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The Media Uses These Powerful Tricks to Condition You to Accept Vaccines

Television is a main vehicle for forming your opinion.

Television is a powerful weapon for molding opinions and tastes.

Many of you know him through his methods, but have never met him.

Edward Bernays is best known in mass media circles as the “Father of Propaganda.” Scientific techniques were developed and used to shape the psychological decisions and opinions of the masses. [1]

For example, he was an important part of the U.S. Committee on Public Information (CPI) during World War I, along with Walter Lippmann and Carl Byoir. The propaganda from CPI sold the war to Americans as one that would “Make the World Safe for Democracy.”

Later in this article, I’ll share with you a little secret about Bernays. But first you should know a little more about his methods.

In 1928, Bernays published an operators manual on mass manipulation entitled Propaganda in which he says on page 37, “… our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.” But more to the point, on page 76 he writes:

“Suppose the old type of salesmanship, acting for a meat packer, was seeking to increase the sale of bacon. It would reiterate innumerable times in full-page advertisements: “Eat more bacon. Eat bacon because it is cheap, because it is good, because it gives you reserve energy.” The newer salesmanship, understanding the group structure of society and principles of mass psychology, would first ask: “Who is it that influences the eating habits of the world?” The answer, obviously, is: “The physicians.” The new salesman will then suggest to physicians to say publicly that it is wholesome to eat bacon. He knows as a mathematical certainty, that large numbers of persons will follow the advice of their doctors, because he understands the psychological relation of dependence of men upon their physicians.” (emphasis mine)

Not a bad recommendation for “1928 science.” If this type of message sounds familiar to you, it should. Today most of the pharmaceutical television commercials end with the phrase, “Just ask your doctor.

Think again if you believe Big Pharma doesn’t use the propaganda techniques mentioned by Bernays. I think the above statement from Bernays ties in nicely if you look at ProPublica’s Dollars for Docs program. [2] This particular report shows over $2 billion dollars being paid to doctors to pimp Pharma’s drugs to you and your children.

But before I get into vaccines, I want to show you a few examples of how the media manipulates information. I promise it will be well worth your time.

What Can a Comedian Teach Us About Propaganda?

Sometimes comedy can teach us complex topics in a matter of seconds, as is the case with American comedian Conan O’Brien. His editors have put together video clips show how you are manipulated by “independent” news stations repeating the same message. This is considered typical propaganda.

As you are watching these videos, imagine how Big Pharma influences the messages of your doctor and medical organizations.

 

Rising Gas Prices

The Easter Bunny’s Springless Steps

Salty Campaign Final Days

Where Can You Enjoy Cyber Monday Sales?

I Scream, You Scream Edition

The End Of E-mail Overload?

 

What Cigarettes Do You Smoke, Doctor?

Before I show you the vaccine clip I put together, I want to let you in the secret I promised to you.

Edward Bernays also worked for the American Tobacco Company. Ever heard of the term “tobacco science?”

The reason for showing you this clip is to demonstrate to you the handy work of Bernays. Doctors are being used as tools to push science funded by the tobacco companies, just like Bernays described they would be.

 

Propaganda and the Polio Vaccine

The polio effort was a benchmark for the public to mentally accept the concept “shots prevent disease” and disease conquered by science.

However, hidden to most Americans was an elaborate Public Relations scheme being carefully and methodically applied to their psyche. Propaganda was used heavily to promote the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis and the March of Dimes solution to the polio epidemics: a vaccine.

If you didn’t know, the polio vaccine was created by culturing the poliovirus on monkey testicles and kidneys. The polio vaccine was later found to be contaminated with the dangerous cancer causing SV40 (Simian Virus 40).

This clip is just a small taste of how American citizens were blanketed with vaccine propaganda.

I hope you can see after watching this clip, the methods used today are similar to the ones used in the 1940s and 1950s.

Edward Bernays had this to say about the use of video or motion pictures in his book Propaganda:

The American motion picture is the greatest unconscious carrier of propaganda in the world today. It is a great distributor for ideas and opinions. The motion picture can standardize the ideas and habits of a nation. Because pictures are made to meet market demands, they reflect, emphasize and even exaggerate broad popular tendencies, rather than stimulate new ideas and opinions. The motion picture avails itself only of ideas and facts which are in vogue. As the newspaper seeks to purvey news, it seeks to purvey entertainment.

The big picture is that the Polio Scare Campaign would provide the everlasting foundation for all the future vaccine programs. Is it by chance the hypnotic words “life saving” and “safe and effective” became synonymous with the word “vaccine” after the polio campaign?

If you don’t believe me, start questioning any vaccine. You will find the most common knee-jerk reaction you get is, “What about polio?

This isn’t to deny children had acute flaccid paralysis, known as polio.

However, there is plenty of evidence available in the scientific medical literature showing vaccines had very little to do with its decline. This topic will be covered more in future articles. If you want a head start, do a search for a paper entitled The Relation Between Recent Injections and Paralytic Poliomyelitis in Children. [3]

Conclusion

The point of this article is to highlight the techniques used by the media, especially using doctors and celebrities to push the pharmaceutical agenda. This tactic certainly can be seen front and center, as there is currently a massive push in the media to deny any link between vaccines and autism.

It certainly doesn’t appear much has changed since the 1950s, has it?

With that, I’d like to end with two actions I want you to take right now.

  1. Download the vaccine ingredients to see what your doctor injects into your child.
  2. Watch the explosive documentary on Edward Bernays entitled The Century of Self. [4]

References

  1. Edward Bernays. Propaganda (1928).
  2. http://projects.propublica.org/docdollars/
  3. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1525737/
  4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prTarrgvkjo

 

Photo Credit

Jeffry John Aufderheide
 

Jeffry John Aufderheide is the father of a child injured as a result of vaccination. As editor of VacTruth.com, he promotes well-educated health professionals, informed consent, and full disclosure and accountability of adverse reactions to vaccines.

  • DrKeteDC

    Thanks for the information you bring out. I am so tired of being treated like a tinfoil hat wearer and it’s a welcome relief to find others who are willing to ignore the superstition surrounding vaccination and tell the truth!

  • Argus

    Keep on pushing your bankrupt notion that vaccines have nothing to do with the eradication of polio, Jeffrey.
    Thankfully those who are in charge of public health decisions know better. Because they rely on actual evidence to make decisions.
    The best example of modern day propaganda I can point to is a website filled with inaccurate medical information and lies about vaccination that proclaims to be telling the’truth’. No wonder links to it have been banned by some websites.

  • brilliant article Jeff!

  • argus you put your trust in fools.

  • Donna Delikat

    my child got 8 vaccinations by the time she weighed 9 pounds at 7 weeks old, another 7 at 13 pounds and 4 months old, and another 6 at 15 pounds and 6 months old. 37 vaccines in total by the time she was a year old. Its TOO MUCH TOO SOON that is causing the problems!!!! All in the name of GREED. I would love to strap you down Argus and inject you 37 times!!!!! YOU FOOL.

  • Lou

    Like the double blind study of vaccinated vs unvaccinated kids …o wait they have never done that..strange…

  • Einstein

    Argus, you are the perfect example of drinking the Kool-Aid and no critical thinking skills … all one needs to do is stop for one minute and ponder the biomechanics of what happens when foreign proteins and toxic substances are injected into the body … allergic reaction every time it is tried … what is the purpose of an immune system if it is not to keep the inside pure? You cannot trick or manipulate the body into accepting this stuff – it causes morbidity to varying degrees every time it is tried – it is a ticking time bomb. Understanding immunity is not rocket science. But 60 years of “safe and effective” and “saves lives” and “you must have them” and worshipping at the altar of modern science has created a population that accepts the absurd notion that you can vaccinate with impunity. You are a tool for the propagandists of vaccines … you really do not want to know … because if you did all you have to do is take one little peek under the rug to see enough EVIDENCE to blow a hole through the wall you have in your brain. There are so many aspects to this controversy … not the least of which is vaccine ingredients and how they poison the body. I suggest that you go ahead and load yourself up with 7 or 8 vaccines now and another 5 or 6 in two months and another bunch two months later and then tell us how good you feel. You are free to believe what you want but if you want us to believe that vaccines make you a healthier person, then prove it on yourself … spend the next year following the current childhood vaccine schedule … go ahead … if they are safe for our children they should be plenty safe for you.

