever considered reading? You did claim that food was an enormous part of the increase in longevity. If it’s not fruits and vegetables – then FOOD are people generally eating which increases their lifespan?

    Let me guess, you’ve now moved your goalposts to supplementation. :-) You’ll lose that fight too but I’d like to see you confirm since it’s sort of light waiting for the national anthem to play before the game begins.

  • My friend, Lula Fiereisen, had a baby brother who died from circumcision.

  • That’s not a cogent reply. I would never subvert and confuse the issue of vaccines and vaccine safety. My mantra (after 40 years of observation and intuition, and 35 years of research, writing of many articles, 2 books) IS:

    ALL vaccines are ALL poison, ALL the time, in ALL doses.

    Why not do a little reading and find out what it’s all about, before making such a statement?

    It is the profit oriented industries which originally, and still do, employ vivisection as part of their strategy to “divert and confuse the issue of vaccines..” and so many of their other toxic products! As someone posted elsewhere:

    “They have two defenses that get them off the hook. Either one works: ‘It was tested safe in animals” and, “You cannot reliably extrapolate the results from animals to humans.’ Seem contradictory? They are. But they both work in court of law and the manufacturers of dangerous cosmetics or drugs can walk away with no consequences for maiming or killing consumers.”

    Unfortunately, those who are against the end results (including vaccinations), erroneously believe that they may use the same tactics as their own oppressors do, to prove the opposite. The poor animals get caught (and needlessly suffer) in the middle of these vivisection battles.

    We both know vaccines are bad news. There is plenty, mountains of, evidence throughout it’s history to prove it.

  • Again, where is your evidence that it did not happen that way, and in support of your persistent denial. Again, why do you continue to focus on anything but the main and most concerning points of this article, and in regard to vaccines?

  • Yaa really . . . Wegner MD; that selection is very well put together and if I didn’t understand what I was doing and in the points that I was making, it wouldn’t have been possible to do. Is there anything at all that you will not lie and about and make complete denial of here?

    And you are playing nothing but more of the typical and sick shillary, cat and mouse games here. That study clearly outlines for you what contaminants were found in the vaccines, so simply read it. Is there really a Karl Wegner MD? If so then present with your credentials and where you practice?

    International Journal of Vaccines and Vaccination
    New Quality-Control Investigations on Vaccines: Microand
    Nanocontamination
    http://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/IJVV-04-00072.pdf

  • That is again the typical twisted vaccine shillary response trash. And you were the person that made this idiotic reply comment below, and you were replying to Ron in regard to the issue of the known 1 to 10% reporting factor to VAERS; that in regard to both pharma drugs and vaccines.

    [Karl Wegner MD Ron Roy • 2 days ago
    10% or 100% of zero is still zero.]

    I provided you directly with more than enough sources above and to show you that indeed that 1 to 10% reporting figure is correct.

    What part of the math do you actually understand here; that adverse reactions total a number of 0? That means that you either don’t actually understand much of anything; or you are flat out lying. So which is it; one or both? It must be horrendous to live a life within the refusal of knowledge and the deep denial that you have.

  • I did not say that there was evidence for funding of that study but it was heavily influenced by the US CDC and Pediatrics. I mean just face it the entire article is just riddled with endless references to the CDC and Pediatrics. Some basic examples among many are below

    [Core tip: Australia and New Zealand should follow the lead of the American Academy of Pediatrics and the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in facilitating education, provider training, patient access and affordability of circumcision of male infants and boys.

    Paradoxically such declines were accompanied by an increase in the quantity and quality of medical scientific findings attesting to numerous health and medical benefits. A decade ago the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) began an extensive review of the accumulated evidence to 2010.

    INTRODUCTION

    Paradoxically such declines were accompanied by an increase in the quantity and quality of medical scientific findings attesting to numerous health and medical benefits. A decade ago the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP)

    In 2014, after extensive deliberations stemming from a consultation in 2007 in Atlanta with stakeholders[4], the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released its draft recommendations on MC[5]. These endorsed the AAP’s policy but went further by recommending MC of adolescents and men, especially those in populations in the United States in which prevalence of HIV and other sexually transmitted infections (STIs) is high.]

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5296634/

  • I read the study and those sections, and so you don’t need to copy and paste parts of it for me. Do you know what junk science and articles of false refute, are? The analysis you refer to does not even make a valid point. All it is is just more twisted mumbo jumbo and shillary sharks, hit piece trash. Wake up.

  • I don’t give a flying %$&# what you think is a cogent reply and nor as to what you claim isn’t. I could care less about your issues with so called, vivisection; and which you as well largely misrepresent. Vaccine safety has been no where near to have been adequately tested in animals, so I don’t know where you get that. In fact very few if any actual vaccine safety studies have been done and by tested in animals. If any and that and which show vaccine safety. Dr Wakefield was doing what was as close to that type of primate vaccine safety studies, at Pittsburgh University; and Merck shut him down, and we all know the rest of the story, or should. Using distracting issues of so called vivisection here, seems to be something that only controlled opposition would do. You should move on to something more productive.

    When is anyone going to address the actual and far more concerning issues in this article, instead of only distracting away from it?

  • That is the same false crap that you twisted shills always say.

    And exactly where did you see a contradiction? You argue just to argue.

    Poor diet is a factor in one in five deaths, global disease study reveals
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/sep/14/poor-diet-is-a-factor-in-one-in-five-deaths-global-disease-study-reveals

    Five papers on life expectancy and the causes and risk factors of death and ill health have been published by the Lancet medical journal.
    http://www.thelancet.com/gbd

    You know but keep on being brainwashed that big pharma and the standard monopoly mainstream system of health care has the right answers. You know, the same system that is now known as the leading cause of human death in the US, and with a number just under a million deaths per years, which that numner is larger than the number of deaths due to cancer and/or heart disease individually.

  • Kevin Williams

    You may have read the article, but it seemed pretty clear that you missed something significant when you claimed the original circumcision was performed in a hospital.

    Again, accusations of “junk science” without justifying how you’re qualified to make that assessment. In lieu of credentials, how about simply pointing out a few specific items that are wrong in this “junk science.” I’ll take proof of data falsification, poor statistical analysis, invalid conclusions drawn from the data, or verifiable falsehoods in the study–pretty much anything that would invalidate the study. No ad hominem attacks or unsubstantiated conspiracy theories–just tell me where the science is wrong.

  • Citing even a single study by Brian Morris indicates one of two things: 1. you’re a propagandist who ignores empirical reality to promote forced genital mutilation of minors, 2. you’re ignorant of how science works and aren’t qualified to participate in discussions evaluating such literature. Either way, you no longer have any credibility.
    There’s a ton of data to dispute propagandist Morris’s codswallop. The foreskin, ridged band, and frenulum are functional, innervated tissues. Removing them removes those functions and sensations. Any proposed medical justification for forced genital cutting of boys has no empirical consensus, and all alleged justifications have more effective, non-invasive alternatives.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    If you’re going to make a claim like that the burden of proof is on you. All we’ve seen is an obituary.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    “That study clearly outlines for you what contaminants were found in the vaccines, so simply read it.”
    That’s not the issue. Prove to us your level of reading comprehension by telling us what contaminants were found in the control samples from the Gatti study.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    More drivel. There have been no deaths reported from MC in infants in the US in recent times. And this nonsense about only 10% of MC-related deaths being reported comes from shear ignorance or lying. 100% would be reported by law.

    http://omi.unm.edu/about/faq/reportable.html

    – Any death that occurs suddenly and unexpectedly, that is, when the person has not been under medical care for significant heart, lung or other disease

    – Any death that occurs unexpectedly during, in association with, or as a result of diagnostic, therapeutic, surgical, or anesthetic procedures.

    – Deaths alleged to have been caused by an act of malpractice.

    – Deaths unattended by a physician.

    – Any death of an infant or child where the medical history has not established some pre-existing medical condition.

    -Any death in which there is doubt as to whether or not it is a medical investigator’s case should be reported.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    For the love of God, man, the AIM OF THE PAPER was: “To determine whether recent evidence-based United States policies on male circumcision (MC) apply to comparable Anglophone countries, Australia and New Zealand.”
    THAT IS THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE

  • RE: “Just because the industry speaks out of both sides of its mouth and the courts go along with it all does not mean all studies involving vivisection are without merit (in their findings).”

    I’ll put it this way, since no one is interested in reading the information put forth in the links I shared.

    Vivisection is like play Russian Roulette. It has ended up causing far more damage and deaths than producing anything life-saving. In the interest of not taking up a whole lot of space, I’ll paste just a small portion from one doctor:

    “There are endless possibilities for producing irrefutable evidence in support of any theory, through the use of various animal species; all one has to do is to select the appropriate species.

    “Do you want to prove that the amanita is by no means a deadly mushroom by much rather a delicay fit for humans? Just feed it to a rabbit, morning, noon and night. He will thrive on it. Do you want to ruin the citrus fruit growers? Then feed their lemons to cats, who will die from them.

    “Do we wish to prove that prussic acid, the mere smell of which can kill a human being, makes a fine aperitif? Then let’s feed it to toads and sheep.

    “Do we want to stop cooks from using parsley? Let’s give it to the parrot, and you will find him stone dead the next morning.

    “Or do we want penicillin to disappear from all drugstore counters? Let’s give guinea-pigs a taste of it, and they will promptly die from it.

    The amount of opium a porcupine can actually swallow in one lump with no trouble at all would keep a human addict groggy for two weeks if he just smoked it, let alone what it would do to him if he swallowed it.

    Or do we want penicillin to disappear from all drugstore counters? Let’s give guinea-pigs a taste of it, and they will promptly die from it.

    “The amount of opium a porcupine can actually swallow in one lump with no trouble at all would keep a human addict groggy for two weeks if he just smoked it, let alone what it would do to him if he swallowed it.

    “To convince the consumers that botulin is harmless, just add a bit of this poison to some cat food; the cat will happily lick its lips. But the cat’s traditional game, the mouse, will die from it as if struck by lightning.

    “Moonshiners are responsible for blinding thousands of people, owing to the methyl alcohol in their booze. But this same methyl alcohol doesn’t affect the eyes of most laboratory animals.

    “Arsenic is supposed to be poisonous? That is a pure invention of the crime writers. The proof? Sheep can tolerate a considerable quantity of arsenic.

    Does your pussycat have the sniffles? Be sure not to give her any aspirin – unless, of course, you want to kill her.

    “Are you asked to demonstrate the uselessness of vitamin C? Then remove it entirely from the diet of some animal that’s close at hand – a dog, cat, rat, mouse, hamster. They will nevertheless stay healthy, because their organisms produce their own vitamin C. But we may not withold it from ginea-pigs, primates, or humans. Deprived of all vitamin C they would eventually all die from scurvy.

    One hundred milligrams of scopolamine leave dogs and cats unaffected; but five milligrams are sufficient to kill a human being.

    “Strychnine, as popular among the murderers in detective stories as arsenic, has no effect at all on guinea pigs, chickens or monkeys, not even in a dosage which would be enough to put a whole human family into convulsions.

    “Hemlock, well-known through the death of Socrates, is dangerous because of its similarity to parsley, but it is eaten with great relish by goats, sheep and horses.

    “Amyl nitrate dangerously raises the internal pressure of the eyes of a dog, but lowers the pressure within the human eye.

    The foxglove (digitalis) was formerly considered to be dangerous for the heart because, when tested on dogs, it raised their blood-pressure. For this reason the use of this medicament, which is of undisputed value for the human heart, was delayed by many years.

    Novalgin is an anaesthetic for humans, but in cats it causes excitement and salivation, similarly to what occurs in an animal suffering from rabies.

    Cycloserin is used for tuberculous patients, but has no effect on guinea pigs and rats which have been made tuberculous artificially.

    The anti-inflammatory Phenylbutazone can be administered to dogs and other animals in high doses, for it quickly loses its effect in their bodies. But if similar doses were given to humans, poisoning would soon set in, because this medicament needs 100 to 150 times longer to become inactive and checked in its effects.

    Chloramphenicol often seriously damages the blood-producing bone marrow of humans, but not the marrow of animals.

    Acidum oroticum has a healing influence on the human liver, but causes fattiness in the liver of rats.

    Chlorpromazine damages the human liver, but not the livers of laboratory animals. Methyl fluoracetate has a toxic effect on mammals, but the rat can tolerate a dosage forty times higher than the dose that kills a dog. And man? Will he react like a rat, or like a dog?”

    That is a very small sample of what can be found in the information shared by doctors and scientists who are speaking out.

    I think you already know that vaccinations, a direct product of vivisection, are a monstrous failure, to say the least.

    One last quote, and maybe you’ll be interested to research some more:

    “The abolition of vivisection would in no way halt medical progress, just the opposite is the case. All the sound medical knowledge of today stems from observations carried out on human beings. No surgeon can gain the least knowl­edge from experiments on animals, and all the great surgeons of the past and of the present day are in agreement on that. One cannot learn surgery through oper­ating on animals. Animals are completely different from Man from the anatomi­cal standpoint, their reactions are quite different, their structure is different and their resistance is different. Animals can only mislead the surgeon. If one has performed many operations on animals, one loses the sensitivity, the delicate touch necessary for operating on humans.” (Prof. Dr. Bruno Fedi, Director of the Institute of Pathological Anatomy at the General Hospital in Temi, Italy, in a video interview with CIVIS in Rome, January 11, 1986)

  • I agree with you that it is immoral, but strongly disagree that it is viable.

    Some doctors and scientists, who are opposed to vivisection on scientific grounds, over the years have offered financial rewards to anyone who can prove that vivisection is a scientific and correct methodology for studying human disease, anatomy, surgery.

    Perhaps if you have an example of what you specifically believe is a vivisection success, you can name it so it may be scrutinized.

  • Your reply looks just like that of the pro-vaxxers. No need to look at the evidence! Just mount an angry knee-jerk reaction.

    Your opinion as to what is “concerning”, and what is not, doesn’t impact the fact that the 19th century modality called “vivisection” has come around to bite us on our butts over and over again, with devastating results.

    Vaccinations are a direct result of vivisection, from the first cow pus injections, to the “testing,” and plenty of that has been done, if you’d care to look at it.

  • Kevin Williams

    You have again chosen to make an ad hominem attack on one of the multiple authors of one of the two studies I cited, rather than presenting any evidence refuting these studies.

    I understand very well how science works, and I posted a detailed explanation of why the estimate for U.S. circumcision deaths is not based on the scientific method. I’ve asked you and Hubbs to present actual evidence that the two critiques of this estimate contain factual errors, and so far you have both failed to do so. I can only conclude that you have no credible evidence that both studies I cited are wrong in their critique of the estimate.

    If you had been paying attention, I have made no claims either for or against circumcision. The only claim I have made is that the estimate of U.S. deaths from circumcision is flawed because it is based on a false assumption, and I have cited two studies supporting that claim. Beyond that, you’re just creating a straw man argument.

  • God the creator created everything you need; and you need nothing from pharma and nor man, and anything more, is an abomination. What side of the devils destructive works do you choose to be on, opposing or resisting? Until you recognize the existing battle and know of it; you won’t have the complete and the entire picture of vaccine and pharma reality.

    MEDICINE KILLS MILLIONS (direct data and statistics)
    http://medicinekillsmillions.com/

    Conventional Medicine is the Leading Cause of Death
    https://draxe.com/conventional-medicine-is-the-leading-cause-of-death/

    PHARMA DEATH CLOCK

    TOTAL DEATHS IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE JANUARY 1, 2000…

    BIG PHARMA’S CHEMICAL WARFARE ON HUMANITY DWARFS THE NUMBER OF VICTIMS KILLED BY ALL WORLD WARS AND ACTS OF TERRORISM COMBINED…

    While drug companies profit billions, people are dying by the millions.

    http://pharmadeathclock.com/

    These 13 Corporations Are “Big Pharma”: Their History, Crimes, and Products
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHSRwhceBxk

    Our Stories
    SSRI Stories is a collection of over 6,000 stories that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals) in which prescription drugs were mentioned and in which the drugs may be linked to a variety of adverse outcomes including violence.

    https://ssristories.org/

    Western Medicine is Rockefeller Medicine – All The Way
    http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/western-medicine-rockefeller-medicine/

    Benjamin Rush
    U.S. Founding Father, Signer of The Declaration of Independence
    (1746-1813)

    Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of Men and deny equal privileges to others; the Constitution of the Republic should make a Special privilege for medical freedoms as well as religious freedom.

    http://www.all-creatures.org/quotes/rush_benjamin.html

    Generation SICK: The Power, Politics and Propaganda Behind America’s Health Crisis Paperback – January 10, 2016
    by Dr. Vic Naumov (Author)
    https://www.amazon.com/Generation-SICK-Politics-Propaganda-Americas/dp/0996960406

    Pharmacopoeia …the sorceries of Babylon
    https://discernthetime.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/pharmaceuticals-the-sorceries-of-babylon/

    PHARMACEUTICALS – THE SORCERIES OF BABYLON
    http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/2014/01/pharmaceuticals-sorceries-of-babylon.html

    Pharmakeia (aka sorceries) of Babylon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L-qSVqg37E

    The Lucifarian … Attack.

    King James Bible
    And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. http://biblehub.com/revelation/18-23.htm

    King James Bible
    And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

    Revelation 18: 23, “By Thy Sorceries Were All Nations Deceived.”
    https://www.christianforums.com/threads/on-revelation-18-23-by-thy-sorceries-were-all-nations-deceived.7728322/

  • There in this case is no burden of proof is needed, and as there is no reason that anyone here and there, would be considered as lying.

  • Jason F

    Are you replying or ranting?……Cause I don’t need to know those things already know.

