Japanese Government Continues to Ban the MMR Vaccine

For many years, controversy has surrounded the three-in-one vaccine against measles, mumps, and rubella. Most notably, the MMR vaccine is infamous for its disputed connection to autism, and despite the fact that it has been blamed in vaccine courts for causing autism, vaccine supporters still deny its fault in skyrocketing rates of autism spectrum disorder, which is at least one in 68 children, with even higher rates of diagnosis among boys. [1, 2]

However, the vaccine has other serious risks in addition to the relationship it has with unmanageable numbers of autism in children, which has led to a ban of this vaccine in one industrialized nation.

The Japanese government banned the measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine from its vaccination program in 1993, after a record number of children developed adverse reactions, including meningitis, loss of limbs, and death. [3]


The MMR Vaccine’s Tragic History in Japan

The MMR vaccine was introduced in Japan in April 1989, and parents who refused the compulsory vaccine were fined. After three months of analysis, officials realized that one in 900 children developed adverse reactions to the vaccine, a rate that was 2,000 times higher than the expected rate.

Officials had hoped to resolve the problem by switching to another version of the vaccine, but the excessive amount of adverse reactions persisted, with one in 1,755 children affected. Testing of 125 children’s spinal fluid determined that the vaccines had entered one child’s nervous system, with two additional suspected cases.

Four years later, in 1993, the government removed the MMR mandate against measles and rubella. A doctor from Japan’s Ministry of Health and Welfare admitted that the separate, individual doses of measles and rubella cost twice as much to administer, and he defended the decision, stating, “but we believe it is worth it.” Furthermore, a member of the health ministry also stated that the ban has not caused an increase in deaths from measles. [4]

Japanese officials were also concerned about the MMR vaccine causing additional cases of mumps, citing numerous studies in The Lancet. [5]

Mumps and hepatitis B vaccines are not part of the national immunization program in Japan. [6]

What Many Parents Don’t Know About the MMR Vaccine

The list of adverse reactions to the MMR vaccine, straight from Merck’s vaccine package inserts, is long and alarming. A shortened version of the vaccine damage associated with the MMR vaccine includes vomiting, diarrhea, anaphylaxis, ear pain, nerve deafness, diabetes, arthritis, myalgia, encephalitis, febrile seizures, pneumonia, and death. [7, 8]

A search of the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database shows the following statistics from the United States: over 75,000 adverse events have been reported from any combination of measles, mumps, and rubella vaccines, including, most notably:

  • 78 deaths
  • 85 cases of deafness
  • 48 cases of decreased eye contact
  • 92 cases of developmental delay
  • 855 reported cases of autism
  • 116 cases of intellectual disability
  • 401 reports of speech disorders
  • 276 reports of loss of consciousness
  • 143 cases of encephalitis
  • 74 cases of meningitis
  • 111 cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome
  • 692 cases of gait disturbance (not being able to walk normally)
  • 748 cases of hypokinesia (partial or complete loss of muscle movement)
  • 653 reports of hypotonia (poor muscle tone)
  • 4874 reports of seizures, including febrile convulsions and tonic clonic seizures
  • 1576 cases of cellulitis (a potentially serious skin infection)

And finally, in some cases, the vaccine has caused the very diseases it is supposed to prevent, with the following data reported to VAERS:

  • 147 cases of measles
  • 384 cases of mumps
  • 29 cases of rubella [9]

The number of adverse events following vaccination are vastly underreported, as acknowledged by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The National Vaccine Information Center estimates that less than one to ten percent of adverse reactions to vaccines are reported. Many of the numbers reported above could therefore be multiplied by one hundred to determine a more accurate amount of adverse reactions. [10, 11]

Japan Takes a Protective Stance Against Other Vaccines, Too

The flu vaccine has also been the subject of controversy in Japan, after 100 deaths occurred from the vaccine by the end of 2009. Japan’s health ministry has been criticized for for its cautious stance against vaccines, but so far, government officials have wisely defended their position, citing public safety as the paramount concern.

Finally, the Japanese government has also taken a protective stance against vaccines on behalf of its young girls, suspending the human papilloma virus (HPV) vaccine in 2013 after numerous cases of serious adverse events were reported, with one report citing as many as 1,968 adverse events, 358 of which were classified as serious.

Japanese officials were concerned about the well-being of their young citizens, despite having invested $187 million in the program. Damage payments to only a fraction of the victims who have suffered adverse reactions to the HPV vaccine have reached $6 million. [12]

Additionally, since 2011, at least 38 infants have been reported to have died after they had been vaccinated against haemophilus influenza B and streptococcus pneumonia, according to records compiled by the health ministry in Japan.

