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How Congress Allowed Vaccine Manufacturers to Dismantle the Constitution (in One Thousand Words or Less)

Oh, Congress, you’ve made such a mess of things. When you were elected as a Representative, you must have been confused. To clarify, you represent the people of the United States, not corporations.

There is a little document called The Constitution of the United States of America. In that document, (which it appears many of you have not read) is what’s called The Bill of Rights. The Bill of Rights outlines the rights of American citizens. To betray those rights is treason. Go ahead and read it, you can find it online.

You, our Representatives, are sworn to protect The Constitution. The following are examples of our constitutional rights being violated by, well, you. You are free to correct these violations at any time.

Article I of The Bill of Rights states:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

Gee, Congress, it appears that vaccine injury violates all of our rights in Article I. Here’s how: Many live virus vaccines contain aborted fetal cells or pig DNA; Christians, Muslims and Jews may want to know this before vaccinating. [1, 2] Mandating live virus vaccines violates our right to freely exercise our religion. Oops!

Secondly, Congress, you weren’t supposed to make laws to abridge free speech and free press. I assume it was y’all who allowed corporate funding of news media. Dang. That explains why we never hear about vaccine injury on the news, which is primarily funded by pharmaceutical ads. Notice the constant drug ads and awkward Viagra commercials? Yeah. That was probably illegal.

Then we have those pesky rights about assembling and petitioning the government for a redress of grievances. Well, my son, who has vaccine-induced autism according to his pediatrician, can’t leave the house without me and can’t write more than a few paragraphs, so he won’t be assembling or petitioning the government.

While we’re on the subject, I suppose the 83 federally recognized children who have vaccine-induced autism won’t be assembling or petitioning you either. Wow! [3]

And … in case you didn’t know, a Senior Scientist from the CDC, William Thompson, said, in that study, he:

“omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data were collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed.”

So … it looks like vaccines are triggering autism and therefore denying millions of Americans their rights. [4]

I know this is all new to you, Congress, so I’ll be brief. It’s a lot to take in. Article V states that no person will be deprived “life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness without due process of law.” Oh, no! You guys passed a law in 1986 shielding vaccine manufacturers from liability. [5]

That means that all of the children who died or were permanently disabled due to unsafe vaccines were denied life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I’m not a legal scholar but I don’t think you were supposed to do that.

Additionally, there is Article VII (still talking about the Bill of Rights), which states:

“In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.”

Oh, umm … in case you weren’t aware, Congress, the 1986 ruling which protects vaccine manufacturers from financial liability is unconstitutional.

You see, my dear Representatives, your only job is to uphold The Constitution of The United States of America. It is just a piece of paper and if you don’t adhere to it, America falls apart and corporations take over. It’s all very Machiavellian.

Feel free to repeal these unconstitutional laws at any time because, if you don’t, that’s called treason (hint: treason is defined in the thing I told you about called The Constitution). Your job, one more time, is to uphold The Constitution of the United States of America.

You can choose to represent us or corporations, but based on passed precedent, a bet against the American people is never a safe bet. Best of luck in all your endeavors. If you need a copy of The Constitution, let me know; I’ll get you one in a jiff!

References:

  1. http://www.livingwhole.org…aborted-baby-parts-in-your-vaccines/
  2. http://www.nvic.org…Pig-Virus-DNA-Found-in-Rota.aspx
  3. http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/83-cases-of-autism…
  4. http://morganverkamp.com/statement-of-william-w-thompson-ph-d…
  5. https://www.billofrightsinstitute.org/founding-documents/bill-of-rights/

 

Photo Credit

 

Sarah Carrasco
 

Sarah Carrasco is the mother of a fifteen year old boy with autism. She is a parent mentor and Coordinator for Talk about Curing Autism (TACA), an vocational advocate for people with developmental disabilities and is currently writing a handbook on autism. She has sat on expert panels pertaining to IEPs, resources and respite care provider training. She lives in Colorado with her three sons, David, Aidan and Brooks. David, who has regressive autism, is steadily making gains and is on the road to recovery.

  • Richard Sacks

    Good article but the problem is not misunderstanding on the part of Congress. Most of what the federal government now does is blatantly illegal. The enumerated powers clause of the Constitution lists what areas the federal government is allowed to deal with. The 10th Amendment clarifies that they can’t do anything else. They have become the outer facade of a huge global criminal gang, well paid for their treason and blackmailed to keep silent on the truth. They are subject to death if they defy the controllers. Most federal agencies and departments are specifically barred from existing. They figure the public will not be able to figure out anything to do to change this. Their goal of the top level bosses in this cartel is total destruction of the biosphere, including us. So far they are right that we cannot figure out how to stop them. They are systematically destroying what is left of the economy, and hitting us with many simultaneous attacks on our health and ability to think. Vaccination is one of these, there are many others equally deadly.

    In keeping with this program, it is unacceptable to spread real health information. More than 40 holistic doctors who dared do even a little of this have been murdered. Bradstreet dared to show that vaccines have weaponized ingredients like the enzyme nagalase, harvested from cancer tumors and refined for use in vaccines to destroy immune systems. He also dared to show that in a group of 1100 vaccine injured incurable autistic kids, 60% of them were cured with relatively minor natural means, including GCMAF and ultrasound. They probably could have cured most of the rest if he had understood how to use fasting, live food and a few important adjuncts. But what he did was enough to die for.

    Making this sound less serious than it is does not help us. The rulers of the system are rushing to shut us down the rest of the way, so that we will no longer pose any threat of dissent, will not be able to think clearly (500+ new vaccines in the pipeline, which they hope can be made mandatory will finish off your brain) and will all be very sick and addicted to toxic medical drugs. The truth is that the body is designed to stay in great shape until the end of life. All of this degeneration is abnormal and unnecessary. Natural immunity is spectacular if you know how to maintain it, and it doesn’t need toxic chemicals by mouth or injection, at all, and never has.

    Though defending yourself and others may be required depending on how things go (that is the reason the people’s firearms rights were given such high priority by the founders, who realized the biggest threat would be government itself if it strayed from its Constitutional protection role), fighting is not the way this thing will be solved. There is a far greater power than any physical weapon, even the advanced ones our rulers hope and plan to use on us. There is a limited amount of time left in this lifetime to find it, but it is still within your reach, if your desire to know is strong enough.

    Learn the real hidden laws of nature, which the rulers will kill us for exposing, and use them. Once the physical body issues are out of the way, the real work becomes easier. That is where the power to neutralize this agenda of total destruction, still lies hidden. You have unimaginable brilliance in you. Find it. I don’t see any other route for us that will suffice, at this point. Fighting these attacks one at a time is valiant but too slow, against a group with unlimited resources and malice. The rulers are bringing economic collapse, race war, and more. Once we are all fighting with each other, they figure the game is over and they will delete the rest of us. At the top level, they believe they will merge with computers and become immortal, so the destroyed planet won’t matter. They are serious. We are dealing with this from only partial understanding. We need to use our time better. Now would be a good time to start.

    Richard Sacks, Host
    Lost Arts Radio
    http://www.lostartsradio.com
    Independent holistic health scientist since 1965
    Essene teacher and private health consultant
    [email protected]

  • Julie Berry Clark

    Great comment Richard!
    Btw, what is an Essene teacher?

  • Mark Hall

    Sarah,

    Brilliant commentary! Your article should be sent to each U.S. Representative and Senator in Congress. We know our rights, and we will FIGHT FOR THEM. As Del Bigtree, producer of “VAXXED”, has said: “Be Brave. Stand up. Speak out.”
    Mark Hall, Colorado Coalition for Vaccine Choice http://www.ccfvc.org

  • KarenHudes

    The US Constitution of 1789 is not in force. The US has been under martial law since 1861 https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/KAHudes1861.jpg The Network of Global Corporate Control identified by Vitali, Glattfelder, and Battiston of ETH Zurich http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1107/1107.5728v2.pdf put a second, secret Constitution into place in 1871 when the Revolutionary War debts fell due:
    http://3rddog.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/0/7/11073361/us-constitutionstudy%5B1%5D.pdf The federal judges are not sitting in the courts guaranteed under Article III of the Constitution:
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter12.14.15.pdf

    US Congress extends a state of emergency behind closed doors to keep this corruption in place, and each member of Congress is has acknowledged they are ignoring their duty under the Constitution of 1789 to convene a Convention under Article V.
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter7.13.16.1.pdf

    Justice Scalia was murdered three days after I called him out for this corruption. During this interregnum until the Constitution of 1789 is put back into effect, I represent the US on the Board of Governors of the World Bank and IMF, which administer the US’ monetary gold reserves in the Global Debt Facility.

  • KarenHudes

    For some reason, the link in the above comment to the second, secret Constitution is not working. Here it is again, together with some articles and a study group in North Carolina:
    http://3rddog.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/0/7/11073361/us-constitutionstudy%5B1%5D.pdf
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Two_Constitutions_in_US.pdf
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/two+constitutions+links.pdf
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/two+constitutions.pdf

  • Richard Sacks

    Julie, it’s just a teacher of the laws or design principles of nature, that can be used to heal, on an individual or planetary level. It has been shared and taught since humanity began. I came here intending to help with that, very confident I could make some contribution that would be very valuable. But when you actually get here it’s different. I am supposed to be seeing the way to convey something that doesn’t fit easily into words, and be able to share it now in a way that actually accomplishes the goal instead of just talking and blowing away more time.
    Trying to do this on the intellectual plane by talking just gets people arguing, everyone wanting to prove they are right, wasting time, making more of a mess. Maybe I’m just supposed to help select individuals while the rest of this place melts down. But that doesn’t appeal to me as much because I don’t like all the incredible suffering going on all over the planet, so I’m looking for ways to help avert what our leaders are bringing to us as fast as they can (i.e. total destruction). I’m looking for some practical way to tie into the energy of the whole drama on a deeper level, not the superficial approach of arguing about all these “issues,” confusion about which comes from a deeper lack of consciousness.
    An Essene teacher in the way I mean it, wants to help bring that consciousness back, so the rest of the healing can follow, individually and for the bigger picture. It’s all based on a level of Love that has been forgotten. There is unlimited power there, and those of negative intent are barred from access. I think it is the way through for us.
    The laws of nature I referred to can be used to heal diseases, even the so-called “incurable” ones, but they can also be used to heal societies and planets. Each of us has a role to play that is only limited by what we think is impossible on a subconscious level (not what we think we believe). The realities of all this are far beyond systems of beliefs, and have existed since this place was first started and before. As subconscious becomes conscious, everything changes.
    Richard

  • Billy Briggs

    So it’s pretty much mumbo jumbo.

  • Wow, what a load of crap.

  • By “second, secret constitution,” do you mean the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871? That’s the one I see referred to most often by other pseudolaw enthusiasts who don’t understand anything about how law or government works.

  • Richard Sacks

    Yes, Ken and Billy thanks for putting it so eloquently and so succinctly. A load of crap and mumbo jumbo, that’s the hidden reason I spent the time to answer. Brilliant, thanks. I will try to leave future comments to both of you instead of wasting your time.

  • freedom1mac

    Richard Sacks is right on so I think you are the one with the load of crap!

  • No, I’m doing a free spirit evaluation, and I’m getting a very strong aura reading from him — it’s brown and smells like manure. Fortunately, I have several treatments that should repair it over time. I definitely recommend the deluxe package, though — my clients get much better outcomes.

  • Trust me, I barely had to read any of that to see that it was a tedious litany of conspiracy theories and quackery. Don’t worry about wasting my time.

  • KarenHudes
  • That’s a dead link, but the other links from before cite the DC Organic Act of 1871.

  • Arrogant and abusive Kenny here is nothing more than a wack job himself, with a previous and major head injury. The only thing that smells like manure are his own twisted rants, and antagonizing reply posts.

  • You should probably start out with my Intensive Detoxification Integrative Oral Treatment. For only $8,500, I can give you a two week supply of tap water, sugar pills, and chemicals that a special interest group paid shills uh, honest and disinterested researchers to manufacture find phony persuasive data to support. If my IDIOT treatment doesn’t produce positive results as I absolutely promise it will within two weeks, then I am a liar clearly you haven’t committed to your recovery and need to buy another two weeks’ supply at the discounted price of $$7,500.

  • See, I told you so. Thanks for helping making my point.

  • It’s really easy to keep up with Disqus throughout the day when you use a smartphone to keep an eye on notifications and reply. :-)

  • Like anyone actually cares what you use. Obviously you did not get much of anything else done.

  • Ron Roy

    A smartphone paid for by the MEDICAL MAFIA.

  • Homunculous

    They dismantled the Constitution in 1913, when they passed the Federal Reserve Act. Put your priorities straight.

  • Lol, prove it, liar!

  • Sonja Henie

    He’s recovering from an injury, Lowell.

  • It’s a bit of a “Rear Window” situation now that I think about it!

  • KarenHudes

    No there is a distinct second, secret Constitution, but Disqus is breaking the link. Go to some of the other files and you will find the correct link there.

  • Every source you’ve provided directly cites the DC Organic Act of 1871 as the distinct second, secret constitution. They also go in for laughable pseudolegal garbage like gold fringe or capitalization affecting jurisdiction, or bizarre, unsupported conspiracy theories.

  • KarenHudes

    That is false. This is a stand-alone document, whose link has been interfered with five times. http://3rddog.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/0/7/11073361/us-constitutionstudy%5B1%5D.pdf and does not cite the DC Organic Act of 1871. Drop the CIA-invented terminology of “conspiracy theory” and try and type in the url to see directly for yourself. Assuming that what you are seeking to do is to find out what is true. Perhaps that is the wrong assumption.

  • The working links that you have provided cite the DC Organic Act of 1871. This is a fact. If this weebly link won’t work, maybe you can post the URL another way (URL shortener?) or share some of the contents so that I can search for it myself. If you are not talking about the DC Organic Act of 1871, then you are providing sources that contradict your claims.

  • KarenHudes

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter7.10.16.1.pdf middle of the page has a working link to the second, secret Constitution, which is distinct from the DC Organic Act of 1871.

  • Billy Briggs

    You were attacked by DARPA scalar military technology? And you survived?

  • This is not a separate constitution. A separate constitution adopted in 1871 would not be signed by long-dead men from only 12 of the 37 states. This is the constitution of 1789 with alterations. When were these alterations added by the amendment process laid out in Article V? Constitutional amendments are, as a rule, well-documented. Were they proposed by the Congress or by the states? Were they ratified by the legislatures or by conventions?

  • How would you know? Are you buddies? His head injury was pretty severe, judging by the pictures he posted. In fact if his story is true, at all. I do not think he has both boat oars in the water; in fact I know that he clearly doesn’t.

  • Some things are more than obvious in life, you just refuse to face it.

  • I refuse to face the facts that I paid for my own phone and that both you and Ron Roy are liars?

  • And all coming from a person (you) who thinks its just fine and ok to inject for profit just born babies with a worthless aluminum adjuvant Hepatitis B vaccine, and as well as young as a 9 year old girl or boy, with a worthless, toxic, known contaminated, dangerous, and at times deadly Gardasil vaccine; it doesn’t seem to me that you would even know as much as the difference between a front window, and verses a rear window. You support corrupt big pharma, and you support it all, refusing to question anything. You are nothing but an obviously beyond stubborn, and mislead sheeple. You refuse to have and to even get a clue as to anything, and as well as to being educated to any form of actual truth and reality, whatsoever.

  • Rear Window is a 1954 film about an injured, wheelchair-bound photographer who spends his abundant leisure time looking out the rear window of his apartment because he is unable to spend his time working or roaming. It starred Jimmy Stewart and remains a very influential film.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047396/

  • I said nothing about where your phone came from, and I could care less. I am speaking in general terms, as to seeing and realizing what you obviously are, and what you clearly represent.

  • Says the guy who thinks flipping a picture horizontally is sophisticated “trick photography.”

  • Again, I was speaking in general terms. So you compare your life to a movie, who cares. We all know and can see that you have to much time on your hands to do the devils work and bidding, and by whatever means that came to be.

  • You crazed and obviously beyond twisted man, you already admitted to what actually happened. Your childish and stupid claims are as well, entirely pointless.

  • Yes, and you completely rejected my admission of what actually happened. It was too simple, so you had to construct a conspiracy around it.

    https://conspiracypsychology.com/2013/01/17/alex-jones-and-the-monological-belief-system/

  • You might as well title that article, how to promote more denial. Or how about titling it, how to not face reality and in promoting the conclusion that gov’t is your best ally and friend, and in that the gov’t always has the public’s best interest at the forefront of its most patriotic intentions. How about making a book out of it, titled; “The Sheeples Guide To Trusting Your Government”.

  • If you think there are any real facts and truth in articles like that, and obviously you are promoting that to be the case, you are beyond ignorant as to the actual facts, and the reality of such issues. All you are doing is promoting further a full expose on how dumb you really are.

  • Same thing. As I said, all you are doing is promoting further a full expose on your own ignorance, and as to how dumb you really are.

  • And you’re illustrating the depth of an intellectual black hole. There is literally nothing that can be said to you that you will not spin into a theory that supports what you already believe. There is literally nothing that you can read that you don’t perceive as either honest proof of your beliefs, or vile lies trying to undermine them. There is literally nothing that you can see that will ever make you entertain the thought that your understanding of something isn’t already perfect and complete.

    You are going to die as frantically paranoid as you are now, relying entirely on an immense, unimaginably complicated web of sinister, imaginary schemes to make sense of the world. In a very real and tragic way, you are already dead.

  • No I did not, you twisted man. You admitted what happened, and that is and was the end of story. Why did you not admit to it sooner, and when you obviously knew?

  • Yes, I admitted what happened, and you have utterly refused to believe it. You instead came up with schemes about trick photography and lookalikes with mirrored scars. Did you ever decide how many of me there are?

    Seriously, Lowell. You just, JUST said that I “admitted what happened.” If I ask you to tell me what you think I admitted, you won’t tell me. If I ask you whether you think I was admitting it truthfully, you won’t answer. You have gone from accusing me of showing you pictures of separate people and/or conspiring to fool you with trick photography to saying that “I admitted what happened” and that that “is and was the end of the story.”

    I “admitted” that I took three pictures of myself and showed them to you. All three pictures are of the same person, me. The scar is real and was, is, and will continue to be one only one side of my face. No lookalikes, doubles, or trick photography were involved. This is what I have maintained from the beginning, that is what I still maintain, and you don’t believe any of it. Now you say I “admitted what happened” and you seem to be suggesting that I admitted to some kind of trickery. I did not, and if I asked you to show me where I did, you would refuse to show me.

  • I flagged that as inappropriate. I base my beliefs on thorough and extensive research, only. Research that as well at times and in some cases, has been done over many years in time, looking again at the same issues. Thanks for the psychological evaluation, but it does not provide any information at all on anything but to again expose your own obvious in denial insanity. You really need, to wake up.

  • “Wake up, sheeple” isn’t an argument backed up by thorough and extensive research, Lowell. It is a knee-jerk slogan. You showed me your best research and I explained to you why it was shill garbage.

  • Wow, are you ever beyond twisted and sick.

    You were told that the one picture did not appear to be the same person as the other picture, and it doesn’t, as that person appears to be much younger than the other picture. I as well questioned why in picture it showed the scar traveling in a semi circle to the right side of the head, and in the other picture the scar traveling to the left side of the head. Eventually, and after a long and twisted reply posting whoopty doo from you and that you created, you admitted, or stated that your phone camera had somehow reversed the image.

    That certainly does not amount to some alleged conspiracy theory, on my part. I could care less about it; and I could care less about your disgusting pictures.

  • Oh, but it is backed up by thorough and extensive research. In your chosen state of ignorance, you again and again simply refuse to face it.

    You as well lied and denied anything and everything for reality, and in squirming your way through the first study. Then you refused to move on to address anything at all in the second and third study. Not very impressive. If you people are actually the claimed to purveyors of the science, and as you claim to be; then perhaps you better stop ignoring and rejecting the real independent, and unbiased study science. The truth is that you are nothing but a running away from it, and pathetic coward.

  • So how many of me do you believe there are?

  • Only one, of course. And your point, is?

  • Do you think that all of the pictures are of me, or do you think that I’ve managed to find somebody with a scar exactly like mine?

  • As I said, what part of I do not care, do you not understand? You can take your obvious twisted sickness, and your sick pictures, and fall off the end of the earth, and for all I care. What part of that do you not understand? All that is going on here on your part is further attempted antagonizing, and false harassment.

    Your personal pictures have nothing to do with the vaccine issues in this article, and if you want to continue with that, then I suggest that the editor of vactruth should ban you from posting anything further..

  • Your inability to answer is a great glimpse into the mind of an anti-vaxxer.

  • False harassment and the continual antagonizing of another reply poster is something that should not be allowed here.

    Lets see how long it takes for you to be banned, and as as you should be.

  • joe

    Actually you don’t,plenty of links were provided to you on other forums,you know Lowell pride is a curse,you know you are wrong but refuse to admit it,common sense does not work with you,I think the only thing that MIGHT work and I stress MIGHT,is if you copped a full blast of something that you have not been vaccinated against,lets say a good dose of measles that left you with brain damage,I wonder would you then sing a different song.

  • joe

    Don’t forget that Ron ROY also has lost his integrity.

  • KarenHudes

    This second secret Constitution was not ratified and was not signed. It was foisted upon the US through obscure bankruptcy proceedings when the Revolutionary War debt became due. https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Revolutionary+War+Debt.pdf Benjamin Franklin renegotiated the Revolutionary War debts in the Treaty of Paris in 1783 to fall due in 1871 http://www.history.com/topics/american-revolution/treaty-of-paris

    Benjamin Franklin knew what was going to happen when the revolutionary war debts fell due in 1871. The deliberations of the Constitutional Convention of 1787 were held in strict secrecy. In the notes of Dr. James McHenry, one of Maryland’s delegates to the Convention, here is what happened when anxious citizens gathered outside Independence Hall in order to learn what had been produced behind closed doors. A Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.”

    In 1871 when the Revolutionary War Debts fell due, the Bankers replaced the Constitution of 1789 with a second, secret onstitution https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter7.13.16.1.pdf

  • KarenHudes

    Yes. My speech was affected for about two weeks, but it returned to normal, thankfully.

  • Ron Roy

    lost his integrity. Get original joe.

  • Ron Roy

    Measles brain damage? joe that was very rare in the first place and vaccines cause ten times more brain damage. And we don’t have to go far to prove that do we joe. Now turn over and get some more rest.

  • transportjohnny

    Bwaaa!!!!! Slate ……..really!!!!!!!!!

    Yep, for sure a Billary loving commie!!!!

  • Bankers have no more authority to “foist” a new constitution on us than the local quilting guild. Every apparatus of the functioning federal government operates under the constitution of 1789. The executive, the legislature, and the courts do not recognize this hoax constitution as binding on them.

  • Mwa ha ha!! >:-D

  • KarenHudes

    You should look at my dialogue with the legal, accounting and journalism professions to realize that the hoax is on you and not them.

  • KarenHudes

    While you’re at it, look at the study by Vitali, Glattfelder, and Battiston of ETH Zurich http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1107/1107.5728v2.pdf about the super-entity that controls 60% of the profits and 40% of the assets of the 43,000 transnational companies. You can finish up with Gilens and Page, “Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens,” Perspective on Politics, 2014 http://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf that US Congress completely ignores the voters who elected them.

  • KarenHudes

    While you’re at it, look at the study by Vitali, Glattfelder, and Battiston of ETH Zurich http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxi… about the super-entity that controls 60% of the profits and 40% of the assets of the 43,000 transnational companies. You can finish up with Gilens and Page, “Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens,” Perspective on Politics, 2014 http://scholar.princeton.edu/s… that US Congress completely ignores the voters who elected them.

  • Why should I believe you? Conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen. I can’t even tell you how many dupes make hay out of 28 USC 3002.

  • Sonja Henie

    I take him at his word. And you should talk about not having both oars in the water!

  • KarenHudes

    Because I have proof. You don’t. All you do is throw around CIA-invented terms like “conspiracy theory” that have already been debunked. I am not answering any more of your shillery.

  • Vitali, Glattfelder, and Battiston use quotation marks around “super-entity” specifically because it describes a powerful group of many different companies. It has no single agenda, its components are in competition, and it does not have unified leadership. The study indicates relationships between powerful companies, not the existence of a single entity absorbing most of the world’s economic activity.

    Gilens and Page have an interesting analysis that I haven’t finished yet, but I’m not seeing how influence on decisions made in the government established under the 1789 constitution supports the claim that they could have secretly replaced it without anybody credible noticing.

  • And all you’re doing is throwing around silly pages of kooks making claims about gold fringe, capitalization, and the Illuminati. That’s barely evidence, let alone proof. You’ve pulled out the constitution of 1789 with uncorroborated edits and told me that it’s not the constitution of 1789. Why is George Washington’s signature supposedly on it? What validity could these alterations possibly have if Article V was ignored? You and I could sit in a big, spooky room and agree on what the new constitution will be, but all our scheming means nothing if no part of the government actually uses it.

  • Nikka80

    I don’t know a thing about “DARPA scalar military technology” but your aphasia sounds a whole lot more plausible as a TIA – Have you consulted with a neurologist?

  • KarenHudes

    maybe you should learn about DARPA scalar military technology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFWL5NoTAlY
    http://www.g-casa.com/conferences/shanghai/paper_pdf/Liu-mindcontrol.pdf
    for starters. I don’t want to bore you with the details of the attack, but it was not plausible as a TIA because of the other symptoms.

  • shay simmons

    Actually, it happens in every 1,000 cases. Not that rare.

  • shay simmons

    (whew!) At least you didn’t say knitting guild. My cover was almost blown.

  • Shhhh!! You’re gonna expose our whole shadow knitting government!!

  • Ron Roy

    Not true

  • KarenHudes

    So Ken, where are you, my man? No response? Then why is it you think the Network of Global Corporate Control identified by Vitali, Glattfelder, and Battiston of ETH Zurich http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxi… or
    Gilens and Page “Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites,
    Interest Groups, and Average Citizens,” Perspective on Politics, 2014 http://scholar.princeton.edu/s… are harmless? Evidence, my man. Where is the evidence to back up your bald assertions? You seem to have antagonized half of the other commenters on Vactruth’s article with similar shenanigans.

  • KarenHudes

    The second secret Constitution was being used, Ken. That is why the US Congress has declared a state of emergency ever since 1861 and why the Governors stopped giving title to property and just gave “warrants” of title under the war powers.
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/war+powers.pdf
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/war+powersexhibits.pdf
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/warpowers.pdf
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/warpowers1.pdf

    And then saying that the courts do not follow this? The Courts are not sitting under Article III of the Constitution of 1789. Instead they are using mumbo jumbo under bank signature cards to deem that the parties in their courts have consented to mere administrative courts. http://famguardian.org/publications/invisiblecontracts/invcontrcts–thehelpfile.pdf Why do you think Anton Scalia was murdered? https://ia800207.us.archive.org/0/items/Twiter3.20.16/Twiter3.20.16.pdf The Governors and Adjutants General are unwilling to go on record that the Constitution of 1789 is in effect.

  • Nikka80

    How is it that YOU, in particular, might be a valid target of “mind control” technologies? Seems that radical Muslim Jihadists would be a better target!

  • shay simmons
  • KarenHudes

    Then why wouldn’t the Governors and Adjutants General say the Constitution of 1789 was in effect? You try and put words in my mouth because YOU HAVE NO ANSWER.
    you are a waste of time.

  • You are posting the mumbo jumbo, Karen. Jerry McNeil’s complaint relies on the pseudolegal assertion that he is not a person, and most of your sources are either just third party claims or assertion in letter or essay form, or citations to statutes or cases that don’t say anything close to what you claim they do.

    Do you have any specific and falsifiable claims?

  • When did they refuse?

  • shay simmons

    Wardrobe by Edith Head. Dynamite.

  • KarenHudes

    None of the 50 governors and their Adjutants general have confirmed to the American people that the Constitution of 1789 is in force and effect; I put this on the record on twitter after writing to each of them personally in this letter: https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudeslgovernorsandadjutantgenerals.pdf During this interregnum until the Constitution of 1789 goes back into effect, as the Overseer Mandate Trustee on the trust that contains the US’ monetary gold reserves, I vote the shares of the United States on the Board of Governors, Boards of Executive Directors of the World Bank and IMF and on the Joint Ministerial Committee of the Boards of Governors of the Bank and the Fund on
    the Transfer of Real Resources to Developing Countries. https://s3.amazonaws.com/khuds/Twitter2.8.26.2.pdf

  • joe

    THIS IS AN EXCERPT FROM YOUR CDC—-Measles is still common in other countries. The virus is highly
    contagious and can spread rapidly in areas where people are not
    vaccinated. Worldwide, an estimated 20 million people get measles and
    146,000 people die from the disease each year—that equals about 400
    deaths every day or about 17 deaths every hour—–YES RON 17 DEATHS PER HOUR, YOUR TURN. Do we have 17 deaths per hour resulting from vaccination? Well RON do we?

  • joe

    Yes Ron, Shay has given you link,go and read it.

  • KarenHudes

    My previous comment is now being moderated by Vactruth. My letters asking the 50 Governors and their Adjutants General to go on record whether the Constitution of 1789 was in effect was posted on their twitter accounts several times at https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter6.6.16.pdf
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter6.7.16.pdf
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter5.20.16.3.pdf I spoke with Governor Branstad’s liaison to Washington during the National Governors’ Association Conference in Iowa last week, as well as to Governor Larry Hogan’s staff during the Conference about amnesty arrangements as we transition back to the Constitution of 1789 and take delivery of the US’ monetary gold reserves in the Global Debt Facility. This comment is getting posted on twitter whether or not Vactruth deigns to publish it.

  • …so they won’t answer you on Twitter, and that’s your evidence?

  • KarenHudes

    I have been writing to the Governors for five years now, and the correspondence is a matter of public record. Now their staff is interested in talking to me about amnesty as a condition when the US’ monetary gold reserves are released . This is necessary in order to transition peacefully. I have also been discussing this on my social media, because it is controversial and many need to understand the depth of the corruption and that this is a matter of survival of humanity.

  • Ron Roy

    More BS from an arm of the MEDICAL MAFIA.

  • KarenHudes

    Because everyone is sending me documentary evidence, such as the bankers’ claims that we need to repay Revolutionary War debts that fell due in 1871, and was the justification for the second, secret Constitution: https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Revolutionary+War+Debt.pdf

  • David

    I do research on blindness caused by measles. I have dealt with hundreds of such cases. I have never seen a single case of someone going blind from mmr vaccine.

  • It’s not controversial, it’s ridiculous. You come off as a garden variety kook that public officials don’t have time for. If they started answering silly questions they’d start getting more silly questions and soon they wouldn’t have time for anything else. They’d just spend all day explaining that they aren’t aware of any space aliens in Nebraska and that to the best of their knowledge, human beings are people, and no, they are not aware of any evidence that the Queen of England is their reptilian overlord. Then they’d be accused of lying anyway. What’s the point of responding? You’ll spin it to your theory no matter what they say or don’t say.

  • Of course vactruth moderates comments.

  • Your level of in denial and mind rotted claims of, “its only a kooky and false conspiracy theory”, and no matter how much evidence is thrown back at you, just lost the argument and directly in its tracks for you, right there.

  • Really, and is that how and why I continue to manage to continually show you to be incorrect as to every post you make; and because I don’t have both boat oars in the water? False accusations without evidence make you to be nothing but a non credible and make it up as you go, liar. You as well simply have no ability to face vaccine reality, and/or the real truth regarding the now and for the past 100 years, big pharma schooled and mislead medical model,

  • All evidence is not created equal. Hers is junk.

  • Really? And where did that take place? Your shameless and make it up as you go, liar.

    Look, I have not been vaccinated for anything in well over 4 decades. There are millions of adults existing that the same thing can be said for, or if vaccinated, that have been very minimally. Where does your so called vaccine derived herd immunity exist at. Are you so ignorant as to think that vaccine derived herd immunity only requires vaccinating school children and teens? Do you actually think that vaccine derived antibodies last and protect for life? They certainly and obviously do not.

    So what you are telling me is that approximately 49 doses of 14 vaccines, and with at least 28 of those toxic and known contaminated doses injected by the age of 2, and as well 69 does of 16 vaccines by the age of 18 is the proper thing to do, and the only thing you can do? And you can as well find no reason for the major decline in health of the children, and nor the typical and increasing chronic health conditions they are so often diagnoses with today? I did not see that when I went to school in the 70’s. So how do you explain that? Just another coincidence and as well the increased autism rates, right?

    Your false fear mongering is nothing but a product of the false vaccine propaganda that you have been fed. You as well do nothing but simply re-parrot again and again the very same misinformation, the lies, and the false teachings you were fed.

  • Where are those cases and what evidence can you present with?

  • Keep on drinking that WHO and Bill Gates, fear mongering, Kool-Aid. Instead of toxic and contaminated vaccines which many children are to sickly and undernourished to tolerate; instead lets provide fresh drinking water and some nutritious food? How about some vitamin supplements as well, such as vitamin A and C, etc.

  • How much fact checking have you done other than from the biased and in denial sources we know of, as to the risk of vaccine injury and harm from the MMR vaccine? So in your denial you disregard the risks of the MMR vaccine, and only continue to falsely fear monger about the risk of natural measles.

    Measles BEFORE The Public Brainwashing
    http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/measles-brainwashed-public/

    The truth about the measles, natural immunity, and the vaccine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-truth-about-the-measles-natural-immunity-and-the-vaccine.html

    The Current Failure of Pertussis and Measles Vaccine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-current-failure-of-pertussis-and-measles-vaccine.html

    Biomedical Treatment in Autism (ASD)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/biomedical-treatment-in-autism-asd.html

    Polio Wasn’t Vanquished by Vaccines, It Was Redefined
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/polio-wasnt-vanquished-by-vaccines-it-was-redefined/

    The REAL History Behind the Polio Vaccine
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2013/the-real-history-behind-the-polio-vaccine/

    Nicholas Gonzalez, M.D. – Scientifically No Polio Vaccine was Needed
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/nicholas-gonzalez-m-d-scientifically-no-polio-vaccine-was-needed/

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign
    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

  • David

    Are you kidding? It is not like they are uncommon. Come to my office for one and I will show you a whole bunch of patients that had childhood measles and have the characteristic eye changes. Or go to any school for the blind. These are the ones that did not die!
    Measles still causes 60 000 cases of blindness worldwide yearly

    http://www.aao.org/eye-health/tips-prevention/six-ways-measles-can-affect-eyes-2

  • Why don’t you just take those articles and put them in a file titled, The Sheeples Guide on How to Maintain your Denial and Selective Ignorance? Perhaps if you made enough copies, you could sell them.

  • Do you go in for the David Icke reptilian story?

  • KarenHudes

    What specific evidence do you not like? This chrolonogy of my whistleblowing http://kahudes.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/exhibit3.pdf went into my testimony to the EU Parliament: http://kahudes.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/EuropeanpArliament.PDF Do you also think that the power transition model that I discussed with then-Senator Hagel that came from the US National War College is also junk? After my testimony in the UK and EU Parliaments, this model is predicting a return to the rule of law. https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/sentia+model.pdf

  • Yes. Anybody can publish anything they want on their own websites or Amazon Web Services and all you’ve shown me are self-curated assertions. Do you have anything to corroborate these assertions that you didn’t publish yourself?

    EDIT: Hopefully more convincing than the testimony of a person who insists that he isn’t a person.

  • David

    luckily no one will ever listen to you and you can continue to rant from your arm chair. did you even go to university —I doubt it as you have no critical thinking ability.

  • I believe that hers are obviously correct, and yours are junk. I as well have studied that issue before, and much more as to what radical changes came behind it, and which adversely affects the public situation to the current day.

    You will say and do anything possible to deny that there is any truth in that information. The reason is that you simply insist on stereo-typing any anti-goverment truth information, and well as any anti-vaccine-vaccine truth information, as being one and the same, and as if all of it comes ONLY from some sort of whacky conspiracy theorists. You have more than exposed here the obvious existence of those nearly rabid intentions.

  • KarenHudes

    You forgot to respond to my previous comment about the UK & EU Parliaments website: House of Commons Public Administration Committee, Written Evidence for the inquiry into Complaints Do They Make A Difference, published July 20, 2013, pages 186-7 (Elaine Colville, another World Bank Whistleblower’s testimony is on Page 178) available here
    http://www.parliament.uk/documents/commons-committees/public-administration/Complaints-1-consolidated-13-sept.pdf
    The European Parliament Committee on Budgetary Control Hearing on Whistleblowing May 25, 2011 available here:
    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/document/activities/cont/201105/20110518ATT19540/20110518ATT19540EN.pdf

  • You believe anything, literally anything, that tells you The Enemy is lying and you’re privy to The Secret Truth. That is your ONLY standard of evidence. Rigor, impartiality, consistency, and repeatability are completely irrelevant to you. What you believe is irrelevant to thinking people.

  • Never heard of it, and I don’t care to. Does it have anything to do with the information in the article you are posting on, above? Of course not. And your point is?

  • David

    Your evidence is from “vac facts” and “Liberty beacon”. Please use acceptable published sources.

  • Ah, so they published some of your testimony without comment as to its quality or truthfulness. How does this demonstrate the existence in force of a new secret constitution ratified by deceased conventioneers from 12 of the 37 states?

  • David

    I find it so funny your sources. You can’t really expect an academic to even look at these?

  • I’m just curious how far down the rabbit hole you are so far. David Icke believes that the world is controlled by reptilian creatures who take human forms and hold positions of power, such as the Queen of England.

  • Just another load of lying and make it up as you go, B.S. Everything you stated is something that actually I follow and strive for in all the research that do, and in all that I put forth. Actually if you followed at all in any honesty what i have and put forth; and if you had even as much as shred of honesty within you, you would see and know that.

    You are nothing but the devils deceptive tool. In your obviously high level of hypocrisy, you are doing nothing but attempting to falsely trash and entirely misrepresent what exists in this situation, and all of it in its entirety.

    You as well obviously sit on these articles for 15 or more hours a day, waiting for reply notifications; and obviously that is all you are doing here, 7 days a week. As to any reply that is posted here, you are back in here within just a very few minutes. That is not just simply someone spending some time reply posting here, but someone who is obviously beyond sick, and obsessed.