  • “You have again chosen to make an ad hominem attack”
    > Stating facts that reveal said author is not impartial is not an ad hominem attack; it’s crucial information that everyone who reads his propaganda should be aware of beforehand.

    “I understand very well how science works”

    > Great, then you would know there is no empirical evidence justifying forced genital cutting of healthy infants.

    ” the estimate for U.S. circumcision deaths is not based on the scientific method.”
    > Of course it isn’t, as it’s impossible for it to be so, as the data are incomplete and inherently flawed, with an unknown number of circumcision-related deaths disingenuously labeled as something else. All we know is this: routine infant circumcision is medically unnecessary, removes functional and innervated tissue, carries with it many additional risks, the extent of which are unknown, and it has resulted in unnecessary, completely preventable, infant deaths. That’s the only thing that matters.

  • ascienceguy

    You’re correct in that ‘foreign’ is not the best word to use in this circumstance as in conjures up the thought of human vs. non-human tissue, cells, antigens etc.

    The reason that the human foreskin cells attenuate the virus is because this type of cell is not a ‘natural’ target cell for the virus during its usual growth cycle of infecting a person, replicating, disseminating through the body, and being shed outside the body to a new host. The virus may have adapted to grow efficiently in several different cell types to be fully virulent (disease causing) in the host and had acquired genes to allow for efficient growth in those cell and tissue types. If passaged over and over in the foreskin cells–fibroblast-like and epithelial cells–rather than the natural cell targets in the host, one is selecting for progeny viruses that replicate better and better in these cells without the pressure of having to maintain their genes that are used in the other cell types in the human host. Without that selection pressure, the virus can lose whole chunks of genome that were responsible for infection (getting inside the cells) of host tissues, efficient replication in those tissues, or evasion of host immune responses.

    Without those genes, the re-introduced virus (as an attenuated vaccine) may be able to infect the host and replicate to a limited extent–without causing disease–before the adaptive immune response clears the virus and as a result, generates memory lymphocytes that protect against a subsequent natural infection. Keep in mind that it is possible to underattenuate a vaccine virus–and have it cause unacceptable side effects–or overattenuate a vaccine virus–such that infection is so limited that the immunity that’s generated is not robust enough to be protective against a natural infection.

  • Kevin Williams

    Ad hominem (Latin for “to the man” or “to the person”), short for argumentum ad hominem, is where an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons
    associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the
    argument itself.

    I’m still waiting for you to provide actual facts that disprove the critiques of the estimate of circumcision deaths in the U.S. in the two studies I provided.

    How about providing even one recent, credible case study of a circumcision-related death in the US? Surely not every one of the claimed 100+ annual deaths has been covered up.

  • Augustina

    How can any vaccine scientist say a virus is being attenuated by being passed through these foreskin cells, when the virus itself hasn’t been specifically isolated? Using such terms is incorrect and why so many people believe this unproven concept. Where is the proof that these viruses have been positively isolated, before taking them and having them passed through foreskin cells, to make these vaccines? The data doesn’t exist. The truth is that unidentified microorganisms are being passed through these cells and the public is not informed that there are proteins being injected into them, mostly unknown, and that all it takes is one protein injected to trigger a disease, after altering the person’s DNA. It is hard to stomach the idea of people justifying the use of foreskin to research and develop vaccines. It is also hard to stomach the idea of people justifying each and every vaccine on the market because of how they are made using altered and un-natural ingredients. Vaccine science used to promote vaccinations is some of the worst fraudulent science that has ever existed.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    “Where is the proof that these viruses have been positively isolated, before taking them and having them passed through foreskin cells, to make these vaccines?

    Seriously? Look at the paper you linked about Emory below. They used the AD169 and Towne strains of the HCMV, which are sold commercially. Here’s a review article from 26 years ago where they already had sequenced AD169’s entire genome!

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1666311

  • Augustina

    Karl, the measles virus has never been proven to exist just like the cytomegalovirus hasn’t been proven to exist. Studying cell components from a human is not the same as isolating a so-called wild-type virus strain and studying the virus by itself and then sequencing it. That link you shared does not prove any cytomegalovirus has ever been isolated. One can only wonder what they are really propagating in those foreskin cells.

    In the wording from my earlier comment, I copied and pasted this statement from THEIR study (not my words) ‘Viruses were propagated in primary human foreskin fibroblast cells’. The public is being fooled by studies suggesting a particular virus has been isolated and then propagated using human foreskin cells, to be used in a vaccine, since the virus itself was never isolated. There is no proof an isolated virus is being propagated. Microorganisms are and some are unknown.

    The images we see of viruses are mostly cell particles or computer graphic images, not from actual photographs of images seen under an electron microscope. And no proof exists that a cytomegalovirus is responsible for causing disease in humans. So why another vaccine? Worse, why do we need another vaccine made using human foreskin cut off of infants?

    Have you read the latest on Dr. Stefan Lanka on the measles vaccine fraud? This information extends to other vaccines too, including ones discussed earlier.

    Biologist Proves Measles Isn’t A Virus, Wins Supreme Court Case Against Doctor

    “In a recent ruling, judges at the German Federal Supreme Court (BGH)
    confirmed that the measles virus does not exist. Furthermore, there is
    not a single scientific study in the world which could prove the existence of the virus in any scientific literature. This raises the question of what was actually injected into millions over the past few decades.

    Not a single scientist, immunologist, infectious disease specialist or medical doctor has ever been able to establish a scientific foundation, not only for the vaccination of measles but any vaccination for infants, pregnant women,
    the elderly and even many adult subgroups.

    The fact that many vaccines are ineffective is becoming increasingly apparent. Merck was slapped with two separate class action lawsuits contending they lied about the effectiveness of the mumps vaccine in their combination MMR shot, and fabricated efficacy studies to maintain the illusion for the past two decades that the vaccine is highly protective.

    Studies such as one published in the Human and Experimental Toxicology journal found a direct statistical correlation between higher vaccine doses and infant mortality rates. The study, Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity?, was conducted by Gary S. Goldman and Neil Z. Miller who has been studying the dangers of vaccines for 25 years.

    Measles Virus Does Not Exist

    German biologist Dr. Stefan Lanka initially offered 100,000 euros to anyone who could provide scientific evidence that the measles virus existed. He had initially been ordered to pay up in court after Doctor David Bardens attempted to claim the prize after providing the biologist with a study that had been published in a medical journal. At that time, a Judge in the regional court in Ravensburg, South Germany, ruled in the favour of Dr. Bardens in a
    controversial decision claiming the criteria for evidence had been met.

    The First Civil Senate of the BGH confirmed a judgment by the Higher Regional Court of Stuttgart (OLG) on in February 2016. The sum of 100,000 euros which was offered as a reward for scientific proof of the existence of the alleged measles virus did have to be paid to the plaintiff. The plaintiff also was ordered to bear all procedural costs.

    Five experts have been involved in the case and presented the results of scientific studies. All five experts, including Prof. Dr. Dr. Andreas Podbielski who had been appointed by the OLG Stuttgart as the preceding court, have consistently found that none of the six publications which have been introduced to the trial, contains scientific proof of the existence of the alleged measles virus.

    In the trial, the results of research into so-called genetic fingerprints of alleged measles virus have been introduced. Two recognised laboratories, including the world’s largest and leading genetic Institute, arrived at exactly the same results independently.The results prove that the authors of the six
    publications in the measles virus case were wrong, and as a direct result all measles virologists are still wrong today: They have misinterpreted ordinary constituents of cells as part of the suspected measles virus.

    Because of this error, during decades of consensus
    building process, normal cell constituents were mentally assembled
    into a model of a measles virus. To this day, an actual structure that
    corresponds to this model has been found neither in a human, nor in
    an animal. With the results of the genetic tests, all thesis of
    existence of measles virus has been scientifically disproved.

    The authors of the six publications and all other persons involved, did not realise the error because they violated the fundamental scientific duty, which is the need to work “lege artis”, i.e. in accordance with internationally defined rules and best practice of science. They did not carry out any control experiments. Control experiments would have protected authors and mankind from this momentous error. This error became the basis of belief in the existenceof any disease-causing viruses. The expert appointed by the court, Prof. Dr. Dr. Podbielski, answering to the relevant question by the
    court, as per page 7 of the protocol explicitly confirmed that the authors did not conduct any control experiments.

    The OLG Stuttgart overturned the judgment of the court of first instance, dismissed the action and referred, inter alia, to the central message of Prof. Podbielski with respect to the six publications. The plaintiff filed an appeal against the judgment of the OLG to the Supreme Court. As reason he stated his subjective, yet factually false perception of the trial sequence at the court in Stuttgart, and the assertion that our naming of facts about measles posed a threat to public health. The plaintiff’s position was rejected by the Supreme Court in plain words. Thus, the Supreme Court confirmed the judgment of the OLG Stuttgart from February 16, 2016.

    The six publications submitted in the trial are the main relevant publications on the subject of “measles virus.” Since further to these six publications there not any other publications which would attempt by scientific methods to prove the existence of the measles virus, the Supreme Court judgment in the measles virus trial and the results of the genetic tests have consequences: Any national and international statements on the alleged measles virus,
    the infectivity of measles, and on the benefit and safety of vaccination against measles, are since then of no scientific character and have thus been deprived of their legal basis.

    Upon enquiries which had been triggered by the measles virus contest, the head of the National Reference Institute for Measles at the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), Prof. Dr. Annette Mankertz, admitted an important fact. This admission may explain the increased rate of vaccination-induced disabilities, namely of vaccination against measles, and why and how specifically this kind ofvaccination seems to increasingly trigger autism.

    Prof. Mankertz has admitted that the “measles virus” contains typical cell’s natural components (ribosomes, the protein factories of the cell). Since the vaccination against measles contains whole “whole measles virus”, this vaccine contains cell’s own structures. This explains why vaccination against measles causes frequent and more severe allergies and autoimmune reactions than other types of vaccination. The court expert Prof. Podbielski stated on several occasions that by the assertion of the RKI with regard to
    ribosomes in the measles virus, the thesis of existence of measles
    virus has been falsified.

    In the trial it was also put on record that the highest German scientific authority in the field of infectious diseases, the RKI, contrary to its legal remit as per 4 Infection Protection Act (IfSG), has failed to create tests for alleged measles virus and to publish these. The RKI claims that it made internal
    studies on measles virus, however refuses to hand over or publish the
    results.”

    http://preventdisease.com/news/17/012717_Biologist-Proves-Measles-Isnt-Virus-Wins-Supreme-Court-Case.shtml

  • Karl Wegner MD

    The article you linked is an alternative medicine website’s misreprentation of the Lanka case. The German Supreme Court concluded that the 6 papers submitted for the prize proved the existence of the measles virus, but that no single paper fulfilled all of Lanka’s requirements (measuring the size of the virus, showing an EM picture of it, etc).

  • “Ad hominem”
    > You vomit out a propaganda piece filled with methodologically flawed, biased information by a discredited academic and then put the onus on me to prove that codswallop wrong? I don’t play that game. You want to have a statistical and methodological debate about the justifications for forced genital cutting of infants, make a point. I’ll rebut it. But I will not entertain the idea that you citing Morris is even remotely justified. You doing so has eradicated your credibility.

    “the estimate of circumcision deaths”
    > I’m not sure what you’re waiting for. I already told you the number of circumcision-related deaths is unknown. All we know is that they occur, they’re often misreported, and they were all completely preventable.

    “How about providing even one recent, credible case study of a circumcision-related death in the US?”
    > Zackery Rollins

  • Augustina

    Dr. Stefan Lanka is one of the top virologists in the world. Why wouldn’t one paper be sufficient to prove the measles vaccine virus exists and where is the proof showing a virus causes measles? Those invested in vaccines will do and say anything to keep their wheels rolling. Show us the graphic fraud image of the measles virus then Karl. Where is it? Would love to see it.

  • ascienceguy

    Those are such wrong statements, both above and below in response to Dr. Wegner, that it shows you really have no idea. I don’t blame you since none of it would be covered in marine biology degree coursework and it would be difficult to even obtain a foundation from that degree that would allow you to understand what you are reading in the scientific and medical literature. Likewise, my marine biology knowledge is such that I couldn’t do any serious work in that field or comprehend all of the ramifications of what I was reading in publications. I freely admit it.

    To say that there is no proof that virus itself has been positively isolated? This statement speaks to you that you don’t have even a weak grasp on virology, molecular biology, or cell biology at all. Despite what you say below, the images YOU see are mostly not actual electron photomicrographs, but for those in the field, they are. For you to say that cytomegalovirus has never been isolated or shown to cause disease in humans ignores decades and decades of research and is insensitive to the families of babies that are born with congenital defects from CMV infection each year.

    You’re against circumcision. I get it. You’re against “vivisection”, which I’m taking to mean definition #2 meaning any medical research on animals (since vaccine science almost never requires someone to cut up a live animal or really do any type of surgery which at a university would require anesthesia and post-op analgesia. Yes, truly). I get that too. So how about writing some true information to support your views on those practices rather than ignorantly writing a fabricated narrative that you have no understanding of.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    “Dr. Stefan Lanka is one of the top virologists in the world.”
    Based on what? He’s a crank. What has he published? He denies the existence of viruses like HIV and Ebola.

  • What do you actually know; tell me? So this reply posting is all only about you? Excuse me if I think that is more than a bit beyond, deranged. Here is some more, and next time see if you can actually attempt to write a coherent, two sentence reply.

    If you want to get both vaccine truth, and monopolized pharma health care QUACKERY …TRUTH …educated, this would be a good place to start. And this is just the tip of the iceberg as to this available knowledge. In an age of available information, continued ignorance, is a CHOICE.

    KBOI 2 News Interview with a Toxicologist on Vaccines
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfl5VM95Cjo

    VaxXed Stories: Toxicologist Mom in Boise, Idaho
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxne1v0ZD_0

    Idaho Toxicologist Reveals Censorship of Vaccine Science in CBS Interview that Never Aired – Watch it Here

    KBOI CBS channel 2 out of Boise, Idaho, recently interviewed Ashley Cates, a toxicologist, on the issue of vaccines. The interview was never aired, so by request we are making it available to the Health Impact News readership. Ashley Cates is a toxicologist who earned her degree in environmental toxicology from the University of California at Davis (UC Davis). She has previously worked at the California EPA (Environmental Protection Agency). She now lives in Idaho. When asked about her views on childhood vaccination, Ashley replied that she believes parents should make informed choices regarding vaccines for their children, after researching all of the science. She explains that when she researched the science, she was shocked over how much science is suppressed. She believes parents should be aware of all the science related to vaccines, including the negative, so that parents can make an informed choice. When asked what her personal views were in regards to vaccines, and whether or not she vaccinates her own children, Ashley replied: “We did (vaccinate) until my son started showing signs of damage to his health… Three days after a set of vaccines, he actually had seizures and began to have development delays and cognitive delays. He had sensory processing disorder, he had eczema, he had gastro-intestinal issues.” Ashley goes on to explain that their current pediatrician has determined that her son has a specific genetic marker that makes him more susceptible to adverse reactions to vaccines, and has recommended to be cautious in giving her son any more vaccines.

    Read full story…
    https://community.healthimpactnews.com/topic/4076/idaho-toxicologist-reveals-censorship-of-vaccine-science-in-cbs-interview-that-never-aired-watch-it-here/2

    Medical Doctor and Mother Relates How Vaccines Killed her 6 Month Old Baby Daughter

    The VAXXED team recently interviewed Dr. Stephanie Christner of Tulsa, Oklahoma, who is a primary care physician and psychiatrist who was pro-vaccine until her baby daughter died of vaccine injuries just shy of her 6 month old birth date. When she was pregnant with her daughter, she had two friends who questioned vaccines, and listened to them non-judgmentally. But when she went to the CDC website to research vaccines, and then talked to her pediatrician, her pediatrician basically told her she could not stay in his practice if she did not get her baby daughter vaccinated. She states that in her own medical training virtually nothing is taught about the science behind the manufacturing of vaccines, and that during her residency she was just expected to vaccinate everyone, and that if there were any complications after administering the vaccines, no one would ever associate the problem with the vaccine. Both of her sons, born prior to her daughter, were vaccinated, and experienced developmental delays and allergies. Her baby daughter was not vaccinated in the hospital when she was born, and was perfectly healthy the first couple of months. When she received her two month old vaccinations, things began to change. But she was still in denial at that time, not linking her daughter’s health problems to the vaccines. As her baby’s health continued to decline, she continued with the vaccine schedule. She died before she reached 6 months old. Up until this time, she still did not suspect any relationship to vaccines. She states: “I feel like every mother in the world, that you can’t possibly imagine – I was so naive – I thought that there was really no way that we would ever give something to our most precious, precious, thing in the world, our children… that would be harmful and that wasn’t (fully) studied.” She sees things differently now, and realizes that many people have their eyes closed. She believes that most pediatricians would change their views on vaccines if they would bother to do the research that she has done.

    Read More…
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2017/medical-doctor-and-mother-relates-how-vaccines-killed-her-6-month-old-baby-daughter/

    Gun control vs MEDICATION control: FDA-approved prescription drugs kill more Americans each day than the entire casualty count from the Las Vegas Mandalay massacre
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-03-gun-control-vs-medication-control-fda-approved-prescription-drugs-kill-more-american-each-day-than-the-entire-casualty-count-from-the-las-vegas-mandalay-massacre.html

  • You are the real CRANK, and you are the REAL QUACK. When are you going to face that? I asked you before, if you are a real MD, where do you practice? You are nothing but a shillary quackster, a fraud, and a pharma troll.

