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Vaccines Will be Made from Human Cancer Tumors

Unbelievably, the method of producing vaccines using cells that are derived directly from human cancer tumors has been approved even though the vaccines may induce cancer in recipients. This method is cheaper and faster than breeding animals for the culture media – and human cancer tumors are readily available.

At a meeting of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in September 2012, the discussion which led to approval was no less than a scandal. [1]

The health authorities and vaccine manufacturers blatantly revealed their uncertainty regarding the safety of vaccines made from cancer tumors. Some of the incredible statements from the meeting are quoted directly. A more detailed account is given in this article. [2]

The statements in italics are directly quoted from the meeting.



The vaccines may cause tumors in recipients

“We have really identified three major factors that could potentially convey risk from tumor derived cells.  And these include the cells themselves … and if they were tumor-derived cells then maybe they themselves could form tumors in a vaccine recipient.” (Dr. K)

A fact: tumor cell lines can cause tumors
“What I think is qualitatively different about the tumor cell lines is the fact that they can cause tumors.”
(Dr.L)

Tumors may occur decades after vaccinations
“But certainly, if you are going to address this question about tumor risk of vaccines made in tumor cell lines, it’s going to have to be a decade’s question.” (Dr.C)

FDA is there to help vaccine manufacturers
“… but we are here to consider the issues that we would like to advise the agency to consider in helping the company continue the manufacturing process, what should they be concerned about, what should they be watching for.” (Dr. D, leader of the meeting)

Doubt regarding test animals for assessing oncogenicity
“I’m not optimistic that we’re going to find animal models to assess oncogenicity of DNA. That’s why I’m feeling that maybe it’s the clearance aspect that we have to deal with, with respect to DNA.” (Dr.P)

Uncertainty about length of time for safety testing
“Are they watching these animals long enough? Should it be longer?” (Dr.D)
“Is it relevant to safety that a cell forms a tumor after a year, a year and a half?”
(Dr.P)

Poor testing for prions including mad cow disease
“There are a lot of things to be done in post-licensure. The field of the BSE (Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy, mad cow disease) is really, in terms of sensitivity, of detection, pretty poor”
(Dr.C)

Doctors and the public may say “Oh, my God”!
How is this group (of vaccines) going to be able to be accepted by the consumers … As soon as you hear “a tumor-derived cell line”, how do you explain that, put the public at ease?” (Dr.B)
“… the practicing medical community and also the lay public. They are going to hear that we are recommending or that the manufacturers are making vaccines with tumorigenic cell lines and say, oh, my God, even if there’s no scientific basis to say, oh, my God.” (Dr.D)

Framing information to convince doctors and the public
“… because it’s a discussion of how one communicates these issues and how the public will perceive them. But I’m not completely sure that we have a complete answer on the fundamental scientific question. So how can you communicate a scientific concensus that the product is safe unless we’re sure that you, the experts we are asking to advise us are convinced that it’s safe?”  (Dr.K)

Plan to hide information and omit it from package inserts
“The minute you describe something in the package insert in terms of potential clinical safety concerns, I think that really precludes using these cell substrates.” (Dr. G)

“When it gets right down to what’s in the vial and what the patient is going to ask me about, whether it’s safe, I’m not going to say, well, you know, HeLa cells kill nude mice.”
(Dr. C)

“I don’t know that our charge is to micromanage the package insert today. I think that’s a new discussion, with lots of issues that we haven’t really aired completely.”
( Dr.D)

Authorities uncertain about safety
“So I’m not sure that we can give a certainty – there’s no risk, don’t worry about this. – It’s sort of a brave new world. We’re all doing it together. But I think that you are doing a beautiful job.” (Dr. D)

Will learn about the risks as time goes by
“… even though there are challenges to using the new technologies, they have to be embraced and we have to continue to try to learn from them and struggle through that learning curve.” (Dr.M)

Leader of the committee says “I’m a vaccine guy”, then suggests approval
“I’m a vaccine guy. They are wonderful to prevent infectious diseases … I hope that I’m speaking for everybody when I say that’s the answer to your question. If not, please chime in now.” (Dr.D)

The committee formally approves the method of making vaccines from human cancer tumors
“To come back to the agency’s question of whether this Committee believes it’s correct scientifically to go forward with the development of these vaccines, our answer is yes.” (Dr.D)

Conclusion

  • Making vaccines with cells that are directly derived from human cancer tumors is faster and cheaper than breeding animals for the culture media.
  • Millions of potentially cancer-causing vaccines will be produced.
  • The vaccines may possibly cause genetic mutations.
  • Millions of dollars will be made by vaccine promoters.
  • The health of millions of consumers may be jeopardized.
  • Information about how these vaccines are made will be hidden from doctors and consumers.

Sometimes reality is even more frightening than horrific science fiction
Millions of consumers will be injected with vaccines which may cause cancer tumors, then cancer tumors will be used to make millions of vaccines. Think about it.

 

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  1. https://www.scribd.com/doc/246682536/FDA-Meeting-Human-Tumors-for-Vaccine-Manufacture
  2. http://sanevax.org/making-vaccines-cancer-cells-safe/
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  • Uk Mom

    I suppose if they simply put cyanide in, there would be a little bit of a backlash…. after all, the clinics would get untidy…. “Do pass around the hors d’oeurvers Dr D…. eye of newt, anyone?” I will pray for these people, (they will hate that) and their poor children who do not know what their parents do for a living. Love and Light.

  • Suzy

    How will this differ from the current practice (for decades) of using media like HeLa cells which are derived from human cancers?

  • Free People

    They’ve been doing this since the 50s with the Simian Green monkey SV40 cancer cells in the fraudulent polio shots that were injected worldwide. Guess the human cancer tumors are cheaper than importing Simian Green monkeys, It’s all about the profit$ folks!

    Bet all these so-called ‘doctors’ have plenty of stock in Cancer INC too.

    All anyone with any common sense can do is REJECT THE INJECT – ALL of them!

  • Johnny Panzer

    No more vaccines for me. I’m done taking them.

  • They have already been making vaccines with cancer cells since the
    1950’s. Massive human experiments have been done with millions of
    people. The Henrietta Lacks “Hella Cells” are uterus cancer cell that
    were found to be known as immortal cells that were also added to the
    Polio Vaccine and over 100 million people were injected with them. http://youtu.be/0gF8bCE4wqA The Polio vaccine also had the SV40 cancer causing virus that came from monkey cells. http://youtu.be/Q8M3HOqOAdU
    – So people were being injected with human and monkey cancer cells. The
    perfect ingredient to protect future profits for the sickness industry.

  • VaccineRisks

    Yes this is the first time that the method of producing vaccines using cells that are derived directly from human cancer tumors will be used. The article gives a link to the long discussion with details which lead to approval.

  • Tammy Brown

    me too! done!

  • notsofree

    The general public is so mesmerized by anything medical or vaccine, this will be a shoe in!!

    The only ones wrong in this debate, are those who oppose!!

    I can see it now, Walgreens and CVS will have their little lawn signs advertising “tumor derived vaccines” leading the customer with arrows to the open front door. Of course no one will know what it’s for, but that won’t matter because insurance pays and it comes from a drug store so it must be “good!!”

    Give these docs who are raising concerns some $$$$ and cruises and they will pipe down!!

    This will stimulate the economy and guarantee the cancer industry money from both ends (procurement of specimen and treatment of new cases)for the next 100 years.

    The Non-partisan CBO will score this expense as a preventative measure, the treasury will print more money and cancer will be renamed (to dystrophia or some such nonsense) the vaccine industry will be seen as the savior for eliminating cancer, and all us cooks will be dead and our children, the ones with courage to resist, will be called public (health) enemy #1!!!

  • Guest

    No Robert4health is correct, they have used the HeLa cell line and
    the SV40 cancer line.The truth is much worth than we can imagine.

