Business of Birth

Your baby is a target. She may be a twinkle in your eye, or floating comfortably within your womb, or she may be 40 years old with children of her own. To the massive and deeply corrupt pharmaceutical industry, she, and every other man, woman, and child on the planet, are seen as merely an endless source of revenue.

According to industry magazine “Pharmaceutical Commerce” the projected global growth rate for the pharmaceutical  industry is 6.3% through 2022, up from the 5% for the 2014-2020 period. Total revenue for the industry is expected to reach $1.12 TRILLION dollars by 2022. Nearly half (45%) of that according to “GEN, Genetic Engineering and Biotechnology News” will be from vaccines. So, don’t believe it when the claim is made that vaccines are not a big money maker.

The world vaccines market is predicted to increase at an even higher compound annual rate than the rest of the industry; reaching a rate of 7.6% during 2013–2022. Revenue from vaccines is expected to “reach $45.1 billion in 2022 as new product introductions continue and usage of current products expands further.”

In May of 2017, Resolution 327 was offered in Congress “Recognizing the importance of vaccinations and immunizations in the United States.” It is curious that the authors and 35 co-sponsors felt a need to recognize both “vaccinations and immunizations”. Typically, in legislation and articles on the subject, these words are synonyms for the magic shots that will render the recipient ‘immune’ from the intended disease.

One would not, for example, expect to see a resolution recognizing the cuteness of both baby dogs and puppies. Perhaps the authors of 327 secretly understand that vaccines do not actually confer immunization, that vaccines and immunity are two very distinct, different things.

Vaccines are injected pharmaceutical products promoted for use from before the cradle to days before the grave and sold under the pretense of providing some semblance of pathogenic immunity. (As a lover of words, I think it is important to remember that the root word of ‘vaccines’ is ‘vacca’. No, not ‘vacay’, as in ‘vacation’. ‘Vacca’, as in Latin for ‘cow’. Why is this? Because the first smallpox vaccine was pus which oozed out of the udders of cowpox infected cows and was then smeared into an incision on the victim’s , oops,  patient’s arm.)

Immunization, however, is a body’s recognition of and effective defense against a given disease. Immunization occurs within a healthy immune system (notice the etymological connection there?) and a strong immune system is never created by injecting foreign, complex manufactured chemical compounds into one’s muscle mass but by good nutrition, adequate rest, and plenty of clean water.  Unless quoting a law that uses the terminology, I therefore avoid using the overused misnomer; ‘immunization’ in reference to shots of any kind.

As a citizen of these United States, a resident of the great state of Colorado, a father, and a passionate participant in this thing called Democracy I felt it was my duty and responsibility to reach out my Congresswoman, Diana DeGette, in an attempt to communicate my concerns about this resolution. This particular Representative of the Denver metro area is so enamored with all things pharmaceutical that I literally thought her last campaign brochure was an ad for the pharmaceutical industry.

Even though the industry is one of the most profitable industries in the world, she felt compelled to give them massive taxpayer funded subsidies with her so-called “Healthy People 2020” initiative. I explained to her that the proposed resolution is nothing more than a pledge of fealty to the pharmaceutical industry.

The industry already has more lobbyists than any other industry. More than aerospace. More than guns. More than agriculture. According to Open Secrets, in 2016 the pharmaceutical industry channeled more than $20 million to lawmakers. To make matters worse, the industry also has a strangle hold on America’s media.

The industry’s own sources reported that advertisements inundating news broadcasts and daytime TV have increased 62% since 2012. Imagine how much media control pharmaceutical companies purchased with the $6 billion they spent on advertising last year. Do you really think that with that much revenue coming from the industry that the nightly news would air an unbiased reports on vaccines?

Vaccine manufacturers clearly do not need our elected Representatives’ subservient acquiescence. The citizens of this country however, do need our lawmakers to have a modicum of integrity and not be whores fulfilling the every desire of the vaccine industry.

In the United States of America each individual state presently has autonomy regarding their vaccine laws. California, for example, with the passage of SB 277 in 2015, effectively eliminated all parental vaccine choice. Medical exemptions are technically still available under California’s law but doctors providing them are being systematically persecuted. Every child, every shot. No exemptions. No exceptions.

States such as Colorado, on the other hand, are preserving medical freedom by pushing back against Pharma backed legislation and persistently working hard to protect the rights of citizens over the profits of corporations. The Colorado legislature, recognizing the inherent values of freedom and personal sovereignty, has steadfastly protected the rights of parents to choose what does and does not get injected into their children’s bodies.

Congressional Resolution 327 is particularly troubling in light of what other multi-national corporate interests have achieved in the ravaging of our country’s legislative integrity. When the tiny state of Vermont had the audacity to pass a consumer protective, mandatory GMO labeling law, Monsanto swooped in and immediately pushed through a much weaker, voluntary national GMO (non)labeling law. The national law effectively nullified the efforts and intentions of the people of Vermont.

Citizens in every state are now effectively organized to protect medical freedom and it will not be surprising to see legislators at the federal level coming to the aid of their corporate sponsors to force compulsory vaccinations upon all Americans.

As seen in California’s draconian SB 277, it is the desire of the pharmaceutical industry and their legislative cronies to have unlimited enforcement authority over an unlimited number of vaccinations. This should be of grave concern to all of us regardless of religious beliefs or political affiliations. Every citizen of these United States, and every citizen of the world for that matter, has (or should have) the right to informed consent.

We hold the imperative to be deeply informed about the ingredients, effects, and functionality of vaccines so that we can wisely decide upon their use or their avoidance.  It is critical for responsible citizens to be cognizant of the control the pharmaceutical industry has upon the official narrative about disease and health. Hint: the official story corresponds to reality about as much as your grade school history lessons about Christopher Columbus do.

The official story and those who repeat it would have us believe that without our unwavering devotion to vaccines, western civilization would inevitably slide into a dark abyss of rampant disease and apocalyptic morbidity. The truth, however difficult it may be to come to terms with, is that vaccines such as those for polio and smallpox have, in fact, been introduced to the public at the end of the intended disease’s natural cycle and actually contributed not to those diseases demise but to their continuation.

Other vaccines such as the HepB shot AT BIRTH are, when considered with any semblance of logic or any remaining shred of ‘mother’s intuition’, ridiculously and dangerously unnecessary. The medical establishment has even conceded that the HepB shot is given at day one because well, what if that baby never comes to a doctor again? HepB is most often contracted by sharing dirty intravenous drug needles and by unprotected, promiscuous sex.

It can be transferred from a hepB positive mother to her infant but if you don’t have the disease your baby won’t either. So why this shot? Why on day one? Here’s the harsh reality: to train you. If they can convince you to give your new born child a shot that is so obviously unnecessary, they got you. You’ll do anything they say. Your submission is absolute. You are now the perfect, unquestioning consumer. Quite literally from cradle to grave.

Understand that the goal of the pharmaceutical industry is to create customers and from those customers squeeze out as much profit as possible. Period. As corporations, their responsibility it to their shareholders. They have a well documented history of selling many products in their other lines that knowingly caused severe injury and death of tens of thousands. They do not care.

Why or how could one assume that their vaccine divisions would be any different? Do you really think they produce these products out of some altruistic motive? Would the push for mandatory vaccinations exist if there was not such a massive profit motive? In 1986, faced with mounting lawsuits for vaccine induced injuries, the vaccine industry successfully blackmailed Congress to provide them with complete indemnity.

Rather than committing to make safer, more effective vaccines the industry threatened to cease all production of vaccines unless they were granted immunity from all prosecution. This, ironically, is the only true immunity ever offered by vaccines.

Parents, hold your baby close, no matter what his or her age. Marvel at her perfection. As you gaze at your child, ask yourself, are willing for your child to be used for target practice?


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About the author

Phil Silberman

Phil Silberman is a board member of the Colorado Coalition for Vaccine Choice. The organization is dedicated to promoting informed consent and protecting vaccine choice in Colorado. Phil is passionate about keeping his daughter safe and healthy.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    “The truth, however difficult it may be to come to terms with, is that vaccines such as those for polio and smallpox have, in fact, been introduced to the public at the end of the intended disease’s natural cycle and actually contributed not to those diseases demise but to their continuation.”

    “…a strong immune system is never created by injecting foreign, complex manufactured chemical compounds into one’s muscle mass but by good nutrition, adequate rest, and plenty of clean water.”
    The stupid, it burns.

  • Lee Reikert

    Thanks for pointing out the strongest arguments in the article. You’re right, those are the path to health……not vaccinations and pharmaceuticals.

  • John

    The medical industry has thrown out the idea that it is the immune system that heals and protects, not drugs. Drugs are ALL toxic chemicals designed to create a reaction, are NOT nutritive in any way, and side effects are the immune system making a desperate effort to eliminate the toxic waste from drugs. Ultimately, it is the terrain or the “host” that needs to be supported and every effort to strengthen the immune system in all of us humans, the animals, and the plants being systematically dismantled as nature made them.

    These so called “scientists” are nothing more than bargain basement hacks making every attempt to play God without the credentials. The arrogance of these “want-a-be’s” is truly astounding. The body is a system, not individual parts separated from each other. Each part of the body is integral to all the other parts.

    Vaccines are just more of the same ole BAD SCIENCE that has been kludged together to give the appearance of the wonder’s of science, but is nothing more than soylent green concocted to look like great achievements, while ignoring the clear evidence to the damage they are causing in every single victim being injected with t hose poisons.

    Vaccine supporters are nothing more than CHILD ABUSERS and need to be treated as such with the Child Abuse List so we know not to associated with them or live next to them. They need to be SHUNNED and CALLED OUT to provide proof, evidence, etc. that has been thoroughly reviewed by totally independent REAL SCIENTISTS giving real data that is not manipulated and massaged to fit the drug company agendas.

    If you look at the drug industry and medical industry in America, it is all about DEATH and DESTRUCTION, not health building and living a good life to the end that exceeds all expectations. What person do you know that is deficient in a drug? LOL

  • Richard

    You guys need to look into the law itself and how it is non-mandatory to be a person on which all statues like California’s SB277 apply. They only apply to persons. So claim your children’s names, claim your and their birthcertificates and the ‘State’ which is really just a company won’t own those ‘abadoned’ names. This is how it works in a nuttshell, look it up. Only a few laws apply to humans, the rest lies on the artificially created person with the same name as you have, only it has a first and lastname, usually in ALL CAPS. This is called Capitis diminutio.
    You as a human have a calling name and family name.

  • Pam Long

    This.
    Needed to be said.
    I know it’s a hard pill to swallow, for some.

    Possible Discussion Questions:
    1. When the obesity vaccine rolls out, then will we finally start discussing the role of nutrition that fuels our immune system and health?
    2. Perhaps discuss the role of avoiding toxins and lab created viruses, and not injecting them into the tissue and bloodstream where the body will respond to foreign invaders with auto-immune disease, due to bypassing the natural immune system through the mucus membranes and saliva.
    3. When adults have vaccine mandates imposed on them, will we then start discussing contra-indications and potential adverse reactions to vaccines? Example: Penicillin is a good treatment option for some, but fatal for others.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Lol good one:) For a minute I thought you were serious!

  • AK

    Another clueless physician who has been brainwashed by the medical establishment to believe that the only way to health are toxic vaccines and chemicals. It always amazes me how physicians who are supposedly smart can’t figure out that they have been duped by a massive, corrupt pharmaceutical industry that is far more concerned about their bottom line than the health of their captive customers.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Do you believe good nutrition, adequate rest and plenty of clean water eradicated smallpox? Or did you get your education from YouTube? I mean you believe in chemtrails for God’s sake. I can’t wait to see your references.

  • AK

    It doesn’t matter what I believe, the only thing that matters are the facts and the truth and the fact is that the vast majority of diseases were eradicated through clean water and better sanitary conditions NOT by vaccines. Scarlet fever and numerous other diseases killed millions of people in this country before sanitary conditions improved. There was never a vaccine for Scarlet Fever and yet it was eradicated. So, yes proper nutrition, clean water and good sanitary conditions are far more effective in building a strong immune system than injecting a toxic cocktail of poisons into your body.
    BTW Chemtrails, better known as solar radiation management or geo-engineering are visible with the naked eyes. Condensation trails evaporate quickly while chemical particulates linger, spread and form unnatural cloud formations that are designed to block sunlight. There are plenty of government documents confirming this but the Chemtrail conspiracy narrative is supposed to mislead people. Obviously it has worked on you just like the vaccine hoax.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Scarlet fever was eradicated when exactly? Did you see that on YouTube?

  • Ann

    Because there is no vaccine against Scarlet Fever, we see less and less of it. The only children who get Scarlet Fever, now, are the ones who have been vaccinated against childhood diseases, like my daughter, for instance.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So are you saying it’s been eradicated or that we are seeing less of it or that we are seeing more of it? What are you saying?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/health-42135842

  • 4and20

    Yes… Reported Scarlet Fever (strep infection) cases have hit a 50 year high in the UK!

  • Ann

    Come on, Karl. Does less and less mean that it is eradicated? Vaccinated kids get it more often than unvaccinated kids because their immune system has been compromised by toxic elements.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Your post was all over the place, hon, but it looks like you agree it isn’t eradicated. So what studies can you link showing vaccinated kids get scarlet fever more often than unvaccinated kids? Or that vaccines compromise the immune system? Or did someone on facebook just say that?

  • Brian

    Yup. It’s true. Clean water and better sanitary conditions caused all these diseases to go away…

    Clean water made polio go away starting in 1954.

    Clean water made measles go away starting in 1963.

    Clean water made rotavirus go away starting in 2005….

    It’s funny how clean water picks certain years to make diseases go away.

