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Six Month-Old Baby Dies Just Five Days After Receiving 13 Vaccines

Imagine being emotionally blackmailed by your doctor to have your baby vaccinated with a lethal cocktail of 13 vaccines, which included two doses of the DTaP, three doses of the oral rotavirus vaccine and two doses of the polio vaccination. It sounds impossible, doesn’t it?

However, this is exactly what happened to Alisa Neathery when she took her six month-old unvaccinated baby to the doctor for the first time.

She told VacTruth:

“Prior to the shots being given, when the doctor was discussing the pros of getting vaccinated with me, he explained how he was from a village in Africa. That we were lucky in America to have the opportunity to receive vaccines because where he was from, the mothers had to have like 11 kids each, since most would die off from disease because they were not as fortunate to receive vaccines like we are here in America. He really pushed them on me hard. He spent a lot of time convincing me to give Bently the vaccines, but when it was done, we never saw the doctor again.”

According to Alisa, the doctor spent a long time deciding exactly which vaccinations Bently should receive and told Alisa that they shouldn’t give him too many. The doctor eventually decided on a total of 13 vaccinations, which Alisa now believes led to Bently’s death just five days later.

If this were not bad enough, the hospital then decided to blame Alisa for Bently’s death and called child protective services (CPS), who immediately removed her two year-old daughter from the home and gave her to the grandmother to care for her.

Fortunately, her daughter was returned a few months later.

 

Dr. Offit Says Babies Can Tolorate 10,000 Vaccines In One Day

In 2002, Dr. Paul Offit wrote a paper entitled Addressing Parents’ Concerns: Do Multiple Vaccines Overwhelm or Weaken the Infant’s Immune System? In his paper, he explained to parents that an infant can theoretically tolerate as many as 10,000 vaccinations at any one time and that a neonate could develop the capacity to respond to foreign antigens before they are even born.

He wrote that:

“A more practical way to determine the diversity of the immune response would be to estimate the number of vaccines to which a child could respond at one time. If we assume that 1) approximately 10 ng/mL of antibody is likely to be an effective concentration of antibody per epitope (an immunologically distinct region of a protein or polysaccharide), 2) generation of 10 ng/mL requires approximately 103 B-cells per mL,3) a single B-cell clone takes about 1 week to reach the 103 progeny B-cells required to secrete 10 ng/mL of antibody (therefore, vaccine-epitope-specific immune responses found about 1 week after immunization can be generated initially from a single B-cell clone per mL), 4) each vaccine contains approximately 100 antigens and 10 epitopes per antigen (ie, 103 epitopes), and 5) approximately 107 B cells are present per mL of circulating blood, then each infant would have the theoretical capacity to respond to about 10 000 vaccines at any one time (obtained by dividing 107 B cells per mL by 103 epitopes per vaccine).”

And he continued by adding:

“Of course, most vaccines contain far fewer than 100 antigens (for example, the hepatitis B, diphtheria, and tetanus vaccines each contain 1 antigen), so the estimated number of vaccines to which a child could respond is conservative. But using this estimate, we would predict that if 11 vaccines were given to infants at one time, then about 0.1% of the immune system would be ‘used up.’” [1]

Dr. Offit used the words estimate and predict throughout his paper, which leads many to believe that this paper was based upon POSSIBLE outcomes and contained very little scientific fact.

Sadly, it appears that Dr. Offit’s words were taken seriously by Bently’s doctor when he decided to vaccinate this previously unvaccinated baby with a total of 13 vaccinations in one day, in what can only be described as a bid to catch up.

The vaccinations included:

  • Two doses of the DTaP – diptheria, tetanus and pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine
  • Hib – haemophilus influenzae type B vaccine
  • IPV- inactivated polio vaccine
  • Pneumococcal vaccine
  • Three doses of oral rotavirus vaccine

Bently was also given three other vaccinations, which appear to be unidentified on his vaccination card, plus the hepatitis B vaccine and oral polio vaccine.

Little Bently died in his mother’s arms just five days later.

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Alisa told VacTruth:

“My son Bently was almost 6 months old when I took him to the doctor for a visit and to begin his first round of vaccinations. I had decided to wait on his vaccinations until he was closer to the age when the sudden infant death (SIDS) rate lowers to begin him on the recommended vaccinations.

That day was April 5, 2012. He did have some congestion in his lungs. The doctor stated it was a slight congestion and that everything would be just fine. He was completely healthy and above his percentile for his age.

The doctor gave him 2 rounds of DTaP in one shot. I did not know this at the time. I didn’t find this out until after my son passed away and I went up to the doctor’s office to ask for his medical report from our visit. That particular injection was the worst for him.

As soon as they stabbed him with the needle, he let out a giant scream. After that, he was not the same. This injection actually happened to turn into a hard red knot on his leg where they stabbed him with DTaP. Even until he was laid to rest one month later, he still has the same hard red knot. I was never asked about why it was there.”

She continued by stating:

“He wouldn’t let me touch his leg. He screamed and cried constantly. I knew babies were fussy after vaccines, but this was excessive. His little vein in his head would bulge out when he cried. I didn’t know what to do. I had nothing telling me this was in any way unusual.

Within a few days he stopped making eye contact with us and he began to twitch and jerk. One side of his body began to slump slightly. If he was not being held, he would scream and cry constantly.

On April 10, 2012, my son appeared to be exceptionally well and he and my daughter played and watched TV while I cleaned the house. Around noon, my daughter laid down for a nap. Around 2 o’clock, my son began getting very sleepy. So he and I sat in our big chair and he fell asleep on my chest.

Two hours later, my husband came home from work and thought my son wasn’t moving. He woke me up saying the baby wasn’t breathing. All hell broke loose from that point on. Bently was pronounced dead at 5:35 pm. Five days after receiving his first and only round of vaccinations.”

This leaves many of us to question whether Bently’s doctor acted in the best interests of his patient or whether his actions were totally irresponsible and amounted to medical negligence.

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Mother Did Not Give Her Full Informed Consent

In recent weeks, Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic was asked by activist parental groups in Texas and California to write an opinion in support of resisting the bills calling for abolishing all exemptions to vaccinations other than medical. [2]

In answer to their request, she wrote:

“Medical ethics demands that vaccination should be carried out with the participant’s full and informed consent. This necessitates an objective disclosure of the known or foreseeable vaccination benefits and risks. The way in which pediatric vaccines are often promoted by various health authorities indicates that such disclosure is rarely given from the basis of best available knowledge but rather, largely unproven and/or untenable assumptions on both, vaccine safety and effectiveness.”

Bently’s mother told VacTruth that she was never informed by her doctor exactly which vaccinations were going to be given to her son, nor was she informed of any risks associated with these vaccinations.

She told VacTruth that:

“The doctor asked me to bring him in each month after that April 5th visit to receive each round of shots in just a few months. He even stated that he didn’t want to give my sons little body too many. However the decision he made to give him 13 vaccines was completely excessive I believe.

Had I of known that’s what he was doing I would have refused. However he wasn’t completely forthcoming about what he was doing that day. As I said it wasn’t until I picked up his medical record a couple weeks later that I noticed the 3 separate sheets of paper with in his file stating what shots were ordered and I noticed that on each one it said DTaP twice.”

Many people may question the reason why Bently’s mother did not ask exactly which vaccinations her son was being given before her son was vaccinated, but she told VacTruth that she trusted her doctor and believed that he knew what he was doing.

Sadly, Alisa is one of thousands of parents trusting their doctors every day.

Many parents are unaware that every vaccination carries some risk of an adverse reaction and this is a fact that Dr. Tomljenovic made very clear in her letter to the members of the California Senate Committee. She wrote:

“All drugs are associated with some risks of adverse reactions. Because vaccines represent a special category of drugs which are by and large given to healthy individuals, and for prophylaxis against diseases to which an individual may never be exposed, the margin of tolerance for side effects is very narrow (in fact, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) concurs with this point [1]) and careful assessment of risks versus benefits essential in deciding whether one should be vaccinated or not. Removing the parental rights to exemptions to childhood vaccinations will put vulnerable but otherwise healthy individuals at risk of serious adverse reactions to vaccinations. Such an outcome should be of concern since serious adverse reactions following routine vaccinations in children, including deaths, permanent neurological damage and disabling autoimmune and/or inflammatory conditions have been clearly described in the scientific literature [2-14]. Notably, cases of seizure attacks and deaths occurring as a result of routine vaccinations have occurred even in children and individuals without any relevant prior medical history [7, 15, 16] and in some cases a direct causal link was established between vaccination and the serious adverse reactions [16].”

In her letter, she referred to a paper written by Ken Tsumiyama et al. and stated that:

“It is further likely that an increasing number of individuals, regardless of their genetic background, will react adversely if exposures to compounds with immune adjuvant properties exceed a certain threshold. This concept has in fact been clearly demonstrated by Tsumiyama et al. [57] who in 2009 showed that repeated immunization with antigen causes systemic autoimmunity in mice otherwise not prone to spontaneous autoimmune diseases.” [2]

Interested by this statement, I decided to research their paper, titled Self-Organized Criticality Theory of Autoimmunity, and discovered that Tsumiyama et al. had concluded:

“Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host’s immune ‘system’ by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system’s self-organized criticality.” [3]

If they are correct, then their paper proves that Dr. Paul Offit is incorrect and that multiple vaccinations can overwhelm an infant’s immune system, causing a variety of adverse reactions and, in some cases, death.

In further reference to their paper, Dr. Tomlejenovic stated that:

“It is true that people are exposed constantly to infectious agent in the environment, however, there is a vast difference between natural exposure and that induced by vaccinations. The reason for this is that the immune response induced by vaccination is greatly amplified, owing to the addition of adjuvants with immune-stimulating properties.” [2] (emphasis added)

Her words make absolute perfect sense and parents should ask themselves whether or not their children are being over-vaccinated.

The Lasting Impact Of Bently’s Tragic Loss

I asked Alisa how she and her family have coped with the tragedy of losing a baby at such a young age, and if she had any words that she would like to share with other families. She said:

“I wish he were still here! It kills me daily to see my daughter play ALONE. She shouldn’t have had to go through this kind of loss, none of us should. He was such a sweetheart. He adored his sister, father and I. All of that was stolen from us the day he received all those vaccines.

After that day, he was no longer the same. It completely ripped my entire family apart. Most of my family thought it must have been my fault because infants just don’t die like that, or so they thought.

All his short life he had been a healthy, happy and extremely content little boy. Ahead of his percentiles and then to just die … so, to my family, it must have been my fault somehow. They did not support my husband and I. We did nothing to deserve that and it’s all because some dangerous, ignorant doctor decided to ruin our lives and steal all the joy from us by killing our son.

I know without a doubt Bently WOULD STILL BE ALIVE if it weren’t for the vaccines and that damn doctor and the decisions he made that day. He caused my son to lose his life.

Since that day, my grandma, my mom and my husband’s mom have all died. They went to their graves being on bad terms with my husband and me. Again, something we can never get back, and we feel it’s all due to my son’s death being ruled as unexplained.

It was listed on his death certificate as ‘S.U.D.S. SUDDEN UNEXPLAINED UNEXPECTED DEATH SYNDROME.’ There has been no justice for my son whatsoever. We want answers, answers that we never got! All we have been left with is loss after loss after loss! That is not ok on any level! I will never vaccinate again, period! We cannot afford to lose any more.”

Conclusion

Deciding on whether to vaccinate your baby is never easy. In this case, Alisa decided to hold back on having her baby vaccinated until he was older. She was then emotionally blackmailed and forced into having her baby over-vaccinated with a massive cocktail of vaccines, by whom many would call an overzealous doctor.

She was not offered any information on the vaccinations being given to her baby, she was not given any paperwork and she was not offered any advice on any possible adverse reactions.

Alisa trusted her doctor to do the right thing and was let down in the worse possible way and believes that the doctor should be held accountable for the death of her son. She said:

“No one was ever held accountable for my son Bently’s death. That kills me every day.”

She is now bringing a case against her doctor.

If you would like to help Alisa and her family to get justice, please go to Baby Bently’s Support Campaign.

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References

  1. http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/109/1/124.full.html
  2. http://parentsandcarersagainstinjustice.weebly.com/professional-papers.html
  3. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2795160/
Christina England, BA Hons
 

  • Tuskers

    What City, State, Country did this happen? My heart goes out to Ms. Alisa. I’ve walked in her shoes. I buried my son after receiving his regimen of vaccines at 9 weeks of age.

  • km

    Fellow Americans:

    The drug companies continue to play with our children’s lives with impunity. This is because they are protected by an act of Congress. Yes, this is true! In 1986, Congress granted legal immunity to all vaccine makers. Unless this law is repealed, these horror stories will continue. Now Big Pharma is pushing mandates on adults also.

    Please sign this petition to have this outrageous law repealed. If vaccine makers have to pay for the damages, they will be forced to think about making the vaccines safer.

    http://www.petitions.moveon.org/sign/repeal-immunity-for-drug

    Please sign and share as widely as you can.

  • JoannesD

    Let’s vaccinate all the vaccinating doctors first then run a longitudinal study of the side effects, and see if they prevented any diseases.

  • John

    Vaccines damage every child that gets one, no matter who the child is or the vaccine given. The problem is that the doctors do not know what to look for to see the damage! They take blood test, check the pulse, look at the vital signs that include blood pressure, etc. when they should be taking before and after pictures! Looking for STROKES! These little children are getting MINI-STROKES each time they are vaccinated and no doctor is looking or examining them hours after getting vaccinated!

    Aluminum hydroxide is a coagulant used in several applications where coagulation of toxins are desired. It is a big ingredient in ALL vaccines. It coagulates the red blood cells that carry oxygen to over 600,000 miles of capillaries in the body. These capillaries are very tiny and require red blood cells to go single file through them to areas in the brain and organs, intestines, etc. that are WATER SHED areas. A water shed area is where blood only goes to an area serviced by these tiny vessels. When aluminum hydroxide turns the blood to a positive charge and coagulates the red blood cells and other toxins in the vaccine, it blocks these water shed areas in the infant victim’s body! This causes ischemia (oxygen deprivation) and damages one or more of the 12 cranial nerves in the brain and other water shed areas in the body like the intestines killing cells!

    The endothelium (inner lining of the blood vessels) senses the blood pressure and relays a message to the brain and when the pressure goes down, the brain speeds up the respiration in the lungs and the heart. If the pressure is not affected the brain believes everything is just fine.

    The problem is not the blood pressure, it is the BLOOD FLOW and the brain has NO BLOOD FLOW RECEPTORS! So when the blockage happens to the area of the brain where respiration is controlled, it doesn’t know there is no blood flowing there! The doctor only measures blood pressure, etc. and has no way to measure the actual flow to areas of the brain where the Mini-stroke is happening! The child dies of SIDS and no one knows why! Now you do. In fact, you or a doctor can take pictures before a vaccination and afterward and see the signs of the stroke in many cases in facial features! You need a slow motion camera to see the stroke in the 3rd & 6th cranial nerves by looking at the eyes in the rate of blink on each eye or the eye movements, etc. The stroke that happens in the intestines is why the child has pains there! This ischemic attack is not what doctors are looking for, but a neurologist can see much of this because he’s trained to do so.

    This ischemic problem is cumulative, so this is why the multiple vaccines at a time are so terrible, getting more and more vaccines adds to the problem and there are other factors that also increase this medical disaster, such as toxins in the blood, EMF, poor food, anything that turns the blood to a positive charge causing coagulation. Most of the time the effect happens and no one sees it and the child recoveres, but damage has been done. It is the child that gets ADHD, ADD, Asberger’s, Autism, schizophrenia, IBS, Leaky Gut, and the list goes on and on that becomes a victim of these vaccines to varying degrees, but the cause is the same for all of them depending upon the age of the victim, the stage of development, the amount of other factors in play when the vaccine is give will determine the outcome! And our medical community wants us to believe vaccines are just fine! IGNORANCE is everywhere in America and drug companies are taking advantage of our naive public! Disgusting!

  • John

    Dr. Paul Offit that said a child could receive 10,000 vaccines and never be harmed by them has refused the challenge to vaccinate himself with weight appropriate 1,000 vaccines and after doing so receive $ 1 Million dollars and he has refused. Just getting doctors to vaccinate themselves and their families with the same number of vaccines given to infants through 5 years old with the same weight appropriate vaccines will not happen. They see the problem and know the problem, yet support this insanity!

  • Mike7106

    Notice to all parents: Whenever you are required by any “rule” that states vaccinations of any kind are mandatory for attendence or participation of any kind do the following:

    Tell them ALL the required vaccines contain aluminum neurotoxins which by definition are poisonous. Neurotoxins are substances that are poisonous or destructive to nerve tissue. https://www.google.com/search?q=Neurotoxin&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
    Print the above out.

    Go to your local police station and register a complaint that the school’s policy can harm your child.

    Add what I said to any exemption form you submit.

    The same for employment.

  • Mike7106

    Chant
    “All vaccines contain neurotoxins, all neurotoxins are poisons.” It
    will work. The media will have to respond to that with the truth.

  • Mike7106

    Vaccine side effects are a poster child for “Medical Science” not having a freaking clue what its recipes will eventually do. People think vaccines cause side effects. Your body causes the side effects after the vaccine damages or interferes with a body process. The side effects are a kind of subliminal message to you and those around you that something has gone wrong that needs to be reconciled.

  • JoannesD

    Then it’s genocide. What’s being done is much more effective than rounding up and actively killing the fruit of our generation. The victims bear the cost, the killers are cloaked as humanitarians, and the authors of this outrage stay hidden.

  • JGS

    Every soldier gets at least 10 to 15 vaccines within days of signing on, never heard of side affects other than sore shoulder for couple of days

  • Obama_Lies

    She should sue Dr. Offit

  • brothersun

    Compare the body weight and blood volume of an adult v. an infant.

  • Doran Zeigler

    You had better hit the research books again. There are literally hundreds of thousands of vets, many from the Gulf War who are suffering from all those vaccinations. I have a good friend who was in the Gulf War and now has a type of diabetes as do many other Gulf War vets.

    There was a study in Great Britain about 20 years ago which concluded that the “Gulf War Syndrome” suffered by hundreds of thousands of vets was due to the “cocktail” of vaccines received by the veteran guinea pigs.

    For years the military was denying the vaccines had anything to do with the syndrome until the British study came out. Up until that point, the military was shuffling its feet and stalling on helping the vets because to do so would be an admission of the dangers of vaccines. To this day, they are making the vets jump through hoops to get any compensation.

    It was at the time of the Gulf War that the pharmaceutical companies got the “no suit” law passed because they were being highly criticized for giving experimental drugs that were not previously tested. The test was on the vets and the pharmaceutical companies KNEW beforehand that there would be complications, hence, the request four the “no suit” law.

    You cannot be so naive that you believe all the vets got was a sore shoulder. Another point, not all of the inoculations where given in the arm, some were in the buttocks. Please wake up before posting such erroneous comments.

  • Lou Davidson

    I cannot begin to say how much this breaks my heart. I rarely cry while reading or watching events unfold of this nature but this is just too much and the flood gates are open. It just makes me wild. I feel for the family and what Bently endured those last days. My deepest sympathy and condolences go out to this family.

    Shame on the doctor. 13 in one go. What the hell was he thinking? One thing I have learned in recent times is I don’t always listen to the advice of doctors.

    Recently, I took my son to the doctor because he has a case of Guttate psoriasis. His torso was covered in raised welts but not painful. She had two other trainee doctors come in to have a look and give their opinion or guess at what it might be. She told me it could possibly clear up or get worse. Because this was his second bout, she believed the psoriasis wouldn’t go away. It would be here for the long haul and it would be a long drawn out proses (2 or more years or a lifetime problem) to keep it from getting worse. Her only advice was to get my son spending 5 or so minutes in the sun to get vitamin D. Great, no problem, I can do that. And, it’s natural. I asked her (and the first doc I saw about this) about vitamin D supplements? Can they also help? Both their response were, “I don’t know anything about that.” WHAT? Good grief! This was the third doctor I’ve asked about natural products (nutrients) and they shut me down quickly. I know, doctors don’t know anything about nutrition, but one could only hope to find the one that did.

    Well, I’m pleased to say, with the sun’s help and nutritional cleansing supplements, my son’s skin has 90% cleared up and the welts are gone. Its only taken, less than, 2 months. It’s amazing what the body can, and will, do if given the right nutrients. I’m one happy parent. :)

    I wish everyone well.

  • guest

    Not so. You’d better get on military comment boards. Also, get on boards where the focus is detox. Lots of military & ex-military on them trying to find the way to get the crap out of their systems.

  • MissEcoGlam

    Bently was a SIX month old BABY!! you cannot compare a tiny baby to fully grown healthy men.

  • MissEcoGlam

    And yes please do a bit more research there is a chapter on vaccines harming military people in the book Vaccine Epidemic. I think you might be surprised/shocked at what you find in there.

  • Free People

    Another heart breaking story. I’m so sorry for what happened to Bently and my sincere condolences to the family. Truth is:

    “Blind belief in authority is the greatest enemy of truth.” — Albert Einstein

    Always do the opposite of what those “in authority” tell you to do. It’s the only way to be safe. These quacktors/quacktricians are only interested in their 100% vaccination compliance for their “several thousands” of dollars at the end of the year after the scam ‘Insurance companies’ review the patient charts.
    http://www.askdrsears.com/topi

  • nworder

    Well said – the medics have been mad with power for hundreds of years -vaccines in one hand and harmful drugs in the other sums them up.

  • Free People

    Yes, vaccines are killing the soldiers but then that’s been going on since the smallpox days and the ‘Spanish Flu” CREATED (by military quacktors who at least documented the facts) VaxINC! No mystery here. The military has always been first line of vaccination ASSAULT for the big vaccine EXPERIMENT because that’s all they’re for. Infants and children next!

    “Tell a BIG LIE, repeat it often, and it will be believed.” — Criminal VAXINC

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pharmaceutical_industry

  • Annie

    I have a friend whose autoimmune system was destroyed by the vaccines the military gave him. His whole life is spent seeking healing from the debilitating pain and consequences of those vaccines.

  • Lindaxox

    Look up NY Times, 2007…baby and mother get smallpox from newly vaccinated military father. Baby spends 80 days in hospital near death.

  • nworder

    DR HADWEN’S LECTURES online

    RE-VACCINATION IN THE ARMY.

    “Then look at our re-vaccinated Army. From 1860 to 1888 we had no less than 3,953 cases of small-pox in the British Army, and 391 of them died.
    If re-vaccination won’t protect the soldier, how is it going to protect the nurse? (Hear, hear.)
    In Egypt in 1889 they died at the rate of 1.750 per million from small-pox. But, as a matter of fact, the Government do not believe in re-vaccination. The other day, when the epidemic broke out in London, a regiment of soldiers was stationed at St. John’s Wood, near, and so terrified were the Government with regard to the matter that an urgent order came down from the Horse Guards sending the regiment right away to the other end of England, lest the re-vaccinated soldiers should catch small-pox. (Laughter.)
    I heard an amusing incident the other day about a magistrate who had some of those “ignorant fanatics” like some of you—(laughter)—before him.
    He told the defendants that they ought to be ashamed of themselves letting their children go unvaccinated, and added, “Why, I would not let my children go unprotected from this dire disease on any account.” A short time afterwards illness came into his house, and the doctor told him that a servant had the small-pox; and no sooner did the old gentleman hear that than his courage oozed out at his finger-tips, and he sent for the nearest fire-escape in order that the children might be taken away through the window, so as to avoid passing the door of the infected chamber. (Laughter.)

    Then there are those doctors who tell us that not only have they been re-vaccinated, but that if a small-pox epidemic occurred they would be done again, which shows that they have not much faith in re-vaccination. (Hear, hear.) At Berkhampstead, Sir Astley Cooper, who has been sitting on the Bench, declared in a speech on the subject that he had been vaccinated no less than seven times, and such was his wonderful faith in the operation that he declared, with all the courage of a Roman gladiator, “If an epidemic occurred, I would go and be vaccinated again.” (Laughter.) Why, if they had tatooed the old gentleman from head to foot he would still be crying, ‘Do, pray give me more vaccination.” (Renewed laughter.)”

  • katinaD

    Soldiers? Grown people.
    Not 5 month babies. .

  • nworder

    Dr Hadwen – lectures on line :-

    SMALL-POX EPIDEMICS IN ENGLAND.

    “We will now come nearer home and take the Metropolitan Asylums Board and their statistics.
    From 1870 to 1886 there were 53,579 cases of small-pox, and out of that number there were 43,919 who had undergone the process spoken of by Sir John Simon as “removing every taint of susceptibility to infection.” that is VACCINATION .
    But you may say, perhaps, ” Will it protect for a time?” ‘Well, I should like to know for how long? (Hear, hear,)”

  • nworder

    DR HADWEN – lectures on vaccination:-

    “Well now, let us see what vaccination did for Sheffield. This Sheffield epidemic occurred in 1887 in the very worst quarter of the town, on 135 acres of the most horribly insanitary part of the town, which was condemned years ago by the Government Inspector, and it has never been put right yet.
    That is where small-pox has always broken out, that is where small-pox has flourished: and when this tremendous epidemic took place on they went, vaccinating and re-vaccinating; and still the small-pox epidemic spread.
    There were no less than 7,000 cases of small-pox, and, alas! 600 deaths, and still the small-pox went on; until at last God in his mercy opened the floodgate of heaven and down came the rain, which washed the sewers and the drains, cleared away the refuse from the gutters, washed the dirt from the streets and the filth from the slums and away went the small-pox. Pure water accomplished for Sheffield what 56,000 vaccinations had been unable to effect. (Loud cheers.) “

  • nworder

    THE HISTORY OF SMALL-POX IN GERMANY.

    DR HADWEN :-
    They say, “Look at Prussia, and the way vaccination has stamped out small-pox there.” Very well, we will look at Prussia, which, I may say, has kept better vaccination records than any other country in Europe, except, perhaps, Sweden.

    In 1834, which is twenty years before England adopted the Compulsory Vaccination Act, so severe was the Act in Prussia that, in addition to primary vaccination, every child had to be vaccinated over again when he started upon his school life; he had to be re-vaccinated on going from college to college; and re-vaccinated over again when he entered the Army, which meant every healthy male out of the whole of Prussia.

    And so severe was the Act that if any man refused to be vaccinated he was ordered to be held down and vaccinated by force; and so thoroughly was it done that he was vaccinated in ten places on each arm.
    That was stiff enough for anybody, I should think. (Laughter,)

    In 1871-2-—thirty-five years after this Compulsory Vaccination Act—came the terrible epidemic which swept all over Europe. It came to Prussia, and what was the result? In that year small-pox carried off no less than 124,978 of her vaccinated and re-vaccinated citizens after thirty-five years of compulsory vaccination of the description which I have referred to!

    This roused Prussia, and she began to look about her; she saw the cause, and she was determined to remedy it. She brought good water into her cities, purified her river Spree, introduced a complete drainage system throughout the country—(loud cheers)—she got rid of her “rookeries,” and ordered model barracks to be built for the soldiers; and away fled the small-pox, like the Philistines before the Children of Israel. Sanitation did for Prussia what 35 years of compulsory vaccination was unable to accomplish. At the present time in Prussia small-pox is almost extinct. (Cheers.) It is not that people ‘are being vaccinated more; they are vaccinated less. (Hear, hear.)

    They hate it in Germany as we English people do; and you can now get out of vaccination there by the payment of a shilling fine. Even the very children in Germany know well enough how it is hated, and in proof of this I may relate to you an amusing incident :-
    A school inspector went to one of the schools the other day and asked the question of the class, “Why was Moses hidden by his mother in the bullrushes?” Very soon a little fellow put up his hand and replied, “Please sir, she did not want him to be vaccinated.” (Loud laughter.)

  • Lindaxox

    Sounds like Dr. Moulder work

  • circulo lazo

    John, I didn’t know this. I am interested in knowing more. Are you a specialist? A chemist or a neuroscientist? You seem to know a lot about this.

  • Free People

    Hahah! Great post and the truth.

    Quacktor Edward Jenner wasn’t even a ‘doctor’ – he purchased a medical degree for 15 guineas. He also killed his own son with his smallpox vaccine experiment, along with Phipps, another child he assaulted with SP HOAX vaccine.

    What can I say except – that’s what vaccine$$$ are for.

  • ricardolatte

    Why do you call that Quack offit -DR–he is a quack –let us give him 10k shots in a day and see if he survives–what is good for the goose is good for the quack!

  • Denise M

    When I asked the pediatrician that we have been seeing for 17 years about seeing the insert for a vaccination, he said, “Well, if you are going to be all conspiracy theorist on me…” I responded, “I asked to read the insert so that I can make an informed decision. You shouldn’t have a problem with that.” He just shut his mouth and walked out of the room. I was so upset. This is the same office that pressured me into getting the Chicken Pox vaccine by saying, “You don’t want your child to be one of the few kids that dies do you?” Well, if only a few children were dying from this to begin with, why the vaccine? Now I have children going into their early teens who haven’t had the chicken pox. How many more shots are they going to have to have for the rest of their lives? You cannot depend on the doctors to give you a straight up answer. Plus, where are the long trials that prove having so many vaccinations are safe?

  • guest

    Vaccinia Virus Infection After Sexual Contact with a Military Smallpox Vaccinee — Washington, 2010
    Weekly: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Vaccinia+Virus+Infection+After+Sexual+Contact+with+a+Military+Smallpox+Vaccinee+—+Washington%2C+2010
    July 2, 2010 / 59(25);773-775

    -Nurse Vaccinated For Smallpox Dies
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nurse-vaccinated-for-smallpox-dies/

    -Vaccine leaves nurse disabled.
    Nurse fights hospital over smallpox shot
    http://whale.to/vaccine/smallpoxvax.html

    -A Marine’s hard fight: leukemia and a smallpox vaccine infection: http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/07/local/me-smallpox7

    As you can see I found this one at the LA Times. Try and find some real reporting there now. Their censors must
    have missed this. Also here: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/a_marines.html

    Myocarditis death in soldier may have been caused by
    vaccines–DOD press release
    http://www.whale.to/vaccines/myocarditis8.html

  • nworder

    Jenner still gets taught in medical school – his “cowpox” dairy maids was made up .
    DR Hadwen was not controlled by big pharma in these days.

    DR HADWEN :-

    THE TEACHING OF EXPERIENCE.

    I have clearly proved that there is no science in vaccination; now we will see what experience has to say upon the subject.
    Since the passing of the Act in 1853 we have had no less than three distinct epidemics. In 1857-9 we had more than 14,000 deaths from smallpox; in the 1863-5 epidemic the deaths had increased to 20,000; and in 1871-2 they totalled up to the tune of 44,800.

    It might be asked; Did not the population increase? Between the first and second epidemics the population did increase by 7 per cent., but the smallpox deaths increased by 41 per cent. Between the second and third epidemics the population went up by 9 per cent. and the small-pox by 120 per cent.
    Small-pox is an epidemic disease, and if cow-pox is to do anything as a preventive of small-pox it should prevent an epidemic. It is all very well to say what a splendid protection it is when there is no epidemic about, but the question is: How will it stand when small-pox comes? But, as Dr. Druitt has well remarked:

    “You may just as well try to stop small-pox epidemics by vaccination as to prevent a thunderstorm with an umbrella.”

    In 1880 the Registrar-General reported that although typhus fever and other zymotics had gone down, the only one to show a rise was small-pox; i.e., after thirty years of compulsory vaccination it was 50 per cent above the average of the previous 10 years.

    We got rid of the black death and gaol fever entirely. What did it? Good water, good drainage, and the whitewash brush. (Cheers.) Yet the only zymotic which shows a notable increase is the only one against which a special prophylactic (VACCINATION) has been used, and so remarkable was this that the Registrar-General had to draw attention to it.
    Undoubtedly small-pox would have gone too if the inoculators had not taken such pains for nearly 100 years to establish it in this country.

  • AutismDad

    Gulf War Syndrome

  • guest

    Dr. Moulder work. http://vaccineimpact (dot) com/2014/dr-andrew-moulden-every-vaccine-produces-harm/

  • Free People

    “Jenner still gets taught in medical school”…hahah!…wonder how these ‘quacktors’ feel after having spent so much money on ‘quacktor school’, when they find out they were LIED to about everything. Must be very depressing. Can’t get a refund either. Nope.

    Truth is, compulsory vaccination was abandoned
    because more deaths were caused by the vaccinations than there were cases of smallpox. A sleight of the hand trick was used to foster the claim that smallpox was ‘eradicated’ (LOL) by the vaccination practice. Everyone who had been vaccinated and who developed smallpox was then diagnosed as having ‘chicken pox’ instead… (same as what VaxInc does today for instance with the polio vaccine, change the name of the disease to save the diabolical vaccine!) This is how the vaccine industry has been rolling since its inception. Trick the people using big LIES.

    “What good fortune for those in power that the people do not think. It also gives us a very special, secret pleasure to see how unaware the people around us are of what is really happening to them.”—Adolf Hitler

  • Free People

    Yup! My title for him is Quacktor Paul ‘for profit’ OFF-IT – because he is definitely OFF his rocker! The worm should be in prison or executed already. He’ll get his eventually, just not soon enough for me…….

  • James M. Barber

    You don’t understand what is written in the insert, why the hell would you read it. You sound like someone who failed high school chemistry.

  • Free People

    PTSD – disguised (to save the diabolical vaccine$$$). Caused by mass vaccination.

  • grammaknows

    And you sound like a paid shill.

  • grammaknows

    Not true. In fact, the military has medical exemptions as well as religious one. Soldiers that have been injured by their military vaccines are exempted from further shots and if serious enough, compensated just like every other service connected injury.

  • nworder

    Your pharma bosses woke you up and you crawled from under your rock.

  • clearlight

    Mr Barber, was one of your ancestors a barber/surgeon who wore the badge of his “profession” on his coat in the form of blood and pus? You sound like an arrogant pseudo intellectual clod the like of which infest universities and medical hospitals throughout the Western Nations and now even in third world countries. People like you need to be educated by exposure to reality and hopefully this will deflate your infantile hubris.

  • AutismDad

    I think both are real, but as you say honesty is not job one.

  • gust_of_wind_dance

    If this were to happen to one of my children my rage would never end. I would find some way to destroy these people. I don’t know how, I’d just make it my life’s work.

  • gust_of_wind_dance

    For me it’s more the statements like the one I saw on the FLULAVAL vaccine insert. It said ‘there have been no controlled tests adequately demonstrating a decrease in influenza disease after vaccination with FLULAVAL’. Would that ring any warning bells for you if you read that? Seriously. No controlled tests. How the f*ck do we know it’s OK let someone intramuscularly inject it into you then?

    I love how you actively discourage people from informing themselves as well. The fact is that everyone should be pro information. Or are you too afraid to burst your own bubble by asking questions and accepting the possibility (however remote) that the government just MIGHT not have your best interests at heart?

  • Free People

    Where are the long trials? More than a century of the vaccine EXPERIMENT and they still don’t have any. There are NONE. All package inserts state “THERE HAVE BEEN NO CONTROLLED TRIALS” and “SAFETY AND
    EFFECTIVENESS HAVE NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED” .. pretty clear.

    “I may not have you, but I’ll have your children.” — Adolf Hitler

  • Free People

    Yup! I was going to say Dr Moulder’s work and site. Incredible how vaccines completely CHANGE the facial appearance of a child, and even adults!

    I saw a picture of a very handsome young man turn into a very strange looking ugly man at Dr Moulder’s site. I was shocked at the devastating change in appearance.

  • Liz Ehret Re

    There are many soldiers who have side effects. That could be horrible allergies, asthma and other things like that. I have met many military wives who talk about the issues their husbands have after all the shots. That being said, my husband worked in Afghanistan and got all the same and never blinked an eye. I really think genetics has something to do with it.

  • cdk

    Do you get the inserts for your prescriptions? If you don’t you should and yes you can understand them.

  • Deborah Horvath Rowden

    Well said!! Maybe his exposure should be receiving 13 vaccines all at once!! :) That would be a dose of reality.

  • Testingplease

    This site is full of people who have failed at a lot of things apparently…

  • Trese Pratt

    Do you live in a cave? Seriously! Have you ever heard of google or youtube? Maybe you should do some research. View some of the stories told by service men who received these vaccines. PTSD is not always “in their head”.

  • Testingplease

    ” Imagine being emotionally blackmailed by your doctor to have your baby vaccinated with a lethal cocktail of 13 vaccines,”
    Fact? OR conjecture?

    “The doctor eventually decided on a total of 13 vaccinations, which Alisa
    now believes led to Bently’s death just five days later.”

    Oh wait, thats what Mom believes… Missing in this piece are ANY autopsy results..
    any.

    Oh wait, there IS a lawsuit…

  • Eileen

    Maybe you should check up on those soldiers…and how can you compare them to a 6 month old ?

  • Jeni D Safer-Healthcare

    The article broke my heart, people like Alisa may have made other choices
    for Bently that day had she known the statistics of medical harm. We really need the help of everyone who reads this comment to get this important petition to go viral. Each year, medical errors, the third leading cause of death, kill nearly 400,000 , injure millions more are cost billions of dollars. Mandated reporting of these errors is common sense, yet, lack of mainstream coverage keep these numbers out of the nightly news and dinner discussion. Below is a link to a White House petition created by a California nurse to mandate reporting of all medical errors in the United States. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/mandate-reporting-all-medical-errors-independent-oversight-committee-patient-andor-next-kin Please help us make this third cause of preventable death known to all. . We need 100,000 signatures by May 14, please help us… We need you….

  • What? What kind of a twisted nonsense filled claim, is that?

  • None of these pro-vaccine people will ever agree to, and nor with the taking of vaccines publically, to prove them safe. Not even Paul Offit. Lets start Mr Barber off with the new Gardasil 9, (with that double the aluminum adjuvant)? Lets get that video taped and put it on youtube.

  • ScubaTeacher

    Can someone please explain to me where the author is getting the “13 vaccinations” from? In the card (posted above) I see five. I do not see a double dose of anything on that card.

    I would also like to understand why now there is a gofundme page for this family? Does anyone else find that unusual?

  • BHill

    Spot On, Denise.

    I saw your Hitler quote, if youd like to see more photos of actual Germany in 1930s, here they are. They dont lie.
    Germany was the envy of the world and probably the happiest country in the world at that time. The rich around the world sent their children to be educated there. Abortion was made illegal, but child births set records, vacations were invented and made mandatory, 99% of Germans worked and had free subsidized housing loans for having children!
    The same people that destroyed Germanys economy Now run the CDC and want our children made into zombies. See also Leon Eichenberg. Father of ADD. Had a confession and said it is all fictitious. Dual Israeli citiezen as well.
    1 million zombie children being drugged due to him.

    https://pridecomethbeforeafall.wordpress.com/2013/07/18/life-in-germany-1930s/

  • Julie Berry Clark

    I love this, where did you find it?

  • Lover of Truth

    Truly I am so sorry for your loss and subsequent trials. Indeed you have suffered an injustice. This injustice like many others is linked to greed pure and simple. However this type of greed has entrenched itself into our financial, political, educational, media, agricultural and medical systems. It will by no means be easy to dismantle. I could see you devoting your lives to fight such a systemic disease from society. You would surely have my support in such endeavor. God bless you and may you find healing and justice upon your journey.

  • Megan Lee

    Oh please. While I agree that the loss of her son was horrific, I have to doubt the veracity of her claims. And I know I won’t be the only one. Vactruth? Vaclies, is more appropriate.

  • guest

    Why are you here on this site?
    Wouldn’t you been just as happy on the shot of prevention site where your acrimonious comment would be more appreciated? Of how about Science blogs-the gorski. Now there’s someone who is your speed.

    “While I agree that the loss of her son was horrific”
    In my profession we call this the yes-but response which means you really don’t give a rats….but because you want to make money by posting, you’ll say anything no matter how empty it is. So phony.

    Give it a rest honey, we know you’re trolling.

  • guest

    The vaccinations included:
    Two doses of the DTaP – diptheria, tetanus and pertussis (whooping cough)
    vaccine (2)

    Hib – haemophilus influenzae type B vaccine (1)

    IPV- inactivated polio vaccine (1)

    Pneumococcal vaccine (1)

    Three doses of oral rotavirus vaccine (3)

    Bently was also given three other vaccinations, which appear to be
    unidentified on his vaccination card, plus the hepatitis B vaccine and oral
    polio vaccine. (3 unknown plus it reads like he got an additional Hep B and Polio which wouldn’t be out of the norm when doctors play catch up. They like to double up on shots) That would make the count 13. Also, each individual vaccine has an adjuvant with it so the child received double the amount of adjuvants.

    “She is now bringing a case against her doctor.”
    I suppose this is why there is a go fund page. She want to bring a suit against the Doctor. I guess no one told her that the Doctor is covered by the blanket immunity of the Vaccine industry.

  • guest

    Oh wait…what’s missing is you missed the previous two article where children have died and your troll buddies posted almost the exact same comments. You people are like the guys hanging out in a bar with really bad pick up lines. Oh, and you never get the guy or the girl.

  • GoFundMe

    You missed the whole point of this and the other recent articles posted here recently! Please click on the link and give generously to the Support Campaign!
    Jeffry needs to buy a new boat, so do it soon.

  • Megan Lee

    Really? You don’t know a thing about me. I do feel for her loss. A hell of a lot more than you could possibly imagine. Troll? Hardly, HONEY. My name is Megan. At least I’m up front about who I am, unlike those who only have the balls to comment as ‘Guest’.

  • guest

    You don’t understand what is written in the insert

    -Pregnancy Category C Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Tripedia vaccine. It is not known whether Tripedia vaccine can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproductive capacity. Tripedia
    vaccine is NOT indicated for women of child-bearing age.

    -Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy,
    somnolence and apnea. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting. Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequencies or to establish a causal relationship to components of Tripedia vaccine.

    Pretty easy to understand.

  • guest

    Please be specific. That’s the only way you can be educated.

  • guest

    NO no no. Let’s start all the troll on this site with this schedule:
    49 DOSES OF 14 VACCINES BEFORE AGE 6?
    69 DOSES OF 16 VACCINES BY AGE 18?

  • guest

    You can’t sue anyone involved in vaccines. Congress gave the whole lot blanket immunity.

  • guest

    Really. So if we do a google search on you, we can find you? Or say on Zabba search? Doubtful. I do have balls!!. Well, not the kind you’re thinking of. How someone identifies themselves on a comment board is not important. You can say you’re giving your real name but from the comment you made I’d be willing to bank on it that’ not your name. Can you provide a last name?

    I don’t want to get distracted by names-real or not. What’s important is the information and message conveyed to others and your message, which has been played out on this site several dozen times covering the last two articles on children killed by vaccines, says-troll. It’s the yes-but troll tactic. The empathy you grudgingly expressed: “While I agree that the loss of her son was horrific,” was made moot by: “I have to doubt the veracity of her claims”. You compassion overwhelms nobody. Than, you immediately attack this website. Why are you here???
    If this website lies, why are you STILL HERE?

  • GoFundMe

    Well – maybe there is a lawsuit.
    Or maybe we will just say there is so we can get people to give us donations.
    Be sure to click on the link for the Support Fund!

  • guest

    This is a good example of others to see the troll tag team in action. One troll comes to the rescue of the other. Megan has gone to some length to try and persuade others she’s not a troll and you just blew it for her. Or him.

    How about this, lets stick to the topic of this article: The death of a baby boy after receiving 13 vaccines. Your distraction tactics are not working.

  • guest

    Obviously you didn’t read the article. There is no lawsuit. But you know what the wonderful thing about donations, you don’t have to contribute. I would take the time to be as insulting as you, but I’m afraid I won’t do as well as nature did.

  • Liora

    Take a look at the documentary film DIRECT ORDERS about soldiers injured by vaccinations – so called “Gulf War Syndrome” and other horrible afflictions and death. available out there via torrent download.

  • Tommy Smithers

    Poor Prussia, now herself extinct – wiped off the map, by the sharp end of the Soviet needle.

  • nworder

    FACT – to anyone with the slightest degree of humanity – you sickening troll – how do you feel in the morning with another day of lies ahead

  • nworder

    No one would be a troll like you unless they were unemployable.

  • Lindaxox

    Yes just a few years ago the press wasn’t a complete blackout the way it is now. The military has numerous problems with vaccines. Who wouldn’t have heard about the long and horrible fight by the Gulf war vets over their illnesses from being over vaccinated. Many people have no idea, they just keep repeating the short and simple messages put out by the drug companies. There is nothing simple about vaccines and the ones on the market right now are not safe.

  • disqus_kRZ8pKRqYY

    Nobody should be forced to give their child vaccinations it should be 100% optional and the choice of the parent.

    The Elephant in the room in this enforced vaccination program is :-

    If 99% of children in a school are vaccinated against the diseases then they are not at any risk whatsover from the 1% that remain un-vaccinated. It is the 1% that may be at risk from the 99% but that risk is the choice of the parents most of whom have now become educated to the fact that vaccinations can cause side effects potentially serious.

    At least the 1% have a chance to develop natural immunities to the diseases that they may pick up during childhood and as a point of interest the Natural immunity is lifelong not the plastic immunity from shots that will last around 5 years

  • hvaiallverden

    Lets play with ,logic a while, shall we.

    If you vaccsinate you, you should be safe, right, so why hammer thos that isnt vaccsinated for the problem you vaccsinated you against.
    Capice thats what Vaccsines are.

    The why hammer non vaccsinated, thats why I react to the sham, of blaming the vaccsinated for a sickness, this dont comply with you own logic, since you are safe.
    Right.

    But, measels have shown, and this Disney land scare have proven, that Vaccsinated people INFECT others, even vaccsinated people and NON vaccsinated people, this can be traced by DNA or a full blood screening.

    This isnt exactly hyped is it, why do they lie about the so calle safty when they de facto injects the person with the actauale sickness its supoused to protect, that because if this isnt injected, per def, this then isnt a vaccsine, so this alone PROVES the measels can and do infect others, and so on.

    And stil I am labaled, ehhhh…… anti sientific, bye the “science is setled” cult.
    Yupp we do live in medival times.

    peace

  • Testingplease

    1:30, you work nights, or are you unemployed?

  • Testingplease

    Sorry, I do understand her pain. But these anti-vac websites milk peoples pain, fill them with a lot of BS..hype anecdotal conspiracy nonsense…Was there an autopsy?

  • sabelmouse

    ???

  • sabelmouse

    good point.

  • luckymama75

    Are you kidding me? Research does not mean google or youtube. This is why people can’t take anti-vax groups seriously.

  • Reneé Kunkel

    Perhaps it’s your horrible rejection of the use of a spell check. One can not trust that you could be in any way shape or form in possession of medical knowledge (Or understand the literature on each vaccination) if you can’t spell it!

  • Glenn Festog

    We can all sleep soundly knowing the Grammar Police are on the job!

    Not!

  • Glenn Festog

    A quick look at her Discus shows that 90%+ of her comments involve defending all vaccinations at pretty much any cost. A few others defend Bayer (their pesticides DON’T kill bees), SIDS (the baby died, its the parents fault), and general lambasting of people who don’t believe “real” scientists.

    The name “Fiona” (from Shrek) is far more appropriate than “Megan” for this person……….

  • disqus_F4LAnhGEIL

    The doctors are acting as executioners for the state.

  • nworder

    A vaccination for speling is in the making – it undoes vaccine damage to the speling centurs of the brane according to the pharma execs.

  • Glenn Festog

    Soon to be made mandatory in order to go to kindergarden……

  • billed

    This woman allowed Doctors to kill her own baby because she was STUPID https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZlTfzAw6Ak

  • Glenn Festog

    Libya had the highest level of living per person in all of Africa…, until we “saved” them from Gaddaffi…, how many “friends of the US” did we make there…, outside of CIA “terrorist” groups?

  • Glenn Festog

    When the people who make this crap fake reports to sell it (GSK, MERCK), are (in some cases) controling the media about it to increase their own profits (Murdock), you get your info where you can. All it took for me was watching a friends baby go downhill immediately after receiving vaccines; if you want to poison yourself or your children, be my guest.

  • Glenn Festog

    A look at how Vietnam Vets exposed to Agent Orange were treated shows the above to be “business as usual” in the DOD.

  • nworder

    Still employed , unvaccinated , in a different time zone – but you did common core .

  • nworder

    And not in his arm !

  • nworder

    Just google Dr Hadwen’s lectures on vaccination. On “Whale” as well.
    His contemporary was Dr Creighton – both fought against vaccination in the UK and Europe – and they had honest stats – not from CDC.

  • ScubaTeacher

    Where are you getting the two doses of dTap. The first card shows one – I see the second typed bill shows two – so which is correct? Where does it say 3 doses of oral rotavirus? And how do you know that “Bently was also given three other vaccinations which appear to be unidentified on his vaccination card” – according to whom did the baby get these vaccinations???

    The story does not add up (as the numbers don’t add up). It also seems quite bizarre to start up a gofundme page years after the death of the child. Seems quite opportunistic and I don’t think it helps your cause to promote this particular incidence as a case of vaccine injury…

  • Free People

    Agree!

  • Andrew Kasch

    “which Alisa now believes led to Bently’s death just five days later.”

    That’s the key word: BELIEVE.
    All this anti-vaccine stuff is predicated on beliefs, not actual science.

  • Angelica

    You are an idiot.Doo your research fool.

  • Angelica

    Your very rude.

  • Angelica

    Good post.

  • Angelica

    Ha ha!

  • Reneé Kunkel

    So— you’re reading that thinking— oh, he must be a doctor…
    I rather take my information from people who actually know how to spell….. Those were NOT typos!

  • Reneé Kunkel

    WE get printed out sheets with ours… but I have asked for the inserts and just handed the sheets…. so I guess I am to assume that they are packaged and shipped in bulk? At any rate- the sheets sound as if it’s a dice roll. AND MY CHILDREN HAVE HAD REACTIONS TO THE INJECTIONS!

  • Glenn Festog

    So it is safe to say your manners died years ago? Apparently in a suicide pact with your conscience……….

  • Angelica

    A classic case of cognitive dissonance if I ever saw one. This happens all the time. The US is 45th in the world for infant mortaliity,right behind Cuba and Slovenia. It s no coincidence that most SIDS cases happen close to vaccinations. What do you think is causing all these healthy infant to suddenly die,? Oh yes,vaccinations are magical. Made from fairy dust and unicorn piss. Research please as you like many people are profoundly mislead . Check out Dr.Boyd Haley PhD, a true scientist for vaccine safety.

  • Andrew Kasch

    I love being called an idiot by people who can’t even spell.

    Sorry…just because you read a bunch of internet blogs doesn’t make you an expert on whether vaccines are safe or not.

  • Misty

    First off this is so very sad! It’s a human life & a baby at that!!!
    Secondly I have a child with Chiari Malformation so he has a whole team of Dr.’ S at children’s hospital & so on. Our local doctors have pushed & pushed to give him immunization shots. They are like druggies who push drugs on kids with peer pressure. It has went so far I have been threatened to be turned in to health & human social services & law enforcement. I asked my sons neurologist what I should do & what he thought of it. This is what he told me : ” you didn’t hear this from me & if you say you did I will deny it but I would wait as long as you can. The shots are not good for a normal child let alone one with medical issues & they cause children lots of unnecessary isuess & illnesses.”. My son also has allergies to lots of things & foods including eggs which are present in all vaccines! It really makes you wonder why they want to give babies and children these shots but then tell you not to feed kids eggs until they are a year old!!! My son is now 5 1/2 years old & has never had any major illnesses other than last week he was treated for whooping cough with antibiotics, since his two older sisters tested positive for it ( they both had been vacinated prior & recently for it), he was not & never got sick at all!!!

  • GoFundMe

    So why do you hang around here, “guest”? Your only function seems to be calling other posters “trolls” and trying to chase them away. Are you afraid some of the believers might start asking the same questions?
    This is the same behaviour you see in a cult. Including the fleecing of the flock for their money.

  • Free People

    The ‘cult’ is who you work for. The white coat quacktors, prie$t$ of the Holy church of biological my$tici$m, will fear monger, threaten and LIE about the ‘need and requirement’ for vaccine$$$ in order to meet their 100% vaccination quota at the end of the year so the big In$urance Co can PAY them their “several thousands” of dollar$$ BONU$$ for having maimed, disabled and even KILLED infants, children and people 100%!

    “When injustice becomes law, RESISTANCE becomes duty.” — Thomas Jefferson

  • nworder

    You must be used to being called an idiot by now – lol

  • Alisa Neathery

    I am that woman and no I am not STUPID!
    The doctor mixed all the shots together into 3 syringes. I had no idea the amount of vaccines being given. So before you call the mother who has held a dead baby in her arms, you better get ready for a not so nice reply because as far as im concerned your ignorant along a ignorant mind set! My baby dies while sleeping in my arms. Do you have kids yourself? You obviously dont because no parent would be that heartless to make a comment like that!

  • Rebecca Heinemann

    What an insensitive comment. You should be ashamed of yourself

  • Christopher Kidder

    I believe that, in general, vaccinations are a good thing. Did this child die from the vaccination cocktail? We do not know. It is possible. There are rare occasions and complexities that occur. Overall, vaccinations can help reduce risk of illness. Alisa, I am sorry for your loss. Bentley is adorable. No one should have to go through this pain. Prayers for you and your family.