  • I can’t go to work, I can’t go to Baltimore, I can barely go out for lunch, and it’s really easy to check for notifications to pass the time. You can call it sick and twisted hypocrisy to reply frequently with a shred of skepticism, but I call it not going nuts from boredom.

  • That is not how it works. I use dozens and dozens of well qualified references sources, and to include multiple dozens of scientific studies, etc..You do not just simply get a banks check here just because you are pro-vaccine, and a check handed to you with the false assumption that you have it right and that all of your sources of information are correct. That is what you call a fair playing table, and with all the information on the table and allowed to be on the table. If you want to object to every form of counter information and the opposing evidence put forth, then you are in fact here to debate in honesty, nothing at all. So, therefore there is obviously no point to you being here, if it is only going to be sanctioned by you as you controlling the information, and pro-vax business as usual.

    It is and will be your responsibility to address and refute the information put forth, and not to simply be issued a blank check filled in with your false accusations, as I said; and that in fact your arse can not actually cash. Do you understand?

  • KarenHudes

    In this context why should Vactruth allow anonymous unaccountable persons with an obvious axe to grind like this Ken S to slur me without my being able to respond? Vactruth is only harming its own credibility after I post my response anyway in social media on Twitter @KarenHudes on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/karen.hudes.10 and on my website http://www.kahudes.net

    In the meanwhile, one comment that Vactruth is still moderating has now gone to the 50,000 people that follow me in my social media directly, and been retweeted 7 times on Twitter. There are people with many thousands in their own networks that forward my postings to others out on the internet.

    Ken S. wanted to know what the EU and UK Parliaments thought of my testimony: http://kahudes.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/exhibit4.pdf Four MP’s followed up with questions to Cameron about the UK’s monetary gold reserves: https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/international+gold+reserves.pdf

    One only needs to see what happened with the Brexit vote and what is now going on for Cameron and Greening to see what the impact is of the disclosures about the Federal Reserve and the rest of the deep international corruption in the fractional reserve fiat currency system
    @KarenHudes Jul 20
    Here is why Justine Greening is stepping down as International Development Secretary https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter2.9.16.2.pdf
    18 retweets 11 likes

  • Simply being pro-vaccine, does not make you an academic. In fact just the opposite is true. It never ceases to amaze me how arrogant and stubbornly entrenched in the false vaccine propaganda and misinformation, the pro-vax side of this, is. So you think as well that evidence of the historical truth on vaccines, is funny? You obviously have a warped sense of humor. The entire history of vaccines has been largely nothing but false information based on only correlation equals causation. The real story shows what the CDC has told us, to be nothing much but fiction and based as well on nothing more than decades of misinformation and corruption.

  • David

    I am a professor at a university so yes I am an academic. What about you?
    As I said those are laughable references and you would be laughed out of any meeting. Those are conspiracy sites with no peer review.
    Please quote actual studies that have peer review and have been published. Not “articles” written by disgraced doctors that are just trying to sell alternative products

  • I am not down any rabbit hole at all, you ranting and rambling fabricating false claims as you go, obviously twisted and delusional man.

    Have I used him, or anything such as that, as reference? No I have not. So anyone who ever spoke a word of CDC contradicting vaccine truth, and/or opposing government truth; is similar to a David Icke clone? Really, that is how narrow and simple minded you actually are. Just say it, that is what you are implying. If not; then what is being implied?

  • No, skepticism is good. It’s just that you’re not a skeptic. You’re a dogmatic denier.

  • David

    You act like this is an equal argument. It is you, some chiros, some naturopaths, and a few disgraced MD who sell alternative products versus all the academic institutions in the world, all the governments, all the world health agencies and 99.99% of practicing doctors.

  • KarenHudes

    So Ken, we are still waiting for you to explain the Gilens and Page finding https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/05/23/critics-challenge-our-portrait-of-americas-political-inequality-heres-5-ways-they-are-wrong/ that the Network of Global Corporate Control shapes U.S. government policy while Americans have essentially no influence over what their government does.

  • I don’t know? Why should it allow shill comments based on no evidence?

    Citation needed that Ken S only wants to slur you.

  • I’m not going to, because I don’t disagree with it. It’s a good analysis, from what I can tell. It doesn’t indicate that the constitution was secretly replaced by men who were already dead.

  • KarenHudes

    See my response below to One other person is typing, who was defending Vactruth’s moderation of my comments. I talked about how people now understand the underlying corruption in the international financial system is due to the system of fractional reserve fiat currency. The Fed is a foreign company that foisted a second secret Constitution on the US.

  • KarenHudes

    I leave that judgment to readers of this blog, after they see his comments.

  • Except that you’re wrong. No agency, legislature, or court cites or defers to the alleged second secret constitution, which was apparently ratified by corpses, since you claim it is not the constitution of 1789.

  • That doesn’t answer the question at all.

  • You are simply displaying more undeserved and delusional levels arrogance. Doctors and Pediatricians get very little training in and as to what is in vaccines, and even less on how all those ingredients play a beneficial or detrimental role in human health. Face it they do not even have a clue what those vaccines are doing. How many doctors could actually explain verbally the immunological differences between assumed vaccine derived immunity, and that of natural immunity? Even immunologists are clueless to actual vaccine safety issues and as well because the actually needed safety studies on the combined vaccine schedule, have never been done.

    Where are the safety studies regarding the practice of giving a small child from 5 to 9 or more vaccines in a single day and office visit, have never been done. And still children that receive such an over-load of vaccines leave that office and become vaccine injured- quite often. What happens then? The doctors simply deny it had anything to do with the vaccines. Now you can just go file a claim at the federal vaccine court, as no one is held responsible, period.

    Where as well are your safety studies regarding aluminum adjuvants? Studies that would counter the independent study findings of resulting injected aluminum over activation of the brains microglia cells, and with resulting long term levels of brain inflammation. That now as well has been found in children with autism. Dr Russell Blaylock has also don’t a really good job of explaining how that, and much more.

    An extensive listing of applicable studies and data.

    Vaccine aluminum adjuvant causation of neuroglial activation and neuroinflammation in the brain of patients with autism- Page 2
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-aluminum-adjuvant-causation-of-neuroglial-activation-and-neuroinflammation-in-the-brain-of-patients-with-autism–page-2.html

    More Aluminum Adjuvant Harm Done Studies
    http://www.vacfacts.info/more-aluminum-adjuvant-harm-done-studies.html

    3 IMPORTANT REASONS WHY ALUMINUM SHOULD NOT BE PUT INTO VACCINES
    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/09/19/3-important-reasons-why-aluminum-should-not-be-put-into-vaccines/

    Danger of Aluminum in Vaccines
    Vaccines Contain Too Much Aluminum

    The aluminum in vaccines IS dangerous, for two reasons: 1) there is too much of it, and 2) it is present in an especially dangerous nanoparticulate form (more on that later).

    According to the US vaccination schedule recommended by the CDC, infants may receive the following (maximum) dosages of Al adjuvant:

    Birth (Hep B): 74 mcg/kg (250 mcg for 3.4 kg infant)
    2 month: 245 mcg/kg (1225 mcg for 5 kg infant)
    4 month: 150 mcg/kg (975 mcg for 6.5 kg infant)
    6 month: 153 mcg/kg (1225 mcg for 8 kg infant)
    Total: 622mcg/kg 3675 mcg

    DTaP Al content ranges from 170-625mcg (these calculations assume 625mcg. Since it is given 3 times, the DTaP vaccine has a large effect on the Al dose).

    It is reasonable to sum the mcg/kg dosage (i.e. assert that the 622mcg/kg number is relevant), because Al adjuvant remains in the body for months. Most of the Al adjuvant remains in the body longer than the 6 months it takes to receive 622mcg/kg.

    These numbers are based on the maximum possible amount of aluminum, since some vaccines have different amounts, depending on manufacturer. Source link for the aluminum content of vaccines is the Vaccine Education Center of the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, and Dr Paul Offit.

    Pneumococcal 0.125 mg
    Diphtheria-tetanus-pertussis (DTaP) 0.17-0.625 mg
    Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) 0.225 mg
    Hib/Hep B 0.225 mg
    Hep A (for children) 0.225-0.25 mg
    Hepatitis B (Hep B) 0.250 mg
    Hep A/Hep B 0.45 mg
    DTaP/inactivated polio/ Hep B 0.85 mg
    DTaP/inactivated polio/Hib 0.33 mg
    Human Papillomavirus (HPV) 0.225 mg

    Read more:
    http://vaccinepapers.org/danger-aluminum-vaccines/

    Dr. Paul Offit’s Aluminum Deceptions and Academic Misconduct
    http://vaccinepapers.org/dr-paul-offits-aluminum-deceptions-academic-misconduct/

    More related articles
    http://vaccinepapers.org/

    Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic Ph.D, fortæller om Gardasil og autoimmune sygdomme
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5MDipufkYU

    Where are you studies in regard to the known issue of vaccine contamination? How about where are your studies in regard to the short and long chain DNA contamination that has been by Sound Choice Pharmaceitical Institute, and that in the vaccines that are now created the antigen being grown on aborted fetal cell tissue?

    Dr Theresa Deisher – Worldwide Autism Epidemic & Human Fetal Manufactured Contaminated Vaccines
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bc6WX33SuE

    Impact of environmental factors on the prevalence of autistic disorder after 1979
    http://thewe.cc/thewe_/_/pdf/environmental-factors-autism-since-1979.pdf

    Use of Aborted Human Cell Lines in Vaccines Linked to Rise in Autism,
    http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/use-of-aborted-human-cell-lines-in-vaccines-linked-to-rise-in-autism/

    Title: Spontaneous Integration of Human DNA Fragments into Host Genome
    K. Koyama, T. A. Deisher
    Sound Choice Pharmaceutical Institute, Seattle, WA
    http://soundchoice.s3.amazonaws.com/soundchoice/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/DNA_Contaminants_in_Vaccines_Can_Integrate_Into_Childrens_Genes.pdf

    HUMAN FETAL DNA FRAGMENTS IN VACCINES ARE A POSSIBLE CAUSE FOR AUTISM – ACCORDING TO THIS STANFORD SCIENTIST

    Dr. Theresa Deisher, a PhD in Molecular and Cellular Physiology from Stanford University, the first person to discover adult cardiac derived stem cells, determined that residual human fetal DNA fragments in vaccines may be one of the causes of autism in children through vaccination.

    “It is possible that these contaminating fragments could be incorporated into a child’s genome and disrupt normal gene function, leading to autistic phenotypes.”

    Read more:
    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/09/05/human-fetal-dna-fragments-in-vaccines-are-a-possible-cause-for-autism-according-to-this-stanford-scientist/

    Vaccine Production With – Human Diploid cells (aborted fetal cell tissue)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-production-with—human-diploid-cells-aborted-fetal-cell—tissue.html

    What Are MRC-5 and WI-38? And Why Are They in Vaccines?
    http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/mrc-5-wi-38-vaccines/#comment-185539

  • David

    Ok. Here is an example of the effectiveness of the introduction of the gardasil vaccine on a population
    http://m.jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2013/06/18/infdis.jit192.short

  • And that is just another load of BS. You need to wake up and get honest. So if you tell yourself that does it make you feel better about the injected toxic and contaminated multiple vaccines that you are pushing on everyone’s infant, and child on the planet?

    Paul Offit states that infants could safely tolerate 10,000 vaccines in a single day, and all based off of not any level of injected vaccine exposure, but simply estimated environmental exposure to germs and antigens. How scientifically irresponsible is that. No wonder these reckless doctors and even Pediatricians think that it is safe to inject a small child with 5 and up to 9 or more vaccines in a single day. They as well have no liability and nothing to worry about. They will just simply deny that vaccines were the cause of the profound vaccine injuries that the child received, and if the child dies and they simply call it SIDS, they walk away again with simply their middle finger up in the air and a denial that it was connected to the vaccines. This is how corrupt it is, and exactly how big pharma and CDC mislead they all are.

  • No one could be any more dogmatic and in denial than you are, big scars in your head, Kenny. But then, when ever were you anything more than an obviously delusional hypocrite.

  • These pro-vax shills actually have the audacity to talk about, and claim to personal integrity. Apparently they have no comprehension of what hypocrisy is.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

  • Is THIS actually supposed to impress somebody? And you obviously have no idea how long the expose can and would be to included all of the negative issues that are now actually proven to exist with the HPV 4 strain vaccine, and now the 9 strain which is Gardasil 9. Where as well is your evidence that Gardasil has ever prevented one single case of cervical cancer, and/or that it ever will. For a so SELF aggrandized academic, I think you are actually clueless as to what those HPV vaccines are doing. Educating someone like you is as well going to be a waste of time; but the readers here perhaps can get something out of this and those looking for the truth. This as well is not all about studies and available studies; that in itself is the problem, the lack of actual safety studies. This is about evidence as to the reality of what that vaccine has done, period. Your game going here is denial of all; and while mine is directed toward only exposure of the truth.

    Results. Among females aged 14–19 years, the vaccine-type HPV prevalence (HPV-6, -11, -16, or -18) decreased from 11.5% (95% confidence interval [CI], 9.2–14.4) in 2003–2006 to 5.1% (95% CI, 3.8–6.6) in 2007–2010, a decline of 56% (95% CI, 38–69). Among other age groups, the prevalence did not differ significantly between the 2 time periods (P > .05). The vaccine effectiveness of at least 1 dose was 82% (95% CI, 53–93).

    Conclusions. Within 4 years of vaccine introduction, the vaccine-type HPV prevalence decreased among females aged 14–19 years despite low vaccine uptake. The estimated vaccine effectiveness was high.

    And your doctor is STILL going to tell you that Gardasil is safe and effective. Could this mindless level of vaccine brainwashing even get any worse? Erin Crawford’s HPV vaccine injury and the destruction of her health!!!!! Listen closely. AutismOne

    HPV Vaccine Survivor Recovery Panel
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-pr_1gFKA

    Viral DNA bound to aluminum may mediate HPV vaccination side effects – Sin Hang Lee, MD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzPVqzY8quo

    HPV Vaccine Maker’s Study Proves Natural HPV Infection Beneficial, Not Deadly
    Written By: Kelly Brogan, M.D. and Sayer Ji, Founder

    Behind every vaccine is an assumption. That HPV causes cervical cancer, that cervical cancer causes death, and that a vaccine can effectively interfere with this linear relationship is the assumption to be examined in this article. Cervarix is a vaccine recommended to girls beginning as early as 9 years old, intended to protect against HPV strains 16 and 18 upon completion of a 3 dose series. It is an aluminum-containing product, with notable “immunogenicity”.

    A new GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) funded study published in the Journal of Infectious Diseases has revealed that HPV infection, resulting in naturally acquired human papilloma virus (HPV) antibodies, reduces the risk for new infection and cervical abnormalities linked to cancer in non-HPV vaccinated subjects.

    In addition to this startling finding – additional GSK-funded research from this year revealed that the HPV vaccine may not protect women against high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions, dysplasias.

    If, in fact, the HPV vaccines do not work as widely advertised, and natural HPV infectious exposures actually protect against the progression of HPV linked cervical changes to cancer, then taken together, both these findings challenge the most fundamental assumptions within vaccine science (aka vaccinology), and render highly dubious the oft repeated rhetoric that natural HPV infection is juggernaut –like deadly force the best defense against which are universal immunization campaigns.

    HPV Infection Protects Against New Infection and Cervical ‘Premalignancies’

    The groundbreaking new study titled, Risk of newly detected infections and cervical abnormalities in women seropositive for naturally-acquired HPV-16/18 antibodies: analysis of the control arm of PATRICIA, analyzed data from the non-vaccinated control arm of the Papilloma Trial against Cancer in Young Adults (PATRICIA), to ascertain whether natural HPV16 and HPV18 antibodies reduced the risk for new HPV infection and/or cervical abnormalities over a 300 day period. A total of 16,656 women were included in the study’s control arm (8,193 women in the HPV16 analysis and 8,463 women in the HPV18 analysis), with none of the women being administered the HPV vaccine.

    It should be noted that this is one of the first studies to look at the natural history of HPV infection and immunity, as well as one of the first studies to show the validity of using the control arm data from vaccine efficacy trials. The control arm did, however, receive three doses of the Hepatitis A vaccine. As there are no vaccine studies in existence using a true non-vaccinated control group, the natural incidence of a disease, as well as the true risks of a vaccine cannot be effectively assessed.

    The study found that the presence of natural antibodies against HPV16, considered one of the most malignant of the over 120 unique types identified, lowered the risk for newly detected infection and a type of abnormal pap smear result known as ASC-US+ or ‘atypical squamous cells of undetermined significance’. The same protective effect was found for natural HPV18 antibodies, only to a lesser extent.

    …………

    2. It appears there is a correlation between antibodies related to infection and protection from dysplasia (cellular abnormalities) rather than infection progressing definitively to cancer. The commonly held notion that naturally transmitted HPV infection and subsequent elevation of antibody titers is a disease process that leads inevitably to tissue pathology and possibly precancer or cancer, rather than an instance of the immune system effectively meeting the HPV viral challenging and responding with an appropriate antibody response, conferring lasting immunity, is debunked by this new study. Clearly, natural infection not only prevents reinfection, but even reduces the risk of HPV’s potential induction of dysplastic cellular changes associated with cancer.

    READ more:
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/hpv-vaccine-maker-s-study-shows-natural-hpv-infection-beneficial-not-deadly

    HPV vaccine may not protect women against high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions, dysplasias
    Mahmud SM. J Clin Oncol. 2014;doi:10.1200/JCO.2013.51.4265.
    http://www.healio.com/hematology-oncology/cancer-prevention/news/online/%7B0c273308-2b91-4dcf-89a5-f12d84a8e6e9%7D/hpv-vaccine-may-not-protect-women-against-high-grade-squamous-intraepithelial-lesions-dysplasias

    Vaccination may contribute to causing a wide variety of autoimmune disorders.

    Abstract Title:
    Vaccines and autoimmune diseases of the adult.

    Abstract Source:
    Discov Med. 2010 Feb;9(45):90-7. PMID: 20193633

    Abstract Author(s):
    Hedi Orbach, Nancy Agmon-Levin, Gisele Zandman-Goddard

    Article Affiliation:
    Department of Medicine B, Wolfson Medical Center, Holon, Israel.

    Abstract:
    Infectious agents contribute to the environmental factors involved in the development of autoimmune diseases possibly through molecular mimicry mechanisms. Hence, it is feasible that vaccinations may also contribute to the mosaic of autoimmunity. Evidence for the association of vaccinations and the development of these diseases is presented in this review. Infrequently reported post-vaccination autoimmune diseases include systemic lupus erythematosus, rheumatoid arthritis, inflammatory myopathies, multiple sclerosis, Guillain-Barré syndrome, and vasculitis. In addition, we will discuss macrophagic myofasciitis, aluminum containing vaccines, and the recent evidence for autoimmunity following the use of human papillomavirus vaccine.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20193633

    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article/vaccination-may-contribute-causing-wide-variety-autoimmune-disorders

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    Abstract Title:
    Quantifying the possible cross-reactivity risk of an HPV16 vaccine.

    Abstract Source:
    J Exp Ther Oncol. 2009;8(1):65-76. PMID: 19827272

    Abstract Author(s):
    Darja Kanduc

    Article Affiliation:
    Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, University of Bari, Italy.

    Abstract:
    BACKGROUND: The potential adverse events associated with vaccination for infectious diseases underscore the need for effective analysis and definition of possible vaccine side effects. Using the HPV16 proteome as a model, we quantified the actual and theoretical risks of anti-HPV16 vaccination, and defined the potential disease spectrum derived from concomitant cross-reactions with the human organism. METHODS: We searched the primary sequence of the HPV16 proteome for heptamer aminoacid sequences shared with human proteins using the Protein International Resource database. RESULTS: The human proteome contains 82 heptapeptides and two octapeptides found in HPV16. The viral matches are spread among proteins involved in fundamental processes, such as cell differentiation and growth and neurosensory regulation. The human proteins containing the HPV16-derived heptamers include cell-adhesion molecules, leukocyte differentiation antigens, enzymes, proteins associated with spermatogenesis, transcription factors, and neuronal antigens. The number of viral matches and their locations make the occurrence of side autoimmune cross-reactions in the human host following HPV16-based vaccination almost unavoidable. CONCLUSIONS: Any antigen-based vaccine needs to be carefully and thoroughly designed and critically screened for potential side effects by comparing sequence similarity at the molecular level.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19827272

    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article/hpv16-vaccine-carries-it-significant-cross-reactivity-risk-due-homologies-exist-between-hpv

    HPV Vaccine Can Make You Susceptible to More Serious Strains of HPV

    Women Vaccinated for HPV May Be at Higher Risk of HPV Infection

    In an analysis of nearly 600 women between the ages of 20 and 26, 60 percent of those who had received the original Gardasil vaccine, which protects against only four strains (types) of HPV (6,11,16,18), had a higher risk of being infected with another non-vaccine HPV virus strain.

    The unvaccinated women had lower rates of the non-vaccine high-risk strains of HPV, which suggests getting vaccinated may make you more susceptible to being infected with other strains of HPV.

    The researchers’ solution to the problem was to suggest women who already have gotten three doses of the original four-strain Gardasil vaccine now get another shot of a new Gardasil vaccine, which contains nine different HPV strains.

    In December 2014, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved Gardasil 9 that includes five additional HPV types (31, 33, 45, 52, 58) not found in the original vaccine. So if you have already received one or more doses of the original Gardasil vaccine, you may actually be at a higher risk of being infected with the five additional HPV types than if you had never been vaccinated at all.

    And if you’re already infected with one of the four to nine types of HPV viruses in either the original or new Gardasil vaccines, getting vaccinated will not eliminate the infection. Not to mention, there are more than 100 different strains of HPV, 30 of which are sexually transmitted, and about 15 of them have been associated with development of cancer but only IF HPV infection persists over a long period of time and regular pap screen tests are not conducted to identify and treat pre-cancerous cervical lesions.

    Gardasil’s Effectiveness Seriously Questioned

    In 2012, a systematic review of pre- and post-licensure trials of the HPV vaccine by researchers at the University of British Columbia showed that the vaccine’s effectiveness is not only overstated (through the use of selective reporting or “cherry picking” data) but also unproven. In the summary of the clinical trial review, the authors stated quite clearly:4

    ……….

    The Risks of HPV Vaccine Are Significant

    By mid-March 2015, the HPV vaccine Gardasil had generated more than 35,000 adverse reaction reports to the US government, including more than 200 deaths.8

    This is probably a gross underestimate, because, although a federal law was passed in 1986 (the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act) mandating that doctors and other vaccine providers report serious health problems or deaths that occur after vaccination to VAERS, there are no legal penalties for vaccine providers not reporting and it is estimated that perhaps less than 10 percent of the vaccine adverse events that do occur are reported to VAERS.9

    Health problems associated with the Gardasil vaccine include immune-mediated inflammatory neurodegenerative disorders, suggesting that something is causing the immune system to overreact in a detrimental way—sometimes fatally. A growing body of medical literature demonstrates that the HPV vaccine is linked to nervous and immune system disorders in some young women and girls.

    In one case study published in the Journal of Investigative Medicine,10 researchers described the case of a 14-year-old girl who developed postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS) with chronic fatigue two months following Gardasil vaccination.

    POTS is a disorder of the autonomic nervous system, which controls functions in your body such as your heart rate, balance, digestion, bladder control, and sleep. While rare, incidence of POTS appears to be increasing and emerging evidence suggests it may be an autoimmune disorder, in which your immune system mistakenly attacks your own body.

    In the case study, POTS fulfilled the criteria for a condition known as autoimmune/auto-inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants (ASIA), highlighting the underlying mechanisms of how vaccines, and particularly their adjuvants (such as aluminum), may be triggering disease. Gardasil contains an aluminum adjuvant, which is designed to hyper-stimulate the immune system to provoke a strong antibody response.

    A second study, published in the European Journal of Neurology,11 described six patients who developed POTS from six days to two months following HPV vaccination. In addition, deadly blood clots, acute respiratory failure, cardiac arrest and “sudden death due to unknown causes” have all occurred in girls after they’ve received the Gardasil vaccine.

    Read more:
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/05/05/hpv-vaccine-gardasil.aspx

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    HPV Vaccine Linked to Nervous System Disorder and Autoimmunity
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/10/21/gardasil-hpv-vaccine-adverse-reactions.aspx

    This was a case study in which 3 patients with autoimmune/auto-inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants (ASIA) after quadrivalent human papillomavirus vaccination (HPV).

    Abstract Title:
    Autoimmune/auto-inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants (ASIA) after quadrivalent human papillomavirus vaccination in Colombians: a call for personalised medicine.

    Abstract Source:
    Clin Exp Rheumatol. 2015 May 11. Epub 2015 May 11. PMID: 25962455

    Abstract Author(s):
    Juan-Manuel Anaya, Benjamin Reyes, Ana M Perdomo-Arciniegas, Bernardo Camacho-Rodríguez, Adriana Rojas-Villarraga

    Article Affiliation:
    Juan-Manuel Anaya

    Abstract:
    This was a case study in which 3 patients with autoimmune/auto-inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants (ASIA) after quadrivalent human papillomavirus vaccination (HPV) were evaluated and described. All the patients were women. Diagnosis consisted of HLA-B27 enthesitis related arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis and systemic lupus erythematous, respectively. Our results highlight the risk of developing ASIA after HPV vaccination and may serve to increase the awareness of such a complication. Factors that are predictive of developing autoimmune diseases should be examined at the population level in order to establish preventive measures in at-risk individuals for whom healthcare should be personalized and participatory.

    Article Published Date : May 10, 2015

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25962455

    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article/was-case-study-which-3-patients-autoimmuneauto-inflammatory-syndrome-induced

    “Human papilloma virus vaccine and primary ovarian failure: another facet of the autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants.”

    Abstract Title:
    Human papilloma virus vaccine and primary ovarian failure: another facet of the autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants.

    Abstract Source:
    Am J Reprod Immunol. 2013 Oct ;70(4):309-16. Epub 2013 Jul 31. PMID: 23902317

    Abstract Author(s):
    Serena Colafrancesco, Carlo Perricone, Lucija Tomljenovic, Yehuda Shoenfeld

    Article Affiliation:
    Serena Colafrancesco

    Abstract:
    PROBLEM: Post-vaccination autoimmune phenomena are a major facet of the autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants (ASIA) and different vaccines, including HPV, have been identified as possible causes.

    METHOD OF STUDY: The medical history of three young women who presented with secondary amenorrhea following HPV vaccination was collected. Data regarding type of vaccine, number of vaccination, personal, clinical and serological features, as well as response to treatments were analyzed.

    RESULTS: All three patients developed secondary amenorrhea following HPV vaccinations, which did not resolve upon treatment with hormone replacement therapies. In all three cases sexual development was normal and genetic screen revealed no pertinent abnormalities (i.e., Turner’s syndrome, Fragile X test were all negative). Serological evaluations showed low levels of estradiol and increased FSH and LH and in two cases, specific auto-antibodies were detected (antiovarian and anti thyroid), suggesting that the HPV vaccine triggered an autoimmune response. Pelvic ultrasound did not reveal any abnormalities in any of the three cases. All three patients experienced a range of common non-specific post-vaccine symptoms including nausea, headache, sleep disturbances, arthralgia and a range of cognitive and psychiatric disturbances. According to these clinical features, a diagnosis of primary ovarian failure (POF) was determined which also fulfilled the required criteria for the ASIA syndrome.

    CONCLUSION: We documented here the evidence of the potential of the HPV vaccine to trigger a life-disabling autoimmune condition. The increasing number of similar reports of post HPV vaccine-linked autoimmunity and the uncertainty of long-term clinical benefits of HPV vaccination are a matter of public health that warrants further rigorous inquiry.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23902317

    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/article/human-papilloma-virus-vaccine-and-primary-ovarian-failure-another-facet

    Study Calls Into Question Primary Justification for Vaccines
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/study-disproves-cdcs-primary-justification-vaccination

  • Here is some more for you, and as to the second half of my reply.

    HPV VACCINE: INFORMATION FOR PARENTS AND PATIENTS

    Vaccination against the human papillomavirus (HPV) is widely thought to confer protection in humans against cervical cancer. HPV studies have recently shown that the vaccines can prevent infection with the strains of the virus found in the vaccine. This has been widely covered in the media. IPAK Scientists, however, are concerned by the lack of reporting in the media outlets of troubling results from the same studies that show that vaccinated women also show a higher rate prevalence of overall HPV infection by rarer, potentially more pathogenic strains of HPV. The studies do not address why, but the data are very clear: vaccinated, sexually active women have shown higher rates of infection with riskier HPV types than unvaccinated, sexually active women (Guo et al., 2015)

    Read more:
    http://ipaknowledge.org/HPV-Vaccine—Information-for-Parents-and-Patients.php

    Motor and sensory clinical findings in girls vaccinated against the human papillomavirus from Carmen de Bolivar, Colombia.

    Abstract

    Here I describe neurological symptoms of 62 girls who were immunized against the human papilloma virus (HPV). Most participants (61) are Colombian and received the quadrivalent HPV vaccine Gardasil and a girl from Mexico received the bivalent Cervarix vaccine. The average age was 14.5 years (SD 2.1). This survey reveals an overall pattern of peripheral nervous system damage as demonstrated by complaints of inflammatory and neuropathic pain syndromes in the head, back, chest, arms and legs. There were also sensory and motor syndromes with upper and lower limb numbness and tingling (paraesthesia), muscle weakness and difficulty walking (paresis) accompanied by tremors, muscle spasms and twitches (abnormal movements). Most symptoms appeared after the second vaccine dose, which agrees with greater antibody titers seen in booster dose immunizations. A severely ill 13-year old girl with similar complaints and history of immunization, had high serum auto-antibody titers against nerve tissue as well as marked clinical improvement after anti-inflammatory and antibody removal therapy (plasmapheresis and IVIg). This evidence prompts me to propose an autoimmune hypersensitivity type II reaction triggered by Gardasil whose batch-specific antigens await further research. The general disease pattern described here consistent with a demyelinating disorder might not apply to every girl thus each one should be diagnosed and treated individually. This humble survey hopes to uncover leads to help the investigation sought by the Colombian Higher Courts. We must acknowledge the role played by Health Minister Alejandro Gaviria whose indiscriminate massive immunization campaign as well as absolute neglect and outward mishandling of the epidemic of Serious Adverse Events makes him worthy of consideration for the Nobel Prize in the category of Crimes against Humanity. We hope the International Criminal Court takes action on this issue, today a global matter. We invite scientists worldwide to investigate HPV vaccine lots to understand this disease.

    https://pompiliomartinez.wordpress.com/2016/03/04/motor-and-sensory-clinical-findings-in-girls-vaccinated-against-the-human-papillomavirus-from-carmen-de-bolivar-colombia/

    Attorney Monica Leon Del Rio addresses the current Gardasil situation in Colombia. Will the Colombian health authorities live up to the promises they made to the families left devastated after Gardasil administration?
    Please read this very important press release.

    Link to the press release :
    http://sanevax.org/gardasil-colombia-protesting-parents-progress/

    64 women to sue in three Japanese courts over health woes from cervical cancer vaccines
    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/07/13/national/crime-legal/64-women-to-sue-over-health-woes-from-cervical-cancer-vaccines/#.V45xYlQrIdV

    Gardasil devastation is NO coincidence
    http://sanevax.org/gardasil-devastation-no-coincidence/

    Claims of HPV vaccine effectiveness, but again at what cost increased risk of other even more dangerous strains of HPV?

    Comparison of HPV prevalence between HPV-vaccinated and non-vaccinated young adult women (20-26 years)

    Conclusion: HPV vaccination was effective for the protection against all four vaccine types in young adult women. Vaccinated women had a higher prevalence of nonvaccine high-risk types, which suggests that they may benefit from vaccines that cover additional types of HPV.
    Table 1. Type-specific HPV prevalence among US adult women by HPV vaccination status.

    http://www.abstractsonline.com/plan/ViewAbstract.aspx?mID=3682&sKey=7f019f73-accb-484e-becc-5ecc405f8ec5&cKey=e2313b32-d6ac-4443-ab2d-49c368ea3b89&mKey=19573a54-ae8f-4e00-9c23-bd6d62268424

    The point of this information and expose is to address the issues of original antigenic sin in regard to vaccination. Quite obviously there is an issue as well regarding this concept and the addition of Gardasil 9. Clearly they have already seen the low effectiveness of this vaccine in regard to the additional strains of HPV added to this new and latest vaccine, and apparently in comparison to those who recieved only Gardasil 9, and not the previous 4 strain HPV vaccine. In the article it statesd that Merck is reluctant to provide advice on revaccination on the basis of these preliminary results. “We don’t know what [the reduced antibody titer] means,” (Vichnin says). Really? A vaccijne maker like Merck does not actually understadn the concet of original antigenic sin, and which of course ONLY related to vaccine derived antibodies and which is not what occurs with natural immunity. Read as well the related article by Suzanne Humphries, MD and Roman Bystrianyk, below.

    Updated, augmented vaccines compete with original antigenic sin – Gardasil

    In late December 2014, Sony Salzman, a 25-year-old living in New York City, heard about the approval of Gardasil 9, the latest human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine created by Merck, and called her gynecologist to ask about the vaccine. Having been vaccinated eight years ago with the previous version, simply called Gardasil, Salzman was interested in receiving the improved version of the vaccine. “But the folks at the doctor’s office had no idea there was even a new version,” Salzman says.

    Chalking their ignorance up to the relative newness of the vaccine—it had only been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on 10 December—Salzman waited and then asked again in
    April 2015. “I didn’t get a very clear answer on whether I could get the vaccine,” Salzman says. “

    What worries some researchers is that individuals who already received vaccination against HPV will not respond to the augmented vaccine version with more strains because of an immunological concept known as ‘original antigenic sin.’

    Gardasil challenge When it comes to the label recommendation for revaccination with Gardasil 9, some questions loom. In February, the ACIP voted to recommend Gardasil 9 as one of three possible vaccines a person could get to help prevent HPV infection or one of the cancers caused by the virus. However, the ACIP meeting in February was cut short owing to weather concerns, so the discussion surrounding revaccination was postponed.

    Consequently, the topic of revaccination with Gardasil 9 may come up at the end of June when the ACIP will have the second of its three annual meetings in Atlanta.

    The current indication for Gardasil 9, which was approved by the FDA in December 2014, is for boys and girls who have never been vaccinated with any type of HPV vaccine before.

    Merck has tested Gardasil 9 in girls and women who have already received the older, quadrivalent version of Gardasil, but so far these tests have only looked at safety and immunogenicity.

    Preliminary unpublished results from this trial showed that the production of antibodies against the four viral types common to both versions of the vaccine increased slightly in this group
    compared with those who received Gardasil 9 and had never been previously immunized against HPV. However, antibody titers against the five added viral strains in Gardasil 9 among the former group were only 25% and 63% of that seen in people who received Gardasil 9 alone.

    Merck is reluctant to provide advice on revaccination on the basis of these preliminary results. “We don’t know what [the reduced antibody titer] means,” Vichnin says. “This information is provided to physicians and patients, and it’s an individual decision.”

    The ACIP has also hesitated to make a recommendation. “There’s some data but it’s mostly safety data,” Markowitz says. “But there’s not an indication for revaccination on the label [of the vaccine].” There have been cost-effectiveness data collected by the CDC but they haven’t been formally presented yet.

    Read more:
    http://moscow.sci-hub.cc/304d0ce5621349c755e6db81da6f1231/chakradhar2015.pdf

    Updated, augmented vaccines compete with original antigenic sin
    http://www.nature.com/nm/journal/v21/n6/full/nm0615-540.html

    Women Who Received HPV Vaccine May Need Another Shot (actually the CDC and Pediatrics is clueless as to what do and recommend now, because they can see this study controversy has come to light, and as to now seeing increased insidence and virulence of other HPV types. Doctors and Pediatricians do not even have a solid recommendation yet from the CDC, on Gardasil 9)
    http://www.livescience.com/50563-hpv-vaccine-infections-prevalence.html

    Original Antigenic Sin Committed by Vaccination
    By Suzanne Humphries, MD and Roman Bystrianyk – VRAN Newsletter, Fall 2013
    http://vaccinechoicecanada.com/resources/books-periodicals/original-antigenic-sin-committed-by-vaccination/

    The Currently Failed Flu Vaccine Expose/ With Original Antigenic Sin Study Info
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-currently-failed-flu-vaccine-expose-with-original-antigenic-sin-study-info.html

    Molecular Mimicry as a Mechanism of Autoimmune Disease

    Chronic autoimmune diseases are the byproduct of the immune system recognizing self-antigens as foreign, which can lead to inflammation and destruction of specific tissues and organs (immunopathology) [1]. The impact of these diseases is global and heterogeneous with over 100 million people afflicted with more than 80 different autoimmune diseases [2]. While the etiology of autoimmune diseases is not fully elucidated, the causes are likely based on a combination of hereditary and environmental factors [3]. Although host genetic background contributes to the induction of an immune response to self, epidemiological and molecular evidence implicates infectious agents (viral and bacterial) as the principal environmental insults responsible for the induction of autoimmune diseases (reviewed in [4–6]). Prolonged proinflammatory responses to infections have been associated with the initiation and exacerbation of autoimmune diseases (reviewed in [4, 7, 8]). Inflammation is facilitated by proinflammatory cytokines such as type I interferon (IFN), interleukin (IL)-1β, IL-12, IFNγ, IL-17 and tumor necrosis factor (TNF) α (reviewed in [7, 9, 10]). However, these proinflammatory cytokines are critical for clearance of pathogens, suggesting that environmental factors are able to divert the immune response towards immunopathogenesis.

    Read more:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3266166/

    Molecular Mimicry: The Unseen Risk in Vaccines
    https://jameslyonsweiler.com/molecular-mimicry-the-unseen-risk-in-vaccines/

    Med Hypotheses. 2008;70(2):346-8. Epub 2007 Jul 13.
    Acquired autoimmunity after viral vaccination is caused by molecular mimicry and antigen complimentarity in the presence of an immunologic adjuvant and specific HLA patterns.

    Waisbren BA Sr1.