  • AK

    Any historic charts showing the occurance of diseases clearly show a DRAMATIC decline in infections disease well BEFORE the introduction of vaccines.
    In areas of the world which have limited access to clean water, nutritious food and suffer poor sanitary conditions, the same diseases are still rampant DESPITE attempts to limit these diseases through vaccinations.

    The key to reducing disease is to build a strong immune system through clean water, good nutrition and proper sanitation. Injecting known neurotoxins and other dangerous chemicals into the body actually weakens the immune system which is why so many people get sick after vaccinations as the body is trying to eliminate the toxins that were injected.

    There are numerous independent studies (not funded by Big Pharma) that clearly document that unvaccinated children are far health than their vaccinated counter-parts. So iyou might want to consider doing some research on some other sites than the CDC or Big Pharma which have an incestuous relationship to benefit each other.
    Big Pharma is big business and unfortunately they care more about their bottom line (by making vaccines increasingly mandatory) than the health of their victims.

  • Brian

    AK says “Any historic charts showing the occurance of diseases clearly show a DRAMATIC decline in infections disease well BEFORE the introduction of vaccines.”

    Apparently you never did your research. That isn’t true at all.

    Polio incidence was going UP before 1954, and then plummeted afterward.
    Measles incidence was unchanged for over fifty years (as long as it was being tracked) before 1963, and then plummeted over 90%, permanently, within the next decade.

    The same thing happened with many other diseases.

    Do your research. Conspiracy blogs aren’t research.

  • AK

    Below is just one of many independent studies that show that unvaccinated children enjoy superior health to their vaccinated counter-parts. Studies done in Germany, Australia and other parts of the world clearly show that vaccinated children have far higher incidents of allergies and a variety of chronic diseases.
    Chemicals and neurotoxins injected into our babies have devastating consequences and the medical establishment refuses to acknowledge that.
    The CDC is a criminal organization that tried to destroy all evidence that clearly shows a significant risk of autism with the MMR vaccine in African American boys. Dr. Thompson, the CDC whistle blower, saved and shared over 10,000 internal documents that prove that the CDC has known all along that vaccines cause autism and instead of doing something about it, they are doubling down and introducing more and more vaccines. I hope to see the day that these criminals will be held accountable for knowingly harming our children.
    No punishment could be severe enough for these despicable, in-human creatures at the CDC and Big Pharma who are behind this cover up. And congress is culpable as well for refusing to depose Dr. Thompson since everyone of these worthless politicians is owned by Big Pharma money.

    http://healthimpactnews.com/2017/vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-guess-who-is-sicker/

  • Brian

    1. That “study” you refer to was an uncontrolled survey of disproportionately anti vaccine parents. That’s not a study by any scientific standard.

    2. Apparently you missed the memo that all of William Thompson’s documents have been available to the public for two years. They’ve all been reviewed, and Thompson himself said no data was ever destroyed. Turns out that vaccines still don’t cause autism, even in African American boys.

  • AK

    I guess it comes down to who you believe. The research by Big Pharma which needs to paint a picture of how effective vaccines have been or the independent research from scientists who are not owned and paid for by Big Pharma which have clearly documented that infections disease had massively declined due to better sanitary conditions and clean water as a result of indoor plumbing and the use of water treatment plants. Big Pharma spends billions on advertising and providing fictitious studies that help their cause. It’s that simple. So yes be careful what propaganda you believe because Big Pharma virtually owns our main stream media by spending billions on advertising. They OWN the news when it comes to vaccinations and medications, so that you only ever hear the story THEY want you to hear. YOU REALLY DON”T GET THAT???

  • Brian

    Well, you just completely contradicted yourself.

    First you said that historic charts all show disease going down before the vaccine, but when the historic charts show the opposite, you claim it’s all a fabricated conspiracy “Big Pharma”.

    Just how far does this conspiracy go? Every country in the world, even those with socialized medicine and those generally considered adversaries to western countries? Every medical organization, scientist, biologist, statistician, anthropologist, historian…? Man, pulling off this conspiracy is going to be hard.

  • AK

    Apparently you don’t understand how the CDC twists the truth after being caught with their pants down. The original documents don’t lie and fortunately the movie VAXXED has done a great job showing what really happened. But regardless, the truth is that MILLIONS of parents around the world who have seen their child change over night after vaccinations KNOW that vaccines cause autism. They have seen it with their own eyes and THEY KNOW what happened to their children. No its not genetic and its not coincidence when millions of children are suddenly affected by a brain inflammation caused by the toxic chemicals contained in vaccines which then result in brain damage also known as autism. The only people who don’t believe it are Big Pharma shills and those idiots who believe the lies by the medical establishment that massively profits from harming our children.

  • Brian

    The unvaccinated develop autism at the same rate as the vaccinated, so it’s obvious vaccines don’t cause it. It’s not a conspiracy, it’s math.

  • AK

    You ask the right question. How deep does the conspiracy go?
    Let’s just say that BIG PHARMA completely controls the entire medical establishment. They dictate what is taught in medical school and the only thing that is taught is how vaccines and medications made by Big Pharma are our salvation to good health. Nutrition and other natural remedies to help build a strong immune system to fight disease are completely ignored and even ridiculed. Chemicals and toxins are far superior and the more they can convince the public that only chemicals can cure you, the more money they make. I could go far deeper but you get the point. In the end beliefs are irrelevant, what matters is the truth. And if you think that Big Pharma who is protecting a TRILLION dollar industry at all costs is telling you the truth about vaccines and medications that make them billions then you will eventually suffer the consequences of being so gullible.

  • AK

    I have yet to encounter a single parent who claims that their child has autism despite not being vaccinated. I am not saying it can’t happen but it would have to be pretty rare. On the other hand there are literally thousands upon thousands of parents who tell exactly the same story about what happened to their perfectly normal child after another round of vaccines. And that is just the tip of the iceberg since the vast majority of parents are afraid to speak out in fear of the backlash from brain washed morons who ridicule and even demonize parents for making “false” claims that their child’s autism was caused by vaccines. It’s amazing how parents who make those claims are shunned by their own family and friends. That is how deep rooted the Big Pharma propaganda is in this country!
    The dramatic increase of autism is perfectly correlated with the number of vaccines administered in early childhood as recommended by the criminal CDC. We used to have one in 15,000 children with autism when we administered a couple of vaccines to children. Today we administer 69 vaccines per the CDC schedule by the time a child turns 18 and we now have 1 in 40 to 45 children on the autism spectrum. They are constantly adding new vaccines and more boosters to the vaccination schedule and I’m sure we will reach 100 vaccines pretty soon. I’m sure the rate of autism will be 1 in 20 or 25 by then. When do we have enough vaccines? 100, 1000? A MIT researcher concluded that at the current rate 1 in 2 children will have autism in less than twenty years. Are we just going to ignore this and assume that vaccines are not the cause despite millions of parents telling us otherwise? How far does this need to go, how many more lives do we let them destroy before people take this seriously and realize that the Big Pharma propaganda machines has lied to us all along?

  • Brian

    Does big pharma also controls this website?

    After all, they make more money when people refuse vaccines.

  • Brian

    I have yet to encounter a single parent who claims that their child has autism despite not being vaccinated.

    Well, there have been tons of studies that show this. Your lack of education on this issue doesn’t change the facts.

    On the other hand there are literally thousands upon thousands of parents who tell exactly the same story about what happened to their perfectly normal child after another round of vaccines.

    Yup. Brian Hooker was one of these parents, and tried to sue to make a lot of money from his kid’s autism. Then his autistic son’s medical records were opened up, showing all the hospital visits, phone calls, and developmental milestone dates of their child. Brian Hooker’s wife acknowledged the records were accurate. Facts show that their child was showing signs of autism long before vaccination, and there was no sudden change afterwards. So at least some of these parents are lying.

    The dramatic increase of autism is perfectly correlated with the number of vaccines…

    Apparently you never did your research. Baxter et al. (2014) showed that, when using the same diagnosis criteria, the autism rate hasn’t changed in at least 25 years. Facts matter.

  • Here is where you’re own stupidity really burns, false identity, Wegner. Time for you to educate yourself to the vaccine truth. Polio vaccine as well did NOT eradicate polio, and all we need to do is go to the real history recorded by those that lived at the time. SV40 sure was a good thing as well; don’t you think? That’s right, you DON’T think! To do so ruins all your known misinformation and you would have to face reality. Not going to happen, is it?

    Do you STILL think that vaccines are proven as safe and effective, even multiple vaccines with 5 and up to 9 or more vaccines given in a single day and office visit? No safety studies have been done, much more any that show a safety profile!!!! Its all about greed, control, and billion dollar profits!

    Study: Record Levels of Aluminum Found in Autistic Children Brain Tissue

    November 28, 2017 4:04 pm

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    Dr. Christopher Exley—one of the world’s leading experts on aluminum toxicity—has shown that chronic intoxication with myriad forms of this “ubiquitous and omnipresent metal” is exacting a high price on human health. Dr. Exley and other aluminum experts such as molecular biologist Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic have confirmed that aluminum readily and actively traverses the blood-brain barrier to selectively accumulate in brain tissues, where it induces unwelcome changes in brain biochemistry. As Dr. Exley has noted, “There are no ‘normal’ levels of brain aluminum,” meaning that “its presence in brain tissue, at any level, could be construed as abnormal” In light of the fact that even minute amounts of aluminum can have adverse neurological consequences, Dr. Exley’s newest paper—which reports on the first-ever study of aluminum in ASD brain tissue—is groundbreaking. Published in the Journal of Trace Elements in Medicine and Biology, the paper documents some of the highest values for aluminum in human brain tissue ever recorded. Using a two-pronged study design, the researchers measured and characterized aluminum deposits in brain tissues from five to ten ASD donors, most of whom died in their teens or twenties. What the research team found was startling. The study’s quantitative arm documented “consistently high” aluminum levels representing “some of the highest values for brain aluminum content ever measured in healthy or diseased tissues.”

    Read More…
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2017/study-record-levels-of-aluminum-found-in-autistic-children-brain-tissue/

    Aluminium in brain tissue in autism

    Abstract
    Autism spectrum disorder is a neurodevelopmental disorder of unknown aetiology. It is suggested to involve both genetic susceptibility and environmental factors including in the latter environmental toxins. Human exposure to the environmental toxin aluminium has been linked, if tentatively, to autism spectrum disorder. Herein we have used transversely heated graphite furnace atomic absorption spectrometry to measure, for the first time, the aluminium content of brain tissue from donors with a diagnosis of autism. We have also used an aluminium-selective fluor to identify aluminium in brain tissue using fluorescence microscopy. The aluminium content of brain tissue in autism was consistently high. The mean (standard deviation) aluminium content across all 5 individuals for each lobe were 3.82(5.42), 2.30(2.00), 2.79(4.05) and 3.82(5.17) μg/g dry wt. for the occipital, frontal, temporal and parietal lobes respectively. These are some of the highest values for aluminium in human brain tissue yet recorded and one has to question why, for example, the aluminium content of the occipital lobe of a 15 year old boy would be 8.74 (11.59) μg/g dry wt.? Aluminium-selective fluorescence microscopy was used to identify aluminium in brain tissue in 10 donors. While aluminium was imaged associated with neurones it appeared to be present intracellularly in microglia-like cells and other inflammatory non-neuronal cells in the meninges, vasculature, grey and white matter. The pre-eminence of intracellular aluminium associated with non-neuronal cells was a standout observation in autism brain tissue and may offer clues as to both the origin of the brain aluminium as well as a putative role in autism spectrum disorder.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0946672X17308763

    Full study: (scroll down on page)
    https://ac.els-cdn.com/S0946672X17308763/1-s2.0-S0946672X17308763-main.pdf?_tid=f2be2fde-d56d-11e7-9e32-00000aab0f27&acdnat=1512005566_4d3d686804922e47e0b559810404e854

    New Study: 10x more aluminum in brains with autism

    From our friends at the Children’s Medical Safety Research Institute

    Discovery of “Shockingly High” Levels of Aluminum in Brains of Individuals with Autism Suggests Link with Aluminum-Containing Vaccines

    STAFFORDSHIRE, UNITED KINGDOM–(Marketwired – November 28, 2017) – A new study published in the Journal of Trace Elements in Medicine and Biology provides the strongest indication yet that aluminum is an etiological agent in autism spectrum disorder (ASD), according to researchers at Keele University in England.

    The study used transversely heated graphite furnace atomic absorption spectrometry to measure, for the first time, the aluminum content of brain tissue from five donors who had died with diagnoses of ASD. The results showed the donors to have had some of the highest values of aluminum yet measured in human brain tissue.

    The mean (standard deviation) aluminum content across all five individuals for each lobe were 3.82(5.42), 2.30(2.00), 2.79(4.05) and 3.82(5.17) mg/g dry wt. for the occipital, frontal, temporal and parietal lobes respectively. Previous measurements of 60 brains from humans not diagnosed with ASD showed an average content of 1 mg/g dry wt. of brain tissue.

    “One has to wonder why aluminum in the occipital lobe of a 15-year-old boy with autism would be a value that is at least 10 times higher than what might be considered acceptable for an elderly adult?” said Christopher Exley PhD, Professor in Bioinorganic Chemistry and author of the study. Another ground-breaking study by Exley and his team, published earlier in the year, identified similarly high levels of aluminum in the brains of individuals who died of familial Alzheimer’s disease.

    While the aluminum content of each of the five brains was extraordinarily high, it was the location of the aluminum in the brain tissue that served as the standout observation. The majority of aluminum was identified inside non-neuronal cells including microglia and astrocytes. Aluminum was also found in lymphocytes in the meninges and in similar inflammatory cells in the vasculature. According to the researchers, there was clear evidence of inflammatory cells heavily loaded with aluminum entering the brain via the meningeal membranes and the blood-brain-barrier.