  • GiorgioTremante
  • GiorgioTremante

    How
    long will this Genocide last?

    Vaccine
    reactions and injuries photo gallery Brief description of our tragedy

    To
    prove how much damage vaccinations can do, so indiscriminately used
    on families from all over the world, I think it is necessary for me
    to tell my story. Unfortunately my story is not considered a sole and
    sporadic case in itself, but it is just the tip of the iceberg.
    Vaccinations are still being forced onto people through fear based
    tactics.

    My
    family has been the victim of vaccine injury and three of my four
    children have been irreversibly damaged.

    I
    state that my three children affected by vaccine reaction, were born
    perfectly healthy and that the manifestations of the disease appeared
    only after the first Sabin polio vaccine.

    My
    eldest son’s recorded clinical symptoms, which had appeared after
    the Sabin polio vaccination and correlated through the pediatrician
    to the anti polio vaccine, were as follows . ocular nystagmus,
    tremors and speech defects. It was interesting to see the diagnosis
    of the pediatrician being interpreted differently by other doctors,
    as they had assumed the sudden health problems were to be attributed
    to brain tumors or degenerative encephalopathy, never confirmed by
    any analysis performed on the child.

    My
    eldest son died in 1971 at age six. With the second child, born in
    1970, there were no problems – despite vaccinations received, but
    the drama came up again with the birth of twins in 1976.

    Despite
    my fierce opposition to have my twins vaccinated, a law made it
    mandatory and without any prior investigation, that the shots be
    administered. Already the very next day side effects began to emerge
    and the first signs of change was perceivable and clearly visible.

    I
    submitted the medical records of my twins’ first hospitalizations
    to various Universities in the United States, in England and even in
    Russia. In the latter country it was assumed that my children were
    plagued by a drastically impaired immune system, that confirmed the
    direct cause and link to the vaccinations given to them.

    My
    children were diagnosed with “Metachromatic Leukodystrophy Type”
    by doctors of my city, Verona, Italy. The above mentioned condition
    is a degenerative disease of the nervous system, and has never been
    confirmed by genetic tests to which we subjected ourselves too.

    Later,
    Andrew, one of the twins, had a deterioration of his health and was
    hospitalized for dehydration. Despite my recommendation not to make
    use of immunosuppressive drugs, because the child was Immuno
    Compromised, an infusion of cortisone was administered and five hours
    later Andrew died. Later I learned, that the same drug was also
    administered to my first child before death.

    Despite
    the fact that we would have had useful information to save the life
    of the twins, it was not accepted because we were denied the presence
    of the coroner at the moment when our first son died, so that the
    examination performed by the pediatrician could not be validated and
    applied to our research. One month after the death of Andrew, also
    Albert, the other twin brother, had to be hospitalized.

    Foregoing
    the opinion of doctors to let him die, we were able to have our
    request granted to move him to a Pediatric Intensive Care Unit and we
    had a virologist from Naples (Dr. Tarro) come to attend and who had
    previously examined the child. This doctor from Naples advised to
    apply immuno stimulants. Subjected to treatment with “interferon”,
    the boy began to slowly improve. After six months in the hospital the
    child was brought home with no letter of discharge from the hospital.
    Some time later, medical records that we requested, I noticed that
    they were different from those we photo copied daily during the time
    of hospitalization. Due to this discrepancy we presented a judiciary
    complaint. As a result of our legal action the Attorney of the
    hospital counter sued and declared that this was a case of “Public
    falsification of records”.

    Alberto,
    the twin brother, was admitted at the same hospital in Verona as
    Andrew was too and also in other ICUs: the Policlinico of Milan, in
    the province of Como, Merate, Melegnano, near Milan, and finally was
    transferred to the office from Melegnano to the Hospital of Verona.

    During
    all the various hospital stays my task was to ensure that immune
    therapies were practiced which had given positive results before.
    These therapies were always recommended to us by Professor Tarro of
    Naples, who had been a student of Professor Sabin.

    It
    was always difficult, if not nearly impossible, to apply this type of
    therapy to Alberto, since the medical faculty had already ruled that
    my son should die. This was supported because the cause of the injury
    had been directly correlated to the discovery that it was caused to
    the vaccines given, despite the child was already partially immuno
    compromised.

    Although
    our case had gained the interest and direct involvement of the
    Italian President, Mr. Sandro Pertini, and despite pressure onto the
    Minister of Health, to bring to life a Ministerial Commission through
    Mr. Renato Altissimo, it all fell through due to the falsified data
    that did hide the truth of the damage my son suffered through the
    vaccine.

    During
    the last treatment my son underwent at the Albert Hospital of Verona,
    the doctors were the opinion that my son would die soon. I then tried
    desperately to bring home my baby, since that was their way of
    thinking and because the only solution to the problem for them was
    the culmination of our whole nefarious affair.

    At
    that point a children’s judge of Venice did revoke my “parental
    authority”, which I right away fought and refused to let happen.
    I tried to make him understand that he was committing a gross error.
    I managed to convince the judge to reinstate the parental authority,
    beginning early 1984. I was able to reverse the decision of the court
    by creating a “recovery room” in our home, right in our
    bedroom. During all hospital stays my wife Franca Albert was at our
    son’s side each and every day and every night in order to protect
    our child from any possible medical abuse or more damage.

    Health
    care institutions did not want to admit that vaccines were the cause
    of his illness and death of his brothers and thus they tried every
    possible maneuver to erase leads on it.

    Finally,
    in 1995, by resorting to the law 210 of 1992, recognized by the
    State, the jugde saw the “causation” of the damage suffered
    by subjecting our children to the vaccination requirement.

    During
    all these years I ADOP was established. An association in Italy that
    has been gathering information and data from people who have suffered
    damage from vaccination practices;

    I
    also tried to push for a law, to remove the mandatory practices of
    administering these vaccines, but this goal was not achieved in
    Italy, because, in my opinion, the health care industry has been
    dominated by the corrupt power of the Multinational Drug monopolies.
    All this is proving that even in this area, some pseudo-science of
    gross arrogance and devoid of all scruples, tramples on people and
    the vaccine victims. Illegal practices that did override all human
    and civil rights. It imposes its power based primarily on speculative
    interests without giving any accurate information on the potential
    dangers associated with vaccines, but rather of a deliberate
    misinformation and complete cover-up up to promoting that it is to
    the prophylactic prevention of illnesses.

    Giorgio
    Tremante

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  • Becky Hastings

    Brilliant article Jeff. I think something we have to remember is that those who have been victims of propaganda have been deceived. It is the nature of deception, that you do not realize you have been deceived. One by one we have to keep stating the facts and praying that the truth will break down the well constructed walls that have been built and re-enforced so intentionally for so long. There are many ‘good’ people who are thoroughly convinced vaccines are ‘good.’ They do not know they are the victims.

  • Thanks Becky. We all have been deceived to a large degree.

  • Thanks for reading, Anna! :)

  • Rob

    http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/03/25/outside-the-box-video-series-psywar/ is another good documentary on the history of propaganda. Once you realize what is going on, you can see through it.