Japanese Officials Speak Out

Japan has been criticized for being behind the times when it comes to vaccination. Vaccine advocates claim that Japan has not kept pace with other developed countries regarding the use of vaccines. Despite listing 110 infectious diseases in a government registry, Japan offers vaccines for only 22 of those.

Some Japanese health experts disagree, however. Hiroko Mori, a vaccine researcher, is one of those experts. He was the former head of the infectious disease division at Japan’s National Institute of Public Health.

He has noted that Japan has one of the lowest infant mortality rates in the world and has advocated for fewer vaccines, stating that the country’s excellent sanitation and nutrition has boosted children’s health.

He observed,

“Medicine is supposed to be about healing, but babies who cannot speak are being given unnecessary shots because parents are scared. Children are losing their ability to heal naturally.

There are so many people who have suffered side effects. All we are asking is to establish the right to say ‘no.’ The right to choose should be recognized as a fundamental human right.”

Tetsuo Nakayama, Dean of Kitasato University’s Graduate School of Infection Control Sciences, is an expert who supports vaccines, but he, too, acknowledges the risks of vaccination, stating that:

“There is no guarantee that your child will not be that one out of 1,000. You have to compare the risks between the side effects and what will happen if you are infected with the disease naturally.

Under the existing law, the decision to vaccinate your child or not is basically left up to the parents, but there is not enough information out there for them to make an informed decision.”

Masako Koga, a former representative of the Consumers Union of Japan, has shared his concerns about the ulterior motives behind mass vaccination programs:

“Vaccines should only be given to those who need them but that is not happening. The global industry is being driven by a strategy that promotes VPD [vaccine preventable diseases].

We must put a stop to it. Vaccines have close ties to money. From development to circulation to research on side effects, there are a lot of vested interests involved.”

He also summarized what motivates many parents’ decisions not to vaccinate their children:

“There is no knowing who will suffer side effects as a result of vaccination.

[Proponents of vaccination] say the chance of suffering a side effect is 1 in a million. For parents, however, that one is everything.”


Japanese officials have made decisions that value the health and safety of their citizens when they have removed vaccines with dangerous side effects from their national vaccination program.

Japan boasts a low infant mortality rate, despite — or perhaps because of  — mandating only a fraction of the vaccines required by other developed countries, including the United States.

If you wish to learn more about the harmful ingredients in vaccines or the potential adverse reactions, we have compiled an easy-to-navigate list of vaccine package inserts from the manufacturers that you can view or download here.

Has your child suffered an adverse reaction to the MMR vaccine or the HPV vaccine, both of which have been removed from Japan’s national vaccination program? If so, please share your story in our comment section below.



  1. http://www.naturalnews.com/041897_MMR_vaccines_autism…
  2. http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/data.html
  3. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-17509/Why-Japan…
  4. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1808316.stm
  5. http://www.healthy.net/Health/Article/UPDATES/7591
  6. http://www.japantimes.co.jp/life/2014/10/04/lifestyle/vaccination…
  7. http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf
  8. http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars…pdf
  9. https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/data
  10. http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/surv-manual/chpt21-surv-adverse…
  11. http://www.nvic.org/faqs/vaccine-reactions.aspx
  12. http://www.tokyotimes.com/side-effects-in-young-girls…

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  • CumExApostolatus

    The Japanese have always been known to be rather concerned about their racial stock. They’ve been called xenophobes. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised that the Japanese hierarchy knows and understands that the global vaccination program has an underlying purpose, which is to change the genetic make-up of those populations it is forced upon. Just a thought.

  • And how do they as well continue to ignore this long list of supporting and even replicating studies, in regard to the findings in the 1998 Wakefield, Lancet study?

    Research References

  • Jonathan Graham

    Kind of a non-news item. First it’s talking about Japan’s use of MMR with urabe strain mumps in it. Which is associated with non-viral meningitis. However according to the Daily Mail the

    Official figures show there were three deaths while eight children were left with permanent handicaps ranging from damaged hearing and blindness to loss of control of limbs.

    but the BBC notes

    Japan’s Health Ministry said more than 100 people died from measles over the next six years, while there were no deaths in the UK.

    So while it’s a simplication just comparing deaths seems that whatever they saved by discontinuing the MMR they lost is measles deaths. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1808316.stm

    It also mentions autism which is a little misleading because we also know that even with low use of MMR Japan’s autism rate continues to climb. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15877763


    Many of these would happen with any injection. So if you search VAERS for just serious events you end up with 5,230. Which is still treating the events like they’re all causative – which we know they’re not. http://momswhovax.blogspot.ca/2011/10/incredible-hulk-vaccine-side-effect-or.html

  • just_gorgeous

    Hahahaha! Conspiralunacy reaches a new low.