    Abstract
    Acquired autoimmunity syndromes occur after viral vaccinations. Molecular mimicry is involved in these phenomena as is the necessity for the presence of two chemically complimentary antigens and an immunologic adjuvant. The HLA pattern of the host is also an important factor. The example used to explain these phenomena is demyelinating disease that follows hepatitis B vaccination. The somatic antigen of the hepatitis B virus in the vaccine has chemical complimentarity with the Epstein-Barr virus antigen in the vaccine recipient. The Epstein-Barr virus shows molecular mimicry with human myelin. The immunologic adjuvant is either present in the vaccine or muramyl peptides in the individual who is vaccinated. Why more than one type of autoimmune disease occurs is explained by the fact that specific autoimmune T-cells have been shown to develop clones that attack multiple human tissues.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17630224

    ACQUIRED AUTOIMMUNITY AFTER VIRAL VACCINATION IS CAUSED BY MOLECULAR MIMICRY AND ANTIGEN COMPLIMENTARITY IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IMMUNOLOGIC ADJUVANT AND SPECIFIC HLA PATTERNS (Waisbren BA Sr[Author]
    http://www.waisbrenclinic.com/autoimmunity-viral-vaccination.pdf

    Molecular Mimicry and Autoimmune Disease
    Mar 24, 2014 by Chandler Marrs, PhD

    Over the last several years the debate over whether the molecular mimicry observed in vaccines, viruses and other pathogens can evoke autoimmune disease has garnered considerable interest. The argument behind molecular mimicry is that if foreign pathogens like bacteria, viruses and vaccines are similar enough in structure or function to our innate, ‘self’ peptide sequences, they can evoke an autoimmune response in the exposed individual. This suggests that a molecular mimic contained in a pathogen is the Trojan horse that tricks the body into activating or over-activating an immune response. Recent reports suggest some evidence that this may be true. Other research suggests that the entire notion is fundamentally flawed. On which side one falls, rests upon how one understands immunity. Is the immune system an army that identifies self from non-self invaders and fends off the foreigners or is it a more finely tuned system that only activates when danger or damage is present?

    Read more:
    https://www.hormonesmatter.com/molecular-mimicry-autoimmune-disease/

    Autism and the Microbiome:Can Vaccination Cause Molecular Mimicry?
    http://www.ageofautism.com/2014/11/autism-and-the-microbiomecan-vaccination-cause-molecular-mimicry.html

    Welcome to IPAK’s CDC Accountability Project Page.

    For the past six months, IPAK scientists have been working with a legal team to work out the basis of a complaint against the CDC for their handling of vaccine safety science. The public is invited to participate as co-plaintiffs by joining the CDC Accountability Project. Our approach is based on legal theory researched by Prof. Mary Holland, who recently told the world about the threats to informed consent during her presentation at the United Nations.

    We will reveal the legal theory behind our complaint, and the likely suit, when we file the complaint. All donors will receive a copy of the complaint via email.The relief we seek is to have CDC stop misinforming the public on the state of science linking vaccines and autism.

    CDC ACCOUNTABILITY PROJECT – CDC BUSTED

    http://ipaknowledge.org/CDC-Accountability-Project.php

  • Actually, no I am not kidding. Are you in your own mind simply to be assumed to be of and with so much existing so called academic knowledge and special; that you do not need to provide any evidence, and/or reference at all for your claims? Such baseless arrogance.

    If the issue is blindness, then why is it a priority to only provide vaccines, when a good and adequate diet, and as well adequate amounts of vitamin A in the diet, appear to largely resolve the problem of blindness??? Why is not Bill Gates not doing something, and about that?

    Below is your said study.

    Surv Ophthalmol. 2004 Mar-Apr;49(2):243-55.
    Measles blindness.
    Semba RD1, Bloem MW.

    Abstract
    Measles remains a major problem in developing countries, where it affects an estimated 30 million children a year and causes up to one million deaths annually. Measles blindness is the single leading cause of blindness among children in low income countries, accounting for an estimated 15,000 to 60,000 cases of blindness per year. There is a close synergism between measles and vitamin A deficiency that can result in xerophthalmia, with corneal ulceration, keratomalacia, and subsequent corneal scarring or phthisis bulbi. High-dose oral vitamin A supplementation is recommended for all children with measles in developing countries. Higher measles immunization coverage to interrupt measles transmission and interventions aimed at improving vitamin A nutriture of children are the main strategies to prevent measles blindness.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14998696

    And obviously as well you are oblivious to the information that Dr Andrew Moulden put forth in regard to the aluminum adjuvant and inflammatory cytokine based immune responses which when combined have caused ischemia/hypoxia in children and even infants that have been vaccinated. It is not just the killed/attenuated vaccines that are causing this but live vaccines like the MMR vaccine as well. The same was true in the polio days and was at times seen in those who had survived the more severe forms of polio paralysis. Ischemic stroke in infants and children cause lesions on the cranial nerves within the brain and face, causing results that look like a milder stroke. If the child is not re-vaccinated some of them can have and do recover, but often parents and doctors are unaware of what happened and simply continue the vaccinations and with at times seriously damaging and debilitating results.

    Here and further into the video, Dr Kenneth Stoller explains how this said vaccine caused ischemia is caused by vaccines in small children, (listen closely)

    Autism Is A Medical Problem And There Is Proven, Effective Medical Treatment – Dr. Stoller, MD (a former American Academy of Pediatrics-Pediatrician)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnD8Il2PS9E

    Biomedical Treatment For Autism
    Video interviews with Parents, Medical Professionals and Researchers
    http://www.biomedicaltreatmentforautism.com/

    Dr. Andrew Moulden: Learning to Identify Vaccine Damage
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/dr-andrew-moulden-learning-to-identify-vaccine-damage/

    Vaccination toxicity: The Zeta phase of MASS and “blood sludging”
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccination-toxicity-the-zeta-phase-of-mass-and-ldquoblood-sludgingrdquo.html

    Vaccine Caused Ischemia/Hypoxia (slow loading, lots of informational videos)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-caused-ischemiahypoxia.html

  • David

    How is that a load of BS. I said every university, every governing body, every international health organization,every hospital and every single medical/nursing college suggests vaccinating as per the current vaccination schedule. And that is every country in the world.
    Do you deny that this is true? Do you need references for this?

  • Ron Roy

    Very intellectual answer. That college education really paid off.

  • David

    Call it what will. But your lack of scientific credentials will never get you a seat at the table. You will always be regulated to being a non-influential mouthpiece in a chat room on a website. Whereas people like myself who has an MD, MPH and medical specialization will be designing and implementing health policies around the world.

  • Ron Roy

    Are you a student of David( the master shill ) Gorski? Or a close personal friend maybe?

  • Ron Roy

    Do you go for David Gorski?

  • Ron Roy

    A professor I’m impressed. NOT Spend a lot of time miss educating sheeple do you?

  • I am not referring to only the frequency of your replying and posts, but as to sick and twisted levels of hypocrisy, even far more-so I am referring to the content of your posts. So then go sit outside in the yard, and drink a beer, a pop, or eat a bowl of Cherrios. Anything but further reply post here with your endless and antagonizing nonsense. Your said boredom is not our problem; so quit using this site simply for your own entertainment, and that in taking it all out on those who reply post here.

  • KarenHudes

    You are putting words in my mouth, and ignoring what I said. The second, secret Constitution was not ratified, it was a bankruptcy scam put into place by the bankers.

  • Ron Roy

    We have to forgive joe those flu vaccine have caught up to him Alzheimers you know. He should have listened to Hugh Fudenberg.

  • Ron Roy

    All students of Gorski the master shill.

  • David

    Still waiting to here your education Ron Roy. You challenged me so let’s here about the community college you went to

  • What college education?

  • I dunno, what does he say?

  • If you didn’t want to talk to me, you wouldn’t be talking to me. I enjoy talking to you. :-)

  • KarenHudes

    That is correct, because you are ignoring my other comment, which is that the second, secret Constitution was not ratified because it went into effect through a bankruptcy proceeding. The Federal judiciary are all betraying their oaths of office and are not sitting in Article III courts under the Constitution of 1789. The legal profession is complicit in this corruption. Three days after I called Justice Scalia out for this corruption, he was murdered. We will never know if Justice Scalia was going to require Congress to convene a Constitutional Convention under Article V of the Constitution of 1789. This shows how Senator Chuck Grassley and Justice Stephen Breyer are covering up this corruption in the international financial system.

  • If it wasn’t signed, why did you show me a signed constitution as evidence? If the changes weren’t made under the Article V procedures, what gives them any force at all? Can you show me any (verifiable) action the United States federal government has taken that is consistent with the secret constitution and NOT the constitution of 1789?

  • If no agency, legislature, or court defers to the alleged second, secret constitution, then that kind of suggests that it is not actually in force. Bankers do not have the authority to amend the constitution on their own and have anybody else pay attention.

  • KarenHudes

    The document that I tried to post is not showing up; this is how Justice Stephen Breyer and Senator Chuck Grassley are covering up the corruption in the international financial system caused by fractional reserve fiat currency. https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter4.14.16.1.pdf

  • Possibly it is resulting from the vaccines over-activation of the brains own immune system, known as the microglia cells, and with resulting chronic levels of long term brain inflammation; likely as well co-existing with a condition known as vaccine caused ischemia/hypoxia. He should have listened to Dr Russell Blaylock, and Dr Andrew Moulden. Instead, he simply listened to the lies and misinformation of the big pharma shill blogging quacksters, David Gorski, and the infamous Stephen Barrett. Not a smart choice.

  • More self-published junk. More Letters From Kook City.

  • Did you see the pictures he posted of himself, on a previous article? So just why would he post that?

    http://i.imgur.com/ZfcpLep.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/zUlLCkH.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/MlTSb7B.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/F1lSYzM.jpg

    Posted here:
    https://vactruth.com/2016/06/16/infant-died-8-vaccine-doses/

  • Oh, Jesus, the National Liberty Alliance? The goons who are demanding free stuff from the counties in order to set up fake grand juries that are nothing like an actual grand jury? Great friends you’ve got there.

  • Ron Roy

    I had the good fortune of never having been miss educate by attending schools of higher learning. However I was born with what is commonly known as common sense and a conscience and that has been more than sufficient to carry me through life.

  • Translation in common sense English: I do not care what the truth is. I will continue to wrap by brain around the false vaccine propaganda that I have been fed, and that all of the public has been fed. Regardless of what you can show evidenced for and even scientific study evidence for, I can and will reject it as I am important and academically based man. Even if what you say is true and you can show directly the evidence for it, it does not matter as we are not going to lose our careers, our credibility, and our status because what you can say and show; that all can be entirely ignored by us in our so called academic institutions, and no one like you doing independent research will ever cut off the branch we sit on.

    Unfortunately for you so called David, you just clearly admitted to exactly that. This sites editor is the father of a previously vaccine injured child. This site deals in information in the form of informational articles, directed to individuals and parents, who may not know, and or are still seeking and want the vaccine truth. How does this all look for you at this point, and as to your obvious arrogance, and denial? When you post, most of you people are simply doing the pro-vaccine agenda, far more harm than good. So what is your solution? Stop posting on this site.

  • Exactly.

    Vaccine Shills and Their Bullying Tactics
    http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?58790-Vaccine-Shills-and-Their-Bullying-Tactics

    Dr. David Gorski named in medical conspiracy allegations complaint filed with Karmanos Cancer Center and Michigan Attorney General. (Blogger at “science blogs” and author of so called, “Science Based Medicine).
    http://www.naturalnews.com/053736_Dr_David_Gorski_medical_conspiracy_allegations_Karmanos_Cancer_Center.html

    Professor David Gorski, a well-known online character assassin masquerading as a science defender

    Internet Trolls Attack Anyone Resisting Vaccine Party Line

    Excerpted: The more you read, the more you start to realize that there is a growing number of doctors, scientists, nurses, and other health care providers who have serious questions about the current vaccine paradigm favored by the pharmaceutical industry, government agencies, such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Food and Drug Administration (FDA), medical trade groups, and the mainstream media.

    Increasingly, professionals within a wide range of health care and science fields are giving interviews and writing articles and books voicing their concerns about vaccine risks, the misrepresentation of the historical role of vaccines in reducing mortality from infectious diseases, the expanding schedule and number of vaccines mandated, or even the basic mechanism theories behind vaccine science.

    Predictably, every time you give the name of a contrarian doctor or scientist in response to the 99.9% figure, what you tend to get is, “Eh, well, he’s a quack, she’s not credible.” Also, you get referred to blogs such as Science-Based Medicine,1 or Respectful Insolence,2 or the Skeptical Raptor’s Blog.3 They’re often written by or associated with a guy named David Gorski, MD, who also goes by the alias “Orac.” Gorski is a surgical oncologist and an assistant professor of surgery at Wayne State University School of Medicine in Detroit, MI.4

    Should you wish to debunk someone, anyone, who dares to disagree with mainstream thinking on vaccines, all you need do is inform Orac, and the good doctor will gladly oblige by writing up a boorish piece, long on insult and short on science. Orac’s methods are painfully predictable. In one piece earlier this year, he criticized a prominent immunologist5 who had the nerve to write an open letter on vaccine science to state legislators in California about to vote on a bill eliminating personal belief vaccine exemptions. He started out by dismissing the individual’s credentials outright. Orac writes:

    Read more:
    http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2015/11/internet-trolls-attack-anyone-resisting-vaccine-party-line/

    “Science”Blogs: Seed Media’s Aggressive Weed
    Part I: Fertilizer From Pharma
    http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/09/scienceblogs-seed-medias-aggressive-weed.html

    Least We Forget the Blatant Cruelty of the Vaccine Industry and Their Propagandized Trolls and Shills
    http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2014/06/26/least-we-forget-the-blatant-cruelty-of-the-vaccine-industry-their-propagandized-trolls-and-shills/

  • Mark

    ha ha i knew it. No wonder you have no ability to think critically. Go back to school, learn statistics and critical thinking, and maybe then we can talk.

  • Mark

    so lowell, when people provide statistics from governmental agencies, CDC and WHO then it is just people drinking the Kool aid. But when you provide unsubstantiated claims and statistics from anti vax websites we are supposed to believe them.
    Also if suddenly some statistics jives with your world view, then suddenly it is OK to quote the CDC and the WHO

  • Mark

    You and Ron Roy, need to get a bomb shelter and hide there from the evil government. All the MDs of the world…you know those smart guys in your high school that actually went to university….yeah those guys…all have the ability to critically think and follow the vaccine schedule.

  • Mark

    Definition of delusion: an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.
    Pretty well sums up Lowell and Rob Roy. Even though every MD, government, medical institution and international organization in the world support vaccines…these two guys without more than a high school education think they know more?? It is laughable

  • Actually, I will never need a bomb shelter, and I have nothing to fear, or to hide from. Life is what it is, and all anyone can do is try to make it a better place. Unlike you, obviously I accept life at its face value, and I do not have any need to recoil from reality, and in into a fantasy world of denial.

    As well, quite obviously it is you that has a near to zero ability to critically think, and to follow anything but the profits and money. Wake up.

  • Playing your IGNORANCE card, simply will not work.

  • I don’t know the guy. What’s he say? If I agree with it, I’ll say so.

  • Pot calling the kettle black, and with the kettle full of, stinking, boiling over, and smoldering hypocrisy. Come on Mark, you have not said anything actually intelligent here since you first posted. Isn’t it time for us to see some of your critical thinking, in action? Quite obviously we are never going to see anything but more antagonizing, and the throwing of only more false and unsubstantiated accusations and poo at the wall, from this guy.

  • joe

    This is one of many links provided to you by KEN S —–http://www.slate.com/articles/…—-He provided some more,I can fetch them if need be,You called me a LIAR in relation to this,therefore you have lost all integrity with me.you are in the same boat as RON ROY—SS NO INTEGRITY.

  • What I do is compare the independently found and true historical data, and the information recorded from the same time periods, and that to the misinformation data that such as the WHO and CDC have put forth. Historical record information recorded by those who lived at the time, and from as well medical doctors and personnel that had no conflicts of interest in the scheme to promote vaccines as the next best thing since sliced bread.

    I do not find anything within the CDC and WHO data to be scientifically substantiated and other than by a means of alleged correlation equals causation. There were quite obviously many other factors as well involved, and which remain ignored by your claimed to side of the statistics table.

    Actually I can not think of any statistics in regard to so called VPD reduction or eradication that jive with the independent info and data. Perhaps you should try comparing apples to apples and oranges to oranges, and when speaking of various subject vaccine issues and matters, there is absolutely times and depending on the issue when the CDC data can be used, and as well at times against them. As hard as it may be for you to accept, there is some information that is not disputed. Lets say for an example the amounts of aluminum in vaccines that the CDC lists on their site, etc. There is no disagreement with that.

  • Would it be possible for you to write a post that is actually coherent?

    I have already addressed those article links directly on the posts Ken S made. What more do you want? Is nothing enough? So tell me…if so …what were you called a liar in regard to?

  • Not playing your game, period.

  • joe

    Sorry I forgot you have minimal education and have reading problems,YOU called me a liar,you tell me what it was in regard to.

  • joe

    There is something wrong with you mf sicko.

  • The only thing at all laughable here is your own major level of self maintained, and disgusting ignorance. Just keep drinking that false propaganda KoolAid and re-parroting the false claims the public was fed. You people as well actually have no vaccine safety science, much more anything that is sufficient. If you had been paying attention you should have once and for all, realized that

    Now Mark, instead of making false and unsubstantiated claims and accusations such as that, lets see you actually dig into the reply posting here and refute all the posts that contain the vaccine information and as well the reference information that they do. All of it in regard to the subject matter of vaccines. Lets see something more and other than just more continual antagonizing, false labeling and false personal accusations, and as well just more of the typical and the same old distractions, and disruption?

  • joe

    This is the point I am making REFUTE THE LINK HE HAS PROVIDED,is that simple enough for you. doo yoo un der stand?

  • Oh hell no; that is not how it works. You made the accusation. I am not going to review again every post that you made here and that I have replied to; there are far to many posts. Either you outline and explain the claim you have made, or you simply admit to that it was not true. I am not playing your game.

  • shay simmons

    Your tax dollars at work, Lowell. I spent years training in how to evaluate intel sources.

    Yours suck.

  • joe

    You said “I do not care what the truth is” yes Lowell you are a ANTI VAXXER through and through you admit you don’t care about the truth and people who don’t care about the truth have no INTEGRITY, AND YOU HAVE NO INTEGRITY.and knowing this,the posters here still have the manners to talk to you.

  • You do not give me or direct to me orders on anything, ever. And especially not in regard to an idiotic writing like that, titled; What does online discussion tell us about the psychology of conspiracy theories?

    That beyond major level of ignorance filled article is nothing but an expose on how to deny that there are any questions left and issues surrounding 9/11 and the fall of the twin towers, as well building 7. Anyone with their mind and eyes open knows that there are major questions still unanswered as to 9/11. That article takes the mind set that it does not care about those unanswered questions, and is as said only an expose on how to make arguments that ignore all of the findings and make an person asking those questions look like some kind of fool.

    That is why I as well told Ken S that he should create a file of all of those articles he posted, and then title it, The Sheeple’s Guide to Maintaining Your Selective Ignorance. In this case deliberate, ignorance.

    Now, unless you have a vaccine related issue to address, I suggest that you do not bother to make and waste any more of the readers time; and with your irrelevant to the vaccine issue, personal judgement attacks.

  • joe

    Are we getting 17 deaths per hour from vaccination? simple answer is NO Ron.

  • Really? He Ken S posted those pictures, not I. I am simply asking what the relevance of posting that was; and as it in fact pertained to nothing at all within the subject matters of actual posting discussion. You can’t even as much as form a coherent post, and you point the finger in every direction but at yourself.

  • joe

    Your comment that you posted 8 hours ago,what was I lying about?—Really? And where did that take place? Your shameless and make it up as you go, liar.

  • So again you failed to answer my question. Then give it up.

  • joe

    No you can’t read—— 8 hours ago you said and I quote—“Really And where did that take place?Your shameless and make it up as you go liar”— end quote, do you deny making this statement calling me a liar. the question is why did you call me a liar?If you can’t remember then there is no hope for you.

  • No one replied to you on this post. Quite obviously I do care what the vaccine truth is, and I have never stated that I didn’t. I do not appreciate someone replying to me here as if they are typing in a state of drunken stupor. All of this persons posts need to be deleted, and this character name joe, needs to be banned. If people can not reply in any more honesty, and in any better more sensible form than that, they do not and should not have any place here at all.

  • Really? And what sucks about it; that you can not even answer directly to any of it in any honesty and nor refute anything that is put forth? You need to suck it up and stop being so careless and lazy. Accusations mean nothing without evidence and proof.

  • No, what i said is detail what you were accused of, and as well why you were falsely accused. Anything less is just playing games.

    You reply like you are drunk, and I said that before. If that is not the case, then what is actually wrong with you?

    Here is the post you made and actually it appears to show to be 2 days ago and not 8 hrs ago.

    joe Lowell Hubbs • 2 days ago
    Actually you don’t,plenty of links were provided to you on other forums,you know Lowell pride is a curse,you know you are wrong but refuse to admit it,common sense does not work with you,I think the only thing that MIGHT work and I stress MIGHT,is if you copped a full blast of something that you have not been vaccinated against,lets say a good dose of measles that left you with brain damage,I wonder would you then sing a different song.
    1 • Reply•Share ›

    Now, explain to me exactly how and why you did not deserve to be called a liar; as every rambling claim you have made there, is actually false and a lie. Either that, or it is all only falsely imagined in your twisted mind. Get started.

  • Your game, your rules, brother

  • I said, not playing, your game. Rules, what rules; you actually follow some sort of rules? Since when? And you sure are, no brother.

  • joe

    Links were provided to you on another forum—is that a lie?

    possibility of brain damage due to measles—is that a lie?

  • We’re all brothers on this planet, no other way we can survive it

  • joe

    Lowell Hubbs joe • 9 hours ago

    Really? And where did that take place? You are a shameless and make it up as you go liar.— NO look up the page,you made the comment 9 HOURS AGO

  • Just because your post looks like some drunk or mentally handicapped person wrote it; don’t be accusing me of a lack of reading and comprehension skills.

    As well in your post above, you falsely claim that it was stated that there are 49 doses of vaccine by the age of two. Where in your incompetence filled and make it up as you go memory, did you come up with that; and from where? There are somewhere between 28 to 30 doses of vaccine by the age of two, and 49 doses of 14 vaccines by the age of six. There exist as well approximately 69 doses of 16 vaccines by the age of 18, and if you take them all. You do absolutely no actual fact checking, and then wonder why people call you a liar; and then with no details you go on to make 5 more posts, again alleging that you were wrongfully called as liar. You are not mentally and cognitively fit to reply post here, and nor are you knowledgeable enough to do so, and that is all to obvious. My suggestion is to find another hobby.

  • This was the section of your reply I was referring to.

    [It is you, some chiros, some naturopaths, and a few disgraced MD who sell alternative products versus ………]

    Just because the entire big pharma brainwashed world vaccinates, is actually irrelevant in and as to making the claim for vaccine safety, and effectiveness. That they vaccinate has never been of course, ever disputed.

    And yes, I have put forth more than enough references on it, in making the case.

  • KarenHudes

    The National Liberty Alliance has been captured by some shills at the top.

  • Links to what, on another forum? You are attempting to write alleged information checks that your arse, can not cash. If that is the best you can do, then that is beyond pathetic. And you have references, to nothing. Just false and imaginary allegations. Yes, that is a direct lie, and false information. Face it.

    No one said that measles did not carry a low and rare risk of brain damage. However the obvious brain and vaccine injury risk of the MMR vaccine, has proven to be much higher.

  • joe

    NO I DID NOT MAKE THAT STATEMENT,I refuted that statement that was in YOUR post by saying it is only 39 by age 5

  • Ah.

  • joe

    I made a statement to you that you have problems refuting other peoples links or statements, you called me a liar.

  • You have no intention of being any part of that, and/or any part of a solution outcome. People like you are the problem, and why it became, and remains as it is

  • I’m a pretty passionate guy. If I thought you were right, I’d probably have wound up in federal prison by now.

  • And in fact you are a liar. and that is entirely untrue. Either that, or you are so beyond mislead delusional, that you can not tell fact from fiction, and nor reality and truth, from misinformation. So next time I as well suggest that you stick to reply posting on this article, and what exists on this article, and this sites articles, and by responding to only one article at a time. Like I said, do not make any claims that you can not back up with evidence.

  • What a misguided and stupid statement. Go right ahead and explain, why would that be?

  • joe

    How many hours ago that you called me a liar –2days NO Lowell 9 hours.

  • KarenHudes

    Your first assumption is incorrect. Agencies and federal courts are all following it, and US Congress is extending a state of emergency in order to keep it in place, and the federal judges are not sitting in Article III Courts under the Constitution of 1789. They are not amending the Constitution. They have put the debtors into bankruptcy. As I mentioned to “One other person is typing” 7 hours ago, who wanted: “[c]itation … that Ken S only wants to slur you” the fact that Ken S keeps on making the same comment over and over again is evidence that Ken S is either incredibly stupid or he is a shill.

  • joe

    You still did not succeed in refuting his link.

  • Apparently then you did not read your entire reply post.

    There it is again, for you.

    [ joe Lowell Hubbs • 3 hours ago
    This is one of many links provided to you by KEN S —–http://www.slate.com/articles/… also provided some more,I can fetch them if need be,You called me a LIAR in relation to this,therefore you have lost all integrity with me,you are in the same boat as RON ROY—SS NO INTEGRITY.—-also links to holistic health and tenpenny PLEEZE,49 doses by age 2 WRONG ONLY 39 UP TO AGE 5,]

    All you have to do is go to the CDC vaccine schedule, and to see that there are far more than 39 injected doses of vaccine, by the age of 6. Do you disagree as well that it is a total of 14 vaccines, by the age of 6? How about there being 69 doses of 16 vaccines by the age of 18; do you disagree with those numbers, as well?

  • Because if the state was attempting to harm my family and neighbors, legality becomes a secondary concern to protecting my family and neighbors. I don’t always look before I leap, so I suspect I’d get in significant trouble if I was motivated.

  • So what have they done that is consistent with the alleged Bankers’ Constitution of 1871 that is inconsistent with the United States Constitution of 1789?

  • KarenHudes

    I cited http://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf Gilens and Page, “Testing Theories of American Politics:
    Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens,” Perspective on Politics, 2014 that US Congress ignores its constituents. That is pretty powerful evidence. Ken S. has tried to ignore it, and then said it had not shown anything. Hello? US Congress is ignoring its constituents? That is not a republic governed by the Constitution of 1789. Also, the US Congress has refused to convene an Article V Convention. That is also evidence that the Constitution of 1789 is not in effect.

  • And according to you, nothing would ever be enough, and/or good enough. And really; what in your warped mind, did I miss? In fact I outlined what that article actually contains, perfectly. Just face it.

  • Frankly, I’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop as far as a Vactruth ban is concerned. I have been very antagonistic to the site’s position on vaccination and those who defend it.

  • Doesn’t matter when I responded to it, it is the very same post you made. And if you have nothing to hide, why did you delete it? I seen that you deleted at least one other post as well, and in which obviously even you realized the level of nonsense that it contained. I tried to respond to it, and it came back stating that it was non-active.

  • Except that it isn’t. As long as powerful interests can use their wealth to influence elections, they will have a Congress sympathetic to their interests above ours. That is evidence of influence over voters and representatives, not of the existence in force of a secret constitution.

  • KarenHudes

    Administrative Courts and not Article III Courts. That is what. I have said this in four other comments, Ken. As I said earlier, you are using all of the tricks of the shill trade.

  • Neat, except that I’m not being paid by anybody. Which administrative courts?

  • KarenHudes

    You have not read the study. The constituents have no influence whatsoever. Nada, even negatively correlated. The study is very clever, and does not mention the Network of Global Corporate Control identified by Vitali, Glattfelder, and Battiston of ETH Zurich http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1107/1107.5728v2.pdf, attributing the positions of the Network to rich Americans.

  • 1. They show a negative correlation between the desires of non-wealthy voters and outcomes? Where?
    2. Can you name some of the Rich Americans who rule America in the absence of constitutional government?

  • No one has said here that-that is happening. No one has said that the state and nor the gov’t is currently doing that. Since 9-11, and the not so Patriot Act, Homeland Security, NSA, etc; and dozens of executive orders the President has signed, the government has potentially a lot more power than it had before, and that it can use against us; and that if the gov’t were choose to. All of that in itself, truly involves the unconstitutional issues that we should be concerned about as Americans; and in taking back this country, and if that is even yet possible, at this point. We have an election coming up, and hope for the best. We certainly will get no where with the corrupt all her life, Hillary. Until, “We The People”, again means something significant in this country, it will only get much worse.

  • Ugh, this is the most depressing election of my life.

  • Actually this is the best election ever, and in a long time, It has been years since we have had a Presidential candidate, Donald Trump, and that will speak his conscience, and that tells the truth. Go vote for Hillary all you want, but it will only dig this countries hole, much deeper..

  • AutismDadd

    Must make you homesick

  • AutismDadd

    Go take a shower stinky

  • KarenHudes

    The federal courts are not sitting in equity, Ken, as provided under Article III of the Constitution of 1789. The judges have betrayed their oaths of office and are merely presiding over administrative courts. These administrative courts: https://www.1215.org/lawnotes/work-in-progress/article-iii-court-by-ed-rivera.pdf

  • KarenHudes

    If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.

  • How can he speak his conscience when he doesn’t have one?

  • Nah, I don’t like New York City. The only spot I like is Montero’s on Atlantic and Hicks in Brooklyn.

  • Do you have any explanation for how the Judiciary Act of 1789 is invalid and the courts constituted thereby are invalidated?

  • You are arguing with me, therefore you are a paid shill for the NLA. Q.E.D.

  • And so are you saying that Hillary does have a conscience? And what evidence do you have for the claim that Trump has no conscience? You are the person that actually has no conscience, and is evident by reckless stupidity of your reply posting. Does Obama have a conscience?

    This is the first President that in fact can not be bought off by the big money and the special interests. In fact he is accepting no pay at all for being President. There are no other viable choices. So who are you voting for, if not Trump? I know, you are just going to sit home and continue to whine about it. Are you even registered?

  • KarenHudes

    My response to this comment was deleted. No problem, I can rewrite it. The quality of my testimony to the UK Parliament can be seen by what happened with David Cameron and Justine Greening. 4 MP’s questioned the UK government about the UK’s monetary gold reserves being administered by the Board of Governors of the World Bank: https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/international+gold+reserves.pdf
    A UK citizen followed up with Justine Greening based on my testimony to the UK Parliament:
    https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter5.27.16.2.pdf

    My testimony to the EU Parliament is discussed is this correspondence with EU (the chronology referred to in the correspondence is at

    http://kahudes.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/exhibit3.pdf: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bzss7Q0pShvzSk94eVUyWlpaVU0/edit?usp=sharing
    Dear Mr. Barnette,
    I would appreciate if you would inform members of the DC Government about the unresolved governance issues at the Bretton Woods Institutions that we discussed, because as I mentioned, the World Bank will continue to decentralize jobs at headquarters to other countries until the largest shareholder plays by the rules. The above version of my paper on whistleblower protections in the EU went to the US Congress and the members of the European Parliament Committee on Budgetary Control. The chronology (pages 24-34) did not appear on the Committee’s website for the public hearing on May 25, 2011.
    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/document/activities/cont/201105/20110518ATT19540/20110518ATT19540EN.pdf
    Sincerely,
    Karen Hudes
    Law Offices of Karen Hudes
    http://www.kahudes.net
    ________________________________________
    From: karenhudes
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: CONT Hearing May 25, 2011
    Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 08:04:14 -0400

    Christoph,

    Thank you so much for asking. A cover-up at the apex of the international financial system must be resolved. An issuer of bonds on the capital markets may not remain out of compliance, and its regulators must also be held accountable. The code of professional responsibility for the legal profession is quite explicit under these circumstances. My obligations as an economist familiar with the international monetary system also came into play. I attach the stakeholder analysis which I mentioned in footnote 8.

    Best,
    Karen

    Jacek Kugler, Ron Tammen and Brian Efird: “The War Presidency: Options Taken and Lost”, International Studies Association Meetings, Montreal, Canada, published February 2004, available here: http://citation.allacademic.com//meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/0/7/4/2/7/pages74272/p74272-1.php
    ________________________________________

    Subject: RE: CONT Hearing May 25, 2011
    Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 13:41:38 +0200
    From: [email protected]
    To: karenhudes
    Dear Karen,
    thank you very much for your understanding.
    What do you mean by “discharge my obligation” to US Congress. I would understand that you are not directly accountable to the US Congress but you see this as your moral and maybe professional obligation?
    Best regards,
    Christoph

    ________________________________________
    From: Karen Hudes
    Sent: 16 May 2011 12:45
    To: NERLICH Christoph
    Subject: RE: CONT Hearing May 25, 2011
    Dear Mr. Nerlich,

    Thank you for circulating the full version of the written contribution to the Members of Parliament. I also appreciate your informing me that you have given this document to the World Bank. I had provided an earlier version of the chronology to the World Bank and possess documentation to substantiate all of the matters mentioned in the chronology.

    I would also like to inform you that yesterday I hand delivered my full written contribution to a senior official in the US Congress in order to discharge my obligation as a legal officer of the World Bank to disclose these breaches in the World Bank’s charter to its oversight agencies.

    I look forward to the hearing next week and hope that it will be possible to meet you.

    Sincerely,
    Karen
    Law Offices of Karen Hudes

    ________________________________________
    Subject: RE: CONT Hearing May 25, 2011-part 2
    Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 11:57:38 +0200
    From: [email protected]
    To: karenhudes
    CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
    Dear Karen,
    thank you for sending the slightly revised versions. I would like to inform you about the recommendation of the Parliament’s Legal Service which we will follow with regard to publishing your written contribution:
    – All Members of the European Parliament attending the hearing will receive a full version of your written contribution.
    – The version published (both printed version and version put on the internet) will need to be redacted. The mentioning of Mr. Scott Bloch on page 7 of part 1 will need to be blackened. Part 2 will be published in full. Part 3 will not be published at all.
    I thank you very much in advance for your understanding. Please be assured that we were aiming to strike an appropriate balance between the public interest in transparency on the one side and any privacy interest of the persons concerned on the other. Furthermore, we were advised by our Legal Service that we should inform the World Bank about the material to be used at the hearing.
    We look forward to an interesting hearing on whistleblowing next week. Please do not hesitate to contact me in case of any question.
    Best regards,
    Christoph
    Christoph NERLICH
    European Parliament
    Committee on Budgetary Control
    RMD 02J040- Rue Wiertz 60 – 1047 Brussels
    Tel. +322 283 26 35- Fax +322 284 49 07
    [email protected]

  • I’m disappointed by my choices, but I’m not voting for Mussolini. I have no love for Hillary, but I believe very strongly that we can survive a crook president better than we can survive a sociopathic elementary school level crook and repeatedly bankrupt bullying liar who cheats on his wives. Yes, I am registered, but my state is already very much decided so I plan to cast a protest vote.

  • The quality of your testimony is roughly the quality of my bowel movements before I flush them.

  • KarenHudes

    You have ignored the comment that you are replying to. That is the explanation.

  • KarenHudes

    No, Ken. There are many other comments here about the way you are conducting yourself.

  • I don’t really have time to sift through a hundred paragraphs of sovereign citizen nonsense to get the answer to a single question.

  • KarenHudes

    One would still expect that the Congress would show some degree of interest in the middle and lower income voters under your theory.

  • Wait, are you admitting that those are all pictures of the same person, i.e., me?

  • You are arguing with me, therefore you are a paid shill for the NLA. QED.

  • Usunder

    We better wake up Obama is stealing America and a lot of the American people are blindly helping him take it one stone at a time. Use our constitutional rights get this man out of office now don’t wait tell 2017 or we may not have a 2017 year.

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    Lying as usual Lowell. The Supreme Court has very clearly ruled against religious objections to vaccination as enjoying constitutional protections. See Jacobsen vs Massachusetts. 1905.

    See

    the Constitution of the United States does not import an absolute right in each person to be at all times, and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint, nor is it an element in such liberty that one person, or a minority of persons residing in any community and enjoying the benefits of its local government, should have power to dominate the majority when supported in their action by the authority of the State.

    It is within the police power of a State to enact a compulsory vaccination law, and it is for the legislature, and not for the courts, to determine

    At https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/197/11/case.html

    As the saying goes “that will leave a mark.”

  • KarenHudes

    Ken, it is the way that you argue. Accusing people of being “conspiracy theorists” is a dead give-away. Then also when you ignored what was said before. (I had to remind you about the dead link on the second secret constitution five times
    http://3rddog.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/0/7/11073361/us-constitutionstudy%5B1%5D.pdf )
    Not dealing with substantive points. (Benjamin Franklin’s negotiation of the Revolutionary War debts that fell due in 1871 just when the second secret constitution was foisted on the US and there was no ratification) Not conceding when a point is made.

  • KarenHudes

    My reply keeps on getting erased. It was: Why was my comment erased? I will make it again. It is the way that you argue, Ken. Accusing me of being a “conspiracy theorist” is a dead give-away. The CIA invented the term “conspiracy theorist” Then ignoring the comments that were made. I had to repeat five times that the link for the second, secret constitution was broken
    http://3rddog.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/0/7/11073361/us-constitutionstudy%5B1%5D.pdf and that it went into effect without ratification after Benjamin Franklin negotiated the Revolutionary War debts to fall due in 1871 https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Revolutionary+War+Debt.pdf

  • KarenHudes

    Why was my comment erased? I will make it again. It is the way that you argue, Ken. Accusing me of being a “conspiracy theorist” is a dead give-away. The CIA invented the term “conspiracy theorist” Then ignoring the comments that were made. I had to repeat five times that the link for the second, secret constitution was broken
    http://3rddog.weebly.com/uploads/1/1/0/7/11073361/us-constitutionstudy%5B1%5D.pdf and that it went into effect without ratification after Benjamin Franklin negotiated the Revolutionary War debts to fall due in 1871 https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Revolutionary+War+Debt.pdf

  • Ron Roy

    Every MD supports vaccinations? You lying piece of s_ _ t. Your discredited mentor would be proud. Hey you’re new. Which two shills bred you? http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/medical-doctors-opposed-to-forced-vaccinations-should-their-views-be-silenced/

  • Ron Roy

    think critically. Go back to school, learn statistics and critical thinking, and maybe then we can talk. No when you learn to speak without repeating every sound bite ( 5 of them in your statement )you copy from your shill mentors we can talk.