  • Argus, have you read where there is more than the poliovirus causing “polio”? For example, if you research polio or infantile paralysis and look up coxsackie virus or echovirus, I think you will find they are well documented causing the same condition. This is right out of Field’s Virology, by the way.

    The part you have to explain, then, is why only polioviruses were in the vaccine – they didn’t cover the others (that’s assuming the vaccine even worked.).

    I can also tell you didn’t read the entire article because I’ve also left you with a paper to review showing how injections were causing paralysis — (this is before “The Wyeth Problem”).

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1525737/

  • Hi DrKeteDC –

    You’re welcome and thank YOU for your comment.

  • Rob

    It is the data that shows polio vaccine did nothing. The new infection rate was very low, when the vaccine was introduced. Is it preventing it today? Is there a study comparing those who get the vaccine and those that do not? No. So do we really know? We thought the flu vaccine was so great until a study was done a few years ago (oh- don’t bother – we all know it works the researcher was told). The so-called benefit was ALL due to the “healthy patient effect”. There was no benefit at all found (in elderly, the focus of the study). So show me some data to back up your claim.

  • Argus

    These responses are priceless . . . all you can seem to do is call me names and express your unfounded opinions which are contrary to science.

  • This is one of the best articles I have read on the over all propaganda with in the Medical field. I always point out the circular logic used to promote vaccines with the “heard immunity” argument. That argument itself is an admission vaccines DO NOT and NEVER have worked! But it illustrates how masterful the propaganda really is. Some of the most intelligent people buy into the patentely ridiculous notion of “heard immunuty”

  • I have to add to my statement…this is how stupid “heard immunity” is. According to “heard immunity” everyone is protected if everyone gets vaccinated…which is never going to happen, but the supposition is that if the virus is introduced into the population because of “heard immunity” they are protected. But the idea relies on everyone to get vaccinated, but it is supposed to protect you form those who are not vaccinated, but everyone needs to be vaccinated in order for “heard immunity to work to protect us from those who aren’t vaccinated……circular logic…which is neither logic nor scientific!!!!

  • notsofree

    What do, Vaccine, Pharma, Homosex, Contraception, Same sex “marriage,” abortion, Cosmetics, obama/liberal policies all have in common???? They are all continually promoted by the media, there is never a negative word against these evils uttered by the media, they all result in a premature death, they all result in a loss of true liberty.

  • notsofree

    Just to add to your astute observation….Humans don’t form “herds.” Animals form herds, human beings form families and we are protected by loving mothers and fathers, shelter, cleanliness, cultivation of healthy food and forming social networks that will benefit our survival.

    Mass vaccine

  • Argus

    “The part you have to explain, then, is why only polioviruses were in the vaccine – they didn’t cover the others”
    Really? Moving the goalposts by claiming that polio vaccine has to cover EVERY disease agent that causes similar symptoms?
    I guess that fits with your logic that vaccines that are less than 100% effective are no good.
    Again I will state that I am glad that people that think like this are not in charge of making public health decisions.

  • Ned

    yeah psuedo, junk science…Argus

  • Pauline

    Now (April 2013) in Wales (UK) there is an outbreak of measles. We are being flooded with scare stories in the media and this has caused thousands of terrified people to queue for hours for vaccinations. They are pushing the idea that the reason for this outbreak is that mothers refused the MMR vaccine in the 90s when the controversy regarding vacs and autism was prevalent. It is all their fault! Having been a member of vactruth ever since my grandson was born one year ago, and had an interest previously when I worked in a specialist college and was horrified by the huge increase in numbers of young people with autism, Dr Wakefield’s theories seemed to be really worth listening to.

    There seems to be a big push on at the moment to denigrate him yet again. There was a very biased and unfair article in The Guardian last Saturday by a writer who did not give his name! They went on and on about how Wakefield has made lots of money from books and lectures in the USA with no mention of how much money big pharma makes from vaccines! Of course, they blamed him (along with all the mothers) for the outbreak of measles. I am so angry about this unamed article that I shall be writing to the newspaper to complain, however, I do not hold out much hope that they will print my letter.

    I caught measles, along with my sister and two brothers when I was ten years old. We were ill for about 2 weeks then recovered – as did everyone at that time. It was rare for there to be complications.

    Does anyone have anything to add to this scare in Wales? Most of the ‘victims’ of this outbreak are aged 10/16 and above. It seems to have given the media meat to condemn those who choose not to vaccinate their children and, of course, Dr Wakefield. Is Big Pharma losing profits? There seems to have been several books, articles and films produced recently against Big Pharma. Is this their attempt to reinforce the brainwashing of the population to secure their profits?

  • URSULARICHES

    In Japan, they start vaccinations at 2 years old and there is not any SID sudden infant death syndrome. I queried so many vaccinations as an 18 yr old mam, before the 80s, missing out early vacs, refusing whooping cough and spacing them out, now I resist vacs but may consider one or two.

  • URSULARICHES

    Why do we not allow parents who do not wish to have them NOT to have ANY vaccinations for their children and compare the two groups? Why are vaccines pushed as if they were compulsory and why are they made compulsory in many nations?

  • URSULARICHES

    It is not as if the governments actually care about people!

  • URSULARICHES

    They all are against human life.

  • URSULARICHES

    Has everyone noticed the attacks on the family to the point where many do not stay together because of financial penalties for doing so? Why can the mums and dads not share a double tax allowance for a start? They hate humanity & human life that is why!

  • URSULARICHES

    Try talking to the Catholic charities and tear fund. Perhaps you can ask some charities NOT to give vaccines? Do not bother with Bill Gates ones- he is a genocidist.

  • URSULARICHES

    I have been told that my 2 children have not had their preschool MMR- and they are now in their teens. The computers were down when I went a bit late to the clinic. We have been offered annual flu shots, swine flu, gardasil and another MMR but not taken them up. I refuse to sign consent forms. My children have been told that they can choose to have any vaccinations but without my consent and if they have side effects they should have listened to me and researched properly beforehand.

  • natasha

    Brilliant article! Thank you for all your work.

  • notsofree

    The Holy Family and Holy Church is the enemy to tyranny. Medical addiction, sex addiction, drug addiction, vanity addictions are the tools of tyranny/media/merchants to strip individuals of God given worth. Without God we are all objects to be shaken and massaged to relieve us of money, sex, dignity, and life. There is no remorse, no consequence, no guilt, no capitalism, just social tweaking to get the most out of our stinking rotting carcasses.

  • Barb

    Not sure why you visit or comment here Argus, your comments are based on beliefs not facts, an open minded person let’s the evidence tell the story, there are many doctors who don’t vaccinate their own children and/or have gone on the record stating that vaccines are harmful, it’s ridiculous & defies common sense to argue otherwise.

    Those who suffer adverse events aren’t just statistics on paper, they’re real, previously healthy children/people with families who love them who learned the truth the hard way.

    Those in charge of public policy, who supposedly know better don’t have the best track record so this doesn’t help your argument, the fox (gov bodies comprised of past and current Rx company employees) is not a valid “expert” on how best to protect the henhouse…it’s a purely profit driven, not evidenced based model.

    In this day of free speech and anything goes the banning of this website sends a message loud and clear, vactruth poses a threat to vaccine makers, censorship is alive and well when the powers that be don’t like the conversation…you can show graphic violence and pornography on daytime TV but don’t you dare speak against the poor misunderstood Rx companies…

  • Guess you don’t want to read Fields Virology.

  • Argus

    “Guess you don’t want to read Fields Virology.”

    How do you know that I haven’t already?

    And what’s the point? I did not dispute that infections from coxsackie and echoviruses can produce symptoms similar to one that are seen with poliovirus.

