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How Pharmaceutical Companies Hide the Dangers of Vaccines from Parents

Vaccines are “Safe and Effective” – How do they do it? 

Vaccine horror stories are everywhere these days: Stories of young girls fainting in the doctor offices after receiving the HPV vaccines. Stories of mothers taking a healthy child for a round of shots to their pediatrician returning home with a severely sick or dead child. Stories of children receiving the chicken pox vaccine and experiencing severe cases of chicken pox months later. A 1:50 rate of autism in the United States, increasing autoimmune disorders, seizures, allergies and many other illnesses and disorders. Despite all this, your pediatrician, health officials, governments and pharmaceutical companies proclaim that vaccines are very safe. Did you ever wonder how they derive at such faulty conclusions?

 

Scientifically Wrong Vaccine Safety Studies

Any trained scientist or statistician understands that you want to use a null hypothesis to disprove a possible causal relationship between two correlated events. The null hypothesis in this case would be: There is no causal connection between vaccinations and their alleged adverse short-term and long-term side effects.

If we were going to test this hypothesis, I would randomly sample research subjects (a large sample size of perhaps 100,000 would help exclude other factors) and divide the subjects into two groups. One group will get the vaccine, and the other group would receive a saline shot. Both groups would then be monitored for at least four weeks to observe whether short-term side effects were more prevalent in the vaccinated group than in the placebo group.

To determine whether or not there is a causal link between vaccinations and longterm medical complications would be a little more difficult. Nonetheless, if one group of subjects has received a placebo and the other has received the vaccine, it would be possible to mail a questionnaire to randomly selected parents who have chosen to immunize their children and to an equal-sized group of those who haven’t. A phone interview could also take place. This would be a good starting point to see whether there are differences in the long-term health and development of vaccinated children versus that of non-vaccinated children. If no significant differences are found between the two groups in either the short term or long term, then the pro-vaccine factions can rejoice, because they’ve disproven the anti-vaccinators’ claims and proved that the vaccine in question does not cause short-term or long-term complications.

If researchers wanted to know the truth about vaccines’ effects, it would be easy enough to discover. Let’s take a look at what methodology the pharmaceutical industries use to obtain the results they desire. Here it is, as explained in the package inserts for the hepatitis B vaccine by GlaxoSmithKline:

Ten double-blind studies involving 2,252 subjects showed no significant difference in the frequency or severity of adverse experiences between ENGERIX-B and plasma-derived vaccines. In thirty-six clinical studies, a total of 13,495 doses of ENGERIX-B were administered to 5,071 healthy adults and children who were initially seronegative for hepatitis B markers and healthy neonates. All subjects were monitored for four days post-administration. (1)

What the pharmaceutical company should have done is inject one group with the vaccine and the other group with a non-vaccine placebo (i.e., saline). What the pharmaceutical company did, instead, was inject one group with the hepatitis B vaccine, and the other group with a different vaccine. Then they monitored both groups and found that the recipients of their vaccine had “no significant difference in the frequency or severity of adverse experiences” as compared to the recipients of other vaccines. Which tells us nothing, really. Imagine McDonald’s touting their Big Macs as being “no more lethal than the Whopper.”

This is exactly what the pharmaceutical company has done here—they’ve avoided the real question about adverse reactions to vaccinations by announcing that their vaccine causes no more adverse reactions than…other vaccines. But make no mistake about it… adverse reactions occurred in both groups.

Let’s take a close look at the package inserts of various drug companies and the vaccines they manufacture. More importantly, let’s look at how the pharmaceutical companies manipulate safety results.

 

Sanofi Pasteur and the HIB Vaccine

In a randomized, double-blind US clinical trial, ActHIB vaccine was given concomitantly with DTP to more than 5,000 infants, and hepatitis B vaccine was given with DTP to a similar number. In this large study, deaths due to sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) and other causes were observed, but were not different in the two groups. In the first forty-eight hours following immunization, two definite and three possible seizures were observed after ActHIB vaccine and DTP in comparison with none after hepatitis B vaccine and DTP. (2)

In order for us to know how safe the HIB vaccine is, the vaccine should have been compared to a placebo. Only then would we know how safe the vaccine truly is. But in order to muddy the results, not only did they not compare the HIB vaccine to a placebo, but they combined the HIB vaccine with another vaccine, and then tested it against two other combined vaccines. Imagine a drug company testing the safety of infant Tylenol by mixing it with another drug and then comparing it to a mixture of two other drugs. How would we ever be able to tell whether Tylenol is safe to give to our children?

 

Merck and Hepatitis B Vaccine

In the pivotal, randomized, multicenter study, 882 infants were assigned in a 3:1 ratio to receive either COMVAX or PedvaxHIB plus RECOMBIVAX HB at separate injection sites at 2, 4, and 12–15 months of age. Children may have also received routine pediatric immunizations. The children were monitored daily for five days after each injection for injection-site and systemic adverse experiences. During this time, adverse experiences in infants who received COMVAX were generally similar in type and frequency to those observed in infants who received PedvaxHIB plus RECOMBIVAX HB. (3)

In this study, Merck figured it would be best to compare its hepatitis B vaccine to a mixture of two other vaccines. Why would they do this? Because if a single vaccine is compared to a mixture of vaccines, the likelihood of adverse reactions in the “mixture of vaccine group” is likely to be higher, therefore making the hepatitis B vaccine look relatively safer. This is manipulation at its best.

Sanofi Pasteur and the Polio Vaccine

In earlier studies with the vaccine grown in primary monkey kidney cells, transient local reactions at the site of injection were observed. Erythema, induration and pain occurred in 3.2%, 1% and 13%, respectively, of vaccinees within 48 hours post-vaccination. Temperatures of ≥39°C (≥102°F) were reported in 38% of vaccinees. Other symptoms included irritability, sleepiness, fussiness, and crying. Because IPV was given in a different site but concurrently with diphtheria and tetanus toxoids and pertussis vaccine adsorbed (DTP), these systemic reactions could not be attributed to a specific vaccine. However, these systemic reactions were comparable in frequency and severity to that reported for DTP given alone without IPV. Although no causal relationship has been established, deaths have occurred in temporal association after vaccination of infants with IPV. (4)

It is interesting to know that the vaccine grows in monkey kidney cells. I wonder what impact this has on our children. In this study, the pharmaceutical company tells us that the experienced side effects can’t be attributed to the polio vaccines, as it was tested by mixing the polio vaccine and then comparing it to the mixture of two other vaccines. This is simply beyond words.

All the package inserts can be accessed by going to: http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm.

 

In order to show how ridiculously vaccine safety studies are designed, here is a comparison: I want to find out whether eating huge quantities of Hershey kisses can lead to a bellyache. What I should do is get two groups of large sizes together and give one group large amounts of Hershey kisses and the other group a placebo. If there are significantly more bellyaches in the Hershey kiss group, I can confidently say that it isn’t safe to eat large quantities of Hershey kisses. Instead, I randomly sample two large groups and give one group large quantities of Hershey kisses and the other group large quantities of gummy bears or, perhaps, as some study designs by the pharmaceutical industry suggest, the placebo group receives large quantities of gummy bears and ice cream at the same time. Now I have belly aches in both groups (as we all know eating too much chocolate or gummy bears isn’t good), however, because I have an equal amount of reactions in both groups, I argue that it is therefore safe to eat large amounts of Hershey kisses, as there are not significantly more bellyaches in the Hershey kiss group.

 

Conclusions

Most middle school students are familiar with the design of a cause and effect study. The pharmaceutical companies are getting around ethically and fairly designed studies by claiming that it would be unethical to withhold a lifesaving medical intervention such as vaccines. This despite the fact that short term studies never included a ‘true’ placebo and vaccinated children have never been compared to non-vaccinated children in long term studies.

As you now are familiar with faulty research designs falsely concluding vaccines are safe for your children and protect your children from illness you may want to question the entire notion of vaccination. Many parents to vaccinated and non-vaccinated children will attest to the fact that the non-vaccinated child claims superior health to the vaccinated child. If large and correctly designed studies were conducted it is likely that pediatricians, health officials, government and pharmaceutical companies would derive at the same conclusion. This of course would expose them and therefore those choosing to vaccinate their children will have to continue to rely on studies proving a pre-determined outcome.

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  1. Engerix-b (hepatitis b vaccine recombinant). (n.d.). Retrieved from http://www.rxlist.com/engerix-b-drug/side-effects-interactions.htm
  2. “Haemophilus B Conjugate (Meningococcal Protein Conjugate) and Hepatitis B (Recombinant) Vaccine.”  Web. <http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/c/comvax/ comvax_pi.pdf>.
  3. “Haemophilus B Conjugate Vaccine.” Web. <https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm? doc_id=11167&image_type=product_pdf>.
  4. “Poliovirus Vaccine Inactivated.” Web. <https://www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm? doc_id=5984&image_type=product_pdf>.
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  • Roxanne

    Valuable article and a key point to raise when trying to open the eyes of the vaccine-illiterate… A few days back I pointed out to the rep. of a regional cancer
    agency that was promoting the HPV vaccine, that the trial placebo used was
    aluminum, and this “expert” couldn’t wrap his mind around what the problem
    was… Hello!.. Vaccine apologists will twist their knickers in a knot NOT to
    connect the dots. This bigwig who gives presentations touting HPV vaccine
    propaganda couldn’t even grasp that a REAL placebo is inert. And these
    are the same people promoting vaccines as “scientific”!