  • 1coin2sides

    Please read, “The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks” It is a fascinating read and will give you accurate unbiased information about HeLa cells, where they came from, what they have been used for, etc. As well as a good look into a part of American history. Also, only parts of the meeting are quoted in this article and while they may be accurate it is still not the whole truth and I won’t be jumping on either bandwagon until I read the entire transcript. I’m sure vacciners and anti-vacciners could read the same transcripts and both pull out snippits that fit with their agenda. Don’t blindly follow either side, do your own factual research (not just reading someone’s opinions, even if they are “medical professionals”) and form your own personal intelligent opinion. We need more people who think for themselves in this country instead of blindly following one movement or another… :p

  • Diane H

    my children & myself, done!!!

  • shulkman

    Poorly written article. No research. Just a nasty sounding topic, nasty looking photo, and zero info about how these vaccines would be used. Are they using the tumor cells themselves from the patient to create an “tumor vaccine” that attacks that patients specific tumor cells. There’s a lot of research that this could go into, but you’ve just called it a vaccine to whip up the frenzy.

  • Did you read the meeting minutes?

  • jendem

    Yes I did read the minutes. But we should not have to read the minutes in order to get some FACTS. It is difficult to get through the jargon and professional references. I still don’t know what the heck they are talking about and it seems neither does the author of this “article”.

  • I was referring to Shulkman, unless you and he/her are the same?

  • shulkman

    Attempted to read the minutes in the 2nd source. I think the subject matter discussed is set for years in the future. It’ll be real medicine by the time it comes out. Besides, there’s no secret group of doctors that need to create a new way to give people cancer… We, the people, are giving ourselves cancer all the time without any additional help.

  • rachael

    yes great book! i also recommend it

  • When will you finish reading it? I’m also curious how you came to the conclusion you did without reading the meeting minutes?

  • winston smith

    Perhaps if the attendees of this meeting had to inject themselves with some cancer derived cells first before approving it, then they might be more inclined to reject this preposterous notion? But of course, they wouldn’t want to do that especially since they all have a vested interest by being financially rewarded for approving this insidious plan for their “brave new world”, now would they?

  • Informeommie03

    Yup! We’ll said!

  • Hungarianlady

    Amen to that….

  • VaccineRisks

    The information about how the vaccines may be used and method of manufacture of the vaccines using cells that are derived directly from human cancer tumors is given in detail in the transcript.

  • Proponent

    Here are some ‘facts’, jendem;

    “Trial tests cancer vaccine made from tumor cells”

    “Trial: DMS cancer surgeon Richard Barth, M.D., having seen many cases of metastatic colorectal cancer over the course of his career, does research aimed at giving physicians better tools to use against the disease. Years of effort developing a vaccine in mice led recently to a clinical trial in which patients were treated with a mixture made up of immune cells and bits of tumors, both taken from each individual patient to create personalized vaccines.

    All of the 26 patients in the study had colorectal cancer that had spread to the liver. The initial tumors in the colon or rectum had been removed some time earlier, but the
    cancer had returned. About three weeks after surgeons removed the metastatic tumors from the liver, the research team—which included Barth, research assistant Dawn Fisher, and other physicians and scientist—created the vaccines. They took blood samples from each patient and kept them in conditions that fostered the growth of dendritic cells, a type of immune cell that activates the immune system by alerting other cells to the presence of a threat. They then added bits of proteins from each patient’s tumor, which the dendritic cells engulfed and displayed on their surfaces. The proteins presented on the dendritic cells are the immune system’s version of a “Wanted” poster, alerting the immune system that cells with those specific proteins are a threat. Those dendritic cells were then injected back into the patient’s lymph nodes, where they activated T cells to find and destroy tumor cells with those antigens.

    The idea is that the T cells that are activated by the dendritic cells can . . . find these little tumor cells and kill them before they have a chance to grow,” Barth says.

    The first milestone for the study was to measure how many of the patients had an immune response. Two of the 26 already had metastases before the vaccine was given; both died within a year of vaccination. And the blood samples taken from two other patients did not have enough cells to conduct all the analyses of the immune response.

    But 11 of the other 22 patients developed
    an immune response.

    Survived: But 11 of the other 22 patients developed an immune response to the vaccine within one week of treatment. Of those 11, seven (64%) survived without a recurrence of cancer for at least five years. And of the 11 patients who did not develop an immune response within one week, only two (18%) survived five years without a
    recurrence. The vaccine seemed to have made a difference in those patients who responded to it. The researchers published the results in the journal Clinical Cancer Research.”

    (Source: http://dartmed.dartmouth.edu/spring11/html/disc_trial.php )

    “CONCLUSION:

    Adjuvant treatment of patients after resection of colorectal metastases with an autologous tumor lysate-pulsed, DC vaccine-induced, tumor-specific immune responses in a high proportion of patients. There was an
    association between induction of tumor-specific immune responses and RFS. Activation of this DC vaccine with CD40L did not lead to increased immune responses.”

    (Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20884622 )

    Might be promising research for another anti-cancer vaccine.. that’s a good thing, right?

  • Richard Wahd

    I can’t believe a doctor would actually write “I’m a vaccine guy”… I hope someone hits him so hard over the head, that he’ll need a 12 foot stepladder to kiss a snake’s belly. All those classes, studying, tests, degrees and he says “I’m a vaccine guy” – his parents must be so proud (sarcasm alert).

  • VaccineRisks

    HeLa cells are used for research and have been used for research in developing vaccines but not as substrates/media for vaccine production.

    Only parts of the meeting are quoted, the transcript is 200+ pages. A link to the entire meeing is given in the article.
    The committee at FDA which has approved the method for manufacture of vaccines from human cancer tumors is openly concerned that the vaccines may induce cancers in vaccine recipients.
    The Food and Drug Administration is pro-vaccine and its opinion can surely not be doubted:
    Vaccines made from human cancer tumors may induce cancer in recipients.

  • VaccineRisks

    The doctor who said “I’m a vaccine guy” was the leader of the committee at FDA which approved the method for making vaccines from human cancer tumors.

  • VaccineRisks

    HeLa cells are used for research and have been used for research in developing and testing vaccines but not as substrates/culture media for vaccine production.
    This is the first time that the method of producing vaccines using cells that are derived directly from human cancer tumors has been approved.

  • Dr. Strahlenbrand

    So HeLa cells for example are immortal.. they were taken from a tumor found in one Henrietta Lacks in the 60s and are being cultured to this day. You can buy HeLa over the internet, maybe not on Amazon but from research suppliers. What makes HeLa interesting is those cells never enter the cellular state of senescence, that is the final state a cell enters where it will not divide again. It stays in that state until cell death. Well HeLa cells are immortal. If you are injected with HeLa unless your immune system removes them they will keep on dividing in your body, sending out peptide hormones to get hooked up to your blood supply andgrow into full fledged tumors that then metastasize all over your body. I can imagine this might be the case in immune supressed individuals like you people here. You are you just don’t know it .. yet.

    Bet you the cancer cells they will be using they will start out with HeLa. Even with the best conceivable filters there will always be one or two HeLa cells in 1ml of injectable solution. But then given the fact that rare cancer causing viruses are found in vaccines, you can expect the incidence of HeLa cells probably 15 times as high or rather whatever it takes to get a 30% increase in cancer cases.

    Because that is what it is about. We don’t just want to kill you we obviously want you to suffer tremendously and beg us for the “treatments” and give us all your money too while we are at it. I understand that most people in this world need to stop drawing breaths. There really is no need for you anymore. However where I draw the line is when it gets ugly and we cause unnecessary suffering. There have always been gentler ways to eradicate populations within a relatively short amount of time, the easiest and most effective being starvation and denial of fluids. I assure you starving to death is way better than dying from bone cancer and also beats colon cancer any day too. You can develop a tumor in any tissue from your inner organs to your big toe. Pain medication has its limits. We can’t give arbitrary doses of dilaudid to cancer patients. Marijuana or rather THC and CBD have their limits too. I have heard cancer patients shriek in agony for hours until there voices gave out but there was nothing we could do about it.

    We do inhuman things, please consider yourselves warned and stay the hell away from vaccines.