  • What is a Reportable Death? Your directly irrelevant response is again nothing but trash. You think you have actual answers and that only within the shear insanity and the madness of your own mind. Can you even say it? The single term that is associated with you here is complete, denial.

  • Dr Wegner? And you actually assume that those kind of in denial and quackery filled replies, come for a doctor? Where does he practice, and I would ask you as well, how many multiple accounts do you have here?

  • And your idiotic point is what? You have none.

  • Common sense should answer your questions, but you have none. How about if you just simply wake up to your own existing pharma directed brainwashing?

  • I have been 47 years now without any vaccines, and 25 years antivaccine, and you want to call me a pro-vaxxer. Vivisection is the least of the imported risk issues with and in regard to vaccines. You are causing a diversion away from the real issues, and that puts to question again the issue of you being controlled opposition. You should know what that is.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You should get help, Mr Hubbs.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    In this case proof is absolutely needed and is sorely lacking.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    It’s been 3 days Mr Hubbs.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Fascinating.

  • Kevin Williams

    The only questions I have asked are “what are your qualifications” and “what data do you have to support your opinions.” Since you continue to respond only with ad hominem attacks, my common sense tells me the answers are “none” and “none.”

    I’m finished replying to your non-responses. However, should you post some actual data to support your position, I’ll take a look. I’m not holding my breath.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    We’re obviously not on the same level here, Mr Hubbs. Even leading you by the nose through relatively simple concepts just doesn’t seem to ring any bells in your head.

  • Kevin Williams

    As opposed to the deflections and ad hominem attacks that come from you?

    For the record, this is the only Disqus account I have.

  • guest

    You can add this to your comment:

    How ‘Measles Virus’ is isolated for a Vaccine.
    by Janine Roberts
    Monday, 18 August 2008 01:37

    extract from her book Fear of the Invisible

    In an online paper entitled ‘Isolation and Identification of Measles Virus in
    Cell Culture,’ the CDC, the central Health Research authority of the USA, lays
    out how isolation of this virus should be done so it can be used, say for a
    vaccine. It instructs, first obtain from the patient a small sample of urine or
    fluid from the nose or mouth.

    Next ‘sacrifice’ a marmoset monkey, take some of its cells, then make these
    cancerous, perhaps by exposing them to radiation, and then give them, on top of this, Epstein-Barr disease! Such extremely sick cells, the CDC informs us, are ‘10,000 times’ more sensitive to the measles virus than are normal human cells.

    Now add to these cells a toxin called trypsin. The CDC tells us to expect some
    cells to fall off the sides of the vessel as if they have been poisoned. They
    have been. Now add nutrients and glucose and leave for two or three days so the cells can somewhat recover.

    Now add to the cells the sample gathered from the patient. After an hour,
    inspect the cells in the culture with a microscope to see if any of the cells
    are becoming distorted, or are floating free as they did when trypsin was added. If they are, the CDC says this is proof that measles virus is present and making the cells ill.

    This statement made me sit back and think. Why should this illness now be caused by a virus? They had poisoned the cells, made them cancerous….. and now the CDC was saying the cells must be ill because they had measles. Where was the logic in this?

    The next stage involves the addition of two antibiotics, Penicillin and
    Streptomycin, to the culture and leaving it alone for a day. Again the cells are
    inspected – and if small holes now appear between cells, it is now presumed that measles virus has caused these. If no sign of such damage, this process is repeated. If after this there are still no signs of damage, then the culture is
    discarded. However, if 50% or more of the cells are now seriously ill and
    distorted, the culture is set aside and kept in the fridge as
    ‘isolated measles virus stock suitable for vaccines!’ All this without actually detecting the virus itself!

    This is the whole process as recommended by the CDC. There is no mention of the need to have a control culture, no mention of any need to isolate the measles virus or even to see it with an electron microscope. The cells are poisoned – and an unseen measles virus is blamed – even thou’ the disease the cells have is totally unlike measles. Where is the logic in this?

    What they call measles virus is in effect the fluid in this poisoned cell
    culture.

    Source document – CDC. Isolation and Identification of Measles Virus in Culture, Revised November 29, 2001.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    It’s funny but I can’t find that CDC paper. The excerpt from the book is on whale, though, which says a lot. Janine Roberts had no science background and was a staunch anti-vaxxer and HIV denialist. She actually denied germ theory altogether.

  • I did not state that you are pro-vaccine. It is your knee-jerk reaction to what I presented (instead of looking into it) that looks very similar to the response of someone who doesn’t know about vaccines, but staunchly defends them anyway. You think that this has no important risk issues, but it does, and it also has a great deal to do with how our insensitivity to one atrocity spills over into another. Far from being controlled opposition, I have even more conflict with them than you do.

    Not only are vaccines a direct product of vivisection; both the “testing” and the ingredients (starting with the first injections of cow pus, and continuing with the current cow’s blood, mouse brains, monkey and dog kidneys, etc),
    vivisection is the hub around which thousands upon thousands of harmful and deadly products and procedures are unleashed on people.

    I discovered this early in life because when I saw the first photos of vivisection, I knew it was wrong. In fact, it turned my stomach. I wanted to see the proof of what I knew in my heart – that people who are able to deliberately torture living beings, while telling us they are helping us in the process, are not healers, but something evil. And you can’t obtain good out of evil. I did ultimately find the proof that my feelings were correct. Many doctors and scientists have warned us about it, but evil has the power and the money to drown their voices out.

  • ascienceguy

    The ignorance and the lack of effort in trying to understand the science is really starting to pile up now. TL;DR–editorialized half-truths and partial pastings of anti-vaccine propaganda snippets are quite distinct from the practice of science and not understanding something scientific is not license to just make up reactionary conclusions.

    You’ll notice in the title of the 2001 CDC document that it says “Isolation and Identification”, not purification and characterization of measles virus and nowhere in the text is vaccine even mentioned.

    If you look at the 2007 revised CDC document, you’ll see that the isolation of measles virus is part of diagnosis together with specific blood tests for measles-specific antibodies and specific detection of measles RNA by RT-PCR. ‘Vaccine’ is only mentioned in these documents with respect to using genetic testing to differentiate a wild measles virus from the vaccine strain.

    https://www.cdc.gov/measles/lab-tools/who-lab-manual.html
    http://www.who.int/ihr/elibrary/manual_diagn_lab_mea_rub_en.pdf
    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/surv-manual/appx/appendix07-meas-vi.pdf

    So it’s not some poisoned cell culture from poisoned cells and poisoned urine or fluid from the nose or mouth (how would someone walk into the doctor’s office with a poisoned nose or mouth anyway?), but rather it is measles virus that contains measles proteins (which are recognized in the measles blood tests) and measles RNA (detected by the RT-PCR technique and subjected to sequencing if desired) and that induces a very characteristic change in the host cells when viewed under the microscope.

    And trypsin isn’t a poison, either, it is a natural enzyme found in the digestive system and easily purchased as part of digestive aid supplements.

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/473611-sources-of-trypsin/
    https://www.amazon.com/American-Biologics-Inf-Zyme-Tablets-Count/dp/B002HYMMGM/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1507241843&sr=8-3&keywords=trypsin

    As for the marmoset business, do you really think it is practical for all of the medical labs that analyze specimens to have a marmoset or two standing by for testing in case of a measles outbreak? If your internet is the same as mine, you would find that a marmoset was used in 1972 to establish a cell line (not cancer cells) for the growth of measles virus specimens (http://www.pnas.org/content/69/2/383.short) and that line was adapted to be more practical for virus growth from clinical specimens in 1990 (http://jvi.asm.org/content/64/2/700.short). The WHO manual and the CDC appendix07 above even recommend using a newer cell line as not to expose laboratory workers to cells containing Epstein Barr Virus.

    Once you start talking about using a clinical isolate of a virus as a vaccine, you’re enter into a huge realm of FDA guidelines so that the vaccine doesn’t contain other viruses or even multiple strains of the same virus (yes, polio and influenza vaccines contain multiple strains but each each strain is grown separately, quality controlled, and then combined into the final vaccine). People may get hung up below on the FDA term “Guidance”, but know they use that term since every virus is different and the science and specific controls have to be spelled out for each vaccine prior to even the first phase of clinical testing in people. I’m sure a lot of readers knee-jerked to the mention of the FDA as a people maiming co-conspirator of big pharma, but for those who are truly curious or want to know, this page is a good jumping off point into the regulatory hurtles that need to be jumped for getting a new vaccine into human testing and then on the market:

    https://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm205541.htm

  • guest

    Try reading:
    Fear of the Invisible By Janine Roberts.
    The paper is in there and other CDC documents.

    When you finish you can read:
    The Vaccine Papers by the same author.

  • ascienceguy

    I guess Augustina didn’t like my comments with the real information and current links that explain all of this and deleted them, but just know that Hilleman developed those vaccines in the 50’s and 60’s and that the landscape at the FDA and with Institutional Review Boards is far different for new vaccines now than it was 50 – 60 years ago.

  • guest

    If you read Fear of the Invisible and heard Dr. Hilleman’s interview on the Polio Vaccine he states that vaccine science is crude and hasn’t changed. He characterized it as

    Vaccine pioneer admits adding cancer-causing virus to Vaccine
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13QiSV_lrDQ
    Dr Maurice Hilleman: and I think that vaccines have to be considered the bargain basement technology for the 20th century.

    From “Fear of the Invisible”:
    Dr Minor, the UK’s top vaccine safety officer, then added: ‘So even today then you have to bear in mind that a large amount of vaccine that’s made is made on really quite crude materials, from an adventitious agent point of view. It’s not a trivial usage. In fact, when consider what vaccines are actually made on these days, they are quite primitive in some respects.’

    Vaccines manufacturing techniques may be high tech but the ingredients are still quite crude.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    It’s amazing how someone with such promise can end up so whacked out later in life.

  • guest

    Discredit the information rather than disparage the person who has provided it. Doing otherwise just make you look small.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Well I can’t find her CDC paper so maybe you can link it.

  • guest

    The paper has been online for a number of years. It may have been moved or removed. I have it archived in a file. The paper and other information is in her book:”Fear of the Invisible”.

    That would be a better source so you can follow the chronology of her investigations and reportings over the decade. If you are interested in insights into the vaccine industry and the people who created them-than I suggest the book(s) to keep everything in proper context. I was not aware that WHALE had a posting. I thought WHALE had gone dark.

  • Lets here some more of your BULLSHIT. I have been studying the risks of vaccines for the past eight years. The ignorance level in the horse $#^t you reply with is exactly that. You better get on the same and the right page here and stop attempting to chastise me with your false and twisted claims against me.

    Vaccine Ingredients and Manufacturer Information
    (alphabetical order by vaccine)
    https://vaccines.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=005206

    WAVE-Vaccine Ingredients
    http://novaccine.com/

    Harmful Ingredients in Vaccines
    Vaccine Ingredients Given to Small Children

    Amount of aluminum adjuavnt in vaccines per dose

    Pneumococcal vaccine 0.125 mg
    • Diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis (DTaP) vaccine– 0.17-0.625 mg
    • Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) vaccine– 0.225 mg
    • Hib/Hep B vaccine 0.225 mg
    • Hep A vaccine (for children) 0.225-0.25 mg
    • Hepatitis B vaccine (Hep B) 0.225-0.5 mg
    • Hep A/ Hep B vaccine 0.45 mg
    • DTaP/inactivated polio/ Hep B vaccine 0.85 mg
    • DTaP/inactivated polio/Hib vaccine 0.33 mg
    • Human Papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine 0.225 mg-0.500 mg

    In the first 6 years of life your child potentially receives the following:

    • 17,500 mcg 2-phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)

    • 5,700 mcg aluminum (a known neurotoxin)

    • Unknown amounts of fetal bovine serum (aborted cow blood)

    • 801.6 mcg formaldehyde (carcinogen, embalming agent)

    • 23,250 mcg gelatin (ground up animal carcasses)

    • 500 mcg human albumin (human blood)

    • 760 mcg of monosodium L-glutamate (causes obesity & diabetis)

    • Unknown amounts of MRC-5 cells (aborted human babies)

    • Over 10 mcg neomycin (antibiotic)

    • Over 0.075 mcg polymyxin B (antibiotic)

    • Over 560 mcg polysorbate 80 (carcinogen)

    • 116 mcg potassium chloride (used in lethal injection to shut down the heart and stop breathing)

    • 188 mcg potassium phosphate (liquid fertilizer agent)

    • 260 mcg sodium bicarbonate (baking soda)

    • 70 mcg sodium borate (Borax, used for cockroach control)

    • 54,100 mcg of sodium chloride (table salt)

    • Unknown amounts of sodium citrate (food additive)

    • Unknown amounts of sodium hydroxide (Danger! Corrosive)

    • 2,800 mcg sodium phosphate (toxic to any organism)

    • Unknown amounts of sodium phosphate monobasic monohydrate (toxic to any organism)

    • 32,000 mcg sorbitol (Not to be injected)

    • 0.6 mcg streptomycin (antibiotic)

    • Over 40,000 mcg sucrose (cane sugar)

    • 35,000 mcg yeast protein (fungus)

    • 5,000 mcg urea (metabolic waste from human urine)

    • Other chemical residuals

    (From the book, “What The Pharmaceutical Companies Don’t Want You To Know About Vaccines” – By Dr Todd M. Elsner)

    TOXIC INGREDIENTS FOUND IN VACCINES

    aluminum hydroxide
    aluminum phosphate
    ammonium sulfate
    amphotericin B
    animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain, dog kidney, monkey kidney, chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg, calf (bovine) serum
    betapropiolactone
    fetal bovine serum
    formaldehyde
    formalin
    gelatin
    glycerol
    human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
    hydrolized gelatin
    mercury thimerosol (thimerosal, Merthiolate)
    monosodium glutamate (MSG)
    neomycin
    neomycin sulfate
    phenol red indicator
    phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
    potassiumdiphosphate
    potassium monophosphate
    polymyxin B
    polysorbate 20
    polysorbate 80
    porcine (pig) pancreatichydrolysate of casein
    residual MRC5 proteins
    sorbitol
    tri(n)butylphosphate
    VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
    washed sheep red blood

    Shedding-ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY-TWO (and counting) scientific studies on vaccines and SHEDDING:
    http://medscienceresearch.com/shedding/

    Recently Vaccinated Shedding and Injuring Others
    http://medscienceresearch.com/recently-vaccinated-shedding-and-injuring-others/

    Database:
    http://medscienceresearch.com/

    Aluminum – The Unapproved Toxin in Vaccines aluminum adjuvants, several of the vaccines included on the adolescent vaccine checklist include aluminum. The new Gardasil 9 vaccine, for instance, has 500 mcg of aluminum in each of the two doses. The vaccines for hepatitis and meningococcal Group B also contain aluminum adjuvants, as does the Tdap booster shot. While these ingredients are listed on the FDA website, information distributed to patients often does not include this. New formula of the HPV vaccine, Gardasil 9, has more than DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF ALUMINUM ADJUVANT
    in each dose than the previous formula New formula of the HPV vaccine, Gardasil 9, has more than DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF ALUMINUM ADJUVANT in each dose than the previous formula Aluminum, in any amount, is a known toxin that has been proven to cross the blood-brain barrier and to be linked to autoimmune diseases in prone individuals. Currently, there is no testing to determine which children may be prone to acquiring Autoimmune Syndrome Induced by Adjuvant (ASIA) or at what levels or frequency of exposure to aluminum in vaccines this may occur. While there are currently no clinically approved.

    Old Formula
    (Gardasil)
    New Formula
    (Gardasil 9)
    225mcg Aluminum adjuvant/dose
    2-3 recommended doses
    Total Aluminum exposure = 650 – 825mcg

    New Formula
    (Gardasil 9)
    225mcg Aluminum adjuvant/dose
    2-3 recommended doses
    Total Aluminum exposure = 650 – 825mcg
    500mcg Aluminum adjuvant/dose
    2-3 recommended doses
    Total Aluminum exposure = 1000 – 1500mcg

    Both meningococcal and HPV vaccines are recommended by the CDC, but during the trials, Menactra (one of the major meningococcal vaccines) and Gardasil were never evaluated for safety when both were given simultaneously. The National Vaccine Information Center conducted their own research and discovered an increased risk of certain serious side effects. When Gardasil and Menactra were given to a patient on the same day: Respiratory problem reports increased by 114 percent Cardiac problem reports increased by 118 percent Neuromuscular and coordination problem reports increased by 234 percent Convulsions and central nervous system problem reports increased by 301 percent Reports of injuries from falls after unconsciousness increased by 674 percent.

    http://info.cmsri.org/hubfs/Content%20Offerings/Teenage%20Immunization%20Journal-Final.pdf?t=1502385349475

    Front Neurol. 2015; 6: 4.
    Published online 2015 Feb 5.
    PMCID: PMC4318414
    Biopersistence and Brain Translocation of Aluminum Adjuvants of Vaccines
    Romain Kroum Gherardi,1,* Housam Eidi,1 Guillemette Crépeaux,1 François Jerome Authier,1 and Josette Cadusseau1

    1Faculté de Médecine and Faculté des Sciences et Technologie, INSERM U955 Team 10, Université Paris Est-Créteil, Créteil, France
    Edited by: Lucija Tomljenovic, University of British Columbia, Canada

    Reviewed by: Samir Kumar-Singh, Antwerp University, Belgium; Mark P. Burns, Georgetown University Medical Center, USA; Lucija Tomljenovic, University of British Columbia, Canada
    *Correspondence: Romain Kroum Gherardi, Faculté de Médecine and Faculté des Sciences et Technologie, INSERM U955 Team 10, Université Paris Est-Créteil, 8 rue du Général Sarrail, Créteil 9410, France

    Abstract
    Aluminum oxyhydroxide (alum) is a crystalline compound widely used as an immunological adjuvant of vaccines. Concerns linked to the use of alum particles emerged following recognition of their causative role in the so-called macrophagic myofasciitis (MMF) lesion detected in patients with myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue/syndrome. MMF revealed an unexpectedly long-lasting biopersistence of alum within immune cells in presumably susceptible individuals, stressing the previous fundamental misconception of its biodisposition. We previously showed that poorly biodegradable aluminum-coated particles injected into muscle are promptly phagocytosed in muscle and the draining lymph nodes, and can disseminate within phagocytic cells throughout the body and slowly accumulate in brain. This strongly suggests that long-term adjuvant biopersistence within phagocytic cells is a prerequisite for slow brain translocation and delayed neurotoxicity. The understanding of basic mechanisms of particle biopersistence and brain translocation represents a major health challenge, since it could help to define susceptibility factors to develop chronic neurotoxic damage. Biopersistence of alum may be linked to its lysosome-destabilizing effect, which is likely due to direct crystal-induced rupture of phagolysosomal membranes. Macrophages that continuously perceive foreign particles in their cytosol will likely reiterate, with variable interindividual efficiency, a dedicated form of autophagy (xenophagy) until they dispose of alien materials. Successful compartmentalization of particles within double membrane autophagosomes and subsequent fusion with repaired and re-acidified lysosomes will expose alum to lysosomal acidic pH, the sole factor that can solubilize alum particles. Brain translocation of alum particles is linked to a Trojan horse mechanism previously described for infectious particles (HIV, HCV), that obeys to CCL2, signaling the major inflammatory monocyte chemoattractant.