  • CumExApostolatus

    Laugh it up, Chuckles. What if GMO food is just a distraction from the real program (vaccination) that has been going on for decades already?
    It’s similar to the geoengineering programs that have been going on since as early as the 1940s but alphabet soup agency and university minions have only recently admitted.

  • And you actually expect the readers to find as believable, a study like that? A what is the role of the J Child Psychol Psychiatry, investigating this vaccine issue. Just more JUNK epidemiolgical numbers science. They spin it any way they want to.

    This study examined cumulative incidence of ASD up to age seven for children born from 1988 to 1996 in Kohoku Ward (population approximately 300,000), Yokohama, Japan. ASD cases included all cases of pervasive developmental disorders according to ICD-10 guidelines.

    The MMR vaccination rate in the city of Yokohama declined significantly in the birth cohorts of years 1988 through 1992, and not a single vaccination was administered in 1993 or thereafter. In contrast, cumulative incidence of ASD up to age seven increased significantly in the birth cohorts of years 1988 through 1996 and most notably rose dramatically beginning with the birth cohort of 1993.


    And you claim that the same adverse effects listed in VAERS would happen with ANY injection, how much more dishonest and in denial can you get?

    125 Research Papers Supporting the Vaccine/Autism Causation

    And it is not just the MMR vaccine: it is vaccine contamination; it is aluminum adjuvants; it is cytokine immune reactivity after vaccines, and more importantly multiple vaccines and when given in the same day; it is ischemia and ischemic stroke caused by aluminum adjuvants and vaccine induced immune reactivity; it is all of the above and more.

    Oddly for some children that have vaccine injuries, and as well autism, mercury continues to be an issue, and with mercury and other heavy metal toxicity found during biomedical treatment and in the need of detoxification. Where is it coming from, if not the vaccines? We know there are said still trace amounts of mercury in several of the killed/attenuated childhood vaccines. Just how is the FDA checking on and regulating that issue where mercury is used in the manufacturing process, but then said removed other than for trace amounts remaining. How do they assure that Thimerosal has been removed, other than to assume it has been done, and that on the honor of the pharmaceutical companies. We all know what that trust and honor is worth; absolutely nothing.

    Vaccines have historically and always will continue to do, MORE harm than good. There is a better way, and they refuse to look. They have everything to lose, and they will in their denial, continue to refuse to let that happen.

  • Jonathan Graham

    And you claim that the same adverse effects listed in VAERS would happen with ANY injection, how much more dishonest and in denial can you get?

    I’m only a native speaker of English and have some minor proficiency in Quebecois, Chinese and Japanese. Because I don’t speak Lowell I’ll explain what I meant by using that study.

    The article vaxtruth article starts like this

    However, the vaccine has other serious risks in addition to the relationship it has with unmanageable numbers of autism in children, which has led to a ban of this vaccine in one industrialized nation.

    This phrase claims that autism was among the reason that Japan banned the MMR. Not only is this not true but if it was then we would expect to see a reduction in autism cases when it was removed. We don’t.

    125 Research Papers Supporting the Vaccine/Autism Causation

    I’m happy to discuss one of these if you can point me to the one which is the most statistically strong. I know you have no idea how to make that assessment but it would be interesting if you thought you did. That way after I show it to be false or weak I could say that I brought down the strongest evidence for a vaccine autism link.

    But the only way I can have that kind of fun is if you could commit to that which you can’t because, as I said you have zero clue when it comes to math. :-)

  • janem1276

    Interesting that the rates of autism continue to rise in Japan despite not using the MMR

  • Langhorne

    “JUNK epidemiolgical [sic] numbers science” ?

    LOL – Take a good hard look at anything published by Shaw and Tomljenovic from UBC!

  • Jonathan Graham

    I’ve read Shaw’s stuff. He’s been in vogue with the vaccine critics lately. Perhaps once you get a paper pulled you prove you’re not part of the pro-vaccine conspiracy or something…

    I read his epidemiological study where he looked at vaccine schedules, estimated the aluminum dosage and attempted to correlate it with ASD rates. It seemed rather obvious that there wasn’t sufficient precision on his data points to have the differences be at all meaningful.

  • Explain to me why you think this study is incorrect?