  • KarenHudes

    The disclosures of George Mercier, former clerk of the New York federal courts, is not “sovereign citizen nonsense”. You’ll note how the powers-that-were have broken the link to the first document:

    http://www.state-citizen.org/Mercier%20-%20Invisible%20Contracts%20%28law%20as%20legalized%20slavery%29%281984%29.pdf

    http://freedom-school.com/invisible-contracts.pdf

    http://www.constitution.org/mercier/incon.htm

  • Diane H

    I think we can conclude that Ken is not in pursuit of the truth. Thank you for your full explanation, Karen.

  • KarenHudes

    You are welcome. I have tweeted some additional comments here: https://s3.amazonaws.com/khudes/Twitter7.24.16.1.pdf

  • KarenHudes

    not true. see this link about the difference between the administrative courts foisted on us by the bankers, and the courts we are supposed to have under Article III of the Constitution of 1789. (I made this comment elsewhere, but Ken S. seems to have a selective memory): https://www.1215.org/lawnotes/work-in-progress/article-iii-court-by-ed-rivera.pdf

  • AutismDadd

    So there are piles of B.S. there?

  • I don’t know why anything was erased. I’m not a mod. “Conspiracy theory” is a household term, whether it was invented by the CIA or not. The alleged secret constitution you showed me is the constitution of 1789 with made-up changes that you haven’t shown are in force.

  • That’s absolutely sovereign citizen nonsense.

  • Rivera’s paper (hosted on a sovereign citizen website) makes one very big, very false claim. He claims that the federal judiciary ONLY has jurisdiction in federal territories, ignoring the long list of other cases that federal courts can hear and decide.

  • At Montero’s? Nah, there’s a neat crowd and karaoke three nights a week.

  • KarenHudes

    Ken, you have not shown any evidence. The documentary evidence which I have provided you are unable to counter with disparaging comments. Where is evidence for anything you cite? You don’t have any. You are discredited, and are simply undermining yourself further.

  • What evidence are you looking for? I’m appraising the quality of the stuff you show me, like a secret constitution bearing the signatures of men dead long before it’s supposed adoption. That’s after also citing sources which firmly claim that the DC Organic Act of 1871 is the secret constitution, and before citing the legal opinions of a rube who couldn’t be bothered to actually read Article III which are hosted on a sovereign citizen website.

  • David

    in your estimation, what percentage of MD do not support vaccinations?

  • David

    That is such a lie Ron Roy. That article is first of all on health impact news which never had any references and lies about everything.
    The author is just pulling this out of the sky. There is no reference to any study or survey etc. How can you be so blind to believe these articles

  • kfunk937

    Ken, have you seen this, or this? Interesting reading. Sad, really.

  • Thomas Mohr

    You yourself admitted of not having a higher education. You have demonstrated that you can not do correct literature research. You have demonstrated to be incapable of distinguishing between serious and not serious sceintific ressources, You can’t even spell “miseducated” correctly. I.o.W. you are in no position to talk about science. Additionally your problem is the same as with all incompetent people. They are too incompetent to see their own incompetency, because in order to do so they would have to have exactly the knowledge they lack.

  • The interest is in votes, not necessarily the interests of middle and lower income people. If they can be convinced to vote for representatives who vote against their interests, then their actual interests are irrelevant. Wealthy people have a lot more resources to use in influencing elections (donations, advertising, access to employees, &c.) than non-wealthy people. It doesn’t take a H. capensis to see that.

  • Oh, I didn’t see this comment since it wasn’t a reply to me. I don’t believe that concentration of political power is harmless. I also don’t believe that it’s orchestrated by non-humans who somehow unilaterally replaced the constitution.

  • kfunk937

    Ms Hudes, all of your comments are posting. It may be that ones with links are automatically delayed for moderator review to prevent spam or malicious links. It’s a very common practice for disqus mods. Also, depending on how you are viewing comments, disqus sorting may display out of order.

    OTOH, immediately jumping to the conclusion that it’s about you is kind of loopy, and reflects poorly on your technical acumen and, indeed, your positions.

  • KarenHudes

    you are a broken record. the second secret constitution went into effect through bankruptcy law scam by the bankers THIS IS THE SIXTH TIME I HAVE MADE THIS POINT ON THE SAME WEBSITE. no signature no ratification. THE DC ORGANIC ACT OF 1871 IS NOT THE SECRET CONSTITUTION. YOU ARE SIMPLY CALLING NAMES. WHAT EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT THE EVIDENCE I SHOW IS INCORRECT NADA, ZIP YOU ARE ALREADY CALLED OUT BY MANY, MANY OTHERS WHO SEE WHAT I HAVE POSTED AND WHAT YOU HAVE POSTED.

  • KarenHudes

    The first two sentences are illogical and meaningless. The third sentence is a truism and has nothing to say about what Gilens and Page reported, which was that the constituents’ opinions are irrelevant to Congress. The last sentence is a dig, meant to discredit me for a theory that I have renounced because I had no proof. Dr. Edward Spencer, who told me about that theory, has joined with the exopolitics lynching team, including Lambremont Webre.

  • KarenHudes

    No, Vactruth has not posted all of my comments. You are not in a position to judge which comments are posting. What happened yesterday with a comment detailing my record of whistleblowing about the unresolved corruption in the very heart of the international financial system: I tweeted a screenshot that Vactruth NEVER POSTED. If they post it today, it is still too late. So you are now the one hanging out there, my dear. I do not intend to reply to any more of your comments. You are already outed, my dear as someone who has an axe to grind.

  • You’re making an extraordinary claim. You’re claiming that the constitution of 1789 is no longer in effect and has been replaced by people with no authority to do so by a process that has no constitutional validity. You haven’t shown me any verifiable act that is consistent with the supposed secret constitution and not the constitution of 1789. I’m asking for your answer in your words, not a link salad leading to a dozen enormous, unrelated screeds. Demonstrate to me that the supposed constitution of 1871 is in force. I need something I can verify, like an act of Congress or a judicial decision, that isn’t just on your own website, twitter, or somebody else’s sovereign citizen website.

  • kfunk937

    Three nearly identical comments (regarding Ken’s tone, as near as I can tell), two of which say “My comment was deleted” have been posted. The timestamps show that the 2nd was posted approximately 10 minutes after the first, and the 3rd, about an hour later. It was those comments in main to which I referred.

    I doubt anyone cares about your tweets, any more than I do (although I have seen them–more tone trolling and CT).

    Have a nice day.

  • KarenHudes

    What is extraordinary is your sheer effronery. I have told you that the interest on the Revolutionary War Debt mounted up and could not be repaid, and the bankers thought that gave them the right to suspend the Constitution of 1789. Because we were accepting the paper money that it cost them nothing to print, they could use that to bribe Congress. So Congress went along with the scam. And now the country debt is so big that the bankers think they can crash our whole country with their paper. In the meanwhile, I am working with the 188 Ministers of Finance who control the world’s gold. DOES THIS DO IT FOR YOU, KENNY OLD BOY?

  • What’s illogical about them? Elected officials make laws and policies. Elections are won on the basis of votes. Voters can be influenced, and people with more power and resources can influence a lot of votes. This influence can and does induce people to vote against their own interests and to forgive or even support officials who consistently harm them. It doesn’t help that the United States in particular have a deeply-entrenched two party system where voters will excuse many harmful decisions of their own party because they consider the only viable alternative party unacceptable. This largely explains how lower and middle class voters don’t get their way. Have Gilens and Page studied any countries with proportional representation?

  • Nope. I still see nothing verifiable, just more self-curated assertions. Can you show me a verifiable action on the federal government’s part that is consistent with the supposed constitution of 1871 and NOT the constitution of 1789? I’m not asking for a dozen AWS or kahudes.net or 1215.org links, I’m asking for you to identify one.

  • KarenHudes

    Nope. Looking at 1,779 policy issues Gilens and Page found that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have “substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy.” Average citizens and mass-based interest groups have “little or no independent influence.”

  • I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. I haven’t said the study is wrong, I’ve just offered my perception of how it could be right despite regular elections. Do you know if Gilens and Page have studied any other countries, or were you answering that with “Nope?”

  • shay simmons

    Exactly.

  • shay simmons

    Lowell conveniently omits that this “complaint” was a letter sent to the FBI by internet con artist and snake oil salesman Mike Adams.

  • shay simmons

    That “complaint” was a letter sent by internet con artist and snake oil salesman Mike Adams. Any evidence that Karmanos or the MI AG are doing anything with it other than tossing it in the circular file?

  • KarenHudes

    The courts as administrative courts rather than Article III courts of equity; this article identifies several; warranties of title to land and other title rather than actual title; no search warrants issued when our mail and other personal conversations are spied on; war is not declared by Congress; all of the illegal Executive Orders; the list is actually endless

  • shay simmons

    I posted an explanation but it’s quite lengthy and evidently is sitting in moderation.Your sources, as David has pointed out, are lacking in any academic credibility and are, in a word, dodgy. Looking at the site with the hilariously inappropriate name of “vacfacts” was enough.

  • Ron Roy

    He obviously suffered severe brain damage on top of an already vaccine damaged brain. Poor guy.Should we humor him?

  • David

    Lowell. Stop it already. Every single refererence is to an anti vax conspiracy website. It means nothing. Anyone can post on the web whatever they feel like–it means nothing
    I can post that half the world are actually green men in human suits and put it on a site called little green men. How is that credible.

  • Ron Roy

    The difference in between me and you is you have tunnel vision and are incapable of believing anything that upsets your preconceived notions. I on the other hand am open minded and I’m not influenced by the MEDICAL MAFIA as so many of you obviously are.

  • The courts as administrative courts rather than Article III courts of equity;

    That’s another assertion. Do you have anything to substantiate it? So far the only corroboration I’ve seen is from a guy who doesn’t understand Article III.

    warranties of title to land and other title rather than actual title;

    I don’t understand what you mean. Are you confusing intangible title rights with physical documents?

    no search warrants issued when our mail and other personal conversations are spied on;

    This has been a thorny issue for the courts. I disagree with some court decisions legitimizing warrantless searches, but Article III courts do have the power to resolve questions of constitutional law. I hope future decisions hold that our privacy rights are more robust than they’ve been held to be so far.

    war is not declared by Congress;

    Yes, they haven’t chosen to declare war in a long time. Instead, they’ve established alternative force authorizations short of war. This isn’t inconsistent with the constitution of 1789.

    all of the illegal Executive Orders;

    Like what?

  • Ron Roy

    You’re beliefs are in the stone age compared to the truth.

  • Ron Roy

    Now now joe calm down you know what the doctor said about your heart.

  • KarenHudes

    I am not going to write a dissertation when you are not serious. How do you deal with the fact that Congress has not convened an Article V Convention when more than 2/3 of the state legislatures have requested amendments?Your comment is as threadbare as an old sheet.

  • I don’t want a dissertation. You keep giving me dense, rambling dissertations when all I want is an example of some event, some specific official act which is consistent with your purported secret constitution and which is NOT consistent with the constitution of 1789. Please don’t write a dissertation! One paragraph is more than enough if it actually contains some facts that can be backed up.

  • Ron Roy

    You know your employers ( the MEDICAL MAFIA ) control all these alphabet soup government agencies and they will say anything to keep their cash flow coming.

  • KarenHudes

    You forgot to answer this part of my previous comment: How do you deal with the fact that Congress has not convened an Article V Convention when more than 2/3 of the state legislatures have requested amendments?

  • At the same time? When?

  • KarenHudes

    If you are not aware of what is going on with Article V, I suggest you contact Bill Walker at Friends of Article V. The short answer is that each and every member of Congress has ignored Article V of the Constitution of 1789 and is liable for failing to respect the Constitution of 1789.

  • Thomas Mohr

    The difference between you and me is an advanced university degree in biotechnology, 20+ years experience in interpreting scientific studies plus actually doing research. You can hop in circles like Rumpelstiltskin and cry “MEDICAL MAFIA” as much as you want, it does not change the demonstrated incompetency one little bit.

  • shay simmons

    Confirmation bias with a soupҫon of Dunning Kruger.

  • David

    To reiterate what just the facts says
    Real studies from real sources, not hearsay from quacks at anti vax sites.
    here is why I know that It has been shown, conclusively, using
    millions of vaccinated and unvaccinated study subjects, that vaccines
    do not cause autism.

    –Jain et al. (2015) 95,000 children included in the JAMA study
    showing no connection between autism and vaccines.
    –In 1991, Howson et al. reviewed hundreds of vaccine safety studies,
    and it was repeatedly shown that vaccines didn’t cause autism
    –Taylor et al. (1999) studied 498 autistic children in UK showing no
    difference in autism rates or age at ASD development based on
    vaccination
    –Madsen et al. (2002) studied 500,000 children in Denmark showing no
    difference in autism rates or age at ASD development
    –Hviid et al. (2003) studied 450,000 children in Denmark showing no
    difference in autism based on thimerosol in vaccines
    –Miller et al. (2004) studied 100,000 children in the UK and and
    found no difference in autism and several other disorders based on
    thimerosol in vaccines
    –DeStefano (2004) studied 2,500 children in the US showing no
    difference in autism rates based on vaccination
    –Honda et al. (2005) studied 300,000 people in Japan showing no
    difference in autism rates based on vaccination
    –Fombonne et al. (2006) studied 28,000 children in Canada showing no
    difference in autism rates and other developmental disorders based on
    vaccination
    –Robinson et al. (2010) studied autism rates among the Amish, which
    anti-vaxxers pretend don’t exist
    –Kuwaik et al. (2014) studied autism rates among those who had older
    siblings with autism, showing no difference based on vaccination even
    with genetic predispositions to autism

  • Ron Roy

    All the MDs in the world? NO their are some who are brave and ethical enough to tell the truth:Nicola Antonucci, MD
    Isaac Golden, ND
    Amber Passini, MD

    David Ayoub, MD
    Gary Goldman, PhD
    Ronald Peters, MD, MPH

    Nancy Turner Banks, MD
    Garry Gordon, MD, DO, MD(H)
    Jean Pilette, MD

    Timur Baruti, MD
    Doug Graham, DC
    Pat Rattigan, ND

    Danny Beard, DC
    Boyd Haley, PhD
    Zoltan Rona, MD, MSc

    Françoise Berthoud, MD
    Gayl Hamilton, MD
    Chaim Rosenthal, MD

    Russell Blaylock, MD
    Linda Hegstrand, MD, PhD
    Robert Rowen, MD

    Fred Bloem, MD
    James Howenstine, MD
    Máximo Sandín, PhD

    Laura Bridgman, FNP, ND
    Suzanne Humphries, MD
    Len Saputo, MD

    Kelly Brogan, MD
    Belén Igual Diaz, MD
    Michael Schachter, MD

    Sarah Buckley, MD
    Philip Incao, MD
    Viera Scheibner, PhD

    Rashid Buttar, DO
    Joyce Johnson, ND
    Penelope Shar, MD

    Harold Buttram, MD
    A. Majid Katme, MBBCh, DPM
    Bruce Shelton, MD, MD(H)

    Lisa Cantrell, RN
    Tedd Koren, DC
    Debbi Silverman, MD

    Lua Català Ferrer, MD
    Alexander Kotok, MD, PhD
    Kenneth “KP” Stoller, MD

    Jennifer Craig, PhD, BSN, MA
    Eneko Landaburu, MD
    Terri Su, MD

    Robert Davidson, MD, PhD
    Luc Lemaire, DC
    Didier Tarte, MD

    Ana de Leo, MD
    Janet Levatin, MD
    Leigh Ann Tatnall, RN

    Carlos de Quero Kops, MD
    Thomas Levy, MD, JD
    Adiel Tel-Oren, MD, DC

    Carolyn Dean, MD, ND
    Stephen L’Hommedieu, DC
    Sherri Tenpenny, DO

    Mayer Eisenstein, MD, JD, MPH
    Paul Maher, MD, MPH
    Renee Tocco, DC

    Todd M. Elsner, DC
    Andrew Maniotis, PhD
    Demetra Vagias, MD, ND

    Jorge Esteves, MD
    Steve Marini, PhD, DC
    Franco Verzella, MD

    Edward “Ted” Fogarty, MD
    Juan Manuel Martínez Méndez, MD
    Julian Whitaker, MD

    Jack Forbush, DO
    Sue McIntosh, MD
    Ronald Whitmont, MD

    Milani Gabriele, CRNA, RN
    Richard Moskowitz, MD
    Betty Wood, MD

    Sheila Gibson, MD, BSc
    Sheri Nakken, RN, MA
    Eduardo Ángel Yahbes, MD

    Mike Godfrey, MBBS
    Christiane Northrup, MD

    file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Ron%20Roy/My%20Documents/Downloads/UCLA%20Pediatrician%20Resigns%20Because%20%E2%80%98American%20Association%20of%20Pediatrics%20Knows%20Vaccines%20Cause%20Autism%E2%80%99%20_%20VICTORY%20OVER%20CANCER.htm

  • Ron Roy

    ”I spent years training in how to evaluate intel sources.” If it was at the governments expense they wasted our tax dollars.

  • Ooooh, this is good. Thank you for the recommendation! So far I’m not convinced that certain positions held by the FOAVC are correct, but they’ve got very interesting information on their site, and I’m going to have to spend some time going over this. I love how much information they provide about each application — one of my pet peeves in reporting is when a significant or controversial bill is talked about, but nobody gives me the one piece of information I want most of all: THE @&$%ING BILL NUMBER!

  • Ron Roy

    Like I said tunnel vision.

  • David

    As I said 99.99 percent of the world MD. You just listed the .01%

  • David

    That is really ironic coming from you who idolizes the likes of rife who literally was in the Stone Age compared to today’s technology. Like usual you are laughable

  • shay simmons

    Speaking of dodgy sources… hi, Ron.

  • Jonathan Graham

    Thanks for that peek into your hard drive directory structure there Ron.

  • Jonathan Graham

    I had the good fortune of never having been miss educate by attending schools of higher learning.

    Apparently you also missed a few spelling lessons too.

    that has been more than sufficient to carry me through life.

    This is a good example of moving the goalposts. Being sufficiently educated to construct a persuasive argument about medical science is a much higher bar than what is required to simply get through life. Even today people – like yourself – can get through life being entirely ignorant of science.

  • AutismDadd

    Ew! Please don’t tell me you get up and make a huge ass of yourself, even more than usual.

  • It’s all about having fun! It really doesn’t matter if you’re good or bad — everybody’s there to have a good time, no matter who sings! :-D

  • joe

    That’s what I said 39 UP TO AGE 5 FURTHER 10 TO AGE 6 making total of 49 at age six.

  • joe

    “Doesn’t matter when I responded to it”:—- YES it does because when I SAID IT WAS 9HOURS YOU CALLED ME A LIAR then I proved you wrong LIAR! did not delete any post,perhaps moderator flagged.

  • joe

    “However the obvious brain and vaccine injury risk of the MMR vaccine has proven to be much higher”– THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE LIE.supply a credible link to back that up.not an anti vaxx site.and not something 100 years old.

  • joe

    Ken,from what I see on the news here regarding Trump.All I can say is God help the USA if Trump gets elected.Just my 2 cents worth.

  • In your delusional mind the only links you accept are the pro-vaccine links; so much for your comprehension of what is actually credible. You need to the the independent research and spend the 100’s and 100’s of hours that I have researching parental accounts of the MMR vaccines injuries that have occurred, and with resulting autism. It is not just one vaccine that is causing vaccine injury and autism, you in denial …fool. It is a multitude of vaccine toxicity and contamination issues, and to include the issue of live vaccines, such as the MMR. By the time that you have any comprehension of all this and as it exists, hell will have already long froze over. Its never going to happen.

    Research – Callous Disregard
    http://www.callous-disregard.com/research.htm

    Autism Is A Medical Problem And There Is Proven, Effective
    Medical Treatment – Dr. Stoller, MD (former Pediatrician at the American Acedemy of Pediatrics, and he quit)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnD8Il2PS9E

    Biomedical Treatment For Autism
    Video interviews with parents, medical professionals, and researchers
    http://www.biomedicaltreatmentforautism.com/

    Biomedical Treatment in Autism (ASD)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/biomedical-treatment-in-autism-asd.html

    Research Article
    The Severity of Autism Is Associated with Toxic Metal Body Burden and Red Blood Cell Glutathione Levels

    Abstract

    This study investigated the relationship of children’s autism symptoms with their toxic metal body burden and red blood cell (RBC) glutathione levels. In children ages 3–8 years, the severity of autism was assessed using four tools: ADOS, PDD-BI, ATEC, and SAS. Toxic metal body burden was assessed by measuring urinary excretion of toxic metals, both before and after oral dimercaptosuccinic acid (DMSA). Multiple positive correlations were found between the severity of autism and the urinary excretion of toxic metals. Variations in the severity of autism measurements could be explained, in part, by regression analyses of urinary excretion of toxic metals before and after DMSA and the level of RBC glutathione (adjusted of 0.22–0.45, in all cases). This study demonstrates a significant positive association between the severity of autism and the relative body burden of toxic metals.

    http://www.hindawi.com/journals/jt/2009/532640/ (full study)

    Autism Spectrum Disorders and Aluminum Vaccine Adjuvants
    Lucija Tomljenovic, Russell L. Blaylock, Christopher A. Shaw

    Abstract
    Impaired brain function, excessive inflammation, and autoimmune manifestations are common in autism. Aluminum (Al), the most commonly used vaccine adjuvant, is a demonstrated neurotoxin and a strong immune stimulator. Hence, adjuvant Al has the necessary properties to induce neuroimmune disorders. Because peripheral immune stimuli in the postnatal period can compromise brain development and cause permanent neurological impairments, the possibility that such outcomes could also occur with administration of Al vaccine adjuvants needs to be considered. In regard to the risk of adjuvant toxicity in children, the following should be noted: (i) children should not be viewed as “small adults” as their unique physiology makes them more vulnerable to toxic insults; (ii) in adult humans Al adjuvants can cause a variety of serious autoimmune and inflammatory conditions including those affecting the brain, yet children are routinely exposed to much higher amounts of Al from vaccines than adults; (iii) compelling evidence has underscored the tight connection between the development of the immune system and that of the brain. Thus, it appears plausible that disruptions of critical events in immune development may also play a role in the establishment of neurobehavioral disorders; (iv) the same immune system components that play key roles in brain development appear to be targeted for impairment by Al adjuvants. In summary, research data suggests that vaccines containing Al may be a contributing etiological factor in the increasing incidence of autism.

    http://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007%2F978-1-4614-4788-7_89

    And what do multiple vaccines combined with aluminum adjuvants do? They over-activate the brains microglia cells and with resulting long term levels of brain inflammation. The studies and the data are all there on the page that I gave you

    Journal of American Nutraceutical Association 6: 21-35, 2003.
    Interaction of Cytokines, Excitotoxins, and Reactive Nitrogen and Oxygen Species in Autism Spectrum Disorders, Russell Blaylock, MD* Medical Director, Advanced Nutritional Concepts Ridgeland, Mississippi

    ABSTRACT

    There is growing and compelling evidence that excessive peripheral as well as central immune activation of brain microglia can result in alterations in brain growth and connectivity during rapid brain growth, the so-called “brain growth spurt.” A considerable amount of evidence, presented in this paper, demonstrates the deleterious effects of immune factors, such as cytokines, chemokines, and excitotoxins, when present in excess. The interaction between excitotoxicity, ROS and RNS injury and immune dysfunction is discussed. It is concluded that excessive activation of the brain’s immune system during critical growth periods can occur when vaccines are given as combination vaccines, using schedules that are too close together or by the use of certain live viruses in the vaccines.

    http://www.nutrimedical.com/news.jhtml?method=view&news.id=1084

  • joe

    I posed the question to Ron, I did not realize you were his mouthpiece. that being the case YOU answer the question—Is there 17 deaths per hour from vaccination?

  • Give it up, what was stated to you was correct.

    Take some time and actually review something worth while.

    Holistic Doctors Murdered: The Inside Story on GcMAF with David Noakes
    https://www.mixcloud.com/lostartsradio/lost-arts-radio-host-richard-sacks-interviews-david-noakes-81415/

    About GcMAF, (macrophage stimulating factor), in relation to human health
    http://www.vacfacts.info/about-gcmaf-macrophage-stimulating-factor-in-relation-to-human-health.html

    Do you think it sis long past time for you to wake up to reality, yet? Are you still drunk, like you were when you posted, yesterday?

  • joe

    How many times do I have to to tell you,I an not interested in your anti vaxx sites,perhaps you should give the booze a rest.

  • LOL…go back and read what you actually stated. I copied and pasted it to you, twice. You never said that at all, and you know that when realized that you are wrong, that you simply changed and reinvented your posting story Your original post is copied for you, directly above your current post.

  • And again, what did they study in those so called and claimed to larger epidemiological, (population based), vaccine safety studies? In fact they only studied one single vaccine, the MMR; and one single vaccine ingredient, Thimerosal. None of the larger epidemiological studies compared vaccinated to entirely un-vaccinated. None of the studies looked at the safety profile of the entire CDC vaccine schedule. None of those studies as well looked at the safety profile of giving from 5 to up to 9 vaccines or more to and infant or small child, in a single day and office visit.

    Every one of the larger MMR, and Thimerosal epidemiolgical studies were clearly COOKED, for the results, period. Found were the use of flawed study designs, use of unreliable data, predetermined outcomes unsupported by the data, and as well major conflicts of interest in the studies funding sources; none of them being independent and nor unbiased.

    If you do not believe me and as to those statements, then all you need to do is read through this thorough and direct analysis of all those studies, and the same ones as you referred to above, David.

    VACCINES AND AUTISM – WHAT DO EPIDEMIOLOGICAL STUDIES REALLY TELL US?

    We have 16 studies already that clearly state that vaccines do not cause autism.”
    — Amy Pisani, Executive Director, Every Child By Two

    “16 studies have shown no causal association between vaccines and autism, and these
    studies carry weight in the scientific industry.”
    — Dr. Nancy Snyderman, NBC Today Show Medical Editor

    “The science is largely complete. Ten epidemiological studies have shown MMR vaccine
    doesn’t cause autism; six have shown thimerosal doesn’t cause autism.”
    — Dr. Paul Offit, “Autism’s False Prophets”

    Read more:
    http://www.rescuepost.com/files/vaccines-and-autism-epidemiology-rebuttal.pdf

  • joe

    You are quoting this Quack David Noakes as a reference .—http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2015/09/28/gcmaf-and-an-unscrupulous-quack-profiled-by-the-bbc/—- this guy is a quack.Listen Lowell You have not provided any credible evidence,you keep posting lies and garbage to me I am going to say to you what i said to Ron,I refuse to play your silly game of twisted lies and i will not answer any of your posts

  • You are directly lying, and not only deceiving yourself, but as well any readers that may read your post. So quite obviously it is you that should stop it, already. There are no only alleged conspiracies in regard to those sources, and as, everything that is there only involves obvious facts, and which are evident beyond any reasonable doubt.

    Regardless of howelong I have been involved in reply posting and now since 2009, it never stops amazing me how sick you people are and as to how you claw, scrap, and clamor and in your demands to stay in to continue in your denial of the vaccine truth.

    How about as well if you take some time and review this information. Should that be concerning?

    Come on, view this below audio interview, and then continue to tell me that is all only just a conspiracy theory?

    Holistic Doctors Murdered: The Inside Story on GcMAF with David Noakes
    https://www.mixcloud.com/lostartsradio/lost-arts-radio-host-richard-sacks-interviews-david-noakes-81415/

    About GcMAF, (macrophage stimulating factor), in relation to human health
    http://www.vacfacts.info/about-gcmaf-macrophage-stimulating-factor-in-relation-to-human-health.html

    Autism Is A Medical Problem And There Is Proven, Effective
    Medical Treatment – Dr. Stoller, MD (former Pediatrician at the American Acedemy of Pediatrics, and he quit)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnD8Il2PS9E

    Biomedical Treatment For Autism
    Video interviews with parents, medical professionals, and researchers
    http://www.biomedicaltreatmentforautism.com/

    Research Article
    The Severity of Autism Is Associated with Toxic Metal Body Burden and Red Blood Cell Glutathione Levels

    Abstract

    This study investigated the relationship of children’s autism symptoms with their toxic metal body burden and red blood cell (RBC) glutathione levels. In children ages 3–8 years, the severity of autism was assessed using four tools: ADOS, PDD-BI, ATEC, and SAS. Toxic metal body burden was assessed by measuring urinary excretion of toxic metals, both before and after oral dimercaptosuccinic acid (DMSA). Multiple positive correlations were found between the severity of autism and the urinary excretion of toxic metals. Variations in the severity of autism measurements could be explained, in part, by regression analyses of urinary excretion of toxic metals before and after DMSA and the level of RBC glutathione (adjusted of 0.22–0.45, in all cases). This study demonstrates a significant positive association between the severity of autism and the relative body burden of toxic metals.

    http://www.hindawi.com/journals/jt/2009/532640/ (full study)

    Autism Spectrum Disorders and Aluminum Vaccine Adjuvants
    Lucija Tomljenovic, Russell L. Blaylock, Christopher A. Shaw

    Abstract
    Impaired brain function, excessive inflammation, and autoimmune manifestations are common in autism. Aluminum (Al), the most commonly used vaccine adjuvant, is a demonstrated neurotoxin and a strong immune stimulator. Hence, adjuvant Al has the necessary properties to induce neuroimmune disorders. Because peripheral immune stimuli in the postnatal period can compromise brain development and cause permanent neurological impairments, the possibility that such outcomes could also occur with administration of Al vaccine adjuvants needs to be considered. In regard to the risk of adjuvant toxicity in children, the following should be noted: (i) children should not be viewed as “small adults” as their unique physiology makes them more vulnerable to toxic insults; (ii) in adult humans Al adjuvants can cause a variety of serious autoimmune and inflammatory conditions including those affecting the brain, yet children are routinely exposed to much higher amounts of Al from vaccines than adults; (iii) compelling evidence has underscored the tight connection between the development of the immune system and that of the brain. Thus, it appears plausible that disruptions of critical events in immune development may also play a role in the establishment of neurobehavioral disorders; (iv) the same immune system components that play key roles in brain development appear to be targeted for impairment by Al adjuvants. In summary, research data suggests that vaccines containing Al may be a contributing etiological factor in the increasing incidence of autism.

    http://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007%2F978-1-4614-4788-7_89

    And what do multiple vaccines combined with aluminum adjuvants do? They over-activate the brains microglia cells and with resulting long term levels of brain inflammation. The studies and the data are all there on the page that I gave you

    Journal of American Nutraceutical Association 6: 21-35, 2003.
    Interaction of Cytokines, Excitotoxins, and Reactive Nitrogen and Oxygen Species in Autism Spectrum Disorders, Russell Blaylock, MD* Medical Director, Advanced Nutritional Concepts Ridgeland, Mississippi

    ABSTRACT

    There is growing and compelling evidence that excessive peripheral as well as central immune activation of brain microglia can result in alterations in brain growth and connectivity during rapid brain growth, the so-called “brain growth spurt.” A considerable amount of evidence, presented in this paper, demonstrates the deleterious effects of immune factors, such as cytokines, chemokines, and excitotoxins, when present in excess. The interaction between excitotoxicity, ROS and RNS injury and immune dysfunction is discussed. It is concluded that excessive activation of the brain’s immune system during critical growth periods can occur when vaccines are given as combination vaccines, using schedules that are too close together or by the use of certain live viruses in the vaccines.

    http://www.nutrimedical.com/news.jhtml?method=view&news.id=1084

  • That is called intentional censorship and refusal to debate these issues on a level playing field. The fact is that you the person who remains entirely ignorant of the reality of vaccines. All while having the audacity to claim that you are a purveyor of the science. You aren’t actually, anything but an arrogant and mislead, blowhard.

  • Speaking from past experience in reply posting against you, no one has ever moved the goal posts, more than you. Every post you make is only filled with more blatant, and shameless hypocrisy..

  • You can talk all the BS you want; but the fact is that in your refuse to face the truth and delusional mind, you simply must deny the significance and the validity of that information. Its an easy out for you, and all while you can not and refuse to address any of that information, directly. You will never face the truth.

    Give me you take on this information as well.

    Holistic Doctors Murdered: The Inside Story on GcMAF with David Noakes
    https://www.mixcloud.com/lostartsradio/lost-arts-radio-host-richard-sacks-interviews-david-noakes-81415/

    About GcMAF, (macrophage stimulating factor), in relation to human health
    http://www.vacfacts.info/about-gcmaf-macrophage-stimulating-factor-in-relation-to-human-health.html

    And your doctor is STILL going to tell you that Gardasil is safe and effective. Could this mindless level of vaccine brainwashing even get any worse? Erin Crawford’s HPV vaccine injury and the destruction of her health!!!!! Listen closely. AutismOne

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-pr_1gFKA

    Viral DNA bound to aluminum may mediate HPV vaccination side effects – Sin Hang Lee, MD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzPVqzY8quo

    HPV Vaccine Survivor Recovery Panel
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq-pr_1gFKA

  • This is the same guy Gorski was working with. So you are telling me he is getting away with it, and as to what he has been accused of. And you would tell me that Gorski had no knowledge of it all?

    http://www.medicaldaily.com/how-did-dr-farid-fata-americas-greatest-cancer-fraudster-get-away-it-so-long-341478

  • I told you that I do not care whatsoever about those pictures, and as well that I could care less what they are. The question still remains however, as to why you would have posted them, at all.

  • ;-)

  • So all you can come up with is to throw more unproven and false accusations, All you can come up is more gross exaggerations. That is to be expected, and as you obviously have never actually lived in the world of reality. Perhaps Hillary wont even make it the elections, and/or be able to serve; as Presidents are not allowed to serve, from a prison cell.

    Hillary May End Up In Jail After All – All Thanks To Trey Gowdy
    http://bvanews.com/hillary-may-end-jail-thanks-trey-gowdy/

  • Another dumb, and evasive reply.

  • Billy Briggs

    You think Gorski was working with Fata? Let’s see your evidence.

  • So again, you can not address any of that information directly and nor refute any of it, yourself. In other words you choose to remain clueless, and you simply throw a disinformation filled Gorski article at it.

    Face it, anyone what disagrees with you and the pro-vaccine safe and effective message, is automatically and falsely branded as quack.

    David Gorski, the well-known blogging online character assassin falsely masquerading as a science defender, is clearly NOT an acceptable unbiased source of information. Gorski is actually the REAL, quack.

    Internet Trolls Attack Anyone Resisting Vaccine Party Line

    Excerpted: The more you read, the more you start to realize that there is a growing number of doctors, scientists, nurses, and other health care providers who have serious questions about the current vaccine paradigm favored by the pharmaceutical industry, government agencies, such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Food and Drug Administration (FDA), medical trade groups, and the mainstream media.

    Increasingly, professionals within a wide range of health care and science fields are giving interviews and writing articles and books voicing their concerns about vaccine risks, the misrepresentation of the historical role of vaccines in reducing mortality from infectious diseases, the expanding schedule and number of vaccines mandated, or even the basic mechanism theories behind vaccine science.

    Predictably, every time you give the name of a contrarian doctor or scientist in response to the 99.9% figure, what you tend to get is, “Eh, well, he’s a quack, she’s not credible.” Also, you get referred to blogs such as Science-Based Medicine,1 or Respectful Insolence,2 or the Skeptical Raptor’s Blog.3 They’re often written by or associated with a guy named David Gorski, MD, who also goes by the alias “Orac.” Gorski is a surgical oncologist and an assistant professor of surgery at Wayne State University School of Medicine in Detroit, MI.4

    Should you wish to debunk someone, anyone, who dares to disagree with mainstream thinking on vaccines, all you need do is inform Orac, and the good doctor will gladly oblige by writing up a boorish piece, long on insult and short on science. Orac’s methods are painfully predictable. In one piece earlier this year, he criticized a prominent immunologist5 who had the nerve to write an open letter on vaccine science to state legislators in California about to vote on a bill eliminating personal belief vaccine exemptions. He started out by dismissing the individual’s credentials outright. Orac writes:

    Read more:
    http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2015/11/internet-trolls-attack-anyone-resisting-vaccine-party-line/

    “Science”Blogs: Seed Media’s Aggressive Weed
    Part I: Fertilizer From Pharma
    http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/09/scienceblogs-seed-medias-aggressive-weed.html

  • THAT would be interesting. Would’ve preferred it to happen before the convention, but so it goes.

  • If you are not interested in an honest discussion and in this debate being conducted on a level playing field, and with all information on thee table, and with none of it disallowed; then just leave. You have no place here on these article. If you want to simply do nothing but repeatedly censor and disallow the information put forth, then just leave; as there is no point to you replying on these articles.

    Believe me there is obviously no booze involved here, and as I said, the posts that you made yesterday indeed looked like they were made by either an intoxicated person or a person with a mental handicap. Your posts today are still lacking the use of any common sense. But then, when have you shills ever been anything but hypocritical.

  • shay simmons

    Your citation does not support your claim. Color me surprised.

  • shay simmons

    Argumentum ad YouTube, and a GcMAF supporter. It gets better and better.

  • I will speak to anything that I choose to, here; and regardless of if you like it, or not. In your hypocrisy, you have continually butted in on reply posts yourself, that were not directed to you, many times.

    Again, you have absolutely no way to know how many vaccine related deaths there are per hour, per day, or per year. There exists no master list and record, and as well most all vaccine related deaths are simply denied as to having had anything to do with vaccines. Your question is loaded and irrelevant. Those exact numbers have never been determined; and to my knowledge.

  • So you are admitting that you can not directly address any of that information, and that you refuse to.

    Due to as well your repeated false discreditation, you not only refuse to learn, but you as well intentionally evade and need to address and respond to any vaccine truth information here as well. If you are not here to do that, then there is no point to your being here. The outcome of your reply posting, amounts to only more deliberate distraction and disruption.

  • Thomas Mohr

    Lowell, there is nothing to debate. Scientifically the anti-vaxxer position is akin to a flat-earth model of the world.

  • And again you are lying, and ignoring evidence of reality. Color me surprised.

    In your twisted world, anyone that puts for the truth about vaccines, and/or the big pharma mislead standard medical model, instantly becomes branded with the false claim that they are only an internet con artist and snake oil salesman. Nothing could be further from the truth; and all while you ignore your own real quacksters, within you own pro-vaccine circles.