    Full study:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4318414/#!po=0.370370

    Harmful Ingredients in Vaccines
    http://dangersofvaccines.com/harmful-ingredients-vaccines/

    Vaccine Ingredients – How Vaccines Are Made – Which Ingredients Are the Most Toxic
    http://www.drgreenmom.com/vaccines/vaccine-ingredients/

    Dirty Vaccines: New Study Reveals Prevalence of Contaminants
    http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/dirty-vaccines-new-study-reveals-prevalence-of-contaminants

    Dirty Vaccines – Part Two: What the Industry Knows and Isn’t Telling You
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/dirty-vaccines-part-two-what-industry-knows-and-isnt-telling-you

    Little Things Matter: The Impact of Toxins on the Developing Brain
    Canadian Environmental Health Atlas

    We’ve been studying the impact of toxins on children for the past 30 years and reached the inescapable conclusion: little things matter. We’ve discovered that extremely low levels of toxins can impact brain development. We have also discovered that subtle shifts in the intellectual abilities of individual children have a big impact on the number of children in a population that are challenged or gifted. Steps should be taken to reduce children’s exposure to toxins or suspected toxins. You can read more about how toxins impact brain development and the supportive documentation for this video here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6KoMAbz1Bw

    VRM: Vaccines Do Contain Aborted Human Fetal Tissue

    Human Diploid Cells (aborted fetal tissue) provide the “Cell culture” in which vaccine formulas are often grown or nurtured. Current vaccines in circulation which contain aborted fetal tissue include:

    1. Polio vaccine (inactivated/IPV) & Oral Polio (live virus) drops
    2. Measles, Mumps, Rubella vaccine/MMR (Rubella component)
    3. Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Poliomyelitis vaccine (DTaP/TdP)
    4. Varicella (Chickenpox) vaccine & Shingles (zoster) vaccine
    5. Hepatitis A vaccine
    6. Rabies vaccine

    ‘Some vaccines—rubella, HepA, RAB-HDC, VAR, ZOS, and one form of IPV (the Poliovax contained in Pentacel)—are grown in cultured human embryo fibroblast cell lines (WI-38 or MRC-5) because these are the only cells that replicate the viruses in high enough titer for mass production (the rubella vaccine strain itself was originally isolated from an aborted fetus with intrauterine infection).‘ Monthly Prescribing Reference (MPR) – Medical Industry Reference Journal

    ‘Today, more than 23 vaccines are contaminated by the use of aborted fetal cells. There is no law that requires that consumers be informed that some vaccines are made using aborted fetal cells and contain residual aborted fetal DNA. While newer vaccines produced using aborted fetal cells do inform consumers, in their package inserts, that the vaccines contain contaminating DNA from the cell used to produce the vaccine, they do not identify the cells as being derived from electively aborted human fetuses.‘ Dr. Theresa A. Deisher, Ph.D.

    Read more:
    http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/?p=13685

    How many parents know that vaccines have been made using aborted fetal cells, which are more like stem cells, and that in the creation of vaccine antigens. Do you think there is any problem in, and with that? It is again all proven with the pharma clinical trials and previously done scientific studies to be entirely safe and effective; and so you would suppose and expect; right? The fact is that none of it has been tested for safety, and obviously they have not tested even as much as if or not serious levels of DNA residual fragments contamination exist in those vaccines. They simply lie to the public at the CDC and with unproven false assurances, and which are made by what are clearly, falsely assumed authorities.

    Dr Theresa Deisher – Worldwide Autism Epidemic & Human Fetal Manufactured Contaminated Vaccines
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bc6WX33SuE

    Studies
    http://soundchoice.org/autism/

    Publications
    http://soundchoice.org/autism/autism-research/

  • And still you can not form an argument based on anything at all and much more based on any facts. You lose every time and only to create more of your twisted and in denial, sickness.

  • Obviously you can see here that I have responded with far more evidence of the facts than you ever have and/or that you ever will.

  • Where is your PROOF that multiple vaccines injected into a small child, are safe? Five and up to nine of more injected vaccines in a single day and office visit. Get started.

    Vaccine Ingredients and Manufacturer Information
    (alphabetical order by vaccine)
    https://vaccines.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=005206

    WAVE-Vaccine Ingredients
    http://novaccine.com/

    Harmful Ingredients in Vaccines
    Vaccine Ingredients Given to Small Children

    Amount of aluminum adjuavnt in vaccines per dose

    Pneumococcal vaccine 0.125 mg
    • Diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis (DTaP) vaccine– 0.17-0.625 mg
    • Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) vaccine– 0.225 mg
    • Hib/Hep B vaccine 0.225 mg
    • Hep A vaccine (for children) 0.225-0.25 mg
    • Hepatitis B vaccine (Hep B) 0.225-0.5 mg
    • Hep A/ Hep B vaccine 0.45 mg
    • DTaP/inactivated polio/ Hep B vaccine 0.85 mg
    • DTaP/inactivated polio/Hib vaccine 0.33 mg
    • Human Papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine 0.225 mg-0.500 mg

    In the first 6 years of life your child potentially receives the following:

    • 17,500 mcg 2-phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)

    • 5,700 mcg aluminum (a known neurotoxin)

    • Unknown amounts of fetal bovine serum (aborted cow blood)

    • 801.6 mcg formaldehyde (carcinogen, embalming agent)

    • 23,250 mcg gelatin (ground up animal carcasses)

    • 500 mcg human albumin (human blood)

    • 760 mcg of monosodium L-glutamate (causes obesity & diabetis)

    • Unknown amounts of MRC-5 cells (aborted human babies)

    • Over 10 mcg neomycin (antibiotic)

    • Over 0.075 mcg polymyxin B (antibiotic)

    • Over 560 mcg polysorbate 80 (carcinogen)

    • 116 mcg potassium chloride (used in lethal injection to shut down the heart and stop breathing)

    • 188 mcg potassium phosphate (liquid fertilizer agent)

    • 260 mcg sodium bicarbonate (baking soda)

    • 70 mcg sodium borate (Borax, used for cockroach control)

    • 54,100 mcg of sodium chloride (table salt)

    • Unknown amounts of sodium citrate (food additive)

    • Unknown amounts of sodium hydroxide (Danger! Corrosive)

    • 2,800 mcg sodium phosphate (toxic to any organism)

    • Unknown amounts of sodium phosphate monobasic monohydrate (toxic to any organism)

    • 32,000 mcg sorbitol (Not to be injected)

    • 0.6 mcg streptomycin (antibiotic)

    • Over 40,000 mcg sucrose (cane sugar)

    • 35,000 mcg yeast protein (fungus)

    • 5,000 mcg urea (metabolic waste from human urine)

    • Other chemical residuals

    (From the book, “What The Pharmaceutical Companies Don’t Want You To Know About Vaccines” – By Dr Todd M. Elsner)

    TOXIC INGREDIENTS FOUND IN VACCINES

    aluminum hydroxide
    aluminum phosphate
    ammonium sulfate
    amphotericin B
    animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain, dog kidney, monkey kidney, chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg, calf (bovine) serum
    betapropiolactone
    fetal bovine serum
    formaldehyde
    formalin
    gelatin
    glycerol
    human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
    hydrolized gelatin
    mercury thimerosol (thimerosal, Merthiolate)
    monosodium glutamate (MSG)
    neomycin
    neomycin sulfate
    phenol red indicator
    phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
    potassiumdiphosphate
    potassium monophosphate
    polymyxin B
    polysorbate 20
    polysorbate 80
    porcine (pig) pancreatichydrolysate of casein
    residual MRC5 proteins
    sorbitol
    tri(n)butylphosphate
    VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
    washed sheep red blood

    Shedding-ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY-TWO (and counting) scientific studies on vaccines and SHEDDING:
    http://medscienceresearch.com/shedding/

    Recently Vaccinated Shedding and Injuring Others
    http://medscienceresearch.com/recently-vaccinated-shedding-and-injuring-others/

    Database:
    http://medscienceresearch.com/

    Aluminum – The Unapproved Toxin in Vaccines aluminum adjuvants, several of the vaccines included on the adolescent vaccine checklist include aluminum. The new Gardasil 9 vaccine, for instance, has 500 mcg of aluminum in each of the two doses. The vaccines for hepatitis and meningococcal Group B also contain aluminum adjuvants, as does the Tdap booster shot. While these ingredients are listed on the FDA website, information distributed to patients often does not include this. New formula of the HPV vaccine, Gardasil 9, has more than DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF ALUMINUM ADJUVANT
    in each dose than the previous formula New formula of the HPV vaccine, Gardasil 9, has more than DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF ALUMINUM ADJUVANT in each dose than the previous formula Aluminum, in any amount, is a known toxin that has been proven to cross the blood-brain barrier and to be linked to autoimmune diseases in prone individuals. Currently, there is no testing to determine which children may be prone to acquiring Autoimmune Syndrome Induced by Adjuvant (ASIA) or at what levels or frequency of exposure to aluminum in vaccines this may occur. While there are currently no clinically approved.

    Old Formula
    (Gardasil)
    New Formula
    (Gardasil 9)
    225mcg Aluminum adjuvant/dose
    2-3 recommended doses
    Total Aluminum exposure = 650 – 825mcg

    New Formula
    (Gardasil 9)
    225mcg Aluminum adjuvant/dose
    2-3 recommended doses
    Total Aluminum exposure = 650 – 825mcg
    500mcg Aluminum adjuvant/dose
    2-3 recommended doses
    Total Aluminum exposure = 1000 – 1500mcg

    Both meningococcal and HPV vaccines are recommended by the CDC, but during the trials, Menactra (one of the major meningococcal vaccines) and Gardasil were never evaluated for safety when both were given simultaneously. The National Vaccine Information Center conducted their own research and discovered an increased risk of certain serious side effects. When Gardasil and Menactra were given to a patient on the same day: Respiratory problem reports increased by 114 percent Cardiac problem reports increased by 118 percent Neuromuscular and coordination problem reports increased by 234 percent Convulsions and central nervous system problem reports increased by 301 percent Reports of injuries from falls after unconsciousness increased by 674 percent.

    http://info.cmsri.org/hubfs/Content%20Offerings/Teenage%20Immunization%20Journal-Final.pdf?t=1502385349475

    Front Neurol. 2015; 6: 4.
    Published online 2015 Feb 5.
    PMCID: PMC4318414
    Biopersistence and Brain Translocation of Aluminum Adjuvants of Vaccines
    Romain Kroum Gherardi,1,* Housam Eidi,1 Guillemette Crépeaux,1 François Jerome Authier,1 and Josette Cadusseau1

    1Faculté de Médecine and Faculté des Sciences et Technologie, INSERM U955 Team 10, Université Paris Est-Créteil, Créteil, France
    Edited by: Lucija Tomljenovic, University of British Columbia, Canada

    Reviewed by: Samir Kumar-Singh, Antwerp University, Belgium; Mark P. Burns, Georgetown University Medical Center, USA; Lucija Tomljenovic, University of British Columbia, Canada
    *Correspondence: Romain Kroum Gherardi, Faculté de Médecine and Faculté des Sciences et Technologie, INSERM U955 Team 10, Université Paris Est-Créteil, 8 rue du Général Sarrail, Créteil 9410, France

    Abstract
    Aluminum oxyhydroxide (alum) is a crystalline compound widely used as an immunological adjuvant of vaccines. Concerns linked to the use of alum particles emerged following recognition of their causative role in the so-called macrophagic myofasciitis (MMF) lesion detected in patients with myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue/syndrome. MMF revealed an unexpectedly long-lasting biopersistence of alum within immune cells in presumably susceptible individuals, stressing the previous fundamental misconception of its biodisposition. We previously showed that poorly biodegradable aluminum-coated particles injected into muscle are promptly phagocytosed in muscle and the draining lymph nodes, and can disseminate within phagocytic cells throughout the body and slowly accumulate in brain. This strongly suggests that long-term adjuvant biopersistence within phagocytic cells is a prerequisite for slow brain translocation and delayed neurotoxicity. The understanding of basic mechanisms of particle biopersistence and brain translocation represents a major health challenge, since it could help to define susceptibility factors to develop chronic neurotoxic damage. Biopersistence of alum may be linked to its lysosome-destabilizing effect, which is likely due to direct crystal-induced rupture of phagolysosomal membranes. Macrophages that continuously perceive foreign particles in their cytosol will likely reiterate, with variable interindividual efficiency, a dedicated form of autophagy (xenophagy) until they dispose of alien materials. Successful compartmentalization of particles within double membrane autophagosomes and subsequent fusion with repaired and re-acidified lysosomes will expose alum to lysosomal acidic pH, the sole factor that can solubilize alum particles. Brain translocation of alum particles is linked to a Trojan horse mechanism previously described for infectious particles (HIV, HCV), that obeys to CCL2, signaling the major inflammatory monocyte chemoattractant.

    Full study:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4318414/#!po=0.370370

    Harmful Ingredients in Vaccines
    http://dangersofvaccines.com/harmful-ingredients-vaccines/

    Vaccine Ingredients – How Vaccines Are Made – Which Ingredients Are the Most Toxic
    http://www.drgreenmom.com/vaccines/vaccine-ingredients/

    Dirty Vaccines: New Study Reveals Prevalence of Contaminants
    http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/dirty-vaccines-new-study-reveals-prevalence-of-contaminants

    Dirty Vaccines – Part Two: What the Industry Knows and Isn’t Telling You
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/dirty-vaccines-part-two-what-industry-knows-and-isnt-telling-you

    Little Things Matter: The Impact of Toxins on the Developing Brain
    Canadian Environmental Health Atlas

    We’ve been studying the impact of toxins on children for the past 30 years and reached the inescapable conclusion: little things matter. We’ve discovered that extremely low levels of toxins can impact brain development. We have also discovered that subtle shifts in the intellectual abilities of individual children have a big impact on the number of children in a population that are challenged or gifted. Steps should be taken to reduce children’s exposure to toxins or suspected toxins. You can read more about how toxins impact brain development and the supportive documentation for this video here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6KoMAbz1Bw

  • Standard and sick response from a pharma shill that has nothing left to respond with. Perhaps you should seek some help for your destructive level of willful and persistent ignorance. Infants are dying after vaccines and massive numbers of children have had their health destroyed by now no liability vaccines. The level of stupidity and pharma brainwashing within your mind, simply is not productive within the realm of physiologically based, human health care.

  • Kevin Williams

    You have posted links to biased sites with an agenda to support your strawman arguments, but you have posted nothing that directly refutes my assertion that the estimate of circumcision-related deaths in the U.S. is fatally flawed. The only responses to that have been ad hominem attacks on one of the 6+ co-authors of one of the two studies I cited (with nothing to back up those attacks, by the way), and an article about ritual circumcision in the African bush.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Oh please, you got it from whale. You never read the book either. You don’t have the CDC paper on any file. And there’s no way Janine Roberts put an entire CDC guide from 2001 entitled “Isolation and Identification of Measles Virus in
    Cell Culture” in her stupid book.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Says the guy with nothing but personal attacks to offer.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    I don’t see where in your gish gallop Zackery Tray Rollins III is even mentioned.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Science just isn’t for everyone Mr Hubbs. I’m sure there are online forums on other subjects where you could be relevant. Did you learn welding in trade school perhaps?

  • ascienceguy

    The information you give is outdated. Dr. Hilleman was developing vaccines using the current technology of the mid 20th century and the vaccines were very crude and undefined by today’s 21st century standards.

    Yes, the viral vaccines will still be produced in a host cell in culture, but every aspect of that process is constantly being updated as the technology advances. The cells and the media components are screened for other viruses and the virus seed stocks are sequenced to ensure that there is only one strain of one virus. Currently, a new vaccine can’t be grown from an actual virus (which may be contaminated with other unknown viruses) but rather from the purified virus DNA or RNA that is then introduced into pre-screened cells in an FDA approved Good Manufacturing Practices facility. Cells can be grown in some cases without the serum from animals to eliminate the introduction of other agents like animal viruses. Lastly, the technology for purifying the vaccine virus away from the other components is far superior and the residual amounts of cell constituents and other ingredients have to be measured and below FDA guidelines.