    Looks like another attempt by Jeffrey to try to change the subject in the hope that no one will notice that he can not support his own statements.

  • I don’t have to, your “supporting” responses are more than ample. Thanks again.

  • Argus

    “your comments are based on beliefs not facts”
    You have this reversed.

    “an open minded person let’s the evidence tell the story”
    It’s not open-minded to pretend that opinions and anectdotes are the facts and that Information obtained through scientific observation is not evidence. Again, backwards.

    “there are many doctors who don’t vaccinate their own children and/or have gone on the record stating that vaccines are harmful”
    There are some – but not very many and some of them have been professionally disgraced. How does that overrule the 99.999% (est) of doctors that believe that vaccines should be used to prevent disease?

    “Those who suffer adverse events aren’t just statistics on paper, they’re real, previously healthy children/people with families who love them . . .”

    I don’t disagree with this statement – up to the point quoted. Harmful adverse events from vaccinations are extremely rare. Adverse outcomes from the diseases they prevent are even more devastating. It’s not as though there is a choice to make that involves absolutely no risk.

    “Those in charge of public policy, who supposedly know better don’t have the best track record so this doesn’t help your argument, the fox (gov bodies comprised of past and current Rx company employees) is not a valid “expert” on how best to protect the henhouse…it’s a purely profit driven, not evidenced based model.”

    That’s just your opinion. Given a choice between trained medical professionals and scientists making these decisions, or individuals that received their education using Google search and reading other peoples opinions and stories, I will take the former.

    “In this day of free speech and anything goes the banning of this website sends a message loud and clear, vactruth poses a threat to vaccine makers, censorship is alive and well when the powers that be don’t like the conversation…you can show graphic violence and pornography on daytime TV but don’t you dare speak against the poor misunderstood Rx companies…”

    There’s no free speech principle involved here and I’ll bet vaccine manufacturers hardly know that the “Vactruth” website even exists, let alone being threatened by it. But many members of the public have viewed it and voted on its trustworthiness at WOT. Now that’s free speech in action.

  • Argus

    There is a great quote in the article at the link below. I think it really applies to this website and all the “supporters” that post here:

    “The reality here is that science is hard. It requires deep and long-term training to understand the ractions in ecosystems or microchips or intestines. If a doctor said you had stomach cancer, would you consult Rush Limbaugh for a second opinion? Of course, that sounds like nonsense, but many Americans have no qualms about listening to political commentators and untrained activists when it comes to even more complex scientific questions. In essence, the greater amount of training it takes to understand something, the more likely, it seems, that Americans will turn to people with shallow knowledge for guidance.”

    http://www.vanityfair.com/online/eichenwald/2013/04/creeping-danger-conspiracy-theorists

  • Argus

    Science is hard, isn’t it, Dana?
    Well when you start off with an incorrect explanation of what herd immunity is, everything you build on that is also wrong.
    Why don’t you read up on it at a useful web site like this one:

    http://www.vaccines.gov/basics/protection

  • notsofree

    Your belief in man-made artificial immunity is easy. Few have the courage to live out true “science.”

    Those of us who are skeptical of pharma believe the “researchers” are anecdotal/pretend for money, power, and further work. Of course you think that could never occur. Our side has no financial agenda.

    Never follow someone who is leading out of fear of being “professionally disgraced.” Leaders who have a vision of human greatness and aren’t concerned about the opinions of others are worth following!!

  • notsofree

    Read your history. Propagandists are always the ones with the power!!! The vaccine skeptics have no power, have no money, and have no popularity. Should make one wonder why anybody would even want to join this group of skeptics???? Freeman Dyson from the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton is quoted as saying “I think any good scientist ought to be a skeptic.”

  • Wow Argus, imagine that, you posting a government website, with literally nothing but stick people as an illustration, and with absolutely no science to back any claims that were made. Do you understand the difference between naturally derived herd immunity and so called vaccine derived herd immunity? One is real and one is fake. In your mind there is no difference at all, right? Why would you think they are one and the same? Just like the misguided and to much to lose the truth be known, Paul “For Profit” Offit, who claims that injecting vaccines is the same thing as natural exposure to pathogens. As well he claims that injecting vaccines is exactly the same thing in regard to dietary exposure to aluminum and mercury, (falsely claiming they are handled by the human body and detoxed the same way). Where is his actual physiological science to back that claim? He has never had any, nor has the CDC; not ever. Find me the safety studies, Argus; they do not exist. In contrast numerous studies exist showing the direct mechanism of harm of both vaccine aluminum adjuvants, and Thimerosal. They are published right in Pubmed, ever been there and actually looked?

    The False Theory of Vaccine Derived – Herd Immunity
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-theory-of-vaccine-derived—herd-immunity.html

    April is autism awareness month, so what does the Journal of Pediatrics do to counter the latest number released by the CDC of there being now 1 in 50 children with ASD; and to counter all the obvious parental concern. You guessed it; they simply produced another, and THIS clearly bogus study.

    New Junk Science Study – No link between ‘too many vaccines’ and autism risk
    http://www.vacfacts.info/new-junk-science-study—no-link-between-too-many-vaccines-and-autism-risk.html

    Aluminum Adjuvants – Lack of Safety Data – Lack of Aluminum Adjuvant Safety Studies
    http://www.vacfacts.info/aluminum-vaccine-adjuvants.html

    The Vaccine Damage Science
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-vaccine-damage—science.html

    Vaccine Contamination
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-contamination.html

    If you want a full dose of the real and existing unbiased vaccine science, and as well the real historical vaccine data, Argus; you go to this site right here. Plan on spending at least couple weeks educating yourself. http://www.vacfacts.info/index.html

  • I want you Argus, to listen to this video and what is stated by Shaun Siegal, as he outlines the reclassification and diagnosis of the polio shortly after it was realized that the polio vaccine was not working and creating more polio, not less. Listen to him state, thats where polio went. What do you not understand about that polio was in major decline before the polio vaccine was invented? What do you not understand about the issues of DDT and as well whole scale removal of tonsils at the time. None of that had any affect? Do you have any argument with the statements made in that video; if so, please outline it specifically? Don’t even bother telling me that videos are not science, Argus; because you and the CDC clearly have no actual science, to start with.

    Alex Jones w/ Shawn Siegel & Marcella Piper-Terry “The Vaccine Myth:

    http://youtu.be/PVTbXdh_JBA

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign

    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

    Scientific proof that the known cancer causing SV40 virus, a previous contaminant in the polio vaccine, is obviously either contagious; or the virus is still in the vaccine/s.

    http://www.vacfacts.info/scientific-proof-that-the-known-cancer-causing-sv40-virus-a-previous-contaminant-in-the-polio-vaccine-is-obviously-either-contagious-or-the-virus-is-still-in-the-vaccines.html

    The SV40 Virus: Has Tainted Polio Vaccine Caused An Increase in Cancer?

    http://www.nvic.org/vaccines-and-diseases/Polio-SV40/BLFTestimonySV40.aspx

    The Exploding Autoimmune Epidemic – Dr. Tent – It’s Not Autoimmune Published on Dec 27, 2012

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8FCJ_VPyns

    Wow what a success story polio vaccine was, Argus.

  • Really Argus, unfounded? So then, where are your vaccine safety studies? You know, the science you always claim to? CDC funded epidemiological studies on one vaccine and one vaccine ingredient? You call that sufficient? Please list any other studies the CDC done or has funded? Vaccine efficacy science amounts to what? Pharma does a vaccine clinical trial and notes that there were an increase in resulting antibodies to the vaccine antigen, and enough to pass FDA standards for approval. The only issue with providing immunity (immunization) amounts to showing an increase in vaccine derived antibodies? And in over 100 years that is all they understand regarding the immune system? The CDC states it, it has to be true, right? And in over 100 years, why have they not learned anything as well about how vaccines actually dysregulate and harm the function of immune system? You don’t think they would have to much to lose, do they; if they admitted to that? Priceless, is the selective denial that you continually present with, and as well end up being having exposed.