    Detroit cancer surgeon warning: Watch out for Dr. David Gorski at the Karmanos Cancer Center
    http://www.naturalnews.com/053774_David_Gorski_Karmanos_Cancer_Center_in_Detroit_breast_surgery.html

    Understanding the Gorski – Fata Connection

    If you go on the website for Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Institute, you will find a page (under physicians and details) dedicated to one Dr. David Gorski, aka “ORAC” – who prides himself on his own blog as being a character based on an old British sci-fi (science fiction) television show and named after a computer light-box who speaks on pseudo-scientific religion, yet somehow he’s on the breast cancer multidisciplinary team at a major cancer institute that brags about their surgery successes. David Gorski’s financial ties to Big Pharma run deep, and does his connection to the nefarious and now infamous criminal Farid Fata. Remember, before he plead guilty to fraud, Fata presided over MICHIGAN’S LARGEST PRIVATE CANCER PRACTICE – the Barbara Ann Karmonos Center–where Gorski works right now. Fata’s licenses have been revoked of course. Could the ORAC Gorski take over and become the next Fata? After all, Fata was working in his fictional world where nearly all of his patients have deadly cancer and need experimental and costly and deadly drugs until they die, which is often sooner than later. This just may be the “respectful insolence” of which Gorski blogs. Will a cancer “vaccine” manufactured by Big Pharma and genetically modified and patented by Gorski be his next sci-fi invention to be tried out on thousands of US innocents? Maybe he’ll call it the cure for autism. There’s one way to find out. Investigate the propagandist for fraud.

    http://www.truthwiki.org/karmanos-cancer-center-kcc/

  • Detroit cancer surgeon warning: Watch out for Dr. David Gorski at the Karmanos Cancer Center
    http://www.naturalnews.com/053774_David_Gorski_Karmanos_Cancer_Center_in_Detroit_breast_surgery.html#ixzz4FOeJkVks

    Karmanos Cancer Center (KCC)

    Fata operated a HUGE private clinic at Crittenton Hospital Cancer Center

    Most oncologists in America spend somewhere between $1.5 and $2 million a year on drugs for a staff of three doctors. How much did the nefarious Fata spend purchasing drugs to supply his empire made up with his own in-house pharmacy, diagnostics and private radiation treatment center? –Just a cool $45 million, according to a 2015 report on oncology trends. He scheduled 50 or more patients PER DAY and handed them off to unlicensed doctors and then he would step into the room at the end of each visit for five minutes and sling his grand opinion of the chemical and radiation treatments he “recommended” to just about everyone. In fact, when an oncologist or urologist owns his own radiation equipment, the rate of “recommendation” to use it is extremely high. This is a statistical fact. Fata usually pushed for LONG TERM treatments in order to use up his drug supply faster. That’s where the kickbacks and merciless profiteering came into play–patient consumption of expensive, experimental drugs that worsen cancer and even create new cancers–no matter the patient’s age, health, financial state, gender, race, socioeconomic status.

    Understanding the Gorski – Fata Connection

    If you go on the website for Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Institute, you will find a page (under physicians and details) dedicated to one Dr. David Gorski, aka “ORAC” – who prides himself on his own blog as being a character based on an old British sci-fi (science fiction) television show and named after a computer light-box who speaks on pseudo-scientific religion, yet somehow he’s on the breast cancer multidisciplinary team at a major cancer institute that brags about their surgery successes. David Gorski’s financial ties to Big Pharma run deep, and does his connection to the nefarious and now infamous criminal Farid Fata. Remember, before he plead guilty to fraud, Fata presided over MICHIGAN’S LARGEST PRIVATE CANCER PRACTICE – the Barbara Ann Karmonos Center–where Gorski works right now. Fata’s licenses have been revoked of course. Could the ORAC Gorski take over and become the next Fata? After all, Fata was working in his fictional world where nearly all of his patients have deadly cancer and need experimental and costly and deadly drugs until they die, which is often sooner than later. This just may be the “respectful insolence” of which Gorski blogs. Will a cancer “vaccine” manufactured by Big Pharma and genetically modified and patented by Gorski be his next sci-fi invention to be tried out on thousands of US innocents? Maybe he’ll call it the cure for autism. There’s one way to find out. Investigate the propagandist for fraud.

    Read more:
    http://www.truthwiki.org/karmanos-cancer-center-kcc/

  • Only in your brainwashed and mislead mind. Vaccines continue to do more harm than good, and far more harm to human health than they have ever done. When will it be enough? When there are 100 doses of 25 vaccines by the age of 6? That is what you can not in your mind ever learn anything new, and simply because you insist on claiming the debate to be closed.

  • Who is lying? You are not even responding to a specific post here, and you just come right in here at the top and claim that I am lying? About what?

    God Does Not Support Vaccines
    http://www.livingwhole.org/god-does-not-support-vaccines/

    INDESCRIBABLY DISGUSTING VACCINE INGREDIENTS

    SO WHAT ABOUT THE FLY IN OUR SOUP?

    It may not do any harm at all, especially if it has been well heated in the soup!

    However, all injected substances including insect fragments bypass the body’s intricate defense mechanism. The same substances which are harmless when ingested are shown to be extremely detrimental to health when injected. This is learned by medical students and others, but many doctors, health authorities and other vaccine promoters appear to ignore this basic fact.

    Read more:
    http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/2012/01/indescribably-disgusting-vaccine.html

    RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION

    This letter is to serve as notification that ____________________________ and ___________________________, the parents of __________________________, born __________, ___, 20___, are exercising our right to a religious waiver on all future childhood vaccinations because we find them to be in extreme violations of our personal religious beliefs.

    The following are ways in which these violations manifest themselves in the vaccinations recommended by the Center for Disease Control.

    The use of cells, cellular debris, protein, and DNA from willfully aborted human children found in Adenovirus, Polio, Dtap/Polio/HiB Combo, Hep A, Hep A/Hep B Combo, MMR, MMRV Pro Quad, Rabies, Varicella, and the Shingles vaccines violate the very basic commands found in Exodus 20:13 and Deuteronomy 5:15 which instructs us to not murder. The following ingredients were derived from no fewer than 107 human souls who were sacrificed for social reasons and then used in past and ongoing vaccine research: PER C6, HEK293, WI-38 (RA 27/3), WI-1, WI-2, WI-3, WI-4, WI-5, WI-6, WI-7, WI-8, WI-9, WI-10, WI-11, WI-12, WI-13, WI-14, WI-15, WI-16, WI-17, WI-18, WI-19, WI-20, WI-21, WI-22, WI-23, WI-24, WI-25, WI-26, WI-27, WI-38, WI-44, and MCR-5 plus many other ingredients obtained from human children not required to be listed by FDA guidelines. Supporting vaccinations and vaccination developments is an endorsement of the sacrifice of those and the continuing sacrifice of other human souls.

    Genesis 4:1, 17 and Jeremiah 1:5 demonstrate that the deceased children used in the aforementioned vaccinations were recognized by God as human souls from the point of conception in the same way that we, as parents, recognized our child as a human from the moment we were aware of his/her presence in his/her mother’s wombs.

    Genesis 1:27 – 28, 4:1, 2 Kings 17:17-18, Psalm 22:10-11, 106: 35, 37-38, 113:7-9, 127:3, 139:13-16, Amos 1:13, Matthew 18:1-4, and Matthew 19:13-15 are just a few verses that illustrate the aforementioned children as blessings from God that are valued and loved by him, their Creator, in whose image they were created and that their killing is condemned and causes God’s destructive anger to burn against their murderers and those complicit in those murders.

    Exodus 20:13, Leviticus 18:21 & 20:2-5, Deuteronomy 5:13, 12:30-32, 18:10, 2 Kings 16:3, and Psalm 106:38 illustrate that all child sacrifice is condemned with no exception clauses allowing for the greater good or public exception clauses found anywhere in the sacred scriptures.

    1 Corinthians 6:19-20 and 10:31 remind us that we are to regard our bodies a temples of God’s Holy Spirit and that we are to honor God, our Creator and possessor of our very bodies by not defiling them. Notwithstanding the presence of socially sacrificed human cells and debris in vaccinations, we firmly believe that the presence of neurotoxins, hazardous substances, attenuated viruses, animal cells, foreign DNA, albumin from human blood, carcinogens, and chemical wastes is in strict violation of our imperative to treat our bodies as holy temples of the very Spirit of God.

    Genesis 9:4, Leviticus 17:10-11, 17:14, Deuteronomy 12:23, Acts 15:20 and 29 informs us that blood represents the life force of human and animal species and that human blood was to be kept pure under all circumstances and free from contaminants such as animal cells, parts, and blood.
    We thank you for respectfully adhering to our first amendment rights guaranteed as citizens of the United States of America by her great Constitution and reinforced on a state level by the fourteenth amendment without prejudice.

    Maternal Parent printed name:____________________________________________________

    Maternal Parent signature:_______________________________________________________

    Date signed:___________________

    Paternal Parent printed name:____________________________________________________

    Paternal Parent signature:_______________________________________________________

    Date signed:___________________

    Notary public witness:

    State of _________________________________, ________________________ County

    I,_________________________________, a Notary Public for said County and State, do hereby certify that ____________________________ and _________________________________personally appeared before me this day and acknowledged the due execution of the foregoing instrument.

    Witness my hand and official seal, this the ______ day of ______________, 20 ____.

    Notary
    Signature:_________________________________________

  • Thomas Mohr

    Your reply is a prime example why a discussion with anti-vaxxers is pointless. Apparently you try to argue with a sort of overload of the immune system by the number of shots. Due to improvements in technology these 25 vaccines contain *less* antigens than the schedule 20 years ago and much, much less antigen than a bruise on the knee. I also have seen your sources. A weird mixture of pseudoscience and preliminary studies. You don’t even know how vaccines work, much less how immunology works. Not being able to weed out the bullshit is a prime sign for incompetence.

  • joe

    This is an excerpt from one of your links ,KEYWORD promoting –PSEUDOSCIENCE —-Blaylock has retired
    from neurosurgery and has taken up a career opposing
    science-based medicine and promoting pseudoscience-based
    medicine and supplements that he sells under the label
    Brain Repair Formula I ask for credible links but all I get are bogus links,NO MORE REPLIES TILL YOU SHOW ME A CREDIBLE LINK.

  • Billy Briggs

    Do you ever fact-check Natural News articles, or are they simply gospel to you?

  • Ron Roy

    I’ve always suspected you were interested in hard drives. lol I’m not interested.

  • Ron Roy

    No you said all. So I will post more to add to that 99.99%. Oh and I want proof of that ALL. Citations please. A few more that don’t tow the criminal MEDICAL MAFIA line:1. Mehmet Oz, M.D.; cardiology, wellness; New York, New York.

    2. Mark Hyman, M.D.; nutrition, diet, family health; Lenox, Massachusetts.

    3. Deepak Chopra, M.D.; internal medicine, endocrinology, mind-body connection; Carlsbad, California.

    4. Andrew Weil, M.D.; founder Arizona Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona; integrative medicine; Tucson, Arizona.

    5. Michael Roizen, M.D.; chair of Cleveland Clinic Wellness Institute; preventive medicine; Cleveland, Ohio.

    6. Mimi Guarneri, M.D.; president AIHM, cardiology; La Jolla, California.

    7. Al Sears, M.D.; anti-aging; Royal Palm Beach, Florida.

    8. Russell Blaylock, M.D.; neurosurgeon, nutrition, immunity; Jackson, Mississippi.

    9. Chauncey Crandall, M.D.; preventive cardiology; Palm Beach Gardens, Florida.

    10. Erika Schwartz, M.D.; bioidentical hormones, women’s wellness; New York, New York.

    11. David Brownstein, M.D.; family medicine; West Bloomfield, Michigan.

    12. Arthur Agatston, M.D.; cardiology, weight loss; Miami Beach, Florida.

    13. David Perlmutter, M.D.; neurology, nutrition; Naples, Florida.

    13. Donald Levy, M.D.; nutrition, herbal medicine; Boston, Massachusetts.

    14. Stephen Sinatra, M.D.; cardiology; St. Petersburg, Florida.

    15. Neal Barnard, M.D.; nutrition, wellness; Washington, D.C.

    16. Dean Ornish, M.D.; preventive medicine; Sausalito, California.

    17. Mark Houston, M.D.; vascular aging, hypertension; Nashville, Tennessee.

    18. Gervasio Lamas, M.D.; cardiology, chelation therapy; Miami Beach, Florida.

    19. Joseph E. Pizzorno, N.D.; wellness, natural health; Seattle, Washington.

    20. David Riley, M.D.; social and environmental health; Portland, Oregon.

    21. William Davis, M.D.; cardiologist; Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

    22. Joseph Mercola, DO; osteopathy; Chicago, Illinois.

    23. Brian Berman, M.D., family medicine and pain; Baltimore, Maryland.

    24. Steven Lamm, M.D.; digestive disorders, New York, New York.

    25. Jerry Tennant, M.D.; chronic disease, bio-modular healing; Colleyville, Texas.

    26. William S. Maxfield, M.D.; hyperbaric oxygen therapy; Tampa Bay, Florida.

    27. Jordan Metzl, M.D.; sports medicine; New York, New York.

    28. Randall Paulsen, M.D.; psychiatry, stress reduction; Boston, Massachusetts.

    29. Stanislaw Burzynski, M.D.; innovative cancer therapies; Houston, Texas.

    30. Simon Yu, M.D.; chronic diseases; St. Louis, Missouri.

    31. Sue Decoitiis, M.D.; hormone therapy, weight loss; New York, New York.

    32. David Katz, M.D.; weight loss, chronic disease; Derby, Connecticut.

    33. Pat Salber, M.D.; internal medicine, weight loss; Larkspur, California.

    34. Dietrich Klinghardt, M.D.; chronic pain; Woodinville, Washington.

    35. John Zhang, M.D.; fertility; New York, New York.

    36. Daniel Friedland, M.D.; stress, optimal performance; San Diego, California.

    37. Jacob Teitelbaum, M.D.; disease, chronic fatigue, pain, nutrition; Honolulu, Hawaii

    38. Jason Theodosakis, M.D.; arthritis, Tucson, Arizona.

    39. Jamie Koufman, M.D.; acid reflux, voice disorders; New York, New York.

    40. Fabrizio Mancini, DO; self-healing; Dallas, Texas.

    41. Michael Stanclift, ND; preventative medicine, chronic disease; Carlsbad, California.

    42. JoAnn Manson, M.D.; women’s preventative health; Boston, Massachusetts.

    43. Ray Sahelian, M.D.; herbs, natural health; raysahelian.com.

    44. Victor Sierpina, M.D.; mind-body medicine, digestive health; Galveston, Texas.

    45. Michael Fenster, M.D.; interventional cardiology; Tampa, Florida.

    46. Roy Elam, M.D.; pain; Nashville, Tennessee.

    47. Dorothy Merritt, M.D.; holistic medicine, chelation therapy; Texas City, Texas.

    48. David Steenblock, DO; stem cell therapy; San Clemente, California.

    49. Aaron Tabor, M.D.; nutrition, weight loss; Kernersville, North Carolina.

    50. Victoria Maizes, M.D.; integrative health; Tucson, Arizona.

    51. Charles Schwengel, DO; chronic pain, cancer; Phoenix, Arizona.

    52. Steven Pratt, M.D.; nutrition, lifestyle; La Jolla, California.

    53. Anca Sisu, M.D.; acupuncture, mind-body connection; Gardiner, Maine.

    54. Joe Colella, M.D.; nutrition, wellness; Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

    55. James Forsythe, M.D.; cancer; Reno, Nevada.

    56. Sandy Newmark, M.D.; pediatrics, autism; San Francisco, California.

    57. Delia Chiaramonte, M.D.; hospice and palliative care; Baltimore, Maryland.

    58. Richard Shames, M.D.; thyroid health; San Rafael, California.

    59. Tony Willcox, DOM; sports medicine, acupuncture; Delray Beach, Florida.

    60. Gabe Mirkin, M.D.; sports medicine; cardiology; Orlando, Florida.

    61. Elson Haas, M.D.; family practice; San Rafael, California.

    62. Susan Beaven, M.D.; cardiology, family medicine; Tarpon Springs, Florida.

    63. Michael Rosenbaum, M.D.; allergies; San Rafael, California.

    64. Alan Christianson, NMD; endocrinology, diet; Phoenix, Arizona.

    65. John McDougall, M.D.; weight loss, wellness; Santa Rosa, California.

    66. Kalpana Shere-Wolfe, M.D.; infectious disease; Baltimore, Maryland.

    67. John J. Cannell, M.D.; founder of Vitamin D Council; autism; San Luis Obispo, California.

    68. John Reed, M.D.; family medicine; Baltimore, Maryland.

    69. Christopher Suhar, M.D.; integrative cardiology; La Jolla, California.

    70. Karl Robinson, M.D.; homeopathy; Houston, Texas.

    71. Richard Ash, M.D.; environmental medicine; New York, New York.

    72. Keith Block, M.D.; nutritional therapy; Evanston, Illinois.

    73. Gabriel Cousens, M.D.; nutritional therapy, raw vegan diet; Patagonia, Arizona.

    74. Kenneth Bock, M.D.; autism, ADHD; Albany, New York.

    75. Alejandro Junger, M.D.; detoxification and cleansing; cleanprogram.com.

    76. Frank Lipman, M.D.; acupuncture, meditation, herbal medicine; New York, New York.

    77. William Rollow, M.D.; family medicine; Baltimore, Maryland.

    78. Joel Furhman, M.D.; immunity, nutrition; Flemington, New Jersey.

    79. Jeffrey Bland, Ph.D.; functional medicine, Metagenics; plminstitute.org.

    80. David Rosenthal, M.D.; integrative oncology; Boston, Massachusetts.

    81. Donald Abrams, M.D.; integrative oncology; San Francisco, California.

    82. Amy Myers, M.D.; autoimmune disorders; Austin, Texas.

    83. Lauren Ricther, DO; family medicine; Baltimore, Maryland.

    84. Michael Galitzer, M.D.; anti-aging, longevity; Los Angeles, California.

    85. Julie Taguchi, M.D.; oncology, hormones; Santa Barbara, California.

    86. Jonathan V. Wright, M.D.; nutritional medicine; Tukwila, Washington.

    87. Craig Title, M.D.; nutrition, weight loss; New York, New York.

    88. Deborah F. Harding, M.D.; anti-aging, Orlando, Florida.

    89. Dipnarine Maharaj, M.D.; stem cell treatment; Boynton Beach, Florida.

    90. Steven B. Harris, M.D.; geriatrics; Rancho Cucamonga, California.

    91. Michael Ozner, M.D.; cardiology, Miami, Florida.

    92. Mark Starr M.D.; pain and sports medicine; Paradise Valley, Arizona.

    93. Karen Brainard, M.D.; regenerative medicine; Bradenton, Florida.

    94. Frank Shallenberger M.D.; anti-aging; Carson City, Nevada.

    95. Andy Nish, M.D.; allergies; Gainesville, Georgia.

    96. Alison Faulkingham, M.D., pediatrics, acupuncture; Rockport, Maine.

    97. Dawna Jones, M.D.; bioidentical hormones, herbs; Hanover, Massachusetts.

    98. Dennis Courtney, M.D.; chelation therapy, pain management; McMurray, Pennsylvania.

    99. Lee Cowden, M.D.; cardiology; Dallas, Texas.

    100. Lesley James, M.D.; hormonal balance, IBS; Rochester, N.Y.

  • David

    I believe I said every MD college in the world not every single MD. I said 99.99 percent of MD

  • Jonathan Graham

    As usual, if Lowell was right it would be trivial for him to show where this happens. Since he can not, we must by Bayes Rule take this as evidence that his assertion is false. On the other hand I’ve made it pretty clear how what Ron Roy described is moving the goal posts.

  • Jonathan Graham

    What are you trying to say here Ron?

  • Thomas Mohr

    Lowell, the debate is closed as the debate whether the earth is flat or spherical is closed. Your post proves how ignorant anti-vaxxers are. Today a toddler gets way less antigens with the entire 25 vaccine panel than with the older schedule. In fact, the immune system of a toddler deals with way more antigens than contained in the 100 shots – ON A DAILY BASE.

  • David Wright

    Ron, you really need to learn how to properly cite evidence. Where did these come from? WTF, your info is basically useless because you’ve just listed a bunch of names, credentials, and office location I’m guessing. There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY any of us can look up the your evidence for ourselves.

    Link to the actual evidence:

    Websites? If so, what’s the address and when did you access it?
    Books? Publisher and page reference is a good place to start
    Journal Articles? PubMed number
    When was it published?

    You still have zero credibility!!

  • Jonathan Graham

    Even if you were to give us a list of 500 doctors – which of course you haven’t and even if you did you wouldn’t have bothered checking them because you don’t believe in doing that kind of thing – you would only be at 0.005%.

  • Ron Roy

    You still have zero credibility!! Another overused sound bite. You’re as bad as joe. Get original and stop mimicking those you admire.

  • Ron Roy

    I’m in a perfect position to talk about science. I haven’t been brainwashed by the……………………you guessed it THE MEDICAL MAFIA.

  • Ron Roy

    And I suppose all the doctors and scientists who oppose vaccines don’t know anything either? Lowell is far more knowledgeable about vaccines than you are.

  • Herbert West

    Whenever anyone references MA vs Jacobsen, realize this ruling is over 100 years old and was based on a laughable knowledge of science. Not to mention the Supreme Court has made many erroneous rulings. It was, and is even more so today beholden to special interests.

  • Herbert West

    Finally someone with a freakin pulse!

  • Homunculous

    Thank you. It’s nice to have a kindred spirit.

  • Herbert West

    A lot of mind numbing static on these forums, much of it likely paid misinformation trolls pushing agendas for special interests.

  • shay simmons

    you are lying – short term memory loss, Lowell? You wrote “This is the same guy Gorski was working with” and your cite is a newspaper article that never mentions Gorski’s name.

    Fata didn’t work for Karmanos; you could have found this yourself by looking up Detroit area newspaper reports of the arrest and trial, rather than relying on internet grifter Mike Adams as your source of information.

    Speaking of Adams, has he ever explained this Gorski blog post from three years ago (August 2013, see link below) in which Gorski slams the Michigan medical board for not protecting patients from Fata and then says

    That doesn’t leave physicians off the hook. Having spoken to oncologists I know last week, I know that some of them who saw patients of Dr. Fata’s as second opinions had serious misgivings about some of the courses of treatment they encountered. I know that some physicians in the area of Dr. Fata’s home base (Crittenton Hospital Medical Center) did not think very highly of him. Although I’ve never had any personal interaction with him and don’t recall seeing any of his patients for surgery what I can tell, there were many indications and red flags, but for some reason Dr. Fata practiced for eight years untroubled by the state medical board or the law except for the occasional malpractice suit.

    http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2013/08/13/quackery-of-a-different-kind-than-i-usually-write-about/

  • Herbert West

    Ron there was a pharma paid troll orgy on slate today today where they ran a mandatory vaccine article. The comments were so over the top, these posters here look semi-professional!

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    You don’t have a right to impose your beliefs on the majority. See

    The liberty secured by the Constitution of the United States does not import an absolute right in each person to be at all times, and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint, nor is it an element in such liberty that one person, or a minority of persons residing in any community and enjoying the benefits of its local government, should have power to dominate the majority when supported in their action by the authority of the State.

    At https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/197/11/case.html

    Religion is the last refuge of the scoundrel. The Supreme Court has ruled at least three times since Jacobson that religious objections are not protected over the community interest of public health.

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    The Supreme Court has ruled at least three times since Jacobson that religious objections are not protected over the community interest of public health and vaccination programs.

  • David Wright

    I see you’ve decided to turn your attention to me instead of referencing your evidence.

    You think zero credibility in reference to you is overused? How about – you got squat – nothing – crickets – pleading the fifth – you call that evidence? I could go on but it all means the same thing. You’re clueless and don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Hope that helps.
    Have a nice day.

  • David Wright

    Oh Ron :-)

    If you don’t like zero credibility forget I even mentioned it.

    Choose any of the following:

    – You got nothing
    – zilch
    – zip
    – clueless

    You want people to listen to you?
    Learn how to cite your sources.

    Have a nice day.

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    The Catholic bishops disagree with your point of view.

    Can someone voice conscientious objection to the use of the vaccine for rubella based on the teaching of the Catholic Church?
    No. A memorandum from the Committee on Doctrine of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops quotes (with approval) a statement from the National Catholic Bioethics Center: “The Pontifical Academy for Life rejects the claim that Catholics have a moral duty to refuse the rubella vaccine on the grounds of conscience and Catholic teaching. It encourages Catholic parents to vaccinate their children against rubella and other serious diseases despite the unfortunate origin of the cell lines used in the manufacture of the vaccines.”

    http://www2.loras.edu/~CatholicHE/Vaccines.html

  • Thomas Mohr

    “Had you of wit or letters the least jot:
    But, O most lamentable man!–of wit
    You never had an atom, and of letters
    You have three letters only!–they spell Ass!”

    Edmond Rostand, Cyrano de Bergerac, first act, fourth scene. Translation into English.

  • shay simmons

    Nope. Jaysus, Lowell, you and Ron could form an Olympic Conclusion-Jumping team between the two of you. Since my epic post on Stalking The Dodgy Internet Source has been held up in moderation (way too long and probably too snarky), I’ll start with your first dodgy internet source, David Noakes.

    Red Flag #1? Claims that GcMAF could cure cancer, autism, and other conditions with no common etiology (from the GcMAF.se website: “GcMAF is the best treatment yet found for tumour cancers and 50 other diseases”). Other red flags are Noakes’ failure to conduct any kind of trials, violent response to criticism, paucity of research (one very small study by a quack who was peddling GcMAF), and the unsafe conditions found at Noakes’ labs, as well as his attempts to circumvent the law.

    Even if you believe GcMAF works in the absence of any supporting evidence, why would you trust the word of someone who is selling a potentially contaminated blood product that was never approved for clinical use, to desperate parents? GcMAF is either inhaled through a vaporizer or administered by injection. Did the Bayer $600mil payout to hemophilia patients five years ago teach you nothing?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/regulator-warns-against-gcmaf-made-in-unlicensed-facility-in-cambridgeshire

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06d9vv3

    http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2008/12/03/cancer-cured-for-good-gc-maf-and-the-miracle-cure/

    http://autisticatedalmayne.com/autism/david-noakes-and-the-gcmaf-controversy-exclusive/

    http://www.bbc.com/news/health-34326801

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL0Gqm5dx_0 part 1
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbj7ZItgpm4 part 2

  • Herbert West

    The court remains beholden to special interests even as it defies the Constitution.

  • Herbert West

    “You don’t have a right to impose your beliefs on the majority” sorry bub, you have that ass-backwards. The majority does not have the right to impose its will on the minority.

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    Quite correct however public health is a police power of the state. Take your beef up with justice Harlan.

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    Although this court has refrained from any attempt to define the limits of that power, yet it has distinctly recognized the authority of a State to enact quarantine laws and “health laws of every description;” indeed, all laws that relate to matters completely within its territory and which do not, by their necessary operation, affect the people of other States. According to settled principles, the police power of a State must be held to embrace, at least, such reasonable regulations established directly by legislative enactment as will protect the public health and the public safetY

  • derski

    This, this is satire, right? No way you could imagine the human body is made to be fit for its entire life! Life expectancy is a myth? I’m going to have an aneurysm

  • The unsafe and unsanitary conditions claimed to at the Noake’s Lab, was a lie. Everything they ave said is a lie Did you view the video made of that facility and as to the interview done there. It looks top notch and immaculate. Nothing in that lab was ever show or proven to be unsafe, and no contamination of any product as well was ever shown in any way. The problem as to your speculation and comparison, is that BAYER is a corrupt pharmaceutical company with it origins in Nazi Germany, and which they were fully aware the HIV contamination and chose to sell the product anyway. Bradstreet and Noake’s were clearly never made of that

    Just because there were no studies published in your big pharma connected journals, does not mean that there was no clinical evidence to support the claims made. There are many other sources as well that point out directly the information on GcMAF and the nagalase issue.

    And quit bashing Natural News, the real QUACK here is you. And you actually use the blogging source science based, and expect to have any credibility remaining. The hypocrisy level must just simply burn, between your ears.

    Family of autism specialist Dr. Jeffrey Bradstreet says forensic evidence points to murder, impossible for bullet entry to be self-inflicted
    http://www.naturalnews.com/054302_Jeff_Bradstreet_murder_autism.html

    Tribute to the Late Dr. Bradstreet: Beloved Scientific Pioneer in Healing Autism
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2016/tribute-to-the-late-dr-bradstreet-beloved-scientific-pioneer-in-healing-autism/

    GcMAF = The Cure for Cancer
    Interview with CEO David Noakes 9-2015
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IjHwt_3kuw

    GcMAF for the treatment of cancer, autism, viral and bacterial disease
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnYKf3L1NQo

    The in vitro GcMAF effects on endocannabinoid system transcriptionomics, receptor formation, and cell activity of autism-derived macrophages

    Dario Siniscalco1,2,3*, James Jeffrey Bradstreet4,5, Alessandra Cirillo6 and Nicola Antonucci7

    Results: GcMAF treatment was able to normalize the observed differences in dysregulated gene expression of the
    endocannabinoid system of the autism group. GcMAF also down-regulated the over-activation of BMDMs from
    autistic children.

    Conclusions: This study presents the first observations of GcMAF effects on the transcriptionomics of the endocannabinoid system and expression of CB2R protein. These data point to a potential nexus between endocannabinoids, vitamin D and its transporter proteins, and the immune dysregulations observed with autism.
    http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1742-2094-11-78.pdf

    Initial Observations of elevated Alpha-n-Acetylgalactosaminidase Activity Associated with Autism and Observed Reductions from GC Protein—Macrophage Activating Factor Injections
    James Jeffrey Bradstreet1,2, emar Vogelaar3 and Lynda Thyer4

    Conclusions: In this first report of Nagalase activity in patients with autism, it appears that most individuals have substantially higher levels than the expected healthy ranges. Although Nagalase is a nonspecific marker of immune dysregulation, its observed levels in autism may have both etiological and therapeutic significance. Importantly, this is also the first report of reduction of Nagalase activity in an autism population with GcMAF injections.

    Read more:
    http://www.la-press.com/redirect_file.php?fileId=4674&filename=f_3450-AUI-Initial-Observations-of-Elevated-Alpha-N-Acetylgalactosaminidase-Activ_2_4670_2&file

    Dr. Jeff Bradstreet speaks at Autism One
    http://www.autismone.org/content/dr-jeff-bradstreet-speaks-autism-one

    About GcMAF, (macrophage stimulating factor), in relation to human health
    http://www.vacfacts.info/about-gcmaf-macrophage-stimulating-factor-in-relation-to-human-health.html

    Nagalase, GcMAF, Autism, and Dr Jeff Bradstreet
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPFrYb4GmIc

    Dr.Bradstreet Search Warrant: the promising drug GcMAF was their target!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v3IA2Hj1TA

    Dr Bradstreet on treating autism with First Immune GcMAF (gcmaf.eu)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ5wog0oig0

    INVESTIGATION: Three days before Dr. Bradstreet was found dead in a river, U.S. govt. agents raided his research facility to seize a breakthrough cancer treatment called GcMAF
    http://www.naturalnews.com/050553_Dr_Bradstreet_GcMAF_cancer_therapy.html

    U.S. govt. search warrant document served against Dr. Jeffrey Bradstreet to confiscate GcMAF from his research facility.
    http://www.naturalnews.com/050553_Dr_Bradstreet_GcMAF_cancer_therapy.html

    Dr. Jeff Bradstreet Murder vs. Suicide: Media Spin Evidences Organized Crime
    http://medicalveritas.org/dr-jeff-bradstreet-murder-vs-suicide-media-propaganda-evidences-organized-crime/

  • Did any of my post EVEN MENTION the Catholic Church? I could care less what the Pope and the Catholic Church have to say. And thus obviously and of course you simply ignored anything and everything, within my reply.

  • I am NOT imposing my beliefs on anyone. What I am doing is offering information on making the correct choices. The choice is entirely up to the individual, and based on the information that I have put forth. Do you choose to censor that by falsely claiming that I am imposing my beliefs on others? And what are you imposing here in as to your own level of obvious hypocrisy? You are imposing the decisions and the will of a corrupt government, and that is exactly what. You do that for your own self serving purposes and as it fits so well with the pro-vax mandated, and forced vaccines agenda.

    So like the Queen of England you stand upright and impose the government rulings on vaccines, and as you find and see them to be. You are so honorable.

    You belong as charged and right in among them at the CDC, which deserve to be on trial for direct Nuremberg Code violations.

    MEDICAL NUREMBERG FOR CDC NOW
    http://www.jeffereyjaxen.com/blog/medical-nuremberg-for-cdc-now

  • toejam

    OR stubb out the joint.

  • toejam

    Well their is always Hitlery.

  • That claim simply does not cut it. Lets see you as well post a direct article which is of a scientifically based nature, which directly details specifically how they concluded that there are less antigens in vaccines today than with the schedule that was prior to lets say 1987. This is just another Paul Offit directed scam. That actually false claim is made simply because there are zero studies that have ever been done regarding directly showing the safety profile of the current CDC schedule. And you say that the debate is closed, and all while yet as said no such study has ever been done, and as well no large scale, or or that matter no study has been done even smaller scale, regarding vaccinated verses unvaccinated resulting health outcomes.

    Do you as well have any safety studies showing the safety of the practice of giving a small child from 5 and up to 9 or more vaccines in a single day and office visit? And even though such studies have never been done, when a child comes back in severely ill, and/or obviously vaccine injured, the doctors and pediatricians just simply walk away telling the parents there was no connection to any vaccines. They as well will never be held legally responsible, and.or liable.

    How Much Money Do Pediatricians Really Make From Vaccines?

    So how much money do doctors really make from vaccines? The average American pediatrician has 1546 patients, though some pediatricians see many more. The vast majority of those patients are very young, perhaps because children transition to a family physician or stop visiting the doctor at all as they grow up. As they table above explains, Blue Cross Blue Shield pays pediatricians $400 per fully vaccinated child. If your pediatrician has just 100 fully-vaccinated patients turning 2 this year, that’s $40,000. Yes, Blue Cross Blue Shield pays your doctor a $40,000 bonus for fully vaccinating 100 patients under the age of 2. If your doctor manages to fully vaccinate 200 patients, that bonus jumps to $80,000.

    But here’s the catch: Under Blue Cross Blue Shield’s rules, pediatricians lose the whole bonus unless at least 63% of patients are fully vaccinated, and that includes the flu vaccine. So it’s not just $400 on your child’s head–it could be the whole bonus. To your doctor, your decision to vaccinate your child might be worth $40,000, or much more, depending on the size of his or her practice.

    If your pediatrician recommends that your child under the age of 2 receive the flu vaccine–even though the flu vaccine has never been studied in very young children and evidence suggests that the flu vaccine actually weakens a person’s immune system over the long term–ask yourself: Is my doctor more concerned with selling me vaccines to keep my child healthy or to send his child to private school?

    Read more:
    https://wellnessandequality.com/2016/06/20/how-much-money-do-pediatricians-really-make-from-vaccines/

    http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/how-much-money-do-pediatricians-really-make-from-vaccines/166576

    2016-BCN-BCBSM-Incentive-Program-Booklet.pdf
    2016 PERFORMANCE RECOGNITION PROGRAM
    http://thephysicianalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/2016-BCN-BCBSM-Incentive-Program-Booklet.pdf

    Vaccine Safety Conference Session 20 – Dr. Richard Deth, PhD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1L84EQ9S5k

    New Research Suggests Link Between Vaccine Ingredients and Autism, ADHD
    http://vaccinechoicecanada.com/health-risks/autism/new-research-suggests-link-between-vaccine-ingredients-and-autism-adhd/

    Pharmacy Professor Breaks New Ground in Autism
    http://www.northeastern.edu/leadershipcampaign/faculty/deth.html

    Activation of methionine synthase by insulin-like growth factor-1 and dopamine: a target for neurodevelopmental toxins and thimerosal
    M Waly1, H Olteanu2, R Banerjee2, S-W Choi3, J B Mason3, B S Parker4, S Sukumar4, S Shim1, A Sharma1, J M Benzecry1, V-A Power-Charnitsky1 and R C Deth1

    Abstract
    Methylation events play a critical role in the ability of growth factors to promote normal development. Neurodevelopmental toxins, such as ethanol and heavy metals, interrupt growth factor signaling, raising the possibility that they might exert adverse effects on methylation. We found that insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1)- and dopamine-stimulated methionine synthase (MS) activity and folate-dependent methylation of phospholipids in SH-SY5Y human neuroblastoma cells, via a PI3-kinase- and MAP-kinase-dependent mechanism. The stimulation of this pathway increased DNA methylation, while its inhibition increased methylation-sensitive gene expression. Ethanol potently interfered with IGF-1 activation of MS and blocked its effect on DNA methylation, whereas it did not inhibit the effects of dopamine. Metal ions potently affected IGF-1 and dopamine-stimulated MS activity, as well as folate-dependent phospholipid methylation: Cu2+ promoted enzyme activity and methylation, while Cu+, Pb2+, Hg2+ and Al3+ were inhibitory. The ethylmercury-containing preservative thimerosal inhibited both IGF-1- and dopamine-stimulated methylation with an IC50 of 1 nM and eliminated MS activity. Our findings outline a novel growth factor signaling pathway that regulates MS activity and thereby modulates methylation reactions, including DNA methylation. The potent inhibition of this pathway by ethanol, lead, mercury, aluminum and thimerosal suggests that it may be an important target of neurodevelopmental toxins.

    Read more:
    http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v9/n4/full/4001476a.html

    PDF of the study:
    http://www.putchildrenfirst.org/media/6.22.pdf

    Vaccines and ADHD and autism
    http://www.ldonline.org/xarbb/printtopic/10689?theme=print

    Vaccine Safety Conference- (more speakers)
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW_3ykt68GF9dmOyus-OeXw

  • So you think that I should be required to, and that I am going to go back through the last 6 articles you have posted on, and copy and past all your replies into a collection which identify the evidence of your moving the goal posts; or there is evidence that it never happened. You are and always were nothing but a liar; so full of yourself, and and as well so full of your endless denial.

  • I fact check it any time I read an article from that source, and/ or any other source. I have before rejected articles from N.N., and as I felt that they did not make their case with enough evidence for some of the claims made. However, if I ever use them as a specific article source, I assure you that I have fact checked the claims in that article.

  • Really, and which link of mine, is that? If you can not see that all of the links above are quite clearly credible, then you are either lying, or you must have a large hole in your head. No more replies, you said it; now stick to it.