  • Dana

    I request the authors of this article to offer a redaction or a correction. Their inability to review vaccination records and poor journalistic integrity has spread significant misinformation and unwarranted fear. With proper review of the 2 documents provided, (1) the hand-completed vaccine record and (2) the printed copy of the vaccine billing record which is not an official emr copy of a vaccine record, one can see that 13 vaccines were not given.
    Record (1) shows that on 4/5/12 a Hep B, Dtap, Hib, IPV (inactivated polio vaccine), and Rotavirus (RV) noted as oral since it is an oral vaccine, were given.
    Record (2) indicates, Dtap, Hib, Polio (IPV), pneumococcal (PCV which was not recorded on record 1), and rotavirus (I will comment on why only 1 dose was given below). There is a second Dtap listed on (2) but this likely represents a data entry error and should be the Hep B as seen on (1).
    Rotavirus 3 dose does not mean 3 doses were given. It is a billing code to differentiate the 3 dose rotavirus vaccine (Rotateq) from the 2 dose vaccine (Rotarix).
    No Oral polio vaccine (OPV) was given on top of the IPV as it has not been available in the US since 2000. The only oral vaccine indicated by either record was the Rotavirus.
    As you see there are 5 “Imm admin 1st component” so they were billed for
    5 vaccines administered, and the Imm admin. each add. component x 2
    just refers to the 2nd and 3rd components of the DTap (tetanus, and
    pertussis).
    All vaccines are accounted for and at most were 6 total which are the usual vaccines given per CDC schedule at 2,4 and 6mo well checks.
    The only crime one can be held accountable for is a clerical error on the billing record, forgetting to document the Pneumococcal (prevnar) on record (1) and missing an additional administration charge.

    None of this shows any medical negligence.
    There is more to this story, autopsy results, blood cultures, etc. that likely give a better understanding why this child unfortunately died.

  • GoFundMe

    Look at “Free People”! Unable to answer for the cultish behaviour I pointed out, she just turns around and tries to call the name back. Except it doesn’t work.
    Let’s talk about shills. What do you call someone that writes up a sad story – embellishing details and adding suitable lies to tug at the heartstrings of the intended audience, then begs them to give donations? Sounds like a shill to me.
    And where will that money actually be going to?

  • Eevie

    Bottom line is vaccines are not safe. We know it and you know it. To say otherwise makes you a liar.This babyS death was covered up and they tried to put their guilt on the mother. We have had enough bs from the medical community and the govt telling us what to do, or not to do. They do not have our best interests at heart..

  • nworder

    I believe that specifically you are an industry paid pharma shill.

    And we know thousands of children die and get disabled by vaccine cocktails.

  • Capt Ron

    Accuracy isn’t the game here – It’s all preconceived bias, emotion and erroneous correlations!

  • Christopher Kidder

    not even closely related to that industry, but thank you for your assumptions. Also, who is “we” and who are these “thousands of children” you speak of? Please educate me on this. Where is the list of dead babies? If you and your group (only described above as “we”), know something the rest of the population does not, it would be a crime not to disclose. Please, show me this one-by-one list of all the dead children and the direct relation of their deaths and vaccinations. Please respond.

  • driereyes

    The ones who have actually made it through the clown courts while grieving their childs injury or death, are accounted for here:
    http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statisticsreport.pdf

  • Capt Ron

    Yes… Many cling to BELIEFS based on pure conjecture and usually just what people want to believe. Without applying appropriate logic and scientific methodology to obtaining and analyzing evidence, the human mind has a difficult time with deciding correlation. This article and others like it in this web site are rife with “post hoc ergo propter hoc” logical fallacies.

  • Christopher Kidder

    I am just throwing this out there…. how do you know that this death was specifically a result of vaccinations? If I eat a meal from Mc Donald’s this morning and die tonight, could my wife make a huge deal about how fast food is killing our nation and how it killed her husband? She sure could and every fast-food-corporate-hating person would join in on the blog to support her. No evidence was given above. Dana posts very specific reasons why the above is incorrect (with the charting) and how other evidence is missing such as an autopsy, blood cultures, etc. If you do not want to get a vaccination, fine, but incorrect info should not be used to play with peoples’ emotions just to get them to side with you and your cause. ACCURATE information, HONEST information, TRUTHFUL information should be used.

  • Sarah Morrow

    I agree with Dana. There are so many red flags in this post. The site does not specifically name the doctor or the clinic in the article, but it does state the mother and child’s name (and Mom only very recently set up a GoFundMe account for her deceased baby – how convenient). After researching this case, I found out that neither the PA-C nor his supervising MD has any legal action against them – at all, in any point in their careers. Both are in good standing with the Texas Medical Board and have positive ratings from patients. What this mom is accusing the doctors of would be considered medical malpractice – negligence and injury to a child, and suitable for trial. But why hasn’t she filed suit? This is a fear-mongering story and is being cited as a scare tactic to not vaccinate your child. I want to re-point to the fact that the mother’s older child was removed from her care for **months** after the her infant’s death (which was ruled by the MA/coroner as SIDS/SUDS).

  • Sarah Morrow

    AGREED!

  • I have seen some really stupidly crazy mainstream hypnotized doctors in my time. Yet this African voodoo master is in a category all by himself.
    Speak about projection and emotional blackmail…

  • Free People

    Two comments?..brand new TROLL? You are despicable. Go collect your pennies and run along to the Daily Beast where they like trolls like you.

  • Free People

    Another new TROLL. TWO BS comments. Go request whatever you want idiot. Nobody is paying attention to you. Go collect your pennies for crime.

  • disqusparticipant77

    lol

  • disqusparticipant77

    I want to add that, in Texas, the statute of limitations on wrongful death is two years. This mama is collecting funds for a suit she can no longer legally file (see her GoFundMe account), so consider that before you contribute.

  • Free People

    The TROLL BRIGADE has landed on this article with their vaccine LIE$$$, as usual. VaxINC is desperate.

  • Free People

    Funny, clicking on your avatar comes up Sarah Morrow 2 comments. Keep digging your hole TROLL.

  • Free People

    This avatar also comes up Sarah Morrow…how many IPs do you have…oh yeah…VAXINC gives out many to their TROLLS so they can talk to themselves under different names.

  • Free People

    2 comments only?…just came to TROLL?

  • Free People

    Thanks for calling out the TROLLS! They’re all over the place here. VAXINC IS DESPERATE to keep hiding the TRUTH about their assault weapons.

  • nworder

    Since you are a paid shill you will know where the babies bodies are buried – start off with this website and then move onto others . Why should I do your dirty work you unemployable piece of garbage who has sold his soul as a cheap pharma troll .

  • nworder

    How do you feel when you wake doing this dirty work – like Goebbels ? Another day of lies ahead for a meager buck – no liars will enter the kingdom .

  • nworder

    Many tell lies for a few dollars – this lying will eventually affect your whole life and destroy your soul – why not get an honest job – why destroy your life licking stinking rich pharma executives boots – they dont give a damn about you as they line the pockets of their $1000
    suits paid for by dead and sick babies.

  • Free People

    Yes, it’s a cult. The greatest thinkers of all time have known the truth about vaccines and this one over a century ago:

    “Vaccination is a barbarous practice and one of the most fatal of all the
    delusions current in our time, not to be found even among the so-called savage races of the world.”

    “Moreover, vaccination is a very dirty process. The vaccine is a filthy
    substance and it is foolish to expect that one kind of filth can be removed by another.”

    “The fact of the matter is that it is only the self-interest of doctors that stands in the way of the abolition of this inhumane practice, for the fear of losing the large incomes that they at present derive from this source blinds them to the countless evils which it brings.”

    “Conscientious objectors to vaccination should stand alone, if need be,
    against the whole world, in defence of their conviction.”

    — Mahatma Gandhi

    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/gandhis-anti-vaccine-views-ring-true-century-laterA

  • AutismDad

    AH…the cut off date is 12 days…..sorry no link to vaccines

  • AutismDad

    Vaccines don’t come from McDonalds

  • AutismDad

    plopaganda

  • Free People

    “Science is but a perversion of itself unless it has, as its ultimate goal, the
    betterment of humanity.” — Nicola Tesla

    And in the CRIMINAL $cience of VAXINC, it’s not only a perversion but also MURDER in the first degree.

  • AutismDad

    And welcome to the vaccine brainwashed club. Can I get you something? Coffee, Tea, MMR?

  • AutismDad

    Its an upgrade from what he is generally called.

  • Christopher Kidder

    Do you know what an internet troll is? I am sorry you feel this way. I have asked simple questions. Are we not free thinkers anymore? Can I not ask a few simple questions? Can I not send my regards to the mother and her family? A troll is someone looking to start confrontation. Why is it, whenever someone poses a question, they are referred to as a troll? I have even been referred to as a Nazi Propaganda slinging troll…. how is that even closely related to my responses. You guys trashing me really think I am unemployed, a piece of garbage, and someone who works for the pharma industry? Because I have asked objective questions? This is truly distressing. Most of us can’t even have a normal conversation anymore and debate peacefully. I don’t need to sling any profanities or be rude. But you guys are right… I will move on. Thank you all for reminding me why I rarely inquire/probe about issues I read about on the internet.

  • Christopher Kidder

    Wow… thanks for sharing. There are tons of claimants on there. Is this just children?

  • Free People

    Yup, ‘many cling to BELIEFS’ yes, especially to the well-packaged web of VACCINATION LIES handed down through the generations and propagandized by the Tel-LIE-Vision. “ask your doctor if this is right for you.” Yup, just do as the white coat say$$$$$.

    There is a distinct difference between having logic and an open mind and having a hole in your head from which your brain leaks out.

  • Andrew Kasch

    Too bad there’s no vaccine for stupidity.

  • Free People

    Yup, too bad..I feel for ya…you need about 20 of them at once.

  • Free People

    Hhah! Can dish it out but can’t take the heat…yes MOVE ON over to The Daily Beast..they love ya’ll over there.

  • nworder

    Yes move onto your next assignment – no one believes a word you say. Repent of your lies and get a real job.

    Compare Dr Hadwen’s character to your own – He was an honest doctor who fought the superstition of vaccination all his life free of charge – he saved millions from this holocaust as eventually his and other’s truth won through and there is now no compulsory vaccination in Europe. But the vaccine mafia are trying to bring it back with their bribery and corruption and you wake up every day to help them for a pittance !!
    There ARE honest jobs around – get one .

    Dr Hadwen :-

    THE HISTORY OF SMALL-POX IN GERMANY.

    They say, “Look at Prussia, and the way vaccination has stamped out small-pox there.”

    Very well, we will look at Prussia, which, I may say, has kept better vaccination records than any other country in Europe, except, perhaps, Sweden. In 1834, which is twenty years before England adopted the Compulsory Vaccination Act, so severe was the Act in Prussia that, in addition to primary vaccination, every child had to be vaccinated over again when he started upon his school life; he had to be re-vaccinated on going from college to college; and re-vaccinated over again when he entered the Army, which meant every healthy male out of the whole of Prussia.

    And so severe was the Act that if any man refused to be vaccinated he was ordered to be held down and vaccinated by force; and so thoroughly was it done that he was vaccinated in ten places on each arm. That was stiff enough for anybody, I should think. (Laughter,).

    In 1871-2-—thirty-five years after this Compulsory Vaccination Act—came the terrible epidemic which swept all over Europe. It came to Prussia, and what was the result? In that year small-pox carried off no less than 124,978 of her vaccinated and re-vaccinated citizens after thirty-five years of compulsory vaccination of the description which I have referred to!

    This roused Prussia, and she began to look about her; she saw the cause, and she was determined to remedy it. She brought good water into her cities, purified her river Spree, introduced a complete drainage system throughout the country—(loud cheers)—she got rid of her “rookeries,” and ordered model barracks to be built for the soldiers; and away fled the small-pox, like the Philistines before the Children of Israel. Sanitation did for Prussia what 35 years of compulsory vaccination was unable to accomplish. At the present time in Prussia small-pox is almost extinct. (Cheers.) It is not that people ‘are being vaccinated more; they are vaccinated less. (Hear, hear.)

    They hate it in Germany as we English people do; and you can now get out of vaccination there by the payment of a shilling fine. Even the very children in Germany know well enough how it is hated, and in proof of this I may relate to you an amusing incident –
    A school inspector went to one of the schools the other day and asked the question of the class, “Why was Moses hidden by his mother in the bullrushes?” Very soon a little fellow put up his hand and replied, “Please sir, she did not want him to be vaccinated.” (Loud laughter.)

  • nworder

    You’d be first in line for 100 !

  • Free People

    Didn’t like my answer…too bad. You work for the Holy church of biological my$tici$m CULT – Vaccines.

  • The symptoms she describes are the ones nurses are familiar with, including the scream and the crying. People say ‘vaccine’ as if that were one thing. A vaccine before the criminals got their hands on making them was not the same: It did not have heavy metal, aborted fetal tissue, mercury (thimerosal), aluminum, and simian virus infected tissues, etc. So you are not comparing the same thing when you say the old vaccines saved the world. They were not the same thing medical child molesters are pushing today.

  • TellItAsIs99

    Mandatory harm and death at the start and end of life; we need another Nuremberg trial.
    Another deadly and controversial treatment is the mandatory Russian roulette stroke drug. The clot-buster drug for heart and lung blood clots has proven test trial and community hospital use results but for a non-life threathening ischemic clot stroke it’s just the deadly opposite. Brain cells die within minutes of being deprived of blood in an ischemic stroke and the drug is being given hours later in the ER. Stroke clot-buster drugs have a history of deadly failed test trials and the 1995 NINDS trial claiming a possible long term recovery benefit is highly controversial. Stroke TPA does not save a person’s life but can end it with it’s signficant risk of causing a fatal brain bleeding hemorrhage.
    The NINDS stroke TPA trial data showed a 16% deadly hemorrhage rate for patients over 80. Europe does not approve approve stroke TPA for those over 80 but here in the US there is no such restriction. Protocol errors and BP management failures are both common and make the deadly hemorrhage risk even higher. Recent AHA Guidelines for Acute Stroke which hospitals follow state that stroke TPA can be given without consent. And many states now have low economic damage caps like California’s MICRA law making it impossible to obtain an attorney in a wrongful death malpractice case when the victim has no job income(retirees).
    Hospitals should require a pre-stroke consent decision before stroke TPA is given. This is a basic patient right to consent. Other safer stroke recovery treatments are available like physical therapies and low risk drugs like Embrel. Search: AAEM TPA position, The NNT TPA stroke or in ER emergency blogs for the stroke TPA drug controversy or http://www.stroketreatmentrisktpa.co.nf .

  • Andrew Kasch

    The only lies here are being peddled by the New Age snake oil salesmen who claim that nature is healthier than modern science:

    http://now.snopes.com/2015/04/22/thewholepantry-belle-gibson/#imGVpQCELT9Svpzm.01

  • Hush

    Hey, what do you have against princess Fiona?? Princess Fiona was beautiful inside.

  • guest

    So this has what to do with the fact her child died after receiving 13 vaccines in one visit?

    -Vaccines Proven To Cause Sudden Death In Children
    A confidential, 1271 page GSK document ordered recently by an Italian
    Court to be published shows that multiple vaccines cause sudden child
    deaths. [The document is a formal confidential previously unpublished
    submission by GlaxoSmithKline to the European Medicines Agency from 2011and 2012.]

    The GSK document contains data about deaths occurring as a result of administration of Prevenar 13 vaccine [from Pfizer], Infanrix Hexa from GSK and some other vaccines. Prevenar 13 is given to all British children.

    Here is the key point from the published analysis [but there is more to read online]. It is not rocket science, but very simple to understand:

    (Source: Table 36 The GlaxoSmithKline Biological Clinical Safety and Pharmacovigilance report to Regulatory Authority)
    “… if one analyzes the data looking at deaths in first 10 days after
    administration of vaccine and compares it to the deaths in the next 10
    days, it is clear that 97% of deaths (65 deaths) in the infants below 1
    year, occur in the first 10 days and 3% (2 deaths) occur in the next 10
    days. Had the deaths been coincidental SIDS deaths unrelated to
    vaccination, the numbers of deaths in the two 10 day periods should have
    been the same. Similarly in children older than 1 year, 87.5% deaths (7
    deaths) occurred in the first 10 days and 12.5% (1 death) occurred in
    the next 10 days.

    Hum Vaccin Immunother. 2014;10(1):129-37. doi: 10.4161/hv.26269. Epub 2013 Sep 4.
    *Combined hexavalent diphtheria-tetanus-acellular pertussis-hepatitis
    B-inactivated poliovirus-Haemophilus influenzae type B vaccine;
    Infanrix™ hexa: twelve years of experience in Italy.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih (dot) gov/pubmed/24004825#cm24004825_8656

  • Christopher Kidder

    Now I see who the troll really is… and so will any reader. Good day.

  • AutismDad

    I hope for your sake there will be one day. Chin up Andrew

  • Christopher Kidder

    I see what you guys are doing. Congrats on the intolerance.

  • Christopher Kidder

    you fail to see the point…. as do most here. Effing TROLLS and your ignorance. Go to school people.

  • AutismDad

    Its your comparison HOMER….doh!

  • Christopher Kidder

    How do you feel when more people die because they don’t have a vaccine/medical attention/resources? TROLL…. I saw all your posts all day. You are the TROLL. Hiding behind your computer, saying whatever uneducated thing you can think of…. TROLL. You want to talk about unemployed? You’re employed…. to do the devil’s work…. to make sure people stay ignorant. All I see here is YOUR dirty work. You should opt out of ALL modern medicine you creep! I love how internet TROLLS hide behind their computers all day long and feel safe. Come into my world…. I dare you.

  • Christopher Kidder

    Your name says it all smh

  • AutismDad

    Your pic says it all…ew

  • Heaven Northrop

    I call BS a simple search of the name Alisa Neathery reveals this article and little else. If this was a REAL story with a REAL desperate mother trying to spread the word she would have reached out to more reputable news sources. Research 101 if you can only find the story on 1 website it is Bunkiss!

  • AutismDad

    Need a tissue baby?

  • AutismDad

    Someone has lost it….ha ha

  • GoFundMe

    Correct, Heaven. The authors on this website troll news outlets for articles about babies that died, then make up details and construct a sad story that blames it all on vaccines.
    Why? Well the purpose is down at the bottom. PLEASE give to the ‘fund’ set up in the baby’s name.
    Apparently, this is the only way Christina gets paid for being a ‘journalist’.

  • GoFundMe

    Correct, Heaven. The authors on this website troll news outlets for articles about babies that died, then make up details and construct a sad story that blames it all on vaccines.
    Why? Well the purpose is down at the bottom. PLEASE give to the ‘fund’ set up in the baby’s name.
    Apparently, this is the only way Christina gets paid for being a ‘journalist’.

  • guest

    -GoFundMe account for her-
    Don’t like it—Don’t contribute.

    -After researching this case;
    Please provide us with your research data.

    -has any legal action against them
    There would not be duh!!!! You know why, everyone involved in the voodoo practice of vaccination has blanket immunity. Who would go through the process of filing paperwork for a case that has no chance of going forward.

    -in any point in their careers. Both are in good standing with the Texas Medical Board and have positive ratings from patients.
    Josef Mengele was also in good medical standing. Piggy back this response with the response above. No lawsuit, no red mark in the books.
    Do a thoroughly check throughout the entire US and see just how many doctors who are designated as in good standing yet have been sued multiple times. The old boys network is alive and well.

    -But why hasn’t she filed suit?
    How long have you been doing this? Oh yea, just 2 comments so you’re new. Why hasn’t she filed suit. She was probably told-BLANKET IMMUNITY.

    -This is a fear-mongering story and is being cited as a scare tactic to not vaccinate your child.
    How so???? Please elaborate. If you say the doctor is in good standing, no lawsuits and it most likely didn’t make the newspapers and if it did you can bet the corporate owned media came down on the side of the doctor so how is this fear mongering?

    -I want to re-point to the fact that the mother’s older child was removed
    from her care for **months** after the her infant’s death (which was
    ruled by the MA/coroner as SIDS/SUDS).

    SIDS is not a medical diagnosis. Can it be lab confirmed? Can it be seen on a slide. DO YOU KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT IS IN THE AUTOPSY? No you don’t. If the medical examiner heard the word VACCINES, he could have filled out the death certificate blind folded as SIDS. There is not a medical examiner in the US that will torpedo their career by saying a baby’s death was a result of being vaccinated. That is career suicide. More than likely medical examiners take this route when confronted with a vaccine killed child:
    New Zealand Pathologist, Dr. John Rutherford, reportedly
    stated that he hid the cause of death of a teenage girl to prevent scaring
    parents away from the Gardasil HPV vaccine. http://sanevax (dot) org/?s=Jasmine+Renata%2C&cat=0

    *Prior to the introduction of organized vaccination programs, “crib
    death” was so rare that it was not mentioned in infant mortality
    statistics. In the United States, national immunization campaigns were
    initiated in the 1960s when several new vaccines were introduced and
    promoted. For the first time in history, most U.S. infants were required
    to receive several doses of DPT (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus), polio, and measles vaccines.
    By 1969, an alarming epidemic of sudden unexplained infant deaths
    impelled researchers to create a new medical term — sudden infant death
    syndrome (SIDS). By 1972, SIDS had become the leading cause of post-neonatal mortality (deaths of infants from 28 days to one year old) in the United States. In 1973, the National Center for Health Statistics, operated by the CDC, created a new cause-of-death category to document deaths due to SIDS.

    The baby was given 2 doses of the DPT. This vaccines has been linked to more children’s deaths than any other vaccines.
    -Fundam Clin Pharmacol. 1995;9(3):263-70.
    Sudden infant death syndrome and diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis-poliomyelitis vaccination status.
    -Pediatr Infect Dis. 1983 Jan-Feb;2(1):7-11.
    Possible temporal association between diphtheria-tetanus toxoid-pertussis vaccination and sudden infant death syndrome.
    -Bergman AB. The “Discovery” of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. New York, NY, USA: Praeger Publishers, 1986: 209 (Appendix III).
    -MacDorman MF and Rosenberg HM. Trends in infant mortality by cause of death and other characteristics, 1960-88 (vital and health statistics), Volume 20. Hyattsville,MD, USA: National Center for Health Statistics, U.S. Government Printing, 1993.
    -Noble GR., et al. Acellular and whole-cell pertussis vaccines in Japan: report of a visit by U.S. scientists. JAMA 1987; 257: 1351-56.

    What is your point about the Mom other child being taken away? Now days, removing a child from a home for no reason has become the norm-not an exception. Children in protective care such as CPS or whatever individual state call their state agencies is big business. The federal government gives these agencies substantial money for the care of these children and money for maintenance to the agencies. The more children in care-the more money. Medical Kidnap-http://medicalkidnap.com/.

  • guest

    Did you forget you already asked that question earlier in this comment thread. What’s wrong with your memory? Too many vaccines laced with aluminum, mercury, aborted fetal cells, bovine cells, fetal calf bovine cells, pig cells, chicken embryo, MSG, neomycin, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80, sodium chloride, soy peptone, dextrose, mineral salts, amino acids,yeast protein,
    insect cell and viral protein just to name a few screwing with your neurological system causing memory loss?

  • Free People

    Playing Libtard Troll now? ‘intolerance’?…hahahaha!

    Who in their right mind TOLERATES death by vaccine!

  • Free People

    Snopes?..Hahahah! What a joke..like wikiLIES..pure BS! This is what you get for going there.

    ‘New Age? ‘Snake oil’? Hah! You claiming the greatest thinkers of all time to include Hippocrates, the father of medicine, and others in the know, were ‘New Age snake oil salesmen’. Right. Like you know anything – troll.

    “Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food” — Hippocrates

    “Nature itself is the best physician.” — Hippocrates

    “First, do no harm.” — Hippocratic Oath which has become the Hypocrisy Oath..for the PROFIT$$$$!

    “One of the first duties of the ‘physician’ is to EDUCATE the masses NOT to take medicine.” — Sir William Osler

    “Science is but a perversion of itself unless it has, as its ultimate goal, the betterment of humanity.” — Nicola Tesla

    “Conscientious objectors to vaccination should stand alone, if need be, against the whole world, in defence of their conviction.” — Mahatma Gandhi

    The human body is a child of Nature and functions according to rules of Nature, and not those of mechanistic
    (Frankenstein) $cience.

    Especially for you: “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity.” — Albert Einstein

  • Tracy Sischo
  • Tracy Sischo
  • Tracy Sischo

    Seriously people, this is the internet. We’re all capable of using Google. Here’s two separate links listed below with this families story. Get a hobby that makes sense & do some real research.

  • GoFundMe

    And where is the answer?

  • Andrew Kasch

    You’re the one who brought up Hippocrates in some feeble attempt to change the argument. I’m talking about the modern all-natural “health expert” frauds who started this whole anti-vax nonsense to begin with. They’re charlatans who are selling their own homeopathic garbage…and you saps buy into it while making the world a sicker and stupider place.

    Don’t trust Snopes? Fine. Here’s another link:
    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/cancer-blogger-belle-gibson-now-sick/story?id=30526980
    and another…
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/apr/24/belle-gibsons-cancer-lie-is-the-tedious-fulfilment-of-new-age-thought
    and another….
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/04/24/what-was-fake-on-the-internet-this-week-belle-gibson-isis-in-mexico-and-insane-weather-news/

    You know what you can’t find – any other news story about this article. A search for Alisa Neathery only yields this website. So as far as I’m concerned, this story has been completely made up, just like all the crap posted on Natural News. Congrats on getting suckered again by outright lies.

    Keep throwing around quotes you Goggled to try and make yourself seem intelligent. Your rhetoric is the same conspiracy BS heard from 9/11 truthers and AIDS deniers.

  • againstcorporaterule

    The media is owned by 6 corporations. Corporations are required by law to put profits before human welfare…. So, if you want to put your trust in corporate media and the multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical industry to tell you the truth about these things, then that is your funeral.

  • guest

    If you have been reading this site for a number of years I have been here and have contributed significant information that moves the dialogue forward, not backwards or not at all. You and the others are here at the behest of your handlers who are employed by either the US government or the pharmaceutical industry. You answered one of those ads on a social site such as this:

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    Use the email provided by Indeed.com
    Once your resume has been reviewed, you will contacted for an interview, if we feel you are a right fit for our company. Thank you for your time, and we look forward to meeting with you.

    You are and the others such as dana, gofundme, Heaven Northrop, dana, capt.ron, christopher kidder, Andrew Kasch, billed , megan lee,-just name a few of your co-horts in crime, sole purpose on this board is to create doubt, ridicule, harass, bully, present misinformation, use hit & run comments such as your continual focus on the go fund page to disparage the Mom by implying she’s after something and that’s the reason this article is here. You people (I use the word loosely) use whatever means to push your masters agenda. You lie, you make constant snide remarks that are designed to create anger and frustration to others on the board who want to engage in an intelligent exchange of the topic but that’s not what trolls want to happen. You know there are a couple of names the government websites have given trolls who show up on comment boards in drove like you guys:
    Gang-Stalkers or Troll Trains.

    What really outed you and your ilk is the Scripted Comments that have been posted on the last 3 stories on Vac Truth. All you guys needed to do was change the names, insert information that is germane to the story at hand and post. Intelligence not needed.

    Yes, I will call out trolls when they are obvious. You guys are obvious. A recent study posted in Psyc Central confirmed people who troll are Machiavellian Sadist. They should be exposed for what they are: http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2014/02/16/trolls-just-want-to-have-fun/

  • Free People

    Correct “defending all vaccinations” and I would add defending even MonSatan. True Troll.

  • guest

    Wow, thanks for the update. It’s bad enough she defends killing children but if she defends companies that are killing the bees??? If you kill the bees-you kill all of us!

  • Free People

    Oh wait….4 troll colleagues voted you up! what a team!

  • guest

    Did you read the information under the image:
    Two doses of the DTaP – diptheria, tetanus and pertussis (whooping cough).

    I worked in CPS for a number of years and what was given to this baby unfortunately is not out of the ordinary. DPT has the highest after death rate than any vaccine.

    131 Ways for an Infant to Die Vaccines and Sudden Death
    http://thinktwice (dot) com/131_ways_for_an_infant_to_die.pdf
    -Pharmacoepidemiol Drug Saf. 2001 Jun-Jul;10(4):279-85.
    The epidemiology of fatalities reported to the vaccine adverse event reporting system 1990-1997.
    -Med Hypotheses. 2010 Jan;74(1):150-4. doi: 10.1016/j.mehy.2009.07.014. Epub 2009 Aug 5.
    Revisiting the possibility of serious adverse events from the whole cell pertussis vaccine: were metabolically vulnerable children at risk?

    *A confidential, 1271 page GSK document ordered recently by an Italian Court to be published shows that multiple vaccines cause sudden child deaths. [The document is a formal confidential previously unpublished submission by GlaxoSmithKline to the European Medicines Agency from 2011 and 2012.]
    -Hum Vaccin Immunother. 2014;10(1):129-37. doi: 10.4161/hv.26269. Epub 2013 Sep 4.
    Combined hexavalent diphtheria-tetanus-acellular pertussis-hepatitis B-inactivated poliovirus-Haemophilus influenzae type B vaccine; Infanrix™ hexa: twelve years of experience in Italy.

    (Source: Table 36 The GlaxoSmithKline Biological Clinical Safety and Pharmacovigilance report to Regulatory Authority)”… if one analyzes the data looking at deaths in first 10 days after administration of vaccine and compares it to the deaths in the next 10 days, it is clear that 97% of deaths (65 deaths) in the infants below 1 year, occur in the first 10 days and 3% (2 deaths) occur in the next 10
    days. Had the deaths been coincidental SIDS deaths unrelated to vaccination, the numbers of deaths in the two 10 day periods should have been the same. Similarly in children older than 1 year, 87.5% deaths (7 deaths) occurred in the first 10 days and 12.5% (1 death) occurred in the next 10 days.”
    http://www.greenmedinfo (dot) com/blog/vaccines-proven-cause-sudden-death-children

    “It also seems quite bizarre to start up a gofundme page years after the death of the child.”
    If it bothers you-don’t contribute.

  • uhhuh

    Alisa, I am so sorry. I’m crying even as I write this. My nephew died from “SIDS” at 5.5 months of age one week after his first vaccines. He was a beautiful peaceful child and loved dearly. I saw the pain my sister went through and am sorry you too are experiencing this. Know she had 4 more beautiful healthy children after. Baby Brian lives on in our hearts and has kept me strong in the fight to keep his cousins vaccine free. I’m sorry for your pain and I’m sorry for the ignorance you are facing in others. Keep strong momma.

  • Free People

    Good post.

  • uhhuh

    Allowed them? You moron. They are the ones that have taken an oath to “do no harm.” And are fighting to mandate these poisonous shots! What’s wrong with you????

  • guest

    I’m impressed you could string together so many nonsensical words in one sentence. Well, not really.

    Not my place to defend the behaviors of others. If they want to contribute, so be it. It they don’t-they don’t. It’s a consciousness choice. something you seem to be lacking.

    If you read the article rather than do you knee jerk posting for pay you’d know the M.E. called the death SIDS. However the Mom has posted on this comment board so why don’t you ask her?

    For future reference for your trolling-don’t use the word conspiracy. It’s a red neon light that identifies you as a troll.

    J. Edgar Hoover said the existence of the Mafia was a conspiracy. When the Tuskegee Syphilis Study was revealed the racist of the country said it was a conspiracy. Other “conspiracies” The existence of MK-ULTRA, Operation Mockingbird. Operation Paperclip,Watergate,
    Operation Northwoods, Counter Intelligence Programs Against Activists in the 60s, Iran-Contra Affair,
    July 20, 1944 Conspiracy to Assassinate Hitler, Cancer Viruses Into Our Vaccines and there are more.

    The person who calls yells conspiracy or conspiracy theory is the one who is engaging in a coverup or a conspiracy themselves.

    “Prescription Drugs Kill Large Numbers Of Americans” | Source: http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/07/16-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true.html
    “Prescription Drugs Kill Large Numbers Of Americans” | Source: http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/07/16-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true.html

  • Free People

    ” I have been here and have contributed significant information that moves the dialogue forward, not backwards or not at all. You and the others are here at the behest of your handlers who are employed by either the US government or the pharmaceutical industry.”

    Very WELL PUT and true. Thanks for your posts!

  • Those of us who have independently researched vaccines, realize that there exist thousands of vaccine injured children, and with the evidence of countless infants that have died after vaccines. Your refuse to get educated ignorance, and your claim of no existing proof ever, and your denial of all; is and amounts to the real and true existing evil.

  • It is NOT rare! Wake up and do some unbiased research.

  • It takes endless hours, weeks, months and years to adequately research this entire subject matter, and you want it all spoon fed to you, on one page? If you do not want to independently educate yourself, then do not demand and put it on the reply commenters here, to do it for you.

  • Wrong. We can all see how twisted and delusional you are, and that you choose to remain.

  • This is not a spelling contest. Does spelling, and or any spelling errors point out and reveal truth verses fiction? Fact, verses bull crap? I think not. You have been reading and focusing on that worn out pro-vaccine debate manual for a but to long, and not realized how failed it has been on every level.

    And here we have it, and like it is; straight from the provax thinking bible of false vaccine propaganda.

    First They Came for the Anti-Vaxxers

    By Bretigne Shaffer

    April 23, 2015

    1. Make it clear that parents who choose not to vaccinate their children are only getting their information from Jenny McCarthy, Jim Carey and other celebrities with absolutely no scientific credentials.

    2. Always equate the views of the CDC, medical journals and pharmaceutical company spokespeople with “science.” Some people will try to tell you that science is a method, not a conclusion, that scientific truths cannot be determined by consensus or by appeal to authority, but you can just ignore them.

    3. Remind your readers that, however heart wrenching or tragic, anecdotal accounts are just that. They are not scientific, they don’t say anything about relative risk, and should play no role in influencing your opinion about vaccines.

    4. Remind your readers that “correlation is not causation.”
    Unless you want to show them this graph and tell them it proves that vaccines save lives:
    Whatever you do though, make sure you don’t accidentally show them this graph instead:

    5. Whenever possible, present the debate as if there are no legitimate reasons to choose not to vaccinate – only “personal beliefs” and “irrational fears.”

    6. If you must acknowledge that critics of vaccines have actual reasons for their concerns, restrict the discussion to the fear that vaccines may cause autism, and be sure to stress that the only basis for this concern is the retracted 1998 study by Andrew Wakefield.

    Be SURE you never show them and/or acknowledge any of THESE studies which support and even replicated the same findings as Dr Wakefield found in his study!

    Research References, (endless)
    http://www.callous-disregard.com/research.htm

    7. When in doubt, pepper your stories with some of the following affirmations. Remember: The more you say them, the truer they become: “Vaccines save lives”; “parents who don’t vaccinate are selfish” (“ignorant”, “anti-science” and “hippies” all work well too.); and above all: “the science is settled.”

    8. Don’t even address vaccines directly. Simply include some mention of vaccine skepticism as an example of the kind of irrational thinking some people (especially, strangely, well-educated ones) still engage in despite “everyone knowing” how foolish it is.

    9. If the icky topic of conflict of interest or corruption of the research by vested interests comes up, just laugh it off. Remember: Writing in a derisive tone about other people’s claims or concerns is exactly the same as refuting them.

    10. “Muh Herd Immunity!”

    Remind your readers of our long-treasured right to herd immunity: The right to demand – at gunpoint if necessary – that others take every possible precaution against contracting communicable diseases, regardless of the risks to themselves of doing so. This is a right our forefathers fought and died for and we’re not about to give it up now.

    Read more:
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/04/bretigne-shaffer/first-they-came-for-the-anti-vaxxers/

    Here is another expose in regard to the pro-vax use of their nonsense defenses.

    A very accurate assessment of the real situation.
    By Julie Obradovic

    1. They believe there is an anti-vaccine movement.
    2. Anyone who disagrees with them is an idiot.
    3. They falsely blame Dr. Wakefield for everything.
    4. They just don’t get it.
    5. They repeatedly distort or exaggerate the facts.
    6. They pretend to be the gatekeepers of science.
    7. They fail to acknowledge the context of the controversy.
    8. They over-simplify the problem
    9. They have no hypothesis.
    10. They have an excuse for everything.
    11. They fail to recognize their tactics aren’t working.

    http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/02/the-trouble-with-the-anti-anti-vaccine-movement-how-they-hijack-the-issue-distort-the-facts-and-tota.html

    Laura Hayes NO ON SB277 speech Sacramento at The Capitol on April 8, 2015
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WWEiEPUWSU

  • Free People

    My post stands like it or not. Alternative medicine, real medicine, is the ‘original medicine’ that humans have been using for thousands of years. Chemical medications were discovered about a 100 years ago..and they don’t work. They kill hundreds of thousands every year. It’s a business to create MORE illnesses requiring MORE synthetic, chemically based so-called ‘medicine’, and that’s FACT. Creates revolving door customers for life living a poor quality of life until they die.

    I’m very good at wording my searches to filter out the crap like the links you provide..cbs, wapo, snopes, science BS, come on now. You provide garbage to these blogs because you’re just a troll.

    The CONspiracy is what the medico mafia/pHARMafia and government agencies are doing to the people. Wake the flock up and quit that diabolical job.

  • Free People

    “ACCURATE information, HONEST information, TRUTHFUL information should be used.” – something very FOREIGN to you and your colleagues ey!

  • Andrew Kasch

    And yet the average life expectancy is almost double what it was 100 years ago. Do the math.

    The only conspiracy is in your mind. And you’ll find that out the hard way when you use some quack alternative medicine to try and stop a serious illness.

  • Free People

    Quack is chemical medicine and the quacktors who push it.

  • Free People

    Great post here Lowell Hubbs! I had to laugh because it’s oh so true! Thanks!

  • Annette

    According to the medical record you posted, There were only 6 shots given. The other six entries are for the administration fee (90460) not 6 additional shots. It’s not unusual to get 6 vaccines. Sorry for your loss.

  • Cricket
  • Cricket

    Why do you upvote yourself?

  • nworder

    Your figures are BS. Troll guff.
    But vaccines never extended anyone’s life .

    It was hygiene , better food, sanitation and an easier life that extended lives not allopathetic medicine which kills in the millions .
    But power crazed doctors who want to force sell you their vaccines and poisonous drugs took the credit.
    Primitive societies with good food had people living to their hundreds.
    This generation of americans are reversing this trend and are living sickened and what will be shortened lives of a very low “health” quality.

  • Puck

    Na, renee wasnt rude. not their fault you don’t understand the difference between causation and correlation. Don’t worry thou, one day you may get it.

  • Puck

    Does spelling matter, probably not. But it may help if you stopped spewing your bs.

  • nworder

    Wars dont cause death since causation is not correlation and correlation is not causation – lol

    The strange minds of pharma trolls – these kind of sickos would have volunteered for camp guard duties assuring the Jews that they were only going for a shower.

  • nworder

    Puck the magic troll in his new identity. You pucking make me sick with your lies on vaccination infant kills.
    Have you signed up as a fema camp guard yet completing your illustrious career.

  • Puck

    Since this site deletes my posts, i can only reply with GFY

  • nworder

    Good post – america is now run by a medical mafia with no more conscience than the camp guards during the holocaust and over time they are killing more than WW2 did with their three remedies – abortion , vaccination and toxic phamaceuticals.

  • nworder

    But you get paid for telling stinking lies for a few dollars and you know your lying for a little cash – supporting the murder of babies with vaccines.
    You think you can do this without it affecting you but this will be your deadly mistake since it will affect your life outside of your lying job.
    So get an honest job and you will wake up feeling good instead of doing this despicable work.
    The stinking rich pharma executives dont care whether you live or die .

  • Puck

    oh as an aside, the fact you think naturalnews is a reputable site brings your credibility into question.

  • Puck

    Ty, that’s one of the dumbest things ive ever read

  • nworder

    I dont take vaccines or pharma drugs and have clear thinking with a healthy diet . My children and grandchildren avoid vaccination and have no health problems at all.

    Your life now is based on lying for rich pharma executives – what an existence you have – you would not know truth if it hit you on the nose.
    Shovelling cow dung would be breath of fresh air compared to your job.

  • nworder

    Good post – the trolls will end up in pshychiatric wards getting force fed SSRI’s – their life of lies will eventually bring them down.

  • gin11153

    This is not a case of vaccinating or not. This is a case of medical malpractice because the doctor ordered 2 or 3 doses of the same vaccine, something never ever done. Plus the medical assistant must have known it was wrong to give a double or triple dose so she is guilty of malpractice too.

  • nworder

    You have partially described the pharma industry – but the proper description is that they kill defenseless babies and adults for money .
    You are in a lying cult making much smaller amounts of money than the pharma execs for lying .
    Is there a job lower than what you have ended up in ?

  • nworder

    Emily but if you go back in history the older vaccines never saved the world either – although having no metals they were full of bacterial and virus filth that the medics did not even know of.

    Eg Pus from a horses hoof etc.

    The millions that died from the 1918 flu had been vaccinated with a syringe full of pus (not a flu jab) just a concoction which killed sometimes in one day. It started with vaccination of american soldiers in WW1.

    If this crap did not kill you right away the medicmadmen gave massive over doses of aspirin which would have killed a horse.

    Those who avoided the needle did not get ill – if you read the army reports.

    Dr Hadwen’s lectures – online :-

    SMALL-POX EPIDEMICS IN ENGLAND.

    “We will now come nearer home and take the Metropolitan Asylums Board and their statistics.
    From 1870 to 1886 there were 53,579 cases of small-pox, and out of that number there were 43,919 who had undergone the process spoken of by Sir John Simon as “removing every taint of susceptibility to infection..(IE VACCINATION) ……..”

  • I have read some of this, but I have also read the initiation of vaccines: Milkmaids who caught cowpox did not get smallpox. Smallpox was truly a dread disease. The book Idaho Loners has a hideous account of its progress in its victims. That is what started vaccines.
    Seems to me the first vaccines did have preventative effects.
    Finding the original personal histories would be quite a dig. An investigative journalist would be able – perhaps – to take the story from the original milkmaid sequences to the early vaccines.
    I don’t know what you have read, so I … well … don’t know. But I have not written off those very early efforts.

  • nworder

    The dairy maid thing was a fraud invented by Jenner an unqualified charlatan who killed his own son with this very smallpox vaccine.
    Google “Dr Hadwen on vaccinations” to get the full story. Smallpox in a healthy individual was easily survivable – especially if you did not get vaccinated. Vaccination was always a fraud.

  • sabelmouse

    you do realise that this person is not a native english speaker and possibly uses a not well working translation device.
    i bet you’re one of those people who shouts about speaking english to someone on their 3rd language while you just about speak one.

  • sabelmouse

    yeah, spelling maketh the wo/man. meanwhile it seems that you have actually nothing of any worth to say.

  • I shall do that. Not right away, not right now.
    My information is personal accounts in very very old books that I remember.
    Thank you

  • nworder

    Renee is a farmasootical eggsecutive boot licquor .

    But she knows how to submit her troll cash timesheet

  • sabelmouse

    i thought as much.

  • ScubaTeacher

    How do you know this happened? The card does not indicate that occurred.

  • Eevie

    Now you are just being obtuse. People like you are the reason vaccines are still dangerous instead of being made safe. Vaccines in Europe don’t screw up and kill their children.Wake up! It’s an agenda. No one in their right minds injects mercury into a living breathing body. That is insanity, yet they are making it illegal for you not to poison your children. Do you see it yet……

  • nworder

    Still happens in Europe – its just that america has an annihilation vaccine schedule at above 50 vaccines for an infant – more than any other country. Plus many dont get vaccinated – the authorities always downplay this number but I know it is much greater.

    There is less vaccination in Europe due to the pharma nazis having less control over the health systems but its still the same jabs – full of toxic crap from the pit of hell.

    The 1st day baby jabs in america should be called the holocaust vaccine.

  • AutismDad

    Andrew I hope and pray for you. A vaccine may be close, hang in their and hope for the best.

  • AutismDad

    Would you like a place? I can always use a few bucks

  • totally agree with you.

  • John

    Yes, I’m heavily into research and look for the truth and my group is NOT being funded by any drug company or financially interested party in the outcome.

    There is a tremendous flood of money flowing into the media and politicians to support this insanity. There are many contributors to the now epidemic disorders and diseases being created by so called modern medicine, our department of agriculture, the FDA, CDC, and many organizations that are being controlled by corporations with big bags of money! They have learned to use the internet, media being controlled by a few people with an agenda that are not in the best interest of a very naive public.

    As an example of some information that will get you started on your search, look up the term “Zeta Potential of blood.” Then look up Aluminum studies these idiots are using to tell people aluminum in the blood stream is no problem based on studies that are focused on ingesting aluminum and then using that information to confuse, deceive, and lie about it’s affects on the Zeta Potential in the blood! Just that alone should clue you into how these guys are manipulating data and creating smoke screens to confuse the public. Then once you have done that, ask your doctor to show you the safety studies in those Vaccine circulars they get on each vaccine to show you any vaccine has been tested for safety for the elderly & the very young they say are in the high risk group!

    Now ask yourself why the FDA would outlaw using dark field microscopy live blood analysis that can show a problem with the Zeta Potential from a before and and an after analysis?

    Those things are just the tip of the iceberg!

  • John

    If you happen to think for one moment that medical malpractice is rare, you need to speak to my wife that is a court reporter and sat through 25 years of medical malpractice depositions and hear the stories day in and day out! You would never see a doctor again without getting many more opinions on any diagnosis!

  • John

    I did follow his work for 7 years and did huge amount of independent work and am now working on many advanced research using his basic work as a starting point. Many new studies regarding EMF and GMO herbicides have added greatly to his basic concepts supporting his work incredibly. Worked with people that knew him personally and his work as well. Good observation. Thank you.

  • John

    We have a huge disconnect in America today between REAL SCIENCE and media spin being funded by large corporations that have learned to use the internet & media giving BAD SCIENCE to a very naive public!

    ALL DRUGS are toxins. What happens to any living organism that has to deal with lots of toxins, especially combinations of toxins that have never been tested. Any person that takes more than 4 or 5 medications at one time has just created a molecule of unknown effects! Now that is HIGH RISK behavior! Trusting our medical system today for health is like trusting your hair dresser to work on your automatic transmission.

    In July 2004, Gary Null Ph.D, Carolyn Dean M.D., N.D, Martin Feldman M.D., Debora Rasio M.D., Dorothy Smith Ph.D. wrote a paper that revealed very disturbing facts regarding an annual iatrogenic (induced inadvertently by a physician or surgeon or by medical treatment or diagnostic procedures) death rate of 783,936 in one year. It is further disturbing to realize that as few as 5 percent and only up to 20 percent of iatrogenic acts are ever reported. This means that iatrogenic death rate of 783,936 is much higher.

    As we look at the causes of death from degenerative diseases and other causes in America in 2004, it is obvious we are not good at solving this problem on any level. Deaths from: Heart Disease 652,000, Cancer 553,000, and Stroke 150,000.

    When comparing the iatrogenic acts of modern medicine in America with the statistical numbers of people dying of any particular disease, it is evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States. And when we look at the cost of these iatrogenic deaths, the cost is in the billions.

    And people just blindly trust these people! Amazing.

    A
    definitive review and close reading of medical peer-review journals, and
    government health statistics shows that American medicine frequently causes
    more harm than good. The number of
    people having in-hospital, adverse drug reactions (ADR) to prescribed medicine
    is 2.2 million. Dr. Richard Besser, of
    the CDC, in 1995, said the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed
    annually for viral infections was 20 million.
    Dr. Besser, in 2003, now refers to tens of millions of unnecessary
    antibiotics. The number of unnecessary
    medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5 million. The number of people exposed to unnecessary
    hospitalization annually is 8.9 million.

  • John

    As of 1988 when the National Vaccine Act of 1986 went into force as a law, you can no longer sue a doctor or drug company for vaccine damage! Even if you can prove it, the best you can do is spend many 10’s of thousands of dollars in National Vaccine Court to prove your case and collect some money the taxpayers pay for. That court is not a real court, but has a judge that is a “Special Master.” The drug companies told Congress unless they created this law, they would stop making vaccines because they were losing way to many court cases proving vaccine damage!

  • AutismDad

    I knew Walgreens and Walmart. What’s it called the MCJAB?

  • guest

    That’s your bug up your behind and no one else’s. I suggest you get a pair of surgical forcipes to extract it. Maybe by the time you get it that itch will have gone away because no one cares but you and your fellow trolls.

  • Hannah Haha

    I don’t understand why people react like this. Please remember you represent a movement that needs to get taken seriously. There are thousands of us and I am embarrassed by how we come across on these comment boards. Not everyone who disagrees is a paid pharma troll. We need to inform people with accurate data and legit studies, not insult them. If we want medical freedom we need the masses. It will take all of us.

  • Chris Kendall

    if you knew what you were talking about… You are warning people about all these “chemicals”… Yet you fail to realize that one ingredient in there is sodium chloride.. Sounds so bad doesn’t it??
    Gues what… That is salt.. Good old table salt

  • Chris Kendall

    Amino acids are produces by your body and are the basis for life itself… Dextrose is a sugar… Formaldehyde is produced by your body.. There are no fetal cells… That is a bunch of hogwash. You get more aluminum in your diet from the aluminum foil you use to cover your food… Also… These do not screw with your nervous system like you claim.. I guess you have taken a neuroscience class… Or even a biology course in your life have you?

  • gin11153

    I am a nurse practitioner and after doing a google search, I only see evidence of not being able to sue the manufacturer unless you go through the Federal vaccine injury court first. Nothing online about not suing the doctor. http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/02/23/supreme-court-no-you-cant-sue-drugmakers-over-vaccine-injury-claims/#.VTw8QSFViko

  • gin11153

    Childrens’ vaccines have had the mercury removed since 2002.

  • Nathan Hyde

    Good luck at Vaccine Court….

  • Hannah Haha

    Reaction are not as rare as you may believe. Death might not be the most common reaction, but it has and will continue to happen. Since even the simplest study of how the vaccines react to each other, much less to anything else, has not been done we really can’t know what the outcome will be. Each body is different so we don’t know what reaction they will have until it’s too late. Each ingredient in a vaccine is known to cause reaction in animal and human studies, so obviously mixing them hardly makes it safe for certain people.

  • Hannah Haha

    Lord help us. I’m willing to educate you in a civil manner if you want to pose your questions to me.

  • Mary Sawant

    Mother never questioned doctor, nor asked for the available risk which doctor could have given her via an information sheet. While it is medical malpractice which lead to the baby’s death, legally the mother will have to take half the blame unless she can prove she was coheres, and the doctor threaten
    to take the baby away. She simply could have walked away and gone to another doctor, It’s logical that the child protection services had to be called in for the other children as the mother can be easily manipulated by any quack doctor,

  • Hannah Haha

    The biggest difference is that if McDonalds put toxins in their food and touted it as safe you could sue the hell out of them and would win.

  • Hannah Haha

    Really? Nature got it wrong? If you look around you will see that our arrogance is ruining a planet and the people inhabiting it.

  • Alisa Neathery: “A GP Gave My Baby 13 Vaccines At Once. He Died In My Arms 5 Days Later!”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a4AUPB5ZUs&feature=share

  • circulo lazo

    Thank you. Some people are saying the mercury in some vaccines is not a harmful form for humans. Any thoughts on this?

  • circulo lazo

    What kind of mercury is in some vaccines? Is ethyl mercury harmful to the human body? Somebody said this: Ethyl mercury is processed differently by the human body than mercury or methyl mercury ( the stuff in tuna).

  • Guest

    Ethyl mercury is what they put in vaccines primarily in the form of thimerosol. In regard to mercury, you have been listening to some very stupid people that are like many of the poison injectors here that have no clue what they are talking about when it comes to chemistry. I have a degree in both chemistry & biology and am constantly finding most people are making statements they know nothing about. Most of the misinformation on mercury comes from the dentist trying to defend the use of amalgam fillings! Both the ethyl and methyl mercury have great affects on the human body.

    Mercury has a great predilection for bonding to reduced sulfur atoms, especially those in thiol containing molecules such as glutathione, cysteine, homocysteine, and albumin. The affinity of mercury towards oxygen-or nitrogen-containing ligands is about 10 orders of magnitude lower. A study on oral exposure to methyl mercury in mice confirmed that the methyl mercury is absorbed, taken up by the liver, and then exported via the bile acids, likely bound to bio-organic sulfate. These researchers demonstrated a complete inability to dispose of methyl mercury in neonate animals, confirming that newborns are much more susceptible to mercury toxicity than adults. It was shown that this impaired disposal was due in part to insufficient glutathione in the liver.

    Do some reading on Autism and the relationship of glutathione, cysteine, homocysteine, and albumin in how these substances play a part in Autistic children.

    A
    study on infant monkeys confirmed that the ethyl mercury, the form in
    thimerosal, that is injected into the primate is more readily stored as
    inorganic mercury in the brain than is orally-delivered ethyl mercury, and that
    inorganic mercury tends to linger longer in the tissues.

    Exposure
    to thimerosal leads to abnormal glutamate transport in neurons in mouse
    hippocampi. Mercury also has an adverse effect on sulfate recycling in the
    glomeruli, leading to a net loss of sulfate via the urine. A noticeable reduction in the production of
    dermatan sulfate is associated with mercury exposure, via an effect on the
    mesangial cells. Thus, mercury would be
    expected to either build up to toxic levels or further reduce sulfate
    bioavailability in the child with autism.

  • John

    @ circulo lazo: Ethyl mercury is what they put in vaccines primarily in the form of
    thimerosol. In regard to mercury, you have been listening to some very
    stupid people that are like many of the poison injectors here that have
    no clue what they are talking about when it comes to chemistry. I have a
    degree in both chemistry & biology and am constantly finding most
    people are making statements they know nothing about. Most of the
    misinformation on mercury comes from the dentist trying to defend the
    use of amalgam fillings! Both the ethyl and methyl mercury have great
    affects on the human body.