  • All you are doing Argus is repeatedly parroting the false CDC propaganda you were fed. Nothing would be enough, and your agenda is definitely not one of truth; but persistent denial. What exactly is your level of conflict of interest, anyway?

  • The Creeping Danger of Conspiracy Theorists??? Vanity Fair??? LOL! I have seen it all, now. You had a Pubmed article put in front of you, and you respond with that. Amazing. What, no reference to the Gorski, no actual science there, blog?

  • Vaccines, the science. In memory of Ryan
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giJbq4NYGE8

    Autism Speaks Does Not Speak For Me!!!! Dr. Mayer Eisenstein
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVns2ytdZDE

    Why you should NEVER, NEVER support nor donate to, Autism Speaks!

    Number Of Early Childhood Vaccines Not Linked To Autism

    Excerpt:

    Autism Speaks, a major advocacy and research group, seems ready to move beyond the vaccine issue. Geraldine Dawson, the group’s top scientist, praised the new study and says the result should clear the way for research on other potential causes of autism.

    These include factors like nutrition, which can affect a baby’s brain development in the womb, Dawson says. Other factors could include medications and infections during pregnancy, she says, or an infant’s exposure to pesticides or pollution.

    “As we home in on what is causing autism, I think we are going to have fewer and fewer questions about some of these things that don’t appear to be causing autism,” Dawson says.

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/03/29/175626824/the-number-of-early-childhood-vaccines-not-linked-to-autism

    Look, again here; absolutely NO mention of biomedical treatment of these vaccine harmed children, and only maintaining the standard medical community types of care and therapy; that have of course proven be be only minimally effective. Looking for any cause but vaccines, and forthe most part looking for no causation at all. And this is the only funding so called authority that you ever see looking for donations at convenience stores, department stores and as well grocery stores, etc. Most of that money as well goes to high salaries of those at the top of this so called Autism Speaks, organization. They speak, for NOTHING!

    Biomedical Treatment in Autism (ASD)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/biomedical-treatment-in-autism-asd.html

    Autism Speaks: Where The Money Goes
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fc_qtWxMes

    Autism Speaks Hosts World’s First Autism Investment Conference
    http://www.autismspeaks.org/science/science-news/autism-speaks-hosts-world%E2%80%99s-first-autism-investment-conference

    Check out how Autism Speaks wastes their donated funding money.

    Autism Speaks
    http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=12720

  • URSULARICHES

    But Jesus has called people sheep without a shepherd and sheep do live in herds and have herd mentality. May our shepherd be Jesus who is truth and love of humanity and may He lead us as a herd away from harm.

  • MA

    I READ IN IMMENSE SADNESS OF ALL THE ATROCITIES OF THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE BIG PHARMAS FARMING TOOLS IN ENSURING MAXIMUM DAMAGE AT THE HANDS OF MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE TRAINED BY THE MEDICATION ASSOCIATIONS GLOBALLY. THE SCUMS HAVE INVESTED HEAVILY IN THIS SCIENCE KNOWN AS HEALING TO GAIN IN THEIR POCKETS ONLY. THE HUMAN DNA AND ALL CREATION PLANT AND ANIMAL LIFE WAS MADE ONCE FIT FOR THE PURPOSE FOR LIFE…ALONG THE WAY POWER PLAYERS IN DNA DAMAGE PLAYED GOD AND DID THE SCUM DIRT ON US ALL GLOBALLY. EVERY PENNY THE SCUMS MAKE FROM HUMAN DEMISE WILL HAUNT THEM AS THEIR IS A CREATOR OF ALL CREATIONS WHO WILL NO LONGER MAKE EARTH A HOME FOR EVEN SCUMS. SO SCUMS BE AWARE THAT TIME IS HERE TO GET YOU. WHEN ELITE SCUMS ATTACK THE HUMAN CREATION SOURCE I EXPECT THE SOURCE WILL ATTACK ALL IN GOOD TIME. ONCE THERE WAS ALPHA AND NOW THERE IS OMEGA.

  • MA

    GIORGIO

    I READ YOUR ARTICLE AND LIKE ALL HUMANE HUMANS WE SHARE YOUR PAIN. THE POWER OF THESE SCUMS IS BEYOND HUMANE COMPREHENSION. I AM IN THE SAME STATE OF PAIN DUE TO MODERN MEDICAL NEGLIGENCE TO DNA AND TRIED TO SUE THE STATE OF SCUMS BUT SADLY AS FOUND STATE IS PROTECTED BY SCUMS. NO MEDIA WILL PROMOTE OUR PAIN AS THE STATE OF SCUMS HAVE BOUGHT ALL THESE MEDIA POWER PLAYERS WHO USE OUR PAIN AND LOSS AS A GAIN. I PRAY THE CREATOR WILL HEAL YOUR PAIN AND ALL PAIN IN CREATION ALL IN DUE TIME.

    REGARDS MA.

  • MA

    BEFORE JESUS THERE IS A CREATOR WHO WAS THE CREATOR OF ALL. SHE STILL IS IN SOME RELIGIONS THAT ARE UNKNOWN SHE IS KNOWN AS MOTHER OF CREATION; SHE PROMISED TO COME IN PERSON TO CLEAN THE HUMANS AND ALL CREATIONS FROM DESTRUCTION…THIS MOTHER OF CREATION IS ONLY KNOWN FOR ONE RELIGION LOVE AND PEACE CREATING A BELONGING TO MOTHER EARTH ONLY. SHE WILL HAVE MAMMOTH TASK TO CLEAN UP…HOPES SHE GOT GOOD TUSKS.

  • The only sensible one here

    Are you seriously all retarded? Vaccines save lives, that’s been proven time and time again and for some reason you still hang on the words of crackpot conspiracy theorists?! Jesus, it’s idiocy like this that almost makes me ashamed to be human! I hope you all contract measles, TB and Polio as punishment for your stupidity! As for the person who wrote this article, I hope you get yours! How dare you exploit the ignorant like this! Now a bunch more kids will not get vaccinated and possibly die because their idiot parents read your bullshit article and took it for fact.

    In case anyone isn’t clear there is NO evidence that vaccines are harmful in any significant way to your child’s health or development. There is however a TON of evidence, that if you do not get your child vaccinated then they will more likely contract a very serious disease which could be fatal.

    Whoever wrote this article is a scare monger, trying to exploit the ignorant to their own ends, probably to try and make money and to be honest, anyone who doesn’t realise that probably deserves to have all their money scammed off of them.

    Don’t let people like this endanger your children’s lives. In the UK there are now a great deal of children who are dealing with measles because their parents were anti-vaccination, this is now almost getting to the point of epidemic. Now the parents are not only all admitting they were wrong but now they are begging the doctors, who until recently they shunned, to save the live of their child.

    Bottom line;
    Don’t believe everything you read or hear. Do some research on a reputable websites or texts, ask a professional but please, please, please do not endanger your child just because you are too stupid too see the facts right in front of your face.

    Also, whoever wrote this article needs to be shot for the good of the human race!

  • Lyle

    THANKS FOR SCREAMING YOUR REPLY IN ALL CAPS. It does not help the discussion.

  • Argus trollcaller

    Science is especially hard when you don’t have the ability to tell the difference between sales propaganda and credible information.

    Why does Argus bother. Perhaps this is the only way he could get his parents to pay attention to him?