    Aluminum-selective fluorescence microscopy was used to identify aluminum in the brain tissue of 10 donors. The results strongly suggest that aluminum is entering the brain in ASD via pro-inflammatory cells which have become loaded up with aluminum in the blood and/or lymph, much as has been demonstrated for monocytes at injection sites for vaccines including aluminum adjuvants.

    The fact that the majority of aluminum found in brain tissues in ASD was intracellular and associated with non-neuronal cells is, at least for now, unique to ASD and may begin to explain why young adolescents had so much aluminum in their brains.

    “The research does not infer that Al is a cause of autism, “said Exley, who also authored Human Exposure to Aluminum. “But these very high concentrations of a neurotoxin in brain tissue are not going to be benign and will contribute to neurodegeneration in affected tissues.”

    This study was funded by the Children’s Medical Safety Research Institute, a 502(c)3 nonprofit organization dedicated to funding independent research into the causal factors behind today’s epidemic of childhood chronic illness and disability.

    Access to the full article here:
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0946672X17308763

    November 28, 2017 07:00 ET
    Discovery of “Shockingly High” Levels of Aluminum in Brains of Individuals with Autism Suggests Link with Aluminum-Containing Vaccines
    http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/discovery-shockingly-high-levels-aluminum-brains-individuals-with-autism-suggests-link-2241940.htm

    Big Pharma and Big Profits: The Multibillion Dollar Vaccine Market – New Report says “Vaccine Market” Worth $61 Billion by 2020
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/big-pharma-and-big-profits-the-multibillion-dollar-vaccine-market/5503945

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    CMSRI-funded Research
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    Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism?
    Tomljenovic L1, Shaw CA.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22099159

    Aluminum?s Role in CNS-immune System Interactions leading to Neurological Disorders
    https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/aluminums-role-in-cnsimmune-system-interactions-leading-to-neurological-disorders-14822-1745-7580-9-069.php?aid=20403

    Immunol Res. 2013 Jul;56(2-3):304-16. doi: 10.1007/s12026-013-8403-1.
    Aluminum in the central nervous system (CNS): toxicity in humans and animals, vaccine adjuvants, and autoimmunity.
    Shaw CA1, Tomljenovic L.

    Abstract
    We have examined the neurotoxicity of aluminum in humans and animals under various conditions, following different routes of administration, and provide an overview of the various associated disease states. The literature demonstrates clearly negative impacts of aluminum on the nervous system across the age span. In adults, aluminum exposure can lead to apparently age-related neurological deficits resembling Alzheimer’s and has been linked to this disease and to the Guamanian variant, ALS-PDC. Similar outcomes have been found in animal models. In addition, injection of aluminum adjuvants in an attempt to model Gulf War syndrome and associated neurological deficits leads to an ALS phenotype in young male mice. In young children, a highly significant correlation exists between the number of pediatric aluminum-adjuvanted vaccines administered and the rate of autism spectrum disorders. Many of the features of aluminum-induced neurotoxicity may arise, in part, from autoimmune reactions, as part of the ASIA syndrome.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23609067

    Human Papilloma Virus Vaccine and Primary Ovarian Failure:
    Another Facet of the Autoimmune/Inflammatory Syndrome
    Induced by Adjuvants
    http://www.luontaisnetti.fi/hpv/3%20cases%20of%20Primary%20Ovarian%20Failure%20following%20HPVvaccination,%20Am%20J%20Reproductive%20Immunol%202013.pdf

  • Chemtrails actually exist, just exist google it and look up in the sky. Do you actually think that your derelict level of obvious ignorance and stupidity is actually going to continue to fly here? Oh, that’s right, you are only into this for the in denial, harassment value. You know, and because you personally can not yourself handle life’s truth and reality. Just keep living in the dark ages, shill sicko; and while the rest of us keep on getting educated. Your are so deranged that you even continue using the false identity of a deceased doctor. Explain it, you can’t.

    Karl H. Wegner
    http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/argusleader/obituary.aspx?pid=170508529

    Chemtrails
    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/11/01/pilots-doctors-scientists-tell-the-truth-about-chemtrailsgeo-engineering/

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Lowell, polio hasn’t been eradicated.

    And in the aluminum brain study what levels did they find in the controls?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Do you think 911 was an inside job? Did we fake the moon landings also?

    And you’re still upset about being banned from my library aren’t you?

  • Vaccines have caused and continue to cause the emergence of new illnesses and the re-emergence of illnesses we had thought were long past. That is good for big pharma’s fat wallet though because then they can create more toxic and contaminated vaccines, and now since 1987 with no legal liability. Just like the crude bacterial vaccines during WW1 created the so called 1918 flu pandemic

    The 1918 Influenza Epidemic was a Vaccine-caused Disease
    https://spktruth2power.wordpress.com/2009/07/11/the-1918-influenza-epidemic-was-a-vaccine-caused-disease/

    Are vaccines causing RSV and other diseases?
    https://www.naturalnews.com/038583_vaccines_RSV_immune_system.html

    Big Pharma and Big Profits: The Multibillion Dollar Vaccine Market – New Report says “Vaccine Market” Worth $61 Billion by 2020
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/big-pharma-and-big-profits-the-multibillion-dollar-vaccine-market/5503945

  • Just as always you refuse to read the study yourself and determine what the study states directly. Just read the study and learn. You have failed to this point on every level and you will continue to.

    Polio is considered as eradicated in the US and I never said it was eradicated as far as the rest of the world. You make false claims out of nothing as always, Pinocchio Wegner. What about the 50,000 cases of acute flaccid paralysis in India alone, and all of it directly correlated increasing directly those numbers each time there was a push again and again with the OPV.

    New Paper – Polio Vaccine – Disease Caused by Vaccine Twice As Fatal – Third World Duped – Scarce Money Wasted – Polio Eradication Impossible
    https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2012/04/07/third-world-duped-on-polio-eradication/

    India Still Reporting Cases of Polio-like Acute Flaccid Paralysis
    https://vaccineimpact.com/2015/india-still-reporting-cases-of-polio-like-acute-flaccid-paralysis/

    India to get polio-free status amid rise in acute flaccid paralysis cases – Government, in its rush to get polio-free certification, has ignored increasing cases of similar ailments, say activists
    http://www.livemint.com/Politics/XS6vPor5jFX3vKkaE7Ri6H/India-to-get-poliofree-status-amid-rise-in-acute-flaccid-pa.html

  • And you are actually that ignorant and literally brain dead stupid? In this age of information, such in denial and massive levels of ignorance, are a choice. You have no library as the founder is deceased, and you somehow simply assumed his identity. The only person involved with that said banning is living off the grid and in hiding. So how is that going, after running off in 2010? I got back in that library not that long after that and they never said a word, and I no longer need it as I have my own systems. If you want real health information, Wegner Library is the last place anyone should look for that. Actually Sanford is a big joke and with a mislead money bags founder that doesn’t have a clue what is really going on in health care; but he keeps filling his pockets with all the additional money making opportunities and benefits, anyway. Actually T Denny never put a nickle in that hospital because he made it all back plus a large profit. There was a large article on it that came out of a major newspaper in Minnesota.

    How old are you now, late 70’s? Go ahead and tell everyone what you did in 2010 and why you ran away and went into hiding..

  • When was polio eradicated in the US? Looks like it was right after they discontinued spraying DDT. When it DDT was briefly resumed on a very limited basis, then immediately there was post polio syndrome. That would suggest there is no real immunity and that polio was not a virus at all. How many vaccines have you recently had, take a screen shot of the records and post it here? I have had none in 43 years now. Where are the epidemics? Millions of adults have never been re-vaccinated. So much for vaccine derived herd immunity.

  • LIAR. That is NOT what the situation and nor the evidence shows. Get off the false propaganda disinformation bus, and in believing only the false propaganda bull crap that has been fed to you.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    They didn’t use controls, Lowell.
    And as you know, non-polio AFP isn’t due to OPV. We have NP-AFP in the US. We don’t use OPV.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You’re still banned, Lowell.
    And like many AVs, you are just another crazy conspiracy theorist.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Polio was eradicated in the US in 1979, Lowell, and we already knew you were a germ theory denialist. But thanks for reinforcing that.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    What are your thoughts on scarlet fever, Lowell?

  • sabelmouse

    you seem to think that germ theory is law. it’s a theory.

  • AK

    So you trust Baxter and Pharmaceutical companies over countless parents who all tell the same story? You effectively have been brain washed if you are so ignorant to believe companies like Baxter. It’s amazing to me how people still believe what pharmaceutical companies have to say after they have literally killed millions of people with their toxic medications over the last few decades.
    As they say you can ignore reality but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. Thousands of distraught, parents who lost their loved ones to autism are not lying. They know what happened to their children and yet they have NO VOICE since their stories are not being told.
    One in 45 children with autism is not a myth, it is a reality. Soon it will be 1 in 25 and sooner or later our society will completely collapse because no country can support that many dysfunctional children and adults.
    This the greatest health epidemic this country faces and the vast majority of people like yourself are clueless.
    This should be front line news, this should be all the news talks about because millions are affected by this epidemic. But you get nothing but silence because once people understand what is happening and ask questions the truth will come out. Big Pharma can never allow the truth to become widely known and so they are doing everything in their power to suppress the real facts. People like yourself are falling for it and as a result this horrendous epidemic will get worse and worse. Fortunately millions of people are waking up to the truth and this momentum only will build as more and more people become aware as they start to see with their own eyes the damage that are caused by vaccines.
    More and more vaccines and boosters will only accelerate the awakening. Big Pharma has not yet figured out that their greed will ultimately lead to their demise.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    As is the theory of gravity. Do you believe in the theory of gravity?

  • AK

    Actually Big Pharma is petrified of the fact that people are starting to refuse vaccines because not only are vaccines a tremendous source of income but all the chronic diseases caused by vaccines lead to a life-long stream of revenue from the medications they sell to treat all the countless vaccine injuries. It is a perfect business model as long as people don’t figure this out.
    These days most children and adults are on medication for something. Last summer I dropped my kids at a YMCA camp and there were 3 long lines of parents waiting to drop their kids’ medications with a camp nurse. Then there was one line for parents whose children don’t take medications with nobody in it.
    When I went to camp as kid I don’t remember a single one of my friends being on any kind of medication. Whatever we are doing in this country is obviously not working and the number of vaccines administered early on are clearly contributing to this health epidemic. Yes there are other problems, such as GMO and processed foods, environmental pollution, fluorinated water and other things that are contributing to this health epidemic but vaccines remain the single biggest factor in the sudden explosion of childhood diseases, allergies and autism.

  • sabelmouse

    science isn’t about belief.

  • sabelmouse

    why would they?
    there’s nothing much to be made from most so called vpd, but the chronic illnesses caused by vaccines are lucrative.

  • sabelmouse

    eradicated is a supremely silly term in relation to this.
    and why would you bring up scarlet fever?

  • sabelmouse

    and i thought this was about actual birthing, also big business, don’t want people to do that simply at home with a midwife, and of course the horrendous commercialism around all the things babies/mothers supposedly need.

  • sabelmouse

    yes to the first. sensible terrorists would have targetet iconic buildings rather than eyesores.

  • Brian

    Read my comment again. Some of those parents are lying, and you’re gullible enough to fall for their scams.

    Besides, anecdotes aren’t evidence.

  • Brian

    What values is bigger sm?

    $100 or $10,000

    Basic math is important.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Are you happy just being a troll then?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    AK brought it up, claiming scarlet fever eradication was a good example of infectious diseases disappearing without vaccines. It was a silly claim though I agree.

  • sabelmouse

    that’s even sillier than your usual stuff.

  • sabelmouse

    what is this nonsense?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So what would have been more effective than bringing down the WTC? The space needle?

  • sabelmouse

    where?

  • sabelmouse

    is that in new york?

  • Brian

    sabelmouse asks “what is this nonsense?”

    They’re called numbers.

  • Brian

    Read the comment thread you’re responding to. AK posted three days ago “There was never a vaccine for Scarlet Fever and yet it was eradicated”

    AK has had three days to correct this misinformation, but has refused to do so, because AK is dishonest.

  • sabelmouse

    omg!

  • sabelmouse

    the most sensical thing you’ve ever said.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    I understand why you do it.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    It was a few posts up, before you started trolling. Do you know how to scroll up? I mean with a mouse and stuff?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Yes! It’s literally a huge needle that shoots people into space.

  • Ann

    Yes, we are seeing more and more scarlet fever in the UK, but only among the vaccinated. In the UK, they love to vaccinate and destroy the children.

  • AK

    Some of those parents are lying but Big Pharma only ever tells the truth???
    Really?? I don’t know how many documentaries I have seen with Oscar worthy performances of completely distraught parents whose lives have been ruined after their child got the latest rounds of poison injected into their body.
    If these parents were lying and acting they truly are talented and should be in Hollywood.
    You are a complete moron if you believe that thousands of parents would lie about their children being damaged by vaccines while Big Pharma would not fabricate data to protect their Trillion dollar industry. Talk about being gullible.

  • Brian

    Brian says “AK has had three days to correct this misinformation, but has refused to do so, because AK is dishonest”

    sabelmouse say “the most sensical thing you ever said”

    Making progress, sm!

  • Brian

    You’re making progress AK!

    At least you admit that some of these parents are lying, and would be better off as actors in Hollywood.

    Now I wonder- are there any people who call themselves doctors and scientists but really just make movies…?
    Why yes! Yes there are! Andrew Wakefield and company- and many of those that push the autism conspiracies. They don’t treat children or have any relevant expertise, but they love to make movies telling people they do!

  • As I said I have previously been back in that Wegner Library many times since then, and no one said a word. That was now about 3 years ago. Obviously you are out of the communication loop. I don’t live in SF anymore and have had no longer any need of their IT system as I once did. Otherwise, their health care information is in most cases more worthless than a pile of used toilet paper. If you were yet a sheeple you would be mislead into thinking it was a great place of info; but it is not. Their mislead sheeple medical students apparently love it. I am waiting for another large community flu shots clinic so I can go back and hand out information on how worthless and adverse effects risky the flu vaccines are. Unfortunately you won’t be able to attend.