    Autism Spectrum Disorders and Aluminum Vaccine Adjuvants
    Lucija Tomljenovic, Russell L. Blaylock, Christopher A. Shaw

    Impaired brain function, excessive inflammation, and autoimmune manifestations are common in autism. Aluminum (Al), the most commonly used vaccine adjuvant, is a demonstrated neurotoxin and a strong immune stimulator. Hence, adjuvant Al has the necessary properties to induce neuroimmune disorders. Because peripheral immune stimuli in the postnatal period can compromise brain development and cause permanent neurological impairments, the possibility that such outcomes could also occur with administration of Al vaccine adjuvants needs to be considered. In regard to the risk of adjuvant toxicity in children, the following should be noted: (i) children should not be viewed as “small adults” as their unique physiology makes them more vulnerable to toxic insults; (ii) in adult humans Al adjuvants can cause a variety of serious autoimmune and inflammatory conditions including those affecting the brain, yet children are routinely exposed to much higher amounts of Al from vaccines than adults; (iii) compelling evidence has underscored the tight connection between the development of the immune system and that of the brain. Thus, it appears plausible that disruptions of critical events in immune development may also play a role in the establishment of neurobehavioral disorders; (iv) the same immune system components that play key roles in brain development appear to be targeted for impairment by Al adjuvants. In summary, research data suggests that vaccines containing Al may be a contributing etiological factor in the increasing incidence of autism.


    (More studies and data) Vaccine aluminum adjuvant causation of neuroglial activation and neuroinflammation in the brain of patients with autism- Page 2

  • Jonathan Graham

    Haven’t read it. Post a link to the actual study. The abstract is useless in this case.

  • And again instead of directly addressing the bulk of those studies and its impact on actual the existing vaccine safety profile, you instead and again evade the issue and continue to antagonize and personally attack me with attempted false discrediation.

    The vaccine issues and the studies are not about me; and as a fact i fully understand what any and all of those studies are putting forth. And you actually think that any an all studies that i put forth and not matter how many and no matter on how many lists of studies, are all immediately invalidated, if I do not explain to you directly what is in the studies, or a study. How twisted and completely evasive is that. You claim to be the purveyor of the science, so YOU explain why any of those studies are incorrect? You have your focus on responsibilities, backwards., Get started.

  • Jonathan Graham

    you instead and again evade the issue

    Clearly the issue is addressing the studies right? It seems far more efficient to start at the strongest evidence. Right?
    If it’s persuasive then I might read one or two more but I clearly don’t need to bother with the crappy ones. Right? Now if the strongest evidence is crap then I also don’t need to read the rest. If it’s ambiguous then I proceed down in order of statistical power.

    So either you know the statistical strength of these studies or you don’t. If you’re offering me studies that you don’t know how strong they are statistically – then I’m not interested. Since your opinion isn’t worth anything. If you do and you are refusing to provide the information you have then again you’re foot dragging and I’m uninterested.

  • VikingAPRNCNP

    Measles and rubella vaccines continue to be combined. The mumps component is given separately. The guidelines call for all three components to be given at one year and they can be given simultaneously. See


    it alppear a based on a brief review that their recommendations and timetables substantially agree with acip.

  • Langhorne

    This isn’t a study you might find in a reputable source like PubMed… It’s a chapter in a compiled reference by Springer. I found a copy of the “Comprehensive Guide to Autism” PDF here:


    The article is essentially a re-hash of Tomljenovic & Shaw’s failed 2011 study and why someone like Blaylock is involved is a complete mystery. Also note that this reference contains an article by Mark & David Geier! LOL – What were the editors thinking!!! I think I’ll write them and ask.

  • Nikka80

    You know… With all those studies of autistic patients with gastrointestinal anomalies, it better points to a correlation with genetic indicators possibly common to all autistics.

  • Really? And where is the study that shows that and which has ever held any merit in regard to the existence of thousands of children that no have autism. Even Paul Offit has not been so blind as to claim to an over-all proven genetic component. And so as well you did not even bother to review the endless number of studies in that reference link, and instead simply continue on to falsely claim to a genetic link. Do you actually thin that autism goes from 1 in 10,000, to now in in 68, all somehow by some new conditions related to faulty human genetics? You are for whatever reason, simply choosing to remain in denial, just face it.

    Del Bigtree at the 2nd Annual Health Freedom Rally and Candlelight Vigil for Vaccine Injured in Santa Monica, published July 1, 2016 protesting unconstitutional California bill SB277 forcing mandatory vaccines on our children.

    Andrew Wakefield’s speech at the 2nd Annual Health Freedom Rally held in Santa Monica in front of City Hall

    Vaccines Injuries and Deaths Increase in Government Vaccine Court – June 2016 Report

    Dr. Rachael Ross at the 2nd Annual Health Freedom Rally and Candlelight Vigil for Vaccine Injured

    The Doctors Star Rachel Ross MD Feels Like An Ass For Misunderstanding Vaccines

    Dr. Rachael Ross of the popular TV show The Doctors caused quite a stir at the Vaxxedmovie premiere when she opened up about her own wake-up call on vaccines when she was asked the question by an audience member about how much information she had received in medical school regarding vaccines.