    The FDA meeting document you link to is a testament to all of the scrutiny that goes into the possibility of using a new cell type to propagate vaccines.

  • guest

    Provide independent verifiable documentation that the current vaccine manufacturing process has been upgraded in any meaningful way to substantiate your claim.

    As far as vaccine being purified I recommend you read:
    Fear of the Invisible by Janine Roberts.

    Also The Vaccine Papers.

  • Well, thanks for all the info, but you still just aren’t understanding that I was not criticizing, or questioning, your knowledge of vaccines. I was comparing your reaction (reaction, PERIOD) to the info. about vivisection. It is the same reaction (and nothing else) as someone who doesn’t want to hear about vaccinations.

  • KeyLimeVegan

    Lowell: I love what you have to say on vaccines, except for your citing animal studies. It seems you will not pay attention to what Suki49 is actually saying, how VacTruth has continually cited animal studies to “prove” their points; that we simply want them to stop legitimizing vivisection and only cite human-based evidence and DELETE ALL THEIR VIVISECTION PROMOS; that when they cite animal studies they’re engaging in the same fraud as the other side and not behaving credibly or sanely. Both sides cite animal studies to “prove” their points, and the fact that Andrew Wakefield tinkered with primates means absolutely nothing in regard to humans, except for the fact that humans can be monstrously inhuman far too often, as in caging animals and using them as experimental subjects, unscientifically to boot, since the other side has even more “incontrovertible” animal studies to cite as well. There was of course this animal study fiasco: http://www.newsweek.com/anti-vaxxers-accidentally-fund-study-showing-theres-no-link-between-autism-and-379245
    So, you’d do better to work on getting VacTruth (and Wakefield) to stop and correct the vivisection madness, instead of your fighting with Suki49, or me now. That’s all, plain and simple.

  • ascienceguy

    I’ve read enough of Fear of the Invisible from what was posted above to see that it is indeed fear-mongering using outdated information from the last century. I replied to that post with links to show the real context of which that highly editorialized information was based on and linked to the more recent CDC document and to information on trypsin not being a poison but the post was taken down. There was also a link to the FDA guidelines that detail the current purity requirements for vaccines. An open-access review of advances in vaccine production can be found below. It references organizations from all over the world and below that is an FDA link to their own research projects that are to continue improving manufacturing and safety. The state of New York (last link) also has a good summary with a wide variety of links.
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X17307703/pdfft?md5=1fd73970d243eb6589ac5f1b68da5908&pid=1-s2.0-S0264410X17307703-main.pdf
    https://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/ScienceResearch/BiologicsResearchAreas/ucm124378.htm
    https://www.health.ny.gov/prevention/immunization/vaccine_safety/science.htm

  • NoOne

    FDA never tests for Vaccine Safety. It relies on Vaccine Test data from the vaccine manufactures itself.

  • guest

    I don’t believe you read either of the books: Fear of the Invisible or The Vaccine Papers. Considering all her sources are documented from the CDC/FDA with direct quotes from many of the scientists that were on the ground floor in vaccine science, one stands out Dr. Maurice Hilleman, the remainder of your comment is moot. Vaccine Science hasn’t changed in 100 years. All one need do is look at the Smallpox vaccine which is still being given in third word countries. It’s the same highly reactive dangerously crude product that has not evolved from the time of Edward Jenner. Smallpox vaccine harmed and killed people 100 years ago and it still is the most dangerous vaccine produced. The only thing that has changed in vaccine pseudo science is it’s gone high tech for faster production and the vaccine mediums are constantly changing because the industry knows the mediums they are currently using are toxic. They are now producing vaccine using dog cells, insect cells and cancer cells. Check out Maurice Hilleman discussing using He La cells to grow vaccine on and how they got out of control.

    The vaccine industry in a multi-billion dollar industry and it’s science is bought and paid and that’s being exposed more and more. Look at the Food Industry and how scientists are paid to write studies that say Coke is a healthy snack food. Look at how the GMO scientist were busted for writing research papers that said GMO’s are safe.

    If you want to dismiss Janine Roberts data and other highly researched material in her book you will need to be specific with INDEPENDENT verifiable unbiased data which dispute what she’s written about. Labeling her as Anti-vac is just a means to dismiss what she wrote because it’s written based on verbatim interviews, meetings and workshops with the world top vaccine people. Many who are still alive today.

  • guest

    From your comment I guess IQ’s have dropped among the medical professionals.

    Stop channeling Miss Cleo. She wasn’t a very good psychic either.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Notice how you refute nothing but resort to personal attacks? All you’ve done is tell a Whale of a Tale.

  • ascienceguy

    No one here ever said they did. They are the governing body.

  • ascienceguy

    Since you’re clearly not reading my posts, this will be my last post for others. Roberts is just outdated and not relevant to the current day. Period. To say vaccine science hasn’t changed in 100 years is flat out wrong and you’re ignoring everything to the contrary that is readily available in the scientific literature and on package inserts even. That’s like saying automobiles haven’t changed in the last 100 years. Even since Hilleman’s time have been the advent of recombinant DNA technology–turning the pertussis vaccine from a killed bacterium with 100s of antigens to just 4 or 5 and allowing for single antigen vaccines like hepatitis B that in no way can be contaminated by the actual virus. That technology wasn’t invented for a decade after Hilleman’s vaccines. Influenza vaccines use ‘production strains’ to increase yields/decrease impurities and influenza vaccines are grown in cell lines too to avoid egg allergies. Also not around in the time Roberts is describing. Lastly, smallpox vaccine is so vastly different in composition and production than Jenner’s: those interested can see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACAM2000. You fail to mention, too, that no one is currently getting even THAT smallpox vaccine.

  • guest

    If you’re using Wikipedia for any rebuttal, it should be your last post. Yes, I read your pot and it’s 40 seconds of my life I will never get back.

  • guest

    Why refute nonsense? It just dignifies it.
    Oh, don’t quit your day job-you’re not as clever as you think.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You simply copy/pasted nonsense from Whale about books you’ve never read and now all you can do is hurl insults. You’re a fraud. And hey, I don’t need my day job either. I’m a reptilian. And not a hybrid – full reptilian.

  • guest

    Not only are your comments paid for, you are posting the same garbage that the radical extremist vaccine nazis have been postings on comment boards for years. Get a new script and maybe you’ll move from the nonsense category to the ridiculous category.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    And now the inevitable pharma shill gambit. Even the Nazi thing! You people are so easy to expose as hacks, and as your façade crumbles it’s always the same response. Talk about needing a new script:)

  • guest

    This more comments you make the more foolish you look. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

  • Kianna Prodzinski

    oh how convenient they just ‘removed’ it from the internet

  • Kianna Prodzinski

    You can’t even provide anything to back up what you’re saying, but you’re calling someone else foolish? Please

  • Kianna Prodzinski

    And they know how to evaluate and make sure it’s thoroughly reviewed to make sure the testing/studies/data were correct. The FDA doesn’t let anything slide.

  • Kianna Prodzinski

    The idea they came up with that we get paid to comment on internet threads by the government never gets old

  • Kianna Prodzinski

    They used Guillan-Barre infected cells because it was a great help to the growth medium. Because it was so sensitive, it posed a possible threat to the SCIENTISTS (NOT the public). For that reason, they switched to a safer yet still effective way of doing it.
    “Sacrifice” a monkey…please. They take the cells from a monkey and obviously they do NOT “make them cancerous”. I’m not even sure how they would do that, and there’s obviously no reason why they would, so a competent person can comprehend that they do not infect the cells with cancer.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    We will vanquish your puny race with vaccines. All hail the Reptilian Overlords!

    Klaatu barada nikto

  • guest

    Be specific please.

  • Kianna Prodzinski

    Your CDC article you continuously refer to. Where is it?

  • guest

    The paper is from November 29, 2001. You can go to the FDA Home Page and search their docket:

    Isolation and Identification of Measles Virus in Culture, Revised November 29, 2001
    https://www.fda.gov/RegulatoryInformation/Dockets/default.htm

    Also research the PDF files at the World Health Organization Measles Lab Manual 2007 Edition. The info was retrieved from these pages. It’s a PFD file so you’re have to read through it. Or you can buy Roberts two books. She has copies of most of the information in The Vaccine Papers and the resources. She also has ext copies from Official CDC/FDA transcripts meetings. The Measles Paper I am referring is in full in the book-The Vaccine Papers.

  • Kianna Prodzinski

    http://www.who.int/ihr/elibrary/manual_diagn_lab_mea_rub_en.pdf

    I think that is what you are looking for. Read the real thing. If you read and comprehend it yourself, then* you are truly doing your own research. Not letting Janine Roberts (a random ‘medical writer and researcher’ with of course NO degrees or education that qualifies her to break the report down and explain it.)

  • guest

    It’s not the same paper. Read the book. I’ve emailed vactruth and asked if I can provide a copy on this site. I don’t know the legalities so I’m waiting to hear from them.

  • guest

    Yada yada yada

  • guest

    Read Janine Roberts Books which has the CDC/FDA transcripts. You want to dismiss Roberts but how many awards have you won? How many books have you written. How many TV programs have you developed? When you have achieved the journalistic integrity and respect that Roberts has, which is why the Vaccine researchers gave her interviews for her book, than I will consider your criticism of her work. Until you can prove your credentials, I’ll continue to research her research.

  • But why can’t I just read/research the CDC and FDA transcripts myself? So I know it’s not biased?
    And I haven’t won any awards unfortunately, and I don’t care if you listen to my criticism….I’m just saying I’m not listening to Roberts

  • So you’re saying there’s more information that the WHO has, but won’t present it to the public, only to Janine Roberts?

  • This one of the most informative and important documents to ever exist in regard to the vaccine harm and injury risks.

    VIA FEDEX
    October 12, 2017

    U.S. Department of Health & Human Services
    HHS Office of the Secretary
    Eric D. Hargan
    Acting Secretary of Health & Human Services
    200 Independence Avenue, S.W.
    Washington, D.C. 20201

    Re: HHS Vaccine Safety Responsibilities and Notice Pursuant to 42 U.S.C. § 300aa-31

    Dear Secretary Hargan:

    Informed Consent Action Network hereby provides notice per 42 U.S.C. § 300aa-31(b). Americans, including the over 55 organizations listed below, whose members exceed 5 million Americans, are concerned about vaccine safety. The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (the 1986 Act) made nearly every aspect of vaccine safety the exclusive responsibility of the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS). As the Secretary of HHS (the Secretary), this means you shoulder virtually all responsibility for assuring the safety of vaccines administered to America’s 78 million children.

    This notice respectfully requests confirmation that certain obligations regarding vaccine safety required under the 1986 Act have been fulfilled or will forthwith be fulfilled. These specific
    requests are numbered sequentially in this notice. We would welcome the opportunity to meet and discuss reasonable means for complying with these requests. If that is not possible, the 1986
    Act authorizes “a civil action … against the Secretary where there is alleged a failure of the Secretary to perform any act or duty” under the 1986 Act.

    I. Background

    The 1986 Act granted economic immunity to pharmaceutical companies for injuries caused by their vaccines. (42 U.S.C. § 300aa-11.) The 1986 Act thereby eliminated the market force which drives safety for all other products – actual and potential product liability. Recognizing the unprecedented elimination of this market force, the 1986 Act makes HHS directly responsible for virtually every aspect of vaccine safety. (42 U.S.C. §§ 300aa-2, 300aa-27.)

    When the CDC recommends a pediatric vaccine for universal use, it creates for that vaccine’s maker a liability free market of 78 million children typically required by law to receive the vaccine. The number of required vaccines has grown rapidly since 1986. In 1983, the CDC recommended that babies under one receive two vaccines: DTP and Polio.1 As of 2017, the CDC recommends that babies under one receive multiple doses of ten vaccines: DTaP, Polio, Hep B, Rotavirus, Hib, Pneumococcal, Influenza, MMR, Varicella, and Hep A.2 In total, the current CDC childhood vaccine schedule includes 56 injections of 73 doses of 30 different vaccines.

    II. Deficiencies in the Pre-Licensure Safety Review of Pediatric Vaccines

    All drugs licensed by the FDA undergo long-term double-blind pre-licensure clinical trials during which the rate of adverse reactions in the group receiving the drug under review is compared to the rate of adverse reactions in a group receiving an inert placebo, such as a sugar pill or saline injection. For example: Enbrel’s pre-licensure trials followed subjects up to 80 months and controls received a saline injection.3 Lipitor’s pre-licensure trials lasted a median of 4.8 years and controls received a sugar pill.4 Botox’s pre-licensure trials lasted a median of 51
    weeks and controls received a saline injection.5 And even with these long-term studies, drugs are still often recalled.

    In contrast, vaccines are not required to undergo long-term double-blind inert-placebo controlled trials to assess safety. In fact, not a single one of the clinical trials for vaccines given to
    babies and toddlers had a control group receiving an inert placebo. Further, most pediatric vaccines currently on the market have been approved based on studies with inadequate followup
    periods of only a few days or weeks.

    For example, of the two Hepatitis B vaccines licensed by the FDA for injection into oneday-old babies, Merck’s was licensed after trials that solicited adverse reactions for only five days
    after vaccination and GlaxoSmithKline’s was licensed after trials that solicited adverse reactions for only four days after vaccination.6 Similarly, the HiB vaccines sold by these same companies were licensed based on trials which solicited adverse reactions for three and four days, respectively, after vaccination.7 The only stand-alone polio vaccine was licensed after a mere 48-hour follow-up period.8

    Very truly yours,
    Del Bigtree

    Read more, of this important and informative document:
    http://icandecide.com/white-papers/ICAN-HHS-Notice.pdf

  • I would rather have them experiment on animals than children. We need both kinds of studies, and they will not do the needed vaccine safety studies on humans. Animal studies can and do present with important information applicable to humans. Many more-so independent studies have shown directly what vaccines do to humans, and they ignore and spite with only more twisted denial, any such studies. All you are doing is dividing the vaccine truth arena with your against so called vivisection re-directive. I am not ignoring anything at all, here.

    One important animal study example dealing this time in vaccine efficacy and which I can site is right here. But you only accept such studies, when they are done on children?

    Acellular pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a nonhuman primate model

    Significance

    Pertussis has reemerged as an important public health concern since current acellular pertussis vaccines (aP) replaced older whole-cell vaccines (wP). In this study, we show nonhuman primates vaccinated with aP were protected from severe symptoms but not infection and readily transmitted Bordetella pertussis to contacts. Vaccination with wP and previous infection induced a more rapid clearance compared with naïve and aP-vaccinated animals. While all groups possessed robust antibody responses, key differences in T-cell memory suggest that aP vaccination induces a suboptimal immune response that is unable to prevent infection. These data provide a plausible explanation for pertussis resurgence and suggest that attaining herd immunity will require the development of improved vaccination strategies that prevent B. pertussis colonization and transmission.

    Abstract
    Pertussis is a highly contagious respiratory illness caused by the bacterial pathogen Bordetella pertussis. Pertussis rates in the United States have been rising and reached a 50-y high of 42,000 cases in 2012. Although pertussis resurgence is not completely understood, we hypothesize that current acellular pertussis (aP) vaccines fail to prevent colonization and transmission. To test our hypothesis, infant baboons were vaccinated at 2, 4, and 6 mo of age with aP or whole-cell pertussis (wP) vaccines and challenged with B. pertussis at 7 mo. Infection was followed by quantifying colonization in nasopharyngeal washes and monitoring leukocytosis and symptoms. Baboons vaccinated with aP were protected from severe pertussis-associated symptoms but not from colonization, did not clear the infection faster than naïve animals, and readily transmitted B. pertussis to unvaccinated contacts. Vaccination with wP induced a more rapid clearance compared with naïve and aP-vaccinated animals. By comparison, previously infected animals were not colonized upon secondary infection. Although all vaccinated and previously infected animals had robust serum antibody responses, we found key differences in T-cell immunity. Previously infected animals and wP-vaccinated animals possess strong B. pertussis-specific T helper 17 (Th17) memory and Th1 memory, whereas aP vaccination induced a Th1/Th2 response instead. The observation that aP, which induces an immune response mismatched to that induced by natural infection, fails to prevent colonization or transmission provides a plausible explanation for the resurgence of pertussis and suggests that optimal control of pertussis will require the development of improved vaccines.

    Read more:
    http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/11/20/1314688110.abstract

    Nonhuman Primate Model of Pertussis

    Our results demonstrate that the baboon provides an excellent model of clinical pertussis that will allow researchers to investigate pertussis pathogenesis and disease progression, evaluate currently licensed vaccines, and develop improved vaccines and therapeutics.

    http://iai.asm.org/content/80/4/1530.full​

    Pertussis Vaccine Study Shatters Illusion of Vaccine-Induced Immunity
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/12/10/whooping-cough-pertussis-vaccine.aspx

    Whooping Cough Vaccine Does Not Work – Says US FDA’s Research
    http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2013/11/28/whooping-cough-vaccine-does-not-work-says-us-fdas-research/

    Whooping Cough Study May Offer Clue on Surge
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/26/health/study-finds-vaccinated-baboons-can-still-carry-whooping-cough.html?smid=fb-share&_r=1&

    A study on mice, and you are against that as well?

    Acellular pertussis vaccination facilitates Bordetella parapertussis infection in a rodent model of bordetellosis
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2880100/

  • That is again just another load of incorrect and obvious bullshit. So you refuse to have animals used as test models for vaccine harm and injury risk, and even mice? Instead, you want it to be children. Needed studies, and as well regarding multiple vaccines; and that they as well within the pro-vax arena, continue to refuse to do.