  • Mike Stevens

    “There was never a vaccine for Scarlet Fever and yet it was eradicated.”

    Would that be why there was a new high for reported cases in the UK last year, at over 19,000?

  • Mike Stevens

    “Because there is no vaccine against Scarlet Fever, we see less and less of it.”

    Evidence shows we are seeing more and more of it though.
    Probably because, as you rightly say, there is no vaccine used against it.

  • Mike Stevens

    You antivaxers bring it up all the time, for some unknown reason, mousey.

  • Mike Stevens

    Yup.
    …The years they (entirely coincidentally) introduced the vaccine!
    😉

  • shay simmons

    Because there is no vaccine against Scarlet Fever, we see less and less of it.

    The age-old killer scarlet fever is on the rise in England and East Asia, according to research published Monday in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal, and investigators don’t know why.

    “Whilst current rates (in England) are nowhere near those seen in the early 1900s, the magnitude of the recent upsurge is greater than any documented in the last century,” said study author Theresa Lamagni of Public Health England, the agency that funded the analysis. “Whilst notifications so far for 2017 suggest a slight decrease in numbers, we continue to monitor the situation carefully … and research continues to further investigate the rise.”

    “As scarlet fever cases rise, baffled researchers investigate”
    By Sandee LaMotte, CNN

  • shay simmons

    And…Ann jukes.

  • FallsAngel

    The Baxter being referred to in Brian’s post is a researcher, Amanda Baxter, not the pharma company.
    https://www. vox. com/2014/8/28/6078005/autism-rates-arent-actually-increasing

  • AK

    If some parents were lying that leaves thousands who were not lying. Do you honestly believe that all parents lie while only Big Pharma tells the truth? Only a brain washed idiot or a Big Pharma shill would believe that. Which are you?
    There are thousands of doctors and scientist, who once firmly believed that vaccines were safe and effective and actively promoted vaccines UNTIL they did their own research and realized that the medical establishment is hiding the ugly truth about vaccines. These are highly intelligent researchers who all have one thing in common. They realized that the Big Pharma narrative does not add up because they could see with their own eyes what was happening to their patients after multiple vaccinations. Many of these doctors have come forward at great risk to their reputation and careers to reveal the truth. They have NOTHING to gain by risking their careers to bring the truth to light. But I suppose you believe that every one of these doctors has some kind of personal agenda and is lying about their research findings?
    Yeah, I get it. Everybody lies except the pharmaceutical companies who have the most to gain by not telling the truth about the efficacy and safety of vaccines. What a dope….

  • AK

    That’s funny. Do YOU honestly believe that 18 Arabs with box cutters were able to defeat the most sophisticated military apparatus known to man-kind? Our entire defense operations failed on that fateful day and that can only happen by design and prior knowledge of what was going to happen so that all of our the defense mechanisms would be rendered useless.
    As far as the moon landings, i suppose you have not heard that a senior NASA scientist recently admitted in a live interview that we no longer have the ability to land on the moon. Here we are 50 years later with infinitely higher computing powers but somehow we no longer have the ability to land on the moon? He went on to say that it would take us approx. 20 years to get back to the moon. Another word, what took us 8 years to accomplish in the 1960s with virtually no computers will now take us twenty years! That’s not me saying it, that is NASA who is making these claims. And one wonders why there are so many conspiracy theories (which for the most part always turn out to be conspiracy facts).

  • Citation needed.

    Do you know what scarlet fever actually is, Ann?

    Hint: It’s not technically a disease in its own right. It’s a complication of one.

  • Technically, it is a complication of toxin a positive strep throat.

  • Okay, then, are you going to jump out of a window to test the theory of gravity?

  • Also, above where mousey says “science is not about belief.”

  • Brian

    Let’s see if you understand math, AK.

    In the USA, about 3,600,000 children are born each year who get vaccinated, Assuming a rate of 1:68, 52,800 vaccinated children develop autism each year In 80% of these cases, parents first notice signs of autism between 6 and 24 months (42,200 children)
    with 548 days between 6 and 24 months, that’s 77 children showing signs of autism each day.

    Considering children generally get vaccinated about two times between 6 and 24 months, that means that 154 parents each year will first notice signs of autism within 24 hours, over 1,000 within a week.
    Alternatively, that’s over 10,000 per decade, even though vaccines don’t cause autism.

    Again, anecdotes don’t matter unless the number exceeds the background rate. It doesn’t, so even a thousand stories is zero evidence.

  • AK

    Well in that case Ms. Baxter is clearly lying. How does autism go from 1 in 15,000 to 1 in 40 or 45 and not increase in frequency? Oh, I know, we are better at diagnosing autism today! I guess if you have never seen an autistic child who was brain damaged by vaccinations then you might actually believe such nonsense. People who write such garbage are parasites because there are millions of parents who suffer and whose lives and dreams have been destroyed by this horrendous epidemic caused by vaccines and these creatures have the audacity to claim that all these parents are somehow delusional.

  • Brian

    Lol!
    You believe the “vaccines cause autism” hoax, disproven by the fact that the unvaccinated develop autism at the same rate as the vaccinated.

    You believe the “moon landing was faked” hoax. (fyi- it would have been more expensive to fake the moon landings than to land on the moon in the 1960s, not to mention pay off 50,000 scientists and engineers)

    And 9/11 too? Is there any nonsense you don’t fall for?

  • AK

    The ratio is probably closer to 1 in 50. So out of 3.6M children born every year, approximately 72,000 will develop autism this year. That is 720,000 autistic children in ten years and the incidence rate of autism is rapidly on the rise regardless of the cause. Globally we probably now have millions of children affected by autism because more and more countries are adopting the aggressive vaccination schedule of the US.
    Do you think that this warrants further studies? Each one of these children is damaged for life and will never be productive. Do we owe it to these children and their families to find out what is causing this? If this was ever really investigated the answer would be so obvious because thousands of researchers have already figured it out based on their research which is never allowed to see the light of day in the main stream media. No anybody who has any information questioning the efficacy and safety of vaccines is simply silenced. The reality is that the causes of autism will never be openly discussed because they don’t want people asking questions. This is a taboo subject except for the occasional report that claims that scientists KNOW that vaccines don’t cause autism. They say that the science is settled on this topic which of course is the most un-scientific statement you can make.

  • Only an either entirely mislead or flat out lying shill that obviously can not comprehend even a small part of vaccine reality, would ever claim to that the rate of diagnosed autism is the same for both the vaccinated group and the entirely un-vaccinated population, and which does exist. Go ahead and post the study.

    So as for the subject of moon landing, you think it is all and only about economics and money, and that is your claim. And what kind of a foolish person actually believes that the tallest buildings in NY fell in 7 seconds, and only done by to jets which most of the jet fuel blew out the other side of the building. Jet steel and aluminum can not penetrate solid steel beams and simply disappear into a building like that. Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). No building collapses straight down in its own foot print unless explosives were used, in this case Thermite was found in quantities to much to ignore. How do you explain building 7 falling in the same exact way? Crawl back under your rock and go back to sleep as reality is obviously to much for you to face.

  • Ron Roy

    The medical profession practices ( and I do mean practice ) disease care and NOT health care.

  • Brian

    Wow! You sure ran away fast when you saw the numbers.
    Apparently facts scare you.

    If we use 1:50 instead of 1:68 like you say, then you are actually making my point for me. It means that many more parents will notice signs of autism within a day of vaccination, even though there’s no causal relation.
    You say that “each one of these children is damaged for life and will never be productive.” That would be surprising to the several ASD people I work with that have 6 (or 7) figure salaries. They seem to be doing quite well.

  • Ron Roy

    911Take that up with these guys:http://www.ae911truth.org/

  • I agree, let’s discuss those questions.

    1. We already talk about that. For example:

    http://www.obesityaction.org/educational-resources/resource-articles-2/general-articles/obesity-and-the-immune-system

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3263203/

    2. Perhaps discuss the role of avoiding toxins and lab created viruses, and not injecting them into the tissue and bloodstream where the body will respond to foreign invaders with auto-immune disease, due to bypassing the natural immune system through the mucus membranes and saliva.

    So name two toxins in vaccines and be sure to learn what a toxin is – the word has a very specific meaning in the relevant sciences. Toxicant or toxic ingredients is not quite the same as toxin but if you meant totype one of those, show me the evidence that anything in vaccines is toxic at exposure levels achievable by routine childhood vaccination.

    Name two vaccines injected into the bloodstream (muscles and skin are not bloodstream.) Citation needed wrt to the responding with autoimmune issues. As for mucus membranes, I take it you have no issue with things like flumist then as far as administration routes go?

    Also, vaccines are specifically made to not bypass the natural immune system because that would defeat the point.

    Also, we can watch Balto for the class film.


    3. When adults have vaccine mandates imposed on them, will we then start discussing contra-indications and potential adverse reactions to vaccines? Example: Penicillin is a good treatment option for some, but fatal for others.”

    It’s interesting that you raise the point about penicillin. This is why we have notes on charts that say about contradictions to certain treatment protocols – same as the vaccine mandates have protocols for medical exemptions.

    Also, we already discuss contraindications and potential adverse reactions to vaccines. They’re right on the VISes and Package inserts. So let’s discuss why on earth you want to wait until adults have vaccine mandates imposed on them?

    Upvote for raising such good discussion questions though.

  • AK, do you not know the difference between autism and ASD?

  • Ron Roy

    Polio:
    The polio epidemic was almost over when the vaccine came out so in order to
    inflate the numbers the medical mafia started calling all diseases that were
    similar as polio. Then after everyone was vaccinated they went back into calling
    those other diseases what they really were to make it look like the vaccine
    worked. That vaccine was contaminated with 40 different microorganism that
    didn’t belong there on of them was Simian Virus40 a cancer causing virus that is
    now part of our genome. Since only 1 or 2% of the people diagnosed with polio
    had any residual paralysis that was a lousy trade off. Eliminating sugars and
    taking a few grams of vitamin C per day is just as effective at preventing
    polio.
    Measles vaccine:”It was similar with the measles vaccination. They went through Africa,
    South America and elsewhere, and vaccinated sick and starving children…They thought they
    were wiping out measles, but most of those susceptible to measles died from some other
    disease that they developed as a result of being vaccinated. The vaccination reduced their
    immune levels and acted like an infection. Many got septicaemia, gastro-enteritis,
    etcetera, or made their nutritional status worse and they died from malnutrition. So there
    were very few susceptible infants left alive to get measles. It’s one way to get good
    statistics, kill all those that are susceptible, which is what they literally did.”
    –Dr Kalokerinos, M.D. Dr Kalokerinos
    interview——-International Vaccine Newsletter June 1995
    Rotavirus vaccine:The strong association between vaccination with RRV-TV and
    intussusception among otherwise healthy infants supports the existence of a causal
    relation. — Intussusception among infants given an oral rotavirus
    vaccine., Murphy TV, et al. Epidemiology and Surveillance Division,
    National Immunization Program, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, N
    Engl J Med. 2001 Feb 22;344(8):564-72.Funny how ( when you know the truth about vaccines) clean water, hygiene and better nutrition is the only logical reason diseases declined.

  • Ron Roy

    Polio:
    The polio epidemic was almost over when the vaccine came out so in order to
    inflate the numbers the medical mafia started calling all diseases that were
    similar as polio. Then after everyone was vaccinated they went back into calling
    those other diseases what they really were to make it look like the vaccine
    worked. That vaccine was contaminated with 40 different microorganism that
    didn’t belong there on of them was Simian Virus40 a cancer causing virus that is
    now part of our genome. Since only 1 or 2% of the people diagnosed with polio
    had any residual paralysis that was a lousy trade off. Eliminating sugars and
    taking a few grams of vitamin C per day is just as effective at preventing
    polio.
    Measles vaccine:”It was similar with the measles vaccination. They went through Africa,
    South America and elsewhere, and vaccinated sick and starving children…They thought they
    were wiping out measles, but most of those susceptible to measles died from some other
    disease that they developed as a result of being vaccinated. The vaccination reduced their
    immune levels and acted like an infection. Many got septicaemia, gastro-enteritis,
    etcetera, or made their nutritional status worse and they died from malnutrition. So there
    were very few susceptible infants left alive to get measles. It’s one way to get good
    statistics, kill all those that are susceptible, which is what they literally did.”
    –Dr Kalokerinos, M.D. Dr Kalokerinos
    interview——-International Vaccine Newsletter June 1995
    Rotavirus vaccine:

  • FallsAngel

    Great points. I would add, what lab-created viruses are we talking about here?

  • I don’t know, not my problem to define. ;)

  • All of your responses are nothing but false vaccine propaganda lies and misleading, trash. Perhaps you need a new pro-vax shillary manual, as the one you are using is long ago warn out.

    You obviously can not even comprehend as much as that muscles and skin have arteries and veins running through them. Injecting into a muscle goes straight into the blood stream. Are you really that physiologically unaware of the anatomy of the human body?

    And vaccines certainly do bypass the natural processes of the human immune system.