  • JD

    Another example of their fraudulent studies is the fact that they eliminate from their research any participants who present with disease signs after the first inoculation. They reason this with the statement that they were “unvaccinated injured” and claim that in order for immunity to happen there must be 2 inoculations or 3. The multiple doses of vaccines has nothing to do with immunity and everything to do with changing parameters to fit their safety concepts. They continue researching safety in the participants who displayed no signs and symptoms (hey if they handled the first dose- they can probably handle the 2nd.) If in the event a large portion of those participants experience adverse effects- they are then eliminated and written off as unvaccinated injured- and continue to experiment with dose 3 in the participants who were not injured after the 1st or 2nd. The more you concentrate it- the higher chance you will manipulate the data to display the desired end result. This is why so many vaccines require multiple doses. Because in their studies it displayed “safety” at that level, despite being adversely damaging to so many who were exposed at 1st/2nd dose. This module not only demonstrates the insanity of vaccines but actually proves that vaccines DO not give “immunity” but build a tolerance and since we are dealing with known neurotoxins and other poisonous substances. I can assure you that this tolerance is not one you want. If you are contaminated with poisonous substances and are not eliminating them through elimination signs (diarrhea, vomiting, ect)- you are causing internal damage in other ways (chronic diseases, cancer, infertility, ect)

  • Evan Eberhardt

    Excellent post. This exposes the fraud of calling vaccines science. Imagine calling naproxen safe because its side effects are no worse than ibuprofen? Or even further, mixing naproxen with acetaminophen and then comparing it to ibuprofen mixed with acetaminophen. How the hell would you be able to determine what side effects are attributed to which drug? Yet, this is exactly what these crooks do. The smallpox ‘vaccine’ (infected pus put into a cut) was never tested for control safety or efficacy in any way, and nothing has changed in over two centuries. The entire practice is built upon assumptions, none of which hold up under REAL scrutiny. It’s amazing how flimsy the ‘evidence’ is for vaccines, yet supporters literally get hostile when challenged. This is a sure sign of dogma. Call it out for what it is. We have to get this nonsense stopped for the sake of our collective health.

  • Michelle Goldstein

    Excellent information. Thanks for the good research and well written article.

  • Jill Rutherford

    I got into this because my nephew and my youngest grandson had alarming side effects. Both showed serious regression from their previous behavior. My nephew suffered fever spikes for no apparent reason that were followed by febrile seizures that occurred on a consistent basis for over a year. This year I went back to college and chose to write a paper on the negative side of vaccination. I went from the position of thinking that there may be a connection to the gut wrenching conviction that it is an absolute fact. I used the most prolific sources that were openly anti-vax and severely attacked by conventional medicine. I traced everything back to the source. What I found on government websites was appalling and has changed my life forever. At 55, I never thought that I would encounter such disregard for hard evidence. The truth is that we are loving our children to death by blindly following government guideline. Our government has aided and abetted a billion dollar industry that is harming our babies and children. They must be stopped! We do not know what the long term effects will be on those who have been vaccinated. Nor do they. We are currently seeing the effects on children that have severe side effects. It is not pretty. Check out VICP for further proof that our government is not representing our future well being. We need to unite all of the fragmented groups to make it stop. Vaccinations are only “effective” in 7 of 10. The “immunity” lasts a maximum of 5 years. Not the life time protection that they claim. And there is no proof that the “protection from disease” even lasts that long. Go on the CDC and HSS cites. So much contradiction and crap science. We are being lied to and our children are being poisoned so these people can get rich. They are all involved in this. Call your congressman and senator. This has to stop before this young generation is destroyed. We do not know yet what it has done to our generation.

  • Anna

    If any Anti-vacc follower actually undertook any scientific education they would realise the scrutiny that any research is put under. Its insane and absolutely disrespectful to falsely accuse anyone in the scientific community of malicious acts without any hard proof of the fact. Peer reviewed journal articles are difficult to decipher at the best of times, but using paragraph sized excerpts from any study in regards to proof of poor method without actually knowing what you’re quoting just highlights the ignorance of the author of this article in this instance.
    If any anti-vacc person refuses to properly educate themselves about vaccines and instead chooses to jump on the slander bandwagon of the scientific community, I say let them… The world is full enough, and the stupidity of these people is probably better off not passed on through to the next generations. Herd immunity will prevail with those that have been clever enough to realise the enormous benefit of vaccines.

  • LeAnn Addleman

    I don’t think it takes a rocket scientist to put two and two together on this issue of vaccine safety and efficacy. The studies have not ever been done between vaccinated and unvaccinated because big pharma doesn’t want parents to realize they’ve been fed a line of bull for decades. The world is full of stupidity, mostly the ones who swallow the bull, hook, line and sinker. As far as herd immunity……..it is as false as the idea that vaccines are safe and effective.

  • Katie

    The package insert only tells the study that was required for that particular manufacturer to gain approval. In pharmaceutics, only the first of its kind is required to be a placebo controlled trial. All other subsequent manufacturers only need to compare to previously approved pharmaceutics and the bar is that the drug is as safe as or better than what is already on the market. Therefore, the placebo controlled trial for example for Hepatitis B would need to go back to the 80s when the vaccine was first approved in infants.

  • Becky Hastings

    Thanks for you comments Jill Rutherford “We need to unite all of the fragmented groups to make it stop” I love this idea. I am a similar age to you with three unvaccinated grandchildren. I too wonder about how we can be more effective in sharing true information that will help young families. The problem is more than vaccines, it is also about the food we give children, birth practices, environmental toxin exposure and fluoride in the water. But vaccine policy is a significant part of the health problem. Anyone can compare recommendations from the 60s, 70s, etc. and see that the number of recommendations today is beyond crazy.

    Parents love the concept that all they need to do is give their baby certain shots and they will have a healthy happy child forever! It has appeal if it worked! Parents and doctors love to believe in the concept of vaccines until their reality is forever changed through vaccine damage. I am tired of reading stories of completely unnecessary vaccine damage which results from parents and doctors believing it is absolutely necessary to prevent childhood illnesses that only cause serious damage in the presence of severe malnutrition.

    There are many safe and effective ways of treating the common childhood illnesses. With all the information we have on nutrition and boosting our immune system naturally, we don’t need to live in fear.

  • Jennifer S

    Actually, there has NEVER been a vax vs. unvax study done, which is why Congressman Bill Posey has introduced a bill to congress requiring one be done. During the hearing he chastised the CDC for their dangerous practices, and they’re actually being investigated for lying under oath. Some of us Anti-vacc followers undertake a lot of education and realize that the scrutiny of research is laughable. Reference http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?r113:4:./temp/~r113uCIcgA:: and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wwDPcNdxJQ

  • Hannibal Lecter

    You people have no understanding of molecular biology, no understanding of epidemiology and your despicable lies have infiltrated the minds of other feeble-minded idiots that believed your despicable lies and their children are dead now. I hope you are proud of yourselves, morons.

  • Justin

    So then what you’re actually saying is that the entire system is corrupt. Surely then a reboot is required after all.

  • Justin

    Oh please.. you may be a good willed scientist, but rest assured there are an army of corporate bitch scientists out there too, and they are the ones employed by big pharma companies. Science is awesome, but scientists seem to have a serious untouchable god complex most times. I suppose you believe politicians are all saints too right?

  • Vito Alexander Pavlovic

    According to the former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, most of the studies published in medical journals are “extremely flawed” so when you say with 100% certainty that all the medical studies have been scrutinized adequately you are wrong and I hate to break the news to you and this is something you should have grasped by now, you need to reevaluate your understanding of the subject that you are endorsing, and realize its not the way it seems, rather the way it is.

  • Vito Alexander Pavlovic

    Not a good argument, rather more of the big pharma shill kind.

  • Not a Sheeple

    Says a guy named Hannibal Lecter.
    I have some understanding of molecular biology, epidemiology, chemistry, microbiology and biochemistry. I can tell you that from your comment, I see you have no understanding of research studies or even science for that matter. Tell me, how do you suppose proving a reaction to be undergo a certain mechanism? I can give a hint, isolation. It just goes to show how closed minded you are.

  • Markus Heinze

    Hannibal, I am assuming this is why you are posting using an alias, because you are so concerned about pride, truth and character (-:

  • Roxanne

    “Dead kids”… Yeah right, like all the super healthy unvaccinated kids I know of who were raised by parents who had a previous child killed or injured by vaccines and who sadly woke up the hard way. You are so brainwashed.
    It’s plain COMMON SENSE that scientific integrity mandate an inert
    placebo. Even when the product monograph themselves reveal in plain black and white how unscientific their OWN trials are, you close your eyes.

  • Lou

    Thanks for your opinion Hannibal.

    You Sir are aptly named.

  • Lou

    To the best of my knowledge no “vaccine” has ever been shown to be safe and effective in a gold standard clinical test of sufficient power and conducted by an honest third party. Big Pharma and HHS are not honest.

    Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.

    Adolf Hitler

    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/adolf_hitler.html#ePKD8mAi5RUi9cZP.99

    .

  • Katie

    This isn’t an argument per se. If we believe that vaccines haven’t been proven safe, which I believe the current vaccine recommendations have not, I just wanted to point out where placebo controlled trials are required. If you review the placebo controlled study for HepB in 1983 by New England Journal of Medicine, many flaws can be reported.

  • Lou

    “Parents and doctors love to believe in the concept of vaccines until their reality is forever changed through vaccine damage.”

    “When the child goes to sleep the parents wake up.”

    Since we know most doctors do not get a flu shot for themselves I would like to know how many MDs fully “vaccinate” (to the CDCs insane schedule) their beloved children. I would bet it is far less than their patients. MDs have seen too much vaccine damage to believe the bs coming out of the CDC et al.

  • elnura

    Please provide an independent placebo based double blind study on the safety, effectiveness and efficacy of any vaccine. It has to be independent-no industry/government funding involvement at all. While you’re looking for that study read Ben Goldacre’s book called: Bad Pharma. This is what he states in the introduction, which I have read from other Doctors:

    ü Medicine is based on evidence, and the results of fair tests. In reality, those tests are often profoundly flawed.

    ü Doctors are familiar with the research literature, when in reality much of it is hidden from them by drug companies.