  • AntiVaccineGrandmother

    Hi Giorgio: Greetings to you and your family. I spent many summers in Italy and LOVE Italy very much. It saddens me to hear that when it comes to vaccines, the lies are all the same no matter where you live. I am German but live in America and recently became a grandmother (2011). We had no idea how toxic vaccines are and only had concerns regarding Autism. The day after her birth, my grand-daughter received a vaccine for Hep. B. Nine weeks later she received a 5in1 vaccine incl. pertussis of course. Exactly on the 7th day she fell unconscious and nearly died. She bled in the brain and suffered a stroke. In America, when a child suffers a hematoma from a vaccine injury, none of the doctors look at vaccines (because that would mean admitting that vaccines are toxic and can cause brain injury). Instead, they accuse the parents (or the last caregiver) of having shaken the child so violently that it started to bleed in the brain. Now imagine that you are totally clueless about what happened to your baby and you are being accused of having shaken this beautiful precious little baby? You tell them but they don’t listen. My grand-daughter WAS NOT SHAKEN. The fact that she had no bruising, no broken bones, no retinal hemmhoraging should have clued them in. But they ignored all that. My daughter lost custody of her daughter, her boyfriend is still in jail and has been accused of having shaken her. We have two doctors confirm that she had a bleeding/blood clotting disorder. We have done EXTENSIVE research and I have personally spoken to Dr. Yazbak in Massachussetts. He strongly recommends to never be alone with a recently vaccinated infant because if the infant gets sick (or dies) the last caregiver is always looked at for possible abuse and may spend years in prison. My grand-daughter’s Vitamin K level dropped so low that she had a severe blood clotting disorder. The antibiotics in vaccines, especially neomycin, destroy the gut flora which produces this vital vitamin K. And the hospital knew this. They tested her and the test results speak for themselves, yet they did not go back and notify the authorities that their initial assessment was wrong. They ignored the vaccine as possible cause and could not figure out what happened to her. How can you diagnose something correctly as a physician when you DON’T HAVE ALL THE FACTS or ignore them? Instead, the hospital continued on and even lied in juvenile court. It took 11 months for my grand-daughter to be returned into our custody. We had to fear for her life almost on a daily basis because the child protective agency wanted to vaccinate her as part of her regular medical care. We objected especially since she had/has seizures and it clearly states on the vaccine information leaflets that children with seizures should not be vaccinated. Pediatricians are so ignorant and we had to constantly argue with her. My grand-daughter would have died if we had not figured out that her hematoma came from the vaccines. The doctors would not tell us and the stupid pediatrician still thinks we “made a big mistake” by not vaccinating my grand-daughter. My grand-daughter is now almost 2 years old. She is recovering and improving quite a lot but at a slow pace (brain injuries take a long time to heal). She cannot walk yet but her balance skills are greatly improving, she still has visiual issues (cortical blindness) and she does see but not perfectly yet. She cannot talk but babbles and is always in a good mood, smiles a lot and loves her mom and grandma. We have seen many improvements, she receives therapy and she is very active and loves music. We only feed her organic milk, water and foods. She also receives a very expensive liquid vitamin (incl. over 200 vitamins, minerals, amino acids, etc). We recently were told that her EEG is normal indicating recovery. We know her brain is healing because of all the little improvements. Of course it takes time. Her neurosurgeon is very positive about her future. Due to local laws, we cannot even sue. We hope that my grand-daughter’s father will be either tried (and found not guilty) or released soon. His attorney recently received a report from a forensic doctor who also indicated that she had a bleeding disorder. We hope that this evidence can be presented in court. The lies and the coverup about vaccines is so tremendously HUGE that it almost feels like a bad Sci-Fi movie. I cannot understand why so many doctors continue to vaccinate children with this toxic witches brew. Their conscience must be dead. if I were a doctor and would realize what we are doing I would immediately seize vaccinating. Just look at the statistics for Autism, SIDS, childhood brain tumors (just ask St. Jude’s childen hospital), ADHD, bi-polar disorder, schizophrenia, childhood obesity and diabetes, they are all on the rise in record numbers. AND THESE IDIOTS OUT THERE STILL PRETEND THEY DON’T KNOW THE CAUSE? I tell everybody I know about the toxicity of vaccines and what happened to us. We are writing a book. Meanwhile, many parents still trust their pediatrician and allow their beautiful, most precious little angels to be injected with this toxic witches brew aka vaccine. I don’t have the resources but I say it again, we need to form some sort of alliance (on one web site). Only if Congress and Big Pharma gets confronted with thousands of stories of vaccine injury and deaths will they possibly listen. We need to put pressure on our Governments and in the meantime tell everybody you know. Even if they don’t believe you, just planting a little seed of truth can turn into a tree.

  • AntiVaccineGrandmother

    I almost feel sorry for you and your ingorance. You bought the bullshit hook, line and sinker. you still have not realized that all these reports are part of the propaganda mill? Measles are not dangerous. If you took the time to really research with an open mind, you would quickly realize that most “childhood” diseases are NOT deadly and as I recently read (written by a physician) are actually A VITAL part of forming an immune system. And you obviously still have not figured out why nobody wants to admit that vaccines are mostly useless and definitely toxic? Massive lawsuits for the next 20 years and massive loss of revenue $$$$$$$. Profits from vaccines are in the billions. You think they want to give that up? ALL VACCINES ARE BRAIN TOXIC. Do you honestly think that injecting mercury and aluminum into an infants blood stream (totally bypassing the liver for filtration) is a good way to prevent disease and to create an immune system? Please, before you spew out more insults, educate yourself. It’s really hard to debate anything with someone as ignorant as you. And keep an open mind or you will never learn the truth about anything. The first step to wisdom is to admit that you really don’t know anything.

  • Argus

    “You bought the bullshit hook, line and sinker.”

    It’s funny that you should say this, then go on to spout a bunch of unproven lies you read on other antivax websites.

    This isn’t even the pot calling the kettle black. It’s the soot-covered pot calling the new. shiny, copper kettle black.

  • AntiVaccineGrandmother

    yes, science is hard but don’t overcomplicate things. You only have to study mercury and aluminum (never mind the other toxic ingredients) to know that no matter what “benefit” vaccines promise, the toxicity of these two components are simply too great a risk to take. Yes, it is that simple. And, there are a good number of honest doctors out there who will confirm this. Besides, as I stated before, those childhood illnesses are not as dangerous as the media and Big Pharma claims. I have never heard of anyone dying from a childhood disease but I have heard of deaths from vaccines. The entire vaccine industry is based on lies.
    Recently, an independent mercury study showed that mercury causes damage to the brain in 20 different ways, no surprise to me. see, not hard at all to understand and then there is always a dictionary……

  • MA

    LYLE THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFECTIVE FEEDBACK ON ETIQUETTE ON LEAVING COMMENTS THAT ARE NOT MEANT TO BE OFFENSIVE OF A MANNER OF SCREAMING, IF THERE ARE PROTOCOLS ON LEAVING COMMENTS IF IN UPPERCASE OR LOWER CASE PLEASE PROVIDE ME THE STANDARD IN ORDER FOR ME TO COMPREHEND THE PROTOCOLS OF DISCUSSIONS. MY INTENTION IS NOT TO SCREAM BUT I PREFER TO USE UPPERCASE AS IT IS MY STYLE OF COMMUNICATION. I HAVE NOT HAD COMMENTS ON THAT USAGE FROM ANY OF THE COMMENTS I LEAVE SO IT DOES NOT HELP IN DISCUSSIONS OF A VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF DISCUSSIONS AND GRAMMAR USAGE. REGARDS LYLE. LETS CONCENTRATE ON THE BIG PICTURE OF REAL ISSUES.

  • Argus

    How much mercury is found in the MMR vaccine?
    Why is the one fourth of a milligram of aluminum in some doses of vaccine the problem when up to 10 milligrams a day is ingested in food sources by most individuals?