  • You talk again as if you are some purveyor of the science. When will you understand that places like the CDC and CHOP, do not have anything close to the needed vaccine safety and efficacy studies? When will you face the truth and reality? Actually I was once an electrician and I chose to give it up, and which is my own person business, not yours. Your ability to attempt to create false discreditation really is pathetic. And what are your credentials and where do YOU work? Oh, and conveniently that is of course in your cowardly situation, entirely off the table. You should know by know and realize that doctors actually know nothing about vaccines as to what is in them and how they as a whole physiologically react within the human body. But then if not for your continued delusions, you would have nothing.

    Here is something you should pay some attention to.

    This one of the most informative and important documents to ever exist in regard to the vaccine harm and injury risks.

    VIA FEDEX
    October 12, 2017

    U.S. Department of Health & Human Services
    HHS Office of the Secretary
    Eric D. Hargan
    Acting Secretary of Health & Human Services
    200 Independence Avenue, S.W.
    Washington, D.C. 20201

    Re: HHS Vaccine Safety Responsibilities and Notice Pursuant to 42 U.S.C. § 300aa-31

    Dear Secretary Hargan:

    Informed Consent Action Network hereby provides notice per 42 U.S.C. § 300aa-31(b). Americans, including the over 55 organizations listed below, whose members exceed 5 million Americans, are concerned about vaccine safety. The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 (the 1986 Act) made nearly every aspect of vaccine safety the exclusive responsibility of the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS). As the Secretary of HHS (the Secretary), this means you shoulder virtually all responsibility for assuring the safety of vaccines administered to America’s 78 million children.

    This notice respectfully requests confirmation that certain obligations regarding vaccine safety required under the 1986 Act have been fulfilled or will forthwith be fulfilled. These specific
    requests are numbered sequentially in this notice. We would welcome the opportunity to meet and discuss reasonable means for complying with these requests. If that is not possible, the 1986
    Act authorizes “a civil action … against the Secretary where there is alleged a failure of the Secretary to perform any act or duty” under the 1986 Act.

    I. Background

    The 1986 Act granted economic immunity to pharmaceutical companies for injuries caused by their vaccines. (42 U.S.C. § 300aa-11.) The 1986 Act thereby eliminated the market force which drives safety for all other products – actual and potential product liability. Recognizing the unprecedented elimination of this market force, the 1986 Act makes HHS directly responsible for virtually every aspect of vaccine safety. (42 U.S.C. §§ 300aa-2, 300aa-27.)

    When the CDC recommends a pediatric vaccine for universal use, it creates for that vaccine’s maker a liability free market of 78 million children typically required by law to receive the vaccine. The number of required vaccines has grown rapidly since 1986. In 1983, the CDC recommended that babies under one receive two vaccines: DTP and Polio.1 As of 2017, the CDC recommends that babies under one receive multiple doses of ten vaccines: DTaP, Polio, Hep B, Rotavirus, Hib, Pneumococcal, Influenza, MMR, Varicella, and Hep A.2 In total, the current CDC childhood vaccine schedule includes 56 injections of 73 doses of 30 different vaccines.

    II. Deficiencies in the Pre-Licensure Safety Review of Pediatric Vaccines

    All drugs licensed by the FDA undergo long-term double-blind pre-licensure clinical trials during which the rate of adverse reactions in the group receiving the drug under review is compared to the rate of adverse reactions in a group receiving an inert placebo, such as a sugar pill or saline injection. For example: Enbrel’s pre-licensure trials followed subjects up to 80 months and controls received a saline injection.3 Lipitor’s pre-licensure trials lasted a median of 4.8 years and controls received a sugar pill.4 Botox’s pre-licensure trials lasted a median of 51
    weeks and controls received a saline injection.5 And even with these long-term studies, drugs are still often recalled.

    In contrast, vaccines are not required to undergo long-term double-blind inert-placebo controlled trials to assess safety. In fact, not a single one of the clinical trials for vaccines given to
    babies and toddlers had a control group receiving an inert placebo. Further, most pediatric vaccines currently on the market have been approved based on studies with inadequate followup
    periods of only a few days or weeks.

    For example, of the two Hepatitis B vaccines licensed by the FDA for injection into oneday-old babies, Merck’s was licensed after trials that solicited adverse reactions for only five days
    after vaccination and GlaxoSmithKline’s was licensed after trials that solicited adverse reactions for only four days after vaccination.6 Similarly, the HiB vaccines sold by these same companies were licensed based on trials which solicited adverse reactions for three and four days, respectively, after vaccination.7 The only stand-alone polio vaccine was licensed after a mere 48-hour follow-up period.8

    Very truly yours,
    Del Bigtree

    Read more, of this important and informative document:
    http://icandecide.com/white-papers/ICAN-HHS-Notice.pdf

  • You already disregarded the obvious evidence that was in front of you. You again chose to remain in complete denial and no matter what. That is your own sick problem, not mine. All you ever do is attempt to create only more distraction and disruption away from any form of put forth relevant substance, and any real and honest debate on the articles issues.

  • Really? And what do you ever have to offer time after time but your standard shillary level of complete denial on every subject matter that is brought forth? Obviously I have contributed a lot of vaccine damning information on these pages; so just get over it.

  • And what in your obvious hypocrisy do you call unbiased sites? Sites like the CDC, Pediatrics, CHOP, and the WHO, etc. That said circumcision study analysis is what existed as being flawed. Strawman, ad hominem are both common and typical terms used and which are based only in your own shill based hypocrisy. Circumcision is a barbaric and grizzly practice that has as well serious and obvious risks. Just face it that practice should not be done on infants, and every claim to its benefits is nothing but misleading quackery.

  • You are now talking about vivisection as it relates to vaccine production. Did I ever say that I do not find that equally as disgusting? That and when those animal substances are injected into humans? You have all along been entirely misunderstanding me. You continue as well to make false accusations where none can actually be made,

    As I said, I would rather see vaccine safety studies conducted on mice and baboons, etc; rather than done directly on children. That especially when determining the safety of multiple vaccines; and which of course anyone that has done adequate research, knows quite obviously that has never been and never will be proven the injection of multiple as safe. Not in the long term, and nor in the short term situation.

  • I have actually deflected from nothing at all here. I have directly responded as well to every point people like you attempt to make. I am not wasting the time to argue through dozens and endless replies as to why what you put forth is entirely biased and falsified information and that when the reality and risk truth is already evident in all cases and issues put forth here. Your mind is already made up; and you will continue to ignore and deny reality. That will be obvious to anyone with any existing knowledge of these issues, and any honesty.

  • And you still can not see any evidence for the risks of circumcision, and you can not see that the entire situation is based on nothing but claims of benefit that are misleading and as well only based on obvious quackery. You argue just to argue and to divert and distract away from any real consideration of this articles direct points that were made. That actually puts you at a level far below me. Just face it.

  • My qualifications are that I have the ability to do research and to remain unbiased and honest about the data and the issues. Circumcision has serious levels of risk, it is barbaric, and it is unneeded. All claims to any benefit are entirely based on quackery. The actual need of circumcision for physiological reasons is actually quite rare. Yet you support this for profit, barbaric, and sick procedure. That is obviously you own mislead and sadistic problem, and not mine.

  • I find this equally as fascinating and all of which you will make direct denial of. Do you deny that this situation and its data are real? That is a direct question. Second question, what in your mind do you determine as having done more harm than good? Explain to me that basic concept and that which you have regarding it?

    Origins of Medical Industry Corruption
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NheKUW6kGuY&t=2s

    Allopathic Reductionism

    Dr. Glidden explains the difference between what medicine practice our doctors really follow, and how their training is not near as superior to wholistic medicine practices.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocixlweg7NY&feature=youtu.be

    MEDICINE KILLS MILLIONS (direct data and statistics)
    http://medicinekillsmillions.com/

    Conventional Medicine is the Leading Cause of Death
    https://draxe.com/conventional-medicine-is-the-leading-cause-of-death/

    PHARMA DEATH CLOCK

    TOTAL DEATHS IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE JANUARY 1, 2000…

    BIG PHARMA’S CHEMICAL WARFARE ON HUMANITY DWARFS THE NUMBER OF VICTIMS KILLED BY ALL WORLD WARS AND ACTS OF TERRORISM COMBINED…

    While drug companies profit billions, people are dying by the millions.

    http://pharmadeathclock.com/

    These 13 Corporations Are “Big Pharma”: Their History, Crimes, and Products
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHSRwhceBxk

    Our Stories
    SSRI Stories is a collection of over 6,000 stories that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals) in which prescription drugs were mentioned and in which the drugs may be linked to a variety of adverse outcomes including violence.

    https://ssristories.org/

    Western Medicine is Rockefeller Medicine – All The Way
    http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/western-medicine-rockefeller-medicine/

    Benjamin Rush
    U.S. Founding Father, Signer of The Declaration of Independence
    (1746-1813)

    Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of Men and deny equal privileges to others; the Constitution of the Republic should make a Special privilege for medical freedoms as well as religious freedom.

    http://www.all-creatures.org/quotes/rush_benjamin.html

    Generation SICK: The Power, Politics and Propaganda Behind America’s Health Crisis Paperback – January 10, 2016
    by Dr. Vic Naumov (Author)
    https://www.amazon.com/Generation-SICK-Politics-Propaganda-Americas/dp/0996960406

    Pharmacopoeia …the sorceries of Babylon
    https://discernthetime.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/pharmaceuticals-the-sorceries-of-babylon/

    PHARMACEUTICALS – THE SORCERIES OF BABYLON
    http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/2014/01/pharmaceuticals-sorceries-of-babylon.html

    Pharmakeia (aka sorceries) of Babylon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L-qSVqg37E

    The Lucifarian … Attack.

    King James Bible
    And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. http://biblehub.com/revelation/18-23.htm

    King James Bible
    And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

    Revelation 18: 23, “By Thy Sorceries Were All Nations Deceived.”
    https://www.christianforums.com/threads/on-revelation-18-23-by-thy-sorceries-were-all-nations-deceived.7728322/

  • This is not about me personally, it is about this study. Again, you can easily read it and determine the answer. Again, all you can conduct here is more deliberate distraction and disruption and with your twisted and attempted personal harassment. If you can’t read this study and determine the answer yourself, then why are you responding at all? That is as well one of the most damning studies to ever be produced on the toxicity of vaccines. That as well is just the tip of the iceberg when you as well consider that there also exists in aluminum adjuvants and polysorbate 80 in the vaccines. For someone that considers themselves as the purveyor of the science, you really are entirely uneducated.

    Scientists, Dr. Antonietta Gatti & Stefano Montanari, have studied Vaccine Injury with a new approach.
    https://steemit.com/vaccines/@canadian-coconut/new-published-italian-study-micro-and-nano-contamination-in-vaccines

    New Quality-Control Investigations on Vaccines: Microand
    Nanocontamination

    Abstract

    Vaccines are being under investigation for the possible side effects they can cause. In order to supply new information, an electron-microscopy investigation method was applied to the study of vaccines, aimed at verifying the presence of solid contaminants by means of an Environmental Scanning Electron Microscope equipped with an X-ray microprobe. The results of this new investigation show the presence of micro- and nanosized particulate matter composed of inorganic elements in vaccines’ samples which is not declared among the components and whose unduly presence is, for the time being, inexplicable. A considerable part of those particulate contaminants have already been verified in other matrices and reported in literature as non biodegradable and non biocompatible. The evidence collected is suggestive of some hypotheses correlated to diseases that are mentioned and briefly discussed.

    http://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/IJVV-04-00072.pdf

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Oh Del Bigtree lol

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Again, all we’ve seen is an obituary.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You don’t even understand what you’ve copy/pasted, son.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Lol what quackery? Please give a specific example.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Your ability to ignore evidence must be due to the conspiratorial nature common among anti-vaxxers. Are you really still claiming US infant deaths from circumcision aren’t reported?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Are you always such a chicken Mr Hubbs? My point is if you understood the Gatti study you could easily tell us what they found in the control samples, but you have no idea do you?

  • It’s like playing Russian Roulette, and the people who do it KNOW that, which is why both sides have their mouse wars, monkey wars, guinea pig wars, etc.

    Fact! Testing Drugs On Animals Does Not Work to Help …
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animal-emotions/201212/fact

    False animal test results & damages caused – SourceWatch
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/False_animal_test_results_&_damages...

    VIVISECTION: THE TRUTH – Vernon Coleman
    http://www.vernoncoleman.com/truthaboutvivi.htm

    VIVISECTION OR SCIENCE: A CHOICE TO MAKE – Eftel
    http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/online/research/croce1.html
    Prof. Pietro Croce, MD

    1000 Doctors (and Many More) Against Vivisection | Animal …
    https://www.scribd.com/document/248037105/1000-Doctors-and-Many

  • The issue is, because animals are not little people, and their anatomy, physiology, histology, organ systems all differ, the experimentation starts all over again, on humans, except with the often treacherous handicap of applying the results of animal experiments in the process.

    PRISM: People for Reason and Science in Medicine
    peopleforreason.org/breakthroughs.html
    How Medical Breakthroughs Were Really Discovered … Conclusions drawn from animal research when applied to human disease are … leads to human experimentation …

    “Since there is no way to defend the use of animal model systems in plain English or with scientific facts, they resort to double-talk in technical jargon…The virtue of animal model systems to those in hot pursuit of the federal dollar is that they can be used to prove anything–no matter how foolish, or false, or dangerous this might be. There is such a wide variation in the results of animal model systems that there is always some system which will “prove” a point….The moral is that animal model systems not only kill animals, they also kill humans. There is no good factual evidence to show that the use of animals in cancer research has led to the prevention or cure of a single human cancer.”

    Dr. D.J. Bross, Ph.D., 1982, former director of the largest cancer research institute in the world, the Sloan-Kettering Institute, then Director of Biostatics, Roswell Memorial Institute, Bufallo, NY.

    As with vaccinations, it’s about the MONEY, HONEY!

  • KeyLimeVegan

    My god, you’re seriously into vivisection and “sacrificing” animals despite all evidence showing they are NOT appropriate models for us and it is far beneath human beings to use animals like that. I’m against all scientific fraud and animal cruelty. No, no one needs to imprison children to study vaccines; they only need to accurately study vaxxed vs. unvaxxed children (and people in general) worldwide, objectively, and publish the results honestly…something people seem unable to do for some freakish reason. Probably because of all the money thrown into the bottomless pit of animal experimentation by true believers like yourself. The vax side has their own animal studies refuting everything you “prove” with yours. You and they are continually blathering away in a vivisectionist’s paradise and coming to no valid conclusions or solutions, so I have nothing more to say to you.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Del sent it by FedEx? Not too shabby!

  • And your point is? The real point here is that you obviously can not respond to the information and refute anything at all. Vaccines are far more risk than any benefit, period. So are you still in the running in the attempt to become here the certified vaccine shill quackery supporting MD, King? And you are an MD where, and what do you actually practice as to any form of so called health care? You should know that MD’s actually know nothing about vaccines, but how to give them. Most of them as well know how to ignore and deny the obvious harm that is done.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    It’s a publicity stunt my boy. Del’s a hack. And the whole basis for his argument is “All drugs licensed by the FDA undergo long-term double-blind pre-licensure clinical trials during which the rate of adverse reactions in the group receiving the drug under review is compared to the rate of adverse reactions in a group receiving an inert placebo, such as a sugar pill or saline injection.”
    That is nonsense. Read about the trials that led to FDA approval for Herceptin, both for metastatic disease and adjuvant therapy.

  • He is NOT a hack, YOU are a HACK and a vaccine quackery promoting shill. What at all does Herceptin have to do with vaccines? You are as well entirely misrepresenting what has been put forth by Del Bigtree. Answer as well the question, where do you practice? What a coward.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Do you not understand that Herceptin is a drug? Do you not understand that Herceptin was approved by the FDA without “long-term double-blind pre-licensure clinical trials during which the rate of adverse reactions in the group receiving the drug under review is compared to the rate of adverse reactions in a group receiving an inert placebo…”?
    See? Del is wrong about FDA approval right off the bat. His whole argument is already blown out of the water. But he obviously impresses you:)

  • So in your closed and narrow mind that is all you find in this document and all you can focus on?

    http://icandecide.com/white-papers/ICAN-HHS-Notice.pdf

    Read the complete document as well, as I only provided a partial copy of it. The majority of drugs undergo exactly what he stated that they do, and all you can do is focus on one single drug. The FDA standards for pharma drug approvals are NOT the same as they are for vaccines. Far less is required, period. Nothing has been blown out of the water here but again and again the direct exposure of your own endless and repeated personal denial.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Many drugs, especially anti-cancer drugs (Herceptin is simply one example), get FDA-approved without being compared to a placebo. They generally are compared to standard treatments (not placebos) if they make it through phase 1 and 2 trials.
    I’m curious how you would propose new vaccines be approved for the childhood schedule. Would they have to be tested only in unvaccinated children or something? Specifically how would you do it? I expect you won’t have the slightest idea.

  • No fool, vaccines should be tested against a true saline placebo, not another prior approved similar vaccine, or parts of the same vaccine ingredients, such as Gardasil was.

    What am I going to need to do for you, post all 19 plus pages of this entire letter and document here, and which you have clearly ignored. Start over, and this time address what is actually there.