    How Do Vaccines Work? Immune Mechanisms and Consequences
    http://pathwaystofamilywellness.org/component/option,com_crossjoomlaarticlemanager/Itemid,375/aid,1369/view,crossjoomlaarticlemanager/#sthash.rkJSugBv.dpuf

    Your Immune System, How It Works And How Vaccines Damage It
    http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Your-Immune-System-How-It-Works-And-How-Vaccines-Damage-It

    Anatomy and Physiology of the Immune System, Part 4
    How pharmaceuticals destroy nature
    http://jonbarron.org/article/anatomy-and-physiology-immune-system-part-4#.UwH0pvldXbY

    Understanding immunity requires more than immunology
    http://www.nature.com/ni/journal/v11/n7/full/ni0710-561.html

    How Vaccines Dysregulate The Immune System
    http://gdsajj.wordpress.com/2011/08/05/how-vaccines-dysregulate-the-immune-system/

    Vaccinations Cause Chronic Immune System Dysregulation
    http://www.liveto110.com/vaccinations-cause-chronic-immune-system-dysregulation/

    A Mouse Model for the Immune Dysregulation Subtype of Autism, (And they would still claim to that there is no way vaccines have and can cause autism? That conclusion is of course clearly preposterous.)
    http://tacanowblog.com/2012/07/23/a-mouse-model-for-the-immune-dysregulation-subtype-of-autism/

    The immune response in autism: a new frontier for autism research

    Immune aberrations consistent with a dysregulated immune response, which so far, have been reported in autistic children, include abnormal or skewed T helper cell type 1 (TH1)/TH2 cytokine profiles, decreased lymphocyte numbers, decreased T cell mitogen response, and the imbalance of serum immunoglobulin levels. In addition, autism has been linked with autoimmunity and an association with immune-based genes including human leukocyte antigen (HLA)-DRB1 and complement C4 alleles described.

    Read more:
    http://www.jleukbio.org/content/80/1/1.long

    Study links vaccine induced immune overload to autism, diabetes, obesity
    http://www.sott.net/article/279911-Study-links-vaccine-induced-immune-overload-to-autism-diabetes-obesity
    http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_30175.cfm

    Self-Organized Criticality Theory of Autoimmunity

    Conclusions/Significance
    Systemic autoimmunity appears to be the inevitable consequence of over-stimulating the host’s immune ‘system’ by repeated immunization with antigen, to the levels that surpass system’s self-organized criticality.

  • Those are sites, not cites, Hubbs.

  • Please show us the historic charts showing the occurrence of the disease dropping. Do not mention sanitation diseases (e.g. cholera) or those where the answer is ‘antibiotics’ (e.g. scarlet fever) and be sure the diseases dropped.

    As for the CDC and Big Pharma, what about every other country in the world?

  • Here’s how you do so:

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?ei=8o0gWsXWD8-ogAbDjbzAAg&q=%22how+do+i+report+child+abuse%22&oq=%22how+do+i+report+child+abuse%22&gs_l=psy-ab.3…9174.15269.0.15338.50.27.1.6.6.0.190.2164.23j3.26.0….0…1c.1.64.psy-ab..23.23.1644…0j0i67k1j0i131k1j0i22i30k1.0.Qzs_9qK8tOs

  • No, injecting into a muscle goes straight into the muscle, your failure at chemistry notwithstanidng.

  • Do you have any vaccine safety studies to show us regarding giving multiple vaccines over time, and as well in regard to the practice of giving from 5 and up to 9 or more vaccines to a small child in a single day and office visit? Of course you don’t as none have ever been done. Don’t even try to fake it.

    Do the math!!!

    How Much Money Do Pediatricians Really Make From Vaccines?

    So how much money do doctors really make from vaccines? The average American pediatrician has 1546 patients, though some pediatricians see many more. The vast majority of those patients are very young, perhaps because children transition to a family physician or stop visiting the doctor at all as they grow up. As they table above explains, Blue Cross Blue Shield pays pediatricians $400 per fully vaccinated child. If your pediatrician has just 100 fully-vaccinated patients turning 2 this year, that’s $40,000. Yes, Blue Cross Blue Shield pays your doctor a $40,000 bonus for fully vaccinating 100 patients under the age of 2. If your doctor manages to fully vaccinate 200 patients, that bonus jumps to $80,000.

    But here’s the catch: Under Blue Cross Blue Shield’s rules, pediatricians lose the whole bonus unless at least 63% of patients are fully vaccinated, and that includes the flu vaccine. So it’s not just $400 on your child’s head–it could be the whole bonus. To your doctor, your decision to vaccinate your child might be worth $40,000, or much more, depending on the size of his or her practice.

    If your pediatrician recommends that your child under the age of 2 receive the flu vaccine–even though the flu vaccine has never been studied in very young children and evidence suggests that the flu vaccine actually weakens a person’s immune system over the long term–ask yourself: Is my doctor more concerned with selling me vaccines to keep my child healthy or to send his child to private school?

    Read more:
    https://wellnessandequality.com/2016/06/20/how-much-money-do-pediatricians-really-make-from-vaccines/

    Update 4/30/2017: After Wellness & Equality published this article, Blue Cross Blue Shield locked online access to their incentive program and then removed the page altogether. Clearly this incentive program was never intended to be public knowledge and created a bit of PR issue for them. Fortunately, another website managed to save the entire BCBS incentive program booklet and has published it in entirety online… You can read it here: Blue Cross Blue Shield Physician Incentive Program

    2016-BCN-BCBSM-Incentive-Program-Booklet.pdf
    http://www.whale.to/c/2016-BCN-BCBSM-Incentive-Program-Booklet.pdf

    The Unknown Reasons Doctors Push Vaccines

    Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Blue Care Network of Michigan publishes online a shameless and bold report of how much cash they reward physicians for performing certain tests, and which apparently acts as an incentive to over-prescribe, thus inflating the costs of U.S. healthcare, which should be illegal.

    Blue Cross/Blue Shield published the 2016 Performance Recognition Program, a 28-page report indicating how medical insurance companies actually increase the costs of healthcare!

    Look what we find on the BC/BS page “Childhood Immunizations—Combo 10”!

    If MDs meet a target of 63% of eligible member patients, they will receive a payout of $400 per completed eligible member. Wow! Now you know one of the key reasons why parents are hounded to vaccinate their infants and toddlers. Gelt, pecunia, greenbacks—whatever you call M-O-N-E-Y.

    Read more:
    http://www.activistpost.com/2017/08/unknown-reasons-doctors-push-vaccines.html

    Big Pharma and Big Profits: The Multibillion Dollar Vaccine Market
    New Report says “Vaccine Market” Worth $61 Billion by 2020 (and with guess what, zero legal liability since 1987).
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/big-pharma-and-big-profits-the-multibillion-dollar-vaccine-market/5503945

  • FallsAngel

    Right. I should have addressed this to Pam Long.

  • What a load of non-factual garbage, you simply refuse to be wrong and your worn out old shillary claim simply does not even hold up to the most basic understanding of human physiology. What is there a barrier in the blood stream between the muscle and the blood stream; then what good would injections do. You likely do not comprehend as well that there exists a blood-brain barrier that is intended to keep all the toxic chemicals and vaccine contamination out of the human brain. What do you think that a blood brain barrier is for? Do you think that it is for allowing vaccine aluminum adjuvants to more easily cross over as needed? Needed for what?

    How many of these vaccine ingredients have ever been studied for safety, and as well when combined? Can you tell me? Show me the studies?

    Vaccine Ingredients and Manufacturer Information
    (alphabetical order by vaccine)
    https://vaccines.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=005206

    Study: Record Levels of Aluminum Found in Autistic Children Brain Tissue

    November 28, 2017 4:04 pm

    11-27-Aluminum_Featured_Image-300×156
    Dr. Christopher Exley—one of the world’s leading experts on aluminum toxicity—has shown that chronic intoxication with myriad forms of this “ubiquitous and omnipresent metal” is exacting a high price on human health. Dr. Exley and other aluminum experts such as molecular biologist Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic have confirmed that aluminum readily and actively traverses the blood-brain barrier to selectively accumulate in brain tissues, where it induces unwelcome changes in brain biochemistry. As Dr. Exley has noted, “There are no ‘normal’ levels of brain aluminum,” meaning that “its presence in brain tissue, at any level, could be construed as abnormal” In light of the fact that even minute amounts of aluminum can have adverse neurological consequences, Dr. Exley’s newest paper—which reports on the first-ever study of aluminum in ASD brain tissue—is groundbreaking. Published in the Journal of Trace Elements in Medicine and Biology, the paper documents some of the highest values for aluminum in human brain tissue ever recorded. Using a two-pronged study design, the researchers measured and characterized aluminum deposits in brain tissues from five to ten ASD donors, most of whom died in their teens or twenties. What the research team found was startling. The study’s quantitative arm documented “consistently high” aluminum levels representing “some of the highest values for brain aluminum content ever measured in healthy or diseased tissues.”

    Read More…
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2017/study-record-levels-of-aluminum-found-in-autistic-children-brain-tissue/

    Aluminium in brain tissue in autism

    Abstract
    Autism spectrum disorder is a neurodevelopmental disorder of unknown aetiology. It is suggested to involve both genetic susceptibility and environmental factors including in the latter environmental toxins. Human exposure to the environmental toxin aluminium has been linked, if tentatively, to autism spectrum disorder. Herein we have used transversely heated graphite furnace atomic absorption spectrometry to measure, for the first time, the aluminium content of brain tissue from donors with a diagnosis of autism. We have also used an aluminium-selective fluor to identify aluminium in brain tissue using fluorescence microscopy. The aluminium content of brain tissue in autism was consistently high. The mean (standard deviation) aluminium content across all 5 individuals for each lobe were 3.82(5.42), 2.30(2.00), 2.79(4.05) and 3.82(5.17) μg/g dry wt. for the occipital, frontal, temporal and parietal lobes respectively. These are some of the highest values for aluminium in human brain tissue yet recorded and one has to question why, for example, the aluminium content of the occipital lobe of a 15 year old boy would be 8.74 (11.59) μg/g dry wt.? Aluminium-selective fluorescence microscopy was used to identify aluminium in brain tissue in 10 donors. While aluminium was imaged associated with neurones it appeared to be present intracellularly in microglia-like cells and other inflammatory non-neuronal cells in the meninges, vasculature, grey and white matter. The pre-eminence of intracellular aluminium associated with non-neuronal cells was a standout observation in autism brain tissue and may offer clues as to both the origin of the brain aluminium as well as a putative role in autism spectrum disorder.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0946672X17308763

    Full study: (scroll down on page)
    https://ac.els-cdn.com/S0946672X17308763/1-s2.0-S0946672X17308763-main.pdf?_tid=f2be2fde-d56d-11e7-9e32-00000aab0f27&acdnat=1512005566_4d3d686804922e47e0b559810404e854

    New Study: 10x more aluminum in brains with autism

    From our friends at the Children’s Medical Safety Research Institute

    Discovery of “Shockingly High” Levels of Aluminum in Brains of Individuals with Autism Suggests Link with Aluminum-Containing Vaccines

    STAFFORDSHIRE, UNITED KINGDOM–(Marketwired – November 28, 2017) – A new study published in the Journal of Trace Elements in Medicine and Biology provides the strongest indication yet that aluminum is an etiological agent in autism spectrum disorder (ASD), according to researchers at Keele University in England.

    The study used transversely heated graphite furnace atomic absorption spectrometry to measure, for the first time, the aluminum content of brain tissue from five donors who had died with diagnoses of ASD. The results showed the donors to have had some of the highest values of aluminum yet measured in human brain tissue.

    The mean (standard deviation) aluminum content across all five individuals for each lobe were 3.82(5.42), 2.30(2.00), 2.79(4.05) and 3.82(5.17) mg/g dry wt. for the occipital, frontal, temporal and parietal lobes respectively. Previous measurements of 60 brains from humans not diagnosed with ASD showed an average content of 1 mg/g dry wt. of brain tissue.

    “One has to wonder why aluminum in the occipital lobe of a 15-year-old boy with autism would be a value that is at least 10 times higher than what might be considered acceptable for an elderly adult?” said Christopher Exley PhD, Professor in Bioinorganic Chemistry and author of the study. Another ground-breaking study by Exley and his team, published earlier in the year, identified similarly high levels of aluminum in the brains of individuals who died of familial Alzheimer’s disease.

    While the aluminum content of each of the five brains was extraordinarily high, it was the location of the aluminum in the brain tissue that served as the standout observation. The majority of aluminum was identified inside non-neuronal cells including microglia and astrocytes. Aluminum was also found in lymphocytes in the meninges and in similar inflammatory cells in the vasculature. According to the researchers, there was clear evidence of inflammatory cells heavily loaded with aluminum entering the brain via the meningeal membranes and the blood-brain-barrier.

    Aluminum-selective fluorescence microscopy was used to identify aluminum in the brain tissue of 10 donors. The results strongly suggest that aluminum is entering the brain in ASD via pro-inflammatory cells which have become loaded up with aluminum in the blood and/or lymph, much as has been demonstrated for monocytes at injection sites for vaccines including aluminum adjuvants.

    The fact that the majority of aluminum found in brain tissues in ASD was intracellular and associated with non-neuronal cells is, at least for now, unique to ASD and may begin to explain why young adolescents had so much aluminum in their brains.

    “The research does not infer that Al is a cause of autism, “said Exley, who also authored Human Exposure to Aluminum. “But these very high concentrations of a neurotoxin in brain tissue are not going to be benign and will contribute to neurodegeneration in affected tissues.”

    This study was funded by the Children’s Medical Safety Research Institute, a 502(c)3 nonprofit organization dedicated to funding independent research into the causal factors behind today’s epidemic of childhood chronic illness and disability.