  • joe

    Yeah I see where your coming from,you guys don’t have much choice,I think Trump could start a war and then you have Clinton? I think you guys in the USA should worry because it appears both have serious flaws,why don’t you guys vote for Ron,he must be an improvement on the other two? err better not.

  • Obviously, you do not know how immunology works. As I said, lets see you describe yourself, or provide a scientifically based article regarding the comparison numbers of vaccine antigens currently, and verses the vaccine schedule in lets say 1987? I want a description of exactly how that said calculation is made.

    New Junk Science Study – No link between ‘too many vaccines’ and autism risk
    http://www.vacfacts.info/new-junk-science-study—no-link-between-too-many-vaccines-and-autism-risk.html

    Original Antigenic Sin Committed by Vaccination
    By Suzanne Humphries, MD and Roman Bystrianyk – VRAN Newsletter, Fall 2013
    http://vaccinechoicecanada.com/resources/books-periodicals/original-antigenic-sin-committed-by-vaccination/

    Updated, augmented vaccines compete with original antigenic sin – Gardasil
    http://moscow.sci-hub.cc/304d0ce5621349c755e6db81da6f1231/chakradhar2015.pdf

    The Currently Failed Flu Vaccine Expose/ With Original Antigenic Sin Study Info
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-currently-failed-flu-vaccine-expose-with-original-antigenic-sin-study-info.html

    How Vaccines Dysregulate The Immune System
    http://gdsajj.wordpress.com/2011/08/05/how-vaccines-dysregulate-the-immune-system/

    Vaccinations Cause Chronic Immune System Dysregulation
    http://www.liveto110.com/vaccinations-cause-chronic-immune-system-dysregulation/

    An Immune Disorder at the Root of Autism

    So here’s the short of it: At least a subset of autism — perhaps one-third, and very likely more — looks like a type of inflammatory disease. And it begins in the womb. [No it does NOT, and that is not necessarily true, unless the mother has taken a Thimerosal containing flu vaccine, or such as an aluminum adjuvant containing DTaP vaccine. Much of this dysregulation can clearly happen after birth, and of course infants are vaccinated, from birth.]

    It starts with what scientists call immune dysregulation. Ideally, your immune system should operate like an enlightened action hero, meting out inflammation precisely, accurately and with deadly force when necessary, but then quickly returning to a Zen-like calm. Doing so requires an optimal balance of pro- and anti-inflammatory muscle.

    In autistic individuals, the immune system fails at this balancing act. Inflammatory signals dominate. Anti-inflammatory ones are inadequate. A state of chronic activation prevails. And the more skewed toward inflammation, the more acute the autistic symptoms.

    Nowhere are the consequences of this dysregulation more evident than in the autistic brain. Spidery cells that help maintain neurons — called astroglia and microglia — are enlarged from chronic activation. Pro-inflammatory signaling molecules abound. Genes involved in inflammation are switched on.

    These findings are important for many reasons, but perhaps the most noteworthy is that they provide evidence of an abnormal, continuing biological process. That means that there is finally a therapeutic target for a disorder defined by behavioral criteria like social impairments, difficulty communicating and repetitive behaviors.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/opinion/sunday/immune-disorders-and-autism.html/?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    A Mouse Model for the Immune Dysregulation Subtype of Autism, (And they would still claim to that there is no way vaccines have and can cause autism? That conclusion is of course clearly preposterous.)
    http://tacanowblog.com/2012/07/23/a-mouse-model-for-the-immune-dysregulation-subtype-of-autism/

    Vaccines and Autism, ADHD and Asthma
    Immunizations and the Immunocompromised
    “Yet, no doctor is trained to look for this type of immunodeficiency and/or the kind of immune dysregulation that multiple vaccine can cause; which lead to so called inflammatory syndromes and resulting overactivation of the brains microglia cells and resulting chronic levels of brain inflammation now ever more increasingly found in studies of those with autism. Vaccine aluminum adjuvants in several studies have been fund as well to in itself cause this stated inflammation.
    http://www.epidemicanswers.org/vaccines-and-autism-adhd-and-asthma/

    Immune Deficiencies
    Antibodies (or Immunoglobins)

    Concentrations of IL-12 and interferon gamma are much higher in the blood of children with autism than in normal children, indicating an immune activation, possibly due to adverse vaccine reactions. An optimal immune response to Candida infections necessitates a finely tuned balance of interferon gamma production; the dysregulation of the immune system, caused by IL-12-induced increases in gamma interferon, leads to increased Candida susceptibility in animals.

    Read more:
    http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/home/eng/immunedeficiencies.asp

    The immune response in autism: a new frontier for autism research

    Immune aberrations consistent with a dysregulated immune response, which so far, have been reported in autistic children, include abnormal or skewed T helper cell type 1 (TH1)/TH2 cytokine profiles, decreased lymphocyte numbers, decreased T cell mitogen response, and the imbalance of serum immunoglobulin levels. In addition, autism has been linked with autoimmunity and an association with immune-based genes including human leukocyte antigen (HLA)-DRB1 and complement C4 alleles described.

    Read more:
    http://www.jleukbio.org/content/80/1/1.long

    Study links vaccine induced immune overload to autism, diabetes, obesity

    A new vaccine study published in Molecular and Genetic Medicine is bringing to the forefront the disturbing connection between the dramatic expansion in the quantity of routine childhood vaccines administered and a corresponding increase in inflammation-associated disorders.

    Titled, “Review of Vaccine Induced Immune Overload and the Resulting Epidemics of Type 1 Diabetes and Metabolic Syndrome, Emphasis on Explaining the Recent Accelerations in the Risk of Prediabetes and other Immune Mediated Diseases,” the study argues that vaccine-induced immune overload is a driving factor in a number of rapidly accelerating childhood epidemics including:

    Autism
    Type 1 diabetes
    Asthma
    Food allergies
    Many autoimmune diseases
    Obesity
    Type 2 diabetes
    Non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFL)
    Metabolic disease.

    http://www.sott.net/article/279911-Study-links-vaccine-induced-immune-overload-to-autism-diabetes-obesity
    http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_30175.cfm

    Review of Vaccine Induced Immune Overload and the Resulting Epidemics of Type 1 Diabetes and Metabolic Syndrome, Emphasis on Explaining the Recent Accelerations in the Risk of Prediabetes and other Immune Mediated Diseases

    Abstract Background: Epidemics of type 1 diabetes had been linked to inflammation. Previous reports have suggested the prevalence of autism is increased in patients with type 1diabetes.

    Methods: Medline and Google searches were performed in late 2010 to find a country where there was simulta-neous data on the incidence or prevalence of type 1 diabetes, type 2 diabetes and autism in multiple different races. The association between prevalence of autism in children and the incidence of type 1 diabetes or type 2 diabetes in children, when stratified by race, was studied.

    Results: The prevalence of autism has a statistically significant positive association with the incidence of type 1 diabetes but has a statistically significant inverse association with type 2 diabetes.

    Conclusion: This suggests that patients with autoimmune autism likely represent a large subset of patients with autism and that the etiology of the epidemic of autoimmune/inflammation mediated autism in children is likely to be related to the etiology of the simultaneous epidemic of type 1 diabetes in children.

    http://www.omicsonline.com/open-access/vaccine-induced-immune-overload-and-the-resulting-epidemics-of-type-diabetes-and-metabolic-syndrome-1747-0862.S1-025.php?aid=24058

    Autoimmune Disorders Caused by Vaccines
    http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/autoimmune-disorders-caused-by-vaccines/

    Self-Organized Criticality Theory of Autoimmunity

    Conclusions/Significance
    Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host’s immune ‘system’ by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system’s self-organized criticality.

    http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0008382

    How Do Vaccines Work? Immune Mechanisms and Consequences
    http://pathwaystofamilywellness.org/component/option,com_crossjoomlaarticlemanager/Itemid,375/aid,1369/view,crossjoomlaarticlemanager/#sthash.rkJSugBv.dpuf

    Your Immune System, How It Works And How Vaccines Damage It
    http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Your-Immune-System-How-It-Works-And-How-Vaccines-Damage-It

    Anatomy and Physiology of the Immune System, Part 4
    How pharmaceuticals destroy nature
    http://jonbarron.org/article/anatomy-and-physiology-immune-system-part-4#.UwH0pvldXbY

    Understanding immunity requires more than immunology
    http://www.nature.com/ni/journal/v11/n7/full/ni0710-561.html

    Warning to Pregnant Mothers – Toxic Dose of Aluminum in the Tdap
    Paul Thomas, Pediatrician
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoY6vXEMsU8

    Aluminum in Vaccines | A Pediatricians Warning To All Parents
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee70I5bm3-k

  • Of course it will not happen that soon. It will take time, and more is going up against her in the way of investigation, all the time.

    You said you would vote for this corrupt woman. You should perhaps rethink that.

    The Cost of Dishonesty About Our Security

    Which brings us to the heart of the matter.

    We are sleepwalking through history as though this is All About Politics.

    It is not.

    It is about our safety and our survival as a country.

    We cannot keep in place the people and the systems that have brought us to this point and that LIE to us every single day about the threat.

    That is why every American should be terrified at the prospect of a Hillary Clinton presidency.

    Hillary Clinton has been right at the center of this dishonesty.

    We know this administration and its allies lied to us about the Iran nuclear deal. We know it because they openly bragged about it to the New York Times.
    We know that Hillary Clinton lied to us knowingly about the terror attack on our Benghazi consulate.

    We know that Hillary Clinton and President Obama lie to the American people when they say they can safely screen the Syrian refugees. They cannot. And yet Hillary wants to increase the number by 500 percent.

    So when you hear about Hillary’s dishonesty, or the emails, or taking millions from the Saudis and other Middle Eastern dictatorships–remember: this is not about politics.
    The cost of Hillary’s dishonesty could be the loss of America as we know it.

    The first step forward to safety is electing a leader who will be truthful with the American people about the realities we face.

    Only then will we understand, support, and demand the strategies required to confront this threat.

    Read more:
    http://www.gingrichproductions.com/2016/07/the-cost-of-dishonesty-about-our-security/

    FBI Insider Leaks All: Clinton Foundation Exposed! Involves Entire US Government!
    http://endingthefed.com/fbi-insider-leaks-all-clinton-foundation-exposed-involves-entire-us-government.html

    Edward Snowden and Julian Assange Just Responded to the DNC Leaks
    http://usuncut.com/politics/edward-snowden-julian-assange-dnc/

    Leaked DNC documents drop BOMBSHELL about big donors…
    http://www.allenbwest.com/michellejesse/whoa-leaked-dnc-documents-drop-bombshell-big-donors

  • Billy Briggs

    Well your evidence that Gorski worked with Fata was “Remember, before he plead guilty to fraud, Fata presided over MICHIGAN’S LARGEST PRIVATE CANCER PRACTICE – the Barbara Ann Karmonos(sic) Center–where Gorski works right now.”
    Fata never worked there. It’s Wayne State’s main cancer center, not part of a private practice. So try again. What evidence do you have that “[Fata] is the same guy Gorski was working with.” Or do you retract your statement?

  • And the major alternative is a candidate who openly endorses torture and murder. There’s not much to be excited about.

  • Thomas Mohr

    Nice try, Lowell. Now you might want to explain why Autism prevalence did not rise until the mid 1990ties. At this time the diagnistic criteria where broadened, but Thiomersal was phased out of most vaccines ? You also may want to explain why HUGE retrospective studies (e.g. in Scandinavia) do not reflect a correlation between autism rates and vaccination ? Another point why discussion with anti-vaxxers is closed. First, studies in humans trump studies of cells in the glass and cherry picking is NOT scientific.

  • It seems that you are reading that from the same science blogs article connected to Gorski, attempting to defend himself. No information is credible on that highly biased blog site. You can falsely claim that NN is biased, but there is obviously no reason for it to be.

    Victims of Detroit cancer criminal awarded $8M in settlement… is the arrest of fraudster Dr. David Gorski next?
    http://www.naturalnews.com/054747_Dr_David_Gorski_Farid_Fata_criminal_cancer_fraud.html

    U.S. v. Farid Fata: Court Docket 13-CR-20600
    https://www.justice.gov/usao-edmi/us-v-farid-fata-court-docket-13-cr-20600

    http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/oakland/2016/07/20/fata-cancer-patients-share-8m-settlement/87336964/

  • That is not true at all. The person actually endorsing murder, is Hilary.

    How many people have died under suspicious circumstances while working for the Clintons?
    http://www.secretsofthefed.com/how-many-people-have-died-under-suspicious-circumstances-while-working-for-the-clintons/

    You just hate Trump because he is all about vaccine truth. You want Hilary because she is just a pharma bought off sheeple. that will never question and simply continue to support the same continued, and mandated injected vaccine poisoning of infants and children.

    Gov. Pence – Opponent of Eli Lilly and HPV Vaccine Mandate
    http://www.autisminvestigated.com/gov-pence-eli-lilly-hpv/

    Raw Science Actually Supports Antivaxxers: Vaccines Utterly DESTROY Cellular Immunity
    http://www.vaccines.news/2016-02-25-raw-science-actually-supports-antivaxxers-vaccines-utterly-destroy-cellular-immunity.html

  • If you can find me a statement from Hillary in which she personally and explicitly endorses murder, that’ll be a match. As for vaccines, I haven’t been paying attention to either candidate’s opinions on them.

  • First of all you are being to narrow minded in assuming that the vaccine caused autism has only surrounded a Thimerosal issue. Vaccine caused autism has surrounded of course Thimerosal, but as well live virus vaccines, aluminum adjuvants, vaccine contamination, to many vaccines at once and over-whelming cytokine activity, etc. Have you not read the Sound Choice Pharmaceutical Institutes information and as well that as to the two studies directed by Teresa Deisher? All of it is posted on this article, and as well reference links to many other studies. Aluminum adjuvants were increased right after Thimerosal was phased out. Thimerosal is still in man vaccines in what are said to be trace amounts. Who at the FDA is following up on making sure that all that is left is trace amounts from manufacturing? No one is, and in fact it is left to be regulated only on the presumed honor of big pharma. There were many vaccines developed with the use of aborted fetal cell tissue and that increased in number at the same rate as the change points in autism increased, almost parallel to it. As well in the same time period the big push to place to vaccinated all pregnant women for the flu, and many of those vaccines did contain the full 25 mcg of Thimerosal.

    All of the main and larger epidemiological studies are outlined here as to a direct summary. All of them are clearly and entirely unreliable junk science.

    Found were the use of flawed study designs, use of unrealiable data, predetermined outcomes unsupported by the data, and as well major conflicts of interest in the studies funding sources; none of them being independent and nor unbiased.

    VACCINES AND AUTISM – WHAT DO EPIDEMIOLOGICAL STUDIES REALLY TELL US?
    http://www.rescuepost.com/files/vaccines-and-autism-epidemiology-rebuttal.pdf

    Raw Science Actually Supports Antivaxxers: Vaccines Utterly DESTROY Cellular Immunity
    http://www.vaccines.news/2016-02-25-raw-science-actually-supports-antivaxxers-vaccines-utterly-destroy-cellular-immunity.html

  • Billy Briggs

    No, that quote came from your Natural News article. But I agree you can’t trust Natural News on anything.

    So you don’t have anything else?

  • I do not need anything else, fool. The NN article is backed up by other sources, so just face it. You simply refuse to be wrong.

  • Like you are so mindless that you think she would actually admit to that, or it simply can not be true. What has she ever, admitted to; and yet she has repeatedly been guilty of cases of fraud, her entire adult life. You as well have not yet and with evidence, supported your own statement, regarding Trump.

  • 2 December 2015, on Fox & Friends:

    “The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families. They care about their lives, don’t kid yourself. When they say they don’t care about their lives, you have to take out their families.”

  • Thomas Mohr

    Lowell, let me explain someting to you: There are literally hundreds of studies (and very big ones) that do not demonstrate a correlation between autism and vaccines and only one, the infamous Wakefield study, that demonstrates one. SafeMinds and Wakefield claim their hypothesis to be true whilst trying to show that the hundreds of other studies are false due to bias. This does not fly. This is not serious science. Given the claimed magnitude of the effect and the variety of biases in the studies probability that the Autism-vaccine connection would have shown up in at least one study is very high. It hasn’t, and even the whistleblower story they tell in their socalled documentary is scientifically bullshit. If one segments data deeply enough (as they did) you will *always* find positive reseults. What they are trying is to find a baby in the discarded bathing water. After 20+ years as a scientist I can tell you that this does not work. Once again, your argumentation does not fly.

  • James Peters
  • Billy Briggs

    Unless you can prove Fata owned Wayne State’s main cancer center (do you believe Fata owned Wayne State’s main cancer center?) then you need something else, because you’ve produced nothing to back up your assertion Fata and Gorski worked together.
    Why don’t you just retract your statement before you dig a deeper hole for yourself?

  • Jonathan Graham

    So you think that I should be required to

    No, I’m just saying that Bayes Rule tells us that because your not providing any evidence is the same outcome as not having any evidence we have to increase the likelihood of the later being true.

  • Ron Roy

    There you go I knew you could come up with something a little original. You’re wrong but somewhat original. You have a nice day also.

  • Ron Roy

    Terrible reply Gorski would be ashamed.

  • Ron Roy

    There is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY any of us can look up the your evidence for ourselves. Try Google it really works you know. Then again I guess you didn’t know.

  • Ron Roy

    Tunnel vision +

  • David Wright

    Ah Google it. Instead of listing a 100 names, pick a couple that support your claim and give us proper citations.
    It’s very easy, and it furthers the discussion. You’ll also be taken more seriously.

  • David Wright

    Ah yes, more distractions.

    I’m amazed at the pride you take in your ignorance.

    Oh well, I’ve wasted enough time on you today.

    Later

  • shay simmons

    Do you believe GcMAF can cure 50 diseases?

  • shay simmons

    He can’t even prove Fata ever worked for Karmanos. Mike Adam’s claim that Fata owned Karmanos is easily disproved by looking up the newspaper reports at the time of the trial. Lowell, however, is a true believer.

  • shay simmons

    Not to mention Fata owned his own chain of clinics and never had privileges at Karmanos.

  • shay simmons

    And none of the cases mention Gorski. Color me surprised.

  • shay simmons

    Yes, please read Truthwiki. It’s pretty deranged and, per usual, doesn’t provide any proof.

  • shay simmons

    Truthwiki and Natural News…what a combo. You don’t need to link, I read these four months ago when Gorski broke the story on his blog.

    Not very clever of Adams, and hasn’t accomplished what he set out to do. No wonder he’s furious.

  • shay simmons

    “There exists no master list and record,”

    So basically you have no idea how many vaccine related deaths there are, either.

  • shay simmons

    Lowell never vets his information sources.

  • joe

    Yeah tell me about it.

  • Ron Roy

    Very wise move.

  • Ron Roy

    I’m not trying to inform closed minds but only those who have an open mind.

  • Lowell also thinks it’s a conspiracy every time he loses cell reception. I wouldn’t count on him very much.

  • Nikka80

    “correct choices” based on just what Lowell Hubbs presents or… “informed choices” gleaned from ALL available information?

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    You claimed that God does not approve of vaccination. I pointed out that there is not a common consensus from a religious standpoint as to the morality of vaccinations.

    In fact because of the very real risk of harming another person through failure to vaccinate family members renders your position immoral.

    SCOTUS in Jacobson said
    There are manifold restraints to which every person is necessarily subject for the common good. On any other basis, organized society could not exist with safety to its members. Society based on the rule that each one is a law unto himself would soon be confronted with disorder and anarchy. Real liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own, whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others.

  • Sonja Henie

    Actually, there are very few organized religions that oppose vaccines. Even Christian Science says it’s OK, along with all major protestant denominations in the US, the Catholic Church, Judaism (most branches ) , Islam, Hindu. The Dutch Reformed Church in the Netherlands and I believe its branch in Canada are the only religions I know of that specifically oppose immunizations.

  • That is just another load of falsely fear mongering BS.

    As well no one has said here that any specific religion has ever had it right, in regard to vaccines. What was put in front of you was based on the correct examples of correct thinking based on the correct beliefs and as well stated by Biblical verses. Don’t like it, then just keep on slambing your kids and grandkids with all those toxic and contaminated vaccines. The information I put forth exists for thinking people and which want to get it right. That information was not expected to change any minds like yours which are entirely in denial, and that refuse independent and the factual information, across the board.

    So why have you had nothing to say about this article which i posted Do you have any means at all to dispute and disagree with that information? Of course to don’t.

    INDESCRIBABLY DISGUSTING VACCINE INGREDIENTS

    SO WHAT ABOUT THE FLY IN OUR SOUP?

    It may not do any harm at all, especially if it has been well heated in the soup!

    However, all injected substances including insect fragments bypass the body’s intricate defense mechanism. The same substances which are harmless when ingested are shown to be extremely detrimental to health when injected. This is learned by medical students and others, but many doctors, health authorities and other vaccine promoters appear to ignore this basic fact.

    Read more:
    http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/2012/01/indescribably-disgusting-vaccine.html

  • Based on the actual truth information. What did you expect it would be based on, Nikka80, with no real identity? Over the years it has been actually gleened from both the pro-vaccine sides information, and as well all of the independent and unbiased information that has had good information provided. All claims are fact checked and retained when there is left no reasonable doubt left as to being correct. Much of what is concluded is as well substantiated by dozens and dozens of studies, and professionally put forth data. In your world however you demand to brand all of those people as quacks, when the real quacks refuse to see their own hypocrisy, and all while again and again having nothing to put forth but more attempted false discreditation.

  • As I said no one can or could an exact number to it and/or an entirely accurate estimate. Those of us that have been in the circles of research and as well that have read and seen the endless numbers of vaccine injuries from parents, and all in all within the research there exists evidence of vaccine injuries and with also resulting autism, that would without a doubt number in the thousands, year; and with hundreds of resulting vaccine caused infant deaths. There is no point arguing with you because you have already denied it all, and you will continue to.

  • Do you ever have anything to offer in regard to any information that does not involve only more attempted, false discreditation? That is all you people ever have. And you are as well again lying because Mike Adam’s articles nailed it perfectly and as best it could be done.

    Dr. David Gorski named in medical conspiracy allegations complaint filed with Karmanos Cancer Center and Michigan Attorney General
    http://www.naturalnews.com/053736_Dr_David_Gorski_medical_conspiracy_allegations_Karmanos_Cancer_Center.html

    Victims of Detroit cancer criminal awarded $8M in settlement… is the arrest of fraudster Dr. David Gorski next?
    http://www.naturalnews.com/054747_Dr_David_Gorski_Farid_Fata_criminal_cancer_fraud.html

    Science troll and cancer surgeon David Gorski (ORAC) named in conspiracy allegations filed with the FBI; Health Ranger to deliver ‘bombshell’ findings in sworn testimony
    http://www.naturalnews.com/053751_David_Gorski_conspiracy_allegations_FBI_complaint.html

    Detroit cancer surgeon warning: Watch out for Dr. David Gorski at the Karmanos Cancer Center
    http://www.naturalnews.com/053774_David_Gorski_Karmanos_Cancer_Center_in_Detroit_breast_surgery.html

    Detroit’s corrupt healthcare system exposed: Crittenton oncology nurse goes berserk when probed about cancer fraudster Dr. Farid Fata
    http://www.naturalnews.com/053733_Crittenton_Hospital_Medical_Center_Farid_Fata_David_Gorski.html

  • And all while you pro-vax trolls have repeatedly referenced to rationalwiki, and which actually is nothing but a misinformation source. And you can still actually refute, and have refuted nothing as to that information I posted..

  • It is known to treat and successfully cure a lot. Obviously the substance has been so gone after by the FDA and as well similar to the FDA regulating agencies, in other countries. Go ahead and view the information in this informational video, and then tell me all the claims against David Noakes and as well Dr Bradstreet, were true. The regulating agencies clearly lied about ti all.

    David Noakes: “Governments & Big Pharma Are Colluding To Keep Gc-MAF A Secret!”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy0luU4RF5U

  • Bayes’ theorem has nothing to do with this situation with you. The evidence is plastered within hundreds of reply post that you have made on multiple articles. The stupidity of insisting that I copy and paste all those into a page file, and as to what they were responding to; simply is unreasonable and unrealistic, and again all that amounts to is just more of the endless and false antagonizing that goes on, on your part. You are guilty as charged, I can assure you and any readers that have ever followed your posts. More of your hypocrisy, and more of your denial, is the only game you ever have going.

  • Oh B.S,, clearly no one has to prove that at all, to show they were working as connected, and Gorski at the very least quite obviously knew what was going on. It appears to me that the investigation is not done yet, and more information may turn up as time goes on. The hole being dug here is the full of your own desperate denial. After all you simply can’t have your so infamous pharma and vaccine promoting hero and expert misinformation filled articles blogging editor, go down the rabbit hole so far he never comes back out; and at the very least with further credibility. Only an entirely mislead idiot would ever thin that his articles were a credible source of information. But you shills love him, and together with the Skeptical Raptor blog, Left and Right, and Red Wine & Applesauce; you people have nothing left for reference to and for your replying misinformation, and lies

  • Noe of those links have anything to do with your false claim that Noakes was not selling true and real GcMAF. In fact he was and it was a quality form of it.

    [Efranat has developed cancer immunotherapy based on macrophage activation using a plasma protein designated EF-022, a modified Vitamin D Binding Protein Macrophage Activator]

    The people that are not using actual GcMAF are the people in your clinical trial studies. You can not patent natural forms of substances, Therefore millions in big pharma drug money can not be made; and the same as with cannabis oil. They pharma make synthetic versions that never work as well, and with all sorts of side effects the natural form did not have. So, who are the real health care hero’s here? Noakes and Bradstreet, or your for big profits, pharma crew. You know that they are obviously attempting to make a chemical drug that does the same thing that GcMAF has been known to do. All while ignoring what actual GCMAF has already done. The very same thing is going on regarding Cannabis oil, and that has been so far largely a failure.

    So again your hypocrisy the finger comes pointing right back to you, in regard to any claim of not selling actual GcMAF.

    Here listen to this interview of David Noakes and as to what he states about his lab and the test phases that product went through. As well he details exactly what the so called authorities, really did.

    David Noakes: “Governments & Big Pharma Are Colluding To Keep Gc-MAF A Secret!”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy0luU4RF5U

    This is the GcMAF website that Noakes references to in the video. Again it all looks very professionally done, and as to what they are doing
    https://gcmaf.se/

  • I have seen all the studies that people like you attempt to dig up, and each and every time I go through them they are not at all what the study title says they are. The data and the findings do not support any generalized conclusion of safety, and regardless of the vaccine issue studied. Junk science in regard to vaccine safety studies is all i ever find.

    You have yet to produce any studies in regard to the issues that i outlined for you. How many times would I need to do that, and put it again in front of you? You simply ignore it all.

    As well as to those epidemiological studies; there are only 14 main larger studies, and all they focused on was either the MMR vaccine, or Thimerosal. Nothing else. There are perhaps at the most 16 larger epidmiological studies in all which have been considered to carry the weight that they claim they needed. As I said, all of them show flawed study designs, the use of unreliable data, study conclusions unsupported by the data, the evidence of predetermined outcomes, and as well major conflicts of interest in the funding sources for the study.

    That well done analysis as I told you, is right here. Stop ignoring it.

    VACCINES AND AUTISM – WHAT DO EPIDEMIOLOGICAL STUDIES REALLY TELL US?

    We have 16 studies already that clearly state that vaccines do not cause autism.”
    — Amy Pisani, Executive Director, Every Child By Two

    “16 studies have shown no causal association between vaccines and autism, and these
    studies carry weight in the scientific industry.”
    — Dr. Nancy Snyderman, NBC Today Show Medical Editor

    “The science is largely complete. Ten epidemiological studies have shown MMR vaccine
    doesn’t cause autism; six have shown thimerosal doesn’t cause autism.”
    — Dr. Paul Offit, “Autism’s False Prophets”

    Read more:
    http://www.rescuepost.com/files/vaccines-and-autism-epidemiology-rebuttal.pdf

    14 Studies
    http://www.fourteenstudies.org/

  • Thomas Mohr

    Once again, Lowell. This analysis is NOT well done. It assumes that the MMR vaccine causes autism. This assumption is based on *one fraudulent* paper. Further they try to “prove” their point by pointing out flaws in studies that show no link. That is not how science works, Lowell. Once again for you: where are other data suggesting a link between autism and the MMR vaccine ?

  • I have what appears to be the full interview right here below. I listened to the entire interview and never heard that said claim being made. Ok, lets for argument sake,make an assumption that trump made that claim above. How is it not the truth? They do that now as Obama presiding. When they go bomb and kill high level so called terrorists and ISIS; they do not care if their family gets killed in the process, and/or innocent bystanders. They consider it the cost of doing business. So let me ask you, being ISIS has family members that as well may be just as involved, how is he wrong?

    Donald Trump FULL Interview On Fox And Friends Wednesday, December 2, 2015
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEtRqI4r7PQ

    Here is more on the known murderous Clintons, who you say are a better choice. I disagree. Do you see at all how twisted you are, and as to how your mind works? How hard can that be to see?

    DNC Election Fraud Whistleblower Found Murdered
    http://yournewswire.com/dnc-election-fraud-whistleblower-found-murdered/

    The Clinton Body Count (47 people)
    http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/billclinton/fl/The-Clinton-Body-Count.htm

    TRUMP HAS BEEN SHOUTING WHAT WIKILEAKS HAS PROVEN THROUGH HARD EVIDENCE! MEET THE MAN BEHIND THE LEAKS…
    https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2016/07/25/trump-has-been-shouting-what-wikileaks-has-proven-through-hard-evidence-meet-the-man-behind-the-leaks/

  • I am TALKING about the direct analysis of the studies that are outlined in that analysis. The analysis itself was done by someone that did nothing but make that analyses.

    I can not even imagine a dumber and more ignoring the evidence in this analysis, than a claim like this one. So you are saying that the evidence of flawed study designs, the use of unreliable data, the evidence of predetermined outcomes unsupported by the data, and as well major conflicts of interest in the studies funding sources make for good science and that is how science works? Really?

    Do you realize that it would not make a difference if the outcome of those studies found no vaccine connection, or a direct vaccine connection; it is still junk science, regardless. That is NOT how science works, and you are now again claiming that any study finding no link is in your mind to be automatically assumed to be correct, and regardless of how poorly done it was. Do you even realize the complete B.S. that you just replied with?

    Your statement:

    [ Further they try to “prove” their point by pointing out flaws in studies that show no link. That is not how science works, ]

    Here is the other data and which these studies support and as well some of them even replicate the findings of Andrew Wakefield’s known 1998 Lancet study. This is a long list of studies so if you don’t like one or two, there are plenty more and with multiple different sources and authors.

    Callous Disregard – Research
    http://www.callous-disregard.com/research.htm

  • Thomas Mohr

    Lowell, the fact alone that you cite tons of Wakefield shows you have no idea how science works. Even if it would have been carried out correctly, the Wakefield study encompassed way too few patients to have enough power. Again, where are the data linking MMR to autism ?

  • Billy Briggs

    “…clearly no one has to prove that…”

    You, Mr Hubbs, have to prove that. You have failed.

    “…and Gorski at the very least quite obviously knew what was going on.”

    Now you’re trying to scurry away by moving the goal posts, but you’ve just dug a deeper hole for yourself.

    “It appears to me that the investigation is not done yet, and more information may turn up as time goes on.”

    Translation: you can’t prove any of your claims but you hope someone else will. You can’t even prove there is an investigation.

    The rest of your post is just childish foot stomping.

    And you avoided my question – do you agree with Mikey at Natural News that Fata owned the Karmanos Cancer Center?

  • I do NOT cite tons of Wakefield. i do not need to. You ignorfed just loads of good studies that had nothing to do with Wakefield. Nobody even cares about the Wakefield study anymore; and it has progressed for information so much further than that initial study.

    You obviously do not know how science works, and real science and finding truth, does not start with a twisted and majorly biased mind like yours is.

    You as well just had a list of what must be near to 100 studies supporting and as well several studies replicating the findings of the 1998 Lancet study. And you walk away from like that as if you see nothing. People like you are simply very sick You are a flat out twisted liar; and I quite clearly proved that right here You simply will not give up on your brainwashed level of denial.

  • No Mr Brigs, clearly no one has to prove that at all, (in regard to if or not Fata owned Wayne States main cancer center) and to show they were working together, or connected., Gorski at the very least quite obviously knew what was going on, and with Fata.

    No one attempted to move any goal posts, but you.

    In speaking of further investigation taking place (by the attorney generals office); I was not speaking of Gorski’s the evidence of Gorski’s knowledge of what was going on and his connection to Fata, which has been made obvious here. I was speaking directly about the evidence of them investigating him and others, and eventual and possible prosecution. Those are obviously separate issues. In your mind unless there exists evidence of Gorski’s prosecution, then you can still deny he had any connection at all. You know that is what you are claiming, and you know it.

  • Thomas Mohr

    “I do NOT cite tons of Wakefield”. You do. Have you ever counted how many papers of your link (http://www.callous-disregard.com/research.htm) are linked to Wakefield or list him as co-author.

  • James Peters

    Noakes was operating out of Guernsey and if you read the link I added then the CEO of Efranat Uri Yogev stated the following: “Because this is a molecule that appears naturally in the body, the patent does not involve the material; it refers only to the production process. It was therefore easy to bypass it, and it is easy for all sorts of people around the world to sell promises that Yamamoto himself did not make. For example, one doctor set up a company in Guernsey Island that markets containers allegedly containing the material. We bought one of his containers, and couldn’t find the molecule in it. We’re keeping our distance from these people. We just want to produce and test the material according to the rules.”

    Prof. Yamamoto PhD assigned all of his GcMAF related patents to Efranat https://www.google.com/patents/EP2694088A1 and went to Israel together with Prof. Ueda PhD to work and improve their version of it which the company are calling EF-022 http://efranat.com/About-Us/The-legacy-of-Efranat.aspx The company now produces it at the facilities of Kamada, which are FDA-approved.

    As for cannabis then they can patent extraction and delivery methods. They can also patent synthesizing methods too. GW Pharma have a number of patents https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbo=p&tbm=pts&hl=en&q=inassignee:”Gw+Pharma+Limited on the natural occurring cannabinoids. Also many others have patents on synthesized versions which have the same chemical structure as the natural version. Synthetic cannabinoids do exist and many were created by Profs. Mechoulam and Huffman. Many of these have a far higher affinity for either the CB1 and/or 2 receptors along with being many times more potent than natural forms and having an extended duration of action. So you can take natural chemicals and make them better http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27096053

  • That is actually irrelevant, and as well I did not put that list of studies together. What you see on that list is only about 10% of the total studies on that long list, that were connected Wakefield, and many other co-authors. Why do you feel that you can disregard all the others studies which are not connected to Wakefield, and just because Wakefeild’s connected to studies were also on the list? Actually all of those additional studies even when connected to Wakefield, give his 1998 Lancet study even more value credibility, and not less.

    So again why have you simply disregard all the rest of those studies? And you are going to tell me that you know how science works. As to your biased disregard of supporting studies by other authors and sources; are you tell me that is also how science works; and in a required disregarding any and all other studies on that list ,and,just because the name Wakefield appears on the same studies list? That is how science works? No it does not.

    You said that you worked 20 years as a scientist. So what did you do, only allow to be considered the studies that agreed with your agenda and needed study outcome? I don’t think you were ever any scientist, and as well your replies are straight from the deny it all vaccine shill text book that is seen posted from continually on the articles of this site.

  • If what you state is true regarding cannabis oil, (CBD); they would have already had a working product in clinical trials, and which is alone showing very good outcomes. They do not

    [Also many others have patents on synthesized versions which have the same chemical structure as the natural version]

    No they do not.

    [Many of these have a far higher affinity for either the CB1 and/or 2 receptors along with being many times more potent than natural forms and having an extended duration of action]

    No they are not.

    [So you can take natural chemicals and make them better]

    No you can not, and that is a lie. Nothing has ever worked better than the natural cannabis oil; and nothing ever will.

    So you post all that BS, and in the hopes of ignoring as well the success that Bradstreet and Noakes were having with actual GcMAF, and all by itself. In your mind they are quacks and only big pharma can do it right Let me know when they have a product that works as well as what Noakes uses yet today? Oh that’s right, you refuse to believe that what they were doing, worked at all.

  • PHYTOCANNABINOIDS IN THE TREATMENT OF CANCER

    This invention relates to the use of phytocannabinoids, either in an isolated form or in the form of a botanical drug substance (BDS), as a prophylactic or in the treatment of cancer. Typically the cancer to be treated is a cancer of the: prostate, breast, skin, glioma, colon, lung or a bone or lymph metastasis. The phytocannabinoids may be used in combination with other cancer treatments.

    http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=20130059018.PGNR.%2F

  • Billy Briggs

    You said Gorski and Fata worked together – you’ve posted no proof.
    You said Gorski knew what Fata was doing – you’ve posted no proof.
    You said there’s an ongoing investigation of Gorski – you’ve posted no proof.
    You said you fact-checked NN’s article claiming Fata owned the Karmonas Cancer Center where Gorski worked – you’ve posted no proof.
    Do you see the pattern here?

  • James Peters

    Patents are no more than a number of claims which have yet to be proven. This patent was taken out by GW Pharma who along with Cancer Research UK are running two Phase I trials in recurrent glioblastoma multiforme (NCT01812603 & NCT01812616). Two other trials are ongoing in brain and solid tumours using a synthetic cannabinoid derivative. The results of these should be published near the end of this year. Some time next year GW should start trials using this for either breast and/or prostate cancer. There aren’t a huge number of trials as the preclinical studies and the only published human one to date http://www.nature.com/bjc/journal/v95/n2/full/6603236a.html don’t show a huge amount of promise.

  • Do you even read your own sources? Generally, it’s not very convincing to cite an article that explicitly states that you are wrong, then offers arguments and evidence against your position.

  • Thomas Mohr

    You do. Look at how many papers refer to Wakefield and/or have him as a coauthor. So where are your studies linking MMR and autism ?

  • James Peters

    I’m not talking about cannabis oil, but the cannabinoids. As I’ve said many of the synthetic cannabinoids in preclinical models of cancer work better than natural http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475304 but most of the results simply aren’t good enough to go from mice to humans.