    VIA FEDEX
    October 12, 2017

    U.S. Department of Health & Human Services
    HHS Office of the Secretary
    Eric D. Hargan
    Acting Secretary of Health & Human Services
    200 Independence Avenue, S.W.
    Washington, D.C. 20201
    Re: HHS Vaccine Safety Responsibilities and Notice Pursuant to 42 U.S.C. § 300aa-31

    Dear Secretary Hargan:
    Informed Consent Action Network hereby provides notice per 42 U.S.C. § 300aa-31(b).

    READ MORE:
    http://icandecide.com/white-papers/ICAN-HHS-Notice.pdf

    When you get done with that, you can get started on addressing as this monstrosity of a piece, directly from the CDC. Who would EVER trust the CDC, knowing that they are made of that?

    “…any possible doubts, whether or not well founded, about the safety of the vaccine cannot be allowed to exist in view of the need to assure the vaccine will continue to be used to the maximum extent consistent with the nation’s public health objectives.”

    — DHHS Federal Register, Vol 49 No 107 from June 1, 1984 [In reference to the final rules concerning polio vaccination campaigns in the U.S.]

    Federal Register / Vol. 49, No. 107 / Friday, June 1, 1984 .1 Rules and Regulations 2307
    http://www.vaccinecourse.org/sites/default/files/documents/FederalRegisterVol49No107-1984.pdf

    file:///C:/Users/LH/Downloads/fedreg49%2523107.pdf

    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/655qrs/any_possible_doubts_whether_or_not_well_founded/

  • Karl Wegner MD

    If Del made some other argument in his letter you can just explain that to us.
    And as to your “true” saline placebo, would you have them analyze that with the same rigor Gatti et al used on vaccines? What controls were used in that study? (Remember, you ran away from that one)

  • I don’t need to explain anything to you, as it is all explained directly in the said document and which you choose to continue to ignore. That which you continue to ignore and fail to respond to. All you want to create here is again and again, more repeated disruption, and distraction. Your replies are entirely worthless and you should know that.

    Why would a said clinical trials saline placebo need to be analyzed and verified? They are not even trying to hide the corruption behind what they are doing and as there is no way to. They just do it as they know they can with corrupt FDA approval, get away with anything they want.

    And quit as well just simply moving the goal posts to more unrelated distractions that have already been addressed directly. And in the Gatti et al there would be no need of controls and would be pointless as they found all the vaccines to be contaminated with various metallic contaminants, and little more would be needed than that. Why did the CDC no acknowledge that important study and fund studies of their own which look at the same issue? They have no choice at the CDC but to ignore that study because they know that quite obviously that study is based in fact.

    New Quality-Control Investigations on Vaccines: Microand
    Nanocontamination
    http://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/IJVV-04-00072.pdf

    You simply refuse to face truth and reality, and you will make any twisted and false excuse at all to attempt to continue to do that. And where is Karl Wegner an MD at; can’t even answer as much as that question, can you. So I will.

    How can you be posting here when it appears that you are dead? Died on April, 4, 2014. Your not the same guy? Are you posting from your grave, or what? So you directly know of me in Sioux Falls when I was there, what a coincidence; but you are using a false identity. What kind of a coward and shill low life, does that?

    http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/argusleader/obituary.aspx?pid=170508529
    http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/karl-wegner-obituary?pid=1000000170508529
    http://www.usd.edu/news/2014/medical-students-benefit-from-scholarship-fund-honoring-dr-karl-wegner
    http://sdexcellence.org/Dr._Karl_Wegner

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So you can’t state any argument Del makes other than his obvious misunderstanding of the FDA approval process. But you keep copy/pasting his letter.

    As for “nanocontamination” of vaccines, since Gatti et al didn’t study any controls there is no way to know whether what they claimed to find in vaccines is different from any other medical injection (such as a saline placebo), or whether the contaminants came from their own labs.
    Why do you think they didn’t test any controls, Lowell?

  • And you continue to simply again and again ignore entirely everything I have stated regarding these issues, and as if it were never replied with to you at all. You just come right back in and reply with the same baseless, false, and twisted claims. You simply can not be wrong, ever and within your obviously very narrow mind.

    And just as you as well yet refuse to respond to this.

    How can you be posting here when it appears that you are dead? Died on April, 4, 2014. Your not the same guy? Are you somehow posting from your grave? I think the family of that man would likely object to and be appalled at the fact that you are reply posting here with that fake name and identity.

    Dr Karl Wegner
    http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/argusleader/obituary.aspx?pid=170508529
    http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/karl-wegner-obituary?pid=1000000170508529
    http://www.usd.edu/news/2014/medical-students-benefit-from-scholarship-fund-honoring-dr-karl-wegner
    http://sdexcellence.org/Dr._Karl_Wegner

  • Moishe Kahan

    Bottom line, offer any any MD a fistfull of $, for a comparison of the vaxed vs unvaxed in their practice. And hell breaks loose, i did it in packed waiting room, my kids ROTFL when they recall.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So why do you think Gatti et al didn’t use controls?

    And obviously I’m not dead you idiot.

  • Moishe Kahan

    So a chicken pox vax should be approved, even if has the same side effects as chemo????

  • Because as I said earlier, there was no need to and no point to doing so. The direct analysis of the vaccines in regard to metallic contaminants were obviously all that was needed.

    What do you suggest could and would be used for and as for controls, and state that specifically? In your mind, what would that be? And that as well which would be satisfactory for you. You know that your claim as to the need of controls in a study like that is entirely stupid, and obviously irrelevant.

    You simply waste my time every time you reply, and that is all you ever intend to do here. Why has not the FDA and the CDC followed up with their own studies in regard to the same analysis of those vaccines? They just simply continue to ignore and deny it all. They would lose everything as well, to see it all, and to admit to it.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So you want me to tell you. C’mon, son, how do you know the “nanocontamination” didn’t come from their own labs without controls? How can you consider their findings supportive of contamination when they didn’t test anything else? What if they tested some IV vitamic C from a naturopath’s refrigerator and found that the vaccines had only 0.001 % as many contaminants? What would you say then?
    And you wonder why only anti-science imbeciles like you take the paper seriously.

  • I am not your son, grandpa. How beyond in denial and stupid are your above comments. You will use any false excuse at all to deny the obviously damning results of that study. A lab of that caliber as well would obviously have no chance of their own contamination in the lab, altering the contamination test results that were directly done on those vaccines. Do you find anything at all in that study that would even suggest that yo be the case; no you don’t. They are as well obviously going to find those kinds of metallic contaminants in IV vitamin C, and naturopath’s do not use the FDA falsely banned and disapproved of IV vitamin C, they use the oral encapsulated liposomic form.

    https://www.livonlabs.com/

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Naturopaths use IV vitamin C all the time, but that’s not the real issue. You can continue making excuses for Gatti et al, but it’s obvious why they didn’t use controls – at least to educated folks.

  • Name those naturopaths that use IV vitamin C, and with the evidence.

    Any honest person can see directly how meticulous this study is and as to how it was done. Again, what is your excuse for the CDC and FDA not ever investigating that issue? You refuse to face the truth, so just admit it.

    International Journal of Vaccines and Vaccination
    New Quality-Control Investigations on Vaccines: Microand
    Nanocontamination
    Volume 4 Issue 1 – 2017
    1
    National Council of Research of Italy, Institute for the Science
    and Technology of Ceramics, Italy
    2
    International Clean Water Institute, USA
    3
    Nanodiagnostics srl, Italy
    *Corresponding author: Dr. Antonietta Gatti, National
    Council of Research of Italy, c/o Nanodiagnostics
    Via E. Fermi, 1/L, 41057 San Vito (MO), Italy,

    http://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/IJVV-04-00072.pdf

    And we all know as well how entirely worthless no study science to back any of his vaccine safety claims, Paul Offit, actually is.

    Dr. Paul Offit’s Aluminum Deceptions and Academic Misconduct
    http://vaccinepapers.org/dr-paul-offits-aluminum-deceptions-academic-misconduct/

    Paging Dr. Offit! Your Aluminum Neurotoxicity Reading Assignments Are Ready
    https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/in-the-news/paging-dr-offit-your-aluminum-neurotoxicity-reading-assignments-are-ready/

    Six EVIL propagandists who promote chemical medicine so your children will get deathly sick and wind up in their offices

    #1. Dr. David H. Gorski ­– Psycho-blogger-cancer-surgeon, a.k.a. “Orac,” who slanders his own patients in his blogs right after he operates on their breasts

    #2. Dr. Richard Pan – Medical extremist repeatedly violates the AMA code of ethics and believes in forced vaccination at gunpoint

    #3. Dr. Paul Offit – The freak who inserts deadly pig virus strains in a vaccine he patented for children who have mild diarrhea sickness

    #4. Dr. Steven Novella – The ultimate quack who ironically calls himself the “quackbuster”

    #5. Dr. Robert Santella – Psychotic serial-abortion doctor who declared on video that he “loves killing babies!”

    #6. Pediatrician Jason Terk – the world’s #1 promoter of the highly toxic and deadly HPV (human papillomavirus) jab

    READ more:
    https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-30-six-evil-propagandists-who-promote-chemical-medicine-so-your-children-will-get-deathly-sick-and-wind-up-in-their-offices.html

    Dangerous Medicine, (more important need to know, articles)
    http://dangerousmedicine.com/

  • Karl Wegner MD

    The reason no one takes the Gatti study seriously is…wait for it…the lack of controls! With your zero science background I know you don’t understand why, but there it is.
    As for naturopaths and IV vitamin C, here’s a tip for you, son. Google something with those words in the search box. Maybe try “naturopath iv vitamin c”. Then just click the “search” button. When I do that I get a whole bunch of links to naturopaths’ web pages where they offer…wait for it…IV vitamin C! Like on page 1 we see Richmond Hill Naturopath, NatureMed Clinic, Pangaea Clinic of Naturopathic Medicine, Snohomish Naturopathic Clinic, LotusRain Naturopathic Clinic, and Revolutions Naturopathic.
    Do you get paid to post oral vitamin C ads or something? It sure looks like it.

  • Again, your arguments regarding the use of IV vitamin C or not, are irrelevant. They irrelevant to the original subject matters were were so called, debating. Yet you still can not show one single error in the Gatti study, but to keep throwing at it that it didn’t have a double blind control. And who is no one; you and 5 other people connected to pro-vaccination that as well refuse to face the reality of and the facts of that study? I post the information I do only because it was applicable to the content of your reply. It has to really be ruff to live within a mind like you have and that is that twisted and that far and that deeply into denial.

    So what you are insisting on here is that any study that shows a negative situation and effect regarding vaccines, needs to use double blind controls, and even when such comparison control substances have nothing to do with vaccines. The lack of any need of controls in the Gatti study is obvious, and as it is not the same thing and nor of the same nature of and regarding direct vaccine safety studies where obviously a placebo is needed.

    Yet when we are talking about vaccine clinical trials, or general vaccine safety studies it is all just fine with you that no saline placebo based comparison of systemic effects is ever done. Again, in your mind its perfectly fine to use another similar prior FDA approved vaccine as a comparison placebo, or parts of the vaccine such as the aluminum adjuvant, and as well in regard to the Gardasil clinical trials, they also used HPV virus like particles in carrier solution. So oner placebo, was the aluminum adjuvant used in the vaccine, and the other was the same contamination in Gardasil that is known to cause the problems that re happening. Contamination that never leaves the blood stream, internal organs and nor the brain. All found at autopsy. The placebo info is all found in the over 400 page clinical trials document that Merck submitted to the FDA.

    Imagine your level of obvious hypocrisy, here. And as if no one can see it.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You’re the one who insisted naturopaths don’t use IV vitamin C – I was just correcting you.
    So without controls how do you know Gatti et al didn’t simply contaminate the vaccines in their lab?

  • And you are really that far into denial and as well that ignorant that you would even presume such a thing. Believe me, no one would do that, ever. And you yet continue to simply and entirely ignore everything that I have stated so far, and no matter how many times you have been corrected.

    Again, it is like you are having here on every level a continually dumbed down festival of mislead and refuse to get it ignorance.

    The true hypocrite is as well the one who ceases to perceive their own deception, and one who lies with sincerity.

    Medical Doctor: Blood of Every Vaccine Injured or Killed Child on Hands of Murder-by-Vaccine Pediatricians
    https://medicalkidnap.com/2017/10/22/medical-doctor-blood-of-every-vaccine-injured-or-killed-child-on-hands-of-murder-by-vaccine-pediatricians/

    New vaccines will permanently alter your DNA – by Jon Rappoport

    The emergence of this Frankenstein technology is paralleled by a shrill push to mandate vaccines, across the board, for both children and adults. The pressure and propaganda are planet-wide.

    Read more:
    http://www.robertscottbell.com/government/new-vaccines-will-permanently-alter-your-dna-by-jon-rappoport/

    And again, here as well is something as well that you should simply face the reality and the facts of.

    The Rise Of The Rockefeller Pharma Industry

    Modern medicine has some good points, for sure, and is great in an emergency, but it’s time we learn that today’s mainstream pharma industry (Modern medicine), with its focus on drugs, radiation and surgery, is at its foundation a Rockefeller creation. But how did the pharma industry come to be so prominent in our modern world?

    Where it all began – John D. Rockefeller(1800s)

    Read more:
    http://www.thebodywatch.com/analysis/article/rise-of-pharma-m.php

    Origins of Medical Industry Corruption
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NheKUW6kGuY&t=2s

    Allopathic Reductionism

    Dr. Glidden explains the difference between what medicine practice our doctors really follow, and how their training is not near as superior to wholistic medicine practices.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocixlweg7NY&feature=youtu.be

    MEDICINE KILLS MILLIONS (direct data and statistics)
    http://medicinekillsmillions.com/

    Conventional Medicine is the Leading Cause of Death
    https://draxe.com/conventional-medicine-is-the-leading-cause-of-death/

    PHARMA DEATH CLOCK

    TOTAL DEATHS IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE JANUARY 1, 2000…

    BIG PHARMA’S CHEMICAL WARFARE ON HUMANITY DWARFS THE NUMBER OF VICTIMS KILLED BY ALL WORLD WARS AND ACTS OF TERRORISM COMBINED…

    While drug companies profit billions, people are dying by the millions.

    http://pharmadeathclock.com/

    These 13 Corporations Are “Big Pharma”: Their History, Crimes, and Products
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHSRwhceBxk

    Our Stories
    SSRI Stories is a collection of over 6,000 stories that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals) in which prescription drugs were mentioned and in which the drugs may be linked to a variety of adverse outcomes including violence.

    https://ssristories.org/

    Western Medicine is Rockefeller Medicine – All The Way
    http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/western-medicine-rockefeller-medicine/

    Benjamin Rush
    U.S. Founding Father, Signer of The Declaration of Independence
    (1746-1813)

    Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of Men and deny equal privileges to others; the Constitution of the Republic should make a Special privilege for medical freedoms as well as religious freedom.

    http://www.all-creatures.org/quotes/rush_benjamin.html

    Generation SICK: The Power, Politics and Propaganda Behind America’s Health Crisis Paperback – January 10, 2016
    by Dr. Vic Naumov (Author)
    https://www.amazon.com/Generation-SICK-Politics-Propaganda-Americas/dp/0996960406

    Pharmacopoeia …the sorceries of Babylon
    https://discernthetime.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/pharmaceuticals-the-sorceries-of-babylon/

    PHARMACEUTICALS – THE SORCERIES OF BABYLON
    http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/2014/01/pharmaceuticals-sorceries-of-babylon.html

    Pharmakeia (aka sorceries) of Babylon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L-qSVqg37E

  • Karl Wegner MD

    “Believe me, no one would do that, ever.”
    Well that’s convincing!

  • Sick man. Let me tell you something.

    There are two types of people. Those who seek the truth and those who think they know the truth. Those that seek the truth will find it. Those who think they known the truth, (pharma lost and misguided), will argue to the death that they are right, and because they can not accept that they are or may be wrong.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Well if you have any real science showing Gatti et al didn’t contaminate the vaccines in their lab let’s see it. Or that what they claimed to find in vaccines was different from any other injectable substance. You can’t though because they conveniently didn’t use any controls.

  • Again only an entirely in denial idiot would ever even try to claim to something like that. And again, what controls does pharma use during their vaccine clinical trials? In most cases, absolutely none. I already explained that to you; as no true placebo is ever used in the comparison of systemic effects. You continue to support that kind of obvious corruption, which demanding controls in a vaccine contamination study that clearly did not need any.

    New Quality-Control Investigations on Vaccines: Microand
    Nanocontamination
    http://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/IJVV-04-00072.pdf

    Dirty Vaccines: New Study Reveals Prevalence of Contaminants

    Every Human Vaccine Tested Was Contaminated by Unsafe Levels of Metals and Debris Linked to Cancer and Autoimmune Disease, New Study Reports

    Researchers examining 44 samples of 30 different vaccines found dangerous contaminants, including red blood cells in one vaccine and metal toxicants in every single sample tested – except in one animal vaccine.

    Using extremely sensitive new technologies not used in vaccine manufacturing, Italian scientists reported they were “baffled” by their discoveries which included single particles and aggregates of organic debris including red cells of human or possibly animal origin and metals including lead, tungsten, gold, and chromium, that have been linked to autoimmune disease and leukemia.

    In the study, published this week in the International Journal of Vaccines and Vaccination, the researchers led by Antonietta Gatti, of the National Council of Research of Italy and the Scientific Director of Nanodiagnostics, say their results “show the presence of micro- and nano-sized particulate matter composed of inorganic elements in vaccine samples” not declared in the products’ ingredients lists.

    Lead particles were found in the cervical cancer vaccines, Gardasil and Cervarix, for example, and in the seasonal flu vaccine Aggripal manufactured by Novartis as well as in the Meningetec vaccine meant to protect against meningitis C.