    ü Doctors are well-educated, when in reality much of their education is funded by industry.

    ü Regulators only let effective drugs onto the market, when in
    reality they approve hopeless drugs, with data on side effects casually
    withheld from doctors and patients.

    The essence of the whole book is distilled and summarized in the
    introductory pages of the book. The following paragraphs meticulously
    defends every assertion made by Dr Goldacre:

    Drugs are tested by the people who manufacture them, in poorly
    designed trials, on hopelessly small numbers of weird, unrepresentative
    patients, and analyzed using techniques which are flawed by design, in
    such a way that they exaggerate the benefits of treatments.
    Unsurprisingly, these trials tend to produce results that favour the
    manufacturer. When trials throw up results that companies don’t like,
    they are perfectly entitled to hide them from doctors and patients, so
    we only ever see a distorted picture of any drug’s true effects.

    Regulators see most of the trial data, but only from early on in
    its life, and even then they don’t give this data to doctors or
    patients, or even to other parts of government. This distorted evidence
    is then communicated and applied in a distorted fashion.

    In their forty years of practice after leaving medical school,
    doctors hear about what works through ad hoc oral traditions, from sales
    reps, colleagues or journals. But those colleagues can be in the pay of
    drug companies – often undisclosed – and the journals are too. And so
    are the patient groups.

    And finally, academic papers, which everyone thinks of as
    objective, are often covertly planned and written by people who work
    directly for the companies, without disclosure. Sometimes whole academic journals are even owned outright by one drug company.

    Aside from all this, for several of the most important and
    enduring problems in medicine, we have no idea what the best treatment
    is, because it’s not in anyone’s financial interest to conduct any
    trials at all. These are ongoing problems, and although people have
    claimed to fix many of them, for the most part, they have failed; so all
    these problems persist, but worse than ever, because now people can
    pretend that everything is fine after all.

    it is very clear that from Dr Goldacre’s perspective, medicine’s
    evidence base has been undermined by an unscrupulous alliance of the
    pharmaceutical industry and regulators, which leads to the routine
    suppression of negative studies revealing many drugs to be either
    ineffective or less effective than those they seek to replace.

    This suppression has been willful and many academics (the industry’s
    “key opinion leaders”) have acted as willing partners in the enterprise,
    putting their names to ghostwritten articles reporting positive trials,
    while failing to publish negative trials.

    Since there’s so much missing data, we (doctors) can’t really
    say whether the therapies we use work or not. Doctors generally want to
    do the best for their patients, but they can’t know what that is if half
    of the data on clinical trials of drugs is missing and some of the rest
    is distorted. Thus, according to Goldacre, medicine’s evidence base is
    irredeemably corrupted and needs reconstruction.

    I had a difficult time reading this book because every few pages just pissed me off so much I had to put the book down.

    We know that the vaccine industry and the CDC DON’T allow independent studies performed on vaccines. If they did Dr Brian Hooker would not still be waiting, 8 years for the raw data and all emails and written correspondence from the Denmark study which the industry uses as a gold standard to say mercury in vaccines don’t cause Autism. Recently, the Denmark study data that has been presented in what the public was allowed to see revealed the opposite results of Poul Thorsen, the researcher who did the study who is on the run from Interpol for stealing 1 million dollars in grant money from the US.

    2003 Danish Study on Mercury Fabricated? New Study Completely Different Results. Age of Autism website

    “In the 2003 Thorsen paper, the claim is made that there were only 956
    children diagnosed with autism in Denmark between 1971 and 2000. Yet the 2013 study claims that from 1980 through 1999 there were 12,698 cases of autism spectrum disorders, with 2321 of those cases being
    full-syndrome autism. How a more than 1300% discrepancy could arise from researchers looking at the same data from the same database is
    difficult to imagine.”

    I have a copy of the email from one of the scientist that states all the data was not included in the study and they would basically get together to decided how to proceed.

    So if you have a study, please either forward a link or provide the title of the study.

  • Roxanne

    Good comment… Could you link me to further info to elaborate on this
    process whereby trial participants are conveniently eliminated to skew
    the end result?
    Also, are you aware of definitions being manipulated for trials so that
    for example, a seizure isn’t counted as a seizure event unless it lasts for
    a certain minimum of time? Appreciate you passing on further info, if you can. Thanks

  • Ac Mase

    Polio is no longer grown on monkey cells. It is currently grown in Human Diploid Tissue agar- made from tissue and blood products harvested from aborted babies. MMR and the Varicella (and Rabies) vaccine are also grown in this agar. Know what you are injecting your babies with- other peoples’ dead babies. No thanks.

  • It only takes LOGIC: to keep people healthy (not falling prey to ‘deadly’ infectious diseases) they have to let themselves be injected with a witch’s brew of pathogens (of the diseases they do NOT want to contract), also containing very toxic adjuvants (squalene, aluminum compounds and secret proprietary formulas), as well as residual viral, bacterial and other contaminations from the tissue cultures used in the production process (cancer causing viruses like SV40, foreign proteins from human fetal cell lines, cancerous dog cell lines, human cervical cancer cell lines (HeLa), etc. etc. etc. Literally ‘ad nauseam’ (meaning get a big bucket FAST).

  • quicksilver

    Yes! Human nature is not far removed from savagery even today. The late Dr Kalokerinos was concerned with deaths in his practice after vaccines and when he queried he found no one else had any trouble. He was told bluntly that he might be in the wrong job if he worried about deaths to his patients. On examination he found the other doctors not worried about dead patients lost far more than he did to vaccines but was of NO CONCERN to them.

    SIDS peaked at 1 death per 500

    Autism is at well over 1 case per 100

    And it looks like brain cancers may have some vaccin cause too.

    But the best estimates for adverse vaccine reactions are like 1 not serious case per 1 500 000

    And in tune with not Dr K but the other doctors who had no problems with deaths after vaccines.

    And on another black note: if Harold Shipman kept to killing his patients and not getting them to leave house to him on his first visit he might still be in successful practice today for the benefit of UK Hampshire old folk?

  • Unlike you HL I have enough pride in putting forth the vaccine truth that I do not have to hide behind a false name and identity. There is a molecular biologist that does understand vaccines quite well, and he does not agree with you as to the safety of vaccines; Garth Nicholson. I think he would make a far better go to for information than you ever would. It amazes me how you people can still have the audacity to come on a vaccine truth site like this and continue to spread your false and to much to lose denial of the more harm than good clearly done by vaccines. No matter how ineffective vaccines have proven to be and nor how much harm shown done, you always have to continue to push the falsely fear mongering get vaccinated or die of so called horrible diseases, push. Wake up and do some unbiased and independent research, and start accepting reality.

    The Institute for Molecular Medicine, Garth Nicholson, PhD
    http://www.immed.org/index.htm

    Gulf War Illnesses Research
    http://www.immed.org/illness/gulfwar_illness_research.html

    WRITTEN TESTIMONY OF
    Dr. Garth L. Nicolson

    Special Oversight Board for Department of Defense Investigations of Gulf War Chemical and Biological Incidents U. S. Senate Hart Office Building SH-216, November 19, 1998

    http://gulfwarvets.com/testimony.htm

    Vaccines Contaminated with Mycoplasma’s – by Garth Nicolson

    Garth Nicolson http://www.immed.org has written and published hundreds of peer reviewed medical journal articles. He discusses how vaccines are not tested for mycoplasma contamination’s.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk-RMI4qNvA

    Chronic Diseases: Who’s killing us, and how?
    MICROBIOLOGIST GARTH NICOLSON
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU12h6lWi9I

    Garth Nicolson, Ph.D ILADS 2011 Presentation part 1 of 2

    Dr. Nicolson, a renowned expert in mitochondrial research and lipid replacement therapy, spoke at the annual International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society Conference

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhdcR0VptWs
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKp4xCbNhag (Part 2)

    Vaccine Contamination
    http://www.vacfacts.info/vaccine-contamination.html

  • Philip Tabberer

    My sister is an MD and she has swallowed everything she was taught at Medical school. about vaccines. She is one of the most honest people I know and won’t go to Drug sponsored events or anything that might question her integrity. On vaccines she is in total denial, she even has a vaccine damaged son but to her mind it is nothing to do with vaccines. He has Aspergers and a severe nut allergy which over the years has slowly become better. My two children are totally unvaccinated and have hardly ever seen a doctor, last time was for a broken bone and have never caught a so called vaccine preventable disease.

  • Jim Bob

    How is it that when a pharmaceutical company funds a study, their work is devoid of merit and biased, but when an anti-vax group publishes/funds a report its considered the gold standard for science?
    Why aren’t your critical skills being used on both sides of the argument?

  • Jim Bob

    Actually there are dozens of vax vs unvaxed studies. They just aren’t the double-blind, fallacious, ethical studies you’re looking for.

  • Jim Bob

    As mentioned above, there are vax vs unvaxed studies, just not the ones you are looking for. I believe you are searching for the ones that are considered unethical (i.e. double-blind studies).
    This has been mentioned here and other places numerous times, so I imagine you’ve engaged in selective reading. I’ll spell it out here.
    The double-blind study would contain two groups of vax and unvax. One group would receive a placebo and the other the real vax. Then both groups would need to be intentionally exposed to the pathogen in question. This means that the placebo group would be intentionally exposed without any protection which is ergo, unethical.

  • Barbara Ford

    I look forward to a time in, hopefully, the very near future when the current belief in scientific principles is seen as more folly than an accurate representation of how the natural world really works. I believe that the vaccine issue will be the very thing that opens the world’s eyes to the fact that “scientific research” is more about social engineering at the expense of human, animal and environmental health for the sake of profit. How can people who have vaccine-damaged children not eventually open up their eyes to the possibility that vaccines are not able to deliver health as promised and in fact, promote disease? For that matter, “evidence-based” medicine considered to be a gold standard in healing is so limited in its understanding of how the body is capable of self-healing given the right support, that at some point it will become considered worthless. For now though, it looks as though we have to bow to the ego-driven and profit-driven so-called scientists as we are forced via laws made by pharmaceutical paid legislators and/or belief systems to partake of their poisons. When historians 50 years in the future look at the carnage against humanity in the form of vaccinations around the turn of the century, they will most certainly be appalled.