    Access to the full article here:
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0946672X17308763

    November 28, 2017 07:00 ET
    Discovery of “Shockingly High” Levels of Aluminum in Brains of Individuals with Autism Suggests Link with Aluminum-Containing Vaccines
    http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/discovery-shockingly-high-levels-aluminum-brains-individuals-with-autism-suggests-link-2241940.htm

    Big Pharma and Big Profits: The Multibillion Dollar Vaccine Market – New Report says “Vaccine Market” Worth $61 Billion by 2020
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/big-pharma-and-big-profits-the-multibillion-dollar-vaccine-market/5503945

    Children’s Medical Safety Research Institute,

    Global study research
    http://www.cmsri.org/global-research/

    CMSRI-funded Research
    http://www.cmsri.org/cmsri-funded-research/

    J Inorg Biochem. 2011 Nov;105(11):1489-99. doi: 10.1016/j.jinorgbio.2011.08.008. Epub 2011 Aug 23.
    Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism?
    Tomljenovic L1, Shaw CA.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22099159

    Aluminum?s Role in CNS-immune System Interactions leading to Neurological Disorders
    https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/aluminums-role-in-cnsimmune-system-interactions-leading-to-neurological-disorders-14822-1745-7580-9-069.php?aid=20403

    Immunol Res. 2013 Jul;56(2-3):304-16. doi: 10.1007/s12026-013-8403-1.
    Aluminum in the central nervous system (CNS): toxicity in humans and animals, vaccine adjuvants, and autoimmunity.
    Shaw CA1, Tomljenovic L.

    Abstract
    We have examined the neurotoxicity of aluminum in humans and animals under various conditions, following different routes of administration, and provide an overview of the various associated disease states. The literature demonstrates clearly negative impacts of aluminum on the nervous system across the age span. In adults, aluminum exposure can lead to apparently age-related neurological deficits resembling Alzheimer’s and has been linked to this disease and to the Guamanian variant, ALS-PDC. Similar outcomes have been found in animal models. In addition, injection of aluminum adjuvants in an attempt to model Gulf War syndrome and associated neurological deficits leads to an ALS phenotype in young male mice. In young children, a highly significant correlation exists between the number of pediatric aluminum-adjuvanted vaccines administered and the rate of autism spectrum disorders. Many of the features of aluminum-induced neurotoxicity may arise, in part, from autoimmune reactions, as part of the ASIA syndrome.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23609067

    Human Papilloma Virus Vaccine and Primary Ovarian Failure:
    Another Facet of the Autoimmune/Inflammatory Syndrome
    Induced by Adjuvants
    http://www.luontaisnetti.fi/hpv/3%20cases%20of%20Primary%20Ovarian%20Failure%20following%20HPVvaccination,%20Am%20J%20Reproductive%20Immunol%202013.pdf

  • CPS has become nothing but very corrupt and perverted organization and it is NOT serving the best interests of child and nor the parents. They have also become the right arm of the pro-vaccine side in wrongfully through the legal system taking children from parents that refuse the vaccine toxic injected poison.

    Vaccine Refusal Increasingly Being Linked to Medical Kidnapping – Violation of Civil Rights
    November 29, 2017

    Michigans-Systematic-Inquisition-of-Parents-Over-Religious-Objection-to-Vaccines-Leads-to-Federal-Lawsuit-by-Thomas-More
    Author and research scientist Dr. James Lyons-Weiler, PhD, is concerned about doctors and Child Protective Services overruling parents who choose not to vaccinate. In a video livestreamed on the Facebook VAXXED page on the evening of Tuesday, November 28, 2017, he said: “In the United States, there is a new rash of what can only be called Medical Kidnap.” He goes on to state: “When the government acts as though they have the authority to take rights away, that’s when people need to stand up. That’s when the people, especially in the United States, have always recognized that we need to stand up. And I can’t imagine a right that is more sacred to a mom than the bonding moments that occur right after birth.” The single most damaging practice in the events surrounding childbirth is the separation of mother and baby, yet the practice is occurring with more and more frequency as hospitals threaten parents with the removal of the child for refusal to vaccinate.

    Read More…
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2017/vaccine-refusal-increasingly-being-linked-to-medical-kidnapping-violations-of-civil-rights/

    Medical Kidnap (read all the personal account stories of falsely assumed child protective, corruption)
    https://medicalkidnap.com/

  • How much real and truth information would these shills need put in front of them to stop believing that the pharma mislead education of so called health care practitioner’s, is not for the most part about any real health care at all, and that in the bigger picture? It is largely only attempted management of symptoms. They have no real understanding of actual physiologically based health care. If they did, they would need to stop everything they are doing. Rockefeller created big pharma is not going to stop their madness and as there are to many billions to be made.

    Origins of Medical Industry Corruption
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NheKUW6kGuY&t=2s

    Allopathic Reductionism

    Dr. Glidden explains the difference between what medicine practice our doctors really follow, and how their training is not near as superior to wholistic medicine practices.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocixlweg7NY&feature=youtu.be

    MEDICINE KILLS MILLIONS (direct data and statistics)
    http://medicinekillsmillions.com/

    Conventional Medicine is the Leading Cause of Death
    https://draxe.com/conventional-medicine-is-the-leading-cause-of-death/

    PHARMA DEATH CLOCK

    TOTAL DEATHS IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE JANUARY 1, 2000…

    BIG PHARMA’S CHEMICAL WARFARE ON HUMANITY DWARFS THE NUMBER OF VICTIMS KILLED BY ALL WORLD WARS AND ACTS OF TERRORISM COMBINED…

    While drug companies profit billions, people are dying by the millions.

    http://pharmadeathclock.com/

    These 13 Corporations Are “Big Pharma”: Their History, Crimes, and Products
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHSRwhceBxk

    Our Stories
    SSRI Stories is a collection of over 6,000 stories that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals) in which prescription drugs were mentioned and in which the drugs may be linked to a variety of adverse outcomes including violence.

    https://ssristories.org/

    Western Medicine is Rockefeller Medicine – All The Way
    http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/western-medicine-rockefeller-medicine/

    Benjamin Rush
    U.S. Founding Father, Signer of The Declaration of Independence
    (1746-1813)

    Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of Men and deny equal privileges to others; the Constitution of the Republic should make a Special privilege for medical freedoms as well as religious freedom.

    http://www.all-creatures.org/quotes/rush_benjamin.html

    Generation SICK: The Power, Politics and Propaganda Behind America’s Health Crisis Paperback – January 10, 2016
    by Dr. Vic Naumov (Author)
    https://www.amazon.com/Generation-SICK-Politics-Propaganda-Americas/dp/0996960406

    Pharmacopoeia …the sorceries of Babylon
    https://discernthetime.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/pharmaceuticals-the-sorceries-of-babylon/

    PHARMACEUTICALS – THE SORCERIES OF BABYLON
    http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/2014/01/pharmaceuticals-sorceries-of-babylon.html

  • I have no issues admitting when I’m wrong, Lowell. This is just not one of those times. There is a difference between straight into the bloodstream and reaches the bloodstream, that’s all.

  • Which study are you referring to? You say that about any study that has been put in front of you and no matter how obviously you are proven wrong in your ascertains.

    [And as you know, non-polio AFP isn’t due to OPV.] Prove it!!!

    [We have NP-AFP in the US. We don’t use OPV.] We as well have massive use of multiple vaccines in the US. Again, prove it is not related.

    Your problem is that you refuse all information but pro-vax information and all you can ever do is re-parrot that same false vaccine propaganda.

    Ep 60- Mysterious Polio-like Illness Solved! [My Incredible Opinion]
    by Forrest Maready
    Published on Nov 4, 2016
    The cause of the mysterious polio-like illness going around the Western parts of the United States has been solved. But not by me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKNVyjgQyjY

    Acute Flaccid Myelitis and Routine Childhood Vaccinations: This is Nothing New
    http://vaxtruth.org/2016/11/acute-flaccid-myelitis-and-routine-childhood-vaccinations-this-is-nothing-new/

    Study: Polio vaccine campaign in India has caused 12-fold increase in deadly paralysis condition
    http://www.naturalnews.com/035588_polio_vaccine_India_paralysis.html

    Some Facts About Polio That The CDC Wishes You Didn’t Know
    http://www.march-against-monsanto.com/some-facts-about-polio-that-the-cdc-wishes-you-didnt-know/

    The Polio Vaccine Doesn’t Stop Polio
    https://leviquackenboss.wordpress.com/2016/03/04/the-polio-vaccine-doesnt-stop-polio/

  • Forget it, he refuses any form of education. If he can’t make his ignorance fly with the falsely accused and stereo-typical conspiracy theorist accusation, then he has nothing at all.

  • Okay,let’s use your 1:50 figure and see if you understand maths,

    3,988,000 children born in the US each year x 0.9 (over 90% of U.S. children are vaccinated) = 3,589,200 vaccinated children per annual cohort.

    3,589,200 vaccinated children per annual cohort divided by 50 (1 in 50 U.S. children develop autism) = 71, 784 (vaccinated children with autism per annual cohort)

    71, 784 x 0.8 (in 80% of autistic children, parents first notice signs at 6 – 24 months) = 57,427.2 (vaccinated children for whom parents first noticed signs between 6-24 months).

    57,427 (vaccinated children for whom parents first noticed signs between 6-24 months) divided by 548 (days between age 6 and 24 months) = 104. 79 and a whole bunch of other numbers.

    So… 104 vaccinated children who first start showing signs of autism on any given day.

    Children receive vaccines on at least 2 days between ages 6 and 24 months, Therefore even if vaccines do not cause autism , we still expect parents to first notice the signs of autism in 208 children within 24 hours of being vaccinated.

    @disqus_Vqd9OqZVm7:disqus, would you kindly finish this with the week and within 30 days figures using the 1:50 figures?

  • You did not answer my questions, and I want a answer directly; not just another refusal to be wrong. No one said that vaccines were directly given in an artery or vein. I said the muscle is full of arteries and veins and that makes anything injected directly flow throughout the body including the brain. So you are arguing about nothing just for the sake of falsely creating an argument, and in which you don’t even have an argument. Typical shill.

    Here s more importantly what vaccines create. Give me any study that you can find that shows that this is not happening? How about a study where any of it has ever been studied at all?

    Dr. Andrew Moulden’s Tolerance Lost: Part 1 – “The Problem”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re8UI8aCLpM

    Short form of the information.
    Dr. Andrew Moulden: Learning to Identify Vaccine Damage
    https://healthimpactnews.com/2015/dr-andrew-moulden-learning-to-identify-vaccine-damage/

    Tolerance Lost Vol 1/3 – 1of16 – Moulden
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZXM-TKvLN8

  • I’ll provide that as soon as you provide evidence I’m being paid and remember you made the claim with the info you already have, support it with the evidence you already have.

  • What is your evidence that anything in vaccines is toxic at exposure levels achievable by routine childhood vaccination?

  • Real accounts of what actually took place recorded at the time by people who lived at the time, have a much higher credibility level than anything at the CDC and WHO. But then, what would you ever know about that as you have never accepted any of it for any consideration. It is you that has never done the proper independent and unbiased research. All you can do is re-parrot the long known, false vaccine propaganda.

  • Based on what? Basic writing and reading comprehension is important.

    And this does not even factor in the profits from attempting to diagnose and treat all the chronic health problems and disorders caused by all the existing vaccines given today.

    Big Pharma and Big Profits: The Multibillion Dollar Vaccine Market
    New Report says “Vaccine Market” Worth $61 Billion by 2020
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/big-pharma-and-big-profits-the-multibillion-dollar-vaccine-market/5503945

    Dr. Andrew Moulden’s Tolerance Lost: Part 1 – “The Problem”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re8UI8aCLpM

  • Here is a better question. Where is your evidence that none of the vaccine ingredients are toxic and harmful to human health? Have you even seen the long list of vaccine ingredients? Where are the studies? Paul Offit still as well thinks that ingestion is the same thing as injection, and he must mindlessly insist on that as no real safety studies have ever been done.

    Do you even comprehend the terms, physiologically based health care, and in regard to its understanding? MD’s actually understand nothing in regard to that. The whole thing is a false illusion, as all they understand is pharmaceuticals prescribing, under an insurance code. As the standard big pharma based medical model situation has become larger and more so called advanced; has the over-all public health become better, or far worse? The RIGHT answer is, far worse. In your best comprehension mode, why do you think that is happening? I will tell you why; because the entire natural health medical model was hijacked by Flexner and the Rockefeller Foundation now almost 100 years ago, in favor of big pharma that came straight out of Nazi Germany, starting with Bayer Pharmaceuticals. Learn the real history.

    Which of these toxic ingredients in vaccines has ever been tested for injected safety, and as well when combined? Which ones have shown an acceptable human health safety profile. And these lists as well do not include the serious, known existing, and yet unresolved issue of vaccine contamination.

    Vaccine Ingredients and Manufacturer Information
    (alphabetical order by vaccine)
    https://vaccines.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=005206

  • AK

    Do yourself a favor and download the free vacine safety report that is attached at the top of this article. If after reading the report you still can’t acknowledge how the medical establishment is using fraudulent methodology to manipulate data to their advantage and to help their cause then you clearly have no interest in truth.

  • Typical shill, and you are all the same, and in using the same false excuses for your failure to reply to direct questions, and the put forth information. You are clearly a shill and I could care less who pays you or doesn’t pay you; nor do I care who you work for or what field you may or may not work in. I am not here to prove the obvious and in which that information you will never give up, and any more than your real identity. All of you are nothing but cowards.

  • AK

    I would like to see the study that claims that the rate of autism in unvaccinated children is the same as in vaccinated children.
    Don’t put words in my mouth. I never said that we didn’t go to the moon, I said that a NASA scientist recently claimed that we no longer have the ability to go to the moon today, which is rather strange and such admissions only fuel the conspiracies.
    9/11 being an inside job is a no brainer for anyone with an IQ greater than that of a grapefruit. More than half of Americans don’t believe the official story and outside of this country that percentage is far higher.

  • Here is a better question, so called Dr Wegner; again, why are you using the fake identity of a deceased doctor, and why are you faking . . . THAT? If you were any real doctor, why would you not give your own name; as you know, being that is considered as being so (falsely) prestigious? So given that, then what level of credibility should the readers here give you as to anything at all that you reply post with?

    You know that people like you always claim to be all about the science, in regard to vaccines. So then lets start with you responding to this below article.