    Mercury has a great predilection for
    bonding to reduced sulfur atoms, especially those in thiol containing
    molecules such as glutathione, cysteine, homocysteine, and albumin. The
    affinity of mercury towards oxygen-or nitrogen-containing ligands is
    about 10 orders of magnitude lower. A study on oral exposure to methyl
    mercury in mice confirmed that the methyl mercury is absorbed, taken up
    by the liver, and then exported via the bile acids, likely bound to
    bio-organic sulfate. These researchers demonstrated a complete
    inability to dispose of methyl mercury in neonate animals, confirming
    that newborns are much more susceptible to mercury toxicity than adults.
    It was shown that this impaired disposal was due in part to
    insufficient glutathione in the liver.

    Do some reading on Autism
    and the relationship of glutathione, cysteine, homocysteine, and albumin
    in how these substances play a part in Autistic children.

    A
    study on infant monkeys confirmed that the ethyl mercury, the form in
    thimerosal, that is injected into the primate is more readily stored as
    inorganic mercury in the brain than is orally-delivered ethyl mercury,
    and that inorganic mercury tends to linger longer in the tissues.

    Exposure
    to thimerosal leads to abnormal glutamate transport in neurons in mouse
    hippocampi. Mercury also has an adverse effect on sulfate recycling in
    the glomeruli, leading to a net loss of sulfate via the urine.

    A
    noticeable reduction in the production of dermatan sulfate is
    associated with mercury exposure, via an effect on the mesangial cells.
    Thus, mercury would be expected to either build up to toxic levels or
    further reduce sulfate bioavailability in the child with autism.

  • John

    Lowell: And the doctors will tell you the vaccines had nothing to do with the baby’s death I’m sure.

  • John

    On Nov. 14, 1986, President Ronald
    Reagan signed the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 into
    law, instituting first-time vaccine safety reforms in the U.S.
    vaccination system and creating the first no-fault federal vaccine
    injury compensation program alternative to a lawsuit against vaccine
    manufacturers and pediatricians.

    Twenty-two years later, on Nov. 18, 2008, I made a statement to the
    Advisory Commission on Childhood Vaccines (ACCV) and questioned whether
    the compensation program is fatally flawed and so broken that it should
    be repealed. Many parents are wondering whether it would be better to
    return to civil court without restrictions to sue vaccine manufacturers
    and doctors for injuries and deaths their children suffered after
    receiving federally recommended vaccines.

    During its two-decade history, two out of three individuals applying for
    federal vaccine injury compensation have been turned away empty-handed
    even though to date $1.8 billion has been awarded to more than 2,200
    plaintiff’s out of some 12,000 who have applied.

    Today, nearly 5,000 vaccine injury claims are sitting in limbo because
    they represent children who suffered brain and immune system dysfunction
    after vaccination but have been diagnosed with regressive autism, which
    is not recognized by the program as a compensable event. There is $2.7
    billion sitting in the Trust Fund, which could have been awarded to
    vaccine victims.

  • nworder

    And even the horrendous damage you mention will be massively unreported by the agencies of “lies, damned lies and statistics”
    Plus the vaccine damage will be on a sliding scale – some sub clinical – some revealing damage later in life where there will be zero chance of a claim.
    How does someone know how intelligent or healthy their children might have been if they had never received a vaccine.

  • nworder

    No – mercury can be included in the “ingredients” and then it is not necessary to declare – but aluminium and a host of poisons are always there.

  • nworder

    You pick the one harmless ingredient out of 100 poisons –
    your living a lie – it will get to your soul.

  • nworder

    There are fetal cell extractions . Formaldehyde is a deadly toxin. The amount produced by your metabolism is taken care of but the injection into a baby’s blood is bypassing the normal metabolism and will damage.
    The digestion is trained not to absorb aluminium but injecting 60 doses into an infant is child abuse.

    You are a lying troll who picks up cash to support child abuse – you think you can separate your sickening job from the rest of your life – but it will destroy your soul eventually – living this lie for evil pharma executives bonuses.

  • Lindaxox

    He sure was a smart guy, I watched what is on the net. I wish he had written a book. He knew what he was talking about but was completely rejected. Are you the one putting his work back on the internet?

  • nworder

    Would increasing sulfur intake have any effect on mercury toxicity .

  • gin11153

    Sorry but as a nurse practitioner, I can say that you are incorrect. The last vaccine with thimerisol was produced in 2001. Since then, vaccines for kids have no thimerisol or a very tiny trace in a few.
    http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228

  • gin11153

    there are no fetal cell extractions in a vaccine-that is propaganda started by the anti vaccine group

  • nworder

    You lie again :-

    The History of Vaccines :-
    ” Current Vaccines Developed Using Human Cell Strains :-

    Two main human cell strains have been used to develop currently available vaccines, in each case with the original fetal cells in question obtained in the 1960s. The WI-38 cell strain was developed in 1961 in the United States, and the MRC-5 cell strain (also started with fetal lung cells) was developed in 1965 in the United Kingdom. No new or additional fetal cells are required in order to sustain the two cell strains.

    The vaccines below were developed using either the WI-38 or the MRC-5 cell strains.
    Hepatitis A vaccines [VAQTA/Merck, Havrix/GlaxoSmithKline, and part of Twinrix/GlaxoSmithKline]
    Rubella vaccine [MERUVAX II/Merck, part of MMR II/Merck, and ProQuad/Merck]
    Varicella (chickenpox) vaccine [Varivax/Merck, and part of ProQuad/Merck]
    Zoster (shingles) vaccine [Zostavax/Merck]
    Adenovirus Type 4 and Type 7 oral vaccine [Barr Labs]
    Rabies vaccine [IMOVAX/Sanofi Pasteur] *

  • nworder

    If you really are a nurse practionier you would not get near my family :-

    Health Impact News Editor Comments

    “In a press release issued recently, one that almost no mainstream media sources have bothered to report, it was announced that Dr. Brian Hooker had finally received documents from the CDC through a Freedom of Information Act that revealed the CDC had access to data linking Thimerosal in vaccines to autism, non-organic sleep disorders, and speech disorders.

    Two members of Congress helped Dr. Hooker draft his letter to the CDC, after having spent nearly 10 years submitting over 100 Freedom of Information Acts to no avail.

    “This information is very damaging to the CDC, which has stated for years that there are no studies linking the mercury of Thimerosal in vaccines to autism. You can watch for yourself in the video below the most recent testimony given by the CDC in the November 2012 Congressional Hearing on Autism, where they claim there are no studies linking Thimerosal to autism. Thimerosal is still used today in the flu shot that is administered to pregnant women and INFANTS.”

  • Glenn Festog

    Why do you bother to sign back on anonomously? Can’t snark under your own name? And, yes, if we manage to kill off the insects that pollinate our FOOD CROPS a lot of people will starve. But wait! That’s the secret behind Obama’s immigration policy; we’ll use illegals to pollinate the plants, its so much better than bees.

  • guest

    Why do you bother to sign back on anonomously?
    Why do you care?
    I’m sure you have some reason to connect politics to this comment but I really don’t care.

    You ever been stalked online? One of the things a website informs people when they sign up and give their email address is that it won’t be revealed. Some groups that have a lot of money to hire very savvy tech people can get access to those emails which happened in my case. How did I know I was being stalked, even though I had the private setting on disqus? For about 5 weeks every comment I made was responded to by the same two people. That’s didn’t bother me until I began getting emails from them almost daily and not very pleasant one. Some of the emails were just empty as a way of letting me know-they were still there. Actually I think it was the same person but with two accounts. Disqus only solution was to change my account information, keep my posting private and identify myself as guest. Why me? That’s a question I asked but than again, why not! People who engage in that sort of behavior are operating with a screw lose and don’t need a reason. Personally, I think it was done just for fun. Because that person could. So I will always identify myself as guest. If that bothers you simply don’t respond to any of my comments.

  • circulo lazo

    Thank you. That’s great info.

  • Glenn Festog

    If you didn’t care you wouldn’t have answered, troll. Peace, out.

  • GoFundMe
  • GoFundMe

    Richie Allen???
    This interview conducted over Skype was completely faked.
    Try coming up with reliable sources.

  • Cricket

    Seems the vaccine industry knew anyone foolish enough to eat McNuggets could easily be sold on a McJab side of “varicella”. Both vaccines and McDonald’s are frightening!

  • Cricket

    Well said! Just explained this to a family member yesterday and added how doctors are being monitored- if they don’t reach the vaccine quota they are forced to fire their patients who refuse vaccines.

  • AutismDad

    Good one

  • circulo lazo

    Hi John, Is there another means of communicating with you, Facebook or email? Can you email me at [email protected]? I know someone who wants to ask some science questions regarding what you wrote on aluminum. Also, she wrote this and wants your opinion: Re: Tetanus and Rust: While I agree completely that a rusty nail in and of itself does not present an unusual risk for Tetanus, I would like to correct the misconception that Tetanus cannot exist on it for the fact that rust indicates the presence of oxygen. The misconception seems to be double: (a) That tetanus spores do not exist where there is oxygen — this is incorrect — there is oxygen everywhere. There are tetanus spores everywhere (though they seem to be more concentrated in the dung of ruminant animals). The spores have no trouble existing in any environment (and I have not researched the influence of temperature on tetanus spores). The only thing they need an anoxic environment for is the change that has to occur in order for them to produce the tetanus toxin. They change shape and produce the tetanus toxin in an anoxic environment only. (b) Rust does not indicate the presence of oxygen — it is a compound called iron oxide (FeO or Fe203), which does not break down automatically into iron and oxygen (O2). It does not and cannot release any oxygen into a wound.

  • John

    The toxicity of mercury is due to the liver converting the mercuric vapor from amalgams, for example, into mercuric ions that go to the kidney & brain. Mercury ions disturb the tubulin matrix that surround the neurodendrites in the brain by creating an electrical charge confusion causing the tubulin to denude so you end up with denuded neurodendrites that are like exposed wire with no sheathing on it as in electrical wiring. Videos of this has been taken showing the denuding of these neurodendrites by the University of Calgary School of Medicine to show how mercury creates the denuded fibrils that are a marker for Alzheimer’s disease.

    The kidneys are responsible for processing sulfur and mercury interrupts this process. So sulfur can become a toxic substance because the body cannot process it and make cholesterol sulfate. The mercury is not affected by the sulfur, but the other way around.

  • gin11153

    Yes I know the catch up schedule because I am a nurse practitioner, and no, more than one dose of the same vaccine is never given on the same day. Read the comments here by other nurses. The doses are given 30 days apart as the child catches up.

  • John

    There is something going on with the 6 media giants supplying news information to America. It is called “ASTRO TURF” that is basically causing stories that are contrary to corporate interests to be squashed. We are living in a very corrupt world. The ASTRO TURF people are here on this site creating posts that are designed to confuse, create misinformation, and support BIG Pharma! They are being paid to do so.

    Look for those that are criticizing the messenger, have no real scientific facts to back up their claims, only drug company financed studies, etc. Here is a very brave woman that reported the facts in the California case. Read what she reported in Feb of 2013! Have you seen this kind of reporting in the media lately?

    Study: Whooping Cough Epidemics Related to Failed Vaccine, Not Unvaccatined. KSBW in Salinas California reported in March 2015 that a whooping cough outbreak had occurred among fully vaccinated students.

    Health Impact News Editor Comments:

    News continues to spread regarding the fact that the current pertussis vaccine is ineffective. Health Impact News first reported on this in 2013 after several studies, including studies the FDA and CDC participated in, confirmed that the vaccine was no longer effective.

    Earlier this year a school in Salinas California reported a whooping cough outbreak among students who were fully vaccinated. And yet, the U.S. mainstream media keeps blaming unvaccinated children for these whooping cough epidemics, and keeps on encouraging everyone to get the failed vaccine.

    ABC in Australia, however, is publishing the truth after a new study was published this month where researchers claimed the failed pertussis vaccine is to blame for recent whooping cough outbreaks, and not unvaccinated children.

    Whooping cough increase related to current vaccine by Dani Cooper — ABC – Australia

    Excerpts: The findings highlight the need to do similar research in Australia where whooping cough cases have spiralled upward in the past decade, co-author Associate Professor Manoj Gambhir, from the University of Monash, says.

    In 2012 the US saw the highest number of pertussis (whooping cough) cases since 1955. At the same time there has been a shift in the age group reporting the largest number of cases from adolescents to 7 to 11 year olds.

    In the paper, published today in PLOS Computational Biology, Gambhir and colleagues use mathematical modelling of 60 years of pertussis disease data to determine what best explains this increase.

    Gambhir says in 1991 researchers developed a new vaccine to address public concerns that the whooping cough vaccine caused a reaction in some children.

    This vaccine, known as acellular pertussis vaccine, used particular components of the bacteria that were believed to generate the immune response, but was essentially artificially created.

    Gambhir says the impact of the change in vaccine has taken time to show in the data.

    “Now in the past decade we have seen a rise from that low to about 10-20 cases per 100,000,” says Gambhir.

    “It’s the kind of numbers we haven’t seen since the mid-1950s so we are right back to the period before vaccines were introduced.”

    Researchers find first US evidence of vaccine-resistant pertussis

    Feb 7, 2013 (CIDRAP News) – Researchers in other countries have found evidence that circulating strains of Bordetella pertussis have adapted to the acellular vaccine, and researchers today reported similar findings for the first time in US kids, based on genetic analysis of isolates from hospitalized children.

    Infectious disease experts have been eyeing waning immunity from acellular pertussis vaccines as a contributor to increasing numbers of cases of pertussis (whooping cough) in several countries, and evidence is mounting that another factor fueling the outbreaks could be that the bacteria are adapting to the vaccine.

    The US researchers, including a scientist from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), described their findings in a letter in the New England Journal of Medicine.

    So far, lab studies in Japan, France, and Finland have identified variants of B pertussis that are negative for pertactin, a virulence factor and an outer membrane protein that promotes adhesion to tracheal epithelial cells. Pertactin purified from B pertussis is a key component of the acellular pertussis vaccine. Many countries switched from the whole-cell pertussis vaccine to the acellular version in the late 1990s because of a fairly high rate of minor side effects in the whole-cell vaccine. However, in the face of rising pertussis levels, surveillance studies in the United States and other countries are finding a gap in protection in children who received doses of acellular vaccine. The CDC has said that pertussis cases are at their highest point since 1955.

    In the US study, researchers looked at pertactin genes from 12 isolates of B pertussis from children hospitalized in Philadelphia in 2011 and 2012. Most of the patients were younger than 2 years old, but the group also included a 9-year-old and 14-year-old.

    They analyzed the pertactin genes from the specimens and amplified and sequenced the coding region. They determined the pulsed-field gel electrophoresis (PFGE) patterns and detected pertactin using Western blotting with antiserum and a strain from the World Health Organization (WHO) as the pertactin-positive reference.

    Eleven of the 12 pertussis strains they tested were negative for pertactin. The pertactin allele in all isolates was pm2, but the mutations were different than pertactin-negative pm2 isolates from France, according to the report. (Variants in Japan and Finland had insertion sequences in the pm1 allele.)

    The researchers wrote that their finding appears to be the first reported pertactin-negative variant of B pertussis in the United States and that more studies should be done on isolates from different parts of the country to see if the finding is an isolated local event or a more widespread shift.

    “An understanding of the epidemiology and virulence of
    pertactin-negative variants is crucial to developing the next generation of pertussis vaccines,” the group wrote.

    Recent studies suggest the pertactin-negative mutants are transmissible in humans. Also, a study by French researchers that appeared Jan 31 in Emerging Infectious Diseases comparing clinical symptoms in infants younger than 6 months old found little difference between the pertactin-negative and pertactin-positive isolates. Their analysis included samples from 60 babies; 20 were pertactin-negative and 40 were pertactin-positive.

    They wrote that the findings suggest the negative isolates were as virulent as the positive ones and that more studies are needed to track the virulence of B pertussis species, which could help guide strategies for addressing adaptation to the acellular vaccine.

    Several efforts in the United States are under way to explore the spike in pertussis cases, assess the burden of the disease, and examine possible problems with the vaccine, according to expert presentations on Feb 5 before the National Vaccine Advisory Committee, the group that advises the US Department of Health and Human Services.

    Queenan AM, Cassiday PK, Evangelista A. Pertactin-negative variants of Bordetella pertussis in the United States. (Letter) N Engl J Med 2013 Feb 7;368(6):583-4

  • John

    The reason the CDC can say there are no studies linking Thimerosol to vaccines is that there have been no studies done! Congressman Dan Burton (R-Indiana) started chairing annual Congressional hearings in 1999 after seeing his own grandchild become autistic within a few days of receiving vaccines.

    In the hearing, he learned that the FDA was relying on a test done in 1929 on thimerosal to claim its safety for vaccines and that the tests were done on people that had meningitis, and they all died. Thimerosal contains 49.6 percent mercury by weight and is metabolized or degraded into ethyl mercury and thiosalicylate. Mercury, or more precisely, ethyl mercury, is the principle agent that kills contaminants.

    You also need to be aware that PEANUT OIL is added to all vaccines and you will not find that ingredient listed on any vaccine ingredient list! It has been claimed as a TRADE SECRET and does not have to be listed! How many other ingredients are on this so called Trade Secret list? It took a lot of work to get that information about peanut oil being in vaccines. Is it any wonder we now have over 2% of all children in the u.s. with peanut allergies? These were incredibly rare before the 1960’s when they started adding it to all vaccines!

  • John

    Chris Kendall, you are incredibly ignorant about how your body works! Are you aware that all the studies done on aluminum effects on the body have been on ingesting aluminum in drinking water! No study has been done on injecting it into the bloodstream or getting aluminum seeping into the bloodstream from connective tissue poison injections! Aluminum was not found in living organisms before the 1900’s because it is embedded in Bauxite and very difficult to remove chemically. Not until electricity was invented did removing aluminum from Bauxite become economically feasible to use.

    In regard to your amino acid statement, you sound like you think amino acids were formed in a primordial soup and a cell was formed with membrane and reproductive capability all from random chance! LOL. Are you aware that the most primitive substances were polysaccharides?

    The human body cannot live without ESSENTIAL amino acids, so did all of those come together at the same time to allow the human and animals to exist? LOL.

    You obviously don’t understand how the smallest of Aluminum particles in the blood cause the Zeta potential to change to a positive charge causing coagulation of red blood cells! Do you know what happens then? Do you even understand how aluminium hydroxide they put in many vaccines stimulate the immune system by inducing the release of uric acid, an immunological danger signal. This strongly attracts certain types of monocytes which differentiate into dendritic cells. The dendritic cells pick up the antigen, carry it to lymph nodes, and stimulate T cells and B cells.?

    Why are you here? To generate stupid remarks to confuse and deceive people with your comments like some ASTRO TURF kind of guy that is paid by Big Pharma to come here and spew your vomit?

  • John

    You must be either willingly ignorant (dumb on purpose) or a BAD TROLL because you said there are “no fetal cells….” Does that mean you are stupid or a troll? Please choose one and promise us all here you won’t breed!

    Mothers are often surprised to learn that they carry some
    of their children’s cells, years or even decades after the end of a pregnancy.

    Doctors have known for years that mothers and babies exchange blood during pregnancy and childbirth, says V.K. Gadi, associate professor at the University of Washington and an associate member at Seattle’s Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. Studies now show that fetal cells remain behind, long after pregnancy, in 40% to 70% of women studied. And moms aren’t the only ones collecting souvenirs. Kids may also carry cells from their mothers, as well as their twin siblings.

    “You live on in them, and they live on in you,” says Louise McCullough, director of stroke research at the University of Connecticut Health Center.

    So which is it? Stupid or a Troll? Choose wisely here because you have been EXPOSED!

  • John

    @ gin11153: Your expertise is what? Do you think there are no fetal tissue in vaccines? Is that what you are saying here? What so called “anti-vaccine” group are you talking about that started this claimed to be rumor?

    Let’s start your education here to help you begin to see some of what TRUTH is all about instead of your lame indoctrination by drug companies and medical terrorists spreading lies and misinformation like you are doing.

    Here are 5 Videos of a MEDICAL DOCTOR that has done
    extensive research and actually read over 6,000 medical studies and papers recommended by the CDC for researching vaccines and the details everyone in America needs to be able to evaluate whether to vaccinate or not.

    YouTUBE: watch?v=mpx8-Rmf8bc
    Youtube: watch?v=djxoqJKD5pQ
    Youtube: watch?v=1oYAVLDyR6Y
    Youtube: watch?v=msGJwaUVdno
    Youtube: watch?v=rwlWqvxlEgk

    After you watch these videos, I expect you will disagree with what is presented, but in order for us to evaluate your probity, I suggest you give us specific arguments to what she is presenting. If you cannot do that and just have some stupid remarks about the messenger and no scientific basis for refuting her conclusions, then go away and do not breed!

  • The doctors and coroners are totally clueless, John. Additionally, to even suggest it was vaccines, is in their world, politically incorrect, and a risk to their careers. They have no ability to see and nor the tools, to physiologically determine what took place with these children. That ability has existed, but they that should have taken notice, simply refused to acknowledge that information regarding vaccines, and as real. Their credibility, their vaccine vested interests, and their careers depended on it and that happening.

    Here is what takes place.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbo5vf_health-canada-corruption-dr-andrew_news

  • Really? And your proof of, and your evidence for that, is what? Your so expert, opinion?

  • Wow, and without doing any independent and unbiased research, you just simply re-parroted the same old well known and false vaccine propaganda that you were fed.

  • John

    @ Chris Kendall: There you go again, spewing things you know nothing about! Do you think the sodium chloride is that same garbage created by the Morton Salt company where they heat it to over 1,100 degrees, remove all the trace minerals and add GMO dextrose and calcium silicate to it. You mean that table salt?

    Morton salt is not found in nature, but is created and is not pure! In fact it rotates polarized light in the opposite direction as the sodium salt made in nature! Do you know why? LOL.

  • John

    @ GoFundMe: So what drug company or poison injector group is FUNDING YOU? To make statements like that are nothing more than inflammatory remarks designed to instigate stupid diatribes instead of backing up your uneducated, foolish poison injector remarks that are generally directed toward the messenger and nothing about the technology!

    You definitely fit the bill for being part of the ASTRO TURF community being paid to be here!

    Here’s a study you can read as well as everyone else here to give us your lame comments so we can scrutinize your intelligence as well as your intentions:

    A peer reviewed study by the University of Tennessee of 239
    premature infants measured injuires from both single and multiple
    vaccines! They looked at two things: C-reactive protein and evaluation of cardopulmonary function.

    RESULTS: Among preemies getting a single vaccine shot: 70% had high CRP. Preemies who got multiple vaccines: 85% had high CRP! 16% had cardiopulmonary events within 48 hours including apnea & bradycardia. These effects are potentially fatal, of course.

    17% had brain hemorrhages with single vaccine and 24% in the
    multiple vaccines!

    As expected the most dangerous vaccine was DPT. Multiple vaccines included Hepatitis B, polio, DPT, H. influenza, and Prevnar.

    Now think of those doctors and pediatricians giving those babies multiple vaccines in a few weeks. How much better results can we expect!

    An infant is born with virtually no immunity and has to develop this immunity. Vaccinations are not Immunization! It takes 2 years for the inner lumen of the intestine to fully close and giving POISON INJECTIONS like feeding them solid food during this time slows this process down greatly. This is why many children develop asthma & allergies as a result. Putting POISON INJECTIONS into the blood stream of that infant should be outlawed not promoted!

  • John

    Here’s a good book for you to read so you can get a history of smallpox and see how the vaccine did nothing to prevent smallpox. In fact, there are many countries that had no vaccine and it is gone. Sanitation was the big factor, just like with Typhoid & Tetanus. Many of the Amish that have never been vaccinated have antibodies to diphtheria and tetanus! Also, you need to be aware that children born with a genetic disorder called Gamma-Globulin-anemia cannot make antibodies, but they get over the infectious diseases just as fast as those that have been vaccinated and the unvaccinated!

  • The only answer to this vaccine pushing and mandatory vaccines issue, is for the person and any person advocating these vaccines, that they and THEIR family take what they are pushing. They can take what they are pushing, publically on record, and on video tape. The first thing these reluctant fools will do of course, is to claim that it and that would violate HIPPA laws. Not, if they legally in writing exempt themselves from it, and thus legally they make their vaccine record public, through doing what I am outlining here. Adults can start right off with the Gardasil 9 with now double the aluminum adjuvant in it. As if none of these vaccine pushers have realized that the proof of what they calim to is also found in their own taking of the vaccines. Taking of the entire current CDC schedule, just as the infants to now even the old grandma’s and grandpa’s are CDC recommended to do. Lets start, with Paul Offit and all the top dogs at Merck, the CDC, and the FDA? Lets add Dorit (Dorito) Reiss and any vaccine trolling shill that is reply posting on articles which are out there. As a fact if we could demanded and that they do this; the entire vaccine pushing issue, would go silent, over night.

  • John

    So called Dr. Jenner got his medical degree from the University of Scotland through the mail. He paid 15 English pounds for it. When you go to the museum that was created for him, ask them to see his medical license. They won’t show you! He did two experiments with cowpox vaccine and both boys died in their very early 20’s, one was his son.

    Here’s a book for you to read: Vaccination is not immunization by Tim O’Shea. It’s been peer reviewed! Get educated!

  • John

    Here are 3 studies you may be interested in:

    1. A study published in 2011 has confirmed a positive correlation between the proportion of children who received vaccinations in each state over the interval from 2001 to 2007 and the incidence of autism or speech and language impairment. For each 1% increase in vaccination rate, 680 additional children were diagnosed with autism or speech delay.

    DeLong, G. A positive association found between autism prevalence and childhood vaccination uptake across the U.S. population. J. Toxicol. Env. Health A 2011, 74, 903–916.

    2. A meta-study involving oxidative-stress related biomarkers present in association with autism identified a consistent deficiency in reduced glutathione, an important sulfur-based antioxidant that plays a role in detoxifying aluminum.

    Frustaci, A.; Neri, M.; Cesario, A.; Adams, J.B.; Domenici, E.; Dalla-Bernardina, B.; Bonassi, S.

    Oxidative stress-related biomarkers in autism: Systematic review and meta-analyses. Free Radic.Biol. Med. 2012, 52, 2128–2141.

    3. The over-zealous application of sunscreen is strongly implicated in autism, not only because sunscreen interferes with the production of vitamin D3 and cholesterol sulfate but also because it often contains aluminum, particularly the high Sun Protection Factor (SPF) sunblock products. Aluminum, due in part to its +3 ionic charge, is highly toxic to biological systems as will be described more fully in Section 2.1. Indeed, there are no known life forms that utilize Aluminum in any biological systems. The poorly developed barrier function of the autistic child’s epidermis would likely lead to an increased penetration of aluminum through the skin. Furthermore, their serum sulfate deficiency leads to an impaired ability to dispose of aluminum. Aluminum would therefore be expected to accumulate over time, and, due to increased permeability of the blood brain barrier associated with autism would almost certainly interfere with neuron function.

    Troncoso,J.C.; March, J.L.; Häner, M.; Aebi, U. Effect of aluminum and other multivalent cations on neurofilaments in vitro: An electron microscopic study. J. Struct. Biol. Mar. 1990, 103, 2–12.

    Joshi, J.G. Neurochemical hypothesis: participation by aluminum in producing critical mass of colocalized errors in brain leads to neurological disease. Comp. Biochem. Physiol. C 1991, 100, 103–105.

    Theoharides, T.C.; Zhang, B. Hypothesis: Neuro-inflammation, blood-brain barrier, seizures and autism. J. Neuroinflamm. 2011, 8, 168.

  • “One-size fits all”? Vaccine
    Vaccine 2012 Mar 23;30(12):2040. Epub 2011 Nov 23.
    Lucija Tomljenovic, Christopher A Shaw

    http://www.pubfacts.com/detail/22119595/One-size-fits-all

  • What good book?

  • I too was a court reporter for 25 years, married to a fellow I got a job as a hospital risk manager. Putting together what he was doing with what was happening in court led me to prefer to die of an ailment rather than its cure.

  • That’s not true. They say that, but the boxes list that, and other worse ingredients. You are why I would rather die of an ailment than its cure.

  • John

    “Vaccination is not immunization” by Tim O’Shea.

  • John

    “Should Premature Babies Be Included In The One-Size-Fits-All Vaccination Policy?”

    Well, let’s look at an independent peer reviewed study done by a university on this very subject to see what happened when 239 premature babies were subjected to vaccines.

    A peer reviewed study by the University of Tennessee of 239 premature infants measured injuires from both single and multiple vaccines! They looked at two things: C-reactive protein and evaluation of cardopulmonary function.

    RESULTS: Among preemies getting a single vaccine shot: 70% had high CRP. Preemies who got multiple vaccines: 85% had high CRP! 16% had cardiopulmonary events within 48 hours including apnea & bradycardia. These effects are potentially fatal, of course.

    17% had brain hemorrhages with single vaccine and 24% in the multiple vaccines!

    As expected the most dangerous vaccine was DPT. Multiple vaccines included Hepatitis B, polio, DPT, H. influenza, and Prevnar.

    Now think of those doctors and pediatricians giving those babies multiple vaccines in a few weeks. How much better results can we expect!

    An infant is born with virtually no immunity and has to develop this immunity. Vaccinations are not Immunization! It takes 2 years for the inner lumen of the intestine to fully close and giving POISON INJECTIONS like feeding them solid food during this time slows this process down greatly. This is why many children develop asthma & allergies as a result. Putting POISON INJECTIONS into the blood stream of that infant should be outlawed not promoted!

  • John

    Here’s an “O” and “10” day wish for you!

  • AutismDad

    thanks John. Hopefully the pro-vacs read them and learn something.

  • AutismDad

    Its OFFICIAL WORD SYNDROME

  • AutismDad

    The product killed. FDA, CDC, Vaccine makers killed this child.

  • Free People

    Good post Lowell – thanks!

  • Free People

    Caused by the “several thousands” dollar$$$ the In$urance companie$$ pay the quacktors/quacktricians at the end of the year for 100% vaccination compliance! BLOOD MONEY! They love it.

  • AutismDad

    WOW professor DUH they don’t screw with the nervous system? What prestigious University did you attend?

  • AutismDad
  • AutismDad
  • Jack Sprat

    I could only find one reference to a Bentley Neathery, note the spelling difference. It is in a obit for who could be his great grandfather in Oregon. Now if it is the same “child”, the deceased, great grandpa Howard Michael passed Sept 6, 2014; Bentley is named and still alive.
    The grand-daughter is listed of Alisa. But both last names are spelled differently.
    Now the Dr that allegedly administered the vaccines, is part of a medical group in Texas, where Alisa resides and works.
    I cannot however find an obituary for the child. I found the Alisa’s middle school, high school, employer, and Alisa’s mother.
    There is no record of a deceased child with the name Bently (or Bentley) Stratton or Neathery or other variations. Now according to the crowdsource fund page, he died 7 days shy of his 6th month birthday. Birth in October 2011. No birth announcement either.

    This smells of crowdsource scam.

  • Free People

    You’re definitely a retarded troll or you have to go back to that $hiliversity you attended and ask for a refund. DUMB!

  • Jack Sprat

    Ah; there is a sound visceral thrashing! We adore the use of “retarded” here.
    Free People I am not big on personal swipes however I will make an exception for you. You are a lunatic that brings nothing of substance to the conversation. I am not entirely certain what your specific problem is, but it must be horrendous to pronounce.

  • Jack Sprat

    I would certainly have expected to see the patient’s name on the “vaccination record”

  • John

    We will see how honest these people are. If they reject the truth, then it will be clear what they are. When a man is honest and he hears the truth, he embraces the truth or he ceases to be honest.

  • Jack Sprat

    Lowell, I’m so glad that you have conducted independent research. Could you please direct me to your published results?

  • Free People

    Another Shilliversity freak. VaxINC desperate much they send the entire brigade.

  • Free People

    Hey Cricket! Good to see you – been a long time.

    Good catch, that was funny.

  • Free People

    Hahah! “Allopathetic Medicine” – genius! I’m using it if you don’t mind. Clever and so true.

  • Free People

    “while you just about speak one” Hahah! Good one and the truth!

  • sabelmouse

    and the shills, they’re multiplyin’!

  • Proponent

    Formaldehyde?

    Ok.. sure..

    Formaldehyde from an injected vaccine would immediately start to be taken up by surrounding cells. Some of it would reach the bloodstream, but it is quickly broken down. The amount in a vaccine would be metabolised in ~10 minutes. Our bodies and cells are very familiar with formaldehyde. Every cell in the human body produces formaldehyde and the average adult produces between 50 and 55 g, or 50-55 000000 micrograms every day.

    Formaldehyde is already present in our blood and cells and the amount from a vaccine is so miniscule that the blood does not even register a difference. There is 120 times more formaldehyde in a pear than in a vaccine. But small amounts of ingested formaldehyde are not harmful either because the gut breaks it down. The most harmful route for formaldehyde is inhalation, and it can be toxic where there is chronic, long term exposure eg. factory workers breathing in daily fumes.

    Aluminium?

    Can do that one, too..

    The aluminium in vaccines is not a heavy metal. It is not even in metallic form as portrayed by vaccine fearmongerers. It is in the form of a salt, usually aluminium hydroxide. The aluminium in aluminium hydroxide is not readily bioavailable and retention is extremely low from both ingestion and injection.

    Aluminium salts that you ingest (eg. antacids, buffered aspirin, some
    processed foods) are mostly excreted before they get to enter the
    bloodstream. In healthy subjects, less than 0.3% of aluminium that you eat is absorbed via the GI tract and the kidneys effectively eliminate aluminium from the body. Intravenous infusion of products containing aluminium (ie injection directly into the bloodstream via a drip connected to a vein, as with intravenous nutrition pouches for patients in a hospital) or renal dysfunction are the only real scenarios where aluminium has the potential to accumulate.

    Once aluminium is in the bloodstream, it is processed similarly
    regardless of the source. It just depends on the amount received and if
    the kidneys can keep up. Continuous infusion, we are talking litres
    here, of a nutrition product delivered directly into the bloodstream, is
    much more of a deal than a miniscule amount of aluminium hydroxide in a 0.5 ml vaccine injected into muscle. Most of the injected aluminium
    from vaccines will eventually enter the bloodstream, but it’s not taken
    up readily by the cells, it is not bioavailable.

    Only a very tiny percentage of it will be “dissolved” in the blood – it’s in the form of precipitate bound to carrier proteins. Approximately 89 percent of this aluminium is processed by binding to a protein called transferrin, and the rest is bound to citrate. The majority of the bound aluminium will be processed and eliminated through the kidneys, a small amount through bile and faeces, and a tiny amount is retained in tissues of the body.

    About 50% of the aluminium in the bloodstream is eliminated in less than 24 hours, more than 75% is eliminated within two weeks and even more over time. A diminishingly small amount may be retained. But we’re talking about a fraction of two hundredths of bugger all. The ability of the body to rapidly eliminate aluminium hydroxide accounts for its excellent record of safety as a vaccine adjuvant.

    Feel free to prove the above, either.. inaccurate or whichever/whatever, nworder.

    Shall wait.. right.. here..

  • Proponent

    One, two, three.. five YouTube videos.

    Well.. I guess that settles the ‘science’ side of things.

    Thanks! John!

  • Proponent

    Dud.. am disappoint.

    A -gain.

  • Proponent

    Hey nworder.. thanks for leading me to the History of Vaccines website.

    Tons.. tons.. of great articles and information.

    In fact.. came across the following while browsing the site:

    “Vaccines have been a part of the human fight against disease for more
    than 200 years. The worldwide vaccination campaign eradicated smallpox and immunization has eliminated polio in all but a handful of countries. Childhood vaccination has substantially reduced the morbidity and mortality from infectious diseases in much of the developed world, and yearly influenza vaccination is a commonly accepted practice worldwide to reduce the impact of the seasonal influenza infection.”

    And.. I agree. Don’t you?

    I mean.. you used them to back up your claims in your post.. so..

    Yeah.. most definitely a great website and resource.

    Thanks again, nworder!

  • Proponent

    and the shrills, they’re shrillin’!

  • Proponent

    Ehh.. eleven (11).. or.. thirteen (13).

    No biggie, right?

  • Xander Naudé

    stupid anti-vaxxers are gonna have a field day with this.

  • Free People

    “I’m a nurse practitioner”..hahah! “Read the comments here by ‘other’ nurses”..hahaha! you mean other pHARMa or gubmint troll$$$ like you. Right. You all have descended on this article like flie$$$ just to confuse people reading the article. It’s your diabolical job.

  • Free People

    Shilliversity of Big pHARMa/Government LIES.

  • Free People

    Excellent post!

    Haha! You got their goat and now Shill Proponent has posted a CROCK of VAXINC BS in reply below. It’s ‘waiting’ for some pennies to be thrown his/her/its way.

  • John

    So now you are attacking the media! LOL. Are you a TROLL? Who’s paying for your comments? What drug company? Are you part of the ASTRO TURF crowd going on sites like this making comments?

    Let’s see your SCIENCE? I don’t see any comments about the contents of those videos! Specifically, any comments refuting any of the information! If you can’t refute it, then why comment on them? Are you willing ignorant (dumb on purpose)?

  • James M. Barber

    Obviously not, because you have no understanding of what that is in relation to. Any idiot can report to VAERS, there is even a report of someone turning into the incredible hulk after receiving a vaccine. NVIC is a no fault law system to help people in case of serious reaction. But because its meant to be a collection point its used as a dumping grounds anytime the timing of a disease coincides with the time of vaccination. This is why you don’t understand what the insert says. The insert in no way represents the actual data on what vaccines are known to cause as reactions. Pretending to be a doctor is a bad idea, and this illustrates it perfectly. You have no idea what VAERS is, and if you did you wouldn’t read the insert as if it were evidence of any sort.

  • James M. Barber

    What they wouldn’t know is that the nature of the reporting system makes the insert nearly useless as a source of information. VAERS is full of nonsense that is reported due to the timing. Only a quarter of VAERS reports are found to have a casual nature. You are a conspiracy theorist moron. You obviously don’t know anyone involved in the peer review process or you would know the things you just posted are nonsense from conspiracy theorist websites. You should seek professional help for your paranoid delusions.

  • James M. Barber
  • James M. Barber

    No, you don’t. You don’t understand what the stats say, you don’t understand how incidence reporting works. You’ve never even read a VAERS report. What the hell thinks you really know what the hell you are reading. You are reading a legal setup meant to be read by a healthcare professional. Drug inserts are meant to be gone over with a pharmacist at the very least. You are not a medical professional. You are a conspiracy theorist who has a google U degree and possibly a mental health issue.

  • nworder

    You are a psychopathic troll and lies spew from your mouth. You cant get a job so you decided to crawl at your pharma masters feet – thinking you will not be harmed living a life of lies.
    However trolls know too much and the pharma boys will decide one day that you are no longer useful and you will have to go.

  • James M. Barber

    When you’ve never studied science you wouldn’t know what a case control study was, or how to use a confounding variable in a data set. You would be of the opinion that cause and effect would be visible at all times. You’re an idiot. You want to play doctor but you have no idea how much work goes into the development of vaccinations. You think vaccination is a “government interest” whats the last government program that had 90+ percent support, and nearly 100 percent support of medical professionals. Do you not know a person who can read real scientific research with you. Do you have a friend who is a doctor. How about contacting doctors without borders. I’m not saying don’t ask questions. I’m saying to learn how to even ask a question that’s relevant. Google U is not a real place of education, it only creates the illusion of knowledge. You want to ask questions, do some real work next time.

  • nworder

    Who needs vaers reports when your child dies after crazy vaccine schedules. You are a low life liar who has a pharma propaganda degree . You cant stoop any lower than the job you are in. Like the nazi camp guards who told the Jews they were only going for a shower is what you are like – but you wont escape the effect of your lying.
    All liars go to the lake of fire – you know this already.

  • James M. Barber

    Its nonsense. Vaccine reactions are incredibly rare and this incident is more or less a scare tactic used by quacks to appeal to nut cases.

  • nworder

    Doctors without borders kill babies and children with vaccines. They are doing it with bill gates polio vaccine guaranteed with non polio symptoms – lol

  • nworder

    VACCINES HAVE KILLED MILLIONS :-

    NSNBC – INTERNATIONAL :-

    “In 2011 there were an extra 47500 new cases of NPAFP [non-polio acute flaccid paralysis]. Clinically indistinguishable from polio paralysis but twice as deadly, the incidence of NPAFP was directly proportional to doses of oral polio received. Through this data was collected within the polio surveillance system, it was not investigated.”

    The Oral Polio Vaccines were given to Indian children. The CDC dropped the OPV from its vaccine schedule in the US because it was causing polio.

    “In 1976, Dr. Jonas Salk, creator of the killed-virus vaccine used in the 1950s, testified that the live-virus vaccine (used almost exclusively in the U.S. from the early 1960s to 2000) was the ‘principal if not sole cause’ of all reported polio cases in the U.S. since 1961 [44]. (The virus remains in the throat for one to two weeks and in the feces for up to two months.

    Thus, vaccine recipients are at risk, and can potentially spread the disease, as long as fecal excretion of the virus continues [45].) In 1992, the Federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published an admission that the live-virus vaccine had become the dominant cause of polio in the United States [36]. In fact, according to CDC figures, every case of polio in the U.S. since 1979 was caused by the oral polio vaccine [36]. Authorities claim the vaccine was responsible for about eight cases of polio every year [46]. However, an independent study that analyzed the government’s own vaccine database during a recent period of less than five years uncovered 13,641 reports of adverse events following use of the oral polio vaccine.
    These reports included 6,364 emergency room visits and 540 deaths (Figure 3) [47,48]. Public outrage at these tragedies became the impetus for removing the oral polio vaccine from immunization schedules [36:568;37;38].”

  • nworder

    “The insert in no way represents the actual data on what vaccines are known to cause as reactions.”

    WHIT ? So why the ………! do the pharma bandits put
    the warnings on the inserts you guttersniping crawler – licking big pharma executive’s boots for a few dollars.

    Get an honest job and be a real man – shovel cow dung – it is a breath of fresh air compared with what you do for a living – you are the lowest of the low everything you say is a lie – how do you feel when you wake up .

  • nworder

    You will be gone sometime – the elites of the vaccine billions are using you just now for a few bucks a post – but you know too much and one day they will want to silence you – just i case you become a normal honest human.

  • James M. Barber

    I have a world class education, and blue collar job. I’m your worst nightmare conspiracy nut. I make six figures climbing buildings in NYC, but my hobbies include reading peer reviewed journal articles. So feel free to go back to school and attempt to figure out how the real world works. Maybe make a friend of a scientist, they don’t bite.

  • James M. Barber

    Do you believe in chem trails too? It would really help me out if you did.

  • James M. Barber
  • James M. Barber

    Conspiracy theorist nut job. You should seek serious medical help. You are making people who question vaccines look nuttier than squirl shit. For the sake of your cause you should probably not enter a debate that includes parents. People who hide who they are online are usually not normal responsible people, and likely have a mental disorder. I suggest you seek help. I have no interest in your conspiracy about big pharma, as I”m sure you have no interest in making a real friend with a doctor or scientist.

  • nworder

    I used your own side to destroy what you were saying about “no fetal tissue” . You live in lies – when you wake up you wake up to lie and when you fall asleep you have lied 100 or so times – then another day of lies and so on and so on – it will affect you , living a lie – you might become insane .
    You probably earn a few thousand from home since you cannot get a job – but after years of trolling you will be job office poison – a pathological liar without human empathy
    for destroyed babies.

  • nworder

    You are no doctor or scientist or you would not be doing this despicable job .

    “Neetu Vashisht and Jacob Puliyel at St. Stephens Hospital in Delhi address the question of eradication:

    “The charade about polio eradication and the great savings it will bring has persisted to date. It is a paradox that while the director general of WHO, Margret Chan, and Bill Gates are trying to muster support for polio eradication (22) it has been known to the scientific community, for over 10 years, that eradication of polio is impossible. This is because in 2002 scientists had synthesised a chemical called poliovirus in a test-tube with the empirical formula C332,652H492,388N98,245O131,196P7, 501S2,340. It has been demonstrated that by positioning the atoms in sequence, a particle can emerge with all the properties required for its proliferation and survival in nature (23, 24).” [Emphasis added.]

    “Wimmer writes that the test-tube synthesis of poliovirus has wiped out any possibility of eradicating poliovirus in the future. Poliovirus cannot be declared extinct because the sequence of its genome is known and modern biotechnology allows it to be resurrected at any time in vitro. Man can thus never let down his guard against poliovirus. Indeed the 18-year-old global eradication campaign for polioviruses will have to be continued in some format forever. The long promised ‘infinite’ monetary benefits from ceasing to vaccinate against poliovirus will never be achieved (24). The attraction that ‘eradication’ has for policy makers will vanish once this truth is widely known.”

  • nworder

    You are talking to the only one who listens to your bull
    – YOURSELF – LOL

  • nworder

    Of course they chemtrail – biological warfare and chemically engineering the weather is right back to WW2.
    The USAF used it in vietnam to download rain on the vietcong and also as agent orange. Why would they not be still doing it.
    You are an idiot – stick to your vaccine trolling – your little pharma booklet will help you – but dont leave the only subject area you can work at since you are unemployable.

  • Xander Naudé

    having just skimmed through some of your previous comments I can attest that you are, indeed, a completely ignorant anti-vaxxer. Talk to your own kids about this. Assuming they live long enough to learn to speak.

  • nworder

    By reading your trolls you do not have much education – you just make fantasy stories – like a sort of vaccine Walter Mitty – lol

  • James M. Barber
  • James M. Barber

    You may have to grapple with this notion some day. Hopefully you will get treatment for your paranoid delusions.http://www.denverpost.com/ci_18151310

  • nworder

    “Skim” is about all you will ever be able to do – you mindless troll.
    My kids and grandchildren are not vaxxed and are 100% healthy – but I know a lot of vaccine damaged kids.
    Only a sick …………..! like you would support this vaccine holocaust.

  • James M. Barber

    quick go put on a guy faux mask and pretend to hack.

  • nworder

    I would love to stick you with 10,000 vaccinations.

    “From Vashisht and Puliyel:

    “It has been reported in the Lancet that the incidence of AFP, especially non-polio AFP has increased exponentially in India after a high potency polio vaccine was introduced (25). Grassly and colleagues suggested, at that time, that the increase in AFP was the result of a deliberate effort to intensify surveillance and reporting in India (26). The National Polio Surveillance Programme maintained that the increased numbers were due to reporting of mild weakness, presumably weakness of little consequence (27).

    “However in 2005, a fifth of the cases of non-polio AFP in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh (UP) were followed up after 60 days. 35.2% were found to have residual paralysis and 8.5% had died (making the total of residual paralysis or death – 43.7%) (28). Sathyamala examined data from the following year and showed that children who were identified with non-polio AFP were at more than twice the risk of dying than those with wild polio infection (27).

    “Data from India on polio control over 10 years, available from the National Polio Surveillance Project, has now been compiled and made available online for it to be scrutinised by epidemiologists and statisticians (29). This shows that the non-polio AFP rate increases in proportion to the number of polio vaccines doses received in each area.”

  • Xander Naudé

    confirmed troll. Good attempt, but you lack any confidence in your statements.

  • AutismDad

    Here some reading for you
    http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/index.html
    http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statisticsreport.pdf
    I think you’ll see what vaccines do to thousands each year.

  • AutismDad

    And you will celebtate and applaud I assume.

  • James M. Barber

    What part of NON POLIO flaccid paralysis do you conspiracy nuts not understand. Yes now that polio has been eliminated it appears that there is another NON POLIO enterovirus that is also causing NON POLIO flaccid paralysis. They have started to work on a vaccine for that particular problem. Thankfully the only two place with polio are afghanistan and pakistan. Where their version of the conspiracy nut job is shooting at aid workers. Get profession help, you seriously might have a problem worth noting. Not all adults hide online to pretend they can do science. They usually go back to school and become scientists and doctors.

  • Xander Naudé
  • AutismDad

    When you think to yourself do you hear BBRRRAATT BBBRRAATTT BRATT? Cause that’s a brain fart.

  • nworder

    Trolls like yourself are supposed to make an impact – you just come out with bland meaningless bull .
    You are fired by your pharma masters – now go get a real job.
    Cleaning out sewers would be a breath of fresh air compared with what you do to scrape a few bucks .

  • Xander Naudé

    cleaning sewers would be more enlightening than having conversations with you. Have your last laugh, I’m gonna go enjoy not being sick or worrying about the future of my kids. Good day

  • nworder

    FLACCID NON POLIO = POLIO

    CALL IT ANOTHER NAME BUT DIFFERENT POLIOS WERE ALWAYS AROUND.

    Death from smallpox vaccines is RENAMED chickenpox

    DR HADWEN :-

    “But,” we are told, “the children don’t die.”
    Well, that may be all very well; we will see whether they die or not.
    Turn to Germany, for instance. During that epidemic I spoke of just now there were 2,140 cases of children under ten who had small-pox, and 736 of them died; there were 1,503 cases vaccinated under five, and there were 573 deaths. You may say,

    “Then why is it they don’t die in this country?”

    Turn to the Muller’s Orphanage in Bristol. In 1872 there were 740 children, all vaccinated, and 292 cases of small-pox amongst them, and there were 17 deaths.

    But I can give you the reason, perhaps, why the children don’t die—why vaccinated children don’t die from small-pox so much as we should expect.

    In 1886, for instance, there were 275 cases of small-pox deaths altogether throughout England and Wales; there was only one vaccinated child that died from small-pox under ten years of age, but there were 93 children who died from “chicken-pox.” (Laughter.)

    And the Registrar-General, in commenting upon the fact, declared that nearly, if not all. those cases should have been registered as small-pox, because chicken-pox “never kills “; and Dr. Ogle, the chief in the Registrar-General’s Department, told the Royal Commission as a witness before it, that he had never known chicken-pox kill a child in his life. (Cheers.)
    Why were not they registered as small-pox?
    In 1893, the last published returns we have, there were 127 children who were reported to have died from “chicken-pox”; so perhaps that will explain why “the children don’t die.” (Laughter and cheers.)

    James just imagine if you were like this brave doctor who helped stop the vaccine crazies in england – all his life he fought the superstition but all your life you are going to writing silly little blog skits for your pharma masters.
    On your gravestone ” Here lies a liar for pharma who supported the vaccine holocaust on defenseless infants”

  • Free People

    Good tune. I can put that to music!

  • Free People

    One can certainly identify who the paid trolls are by hovering over the upvote arrow on your ridiculous comment. VaxINC is DESPERATE!

  • nworder

    If you’ve got kids dont vaccinate them – this is child abuse- you will destroy their health and IQ.
    But I think you have no kids and even if you had you would not vaccinate them – you know too much – the liars you work for must have shown you the agenda.

    So you are even lower than them since you know the truth
    about vaccines – syringes full of toxic chemicals and pus injected into your bloodstream – this makes you healthy ????? LOL

  • nworder

    A NURSE VACCICTIONER – MORE LIKE IT .
    How many lives have you destroyed – if you were a nurse I mean – which you probably aren’t

  • Mike Stevens

    You do realise that as part of surveillance after India’s polio eradication effort, ALL cases of neurological diseases have to be notified and tested for polio viruses (as explained above)

    Given that, would you expect the number of previously unidentified cases of paralysis/neurological problems that are NOT due to polio to:
    1. Go up?
    2. Go down?
    3. Stay the same?

  • nworder

    I would expect that live polio vaccine will cause a massive increase in polio cases.

    This would put the vaccinators into a panic and they would have to think up a new name for the POLIO symptoms that would result from these polio cases .

    IN ESSENCE ” MUDDY THE WATERS” and quick !

    So they come up with NON POLIO polio symptoms – LOL.

    FROM HELL TO VEINS :-

    “By 1964 the polio vaccines had created so many new polio cases in the US and abroad that the CDC was forced to either admit that the polio vaccine was one of the biggest hoaxes since the small pox vaccine or they had to hide the FACT by reclassifying polio to mask the polio epidemic caused by the polio vaccine.

    Since the CDC is run by the very same big pharma companies that developed the polio vaccines, in 1964 they helped out there partners in crime the vaccine manufactures and renamed vaccine caused polio ‘aseptic meningitis’.

    Today, polio caused by vaccination has up to 10 different names, but that’s only the tip of the iceberg.

    Scientists who have studied these vaccines and are NOT afraid of being silenced conclude from their research that these vaccine have created super polio viral strains.
    As a matter of fact, I know a nurse who along with nine other coworkers including a doctor, were told they had to take a Hep B vaccine OR face termination of their employment. Each of the nine developed MS after receiving the vaccine. MS would have been diagnosed as polio had she come down with it in the 1930’s-1950’s.

    We only need to look at Bill and Melinda Gates to see the carnage the polio vaccine has recently wrecked upon this earth.

    Bill Gates, a devout anti-human malthusian, (always the financiers of vaccines) brought to the population of India their live virus polio vaccine and created one of the worst polio epidemics the country of India had ever scene. The vaccine created a super polio virus (military grade) and 17 million children were so severely crIppled that many of them had to be put on respirators (the modern day ‘iron lung’)”

  • nworder

    Good post – these numb skulls think that they can help the incredibly designed immune system with some toxic chemicals and bits of pus from various species including humans .