  • Jakob Stagg

    The question of safety will not be a consideration. The only question is how much money will it make. There will never be a prevention or cure. It isn’t profitable.

  • AutismDad

    Was it Paul (4 profit) Offit? Sounds like his mentality. Remember his claim a baby could handle 100,000 vaccines in a day, then he later changed to 10,000? WOW he’s considered the MAN when it comes to vaccine intelligence. The other two are Larry and Moe…nuck nuck

  • AutismDad

    No they enjoy torturing animals with it and slapping each other on the back as they peer review each others work.

  • AutismDad

    So how often do you volunteer to test vaccines? Just think how healthy you’d become….like Super Man

  • AutismDad

    Why are people’s dendritic and T cells not already working? Why does it require a vaccine to make them work?

  • AutismDad

    Here’s his conclusion: DUH!

  • AutismDad

    I’ll wait for the movie

  • AutismDad

    Other than my few chilhood vaccines in the 50’s I’ve never had another. I’m healthy and fit and I’m not dying of a pandemic. But according to health officials who seem afraid of their own shadows, I’m as good as dead.

  • AutismDad

    Your needle is stuck

  • Tim

    “How is this group (of vaccines) going to be able to be
    accepted by the consumers … As soon as you hear “a tumor-derived cell
    line”, how do you explain that, put the public at ease?” (Dr.B)
    Easy, learn from the GMO community and label them as Natural vaccines…………..

  • Proponent

    To quote you, yourownself;

    “Why ask a nonsense question?”

  • FireUrEngine

    They are killing us slowly. How do you control a population by the very few:

    1. Kings
    2. Pope
    3. Presidents
    4. Prime Ministers
    5. Central Banks
    6. United Nations
    7. New World Committees: Council On Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, and the dozen other groups spearheaded by Rockefeller family
    8. Jesuits (Freemasons, Knights of Malta, Skull & Bones, etc. )

  • AKA Adimi

    Don’t worry, most people will buy into anything.

    I know a bunch of sheeple that wont bat an eye.

  • Hank Buck

    So there was a meeting on this over 2 years ago. Was it approved at that meeting or just discussed? If it was just discussed, when and where did it get approved?

  • Sir TuberKopf

    If Fukushima is any example, anything like low level radiation that takes 10 to 15 years to kill healthy adults is not a problem.

    Health officials will ignore the risk for the sake of profits, the sheeple don’t understand it, because they won’t look up from their NFL game, and the politicians will just kick the can down the road while they stomp and whine about gun control and abortion!

  • VaccineRisks

    The answers to your questions are in the article. The method of producing vaccines from cells that are derived directly from human cancer tumors was approved at the meeting. The article gives a direct quote of the approval.

  • guest

    The Sept 2012 meeting was the approval meeting.

    If the industry is using immortal cancer cells they will quickly run into the same problem Maurice Hilleman ran into. The cells are uncontrollable. If the cells could be controlled cancer would be eradicated. This is a statement from “Fear of the Invisible” by Janine Roberts written after a decade of attending government level vaccine meetings in the US and in Europe.:

    Dr Heyrick told of how the eminent Dr Maurice Hilleman, the scientist I earlier
    interviewed about the MMR vaccine, had used what he thought was an
    ‘intestine-based cell line’ to make an adenovirus vaccine, only to discover to his horror that his cell line had been invaded and taken over by the aggressive cervical cancer virus known as HeLa. For those not familiar with HeLa here is a brief synopsis:

    In 1951 the first human cells were grown in long-term tissue
    culture. These were cervical cancer cells from a woman named Henrietta Lacks, who died of the disease, but whose name, in shortened form, lives on in the designation of the culture: HeLa. HeLa cells proved to be amazingly robust. Whenever any slight slip-up in laboratory procedures allowed one or two HeLa cells to contaminate some other tissue
    culture, then within a matter of weeks the new cells would outgrow and completely displace the old. Since most tissue cultures look much alike, these contaminations and takeovers often passed unnoticed. This fact had large ramifications: Scientists who thought they were studying cultures of benign human prostate cells, or human breast cancer cells, or monkey heart cells, etc., etc., were in fact studying HeLa, often spending years of wasted effort. Moreover, because their cultures were growing so well, these researchers were eager to share their particularly hardy strain of “breast cancer” with their colleagues.

    The HeLa affair was an extraordinary, worldwide scientific debacle with much greater impact on human welfare than, for instance, such well-known scientific achievements as putting a man on the moon. It is one of the major episodes of twentieth-century science, yet it has been hushed up so thoroughly that few even know of its existence. The fight
    against cancer, and much other scientific research, was greatly compromised, and an unknown, but surely large, number of lives.
    What Happens When Science Goes Bad: http://www.whale.to/a/pascal.html

    Mad scientist have been working on this for over a decade. The problem is going to be the same problem that scientist have run into with HeLa, runaway cells that can’t be controlled.

  • walcon

    9. Taxes.

  • walcon

    Those who took the chip are dumb enough.
    I’m grateful they sacrifice themselves.~~

  • AutismDad

    Hardly a nonsense question. Are immune systems not working because they lack vaccines? Just admit you can’t answer any decent questions.

  • Kevin G.

    Completely insane aren’t they? Hoping that ALL of us are too!

  • Mel T

    They already did that giving us spirochetal disease knowing it could not be killed by any means known to man from a woman’s cells who died of spirochetal induced cancers. HeLa.
    “The Turd in the Punchbowl” that contaminated all cell lines forever! NOW we all have the real cause of AIDS they continue to give you in vaccines they KNOW have no means to decontaminate. Which is why they look to Insect and Plants to share their genes now to grow and recombine in the prion synergy of your infections in your neuron’s they KNOW you already have.
    http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5147
    The FACT is they had rather keep adding to the gene sharing stealth than treat any of you for the real cause of ALL Syndromes, Psych, and Cancers they gave us for decades in infectious vaccines now being carried in ALL vectors of disease because they got IT from us!

  • mothman777

    Simple genocide.Transmitting disease in this manner is already a well-established method.

    But who will have the guts to do anything meaningful about it, in such a manner as to put a stop to this? Only many millions of people protesting physically in the streets together can accomplish such a thing.

    In 1939, Raymond Royal Rife released the Beam Machine, that could provenly cure 100% of even the most severe cancer cases, and 100% of all cases of pathogenic diseases, yet the Roosevelt Chosenite US government of the day hid that machine away, condemning hundreds of millions to die around the world, which is the ultimate crime and hypocrisy.

    We have been being murdered in hundreds of millions ever since then. Ask the Chosenite US government to release that machine and put a stop to the mass genocide of all the non-Chosenites.

  • tomonthebay

    Uh, message to you folks. If you want to make a vaccine for a cancer you have to use cancer cells or portions thereof to stimulate the immune response you are looking for. Vaccines will never eliminate all cancers, but it is a viable and reasonable research avenue to prevent at least some of them.

  • Eve L Newsom

    CANCER is NOT a Virus, it’s a complex system of malfunctioning cells gone awry….., so the same principals & theories that pertain to Viral Vaccines does not apply!

  • VaccineRisks

    This issue is about this fact:
    Millions of recipients will now unnecessarily have increased risk of cancer because of vaccines which are manufactured from cells that are derived directly from human cancer tumors.

  • Mel T

    Antibodies in the immune suppression they already have means infectious, not protection. There will NEVER be a vaccine for anything that works because of what they gave us for decades. Gene sharing stealth bioweapons.

  • Mel T

    Because they gave us all the real cause of AIDS for decades. Vaccines NEVER treat what we already HAVE! They can jab with with junk till the cows come home and we all fall down like ring around the rosy all over again and their junk will still recombine in the infections we already have to grow!