  • elnura

    I use critical thinking in all areas. I was a believer until I used my critical thinking skills and common sense to see the huge lacuna in the released data and research of the scientific community. The fact that the vaccine
    industry will not allow independent research groups to study their data, the fact that the Denmark Study was so scientifically flawed with methodological problems led several prestigious journals to reject the study and not publish it. CDC had to intervene to get it published despite it being scientifically flawed. The fact that the main researcher, Paul Thorson is on the run from Interpol after being indicted for stealing a million in research grant money.

    Dr. Brian Hooker has submitted several Freedom of Information requests to the CDC to obtain the datasets and CDC correspondence on the 2003 Thorsen study
    (Denmark) , some requests were submitted more than eight years ago, but the CDC has yet to respond. Without this information it is impossible to verify the 2003 study. The request continue to be ignored-what are they hiding.? Vaccine industry don’t release their studies to be researched. Why? Even though the study has been declared scientifically flawed it is still on the CDC website and pro-vaccine people use it. The fact that at the Simpsonwood Conference held in 2000 was to discussed in secret the fact that the increase in mercury in the
    vaccines was causing Autism and neurodevelopmental problems in children. What wasn’t discussed was how to resolve the problem. The 52 scientist representing
    all of the industries involved in vaccine development discussed how to hide the data. They have done a good job because most of the public is unaware of the
    admission by the industry-even Doctors.

    Here’s another example:
    Questions on the Independence and Reliability of Cochrane Reviews, with a Focus on Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccine by Clifford G. Miller, Esq.

    [Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons Volume 11 Number 4 Winter 2006] Questions on the Independence and Reliability of Cochrane Reviews, with a Focus on Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccine by Clifford G. Miller,
    Esq.

    http://www.jpands.org/vol11no4/millerc.pdf

    Conclusions:-
    “The independence of The Cochrane Collaboration, which had been called into question previously, has been further compromised by recent funding changes. The
    conclusions of the Cochrane review on the safety and effectiveness of MMR vaccine violate the standards of evidence-based medicine and are not supported
    by the body of the review. There are material concerns that the conclusions were influenced by efforts of the British government to avoid liability in claims brought on behalf of allegedly vaccine-injured children.”Extract of the

    Abstract:-
    “The conclusions of the Cochrane MMR review are not supported by, and contradict, the evidence presented in the review. Having found inadequate evidence of safety in the papers studied, the review’s conclusion that the
    millions of doses of MMR vaccine administered worldwide are safe is not science based. It is based on the circular assertion without cited evidence that the vaccine is safe because millions of doses are administered.

    The review also shows that studies into the extent of the
    adverse effects are too limited to say how extensive these adverse effects may be, and consequently to say whether the vaccine is “safe.” The review provides no comparative evaluation of MMR vaccine safety and effectiveness against other measures, such as single vaccines, placebo,
    no vaccine, or modern treatment options. It provides no evidence to refute the Wakefield hypothesis of an
    association between MMR vaccine, regressive autism following previously normal development, and anovel form of inflammatory bowel disease.

    The Cochrane review duplicates an almost identical paper published in 2003 by members of the same team, yet contains no reference to the earlier paper. According to
    a separate publication by one of the authors, duplicated
    publication can be considered unethical or fraudulent when the authors attempt to conceal the existence of duplicated publication from editors and readers.”

    Cochrane defends the flawed study on the vaccine industry providing very little data to work with. They said it was a crappy study done with very little crappy data. They make a more tactful statement here:

    Cochrane’s statement, “The Cochrane Collaboration Supports Free Access to all Data from all Clinical Trials“, says:
    “Selective reporting of trial results occurs frequently, leading to exaggerated findings of the beneficial effects of
    healthcare interventions and underestimates of their harms. As a consequence, many patients are unknowingly
    treated with interventions that have little or no effect, and may be harmed unnecessarily. This is unethical and has been said to violate the implicit contract between healthcare researchers and patients, where the aim of research is to improve treatment of future patients.”

    Doctors, parents and congress want the industry to do a study comparing the health of unvaccinated children to the health of vaccinated children but the CDC and industry will not do it. Their rationale is it is unethical to not vaccinate children for a study. This is a strawman argument. There are hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated groups of children they can tap: The Amish, Homefirst Medical Clinic, some religious groups don’t vaccinated because they don’t want aborted fetal cells or animal cells
    injected into their children.

    People who are Informed Choice (which is a federal law) or anti-vaxx use critical thinking. We know the research is
    scientifically flawed and some of it is outright bogus.

  • LeAnn Addleman

    What you are talking about is just exactly what they do. They take two groups and vaccinate one with the real vaccine and the second group with a different vaccine. If you read the report above you would have understood that. A study between those who have gotten the vaccines and those who haven’t would not be that hard to do. The real question here is “do vaccines cause a number of illnesses children suffer from today along with alot of serious adverse events, including but not limited to diabetes, asthma, cancer, ADHD, autism, etc., etc.?” No children would have to be exposed to any of the childhood diseases to study the causal affects.

  • Roxanne

    Very good comment encapsulating the dangerously flawed modality that is vaccination… Here are a few quotes speaking to this folly fraught in vaccination:
    “We are actually changing our genetic code through vaccination. Years from now we’ll know the biggest crime against humanity was vaccination.”
    Guylaine Lanctot, MD, ‘The Medical Mafia’

    “My thirty years of experience as a family doctor has convinced me the single greatest threat to our health today is vaccination – particularly the horrific procedure of injecting foreign protein into newborn infants.”
    Dr. Dan Duffy Sr., Geneva, Ohio

    “Immunizations … have caused more suffering and more deaths than any other activity in the entire history of medical intervention.”
    Viera Scheibner PhD, ‘Vaccination-100 Years of Orthodox Research Show that Vaccines Represent a Medicial Assault on the Immune System’

  • Barbara Ford

    So how ethical is it to inject toxins into a human body without knowing for sure what it will do? Apparently it’s okay to use people as guinea pigs without their knowledge. I’ve seen where researchers arrogantly state that “we don’t know the effect that vaccines have on the gut but it’s still okay to vaccinate.”
    Now that is not only irresponsible, but also criminal.

  • Jim Bob

    First, The “Thorson” paper, shouldn’t be called the “Thorson” paper. He wasn’t the lead author on it despite your claims. You should refer to it as Madsen et al. This fact alludes to your bias and lack of ability to apply critical thinking skills to the other side of the argument.
    Secondly, destroying the credibility of one author out of eight doesn’t dismiss the paper. Nor does the fact that the charges against him have anything to do with the paper.
    Thirdly, the “Thorson” paper is literally one of a hundred papers that have found no link between MMR and autism. You heard it correctly. The vast majority of scientific literature has found that there is no causal link between MMR and autism. That is the reason why every public health agency in the world supports MMR vaccination.
    Fourthly, the only place that says the “Thorson” paper is scientifically flawed is on anti-vax websites.
    Fifthly, the only other evidence you presented is ONE paper that suggests that the Cochrane Collaboration is flawed because of funding changes.
    Finally, again there is zero consideration of the other factors that show the extremely large genetic component to ASD. I ask you to use your critical thinking skills to answer one question.
    – In a recent study of twins, it was determined that if one identical twin is diagnosed with ASD, the other has a 70% chance of developing ASD. In the same study it determined that if one fraternal twin was diagnosed with ASD, the other twin had a 35% chance of developing ASD. In siblings, a 3% chance. This study has now been replicated several times. Why is it that identical twins have such a high risk of autism if one receives a diagnoses? Well, the answer lies in several factors including maternal age and nutrition or possibly premature and underweight birth. Another study also found that those diagnosed with autism were more likely to have abnormal placentas. How does all that fit in with your anti-vax theories?

  • Jim Bob

    LeAnn,
    There are more studies available than just those provided through clinical trials. If you even just looked, you’ll find large population studies of England, Wales, Japan, Denmark, California and Quebec, Canada.
    And no, they do not do what I said above. You’ll notice I mentioned a placebo not another vaccine.
    And no, vaccines have not been linked to any of those ailments described in your post above except on anti-vax websites.

  • Jim Bob

    To what toxins are you referring?
    The only thing toxic that I see is a movement based on conspiracy parading itself as altruistic trying to alter the rational choices of people choosing health care options.
    Its also criminal to be ignorant and spread ignorance as knowledge.

  • MelT

    I agree with all you said. They are all in this destruction together. We MUST get together and do something. Follow the $$$$$ is what it is all about and maybe throw in some population control. So sad the legal maiming and murdering that is going on with vaccines. They are proved to be deadly and the money just keeps winning out. I read and need to find the link, that 217 vaccines are in the process of being made and approved. Please God intervene and help what they call the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Forced vaccination has went on too long. In 48 states you can opt out with different exemptions but poor old WV, you can only have a medical exemption and that is almost impossible. We do know what is has done to our generation, I am 58. At 39 I was diagnosed with Lupus and since then about 5 other syndroms and diseases. I feel it is all based on our immune systems being destroyed with our childhood vaccinations. Confused the system and it does not know how to react to our own bodies cells. Just think, we had only a few shots compared to the large amount of poisons pumped into our babies now. So horrid!!!

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  • Scott

    So let’s all NOT get immunizations and bring back the Black Plague !!!
    NUTBALLS !!!!!

  • Because the black plague was caused by a vaccine deficiency?

    This is the first time I’ve heard of that one, Scott. You may want to investigate the sanitation aspect of the plague.