  • nworder

    Chis Kendal is blogging ignorance to make a few bucks at the expense of his soul.

  • Proponent

    I am not at all familiar with that particular sound.. as you seemingly are, Dud.

  • nworder

    Creating peanut , aluminium, mercury etc etc antibodies – anything except antibodies to disease – lol

  • Free People

    Exactly! Like my buddy at NN always says “peer review is akin to two prostitute$$$ admiring each other.” That would be Gladiatoro. Spot on.

  • nworder

    ALUMINIUM WILL KILL YOUR BABY :-

    ““Aluminum may reach toxic levels with prolonged parenteral administration [this means injected into the body] if kidney function is impaired . . . Research indicates that patients with impaired kidney function, including premature neonates [babies], who received parenteral levels of aluminum at greater than 4 to 5 micrograms per kilogram of body weight per day, accumulate aluminum at levels associated with central nervous system and bone toxicity [for a tiny newborn, this toxic dose would be 10 to 20 micrograms, and for an adult it would be about 350 micrograms].

    Tissue loading may occur at even lower rates of administration.” [Department of Health and Human Services, Food and Drug Administration, Document NDA 19-626/S-019, Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act for Dextrose Injections.]

  • nworder

    ALUMINIUM WILL KILL YOU :-

    “At birth, most children are given the hepatitis B vaccination. The amount of aluminum in the Hepatitis B vaccine alone is almost 14 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF ALUMINUM THAT IS FDA-APPROVED.

    At well-child check-ups, it’s common for 2 month, 4 month, 6 month etc., appointments to include up to 8 vaccinations that add up to more than 1,000 mcg of aluminum. Look at the chart above and notice that that amount isn’t even safe for a 350 pound adult. And many children get up to 8 vaccinations a visit several times a year!

    According to the FDA and the AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics), what happens if a child receives more than the maximum required dose of aluminum?

    Aluminum builds up in the bones and brain and can be toxic.

    Aluminum can cause neurological harm.

    Aluminum overdose can be fatal in patients with weak kidney’s or kidney disorders or in premature babies. (How many children are tested to see if their kidney’s are functioning properly before they are vaccinated? Could this also be why the Hepatitis B shot, given to infants at birth, has been linked to SIDS? Neonatal Deaths After Hep B vaccination.)

    [Aluminum Toxicity in Infants and Children, Committee on Nutrition,American Academy of Pediatrics, Pediatrics Volume 97, Number 3 March, 1996, pp. 413-416] “

  • Proponent

    Huge.. fail, nworder.

    Go.. fish.

  • nworder

    FORMALDEHYDE – THE DEADLY INGREDIENT OF VACCINES :-

    “According to the National Research Council:

    Fewer than 20% but perhaps more than 10% of the general population may be susceptible to formaldehyde allergies and may react acutely at any exposure level.

    Formaldehyde is oxidised to formic acid which leads to acidosis and nerve damage. Acidosis can be described as a condition in which the acidity of the body tissues and fluids is abnormally high. The liver and the kidneys may also be damaged.

    Other known side effects from exposure to formaldehyde:
    Alters tissue proteins
    anaemia
    antibodies formation
    apathy
    blood in urine
    body aches
    cardiac impairment
    palpitations and arrhythmias
    central nervous system depression
    changes in higher cognitive functions
    chest pains and tightness
    colds
    coma
    constipation
    convulsions
    death
    destruction of red blood cells
    depression
    diarrhoea
    difficulty concentrating
    disorientation
    dizziness
    ear aches
    eczema
    emotional upsets
    fatigue
    foetal asphyxiation [SIDS, perhaps?]
    flu-like or cold like illness
    UTI
    gastritis
    gastrointestinal inflammation
    headaches
    hyperactivity
    hypomenstrual syndrome
    immune system sensitiser
    impaired (short) attention span
    inability to recall words and names
    inconsistent IQ profiles
    asthma
    irritability
    jaundice
    retarded speech pattern
    schizophrenic-type symptoms
    sensitivity to sound

    [Chronic Exposure and Human Health] Keep in mind that chronic exposure –from the source — means “exposed several times”

    WHAT ABOUT 100 VACCINE TIMES !

  • Proponent

    You only serve to underscore your complete lack of understanding of the subject and material at hand .. and .. embarrass yourself further, nworder.

  • Proponent

    “Let’s see your SCIENCE?”

    Agreed.. let’s see your science, John. You’ve not provided any as yet.

  • nworder

    Your life of lies – why not get a real job instead of living under the jackboot of your pharma masters – it will destroy you eventually. It takes less energy to work at an honest job – and you will get more pay.
    Break free before they break you for knowing too much.

    Your next post will be as a fema vaccination camp guard .

  • nworder

    He He – and this info was from your own medical mafia side
    lol

  • nworder

    John obviously is educated – he has provided loads of evidence and we all know that.
    But you just talk nebulous bull since you are unemployed – the only reason anyone would do a stinking job trolling for mega rich pharma overlords who don’t care if you live or die.
    YOU ARE A PROPONENT OF LIES – thats all your fit for.

  • Proponent

    Oh, you mean like the following kind of ‘info’:

    “Vaccine-Preventable Diseases:

    Chickenpox (Varicella)
    Diphtheria
    Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
    Hepatitis A and Hepatitis B
    Human Papillomavirus Infection
    Influenza
    Measles
    Meningococcal Disease
    Mumps
    Pertussis (Whooping Cough)
    Pneumococcal Disease
    Poliomyelitis
    Rotavirus
    Rubella
    Shingles (Herpes Zoster)
    Smallpox
    Tetanus
    Yellow Fever”

    Yes, it is a good site, isn’t it nworder?

    (p.s. And again.. and referencing your supposed ‘gotcha!’ moment.. sorry. No ‘gotcha’ for you.. you failed to prove.. anything. In fact.. you didn’t even make a cogent point in your copy and paste job of a post.)

  • Proponent

    This is getting very embarrassing for you, nworder.

    Maybe.. instead of trying to take John down with you (’cause.. admit it.. your endorsement is not worth much given the quality of your posts/comments).. let John speak for himself?

  • nworder

    THATS FUNNY I NEVER WAS VACCINATED AND NEVER GOT ILL – apart from two days with the mumps – it did not feel too bad.

    HOWEVER – vaccination WILL give you the above diseases .

    POLIO WAS CAUSED BY VACCINATION :-

    By 1964 the polio vaccines had created so many new polio cases in the US and abroad that the CDC was forced to either admit that the polio vaccine was one of the biggest hoaxes since the small pox vaccine or they had to hide the FACT by reclassifying polio to mask the polio epidemic caused by the polio vaccine. Since the CDC is run by the very same big pharma companies that developed the polio vaccines, in 1964 they helped out there partners in crime the vaccine manufactures and renamed vaccine caused polio ‘aseptic meningitis’.

    Today, polio caused by vaccination has up to 10 different names, but that’s only the tip of the iceberg. Scientists who have studied these vaccines and are NOT afraid of being silenced conclude from their research that these vaccine have created super polio viral strains. As a matter of fact, I know a nurse who along with nine other coworkers including a doctor, were told they had to take a Hep B vaccine OR face termination of their employment. Each of the nine developed MS after receiving the vaccine. MS would have been diagnosed as polio had she come down with it in the 1930’s-1950’s.

    We only need to look at Bill and Melinda Gates to see the carnage the polio vaccine has recently wrecked upon this earth. Bill Gates, a devout anti-human malthusian, (always the financiers of vaccines) brought to the population of India their live virus polio vaccine and created one of the worst polio epidemics the country of India had ever scene. The vaccine created a super polio virus (military grade) and 17 million children were so severely crppled that many of them had to be put on resporators (the modern day ‘iron lung’)

  • nworder

    Heh Heh – I am not embarrassed in the least, you are on a permanent fantasy. You have been told by your masters to keep posting .

    POLIO – NON POLIO SYMPTOMS – LOL

    BILL GATES THE DEPOPULATOR :-

    ““Nationally, the non-polio AFP rate is now 12 times higher than expected. In the states of Uttar Pradesh (UP) and Bihar, which have pulse polio rounds nearly every month, the non-polio AFP rate is 25- and 35-fold higher than the international norms. The relationship of the non-polio AFP rate is curvilinear with a more steep increase beyond six doses of OPV in one year.
    The non-polio AFP rate during the year best correlates to the cumulative doses received in the previous three years. Association (R2) of the non-polio AFP rate with OPV doses received in 2009 was 41.9%.”

  • Justthefacts

    I don’t normally post anymore but this is such a clear case. The medical examiner ruled this case to be SUUDS. with no evidence for the cause of death. Of all of the claimed dangers and threats attributed to vaccines, there is not one that causes death five days later and leaves no trace. That cannot even be blamed on any known disease or interaction unless you are an anti-vaxxer who claims without any support that all cases of SIDS and SUUDS are due to vaccines even though the rate of SIDS and SUUDS for the unvaccinated is the same. I am sure that Bentley was 100% healthy prior to the vaccinations and also 100% health after the vaccinations because if he was sick after the vaccinations, I am sure that Alise would have taken him to the doctor, Right? If not, then she would have deserved to lose her kids to protective services.

    When you add to this that she had to defend herself to get her daughter back from protective services, and she needed to declare a cause and vaccines are the current culprit du jour.
    This is not a vaccination problem; this is a problem with processing grief and the threat of losing another child.

  • nworder

    Get back to not posting anymore and change your avatar to “just the bullshit”

    I have seldom read such a confusing load of junk even from vaccine trolls like yourself.

    SIDS is caused by vaccines as we all know – you are wasting your time on this earth posting lies and disinformation just like your little troll book tells you to do.

    SIDS ADMITTED BY FDA :-
    “Since some of us are on the topic of vaccines, how many of you know the package insert for the Dtap vaccine includes SIDS as a possible side effect? Here is a link, straight from the FDA. Scroll down to page 11 and you can read it for yourself.

    Now, I don’t know about you, but I will not be injecting anything into my child that will have any chance of increasing his/her chance of SIDS. SIDS usually occures between 2, 4, and 6 months. The same time frame that the Dtap vaccine is given.

    I don’t care if you are anti, or pro vaccine. But as a parent, you have a duty, and a responsibilty to your child to research any and all substances that you will putting into their body. Most parents take more time researching car seats, and day cares than they do vaccines. I find that sad.� For me, I have been researching vaccines and their ingredients for 12 years…. long before I became a parent because in working with children, I saw a lot of bad reactions, even a couple of deaths within hours of getting the vaccines. Do your homework, don’t follow blindly. Educate yourself, then make your decision.”

  • Free People

    Nope! gin11153 is still trying to convince herself she’s a “nurse practitioner” hence she includes the lie in every post. Unfortunately, she has most certainly NOT convinced anyone else either. Troll practitioner.- yes!

  • Justthefacts

    ….and here is the part you left out from the FDA:
    .
    “Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting. Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequencies or to establish a causal relationship to components of Tripedia vaccine.”
    .
    So the FDA does not admit anything and you like to read what you want to read into everything.
    .
    The WHO says this:
    .
    ” In fact, when a number of well-controlled studies were conducted during the 1980s, the investigators found, nearly unanimously, that the number of SIDS deaths temporally associated with DTP vaccination was within the range expected to occur by chance. In other words, the SIDS deaths would have occurred even if no vaccinations had been given”
    .
    And a nice paper:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/
    .
    and the CDC:
    .
    “These results tell us that most SIDS deaths are due to factors like sleeping on their stomachs, cigarette smoke exposure, and mild respiratory infections.”

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/sids.html

    So NO, there is no link between SIDS and vaccines. Furthermore, there is no “imaginable” disorder caused by vaccines that leaves no evidence after death. If that is unclear, I am saying that you can’t think up a cause of death, from vaccines, that is undetectable and kills five days later with no symptoms so weak as to not take the child to the doctor.
    .
    Give it a try……

  • nworder

    SIDS STARTED WITH VACCINATION
    ITS ON THE SIDE EFFECTS
    IT WAS PRACTICALLY UNKNOWN BEFORE VACCINATION.

    “According to Harris Coulter PhD, “Crib death” was so infrequent in the pre-vaccination era that it was not even mentioned in statistics.

    It started to climb in the 1950s with the spread of mass vaccinations. So much so it even acquired a new name-“SIDS,” Sudden Infant Death Syndrome of unknown origin.

    The medical establishment assures us that SIDS is unrelated to vaccines which begs the question ; –
    How do you know its not vaccines if it is of unknown origin?

    The three primary doses of DPT are given at two, four and six months of age. Eighty-five per cent of SIDS deaths occur from one to six months of age, with the peak incidence from two to four months. Another coincidence?

    In a recent study of SIDS, breathing was monitored before and after vaccination. The data clearly showed that vaccination caused an extraordinary increase in episodes where breathing either nearly ceased or stopped completely. This is why it is so important to have our babies sleep on their backs, if you plan on vaccinating. It is easier for them to breath. Another problem associated with breathing is Asthma. Vaccinated children are shown to be five times more likely to become afflicted with this serious respiratory ailment.

    Dr. William Torch of the University of Nevada School of Medicine did a study of 103 children who died of SIDS. He found that more than two-thirds had been vaccinated with DPT prior to death. Of these, 6.5% died within 12 hours; 13 % died within 24 hours; 26% died within 3 days; and 37, 61 and 70 % within 1,2,3 weeks respectively. Anything that happens to a baby after four weeks is considered God-given. The average time it takes for a vaccine to dissipate in the body is 10-12 days. Click here for Dr Buttram’s explanation. Even if a baby dies immediately after a vaccination the cause of death will be labeled SIDS. Here is one example in the vaccine adverse reporting system.

    The package insert on the DTP vaccine states the following adverse events have occurred:

    Persistent, inconsolable crying ……1/100 doses.Transient shock-like episodes……. 1/1750 dosesConvulsions……………………………….. 1/1750 doses.

  • Free People

    Awwww…need some tissue, cry baby. Move on over to the Daily Beast where you’re appreciated.

  • Justthefacts

    Next time just post the link you cut and pasted from. This is it and the entire text of your post:
    http://www.vaccinetruth.org/page_9.htm
    It is from one of the sites of unsupported vaccine claims.
    .
    So i’ts settled that you were wrong about the FDA. Good.
    .
    Harris Coulter PhD is not a doctor he is a homeopath. Enough said.
    .
    There is no such study done by Dr. William Torch. It has been sited on websites without referenced but there is no such study.
    .
    I don’t know where this package insert is and neither do you. You just cut and pasted that response. Here is a link to the DAPTACEL package insert and there is no such claim of a SIDS side effect.
    https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?doc_id=11179&image_type=product_pdf

    Try thinking and looking into things for yourself and not just pasting lies from a fraud website. They are usually wrong and it makes you look bad.

  • nworder

    Since I know for certain you are a paid liar for vaccination

    I never would believe anything you say or even bother to check it – the truth will always be the opposite of what you spout :-

    SIDS IS THE GREAT GET OUT CLAUSE FOR VACCINE DEATH

    “The grief and responsibility parents feel after losing their child to vaccines is unimaginable and extremely traumatic. Many parents regret not researching vaccines before trusting others to make that decision for them. This mother received proof her son Nicholas plausibly died from the vaccines and she wants to remind parents how important it is to be your own advocate and to do your own research.

    Her experience leads to this simple reminder, that if you rely on someone else to make these decisions for you, putting your child’s life in their hands, you could pay the ultimate price of losing them.

    This tragic and true story is written in honor of Nicholas Lee Copenhaver (March 7, 2013 – July 15, 2013). He passed away less than 3 days after receiving the 4 month vaccines.
    His death was ruled SIDS on the autopsy report. At the time the autopsy was done, the pathologist was unaware he had been recently vaccinated because he was not told.”

  • nworder

    YOU ARE JUST A DIRTY LIAR :-

    “Death after whooping-cough vaccination was first described by a Danish physician in 1933.
    Two Americans in 1946 described the deaths of identical twins within 24 hours of a DPT shot (on the background and history of SIDS see H. Coulter and B. Fisher, DPT: A Shot in the Dark). E. M. Taylor and J. L. Emery in 1982 wrote: “we cannot exclude the possibility of recent immunisation being one of several contributory factors in an occasional unexpected infant death.”

    But the early 1980s were a turning-point in the official line.
    DR WILLIAM TORCH :-
    In that same year of 1982 matters came to a crisis when William C. Torch, M.D., Director of Child Neurology, Department of Pediatrics, University of Nevada School of Medicine, at the 34th Annual Meeting of the American Academy of Pediatrics, presented a study linking the DPT shot with SIDS. Torch concluded: “These data show that DPT vaccination may be a generally unrecognized major cause of sudden infant and early childhood death, and that the risks of immunization may outweigh its potential benefits. A need for reevaluation and possible modification of current vaccination procedures is indicated by this study.

    Torch’s report provoked an uproar in the American Academy of Pediatrics. At a hastily arranged press conference he was soundly chastised for using “anecdotal data,” meaning (will you believe it?) that he actually interviewed the families concerned!

    This mistake was not made again. Gerald M. Fenichel, MD, chairman of the Department of Neurology at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, in 1983 published an article on vaccinations entitled “the danger of case reports,” and the pro-vaccination literature produced in profusion in later years and decades has generally steered away from and around any such thing as a “case report.” These researchers will examine with minute precision hospital card files, medicare cover sheets, even physicians’ records, but God preserve us from contact with the children themselves or their families!”

  • Free People

    Allopathetic medicine KILLS – Alternative medicine CURES.

  • Free People

    Absolutely right. It’s the “several thousands” of dollars they get from the Insurance (scam) companies at the end of the year after they tally up the vaccinated victims charts. The quacktors/quacktricians get paid handsomely to force vaccines on unsuspecting parents who ‘trust’ their white coats.

    I know many people who have told me their quacktrician is telling them to find another quacktor because they refuse to vaccinate. Yes, they FIRE you because their BONU$ is more important than the lives of infants, children and people. (pets too)..same protocol.

    Hope your family member takes your information seriously.

  • Mike Stevens

    Except all these cases were tested by PCR for polio viruses – wild and vaccine strain.
    And they didn’t find them.
    The “non-polio AFP” cases are NOT due to polio or polio vaccine, no matter how much your little antivaccine, “I-love-polio-and-wish-kids-everywhere-could-all-get-it” heart may want it to be true.

    PS: Care to answer my question now, and not the one you wanted to answer?

  • Justthefacts

    You are certain of many things you have no evidence for so it is no surprise that you think that you know my occupation. The event you described was cut and pasted from here:
    http://vactruth.com/2015/02/03/sids-death-vaccines/
    .
    Since all of your posts come directly from Vactruth.com, it is much more likely that you are a shill for vactruth.com. In fact, since you repeat the words exactly, you are a shill by definition.
    .
    By the way, there is no vaccine court case or entry into the VAERS Data base for a “Copenhaver” ever. Look for yourself. Unless you can find the case, the story is a lie.
    http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/opinion-search

  • Justthefacts

    You just cut and pasted that rant from this site:
    http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/coulter/sids.html
    .
    It was written by Harris L. Coulter, PhD who is not a medical doctor but believes you can cure cancer with homeopathy. We can’t call him a quack because you have to be a doctor to be a quack. He is more of a charlatan in that he promotes homeopathy as a cure. He is not a very good source for your vaccination claims considering he is not even qualified to give a vaccination.

  • Katia

    Agreed. Someone else reported to VAERS that she turned into Wonder Woman after an immunization.

  • Justthefacts

    Oh, and as the website says, Dr William touch was ” was effectively silenced” which means that no papers where done, no data published and he probably don’t support anti-vaxx claims. Try picking a source with published data and maybe it can be reviewed as valid.

  • Andrew Kasch

    Tell that to Steve Jobs.

  • Katia

    My God! Oral polio vaccine has been around since 1961! http://www.immunize.org/catg.d/p4215.pdf
    If there were going to be some massive outbreaks of polio, you’d think we’d have seen them in the ensuing 54 (fifty-four) years!

    There is no question that the incidence of polio dropped like a stone after the introduction of the vaccine.

    The men in the white coats will arrive soon.

  • Katia

    I may have a little time before the men in the white coats arrive. SIDS has been described in the Old Testament.
    http://sids-network.org/facts.htm
    ” SIDS is not new. It is referenced in the Old Testament (1 Kings 3:19).”

  • guest

    First of all I don’t believe you are a nurse practitioner because a genuine nurse practitioner would not make such a ridiculous statement. I have several Doctors and RN’s in my family and I have been in a profession that deals with all aspects of children’s medical, educational and mental health cares. I have been present when multiple vaccines have been given and I would ask “it is OK to do that-right?” Response: “we do it all the time.”

  • guest

    I’m sure you have some reason to connect politics to this comment but I really don’t care.

    You have a problem following the train of thought you initiated. My “I don’t care comment” was in reference to you reasoning for inserting politics into the comment you made. I asked specifically why do you care how I am identified? Just because there is a name attached to a comment doesn’t mean it is your legal birth name.

    As to being a troll…whatever. I feel no need to defend my position, which you have no idea about, to you or anyone else. Om Namaste.

  • AutismDad

    When you are given lemons make lemonade. Its too bad your life sucks/blows, disappointment must be your daily companion.

  • AutismDad

    How is it described in the old testament? ” And thenith afterith vaccinith the child died “?

  • Katia

    The Bible verse is in my quote. Look it up.

  • AutismDad

    I can tell by the denial you know it well. An intervention may be needed . Call all your FRIEND to help. Maybe you can do it on your next prison visit.

  • gin11153

    I absolutely am an RN and family NP

  • gin11153

    Not confusing anyone at all. And yes I am a family NP caring for all patient from birth to old age

  • nworder

    SIDS shortly after vaccination IS new.

  • nworder

    Polio was rare before vaccination and healthy children recovered – then vaccination came in and polio became epidemic. Even Jonas Salk the vaccine inventor admitted his vaccine caused nearly all polio cases.

    You will never be a good vaccine salesgirl unless you study reality.

    “Revisionist history continues to fuel myth that vaccines are responsible for eradicating disease :-

    “Because of the way drug companies and vaccine manufacturers have influenced governmental and health authorities over the years, the myth that vaccines are responsible for eradicating disease has prevailed.

    Truth be told, the polio vaccine has been shown to actually cause many of the paralysis symptoms associated with polio, including in India where there has been a 1,200 percent increase vaccine-associated polio paralysis (VAPP) since the introduction of massive polio vaccine campaigns throughout the country (http://www.naturalnews.com/035588_polio_vaccine_India_paralysis.html).

    Be sure to read Aufderheide’s complete 7 Trivia Facts About Polio for an eye-opening look at the facts surrounding this notorious disease:

  • nworder

    If you think allopathetic medicine cures cancer you must be on different planet – america is cancer country after spending more on allopathic medicine than any other country by far.

  • nworder

    You grasp at straws not truth – lying is your personality and life.

  • nworder

    Tell that to the millions that die of cancer after receiving cut burn poison in the usa – the cancer nation and country with the highest infant death rate in the developed world
    – even worse than Cuba’s .

  • nworder

    I am glad he is not a doctor injecting little babies with toxic syringes – he is a researcher you fool.
    America is medical death nation no 1 for adults and children – for cancer , degenerative disease – you name it
    -the world’s most unhealthiest nation – caused by its medical “health” system.

  • nworder

    WHY DR TORCH WAS SILENCED :-

    “Even though these two groups are not comparable, Drs. Hoffman et al. compared them anyway, finding that “only” 39.8% of the “cases” had received at least one DPT shot, while 55% of Control A infants and 53.2% of Control B infants had received at least one DPT shot. Since fewer “cases” than “controls” had received the shot, the authors concluded that “DTP immunization is not a significant [what do they mean by “significant?”] factor in the occurrence of SIDS.

    This sort of attempted comparison can only be described as a shambles, a grotesque imitation of scientific method designed to fool the public (and the journalists who are supposed to be monitoring precisely this sort of intellectual dishonesty). It would have made as much sense to interview the first 1600 people they could pick up in the Greyhound Bus Station and ask them about their vaccination status.

    But this article had its effect. Dr. Torch was effectively silenced, and for years this pseudo-science has been cited as one of the medical establishment’s principal weapons in its drive to extend childhood vaccination programs.

    How do you react when your own government lies to you systematically about life-and-death questions? As I have noted earlier, the answer is political action in the state legislatures, and one weapon in the hands of the public is an understanding of the pseudo-science and pseudo-epidemiology represented by articles like this one.”

  • eggman2

    Excellent article and that Dr. Offit is stupid as hell. But I rejoice in that he has the right last name because he is ” off it ” , or like they say in a more vulgar way, ” He ain’t shit. ”

  • eggman2

    There you go with your bullshit again. Didn’t you get the fact that he was perfectly healthy 5 days before the lethal injections, or is it that you don’t know how to read ? Or, am I wrong, and you are exercising your propaganda prostituted abilities again ?

  • eggman2

    Right, that is what I say.

  • eggman2

    What is that that you are not normally posting anymore ? You are all over the place with your bullshit ?

  • nworder

    He is trying to pretend he is above it all and is just condescending to disseminate his wisdom for a little while.
    Meanwhile the only time his brain gets going is when he submits his timesheet to his pharma masters.

  • eggman2

    CDC= center for disease creation

    You love your prostituted to the junk medicine robber barons’ agencies, I know. Now suck on your thumb, and go to sleep. One has to be kind to the mentally challenged people–is what I say to myself all the time.

  • Katia

    If you believe that, you need more help than I could ever provide on a message board. And of course, like all anti-vaxers, you twist the facts, esp. re: Salk’s “admission”. Lying liars lie. Quit listening to them.

  • nworder

    POLIO CAUSED BY VACCINATION

    This is open knowledge – poor Katia cant get a job – doesn’t know her history – good at lying so becomes a troll .

    1955 Salk Polio Vaccine again used in the US.Cases of polio skyrocket again in the United States.

    1955 Reports that doctors on the staff of the National Institutes for Health are avoiding vaccination of their children with the Salk vaccine. After experimenting with 1,200 monkeys, they declared the Salk vaccine worthless as a preventative and a danger to take.

    1955 Vermont reports a 266% increase in polio since vaccinations began in 1954.

    1955 Rhode Island reports 454% increase in polio since vaccinations in 1954.

    1955 Massachusetts reports 642% increase in polio since vaccinations began in 1954 with vaccination of 130,000 children. In response, the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis states that the increase in cases was due to the fact that “no children were vaccinated there.” Massachusetts bans the sale of Salk vaccine.”

    1955 Dr. Graham W. Wilson, director of Britains Public Health Laboratory Service, who knew about the NIH Salk vaccine trials, says “I do not see how any vaccine prepared by Salk’s method can be guaranteed safe.”

    1955 US Surgeon General Scheele admits in a closed session of the AMA that “Salk polio vaccine is hard to make and no batch can be proven safe before given to children”. Despite this fact, the public is told that the vaccine is safe. The government announces that it has the intention to vaccinate 57 million people before August 1955.

  • guest

    “Any idiot can report to VAERS,”
    Name calling is the last refuge of the outargued.

    “The insert in no way represents the actual data on what vaccines are known to cause as reactions.”
    Please indicated in my comment where I STATED it represented actual data. I posted information directly from the vial package insert and it was easy to understand. That is all.

    “NVIC is a no fault law system to help people in case of serious reaction.”
    Please indicated in my posting where I referenced NVIC.

    “Pretending to be a doctor is a bad idea, and this illustrates it perfectly.”
    Please indicate in my comment where I pretend to be a Doctor, where I referred to myself as a Doctor, where I even posted the word Doctor.

    “You have no idea what VAERS is, and if you did you wouldn’t read the insert as if it were evidence of any sort.”
    I do but my understanding is way above your pay grade.
    What is now, 5 cents a word. Also, please indicate in my comment where I mentioned VAERS, where I discussed VAERS, where I alluded to VAERS or even wrote the word VAERS.

    Your post was nothing more than a rambling attempt to distract from the vaccine vial insert. It speaks for itself. Your attack is nothing more than online bullying in a vain attempt to discredit the information and to give some creditability to your comment:

    “You don’t understand what is written in the insert, why the hell would you read it.”

    Personal attacks and inventing comments that I supposeably have made are very revealing of your intent and the fact that the individuals that upticked you have already been revealed as trolls your entire response in moot considering the information posted is from the vaccine manufacture. You tangent in regards to the NVIC and VAERS is a blatant attempt to misled others who are reading these comments, in the wrong direction.

    Overall, your responding comment is a FAIL.

  • Free People

    Sure. If that were true, they’d never make it to childhood, much less to old age.

  • nworder

    At five cents a word Barber is overpaid by a million times.
    Yes like a slippery liar he puts words in people’s mouths.

  • Free People

    Nope. Looking to prove to yourself that you
    are right about your biases is the opposite of scientific. When a person makes a
    religion out of opposing natural medicine, it says a lot about their inability
    to reason. Can you prove Steve Jobs died because he didn’t ‘Cut, Poison, Burn’
    under Cancer, INC? Can you prove he’d still be alive today had he subjected
    himself to the cancer INC $cam. No you can’t. Most do not survive Cancer INC
    protocol. It’s deadly.

    Drugs and surgery are not ‘the way, the truth
    and the life’ when in comes to healthcare. To portray allopathetic medicine as
    some kind of scientifically based ‘truth’ is to blind yourself to the facts.
    Much of it is anything but scientific and/or ‘truth’, and vaccination, without a
    doubt, most certainly falls under this category as proof.

    Many people attribute getting their lives back to changing the way
    they take care of themselves, by replacing drugs with nutritional and botanical
    therapies. Some, like my own mother (a foreigner) who is 94, has never been
    vaccinated or taken drugs. She has all her teeth, never broken a bone, never had
    a surgery, never had a mammogram or gone to a gynocologist. She had 7 natural
    births and all of us survived and are healthy most likely due to the diet she
    provided of real food and her deliberate efforts to keep us away from the
    ‘quacktors’. Her home remedies always worked and if she went for any treatment
    it would be Chinese accupuncture (the only needles she allowed) or Chinese
    Traditional Medicine. I, more than any of my siblings, follow her ways and can
    only thank her for the WISDOM she has provided with regards to ‘health’. BTW,
    although a foreigner, she did graduate from Bowling Green University, Ohio, and
    proudly without being ‘indoctrinated’ into the Matrix. The ‘alternative’ of
    taking petroleum derivatives and cutting off troublesome body parts is just not
    for me and my family. If you don’t put the poisons into the body, the body
    always responds with good health. Vaccines are poison needles to include cancer
    causing. Why would anyone want poison and cancer directly injected into their
    bodies.

    “Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food.” — Hippocrates, the
    father of medicine

  • 1984

    The next verse of that bible text you quote says the mother laid on the child and that was why the child died

  • Free People

    “If you consciously set out to bring a nation to its knees, to kill it, to disable it, to make it unable to function at any reasonable level, you would be hard pressed to find a more effective method than exposing the population to the US/European medical-drug cartel.” — Jon Rappoport, April 29, 2015, “Medical-drug destruction of life, by the numbers.”

    See in full, statistics, links, at http://www.nomorefakenews.com

    Vaccines are a drug = poison needles, worse, INJECTED directly into the body.

  • Justthefacts

    Ah, so you are a homeopath. That’s explains everything. To be a homeopath you have to be dedicated to belief without evidence. That is why you think it’s “confirmed” that vaccines cause SIDS when there is not a single study or thread of evidence to support it. the SIDS rate is the same in the vaccinated and unvaccinated population so you can’t even claim correlation much less causality.

    I never said a word about “allopathetic” (not a word) medicine but I did say that there is no evidence of vaccines causing SIDS and I will add that homeopathy is quackery and kills people but that is off topic.

  • Justthefacts

    I posted words from your own source so unless you where lying, I am not lying. I do believe that it was you who said that the FDA attributed SIDS to vaccines and we already established that you where wrong. The only person who is a confirmed liar here is you.

  • Justthefacts

    Did I touch a nerve? you are doing multiple replies to single posts and have descended from cut-and-paste to insults and ranting. You do know that is an act of on-line surrender, right?

  • Andrew Kasch

    Um…
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/8841347/Steve-Jobs-regretted-trying-to-beat-cancer-with-alternative-medicine-for-so-long.html

    You clearly have no understanding of cancer or how it works. Jobs is one of many people who could have extended his life had he not fallen for bogus homeopathic claims.

    You can tell yourself that your mother is the living proof of all-natural lifestyles. I have a grandfather who is a healthy 100 year old, who eats pork and drinks scotch, and follows modern medicine. It comes down to genetics in the end.

    The only person who has made a religion out of opposing medicine is you. You’ve indoctrinated yourself with so much bad information and anti-science, that you become willingly blind to any REAL scientific data, which you’ll blindly believe is all a big corporate conspiracy.

    I just hope people close to you don’t take your advice when they face a serious illness.

  • nworder

    No I am not a homeopath but I would choose it anyday to vaccination.

    Vaccination is why america has the highest rate of infant death in the developed world – it has the highest vaccination rate. You are a paid liar who will get his comeuppance one day.

    “This is exactly what has happened with the publication of a new study in the Journal of Pediatrics titled ,”Adverse Events following Haemophilus influenzae Type b Vaccines in the Vaccine Adverse Event ReportingSystem, 1990-2013,” wherein CDC and FDA researchers identify 749 deaths linked to the administration of the Hib vaccine, 51% of which were sudden infant death linked to the administration of Hib vaccine.

    The CDC has boldly denied that there is any evidence supporting a causal link between vaccines and infant death, despite the fact that their own webpage on the topic acknowledges that “From 2 to 4 months old, babies begin their primary course of vaccinations. This is also the peak age for sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS).” Written off as coincidence, the CDC suggests that stomach sleeping is the primary modifiable risk factor.

    Because SIDS is the 3rd leading cause of death in infants, and because the U.S. has one of thehighest infant mortality rates in the developed world, one would think that more progress would have been made toward understanding its causes. Perhaps, as explored in this past article, the signal of harm is being ignored. Neglect and suppression of available data has recently been exposed with the confession of a top CDC vaccine scientist who was compelled to covered up data revealing an autism-MMR link in African-American boys.”

  • Justthefacts

    This post of yours is not your words and was again cut and pasted from here:
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    http://www.healthy.net/Health/Article/SIDS_and_Seizures/892
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    This was written by Harris Coulter who we have already established to be a lunatic homeopath who thinks you can cure cancer with homeopathy. It criticizes the work done in this paper:
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    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3493477
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    This is an actual published study with results. Again , Coulter claims “data” from studies by Dr. Torch but it does not site any of them because they were never published and never done. All you need to do is post the Dr. Torch paper or the data from the study and I am wrong. Its just that simple. Go Google away and try to find that study by Torch and prove me wrong or you can accept the words in your very post that say it doesn’t exist
    The difference between me and you is that I know and have read the data. I am not a blind believer of a lunatic homeopath who cuts and pastes his lies as if they are a gospel. I think for myself and I have checked out every claim made by Harris Coulter and they are mostly unsupported lies. Looks at the website article yourself. Notice that Coulter fully sited the title and authors of the paper he doesn’t like but does not site a title or source for the “Study” he does like. His lies are self evident.

  • nworder

    THE PAYOUTS SAY IT ALL :-

    “Still think vaccines aren’t experimental? The FDA’s own website admits in a package insert from 2005 that TDap vaccines have not been reviewed for carcinogenic, or mutagenic results nor their ability to cause infertility. It also admits that TDap vaccinations can cause autism. Right…there..in…the…insert. But that isn’t the only harm a TDap vaccine can cause.

    TDap vaccines are also known as the Tetanus, Diphtheria, and Pertussis vaccinations. They can cause injury, and often do. You can look at a chart of actual vaccine injury cases here which shows compensation to individuals ranging from $90,000 to $61 million – one of the largest payouts was for none other than a TDap case which caused cerebral palsy, encephalopathy, seizures, and cognitive delays.

    TDap is also one of Big Pharma’s top 15 biggest selling vaccines. It is also one of the vaccines recommended to be given before the age of two. This means that a very small child is being subjected to a vaccine before its immune system even has a chance to completely develop. Researchers know that our immunity is developed, in part, while we are still a yolk sac, and not even an embryo but it continues development through our younger years. This is why teenagers and adults are sick less often than toddlers. Their bodies are still developing antibodies to attack antigens.”

    NATURAL SOCEITY

  • nworder

    FDA ADMITS SIDS but justthecrap cant see it

    (FDA admits 13 deaths- 7 SIDS cases in study):

    (Excerpt): “In the German case-control study and US open-label safety study in which 14,971 infants received Tripedia vaccine, 13 deaths in Tripedia vaccine recipients were reported. Causes of deaths included seven SIDS”

  • Justthefacts

    He was also 100% healthy AFTER the vaccinations. If not, why didn’t the mother take him to the doctor? Are you saying he was actually sick and the mother neglected to take him to the doctor deserving to have here daughter taken away? Which is it?
    How about you explain to me what killed him leaving no evidence of infection, inflammation or poisoning? what was the “action”? My logic is flawless because you can’t answer those questions.

  • Justthefacts

    You insulting ranters just don’t stop.

  • Justthefacts

    All hail the Pharma masters!!! And what about your homeopathic master?

  • Justthefacts

    No discussion, no data, no facts, just insults.
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    I accept your surrender.

  • nworder

    FDA HAS SIDS ON WARNING INSERT

    “EXTREME ADVERSE EVENTS (AUTISM & SIDS) REPORTED

    The smoking gun comes in the form of the Tripedia vaccine product insert dated December 2005. This places the insert four years on the timeline after being approved for a “thimerosal free” alternative.

    Keep in mind, no massive recall was made for the vaccines already containing thimerosal. The vaccines stayed on the shelves and were injected into your children. The reason you didn’t hear about any major recalls of the vaccines is because doing so would have jeopardized the public’s confidence in the entire vaccine program.

    With that, I’m going to suggest that this information may radically change the way you look at vaccines forever. Page 11 of the Tripedia product insert states:

    “Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS [Sudden Infant Death Syndrome], anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea.”[8] (emphasis mine)

    SIDS is most likely to occur between 2 and 4 months of age. [9] DTaP is given at 2,4, and 6 months. [6]

    Strange coincidence, is it not? “

  • nworder

    AMERICA IS CANCER DEATH NATION NO1 – IS THIS THE PROOF THAT YOUR MEDICINE WORKS.

    America is also infant death nation no 1 – due to the highest vaccination rate in the developed world .

    Stuff that in your lying mouth.

  • nworder

    WHY DOCTOR TORCH WAS SILENCED :-

    But the early 1980s were a turning-point in the official line. In that same year of 1982 matters came to a crisis when William C. Torch, M.D., Director of Child Neurology, Department of Pediatrics, University of Nevada School of Medicine, at the 34th Annual Meeting of the American Academy of Pediatrics, presented a study linking the DPT shot with SIDS. Torch concluded:

    “These data show that DPT vaccination may be a generally unrecognized major cause of sudden infant and early childhood death, and that the risks of immunization may outweigh its potential benefits. A need for reevaluation and possible modification of current vaccination procedures is indicated by this study.

    Torch’s report provoked an uproar in the American Academy of Pediatrics. At a hastily arranged press conference he was soundly chastised for using “anecdotal data,” meaning (will you believe it?) that he actually interviewed the families concerned! “

  • nworder

    THE VACCINE KILLED HIM AND MILLIONS OF OTHERS

    “Torch, W.S., 1982. Diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus (DPT) immunization: a potential cause of the Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). Neurology; 32(4): A169 abstract).

    “At the 34th Annual Meeting of the American Academy of Pediatrics, presented a study linking the DPT shot with SIDS. Torch concluded: “These data show that DPT vaccination may be a generally unrecognized major cause of sudden infant and early childhood death, and that the risks of immunization may outweigh its potential benefits. A need for reevaluation and possible modification of current vaccination procedures is indicated by this study.” –Harris Coulter “

  • Justthefacts

    You used the word ” allopathetic” and that is a homeopathic term making you a homeopath. Look it up.
    This post is a cut and paste from here:
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    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/cdcs-own-data-vaccine-infant-death-link
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    Greenmedinfo is the craziest of the crazies. They promote homeopathy to cure Ebola. Let me repeat that GREENMEDINFO PROMOTES HOMEOPATHY TO TREAT EBOLA. What a hoot!
    Better yet, this website sets you up to look like a fool. Did you bother to go to the paper sited and read it? I am going to say the answer is no because this is the conclusion from the paper YOU sited:
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    “CONCLUSION: Review of VAERS reports did not identify any new or unexpected safety concerns for Hib vaccines.”
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    I should wonder why you post data to support MY argument but the reason is clear. You are not thinking for yourself and you are just blindly posting the lies of other loons.
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    So thanks for supporting my argument.

    .

  • nworder

    POLIO VACCINE CAUSES MASSIVE OUTBREAKS OF POLIO :-

    1956 Idaho health director Peterson states that polio only struck vaccinated children in areas where there had been no cases of polio since the preceeding autumn. In 90% of the cases, the paralysis occurred in the arm in which the vaccine had been injected.

    1956 American Public Health Service announces 168 cases of polio and 6 deaths among those vaccinated. Censorship is then imposed on the reporting of reactions to Salk vaccine.

    1956 The National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis conducts its annual “March of Dimes” campaign, milking the public of $47 million.

    1958 Verdict of $147,000 rendered against Cutter Laboratories in Calfornia for the crippling of two children with the Salk polio vaccine. Cutter Labs was the only vaccine manufacturer not part of the Rockefeller Trust.

    1959 National Institute of Health (NIH) approves licensing of Quadrigen vaccine for children, containing Pertussis, Diptheria, Tetanus and Polio vaccines. The new combination vaccine was found to be highly reactive and was withdrawn from the market in 1968 after parents started filing lawsuits against Parke- Davis for vaccine damaged children.

    1957 Scientists isolate a series of Simian (monkey) viruses and discover that these same viruses contaminate polio vaccines. SV-40 found in both Sabin and Salk polio vaccines. ( made since early ’50s), Information not made public. The same vaccines continued to be used until the early 1960’s.

    1957 The Ditchley Foundation is founded by Sir Philip Adams near Oxford. The Ditchley Foundation is a conduit for classified instructions from the Tavistock Institute.

    1976 Dr. Jonas Salk, creator of the polio vaccine, says that analysis indicates that the live virus vaccine in use since the 1960’s is the principle, if not sole cause of all polio cases since 1961.

  • nworder

    Never been ill myself unlike most americans who are vaccinated and drugged to death.

    WHO WOULD INJECT THE FOLLOWING FILTH INTO THEIR BODIES .

    “Polio Virus Acts Like a Catalyst

    Another interesting fact is that strains of the polio virus have the ability to spontaneously recombine with themselves and create a new strain.
    In an article published in Virology in 1993 (Vol 196, p199), it was revealed that “the administration of oral OPV creates favorable conditions for recombination by simultaneous infection of cells with viruses of different genotypes. It may be easily imagined that polio virus or other enteroviruses might encounter different enteroviruses multiplying simultanously in the gut of the same child, contributing thus to the natural evolution of these RNA viruses” And, Dr. Urnovitrz adds, contributes to the general resistance to the vaccine.

    Original Salk Vaccine Not “Inactivated” As FDA Claimed to the Public

    Reviewing a published report in the American Journal of Hygiene (Vol 68, pp 31-44) from 1958, Dr. Urnovitz told the Houston audience that up to 26 monkey viruses including the simian counterpart of human adenoviruses, coxsackie, echo, herpes (HHV6,7,8), Epstein-Barr, and cytomegalovirus may have been in the original Salk vaccines.

    Also, in a paper published in 1976 in the Journal of Epidemiology entitled “Human Exposure to SV-40”, it was revealed that two of the original Salk vaccine lots that were tested in 1958 were found to have 1,000 infectious SV-40 units per milliliter of vaccine. In other words, the virus was contaminated with at least one identifiable live monkey CANCER VIRUS called SV-40. Children were dying of brain cancers after receiving the vaccine and SV-40 virus was cultured out of their brain tissue.
    Soon after the discovery that the vaccine was contaminated with SV-40 in 1958 (and they didn’t inform the public, constituting criminal negligence), the vaccine manufacturers “said” they began to screen monkeys used to prepare the vaccine for SV-40, but by then 98 million Americans had already been injected with the contaminated vaccines.”

  • Justthefacts

    This post is cut and pasted from here and is off topic:
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    http://naturalsociety.com/tdap-vaccine-linked-sids-autism-admittance-fda-makers-vaccine/
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    How about you actually write your own post for once?
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    Yes, vaccines cause injury. Not a single word in your post or on that website mentions “SIDS”. You thought it supported your argument but you didn’t even read what you cut-and-paste posted. How desperate are you to be right?

  • nworder

    POLIO AND CANCER CAUSED BY POLIO VACCINE :-

    “Dr. Jonas Salk , creator of the polio vaccine, says that analysis indicates that the live virus vaccine in use since the 1960’s is the principle, if not sole cause of all polio cases since 1961.”Polio was pretty obscure before the twentieth century. There’d been some outbreaks in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, and most victims had been under the age of four”.

    Note that these polio epidemics in earlier centuries ended on their own without the Salk and Sabin Vaccines http://www.uh.edu/admin/engines/epi1527.htm

  • nworder

    Heh Heh – you are a desperate bullsh……..er.

    Even when you are defeated by every non troll you think you have scored a point – personally I think your masters should sack you as an unconvincing troll.

    You would have more chance of surviving the CDC created ebola with the wing of a bat than with the medical mafia.

    “The Salk and Sabin Vaccines caused:

    Polio: 33,300 total cases of polio and 33 cases of paralytic polio in 1950 led to 9 deaths, but AFTER the Salk Vaccine had been widely implemented in 1960, paralytic polio cases increased 80 fold to 2,525 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus_93.pdf

    Cancer: “98 million Americans were also contaminated with monkey viruses [i.e., SV40 from the Salk and Sabin Vaccines] and may be one reason why there has been an explosion of cancer, new infectious agents and other new immune and neurological disorders among the baby boomers born between 1941 and 1961”.

    AIDS: “The transfer of monkey viruses to man via vaccines is particularly relevant to AIDS since the causative agent HIV, is thought to be derived from a simian precursor virus” [read: the SV40 virus transferred from monkeys to humans with both the Salk and Sabin Vaccines KILLED 21.8 million people]

    Hepatitis B: “the reason hepatitis B is endemic in [Asia and Africa] is because of another vaccination program gone bad — the polio vaccine. These polio viruses are cultured in monkey kidneys, and they didn’t realize there was this cancer-causing virus in it– which we’re all carrying around — and they are finding in cancers now”.

  • Justthefacts

    You post on evidence. This cut-and-pasted does not tie back to a source I will help you with that bay including the whole quote, including the part you excluded:
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    “In the German case-control study and US open-label safety study in which 14,971 infants received Tripedia vaccine, 13 deaths in Tripedia vaccine recipients were reported. Causes of deaths included seven SIDS, and one of each of the following: enteritis, Leigh Syndrome, adrenogenital syndrome, cardiac arrest, motor vehicle accident, and accidental drowning.”
    .
    You quoted that out of context because the author was pointing out the SIDS as “another” cause of death not associated with vaccines any more than a car accident.
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    Can’t you see how your websites lie to you?

  • nworder

    SIDS CAUSED BY VACCINES :-

    “Walker AM, et al (1987). Diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis immunization and sudden infant death syndrome. Am J Public Health. 1987 Aug;77(8):945-51. PMID: 3496805; UI: 87268250.

    We compared the recency of diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis (DTP) immunization in healthy children with birthweights greater than 2500 gms who died of sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) to that of age-matched reference children, using a modified case-control analysis.

    Focusing on very narrow time intervals following immunization, we found the SIDS mortality rate in the period zero to three days following DTP to be 7.3 times that in the period beginning 30 days after immunization (95 per cent confidence interval, 1.7 to 31).

    “This study supports a link between the DPT shot and “sudden infant death syndrome.”
    The authors examined the records of all children born in the Group Health Cooperative of Puget Sound between 1972 and 1983 to see how many had died of SIDS. Total births recorded during this period were 35,581, but of them only 26,500 were eligible for the study.
    Not all deaths of infants during this period were considered to be SIDS. “All deaths which on the basis of death certificate diagnosis, hospital discharge data, and pharmacy use taken together could be clearly ascribed to causes not related to immunization were excluded.” Ultimately, “SIDS was defined as any death for which no cause could be discerned among infants of normal birthweight and without predisposing medical conditions.”
    But, despite these exclusions and restrictions, the authors found “the SIDS mortality rate in the period 0-3 days following a DPT shot to be 7.3 times that in the period beginning 30 days after immunization.”

    They called the results of this study “worrisome” but consoled themselves with the thought that “only a small proportion of SIDS cases in infants with birthweights greater than 2500 grams could be associated with DPT.” A particular criticism to be made of this study is that children with “predisposing medical conditions” were excluded and their deaths were not considered to be SIDS, whereas in actuality children with “predisposing medical conditions” are routinely vaccinated.”–Harris Coulter “

  • Justthefacts

    This cut-and paste is from here:
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    http://vactruth.com/2012/09/18/fda-vaccine-autism-sids/
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    I noticed you didn’t include the part where they say that none of the published package inserts mention SIDS. The only coincidence is that you posted false information again.

  • Justthefacts

    Again, you post about Torch but post NO information on his paper or data because he never published anything. How about you FIND this paper or data and post that instead of the lies?

  • nworder

    SIDS AFTER VACCINES IS CAUSED BY CAR ACCIDENTS ????

    NOW WE ARE GETTING DESPERATE – NO TROLL PIECES OF SILVER FOR YOU :-

    “”A critical point which is never mentioned by those advocating mass vaccination is that children’s health has declined significantly since 1960 when vaccines began to be widely used.

    According to the National Health Interview Survey conducted annually…a shocking 31% of US children today have chronic health problems… In my medical career, I’ve treated vaccinated and unvaccinated children, and the unvaccinated were far healthier and more robust. Allergies, asthma, and behavioral and attention disturbances were clearly more common in my young patients who were vaccinated.”
    Philip Incao MD, Testimony on the Hepatitis Vaccine, Ohio 3/1/99 “

  • Andrew Kasch

    America isn’t Number 1. Denmark has the biggest cancer rate. And America doesn’t even crack the Top 100 in infant mortality rates:
    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html

    And cancer is the result of environment, bad genetics and poor nutrition, not medicine. If you blame vaccines for causing cancer and not things like genetic history or processed foods, you’re certifiably nuts.

  • nworder

    SIDS WARNING ON VACCINE INSERT !

    “I was astonished to discover that Autism and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) are listed as ‘adverse events reported during post-approval use.’ ‘Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting.’

    The CDC, the FDA, Paul Offit and every public health flunky swear up and down the aisle that vaccines are perfectly safe and don’t cause autism or SIDS.

    Yet those conditions are listed on the DTaP package insert with the statement that they are included because such vaccine adverse reactions are serious and frequent.

    At the same time the vaccine establishment is making a full court press with news stories everywhere to convince the public that vaccines are totally safe and it is our moral obligation to accept them, you find this evidence of harm.
    The defenders of vaccines are so far down the road of denial and dishonesty that they are incapable or unwilling to acknowledge the fact prominently displayed on the DTaP package insert:Autism and sudden infant death are associated with vaccination. This is a powerful indictment of the CDC, vaccine manufacturers and medical talking heads like Offit.

  • nworder

    U.S. INFANT MORTALITY RATES

    “The United States is the most developed country in the world with all kinds of money for medical research and advanced medical technology. How is their infant mortality? Before mass vaccination started (in 1955 with the polio vaccine), United States had the sixth best infant mortality in the world. By 1990, they were on the twentieth place. Only a year later they were on the twenty-fourthplace. Today, maybe thirtieth place. And most of these deaths are vaccine deaths. So you can camouflage all sorts of things, but you can’t lie about infant deaths.”

    “Viera Scheibner is a retired principal research scientist with a doctorate in natural sciences. During her distinguished career, she has published three books and 90 scientific papers in prestigious scientific journals.
    Since the mid-80’s, she has done extensive research into vaccines and vaccinations. Her first research was in the area of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). She wasn’t even studying vaccinations, but she stumbled onto a relationship between SIDS and vaccinations that lead to a very deep study into vaccination literature in medical journals.
    In 1983, she published her book on the results of her research Vaccination: The Medical Assault on the Immune System. She often provides expert reports for court cases involving immunizations and vaccine-damaged individuals throughout the world.”

  • Justthefacts

    Another quote from the lunatic homeopath who thinks he can cure cancer with homeopath. If you are curious. here is a listing of all three of torches papers:
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    Torch, WS. Diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus (DPT) immunization: a potential cause of the sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). Neurology 1982; 32(4):A169 (abstract).
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    Torch WC. Diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus (DPT) immunization may be an unrecognized cause of sudden infant death (SIDS) and near-miss syndrome (NMS): 12 case reports. Neurology 1986 b (suppl 1); 36:149 (abstract).
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    Torch WC. Characteristics of diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus (DPT) postvaccinal deaths and DPT-caused sudden infant deaths syndrome (SIDS): a review. Neurology 1986 a (suppl 1); 36:148 (abstract).
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    None of these papers confirm any link between SIDS and vaccines. Read them for yourself.

  • Justthefacts

    Cut-and paste you gish gallop all you want but it can cover you lies. None of your reference have anything to do with SIDS. You are now just desperately posting anything on vaccines in order to fight cognitive dissonance.