    Dr. Ross responded that medical doctors do not receive as much training as the general public might think. She went on to say that she feels like an “ass” for having followed the vaccine dogma for so long. The audience member asked,

    “What were you taught specifically about vaccines, how much information did you get on ingredients; on studies of them all given together? And how much information did you actually receive that prepared you for that?” the audience member asked.

    Dr. Ross responded:

    They don’t teach us about the ingredients, they don’t teach us about the studies behind it. I think what they teach us is that they’ve always been given and that they cure diseases and that you just do it. And honestly, you know, from the outside looking in now and as I’m saying this to all you people I almost feel like an ass.
    Are there any other doctors in here practicing medicine? It’s kinda like you just feel – you wake up one day and you just feel like gosh…I’m just blindly, like a robot, following through with this, with no real data, with no real information – I didn’t know what was in them and so that’s part of what makes us all feel really bad and it’s part of why physicians are very resistant to this information because you have to sit at home … and redigest and relearn everything that you’ve learned and come to terms with the damage that you potentially caused through the years.

    Watch the video below:

    Read more:

  • Nikka80

    So it’s totally unfathomable to you that autism has a strong potential genetic root and there’s been no study of the subject? I put “genetic” along with “autism” into a search engine and dozens and dozens of references were returned! Here’s just the first five:

    “Mutations of the X-linked genes encoding neuroligins NLGN3 and NLGN4 are associated with autism”

    “Autism genome-wide copy number variation reveals ubiquitin and neuronal genes”

    “Mutations in the gene encoding the synaptic scaffolding protein SHANK3 are associated with autism spectrum disorders”

    “The ‘Fractionable Autism Triad’: A Review of Evidence from Behavioural, Genetic, Cognitive
    and Neural Research”

    “Etiology of infantile autism: a review of recen tadvances in genetic and neurobiological research”

  • [Many studies have supported a genetic etiology for autism. Here we report mutations in two X-linked genes encoding neuroligins NLGN3 and NLGN4 in siblings with autism-spectrum disorders. These mutations affect cell-adhesion molecules localized at the synapse and suggest that a defect of synaptogenesis may predispose to autism.]

    That doesn’t mean that vaccines are not the causative reason that that predisposition is triggering autism. I have already read far to many real and independent studies showing directly the links to vaccine caused autism, to ever think or believe that faulty genetics is the sole cause of autism.

    Study two. [ Although these variants may be individually rare, they target genes involved in neuronal cell-adhesion or ubiquitin degradation, indicating that these two important gene networks expressed within the central nervous system may contribute to the genetic susceptibility of ASD.]

    As Paul Offit knows, these studies describe a rare genetic situation, and not one that would explain a 1 in 10,000 diagnosis rate prior to the quadrupling of vaccine numbers and doses prior to 1987, and climbing to now today is a figure of 1 in 68.

    Study 3. [SHANK3 (also known as ProSAP2) regulates the structural organization of dendritic spines and is a binding partner of neuroligins; genes encoding neuroligins are mutated in autism and Asperger syndrome. Here, we report that a mutation of a single copy of SHANK3 on chromosome 22q13 can result in language and/or social communication disorders. These mutations concern only a small number of individuals, but they shed light on one gene dosage–sensitive synaptic pathway that is involved in autism spectrum disorders.]

    Again, same thing, and as said.

  • Measles BEFORE The Public Brainwashing

  • Nikka80

    Autism incidence has likely been under counted for decades. You are aware that autism statistics of late have been influenced by much broader diagnostic definitions for inclusion, greater awareness by schools and health agencies and more public programs for detection and social services? I could show you demographics maps where clusters of new autism diagnoses suddenly popped up in neighborhoods where new autism services facilities were opened.

  • Nikka80

    Measles at any time period:

    –> 1 to 2 in 1000 active measles cases in a child will result in death
    –> 1 in 2000 active cases develop encephalitis and resulting neurological damage
    –> Ear infections in 1in 10 active cases which can lead to permanent loss of hearing
    –> 1 in 20 active cases develops a concurrent pneumonia infection, often the cause of death
    –> Studies show an active case of Measles suppresses the immune system for many months and thus increases susceptibility to other infectious diseases
    –> High incidence of birth defects and miscarriage seen when an un-vaccinated mother or mother with waning immunity is exposed to measles during her pregnancy

    The younger populace has no common memory of these things due to immunization programs.