  • Look how BADLY we have been lied to AGAIN about the so great success of as well the measles vaccine!!! Vaccine efficacy is nothing but a myth on every front.

    The Great Measles Misunderstanding
    http://www.planetc1.com/cgi-bin/n/v.cgi?c=1&id=1205211519

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign
    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

    Children Worldwide Are Contracting The Very Diseases They Are Being Vaccinated Against
    http://preventdisease.com/news/13/020113_Children-Worldwide-Are-Contracting-The-Very-Diseases-They-Are-Being-Vaccinating-Against.shtml

    Vaccine Contamination
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-contamination.html

    Vaccine Quackery and Harm – Proven – Plain and Simple
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-quackery-and-harm—proven—plain-and-simple.html

  • Ok Argus, lets talk about something shiny. How about vaccine aluminum adjuvants? Did you even realize that the CDC has never had any safety data, and not one single aluminum adjuvant safety study to claim to. Neither does Paul Offit at CHOP. Why are they not funding any studies? Because they already know the truth, and what those studies would show. They have to much to lose, which is clearly everything.

    Aluminum Adjuvants – Lack of Safety Data – Lack of Aluminum Adjuvant Safety Studies
    http://www.vacfacts.info/aluminum-vaccine-adjuvants.html

    Argus, take a look at all the real and existing science you can find right in Pubmed, showing the direct mechanisms of harm of both aluminum adjuvants and as well Thimerosal.
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-vaccine-damage—science.html

  • Did you see anyone here ever claim that the MMR vaccine contained mercury? The MMR vaccine has problems entirely of its own accord, and separate from the heavy metals issue of other vaccines. Did you know that the MMR vaccine was made with use of aborted fetal cells, Argus? Here is a study for you.

    June 3, 2010
    SCPI Study on Aborted Fetal DNA in Vaccines Presented at International Meeting for Autism Research
    http://www.cogforlife.org/scpiautismstudypress.htm

    For Scientific Data: Homologous Recombination Study
    http://www.cogforlife.org/SCPIIMFARHR.pdf

    The MMR vaccine is made by use of aborted fetal tissue; more specifically, MRC-5 and WI-38. For a list of other vaccines that are as well made with and by the use of human diploid tissue, a list of those vaccines is in the link below.

    Vaccines, Abortion, & Fetal Tissue
    http://media.rtl.org/pdf/VaccinesPrint.pdf

    Vaccines using aborted fetal cell lines
    http://www.cogforlife.org/vaccineinfo.htm
    http://www.cogforlife.org/vaccineListOrigFormat.pdf

    And Argus, where do you get the idea that dietary ingestion of aluminum is the same exact thing as injecting vaccine aluminum adjuvants directly into the human body with a needle? Oh thats right, Paul Offit claims to that; but he has absolutely no physiological science to back that claim; and nor does the CDC. If you think there is no harm done, then why does all this data and science exist showing that indeed there clearly is and can be harm that is done?

    The Real Studies
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-vaccine-damage—science.html

  • Jim Bob

    Lowell,
    Every link you posted contains no useful information other then links to other anti-science and anti-vaccination pages. Please leave your keyboard and go to a college or university to get access to actual research please.
    A degree from Google U is not a replacement for actual intelligence.

  • Jim Bob

    The only sensible one here:
    Wow. I’ve kind always wanted to say something like this here but I never have at the risk of alienating some of those with non-extremist views who might actually be able to see reason.
    While everything you say is 100% true, you might be able to convince them with an argument like this:
    Anti-vaxxers share the same ideology as Al-Qaeda and other Islamic terrorist groups. Both Al-Qaeda and the anti-vax community are against vaccination and believe it is a plot by the US government to destroy muslims worldwide as evidence by the murder of vaccination volunteers in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Yes, you heard it correct. Sites like vactruth, ageofautism and safeminds are spreading the message of Al Qaeda.
    After reading this, it really should put the emphasis on the kind of quacks and information that is being heralded as “truth” by the writers of this webpage. Moreover, it really shows to fanatical views of anti-vaxxers since they are more then willing to share the company of terrorists to spread their message.

  • wingy

    Can you see past your nose ?

  • All my vaccine harm and the links to ASD science collected comes from sources as well published in Pubmed, is there any reason that does not suit your needs? Quite obviously you are unable to face the facts nor handle the truth, Jim Bob! Nothing would be enough. So, in other words you want to cherry pick the science, and you will accept only those studies acknowledged by the CDC. How many studies have they the CDC funded? The answer is one single epidemiological study on the MMR vaccine and one on Thimerosal. None on anything else and none on multiple vaccines, and none on vaccine contamination. Tell me again, all the needed science is in? When was the last time you had access to any real physiological based study on the safety of vaccines? When was the last time you can say you had in hand any study on actual and real vaccine efficacy? Maybe the proclaimed 10,000 vaccines in one day are safe Paul Offit has one on that CHOP site; go look? Nothing there, as a fact; nor at the CDC.

    The Vaccine Damage – Science
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-vaccine-damage—science.html

    Aluminum Adjuvants – Lack of Safety Data – Lack of Aluminum Adjuvant Safety Studies
    http://www.vacfacts.info/aluminum-vaccine-adjuvants.html

    Vaccine Production With – Human Diploid Cells (aborted fetal cell tissue)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-production-with—human-diploid-cells-aborted-fetal-cell—tissue.html

  • Someone Else

    So-Called “sensible one” and “Jim Bob” – you are a pair of nasty trolls. Why do Vaccine manufacturers demand total legal immunity for damage caused by the vaccines they manufacture? If responsibility for causing harm is too great a risk for them to assume, why should a parent put their child’s life on the line to test their science. You are free to vaccinate yourself and procure vaccines for those whose lives hang in the balance of your judgement, and you have nothing to worry about based on your conclusions about the effectiveness and safety of vaccines. I don’t agree with your conclusions because my comprehensive independent research leads me to other conclusions. You and yours are protected as long as your conclusions are accurate and you have nothing to complain about. If the vaccine works as you believe it does – my un-vaccinated child whom I am feeding home prepared meals using foods free of chemical additives, hormones, or pesticides and whom I care for at home if there are indications of illness – poses no threat to you or others. As an American, who loves, honors and respects the freedoms so hard-won by our heroic ancestors – I consider it an outrage and an act of reckless endangerment for you to make baseless accusations of some utterly unrelated and unfounded association between the careful and loving choices I make in caring for my child and your psycho correlation of a choice to exercise my own love and discretion in making health care choices for my child with being a part of any agency that would bring harm to my country or to my fellow humans.

    If you are a representative of the Pro-vaccine viewpoint –
    your statements are inflammatory and substantively insane. Please go enjoy your American Freedoms and vaccinate yourself and your children wherever you like, while I exercise and enjoy my American Freedoms to protect my children using my own right to choose what I have concluded is best for myself and those I love who rely on my criteria for the highest standard of research.