  • Mel T

    I beg your pardon……Spirochetal prion proteins have no known means to decontaminate? Not in our waters, our air, or the soil. They were used for vaccines for decades and still contaminating cell lines in the over 95% of the pops infected from those infectious vaccines. That is why they tried to get away with using INSECT and Plants until they were told they too are infectious making them criminals.
    http://vimeo.com/9581140
    They KNEW Henrietta Lacks died of seronegative Syphilis induced Cancers and used her cells anyway and on purpose!!!
    You can’t burn them, wash them, or filter them. Even high dose gamma radiation does not kill them. We have no more time to waste on stupid.
    http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5147&start=10

  • Mel T

    The Immortal Proteins that give her cells life is already growing in our skin, guts, and brains they refuse to help the people treat. They recombine with what ever they want to survive. The real cause of all Cancers is and always was infections and now infections they gave us for decades.
    http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5147&start=10
    The criminals couldn’t stand the thought of letting people live into the hundreds so they made sure every yr. our life expectancy is shorter. With avg. today less than 60 and when the baby boomers are gone it’s all down hill with 1 in 29 babies now being born severely multiply infected called Autisms they also refuse to help save!

  • tomonthebay

    Actually that is not correct. Vaccines work by stimulating an immune response to a protein. That is not limited to viruses.

  • tomonthebay

    Hears a thought, learn some science and English.

  • tomonthebay

    As they say in court, assuming facts not in evidence.

  • AutismDad

    It won’t be mentioned or offered. They are masters of cover up.

  • AutismDad

    So how does using cancer cells replicate an attacking infectious virus? How do mercury, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80, and aluminum mimic an attacking, infectious virus?

  • Karin

    Use of tumor cell lines (not actual tumors) is nothing new in vaccine production – It’s been going on for decades! Look up “HeLa”.

  • The approval in September 2012 was for a new method for vaccine manufacture.

    Near the beginning of the link, highlighted, there’s a short explanation about the differences between
    – continuous cell lines
    – tumorigenic cell lines
    – tumor derived cell lines

    The approval is for tumor derived cell lines. There is an explanation there:

    “Tumor derived cell lines are cells linearly descended from tumor cells”.

    It is the first time that this method has been approved for vaccine manufacture.

    https://www.scribd.com/doc/246682536/FDA-Meeting-Human-Tumors-for-Vaccine-Manufacture

    It’s a complicated subject!

  • Patrick McGean

    The idea that vaccines work at all if the deception. Please share one incidence where vaccinations solved any problems, some believe vaccinations cause cancer, this must be the great roundy round in chemistry.
    Hang the chemists.
    Got sulfur?

  • guest

    If you want to make a vaccine for a cancer you have to use cancer cells
    or portions thereof to stimulate the immune response you are looking
    for.

    Problem with this is vaccines can never be purified. Vaccines are made from a host of unsavory bits and pieces of “stuff”. Naked DNA & RNA genetic codes, cells from dogs, birds, pigs, bovine, monkey’s, viruses, proteins, enzymes, chemicals and perhaps oncogenes and prion. These ingredients are in the base material of the current vaccines. If there is going to be a “cancer vaccine” (I don’t believe there will be but they will throw billions of dollars at it and make some people very rich) vaccine researcher/makers had better figure out how to purify vaccines and remove the current cancer causing ingredients in them.

    Highly contaminated vaccines
    Written by Janine Roberts
    Extract from chapter of the book “Fear of the Invisible”

    If you want to know about vaccines and the people that make them, read Roberts two books: Fear of the Invisible and “The Vaccine Papers”. She writes about how the vaccine makers cannot reach the purification levels set forth by the government-so they don’t try.

    ” Dr Becky Sheets from CBER then confirmed the suspicions of many
    when she responded. ‘I think that the vast majority of licensed
    vaccines, U.S. licensed vaccines, have not been tested for residual DNA. The few that have been tested are the ones that have been licensed in the last few years, including varicella and Hepatitis A.’

    She then added: ‘I wanted to respond to an earlier question regarding how purified are live viral vaccines [like MMR] – [the answer is] minimally purified.’
    These presentations made some of the experts very uneasy. Dr.
    Desrosiers stated: ‘I don’t worry so much about the agents that one can
    test for. I worry about the agents that you can’t test for, that you
    don’t know about. Dr Greenberg agreed, He said he was: ‘worried also
    about the agents that aren’t known’. He continued: ‘There are still countless thousands of undiscovered viruses, proteins, and similar particles. We have only identified a very small part of the microbial world – and we can only test for those we have identified. Thus the vaccine cultures could contain many unknown particles.’ Another doctor said: ‘As time goes on, of course, new viruses are discovered and new problems arise.”

    “I also learnt that DNA fragments contaminating vaccine lots might be
    from dead cells but nevertheless remained extremely active and
    dangerous. Dr Golding feared they might combine with other genetic codes contaminating the vaccine lots – and thus create a mutant viral strain that could even get in the individual doses of vaccine.

    The removal of this contaminating DNA has proved impossible. The US
    government in 1986 recommended a weight limit for contaminating DNA of 100 picograms per vaccine dose. But the manufacturers could not meet
    this safety recommendation, as was explained at this Workshop. Their
    failure again led the government to relax its standards, applying the
    100 picograms limit solely to vaccines produced from cancerous cells,
    and allowing one hundred times as much contaminating DNA (10 nanograms) in vaccines produced on other types of cells. But the meeting was told that vaccine manufacturers now admitted they could not meet even this lower standard of ‘purity.’ Thus high levels of hazardous DNA pollution remain in many vaccines.

    This failure was a great concern to the meeting. Many of the doctors present worried that such a great amount of DNA fragments
    might cause viral mutations in the vaccines. ‘Naked’ DNA (with no
    protein coat) is known to be highly reactive. Dr. Phil Krause calculated; ‘If there are 10 nanograms of residual DNA per dose, which is the current WHO recommendation, and if two doses were recommended per child, as is the case with MMR vaccine, and the infectivity of viral DNA in the vaccine were comparable to that of purified polyoma virus
    DNA, we can calculate the theoretical infectivity risk. … For a
    vaccine that is universally administered to the 4 million children born
    in the US every year, this would represent about 500 infections per
    year, clearly an unacceptable rate.’

    This shocked me. If he was right, and it seemed he was (none of the
    experts present questioned his calculations), this surely meant the
    current MMR vaccine is potentially very dangerous. Krause also had only added up the risk from the one vaccine. What when to it is added the contaminating DNA in all the other vaccines?”

    If the industry hasn’t figured out how to “cleanup” the current vaccine stock I don’t foresee the creation of a cancer vaccine and I don’t see the successful use of “tumors cell linings” for use in vaccine production for obvious reasons.

  • AutismDad

    They aren’t only talking about a cancer vaccine, its for cultivating any vaccine they want.

  • AutismDad
  • Mel T

    Yes it does! Because in gene sharing stealth infections they share those junk genes to recombine and grow in gross recombinations.

    This is proven, not theory. All cancers come from infections just like they always did only now we already have the immune suppression those infections caused given to us in vaccines for decades.

    Just like seen in any real AIDS pts. today suffering all manner of syndromes, psych, and cancers criminals caused in the infectious vaccines they gave us all.
    http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5147&start=20

  • Mel T

    There is a group organizing the Occupy USDOJ in May 2015 where they will bring all abused groups and the Science to the doors of Justice for change. They ask all Autism, Alzheimers, MS, ALS, Lupus, Parkinson’s, Diabetes, Crohn’s, Celiac, Arthritis’, GWS, PTSD, ALD, MD, ME, CFS, CPS, Kawasaki’s, Down’s, and hundreds of other neurologically abused to join the Occupy movement where the Science will WIN the WAR for TRUTH! Symbolically scheduled from May 30 to the 4th. of July. But the people are not leaving until Justice is served!
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/OccupyUSDOJ/

  • Mel T

    If everyone knew that AIDS/MADCOW/LYME was always the same thing they would just all die in the poor house instead of all of US dying of syndromes, psych, and cancers with no treatment for the cause!!!