  • nworder

    AMERICA TOPS THE INFANT MORTALITY RATE

    Washington post :-

    “The United States has a higher infant mortality rate than any of the other 27 wealthy countries, according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control.
    A baby born in the U.S. is nearly three times as likely to die during her first year of life as one born in Finland or Japan. That same American baby is about twice as likely to die in her first year as a Spanish or Korean one.

    Despite healthcare spending levels that are significantly higher than any other country in the world, a baby born in the U.S. is less likely to see his first birthday than one born in Hungary, Poland or Slovakia. Or in Belarus.Or in Cuba, for that matter.”

  • Justthefacts

    Gish galloping cut-and pasting a desperate attempt to no be wrong. Again, no reference to SIDS. You are running off into the blue in very loud desperation.

  • Justthefacts

    Again, not a word tying SIDS to vaccines. Do you think you can win just by gish gallop posting?

  • nworder

    SIDS – REAL PEOPLE NOT CDC LIES

    Mother Shares Her Story

    His mother Amanda Copenhaver, who works in healthcare, shares with us,

    “On Friday morning July 12, 2013 I took my son in for his 4 month well-baby checkup. The doctor gave him 7 vaccines – DTaP, IPV, Hib, PCV and Rota. He was cranky of course after, but doctors tell you to give Tylenol and teach you that these reactions are normal.

    Saturday, he was still fussy and tired and didn’t nurse as much as usual. Saturday night, my sister in law watched him overnight so we could go to work. I picked him up Sunday afternoon, after I woke up. We didn’t do much that evening but nap. Looking back it seems that he was extra sleepy but I didn’t notice it then.

    Sunday night, I dropped him off at a very close friend’s house around 10pm, so that I could go to work. Not knowing that this was the last time I’d see my son alive.

    I sent pumped milk with him once I started going back to work, since he was 12 weeks old. He was used to being fed at the breast to fall asleep when he was with me. My friend said he never went to bed without a fight with her, but that night she said, he fell asleep on his own.

    She said he woke in the middle of the night so she got up with him. She fell asleep in the recliner holding him. When she woke up, he was gone.

    They started CPR, but of course it was no help….”

  • Andrew Kasch

    From the same article you just posted…

    “Extremely preterm births recorded in some places may be considered
    a miscarriage or still birth in other countries. Since survival before
    22 weeks or under 500 grams is very rare, categorizing these births as
    live births will inflate reported infant mortality rates (which are
    reported as a share of live births).” Oster and her colleagues
    found that this reporting difference accounts for up to 40 percent of
    the U.S. infant mortality disadvantage relative to Austria and Finland.

  • Free People

    Nope. The religion of Allopathetic Medicine is pure quackery. Repeat: allopathetic kills – REAL medicine cures.

    Updated statistics on killer allopathetic protocol. We have arrived. Wake the flock up!

    http://www.infowars.com/medical-drug-destruction-of-life-by-the-numbers/

  • Justthefacts

    You are hilarious. Thank again for posting a paper that support my argument. it is here:
    .
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1511439/
    .
    The last line in the abstract:
    “CONCLUSIONS–Immunisation does not increase the risk of SIDS and may even lower the risk.”
    Thanks again for not reading your sources.

  • Justthefacts

    You posted the quote concerning car accidents, not me. You are the one making crazy claims from crazy websites.
    Again, not a word concerning SIDS and vaccinations.

  • nworder

    SIDS DECLINES WHEN VACCINATION DECLINES

    (e) AUSTRALIA Health authorities must reveal the vaccination status of children in epidemics. In the last 18 months, 84% of Australian children who got whooping cough were fully vaccinated, and 78% who got measles had record of measles vaccination. So where is the effectiveness of the vaccines?

    (f) BRITISH INFANT MORTALITY RATES A British study dealt with infant deaths four weeks after birth. They don’t mention vaccination at all. Between 1975 to 1977 in England, when the vaccination compliance fell to between 10% and 30%, the infant mortality went down. But people have short memories. The vaccination compliance started climbing up after 1977 and so did the infant mortality rate.

    YOUR FAVOURITE GUY – WILLIAM TORCH -LOL
    (g) In Neurology, 1982, William C. Torch, pediatric neurologist, published “Diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus (DPT) immunization: a potential cause of the Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS)”. Torch looked at over 200 randomly selected SIDS cases, and in the preliminary data, on the first 70 cases studied, showed that two-thirds had been vaccinated within three weeks of death. He also established that there were ever increasing numbers of deaths with the increasing interval from the injection.

    (h) SWEDEN There was a normal worldwide epidemic of whooping cough (pertussis), in which of the Swedish children who got whooping cough, 84% were vaccinated, so the government read the statistics correctly and discontinued whooping cough vaccination.
    A ten-year follow up of the incidence of whooping cough in the unvaccinated children showed no incidence of whooping cough below the age of six months when the whooping cough is supposed to be dangerous, and actually very little below the age of two years. That is the vulnerable age group. So Swedes achieved, with no vaccination, what the Americans could not achieve with mandatory vaccination.

    (i) In the Journal of Infectious Diseases, 1994, “Age Specific Incidence of Bacteriologically Confirmed Pertussis, between 1981 and 1991 – ten year follow-up”. The majority of cases occurred in the most vulnerable age group below the age of one year in the most vaccinated children. Actually the majority of cases happened within the first four months. The vaccine is causing whooping cough. A lot of children develop whooping cough from the vaccine, but if they are vaccinated, it will be diagnosed as ‘croup’. “

  • Justthefacts

    Not a word tying SIDS to vaccinations. You are desperate.

  • Justthefacts

    This is a complete lie. SIDS is not mentioned on any package insert. Read them yourself. Here are all of them
    http://www.immunize.org/packageinserts/

  • nworder

    VACCINE INSERTS SAY SIDS IS CAUSED BY VACCINES
    JUSTTHECRAP – read the frigging insert

    “Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea.

    Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting.“ [emphasis added] It makes you wonder: How many doctors administering these vaccines have actually taken the time to read the insert? | Source: http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2014/04/fda-reveals-shocking-statements-on-vaccines.html

  • Justthefacts

    Viera Scheibner is not a doctor or medical researcher. she has published a paper one on the subject. She wrote books and In 1997, the Australian Skeptics awarded her the “Bent Spoon Award”. This award is presented annually to the Australian “perpetrator of the most preposterous piece of pseudoscientific piffle”:

    “The unanimous choice of the judges was Dr Viera Scheibner for her high profile anti-immunisation campaign which, by promoting new age and conspiracy mythology and by owing little to scientific methodologies or research, poses a serious threat to the health of Australian children.”

  • nworder

    SIDS SIDS SIDS SIDS SIDS SIDS AGAIN :-

    In stark contrast to these statements the study uncovered the following highly concerning results:

    “VAERS received 29,747 reports after Hib vaccines; 5179 (17%) were serious, including 896 reports of deaths. Median age was 6 months (range 0-10.22 months).

    Sudden infant death syndrome SIDS SIDS SIDS was the stated cause of death in 384 (51%) of 749 death reports with autopsy/death certificate records. The most common nondeath serious AE categories were neurologic (80; 37%), other noninfectious (46; 22%) (comprising mainly constitutional signs and symptoms); and gastrointestinal (39; 18%) conditions. No new safety concerns were identified after clinical review of reports of AEs that exceeded the data mining statistical threshold.

    Consider also that VAERS is a passive surveillance system, which suffers from profound underreporting. According to the VAERS site’s own disclaimer:

    “Underreporting” is one of the main limitations of passive surveillance systems, including VAERS. The term, underreporting refers to the fact that VAERS receives reports for only a small fraction of actual adverse events. The degree of underreporting varies widely. As an example, a great many of the millions of vaccinations administered each year by injection cause soreness, but relatively few of these episodes lead to a VAERS report. “

  • Justthefacts

    The cause of death was not attributed to vaccines at all. There is no entry in the VAERS database for this case and there is no Vaccine court case for this death. This has not be reported anywhere. This is a fraud. check it for yourself.
    https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/data

    http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/aggregator/sources/7

  • nworder

    NO MATTER HOW YOU TWIST IT – ALL NATIONS HAVE SIMILAR PROBLEMS.

    AMERICA IS THE WORST FOR INFANT DEATH AND FIRST DAY BAY DEATHS – DUE TO HEP B

    Washington post :-

    “The U.S. rate of 6.1 infant deaths per 1,000 live births masks considerable state-level variation. If Alabama were a country, its rate of 8.7 infant deaths per 1,000 would place it slightly behind Lebanon in the world rankings. Mississippi, with its 9.6 deaths, would be somewhere between Botswana and Bahrain.

    We’re the wealthiest nation in the world. How did we end up like this? ”

    VACCINATION OF COURSE !!!!!

  • Justthefacts

    Outright lies. None of the three papers by Torch found a link between vaccines and SIDS. the rest of you post doesn’t even concern SIDS.
    Gish gallop all you want. its easy to see through it.

  • nworder

    MORE VACCINATIONS EQUALS MORE SIDS :-

    “U.S. Infant Mortality Rate High

    According to the most recent National Vital Statistics Report, more than 26,000 American babies born alive in 2009 died before their first birthday, which gives the U.S. a very high infant mortality rate of 6 infant deaths per 1,000 live births.6 In 1960, America ranked 12th in infant mortality among all nations of the world. In 2005, we had fallen to number 30.
    Today in America, there are more premature babies than ever before and more full term babies die before their first birthday than in most European countries.7

    Some people argue that not every country calculates their infant mortality statistics the same way, which artificially inflates the poor ranking for the U.S.8 Even if adjustments would boost the U.S. ranking up several notches, there can be no question that a nation, which spends more per capita on healthcare 9 and legally requires their children to get more vaccines than any other country, should have one of the best – not one of the worst – infant mortality rates, especially for healthy babies born full term.

    New Study: More Vaccines = Higher Infant Mortality Rate

    Now there is a new study published in a peer reviewed medical journal that NVIC has helped to make publicly accessible to everyone, which reveals that developed nations with poor infant mortality rates, like the U.S., tend to give their infants more doses of vaccines before age one.10 The study’s authors found “a high statistically significant correlation between increasing numbers of vaccine doses and increasing infant mortality rates.”
    To put this into perspective, doctors give American babies 26 doses of vaccines before age one, which is twice as many vaccinations as babies in Sweden and Japan get.

    Is it really just a “coincidence” that the infant mortality rate is twice as high in America compared to Sweden and Japan, where half as many vaccinations are given to very young babies?

  • Justthefacts

    It also said this on the same page (page 11):

    ” The rate of SIDS observed in the US open-label safety study was 0.8/1,000 vaccinated infants and the reported rate of SIDS in the US from 1985-1991 was 1.5/1,000 live births.34 By chance alone, some cases of SIDS can be expected to follow receipt of whole-cell pertussis DTP35 or DTaP vaccines.”
    So it clearly show that vaccines LOWER the rate of SIDS. Notice the words “By chance alone”

  • nworder

    AMERICA TOPS THE LIST IN INFANT DEATH RATES

    The US has by far the highest first-day death rate in the industrialized world. The report states, “An estimated 11,300 newborn babies die each year in the United States on the day they are born.
    This is 50 percent more first-day deaths than all other industrialized countries combined.” The 33 other industrialized countries for which data was collected recorded a combined total of 7,500 first-day deaths each year.

    The report, done in conjunction with the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, is the first global analysis of newborn day-of-death data. Its findings are an indictment of social inequality created by the capitalist system worldwide.
    Because the report analyzes 2011 statistics, it is likely that the ensuing year and a half have seen a worsening of these indices.

    Within wealthy countries, a widening section of the working class are subject to poor living standards and extreme disparities in health care. Millions of Americans as a result fare little better—and in some aspects worse—than their counterparts in some of the poorest countries in the world.

    Some US counties, clustered in the deep south, Indian reservations, and in Appalachia, as well as distressed urban centers such as Detroit and Cleveland, have mortality rates equivalent to those in “developing” countries, where 98 percent of all first-day deaths occur. “

  • nworder

    THEY KNOW THATS WHY ITS ON THE INSERT – dumbo.

    “In Japan they stopped vaccinating babies under the age of 2 and they stopped having babies die of SIDS. I firmly believe the two are linked together.

    I don’t think it is a coincidence that many babies pass away after having shots. Shots contain toxic chemicals and mercury and it is too much more some babies to handle.
    Their bodies do not have the immune system and their livers cannot filter these toxins. Many people are starting to stagger or holding off an vaccinations. I was always worried about SIDS and I held my baby everytime she slept.
    My heart goes out to all parents who lost a child, sincerely. ”
    Read more: http://www.healthboards.com/boards/sudden-infant-death-syndrome-sids/563508-does-anyone-have-un-vaccinated-baby-who-died-sids.html#ixzz3Yj0A0ikS

  • Andrew Kasch

    And you’ve arrived at that conclusion based on paranoia and no real scientific data whatsoever.

  • nworder

    YOU ARE THE PAID LIAR – your lies are so stupid you drop yourself right in “it”

    Package Insert From FDA

    Diphtheria Toxoids and Pertussis Vaccine Tripedia®

    Page 11

    ‘Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism,convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting.’

  • nworder

    YOU DONT WANT A DOCTOR JUST AN INTELLIGENT TRAINED RESEARCHER WILL DO – I mean who do you think you are – an unemployable who picked up a trolling job since most normal humans would not touch your job with a bargepole.

    INSERT – did you know that the death of an infant IS
    SIDS – or do you qualify as the worst of all troll liars.

    ADVERSE REACTIONS
    BODY SYSTEM AS A WHOLE

    Adverse reactions may be local and include redness, warmth, edema, induration, with or without tenderness, as well as
    urticaria, and rash. Malaise, transient fever, pain, hypotension, nausea and arthralgia may develop in some patients after the
    injection. Arthus-type hypersensitivity reactions, characterized by severe local reactions (generally starting 2 to 8 hours after an
    injection) may occur, particularly in persons who have received multiple prior boosters.2
    Rarely, an anaphylactic reaction (ie, hives, swelling of the mouth, difficulty breathing, hypotension, or shock) and DEATH have
    been reported after receiving preparations containing diphtheria and tetanus antigens.2
    The vaccine was well tolerated clinically. No local or systemic reactions were observed in approximately half of the infants and

  • Justthefacts

    Anyone can post data to VAERS and say anything unedited. Like you. people can make up causes of death. An autism activist named Jim Laidler once reported to VAERS that a vaccine had turned him into The Incredible Hulk.
    .
    A 2006 article in Pediatrics found that most VAERS reports related to thimerosal, and many related to autism, were filed in connection with litigation, leading the authors to caution that inappropriate reliance on VAERS data may be a source of bias.[5] The study’s lead author stated: “Lawyers are manipulating this system to show increases [in vaccine-related adverse events] that are based on litigation, not health research.
    .
    So if the VAERS Database is solid evidence of vaccine induced SIDS, then Vaccines also cause The Incredible Hulk.

  • nworder

    TORCH FOUND THE LINK BUT HE HAD TO BE SILENCED LIKE DR WAKEFIELD.

    You are paid to say there is no link – like a holocaust denier.

    Sids means the death of an infant – are you aware of this ?

    LOWER VACCINATIONS MEANS LOWER INFANT DEATHS :-

    “So, is any of this more than just theory?

    Between the years of 1970 and 1974 in Japan, there were 37 infant deaths directly after vaccination. Because of this, a group of doctors decided to boycott vaccines and vaccination was stopped altogether for two months.
    After that two months, the vaccination starting age was lifted to 2 years old, meaning that no child received a vaccine until after their 2nd birthday. Japan jumped from 17th place in child mortality to the lowest child mortality in the world. SIDS had disappeared. ”

    In 1988 the vaccination age was lowered to 3 months old, and the SIDS rate rose again.

    Cherry et al (1988), Pediatrics 81:6 Part 11 (June 1988) Supplement pp 936-984, said he found this to be ‘instructive’, suggesting a link between the Japanese vaccination schedule and SIDS.
    Interestingly, Noble et al. (1987) who spent some 2 weeks in Japan studying the acellular whooping vaccine there, wrote: “It is difficult to exclude pertussis vaccines as a causal factor even when other etiologies are suggested, particularly when the adverse events occur in close temporal association with vaccination”.

    The same thing has happened in other countries when vaccination is stopped or delayed.

    For instance, in the UK in 1975 and 1976, there was publicity about the whooping cough vaccine causing brain damage, so the vaccination rate fell to only 30%, and only 10% in some areas. In line with this, the infant mortality rate also fell.
    By 1977, the controversy was starting to simmer down so vaccination rates began to climb up. And yes, you’ve guessed right, the infant mortality rate increased.

    McFarlane (1982) wrote:

    “The postneonatal mortality fell markedly in 1976, the year in which a sharp decline in perinatal mortality rate began. Between 1976 and 1979, however, neither the late nor the postneonatal mortality rates fell any further. Indeed, the postneonatal mortality rate increased ,slightly among babies born in 1977.’

    This correlates exactly with the rise and fall of vaccination levels.

    Fine and Clarkson (1982) wrote “…it is surprising that the interepidemic period did not decrease after the 1974 fall in vaccine uptake.”
    They were expecting unvaccinated children to come down with whooping cough in large numbers. Instead, they had the lowest ever recorded number of whooping cough hospitalisations and deaths.

  • Justthefacts

    More claims, no evidence. There is no study showing a link between SIDS and vaccines. If you have the study, stop gish galloping, cut and pastes and POST IT. You have no source for your claims.

  • Justthefacts

    Your links states this:
    .
    “There is no scientific evidence that the two are related and I don’t anticipate and connection in the future.”

    You link support my argument……..again.

  • nworder

    HUFFINGTON POST – AMERICA NOW 68TH !!!!!! ON THE DEATH LIST – I WONDER IF IT IS BECAUSE OF THE HIGHEST VACCINATION RATE – EH.

    AND they spend more on most countries put together !

    By: Rachael Rettner, MyHealthNewsDaily Senior Writer
    Published: 05/07/2013 03:52 PM EDT on MyHealthNewsDaily

    The United States does not fare well in a new report looking at the percentage of babies that die the day they are born.

    In that report, the United States falls behind 68 other countries, including Mexico, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, in terms of its rate of deaths on the first day of life.
    Yearly, about 11,300 U.S. babies die the day they’re born, according to the report from the charity organization Save the Children.”

  • Justthefacts

    No one word tying vaccines to SIDS. Not one. Its sad but it has nothing to do with vaccines.

  • Justthefacts

    And on that very same page 11 it states:

    “The rate of SIDS observed in the US open-label safety study was 0.8/1,000 vaccinated infants and the reported rate of SIDS in the US from 1985-1991 was 1.5/1,000 live births. By chance alone, some cases of SIDS can be expected to follow receipt of whole-cell pertussis DTP
    or DTaP vaccines.”
    The insert clearly states the relationship is “by chance alone”. Thanks again for supporting my argument.

  • Justthefacts

    But as it applies to SIDS, the inset states:

    “The rate of SIDS observed in the US open-label safety study was 0.8/1,000 vaccinated infants and the reported rate of SIDS in the US from 1985-1991 was 1.5/1,000 live births. By chance alone, some cases of SIDS can be expected to follow receipt of whole-cell pertussis DTP or DTaP vaccines.”
    “By chance alone” – you are wrong about SIDS.

  • nworder

    DAMAGE WILL BE VASTLY UNDER REPORTED AS ALL DOCTORS ADMIT.

    So you make up a story about the hulk to discredit families who have lost infants to vaccination – you are incredibly sick – how do you get to sleep at night ?

    “Medical Research Into Vaccines and SIDS

    A study in Pediatr Infect Dis. 1983 Jan-Feb;2(1):7-11. PMID: 6835859; UI: 83169234, was to determine whether or not DPT caused SIDS. They contacted the parents of 145 SIDS victims who died in LA between January 1979 and August 1980. Of these, 53 babies had had DPT vaccination. Of those 53, 27 had been given a DPT shot within 28 days of death, 17 deaths occured within 1 week of the vaccination and 6 deaths within 24 hours. This was significantly more than expected and points to a temporal relationship between DPT and SIDS.

    In addition to this there were also 46 babies who died who didn’t have DPT but had visited a clinic before they died (possibly for other vaccines?). 40 of them died within 28 days of the visit, 22 a week after the visit and seven on the third day after the visit.

    However, the researchers refused to have a control group (i.e. babies who died of SIDS who had recieved NO vaccines), because they said
    ‘There should be no temporal association between DPT immunization and SIDS.’

    So they were never able to get a truly accurate picture, as is the case with all vaccine ‘science’.
    YOUR FAVORITE TORCH WHO YOU ARE CONVINCED DOES NOT EXIST OR DO ANY WORK :-

    Other studies include:

    Torch, W.S., 1982. Diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus (DPT) immunization: a potential cause of the Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). Neurology; 32(4): A169 abstract).

    Torch, W.C., 1986 a. Characteristics of diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus (DPT) postvaccinal deaths and DPT-caused Sudden Infant Deaths Syndrome (SIDS): a review. Neurology (suppl 1); 36: 148 (abstract).

    Torch, W.C., 1986 b. Diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus (DPT) imunization may be an unrecognized cause of Sudden Infant Death (SIDS) and Near-Miss Syndrome (NMS): 12 case reports. Neurology (suppl 1); 36: 149 (abstract).

  • nworder

    WHY IS SIDS ON THE INSERTS YOU DENIER

    How Would Vaccines Cause SIDS?
    All of the ingredients in vaccinations are poisons and information on them can be found at a poison’s unit or environmental health and safety.

    When they are contained in other products, we hear how dangerous they are to our health, for instance, glycol in paint has been attributed to male infertility, yet this is in vaccines.
    Mercury was banned from the fillings of pregnant women because of it’s danger, formaldehyde is a known trigger of throat cancer and everyone knows that aluminium can make you lose your memory.

    If you took a single ingredient like this and put it into a baby, I guarantee you’d have at least one baby who would die as a result.

    With vaccines, their tiny little bodies also have to cope with simultaneous viruses and bacteria, which would never happen in nature, and if you consider that at birth a baby doesn’t really have his own immune system.
    He is protected by placental antibodies and his mother’s milk. A child’s immune system is not fully developed until the age of 6 years.
    Just like tiny babies who are at greater risk of dying of the natural diseases, some babies cannot cope with the vaccine toxins and just like with any poisoning death, it doesn’t always happen instantly. The body’s vital organs can shut down over time.

  • Justthefacts

    More cut-an paste gish galloping that is wrong:
    .
    Wakefield had his licensed pulled for fraud.
    .
    I listed the three Torch papers before and they have no evidence of a vaccine SIDS connection. That is a simple fact. Read them yourself.
    .
    The infant mortally rate is JAPAN is explained in this paper and it has nothing to do with vaccines:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8295019
    .
    You have no reference for your UK claims. “McFarlane” who? Where? What paper?
    .
    Fine and Clarkson (1982) were discredited by this paper:
    http://www4.ncsu.edu/~allloyd/pdf_files/tpb_01.pdf
    You see, gish galloping is not needed if you are telling facts and the truth.

  • Justthefacts

    You always leave off the end of the abstract because it doesn’t support your argument. here is the end of THAT VERY PAPER:
    “These data suggest a temporal association”
    No conclusion, and statistically not relevant.
    I am the one that posted those three papers by Torch and I READ THEM. They establish no link between vaccines and SIDS. That is a lie perpetuated by your websites.
    Again, READ THEM YOURSELF.

  • Justthefacts

    And this is also on that insert for the third time:
    ” The rate of SIDS observed in the US open-label safety study was 0.8/1,000 vaccinated infants and the reported rate of SIDS in the US from 1985-1991 was 1.5/1,000 live births. By chance alone, some cases of SIDS can be expected to follow receipt of whole-cell pertussis DTP or DTaP vaccines.”
    BY CHANCE ALONE. The insert event states that there is no link between vaccines and SIDS.

  • nworder

    SIDS DOES HAPPEN :-

    Dr. David Davis MD, Talks about the Link Between Vaccines, PVC and Crib Death
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LfipChRciY&feature=relmfu
    “My suspicion, which is shared by others in my profession, is that the nearly 10,000 SIDS deaths that occur in the US each year are related to one or more of the vaccines that are routinely given to children. The pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine is the most likely villain , but it could also be one or more of the others. ” Dr. R. Mendelsohn – Pediatrician.

  • Free People

    Excellent post – thanks!

  • Justthefacts

    Suspicion? Really? that’s all you got? He died in 1988 so his suspicion is 27 years old at least.

  • Free People

    Just the crap is the typical trorll who will always slander the real doctors and praise the quacks. Typical pHARMafia/VaxINC/government brainwashing tools.

  • nworder

    SO IF THOUSANDS OF BABIES DIE JUST AFTER VACCINATION – IT WAS “CHANCE” WOT DID IT .

    How very scientific – lol

    This is what you troll for – you are a sicko !

    “JOEL COHEN says:

    June 17, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    MY SIX MONTH OLD SON, ONLY 5-7 HOURS AFTER RECEIVING A DTaP SHOT – presented with seizures, total lack of awareness, sustained crying and intermittent screaming, and total loss of appetite THAT LASTED FOR SIX (6) DAYS! He continued to breast feed that saved him! He was essentially gone, not recognizing us, his toys, and in what I can only describe as a waking coma-like state! He walked late and insecurely! He had upper respiratory infections every six months like clockwork until I started treating him with homeopathic remedies, after which he hasn’t been ill for 8 months! He is now 2 years 11 months, can say single words, but does not speak! “

  • nworder

    SIDS IS AS REAL AS TROLLS :-

    LITERATURE SEARCH ON SIDS Then I asked myself, are we the only people who stumbled over the dangers of vaccines? Does the medical profession know about all this? Is there anything published in the medical literature? I began to do research in medical libraries, and to my absolute astonishment, there is no end to it.

    For my book, Vaccination, I studied more than 30,000 pages of data published in medical journals about Crib Deaths after vaccinations. In one study, there were 41 babies who died within 21 days of their first Triple Antigen injection, and there was a clustering of these deaths along those critical days we recorded in the babies’ breathing after vaccination.
    This is the ultimate evidence of the causal link between the administration of those vaccines and these deaths. In the so-called “Tennessee Deaths”, hundreds of babies died there, after their DPT injections. We soon established that the vaccines are killing babies, and Crib Deaths (SIDS) are 95% vaccine deaths.

    SHAKEN BABY SYNDROME No doubt, you have heard about the ‘shaken baby syndrome’. Only about ten days ago I was in the United States at a court case testifying about shaken baby syndrome. These are often vaccine deaths. This information was published in Nexus, Aug/Sep Issue, 1998 which resulted in cases of shaken baby syndrome being thrown out of court.

    MEDICAL LITERATURE ON EPIDEMICS DEMONSTRATES THE INEFFECTIVENESS OF VACCINES (The research referred to below is done by pro-vaccination researchers. This is not anti-vaccination literature.)

  • nworder

    VACCINE INSERTS AS PLAIN AS DAY :
    Why would they have as a warning something you deny ?? your lies are starting to affect your mental well being – if you had any to start with .

    “The vaccine manufacturer of the DTaP vaccine, Sanofi Pasteur (owned by pharmaceutical giant Sanofi Group) admits in its very own insert that vaccines cause Autism, SIDs, and a whole host of other.

    Found on the FDA’s very own website, buried under their “approved products”;

    Check page 11 of the PDF, the first sentence after the bullet points.

    http://www.fda.gov/downloads/biologicsbloodvaccines/vaccines/approvedproducts/ucm101580.pdf

    Quote from the insert “Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting.”

  • nworder

    SINCE WHEN IS DEATH CAUSED BY CHANCE .

    Something is causing america to be 68th on the infant survival league – it is as every honest person knows caused by vaccination which has killed millions.

    “Dr. Jonas Salk , creator of the polio vaccine, says that analysis indicates that the live virus vaccine in use since the 1960’s is the principle, if not sole cause of all polio cases since 1961.”Polio was pretty obscure before the twentieth century. There’d been some outbreaks in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, and most victims had been under the age of four”.

    Note that these polio epidemics in earlier centuries ended on their own without the Salk and Sabin Vaccines http://www.uh.edu/admin/engines/epi1527.htm

  • nworder

    CHANCE ALONE – MY BACKSIDE :-

    According to a Connaught vaccine manufacturer’s data sheet for old style DPT vaccine,

    ‘Sudden-infant-death-syndrome (SIDS) has been reported following administration of vaccines containing diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and pertussis vaccine.

    The significance of these reports is not clear. It should be borne in mind that the three primary immunizing doses of these vaccines are usually administered to infants between the age of 2 and 6 months and that approximately 85% of SIDS cases occur in the period from 1 through 6 months of age with the peak incidence at age 2 to 4 months.’

    While they admit that SIDS has occured after vaccination with DPT containing vaccines, they attempt to brush it off by saying that that is because the majority of SIDS cases happen in the age range when vaccines are being given.

    This isn’t much of a defence, since it may be because of the shots that the SIDS occurs in that age group. Evidence suggests this to be the case (I’ll discuss that further along in this article). Even the CDC admit the startling syncrinicity of the timing between SIDS and vaccines, but then discount it as ‘coincidence’ and say that studies show the two are not linked, while ignoring all the studies that say they are.

    ‘From 2 to 4 months old, babies begin their primary course of vaccinations. This is also the peak age for sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). The timing of these two events has led some people to believe they might be related.’ – http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Concerns/sids_faq.html

  • nworder

    JENNER WAS THE INVENTOR OF VACCINES SUPERSTITION WHICH IS OVER 150 YEARS OLD .

    You are an easy target – you logic is that of a spoiled child.

    Why not get a real job in sewage before your masters sack you.

    NO PROPER STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE COMPARING NON VACCINATED WITH VACCINATED SINCE THE MEDICAL MAFIA KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE .

    ‘Neurological events have occasionally been observed following the administration of pertussis-containing vaccines.
    The events reported do not appear to constitute a single, identifiable clinical syndrome but include isolated febrile convulsions, infantile spasms, episodes of persistent screaming and severe encephalopathy resulting in permanent brain damage or DEATH.

    These events cannot be distinguished from those occurring in unvaccinated children of similar age.

    In the absence of a common, identifiable pathological mechanism, it is not possible to produce reliable estimates of the incidence of neurological events attributable to pertussis vaccination per Se.’

    They state that severe screaming occurs, along with encepholopathy, permanent brain damage and death, yet attempt to brush that off by claiming unvaccinated babies have the same symptoms, which is pure nonsense.

    1. Authorities have only ever done one double-blind controlled study on vaccination, in the 1970’s, which showed more TB in the vaccine group. This type of study, which is the only type to get any answers of scientific value, has never been repeated. Doctors say that to withhold vaccines from children would be unethical, therefore they never study unvaccinated children.
    ‘Unvaccinated’ in their terms means children who have not had DPT containing vaccines, but have had other vaccines such as polio or Hepatitis B. It is known that ALL vaccines can cause screaming, encephalitis and death, so that would make it seem as if all babies are like that and it isn’t down to the DPT.”

  • nworder

    I LOVE CUT AND PASTE KNOWLEDGE – IT IS A TROLL KILLER – I will keep doing it every time you post.

    Your masters dont like anti vaccine posts all over the internet – you will be fired – lol

    “2. Since they never study totally unvaccinated children, they cannot say that encephalitis and deaths occur in these groups.
    3. Since the encephalitis, screaming and deaths occurs AFTER vaccination and not before, this surely is a clue that the vaccine had something to do with it. If a person became ill with something prior to any shots being given, one could obviously not blame vaccination. There would be another cause. But if the reoccuring factor is, the child has been vaccinated, began screaming, failed to eat and then died of ‘SIDS’ (as is the pattern many times over), then it is good medical practice to at least look at vaccination as a possible cause.

    The medical profession and government bodies responsible for investigating SIDS are run by the Department of Health, and therefore they never look at vaccination as a possibility, even though the vaccines are being given when SIDS is peaking in incidence, when manufacturer’s admit an association, when there have been dozens of journal papers suggesting a link and most importantly, when mothers are screaming
    ‘My baby was vaccinated and he died. I know it wasn’t SIDS.’
    These mothers are ignored, told they are grieving, ‘looking for someone to blame’, or even worse, if the baby showed obvious vaccine injury such as retinal haemorraging, they are accused of causing the baby’s death themselves. In recent years there has been clusters of parents accused of shaking their own children, like in the Sally Clark case where she lost one baby 24 hours after his DPT and another baby on the same day as his vaccinations. She served time for a crime she didn’t commit and although later exonorated, found the trauma too much to bear and committed suicide.
    Her third child, a boy, was not vaccinated during his infancy and he remains healthy.”

  • nworder

    The Vaccine Hoax is Over. Documents from UK reveal 30 Years of Coverup

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    Andrew Baker ( FFN),- Freedom of Information Act in the UK filed by a doctor there has revealed 30 years of secret official documents showing that government experts have

    1. Known the vaccines don’t work
    2. Known they cause the diseases they are supposed to prevent
    3. Known they are a hazard to children
    4. Colluded to lie to the public
    5. Worked to prevent safety studies

    Those are the same vaccines that are mandated to children in the US.

    Educated parents can either get their children out of harm’s way or continue living inside one of the largest most evil lies in history, that vaccines – full of heavy metals, viral diseases, mycoplasma, fecal material, DNA fragments from other species, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80 (a sterilizing agent) – are a miracle of modern medicine.

    Freedom of Information Act filed in the US with the CDC by a doctor with an autistic son, seeking information on what the CDC knows about the dangers of vaccines, had by law to be responded to in 20 days. Nearly 7 years later, the doctor went to court and the CDC argued it does not have to turn over documents. A judge ordered the CDC to turn over the documents on September 30th, 2011.

    On October 26, 2011, a Denver Post editorial expressed shock that the Obama administration, after promising to be especially transparent, was proposing changes to the Freedom of Information Act that would allow it to go beyond declaring some documents secret and to actually allow government agencies (such as the CDC) to declare some document “non-existent.”

  • Justthefacts

    What is very scientific is collecting and comparing all of the data and discovering that the likelihood of a baby dying from SIDS is the same if they have been vaccinated or not and that data has been collect many times. You even pointed out the data in the insert that showed that being vaccinated decreased the chances for SIDS.
    I am sorry about your child and I am happy that he didn’t die from SIDS so your experience says nothing about a connection between vaccines and SIDS.

  • Justthefacts

    Unless your name is Viera Scheibner, you didn’t study 30,000 pages of anything. You copied your post from this site:
    http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19990705002005

    You are a plagiarist and a Liar.

  • Justthefacts

    This is the third time you posted this and I will respond the same way. I am not denying anything. The insert itself explains that SIDS is not cause by the vaccines on the very same page 11 just above your list:

    “The rate of SIDS observed in the US open-label safety study was 0.8/1,000 vaccinated infants and the reported rate of SIDS in the US from 1985-1991 was 1.5/1,000 live births. By chance alone, some cases of SIDS can be expected to follow receipt of whole-cell pertussis DTP or DTaP vaccines.”

    Your list states “events reported”, not conclusive evidence or cause. The insert explains that the SIDS reports occur “by chance alone”. You simply choose not to read paragraph one on page 11 because it does not fit your world view.

  • Justthefacts

    And the exact same rate of babies die from SIDS if they are vaccinate or not. Nobody anywhere has collected data from any populations where vaccinated babies dies at a higher rate that unvaccinated babies. The WHO says this, the FDA says this, the CDC Says this, the EU says this, and nobody else anywhere has an population data that disagrees with that. I am still waiting for that paper or study from you that does that comparison to support your point.
    Rant and gish gallop all you want, if you don’t have this study, you don’t have anything.

  • Justthefacts

    SIDS has been reported following administration of vaccines – that is true
    “The significance of these reports is not clear” that is also true and from your post. The reason why this is true is because:
    The same rate of SIDS has been reported with infants who where not vaccinated.
    .
    As a result:
    There is no correlation between vaccines and SIDS

  • Justthefacts

    When it comes to SIDS, you are wrong.

    In fact, in several of the studies, children who had recently received a DTP shot were less likely to get SIDS. The Institute of Medicine reported that “all controlled studies that have compared immunized versus non-immunized children have found either no association . . . or a decreased risk . . . of SIDS among immunized children” and concluded that “the evidence does not indicate a causal relation between [DTP] vaccine and SIDS.”

    Here are some of them:

    http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/136/2/121.short

    http://www.cdc.gov/MMWr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5201a1.htm

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1046/j.1365-2125.2001.00341.x/full

    Adults research and post data. Children rant.

  • Justthefacts

    Alive and well. still posts facts

    You actually posted this:
    “‘My baby was vaccinated and he died. I know it wasn’t SIDS.'”

    Gish gallop and cut-an-paste all you want. Because its not original, It can be shot down in an instant. Do you really think your are the first to do this?

    I also love to point out the loon site you got it from. This time from here:

    http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Vaccines-And-Sudden-Infant-Death-Syndrome
    vaccineriskawareness.com is site full of hoaxes.

  • Justthefacts

    hey, where are you? I’m all caught up? you need to get back to gish galloping so everyone knows you are a cut and paste shill with nothing to say
    Don’t stop now!

  • Mike Stevens

    “how many of you know the package insert for the Dtap vaccine includes SIDS as a possible side effect?”
    Errrr… No.
    The Tripedia insert states the following on page 11:
    “In the German case-control study and US open-label safety study in which 14,971 infants received Tripedia vaccine, 13 deaths in Tripedia vaccine recipients were reported. Causes of deaths included seven SIDS, and one of each of the following: enteritis, Leigh Syndrome, adrenogenital syndrome, cardiac arrest, motor vehicle accident, and accidental drowning. All of these eventsoccurred more than two weeks post immunization.2
    The rate of SIDS observed in the German case-control study was 0.4/1,000 vaccinated infants. The rate of SIDS observed in the US open-label safety study was 0.8/1,000 vaccinated infants and the reported rate of SIDS in the US from 1985-1991 was 1.5/1,000 live births.34 By chance alone, some cases of SIDS can be expected to follow receipt of whole-cell pertussis DTP 35 or DTaP vaccines.

    And the rates of SIDS were less than background, indicating no increase risk (in fact you could say DTaP vaccine was linked to a decreased risk of SIDS).

    While you are talking about this vaccine package insert, I note you have neglected to mention that the vaccine also “causes” congenital syndromes, motor vehicle accidents and accidental drowning, as is specified in the insert.
    Why so shy all of a sudden?
    Could it be that pointing those deaths after vaccine would give the game away, indicating that all these deaths were coincidental? Surely not….

    PS: If this is an example of what you come up with after “researching vaccines for 12 years”, I truly despair.

  • James M. Barber

    Notice how you got defensive about attempting to give medical advice as if you were a doctor. By presenting the insert without the knowledge of what the insert represents you are attempting to play doctor. You don’t know what the hell you are talking about and you are putting people at risk with your ignorant posting. You are claiming you know anything about what that insert says, meanwhile you don’t understand how NVIC relates to the insert. You are a fraud and a conspiracy theorist nut case. You deserve to be called an idiot for thinking you can make medical decisions when its obvious you lack an education. You attempt to respond to my information as if you had any ability to do so. You can’t even be bothered to show up with a real name, you cowardly, lazy, piece of trash.

  • James M. Barber

    VAERS data = the inserts information for bettter or worse. The fact that you are unaware of that speaks bounds about anything else you had to say on the subject. Go back to school kid, its obvious you failed here.

  • James M. Barber

    Lol you need medication for your paranoid delusions. Seek help nut job.

  • Katia

    If you look at the history of SIDS, that is what people used to think caused it.
    scienceclarified.com/Sp-Th/Sudden-Infant-Death-Syndrome-SIDS.html

  • GoFundMe

    Uh, no.

  • GoFundMe

    Ad hominen – is that all you got?

  • GoFundMe

    This isn’t true, either.

  • GoFundMe

    Hiw many lies are you going to post?

  • eggman2

    Ad bullshiten–is that all you stupid vaccine propaganda prostitutes have ? And be aware that I am being benevolent by calling you stupid vaccine propaganda prostitute. It would be the worst if I would call you simply stupid. A prostitute is someone that gets paid to do someone’s dirty work–at least they get paid. If you really believe the bullshit of the stupid/evil vaccinators and don’t get paid, that would be even worse.

  • eggman2

    Right on, that is what I say.

  • eggman2

    What ? Your @$$ is worried about your bosses ? I am sure you will be running like a chicken little to them.

    The problem with the vaccine freaks is that they are like Judas that thought that he was cool and wise. When he found out that he was not, he committed suicide.

    You , vaccine freaks, are too stupid to understand that ,by supporting vaccination policies, you are digging your own graves.

  • eggman2

    Good post

  • Free People

    Excellent post! I recall when this came out and I posted about it on NN back then. Like all truths, media just sweeps it under the rug and it’s history. Good to bring it up again and again and again and again until it sinks in!

  • Free People

    Not only isi he stupid as hell, he’s actually diabolical. He’ll get his.

  • guest

    VAERS data

    Are you on drugs? I haven’t posted anything from VAERS. Get a gripe. Way too much thimerosal, aluminum, bovine serum, chick embryo, aborted fetal cells, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, dog kidney, monkey kidney, hydrolized gelatin,monosodium glutamate (MSG)

    neomycim, polysorbate 20, polysorbate 80, porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein:
    have rotted your brain and you can’t keep your comments aligned.

  • Free People

    Hahahah! ‘Ad bullshiten’ too funny. Good one!

    Yes, they re diabolical prostitutes.

  • guest

    Sorry. Troll tactics trying to engage someone in a time suck. Your con just has no takers.

  • Free People

    At least spell the accusation correctly ..Ad homineM and no, it’s not, it’s actually the truth about for profit OFF IT!

  • Katia

    Your post has nothing to do with SIDS, or DTaP vaccine.

  • eggman2

    They closed the 10 reasons for not vaccinating your child article, so I write it here.

    REASON NUMBER 11:

    POST TRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER ( PTSD )
    I suffer from it because I saw my son unconscious the next day after he was vaccinated without my consent at the age of 4. About 3 days later he developed sores ,all over his body, that were oozing out blood and clear liquid. I didn’t want to see the doctor, but my wife had spoken to him , and came back to me with the message that he might die. He survived, but his personality changed. And to this day his mental state is not normal.

    If you have that, you might have spells where you cry like a baby, or wake up scared.

  • eggman2

    I have a book with pictures of children with the condition that the mother in this article describes, and that were due to vaccines. It also has pictures of the condition that my son had–with blood and clear liquid oozing from sores all over his body.

  • Andrew Lazarus

    This suggests to me that poor USA infant mortality is related to crappy health care for the poor (especially non-white) than vaccines. And I think that has a lot of truth in it. Our health care system is much inferior to other wealthy countries’ at the bottom economic end.

  • nworder

    USUAL VACUOUS TRASH FROM JAMES – You are the same troll under different names .

    Whats really happening with vaccine death and damage will be worse than whats on the inserts and even the inserts of ingredients and side effects would make anyone avoid vaccination for life.

    PALL MALL MEDICAL :-
    Inconvenient Truth: More Full Term Babies Dying in America

    Several studies in the 1980s showed an association between infant death and DPT vaccinations.14 15 Today, it is thought that genetic and environmental risk factors combine to leave SIDS babies with signs of petechial hemorrhages, lung congestion and brainstem and neurotransmitter dysfunction.16
    Most doctors continue to deny that vaccination is a risk factor for SIDS17 and say that SIDS has declined since pediatricians launched a national campaign in the 1990s to put babies on their backs to sleep,18 but others point out that the only reason SIDS death statistics have gone down is because, today, fewer infant deaths are labeled “SIDS” by doctors and coroners.19

    The inconvenient truth remains that the numbers of pre-term births continues to increase in America and there are more full-term babies dying before their first birthday than in most developed nations of the world. 20

    Half of U.S. Children Chronically Ill

    Health officials have no explanation for this horrible child death statistic. They also have no explanation for the fact that, today, an estimated 43 to 54 percent of all American children suffer with at least one chronic illness requiring health insurance reimbursement, including a staggering 26 percent of children under age six years at high risk for developmental, social or behavioral delays.21 Government officials now admit that, In the past decade, developmental disabilities among American children has increased by a whopping 17 percent and is led by a rise in autism and ADHD.22 23

  • nworder

    ???? Your posts are incomprehensible – surely they can hire a better troll .

    nsnbc international :

    “The CDC was also covering up e financial scandal to rival the bailout since the vaccines for the false pandemic cost the US billions. And worse, the CDC put pregnant women first in line for an untested vaccine with a sterilizing agent, polysorbate 80, in it. Thanks to the CDC, “the number of vaccine-related “fetal demise” reports increased by 2,440 percent in 2009 compared to previous years, which is even more shocking than the miscarriage statistic [700% increase].”

  • nworder

    nsbc international :-
    “The CDC’s credibility in declaring such a pandemic emergency is non-existent, again based on Freedom of Information Act. For in 2009, after the CDC had declared the H1N1 “pandemic,” the CDC refused to respond to Freedom of Information Act filed by CBS News and the CDC also attempted to block theirinvestigation. What the CDC was hiding was its part in one of the largest medical scandals in history, putting out wildly exaggerated data on what it claimed were H1N1 cases, and by doing so, created the false impression of a “pandemic” in the US.”

  • nworder

    I was quoting from Vera as you know – lol

    nsbc international :-

    “The exposure of the vaccine hoax is running neck and neck with the much older hoax of a deadly 1918-19 flu. It was aspirin that killed people in 1918-19, not a pandemic flu. It was the greatest industrial catastrophe in human history with 20-50 million people dying but it was blamed on a flu.
    The beginning of the drug industry began with that success (and Monsanto was part of it). The flu myth was used by George Bush to threaten the world with “another pandemic flu that could kill millions” – a terror tactic to get pandemic laws on the books in every state and worldwide. Then the CDC used hoax of the pandemic hoax to create terror over H1N1 and to push deadly vaccines on the public, killing thousands of unborn children and others. (CDC will not release the data and continues to push the same vaccine.)”

  • nworder

    Katia – Vaccination caused the increase in sids – why do you keep lying ? – for a little cash .

    GREEN MED INFO :-

    A new study published in Current Medicine and Chemistry titled, “Sudden infant death following hexavalent vaccination: a neuropathologic study,” lends support for the long theorized link between an ever-expanding number of infant vaccines and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS).

    The fact that the peak age for SIDS is 2–4 months, which coincides with the introduction of 11 shots containing 16 vaccines (within the US immunization schedule), is so obvious a cause for concern, that even the CDC has been compelled to address the seeming ‘coincidence’ directly:

    “From 2 to 4 months old, babies begin their primary course of vaccinations. This is also the peak age for sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS).

    The timing of these two events has led some people to believe they might be related…With babies receiving multiple doses of vaccines during their first year of life and SIDS being the leading cause of death in babies between one month and one year of age, CDC has led research studies to look for possible linkage.”

  • eggman2

    The bullshiting propaganda that you like is not facts. You are getting the facts here and in the millions of cases where vaccines caused death or disability.

    I wonder if you really believe in the vaccine bullshit, and surrender your @$$ to the experimentation. But you might just be a prostituted propaganda agent like so many.

  • nworder

    “UH NO” ? How very scientific – lol
    AMERICA = HIGHEST VACCINATION RATE = HIGHEST INFANT DEATH RATE :-
    GREEN MED INFO :-

    “Unsurprisingly, the CDC, whose pro-vaccine agenda is glaringly oblivious to the 100+ documented serious, unintended adverse effects of vaccines as evidenced in the biomedical literature, claims extensive research they commissioned has found vaccines do not cause SIDS.

    Despite the CDC’s dismissal, infant mortality rates are highest among countries that administer the most vaccines within the most vulnerable developmental window of infanthood.

    A 2011 study published in Human & Experimental Toxicology, for instance, observed that “The US childhood immunization schedule specifies 26 vaccine doses for infants aged less than 1 year—the most in the world—yet 33 nations have lower IMRs [infant mortality rates].” They found that across the 34 nations analyzed “a high statistically significant correlation between increasing number of vaccine doses and increasing infant mortality rates, with r = 0.992 (p = 0.0009).”

  • Andrew Lazarus

    At the time Dr Salk said that the polio vaccine was the cause of the majority of cases, that was a majority of about 1300 cases (1962). Ten years early, the vaccine caused none of the 50,000 cases we had, because the vaccine was not yet invented. Explain slowly: Why was it bad to trade over 50,000 cases of wild polio with over 3,100 deaths?

    Your own link discusses hypotheses for why polio was more prevalent in the 20th Century. It’s a pro-vaccine piece, in case you didn’t notice.

  • nworder

    VACCINATION MADNESS :-

    GREEN MED INFO :-

    “Also, a recent study published in Vaccine titled, “Co-administration of live measles and yellow fever vaccines and inactivated pentavalent vaccines is associated with increased mortality compared with measles and yellow fever vaccines only” found multiple infant vaccines dramatically increased the risk of mortality in a trial conducted in the West African country of Guinea-Bissau.

    While the 6-antigen hexavalent vaccine most recently linked to SIDS is presently only licensed in Europe, there are a number of ‘mandatory’ multi-dose vaccines in the US immunization schedule — including (DTaP, MMR), and which brings up the question: are the risks for adverse reactions – including lethal ones — amplified in multi-dose vaccines in comparison to single dose forms? “

  • eggman2

    You are disgustingly stupid.

  • Andrew Lazarus

    33 cases of paralytic polio in 1950? What have you been smoking? Almost 2000 polio deaths that year! (Source)

    Lurkers: absolutely nothing antivaxers say can be taken at face value. Every claim must be checked and verified. What isn’t totally false is a deceptive half-truth.

  • nworder

    MULTIPLE POISONS IN MULTIPLE VACCINES –
    GREEN MED INFO :-
    WHO WOULD PUT THIS IN THEIR CHILD :-

    Dr. Larry Palevsky, MD, has pointed out that

    “Even if vaccines only purportedly contain 1 bacterial or viral antigen (as in Varicella & Hepatitis A), there are multiple antigens inside of them making them multivalent in and of themselves.
    And, they are most often given at the same time as other vaccines, making these single antigen vaccines into multivalent injections.

    They can consist of bacterial, viral or even yeast antigens, as well as known environmental toxins, proteins, & other contaminant bacteria, viruses, and yeast.
    By definition, all vaccines, in and of themselves, are multivalent.

    Despite the fact that the Varicella vaccine contains only 1 reported viral antigen, the injection of this vaccine is still an injection into the body of multiple antigens, i.e., sucrose, hydrolyzed gelatin, monosodium glutamate (MSG), sodium phosphate dibasic, potassium phosphate monobasic, potassium chloride, and residual components of the MRC-5 cells on which the varicella virus was isolated, including DNA, protein, and trace quantities of monobasic, EDTA, neomycin, and fetal bovine serum. http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/v/varivax/varivax_pi.pdf.

    The injection of the Hepatitis A vaccine, despite only containing 1 reported viral antigen, also contains multiple antigens, i.e., aluminum hydroxide, amino acids, disodium phosphate, mono potassium phosphate, neomycin sulphate, polysorbate-20, potassium chloride, . http://www.gsk.ca/english/docs-pdf/product-monographs/Havrix.pdf.

  • Andrew Lazarus

    It’s a very convenient epistemology that you can just make up what Dr Torch was really going to publish, without having to read what he did publish. Was he also going to say the Jews poisoned the wells, before the Conspiracy silenced him?

  • nworder

    HOW YOU WOULD LOVE THESE VIRUSES IN YOUR TISSUES – and thats not counting the other boxloads of chemicals.
    GREEN MED INFO :-
    Here are the known pathogenic ingredients in the vaccine schedule:

    DaPT – 3 bacteria
    HIB – 1 bacterium
    Prevnar -13 – 13 bacteria
    Menactra – 4 bacteria
    Hepatitis B – 1 virus
    Hepatitis A – 1 virus
    Polio – 3 viruses
    Influenza – 3 viruses
    MMR – 3 viruses
    Varicella – 1 virus
    Rotavirus – 5 viruses
    Gardisil – 4 viruses

  • eggman2

    “By chance alone”, how stupid you are. You stupid vaccination freaks never think of cause and effect ? For @$$hole$ like you is always the thought of ” the magic of modern junk medicine “.

  • Andrew Lazarus

    Plaintiffs in the Vaccine Court are compensated for legal expenses even if they lose. You don’t know anything else either.

  • Andrew Lazarus

    Formaldehyde is in pears. I never liked pears and now I know why!

  • eggman2

    Give me a good reason why I should.

  • nworder

    Katia – you need retrained or sacked from your vaccine trolling job.

    When a baby dies after vaccination it is called SIDS.

    IMAGINE STUFFING THIS LOT INTO A LITTLE CHILD
    BY NUMBERS THIS IS WORSE THAN THE HOLOCAUST :-

    GREEN MED INFO :-

    “The Pentacel combination vaccine (DTaP, Polio, HIB), given to children at 2, 4, 6, & 15-18 months contains the ActHIB vaccine (HIB & tetanus), along with a multitude of other bacterial (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus) & viral (3 polio) antigens.
    The Comvax combination vaccine (Hep B + HIB), given to infants 3 times within their first year of life, contains the Hepatitis B viral antigen & Saccharomyces cerevisiae yeast antigen, along with the Pedvax HIB vaccine (HIB bacterium + Neisseria meningococcal serotype B bacterial antigen).

    The human immune system does not play favorites with injected antigens. In other words, a non-bacterial or non-viral vaccine antigen is responded to equally by the immune system, as any of the bacterial and viral antigens.”

    Given the number of ‘antigenic’ exposures in vaccines, singularly, and in multi-dose form, the number of possible immunological reactions in newborns is simply mind-blowing – especially considering just how little we know about the immune system, the developing brain and infant physiology.”