  • Todd

    Ummmmm..the black plague was beaten by garlic…not vaccines. Just sayin’.

  • tigchick36

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  • xxxx

    I’m trying to be a downer but a lot of the information is not true. I’m not just saying this because I do believe in vaccines, I am saying this because I am in a scientific profession and I know how important it is to get the real information from a direct source. It would be best to talk to an actual professional such as a microbiologist or someone who has been a part of making the vaccines. Also maybe find some references that are actually done by professionals ans experts in the area as well as original research to get the true answers. Also there are many disease that have almost been diminished because of vaccines but I say almost because there is always the few that decide not to get the vaccine which in the en, ends up being very dangerous for not only the person but every other person that person comes into contact with. Help end these diseases, and get vaccinated!

  • juday

    I agree with xxxx. Alot of these so called side effects could just be reactions to the ingredients in making the vaccine and not the vaccine itself. You could say more people are drinking pop and more people are getting in car accidents the false conclusion being pop kills people in car crashes.Talk about correlation not being equal to causatiion!

  • lompico

    ….after killing 1/3 of the population.

  • Justin

    Wait a minute. If 8 out of 10 people get vaccinated your saying the other 2 who don’t are dangerous to the 8 who did? Then in what sense is the vaccine protecting at all? It’s voodoo science designed to protect a single interest and not designed to improve health in any way.

  • Justin

    Scott your ignorant my friend. At least I hope that’s all it is. Ignorance can be fixed.

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  • Adam Lewis

    If vaccines caused autism, which it doesn’t, then I still would much rather have my child vaccinated then not. Have you ever seen a child with polio, or a child cough themself to death because they were not vaccinated? Not a pretty sight. I would rather take a chance of my child gettin autism than some other disease that can be prevented by vaccines.

  • Mary Starmo

    If you are, please, please consult your family pediatrician. I know that everyone here thinks that it’s a conspiracy, but you NEED to ALL of the details of a vaccine. Adam pointed out some very good points (a bit redundant, but you get the idea)

  • Tyler Gilvan

    Herd immunity. Some people can’t get vaccinated because of ACTUAL MEDICAL REASONS, not dumb philosophical reasons…

  • Jamie Myers

    Awwww snap he knows what’s up!

  • What Are You Doing?!?

    With your second quote… You do understand that if you were to acquire the disease, you would be bombarded with hundreds of antigens, while with a vaccine your body encounters six (6) antigens. SIX. NOT HUNDREDS. BUT SIX.

  • Frustrated

    BECAUSE OF HERD IMMUNITY MY GOD DO YOU GUYS EVEN READ?!?

  • Philip Oslin

    A bit harsh, but to the point. +1

  • Lou

    “You people have no understanding of molecular biology, no understanding of epidemiology.”

    No Sir you need to actually look as some epidemiology. Here is a good start. The US child (1 – 5) mortality (death) rate is ranked 47th in the World.

    Molecular biology is absolutely not required to get the truth about “vaccines”, epidemiology is.

    .

  • Lou

    Very intelligent people have been propagandized and not just about “vaccination”. How many more “wars” will this openly criminal “government” be allowed to use to gain MONEY and POWER. while destroying a generation of young men. These men are being destroyed with among other things extremely toxic often experimental “vaccination”. All this does not even consider the damage being done to millions of fellow human beings.

  • Lou

    Sir you can “vaccinate” all you want. It will offer NO Protection at all when TPTB want another pandemic.

    “Estimates from all four studies (which included about 1,200 laboratory-confirmed pH1N1 cases and 1,500 controls) showed that prior recipients of the 2008–09 TIV [seasonal flu shot] had approximately 1.4–2.5 times increased chances of developing pH1N1 illness that needed medical attention during the spring–summer of 2009 compared to people who had not received the TIV.” Health Canada PLoS Medicine:

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_flu_shot.htm

  • Lou

    This is how the WHO eliminated Small Pox. This was after centuries of failing to eliminate it with “vaccination”

  • Lou

    Garlic is antiviral among MANY other salubrious qualities. During the coming pandemic we all would do well to eat a least one clove a day IMO.

  • Lou

    Well done.

    I am in a scientific profession …talk to an actual professional such as a microbiologist or someone who has been a part of making the vaccines….done by professionals and experts in the area …

    So here we have an AUTHORITY telling us to TRUST other AUTHORITIES.

    The deadly process of “vaccination” is being sold with AUTHORITY and TRUST.

    Please give me your professional opinion on how much “vaccinating” for measles has reduced the measles deaths since 1919.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/image_engmeasles.jpg

  • Amy Frost

    Im surprised you didn’t mention the MMR vaccine = autism debate, but then I suppose that paper also had flaws so wouldn’t be of much use to back your argument up :/

  • L

    lovely logic!! well done Justin. I’m in South Africa, shocked at the vaccine protocol in America. In South Africa we can still make up our own minds about how to protect our children, thank goodness. I am only going to do one or two of the major vaccines like polio, the rest of the diseases I will try and prevent with good health and hygiene and I will not bow down to the pressure from the paranoid or the big pharma companies. Q: Why has the amount of vaccines needed increased over the years? With 1st world sanitation and hygiene you would think we would need less protection from disease, not more?

  • L

    oh my word that is so gross….

  • L

    agreed. Why, when we have such a better standard of living (increased hygiene, running water, etc) do we need ever more vaccines? Shouldn’t we be needing less?

  • L

    “corporate bitch scientists” – lolling big time at this one! thanks :)

  • Lou

    At the deepest levels “vaccination” is designed to destroy immune systems. Our children have DEMONSTRATED immune systems weaker than any cohort in the history of this country.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_vs_unvacc_Child.htm

  • Lou

    Lets look at the infamous MMR.

    Alert the Media: Yes, Autistic kids have a Novel Bowel Disease

    ”Editor’s note: You’ve really got to check out and connect people to this interview Andy Wakefield did with Arthur Krigsman, one of the authors of the new journal article that confirmed unusual bowel disease in children with autism. That, you no doubt recall, is what the whole “discredited” Lancet paper was about lo these 15 years, and millions of autism cases, ago. Sadly, the denial of this reality plays out every day, including at Loyola hospital in Chicago where a 14-year-old boy is currently being treated as a psychiatric patient while his mother’s pleas to investigate his GI symptoms have so far gone unheeded.” Dan Olmsted

    “Scientists and physicians from Wake Forest University, New York, and Venezuela,
    reported findings that not only confirm the presence of intestinal disease in children with autism and intestinal symptoms, but also indicate that this disease may be novel. [viii] Using sophisticated laboratory methods Dr. Steve Walker and his colleagues endorsed Wakefield’s original findings by showing molecular changes in the children’s intestinal tissues that were highly distinctive and clearly abnormal.”

    Wakefield proved correct

    “How is it that this triple vaccine gets licensed? Why didn’t the trials spot the Urabe meningitis consequence? Why didn’t their trials show any of the results we found? They didn’t do it. They’ve got a single license for mumps, a single one for rubella, a single one for measles. So they go to the licensing agency and they say, each of these is licensed, we’ll just put them together. Give us a license.” Doctor Andrew Wakefield MD

    Doctor Andrew Wakefield Not Guilty Says BBC – General Medical Council Wrong

    Well Doctor Wakefield was correct all along. This brave man was politically destroyed by the “sell out scientists” who will affirm anything their masters tell them to affirm. Please read this interview. The true science seems to be winning. If mankind is to have any kind of a rational future we had better make sure we do all we can to support science and expose our political masters who misuse science to their own evil ends.

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_mmr.htm

  • Lou

    Epidemiology.101

    “The Autism/ASD/Vaccine Damage epidemic is found in all countries that have allowed mass vaccinations. It is found nowhere else.”

    Impoverished children the world over are dying of water borne disease; dying of malnutrition; dying of starvation; dying of every cause you can think of. These children do not have AUTISM when they die. They die clinging to their parents. In all their poverty, disease and death, their parents have not been taken from them and they from their parents.

    Time to wake up folks; time to wake up.

    Now let us look at how these poor children are NOW getting autism and being taken from their parents.

    “In New Delhi, India, prior to 2000, ASD/PDD (autism spectrum disorder/pervasive developmental disorder) symptoms were rare – typically only occurring in children who were vaccinated abroad. However, after the Indian pediatricians began recommending, in 2000, the addition of triple-dose Thimerosal-preserved Hib (Haemophilis influenza B) and Hep B (hepatitis B) vaccination programs to the existing Thimerosal-preserved triple dose DTP (diphtheria toxin, tetanus toxin and
    pertussis toxins) vaccination program recommended by the Government of India,
    the incidence of a childhood ASD/PDD diagnosis increased to 2 % to 4 % of
    vaccinated New Delhi children.” Doctor Paul King PhD, Note folks here it is. Read and reread this PLEASE

    http://dr-king.com/docs/100711_ParallelsinNewDelhiIndia_AnEpidemic_b.pdf

  • The Truth

    I’m sure I’ve read dumber and more ignorant articles. I just can’t remember when.

  • CJ

    Your comment adds zero percent to the conversation. Perhaps you clarify why you believe the article is ignorant.

  • Loni Hull

    I’m sure I’ve read dumber and more useless replies. I just can’t remember when.

  • Gary Simpson

    In Japan the MMR vaccine is not now used. Rates of autism have been increasing. Please explain.

  • Gary Simpson

    The MMR experience in Japan undermines the claims made by Wakefield et Al.
    http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/vaccines/nommr.html

  • Lou

    If I were in charge in Japan I would invite Doctor Wakefield in and ask him to test the Japanese non-MMR autistic children for the Novel Bowel Disease he, and others, found in the MMR autistic children.