  • Mel T

    Spirochetal prion proteins are a blast once they recombine to grow in your skin, guts, and brains. Then they tell you–Oh you just have low vitamin D and some kind of neurological sindumb and maybe a little gland disease here and there, no biggie.
    And oh yeah. Sorry but your kids just have failure to prune synapsis’, and oh yeah—your not going to live to be over 60 so just go ahead and give us your estate……
    http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5147&sid=fcbe7fb82f5fb1b4fd8e1ab6f942e3f0&start=10

  • Becki

    for profit prisons and slave labor used in them.

  • Becki

    nobody even reads the vaccine inserts or asks. The flu vac insert states that is has never been tested on pregnant women yet it is promoted for pregnant women….

  • 9mm

    Trillions in the military. Wasted on stupidity. More trillions waste on grosssssss stupidity and futility. Welcome to the age of vigilantism. Open season on Uberus. For uberus will kill everyone. It is obvious pop control 101 is on line. Let us not be sheep and get a 9mm and declate clear cut action onUberus followers. Only one language Uberus white collar freaks ppl understandt. Specially arrogant M.Ds that bought their diploma and receive grants from corporate nazi the big Pharma. Cures for cancer? Only a retard ignores the many around. Testing vaccines on humans? Pop control 101? We shall see. Welcome to the age of respinse ability. Civility and open season on uberus

  • AutismDad

    They recommend selling vaccines, that’s all. Now that you can’t sue them, they can experiment on anyone even pregnant women.

  • AutismDad
  • mothman777

    Excellent news. They might also take the opportunity to look into brain and neurological damage caused by premature clamping of the umbilical cord after birth, as according to Dr Mercola’s reports on this issue, 95% of all children in the US suffer their umbilical cords being clamped immediately, or within seconds of birth, when the baby still has between 30% to 50% of it’s blood waiting to be pumped into it’s body, which obviously causes a very substantial degree of mental handicap to the future slave class for the ‘Chosenites’, suitable for purposes of rendering them docile and submissive. Those senior consultants and state medical department officials that control how medical procedures are performed continue to teach their underlings how to do this, and the vast majority of young state midwives and nurses will sadly most likely be unaware of the harm that these procedures cause. Even those that are aware, will in any case be bound by the accepted mode of conduct of their ‘profession’ to sever or clamp the umbilical cord prematurely in any case.

    The severe damage that this will cause to the newly-born has been known for over 200 years. The umbilical cord should be left alone for at least a full twenty minutes, not twenty seconds, until there is no longer a pulse in the umbilical cord, when the cord should have turned quite pale. No one should let ‘doctors’ sever or clamp the cord prematurely, though if you let them take control with their air of ‘authority’ and ‘experience’, they will go right ahead unless you can stop them somehow. This usually always occurs particularly when the mother has had the baby delivered by Caesarean, and is unconscious, so you need someone present at that time to stop that procedure happening.

    If blood loss to the mother after Caesarean procedure is the excuse, then surely, it would be far better for a mother to have a transfusion, rather than to cut off the baby’s blood supply, as permanently damaging the baby to prevent the mother being short of blood through having had surgery rather defeats the entire purpose of having a baby in the first place, if it is then immediately handicapped. The baby has it’s own designated blood supply anyway in the placenta, and that itself should not necessitate the mother having the umbilical cord severed as a matter of necessity.

    Interestingly, in a table that was shown on the Jeff Rense site a few years ago, Israeli children were shown to suffer almost the lowest rate of iatrogenic damage in the entire world, and what a coincidence that is. I am sure that they don’t subject their babies to the violence that ours are subjected to by the Chosenite doctors who control medical policy in many countries around the world.

  • emily

    Thankyou for including the link to pascals passionate and cogent testimony! It was a gripping read.

  • Mel T

    The Israeli’s are much more Immune Suppressed and multiply infected than American’s. Their disgusting ritual of ages of ignorance of letting their priests suck on the penis of every male child born is giving each one all of the infections the one’s before had!!!

    You CANNOT kill spirochetal prion proteins, You CANNOT decontaminate spirochetal prion proteins!!! And they KNOW over 95% of the pops are infected with Epstein Borreliosis.

    Because of their genetic makeup and HLA types they make be the one’s who get the most PSYCHIATRIC symptoms instead of the MS/Arthritic types of symptoms see in any REAL AIDS sufferers.
    You don’t slaughter people for over 60yrs. just because they are not your kind and pretend to be God’s Chosen and NOT be mad!
    http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5147&start=20

  • Mel T

    Harvard approved themselves! Where do people think we got AIDS/MADCOW/LYME currently known as Syndromes, Psych, and Cancers? Infective cell lines with NO known means to decontaminate.
    http://vimeo.com/9581140
    Harvard and Yale just don’t want to go to jail and have all their assets confiscated to treat millions for the real cause!!! AND stop fetal transmission in at least 85% of Autism!
    http://www.lymeneteurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=5147&start=20

  • Truthwarrior59

    the more I learn about vaccines, Ebola, Aids, GMO, medications and future predictions, the more I can only say that true madness has set in in some scientific communities. Why would anyone even consider using these cells? This reminds me of a bad movie with a mad scientist trying to create a creature. These scientists all have illusions of grandeur and are messing with viruses, bacteria and other things which can only be observed under the microscope and are completely unpredictable meaning they can become deadly. According to Randy Trent, PhD, the more they “mess” with a virus, the more it mutates, completely changing its original form and BECOMING COMPLETELY UNPREDICTABLE AND WORST OF ALL UNTREATABLE. This is a most frightening scenario. People are always so worried about the various terrorist groups out there and we should worry to some extent, however, a more frightening scenario is being poisoned or vaccinated by ignorant and arrogant morons who have unleashed a monster they cannot control. GMO food alone is enough to cause serious harm to us. Then find out about Glyphosate and tell me this is not scary beyond belief. If you have the capability to see the truly big picture, or better if you dare to see the big picture, you will be scared to death. I am not easily scared nor do I believe in doomsday predictions. I am level-headed but I am also a realist and know that science has crossed the line quite a while ago. If they continue on this path we will all suffer the consequences.

  • whisper

    What ever happened to ” Informed consent”? Please folks, let’s put these F*CKERS out of business by REFUSING the vaccination programs that are mandated by the FEDS.

  • For me, one of the primary issues is government intervention in the marketplace. If the government (and ultimately, we the taxpayers) did not absolve the vaccine manufacturers, government agencies and researchers of any liability and responsibility, the market would determine very quickly whether the benefit-risk ratio is compatible with public (and individual) health policy. The other aspect is the freedom to choose medical procedures. The decision should be between the patient and physician, without interference from government and pharmaceutical companies.

  • mothman777

    You will have fun reading this article then, if you are not already familiar with this stated cause of large numbers of schizophrenics within the Jewish people, which is due not only to their inbreeding, but also to a treatable organism that occurs in many schizophrenics and is found in their spinal fluid, cytomegalovirus, related to herpes (hmm, the spread of this is probably related to the filthy rabbinical baby cock-sucking habit) which produces a corkscrew-shaped protein in the brain, hence the term ‘screwy’ being applied to people with this condition.

    http://thisiszionism.blogspot.co.uk/2008/03/evidence-that-jews-are-carriers-of.html

    Dr Hutsnekker (former doctor to President Nixon) stated that Jews ought to get treatment for this with antibiotics, and thus remove much of the cause of the illness that made them so sociopathic and so ill-liked because of their behaviour, but they never have done, it seems, too loopy to care as they annihilate all life on this planet.

    A mental health section order would be most appropriate to encourage those Jews (and any others to whom the virus has been spread) who are obviously rabidly insane, to compel them to be examined for the cytomegalovirus and to make sure that those infected are effectively treated for the virus, but …, they craftily work to occupy senior political and medical posts in many governments (megalomania is a part of the psychological profile in those whose illness is produced by that virus, just as other specific personality abnormalities are exhibited by sufferers of syphilis etc.,) and so cunningly prevent the possibility of that occurring. A bit like ‘Invasion of the Body-Snatchers’ maybe, but which is the alien organism responsible I wonder, the Jewish racial soul or the cytomegalovirus, I wonder which has the most cunning to accomplish it’s intended goal of killing ‘every living thing that breathes’, or maybe it is just an obvious case of ‘birds of a feather flock together’.