    Do you even comprehend the meaning of the term, “corruption”? How about the terms, “large scale, for profit, corruption”?

    The Corruption of Science: Who Funds Vaccine Safety Studies?
    November 26, 2017

    The focus of this article is how the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the vaccine industry control vaccine safety assessments, control the science of vaccines and control the scientific and mass channels of information about vaccines. These primary stakeholders gained control by establishing an elaborate web of collaborating institutional partnerships which they fund. The collaborating institutional stakeholders include: the American Academy of Pediatrics, the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunization (JCVI, UK), the World Health Organization (WHO -Global Advisory Committee on Vaccine Safety (GACVS)), the European Medicines Agency (EMA), the European Centre for Disease Prevention & Control (ECDPC), the Brighton Collaboration and the Brighton Collaboration Foundation, the Cochrane Collaboration, the Institute of Medicine, the Council for International Organizations of Medical Sciences (CIOMS), the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI) which is bankrolled by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and the World Bank and others. All of these institutions became de facto stakeholders in promoting vaccination policies while presenting themselves as independent authoritative sources of information about vaccine safety.

    Read More…
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2017/the-corruption-of-science-who-funds-vaccine-safety-studies/

  • Hubbs, you didn’t need it to make the claim so you don’t need it to support it.

    Let me know when you can provide evidence I’m being paid.

  • What percentage of the worlds population was ever vaccinated for small pox? The estimate has been said to be 10%. What figure do you have? Where was the existing vaccine derived, herd immunity. All actual and early accounts written at the time tell a story of majorly increased cases of small pox after their mandatory vaccination drives.

    Dr. Creighton unmasked medicine man Jenner!!
    http://www.reformation.org/charles-creighton.html

    A short history of Smallpox Vaccine
    V. Thirty Years of Rapidly Decreasing Vaccination in Leicester, and its Teachings. (The real history)
    http://www.vaclib.org/legal/MTstate/smallpox.pdf

    Compulsory Vaccination Killed More Than Smallpox
    http://nocompulsoryvaccination.com/2014/03/08/compulsory-vaccination-killed-more-than-smallpox/

    The Decline of Smallpox in Great Britain – Vaccination in Doubt. It includes a critique of Edward Jenner’s book and theories.
    http://www.medicinekillsmillions.com/articles/truth-about-decline-of-the-infectious-diseases.html

    The polio vaccine: a critical assessment of its arcane history, efficacy, and long-term health-related consequences
    http://www.thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf

    Smallpox Vaccine: Origins of Vaccine Madness
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2010/02/26/smallpox-vaccine-origins-of-vaccine-madness/

    Vaccination: A Mythical History ~ by Roman Bystrianyk and Suzanne Humphries MD
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2013/08/27/vaccination-a-mythical-history-by-roman-bystrianyk-and-suzanne-humphries-md/#sthash.03Vj2X4E.dpuf

    Dr. A.R. Campbell, M.D. — Discoverer of the Cause of Smallpox.
    http://www.reformation.org/campbell.html

    Résumé of Experiments on Variola.
    By CHARLES A. R. CAMPBELL, M. D.
    http://www.reformation.org/variola.html

    “Dr Campbell discovered smallpox was caused by the bite of a bedbug..and the degree of severity of the disease was directly proportional to the cachexia (general ill health and malnutrition) of the patient…He spoke of “scorbutic cachexia” relating it to scurvy, “the disease caused by lack of green food” and said “the removal of this perversion of nutrition will so mitigate the virulence of this malady as positively to prevent the pitting or pocking of smallpox.” (Immunization p54. Bacteria Inc by Cash Asher 1949)——Walene James:
    http://www.whale.to/a/fear1.html
    http://www.whale.to/v/asher3.html

    A Summary of the Proofs That Vaccination Does Not Prevent Small-pox but Really Increases It (S616: 1904)
    http://www.wku.edu/%7Esmithch/wallace/S616.htm

    Horrors of vaccination exposed and illustrated, petition to the President to abolish compulsary vaccination in the Army and the Navy, 1920
    https://archive.org/stream/39002086340891.med.yale.edu#page/n6/mode/1up

    Smallpox was already beaten before mass vaccination by the invention of electricity and the washing machine.

    A century ago Dr. A.R. Campbell, showed that smallpox was not contagious and was caused by the bedbug or Cimex Lectularius. His words echo down the years with an unfamiliar ethical tone. Nominated for a Nobel Prize by the State Legislature for his work on malaria, Dr. Campbell was that rare commodity today: a humanitarian impelled by all his instincts to put people before profit. His neglected discoveries betray the depths of deception in our current medical system that places profit firmly to the fore. Read it and weep.
    http://breakfornews.com/sickofdoctors/articles/smallpox.htm

    Exclusive: mind-boggling FDA confession about the smallpox vaccine
    https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/08/30/exclusive-mind-boggling-fda-confession-about-the-smallpox-vaccine/

    Small Pox
    http://www.herballegacy.com/Smallpox.html

    Congressional Record, Washington, D C.
    Dr. William Howard Hay Addresses the Medical Freedom Society
    June 25, 1937
    http://www.whale.to/v/hay1.html

    Dr. William Howard Hay (1866-1940)
    http://www.whale.to/a/hay_h.html

    “As a matter of fact, perhaps it is safe to say that not more than 10 per cent of the people ever would take smallpox if sleeping in the same bed with an infected smallpox victim.”–Dr Hay
    http://www.whale.to/vaccines/hay.html

    “For years Dr. Matthew J. Rodermund, MD of Wisconsin, USA, offered $10,000 to anyone who could prove scientifically that smallpox is contagious. Nobody ever claimed the money. Dr Charles A.A. Campbell, MD of San Antonio, USA, who was for years in charge of an isolation hospital made exhaustive experiments in order to demonstrate that smallpox is contagious, but found that this is not the case.”–Keki Sidhwa ND http://www.whale.to/vaccines/smallpox8.html

    “Dr Rodermund, a physician in the state of Wisconscin, created a sensation by smearing his body with the exudate of smallpox sores in order to demonstrate to his medical colleagues that a healthy body could not be infected with the disease. He was arrested and quaratined in jail, but not before he had come into contact with many people. Not a single case of smallpox developed through this “exposure”….I have …handled intimately thousands of cases of contagious diseases, and I do not remember a single instance where any of us was the least affected by such contact.”—Henry Lindlahr MD (Philosophy of Natural Therapeutics p 39). http://www.whale.to/vaccine/lindlahr.html

    Smallpox Vaccine: Origins of Vaccine Madness
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2010/02/26/smallpox-vaccine-origins-of-vaccine-madness/

    Smallpox Eradication – One of History’s Biggest Lies & How Vaccination Did Not Eradicate Smallpox
    https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/smallpox-eradication-one-of-historys-biggest-lies-how-vaccination-did-not-eradicate-smallpox/

    Was Smallpox Vaccine Really A Great Success?
    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/01/02/was-smallpox-vaccine-really-a-great-success.aspx

    The Truth about Smallpox — From 1924 Book
    http://www.vaclib.org/basic/1924disease.htm

    SMALLPOX & VACCINATION
    fact and fantasy
    http://www.london77truth.com/BAVA/Smallpox.htm

    VACCINATION
    THE HIDDEN FACTS
    http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020132sinclair/vaccinaion.htm

    Failure Of The Continued Polio Vaccine Campaign, (and with the real historical small pox vaccine information, as recorded by those that actually lived at the time)
    http://www.vacfacts.info/failure-of-the-continued-polio-vaccine-campaign.html

    1987: WHO Admits Its Smallpox Vaccine Caused AIDS – WHO Omits That It Requested The Virus
    http://exopolitics.blogs.com/ebolagate/2014/11/1987-who-admits-smallpox-vaccine-caused-aids-who-omits-that-it-requested-it.html

    STATISTICAL HISTORY OF VACCINATION
    http://rawfed.com/vax/stats.html

    HISTORY OF VACCINES, PART ONE
    http://rawfed.com/vax/history.html

    Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries Of Official Statistics
    https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

    Regarding polio, the CDC states that about 72 out of 100 will not have any visible symptoms. About 1 out of 4 people with poliovirus infection will have flu-like symptoms.

    So with the exception of a few that have more serious symptoms there were actually very few over-all that ended up in an iron lung, and/or with permanent paralysis, and as much as that get vaccinated fear mongering image was drummed up.

    So then what is to say that it was not actually natural immunity that eradicated polio, and not the SV40 cancer and tumor causing, contaminated vaccine? That as well if polio cases were already in significant decline before the vaccine was in use. You know the CDC and WHO would never admit to that said decline, and that they would and did obviously concoct an opposite story.

    CDC Admits 98 Million Americans Were Given Cancer Virus Via The Polio Shot
    http://www.vaccines.news/2015-09-23-cdc-admits-98-million-americans-were-given-cancer-virus-via-the-polio-shot.html

    CDC ‘Disappears’ Page Linking Polio Vaccines To Cancer-Causing Viruses
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/cdc-disappears%E2%80%99-page-linking-polio-vaccines-cancer-causing-viruses1

    The original CDC pages stated above, now deleted from the CDC site.

    Cancer, Simian Virus 40 (SV40), and Polio Vaccine Fact Sheet
    https://web.archive.org/web/20110307094146/http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/updates/archive/polio_and_cancer_factsheet.htm

    Frequently Asked Questions about Cancer, Simian Virus 40 (SV40), and Polio Vaccine
    https://web.archive.org/web/20100308102630/http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/updates/archive/polio_and_cancer.htm

    Dr. Maurice Hilleman Former Merck Vaccine Chief Confesses Cancer & other Viruses is found in Vaccines, (and they laugh about it?)
    http://youtu.be/vgBBwOnmy3w

    The polio vaccine: a critical assessment of its arcane history, efficacy,
    and long-term health-related consequences

    Abstract

    Polio (poliomyelitis) is a potentially dangerous viral ailment. To combat this disease, researchers developed two polio vaccines (inactivated and live)
    grown in cultures made from monkey kidneys. Beginning in the 1950s, these vaccines were administered to millions of people in the United States and
    throughout the world. Officially, the polio vaccine is considered safe and effective, and has been credited with singularly reducing the incidence of this
    disease. These tenets are not supported by the data.

    A cancer-causing monkey virus–SV-40–was discovered in polio vaccines administered to millions of people. SV-40 has been found in brain tumors,
    bone cancers, lung cancers and leukemia. SV-40 is transmitted through sexual intercourse, and from mother to child in the womb. Monkeys that were used
    to make polio vaccines were infected with simian immunodeficiency virus (SIV), a virus closely related to human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), the
    infectious agent associated with AIDS. Some researchers question whether HIVs may simply be SIVs “residing in and adapting to a human host.” Polio
    vaccines also contain calf serum, glycerol and other parts of the cow that may have been infected with bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), or mad cow disease, a fatal brain-wasting ailment that some researchers link to Cruetzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD), its human equivalent.

    Current disease reduction techniques that emphasize short-term gains over long-term health consequences need to be reevaluated and discontinued
    while new and safer health paradigms are researched and implemented.

    Read much more:
    http://www.thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf

    THE POISONED NEEDLE
    Suppressed Facts About Vaccination
    By Eleanor McBean, 1957
    http://www.1796kotok.com/pdfs/The-Poisoned-Needle.pdf

    The Present Status of Polio Vaccines, (hear it described here how the diagnosis of polio was changed after development of the vaccine, this is obvious vaccine fraud)
    http://www.greatmothersquestioningvaccines.com/uploads/2/8/8/8/2888885/ratner_1960.pdf

    Polio Wasn’t Vanquished, It Was Redefined
    http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2015/07/polio-wasnt-vanquished-it-was-redefined/

    The Age of Polio: How an Old Virus and New Toxins Triggered a Man-Made Epidemic
    By Dan Olmsted and Mark Blaxill
    http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/09/the-age-of-polio-how-an-old-virus-and-new-toxins-triggered-a-man-made-epidemic-1.html

    Pesticides and Polio: A Critique of Scientific Literature
    Biskind’s Warnings – DDT vs Polio
    http://www.westonaprice.org/environmental-toxins/pesticides-and-polio

    Doctors Change Names of Diseases When Vaccines Do Not Work
    http://vactruth.com/2012/04/25/change-names-of-diseases/

    Polio-like” Cluster in California Has Eerie Echoes
    By Dan Olmsted
    http://www.ageofautism.com/2014/02/polio-like-cluster-in-california-has-eerie-echoes.html

    India Still Reporting Cases of Polio-like Acute Flaccid Paralysis
    http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2015/07/india-still-reporting-cases-of-polio-like-acute-flaccid-paralysis/

    SV-40 Deadly Cure
    http://www.viewzone.com/sv40x.html

    Simian virus 40 DNA found in US children:
    http://www.dreddyclinic.com/findinformation/ww/dis_con_article_ww/wilms_tumor_1.htm

    Simian Virus 40 Sequences in Human Lymphoblastoid B-Cell Lines:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC140833/

    Types of SV40 Associated Cancers:
    http://www.sv40foundation.org/Types.html

    Simian virus 40 is present in most United States human
    mesotheliomas, but it is rarely present in non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10619511

    Simian virus in polio shots tied to cancer / Two studies support widely disputed theory
    http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/Simian-virus-in-polio-shots-tied-to-cancer-Two-2865997.php

    Some oral poliovirus vaccines were contaminated with infectious SV40 after 1961.
    http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/65/22/10273.long

    Suzanne Humphries, MD, speaking on Polio at the Association of Natural Health Conference, (the real truth as to where polio went, and its disappearance was clearly not due to the vaccine)
    http://tv.greenmedinfo.com/suzanne-humphries-md-speaking-on-polio-at-the-association-of-natural-health-conference/

    Simian virus 40 in humans

    Fernanda Martini1, Alfredo Corallini2, Veronica Balatti1, Silvia Sabbioni2, Cecilia Pancaldi1 and Mauro Tognon1*

    Corresponding author: Mauro Tognon

    Author Affiliations

    1 Department of Morphology and Embryology, Section of Cell Biology and Molecular Genetics, School of Medicine, and Center of Biotechnology, University of Ferrara, Via Fossato di Mortara, 64/B. 44100 Ferrara, Italy

    2 Department of Experimental and Diagnostic Medicine, Section of Microbiology, University of Ferrara, Via Luigi Borsari, 46. 44100 Ferrara, Italy

    Excerpted:

    A source of human exposure to SV40 occurred between 1955 and 1963, when inactivated and live anti-polio vaccines, prepared from polioviruses grown in naturally SV40-infected simian cell cultures, were administered to hundreds of millions of people in the United States, Canada, Europe, Asia and Africa [63]. Soon it was shown that children vaccinated with contaminated oral polio vaccines (OPV) shed infectious SV40 in stools for at least 5 weeks after vaccination [64]. However, some children, who received the same OPV, did not develop neutralizing antibodies even though they may have received large doses of live SV40, compared with the potentially inactivated SV40 in inactivated polio vaccine (IPV). Further, SV40 human contamination occurred in experimental infection with live respiratory syncytial virus to adult volunteers and a neutralizing antibody response in about two thirds of the volunteers was shown [65]. Inactivated vaccines against adenoviruses [66] and hepatitis A [67] virus also exposed humans to SV40, although the amount of infectious SV40 was almost certainly lower then that administered with OPV or live respiratory syncytial virus.