  • Gary Simpson

    Andrew Wakefield is a discredited fraud. There is no such condition as MMR autistic children, this was the pure invention of Wakefield and others of his ilk. MMR has no link to incidences of autism which Wakefield proposed. Wakefield’s original assertion was that the MMR vaccine caused or contributed to autism and not inflammatory diseases.

    Now you change this to a link between MMR, autism and bowel disease. Bowel disease may possibly be partly caused by the presence of autism. There is a two way street between the central nervous and immune systems and it has been shown that even conditions such as depression may cause inflammatory diseases.

    Explanations can be found in the following review paper…
    http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/48/4/456.full

    Unfortunately your point of view appears to be supported only by numerous conspiracy sites and news media that have reputations for sensationalised stories lacking in evidence or truth.

  • lovealwaysmommy

    Ac Mase- Can you provide any proof for your comment, I’m curious to know more!

  • Lou

    Sir you are about 15 years behind the curve. Please catch up.

    Doctor Wakefield’s work has been replicated by 28 at last count, other researchers.

    “This is the second independent study to back up Dr Wakefield. In 2001 John O’Leary, Professor of Pathology at St James’s Hospital and Trinity College, Dublin,
    replicated his findings. This new study confirms what we found in British children and again with Professor O’Leary. The only exposure these children have had to measles is through the MMR vaccine. ‘They were developing normally until they regressed. They now suffer autism and bowel disease.” The Great MMR Deadly Scam

    “Dr Wakefield is now publicly demanding a retraction from the British Medical Journal and author Brian Deer.
    Documents just made public reveal that another medical research team which included a senior pathologist independently documented evidence of a possible MMR vaccine – autism link 14 months before Dr Wakefield’s
    paper first appears in The Lancet — based on several of the same children appearing in Dr Wakefield’s study.” British Medical Journal caught in highly politicized scientific fraud

    “Scientists and physicians from Wake Forest University,
    New York, and Venezuela, reported findings that not only confirm the presence of intestinal disease in
    children with autism and intestinal symptoms, but also indicate that this disease may be novel. [viii] Using sophisticated laboratory methods Dr. Steve Walker and his colleagues endorsed Wakefield’s original findings by showing molecular changes in the children’s intestinal tissues that were highly distinctive and clearly abnormal.”
    Wakefield proved correct

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_mmr.htm

  • Lou

    “A lot of these so called side effects could just be reactions to the
    ingredients in making the vaccine and not the vaccine itself.”

    Well here it helps to distinguish between “vaccines” and “vaccinations”. A “vaccination” is everything contained in the vaccination syringe AND all the actions of the medical industry in producing and administering the “vaccination”.

    So you are correct an unswept floor in the Vaccination Factory could be what kills your child not the “vaccine” itself. Does it make a difference to your dead child?.

  • Lou

    LOL VDD

    VDD vaccine deficiency disease: Believed by such vaccination experts such as Doc Proffit to be caused by a poor child receiving less that 25 to 30 vaccines per week. Treatment is vaccinating by a minimum of 50 “vaccines” per week for at least two months. Prognosis is good for most children they will become mindless slaves of Government and the Medical Industry.

  • Lou

    Very well said.

  • Gary Simpson

    You appear to be behind the times – Wakefield tried to bring a suite against Deer in Texas (2009/10) which has been thrown out. He no longer appears to desire pursuing the matter further although protests his innocence.

    I have come across Walker and fairly sure that supporters of Wakefield are reading something into it that does not exist.

    Not sure where the BMJ comes into this but maybe you’re confusing this with the BMA who investigated his research and found it to be dishonest and fraudulent. They wre responsible for disbarring him for malpractice.

    You are aware that he had interests in two companies that it has been estimated could have earned in excess of £40m per annum had his plan to discredit MMR come to fruition.

    I take your point that other researchers may have posited the same hypothesis prior to his 1998 paper. It is normal in science that such hypothesis are put forward to advance our knowledge or be discarded when new evidence is produced. Do you have a reference for this work as I’d be interested in reading it.

    I apologise as I’m writing this on my phone but will let you have further detail tomorrow.

  • Whaley

    You are all so mis-informed it actually stresses me out. You have absolutely no idea what impact these diseases (measles, mumps, rubella, etc.) had (illness and death rates) before vaccinations. No idea. If you lived in the time where these diseases were killing, you would jump to get a vaccine for your child. Just because vaccines have done a great job eradicating the disease does not give you the right to now question their use and safety. The world would be in terrible shape without vaccinations. Yes, the vaccines have primarily done their job and nearly eradicated these diseases, but if everyone stopped vaccinating…we’d be back where we were. Of course there are “dangers” with vaccines. You are taking a higher risk getting in your car each day. Most clinical studies are done with true placebos (that is why this article is SUPER biased), not other vaccines as the control…this article does not show the whole picture.

    ALSO- how the hell are vaccines changing our genetic code? Please explain. That is not how vaccines work. Do you even know how vaccines work?

    Furthermore, injecting foreign protein is not necessarily dangerous, unless the child was born with an immune problem anyways. The virus / protein injected into the kid is severely weakened or even dead, so that like a key-and-lock, your immune system recognizes the virus and builds up a safety wall for that type of virus. Then, when your kid actually gets the damn virus, the kid will easily fight it off instead of becoming severely ill or dying. Look at the true numbers. See how many deaths there were because of mumps before the vaccine.

    Immunizations have saved millions of people. Please actually educate yourself, I have not seen scientific proof that the vaccines are dangerous. This article does a pretty shitty job too, because not only does it only take a small sample size for clinical trials trying to show that control groups were poorly selected…it doesn’t actually demonstrate itself that vaccines are dangerous.

  • Rose

    wow! why do you have to give people false information?!! This is bizarre!! I don’t even know where to start!! I’m a pharmacist myself and I can say that this article is based on so many false and incomplete information, it’s a shame…

  • Julie

    The fact your a pharmacist in the U.s is enough for me to say your a retard who believes everything you were taught , go get your flu vaccine hope it doesnt kill you !

  • Marshall

    Actually most childhood diseases were never fatal.In most cases people would get sick, but, recover.And,after they would recover they would have life long immunity.I’m sure in the future they will say chicken pox was almost always fatal.Vaccines cannot and do not provide life long immunity.The only way to get true heard immunity is from multiple exposures . Data has been skewed by big pharma,the CDC and the FDA to make pre-vaccine diseases seem far worse than they really were.A lot of diseases such as small pox were already on the decline before mandatory mass vaccinations.And,after mandatory mass vaccinations the number of reported cases sky rocketed.

  • Louisa

    God!! you are paranoid hahaha go kill yourself your stupidity is too flagrant! Do some research before, always the pseudo scientific idiots that think they know everything

  • Lou

    Yes research, if you research this topic you may know a little concern over “vaccination”.

    “Baxter labs in
    2009 put the deadly H5N1 live virus in their “Seasonal Flu Vaccine”. Baxter
    Labs has suffered NO consequences from this crime of attempted mass murder.
    Baxter Labs was chosen by the CDC to manufacture this years (2010/2011)
    combination of “Seasonal Flu” and “H1N1 vaccine.”

    Baxter:
    Vaccine Product contained live bird flu virus,
    Note this STRONGLY suggests the contamination of
    “vaccines” with deadly unapproved “additives” is condoned at the highest
    political levels

  • Lou
  • Lou

    “Wow! why do you have to give people false information?!!”

    Such as? Please be specific.

    TIA

  • AutismDad

    They gave separate shots in one visit, making it an MMR anyway.

  • Garrett Sheehan

    “So let me ask you Louisa if in 2009 Baxter Labs put live H5N1 deadly virus in “Seasonal Flu Vaccine” and this was tacitly approved by the CDC and your “government” what are the odds that in 2015 Some Lab will put live Ebola virus in an “Ebola Vaccine” or a “Seasonal Flu Vaccine”?”

    I don’t think you understand vaccines.

    Vaccines have almost always used live viruses. But they don’t give you enough to make you sick. They give you enough to stimulate your body into making anti-bodies to fight off the deadly version of it.

    It’s basic biology, we’re just giving our bodies a bit of a boost.

  • Garrett Sheehan

    There’s something called Herd Immunity. Basically what it means is that when you vaccinate enough people, it disrupts the chain if infection and protects those that don’t have immunity.

    It’s what was used to eradicate smallpox.

  • Garrett Sheehan

    Children die from a lot of other things as well. Every Human will react differently.

    Hundreds of boys die from Circumcision every year, yet it’s still an “recommended medical procedure”.

    You know how many people it’s saved?

    Zilch.

    You know how many people vaccines have saved? More than millions.

  • Garrett Sheehan

    Uh, no. It burned it self out.

  • Garrett Sheehan

    Also, you’re again wrong. Smallpox was wiped out by the tactic known as “Herd Immunity”.

  • Garrett Sheehan

    Sanitation aspect?

    You mean how they continued to handle dead bodies with bare hands?

    The Black Plague died out because it was simply too deadly. It killed its hosts. It burned it self out.

    Sanitation did nothing, and England remained the cesspool it was at the time.

    The plague was too deadly, so deadly in fact. It killed it self.

    So what does nature do? The plague evolves into a less virulent, deadly disease.

    TL;DR:

    Sanitation had nothing to do with it. It was basic biology. Which is something that vaccines take into account, as well.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2011/09/02/the-black-death-is-dead-thanks-to-evolution/

  • Garrett Sheehan

    “”We are actually changing our genetic code through vaccination. Years from now we’ll know the biggest crime against humanity was vaccination.” ”

    lolno

    That’s not how vaccines work. Otherwise our bodies would be constantly doing that in response to diseases.

    Allow me to paint you a picture.

    When someone first begins running, they can’t run very far because their body isn’t used to it. But as they keep running, the body gets used to it.

    That’s basically how vaccines work. They stimulate your body into make proper anti-bodies without putting undue stress on it.

  • No. You’re talking about hygiene and sanitation as the same thing and they are not.