  • nworder

    This is not true – Europe has millions of poor immigrants and spends less than 25% than america .
    But america is way ahead on the toxic jabbings .

    Even Cuba fares better than vaccination nation no 1 – which is america.
    There are 3rd world countries with better infant death rates – so your logic does not stand up.

  • Andrew Lazarus

    The fact the USA spends (wastes!) a lot of money in health care delivery is not news. It’s still the case that our performance at the bottom end of the economic ladder is seriously inferior to most, if not all, First World countries. Middle class infant mortality rates are fine.

    There are a few Western countries with higher infant mortality (Latvia, IIRC), but antivax kooks don’t let that get in the way of one-size-fits-all conspiracy theories.

  • nworder

    I SEE YOU ARE THE NEW TROLL ON THE BLOCK .

    BUT YOU DONT DO ARITHMETIC :-

    Your post is incomprehensible – you are a trolling idiot who cant get other employment .

    “The Salk and Sabin Vaccines caused:

    Polio: 33,300 total cases of polio and 33 cases of paralytic polio in 1950 led to 9 deaths, but AFTER the Salk Vaccine had been widely implemented in 1960, paralytic polio cases increased 80 fold to 2,525 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus_93.pdf

    Cancer: “98 million Americans were also contaminated with monkey viruses [i.e., SV40 from the Salk and Sabin Vaccines] and may be one reason why there has been an explosion of cancer, new infectious agents and other new immune and neurological disorders among the baby boomers born between 1941 and 1961”.

    AIDS: “The transfer of monkey viruses to man via vaccines is particularly relevant to AIDS since the causative agent HIV, is thought to be derived from a simian precursor virus” [read: the SV40 virus transferred from monkeys to humans with both the Salk and Sabin Vaccines KILLED 21.8 million people]

    Hepatitis B: “the reason hepatitis B is endemic in [Asia and Africa] is because of another vaccination program gone bad — the polio vaccine. These polio viruses are cultured in monkey kidneys, and they didn’t realize there was this cancer-causing virus in it– which we’re all carrying around — and they are finding in cancers now”.

  • nworder

    NOTHING LOW LIFE TROLLERS CAN BE TAKEN AT FACE VALUE – EVERY POST OF THEIR VACCINE SALESMANSHIP MUST BE REFUTED TO SAVE THE LIFE OF BABIES.

    POLIO VACCINE DID NOT ONLY CAUSE POLIO BUT
    CANCER

    Dr. Philippe Chahinian, a leading oncologist at Mount Sinai Hospital and an expert in mesotheliomas. “We know that SV40 is implicated in cancers induced in the hamsters. Now we are seeing this agent might be implicated in the causation of certain human cancers as well.” http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/6028/shot.htm

    Dr. John Martin, the Sabin Vaccine caused the spread of SV40 to Russia [which may be why Russian men have a life expectancy 18 years shorter than Japanese men], and SV40 is expected to be passed genetically in child birth without the need for the Salk and Sabin Vaccines.

    Dr. Alan Cantwell on the link between SV-40 and AIDS.

    Harold Stearley on SV-40: “patients too young to have received the contaminated vaccine being administered forty years ago who are now believed to have been infected by human to human transmission”.

    Dr. Ted Gurney describes the mechanism by which the SV40 virus causes malignant cells to multiply rapidly.

  • Andrew Lazarus

    Your link to the CDC is a 404. That’s what happens when you copy and paste B.S. from antivax crank sites. I gave you the link: there were not 9 deaths from polio in 1950. There were almost 2000. Repeating your absurd number of 9 does not make it any less false.

  • Andrew Lazarus

    That’s all very interesting, but I’m sure everyone has noticed that it has nothing to do with your incorrect claim of 9 polio deaths.

    Since nworder made that up, isn’t it likely all the rest of the stuff he copy-pastes from reservoirs of antivax disinformation is also a lie?

  • nworder

    I CAN SEE BY YOUR SAD AVATAR THAT YOU WERE UNEMPLOYED AND WENT FOR THE TROLL JOB.

    I think you are “justthefacts” with dark sunglasses (lol) since we are back onto his favorite researcher Dr Torch .

    I never made up anything about Dr Torch – you twit.

    GREEN MED INFO :-

    ” This is by no means the first report in the medical literature linking hexavalent vaccines to SIDS. Aquick search on pubmed.gov will reveal quite a few others, dating back to an initial 2006 report published in the journal Vaccine titled, “Unexplained cases of sudden infant death shortly after hexavalent vaccination,” concluding after post-mortem autopsies that these were cases of “possibly fatal complications after application of hexavalent vaccines.”

    In 2011, a study was published in Statistics in Medicine titled “A modified self-controlled case series method to examine association between multidose vaccinations and death,” found that based on the review of 300 unexplained sudden unexpected deaths (uSUD) following either penta- or hexavalent, “a 16-fold risk increase after the 4th dose could be detected with a power of at least 90 per cent,” and “A general 2-fold risk increase after vaccination could be detected with a power of 80 per cent.”

  • nworder

    THEY SHOULD BE – BUT HOW DOES THIS HELP THE DEAD OR DAMAGED KIDS.

    GREEN MED INFO :-

    “Another 2011 study published in PLoS titled “Sudden unexpected deaths and vaccinations during the first two years of life in Italy: a case series study,” investigated a signal of an association between vaccination in the second year of life with a hexavalent vaccine and sudden unexpected deaths (SUD) in the two day window following vaccination, which was reported in Germany in 2003.

    The Italian study sought to establish whether hexavalent vaccines increased the short-term risk of SUD in infants. The study analyzed 604 infants who died of SUD, 244 (40%) of whom had received at least one vaccination. Four deaths occurred within two days from vaccination with the hexavalent vaccines, representing a 50% increase in relative risk.

    The relative risk for SUD for the risk periods 0-7 and 0-14 days were 100% [2.0 RR] and 50% [1.5 RR] higher, respectively. The study concluded that there was a 120% [2.2 RR] increased risk associated with the first dose of hexavalent vaccine.”

  • nworder

    THE HEALTH WYZE REPORT :-

    Vaccine Ingredient: Formaldehyde

    This ingredient is used in vaccines as a tissue fixative, and as a preservative. Formaldehyde is oxidized in the human body to become formic acid. Formic acid is the main ingredient of bee and ant venom. Concentrated, it is corrosive and an irritant. While absorbing the oxygen of the body, it may lead to acidosis, nerve, liver and kidney damage. According to the National Research Council, fewer than 20% but perhaps more than 10% of the general population may be susceptible to extreme formaldehyde toxicity, and may violently react to exposure at any level. Formaldehyde is ranked as one of the most hazardous compounds on ecosystems and human health, according to the Environmental Defense Fund. These findings are merely for environmental exposure, and therefore, the dangers are much greater with the formaldehyde included in vaccines, since it is injected directly into the blood. The known effects of environmental formaldehyde exposure are:Eye, nasal, throat and pulmonary irritation

    Acute sense of smell due to altered tissue proteins
    Anaemia
    Antibodies formation
    Apathy
    Blindness
    Blood in urine
    Blurred vision
    Body aches
    Bronchial spasms
    Bronchitis
    Burns nasal and throat
    Cardiac impairment
    Palpitations and arrhythmias
    Central nervous system depression
    Changes in higher cognitive functions
    Chemical sensitivity
    Chest pains and tightness
    Chronic vaginitis
    Colds
    Coma
    Conjunctivitis
    Constipation
    Convulsions
    Corneal erosion
    Cough
    Death
    Destruction of red blood cells
    Depression
    Dermatitis
    Diarrhea
    Difficulty concentrating
    Disorientation
    Dizziness
    Ear aches
    Eczema
    Emotional upsets
    Ethmoid polyps
    Fatigue
    Fecula bleeding
    Foetal asphyxiation
    Flu-like or “common cold” illness
    Frequent urination with pain
    Gastritis
    Astrointestinal inflammation
    Headaches
    Haemolytic anaemia
    Haemolytic haematuria
    Hoarseness
    Hyperactive airway disease
    Hyperactivity
    Hypomenstrual syndrome
    Immune system sensitizer
    Impaired (short) attention span
    Impaired capacity to attain attentionInability or difficulty swallowing
    Inability to recall words and names
    Inconsistent I.Q. profiles
    Inflammatory diseases of the reproductive organs
    Intestinal pain
    Intrinsic asthma
    Irritability
    Jaundice
    Joint pain
    Aches and swelling
    Kidney pain
    Laryngeal spasm
    Loss of memory
    Loss of sense of smell
    Loss of taste
    Malaise
    Menstrual and testicular pain
    Menstrual irregularities
    Metallic taste
    Muscle spasms and cramps
    Nasal congestions
    Crusting and mucosa inflammation
    Nausea
    Nosebleeds
    Numbness and tingling of the forearms and finger tips
    Pale clammy skin
    Partial laryngeal paralysis
    Pneumonia
    Post nasal drip
    Pulmonary oedema
    Reduced body temperature
    Retarded speech pattern
    Ringing or tingling in the ear
    Schizophrenic-type symptoms
    Sensitivity to sound
    Shock
    Short term memory loss
    Shortness of breath
    Skin lesions
    Sneezing
    Sore throat
    Spacey feeling
    Speaking difficulty
    Sterility
    Swollen glands
    Tearing
    Thirst
    Tracheitis
    Tracheobronchitis
    Vertigo
    Vomiting blood
    Vomiting
    Wheezing

  • Andrew Lazarus

    It’s easy when you can copy/paste dozens of factoids from reservoirs of nonsense created for the purpose, but why don’t you put the Ctrl-C key away and answer this one.

    When Dr Salk made his remark about the vaccine causing almost all polio cases in the USA, he was talking about 1,300 cases (or less, depending on the year). Before the vaccine, in 1952, we had over 50,000 cases and over 3,100 deaths. Why was it a bad trade: 50,000 cases of wild polio for 1,300 cases of vaccine-induced polio?

    Now, in context, Dr Salk was testifying in favor of using a less effective but safer vaccine, which is in fact what we switched to, with the threat of wild polio almost zero. So now, there are basically zero cases.

    Why don’t you try answering this question in your own words, instead of randomly picking another dump of quotes you haven’t read, haven’t verified, and probably don’t understand?

  • Andrew Lazarus

    Such a carefully prepared, neatly lettered set of lies. You left out, for example, that SWEDEN was so unhappy with the eventual return of pertussis they resumed routine vaccination! And pertussis rates went down after the vaccine was introduced. I realize you didn’t know that, because you suffer from Dunning-Kruger Effect and you have your precious list of sites to plagiarize from.

  • nworder

    The educated middle classes will be avoiding getting their children punctured with 100 toxic syringes – vaccination is for the little poor people who dont have the education to fight back.

    As for the rich – they will not be vaccinated.

    You have to search for any country below america on the infant death scale.

    GREEN MED INFO :-

    “Another case study published in Forensic Science International in 2008 titled, “Beta-tryptase and quantitative mast-cell increase in a sudden infant death following hexavalent immunization,” described a fatal case of a 3-month-old female infant, who died within 24 h of vaccination with hexavalent vaccine from vaccine-induced shock. They concluded:

    “…that acute respiratory failure likely due to post hexavalent immunization-related shock was the cause of death.”

    The potential for hexavalent vaccine induced shock has even been acknowledged by the vaccine’s manufacturer. GlaxoSmithKline’s hexavalent vaccine (INFANRIX) PDF insert describes post-marketing surveillance data on adverse reactions which include within the section on ‘Nervous system disorders’ the following side effect: “Collapse or shock-like state (hypotonic-hyporesponsiveness episode).”

  • nworder

    Mass Innoculation of Polio Vaccines
    CANCER AMERICA

    FATHERS MANIFESTO :-
    “What do the 19 countries Albania, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Cape Verde, Egypt, Iran, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Mauritius, Papua New Guinea, the Phillipines, Sao Tome, St. Vincent, Tajikistan, Thailand, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan have in common?

    These are the countries which have been targeted by the World Health Organization for mass innoculation of the polio vaccine. The rationale is that they are also the countries which have had the world’s highest rates of polio, because they didn’t participate in the earlier mass innoculations of these vaccines during the “polio epidemic” years of the 1950s.

    But how widespread is polio in these countries, and what is the long term effect of the polio vaccines?

    Their average rate of polio is 0.077 cases per 100,000 population, which is not very many cases of polio. It is less than a total of 250 cases–hardly sufficient justification for the mass innoculation of children with vaccines which have the potential to contain monkey viruses with unknown long term consequences.

    Besides being the countries which were late in taking the polio vaccinations, all of these countries also have another thing in common–they have extremely low cancer mortality rates.

    Men in Thailand have a cancer rate of 6.4 per 100,000 population, which is one thirty fifth of the cancer rate for American men of 221.3. The average rate of cancer for men in these 19 countries is 43.9, and 37.3 for women, which is one fifth of the rate for Americans.

    If the cancer mortality rate in the US had been equivalent to their average rate, there would have been 107,907 cancer deaths in the US in 1996 rather than 539,533–431,626 fewer deaths.

  • nworder

    POLIO VACCINE CAUSES CANCER – YOU WILL HAVE IT ANDREW – THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU INJECT A COCKTAIL OF POISONS INTO THE BODY

    SV-40 Contamination of
    Poliovirus Vaccine

    Dr. John Martin
    Center for Complex Infectious Diseases
    3328 Stevens Ave
    Rosemead CA 91770
    626-572-7288
    [email protected]
    http://www.ccid.org/

    SV-40 is a small double stranded, circular DNA virus of rhesus monkey origin. It is closely related to JC and BK viruses of human origin. While BK virus may not cause human disease, JC virus can cause a very severe brain illness in HIV infected patients, that is called progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy or PML. SV-40 is also distanly related to human papillomaviruses, some of which cause cervical cancers.

    SV-40 infection is now widespread within the human population almost certainly as a result of poliovaccine produced in rhesus monkey kidney cells during the 1950s.

    A recent study showed infection in 23% of blood samples from normal individuals. The virus can also be detected in sperm fluid and is likely to be passed congenitally to future generations (Martini et al. SV40 Early Region and Large T Antigen in Human Brain Tumors, Peripheral Blood Cells, and Sperm Fluids from Healthy Individuals. Cancer Research 56: 4820-4825, 1996). As the title indicates this paper also confirms previous reports that SV-40 is present in a significant proportion of human brain tumors.

    Other reports have shown SV-40 in human brain tumors, e.g. Bergsagel et al. New England Journal of Medicine 326: 988-993, 1992. SV-40 has also been detected in a high proportion of human mesotheliomas (Carbone et al. Oncogene 9: 1781-1790, 1994); and in bone tumors called osteogenic sarcomas (Carbone et al. Oncogene 1996). FDA has been reluctant to act on reports of SV-40 but will have to respond to forthcoming publications in the “New Yorker” and “Money” magazines.

  • nworder

    TROLLS HATE POSTS FROM INFORMED SCIENTISTS
    BETTER TO GET WILD POLIO THAN WILD MONKEY VIRUSES :-

    SV-40 Contamination of
    Poliovirus Vaccine

    Dr. John Martin
    Center for Complex Infectious Diseases
    3328 Stevens Ave
    Rosemead CA 91770

    “To his credit, Dr. Hilleman repeatedly sounded warnings about the risks inherent in the use of monkey tissue for vaccine production. For example, he has made the following comments ” …use of tissues of wild-caught animals is just asking for trouble because of the lack of control and the known high proability for viral contamination.

    Monkeys are too expensive to be grown in specific pathogen-free colonies and, hence, the simple solution to the monkey problem is to eliminate the monkey” and also “The tissues of wild-caught animals, and certainly monkeys, are commonly infected with wild viruses.

    The simplest way to solve the monkey problem is to eliminate the monkeys and this is being done using diploid cells. Monkey tissues came into use by historic decisions to use monkey kidney to make poliovaccine. There is no need to continue using monkeys when acceptible alternatives are available.” This advice was never taken especially in the face of pressure from Lederle/American Cyanamid to continue to use monkeys.

    The main result of finding SV-40 virus in rhesus monkeys was simply to switch poliovaccine production to African green monkeys.
    Existing stocks of SV-40 poliovaccines were not withdrawn from the market, nor was any effort made to suspend the military’s use of adenoviral vaccines, also known to contain SV-40. Short termed follow studies on some of the children exposed to SV-40, to see if brain tumors had developed, satisfied those in charge of Public Safety, that no harm had been done.

    Since the hamster tumor model required virus exposure to newborn animals, Public Health officials should have predicted the need to maintain surveillance for the subsequent human generation. Now that evidence is accumulating that a problem exists, the continued reluctance of FDA to respond is, to say the least, disappointing.”

  • nworder

    YOU ARE THE GOEBBELS OF THE TROLLS

    DEATH BY VACCINATION :-

    ” “Doctor” PAUL OFFIT – World’s Biggest Autism F**K-up
    Many parents trusted Dr. Paul Offit with their child’s life, only to find their child died or acquired Vaccine-Induced Autism.
    Paul Offit is a doctor who co-invented “RotaTeq,” a Rotavirus vaccine which the CDC has found to kill children by way of Intussusception, a medical condition in which the intestine folds backs upon itself.

    Since most of the immune cells in the human body are located in the gut, this is prime documented evidence that vaccines can be responsible for malabsorption phase of Autism, in which the epithelial lining of the gut becomes inflamed, and necessary nutrients and anti-inflammatories may not be sufficiently absorbed.

    The United States is one of only 3 major countries in the world that vaccinates against the Rotaviru$. The FDA has confirmed it to be contaminated with Pig Viruses – Porcine Circovirus #1 (PCV-1) and Porcine Circovirus #2 (PCV-2).

    Note: The human host may respond to Pig Viruses through a process called “molecular mimicry,” and because pig DNA is close to human DNA, the human immune system may then ATTACK human tissue, resulting in what is called an “autoimmune disease.”

    MERCK Pharmaceuticals, who DIRECTLY pays the FDA for approving new drugs, makes and distributes the RotaTeq vaccine for Dr. Paul Offit. MERCK, the company that paid out Millions because one of its last major drugs, VIOXX, was found to have caused 27,000 heart attacks in a court of law.”

  • nworder

    You are confused – have you had your full schedule
    – none of my children have died from vaccination since we stopped vaccinating after reading about the horrors of this evil superstition.
    It was a quote from the Cohen family .

  • nworder

    SIDS WARNING ON VACCINE INSERTS
    BUT DONT WORRY IT WAS CAUSED BY CHANCE LOL

    The vaccine manufacturer of the DTaP vaccine, Sanofi Pasteur (owned by pharmaceutical giant Sanofi Group) admits in its very own insert that vaccines cause Autism, SIDs, and a whole host of other.

    Found on the FDA’s very own website, buried under their “approved products”;

    Check page 11 of the PDF, the first sentence after the bullet points.

    http://www.fda.gov/downloads/biologicsbloodvaccines/vaccines/approvedproducts/ucm101580.pdf

    Quote from the insert “Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting.”

  • nworder

    NO ONE COMPARES THE VACCINATED WITH THE UNVACCINATED – IT WOULD KILL BIG PHARMA as everyone with half a brain knows.

    DEATH BY VACCINATION :-

    “Brazilian doctors are successfully treating vasculitis and performing brain surgery to remove blood clots in children vaccinated with GARDASIL, the DEFECTIVE HPV VACCINE, while American Pediatricians, Doctors, and Hospitals, such as CHILDREN’S HOSPITAL OF PENNSYLVANIA, abandon and deny treatment to children injured by MERCK’$ vaccine, then BURY THEIR MISTAKES.”

  • nworder

    SIDS CAUSED BY VACCINATION :-

    [SaneVax: If sudden infant death syndrome and autism are not associated with vaccines, why were they listed as potential adverse reactions on the Tripedia (DTaP) vaccine package insert? Read the following article – decide for yourself.]

    FDA Approved Vaccine with Autism and SIDS Listed as Adverse Events, Vaccine Safety Website Removes Information

    By Jeffry John Aufderheide, VacTruth.com (excerpts)

    Some very disturbing news recently came across my desk from a fellow activist.

    The Tripedia vaccine product insert was removed from the Johns Hopkins Institute for Vaccine Safety website. [1] I also discovered that it is now missing from the Centers for Disease Control Vaccine Price List. The “official” reason is likely Sanofi Pasteur’s discontinuing the production of the vaccine. [2]

    However, closer inspection of the Tripedia product insert reveals another smoking-gun relationship between vaccines and autism.

    In June of 2000, members from the Centers for Disease Control, the Food and Drug Administration, and pharmaceutical companies, met in a secret meeting held in Simpsonwood, GA. The topic of discussion was the relationship between thimerosal and autism.

    We know what was said at the meeting because parents obtained the transcripts through the Freedom of Information Act. The conversations are chilling. [5]

  • nworder

    SIMPSONWOODS SECRETS :-

    SANEVAC INCORPORATED :-
    Here are three important quotes from the Simpsonwood Document:

    “…the number of dose related relationships [between mercury and autism] are linear and statistically significant. You can play with this all you want. They are linear. They are statistically significant.” – Dr. William Weil, American Academy of Pediatrics. Simpsonwood, GA, June 7, 2000

    “Forgive this personal comment, but I got called out at eight o’clock for an emergency call and my daughter-in-law delivered a son by c-section. Our first male in the line of the next generation and I do not want that grandson to get a Thimerosal containing vaccine until we know better what is going on. It will probably take a long time. In the meantime, and I know there are probably implications for this internationally, but in the meanwhile I think I want that grandson to only be given Thimerosal-free vaccines.” – Dr. Robert Johnson, Immunologist, University of Colorado, Simpsonwood, GA, June 7, 2000

    “But there is now the point at which the research results have to be handled, and even if this committee decides that there is no association and that information gets out, the work has been done and through the freedom of information that will be taken by others and will be used in other ways beyond the control of this group.

    And I am very concerned about that as I suspect that it is already too late to do anything regardless of any professional body and what they say…My mandate as I sit here in this group is to make sure at the end of the day that 100,000,000 are immunized with DTP, Hepatitis B and if possible Hib, this year, next year and for many years to come, and that will have to be with thimerosal containing vaccines unless a miracle occurs and an alternative is found quickly and is tried and found to be safe.” – Dr. John Clements, World Health Organization, Simpsonwood, GA, June 7, 2000

  • nworder

    WHO ON EARTH WOULD ALLOW A JAB INTO THEIR CHILD BASED ON THESE WARNINGS :-

    ADVERSE REACTIONS MMR :-
    The following adverse reactions are listed in decreasing order of severity, without regard to causality,
    within each body system category and have been reported during clinical trials, with use of the marketed
    vaccine, or with use of monovalent or bivalent vaccine containing measles, mumps, or rubella:

    Body as a Whole :-
    Panniculitis; atypical measles; fever; syncope; headache; dizziness; malaise; irritability.
    Cardiovascular System
    Vasculitis.
    Digestive System
    Pancreatitis; diarrhea; vomiting; parotitis; nausea.
    7
    Endocrine System
    Diabetes mellitus.
    Hemic and Lymphatic System
    Thrombocytopenia (see WARNINGS, Thrombocytopenia); purpura; regional lymphadenopathy;
    leukocytosis.
    Immune System
    Anaphylaxis and anaphylactoid reactions have been reported as well as related phenomena such as
    angioneurotic edema (including peripheral or facial edema) and bronchial spasm in individuals with or
    without an allergic history.
    Musculoskeletal System
    Arthritis; arthralgia; myalgia.
    Arthralgia and/or arthritis (usually transient and rarely chronic), and polyneuritis are features of
    infection with wild-type rubella and vary in frequency and severity with age and sex, being greatest in
    adult females and least in prepubertal children. This type of involvement as well as myalgia and
    paresthesia, have also been reported following administration of MERUVAX II.
    Chronic arthritis has been associated with wild-type rubella infection and has been related to
    persistent virus and/or viral antigen isolated from body tissues. Only rarely have vaccine recipients
    developed chronic joint symptoms.
    Following vaccination in children, reactions in joints are uncommon and generally of brief duration. In
    women, incidence rates for arthritis and arthralgia are generally higher than those seen in children
    (children: 0-3%; women: 12-26%),{17,56,57} and the reactions tend to be more marked and of longer
    duration. Symptoms may persist for a matter of months or on rare occasions for years. In adolescent
    girls, the reactions appear to be intermediate in incidence between those seen in children and in adult
    women. Even in women older than 35 years, these reactions are generally well tolerated and rarely
    interfere with normal activities.
    Nervous System
    Encephalitis; encephalopathy; measles inclusion body encephalitis (MIBE) (see
    CONTRAINDICATIONS); subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE); Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS);
    acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM); transverse myelitis; febrile convulsions; afebrile
    convulsions or seizures; ataxia; polyneuritis; polyneuropathy; ocular palsies; paresthesia. ” !!!!!!

  • nworder

    THE HEALTH WYZE REPORT :-

    The connection to autism has already been repeatedly established, and there are many other conditions caused by vaccines.
    Permanent paralysis (Guillain Barré syndrome) is surprisingly common, for instance. Vaccines are said to prevent certain diseases.
    However, the chance of catching these diseases naturally is incredibly remote, and the horrid side effects from vaccines are so common that vaccines overall cause much more harm than good.
    The chance that a particular vaccine will actually offer protection varies between 35% and 90%, and almost all of them lose effectiveness over time.
    In some cases, vaccines infect patients with the very diseases that they were meant to offer protection from, because they utilize live viral strains.

    “A single vaccine given to a 6 pound infant is the equivalent of giving a 180 lb. adult 30 vaccines in one day.”

    — Dr. Boyd Haley

  • nworder

    LUDICROUS LOGIC – IF A BABY GETS VACCINATED AND DIES IN A CAR ACCIDENT – YOU CAN BE SURE VACCINES ARE SAFE ? LOL

    You need treatment – you fool !

  • Katia

    No, when a baby dies after vaccination is it not always called SIDS.

  • Katia

    Please provide some documentation that the incidence of SIDS increased following vaccination (1940s).

  • nworder

    YOU WONT FIND ANYTHING SINCE THIS IS TO BE COVERED UP. No proper studies would ever be undertaken since they know and you do to that vaccination causes death.

    It is on the warning insert – sids IS on the warning insert
    but I have posted the insert warning.

  • Katia

    Yes, the word SIDS is on the insert, saying there is no relationship to it and the vaccine!

  • nworder

    So why put the SIDS warning on the insert would be the first question for a normal rational human to ask.

    Do you know what double speak is ?

  • Katia
  • nworder

    I never read pro vaccine posts so you waste your time but still pick up a few cents

  • Katia

    You’re too funny! That’s a link to “Reading is Fundamental”.

  • Andrew Lazarus

    Cancer rates are lower in countries with shorter life expectancies: if diphtheria kills you aged 2, you don’t get lung cancer at 55. That’s why real scientists adjust cancer rates for age. Life expectancy in Thailand is below the USA, so it’s not like we want to make a blanket trade here!

  • Andrew Lazarus

    Another copy/paste, and still no attempt to back up your claim of 9 polio deaths in 1950. I think your bot needs reprogramming!

  • Andrew Lazarus

    As I said earlier: Why don’t you try answering this question [how many polio deaths] in your own words, instead of randomly picking another dump of quotes you haven’t read, haven’t verified, and probably don’t understand?

  • nworder

    You better get onto it right away

  • nworder

    If vaccination in america kills you aged 2 you dont get cancer. But america is near top of the scale for cancer and all degenerative diseases yet spends more on “health” than most other countries put together .

    But really highly vaccinated generations from the 80’s and 90’s they will soon be dropping like flies.

  • nworder

    Why not look up the CDC website – you’re on their side .

    “The Salk and Sabin Vaccines caused:

    Polio: 33,300 total cases of polio and 33 cases of paralytic polio in 1950 led to 9 deaths, but AFTER the Salk Vaccine had been widely implemented in 1960, paralytic polio cases increased 80 fold to 2,525 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus_93.pdf

  • nworder

    Why not look up the CDC website – I am not working for a deadbeat troll :

    The Salk and Sabin Vaccines caused:

    “Polio: 33,300 total cases of polio and 33 cases of paralytic polio in 1950 led to 9 deaths, but AFTER the Salk Vaccine had been widely implemented in 1960, paralytic polio cases increased 80 fold to 2,525 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus_93.pdf

  • Andrew Lazarus

    Your link doesn’t work. I told you that before. I also gave you the link to the real CDC numbers, almost 2000 deaths. I see from Google you re simply copy-pasting drivel others have written. Why don’t you go find the polio statistics yourself, instead of copy-paste, and then you can come back and apologize for believing something so stupid.

  • nworder

    THE POLIO FRAUD :-

    “The following article appeared in the pages of Pediatrics in the early 50s. The evidence was obvious that Polio was NOT an infectious, transmissible disease. It was only after the criminal elements in organized medicine and the vaccine industry conspired that Polio was then presented as an infectious epidemic disease in order to sell vaccines.

    One of the largely unknown criminal acts committed by organized medicine immediately after Polio vaccines were put in use, was to advise doctors not to report new cases of Polio until tbirty days after the onset of symptoms. This of course helped make the vaccines look good by eliminating the cases misdiagnosed early on. Doctors often labeled every kid with a stiff neck and fever as a Polio statistic, waiting thirty days eliminated those mistakes from the overall count. Another ruse was to rename Polio and call it Aseptic Meningitis. It has been known by 200 names over the years.

    A very significant effect on the early Polio numbers resulted from the efforts of Benjamin Sandler MD who conclusively proved that sudden high doses of dietary sugar caused Polio. His diet was widely published in every major newspaper in the country and summer sales of high sugar junk foods were outlawed in his small North Carolina community stopping new cases of Polio. He published a book entitled, “Diet Prevents Polio” another proof of the poison cause of Polio.

    Australian medical doctors killed half of the Polio-vaccinated Aborigine children until one MD tried using vitamin C before the shots. The Book, “Every Other Child” tells the story. It was vitamin C that eventually stopped the wholesale slaughter of Australian Aborigine children by the medical quacks.

    When the Japanese stopped vaccinating their infants and waited until the children were two years old, Japan immediately moved up into first place in infant mortality, proving conclusively that vaccinations kill babies.

    When Dr Vieara Scheibner of Australia discovered that DPT shots were causing crib deaths, the medical fraternity ignored her but the public demand for the DPT shots, which are strictly voluntary in Australia, dropped by approximately 50% and the crib death rate immediately dropped about the same amount, again proving that vaccination kills babies.

    It is my opinion, based upon my knowledge, experience and historical proof, that any doctor who vaccinates an infant belongs in jail not in practice.”

  • nworder

    IT GETS TO THE CDC WEBSITE – BUT GUESS WHAT – THEY REMOVED THE PAGE – LOL

    “The page you requested cannot be found “at this time”. It may be temporarily unavailable or it may have been removed or relocated.”

  • Andrew Lazarus

    That’s the standard 404 message. But if you are so sure of yourself, maybe you can find it with the Wayback Machine.

    As I mentioned, the real number is just under 2,000 polio deaths in 1950.

    We now, I suppose, resume our regular programming of large copy-paste dumps from other sites.

  • nworder

    AFTER VACCINATION IT WAS MILLIONS – ESPECIALLY WITH WHAT BILL GATES IS DOING IN AFRICA AND INDIA

    PARALYSING MILLIONS

    FROM THE POLIO FRAUD :-

    “VIOXX causes Aseptic Meningitis – the current euphemism under which POLIO masquerades these days.

    VIOXX is one of the current poisons that cause Polio.

    Want proof?

    Check your Physicians Desk Reference (PDR).

    Other drugs that can cause POLIO are IBUPROFEN, NAPROXEN, SULINDAC and TOLMETIN.

    (Polio was renamed Aseptic Meningitis after the vaccines went into use, thereby effecting a partial reduction in Polio by euphemistic redefinition.)

    In our age, redefining 25 old diseases as AIDS helped create the fake AIDS epidemic of today.

  • nworder

    THE POLIO SCAM :-

    “Before getting into the POISON CAUSE OF POLIO article one more comment to help drive home the point. The following is from John at whale.to in answer to an article I sent to one of the anti-vaccination websites – I added the bold print and underline [DHD Sr].

    Talking of various polio terms I came across some GBS (another polio one) ones. Amazing really:

    GBS is short for Guillain-Barré-Strohl syndrome which is long for just plain Guillain-Barré.

    The point is that GBS is Also known by the following names:
    Landry’s paralysis
    Kussmaul-Landry syndrome
    Landry’s syndrome
    Landry-Guillain-Barré syndrome
    Landry-Kussmaul syndrome
    Glanzmann-Saland syndrome (misnomer)

    Synonyms for the above named:
    Acute ascending polyradiculoneuritis, acute polyneuritis, acute febrile polyneuritis, acute idiopathic polyneuritis, acute infectious polyneuritis, acute inflammatory demyelinating polyradiculoneuropathy, acute plexitis, acute polyneuritis with facial diplegia, acute polyneuronitis, acute polyneuropathy, acute polyradiculitis, ascending paralysis, acute postinfectious polyneuropathy, celluloradiculoneuritis, encephalomyeloradiculoneuritis, febrile polyneuritis, idiopathic polyradiculoneuritis, infectious neuronitis, infectious polyneuritis, infectious polyneuronitis, inflammatory polyneuropathy, myeloradiculitis, neuritis with albuminocytologic dissociation, neuromyelitis hyperalbumenotica, neuronitis, paralysis spinalis ascendens acuta, polyneuritis with facial diplegia, polyradiculitis, polyradiculoneuritis, polyradiculonévrite inflammatoire (aiguê), postinfectious radiculoneuropathy, radiculoneuritis, schwannosis. All are believed to be the same syndrome. This disturbance has been described by various eponymic terms, which are now all believed to be the same disease. The term Glanzmann-Saland syndrome (severe polyneuritis following diphteriae) has also been used, but that is a misnomer – for more information along these lines go to – http://www.whonamedit.com/synd.cfm/1766.html

  • Justthefacts

    Your cut and past post is not about SIDS so I’ll join in with unrelated posts:

    The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that their opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments — the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or “gotcha” arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. Thus, galloping is frequently used in timed debates (especially by creationists) to overwhelm one’s opponent.

    Examples are commonly found in “list” articles that may claim to show “100 reasons for” something, or “50 reasons against” something. At this sort of level, with dozens upon dozens of minor arguments, each individual point on the list may only be a single sentence or two, and many may be a repeat or vague re-wording of a previous one. This is the intention: although it is trivial amount of effort on the part of the galloper to make a point, particularly if they just need to re-iterate an existing one a different way, a refutation may take much longer and someone addressing will be unable to refute all points in a similarly short order. If even one argument in a Gish Gallop is left standing at the end, or addressed insufficiently, the galloper will attempt to claim victory.

    The term was coined by Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education, named after creationist Duane Gish.[1] Creationists are fond of it; see “101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe” for example, which is perhaps the most stunning case. Sam Harris describes the technique as “starting 10 fires in 10 minutes.”

  • Justthefacts

    So you can’t explains how the baby was healthy after the vaccination and you can’t describe what killed him without trace so you are reduced to insults.
    I heard you the first time. Surrender accepted. You are just angry and have not understanding of the situation. You are not alone.

  • Justthefacts

    An you have no explanations for you irrational beliefs. You can make peace with the knowledge that you are not alone in ignorance.

  • Justthefacts

    Nothing but cause and effect. the exact same rate of SIDS death applies to vaccinated and unvaccinated babies. That means no cause and no effect by vaccinates. The chance of a vaccinated baby dying that has been vaccinated is exactly the same as chance, hence “chance alone”. “Chance” doesn’t means there is no cause; it means it’s not vaccines.

  • nworder

    I WOULD SAY THIS DESCRIBES YOUR PHARMA TROLLING PERFECTLY ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE TEAM PLAYING WITH YOURSELF AS MULTIPLE IDENTITIES OR WITH OTHER TROLLS

    If a mother has lost a child you even attack her character
    – If you are being beaten on a topic you change the topic
    talk about the kettle calling the pot black – look in the mirror you arrogant fool.
    As the lowest of employments – telling endless lies for money – you have a cheek !

    BY THE WAY VACCINES KILL AND MAIN AND HAVE BEEN DOING SO FOR NEARLY 200 YEARS.

  • John

    So you think the pittance given to the victims in Vaccine Court is good compensation? And what “else” do I not know? Are you smart and I am stupid? Do you think a Special Master is a legitimate way to deal with vaccine cases?

  • Justthefacts

    Don’t. Please make is very clear everywhere that you are irrational and should be ignored. It makes it easier for me.

  • Justthefacts

    You didn’t say that. You posted as if its you. You can’t keep track of your random, mindless, cut and paste, posts

  • nworder

    HEALTHY AFTER THE VACCINATION ????
    5 DAYS ????

    You can be healthy after some snakebites – for a few hours.
    With the cup of borgia – you could be healthy for weeks –
    then die over months.
    You are just just GISH GALLOPING – LOL

  • Justthefacts

    for the fourth time, you are lying about the insert: I save my posts also. The insert states:

    “The rate of SIDS observed in the US open-label safety study was 0.8/1,000 vaccinated infants and the reported rate of SIDS in the US from 1985-1991 was 1.5/1,000 live births. By chance alone, some cases of SIDS can be expected to follow receipt of whole-cell pertussis DTP or DTaP vaccines.”

    The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that their opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments — the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or “gotcha” arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. Thus, galloping is frequently used in timed debates (especially by creationists) to overwhelm one’s opponent.

    Examples are commonly found in “list” articles that may claim to show “100 reasons for” something, or “50 reasons against” something. At this sort of level, with dozens upon dozens of minor arguments, each individual point on the list may only be a single sentence or two, and many may be a repeat or vague re-wording of a previous one. This is the intention: although it is trivial amount of effort on the part of the galloper to make a point, particularly if they just need to re-iterate an existing one a different way, a refutation may take much longer and someone addressing will be unable to refute all points in a similarly short order. If even one argument in a Gish Gallop is left standing at the end, or addressed insufficiently, the galloper will attempt to claim victory.

    The term was coined by Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education, named after creationist Duane Gish.[1] Creationists are fond of it; see “101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe” for example, which is perhaps the most stunning case. Sam Harris describes the technique as “starting 10 fires in 10 minutes.”

  • nworder

    MORE TROLLING GISH GALLOP

    VACCINATION FALLS OFF – THE DISEASES FALL OFF

    VACCINE AWARENESS NETWORK :-
    “The same thing has happened in other countries when vaccination is stopped or delayed.
    For instance, in the UK in 1975 and 1976, there was publicity about the whooping cough vaccine causing brain damage, so the vaccination rate fell to only 30%, and only 10% in some areas. In line with this, the infant mortality rate also fell.
    By 1977, the controversy was starting to simmer down so vaccination rates began to climb up. And yes, you’ve guessed right, the infant mortality rate increased.

    McFarlane (1982) wrote:

    “The postneonatal mortality fell markedly in 1976, the year in which a sharp decline in perinatal mortality rate began. Between 1976 and 1979, however, neither the late nor the postneonatal mortality rates fell any further. Indeed, the postneonatal mortality rate increased ,slightly among babies born in 1977.’

    This correlates exactly with the rise and fall of vaccination levels.

    Fine and Clarkson (1982) wrote “…it is surprising that the interepidemic period did not decrease after the 1974 fall in vaccine uptake.”
    They were expecting unvaccinated children to come down with whooping cough in large numbers.
    Instead, they had the lowest ever recorded number of whooping cough hospitalisations and deaths.”

  • nworder

    JUST THE GISH GALLOP
    NO PROPER STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE COMPARING THE VACCINATED WITH THE UNVACCINATED

    Big Pharma know if they do this they will shut down tomorrow .

  • Justthefacts

    The WHO, CDC, FDA, EU and countless others have all gathered the data and the SIDS rate is the same for vaccinated and unvaccinated people

    The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that their opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments — the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or “gotcha” arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. Thus, galloping is frequently used in timed debates (especially by creationists) to overwhelm one’s opponent.

    Examples are commonly found in “list” articles that may claim to show “100 reasons for” something, or “50 reasons against” something. At this sort of level, with dozens upon dozens of minor arguments, each individual point on the list may only be a single sentence or two, and many may be a repeat or vague re-wording of a previous one. This is the intention: although it is trivial amount of effort on the part of the galloper to make a point, particularly if they just need to re-iterate an existing one a different way, a refutation may take much longer and someone addressing will be unable to refute all points in a similarly short order. If even one argument in a Gish Gallop is left standing at the end, or addressed insufficiently, the galloper will attempt to claim victory.

    The term was coined by Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education, named after creationist Duane Gish.[1] Creationists are fond of it; see “101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe” for example, which is perhaps the most stunning case. Sam Harris describes the technique as “starting 10 fires in 10 minutes.”

  • Justthefacts

    Is that all you got? reposting the same two things? Nothing of your own, just mindless crap.

    For the fifth time. this is what the insert says:

    “The rate of SIDS observed in the US open-label safety study was 0.8/1,000 vaccinated infants and the reported rate of SIDS in the US from 1985-1991 was 1.5/1,000 live births. By chance alone, some cases of SIDS can be expected to follow receipt of whole-cell pertussis DTP or DTaP vaccines.”

    The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that their opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments — the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or “gotcha” arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. Thus, galloping is frequently used in timed debates (especially by creationists) to overwhelm one’s opponent.

    Examples are commonly found in “list” articles that may claim to show “100 reasons for” something, or “50 reasons against” something. At this sort of level, with dozens upon dozens of minor arguments, each individual point on the list may only be a single sentence or two, and many may be a repeat or vague re-wording of a previous one. This is the intention: although it is trivial amount of effort on the part of the galloper to make a point, particularly if they just need to re-iterate an existing one a different way, a refutation may take much longer and someone addressing will be unable to refute all points in a similarly short order. If even one argument in a Gish Gallop is left standing at the end, or addressed insufficiently, the galloper will attempt to claim victory.

    The term was coined by Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education, named after creationist Duane Gish.[1] Creationists are fond of it; see “101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe” for example, which is perhaps the most stunning case. Sam Harris describes the technique as “starting 10 fires in 10 minutes.”

  • nworder

    AMERICA’S HIGHEST INFANT DEATH RATE
    RANKED 60 – 70TH NOW . WOW 1

    NATIONAL VACCINE INFORMATION NEWSLETTER :-

    “American Children Used To Be Healthier

    This is not the way it used to be in America when I was growing up in the 1950s and early 1960s.
    Back then, women were not getting vaccinated during pregnancy 24 and there were only a few vaccines given to babies25 and there were few children suffering with learning disabilities, ADHD, autism, asthma and severe allergies,26 27 diabetes,28 29 bi-polar disorders30 and taking a cocktail of prescription medications.31

    And the U.S. was ranked number 12 among all nations in infant mortality, not near the bottom of the list.”

  • Justthefacts

    And again you gish gallop nothing about SIDS.

    The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that their opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments — the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or “gotcha” arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. Thus, galloping is frequently used in timed debates (especially by creationists) to overwhelm one’s opponent.

    Examples are commonly found in “list” articles that may claim to show “100 reasons for” something, or “50 reasons against” something. At this sort of level, with dozens upon dozens of minor arguments, each individual point on the list may only be a single sentence or two, and many may be a repeat or vague re-wording of a previous one. This is the intention: although it is trivial amount of effort on the part of the galloper to make a point, particularly if they just need to re-iterate an existing one a different way, a refutation may take much longer and someone addressing will be unable to refute all points in a similarly short order. If even one argument in a Gish Gallop is left standing at the end, or addressed insufficiently, the galloper will attempt to claim victory.

    The term was coined by Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education, named after creationist Duane Gish.[1] Creationists are fond of it; see “101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe” for example, which is perhaps the most stunning case. Sam Harris describes the technique as “starting 10 fires in 10 minutes.”

  • Justthefacts

    The CDC, WHO, FDA, and countless others have shown that the SIDS rate is the same between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.

    The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that their opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments — the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or “gotcha” arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. Thus, galloping is frequently used in timed debates (especially by creationists) to overwhelm one’s opponent.

    Examples are commonly found in “list” articles that may claim to show “100 reasons for” something, or “50 reasons against” something. At this sort of level, with dozens upon dozens of minor arguments, each individual point on the list may only be a single sentence or two, and many may be a repeat or vague re-wording of a previous one. This is the intention: although it is trivial amount of effort on the part of the galloper to make a point, particularly if they just need to re-iterate an existing one a different way, a refutation may take much longer and someone addressing will be unable to refute all points in a similarly short order. If even one argument in a Gish Gallop is left standing at the end, or addressed insufficiently, the galloper will attempt to claim victory.

    The term was coined by Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education, named after creationist Duane Gish.[1] Creationists are fond of it; see “101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe” for example, which is perhaps the most stunning case. Sam Harris describes the technique as “starting 10 fires in 10 minutes.”

  • Justthefacts

    Not one mention of SIDS or SUUDS in your mindless, cut and paste post.

    The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that their opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments — the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or “gotcha” arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. Thus, galloping is frequently used in timed debates (especially by creationists) to overwhelm one’s opponent.

    Examples are commonly found in “list” articles that may claim to show “100 reasons for” something, or “50 reasons against” something. At this sort of level, with dozens upon dozens of minor arguments, each individual point on the list may only be a single sentence or two, and many may be a repeat or vague re-wording of a previous one. This is the intention: although it is trivial amount of effort on the part of the galloper to make a point, particularly if they just need to re-iterate an existing one a different way, a refutation may take much longer and someone addressing will be unable to refute all points in a similarly short order. If even one argument in a Gish Gallop is left standing at the end, or addressed insufficiently, the galloper will attempt to claim victory.

    The term was coined by Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education, named after creationist Duane Gish.[1] Creationists are fond of it; see “101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe” for example, which is perhaps the most stunning case. Sam Harris describes the technique as “starting 10 fires in 10 minutes.”

  • Justthefacts

    No mention of SIDS or SUUDS in your mindless, cut and paste post.

    The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that their opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments — the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or “gotcha” arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. Thus, galloping is frequently used in timed debates (especially by creationists) to overwhelm one’s opponent.

    Examples are commonly found in “list” articles that may claim to show “100 reasons for” something, or “50 reasons against” something. At this sort of level, with dozens upon dozens of minor arguments, each individual point on the list may only be a single sentence or two, and many may be a repeat or vague re-wording of a previous one. This is the intention: although it is trivial amount of effort on the part of the galloper to make a point, particularly if they just need to re-iterate an existing one a different way, a refutation may take much longer and someone addressing will be unable to refute all points in a similarly short order. If even one argument in a Gish Gallop is left standing at the end, or addressed insufficiently, the galloper will attempt to claim victory.

    The term was coined by Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education, named after creationist Duane Gish.[1] Creationists are fond of it; see “101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe” for example, which is perhaps the most stunning case. Sam Harris describes the technique as “starting 10 fires in 10 minutes.”

  • nworder

    HOWS THIS FOR JUST THE GISH GALLOP :-

    INFANT MORTALITY RATES IN 2009
    EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD READ THIS :-

    BUT I HEARD THAT AMERICA IS 60 OR MORE IN 2014.

    IT IS ALMOST PARALLEL TO VACCINATION RATES.

    Table 1. 2009 Infant mortality rates, top 34 nations8
    Rank Country IMR
    1 Singapore 2.31
    2 Sweden 2.75
    3 Japan 2.79
    4 Iceland 3.23
    5 France 3.33
    6 Finland 3.47
    7 Norway 3.58
    8 Malta 3.75
    9 Andorra 3.76
    10 Czech Republic 3.79
    11 Germany 3.99
    12 Switzerland 4.18
    13 Spain 4.21
    14 Israel 4.22
    15 Liechtenstein 4.25
    16 Slovenia 4.25
    17 South Korea 4.26
    18 Denmark 4.34
    19 Austria 4.42
    20 Belgium 4.44
    21 Luxembourg 4.56
    22 Netherlands 4.73
    23 Australia 4.75
    24 Portugal 4.78
    25 United Kingdom 4.85
    26 New Zealand 4.92
    27 Monaco 5.00
    28 Canada 5.04
    29 Ireland 5.05
    30 Greece 5.16
    31 Italy 5.51
    32 San Marino 5.53
    33 Cuba 5.82
    34 United States 6.22
    CIA. Country comparison: infant mortality rate (2009).

  • Justthefacts

    You are the one that Gish gallops and posts mindless cut and pastes. You said so yourself. You much avoid a direct discussion because you are a wrong and you would loose.
    .
    The SIDS rate is the same for vaccinated and unvaccinated babies. That’s a fact.
    IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY YOURSELF AND SHOW YOUR POINT, DO IT. Otherwise we can continue to exchange unrelated cut and pastes.

  • Justthefacts

    You can’t be healthy for five days after a snakebite. Are you say the baby was sick and the mother did nothing? Are to attacking the mother now?

  • Justthefacts

    Yes you are posting “MORE TROLLING GISH GALLOP”

    Not one mention of SIDS or SUUDS in your mindless, cut and paste post.

    The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that their opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments — the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or “gotcha” arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. Thus, galloping is frequently used in timed debates (especially by creationists) to overwhelm one’s opponent.

    Examples are commonly found in “list” articles that may claim to show “100 reasons for” something, or “50 reasons against” something. At this sort of level, with dozens upon dozens of minor arguments, each individual point on the list may only be a single sentence or two, and many may be a repeat or vague re-wording of a previous one. This is the intention: although it is trivial amount of effort on the part of the galloper to make a point, particularly if they just need to re-iterate an existing one a different way, a refutation may take much longer and someone addressing will be unable to refute all points in a similarly short order. If even one argument in a Gish Gallop is left standing at the end, or addressed insufficiently, the galloper will attempt to claim victory.

    The term was coined by Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education, named after creationist Duane Gish.[1] Creationists are fond of it; see “101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe” for example, which is perhaps the most stunning case. Sam Harris describes the technique as “starting 10 fires in 10 minutes.”

  • nworder

    WHY SHOW SIDS AS A SIDE EFFECT OF VACCINES THEN ??????????

    Your just gish galloping – lol

    SO SIDS OR DEATH OF AN INFANT TABLE ABOVE MATCHES THE VACCINATION SCHEDULES TO A

    HIGH DEGREE OF CORRELATION :-

    Table 2. Summary of International Immunization Schedules: vaccines recommended/required prior to one year of age in 34 nations
    Nation Vaccines prior to one year of age
    Totalb doses Group (range of doses)
    Sweden DTaP (2), Polio (2), Hib (2), Pneumo (2) 12 1 (12–14)
    Japan DTaP (3), Polio (2), BCG 12
    Iceland DTaP (2), Polio (2), Hib (2), MenC (2) 12
    Norway DTaP (2), Polio (2), Hib (2), Pneumo (2) 12
    Denmark DTaP (2), Polio (2), Hib (2), Pneumo (2) 12
    Finland DTaP (2), Polio (2), Hib (2), Rota (3) 13
    Malta DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3) 15 2 (15–17)
    Slovenia DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3) 15
    South Korea DTaP (3), Polio (3), HepB (3) 15
    Singapore DTaP (3), Polio (3), HepB (3), BCG, Flu 17
    New Zealand DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (2), HepB (3) 17
    Germany DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), Pneumo (3) 18 3 (18–20)
    Switzerland DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), Pneumo (3) 18
    Israel DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (3) 18
    Liechtensteina DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), Pneumo (3) 18
    Italy DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (3) 18
    San Marinoa DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (3) 18
    France DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), Pneumo (2), HepB (2) 19
    Czech Republic DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (3), BCG 19
    Belgium DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (3), Pneumo (2) 19
    United Kingdom DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), Pneumo (2), MenC (2) 19
    Spain DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (3), MenC (2) 20
    Portugal DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (3), MenC (2), BCG 21 4 (21–23)
    Luxembourg DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (2), Pneumo (3), Rota (3) 22
    Cuba DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (4), MenBC (2), BCG 22
    Andorraa DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (3), Pneumo (3), MenC (2) 23
    Austria DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (3), Pneumo (3), Rota (2) 23
    Ireland DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (3), Pneumo (2), MenC (2), BCG 23
    Greece DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (3), Pneumo (3), MenC (2) 23
    Monacoa DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (3), Pneumo (3), HepA, BCG 23
    Netherlands DTaP (4), Polio (4), Hib (4), Pneumo (4) 24 5 (24–26)
    Canada DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (3), Pneumo (3), MenC (2), Flu 24
    Australia DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (4), Pneumo (3), Rota (2) 24
    United States DTaP (3), Polio (3), Hib (3), HepB (3), Pneumo (3), Rota (3), Flu (2) 26
    a
    These four nations were excluded from the analysis because they had fewer than five infant deaths.
    b DTaP is administered as a single shot but contains three separate vaccines (for diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis). Thus, DTaP given
    three times in infancy is equivalent to nine vaccine doses.
    Immunization schedules are for 2008–2009.9,

  • nworder

    THATS SICK – CROWDING OUT THE SITE WITH THE SAME POST OVER AND OVER – YOU KNOW YOU HAVE LOST
    I am going to complain

  • Justthefacts
  • Justthefacts

    Not one mention of how vaccines cause SIDS or SUUDS in your mindless, cut and paste post.

    The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that their opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments — the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or “gotcha” arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. Thus, galloping is frequently used in timed debates (especially by creationists) to overwhelm one’s opponent.