  • Mel T

    When the Bee’s are all dead from using fecal steath infected wastes as fertilizers on GMO junk gene crops there won’t be anyone who cares who did what…. LOL

  • nats

    We will have to have the guts. As you mentioned ‘transmitting disease in this manner’ – yes, I know from a reliable source, a medical doctor (!!!) who volunteered in Africa that they re-used the same single use syringes and needles many times a few years ago to vaccinate people there against I think it was polio. Unbelievable – you would assume they had some training in infection control!!! So spreading HIV like that is more than plausible, actually quite likely, planned or not. More recently, nuns in a hospital in some African country were the first ones to cause the recent massive Ebola outbreak – again, by vaccinating and infecting pregnant mums with the same single-use syringes and needles they re-used many times! Crudely unconscious/ misguided if not and evil plan! By the way, Rife therapy etc. is alive: The medics have taken it over, renamed it ‘Sonotherapy’ and a lot of research is now being done on it!!!$$$

  • nats

    True, patriarchic shit as usual. But part of the problem is that most people, ie. medical doctors, cannot think for themselves. First they clamp your cord and then they give you the Hepatitis B shot…so I am not surprised.

  • mothman777

    Thanks for the fascinating link, and I find the view of changing of one organism into another, due to varying conditions within the bodily environment, via pleomorphism, another great science, that can be viewed actually happening in live blood under a dark field microscope.

    Here is another link to show that cytomegalovirus (related to herpes), found in the spinal fluid in a very high percentage of those said to be suffering with so-called ‘schizophrenia’, when cured with antiviral medication, results in the curing also of ‘schizophrenic’ psychiatric symptoms.

    As the person who invented current vaccination practices admitted on his deathbed, the incidence of pathogen-related illness is not due merely to the presence of the organism, but rather more to the condition of the individual in whom the organism presents itself.

    ‘Reduction of Symptoms by Valacyclovir in Cytomegalovirus-Seropositive Individuals With Schizophrenia’ http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.ajp.160.12.2234

  • freedom defender

    Next their going to tell us that to find out if the new technology of growing a limb back, is that first we need to cut off your existing functional limb. Who are these idiots that are trying to sell death to society? Get a rope! Unfortunately there are way too many sheep in this country.

  • AutismDad

    They seem drawn to the most dangerous and toxic substances. They wallow in deception, deceit, and have truly criminal minds. Since they are highly protected, its as if they want to go where no humane man has gone before while they still can. Its nothing short of Nazi-like experimentation on other humans with psychopathic and sociopathic zeal.

  • AutismDad

    Shush, they’ll make a vaccine for uberus and make it mandatory for children to enter school.

  • Lea

    True….but unfortunately, the physicians are also owned by the
    pharmaceutical companies……and it appears most cannot be
    trusted, especially when it comes to vaccines

  • Vick

    America is way down at 34 for “Life Expectancy by Country” according to Wikipedia. Can you say, “Profitable Population Control of Stupid Profitable-Junk-Food Addicted Sheeple”?

  • LesBaer1911

    The polio vaccine of the 50’s and 60’s and tens of thousand given after the vaccine was banned also
    had cancer cells imbedded in the vaccine, SV40. Killed thousands of children.

  • keia peterson jaggy

    as well as gave millions of ppl soft tissue, lung & bone cancer according to ‘Dr. Mary’s Monkey’. if you look at cancer charts in those areas, you will notice the rapid increase starting in mid 70’s. this was from growing the polio virus on contaminated monkey kidneys, between the early 50’s & 60’s……

  • keia peterson jaggy

    yes, if your name ends in M.D., it is legal to kill. M.D.’s & hospitals are responsible for more deaths than disease in this country, where it’s ILLEGAL to cure cancer. & THERE ARE MANY CURES & more importantly, MANY MORE PREVENTIONS! like SELF education!

  • keia peterson jaggy

    yes, MOST physicians, NOT all…….

  • keia peterson jaggy

    the greatest ‘threat’ is FEAR, which feeds the beasts. you are absolutely correct, tho we can empower ourselves by not ‘buy in’ to their fear tactics. the ONLY way to vote these days is w/your $$$$$$, therefore, educate yourself & loved ones on who supports who & ONLY support those who support YOU! NEVER eat gmo’s, aspartame, do NOT use microwaves, avoid plastic & processed foods, KNOW your water source & how to clean it up for safe consumption, you can drink essiac tea to maintain a healthy system as well as probiotics for digestive tract. KNOW your source of any and ALL supplements (i.e. walleyworlds brand of chewable Vit C contains aspartame & other artificial sweeteners & a variety of dyes). DO NOT allow your local power company to install (LOL) ‘smart meters’ on your home, condo, business, apartment, tent, tipi, yurt, etc! BE SMART, BE EDUCATED, BE HEALTHY

  • keia peterson jaggy

    you are also correct, please remember ‘ENERGY FLOWS WHERE ATTENTION GOES’ acknowledge and rise above! peace!

  • LesBaer1911

    I have ‘Dr. Mary’s Monkey’. Thanks. I truly believe my little brother, who had a
    tumor in his stomach, died from the polio vaccine at age 12 in 1967. Soft tissue.
    Its all in the ‘batch’. Each vial has a batch number. Some batches are contaminated,
    some are not. Here is a good resource: http://www.whale.to/a/mcbean.html

  • keia peterson jaggy

    yes i believe my brother too got this kind of soft tissue cancer. lifestyle seems to play a very important role, i believe.

  • Notice how Dr.D manipulates the others into agreement. And note that there is a goal to reduce the population of the US by 80% in only a few more years… And yes, thank goodness for “Dr.Mary’s Monkey” – so we understand more about how this all works. Article about the ‘prediction’ of population depletion…
    http://thoughtcrimeradio.net/2014/10/globalist-military-industry-group-projects-80-us-population-reduction-by-2025/

  • AutismDad

    80%? Why would that be a goal? I could see reduction in some ways, but across the board 80% is beyond belief.

  • ode2B17

    Why don’t they develop a vaccine against stupidity; ignorance; and greed? Because that would “cure” them… and they do not want a cure because they would lose money.

  • Sicklesteel

    Jesus H. Christ!….who in the hell is running that circus!….FDA….Federal Dumb Asses…..and these are the folks who are looking out for us!….sure they are…you betcha!

    Pissed off a Dr. a while back when I started questioning him about the contents of a Flu Vaccination he was very insistent I take. After at least 5 minutes of a pure BS answer – I obviously knew more about the vaccine than he did – I told him “you’re completely ignorant about what’s in those aren’t you?” ….red face…..anger…..almost thought he was gong to put his hands on me. Asked him if he had done any reading on the subject. More anger and a statement to the effect “I am the Doctor here not you!”
    “Ok Doc. We are done here”.
    I stood up started putting my shirt on and casually asked him if he knew the difference between “ignorance” and ‘stupidity”. More anger when I went on without waiting for his answer. Told him “Ignorance is a simply a lack of knowledge where as Stupidly is insisting on remaining Ignorant and Doc, you are obviously a stupid man….”

    As I picked up my coat heading to the door I told him we were through doing business and I am looking for a new Dr. today. Thought he was going to call security before I got out of there he was so angry at being call out by a mere mortal.

    I have no trust in any government agencies these days.

  • Sicklesteel

    … a side note to one and all. I believe one day in the not to distant future, we the people will be told vaccinations are “mandatory” because of the new monkey virus that came about because monkeys were associating with pigs and this new super strain has mutated and we are all gong to die!….line up ….line up….take your shots for the sake of the planet and the world. Then, after a period of time, those that took the witches brew so to speak start dying from the very thing they were getting vaccinated for!….such BS.

  • txingabobos

    It’s a shame that have not yet discovered a vaccine for stupidity.