  • Someone Else

    “Sensible One” – You are advocating murdering those who exercise their parental judgment to protect their children by not vaccinating them. By the way, my daughter developed epiglottitis – a life-threatening side effect of the MMR vaccine which her pediatrician pressured us into getting at a time when I was concerned that she was coming down with a cold. We were lucky because we got my daughter to a hospital before her throat shut down. Once there she was taken from our arms and given an emergency tracheotomy followed by a week in childrens ICU. The same pediatrician told me as my daughter recovered from surgery… “You don’t know how close we came to losing her…, but I have put her on intravenous Chloramphenicol and I have to tell you that this drug has a one in four chance of causing an incurable blood disease called “Aplastic Anemia” and we can never tell which child will develop it.” The doctor told me this AFTER beginning an administration of a drug with a one in four chance of giving my daughter an incurable and FATAL disease. Still, you say I should offer up my children to the hallowed practitioners and manufacturers who are unwilling to even assume any legal risk for the life and death risks you say I am OBLIGED to allow them to profit by imposing on my child. You think I should have my parental rights nullified so that the medical industry can have its way with the life of my child. If there is a measles outbreak in the UK, then there is probably a cause and given the toxic conditions which manufacturers are given free rein to impose on the public, we have plenty of considerations we need to address before eradicating the rights of parents to make decisions for their child without any proof that the parent has been negligent in arriving at the decision. If you care so much about my child, why don’t you demand that chemical manufacturers cannot relase toxins into the environment where living beings need to breathe the air, drink the water, eat the food!?! Where is an independent project being conducted to identify whether what these children have is actually measles or atypical “measles” caused by some other newly introduced environmental toxin? For the record, in my generation I had the measles, as did many of my friends and it was a self-limited, uncomfortable condition which resolved in a few days and conferred lifetime immunity – to REAL measles. The vaccine does not confer lifetime immunity.

    As to Jim Bob – there are websites created by the same agencies that so cleverly used misleading information to persuade people that smoking is “healthy” . This technique is called “controlling the opposition” by pretending to be a representative of the views and concerns you wish to invalidate – and mixing in a lot of ridiculous and inflammatory untruths along with some of the pertinent concerns of the interest group that has been selected for defeat. Why wouldn’t a company or industry which is unscrupulous enough to take no responsibility for possible vaccine related injury and death – (all the while making BILLIONS OF DOLLARS while taking NO RISK ) stoop to misrepresenting their opponents? Don’t take the bait. You may not agree with the conclusions of parents who do not agree that vaccines confer immunity from harm with an acceptable risk level of potential injury to their most precious ones. That does not give you the right to threaten their life or deny them their rights. When you don’t protect the rights of others you put your own rights in jeopardy.

  • Sensible One… The pharmaceutical industry pays trolls like these to bully those with a voice. Bill Gates recently hired propagandist Seth Kalichman to head up his Internet response to parents like you. It’s the dark side of social marketing, what was once called “propaganda.” Once you understand who and what these people are, their presence proves that you’re on the right track. http://www.omsj.org/blogs/denyingaids

  • Jennifer Symonds

    People in their 50s upwards would never have had all these vaccines as they just weren’t around; we all had our child-hood illnesses recovered & most of us have very good immune systems & few allergies + other dodgy conditions especially if we eat healthy natural food rather than all that chemical laden ersatz gubbins labelled as”food”. The only time my Ma (85) got ‘flu was when she had the ‘flu shot so she doesn’t any now, I’ve never known her with colds or anything else come to that &, since following her lead : altering my dietry regime & using good quality suppllements like vitamin C & Echinacea, I’ve not had colds or ‘flu in 6 years. Question: if vaccines really work then why are those that are vaccinated even bothering to worry about those who are not vaccinated?

  • Jennifer Symonds

    My Ma tells me I was so poorly after I had the first polio shot that she never took me back for any of the boosters, I didn’t get polio by the way.

  • Either you’re a troll hired to hit all the buzz words, or these phrases have brainwashed you so thoroughly that you naturally go to them. . . . “vaccines save lives,” “proven time and time again” (without data), “crackpot conspiracy theorists,” “measles, TB and Polio” (lame attempt at fearmongering using magic fearful words — you forgot cancer this time, sweetie), “ignorant” (usually its corollary, “ignorance,” which is cured by “education,” but we’ll give you this one), “a bunch more kids will not get vaccinated” (more fear of imaginary results), “very serious disease which could be fatal,” (ding-ding! 10 points for a really loaded fearmongering phrase), “scare monger” (great technique! project your own method onto the opposition! score!), “exploit the ignorant” (repetition, why the heck not, because it’s cheap and easy), “probably deserves” (extra nice touch there with the guilt trip on “anyone” [defined of course as someone outside ourselves, that toxic “other”]). Hannah Arendt wrote that Nazi war criminal Eichmann hadn’t so much thought the wrong things as failed to think at all; his brain was just a collection of propaganda slogans and ready responses to every objection, delivered under a glazed smile as if he’d said something really deeeeeep. It’s kind of tacky to compare someone to a Nazi, but I’ll go for it this time. After all, it’s tried and true propaganda, and you forgot to hit that one. Better luck next time. You’re just the trainee, somebody sitting in a fluorescent-lit room with other poor schmucks at computers, shilling on the Internet. The real pros run actual PR firms, making up these lines you feed out. . . . By the way, check out OMSJ’s site, if you haven’t noticed the comment above. It’s kind of a central depot for “idiots” like us who are “dumb” enough to seek information about how to defend ourselves from bogus health tests, criminal doctors, out-of-control child protective services departments, and official propaganda. Currently it’s actually helping “HIV transmission” defendants escape criminal charges by bringing real, live science into the courtroom — the kind that doesn’t fit on billboards and sides of buses. Check it out at http://www.omsj.org/innocence-group. It’s a crackpot conspiracy theory, yep, yep, that’s right. So don’t go there, and you’ll instantly look smart. Just shut up about it; the mainstream AIDS organizations do.

  • Honey child, try not to USE all the propaganda techniques described here to debunk this page’s point. It’s really funny. All we need to do is put you on TV in black-and-white, and you’ll look just like the folks on those ’50s propaganda films. “Share the company of terrorists”? I mean, like, seriously?

  • anon

    So where’s the vaccine for TB? Just curious since you’re so quick to name call but obviously have few facts.

  • pegasi

    Paralytic polio was an adverse reaction to DPT vaccinations around the late 1940s and early 1950s. The March of Dimes refused to help my family after my “polio encephalitis” aka paralytic polio at the injection site with vaccine encephalopathy. I wonder how many of those children in the propaganda films were also DPT vaccine injured. UK documents from that time period noted the occurrences of paralytic polio at DPT injection sites and found the lives and trauma of the children and infants who suffered it insignificant. My case was in the USA (Boulder, CO) in 1949. I just saw the documents last year and only got a clue when Barbara Loe Fishers book; DPT A SHOT IN THE DARK came out in the 1980s. And then those cases were used by the industry to promote dangerous vaccines. Pretty clever, those toxics industries and their public relations ploys. They will use whatever they can to promote death, misery and disabilities as long as they make a profit and have most of humanity scared of the natural world. They are not heroes! I look forward to more info about the great polio scare. The next time you consider the use of toxics, remember that you probably have no idea what can happen to you, your loved ones and perfect strangers when you trust those industries. There are always alternatives that are far safer.

  • nrbrk

    While pro-vaxxers and legislators—with lots of help from mainstream media—are creating hysteria over the ZERO DEATHS from the recent outbreak of measles in DisneyWorld (only among the vaccinated!), nobody ever talks about the deaths actually caused by vaccines.

    Here’s some CDC news about the RotaTeq vaccine that Dr. Paul Offit invented and receives millions in vaccine royalties from—
    “A new CDC study shows 272 reports of intussusception (severe bowel obstruction) after the first dose of Merck’s rotavirus vaccine RotaTeq. The first rotavirus vaccine (Rotashield) was pulled from the market after similar reports. There are now 202 INFANT DEATHS associated with RotaTeq in the FDA Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) (Age < 3 years)."

    In my opinion, that's infanticide.

    So where's the outrage from legislators and pro-vaccine advocates?

  • Terry Stanford

    The link to vaccine ingredients does not lead to that. It leads to a page to sign up for vaccine truth, and after doing so, there is still no link to vaccine ingredients.

  • Terry Stanford

    Also the YouTube link, when clicked on, says the video is not available.