    Examples are commonly found in “list” articles that may claim to show “100 reasons for” something, or “50 reasons against” something. At this sort of level, with dozens upon dozens of minor arguments, each individual point on the list may only be a single sentence or two, and many may be a repeat or vague re-wording of a previous one. This is the intention: although it is trivial amount of effort on the part of the galloper to make a point, particularly if they just need to re-iterate an existing one a different way, a refutation may take much longer and someone addressing will be unable to refute all points in a similarly short order. If even one argument in a Gish Gallop is left standing at the end, or addressed insufficiently, the galloper will attempt to claim victory.

    The term was coined by Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education, named after creationist Duane Gish.[1] Creationists are fond of it; see “101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe” for example, which is perhaps the most stunning case. Sam Harris describes the technique as “starting 10 fires in 10 minutes.”

  • Justthefacts

    Not one mention of SIDS or SUUDS in your mindless, cut and paste post.

    The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that their opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments — the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or “gotcha” arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. Thus, galloping is frequently used in timed debates (especially by creationists) to overwhelm one’s opponent.

    Examples are commonly found in “list” articles that may claim to show “100 reasons for” something, or “50 reasons against” something. At this sort of level, with dozens upon dozens of minor arguments, each individual point on the list may only be a single sentence or two, and many may be a repeat or vague re-wording of a previous one. This is the intention: although it is trivial amount of effort on the part of the galloper to make a point, particularly if they just need to re-iterate an existing one a different way, a refutation may take much longer and someone addressing will be unable to refute all points in a similarly short order. If even one argument in a Gish Gallop is left standing at the end, or addressed insufficiently, the galloper will attempt to claim victory.

    The term was coined by Eugenie Scott of the National Center for Science Education, named after creationist Duane Gish.[1] Creationists are fond of it; see “101 evidences for a young age of the Earth and the universe” for example, which is perhaps the most stunning case. Sam Harris describes the technique as “starting 10 fires in 10 minutes.”

  • Justthefacts

    You post is a cut and paste lie. That was for the one year of 2008. There has not been a correction before or since. That is called cherry picking.

  • Justthefacts

    You have done the same. I will join you in a complaint.

  • Justthefacts

    And here is your post I’ll send into the Mods:

    nworder

    I LOVE CUT AND PASTE KNOWLEDGE – IT IS A TROLL KILLER – I will keep doing it every time you post.

    Your masters dont like anti vaccine posts all over the internet – you will be fired – lol

  • nworder

    I did not post the same mindless article over and over to crowd out the site as you were trying to do in defeat –
    you know – burst the ball when you are losing .

  • nworder

    The vactruth moderators will know how to recognise a pharma stooge like yourself – who is paid money to crowd out the site and slander victims of vaccination.

  • suz norkan

    Justaflunk is an unsophisticated [yet arrogant] stooge.

    He’s unable to ‘make it’ ‘debating it’, so he cries like a, child, stalks and harasses his rivals with ‘mass quantities’ of LYING SPAM, without a care of selfishly disrupting the discussion for interested readers & genuine respondants!

    If you happen to be on one of ‘his playgrounds’, the mods may prejudicially censor you, while he continues to stalk other adversaries with his excessive, trolling spam. It’s easily proved by viewing the history in his profile.

    I’ve flagged many of his comments here. Good luck nworder. Let’s hope the mods are paying attention, so that our little ‘flunkie’ can be directed to the proper toddlers playground!

  • nworder

    His posts are stupid and easily debunked but he was coming out with that page over and over to crowd the site
    If more people flagged him it would clear the debates.

  • AutismDad

    Translation: bbbrrraaatt bbrrraattt braaatt

  • AutismDad

    Its spelled GoFundleMe

  • Capt Ron

    GBS afflicts about one person in 100,000 and most of the cases seen cannot be correlated with a recent vaccination. Scary? NO. I invite you to contrast that with the incidence of side effects seen in the many vaccine PREVENTABLE infectious diseases.

  • Justthefacts

    You posted the same cut and paste on inserts five times and I numbered them in my replies. Are you crying now because I did the same to you?
    .
    Instead, why don’t you engage in conversation and reply to posters based on their post and the subject? If you don’t have a reply, then don’t reply. Posting unrelated long cut and pastes is trolling and you admitted how much you like to do it. That is what you do in defeat.

  • Justthefacts

    Insults and claims you have no evidence for. Why should you be any different now than when you started to harass me.

  • Capt Ron

    A couple of comments…

    > 1950s & 1960s?
    ADHD wasn’t even a recognized diagnosis until 1968

  • nworder

    Non of my posts is unrelated to the vaccine scam – nor are they long – they are scientific or medical articles.

    Your posts are irrelevant character assassinations of bereaved parents – which is what you do

  • Mike Stevens

    Ludicrous antivax logic – If a baby is vaccinated and then is killed in a car crash, that means the vaccine killed him.

  • suz norkan

    I absolutely agree. Thank you, nworder!

  • Capt Ron

    Interesting that you bring up the drop in SIDS rates and Australia…. There’s a statistical analysis of the significant results of couple of Australian SIDS reduction campaigns over the past about 20 years. The programs are “SIDS & Kids” & “Safe Sleeping.” Take a look these links at http://www.sidsandkids.org :

    http://www.sidsandkids.org/wp-content/uploads/finalsidspaper2003_002.pdf

    http://www.sidsandkids.org/wp-content/uploads/SIDS_Australia_Rates-1989-to-date-with-RTR-initiative-markers.pdf

    http://www.sidsandkids.org/wp-content/uploads/SIDS067-D-2015-Fast-Facts-Document-Updateweb2.pdf

    Neither one of these programs involves reduction of vaccinations. You have presented an erroneous correlation (again). The success of these programs relies on these measures:

    1. Sleep baby on the back from birth, not on the tummy or side.
    2. Sleep baby with head and face uncovered.
    3. Keep baby smoke free before birth and after.
    4. Provide a safe sleeping environment night and day.
    5. Sleep baby in their own safe sleeping place in the same room as an adult caregiver for the first six to twelve months.
    6. Breastfeed baby.

  • Capt Ron

    Please document that killed viruses, attenuated viruses and viral fragments are a SIGNIFICANT THREAT to human life. REAL virus infections that can be 60-99% prevented with vaccines are the REAL THREAT.

  • Justthefacts

    I proposed they where good parents that took care of their child. you proposed that the child was sick after the vaccination and did nothing about it. You claimed they were bad parents.

  • nworder

    You know I never said that – you made this filthy lie up
    I supported this poor mother who was duped by the doctors. These lies will catch up with you.

  • Justthefacts

    Then what is your answer? was the baby healthy those five days until it died or was it sick and the mother did nothing?

  • Justthefacts

    Poster Suz Norkan has at least two Disqus accounts and also posts as suznorkan, Licha Hericane, Evie Saleegents and “guest” so she can insult and troll under different names. She has been banned from at least three websites for poor behavior. That is mostly what she does and all she does on-line.

  • GoFundMe

    Very descriptive, eggman. Obviously this book you have but cannot tell us the name or author of constitutes absolute proof that vaccines are evil.
    I have a whole wall full of books with pictures of children suffering and dying from vaccine-preventable diseases. I would say that trumps your one little book any day of the week.

  • GoFundMe

    Making things up, again?

  • GoFundMe

    Well you certainly have convinced all of us of your superior intelligence with your completely off-the-wall posts.

  • nworder

    I am sure that an upstanding (sorry liar) man like yourself would not use other troll names. I have got two names isn’t that awful.
    But I dont believe anything you say and you should be the one banned.

  • suz norkan

    Justaflunkie is a stalking, harassing troll, who follows the comments of his rivals, to inject lying spam because he lacks the intellect to win arguments, otherwise.

    He is a liar with numerous accounts who’s been banned frequently from varied sites due to spamming and disrupting the discussion!

    His copy/paste trolling and spamming should be deleted by fair and diligent mods, in order to keep the discussion free from off topic spam. ‘That is mostly what he does and all he does on-line! ;)

    My comments remain appropriate to the subject or are in reply to other respondents!

    Your stalking skills are slipping flunkie. Ya missed a bunch of my comments. C’est la vie!

  • Justthefacts

    It’s not a surprise you have a sockpuppet account since you like to cut-and-paste gish gallop anyone you don’t like instead on entering direct dialog where you would loose. You probably have more troll techniques to throw out with your two accounts to avoid the truth when it is in front of you.
    You can’t reply to a direct question, can you? You know that there where no symptoms at all until the child died and that means it’s not vaccine related. Sometimes you are wrong and you are wrong now.
    The best part is that you are all hurt because you couldn’t gish gallop another rational person away. Boo Hoo for You.

  • Justthefacts

    What are the special symptoms described for this child? He had a welt at the injection site. That’s the only symptom stated and none were enough to call the doctor over. Please explain how this is similar to “blood and clear liquid oozing from sores all over his body.”?
    Honest question. There are no classic symptoms mentioned in this case.

  • KiddleeDivey

    Malevolent thing to say. I am sure you can read better than you seem to. I would have been alarmed at all of the described symptoms, especially when taken together.

  • Cricket

    Ignore GoFundMe, he is a newbie troll with only 17 comments.

  • Cricket

    Did you catch what Justthetroll said to you below? “It makes it easier for me”… hmmm, makes what easier, his job here as a shill?

  • Cricket

    Good to see you, too, Free People :o) Yes, it has been a long time! Thanks to you I’ve come a long way in recognizing trolls/shills a lot quicker now, lol!

  • Cricket

    Yes, my family member is taking this very seriously, thank you. And you are so correct in stating “same protocol” when it comes to pets. It’s no different and both agendas are criminal to say the very least!

  • Gern Blanston

    It’s difficult to believe that anyone could be as ignorant as you people. Vaccines have saved countless millions of lives over the the decades, arguably even billions. Your understanding of scientific analysis and objective critique are infantile, and your advocacy to end vaccines endangers millions. Stop.

  • Free People

    I’m so sorry for what you and your little one have gone through. Luckily he survived and hopefully, in time he will continue to improve. Many real doctors are finding treatments to reverse many vaccine induced illnesses, and they continue to work to find many more ways to reverse all these incredible vaccine damages VaxINC diabolically pushes on the innocent, for profit and greed.

    Blessings to you and yours.

  • Free People

    Yup, he obviously failed at the Shillivesity.

  • Capt Ron

    FYI – Your comments are a lost cause – These are “True Believers” in the threat of EVIL vaccines. No amount of scientific evidence or application of reason & logic will sway the vast majority here!

  • Free People

    Haha – Yes, Agree!

  • Justthefacts

    I just reread the article. The symptoms stated was the welt on the leg which is typical and crying and listlessness that was not significant enough to call a doctor.
    What are the other symptoms in this case? I don’t see them in this article.

  • Free People

    Hah! I can see that – Good Job Cricket.

  • Free People

    There is NO REAL SCIENTIFIC DATA WHATSOEVER and there never has been. It’s always been about the Foxes guarding the hen hou$e ‘data’ they want the sheeple to believe. Pure LIE$$$. Jenner did it, Sabin did it, the ALL do it. Profit on LIE$$$.

  • Andrew Kasch

    The words of a true paranoid.

    Jonas Salk – one of the most important vaccine researchers in history – gave away his vaccines and saved countless children’s lives. So your argument is invalid.

    Keep sucking down your placebos and pretending they’re better for you than actual scientifically proven medicine.

  • Free People

    The Human Genome Project debunked your ‘bad genetics’ propaganda. After 10 years of attempting to prove it’s the ‘bad genes’, the quackscentist$$$ were scratching their horns raw with disappointment. Crushing blow. Failed!

    You take the polio vaccine and deliberately lace it with Simian Green Monkey cancer cells SV40 now up to SV59, plus other vaccines with cancer cells, INJECT worldwide populations with this diabolical CONcoction and 50 years later we have a cancer epidemic worldwide.and SV59 being detected in hundreds of thousands of cancer patients, Too much common sense for a lowly troll to deal with.

  • Nope. I have MUCH more:

    Paul Offit-The Real Truth
    http://www.vacfacts.info/paul-offit—the-real-truth.html

    Why Do Vaccine-Pushers Chicken-out of Debates about Vaccines? (Paul Offit chickens of the debate)
    Catherine J. Frompovich
    http://www.activistpost.com/2015/04/why-do-vaccine-pushers-chicken-out-of.html

    You see, Offit can not handle a debate where all the information is not monopoly controlled, and thus in total favor of the pro-vaccine side, and resulting again in only a one sided story being told.

    Dr. Paul Offit’s Aluminum Deceptions and Academic Misconduct (one very important article, to read)
    http://vaccinepapers.org/dr-paul-offits-aluminum-deceptions-academic-misconduct/

    The Defense of Aluminum Adjuvant, Debunked
    http://vaccinepapers.org/rigorous-defense-al-adjuvant-wrong/

    Part 1: Immune Activation and Autism
    http://vaccinepapers.org/rigorous-defense-al-adjuvant-wrong/

    See all posts on Immune Activation

    Part 1: Immune Activation and Autism
    Part 2: Interleukin-6 and Autism
    Part 3: Monkey Experiments
    Part 4: (Coming Soon) Prenatal vs. Postnatal Immune Activation

    http://vaccinepapers.org/immune-activation/

    Scientific Papers Library
    Immune Activation
    http://vaccinepapers.org/scientific-papers-library/

    A More Rigorous Defense of Al Adjuvant, and Why it is Wrong
    http://vaccinepapers.org/rigorous-defense-al-adjuvant-wrong/

    VRM: The Problem With Vaccines Part 2 – Synergistic Effect of Heavy Metal Toxicity On The Body
    http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/?p=6097

    The Mechanisms of Vaccine Injury and Via Cytokine Storm
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-mechanisms-of-vaccine-injury-and-via-cytokine-storm.html

    Vaccination toxicity: The Zeta phase of MASS and “blood sludging”
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccination-toxicity-the-zeta-phase-of-mass-and-ldquoblood-sludgingrdquo.html

    Vaccine aluminum adjuvant causation of neuroglial activation and neuroinflammation in the brain of patients with autism.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-aluminum-adjuvant-causation-of-neuroglial-activation-and-neuroinflammation-in-the-brain-of-patients-with-autism.html

    Page two of the studies:
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-aluminum-adjuvant-causation-of-neuroglial-activation-and-neuroinflammation-in-the-brain-of-patients-with-autism–page-2.html

    Aluminum Adjuvants – Lack of Safety Data – Lack of Aluminum Adjuvant Safety Studies (Read about the determination of aluminum considered by the FDA as GRAS, generally regarded as safe, thus requiring no safety studies to be done, and for over 80 years now, this has gone on).
    http://www.vacfacts.info/aluminum-vaccine-adjuvants.html

    Dr Suzanne Humphries. Aluminum is toxic to all life forms: The case against aluminum in vaccines.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZe99K12740

  • Go post your denial filled comments on a website article where the readers are remaining actually that ignorant.

  • Obviously you do not understand that vaccines are soft kill. It takes time to work the processes that occur. Your physiological understanding of this is yet in the dark ages, and you simply make it up as you go.

    Falsely Acussed shaken baby syndrome, and vaccine caused SIDS
    http://www.vacfacts.info/falsely-accused-shaken-baby-syndrome.html

    The Mechanisms of Vaccine Injury and Via Cytokine Storm
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-mechanisms-of-vaccine-injury-and-via-cytokine-storm.html

    The Mechanisms of Vaccine Injury and Via Cytokine Storm
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-mechanisms-of-vaccine-injury-and-via-cytokine-storm.html

    Dr. Andrew Moulden: Finds “Every Vaccine Causes Harm”, then Dies Suspiciously
    https://www.endalldisease.com/dr-andrew-moulden-found-every-vaccine-causes-harm-then-died-suspiciously/

    Dr. Andrew Moulden: Learning to Identify Vaccine Damage
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/dr-andrew-moulden-learning-to-identify-vaccine-damage/

    Dr. Andrew Moulden getting the message of truth out to people about the extreme corporate corruption of Health Canada, the FDA, and other corporate controlled medical care entities that are, in fact, destroying peoples health with vaccines and other chemical pharmaceutical drugs.
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbo5vf_health-canada-corruption-dr-andrew_news

  • Irrational means reply posting here while still in the mode of denial and in refusing to face the facts, and to accept any unbiased independent research.

  • Gish gallop? LOL! I find it preposterous and hypocritical that you in denial pro-vaccine people are in fact experts at promoting exactly the same thing that you accuse of.

  • This is one of the most informative articles ever written as to the true and historically recorded data and record, in regard to the polio vaccine.

    The polio vaccine: a critical assessment of its arcane history, efficacy, and long-term health-related consequences
    http://www.thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf .

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign
    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

    Do you think this was a good thing? now we will never on planet earth be rid of the cancer causing SV40 virus.

    Simian virus 40 in humans

    To date, the prevalence of SV40 infections in humans is not known. Recent studies, based on PCR and serological techniques, indicate that SV40 infection occurs both in children and adults. (i) SV40 DNA sequences have been detected in normal and neoplastic tissues of people either too young (1 to 30 years) or too old (60 to 85 years) to have been vaccinated with SV40-contaminated anti-polio vaccines [19,33,76-81]. This finding may also explain the lack of difference in cancer incidence between individuals vaccinated with SV40-contaminated and SV40-free anti-polio vaccines [82]. (ii) SV40 sequences and Tag were detected in blood and sperm specimens from normal individuals and oncologic patients [80,81,83-88] and in lymphoblastoid cells [32]. These results suggest that (peripheral blood mononuclear cells) PBMCs, could be a reservoir and vehicle of SV40 spreading in the tissues of the host and among the individuals. (iii) SV40 sequences were found in urine and stoole samples, from children and adults [84,89,90], indicating that the haematic, sexual and orofecal routes of transmission are likely to be responsible for SV40 horizontal infection in humans.

    Read MORE:
    http://www.infectagentscancer.com/content/2/1/13

    Advances in Virus Research, Volume 50

    Pages 83 and 84, read. (Also see the study titled, Simian virus 40 in humans, below on this page)

    Excerpted:

    Moreover, blood and sperm fluid may represent important means for spreading of SV40 in humans.

    Indeed in these investigations, (Martini etal;, 1995,1996) 61% of the neoplastic patients positive for SV 40 sequences were of an age excluding exposure to SV 40-contaminated polio vaccines, suggesting contagious transmission of SV 40 by horizontal infection.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=PfO7D8ZoSMkC&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=sv40+is+contagious&source=bl&ots=AlaWsAkp95&sig=RnycQFX2ucD-3zybHQ07FAIeJYk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=kZLfT5_mA4qc2QXKz6jtCA&ved=0CFoQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=sv40%20is%20contagious&f=false

    Scientific proof that the known cancer causing SV40 virus, a previous contaminant in the polio vaccine, is obviously either contagious; or the virus is still in the vaccine/s.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/scientific-proof-that-the-known-cancer-causing-sv40-virus-a-previous-contaminant-in-the-polio-vaccine-is-obviously-either-contagious-or-the-virus-is-still-in-the-vaccines.html

  • All the CDC and WHO have for statistics is based on no evidence for the numbers stated, and an assumption that correlation equals causation in regard to so called eradication, face it. We need to go to the true historical record and data recorded by those that lived at the time, which they have ignored.

  • CDC Removes Webpage About Polio Vaccine Contamination: Further Admission Of Guilt?
    http://www.medicaldaily.com/cdc-removes-webpage-about-polio-vaccine-contamination-further-admission-guilt-249339

    CDC ‘Disappears’ Page Linking Polio Vaccines To Cancer-Causing Viruses
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/cdc-disappears%E2%80%99-page-linking-polio-vaccines-cancer-causing-viruses1

  • Your selective intellectual dishonesty and cognitive dissonance is so evident in your refusal to face the evidence of facts, that it is pathetic. Nothing is enough and nor will it ever be. You know that. You must continue to deny it all.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_honesty

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

  • Andrew Lazarus

    tl;dr
    Another dump, instead of answering why we should prefer 50,000 cases of wild polio to 1,300 cases (latterly, more like 0 or 1) of vaccine-induced polio. SV-40 is a distraction from the unanswerability of this question.

  • Justthefacts

    http://www.vacfacts.info/falsely-accused-shaken-baby-syndrome.html
    This link and the links it contained identifies no symptoms. I asked about the symptoms.

    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-mechanisms-of-vaccine-injury-and-via-cytokine-storm.html
    The “Cytokine storm” has symptoms that are mainly inflammations that are detectable at the time and after death. There was no inflammations noted in this case.

    https://www.endalldisease.com/dr-andrew-moulden-found-every-vaccine-causes-harm-then-died-suspiciously/
    This link contains no discussion of symptoms at all.

    http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/dr-andrew-moulden-learning-to-identify-vaccine-damage/
    This link discussed Gardasil Silent MASS Ischema symptoms and videos describing symptoms. None of the symptoms described occurred in this case.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbo5vf_health-canada-corruption-dr-andrew_news
    This link did not discuss symptoms at all.

    The case described in the article does not fit any symptom list resulting in death in five days, Please find a link that is relevant to the symptoms described in this case.

  • Cricket

    Ty, Free People ;o)

  • Justthefacts

    Irrational is ignoring my points. There where no symptoms leading to death. Name the vaccine reaction that has no symptoms and causes death with no evidence after death.
    .
    Irrational people ignore this.
    .
    The baby died sleeping on the mothers chest, face down, which is know to cause SIDS. Why is this less likely that vaccines.
    .
    Irrational people ignore this.
    .
    Address these questions directly and just don’t post random anti-vaxx links and I’ll believe you are rational enough to have a conversations.

  • Justthefacts

    No one wants to have a rational discussion and all nworder wants to do is post random unrelated gish gollop. If that is all anyone is capable of, then that’s what we’ll do.
    If you are ready to talk directly about the symptoms and facts in this particular case, lets start.

  • Justthefacts

    Prove you are right. Engage me in a direct discussion of how this particular case can be a vaccine injury with no symptoms before or after death. I am ready.

    If you don’t, then you are the one being intellectual dishonesty and avoiding the facts to avoid cognitive dissonance with yourself. I am ready to talk the points OF THIS CASE right now.

  • TellItAsIs99

    Parents should not be coerced into injecting dangerous and controversial vaccines into their children by being prevented from enrolling their kids into tax payer funded schools. If Calif. SB277 passes there will be law suits against the State and school districts and that legal fight could go all the way to the Supreme Court.
    Some vaccines shots contain toxic mercury and many vaccines contain toxic adjuvants such as aluminum to stimulate immune reaction. Vaccine Supporters also fail to mention that because of better sanitation, hygiene and hospital care that deaths from infectious diseases all but disappeared before the first vaccine was given in 1963. Supporters also do not mention that vaccines rates were well under 90%, the so called herd immunity minimum rate, in many parts of the country in the 1960s to 80s without any major outbreaks of diseases that the vaccines are claimed to protect against.
    Big pharma funded test trials and financing to politicians, the FDA and medical advisory committees have created just another marketing group. Vaccines are not guaranteed to be either safe or effective and vaccine companies are protected from law suits by the 1986 Vaccine Injury Act. They know their vaccines cause harm and even death but don’t know which children are at risk; see the HRSA vaccine injury table list.
    A well nourished child with a healthy immune system will fight off most infectious diseases and in the rare case of measles the child will have life-time immunity after recovery without taking the risk of toxic vaccines some of which require later booster shots. Vaccines are
    a decision that must remain with the parents.
    Big pharma interests have also lead to other controversial deadly treatments drugs. The highly deadly mandatory clot-buster TPA drug given in the ER for a non-life threathening moderate ischemic stroke has a history of deadly failed test trials and controversial if any benefit modest benefit. Search: AAEM TPA position, The NNT TPA stroke, or in ER emergency blogs or http://www.stroketreatmentrisktpa.co.nf for the stroke TPA drug controversy.

  • Free People

    I’m glad to hear your family member is taking it seriously because it’s a
    deadly serious matter. Good for you! You’re absolutely right “it’s no different”
    regards the pets. I take laminated cards (home made) to ‘dog parks’ and hand out the links below to help pets. Paul Revere style..lol…

    If this is what they are doing to the people with vaccines, what can a
    thinking person assume they’re doing to the animals (pets) with vaccines. The
    filth that goes into animal vaccines is probably 100 times worse than the filth
    in human vaccines. It’s no wonder everybody with a pet has astronomical Vet
    bills…that’s the whole point of vaccines – to create permanently sick
    customers with permanent new diseases and illnesses, like we now have, all
    caused by deadly vaccinations.

    So now they inject cats in a hind leg for their own SINISTER reasons. Now
    isn’t it considerate of the Vetquacks to come to the CONclusion that “amputation
    of a hind limb in an animal such as a cat that can do ‘very well with 3 limbs’
    is an IDEAL situation”..THEIR ideal “solution” to vaccine induced cancer, is
    supposed to sit well with normal people? No! Truth is, this is ideal for them,
    so they can continue pushing their unnecessary deadly vaccines on animals
    regardless, and collect their big bonus. The ideal situation here
    is for pHARMafia ($$) and QuackVets ($$), NOT for the cat nor its owner!

    Pets are suffering too, due to vaccinosis. A
    google search on ‘pet vaccination dangers’ will return tens of thousands of
    links on this topic. Actually, most veterinarians are NOT following the
    guidelines of their OWN professional literature on vaccines because they are
    money makers, and just like in humans, create all sorts of serious diseases,
    compromized immune systems, cancers, even death. Vaccines are the gift that
    keeps on giving for the medical mafia. Even so-called ‘holistic’ vets continue
    over-vaccinating people’s pets, all for the money vaccines generate. Cats should
    never be vaccinated for anything (it’s in their manual!) They are born with
    rabies titers already! It’s in their OWN manual!

    http://vitalanimal.com

    http://www.drpitcairn.com

    http://www.stoptheshots.com

    Great site to obtain excellent products for pets- real medicine vs the
    alternative allopathetic pHARMafia – holistic animal sanctuary.

    http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/defaq.html

  • Andrew Kasch

    Are you for real? Do you have any idea how insane you sound? There’s nothing I can say to the kind of crackpot nonsense you’re spouting. You probably believe 9/11 was a controlled demolition, the moon landing was fake, and that the Holocaust never happened.

    Too bad you never read Francis Collins’ book. He was the founder of the Human Genome Project and he absolutely equates genetics as a factor in several cancers. Your knowledge of science and biology is about as pathetic as a 17th century witch doctor.

  • cdk

    No you don’t understand. Any PCP will tell you if you have a problem with a medication to get the INSERT from the pharmacy. Yes you can read it and will be able to understand it – it will tell you adverse affects and the percentages. That’s in english and easy to understand. If you never got an insert because you think you can’t read it, you are more than uneducated. You are fearful of what is in there. #DumbAss Typical. I’ll bet you call your insurance company every time you see a commercial for something that may be covered under your policy. #TheyreAllGonnaLaughAtYou

  • Cricket

    Thank you, Lowell, for all the info and links, much appreciated!

  • Cricket

    Very true, but this does not apply to shills and trolls like Justthefacts. They are only “hired” and here for one purpose and that is to discredit the truth we are posting about vaccines by distracting undecideds with their bullsh*t.

  • More vaccines lies, and more vaccine lies.

    Laura Hayes NO ON SB277 speech Sacramento at The Capitol on April 8, 2015
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WWEiEPUWSU

  • The selective level of ignorance existing, is clearly your own, Gern Blanston!!!! But, just keep on believing all the the pro-vaccine BS, misinformation, and the safe and effective lies, that they fed you.

  • How endlessly LONG is your sick arse list of excuses for the denial of any and all vaccine reality?

    1. Identifies no symptoms? Those symptoms and much more are clearly identified and described on every front. Your lying.

    2. There were no so called inflammations, BECAUSE they did not look. Cytokine storm due to natural pathogens is clearly identified as real in the literature, if you look. Vaccine causation is obviously, no different.

    3. The link does not delve into specifics as those can be found elsewhere, it simply gives the details of Dr Moulden’s live experience and work regarding vaccine injury. To make it more real; get it?

    4. None of the symptoms described occurred in the case? Perhaps again that is because obviously no one had been looking, and nor did anyone handling the case even have any knowledge of this. How foolish in your blindness to fact and reality can you get?

    5. Obviously you failed to review that video in any honesty, and to realize the reality of the situation it presents with and as it exists. All the information ties together, and obviously that is something which you refuse to do on any level.

    If all of humanity is to and remains as selectively ignorant and as in denial as you are, certainly there will be no learned answers to any of this situation; and that is the way you want it to remain.

  • Of course they are. No human being could be that ignorant and nor that far into denial, unless they either had vested interests in vaccines, worked in a related to vaccines must remain in denial career; or unless they were paid off to do the deliberate denial of the facts and reality that they continue to do.

  • Your reply posts only being replied to, if they have something in them that I decide, (and not you); that there is something in them worth, replying to.

    There clearly were symptoms, and which followed the typically found adverse vaccine reaction scenario. Obviously this was a very fast moving case in and as to its outcome, and as to the timeline. That, do to the large number of, and even inappropriately given number of vaccines. Wake up.

  • The information you asked for is already here, and as to how vaccines cause SIDS. You refuse that information. That happens by physiological and multi-system failure, but mostly what takes place in the end is a shut down of oxygen in the brain stem, due to the cytokine storm taking place and as well blood sledging due to aluminum adjuvants that were injected. Its called in its final phase, ischemia/hypoxia in the brain stem. Go ahead and explain and present with all the other reasons that you think this child died? You have nothing, but you are just so sure it was not vaccines; because big pharma and the CDC said that it does not happen. And what do they have to lose if proven it was the vaccines?

  • Non foolish, non-biased, and non in denial people; may find these links of information helpful.

    The polio vaccine: a critical assessment of its arcane history, efficacy,
    and long-term health-related consequences
    http://www.thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf

    The Poison Cause of Poliomyelitis And Obstructions To Its Investigation
    http://www.whale.to/a/scobey2.html#82

    Polio and DDT
    http://www.whale.to/vaccine/polio_ddt_h.html

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign
    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

    Advances in Virus Research, Volume 50

    Pages 83 and 84, read. (Also see the study titled, Simian virus 40 in humans, below on this page)

    Excerpted:

    Moreover, blood and sperm fluid may represent important means for spreading of SV40 in humans.

    Indeed in these investigations, (Martini etal;, 1995,1996) 61% of the neoplastic patients positive for SV 40 sequences were of an age excluding exposure to SV 40-contaminated polio vaccines, suggesting contagious transmission of SV 40 by horizontal infection.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=PfO7D8ZoSMkC&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=sv40+is+contagious&source=bl&ots=AlaWsAkp95&sig=RnycQFX2ucD-3zybHQ07FAIeJYk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=kZLfT5_mA4qc2QXKz6jtCA&ved=0CFoQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=sv40%20is%20contagious&f=false

    Simian virus 40 in humans

    To date, the prevalence of SV40 infections in humans is not known. Recent studies, based on PCR and serological techniques, indicate that SV40 infection occurs both in children and adults. (i) SV40 DNA sequences have been detected in normal and neoplastic tissues of people either too young (1 to 30 years) or too old (60 to 85 years) to have been vaccinated with SV40-contaminated anti-polio vaccines [19,33,76-81]. This finding may also explain the lack of difference in cancer incidence between individuals vaccinated with SV40-contaminated and SV40-free anti-polio vaccines [82]. (ii) SV40 sequences and Tag were detected in blood and sperm specimens from normal individuals and oncologic patients [80,81,83-88] and in lymphoblastoid cells [32]. These results suggest that (peripheral blood mononuclear cells) PBMCs, could be a reservoir and vehicle of SV40 spreading in the tissues of the host and among the individuals. (iii) SV40 sequences were found in urine and stoole samples, from children and adults [84,89,90], indicating that the haematic, sexual and orofecal routes of transmission are likely to be responsible for SV40 horizontal infection in humans.

    Read more:
    http://www.infectagentscancer.com/content/2/1/13

    What does that mean? That means that the tumor and cancer causing SV40 virus injected into millions of unsuspecting citizens by use of the early polio vaccine, will now likely be with us, forever.

    Scientific proof that the known cancer causing SV40 virus, a previous contaminant in the polio vaccine, is obviously either contagious; or the virus is still in the vaccine/s.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/scientific-proof-that-the-known-cancer-causing-sv40-virus-a-previous-contaminant-in-the-polio-vaccine-is-obviously-either-contagious-or-the-virus-is-still-in-the-vaccines.html

  • Why …not?

  • Oh, I see, your getting pretty feisty in your continued and insistent denial, eehh?

    There WERE initial symptoms, (do not deny that), and they followed exactly what has been known in past cases of so called SIDS, after vaccination. However, this was a very fast moving case beginning to end, due to the number of vaccines given and as well incorrectly given vaccines.

    You are obviously unable to talk the facts of this case, because you refuse to see and acknowledge the facts.

  • Its interesting that you had to wear sunglasses and use a profile without any real identity, to make your reply posts here. Go ahead and use a real facebook profile, like I do. Your nonsense and your gutless lack of any credibility here, really …stinks.

  • Andrew Lazarus

    Hunh? All the posters here (on both sides!) who post under totally untraceable pseudonyms, and you complain I don’t connect to Facebook?!

  • How many have you posted?

  • It doesn’t have to. You refuse to discuss in any honesty the issues of this article, so he as well took it to another and the next level of understanding of the vaccine harm being done.

    Read what is on this page for directly related information.

    More Vaccine Reality!
    http://www.vacfacts.info/more-vaccine-reality.html

    Or do I need to except, and copy and paste it all in front of you?

  • Wakefield committed no fraud, and obviously none was intended. What they claim to and what has been proven were entirely different findings.

    How about all these studies that support and replicate Wakefields findings? Aren”t you just a little behind on the research? Oh thats right, you just believed everything and the misinformation that they fed you, and then you just re-parroted it, and the very same thing. Right?

    Research References
    http://www.callous-disregard.com/research.htm

    What about all the children that have now recovered through proper biomedical treatment? In your mind and but of course that did not ever happen?

    But of course to admit that this is happening, would be to admit that vaccines were obviously the cause. So, in your denial, instead you just leave 100’s if not thousands more families with vaccine injured children to suffer with no help; and just because you must continue to refuse to believe that vaccines were the cause. Just because you must deny it all.

    Healing the Symptoms Known as Autism

    In 3 years, 115 children previously diagnosed with regressive autism were able to shed their diagnosis, their symptoms and return to an overall state of health and vitality. If you have any interest in finding out how they were able to heal you need to read this book. Kerri has a heart for children with autism, and she cares greatly about recommending safe, economical interventions that are helping to confront an epidemic.

    http://www.healingthesymptomsknownasautism.com/

    Biomedical Treatment in Autism (ASD)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/biomedical-treatment-in-autism-asd.html

  • Mr Barber? Would you care to actually debate the subject matter, or is your mental capacity only capable of only the throwing of hateful and bratty child like insults, at it all?

  • No, Louis Pasteur was actually the plagiarist, and the liar. Bechamp had it, right.

    The False Foundations of Modern Medicine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-foundations-of-modern-medicine.html

    Don’t as well be accepting and reading the works of Paul Offit and CHOP then; nor that of Pediatrics; because YOU didn’t do the work.

  • That is nothing but a load of nonsensical rants which are a waste of anyones time to read.

  • The SIDS rate is the same for vaccinated and unvaccinated babies? How in denial and beyond selectively ignorant, was that statement? Keep drinking that CDC and Pediatrics, Koolaid. Your denial of all is just sickening.

    This next video is all to often typical scenario. View it.

    Are vaccines to blame for infant deaths?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgSrEzkFGyg

    Brain Damage/Death from Vaccines is NOT Rare
    http://vaccine-injury.info/index.cfm

    Falsely Accused Shaken Baby Syndrome, (and vaccine caused SIDS)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/falsely-accused-shaken-baby-syndrome.html

  • The difference is that homeopathic and naturopathic means actually work and are not harming people, like big pharma is. Naturopathic means get to the real basics of causation and have no vested interests in covering anything up.

    Death By Medicine (look at the studies, modern medicine was determined to be the leading cause of death, over that of the numbers for heart disease and cancer, with a resulting near to a million deaths per year)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/death-by-medicine.html

  • Quit saying, Gish Gallop. Obviously the scope of your use of vocabulary here, is very small. The only desperate attempts made here are obviously your own.

  • And is that a biased Pediatrics study; you know the same source that produced a study showing that the Thimerosal (mercury) injected in vaccines was shown to be good for kids, and improved their test scores?

  • Just admit it, vaccines are a disaster and they are becoming an increasing disaster! And stop quoting your biased studies from Pediatrics, which that source knows that have every to lose, the vaccine truth be known.

    Silent Epidemic; The Untold Story of Vaccines – Movie – directed by Gary Null
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJGyN3gCsBg

  • None of those studies actually look at the current CDC vaccine schedule. None of those studies look at vaccinated verses entirely un-vaccinated. Most of the studies only look at one single vaccine and come from obviously biased sources which have vested interests in vaccines.

    None of those studies ever looked at giving from 5 to up to 9 vaccines or more in a single day and office visit, to an infant and/or small child.

    How actually narrow minded, misguided, and entirely foolish are you?

    Silent Epidemic; The Untold Story of Vaccines – Movie
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJGyN3gCsBg

  • Cricket

    Exactly. It speaks volumes about a person who intentionally seeks employment as a shameless pharma shill.

  • Your logic is only seen as flawless, in your own very twisted mind.

    Plenty of evidence was there as it all followed the typical scenario that has been reported repeatedly before. The only difference in this case was that it all moved toward death very fast due to the number of vaccines given and as well in the use of an inappropriately given vaccine which was doubled up on, and that vaccine just happened to be one of the most known problematic and deadly vaccines of all.

  • Thats right, no facts there; you have among you just loads and loads of sheeple and those with vested interests that are just as mislead, and that choose to remain just as mislead as you are.

  • I’m really tired of your twisted rants and ramblings, Justnofactsatall!

    Coincidentally the US is also one of the most highly vaccinated for numbers and doses.

    Graph of the day: The United States has a really high infant mortality rate
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/09/graph-of-the-day-the-united-states-has-a-really-high-infant-mortality-rate/

    Infant Death Rate: U.S. Falls Behind 68 Countries, According To Save The Children
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/08/infant-death-rate-in-us_n_3237776.html

    WHAT’S BEHIND THE HIGH U.S. INFANT MORTALITY RATE
    http://stanmed.stanford.edu/2013fall/article2.html

    U.S. has highest first-day infant mortality out of industrialized world, group reports (coincidentally most infants as well get the Hep B vaccine within those first 24 hours)
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-has-highest-first-day-infant-mortality-out-of-industrialized-world-group-reports/

    Multiple Infant Vaccines Linked To Dramatically Increased Mortality
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/multiple-infant-vaccines-linked-dramatically-increased-mortality

    Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity?

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/
    http://het.sagepub.com/…/early/2011/05/04/0960327111407644​

  • You know those citations are not or no longer available for the average reading viewer here to access. If you can show otherwise, then go ahead and provide the access links.

    No study can conclusively and directly show that vaccines killed an infant or a particular infant, unless you have the body before you and can show internally how that happened. They simply do not have the physiologically adequate understanding and nor the imaging tools needed; and that as well, after the death of an infant or child.

    In the case of falsely accused shaken baby syndrome, pathology reports have conclusively shown that the cause of death was obviously vaccines. Why has the CDC ignored those findings? Do you actually think that the CDC and Pediatrics want to know the truth; or have they actively made an effort to ignore the truth?

    Falsely Accused Shaken Baby Syndrome, (and vaccine caused SIDS)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/falsely-accused-shaken-baby-syndrome.html

    Vaccination toxicity: The Zeta phase of MASS and “blood sludging”
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccination-toxicity-the-zeta-phase-of-mass-and-ldquoblood-sludgingrdquo.html

    09 Andrew Moulden En 07 de 11
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hUOVChsJ9w

    09 Andrew Moulden En 06 de 11
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58KLLm1q0_Y

    Tolerance Lost Vol 1/3 – 1 of 16 – Moulden (6 hrs of video)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZXM-TKvLN8

    Vaccine induced SBS, SIDS = Scurvy
    Sudden Deaths or Autism Soon After Vaccine(s) Administration?
    http://www.ra-infection-connection.com/Chvaccines.htm

    Vaccine-Induced Tissue Scurvy Globally Misdiagnosed as Child Abuse
    http://vactruth.com/2014/03/19/tissue-scurvy-not-child-abuse/

    Don’t be knocking the source; the source has obviously nothing to with the compilation of information.

    SIDS & vaccination citations
    http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sids.html

  • Just because there was apparently no VAERS report and no federal vaccine court case filed, it is thus determined as fraud? 1000’s of cases of vaccine injury and death are never filed with VAERS. Likewise 1000’s of cases as well obviously are never filed with the federal court for compensation. In fact it is well know that VAERS contains likely only 1 to 10% of all cases that could have been reported due to adverse vaccine reactions. That is as well because of their big pharma schooling brainwashed and political mindset of doctors that these adverse reactions and resulting deaths, simply do not happen. it always has to be something else, and of course which they never find.

    How can you think that parents with now full time care needed to be provided for a vaccine injured child and those with as well autism, should be expected to file a VAERS report and as well also file a case in federal court. It is a pretty simply world in your world; quite obviously.

    When over 9000 filed cases have been denied and a little more than 3000 cases paid at that federal vaccine court, then there as well is no much real hope and incentive to file. There as well are very restricted time lines to file, as much as restricted as to what can be filed for.

    Data & Statistics
    http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/data.html

    Congressional Briefing on the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4CwROrKG8A

    You know what? You have really wasted enough of our time here, with your endless nonsense.

  • SIDS is listed and there is no denying it, period.

  • How can any study prove that vaccines do not cause SIDS, when they do not know the cause of SIDS, but say they find and know that it is not caused by vaccines. Do they even know how to diagnose a SIDS death with a conclusion of actual causation? No. Do they have the physiological knowledge that they need and the imaging tools to find cause of death, and after death in the case of SIDS? No.

  • I am forced to accept that you wasted all of our time with and responding to your endless nonsense. I would not call that a win nor a surrender; other than in the refusal to waste any more time with it.

  • There was far more than a trace of evidence as to what happened, use you head and just end your refuse to see anything at all denial.

  • This character, he or she, will attack anything and anyone that they can, and to avoid a conclusion of a vaccine causation. Its a bit like a vicious dog gone mad.

  • So you dictate what can be reply posted on here? I see. You do not dictate, anything. Its getting nowhere with the SIDS issue, so why not put some more issues in front of you.

  • Again, none of those studies looked at giving multiple vaccines on the same day and office visit. And none have looked at vaccinated verses entirely unvaccinated outcomes.

  • Justthefacts

    In this particular case, no symptoms. read the article. All I’m talking about is this case. The medical examiner did not find any inflammation and the article says so.
    Go make your general case against vaccines elsewhere. I am talking about THIS CASE. You don’t want to face the facts of THIS CASE. THIS CASE is not vaccine caused. All of you links describe symptoms, not a single one describes death with NO SYMPTOMS.
    You don’t want to talk about this case so I don’t want to talk to you.

  • Justthefacts

    If there were symptoms, post them because they are not in the article. Are you saying that there were symptoms but the parents ignored them? Are you saying they where bad parents?

  • Justthefacts

    Nope. All I asked for is how vaccines cause this case of SIDS with NO SYMTOMS before or after death. Nobody, including you, have posted how that can happen.

  • Justthefacts

    what symptoms? Quote them from the article? And then explain how they where not significant enough for the parents to call the doctor.

  • Justthefacts

    those links and your links said nothing about SIDS with no symptoms. Not relevant to this case.
    If all you are going to do is make a general case against vaccines, where done. I am talking about THIS CASE.

  • Justthefacts

    Now you are gish galloping about vaccines unrelated to SIDS and this case just like the other nut.
    I’ll come back and gish gallop back tomorrow when I care.
    I really would like to discuss this case without a nut loosing their mind on unrelated vaccine issues.

  • eggman2

    I am not insulting you. I am just telling you the truth. I am like the minister of a church that calls his congregation sinners in order to save their souls. I call you stupid in order to save your body , and that of your children. So there you go: body and soul shall be saved if the words are heeded to.

  • eggman2

    This baby was sore and ill after the vaccines, then he died five days later. My baby was ill and sore on the same day of the vaccines, the next day he became unconscious, in the next few days his skin erupted into sores leaking blood and clear liquid. The doctor said that he was dying but not directly to me. He didn’t die, but his personality changed which is an indication of brain damage.

    What the hell more do you want ? The pay for a junk medicine robber barons’ propaganda prostitute must be really good for you to insist so much.

  • eggman2

    I also have pictures in my inherited book that show what could have happened to him, had he lived long. A little baby girl in England is shown in one of the pictures with the flesh of one of her legs ( where the vaccine was injected ) disintegrated from the putrefaction caused by the vaccine, and exposing her muscle tissues with the skin gone due to the disintegration.

    A friend of mine from Africa, who was a reporter there, says that she has seen how people limp for a lifetime from the leg where the vaccine was injected.

    There is no telling how my son would be right now, or if he would still be alive. I cut the progress of his vaccinian illness with an American Indian herb. But the guy that sold me that herb died at the age of 106 ( whereas most doctors die at the ripe old age of 52 ) , and the prostituted to the junk medicine robber barons FDA suppresses cures like that by saying that they are not scientific. So the herbs that are the real cure become scarce, and poisonous substances that cause illnesses become plentiful under the supervision of the FDA.

  • eggman2

    Thank you, and the same to you.

  • Oh yes, and that has been well known for years already now. The point and goal here is that they do not get away with the promotion of their repeat and parroted misinformation, and their vaccines are safe and effective, lies.

  • Mike Stevens

    Along with accidental drowning and motor vehicle accidents, sure!

  • nworder

    Its a vaccine mafia who actually control the government. At least the “old” mafia could not force you to take their drugs but the pharmafia actually can.

    Its a criminals dream come true .

  • In our early years and stages of this, we all thought that the doctors in white coats and with a stethoscope, just had to be well educated, right? Society must be able to give you everything you need to know, if you go to enough schooling, right? Most people like I did, thought that they just had to know everything there was to ever know about human health care.

    Investigate the basic principals and physiological understanding of health care differences between Antoine Bechamp, and Louis Pasteur. Yes, that is right, we still have the recorded differences available in reference from almost 100 years ago. That is if you care to find it and accept ti from the sources you are provided here.

    We were as well told that vaccines eradicated small pox and polio, so that just had to be good, right? How entirely wrong that mindset actually was, and while historically the true records recorded by those that lived at the time, showed an opposite finding and outcome.

    In later learning that in a year 2000 study, modern medicine and it protocols over-all were the 3rd leading cause of death. That study was published in the American Medical Association Journal, by Barbara Starfield. In a 2003 new study they re-looked at that data and with additional data, and modern so called medicine in that study, was determined to be the leading cause of death, over and above the numbers for heart disease and cancer. And they within that system of course, have rarely ever seen those studies, and most of the rest of their big pharma indoctrinated and doctoring lot; just simply refuse to believe in their errors and to understand their lack of any real understanding of physiological causation.

    When we learned that nearly 100 years ago the entire system of health care was hijacked by the Rockefeller family oil and rail money, and with help of their corrupt Flexner report, then we start to get the real picture. All of health care that was working at the time, they knew and seen was unregulated. This was a prime opportunity for them and for a buy out, and that is exactly what happened. Homeopathy, chiropractic,and all of naturopathic health care was immediately branded as quackery, and only the knew so called science and so called evidenced based pharmaceutical so medicine was allowed in any medical school. Eventually all the actually well working at the time existing methods, were run out the door and to be allowed to return. Eventually, the Rockefeller money had bought out all existing medical schools. How many doctors today realize that, and even more how many would ever look for that reality and truth, and most nor even would they care what the real historical truth shows us has happened.

    When you consider that they call all non-natural treatments, non scientific and non evidence based; what are they referring to? They are thus and from the very front lines of this historically based situation, claiming that ONLY the clinical trials done by drug companies, are science and evidence based. Only the millions spent on corrupt drug and vaccine clinical trials will they count as evidence and so called science based..(medicine). Just as was the plan since the first day endless decades ago, that the Rockefeller’s decided they were going to control this entire situation with their chemically manufactured drugs. When a drug and vaccine maker can through multiple end point numbers recalculation spin a 3% benefit as to their peoduct, then into a 30% benefit and then get it approved by the FDA, what is the resulting outcome for public health? It is what you see today, and that is a complete failure and in only the attempted treating essentially, symptoms. Now they as well have a produced systems existing where genetics are being looked at and evaluated. They claim to be able to prescribe their big pharma drugs, with more accuracy thru personally tailored genetic studies. The plan is as well to keep looking at faulty genetics as the cause of adverse human health conditions. What they refuse to acknowledge is that the entire system of prescribing is fraught with error in its deliberate refusal to and in their failure to have any desire to actually understand the true physiology of human health care, in general.

    I am telling you for the average public citizen to realize why modern medicine continues to be so failed, and with the public and the children as well only getting sicker and with more chronic illness than they have ever had; and that in spite of all their so called advances; they NEED to go back to the original history, which for the most part has been left entirely hidden. No standard and accepted medical book in allopathic so called medicine anywhere, contains, and nor has ever contained this historical truth information. How can that be? Money and power can buy off and control almost anything.

    I invite you to investigate this situation for yourself from historically the ground level up; and that is where it needs to start. Once you realize what has actually went occurred, you will never see this mainstream system of so called big pharma medicine, the same again.

    In world war two, what building was the only building left standing in Berlin, Germany? It was the Bayer chemical, (early phase pharmaceuticals) building and company. How much of the Nazi gained knowledge was at that time, taken to the US, and in this beginning phase of pharmaceutical use? Well, from the references on it you can still find, quite a bit of their draconian experimental knowledge was sought after and gained in the US, after that war.

    We have an FDA that has declared that nothing but a pharmaceutical drug can prevent or cure so called, disease. They claim that any other substance or protocol that claims to provide healing, thus causes that substance and promotion of that knowledge, to become a drug. Thus it all has to be evaluated by the FDA, and regulated accordingly. That is a monopoly, and total control of and on existing public information.

    Vaccine Caused Ischemia/Hypoxia
    https://antivaccine.wordpress.com/2013/10/16/vaccine-caused-ischemiahypoxia/

    WOULD AND SHOULD YOU TRUST A HEATH CARE SYSTEM, LIKE THIS??? A so called health care system that has been determined by two well done studies, to be the first and leading cause of death in the US; and over that and the numbers for heart disease and cancer deaths?

    https://antivaccine.wordpress.com/2014/06/20/would-and-should-you-trust-a-heath-care-system-like-this/

    THIS IS JUST A SHORT LIST OF OTHER REASONS….to question everything you have ever been told, and in what you believe to be true.

    Death By Medicine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/death-by-medicine.html

    Pharmakeia (aka sorceries) of Babylon
    http://www.vacfacts.info/pharmakeia-aka-sorceries-of-babylon.html

    The False Foundations of Modern Medicine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-foundations-of-modern-medicine.html

    The Real History of Modern Medicine
    Origins of Medical Industry Corruption
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-real-history-of-modern-medicine.html

    The Drug Story-A Factological History Of America’s $10,000,000,000 Drug Cartel, Its Methods, Operations, Hidden Ownership, Profits And Terrific Impact On The Health Of The American People.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-drug-story—the-history-of-modern-medicine.html

    Big Pharma’s Corruption and Fraud
    http://www.vacfacts.info/big-pharmarsquos-corruption-and-fraud.html

    Vaccination toxicity: The Zeta phase of MASS and “blood sludging”
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccination-toxicity-the-zeta-phase-of-mass-and-ldquoblood-sludgingrdquo.html

    Vaccine aluminum adjuvant causation of neuroglial activation and neuroinflammation in the brain of patients with autism.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-aluminum-adjuvant-causation-of-neuroglial-activation-and-neuroinflammation-in-the-brain-of-patients-with-autism.html

    Page two, of the aluminum adjuvant studies, and data.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-aluminum-adjuvant-causation-of-neuroglial-activation-and-neuroinflammation-in-the-brain-of-patients-with-autism–page-2.html

    The Mechanisms of Vaccine Injury and Via Cytokine Storm
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-mechanisms-of-vaccine-injury-and-via-cytokine-storm.html

    Vaccine Production With – Human Diploid Cells (aborted fetal cell tissue)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-production-with—human-diploid-cells-aborted-fetal-cell—tissue.html

    The Current Failure of Pertussis and Measles Vaccine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-current-failure-of-pertussis-and-measles-vaccine.html

    More Vaccine Reality! (Covers vaccine shedding and more vaccine ineffectiveness issues)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/more-vaccine-reality.html

    LOST POLITICS, BROKEN LAWS; ONE NATION UNDER VACCINE MANUFACTURERS
    http://www.jeffereyjaxen.com/blog/-lost-politics-broken-laws-one-nation-under-vaccine-manufacturers

    Gardasil personal Stories
    http://www.mygardasilstory.com/

    Scientific proof that the known cancer causing SV40 virus, a previous contaminant in the polio vaccine, is obviously either contagious; or the virus is still in the vaccine/s.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/scientific-proof-that-the-known-cancer-causing-sv40-virus-a-previous-contaminant-in-the-polio-vaccine-is-obviously-either-contagious-or-the-virus-is-still-in-the-vaccines.html

    Gardasil-The Flagship Example of the Failure of Vaccine Authorities to Regulate and Assure Vaccine Safety-“I am not a coincidence”
    http://www.vacfacts.info/gardasil-the-flagship-example-of-the-failure-of-vaccine-authorities-to-regulate-and-assure-vaccine-safety.html

    Gardasil The Real truth
    http://www.vacfacts.info/gardasil—the-real-truth.html

  • nworder

    THE VACCINE FRAUDS HAVE BEEN KNOWN FOR OVER 100 YEARS.