    Samples of an infant vaccine called Infarix Hexa (against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, hepatitis B, poliomyelitis and haemophilus influenzae type B) manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline was found to contain stainless steel, tungsten and a gold-zinc aggregate.

    Other metal contaminants included platinum, silver, bismuth, iron, and chromium. Chromium (alone or in alloy with iron and nickel) was identified in 25 of the human vaccines from Italy and France that were tested.

    GSK’s Fluarix vaccine for children three years and older contained 11 metals and aggregates of metals. Similar aggregates to those identified in the vaccines have been shown to be prevalent in cases of leukemia, the researchers noted.

    Many of the vaccines contained iron and iron alloys which, according to the researchers, “can corrode and the corrosion products exert a toxicity affecting the tissues”.

    READ MORE:
    http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/dirty-vaccines-new-study-reveals-prevalence-of-contaminants

    Dirty Vaccines – Part Two: What the Industry Knows and Isn’t Telling You
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/dirty-vaccines-part-two-what-industry-knows-and-isnt-telling-you

    Breaking Interview: Lead Author of ‘Dirty Vaccines’ Study Speaks Out
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/breaking-interview-lead-author-dirty-vaccines-study-speaks-out

    Vaccine Contaminants, Nanotechnology, and Cancer
    http://vaxxter.com/vaccine_contaminants_nano_cancer/

    Metals Debris Found in Vaccine Supply
    http://www.ecowatch.com/kennedy-metal-debris-vaccines-2276687112.html

    Lead, Iron, Chromium and Other Metals Routinely Contaminate Vaccine Adjuvants, Industry Study Reports
    http://info.cmsri.org/aluminum-and-your-health-blog/lead-iron-chromium-and-other-metals-routinely-contaminate-vaccine-adjuvants-industry-study-reports?utm_campaign=eBook%3A+Age+of+Aluminum&utm_content=46490849&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

    Little Things Matter: The Impact of Toxins on the Developing Brain
    Canadian Environmental Health Atlas

    We’ve been studying the impact of toxins on children for the past 30 years and reached the inescapable conclusion: little things matter. We’ve discovered that extremely low levels of toxins can impact brain development. We have also discovered that subtle shifts in the intellectual abilities of individual children have a big impact on the number of children in a population that are challenged or gifted. Steps should be taken to reduce children’s exposure to toxins or suspected toxins. You can read more about how toxins impact brain development and the supportive documentation for this video here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6KoMAbz1Bw

  • Karl Wegner MD

    I didn’t say they were faking contamination (although they are antivaxxers). Much more likely would be contamination simply due to incompetence. But we’ll never know because they didn’t use controls.
    And no one else would be stupid enough to waste time and money analyzing medical injectables for single molecules with electron microscopy.

  • Yaa right; and you should know that those labs are meticulously clean; and you are actually and really that beyond stupid? Denial has no limits when you are a provax shill. How is your twisted pro-vax buddy Shawn in Ohio doing? You need to shut your blog down as well.

    Actually read the study.

    New Quality-Control Investigations on Vaccines: Microand
    Nanocontamination
    http://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/IJVV-04-00072.pdf

  • Karl Wegner MD

    How would I know that those labs are meticulously clean? How would you? How do you know the cellulose filters, aluminum stubs, adhesive carbon stubs or the “clean boxes” are clean? Or the instruments used to manipulate them?

  • Because they obviously are meticulously clean, and that is why. So again you ignored my statements and questions. You again pretend to be a smart guy that is obviously an in denial and dumb guy, and that has not been working out to well for you here. Which department within Sanford Pediatrics, do you work?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    “Because they obviously are meticulously clean, and that is why.”
    You don’t even know what lab or labs they used, Lowell. What’s your place of employment, job title and your boss’ name and phone number?

  • It is all in the study, genius. Actually read it. Oh yaa, and you demand that from me and while having zero identity given for yourself. You are a real piece of work. You already know that I do not work in any form of health care and that is all that matters, as it shows directly no conflicts of interest at all. You on the other hand need to provide your direct conflicts of interest as obviously you have a major conflict of interest. That is the point, get it yet? Or are you going to just continue to mindlessly ignore the obvious and play around for the next 50 or more reply posts?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So you have no idea what lab or labs they used, but you know it or they are meticulously clean because they just obviously are.
    How do you know I have conflicts of interest when you no nothing at all about me? And how do we know you are who you say you are? Because you have a FB page?

  • You know very well that I have posted with the same and very real identity since 2009. Connecting yourself with the Wegner library (a direct spite), shows directly that you are connected, and even though that is a false identity.

    And you think that this kind of tested vaccines contamination result was all because of an unclean lab; and you are really that deep into denial?

    International Journal of Vaccines and Vaccination
    New Quality-Control Investigations on Vaccines: Microand
    Nanocontamination

    1
    National Council of Research of Italy, Institute for the Science
    and Technology of Ceramics, Italy
    2
    International Clean Water Institute, USA
    3
    Nanodiagnostics srl, Italy
    *Corresponding author: Dr. Antonietta Gatti, National
    Council of Research of Italy, c/o Nanodiagnostics
    Via E. Fermi, 1/L, 41057 San Vito (MO), Italy

    Results
    The investigations verified the physical-chemical composition
    of the vaccines considered according to the inorganic component
    as declared by the Producer. In detail, we verified the presence of
    saline and Aluminum salts, but further presence of micro-, submicro-
    and nanosized, inorganic, foreign bodies (ranging from
    100nm to about ten microns) was identified in all cases, whose
    presence was not declared in the leaflets delivered in the package
    of the product (Table 2).

    Table 2: List of the vaccines according to their manufacturers with the chemical composition of the debris identified in each sample. The elements most
    represented are reported.
    N Company Name Alluminum Elements Identified
    1 Allergopharma – Germany Allergoid yes Al
    2 Aventis Pasteur MSD Lyon –
    Francie Typhim Vi no BrKP, PbSi, FeCr, PbClSiTi
    3 Baxter AG Tetabulin no SiMg, Fe, SiTiAl, SBa, Zn
    4 Berna Biotech Vivotif Berna no FeAl, ZrAlHf, SrAl, BiAlCl
    5 Berna Biotech Inflexal V no CuSnPbZn, Fe, CaSiAl, SiAl, NaPZn, ZnP, AlSiTi
    6 Chiron Anatetall Al(OH)3 FeAl, SZnBaAl
    7 Chiron Morupar no /
    8 GlaxoSmithKline- Belgium Mencevax ACWY no FeCrNi, ZrAl, FeCrNiZrAlSi
    9 GlaxoSmithKline Infanrix Al(OH)3 Al, AlTi, AlSi
    10 GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals Infanrix hexa Al(OH)3
    SBa, FeCu, SiAl, FeSi, CaMgSi, AlCaSi, Ti, Au, SCa,
    SiAlFeSnCuCrZn, CaAlSi
    11 GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals Infanrix hexa Al(OH)3
    ,AlPO4
    .
    2H2
    O W, FeCrNi, Ti
    12 GlaxoSmithKline Typherix no Ti, TiW, AlSiTiWCr, SBa, W, SiAl, AlSiTi
    13 GlaxoSmithKline Priorix no WCa, WFeCu, SiAl, SiMg, PbFe, Ti, WNiFe
    14 GlaxoSmithKline Engerix-B no Al (precipitates)
    15 GlaxoSmithKline Varilrix no FeZn, FeSi, AlSiFe, SiAlTiFe, MgSi, Ti, Zr, Bi
    16 GlaxoSmithKline Fluarix no AlCu, Fe, AlBi, Si, SiZn, AlCuFe, SiMg, SBa, AlCuBi,
    FeCrNi, SPZn
    17 GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals Cervarix Al(OH)3 AlSi,FeAl, SiMg,CaSiAl, CaZn, FeAlSi, FeCr, CuSnPb
    18 Novartis Vaccines and
    Diagnostics Anatetall Al(OH)3 Al, FeCrNi, AlCr, AlFe, BaS, ZnAl
    19 Novartis Vaccines and
    Diagnostics Dif-Tet-All Al(OH)3 Fe,SBa, SiSBa, AlZnCu, AlZnFeCr
    20 Novartis Vaccines and
    Diagnostics Menjugate kit Al(OH)3 SiAl,Ti,FeZn, Fe, Sb, SiAlFeTi, W, Zr
    21 Novartis Vaccines and
    Diagnostics Focetria no Fe, FeCrNiCu, FeCrNi, SiFeCrNi, Cr, SiAlFe, AlSiTiFe,
    AlSi, SiMgFe, Si, FeZn

    22 Novartis Agrippal S1 no Ca, Fe, SBa, SBaZn, Cr, Si, Pb, Bi, e FeSiAlCr, SiAlSBaFe,
    CaAlSi, Zn, CeFeTiNi, FeCrNi
    23 Novartis Vaccines and
    Diagnostics Agrippal S1 no SiAlK, Si, SiMgFe, CaSiAl, SBaZn
    24 Novartis vaccines Agrippal no Cr, Ca, SiCaAl, ZrSi, SBa, CuZn, SCa
    25 Novartis Vaccines and
    Diagnostics S Fluad no CaSiAl, FeSiTi,SiMgAlFe, SBa
    26 Novartis Vaccines and
    Diagnostics Menveo no CaSiAl, SiAlFe, FeCrNi, Fe, Al, SBa
    27 Pfizer Prenevar 13 no FeCr
    28 Pfizer Prevenar 13 no W, CaAlSi, Al, CaSiAlFe, FeS, FeCr, FeCrNi, Fe, , CaP,
    FeTiMn, Ba, SiMgAlFe
    29 Pfizer Meningitec – ctrl no Cr, Si
    30 Pfizer Meningitec – ctrl no FeCrNi, W
    31 Pfizer Meningitec no CaSiAl, CaSi, SiAlFeTi, FeCrNi, W, Fe, Pb
    32 Pfizer Meningitec no Cr (precipitates), Ca, AlSi
    33 Pfizer Meningitec no W, SiCa, CaSi, Pb, FeCrNi, Cr
    34 Wyeth Pharmaceutical – UK Meningitec no SiAlFe, SiAlTi, SiMgFe, W, Fe, Zr, Pb, Ca, Zn, FeCrNi
    35 Sanofi Pasteur MSD-France Vaxigrip no Fe, FeCrNi, SiAlFe, AlSi, SiAlFeCr
    36 Sanofi Pasteur MSD Stamaril Pasteur no CaSiAl, AlSi, Fe, SiMgFe, SiMgAlFe, CrSiFeCr, CrSiCuFe
    37 Sanofi Pasteur MSD Gardasil AlPO4
    . 2H2
    O AlCuFe, PbBi, Pb, Bi, Fe
    38 Sanifi Pasteur MSD Gardasil AlPO4
    . 2H2
    O CaAlSi, AlSi, SiMgFe, Al,Fe, AlCuFe, FeSiAl, BiBaS, Ti,
    TiAlSi
    39 Sanofi Pasteur Vaxigrip no Ca, CrFe, FeCrNi, CaSZn, CaSiAlTiFe, Ag, Fe
    40 Sanofi Pasteur Vaxigrip no SiMgFe, CaSiAl, AlSiFe, AlSi,FeCr, FeZn, Fe
    41 Sanofi Pasteur MSD Repevax AlPO4
    .2H2
    O Bi, Fe, AlSiFe, SiMg, SBa, Ca
    42 Sanofi Pasteur MSD S Repevax AlPO4
    .2H2
    O Ti, Br, AuCuZn, Ca, SiZn, SiAuAgCu, SiMgFe,FeCrNi.
    AlSiMgTiMnCrFe, SiFeCrNi, FeAl
    43 Sanofi Pasteur MSD M-M-R vaxPro no Si, SiFeCrNi, FeCrNi,FeNi, Fe, SCa, AlSiCa, CaAlSiFeV,
    SBa, Pt, PtAgBiFeCr
    44 Virbac S.A. – Carros – France Feligen CRP no Ca,SiAl

    Read more:
    http://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/IJVV-04-00072.pdf

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Lots of people have fake FB accounts silly. Just because you’ve had one for a long time means nothing.
    How would connecting myself to the Wegner library spite you?
    And if the AV authors of that dung heap of a study were so confident they hadn’t contaminated the samples they would have used controls. But there’s a much more likely explanation for the lack of controls. Can you figure out what that is?

  • First of all you should know that you directly need to admit that you were wrong, and in that there clearly was no chance of contamination in the Gatti et al study. You know, the one that you said was the study result was due to lab contamination. And you said you work in the scientific field, but yet you obviously can not actually read and comprehend a simple study, and that which was put in front of you. Quite obviously with what I have put forth, there was absolutely no need of controls in that study; and no contamination of the vaccine was possible as for the sample testing that was done, showing serious levels of vaccine contamination. That said study contamination was obviously not found due to the lack of controls; moron. It seems to me that you personally couldn’t figure out as much as which foot to walk with first, the right or left; and in comparison to your sick inability to comprehend direct study science that is right in front of you. Your denial is only a product of your own in denial, sickness.

    Everything you put forth is nothing but a twisted and in denial lie, and you know it.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    How would connecting myself to the Wegner library spite you, so called “Lowell Hubbs”?
    The other reason the Gatti et al anti-vax morons didn’t use controls is that they knew they’d find the same “nanocontamination” , and most likely more, in anything else they tested.

  • You have no evidence at all for that said and again idiotic claim regarding the Gatti study, and you know it. You just make it up as you go.

    So why did you connect yourself to that library and its diseased founder? You are using a false MD name. You ask questions but answer none.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    How would connecting myself to the Wegner library spite you, so called “Lowell Hubbs”?
    And you can let us know when anyone at the FDA takes the Gatti study seriously.

  • You failed to answer a direct question, and the answer if you were honest, will tell us everything; and you know it.

    Both the FDA and the CDC are the most corrupt and getting away with it non actually public serving agencies on earth; next to big pharma and their corruption. Are you really to stupid to understand and get that? They have everything to lose, and everything to cover-up. So, you are proud of that and their corruption; again waving and thumbing your nose at it all. That really is a black mark on the pro-vax agenda, and if you are yet to ignorant to know it. In your world, nothing is about reality and nor truth; but only denial. Are you actually proud of it and how sick I am repeatedly, and directly showing you to be? Everyone can now see what kind of a twisted shill liar, you really are. Wake up; as that is exactly what has gone on here.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    I know, I know – it’s just one big conspiracy.

    How would connecting myself to the Wegner library spite you, so called “Lowell Hubbs”?

  • Again, why and what was it that connected you to Wegner libary and the use of a false MD name of a deceased and founding that library, doctor? Answer that.

    And you call all this only a conspiracy theory; you attempting to be deceiving, and deranged man? Anyone with any basic honesty and common sense can see that it is all in fact, real.

    Origins of Medical Industry Corruption
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NheKUW6kGuY&t=2s

    Allopathic Reductionism

    Dr. Glidden explains the difference between what medicine practice our doctors really follow, and how their training is not near as superior to wholistic medicine practices.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocixlweg7NY&feature=youtu.be

    MEDICINE KILLS MILLIONS (direct data and statistics)
    http://medicinekillsmillions.com/

    Conventional Medicine is the Leading Cause of Death
    https://draxe.com/conventional-medicine-is-the-leading-cause-of-death/

    PHARMA DEATH CLOCK

    TOTAL DEATHS IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE JANUARY 1, 2000…

    BIG PHARMA’S CHEMICAL WARFARE ON HUMANITY DWARFS THE NUMBER OF VICTIMS KILLED BY ALL WORLD WARS AND ACTS OF TERRORISM COMBINED…

    While drug companies profit billions, people are dying by the millions.

    http://pharmadeathclock.com/

    These 13 Corporations Are “Big Pharma”: Their History, Crimes, and Products
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHSRwhceBxk

    Our Stories
    SSRI Stories is a collection of over 6,000 stories that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals) in which prescription drugs were mentioned and in which the drugs may be linked to a variety of adverse outcomes including violence.

    https://ssristories.org/

    Western Medicine is Rockefeller Medicine – All The Way
    http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/western-medicine-rockefeller-medicine/

    Benjamin Rush
    U.S. Founding Father, Signer of The Declaration of Independence
    (1746-1813)

    Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of Men and deny equal privileges to others; the Constitution of the Republic should make a Special privilege for medical freedoms as well as religious freedom.

    http://www.all-creatures.org/quotes/rush_benjamin.html

    Generation SICK: The Power, Politics and Propaganda Behind America’s Health Crisis Paperback – January 10, 2016
    by Dr. Vic Naumov (Author)
    https://www.amazon.com/Generation-SICK-Politics-Propaganda-Americas/dp/0996960406

    Pharmacopoeia …the sorceries of Babylon
    https://discernthetime.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/pharmaceuticals-the-sorceries-of-babylon/

    PHARMACEUTICALS – THE SORCERIES OF BABYLON
    http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/2014/01/pharmaceuticals-sorceries-of-babylon.html

    Pharmakeia (aka sorceries) of Babylon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L-qSVqg37E

    The Lucifarian … Attack.

    King James Bible
    And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. http://biblehub.com/revelation/18-23.htm

    King James Bible
    And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

    Revelation 18: 23, “By Thy Sorceries Were All Nations Deceived.”
    https://www.christianforums.com/threads/on-revelation-18-23-by-thy-sorceries-were-all-nations-deceived.7728322/

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So do you want me to explain to everyone what happened to you at the Wegner library, or do you want to come clean?

  • Freya

    I’m a virologist. I guess I should just quit since these geniuses have proven that my entire profession is fake. I appreciate you trying to educate these zealots. I’d never have the patience.