    I won’t bore you with the ins and outs of Ad-RTS-IL-12 but in a preclinical study using this and the activating drug veledimex then 50% of the non-humans that received it were alive and tumour free at the end of the study http://neuro-oncology.oxfordjournals.org/content/17/suppl_5/v113.3.full Then in another preclinical study they found that the combo of Ad-RTS-IL-12 and an anti-PD-1 drug was superior to either treatment alone and the combination showed a 100% survival rate http://www.abstractsonline.com/pp8/#!/4077/presentation/575

    Now a human trial is ongoing (NCT02026271) using Ad-RTS-IL-12 + veledimex for 14 consecutive days. For patients who have experienced multiple recurrences the prognosis is particularly
    poor, with a median overall survival (OS) of 6-7 months, while OS in patients that have failed temozolomide
    and bevacizumab, or equivalent salvage chemotherapy, is approximately 3-5 months http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1764056 http://www.neurology.org/content/73/15/1200.long The company behind it have released some data from the ongoing trial and it looks pretty encouraging https://s32.postimg.org/eixwti6t1/g221546ex99_1s19g1.jpg I know they will be starting another trial soon using this along with an anti-PD-1 drug.

    Also last year a few preclinical studies were conducted using a STING agonist http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25959818 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25877890 and based on this Aduro got a nine-figure check from the Swiss drug giant Novartis http://www.xconomy.com/san-francisco/2015/03/30/novartis-bets-250m-plus-on-aduros-immuno-oncology-work/# It’s now in a Phase I trial (NCT02675439).

    All these and more show far more promise which is why they have been translated to human trials the quickest.

  • Ron Roy

    ”no idea how science works.”Another pro-vax sound bite. You guys all read from the same script.

  • Thomas Mohr

    Ronnyboy, your claim, your burden of proof, period. Oh, i forgot, you can’t even spell miseducation.

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  • Jonathan Graham

    Bayes theorem is used in hypothesis testing. So when evaluating the hypothesis that “no one has ever moved the goal posts, more than you” we have to look at the evidence. You have presented zero evidence, and make up all sorts of fantasies about why you won’t/can’t/whatever. However we also have to evaluate is the hypothesis that you’re incorrect. Since the outcome you are presenting – that is no evidence – is consistent with the outcome that you are incorrect Bayes Rule and the law to total probability demand that we increase the likelihood of the hypothesis that you are incorrect. The more pervasive you claim the evidence is – but still provide none – the stronger you make the likelihood that you are incorrect.

    I can explain further if this is lost on you.

  • James Peters

    The lesser of two evils is still evil. I still can’t believe how anyone could vote for either Clinton or Trump. There are other choices like Gary Johnson or Dr. Jill Stein or simply not voting at all.

  • Can you imagine choosing to divert a train onto a track with one person on it instead of a track with five people on it? :-P

  • tempest

    Sorry, banned by the churchy for three days on the other thread.

    I talk to so many people at the same time I lose track sometimes. Sincerest apologies.

  • Mrs Hudes, why are you asking Ken. S? He is neither a mod or admin here as shown by his name being devoid of a little box labelling him as such therefore his answer will likely be ‘I don’t know’.

  • KarenHudes

    Have you ever heard of rhetorical questions?

  • Yup. Do you know how vactruth works?

  • Herbert West

    Yes, and in police state we all need to be concerned, even the likes of you pushing these products.

  • I already know what it is and in its full description. The term is entirely irrelevant in regard to the issue we are talking about. How about if you just simply limit yourself today to posting on the current article. Your level of stupidity and denial on every level, is simply unmatched. You have some close competitors here, but your level of deception and evil, simply top it all. I am sure you are immensely proud of that.

    Vactruth knocks the ball out of the park again with another vaccine truth article. Trolling vaccine shills again gnashing their teeth as to that they and their denial filled misinformation and lies, can not contain this level of information.

  • Jonathan Graham

    I already know what it is and in its full description.

    Doubtful.

    The term is entirely irrelevant in regard to

    Sorry no. Unless you are trying to say that the phrase “”no one has ever moved the goal posts, more than you” does not assert something. Then it applies. Sorry.

  • Don’t attempt at this point to falsely confuse the issue. I know what you are talking about, and I know what i am talking about.

    The first study shows the success of using the natural form of what exists in cannabis oil, CBD/cannabinoids. Just as I said.

    Second study is the study of the product, Veledimex in mice and appears to have had success in mice, Regnized as what they call immunotherapy approach for glioma therapy. What does this have to do with cannbinoids?

    Third study, another study as to the administration of Veledimex in mice, and in the treatment of glioma.

    Studies 4,5, and 6 again look at the study of Veledimex as to a clinical trial in humans. They compare conventional treatment to their considered new and innovative treatment. They live two months longer. With cannabis oil, CBD, people get a complete reversal and remission of their cancer; and you can make cannabis oil right in your kitchen if it were legalized. I am sure you are still expecting me to be impressed with your pharmaceutical so called immuno-therapy product, but of course that would be foolish.

    The subject matter here was one where I expressed that attempts to create a synthetic or altered version of cannabis oil has not been successful to this point, and any such attempt has been found to have added side effects not present with the natural form, and as well a much lower efficacy. You told me that you had evidence of the success of these altered attempts to recreate the same therapeutic effect, instead of failure. To this point you have not produced that. Instead you took off on a tangent in which you want readers to think you were showing that, and when in fact you were not.

    As for the gov.uk link, they make unfounded accusations which have never proven any contamination existed, and nor that in testing the product that any was found. The article states there are concerns that the product may be contaminated, but obviously with all the product they wrongfully confiscated, they had the opportunity to test it and obviously no contamination was found

    It states as well that, [Our investigations are ongoing and we have received no reports to date of side effects caused by this product.]

    So indeed it all points to a wrongful search and seizure of the product, and as well fabricated lies as to the condition of that facility.

    Again review what is stated in regard to that, in this video.

    David Noakes: “Governments & Big Pharma Are Colluding To Keep Gc-MAF A Secret!”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy0luU4RF5U

    The old FirstImmune website.
    https://gcmaf.se/old/

    The new FirstImmune website, and where they are selling the product.
    https://gcmaf.se/

    How do you explain that?

  • You have already had that information put in front of you, and you deliberately ignored it. How many studies did you find in that references page link? If all you are going to do is lie and attempt to misrepresent it all, then you are simply wasting my time in even reading your replies and/or replying. Get to posting on the last two current articles. Why are you unable to do that? Is it to much truth for you?

  • Thomas Mohr

    Lowell, you presented an argumentation why the studies not finding a link between MMR and autism are flawed. They looked at the single studies but not at the whole picture. Let me put it in simple English for you: If a bunch of studies doesn’t find an association there is none, regardless of bias. Or, even simpler: With an effect of that size if you don’t find something in 16 studies, it does not make sense to look for the baby in the thrown away bathing water. Heck, even the infamous whistleblower study didn’t find anything. Get used to it.

  • I read ALL of my sources, and fact check the same.

    You did not provide a link to the interview, of your own; so I simply did a search for the FOX interview and found one that appears to be the complete interview, and that segment was not found in it. So why did you not provide this link in your first post?

    ‘You have to take out their families’ What part of that do you disagree with, and why? I do not disagree with that at all. To oppose that shows that you do not have even basic understanding of what goes on in that situation. Any place that you have that kind of ISIS component, it simply breeds more and more of the same from it and of course from their families. The recruiting drive has already been initiated by simply the act of killing ISIS terrorists in itself. This is war, and not all is necessarily fair in war, and even though it is essential Is ISIS fighting fair? You are delusional on every level.

  • Killing somebody solely because they are related to another person is murder. If I stabbed a criminal’s brother to death, I’d be a murderer. If I dropped a bomb onto a home because an enemy’s wife and children live there, I’d be a murderer, too.

  • As well you can not get a patent for a product such as that, without studies and in proving that your patent has a significant level of merit.

    That linked to study as well appears to have nothing directly to do with the patent above that I referenced to. In fact the study is not even using the form of CBD in the patent application. So where do you come up with that? The pharmaceutical company in Japan as well is not even listed in the study.

    As I said, using a synthetic cannabinoid derivative has not been successful no matter what has been treated with it, and with side affects that the natural form has never had. You had one initial study posted where the natural form was used and with success in cancer treatment. Why are you not comparing such studies?

    You don’t even know what you are talking about. The study you posted here, did not use any form of actual cannabis oil, or actual CBD in any form that could be claimed to be an equivalent. They used THC and which is an entirely different chemical from the plant.

    Here is an excerpt from the study you just posted:

    [Here we report the first clinical study aimed at assessing cannabinoid antitumoral action, specifically a pilot phase I trial in which nine patients with recurrent glioblastoma multiforme were administered THC intratumoraly. The patients had previously failed standard therapy (surgery and radiotherapy) and had clear evidence of tumour progression. The primary end point of the study was to determine the safety of intracranial THC administration. We also evaluated THC action on the length of survival and various tumour-cell parameters. A dose escalation regimen for THC administration was assessed. Cannabinoid delivery was safe and could be achieved without overt psychoactive effects.]

  • I can clearly see a pattern of your denial and lying. Nothing would be enough evidence for you, and short of Gorski’s prosecution. Just face it and admit it.

  • Here again you claim to that there is evidence of chemically synthetic alterations of CBD that are as good or better than cannabis oil containing cannabinoids. You used this study as evidence, but this study involves the issue of neuroprotectants, and does not even begin to look at the comparable issues and outcome in the treatment of cancer.

    ACS Med Chem Lett. 2016 Feb 10;7(4):424-8. doi: 10.1021/acsmedchemlett.6b00009. eCollection 2016.
    Discovery of KLS-13019, a Cannabidiol-Derived Neuroprotective Agent, with Improved Potency, Safety, and Permeability.

    Abstract excerpt – Herein, we describe a series of side chain modified resorcinols that were designed for greater hydrophilicity and “drug likeness”, while varying hydrogen bond donors, acceptors, architecture, basicity, neutrality, acidity, and polar surface area within the pendent group. Our primary screen evaluated the ability of the test agents to prevent damage to hippocampal neurons induced by ammonium acetate and ethanol at clinically relevant concentrations. Notably, KLS-13019 was 50-fold more potent and >400-fold safer than cannabidiol and exhibited an in vitro profile consistent with improved oral bioavailability.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27096053

    Perhaps you did not know that the US Gov’t and its Health Services have received the patent on cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants. Numerous studies were done as listed and included in acquiring that patent.

    United States Patent 6,630,507
    Hampson , et al. October 7, 2003
    Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants

    Abstract
    Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease and HIV dementia. Nonpsychoactive cannabinoids, such as cannabidoil, are particularly advantageous to use because they avoid toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses useful in the method of the present invention. A particular disclosed class of cannabinoids useful as neuroprotective antioxidants is formula (I) wherein the R group is independently selected from the group consisting of H, CH.sub.3, and COCH.sub.3. ##STR1##

    http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN/6630507

  • Billy Briggs

    “Nothing would be enough evidence for you…”
    “Nothing” describes the evidence you’ve given us for each of your allegations.

  • You know what? I am getting beyond sick and tired of your relentless stupidity and in the refusal to give it up, when I clearly am not wrong and have not been wrong. Nothing is ever enough. Which source proves me wrong, and in regard to exactly what? The said Trump issue in regard to ISIS, is a matter of opinion, and everyone has an opinion. The opinions in this case, do not explain that I am wrong. No one sitting on that FOX panel and/or any other critique source as to his claims, have as well likely ever fought in any war, and much more against the real ISIS. They are not experts, but simply people filling their schedule attempting to address recent political controversy.

  • And again you continue to stick your head right back in the sand hole of denial. It is actually you that refuses to look at the whole picture.

    Again, here is the analysis. In those studies it was found repeatedly, flawed study designs, the use of unreliable data, obviously predetermined conclusions not supported by the data, and major issues of conflict of interest in the studies funding sources. Repeatedly this was found. So therefore as to your so called science, you have nothing, just face it. My guess is that you never even took the time to read through that analysis, and because you think you already know it all. Just admit that you never read it.

    It should be appalling to you that they got away with this level of fraud and corruption. Instead, you simply ignore it.

    VACCINES AND AUTISM – WHAT DO EPIDEMIOLOGICAL
    STUDIES REALLY TELL US?
    http://www.rescuepost.com/files/vaccines-and-autism-epidemiology-rebuttal.pdf

    So again, the epidemiological studies are nothing but unreliable junk science. There are no existing safety studies as to the current CDC schedule. No safety studies in regard the common practice of giving a small child from 5 and up to 9 or more vaccines in a single day and office visit. There are no safety studies adequately showing the safety profile of vaccine aluminum adjuvants. There are no safety studies showing the safety of known vaccine contamination. And there are no large scale studies, or any studies that have been done at all, and which the CDC accepts in regard to vaccinated verses unvaccinated health outcomes.

    And you say all the needed vaccine safety study research is in, and vaccines remain to be proven as safe and effective. And you yet do not see any larger hole in that thinking, and belief? You refuse to.

  • If you actually read them, you wouldn’t need to ask. I’m not going to tell you which of the links you gave explicitly refutes the claim you thought it supported. Instead, I’ll let this stand as evidence that you are either a liar or a spectacularly bad reader. You can blubber on about how you’re never wrong, but the facts speak for themselves.

    If you don’t think the murder of noncombatants is wrong, I don’t know what to tell you.

  • Also, do you actually believe ISIS exists and isn’t actually a secret false flag government conspiracy? I’m a bit surprised.

  • Well then just keep on lying, refusing evidence, and making it up as you go. Gorski is a complete scum bag, and like no other. He holds the literal crown as one of the most deceptive misinformation promoting liars, ever known.

  • So you can’t actually respond to my post, and you simply divert and subvert it with a comment like that?

  • So again you are refusing to answer my question which was asked in my post. Then you additionally have the audacity to falsely claim to and call me a liar and a bad reader. The only person blubbering here is you, and in further exposing that all you are doing is playing games.

  • The evidence of your goal posts moving is found anywhere that you have ever reply posted on these articles. Just face it.

  • It’s not false. You are either a liar or an exceptionally bad reader. Look at the last three links in https://disqus.com/home/discussion/vactruth/how_congress_allowed_vaccine_manufacturers_to_dismantle_the_constitution_in_one_thousand_words_or_le/#comment-2805819043 and try to figure out which one says that you’re wrong before you even scroll down the page.

  • Judging from how you believe it’s a government conspiracy every time your shoelaces come untied, I find it surprising that you would believe the official story about ISIS.

  • Nikka80

    Why do you continue to use the term “Truth” instead of “information that reflects the current scientific and medical consensus based on the preponderance of current verifiable evidence”?

  • Those are again just more false accusations and a false personal attack. Any opponent you have must be falsely branded as crazy and inept to the point of not even as much as realizing reality enough to ascertain if or not the earth is still revolving around the sun. The issue for you is that you refuse to realize and comprehend that-that false effort is only destroying your own credibility.

    The only existing question is how much funding did ISIS get directly or indirectly from our own gov’t and in its early politically used against other counties, inception and training. If ISIS was not real, certainly that would have and could have been determined on multiple levels by now; and not hidden.

  • Says the guy who presents evidence against the very claims he’s making.

  • Says the guy that was just asked for a direct example and proof of that claim, and could not come up with anything.

    Considering the severity of the brain injury that you obviously have had, and put forth evidence of in photos, I think you should just simply discontinue your reply posting. You may not realize it but it is evident in every reply post that you make.

  • KarenHudes

    Only from my experience in commenting on this one article.

  • Since when is the term Truth, considered as a definitive dead end term?

    Most people already realize what the so called current scientific and medical consensus is. What I put forth goes to the independent information, the independent data, and the independent and unbiased studies, and to show directly why the known general consensus is wrong. We do not need to spend any more time on your said general consensus. We already know what that puts forth and what that involves.

    You can chose to limit yourself to only that said and alleged consensus; however you have no right to insist on that others to do the same. Meanwhile 1000’s more will continue to be vaccine harmed and injured, and as well many more infants will die due to vaccines. Again, you can chose to deny that and as well to continue to rely on and accept your general consensus, but 1000’s of parents through realized vaccine injury of their own child, and individuals through their own independent research, have and are continuing to become aware of the real vaccine truth. And as much as you obviously despise the word and term known as, “TRUTH’.

  • You are simply playing games again. I do not need to prove you as correct, you need to prove yourself as correct. Do you not even see how twisted your mind is? I am as well obviously neither a liar, or a bad reader.

  • Nikka80

    Are you referring to absolute or relative truth?

  • JGC

    ” What I am doing is offering misinformation on making the correct choices.”
    Fxed that for you, Lowell

  • JGC

    Lowell, what evidence demonstrates that what you believe to be true actually is true–i.e., that the risk associated with routine childhood vaccination exceeds the risk associated with remaining vulnerable to the infectious diseases they protect against?

  • JGC

    You’ve got the wrong correlation–it isn’t vaccines, it’s sales and consumption of GMO foods

  • Both, and as both are applicable to the vaccine issue, and as well to many other issues.

  • Wrong, and you have only considered one side of the information, and you have obviously refused all independent and unbiased information. Therefore you are unable to properly determine the risk verses any benefits, outcome.

  • You have no evidence of offering misinformation. There, fixed that for you, JGC; a person with no real identity. See if you can actually make a post that offers something of substance to support and defend your position. Simply spewing and parroting only more of the well known false vaccine propaganda, simply will not cut it here. You actually need to address and refute directly the information in the post, put forth by others.

  • JGC

    “Wrong” in what regard-are you arguing that I’m wrong to ask you to support your claims with evidence?

    As to having obviously refused “all independent and unbiased information”, I haven’t had a chance to since you haven’t responded to my question by identifying any.

    Tell you what, Lowell: I’ll make it as easy as possible for you to respond with evidence in support your position: simply indicate what in your personal opinion represents the single most credible and compelling piece of evidence demonstrating the risk associated with routine childhood vaccination exceeds the risks associated with remaining vulnerable to the infectious diseases they protect against and we’ll discuss it.

  • I narrowed it down to the links given in a single comment, and specified that you don’t even have to scroll down the page. I guess you’re lazy, too.

  • No, as I said you are to lazy to prove your point. You as well now know there was no valid point to be made; and so you continue to simply play your childish, idiotic, and antagonistic games.

  • If you are unwilling to read the 100’s of reply posts i have already made on this sites articles and to determine that, then do not expect me to make you personally a post that would need to be a mile long. You are simply playing falsely antagonistic games.

  • JGC

    I’ve read hundreds of your replies: in none have I seen you provide actual evidence demonstrating that the risks associated with routine childhood vaccination exceed the risks associated with remaining vulnerable to infectious diseases.

    And the post could NOT be a mile long–I’m asking you to identify what you believe to be the single most credible and compelling piece of evidence in support of that position. It could consist solely of a single article citation.

  • I have supported every claim I have made, with evidence, so quit ignoring it and lying about it. Go to my known website as well.

    And again you are playing more antagoinistic games in a request for a single piece of evidence, when the evidence is contained in the bigger picture of an endless number of references, data, and independent scientific studies. I am not playing your attempted literally censoring all of the information, game. You people are just massively in denial, sick.

  • And you are a liar.

  • The article explains away that 5 out of 47 people can be explained as to their death clearly not a murder. I did not put together that list, but likely there are many people yet on that list that the Clinton connection is yet questionable, and will likely never be proven one way or the other.

    The article does not discredit any of the the other people on that list as being shown or proven as incorrectly being there on that list. Although the article also makes the attempt to claim to that it all would have been impossible to do, the article actually made no valid or substantiated claims as to how or why the Clinton’s could not have pulled it off.

  • We are here regarding the vaccine injuries of thousands of children and as well with resulting autism. We are here regarding the vaccine caused death of infants. We are here because of that and to create awareness in regard to the many truths regarding vaccines on multiple levels. And you say you are here having fun. This is not a form of entertainment. It is a serious issue, and the articles here on this site are a very important resource of information in an attempt to educate the public to the very real risks of vaccines.

  • I posted there on that article, and did a good job, and just as well as several others. It must really suck to live in your world so full of delusions.

  • And yet the fact remains that you cited a page about urban legends that specifically stated that you’re wrong. You sick, twisted puppy, you.

  • I’m talking about karaoke, goober. That’s what the comment was about, not lying shills perpetrating a fraud against parents.

  • “Yee old delusional man, if you only
    had the required and needed wit.
    But O you yet remain a most lamentable
    man, making denial of every vaccine fact.
    You never had a real teacher and in the
    science of human health.
    One day you will look in the murky waters
    of a mud puddle and see your reflection
    looking back, and ask yourself how could
    I have lived and been such a miserable
    and self serving ..ASS?”

  • How about if you fact checked it? You know, in regard to your false assumption that it is not real? Your world surrounds nothing but denial and in finding any false claim on earth to make that denial. You continually look for ways to minimize your need of ever actually focusing on the truth.

  • Oh, and here’s some more of the 47:

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp

  • Billy Briggs

    “Well then just keep on lying, refusing evidence…”
    Yet you have offered no evidence to refuse, Mr Hubbs.

  • Jonathan Graham

    And the likelihood that you’re telling the truth becomes more remote with each of of those posts. Mathematically speaking.

  • Thomasboy,

    Doctors and Scientists with Concerns About Vaccines
    http://www.greatergoodmovie.org/news-views/doctors-and-scientists-with-concerns-about-vaccines/

    DOCTORS AGAINST VACCINES – HEAR FROM THOSE WHO HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH
    http://www.organiclifestylemagazine.com/doctors-against-vaccines-hear-from-those-who-have-done-the-research

    Friendly Doctors

    We are currently compiling a list of anti-vaccine friendly doctors. This list will include medical doctors, naturopathic doctors, and chiropractors that are equipped and able to take care of all well-child check-ups and physicals. In order to be on this list, the doctor needs to have a clean record of not forcing the “vaccine issue” on their patients, and *DOES NOT* require you to sign anything in order for them to accept your un-vaccinated child.

    http://vaxtruth.org/anti-vaccine-friendly-doctors/

    Archived list of Doctors
    reported to accept patients
    who do not vaccinate
    http://www.vaclib.org/basic/health/novaxdoctors.htm

  • Hope that helps.

    Doctors and Scientists with Concerns About Vaccines
    http://www.greatergoodmovie.org/news-views/doctors-and-scientists-with-concerns-about-vaccines/

    Friendly Doctors

    We are currently compiling a list of anti-vaccine friendly doctors. This list will include medical doctors, naturopathic doctors, and chiropractors that are equipped and able to take care of all well-child check-ups and physicals. In order to be on this list, the doctor needs to have a clean record of not forcing the “vaccine issue” on their patients, and *DOES NOT* require you to sign anything in order for them to accept your un-vaccinated child.

    http://vaxtruth.org/anti-vaccine-friendly-doctors/

    Archived list of Doctors
    reported to accept patients
    who do not vaccinate
    http://www.vaclib.org/basic/health/novaxdoctors.htm

    Have a nice day.

  • Jonathan Graham

    You know, in regard to your false assumption that it is not real?

    As is too much your habit your thinking is barely worth of the term. In reference to the list of doctors given by Ron Roy. I haven’t assumed the names there don’t represent people who have some problem with some vaccines. Math tells us that those people are likely to exist.

    My comment about fact checking is that Ron Roy appears to not care if there is strong evidence for his claims or not. Which makes him unethical in my worldview.

  • You do not need a published study and/or a survey when what is being determined is based on common sense and a review of what exists within the debate on vaccines. For you of course it is only one sided, and there is no other side of the story, and to the issue. What kind of a written survey could you conduct when all doctors know that to speak out about vaccines in any questioning and negative way, puts you at risk of retaliation and if your voiced is strong enough and heard enough, it will eventually result in the loss of your career. How many of them would actually answer any such survey honestly, and then sign their name to it?

    And by the way, Health Impact News is a great publication, and in getting numerous articles out there exposing all of the current issues on vaccines, and to include the major issues regarding the HPV vaccine Gardasil. The article coverage news is as well on a global level of information.

  • And don’t you think you are more than contradicting yourself there? If you know that it is true, and you don’t question it; then why is there need of fact checking and specific sources? How does it make him unethical if you have already agree to the conclusion? So are you yet questioning the number of names on that list, or not? In your obsession it seems more important for you to simply always make a reply post, and no matter how badly you continue to be waffling around. Your warped world view is not worth anything for those looking for truth and honesty.

    Doctors and Scientists with Concerns About Vaccines, (a long list)
    http://www.greatergoodmovie.org/news-views/doctors-and-scientists-with-concerns-about-vaccines/

    DOCTORS AGAINST VACCINES – HEAR FROM THOSE WHO HAVE DONE THE RESEARCH
    http://www.organiclifestylemagazine.com/doctors-against-vaccines-hear-from-those-who-have-done-the-research

    Friendly Doctors

    We are currently compiling a list of anti-vaccine friendly doctors. This list will include medical doctors, naturopathic doctors, and chiropractors that are equipped and able to take care of all well-child check-ups and physicals. In order to be on this list, the doctor needs to have a clean record of not forcing the “vaccine issue” on their patients, and *DOES NOT* require you to sign anything in order for them to accept your un-vaccinated child.

    http://vaxtruth.org/anti-vaccine-friendly-doctors/

    Archived list of Doctors
    reported to accept patients
    who do not vaccinate
    http://www.vaclib.org/basic/health/novaxdoctors.htm

  • And the likelihood that you have never told the truth has been evident since the first post you ever made; and there is of course and obviously no mathematics needed.

  • How many repeated posts are you going to continue to make, and as to your lying about that?

  • Really? And how would Snopes know anything personally about the Clinton’s. Think about it.

    Here is your so trusted Snopes source. “LOL”

    Snopes CEO arrested on charges of fraud and corruption

    LOS ANGELES, CA – Snopes.com owners Barbara and David Mikkelson were detained by police today after an unrelated investigation of a Snopes.com editor lead police onto a paper trail of corruption, bribery, and fraud at the very heart of the fact-checking organization.

    Evidence obtained by police has revealed that Snopes.com, which markets itself as “the definitive Internet reference source for urban legends, folklore, myths, rumors, and misinformation,” has a history of accepting money and favors from left-leaning and pro-Islamic political groups and individuals for helping them to advance their cause by rigging public discourse with selective fact-finding and deliberate manipulation of public opinion.

    Read more:
    http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/snopes-com-ceo-arrested-on-charges-of-fraud-and-corruption-t16805.html

    SNOPES busted – sold favors, slanted opinions

    LOS ANGELES, CA – Snopes.com owners Barbara and David Mikkelson were detained by police today after an unrelated investigation of a Snopes.com editor lead police onto a paper trail of corruption, bribery, and fraud at the very heart of the fact-checking organization.

    Evidence obtained by police has revealed that Snopes.com, which markets itself as “the definitive Internet reference source for urban legends, folklore, myths, rumors, and misinformation,” has a history of accepting money and favors from left-leaning and pro-Islamic political groups and individuals for helping them to advance their cause by rigging public discourse with selective fact-finding and deliberate manipulation of public opinion.

    Read more:
    https://www.survivalmonkey.com/threads/snopes-busted-sold-favors-slanted-opinions.52886/

  • Do not even begin to attempt to deny it. You have stated that is what you do here, and what you intend to do here; and you said that more than once. Even if I took that statement out of the intended context; in fact you have admitted to that.

  • No it does not and as I explained in the previous post. It does not show anyone to be wrong in questioning the number of those 47 deaths, and even if 5 can be explained away as unconnected. You simply refuse to be wrong. And just because of the intent of the article to cast doubt as to the reality of the Clinton’s being involved in the murder of people that can, have, or will expose the truth on them, you simply assume that it has to be correct. That article and as written, does not form the evidence needed for any form of complete exoneration. Just face it.

  • In regard to your claim, and the claim that the risk of so called VPD is much greater than the vaccine injury risk of injecting the multiple vaccines currently on the current CDC vaccine schedule

    I am asking YOU to identify what you believe to be the single most credible and compelling piece of evidence in support of that and your position. It could consist solely of a single article citation. I have posted loads of reference material here on the article ages of this site; now I want you to end your hypocrisy and provide the same thing that you ask for.

  • You probably should have replied to one of those comments, then. Instead, you chose to be a sick, twisted liar and misrepresent the one you replied to. Don’t try to deny it.

  • The article, as written, asserts that you are wrong. No matter what disgusting contortions you perform, the fact is that you cited a source declaring that you are wrong. That’s a fact.

  • As I replied in my previous post. I want you to provide the single most credible and compelling piece of evidence demonstrating that the vaccine injury risk associated with the number of vaccines on the current CDC vaccine schedule, do not that risk exceed the risks of acquiring the so called VPD the vaccines are assumed to protect from? Lets put it on a level playing field.

  • You’ve simply repeated a hoax published on a humor site. Brian Williston did not assault anybody at a flea market, no sheet of donors was recovered by police, and the Mikkelsons were not arrested. It was a hoax. Made up. Fake. And you bought it hook, line, and sinker.

    Do you also believe the entire Secret Service resigned?
    http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/secret-service-admits-flaws-resigns-t18221.html

  • Billy Briggs

    What have I lied about, Mr Hubbs? You’ve not provided evidence to back up any of your 4 assertions. Remember those? Gorski worked with Fata? Gorski at least knew what Fata was doing? Gorski is being investigated? Fata owned the Karmonas Cancer Center? I’ll keep posting until you prove or retract your accusations.

  • Wrong. What any article asserts does not ever make it correct. Just because an article asserts that something is wrong, does not automatically make for the evidence that makes the articles claim true. To make an assertion, does not automatically make the assertion true, and without a viable level of evidence. Obviously you have an issue with the definition of terms, and which is often the first tactic used by the loser of an argument that has nothing left to stand on. Those are the facts.

  • Jonathan Graham

    ROFL.

  • Maybe he read a story on a parody site?

  • I actually in that reply did not misrepresent what I stated. What I actually stated was true, and that in regard to your previously stated intentions here.That obviously does not qualify for the dirt and the outright slander that you are attempting to throw at me.

  • Billy Briggs

    Or heard voices? I’m starting to wonder.

  • You are a sick, twisted, squirmy liar.

  • I didn’t say that the article is automatically correct, you slimy worn. You were automatically a sloppy fool to use it to make exactly the opposite of the argument actually made on the page.

  • You lied about that there was no evidence for the Gorski and Fata connection, and that they worked in the same associated medical complex, in the field of cancer. So therefore Gorski had to have known Fata, and as well what was going on. Do you actually think and maintain that with something that major and not only wrong, but illegal going on regarding Fata, that Gorski did not know, and that he was simply oblivious to it all? Really? You can not even admit to as much as that they worked in the same connected complex and associated facility. The articles directly pointed that out, and if you read them.

    I am not going back and reposting all of the articles that I previously posted for you, and nor am I going to rehash through it all again for you. Like I said, nothing short of Gorski being prosecuted and convicted is ever going to be enough evidence for you.

  • Billy Briggs

    Mr Hubbs, the only links you’ve provided are from Mike Adams at Natural News. Let’s just start with your first assertion (Gorski and Fata worked together). Other than Mike Adams saying so, why do you believe that? Please be very specific.

  • The entire Secret Service did not resign, only the President of the Secret Service, resigned. People would certainly have a right to ask how business is conducted then.

    And you focus on only one person, and source. The public has a right to question all this, and that does not make anyone simply some whack job conspiracy theorist, and as you are repeatedly contending.

    Another Clinton Associate Found DEAD, Bill & Hillary’s Body Count Increases!
    http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/another-clinton-associate-found-dead-bill-hillarys-body-count-increases/

    The 47 Clinton Friends Who Mysteriously Turned Up Dead (Pt. 1)
    http://lidblog.com/47-dead-clinton-friends-pt1/

    ‘Death list’ and IRS ravaged ‘women of Clinton’
    http://www.wnd.com/2016/01/death-list-and-irs-ravaged-women-of-clinton/

    AS YOU LOOK AT THE BELOW LIST OF DEAD PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CLINTON’S, YOU WILL SEE MANY “ALLEGED” SUICIDES!
    http://silenceisconsent.net/the-list-of-dead-people-associated-with-the-clintons/#sthash.vO2gucos.dpuf

  • kfunk937

    Spam. Unethical, illegal and dangerous spam at that. Reported, flagged and downvoted accordingly. Why not go back to haunting off-topic FB threads with the rest of the organ sales ghouls and scammers?

  • The article I showed you says that the entire Secret Service resigned, not just the head. This is from the same source that says that Williston and the Mikkelsons were arrested. Do you believe that it’s telling the truth about the Secret Service?

  • I already told you the article does not state that the entire Secret Service, quit. The article does no specify anything more than that the President of the agency had resigned. There is no evidence for anything more than that. Certainly there are back up plans for leadership when and if for any reason the President of the agency can not serve in their position.

  • …wow. You genuinely cannot read.

  • Mark

    Big surprise, i disagree. Your lack of statistical knowledge, hampers your ability to understand how one could conduct studies wanted. It would not be hard to do retrospective case control studies on suspected vaccine injuries. If it is a well designed study, then other MD would be interested and would challenge it, but they would not censor an MD or cause a loss of career.
    The problems is that none of us believe in vaccine injury on a large scale and that is why this study is not done.
    This is where the problem with you lies…you say “what kind of written survey could you conduct”….a written survey is not evidence and that is why when someone tries to present this as evidence, science based believers will attack.

  • What a complete load of BS. You are full of nothing but lying delusions.

  • JGC

    At this point in time I would consider the IOM’s 2013 report “The Childhood Immunization Schedule and Safety: Stakeholder Concerns, Scientific Evidence, and Future Studies” as the single most comprehensive and compelling piece of evidence demonstrating the risk associated with the current recommended childhood vaccination schedule do not exceed the risks associated with remaining vulnerable to the infectious diseases they protect against. (This of course may change as other studies are conducted, reports issued, etc.)

    Now, before we go any further, please identify what in your opinion is the single most credible and compelling piece of evidence demonstration the risk associated with routine childhood vaccination exceeds the risks associated with remaining vulnerable to the infectious diseases they protect against.

    Or was your question to me simply an attempt to avoid having to answer yourself?

  • JGC

    I’ve done so in another post: at this point in time I’d consider it to be the IOM’s 2013 report “The Childhood Immunization Schedule and Safety: Stakeholder: Concerns, Scientific Evidence, and Future Studies”.

    Now, when can I expect you to actually identify what you consider to be the single most credible and compelling piece of evidence to the contrary so we can discuss it?

  • JGC

    Not at all, I may be mistaken, but I’m not knowingly uttering a false statement.
    And if I am mistaken I’d certainly like to correct my misapprehension–could you indicate in which post you provided actual evidence in support of this claim?

  • JGC

    I’ve seen you do the equivalent of a Gish Gallop referencing a lot of things that either are not evidence or do not support your claim. That’s why I want to begin with the discussion of what you consider to be the single best piece of evidence that does so. If it’s valid–actually dose support your position–I’ll need to consider it in the context of all other evidence re: vaccine safety and efficacy.
    Of course, if your best piece of evidence isn’t credible, compelling or accurate, there’d be little reason to consider the second, third, etc. ‘best’ pieces of evidence, would there?

  • JGC

    Lowell, correct me if I am wrong:
    You’ve claimed that a casual association between routine childhood vaccination and the development of autism spectrum and other neurodevelopmental disorders has been shown to exist?
    You’ve claimed that all vaccines are unsafe and/or ineffective?
    You’ve claimed that better nutrition and sanitation are responsible for the decline in the 20th century of the incidence of vaccine preventable diseases like measles?
    You’ve claimed that vaccines can cause the symptoms associated with shaken baby syndrome?

  • All of that is correct except the claim regarding sanitation, and which there are conflicting views on that and which remain yet to be determined as to which is correct.

    Take a look as well at the statements of, and made by Julie Gerberding, former head of the CDC. This is about past court cases settled in the federal vaccine court. Do you have any response to that?

    CDC Chief Admits that Vaccines Trigger Autism
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh-nkD5LSIg&sns=fb

    No conflict of interest, and nothing to see here, folks.

    Merck Announces Appointment of Dr. Julie Gerberding as Executive Vice President for Strategic Communications, Global Public Policy and Population Health
    http://www.mercknewsroom.com/news-release/corporate-news/merck-announces-appointment-dr-julie-gerberding-executive-vice-president

    Former CDC Director Julie Gerberding sells 38,368 shares of Merck Stock for $2.3 Million
    https://healthimpactnews.com/2015/former-cdc-director-julie-gerberding-sells-38368-shares-of-merck-stock-for-2-3-million/

    Former CDC head lands vaccine job at Merck
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-merck-gerberding-idUSTRE5BK2K520091221

    Former head of CDC lands lucrative job as president of Merck vaccine division
    http://www.naturalnews.com/027789_Dr_Julie_Gerberding_Merck.html

  • That right there is direct evidence of your lying. Face it, in honesty you can actually address nothing. If you could, you would have already done so.

  • Talk is cheap and as to your endless posts falsely accusing of what you attempt to. Start providing your counter studies and refute of the information regarding everything I have posted on these pages for information, and study reference material. All you have done so far is personally attempt to antagonize me, distract and disrupt, and as well only continue to throw at it only more of your own mud and poo. Do you get paid to post, and by the number of posts you make? Either you, or your employer obviously do not care if they have any actual substance to them.

  • Unfortunately for you that same IOM report states in it that essentially the needed vaccines studies have yet never been done. That in regard to safety issues of the entire vaccine schedule, and as multiple vaccines given on the same day, etc, and for example. There is a full array of vaccine safety issues that have never been studied regarding the health risk of vaccines. If that was the best you could do, it clearly falls short of the mark needed to show assurances of vaccine safety, and that the risks do not outweigh the alleged benefits. Again, you can not assess the vaccine risks verses benefit ratio unless you fully realize the vaccine harm risk to health, and as well the risks of vaccine injury.

    THE TOP 6 REASONS WHY PARENTS ARE CHOOSING NOT TO VACCINATE THEIR KIDS
    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/02/15/the-top-6-reasons-why-parents-are-choosing-not-to-vaccinate-their-kids/

    Why more vaccines won’t translate to better health
    Dr Jacob Puliyal and Professor BM Hegde
    16 July 2014

    When one gets an infectious disease, by and large, one gets immunity against that infection; sometimes the immunity is lifelong, but in many cases for some time after the first infection. However, the hypothesis that artificial vaccination using various laboratory methods gives complete protection against the disease seems to be based on a shaky foundation. Historically, most infectious disease deaths had fallen significantly long before any vaccination for diseases was introduced. The important changes in sanitation, water supply, good nutrition and education seem to have influenced the fall much more than vaccinations. There are now sporadic reports that recent vaccination against measles and mumps seems to have triggered an epidemic of those diseases significantly in the vaccinated group.