    Brave doctors fought the compulsory vaccination that Europe had.

    It was obvious they did not work and spread the actual disease.

    So you will be one of two people :-

    1 Steeped in ignorance and ignorant of history

    2 An unemployable who has picked up a job as a pharma troll

    DR HADWEN’S LECTURES :-

    SMALL-POX EPIDEMICS IN ENGLAND.

    We will now come nearer home and take the Metropolitan Asylums Board and their statistics.
    From 1870 to 1886 there were 53,579 cases of small-pox, and out of that number there were 43,919 who had undergone the process spoken of by Sir John Simon as “removing every taint of susceptibility to infection.”
    IE VACCINATION

  • nworder

    COMPULSORY VAX – ITS ALL BEEN DONE BEFORE AND FAILED IN EUROPE BUT BIG PHARMA HAS GOT AMERICA BY THE SHORTS AND EVEN THE TROLLS WILL BE LIKE PINCUSHIONS . Capt Ron is a true believer in cash for lying.

    DR HADWEN :-

    “Well now, let us see what vaccination did for Sheffield.

    This Sheffield epidemic occurred in 1887 in the very worst quarter of the town, on 135 acres of the most horribly insanitary part of the town, which was condemned years ago by the Government Inspector, and it has never been put right yet.

    That is where small-pox has always broken out, that is where small-pox has flourished: and when this tremendous epidemic took place on they went, vaccinating and re-vaccinating; and still the small-pox epidemic spread.
    There were no less than 7,000 cases of small-pox, and, alas! 600 deaths, and still the small-pox went on; until at last God in his mercy opened the floodgate of heaven and down came the rain, which washed the sewers and the drains, cleared away the refuse from the gutters, washed the dirt from the streets and the filth from the slums and away went the small-pox.

    Pure water accomplished for Sheffield what 56,000 vaccinations had been unable to effect. (Loud cheers.)”

  • nworder

    Are you still on here trying to undermine a bereaved mother – you are a sicko – Have you even done one relevant blog.

    THEY ALWAYS AVOID AN INVESTIGATION INTO SIDS :-

    GREEN MED INFO :-

    “Researchers “examined a large number of sudden infant death syndrome victims in order to point out a possible causal relationship between a previous hexavalent vaccination and the sudden infant death.”

    They selected 110 cases for review, finding that in “13 cases (11.8%) the death occurred in temporal association with administration of the hexavalent vaccine (from 1 to 7 days).” None of the victims had congenital developmental alterations of brain structures known to regulate vital functions. While brain abnormalities were noted, and while the researchers stated that their study does not prove a causal relationship between hexavalent vaccines and SIDS, they hypothesized that “vaccine components could have a direct role in sparking off a lethal outcome in vulnerable babies.” They concluded:

    “[W]e sustain the need that deaths occurring in a short space of time after hexavalent vaccination are appropriately investigated and submitted to a post-mortem examination particularly of the autonomic nervous system by an expert pathologist to objectively evaluate the possible causative role of the vaccine in SIDS.”

  • nworder

    He is malevolent – I think most trolls dont like what they are paid to do but “justthefarce” actually gets off on it

  • nworder

    VACCINE NEVER PREVENTS ANY DISEASE .

    ITS BEEN A CON FROM THE START :-

    DR HADWEN LECTURES ON VACCINATION:-

    “RE-VACCINATION IN THE ARMY :-

    Then look at our re-vaccinated Army. From 1860 to 1888 we had no less than 3,953 cases of small-pox in the British Army, and 391 of them died.
    If re-vaccination won’t protect the soldier, how is it going to protect the nurse? (Hear, hear.)

  • nworder

    But he could be a recycled troll after some retraining or electric shock therapy.

  • nworder

    Well said – more than enough to get “justthetroll” in a sort of lying ecstasy .

  • Nothing but the truth and the hard core facts do we deal with here, nworder. They can make denial of all that they want, but at the end of the day all they can do is get frustrated and kick the wall and nash their teeth in frustration. LOL.

  • nworder

    The purpose of trolls is to try and catch people who are researching vaccination to convince them anti vaxxers are nuts – but if you post enough facts next to their blog a mother can get informed and quickly see what a troll is about .
    They always try to get newer posts and leave the site with

    pro vax propaganda at the top. So it is good to go back and top them with some more facts.

  • nworder

    SMALLPOX CALLED “SUPERADDED” DISEASE – LOL

    DR HADWEN’S LECTURES :-

    ” THE NUMBER OF MARKS

    Then we are told it goes by the marks: that you must have a certain area, a certain shape, and a certain number.
    In fact there are any amount of shuffles: as Cobbett used to say, “Quackery has always one shuffle left.” (Renewed laughter.)

    When you come to remember that you can have no less than 70 different kinds of marks from the same lymph, it shows the utter absurdity of the whole thing. (hear hear)

    Mr. Marson, who was the surgeon at the Highgate Smallpox hospital, produced a number of statistics showing that the unvaccinated patients died at the rate of 35 per cent., and then according to the marks they had, one to three or four marks, so they died less and less until with four marks it almost came down to a vanishing point.

    Mr. Marson was submitted to cross-examination before the Committee of 1871, and then it turned out that a good many of those patients had died from what he was pleased to call “super-added disease.”

    That is, although they went in suffering from small-pox, yet there was some other disease they had got, and they were put down not as dying from small-pox, but from this other disease.

    It is a most extraordinary coincidence that the more marks the patients had the more they died from something else than small-pox. (Laughter.)
    And when you come to the four mark patients, of whom there were only eleven, absolutely ten died of “super-added disease,” and there was only one left for the record of small-pox, and that one was made to record a fatality of three-quarter per cent.

    This has been the sheet-anchor of the medical profession for years; these are the statistics dinned into the ears of the medical students to prejudice their future career in the medical profession ; these are the statistics which present, I have no hesitation in saying, the most glaring specimen of “cookery” ever penned by mortal man. (Cheers.) I think I have shown pretty clearly that vaccination is no protection, that mitigation is false, and that re-vaccination is a fallacy.”

  • nworder

    SIDS NORMALLY HAS NO SYMPTOMS – IT HAPPENS AFTER VACCINATION.

    WEBMD :-
    “What are the symptoms?

    SIDS has no symptoms or warning signs. Babies who die of SIDS seem healthy before being put to bed. They show no signs of struggle and are often found in the same position as when they were placed in the bed.
    How is SIDS diagnosed? ”

    Justthelies – Getting shot has no symptoms before death – lol

    If you’re a trained troll whats an untrained one like .

  • nworder

    Are you missing a screw – SIDS HAS NO SYMPTOMS NORMALLY – THIS IS FROM AN ALLOPATHETIC

    WEBSITE

    WEB MD :-

    “What are the symptoms?

    SIDS has no symptoms or warning signs. Babies who die of SIDS seem healthy before being put to bed. They show no signs of struggle and are often found in the same position as when they were placed in the bed.

    How is SIDS diagnosed?”

    THE ONLY SYMPTOM BEFORE SIDS IS VACCINATION.

  • Exactly. And if we can inform and educate just one person and/or one family that listened, even out of 200, and as to the vaccine truth; and in what is possible here; then our job is done, and that was all we could do. Saving one child or infant at a time.

    These vested interests trolling shills and paid off fools, will never stop reply posting with their denialism filled vaccines are safe and effective, bullcrap. We have the truth and the means to counter that deceptive effort, and every step of the way. http://www.vacfacts.info/

  • nworder

    You are like walter mitty with an added napoleon complex thinking your lying tripe would defeat anyone.
    Your next job is as a camp fema guard.

  • nworder

    AMERICA AT THE BOTTOM OF INFANT HEALTH
    When you think they are planning about 100 vaccines before six – america will go down the swanny .
    But the elites will not be doing this.
    I hope the trolls get all 100 shots .

  • A short history of Smallpox Vaccine
    V. Thirty Years of Rapidly Decreasing Vaccination in Leicester, and its Teachings.

    Excerpts:

    (1) The great manufacturing town of Leicester, with nearly 200,000 inhabitants, affords the most conclusive proof of the uselessness of vaccination that it is possible to have; and the doctors and government officials carefully avoid dealing with it except to prophecy evils which have never come to pass.

    Down to 1872 Leicester was one of the most completely vaccinated towns in the kingdom, the number of vaccinations, owing to alarm after epidemics, several times exceeding the number of births. Yet in 1871, at the very height of its good vaccination record, it was attacked by the epidemic with extreme severity, its small-pox deaths during that year being more than 3,500 per million of the population, or about a thousand per million more than the mortality in London during the same epidemic. If ever a test experiment existed it is this of Leicester, where an almost completely vaccinated community suffered more than unvaccinated and terribly insanitary London, on the average of the last forty years of the eighteenth century.

    But even more conclusive evidence is to come.

    (2) That fearful mortality destroyed the faith of Leicester in vaccination. Poor and rich alike, the workers and even the municipal authorities began to refuse vaccination for their children. This refusal continued till, in 1890, instead of 95 per cent. the vaccinations reached only 5 per cent. of the births! [[p. 17]] As this ominous decrease of vaccination went on the doctors again and again prophesied against it, that once small-pox was introduced it would run through the town like wildfire and decimate the population. Yet it has been introduced again and again, but it has never spread; and from that day to this no town in the kingdom of approximately equal population has had such a very low small-pox mortality as this almost completely unvaccinated and–as the doctors say–unprotected population! Surely this completes the demonstration that vaccination, instead of preventing, increases the liability to small-pox, and that the only way to abolish the disease is to do as Leicester did, leave off vaccination altogether and devote our energies to sanitation, and the isolation of such rare cases as do occur.

    Germany: 1870-1871 Over 1,000,000 people had smallpox of which 120,000 died. 96% of these had been vaccinated.

    Philippines: 1918-1919 Smallpox epidemic resulted in 60,855 deaths. (2) with over 95% of the population vaccinated, the worst epidemic in the Philippine’s history occurred resulting in a case mortality of 65%. The highest percentage occurred in the capital Manila, the most thoroughly vaccinated place. The lowest percentage occurred in Mindanao, the least vaccinated place owing to
    religious prejudices. (2)

    Scotland: 1855-1875 over 9,000 children under 5 died of smallpox despite Scotland being, at that time, one of the most vaccinated countries in the world.

    1907-1919 with only a third of the children vaccinated, only 7 smallpox deaths were recorded for children under 5 years of age.

    [Thats right, the vaccine truth people were right, all along. We were mislead, and lied to. Jenner caused far more harm than good.]

    Read more:
    http://www.vaclib.org/legal/MTstate/smallpox.pdf

    Compulsory Vaccination Killed More Than Smallpox
    http://nocompulsoryvaccination.com/2014/03/08/compulsory-vaccination-killed-more-than-smallpox/

    Jenner’s son suffered brain damage and died after smallpox vaccination

    What Most People Don’t Know About The Father of Vaccination and Why History is Repeating Itself
    http://preventdisease.com/news/14/031014_Most-People-Dont-Know-About-Father-Vaccination-History-Repeating-Itself.shtml

    The real story of the covered up failure of the small pox vaccine.
    History Repeats Itself: Lessons Vaccinators Refuse to Learn, by Jennifer Craig, PhD
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/04/17/history-repeats-itself-lessons-the-vaccinationists-refuse-to-learn-by-jennifer-craig-phd/

    Smallpox Vaccine: Origins of Vaccine Madness
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2010/02/26/smallpox-vaccine-origins-of-vaccine-madness/

    The Decline of Smallpox in Great Britain – Vaccination in Doubt. It includes a critique of Edward Jenner’s book and theories.
    http://www.medicinekillsmillions.com/articles/truth-about-decline-of-the-infectious-diseases.html

    Vaccination: A Mythical History ~ by Roman Bystrianyk and Suzanne Humphries MD

    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2013/08/27/vaccination-a-mythical-history-by-roman-bystrianyk-and-suzanne-humphries-md/#sthash.03Vj2X4E.dpuf

    HISTORICAL MANIPULATION, SMALLPOX, AND POLIO
    http://www.vaccinesuncensored.org/history.php

  • nworder

    TROLLING FOR BIG PHARMA – WHAT’S THE EFFECTS ON THE MIND ?

    Continual lying will eventually damage your mental health.
    Looking for truth is the natural condition of the human race – “the truth will set you free” Jesus.

    But the trolls think they can pull themselves out of this at some future date.

    The officer in Colditz who decided to pretend he was insane so that the germans would let him home actually could not get out of his insanity – he eventually died insane.
    This will happen to the troll . I could not do their job – it must have a tremendous strain on their souls and spirit
    The only way trolls can lie for pharma execs , for little cash , is if they are as evil as these executives who dont lose a wink’s sleep when they kill or maim millions
    with their 150 year old superstition of vaccination .

  • Significance here is irrelevant, when the mother is not aware of what is actually happening. What is happening and was happening, is a major adverse reaction to vaccines. You expect the mother to be more aware than the doctor that gave the vaccines? A doctor like all doctors that of course refuse to acknowledge any major adverse reaction to vaccines, in progress. Ok then, just blame the mother, who you now obviously think should have been aware that her child was dying of an adverse vaccine reaction.

  • nworder

    Excellent stuff – I think the vaccinations themselves while offering no protection actually spread the disease – right away or lying latent for a while then breaking out.

  • Does GoFundMe, mean that you are looking for and accepting funding for your own vaccine shill trolling; or just your new pro-vaccine… shilliversity?

  • nworder

    Justthefacts – would probably like to turn up at the funerals of these vaccine murdered kids and berate the mothers and family.

  • So what exactly is wrong with your reading and reality comprehension, anyway?

    You are like some broken record that won’t stop playing. Nothing is enough, and you just come right back in with the same proven false and obviously… entirely mindless claims.

  • The insanity of your claim is that you have the data backwards. There are actually near to 50,000 cases of acute flaccid paralysis, that have existing in India alone. Those cases rose in number directly in parallel to the number of live oral polio vaccine pushed in that country, and used.

    Sufficient data to make the claims that I have here, are found on this below page.

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign
    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

  • nworder

    I think he gets pleasure in taunting the bereaved.

  • nworder

    I think you are justthefacts with sunglasses.
    If you were a double glazing or car salesman I would buy nothing.

  • We can all read the article. What is it that you refuse to see and comprehend? As I said this case follows exactly the same scenario that has been seen with adverse vaccine reactions, time and time again. Again, due to the number of vaccines given and as well inappropriately doubled up on. And again just because due to that, this case moved toward a resulting death faster than most that have been previously witnessed, that does not make it and any of this less real.

    You sound like a person that if you watched five children die of an adverse reaction to multiple vaccines and right in front of you, that you would still deny any connection to vaccines in all five situation. And why? Just to save whatever you are protecting for vested interests in vaccines. How incredibly evil, is that?

  • I don’t think you have any intended truth going on here at all, Lazarus; and nor do you any balls at all. Your just another obvious trolling shill scum bag, with a false name and identity.

  • Try and stay focused and on task here, Justnotanyfacts! I was providing supporting documentation in answer to replies that were just made here. Oh here you go, and here is another. And some people obviously do not think that any existing vaccine contamination, ever matters.

    Vaccine Production With – Human Diploid Cells (aborted fetal cell tissue)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-production-with—human-diploid-cells-aborted-fetal-cell—tissue.html

    Vaccine Contamination
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-contamination.html

  • Obviously you have some major difficulty in staying on track, and in following what has been reply posted here. That was a direct reply to a comment that was made here.

  • nworder

    He’s found his two new words – gish galloping – lol

    He’s trying to sidestep you posting these good links so dont be kind to him – it is diversionary tactics.

  • And all while still praising Paul Offit, Pediatrics, the CDC; and all their for profit and to much to lose minions.

    http://www.vacfacts.info/paul-offit—the-real-truth.html

  • nworder

    What vaccine is unrelated to SIDS – they all kill infants.

  • That is obviously a fact.

    Public Health Officials Know: Recently Vaccinated Individuals Spread Disease

    Washington, D.C., March 3, 2015 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — Physicians and public health officials know that recently vaccinated individuals can spread disease and that contact with the immunocompromised can be especially dangerous. For example, the Johns Hopkins Patient Guide warns the immunocompromised to “Avoid contact with children who are recently vaccinated,” and to “Tell friends and family who are sick, or have recently had a live vaccine (such as chicken pox, measles, rubella, intranasal influenza, polio or smallpox) not to visit.”1

    A statement on the website of St. Jude’s Hospital warns parents not to allow people to visit children undergoing cancer treatment if they have received oral polio or smallpox vaccines within four weeks, have received the nasal flu vaccine within one week, or have rashes after receiving the chickenpox vaccine or MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) vaccine.2

    “The public health community is blaming unvaccinated children for the outbreak of measles at Disneyland, but the illnesses could just as easily have occurred due to contact with a recently vaccinated individual,” says Sally Fallon Morell, president of the Weston A. Price Foundation. The Foundation promotes a healthy diet, non-toxic lifestyle and freedom of medical choice for parents and their children. “Evidence indicates that recently vaccinated individuals should be quarantined in order to protect the public.”

    Scientific evidence demonstrates that individuals vaccinated with live virus vaccines such as MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), rotavirus, chicken pox, shingles and influenza can shed the virus for many weeks or months afterwards and infect the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike. 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10.11.12

    Furthermore, vaccine recipients can carry diseases in the back of their throat and infect others while displaying no symptoms of a disease.13,14,15

    Both unvaccinated and vaccinated individuals are at risk from exposure to those recently vaccinated. Vaccine failure is widespread; vaccine-induced immunity is not permanent and recent outbreaks of diseases such as whooping cough, mumps and measles have occurred in fully vaccinated populations.16,17 Flu vaccine recipients become more susceptible to future infection after repeated vaccination.18,19

    Adults have contracted polio from recently vaccinated infants. A father from Staten Island ended up in a wheel chair after contracting polio while changing his daughter’s diaper. He received a 22.5 million dollar award in 2009. 20,21

    “Vaccine failure and failure to acknowledge that live virus vaccines can spread disease have resulted in an increase in outbreaks of infectious disease in both vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals,” says Leslie Manookian, producer of The Greater Good. “CDC should instruct physicians who administer vaccinations to inform their patients about the risks posed to others by those who’ve been recently vaccinated.”

    According to the Weston A. Price Foundation, the best protection against infectious disease is a healthy immune system, supported by adequate vitamin A and vitamin C. Well-nourished children easily recover from infectious disease and rarely suffer complications.

    Read more:
    http://globenewswire.com/news-release/2015/03/03/712042/10123084/en/Public-Health-Officials-Know-Recently-Vaccinated-Individuals-Spread-Disease.html

    More Vaccine Reality!
    http://www.vacfacts.info/more-vaccine-reality.html

  • That is all they ever do is intentionally cause a diversion and a deliberate distraction from any form of real and honest debating of the subject matter.

  • nworder

    You are Gern – I suspect – lol an extra 50 cents for you – an eternity in the lake ?

  • nworder

    SALK ADMITTED THAT HIS POLIO VACCINE CAUSED ALL OR NEARLY ALL POLIO CASES IN AMERICA

    VRM :-
    “In 1977, Dr Jonas Salk who developed the first polio vaccine, testified along with other scientists, that mass inoculation against polio was the cause of most polio cases throughout the USA
    since 1961. (Science 4/4/77 “Abstracts” – Control of influenza and poliomyelitis with killed virus vaccines) http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/search? ”

    “The evidence is overwhelming that Salk and Sabin did nothing but cause tremendous confusion in the medical world by modifying the polio disease, as Pasteur did over a hundred years ago with so many other diseases. Multiple sclerosis, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, CFS, Tourette syndrome, “learning disabilities,” Guillain Barre Syndrome, idiopathic epilepsy, and many other neurological conditions may very well be just forms of polio induced by these vaccines.

    Salk and Sabin opened Pandora’s box and we now have 72 types of polio rather than three. But it will be a long time before you read about this in the mass media — what would this revelation do to the credibility of the vaccination programs so fervently promoted by the federal and state bureaucrats and the public health doctors?”

  • Vaccine Memorial Page: Remembering those lost forever
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/VaccineMemorialPage/1578798415710259/?notif_t=group_activity

    VACCINE CHOICE PRAYER COMMUNITY, (this is where the rubber meets the road so to speak in our vaccine truth efforts, whoaa …what a page).

    Below are just some of the countless children who have died following vaccine injury. Please take a moment to light a candle or offer a prayer for them and for their families. More stories at Families Speak, Meet the Children, International Memorial for Vaccine Victims and My Gardasil Story.
    http://www.vaccinechoiceprayercommunity.org/we-remember.html

    Vaccine Injury Stories
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/VaccineInjuryStories/

    Hear This Well is a Response to Vaccine Fiction
    http://www.hearthiswell.org/

    Hear This Well: Breaking the Silence on Vaccine Violence 263 videos 285,167 views
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJpPObXpZncOfT0bG2ghgkVb2Nxjd_bNe

    Gardasil personal Stories
    http://www.mygardasilstory.com/

  • Al Mather

    Or anything else the infant ate,drank,was exposed to it’s entire life..including it’s own genetic make up.

  • Al Mather

    Rational civil debate or conversation ..where they acknowledge and address another sides points..is not their friend. It does end well for them.

  • nworder

    Al you are the one on the right – yes ?

  • nworder

    You are two pharma prostitutes admiring one another -lol

  • Al Mather

    Nice total avoidance of the question.

  • nworder

    Which one of you two is Al – and have you both been vaccinated

    VRM – THE GREAT POLIO FRAUD :-

    1954 General vaccination programs against Polio begin in the United States.

    1954 Polio rate caused by the vaccine accelerates ten-fold in Massachusetts.

    1954 Eli Lilly company begins renovation of a five-story building in Indianapolis in July 1954 for the production of Salk vaccine. It is in full production by October of 1954. Wyeth, Parke-Davis and others follow suit.

    According to the ACS, they are predicting 6.4 million deaths from cancer, compared with 128,000 in 1933 – an increase of 6.2 million cases in 22 years. Vaccination, pesticide use and chemical pollution are the main factors that have increased since 1933.

    1955 Despite the skyrocketing cases of vaccine-induced polio, the AMA, NFIP and USPHS claim a reduction of 40-50%.

    1955 Idaho brings its Salk vaccination program to a halt on July 1, 1955. Utah does the same on July 12, 1955.

  • Free People

    Yup, I’m for real; it’s you who is FAKE and insane since you’re just a lying troll for pHARMafia pushing deadly products for pennies.

    Nope, I don’t read quack books on mythology and personal beliefs especially when this quacks ‘project’ fell flat on its face and proved the body can NOT hold the ‘genetic MYTH’ franken$cience wants to fool the people with. Blame all vaccine$ and drug$ problems on people’s ‘bad genes’ – what a bad joke. But your industries are being exposed for what they are – criminal and greedy.

    Genetic Inheritance Theory Shattered!
    http://www.naturalnews.com/042260_genetics_myths_Human_Genome_Project_morphic_resonance.html

  • nworder

    DEATH BY VACCINATION – WEBSITE :-

    “Dr. Paul Offit is the multi-millionaire patent holder of a vaccine with a safety record that was so bad that it was once recalled by the FDA, then put back because it “only killed about a dozen children.”

    He also claims that vitamins, minerals, and other supplements are unnecessary and infers that they should be banned.
    Many children, including children with rare neuro-degenerative disorders such as Brown-Vialetto-Van Laere syndrome, require vitamin supplements (Riboflavin, aka Vitamin B2) for survival.
    Fortunately for many children and adult with genetic disorders, Dr Paul Offit’s rants to stimulate drug sales by blocking vitamins have failed. Dr. Paul Offit appears to have acquired a Nazi mentality that believes only the genetically pure should be allowed to live.

    Dr Paul Offit is also the self-appointed vaccine spokesperson for MERCK Pharmaceuticals (MERCK manufactures his ROTA-TEQ vaccine), and is responsible for the majority of Autism in the United States by denying fundamental laws of vaccination that were peer reviewed and published as far back as 1925.”

  • nworder

    SO WHAT GENETICS OF AMERICANS MAKES THEM CANCER NATION NO 1 – LOL

  • Free People

    Most people reading these comments are fully aware that the pro-vaccine
    commenters here travel the net in gangs, looking for articles that might have a pro choice slant, that might give the public the truth about vaccination.

    Vaccines are the biggest HOAX in history. They have KILLED millions if not billions. They don’t work ‘to save lives’, they take lives.

  • Free People

    Haha! Good one!

  • Andrew Kasch

    These anti-vaxxers will never change. They read conspiracy theories from every psuedo-science blog on the internet and buy into it without question. And then when presented with real scientific data, they will claim it’s all lies from big pharma who are just trying to make a profit. But they’ll blindly quote NaturalNews.com and every other quack who has some homeopathic remedy to sell them. How ironic!

    The delusional mind of a conspiracy theorist is a powerful thing. They believe that by questioning everything that they’re somehow the only ones smart enough to see things as they really are. But unlike 9/11 truthers or UFO nuts, these fools are a danger to public health.

  • Al Mather

    Stop..think…of course “vaccine induced cases” accelerate AFTER the vaccine..they can’t even exist before the vaccine…but the widespread use of the vaccine reduces and eventually eradicates actual wild spread of the disease.

  • Al Mather

    idiot.

  • Al Mather

    Brilliant response. Idiot.

  • nworder

    BUT HOW CAN WE BE DANGER TO YOU – VACCINES WORK – DONT THEY – SO YOU ARE SAFE – AREN’T YOU – LOL

    REAL SCIENCE – A KID CAN TAKE 10,000 VACCINES – “DR”
    OFFIT – LOL

    9/11 TRUTH – A GUY IN A CAVE AND ARABS WHO COULD NOT FLY TAKE DOWN 3 PLANEPROOF SKYSCRAPERS IN THE MOST HEAVILY PROTECTED NATION IN THE WORLD -lol

    If this is the case what chance does america have against Russian technology ?????

  • Andrew Kasch

    Once again, anti-vaxxers distort the truth. There was an isolated incident from a manufacturer that caused some vaccines to carry polio. That’s what Salk was testifying against – a lab mistake. None of this changes the fact that his vaccines worked and saved countless more lives. And he spent his remaining years developing more of them.

    See, unlike your paranoid worldview, people in the medical industry actually try to HELP others.

  • Andrew Lazarus

    That’s because paralysis was so common in India, nobody bothered to keep an accurate tally until the vaccination campaign.

    India has about 7 times the population of the USA in 1952, when we had 50,000 cases of paralytic polio.

  • nworder

    Ah the “WILD” “UNTAMED” “UNCIVILISED” “STUBBORN”
    LITTLE CRITTER VIRUSES – lol.

    So the wild viruses run away from the civilised LAB viruses who know how to behave – like Bill Gates polio vaccine -lol
    How do you tell the difference between the wild and untamed virus and the educated LAB virus. Do you examine a billion virus particles under a scope – lol

    How do you pretend that a virus does not kill or maim – call it another named disease – like non polio symptoms -lol

  • nworder

    ISOLATED ??? IT CAUSED MILLIONS TO SUFFER AND GAVE THE AMERICANS CANCER.

    BILL GATES must still be doing this “isolated” incident
    since he is causing thousands of polio paralysis in africa and india and elsewhere with his vaccination “HELP”
    squads.

  • Andrew Kasch

    Since you can’t even grasp the basics of biology and science, I’ll let this clip explain it all to you:
    http://vactruth.com/2015/04/23/baby-dies-after-13-vaccines/#comment-1999526882

    You’re not just a threat to me and everyone else, you’re a bigger threat to my baby, who is too young to get immunized against preventable illnesses that could affect her for life.

    And I see you’re a 9/11 truther too… That’s all I need to know. So long, crackpot.

  • nworder

    YOUR 50,000 CASES WAS THE VACCINE – IF THERE WAS NO ACCURATE TALLY KEPT WHY DO YOU KEEP COMING UP WITH “YOUR” ‘ACCURATE” TALLY

    VACCINES UNCENSORED :-

    “I’ve been practicing for forty years and in the past ten years, the children have been sicker than ever.”
    Doris J. Rapp MD, Pediatric Allergist

    “If a person has a tendency towards a disease, at a certain age, a vaccine might make him/her more susceptible later when other challenges come along.”
    Dr. Howard Weiner, Immunologist, Harvard Medical School

    “We don’t know the long-term effects of vaccines. It will take several generations before we see some genetic alterations.”
    Glen Dettman AAM, PhD, FAPH, Australia, 1992

  • Andrew Kasch

    I’ll just leave this here…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_hCLWtEHL8

  • Andrew Lazarus

    Capital letters do not make your statement true.

    We have an accurate tally of paralysis in the United States. Not in India. If you learn how to read both upper and lower case letters, you will make progress.

  • nworder

    NO NO NO – YOU DONT KNOW YOUR OWN SIDE – LOL
    AMERICA’S DOCTORS WILL JAB YOU BABY ON THE 1ST DAY BORN.
    They will even vaccinate the mum with all sorts of jabs if you want.
    You can get your 100 jabs so that you will not infect your baby.
    It is the VACCINATED who will infect your baby since as the CDC says they will shed onto your baby.

    So you have it all upside down – the lying is getting to you
    which is expected.
    I know you wont be vaccinating any baby of yours – you know too much about it.

  • Andrew Kasch

    Millions of people suffered and died of cancer? You just pulled that out of your ass. In reality, a few thousand kids got polio. Five died. It was a lab accident. Countless more lives were saved by the vaccine itself. That’s like saying air bags kill people because a few people have died from car malfunctions.

    Go back to trying to disprove 9/11, nutty.

  • nworder

    I would never watch a vaccine propaganda advert. I am a critical thinker and I could not stomach pharma advertising.
    Not common core educated and I follow the money and have read some history – thats why I can hold down a job – unlike you – who has to troll for a living – I would rather pick up dog turds than do what you have sold your soul to do.

    DR HADWEN LECTURES –

    “INCREASE OF INFANT SYPHILIS AFTER VACCINATION :-

    What about syphilis? (Hear, hear.) It is a very strange thing that up to 1853, when the Compulsory Vaccination Act was passed, the annual deaths from syphilis of children under one year old did not, exceed 380; the very next year the number had jumped up nearly double, to 591 ; and syphilis in infants under one year of age has gone on increasing every year since until 1883, when the number of deaths reached 1,813.

    It has increased four-fold in infants since the passing of the Compulsory Vaccination Act, and yet in adults it has remained almost stationary. Surely this speaks for itself. (hear, hear.) These deaths have only begun to decline since, in proportion as the number of vaccinations to births have declined. Therefore we have not merely children dying primarily from vaccination, but from a concurrent disease.

    The question is asked, “Cannot you get any pure lymph which will really answer the purpose?” Well, they have tried all sorts. They have tried cow-pox, horse-pox, horse-grease cow-pox, also goat-pox, and that from the sheep; they even went to the buffalo, but the buffalo-pox stank so horribly that they had to give it up. (Laughter.) Surgeon O’Hara even advises that we should get some lymph from the donkey. (Renewed laughter.) One would have thought that the donkey was low enough, but someone has gone further. Dr. Monckton-Copeman as suggested in the “British Medical Journal” that some small-pox scabs should be powdered as fine as possible in a mortar, placed in an egg, stirred up into a kind of smallpox omelette, and after being put by for a certain time it is ready to be placed in the babies’ arms. (“Shame.”)

    That is what I may call a “fowl” concoction. (Laughter.) We have had almost as many animals suggested for the purpose of supplying lymph as there were in Noah’s Ark—a regular menagerie of them; the vaccinators are in as big a muddle about it as ever, and yet they say “You must have the genuine variety or you will be sure to catch the small-pox.” (More laughter.) “Pure lymph from the cow!” It reminds me of the notice one sometimes sees, “Pure milk from the cow; animals milked on the premises.” (Laughter.) “Pure lymph” calls to mind the green fields and pastures of the country I Can it be had, you ask?

    Well, Government Microscopist Farn, who examines the lymph sent out, was asked by Dr. Collins, “As a matter of fact have you ever guaranteed the purity of lymph in your life?” and he had to acknowledge “No.”

  • nworder

    Your post was incomprehensible .

    NEXT LEVEL NUTRITION :-
    “Polio peaked in the early 1950s and was on its way out prior to the introduction of the Salk polio vaccine.
    “Herd immunity” was achieved through exposure to the polio wild virus during the 1940s and 50s.

    Then came the oral polio vaccine (OPV) invented by Albert Sabin using attenuated live viruses. This was designed to create “viral shedding” from those vaccinated to those not vaccinated, thus immunizing them also.
    Nice theory. But the reality was live viruses contained in OPVs tended to recombine and mutate into a fourth, more virulent wild virus polio strain.

    There was even a case in the United States where a father was stricken with polio from OPV viruses while changing his vaccinated babies’ diapers! He succeeded with his lawsuit after several years.

    The dangerous oral polio vaccines were eventually banned in America and other industrialized nations. But the vaccine manufacturers managed to push them off to third world countries that not only paid for them, but agreed to enforce the OPVs on their populations!

  • Andrew Lazarus

    Peaked in the early 1950s? The Salk vaccine was released in 1955. Thanks for admitting that it was the vaccine that pretty much ended polio.

    To be more specific, 1952 was a record bad year, so of course 1953 was better. But polio ticked slightly back up in 1954. The idea that it was going away is simply preposterous.

    Yes, you found one incident of vaccine-induced polio. Explain again why one such case every few years is worse than tens of thousands of cases every year? It wouldn’t be a kooky belief that your Badass Immune System eats wild polio for breakfast but somehow rolls over for the vaccine, would it? Despite statistical evidence that runs the other way around?

  • Free People

    Yes, your words are of a true paranoid
    and liar. The same quack you’re praising confirms you’re a liar. google it
    yourself.

    1976 Quacktor Jonas Salk, creator of
    the polio vaccine, says that analysis indicates that the live virus vaccine in
    use since the 1960’s is the principle, if not sole cause of ALL polio cases
    since 1961.
    1977 (Mar) Jonas and Darrell Salk warn live virus vaccines
    produce the same disease.

    There is no ‘actual scientifically proven medicine’ but you
    say there is because you’re a paid member of the “Foxes guarding the hen-house”
    Club.

    “Tell a big lie, repeat it often, and
    it will be believed.” — Vaccine INC..and pHARMa Shills – it’s your job!

  • Gern Blanston

    Were you born an idiot, or did mommy feed you lead paint?

  • nworder

    THE POLIO HOAX :-
    Dr. Jonas Salk , creator of the polio vaccine, says that analysis indicates that the live virus vaccine in use since the 1960’s is the principle, if not sole cause of all polio cases since 1961.

    “Polio was pretty obscure before the twentieth century. There’d been some outbreaks in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, and most victims had been under the age of four”.

    Note that these polio epidemics in earlier centuries ended on their own without the Salk and Sabin Vaccines http://www.uh.edu/admin/engines/epi1527.htm

  • nworder

    ANDREW YOU HAVE THE SV40 VIRUS IN YOU – BETTER STOP LYING FOR A LIVING

    The Salk and Sabin Vaccines caused:

    Polio: 33,300 total cases of polio and 33 cases of paralytic polio in 1950 led to 9 deaths, but AFTER the Salk Vaccine had been widely implemented in 1960, paralytic polio cases increased 80 fold to 2,525 http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus_93.pdf

    Cancer: “98 million Americans were also contaminated with monkey viruses [i.e., SV40 from the Salk and Sabin Vaccines] and may be one reason why there has been an explosion of cancer, new infectious agents and other new immune and neurological disorders among the baby boomers born between 1941 and 1961”.

    AIDS: “The transfer of monkey viruses to man via vaccines is particularly relevant to AIDS since the causative agent HIV, is thought to be derived from a simian precursor virus” [read: the SV40 virus transferred from monkeys to humans with both the Salk and Sabin Vaccines KILLED 21.8 million people]

    Hepatitis B: “the reason hepatitis B is endemic in [Asia and Africa] is because of another vaccination program gone bad — the polio vaccine. These polio viruses are cultured in monkey kidneys, and they didn’t realize there was this cancer-causing virus in it– which we’re all carrying around — and they are finding in cancers now”.

  • nworder

    GERN – NOT TOO LATE TO GET A PROPER JOB – WE KNOW YOU JUST JOINED UP BECAUSE YOU WERE UNEMPLOYABLE :-

    Gern looks like he is just out of troll college – that vacant look of the zombie programmed – lol

    THE POLIO HOAX :-

    ” Mad Cow Disease: it took seven years for signs of Mad Cow Disease to appear in children who were innoculated with the same batch of the oral polio vaccine.”
    Other Suspects: Chronic fatigue syndrome
    Human adenoviruses Coxsackie
    Echo Herpes (HHV 6,7,8)
    Epstein-Barr Cytomegalovirus:

    Other “inexplicible” chronic illnesses.
    Dr. Philippe Chahinian, a leading oncologist at Mount Sinai Hospital and an expert in mesotheliomas. “We know that SV40 is implicated in cancers induced in the hamsters.
    Now we are seeing this agent might be implicated in the causation of certain human cancers as well.” http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/6028/shot.htm

    Dr. John Martin, the Sabin Vaccine caused the spread of SV40 to Russia [which may be why Russian men have a life expectancy 18 years shorter than Japanese men], and SV40 is expected to be passed genetically in child birth without the need for the Salk and Sabin Vaccines.

    Dr. Alan Cantwell on the link between SV-40 and AIDS.

    Harold Stearley on SV-40: “patients too young to have received the contaminated vaccine being administered forty years ago who are now believed to have been infected by human to human transmission”.

  • Al Mather

    Do you REALLY not grasp the math at play here??Or are you just pretending to be obtuse to be difficult?

  • nworder

    “The math at play ” ? All I see are trolls at play .

    Is your companion telling you what to write – lol

    THE POLIO HOAX :-

    Dr. Ted Gurney describes the mechanism by which the SV40 virus causes malignant cells to multiply rapidly.

    Dr. Vincenzo Fontana describes the link between the SV40 virus and mesothelioma cancer.

    Leading Edge:

    The evidence suggests that a methodical system has existed for knowingly and selectively transferring slow and difficult-to-detect diseases from other species into the human race.

    The British Medical Journal suggests that a non-innoculated person might get the SV40 virus “by transmission from immunised subjects” [read: like the common cold is transmitted].

    IN EVERY ANIMAL – FRIGHTENING STUFF
    Dr. Thomas Stone: “The Polyoma virus caused cancers in every animal receiving it!
    It was discovered that the Polyoma virus was IDENTICAL to the SV40 virus that grossly contaminated the polio vaccine prior to 1964 and continues to contaminate vaccines used by pediatricians today!

    Which vaccines are contaminated?”

  • Andrew Lazarus

    There were almost 2000 deaths from polio in 1950.

    You appear to be a very badly programmed bot, with the same dead link to the same mistaken claim over and over. Is there some way (SMS, SNMP?) you can message your programmer to come in and fix the bug?

  • nworder

    YOU FELL FOR THE POLIO LIES ANDREW – especially when you get paid peanuts to fall for it .

    By Gary Krasner & Barry Mesh
    Plus Excerpt From, “Immunization: The Reality Behind The Myth”, By Walene James (1988)

    “Polio was already declining in the U.S. and Europe during the 40’s and 50’s, as well as in England, where polio mortalities was at its height in 1950, but had declined 82 percent by 1956, before the Salk vaccinations began there.
    There was also no polio epidemic in the Third-World, where only 10 per cent of the population had been vaccinated.
    But the Public Health Service and the March Of Dimes campaign swelled the statistics by combining the larger numbers of non-paralytic, “unspecified” and
    “abortive” polio cases, with the dwindling numbers of paralytic cases.
    Almost two-thirds of this total comprised the milder, “non-paralytic” type. In the minds of millions of people-then and now-polio had meant paralysis.
    But by combining paralytic cases with the various milder, non-paralytic forms, the public was misled into thinking that paralysis was sweeping the land.

    Paralysis started to rise only after the Salk vaccine had begun in April 1955. It proved to be so hazardous that by November 1955, all European countries, with the exception of Denmark, had cancelled or discontinued
    their Salk vaccine programs.

    Canada postponed its Salk vaccine program July 29th of that year.
    In the U.S., Newark, N.J. stopped inoculations in June, 1955, while Idaho and Utah took similar action in July, followed shortly by Massachusetts [Morris Beale’s American Capsule News, Oct. 15th, 1955].

    By January 1, 1957, 17 states had rejected their supplies of Salk polio vaccine. During that year, the NY Times reported that very nearly half the paralytic cases, and three-quarters of the non-paralytic cases in children between the ages of 5 and 14 years occurred in vaccinated children.
    After two years of Salk vaccinations, paralytic polio increased nationally about 50% from 1957 to 1958, and about 80% from 1958 to 1959.”

  • Andrew Lazarus

    It’s so much easier when you just make up your own numbers.

    1947, 1949, and 1950 were extraordinarily bad years for polio in England, so indeed deaths were down shortly before the vaccine. But the lower numbers (100-250) were in line with the rest of the 1930s and 1940s. (Data) Look what happens after vaccinations: deaths drop from the hundreds into the teens and twenties.

    There were quality control problems with the initial roll-out of the Salk vaccine, yet numbers were still a small fraction of pre-vaccine years. Then they plunged pretty much to zero.

    As for no polio in the Third World, doesn’t that put the lie to the antivax mantra that better hygiene and nutrition are all we need?

  • nworder

    THEY’RE NOT MY NUMBERS AS YOU KNOW

    By Gary Krasner & Barry Mesh
    Plus Excerpt From, “Immunization: The Reality Behind The Myth”, By Walene James (1988)

    “The attempt to hide the rise in paralysis occurred after 1955, when viral analysis of coxsackie virus infection and septic meningitis made them distinguishable from paralytic poliomyelitis. But if they had continued to be counted together as a single “polio” disease, it would have showed that paralytic polio increased nationally about 50% from 1957 to 1958, and about 80% from 1958 to 1959-two years into the Salk vaccination campaign.

    In addition to these two polio “twins”, there were actually 170 other diseases with “polio-like” symptoms, with names like, spinal meningitis, inhibitory palsy, epidemic cholera, cholera morbus, ergotism,famine fever, billious remittent fever, spinal apoplexy, scurvy, berri-berri, pellagra, acidosis, etc. Each were very likely classified as “polio” during the frenzy prior to 1955.

    After 1955, NON-paralytic polio also acquired a new name. It wasn’t until the mid-1950’s that new laboratory techniques of culturing viruses could distinguish THIS polio from its clinical twin, aseptic meningitis.
    Before 1960, not a single case of “aseptic meningitis” was reported. Then, it was called (non-paralytic) “polio”, and nationally had totaled 70,083 between 1951 and 1960. But from 1961 to 1992, there had been 220,365 cases of aseptic meningitis. There were only 589 cases of non-paralytic polio from 1961 to 1982. Not a single case has been reported since.

    Non-paralytic polio may have “disappeared”. But thousands of children still experience the same symptoms as non-paralytic polio every year. Except now, it goes by another name.”

    AKA -BILL GATES NON PARALYTIC POLIO – lol

  • Andrew Lazarus

    So you repeat other people’s made up numbers. Okay. Isn’t it a tip-off that they provide not a shred of quantification (and I bet no source footnotes either) for the claim paralysis increased whatever the cause, and then complain that non-paralytic polio—you do understand the implications of the prefix non, right—has been renamed. Even leaving this oversimplification behind for the sake of argument, we’re looking at 7,000 cases a year by your own count, and this is less than one-third the pre-vaccine level (much less considering population growth). But it is an oversimplification, because even before 1955 it was recognized that coxsackie and other viruses could cause the same symptoms as non-paralytic polio.

    Everybody got hot and bothered last year over a few dozen cases of enterovirus 68 that could cause paralysis, until Ebola pushed it out of the news. If polio (under disguised names) was really causing thousands of cases of paralysis a year, who would have noticed or cared about a few more?

  • Al Mather

    Most people who participate in these discussions have firm opinion. Yes. It’s “fun” for the pro vaxxers because you get to poke a stick at the anti vaxxers like you and nword here ..trapped in in the cage of their own blather, conspiracy theories and senseless drivel. It gets old quick though when they can’t discern referenced science from Natural News Nuttery…so most post for the benefit of the reader who might …somehow..be on the fence or looking to be reaffirmed. Reality though ..little that any provaxxer says will have the same sway as the stupidity spewed by folks like Nword.. his “all over the map” posts do more convincing by sounding like idiot rants that the undecided reader is pushed to see the sanity in the provax position.

  • Free People

    No on both counts since I’m not the one paid to come on to articles to post big lies. Suggest maybe you get your quacktor to run ‘tests’ for both problems and get quacktor ‘medicine’ from him. You might be able to get a real job!

  • nworder

    Al tell the guy with the cowboy hat to stop using you as a ventriloquists dummy – we know that you could have said at least something relevant without him – but you haven’t.

  • Free People

    Keep dreaming – and ‘blather’ is what you put out. Nobody got anything from this post except that you are envious and AFRAID of nworder and any of us who post TRUTH. You people are allergic to the truth and this is why you slave for big pHARMafia/VaxINC LIE$$$. Right up your alley. Liar.

  • nworder

    I am surprised that any child survives the following list of chemicals in over 50 vaccines but they will all be damaged for the “cause” = shareholders pockets and nothing else.

    WHAT IS THE CAUSE OF POLIO OR PARALYSIS?

    By Gary Krasner & Barry Mesh
    Plus Excerpt From, “Immunization: The Reality Behind The Myth”, By Walene James (1988)

    “While conventional medicine has yet to suggest a direct viral mechanism for polio, there are plausible toxicological mechanisms.
    One toxicological mechanism of various paralytic diseases may be manifested by vaccination itself. In addition to highly antigenic (toxic) proteins and foreign viral particles, vaccines contain extremely poisonous preservatives, adjuvants, neutralizers, carrying agents and extracting agents, such as thimerosal (a mercury derivative), benzethonium chloride, methyl paraben, phenol red, pyridene, ethanol, ethylene chlorophyrin, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum hydrochloride, sodium hydroxide, aluminum sulfate, aluminum potassium sulfate, sorbitol, hydrolized gelatin, carbonic acid, thiosalicylic acid, and formaldehyde (in the form of formalin).

    None of these chemicals are indigenous to the body, yet they’re injected directly into the bloodstreams of two, four, and six month old infants-whose immune systems are not fully developed-bypassing important mucosal immune system barriers, as well as the liver, whose purpose it is
    to filter poisons before it gets into the blood.

    The medical literature and toxicology textbooks rank these chemicals as highly toxic poisons and potent carcinogens. The other component in vaccines-foreign proteins-can act as allergens, in which the most acute reaction may be anaphylactic shock, possibly leading to convulsions and death within minutes.”

  • Andrew Lazarus

    He’s also a Jewish Conspiracy Theorist, which intersects nicely with Drs Salk and Sabin being Jewish.

  • Andrew Lazarus

    You write

    I am surprised that any child survives the following list of chemicals in over 50 vaccines but they will all be damaged for the “cause” = shareholders pockets and nothing else.

    So, given the obvious fact that I believe even you concede that the vast majority of children do survive these vaccines, shouldn’t that be a clue that you don’t know what you are talking about?

  • nworder

    YOU SAID SALK AND SABIN WERE JEWS SO YOU ARE THE CONSPIRACIST .
    I admired Dr Salk’s honesty when he said his vaccine caused all polio outbreaks – whether he was a Jew or not.

    You are a sleekit little creep always looking for an angle
    – you stink pal.

  • nworder

    NO ONE “SURVIVES” A VACCINE – IT WILL KILL OR MAIM TO A GREATER OR LESSOR EXTENT.
    That’s why america has the highest infant death rate.
    And the highest autism rate and millions of sick kids – pin cushions for pharma profit.

  • GoFundMe

    Breaking news from 1883?
    Is that all you can come up with?
    And how can you claim to think for yourself when you refuse to read or view anything that might oppose your views?

  • Correlation equals causation and thus eradication; and their extrapolation numbers claims from the CDC and the WHO, are obviously not valid and nor qualifying here, as opposing views.

  • Go ahead and see if you can counter any of this, and you know with all of your, and that vaccine safety science that you people claim to have, Gofundme, Justthefacts, and Andrew Lazarus? With this information is there any wonder that infants are dying of vaccine caused and so called, SIDS?

    How Vaccine Adjuvants Affect Your Brain
    March 29, 2015
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/03/29/vaccine-adjuvants-brain-effects.aspx

    Dr. Mercola Interviews Dr. Tomljenovic About Vaccine Adjuvants
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVJkzWXG6CQ

    Dr. Paul Offit’s Aluminum Deceptions and Academic Misconduct (one very important article, to read)
    http://vaccinepapers.org/dr-paul-offits-aluminum-deceptions-academic-misconduct/

    Paul Offit-The Real Truth
    http://www.vacfacts.info/paul-offit—the-real-truth.html
    The Defense of Aluminum Adjuvant, Debunked
    http://vaccinepapers.org/rigorous-defense-al-adjuvant-wrong/

    Part 1: Immune Activation and Autism
    http://vaccinepapers.org/rigorous-defense-al-adjuvant-wrong/

    See all posts on Immune Activation

    Part 1: Immune Activation and Autism
    Part 2: Interleukin-6 and Autism
    Part 3: Monkey Experiments
    Part 4: (Coming Soon) Prenatal vs. Postnatal Immune Activation

    http://vaccinepapers.org/immune-activation/

    Scientific Papers Library
    Immune Activation
    http://vaccinepapers.org/scientific-papers-library/

    A More Rigorous Defense of Al Adjuvant, and Why it is Wrong
    http://vaccinepapers.org/rigorous-defense-al-adjuvant-wrong/

    VRM: The Problem With Vaccines Part 2 – Synergistic Effect of Heavy Metal Toxicity On The Body
    http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/?p=6097

    Aluminum Adjuvants – Lack of Safety Data – Lack of Aluminum Adjuvant Safety Studies (Read about the determination of aluminum considered by the FDA as GRAS, generally regarded as safe, thus requiring no safety studies to be done, and for over 80 years now, this has gone on).
    http://www.vacfacts.info/aluminum-vaccine-adjuvants.html

    Dr Suzanne Humphries. Aluminum is toxic to all life forms: The case against aluminum in vaccines.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZe99K12740

    Dr. Chris Shaw discusses the toxic side effects of Aluminum in Vaccines. Oct-21-2009
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsAKoRx60xs&feature=youtu.be

    The Mechanisms of Vaccine Injury and Via Cytokine Storm
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-mechanisms-of-vaccine-injury-and-via-cytokine-storm.html

    Vaccination toxicity: The Zeta phase of MASS and “blood sludging”
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccination-toxicity-the-zeta-phase-of-mass-and-ldquoblood-sludgingrdquo.html

    Vaccine aluminum adjuvant causation of neuroglial activation and neuroinflammation in the brain of patients with autism.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-aluminum-adjuvant-causation-of-neuroglial-activation-and-neuroinflammation-in-the-brain-of-patients-with-autism.html

    Page two of the studies:
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-aluminum-adjuvant-causation-of-neuroglial-activation-and-neuroinflammation-in-the-brain-of-patients-with-autism–page-2.html

  • nworder

    We know that tobacco companies are after just one thing – PROFIT so only a fool would have believed their adverts in the 50’s 60’s that smoking is harmless.

    We know that pharma is after just one thing – PROFIT
    Only a fool would believe anything they say without testing it.
    The millions of deaths they have caused without blinking an eye eg like vioxx , polio etc etc means they put profit before life
    I would no more believe a pharma stooge like Offit than I would a street corner drug dealer.

    And you – are after one thing – trolling cash – so you will do what your masters tell you no matter how many kids are killed or maimed by vaccination and drugs.

    So this is why I would never believe a word you say – you are a bottom feeder – worse even than the pharma executives who have billions to make whereas you are on a few dollars

  • Al Mather

    Truther, anti vaxx, Jewish Conspiracy Theorist…. I’m betting you could get him going on Fluoride, Cannabis Cancer Cure and Chemtrails at a party.. it would all seem so crazy if it wasn’t for HIS NINJA LIKE USE OF CAPS LOCK!!!!!!

  • Andrew Kasch

    “VACCINES KILL MILLIONS AND GIVE EVERYONE THIRD TESTICLES…BECAUSE I SAY IT DOES!!!”

  • nworder

    The two pharma prostitutes admire one another – or maybe three if you count the one next to the dummy – lol

    You are probably the same troll which means a sort of self admiration and we all know what that leads too.

  • GoFundMe

    ” . . . the gargantuan conceit of people who imagine they know more than all the immunologists, pediatricians and public health officials in THE WORLD.”

    I’d say this effectively applies to Hubbs, nworder and Free People:

    http://www.skepticalob.com/2015/05/the-extraordinary-conceitedness-of-being-an-anti-vaxxer.html

  • AutismDad

    The conceit of an industry that was being litigated out of business and only blanket protection from government saved them. An industry that maims and kills babies and preys on the elderly. An industry that is nothing more than bloodsuckers.

  • AutismDad

    Correlation frightens the pro-vacs. That’s why they want to turn awat from it. Proponents have stated there is no point spending time and money on research regarding vaccines and autism, because its been “PROVEN” there’s no connection. Strangely, the behavior and language is the most telling in the guilty.

  • AutismDad

    MERCK called, your cheque is in the mail.

  • AutismDad

    All you post is nonsense. You know squat above vaccine science you fraud.

  • AutismDad

    Yea its a real threesome

  • AutismDad

    They target Natural News because its a real threat.