  • That is just another load of falsely fear mongering BS. And what is your source, the CDC, WHO, and Pediatrics? Nothing unbiased and independent, and not ever; right?

  • Indeed there are and of course there are more cases diagnosed with the increase in awareness; however it is really difficult to deny regressive autism after vaccines and to claim that realizing the child has severe autism, would not have happened before and in said previous years. This still would not explain a change point of the finding the diagnosis rate at 1 in 10,000 prior to 1987, and not being an existing 1 in 68, and 1 in 48 in boys. You are simply remaining and choosing to remain in denial, delusional.

    Even the CDC has declared that the known issue of these autism diagnosis increases, are a national and world wide emergency. Do you really think they would have stated that if the increased numbers were not known to be real?

  • Nikka80

    So hundreds of regional public health departments and state departments of health nation-wide who are passively collecting data from mandated reports of reportable infectious diseases turned in by thousands of health care providers, clinics and hospitals are all in on the hoax? You have quite an imagination!

  • Actually you have it wrong. They have been brainwashed by their big pharma mislead medical schools to believe that what they are promoting is correct and right. Their careers depend on that remaining in their mind, to be right. Most are so unable and unwilling to think outside the box, and in using their own mind and common sense, that they refuse to do it. Any so called medical professional who is awakened and chooses to speak out and or deviate from established protocols, is immediately risking and in jeopardy of losing their career; and most all doctors and funded researchers are obviously aware of that It doesn’t take any imagination at all; what I just told you is reality.

  • Nikka80

    How long have you worked along side health care professionals so you can make this broad generalization?

  • bouncedancer

    Do you realize that the vaccinated will often shed the virus for days, weeks and sometimes months afterwards? (Polio virus and the pertussis bacteria too.)

    In the case of ear infections, do you realize that there is high correlation between vaccines and ear infections? (Where there is causation you have to look at correlation — why this stunning lack of curiosity in the medical community?)

    In the cases where vaccines provide immunity (and that is not a given), it’s often short-lived. Only live viruses provide lifetime immunity. Guess who is a a sitting duck for a measles (or mumps) infection: the vaccinated young adults who have had no natural exposure to these diseases. Not only are the diseases worse in young adults than in babies, the new, post-vaccine versions of these pathogens are often deadlier or more injurious than the prior versions.

    There are lots of people in their 60s who remember how easy-peasy the old version of the measles was for most kids — when I asked around, they remembered they got to stay home. It was considered a good thing, because now the kids had lifetime immunity.

  • bouncedancer

    Good and thoughtful answers. One woman I talked with, who started out pro-vaccine, told me about her sons. The first one was normal, had his vaccinations, no problem. The second one was born with mild autism. The moment he got his first (and only, I trust) MMR shot, he started screaming, didn’t stop screaming for 2 days, and with that was thrown into the depths of autism. He didn’t speak for 5 years. Can you imagine the human and financial cost it took for the mother to bring her son back to functioning? It took a LOT of therapy. (Care for these unfortunate people (and it’s not just kids) is a big industry and is about to get huge.)

  • Nikka80

    Do you realize how LOW the risk is of spreading the virus with “shedding”? Do you realize how VIRULENT and transmissible a virus is with a real wild case of a vaccine preventable viral disease?

  • bouncedancer

    Did you even read my reply? It’s the vaccines that made the viruses so very virulent! Who don’t you ask people you know in their 50s, 60s and beyond how they weathered this virulent virus?

  • bouncedancer

    And why would you assume the risk of spreading the disease is low with shedding? Lots of people walking around shedding viruses and other pathogens doesn’t make for low risk.

    In countries where they have very high vaccine compliance, in the high 90s percentage-wise (China, South Korea, Finland), they still have epidemics — hmmm … there goes the herd immunity BS — herd immunity only works with wild viruses, as any biologist/virologist can point out. Thank you for helping me point this out.

  • The public refuses to believe anything but what the doctor and the CDC told them, and then after the fact, it becomes to late and the child is vaccine injured. Then comes the doctors in all their arrogance not believing the vaccine-vaccine injury autism connection, and until it happens to their own child. Where do you see them next? They go to the vaccine truth seminars, tears streaming; and the ones they can find, and they say I was wrong, and you were right, please keep doing what you are doing.