  • Beats me, but I think they want to cull the population to 500 million… see “Georgia Guidestones”. This idea is cherished by eugenicists -“the elite’ – who want a world in which they rule – and cruelly. The good news is, I understand that their plans for the world will not come to fruition, tho they certainly have messed things up royally already. They are insane, AD. Totally insane. They are drunk with the power that their wealth gives them. They are bored, so they live very different, demonic lives than the rest of us. And to ‘amuse’ themselves and one another, they figure out ways to make us uncomfortable. On the other hand, we can hardly imagine how they think.

  • xileen worcester

    People who would like to know more about vaccines, how they are made and what problems they cause may like to read these books:

    Deadly Feasts: The “Prion” Controversy and the Public’s Health by Richard Rhodes to find out more about vaccines and Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy causing Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease.

    The Virus and the Vaccine: The True Story of a Cancer-Causing Monkey Virus, Contaminated Polio Vaccine, and the Millions of Americans Exposed by Debbie Bookchin and Jim Schumacher concerning the SV40 cancer causing virus injected into millions of children in the 1950’s and 1960’s.

    Dr. Mary’s Monkey: How the Unsolved Murder of a Doctor, a Secret Laboratory in New Orleans and Cancer-Causing Monkey Viruses Are Linked to Lee Harvey Oswald… Assassination and Emerging Global Epidemics by Edward T Haslam about a secret government lab in New Orleans set up to find a cure from the suspected cases of cancer that the government feared would result from the polio vaccine and also how to turn the monkey virus into a bio weapon.

    The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks by Rebecca Skloot whose cancer cells became the origins of the HeLa cell.

  • technicallysane

    I take my hat off to you Sicklesteel. You took it a few steps further than most Americans would have the courage to do.
    My story is similar to yours, but the outcome was different.
    I remember as a new patient confronting my doctor some time back when he tried to push a Tetanus shot, a pneumonia shot and a flu shot on me. With each of his urging that I should take them, I kept saying ‘no thank you’. But it was when he got to the encephalitis vaccination that I’d had enough and shot back at him asking him if he even knew what was in those shots. I asked him if he’d read the package labels to see what the ingredients were. He hesitated and gave me a blank expression but then replied that I should consider all the children’s lives that had been saved from the encephalitis vaccinations alone, so I shot back again telling him that the data fails to show how many children have lost their lives as a result of those vaccines.
    I then told him if he’d prefer not to have me as a patient, that was really okay as I didn’t want to put him on the spot,,,,I added that I do not take vaccinations, I do not take Xrays or get mammograms and would only take medications for emergency situations…..not as lifelong disease management.
    I thought he’d run me out of his office on that note but instead he said as long as I wasn’t anti everything he’d try to work with me because he understood some people prefer to go the natural route. After seeing I was adamant, he mellowed and I’ve had a good doctor/patient relationship with him since.

  • Lou

    “If you want to make a vaccine for a cancer you have to use cancer cells”

    It is truly amazing how far from reality you get when you ignore the blatant truth.

    “Just by decreasing a cell’s oxygen content by about one-third, cancer is automatically induced. Nothing more is required for cancer to develop.”
    Doctor Otto Warburg 1924

    NOTHING but OXYGEN and a little common sense can obviate almost all cancer. Instead we have almost 100 years of Rockefeller led cancer obfuscation and hundreds of millions of extremely painful and COSTLY cancer deaths.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_cancer_intro.htm

  • Sicklesteel

    Dear technicallysan….. I am a surviving old logger. We don’t get white haired because we are stupid, and all of us know this sure as hell isn’t our first Rodeo. It never ceases to amaze me the amount of pure BS people will believe coming from the government. What is it with that? Have people all lost the ability to think for themselves, to make their own observations….and to believe what they see?.
    I have a tendency to be standoffish to arrogant assholes especially Doctors. There are lots of them….Doctors, Attorneys, Police Officers….etc…etc…lots of experience talking to you there.

    I am gong on my second year of Medicare and I bought the deluxe package on December 7th and intend to use hell out of it starting in January of next year.
    They tell me I have to have a primary care Doctor. Suppose that is to increase the revenue. But I am a bit concerned. I haven’t been to a Dr. since 1984 …other than Emergency Room visits that come to those of us who believe in the life philosophy of “live fast, die young and leave a good looking corpse”.

    Hope he believes me when I tell him how I got here which is avoiding Doctors and Hospitals. It should be interesting….

  • Argus

    Wow, AD. I think we have found someone that believes things that are even loonier than what you do.

  • Argus

    The wackaloons are out in force with comments on this article. Way to stir things up with a load of scary-sounding claptrap.
    But that’s good for business. More traffic = more revenue for Jeffie.

  • technicallysane

    Yes I wonder how long it’s going to take doctors to wake up and realize that a lot of Americans are tuned in to what’s going on and we’re not going to swallow their BS.
    The tragedy is that most doctors are totally clueless about what goes into those vaccines…..and perhaps don’t want to know. It’s called hiding one’s head in the sand.

  • AutismDad

    Be sure you’re first in line

  • AutismDad

    Don’t expect any pro-vac Neanderthals to read them. How would they get them up in the cavity their heads are lodged in, and lack of light being another issue.

  • AutismDad

    cool. You exposed the fraud.

  • AutismDad

    Like anyone else you have to draw the line. He seems to have respect for that.

  • AutismDad

    Its a racket, a lucrative racket

  • AutismDad

    You should do something about your low self esteem Argus

  • technicallysane

    Yes he does and he is actually a very nice person.

  • nmcard

    vaccines are for stupidity…..

  • nmcard

    It’s a fact that vaccines are propagating cancer. Investigate “hela cell line contamination”, SV40, and check out my blog: vaccinecancerconnection.wordpress.com for more research.

  • nmcard

    The very birth of virology and vaccines were created on “hela cells” from Henrietta Lacks cancer tumor cells! And since then these cloned contaminated cell lines have been used in vaccines, vaccine research and cancer research. My blog shows supporting evidence of such: vaccinecancerconnection.wordpress.com
    VACCINES ARE CAUSING CANCER GLOBALLY. The vaccine industry and cancer industry are one in the same.

  • nmcard

    – it planted the cancer virus in thousands of humans which is why we are seeing such a huge epidemic of cancer in this modern technological world when the disease should be decreasing, not increasing. We are being given cancer through vaccinations since the 50’s.

  • nmcard

    AND SV40 was only ONE of the viruses…. there were and are many many more.

  • nmcard

    I like your point… because sometimes i can get so enraged at this obvious genocide taking place…. BUT then i remind myself not to feed the beast. Power comes from the unification of thought…. and love will prevail.

  • nmcard

    yes the very birth of virology and vaccines was built on hela cells… the first “immortal “cloned cancer cell…. this is where all shit broke loose!! these cells have gotten out of control and are helping propagate cancer worldwide.

  • nmcard

    hela cells were derived from a tumor…..

  • Sicklesteel

    ….and not wanting to endanger profit enhancing work relationships with big Pharma.

    Just about every Dr. I have ever known, and I have known more than a few, are defacto Drug Sales Reps and I have pissed off more than a couple of those arrogant asses over drinks telling them that to their faces.

    Love to watch them bluster and then ask them point blank…..”You do get cash from the Pharmaceutical companies whose product you write prescriptions for. Right?” There is only one answer, and if that is no they are lying their asses off and I have told them that too. They bluster even more and then try to attack you on a different topic or tell you that is common business practice and they don’t solicit them…..blah ….blah.

    “But you do get paid by them….right?” ….more blustering, some times with anger, then overestimating who the are while they are puffing up to scare you. Then I always ask them “Why I should believe the reason you give me for taking a drug you get paid for every time you write a prescription for it? That one usually twists their noodles more than they can handle and their posse always seems to step up and quietly tells you his is going to take you out back and kick your ass if you keep it up.

    I have actually been told that by one of those “protective old line backer college football buddys” of the drug salesman….errrrr…..Doctor who were there at the function with them. Then, actually started out the door behind me and I heard his wife telling him “No!…don’t do that!…No!”.