    Read more:
    http://www.moneylife.in/article/why-more-vaccines-wont-translate-to-better-health/38107.html

    10 Signs of a Vaccine Reaction and Damage
    http://my.personalmedicare.com/10-signs-of-a-vaccine-reaction-and-damage/

    Review Article
    Theoretical aspects of autism: Causes—A review
    Helen V. Ratajczak*
    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.3109/1547691X.2010.545086

    125 Research papers supporting Vaccine/Autism Causation
    https://www.scribd.com/doc/220807175/126-Research-Papers-Supporting-the-Vaccine-Autism-Link

    Media Sweetheart Paul Offit’s Vaccine Lies Deconstructed: A Mind-Blowing Interview with Dr. Suzanne Humphries
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/media-sweetheart-paul-offits-vaccine-lies-deconstructed-a-mind-blowing-interview-with-dr-suzanne-humphries/5442110

    Dr. Paul Offit’s Aluminum Deceptions and Academic Misconduct (one very important article, to read)
    http://vaccinepapers.org/dr-paul-offits-aluminum-deceptions-academic-misconduct/

  • Again, that same IOM report states that there are more needed studies, and that the necessary and needed studies have never been done. What they are referring to is studies on multiple vaccines given over time, and as well on the same day and office visit. As well there are an inadequate number of studies in regard to the safety of the vaccine ingredients. Go read your reply posts, your question was already answered. And stop making the same post multiple times, only rewording it.

  • JGC

    There is always a need to continuously monitor and conduct additional studies regarding vaccine safety and efficacy, Lowell. Recommending we continue to dos so does not represent any expression of a lack of confidence in the safety of the recommended childhood vaccines by the report authors.

    What do the authors of the IOM report conclude instead conclude with regard to the safety and efficacy of the recommended routine childhood vaccination schedule?

    The report expresses support for the childhood immunization schedule as
    a tool to protect against vaccine- preventable diseases.

    It recommends using healthcare records data to continue to
    study the safety of vaccines.

    it reconfirms a previous finding by the National Vaccine Advisory Committee that conducting studies requiring some children to receive fewer vaccines than recommended, as would be required to conduct prospective randomized controlled trials, would be unethical.

  • JGC

    I’m not asking for an article cramming all the risks you claim are causally associated with routine vaccination into one article: I’m asking for whatever single article, study or report you believe makes the most credible and compelling case that the risk associated with routine childhood vaccination exceeds that of remaining vulnerable to infection.

    I’ll note none of the multiple links you’ve provided above do so to any degree. (That includes the link to the125 papers that supposedly support a casual association between vaccination and ASD’s found at scribd and everything you’ve linked to from vacfacts.).

  • It does not matter what they conclude, without those needed studies there is clearly no assurance of vaccine safety. Wake up. The IOM is also just another big pharma connected collection of directly serving the politics of pharma, minions.

  • JGC

    As far as I can tell there’s either nothing in your posts to refute, or they offer classic PRATTS (Points Refuted A Thousand Times), like the claim that the 125 papers found at scribd support a causal association between vaccination and ASD’s–surely you’ve been directed to LizDitz’s comprehensive review of these and other papers forming various lists of this sort in the past (http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2013/08/-those-lists-of-papers-that-claim-vaccines-cause-autism-part-1.html)

  • JGC

    In other words

    “The evidence we have now doesn’t count.

    Because I say so.

    It’s only the evidence that we don’t have yet that will count, because of course it will prove me right!”

    That’s really your position?

  • JGC

    What is it you think I can’t address? Offer an example of what you personally consider to be credible evidence demonstrating the risk associated with routine vaccination exceeds that of remaining vulnerable to infection and I’ll gladly address it.

  • The current scientific study evidence available, already does prove me right. The problem is that the CDC is not looking at it, entirely ignoring it; and simply because they have to.

    Face it, and as well that the actually needed vaccine safety studies have never been done. What actually exists is obviously and only nothing but a pile of junk science epidemiological studies, and mass corruption.

  • So instead of actually responding to what exists here; you simply move the topic, and the goal posts. Your link did not work.

  • JGC

    Thank you for providing another classic example of the misinformation regarding vaccine safety you provide, Lowell: Dr. Gerberding has never ‘admitted’ or otherwise stated that vaccines are known to trigger autism.

    From the transcript of her CNN interview with Dr. Gupta (bold for emphasis):

    GUPTA: And one of those 4,900 cases was the case of nine-year- old Hannah Polling, which has been making a lot of news lately. Luckily, we have the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Julie Gerberding here.

    We’re talking a lotabout autism, as you know. I should remind people that the — my understanding is the federal government conceded that vaccines caused her autism like symptoms. First of all, is there a difference? I mean, does she have autism or autism like symptoms? What’s the difference?

    JULIE GERBERDING, DR., CDC DIRECTOR: Well, you know, I don’t have all the facts because I still haven’t been able to review the case files myself. But my understanding is that the child has a — what we think is a rare mitochondrial disorder. And children that have this disease, anything that stresses them creates a situation where their cells just can’t make enough energy to keep their brains functioning normally. Now, we all know that vaccines can occasionally cause fevers in kids. So if a child was immunized, got a fever, had other complications from the vaccines. And if you’re predisposed with the mitochondrial disorder, it can certainly set off some damage. Some of the symptoms can be symptoms that have characteristics of autism.

    GUPTA: Yes, I have a two-and-a-half-year-old and a one-year-old as you know. And you know, you know, you think about this all the time. Are we ready to say right now as things stand that childhood vaccines do not cause autism?

    GERBERDING: What we can say absolutely for sure is that we don’t really understand the causes of autism. We’ve got a long way to go before we get to the bottom of this. But there have been at least 15 very good scientific studies on the Institute of Medicine who have searched this out. And they have concluded that there really is no association between vaccines and autism.

    it should not be necessary at this late date to point out that Hannah Polling never received compensation for developing an autism spectrum disorder? The NVICP instead awarded her compensation for the table injury encephalopathy.

    It is however important to note that in cases where compensation is awarded for table injuries the NVICP makes no finding that the vaccine received actually caused the injuries claimed.

  • JGC

    I’ll check the link and respond momentarily

  • JGC

    What evidence is it exactly that proves you’re right? I keep asking you to identify if , but you’ve yet to do so

  • JGC

    If you have any actual evidence that IOM falsifies the contents or conclusion of the reports they issue to ‘serve the politics of pharma’ please offer it.
    Otherwise, I’m afraid, your argument takes no form other than “Those scientists at the IOM–we all know what they’re like!”

  • That little in denial expose that you referenced to, attempting to refute 125 studies; I have of course seen and read that before.

    All that person does is throw at each and every study, statements like.

    This study does mention autism.

    This study does not address vaccines.

    This paper does not “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”?

    Does this paper “demonstrate that vaccines can cause autism”? No.

    etc..etc.

    At no point does this person ever directly address any of those studies specifically. The short conclusions made are that persons biased opinion only. I know that many of those studies indeed have shown direct vaccine connections to autism. Just because that person writing the article is to inept to actually make a real analysis of those studies, does not diminish the relevance of those studies.

    So what do you have in regard to a refute of that long list of studies? The answer, is absolutely nothing.

  • I did not say that the IOM itself, falsified anything. However they do have the influence of bias, due to the factors I stated. So what is the IOM doing to insure that those needed vaccine safety studies are done, and that report is from several years ago? The answer is obviously, absolutely nothing.

  • If it were possible for you to end your personal denial, and if you opened your eyes to to the content of my reply posts; you would already know and realize the answer. You choose to see nothing.

  • So what you actually did here is censor the conversation and excluded here the actually damming remarks that Gerberding made. You excluded several of the statments Gerberding made, and in directly replying to questions, the contradictory statements that Gerberding made. All of those were directly pointed out in the video of the interview conversation.

    Go and take the time to actually review it.

    CDC Chief Admits that Vaccines Trigger Autism
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh-nkD5LSIg&sns=fb

    .

  • To this point you have actually addressed almost nothing, and here again you are just playing more games. You have had the answer to that question posted here many times. You can address it directly where that information has been posted. Anything less is just more continued and attempted censorship, and as well, antagonization.

  • JGC

    Tell you what, identify one paper from your list at scribd
    that:
    does mention autism
    does address vaccines
    and
    does demonstrate that vaccines can cause ASD’s

    if you believe this criticism is not valid.

    “At no point does this person ever directly address any of
    those studies specifically”

    How does noting, with respect to the second entry on the list at LizDitz, (Tomljenovic and Shaw)

    The authors are plotting ASD incidence in each year
    (1991-2008) against total aluminium content for the pediatric schedule *in that year*.
    Not (as you might expect) the aluminium exposure for the ASD cases
    themselves, according to the pediatric schedules of 6 to 21 years previously, but no, that same year. In effect they are looking for a correlation between the number of people who developed ASD decades earlier, and the number of vaccinations given to other children, in the current year. This is an interesting model of causality!

    fail to directly address that paper specifically?

  • JGC

    How does a request for information become an attempt at censorship, Lowell?

  • JGC

    No–I censored nothing: I simply provided the transcript of the interview to demonstrate that Dr. Gerberding did not admit that vaccines trigger autism as you claimed, but instead note that there exist at least 15 good studies indicating that is not the case, whatever spin the creator’s of the youtube video might wish to give her plain statements notwithstanding.

  • JGC

    What evidence demonstrates the authors of the IOM report are sufficiently ‘influenced by bias’ that that the report conclusions and recommendations are invalid?
    Or are you just doubling down on your “We all know what those IOM scientists are like!” position once again?

  • JGC

    Why not, if those reports all share one or more of those disqualifying characteristics?

    “At no point does this person ever directly address any of those studies specifically.”
    Except that they do–for example, in the very second entry re: Tomljenovic and Shaw.

  • The problem is that the assessment the person makes is literally worthless as to any actual refute of the data. As well in each and every case, all that is ever referenced to are pro-vaccine articles such as in left brain right brain, and Gorski’s misinformation filled, so called science blog. Highly unimpressive. The only references made are to clearly known as non-credible blogging sources, and a few other known minions. It is misinformation sources such as this that keep the vaccine injuries happening, and unabated.

    Any thinking person can see directly through the near to worthless nature of this kind of analysis. The below is what you referred to.

    [the authors are plotting ASD incidence in each year (1991-2008) against total aluminium content for the pediatric schedule *in that year*. Not (as you might expect) the aluminium exposure for the ASD cases themselves, according to the pediatric schedules of 6 to 21 years previously, but no, that same year.

    In effect they are looking for a correlation between the number of people who developed ASD decades earlier, and the number of vaccinations given to other children, in the current year. This is an interesting model of causality!]

  • There is not a single source of information that is directly or indirectly connected to the vested interests in vaccines, that is not biased, or at least potentially biased. We all know what the standing and existing politics as to vaccines, involve. The IOM report is simply based on the current collection of available studies which the CDC and their circles accept. It does not include many independent studies and which were not done by those with vested interests in vaccines. All of that and any other data is largely excluded. Again, you simply do not want to admit, and to face the actual reality of the situation.

  • The video points out Gerberding’s statements and as they were actually made, and as to the questions she was given, face it. And that is not a complete transcript.

    As well, those 15 epidemiological (population based) studies, are not to be considered as good studies, and this well done analysis points that out directly.

    And what did they study in those so called and claimed to larger epidemiological, (population based), vaccine safety studies? In fact they only studied one single vaccine, the MMR; and one single vaccine ingredient, Thimerosal. None of the larger epidemiological studies compared vaccinated to entirely un-vaccinated. None of the studies looked at the safety profile of the entire CDC vaccine schedule. None of those studies as well looked at the safety profile of giving from 5 to up to 9 vaccines or more to and infant or small child, in a single day and office visit.

    Every one of the larger MMR, and Thimerosal epidemiolgical studies were clearly COOKED, for the results, period. Found were the use of flawed study designs, the use of unreliable data, predetermined outcomes unsupported by the data, and as well major conflicts of interest in the studies funding sources. None of the study funding sources were independent and nor unbiased; with all of them having obvious vested interests in vaccines.

    If you don’t believe me, then read the said analysis. This should be simply appalling to the parents of vaccine injured children, and as well those who developed autism after vaccines.

    VACCINES AND AUTISM – WHAT DO EPIDEMIOLOGICAL STUDIES REALLY TELL US?
    http://www.rescuepost.com/files/vaccines-and-autism-epidemiology-rebuttal.pdf

    THERE IS NO (VACCINE DERIVED) HERD IMMUNITY
    https://thereisnoherdimmunity.wordpress.com/

  • Again, because you already have that information in the posts in front of you. Because you expect the entire picture of evidence to be produced in one single study in regard to vaccine caused neuro-inflammation of the brain. I feel that there clearly are many studies (those have been posted here as well), that show directly that said outcome.

    However, to get the entire picture of what goes on with that said neuro-inflammation of the brain, vaccine induced; you need to go to several studies and in which then the entire physiological explanation is arrived at. You demand that it all be contained in a single study. Even though you yourself can not and have not produced one single aluminum adjuvant safety study, showing directly the safety profile of aluminum adjuvants. No actual safety studies, and even more-so looking at the said neuro-inflammation issue, have ever been done So, again what you have here is again in your post is simply and only more false antagonization.

    As well you demand that in one single article and or study, that it be presented with the entire picture of how and why and with evidence, that vaccines are doing more harm than good. And then you want to continue to falsely fear monger about the so called VPD’s. You are being entirely unrealistic; and in your hypocrisy you can not even produce this yourself, and as for the pro-vaccines claimed to safe and effective message agenda. Nothing would ever be good enough for you, and you know that, and it is all to obvious.

  • It fails to address because in this persons nearly incoherent writing ability, and who it appears did not even have the fortitude to attach their own name to the blog; what was stated is clearly a misrepresentation and as to the actual validity of the study.

    When you google that study you can see the left brain right brain and Gorki’s not at all science based blog counter articles come like rabid wolves right in behind it in the listing. All this person did was likely copy the same nonsense that they had written. .

    J Inorg Biochem. 2011 Nov
    Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism?
    Tomljenovic L1, Shaw CA.

    Abstract
    Autism spectrum disorders (ASD) are serious multisystem developmental disorders and an urgent global public health concern. Dysfunctional immunity and impaired brain function are core deficits in ASD. Aluminum (Al), the most commonly used vaccine adjuvant, is a demonstrated neurotoxin and a strong immune stimulator. Hence, adjuvant Al has the potential to induce neuroimmune disorders. When assessing adjuvant toxicity in children, two key points ought to be considered: (i) children should not be viewed as “small adults” as their unique physiology makes them much more vulnerable to toxic insults; and (ii) if exposure to Al from only few vaccines can lead to cognitive impairment and autoimmunity in adults, is it unreasonable to question whether the current pediatric schedules, often containing 18 Al adjuvanted vaccines, are safe for children? By applying Hill’s criteria for establishing causality between exposure and outcome we investigated whether exposure to Al from vaccines could be contributing to the rise in ASD prevalence in the Western world. Our results show that: (i) children from countries with the highest ASD prevalence appear to have the highest exposure to Al from vaccines; (ii) the increase in exposure to Al adjuvants significantly correlates with the increase in ASD prevalence in the United States observed over the last two decades (Pearson r=0.92, p<0.0001); and (iii) a significant correlation exists between the amounts of Al administered to preschool children and the current prevalence of ASD in seven Western countries, particularly at 3-4 months of age (Pearson r=0.89-0.94, p=0.0018-0.0248). The application of the Hill's criteria to these data indicates that the correlation between Al in vaccines and ASD may be causal. Because children represent a fraction of the population most at risk for complications following exposure to Al, a more rigorous evaluation of Al adjuvant safety seems warranted.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22099159

    And here you go again with the pick one study gambit; and you simply are not going to give it up. Again, that is not how it works.

    I have as well given you many studies that entirely support the Tomljenovic and Shaw studies, and as to the same issues. I pick that study and/or any off the other studies they have done. I as well have already supported their studies, with additional studies in multiple posts that I have made here. You can directly address the study, and tell me why the study is incorrect? The analysis in your post that you just presented with, simply doesn't cut it.

  • Jonathan Graham

    Even if the conclusion is, as Lowell now wishes to claim relies on a series of studies i.e. Study A implies vaccines raise IL-6, Study B implies levels of IL-6 identical levels mentioned in Study A result in brain inflammation, Study C implies the type and amount of brain inflammation is strongly correlated with autism.

    Still some subset of those studies are going to be the highest in quality – that is have the greatest likelihood of being correct. Not only that but the conditional probability – the likelihood of all the studies being true and thus our hypothesis being true can never be greater than the likelihood of the single strongest study.

    So even in Lowell’s new convoluted case. It still makes sense to look at the single strongest piece of evidence.

  • Herbert West

    “posted there on that article, and did a good job”—Are you mentally challenged Lowell?

  • shay simmons

    It is known to treat and successfully cure a lot

    Like what? Your video is an advertisement, nothing more.

  • shay simmons

    Mike Adam’s articles nailed it perfectly

    Except that Fata didn’t work for the Karmanos Cancer Center.

  • shay simmons

    What information? You don’t even read your own links.

  • shay simmons

    Those of us that have been in the circles of research

    You do research? I looked for you on Pubmed but didn’t find anything. Do you publish under a different name?

    seen the endless numbers of vaccine injuries from parents,

    Why haven’t you documented this?

  • shay simmons

    All of your claims come from only one source. BTW, when is the Health Deranger going to deliver his “bombshell testimony?”

  • Herbert West

    What Scotus said in Jacobson is irrelevant. You can quote what Scotus said regarding the Dred Scott decision, or countless other flawed rulings. Jacobson was based on a laughable level level of science, and one day will looked upon as the fraudulent ruling that it is.

  • shay simmons

    Because, you meanie, you actually expect him to provide some kind of corroboration!

  • shay simmons

    Did you view the video made of that facility and as to the interview done there. It looks top notch and immaculate.

    A video camera can detect the presence of contaminants?

  • JGC

    Lowell, what’s this obsession with people posting under their own name–how is it in any way relevant? Arguments stand and fall on their own merit, not on the basis of who advances or embraces them.

    And Tomljenovic and Shaw’s argument fails on merit: the evidence in support of their claims that exposure to aluminum adjuvants contribute to the development of ASD’s is nothing more than noting a correlation between increasing ASD prevalence and the increasing number of vaccines in vaccine schedules in various countries.

    Say it with me, Lowelll, I know you can: correlation is not causation.

  • JGC

    Of course it’s not a complete transcript of that day’s program: I excerpted the interview with Dr. Gerberding, since it is her statements that are relevant.

  • JGC

    “There is not a single source of information that is directly or indirectly connected to the vested interests in vaccines, that is not biased, or at least potentially biased. ”

    How have you established that this statement is factually accurate, Lowell? Describe the methodology you used.

    ” We all know what the standing and existing politics as to vaccines, involve.”

    Yes: the reduction of death and suffering due to infectious disease; the successful eradication of diseases like smallpox and polio; prevention of lost productivity due to illness; reduction in the costs expended managing outbreaks and providing medical support for those who become ill with an infectious disease, etc.

    “It does not include many independent studies and which were not done by those with vested interests in vaccines.”

    What independent studies do you believe it does not include but should include, Lowell?

    “Again, you simply do not want to admit, and to face the actual reality of the situation.”

    The reality of the situation?

    There is no scientific evidence supporting the existence of a causal association between routine childhood vaccination and autism spectrum or other neurodevelopmental disorders.

    There is no scientific evidence demonstrating the risks associated with routine childhood vaccination exceed the risks associated with remaining vulnerable to disease.

    There is no scientific evidence that any of the ingredients in vaccine formulations are toxic at exposure levels achievable by routine vaccination.

    Any rational evaluation of relative risk comes down solely in favor of complying with the recommended vaccination schedule.

    The reality is that anti-vaccine proponents are no longer even beating a dead horse with their claims–they’re flailing away at the empty air a few blocks away from a street corner where someone sometime might have said they heard a rumor that some unidnetified guy claimed to have caught in a fleeting glimpse out of the corner of his eye some kind of animal that was smaller than an elephant but larger than a dog.

  • JGC

    Not only to other blogging sources–and you owe me another irony meter for suggesting sciencebasedmedicine is less than credible while posting in support of an article found on vactruth–but they also link to the papers themselves–and consideration of the papers is sufficient of itself to disqualify any claim they demonstrate a causal association between vaccines and ASD’s.

  • Herbert West
  • Damo

    Does the author know that “free press” does not literally mean no-cost newspapers?? I mean that is what you said–“Secondly, Congress, you weren’t supposed to make laws to abridge free speech and free press. I assume it was y’all who allowed corporate funding of news media.”

    Wow, the Constitution is about what the federal government can and can’t do as it applies to the people it governs. It is not a guarantee that no person, institution, or corporation will not be allowed to fund the press to say things that you disagree with.

    I can’t even read anymore of this powerfully inept article. You need to take a friggin civics class before you spout anymore nonsense.

    Can’t wait to find out how much you got wrong when you started talking about science.

  • I retracted my statement, and apologize for my misundertanding of your reply.

  • What Gorski puts out for blogging article material, is simply nothing more than trash.

    54 Percent of Children Suffer Disabilities Caused by Vaccination

    Vaccine choice is a fundamental human right. American children are experiencing an epidemic of poor health, with 54% of our children suffering a chronic illness or neuro-developmental disability. Nearly 9 million children have skin allergies. Eight million have respiratory allergies. Seven million have asthma. Five million have a learning disability. One in 400 is diabetic. And 1 in 50 kids has autism. What you may not know is that science links all these chronic illnesses to vaccines. Vaccine injuries are real and some are life-threatening. The U.S. government acknowledges that children have been severely injured and killed by vaccines.

    54 Percent of Children Suffer Disabilities Caused by Vaccination
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Zhpk9vBs4

    http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2016/06/54-percent-of-children-suffer-disabilities-caused-by-vaccination/#pluginConnectButton

    Why Vaccines Aren’t Safe For Your Children
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZeqv_hqkE

  • I established that conclusion using common sense and based on years of research. You as well just had in front of you a direct analysis of all the large scale epidemiological studies, which identified the same thing.

    Vaccines did not eradicate small pox and nor polio. You simply refuse the real evidence, and the historical evidence recorded and explained by those that lived at the time.

    What independent studies. The same ones that I have previously referenced to on this article page, and others.

    There being no existing scientific evidence allowed within the circles of the pro-vaccine side, showing the connection; does not allow for a conclusion of vaccine safety. Independent studies have more than concluded serious and major issues with vaccine safety. Those studies are entirely ignored by the mainstream big pharma directed so called medical circles.

    There exists plenty of evidence that vaccine ingredients are toxic, and just because it has never been studied by the pro-vaccine side, does not make it not it that conclusion, non factual.

    Not only that but the evidence is clear that all vaccines are contaminated by the substance which the vaccine antigens are drown on. This scientifically, pathologically, and in common sense terms equals a risk for all sorts of resulting health related risks and issues, and to include autoimmune disease.

    The relative risk does NOT come down solely in favor of complying with the recommended vaccination schedule. In fact the vaccine truth information shows just the opposite to be true.

    54 Percent of Children Suffer Disabilities Caused by Vaccination

    Vaccine choice is a fundamental human right. American children are experiencing an epidemic of poor health, with 54% of our children suffering a chronic illness or neuro-developmental disability. Nearly 9 million children have skin allergies. Eight million have respiratory allergies. Seven million have asthma. Five million have a learning disability. One in 400 is diabetic. And 1 in 50 kids has autism. What you may not know is that science links all these chronic illnesses to vaccines. Vaccine injuries are real and some are life-threatening. The U.S. government acknowledges that children have been severely injured and killed by vaccines.

    54 Percent of Children Suffer Disabilities Caused by Vaccination
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Zhpk9vBs4

    Why Vaccines Aren’t Safe For Your Children
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZeqv_hqkE

  • It is a censored transcript in which it was intentionally deleted the actually damning statements that Gerberding made. My video contains those deleted statements, and which you refuse to acknowledge.

  • I many cases correlation does equal causation, and the study clearly demonstrated that. Regardless of how badly you need to deny it. Look at all the supporting studies that posted. Tell me, why are you ignoring that?

    When we are talking about the pro-vaccine side, using a real identity has al ot to do with credibility, and especially when you keep on lying and misrepresenting the truth. You shill have all sorts of levels regarding conflict of interest that affects your ability to be honest and unbiased The vaccine truth side of this which you cal anti-vax simply has no conflicts of interest, and there is in the majority of cases no means for anyone you claim to there being any vested interests, bias. What part of that do you not understand?

  • JGC

    The study demonstrated nothing of the kind. Did you actually read it?
    I have looked at all of what you claim are supporting studies: they don’t actually support the existence of a causal association between routine childhood vaccination and autism spectrum disorders. ( I’m beginning to think your problem is that you aren’t aware of what such evidence would look like if it did exist.)

    Clearly using a real identity has nothing at all to do with credibility–after all, Jake Crosby uses his real identity, Brian Hooker uses his real identity, Barbara Loe Fisher, Sherri Tenpenny, you yourself all use your real identities. It doesn’t make any of the antivax claims promoted any bit more credible.

  • JGC

    I listened to the video with the transcript open. I didn’t notice any statements by Gerberding present in the video that were omitted by the transcript.

  • What you can see in that video and as well regarding what Mr Noakes states in this video, you can easily conclude that what those false authorites concluded, was a lie. They had to stop these people and because they must continue to control any and all treatment options that the public has available. You are allowed to use nothing but what the for profit big pharma mislead medical model, has provided and as is only available to the public. Total control of all options. Quite obviously you are going to ignore any evidence of the actual truth.

    David Noakes: “Governments & Big Pharma Are Colluding To Keep Gc-MAF A Secret!”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy0luU4RF5U

  • JGC

    What real evidence demonstrates that vaccination is not responsible for the global eradication of smallpox? Citations needed.

    “There exists plenty of evidence that vaccine ingredients are toxic, and just because it has never been studied by the pro-vaccine side, does not make it not it that conclusion, non factual.”

    At exposure levels achievable by routine vaccination? Citations needed.

    “Five million have a learning disability. One in 400 is diabetic. And 1 in 50 kids has autism”
    learning disabilities, diabetes and ASD’s have not been demonstrated to be causally associated with routine childhood vaccination, Lowell. If you believe otherwise, again: citations needed.
    And I mean actual citations to published scientific studies–not links to you tube videos.

  • JGC

    Only if by ‘trash’ you mean accurate statements of fact supported by citations to actual evidence.
    Of course, if instead of actual scientific evidence he could only provide links to youtube videos in support of claims he’s made or positions he’s embraced, you might have the beginnings of an argument that all that was being offered was trash…

  • When are you going to actually review and address the information in front of you? All you have going is denial, and more endless denial.

  • I have documented it with multiple informational references, and many scientific studies. And what do you have? The answer, is nothing.

  • That is nothing but another load of hypocrisy and misinformation promoting, trash.

    Who has the real science, and the studies? You know who that is.

  • No citations are necessary. The CDC as well acknowledges this epidemic.

    In regard to small pox vaccine, every time they had a vaccination drive, the truth is that they had and ended up with majorly increased numbers of cases of small pox. An estimated total of only 10% of the worlds population was ever vaccinated for small pox; again acknowledged by the CDC. Where is, and does your your vaccine derived herd immunity, exist? Wake up. I have not been re-vaccinated in well over 4 decades, and there exist millions of other adults who have not. Where is your vaccine derived herd immunity, and why are those so called VPD;s not coming back? Do you actually believe that it only requires vaccinating the school children? And you are really that ignorant?

  • You are lying.

  • I not only read it, but I posted the study right in front of you. The rest of your post is full of nothing but twisted delusions.

  • Ron Roy

    The Pope and his cohorts are all globalists. Not to mention the pope is a Jesuit and the Jesuit goal has always been world government.

  • So where are those actual said citations to science? You have nothing, and know you know it. It must really suck to face your false reality, and your stubborn delusions?

  • The so called Pope can fall of a cliff and not another one ever be appointed, for all I care. He is nothing but a false deity. Thank you Ron, and for your support; much appreciated.

  • shay simmons

    None of which count as scientific research. Why haven’t you and your compadres put together this list of “damaged” children, with proofs, so that you actually have something to show?

  • shay simmons

    I have. The Health DeRanger can’t provide any corroboration. Where are the court documents indicting the Karmanos Cancer Institute and Dr David Gorski?

  • shay simmons

    No, you can’t. Videos can’t reveal the presence of broken equipment or contamination, and anyone who believes they can deserves to get food poisoning.

  • And you still refuse the evidence that was put in front of you. Typical.

  • Be patient, that may be coming.

  • shay simmons

    Not in your or my lifetimes.

  • shay simmons

    When will you have evidence?

  • Where is your science and studies…you have nothing.

  • shay simmons

    Actually, we do. It’s call the VICP, which tracks and adjuticates all claims of vaccine injury in the US. You, on the other hand, have nothing.

  • shay simmons

    Where is the published research? These aren’t lists with proof. And the “whistleblower” evidence is a series of highly-edited phone conversations taped without the speaker’s knowledge or consent.

  • Its already there, how did you miss it?

  • Fu..ck you.

  • shay simmons

    Statement of Dr William Thompson: “I want to be absolutely clear that I believe vaccines have saved and continue to save countless lives. I would never suggest that any parent avoid vaccinating children of any race. Vaccines prevent serious diseases, and the risks associated with their administration are vastly outweighed by their individual and societal benefits.”

    http://morganverkamp.com/statement-of-william-w-thompson-ph-d-regarding-the-2004-article-examining-the-possibility-of-a-relationship-between-mmr-vaccine-and-autism/

  • You refuse the evidence of the truth.

  • shay simmons

    A lot.

  • False, and censored information. Wake up,

    “Oh, to Hell with itl!”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYcxIrs4oyk

  • CumExApostolatus

    That’s because the religions have been slowly taken over by and gotten into bed with the globalists and caught syphilis from them. The World Council of Churches was started by Rockefeller. No one thinks John D. Rockefeller had anyone’s interest in mind, other than his own and those to whom he reported. As powerful as the Rockefeller family was/is, they are still lower level players in the global game and the Hegelian dialectic.
    http://www.oldthinkernews.com/2007/12/02/rockefeller-and-the-new-world-religion/
    And if you read this article (link above) you need to know that “world peace” to these creeps means the end of all opposition to their plans.

  • Damo

    This whole comment section is full of ignorant conspiracy theorists.

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    Hmm smallpox is extinct in the wild. That in and of itself. Proves the value of vaccination and public health

  • Damo

    Since your very first line is a lie, “Good article” I can’t take anything else you said seriously.

    Get with the program, there are no lizard people forcing your children to become autistic.

  • Damo

    Also, it is appropriate as a comparison, because Jimmy Stewart had only a narrow view of the subject matter and made a bunch of assumptions because of it.

    Of course, I think Raymond Burr did actually commit the murder, so, maybe vaccines do cause autism.

    Oh wait, it was just a movie. Vaccines are backed up with facts.

  • Damo

    Yes, thanks to vaccines, getting measles is now rare–and so is the brain damage that can accompany it. Thanks for taking the side of vaccines.

  • Herbert West

    Is it? Or not….the historical evidence does not support your statement.

  • Herbert West

    Lol, just noticed “4” likes from the usual suspects….I would not be the least bit surprised if you 4 clowns either work together, sharing cubicle space, or the “4” is actually 1 or 2 paid to post. Good stuff.

  • JGC

    No, I’m not. You’re continuing to insist that Gerberding stated a position she did not state and does not hold.

  • JGC

    You omitted a crucial comma in your first sentence. Let me fix that for you:
    “No, citations are necessary. “

  • JGC

    Yes: the FDA, CDC, WHO, IOM, CHOP, etc.

  • shay simmons

    Excpet that their cancer facilities were not connected and there is no documentation for that. Fata ran a private chain of oncology clinics. He never, as the Health DeRanger keeps claiming, oversaw the Barbara Ann Karmanos Cancer Institute.

  • Ron Roy

    If these parasites were to admit you’re right they’d be immediately fired.

  • Herbert West

    There doesn’t have to be a common “consensus” for religion, but thanks for playing the misinformation game.

  • Isabella Montague

    The Vaccine industry and Pharmaceutical Cartel has essentially forced Cannibalism! If now you know that these vaccines do contain human DNA, You are a Cannibal. How can anyone in their right mind continue to defend this DISGUSTING PRACTICE!! Its no wonder why our society is so Screwed up! Injectable cannibalism, who would have thought?

  • AutismDadd

    Right out of the Shill manual.

  • AutismDadd

    Shill manual again. What page is that on?

  • bsroon

    True, the congress shouldn’t stop owners of the press from supporting what they believe, but they are willing to do so when someone talks about uncomfortable things, like too many immigrants, religions, anything not praising muslims and disparaging other religions, anything anti-zionist, anything against govt or corporations…. (you do have that list of 72 extremists the US Govt designates as basically terrorists? You’re likely on there multiple times too.)

    On the other hand, we the people own the airwaves, and we aren’t consulted in how they are used. How many americans would want to have some non-corporate controlled media available? i bet many would and this is reflected in the upsurge of people who totally distrust the mainstream media and get more information on the internet today. This shows in the dropping numbers of people watching those lame shows and fake news stories….

    Other than that, he has a point about violating 1st amendment RECOGNITION of religious rights. (NONE of these freedoms are granted by the constitution – they are human rights you simply HAVE {inherent} and which nobody and nothing has legitimate authority to remove – inalienable)

    Nobody has the right to make medical decisions for my personal biochemical system but me, because nobody knows it like i do. Nobody is affected by those decisions but me. If you choose to allow yourself to become a medical slave to a state/govt which is practicing medicine without a license – go for it – just don’t drag me into such insanity please.

  • bsroon

    This is why the correct term is “SUPREME COURT MORON-JORITY” when a majority decision is now made….

  • bsroon

    Don’t you find it highly ironic that in 1964 when it was totally illegal to have an abortion – MDs PRESSURED WOMEN who were pregnant and had mumps to have those fetuses aborted by assuring them the child would have a horrible life, be deformed, retarded, etc – and then they took the immunity from a few of those coerced abortions and made ultimately BILLIONS of $$$ off of that.
    When abortions were illegal! But THEY wanted control and bucks and prestige – and they killed for that….and ineffective vaxassination formulas.

  • bsroon

    Well, Catholic Bishops also support pedophilia, so you’re going to use them as ANOTHER authority figure and again imply that we don’t have the right to make our own decisions? Silly of you, really, no?

    It might seem different if vaccination worked as advertised and was reasonably safe, but with every one of them containing multiple toxic ingredients, short circuiting and damaging the immune system, and decreasing national health (you vaccinate more and we as a people become less healthy – although i grant you there are parallel problems adding to the phenomenon)

    If infant vaccination were so damb effective, we wouldn’t have one of the worst infant mortality rates in the industrialized nations, would we – but we do. So they aren’t helping.

  • bsroon

    Not to mention that these paragons of virtue (sarcasm font fail) seem to have supported pedophilia in shuffling known offenders around to damage others instead of locking them up or something…

  • bsroon

    Some seem to imply strong evidence of Satanism actually…

    We do know that the weirdos are hiding everywhere – heck – the six sided star of David was actually started by Solomon by some rules – and is Luciferian in origin prior to his usage – alleged influenced by the Queen of Bathsheba….

    It is a hell of a rabbit hole…..

  • Exactly, and that embodies the epitome of serious level of evil. I wouldn’t trust the Catholic church to tell me correctly, shxt.

  • This is the best I can respond to that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht7mxF9XZiA

  • Damo

    What are you even talking about?

  • bsroon

    you mentioned the constitution as not being pertinent to the ownership of newspapers and what they publish and i was agreeing. The free press gets to print whatever the owner wants.

    However, the free press (includes media like TV) is not supposed to have a monopoly and something like 90+% of the airwave media are owned by about 6 groups of rich people who publish propaganda positive to their consumer mentality and depriving us of any other side of any situation.

    So you have CNN and much of the other big lamestream media as the MAIN source of Clinton support and totally biased coverage of that idiot Trump AND they try to whitewash that evil spawn of Satan – Hillary Rodham Clinton – the rapist….

    So they are free, but we the people own the airwaves. We actually own the minerals in the ground, trees and other resources – as a nation, but they are all given to corporations – which means rich people. To make the circuit complete these same rich people have a vested interest in you not knowing what they are doing to you – so the media amounts to brainwashing and subservience training.

  • Damo

    You are correct that we do own the airwaves, but anyone is free to get a license to broadcast.

    We, as a nation, do not own our natural resources (except those found on public lands). You may want to check your understanding of the law and Constitution, you will find it is not complete.

  • AutismDadd

    That’s it, keep dipping your slop bucket into the Wakefield Well. Typical Pro-vac Neanderthal regurgitating and parrot the same old lame old rubbish.

  • AutismDadd

    Got have a vegimite sandwich mate

  • tamajam10

    May I suggest you actually READ the case you continuously cite?

    Here’s a clip:
    “Could he reasonably claim such an exemption because ‘quite often,’ or ‘occasionally,’ injury had resulted from vaccination, or because it was impossible, in the opinion of some, by any practical test, to determine with absolute certainty whether a particular person could be safely vaccinated?….”

    The fact is, it’s been acknowledged as early as the ‘Jacobson’ case that vaccines most certainly DO cause harm. If this was not KNOWN, the VAERS ‘organization’ would never have been established…..to protect the pharmaceutical companies making guinea pigs of us all….

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    An exception is made in favor of “children who present a certificate, signed by a registered physician that they are unfit subjects for vaccination.” § 139.

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    I have read it several times. It clearly holds that the benefits far outweigh any risks…

    See

    that, while they have recognized the possibility of injury to an individual from carelessness in the performance of it, or even, in a conceivable case, without carelessness, they generally have considered the risk of such an injury too small to be seriously weighed as against the benefits coming from the discreet and proper use of the preventive, and that not only the medical profession and the people generally have for a long time entertained these opinions, but legislatures and courts have acted upon them with general unanimity

  • AutismDadd

    Indoctrinated drones whose licence or fear of losing it keeps then operating according to consensus.

  • AutismDadd

    Why would he want that? Who wants to know what you think?

  • AutismDadd

    Likely they get .50 cents per up vote and $3.00 a post.