    Examples of hygiene:
    -Karachi Soap Study
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16023513

    -Ignaz Sammelweis
    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/534198/Ignaz-Philipp-Semmelweis

  • Source please.

  • ‘ASIA’ – autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20708902

    Inflammatory responses to trivalent influenza virus vaccine among pregnant women.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21945263

  • Garrett Sheehan

    well, you know, when you say sanitation and hygiene, it’s fair to assume you mean the same thing.

    But none of those links are relevant, because, as I said before, it was neither hygiene or sanitation that svaed Europe and other countries affected by the Plague, it was nature.

  • Garrett Sheehan
  • Garrett Sheehan

    “Molecular biology is absolutely not required to get the truth about “vaccines”, epidemiology is.”

    Unsupported claim! :)

  • It’s a great theory. Do you even know who authored that document?

  • Garrett Sheehan

    A.) The CDC, which has more standing than you do.

    B.) Basic Biology. Of which, I can assume you never had a course in high school as you don’t seem to understand Basic Biology.

  • Or – I can assume you’re still in high school.

  • Garrett Sheehan

    Well, you’re right, and I’m proud of my high school.

    But again, are you assuming I’m stupid because I’m in high school?

  • No Garrett, I don’t think you are stupid. You’re probably highly academic in your thinking and like to debate others frequently.

    I think how your intelligence is perceived by others and your peers, however, may be an insecurity of yours.

  • Garrett Sheehan

    “No Garrett, I don’t think you are stupid. You’re probably highly academic in your thinking and like to debate others frequently.”

    Actually, funny enough, I am in all all academic classes. Which means average. Save one, I believe, and that would be math. I’m in traditional. Which is the lowest level.

    “I think how your intelligence is perceived by others and your peers, however, may be an insecurity of yours.’

    Well… considering that I just told that every class I’m in is average except for the math class which is the slow math class… I’d have to disagree with you.

  • I guess I don’t know what your definition of average is, Garrett. And you’d have to show me where academic means average.

  • Garrett Sheehan

    My school’s got four levels of classes.

    Traditional: Lowest
    Academic: Average
    Honors: Above Average
    Advanced: You get the point

  • This means nothing to me.

  • Garrett Sheehan

    Well it may mean nothing to you, but it still means that I’m in average classes so… :shrug:

  • Lou

    “Vaccines have almost always used live viruses.”

    Well the whole notion of LIVE viruses in “vaccines” has always been a smoke screen. Viruses are NEVER alive.

    What goes in “vaccines” is often live attenuated viruses. The theory, NEVER verified, is that these viruses will not mutate inside the body. We have good evidence they DO mutate with AWFUL consequences such as autism.

    Does you body need a bit of a boost? There are thousands of salubrious foods and supplements why take something life threatening?

  • Lou

    “You know how many people vaccines have saved? More than millions.”

    Please present some evidence in support of this unlikely theory.

    Here is some evidence to the contrary.

    http://johnwollerjrontheautismepidemic.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/figure-7-92.jpg
    So what conquered “disease” and WHEN was “disease” conquered? Note the Diphtheria, Pertussis and tetanus “vaccines have shown to be totally worthless and had nothing with their disease etiologies.

  • Lou

    Nope.

    “I would like to begin by proposing that we use the terms vaccinated and unvaccinated instead of immunized and
    unimmunized, since the basis of the vaccination controversy is the belief of many parents that the vaccines do not produce a true immunity’, but rather act in some other fashion–or, in my view, that they act immunosuppressively.” Doctor Richard Moskowitz, MD

    “The problem is that there is in fact such a thing as natural herd immunity. But what’s they’ve done is they’ve taken this natural phenomenon and assume that vaccines will work the same way. However, they do not, and the science clearly shows that there’s a big difference between naturally arising herd immunity and vaccine-induced herd immunity.” Doctor Joseph Mercola MD

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_natural_immunity.htm

  • Lou

    “That’s basically how vaccines work. They stimulate your body into make proper anti-bodies without putting undue stress on it.”

    Oh Sir if you only knew the NEEDLESS often morbid and deadly STRESS imposed on our poor innocent children by “vaccination”

    “ALL vaccines are and have been causing ischemic (impaired blood flow) damages – to all – creating a plethora of chronic illnesses, disease, and in some instances…death. The injury from vaccination is additive, each vaccination further injures.” Doctor Andrew Moulden MD, PhD

    “Roughly 30-50% of the population has undiagnosed learning disabilities.[2] Almost 3 million children (ages 6 through 21) have some form of a learning disability and receive special education in school.[3] Since 1992, the percentage of students who spend 80% or more of their time in school in special education classes increased from 21% to 45%.[4] Specific learning disabilities have increased 22% over the past 25 years. In the past decade, the number of students ages 6-21 years identified with specific learning disabilities has increased by 38%.[5] In 2003,
    approximately 7.8% of U.S. children aged 4-17 years had ADHD diagnosed. Why?” Note the 25 mcg of MERCURY and other garbage many kids are getting in their “flu shot” and other “vaccines” is IMO a good part of these problems

    “Derailing microscopic blood flow is the key to many diseases. Every vaccination from infantry to adulthood causes the same damages in you weather you receive a diagnostic label or not the damages are additive. Mothers being vaccinated have fetuses or breast feeding infants showing the same damages leading to autism within hours.”
    Doctor Andrew Moulden MD, PhD

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_Dr_Moulden.htm

  • AutismDad

    If you are a pharmasist you are well versed in false and incomplete information. What’s a shame is you are too brain washed to know.

  • AutismDad

    Memory issues? Isn’t there A pill or PILLS for that?

  • AutismDad

    Don’t hold your breath

  • AutismDad
  • AutismDad

    Anything from UK pertaining to Wakefield can not be taken seriously. Slamming him in UK is a bizarre pastime.

  • AutismDad

    SPAM!!!

  • AutismDad

    Talk to doctors who DON”T vaccinate their own children

  • AutismDad

    An authority we CAN’T verify. Nice work proving you are gullible and your recommendations have zero credibility

  • AutismDad

    WOW you are both wrong. MMR is live, most others aren’t.

  • AutismDad

    Thanks DR DUH

  • AutismDad

    How many killed? Common you opened the can of worms, tell us IF you can.

  • AutismDad

    Its not something you vaccinate for nutball

  • AutismDad

    You need to slow down and do some real research. How would it burn itself out? Hilarious

  • Lou

    Sir Doctor Wakefield AND many others found bowel disease never before seen in the guts of autistic children. The MMR is STRONGLY associated with this disease not only in England but all over the world.. Japan is another issue.

    “This is the second independent study to back up Dr Wakefield. In 2001 John O’Leary, Professor of Pathology at St James’s Hospital and Trinity College, Dublin, replicated his findings. This new study confirms what we found in British children and again with Professor O’Leary. The only exposure these children have had to measles is through the MMR vaccine. ‘They were developing normally until they regressed. They now suffer autism and bowel disease.” The Great MMR Deadly Scam

    “Virus-induced autoimmunity may play a causal role in
    autism. To examine the etiologic link of viruses in this brain disorder, we conducted a serologic study of measles virus, mumps virus, and rubella virus. Viral antibodies were measured by enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay in the serum of autistic children, normal children, and siblings of autistic children. The level of measles antibody, but not mumps or rubella antibodies, was significantly higher in autistic children as compared with normal children (P = 0.003) or siblings of autistic children (P <or= 0.0001). Furthermore, immunoblotting of measles vaccine virus revealed that the antibody was directed against a protein of approximately 74 kd molecular
    weight. The antibody to this antigen was found in 83% of autistic children but not in normal children or siblings of autistic children. Thus autistic children have a hyperimmune response to measles virus, which in the absence of a wild type of measles infection might be a sign of an abnormal immune reaction to the vaccine strain or virus reactivation." Singh VK, Jensen RL. Utah State University, Note here is our infamous MMR "vaccine"

    http://healthyprotocols.com/2_vac_measles.htm

  • Lou

    We cannot count on the court system in ANY country. “Vaccination” is a POLITICAL issue. One of the top World Political issues is DEPOPULATION. “Vaccination” is a PRIME tool to achieve depopulation. Any Judge going against this is in BIG trouble.

    You and only YOU can stop autism in your family.

  • AutismDad

    Yes its labelled under National security and can’t be challenged. They could call in the police, army, national guard to force vaccination based on some made up thought. It represents the rich 10% who control a country and ARE the Corporate Mafia.

  • Lou

    “I’m [not] trying to be a downer but a lot of the information is not true.”

    What is true undeniably is that our “vaccinated” children are experiencing an autism slow motion epidemic; autism is doubling about every four years.

    Do you think if this were happening to Politicians, Bankers or Lawyers it would not have been STOPPED decades ago?

    We the people are being sacrificed on the alter of DEPOPULATION.

    The Medical Industrial System is exposed for the abject deadly fraud it is.

    “If overuse of aspirin during the 1918 Spanish flu was the primary cause of flu-related death as Dr. Karen Starko contends, then modern medicine has missed a large lesson on how to prevent flu-related death — that it was aspirin-induced scurvy that heightened mortality during this worldwide flu pandemic, maybe not the flu itself. If this hypothesis is true, then preventable mortality continues today. Many hundreds of thousands have needlessly succumbed to a vitamin C deficiency induced by self-treatment with aspirin and/or modern medicine’s continued failing to practice nutritional medicine.” Bird flu mortality and Reye’s syndrome, Note Reye’s is caused by Vitamin C deficiency

    http://archive.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi125.html

  • Lou

    We are waiting!

  • Martha Jarrett

    I’ve noticed a lot of arguments in these comments but Moines actually touched base on what this article is about. The flawed testing methods that were pulled from the vaccination pamphlets provided by the pharmaceutical companies themselves. How can you ever know what is actually a side effect if you don’t have an actual control group? A control group takes a placebo not a shot containing a different vaccination. So how could we ever know what the actual effects are?