    Watched him push her back out of the corner of my eye going out the door of the establishment and rapidly picked up step getting to the back side of the parking lot where I always park my nice car. I was far enough ahead of him, was able to get the car door open and turned to him as he was coming up rapidly trash talking as he came…..”You were asking for this!” and other descriptive expletives deleted. At that point I assumed the proper stance there with the car door shielding the right half of my body, then threw up my left hand ….”Stop right there!’ very loud and in a snarling type way. I made the point immediately because I obvious had something in my right hand behind the door, and my bluff won as he quickly turned and walked away.

    Smart man …..it wasn’t a bluff.

    I don’t go there anymore. That’s Ok too. Not my kind of people. Elites. We all know them and their concern for taking care of all of us “ignorant sheeple” because we are so stupid and all.

  • technicallysane

    Yes, there’s more goes on that the people never hear about. I guess if we were all privy to even half of it, it would send us all into shock.

  • Sicklesteel

    …well, not all of us.

    I have dealt with those type all my life doing what I did for a living back in the day. They never ceased to amaze me when they just assumed because I was in their work environments getting paid as much if not more than they were working as a Consultant, that I came from the same background and social economic structures they were from.

    It was always worth the grins at the watering holes after work when they all started talking about their Ivy league schools and when the inevitable question came of “by the way, where did you go to school?”….LOL!

    When I told them the name of the little no name State College I went to the looks on their faces were priceless because they assumed I went to an Ivy League school just as they did.
    Takes all kinds I guess is about all you can say about that.

  • technicallysane

    That’s true….very often those who are most educated are nothing but educated fools.

  • The medical for profit arena simply has no real understanding of even basic human physiology. And the for profit cover-up of it all, is massive.

    Simian virus 40 in humans

    Fernanda Martini1, Alfredo Corallini2, Veronica Balatti1, Silvia Sabbioni2, Cecilia Pancaldi1 and Mauro Tognon1*

    Corresponding author: Mauro Tognon

    Author Affiliations

    1 Department of Morphology and Embryology, Section of Cell Biology and Molecular Genetics, School of Medicine, and Center of Biotechnology, University of Ferrara, Via Fossato di Mortara, 64/B. 44100 Ferrara, Italy

    2 Department of Experimental and Diagnostic Medicine, Section of Microbiology, University of Ferrara, Via Luigi Borsari, 46. 44100 Ferrara, Italy

    Excerpted:

    A source of human exposure to SV40 occurred between 1955 and 1963, when inactivated and live anti-polio vaccines, prepared from polioviruses grown in naturally SV40-infected simian cell cultures, were administered to hundreds of millions of people in the United States, Canada, Europe, Asia and Africa [63]. Soon it was shown that children vaccinated with contaminated oral polio vaccines (OPV) shed infectious SV40 in stools for at least 5 weeks after vaccination [64]. However, some children, who received the same OPV, did not develop neutralizing antibodies even though they may have received large doses of live SV40, compared with the potentially inactivated SV40 in inactivated polio vaccine (IPV). Further, SV40 human contamination occurred in experimental infection with live respiratory syncytial virus to adult volunteers and a neutralizing antibody response in about two thirds of the volunteers was shown [65]. Inactivated vaccines against adenoviruses [66] and hepatitis A [67] virus also exposed humans to SV40, although the amount of infectious SV40 was almost certainly lower then that administered with OPV or live respiratory syncytial virus.

    Additional serologic studies reported a SV40 seropositivity in individuals with no history of immunization with contaminated IPV or other possible route of SV40 infection [69-72]. Shah et al., [72]

    These studies suggest that humans may become infected by SV40 independently from poliovirus vaccine exposure. However, most of these early serologic studies were carried out before the discovery of the two human polyomaviruses, BK and JC, which are close related to SV40 and are ubiquitous in human populations. It is possible that the early serologic evidence of SV40 antibody detection in human sera represents some degree of cross reactivity with antibodies against the highly related BK and JC viruses [73-75].

    To date, the prevalence of SV40 infections in humans is not known. Recent studies, based on PCR and serological techniques, indicate that SV40 infection occurs both in children and adults. (i) SV40 DNA sequences have been detected in normal and neoplastic tissues of people either too young (1 to 30 years) or too old (60 to 85 years) to have been vaccinated with SV40-contaminated anti-polio vaccines [19,33,76-81]. This finding may also explain the lack of difference in cancer incidence between individuals vaccinated with SV40-contaminated and SV40-free anti-polio vaccines [82]. (ii) SV40 sequences and Tag were detected in blood and sperm specimens from normal individuals and oncologic patients [80,81,83-88] and in lymphoblastoid cells [32]. These results suggest that (peripheral blood mononuclear cells) PBMCs, could be a reservoir and vehicle of SV40 spreading in the tissues of the host and among the individuals. (iii) SV40 sequences were found in urine and stoole samples, from children and adults [84,89,90], indicating that the haematic, sexual and orofecal routes of transmission are likely to be responsible for SV40 horizontal infection in humans.

    http://www.infectagentscancer.com/content/2/1/13

    http://www.vacfacts.info/scientific-proof-that-the-known-cancer-causing-sv40-virus-a-previous-contaminant-in-the-polio-vaccine-is-obviously-either-contagious-or-the-virus-is-still-in-the-vaccines.html

  • Sicklesteel

    …and most all of them….but not all being fair about it…..are completely arrogant about their pedigree and breeding credentials….sitting here gritting my teeth with the memories of the worst of those jerks I worked with in year past….

  • Irina Godunko

    Bravo!!!

  • technicallysane

    Those types of people are.. in my opinion… without any refinement, yet they act as if they are so much better than everyone else. Truth be told, they have the morals of an alley cat and would sell their mother’s soul to the devil if it served their purpose.
    Well at least you can heave a sigh of relief knowing you no longer have to endure their association any longer.

  • Mariel Thomson

    I had a vet tell me that if he vaccinates a cat or dog he does it in a different area each time because cancers develop when a shot is given near a previous one.

  • By Any

    “Millions of consumers will be injected with vaccines which may cause cancer tumors, then cancer tumors will be used to make millions of vaccines. Think about it.”

    Our entire Western civilization… well, the UK-US Empire in particular, is one big tumor at this point.

    I hope at least some of humanity survives this nihilistic, suicidal madness.

    I got my tetanus shot a year or so ago so that I wouldn’t have to get another one until at least the mid 2020’s, specifically because I knew insanity like this was coming along. It looks like I won’t be getting any more vaccines ever again, unless I travel to Russia or China and get them there (or wherever the UK-US Empire doesn’t have control).

    The best part is that these doctors really believe they’ll get away with all of this. I guess they’ve been promised that by the time 90% of the US population is dead, there will be a world government in place with total control and so they will be immune from accountability at that point. Figure on America being a scorched wasteland by the late 2020’s, populated only by a few cyborgs and robots.

  • By Any

    Better find a doctor that can be bribed to write down that you took the vaccine.

  • Sicklesteel

    My man, if I am still in this country when a shot card is as mandatory to have on you as your driver’s license is, then I sure as hell won’t be anywhere near any place where I have to have that on me. I don’t intend to comply…..come and get me.

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  • Lea

    “The chief, if not the sole cause of the monstrous increase in cancer has been
    vaccination.”

    -Dr. Robert Bell, former V.P. International Society for Cancer Research
    at the British Cancer Hospital

  • Helen Ostrovergova

    It seems the chances to refuse vaccination diminished every day.
    California senators are bought by Merck and they are pushing for
    mandatory vaccination bill. Many other states got the same issue after
    media hysteria about several measles cases in California. The new
    California bill would make unnecessary for doctors to explain any
    dangers and side effects of vaccines. http://www.sb277.org

  • REVELLINGINTRUTH

    I am ashamed that i am in the industry..as a nurse and can tell you (after doing work comp) for 10 years…that they all LIE!! It is al about money now!! 85% of MD’s will make recommendations that cause you more problems in the long run!!! Take a piece of bone out…$45,000 to the bill. Or how about a “surgery quota” that has to be met every month by the MD’s??? Weve been HAD!!! BE very careful, they all LIE!!!