  • Nikka80

    Try as I might, and I am more than a little familiar with infectious diseases, virology and immunology, I can find no scientific source to confirm that vaccines make viruses more virulent or that “shedding” of any type represents a significant transmission risk. Yes, overuse of antibiotics have created resistant bacteria but there is no similar documented effect with vaccines viruses. The VERY FEW cases seen of any effect of shedding involve quite close contact between people or contact with feces. It’s not at all like the transmission risk with a coughing and sneezing sick person with a real case of disease spewing aerosol droplets of the infective agent to others around them. Were you aware that someone with measles can sneeze in an elevator and the floating microbes can be inhaled and infect the next group of people to enter that elevator? And most of the viruses used in some vaccines are attenuated (weakened) or killed viruses which have an extremely low chance of transmitting to another human.

  • ioneskye

    All vaccines cause damage. Robert Mendelsohn, one of the most brilliant and influential pediatricians of the century, found out later in his career that vaccination maims and kills babies, children and adults, not to mention animals. Mass immunization will prove to be a MEDICAL TIME BOMB-Dr. Mendelsohn.

  • bouncedancer

    If this were true, there wouldn’t be all these epidemics in populations with a very high rate of vaccination. Not only do they have epidemics, the pathogens are now even more virulent — let loose on a population that now has reduced immunity from all the shots full of neurotoxins (not only aluminum and mercury, but even MSG and artificial colors. WTF?!). The schedule is up to almost 70 doses of this toxic brew before adulthood!

  • Stephanie Christian

    The vaccines are all very unsafe.

  • Stephanie Christian

    This is totally inaccurate…possibly you missed the episode of the brady bunch when marsha got the measles. please I am totally unvaccinated and the most healthy human I know.

  • Stephanie Christian

    you have no clue how low the risk is. so why even speak about it.

  • Stephanie Christian

    until the complete study of the Vaccinate populace vs the Unvaccinated (and I mean totally unvaccinated) populace of the USA takes place we are all speaking about non science. Do the study or shut up. The CDC has had the funding and ample time to do the study. They don’t want to do it. We want a full compliance in finding out figures as they relate to 1. autism, cancer, auto immune disease, arthritis, diabetes type 1 & 2, seizures, childhood cancer and leukemia, epi pen use, and peanut allergy, eczema — not easily treatable measles, chickenpox and mumps.

  • Stephanie Christian

    If a mother does not test positive for HEP B; only a moron would shoot a 1 day old child with HEP B. Across the entire USA morons who consider themselves trained in healing are doing this. They are also using Synthetic Vitamin K on1 day old children (it contains polysorbate 80). I don’t think you have to go further than 1 day of life in the USA to realize we know nothing about health! Shame on the scam of big Pharma. Stand your ground. We are not scientific experiments and the Nuremberg Code of Ethics protects every human on the planet earth from being involved in their dangerous Vaccine Roulette. Not 1 of these vaccines has a true long term real placebo double blind test going for it. Not 1. Not 1 of these vaccines has been long term studied for carcinogenic effect and not 1 is FDA approved for use in a pregnant woman, but that doesn’t seem to stop their violent push on society. As for me and my children we will never comply. End of story. I am the herd. I am 43, unvaccinated… I had natural measles, mumps and chicken pox and I am today the healthiest of anyone I know.

  • Stephanie Christian

    Autism is triggered by many vaccines not just the MMR… I would say DTAP and HIB and HEP B are major players. All vaccines need to be halted till after 3 years of age.

  • Stephanie Christian

    try to look at that Pertussis (carrier state)…. oh so wonderful how all the vaccinated are giving whooping cough to their children… I mean can you find the article on this???? look a little deeper.

  • Stephanie Christian

    Natural disease cart blanches vaccine induced “theoretic immunity” any day of the week.

  • Stephanie Christian

    only a moron would shoot know neuro toxic substances and carcinogens into a pregnant women. the push to vaccinate pregnant women in this country is so disgusting that the very vile nature of the Pharma industry has been exposed once and for all.

  • Stephanie Christian

    yes like MTHFR double mutations and so all children should be tested for these and def. medical waiver administered to all and any with this mutation.

  • Stephanie Christian

    Sanjay Gupta.. “We DO NOT know what causes Autism, but we KNOW it is NOT Vaccines” Every time I watch that clip I crack up…. Is there anything more ignorant? ZIKA — the only place in american medicine where correlation implies causation… :0 !!! Wait, they have a vaccine for this……. BIG PHARMA is so OBVIOUS. Run for your life!!!! Scientism is the most violent bow down religion on the planet earth. Sorry, I don’t worship at that alter. Natural over Synthetic any day of the week.

  • Stephanie Christian

    reputable as in written by big Pharma .. the companies who in 1986 gave themselves immunity… please! The Idea that known continued criminal corporations are considered reputable is a joke.

  • Jonathan Graham

    Toxicity is about dose. Only a moron can’t see that.