  • Flo

    Wow.. there is really a big fuzz about vaccines in the US. In Europe, to be more specific, Germany,0 we just get vaccinated by the age of 1 or 2, till we die. Period, end of discussion. Why is there such a big fuzz about that? There are no known side effects or anything alike. Every anti-vaxxer should be burned alive so he doesn’t spread any diseases.

  • Lou

    So if the world is forced to march off a cliff we should all go! I am sorry you are in favor of a return of the inquisition because that is where this may go if we do not keep our heads.

    Please present some FACTS in favor of the deadly practice of “vaccination”. TIA

  • AutismDad

    When vaccine makers and promoters have the same agenda and its they who define what an adverse effect is, you quickly see problems. We see VAERS used as a voluntary reporting system and NVICP denying 4 of 5 claims. Its arbitrary and artificial and meant to provide false evidence of vaccine safety. It provides numbers that are fraudulent but are the OFFICIAL WORD on the matter.

  • AutismDad

    Its modeled after CDC, FDA, VAERS and NVICP way of operating

  • AutismDad

    I’ll put you name under the useless column

  • AutismDad

    Just recall some of your best thoughts then it will be clear.

  • AutismDad

    You are completely brainwashed.

  • AutismDad

    Completely brainwashed by the media.

  • AutismDad

    Japan gave separate vaccines during the same visit, making it an MMR anyway. Tell the whole story clown.

  • AutismDad

    Its only political because of CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS

  • AutismDad

    Thanks DR DUH

  • AutismDad

    You don’t understand the issue….its SAFETY!!! Its lack of safety studies and its about NARROW definitions of what is an adverse effect. Its about vaccine promoters arbitrarily saying we have a cut off time for adverse events and after 10 days we don’t consider anything as connected. And more. So provide your science, you opinion is not gold standard.

  • AutismDad

    someone who posts garbage like you has issues best treated by a psychiatrist.

  • AutismDad

    Lately the actual reporting of vaccine failures and vaccines that provide little or no protection has me believing its always been that way. The vaccinated are getting the illnesses. So if 8 of 10 are vaccinated and 5 of 8 have failures, then 7 of 10 are vulnerable. I believe vac promoters know this and want as many non-failures as possible because so many failures exist.

  • AutismDad

    Theres a thing called gullible sheeple and they believe the herd immunity myth

  • AutismDad

    Side effects from ingredients not the vaccine itself? Buh WAH HA HA Have another coffee!!!

  • Gary Simpson

    Er no not the same.
    I guess who is brainwashed depends on one’s perception.

  • Gary Simpson

    Depends on one’s perception as to who is or is not brainwashed.

    Con men rely on their victims suspending their reason.

  • Gary Simpson
  • AutismDad

    At least I have perception. Not perspiration

  • AutismDad

    You need help. Call a veteranarian

  • AutismDad

    And that clown is you. Born with it/ inherited/ classic autism is only 3 to 20 % of autism cases. And 3% is the number most cited. That leaves 80- 97% who are not born with/ inherited/ classic autism. And there were NO inherited genes. Your link says MAY in the first paragraph meaning MAY NOT. Regressive autism is the type parents claim overtakes their BABY after a series of vaccinations. I know thats a lot for a clown to digest, but its closer to reality than any of the trash you post.

  • Gary Simpson

    Nice

  • Gary Simpson

    Mmmm… Genuine scientists most often phrase their thoughts in terms of ‘may’ ‘could’ ‘might’ often signifying that further research might support their hypotheses or refute them.

    Obviously ‘may not’ in your post is not a direct substitute in the example you give above.

  • Karl

    If the Germans are all vaccinated, why worry? You don’t have to burn anybody because the don’t agree with you, just let them succumb to disease and you will rule the world without domination and murder.

  • AutismDad

    Good post. Its nice to read something sensible instead of pro-vac stupidity

  • AutismDad

    Signifying trash science and no detectable or concise finding. We have words for successful finding, but you won’t see them used because it would be dishonest. When CDC/FDA etc say we don’t know what causes autism but its not vaccines, they CANNOT prove it. Vaccines are still public enemy number ONE.

  • Govfulofship

    AutismDad,
    I am going to have to agree with you pertaining to the Pharmacist……. I Do think that pretty much Everyone in the Medical Field is Full of Shit. Our bodies are not made to take all of these synthetic drugs that they just concocted in Laboratories. I don’t have TV, but when I am around television I listen to it and I have noticed that all of the Med’s that out there come with LOTS of Side Effects. Like Wow who would chance taking that Crap?

  • jo blow

    It should not matter if they are not vaccinated…. You took the serum so you are Protected… Ha Ha at least you think you are protected from it. Perhaps you need to be taking a looking at this a little better. American is grossly over populated and the Gov wants to clean that up. Maybe you should do your research as to WHAT EXACTLY is in that shot. Look at the Ingredients… They run your mouth…

  • AutismDad

    The medical field thrives on experimentation. remember VIOXX? Killed almost 700,000. It was FDA Approved. Not one MERCK owner, employee, stockholder served a minute of prison time. And thats one product.

  • Hi Flo. You are either spreading false information on purpose or you are simply ignorant. Germany has no mandatory vaccines (Impfpflicht). There are no vaccine mandates in Germany to get into public schools. Most Germans are very selective about vaccinations and many opt out altogether. Furthermore, the German vaccine schedule is by far not as harmful as the American schedule as vaccines are given later and less altogether.

  • Pharmaceutical companies are comparing Hershey kisses to gummy bears. If you use another vaccine including the same or very similar adjuvants you will not discover side effects. Obviously. But then again, you will get the desired results.

  • As someone who was born in 1940, I had all the “childhood diseases”. At the time, I was led to believe that having them was a good thing. I don’t recall anyone telling me that they were dangerous, and I can’t say that I found any of them acutely distressing.

  • Marshall

    And now, you have life long immunity.Far better than any vaccine could ever provide.And,I’m sure your healthier all around because of your exposure to these childhood illnesses.

  • sabelmouse

    me too, or neither as the case may be. nor do i remember any panic. or any class mates disappearing.

  • Troll Hunter

    Troll…

  • AutismDad

    Vaccines are the common denominator. Nothing else explains it.

  • kill us slowly

    You should get a vaccine for dead brain you wacko.

  • justme

    With all due respect you should be a doctor. You could make more money prescribing this junk and kill people slowly and painfuly instead of being falsely educated pill counting robot.

  • justme

    O, by the way I’m medical toxicologist .

  • just me

    Way to go Julie.

  • no name

    Nothing to brag about. In order to appreciate this article, you need to get some brain laxative, because you’re full of it. Maybe it’s not the best article, but it contains universal truth that vaccines are there to harm you (of course unofficially).

  • just me

    Judging from your knowledge – you must be related to Homer and Bart. And don’t try to deny it. But I don’t think you’re brainwashed – you need a brain for that.

  • just me

    You wanna know the motive? It’s in their interest to produce autistic children. Think about millions going to health care when they have to be treated.

  • just me

    This is a good discussion site.

  • Gary Simpson

    For your entertainment Just me…
    http://www.globalcitizen.org/Content/Content.aspx?id=8d91f5b3-9484-463f-b639-9b2ef26588e6
    Even Bart and Homer lend their good names to education rather than ignorance.

  • forgotmyname

    It was entertaining. I’m sorry, I don’t watch infantile cartoons. If you believe in something you will be looking for arguments that support your beliefs.
    And it’s OK. And this vaccines for third world countries. .. (and here) – depopulation shtick. It’s like haarp is for weather improvement and chemtrails help atmosphere. Or that psychiatric medications are safe and effective – everybody taking them will tell you that. All of that is bravo Sierra and the future will show who was right.

  • forgotmyname

    O, one more thing I would rather be ignorant than filled with false education.

  • just me

    And instead of watching propaganda cartoons why don’t you watch “The Polio Vaccination in Africa Exposed. Thank you and good night.

  • just me

    You must be from the states if you believe what they tell you. Spent nine years at university and have not met anyone that naive. The so called experts will tell you lies because they are educated and trained for that – have degree in biomedical toxicology and minor in statistics, and I know about proper experimental procedure and I have seen data doctoring to further their agendas. In 4th year of the statistics I wrote a paper about us epa campaign against smoking – I used their own research, I crunched the numbers, and exposed falsification of the data – got 88 percent and the only criticism I got was for the strong language when I got really pissed off with their unholy scientifically flawed methods. And if you are of importance and go exposing this they’ll attack you discredit your knowledge and shut you up and down. Look what happened to Whitefield. There is a need for vaccines but not the the ones that suppose to harm you and your family. It’s an experimentation on unsuspecting human population and a persistent low level genocide in third world countries. Talk to the soldiers exposed to nuclear weapons experiments if you find any still alive.
    And enjoy your gmo wholesome diet, take the meds to get healthy (I highly recommend psychiatric ones), enjoy the chemtrails, get rfid, and go to the middle east to protect America and bring them democracy, and pay for it in taxes. Watch some American garbage pickers shows or real housewives as opposed to using your brain for critical thinking. And when the time comes happy vacations in fema camp. God bless USA.

  • just me

    You right on the money. Exactly look into the ingredients – something you really want to give to your kid.

  • just me

    To see the ingredients go to Rense.com.

  • Gary Simpson

    And what is wrong with Third World countries – do they not count for anything in your mind?
    The reasons for resistance to the polio vaccine in Africa, more accurately Nigeria stem from politics especially those following Islam. Deep suspicion regarding the motives of primarily western governments and NGOs administering the vaccine and running the campaigns on behalf of the WHO.
    It is interesting that you like a number of others who are anti-vaccination very easily resort to insult when confronted by someone with a view different from yourself. This says far more about you and yours than it does about me.

  • AutismDad
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