  • Jonathan Graham

    Nice verbing of “carte blanche” (except you forgot the first word is French). However you have provided no evidence for your assertion or for the more important assertion that vaccination has a worse risk/reward ratio than illness. Let me know when you figure that one out.

  • Stephanie Christian

    Wrong yet again! You don’t know what a dose does to a fetus! Do the science …. We have clear proof that epigenetics are changed when a child is exposed to toxins… Only a Pharma hag would continue shooting toxins at 10x the recommended dose for water (which goes through the gut) and shoot it into a human. Not one vaccine is tested for fetal outcome or FDA approved for use in the pregnant ! Nothing more toxic than your mindset! Change it now!

  • janem1276

    Pertussis vaccine can not shed as it is not a live virus. Oral polio did have some shedding, which is why it’s no longer in use

  • janem1276

    So which is it? If only live viruses lead to lifelong immunity, then the MMR and Varivax would lead to lifelong immunity, as they are life viruses.

  • janem1276

    So tv shows are a good example? Hmm, we see where you get your information. Mine comes from peer reviewed journals

  • janem1276

    Yes, let’s shift the goalposts again!

  • Sonja Henie

    It’s “triggered” by whatever the autism advocates want to blame it on any given day.

  • Jonathan Graham

    You don’t know what a dose does to a fetus!

    Actually we do for a number of outcomes[1][2] furthermore we know that illness during pregnancy is positively correlated with negative outcomes like autism.[3]

    We have clear proof that epigenetics are changed

    Now epigenetics is a thing that can be changed not just the study of a kind of genetic change?

    Only a Pharma hag would continue shooting toxins at 10x the recommended dose for water (which goes through the gut) and shoot it into a human.

    …or someone who actually understands that limits for water are much lower than those for vaccines because your exposure to water is thousands to millions of times higher than your exposure to vaccines.

    Nothing more toxic than your mindset! Change it now!

    Tell you what provide statistically strong evidence and then I’ll change my mind. Unless people are simply supposed to take your ranting on faith.

    [1] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4178569/
    [2] http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/126/4/656.full
    [3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3484245/

  • bouncedancer

    You’re right — it’s not the vaccine that sheds; rather, the vaccine can CAUSE pertussis in asymptomatic individuals, who then go on to spread it.

    Government info: “DTAP (pertussis portion) – is a bacteria that can remain in the throats of the vaccinated and spread.”

  • Nikka80

    Shedding is not equal to transmission. Documentation of actual transmission is extremely rare.

  • Nikka80

    The Brady Bunch is a medical reference?

  • “Wrong yet again! You don’t know what a dose does to a fetus! ”

    Dose has to do with how much you get relative to weight over time.

    “Do the science .” Your claim = your burden of proof.

    ..”. We have clear proof that epigenetics are changed when a child is exposed to toxins… ”

    You mean, like the toxins from natural immunity to Pertussis and Diptheria? Gee, if only there was some way to prevent that.

    “Only a Pharma hag would continue shooting toxins at 10x the recommended dose for water (which goes through the gut) and shoot it into a human. ”

    It does go through the gut, yes. However, do you drink flu shots by the gallon EVERY DAY?

    “Not one vaccine is tested for fetal outcome”



    “or FDA approved for use in the pregnant ! ”

    Wrong. http://www.fda.gov/downloads/AdvisoryCommittees/CommitteesMeetingMaterials/BloodVaccinesandOtherBiologics/VaccinesandRelatedBiologicalProductsAdvisoryCommittee/UCM471661.pdf

    I suspect you’re referring to the disclaimer on the package insert. A lot of the clinical trial ethics are to do with pregnant women. We have Josef Mengele to blame/thank for this since he liked to kick pregnant women in the stomach repeatedly just to see how long it took them to lose the pregnancy thus, a lot of formal testing simply CAN’T be ethically done on pregnant women.

    “Nothing more toxic than your mindset! Change it now!” All you have to do is show me evidence. So far, I’m not hopeful.

  • houses1

    Big pharma shill reunion I see.

  • bouncedancer

    I want to correct one thing — your link re the research papers showing a vaccine/autism connection is now up to 126.

    I wouldn’t waste the time replying to Jonathan Graham, who is clearly a troll who will get paid per reply!

  • You may be right, and we may as well need to eventually create a policy on vactruth, that no one feeds the trolls, He has however been getting beat on every level of information, and even though his stubborn mind will not admit to it, it gives evidence to the readers looking for the truth, as to what the real agenda consists of regarding these trolls. Lies and denial, filled with more intellectual dishonesty and cognitive dissonance. They will never admit that they are wrong, ever.