    Additional serologic studies reported a SV40 seropositivity in individuals with no history of immunization with contaminated IPV or other possible route of SV40 infection [69-72]. Shah et al., [72]

    These studies suggest that humans may become infected by SV40 independently from poliovirus vaccine exposure. However, most of these early serologic studies were carried out before the discovery of the two human polyomaviruses, BK and JC, which are close related to SV40 and are ubiquitous in human populations. It is possible that the early serologic evidence of SV40 antibody detection in human sera represents some degree of cross reactivity with antibodies against the highly related BK and JC viruses [73-75].

    To date, the prevalence of SV40 infections in humans is not known. Recent studies, based on PCR and serological techniques, indicate that SV40 infection occurs both in children and adults. (i) SV40 DNA sequences have been detected in normal and neoplastic tissues of people either too young (1 to 30 years) or too old (60 to 85 years) to have been vaccinated with SV40-contaminated anti-polio vaccines [19,33,76-81]. This finding may also explain the lack of difference in cancer incidence between individuals vaccinated with SV40-contaminated and SV40-free anti-polio vaccines [82]. (ii) SV40 sequences and Tag were detected in blood and sperm specimens from normal individuals and oncologic patients [80,81,83-88] and in lymphoblastoid cells [32]. These results suggest that (peripheral blood mononuclear cells) PBMCs, could be a reservoir and vehicle of SV40 spreading in the tissues of the host and among the individuals. (iii) SV40 sequences were found in urine and stoole samples, from children and adults [84,89,90], indicating that the haematic, sexual and orofecal routes of transmission are likely to be responsible for SV40 horizontal infection in humans.

    http://www.infectagentscancer.com/content/2/1/13

    Advances in Virus Research, Volume 50

    Pages 83 and 84, read. (Also see the study titled, Simian virus 40 in humans, below on this page)

    Excerpted:

    Moreover, blood and sperm fluid may represent important means for spreading of SV40 in humans.

    Indeed in these investigations, (Martini etal;, 1995,1996) 61% of the neoplastic patients positive for SV 40 sequences were of an age excluding exposure to SV 40-contaminated polio vaccines, suggesting contagious transmission of SV 40 by horizontal infection.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=PfO7D8ZoSMkC&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=sv40+is+contagious&source=bl&ots=AlaWsAkp95&sig=RnycQFX2ucD-3zybHQ07FAIeJYk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=kZLfT5_mA4qc2QXKz6jtCA&ved=0CFoQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=sv40%20is%20contagious&f=false

    Infectious Agents and Cancer

    Review Open Access

    Simian virus 40 in humans

    Abstract

    Simian virus 40 (SV40) is a monkey virus that was administered to human populations by contaminated vaccines which were produced in SV40 naturally infected monkey cells.

    Recent molecular biology and epidemiological studies suggest that SV40 may be contagiously transmitted in humans by horizontal infection, independently from the earlier administration of SV40-contaminated vaccines.

    SV40 footprints in humans have been found associated at high prevalence with specific tumor types such as brain and bone tumors, mesotheliomas and lymphomas and with kidney diseases, and at lower prevalence in blood samples from healthy donors.

    Contrasting reports appeared in the literature on the circulation of SV40 in humans by contagious transmission and its association, as a possible etiologic cofactor, with specific human tumors. As a consequence of the conflicting results, a considerable debate has developed in the scientific community. In the present review we consider the main results obtained by different groups investigating SV40 sequences in human tumors and in blood specimens, the putative role of SV40 in the onset/progression of specific human tumors, and comment on the hypotheses arising from these data.

    http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1750-9378-2-13.pdf

    Ep 60- Mysterious Polio-like Illness Solved!
    by Forrest Maready, Published on Nov 4, 2016

    The cause of the mysterious polio-like illness going around the Western parts of the United States has been solved. But not by me.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKNVyjgQyjY

  • Brian

    Lol. Are you referring to the “report” by Neil Miller, the loon who claims to talk to aliens from outer space?

    Is that the kind of reliable sources you get your information from?

  • Brian

    Sure. The math is straightforward. Each year it’s about 1500 within a week, or 6500 within a month.

    If anti-vaxxers really want to use all these stories as evidence of any kind, they’ll have to show that the numbers beyond the background rate. For example, you’d have to show something like:

    For a twenty year time span.
    -Over 30,000 parents who saw their parents develop autism within a week of vaccination.
    -It must not be more than a week, or the number required would be much higher.
    -All of these reports are within the USA (if including other countries, the number required would be much larger)
    -The reports should be verified.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Not here to prove negatives Lowell.

    And if you don’t know what study I’m talking about it’s just further proof you have no clue what you copy/paste.

  • Again, more deflection and false excuses in your failure to directly answer any questions put to you, and that you know you can not answer. If you can’t respond to the vaccine issues you are faced with here, then stop replying here at all. And it doesn’t matter who made the claim, as anyone can respond on this vactruth reply forum. I clearly corrected your nonsense, and you know it. You shills operate all alike and in exactly the same way. Using the same old worn out avoidance, deflection, and diversion tactics, just a different day.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Lowell if I worked in a meat processing plant I wouldn’t worry about antivaxxers calling my place of work to complain about me.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    I’ll be sure to do that Ron.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Look out Lowell the little black helicopters are coming.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    And aliens are among us right?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Just keep lying Lowell.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Lowell you just keep posting the same lies article after article. It doesn’t matter how much of an idiot you looked like the last 12 times.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Ann seriously this isn’t your strong point.

  • Typical shill-twisted response; and nothing ever changes. So you can not support or defend your claims and you know it, and that here clearly is not involving any need to prove a negative. Again you make your fanciful and false claims about posted studies, that you have either never read, or you simply continue to make irrelevant accusations, misinform, and lie about what is there.

    And as for proving a so called negative, you should learn something here.

    You Can Prove a Negative
    Can’t prove a negative? Sure you can!
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/believing-bull/201109/you-can-prove-negative

  • AK

    Yes, one is a milder form of brain damage caused by vaccines while the other is a more severe kind of brain damage caused by vaccines.

  • Brian

    I would like to see the study that claims that the rate of autism in unvaccinated children is the same as in vaccinated children.

    There’s tons of studies!
    Here’s a very large one. Happy reading!

    I said that a NASA scientist recently claimed that we no longer have the ability to go to the moon today

    Are you referring to the Astronaut Don Pettit, who throughout his career has given countless lectures on the moon and space exploration, but who made one practical comment that we don’t have Saturn V factories anymore, etc., and that we’d have to rebuild those to go back. It’s not complicated. If you think this is evidence of a conspiracy, that says a lot about you.

    9/11 being an inside job is a no brainer for anyone with an IQ greater than that of a grapefruit.

    Lol. Are you claiming that a jetliner crashing into the side of a skyscraper loaded with thousands of pounds of jet fuel isn’t enough to bring down a building? Remember, steel only needs to be heated a few hundred degrees before it’s no longer structurally viable.

  • The truth is that the real pro-pharma mis-educated idiot, is you; and anyone that has actually educated themselves to the truth and the reality of vaccines, can clearly see that and as much as you refuse to face it and you continue to deny it.

    You refuse to get educated, and you refuse anything at all but the known pro-vax false vaccine propaganda. So you resort to false insults regarding historical information that you know shows both small pox and polio vaccines to be and have been nothing at all resembling what they have historically been claimed to have been by the CDC/WHO.. You refuse the actual evidence of the real history, and as well you refuse all vaccine truth and reality. That is your own personal problem, not mine.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Here, let me help you out Lowell. I know it’s hard for you to remember a paper you linked like a dozen times just 3 posts up. The title was “Aluminium in Brain Tissue in Autism”.

  • Oh, so now you resort to childish one liner reply comments. I would have no reason to ever lie about that. Even though you were likely involved, you are disconnected from the loop, and in fact I believe you no longer have any connection to Sanford at all. In any case, what you claim to is just your own hate and deceit filled, wishful thinking. Give me your phone number and I will call you next time I go to SF, from inside that library. Then you can come and see for yourself.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Here’s a hint for you Lowell. If you have to rely on Whale to support your position you are in big trouble.

  • Let em come. I am not a coward like you are. You now respond like a bratty five year old; so perhaps try and grow up a bit.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    (605) 773-3478

  • I don’t work in any meat processing plant. Your comment does not even make any sense; perhaps you should read it again. You yourself employment wise are obviously not anybody, and that which would be worth calling about on anything ever, anywhere at all. Now claiming credentials is a farce and again just another false excuse to remain a coward.

  • Clearly a false number. So you fail again to support your known false claims, and even when you have the chance to. Then you respond with only targeted harassment.

  • That is clearly real history right in front of you and all of it. If you have to respond with only that then you are not only in denial but again refusing the truth and historical reality of vaccines. Your BS simply will not fly and not matter how much you self flatter your own delusions.

  • I know what I posted, however we were talking about two different issues at the time, and both involved a study. Just quit playing your BS games and simply because you can not actually respond.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Show us your drivers license if you’re so brave.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Whatever other menial job you have now wouldn’t be in jeopardy.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    How is it a false number?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Do you have anything since 1968, when the global smallpox eradication effort began? And not from Whale?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    If you knew what you posted you wouldn’t have had to have me tell you what you posted.

  • Charles Reading

    All you really need to be an ‘anti’ or ‘ex’ or ‘non’ vaxxer is a list of vaccine ingredients and a working brain. Period. End of story. the rest of the info is useful for talking with pro vaxxers, industry shills and ignorant consumers.

  • Brian

    Wrong on all counts…

  • Nope.

  • Still waiting for you to address that claim with evidence. Not my fault if you don’t hold up your end of the deal.

  • Any evidence of at least two shills here?

  • Mike Stevens

    “I have yet to encounter a single parent who claims that their child has autism despite not being vaccinated.”

    There are few kids who are completely unvaccinated, but Kim Staglione from Age of Autism didn’t vaccinate her 3rd child after her first 2 developed autism. The third still developed autism.
    I hope you don’t accuse Kim of making this up.

    Do you understand the difference between classic autism and “being on the spectrum”?

    ” A MIT researcher concluded that at the current rate 1 in 2 children will have autism in less than twenty years.”
    Who was that?
    And tell us when exactly… is it in 15 years? 17 years?
    [It wasn’t that idiot who suggested every child would have autism by 2030, but only 60% of girls, was it?]

  • Ron Roy

    More than likely a greatly exaggerated number. The MEDICAL MAFIA tends to do that in order to come up with an excuse to come up with another poison / vaccine they can profit from and to justify their existence.

  • AK

    I never stated that it’s impossible for children to develop autism without vaccines but the reality is that it is exceedingly rare for non-vaccinated children to develop autism while 1 in 45 children who are fully vaccinated today will develop symptoms consistent with autism. That is a massive number of children. The MIT researcher who made the claim that we will see a rate of 1 in 2 children with autism in the next 20 years (if the current trend continues) is Dr. Stephanie Seneff who is a senior research scientist at MIT.

    People can stay in denial on this issue but we know that the CDC knows that vaccines cause autism and then tried to cover it up, we know that countless parents say their children digressed into autism after vaccinations, and we know that there are also countless of physicians and researchers who have studied this extensively who know that vaccines cause vaccines (and many, many other chronic diseases) and yet this is a taboo subject for the main stream media who could blow this wide open in a heart beat. Instead EVERYBODY believes the corrupt, criminal pharmaceutical companies who have everything to lose if the truth is
    ever exposed.

    Ultimately parents have to decide what is right for their children but the government is trying to take that right away. We already see it in CA where the government decides what poisons are injected into children at what age and at what frequency. The corrupt CA senator who introduced this bill was payed off by big pharma.

    The corruption is endless and yet we trust Big Pharma and the government to decide who gets injected with what how frequently? If the criminal pharmaceutical companies have their way we will see mandatory vaccinations for all adults as well. You will be required to line up to get your monthly booster shots of poison for the “greater good” of society or face jail time.

    Big Pharma will stop at nothing to maximize their profits and the ultimate prize is mandatory vaccinations for everyone regardless of how useless or dangerous they are.

    Stop relying on Big Pharma for information about truth. When have they ever told the truth about anything. We know they consistently lie about their dangerous medications that kill well over 100,000 people a year.

    Instead start listening to those who were damaged by vaccines. These people are all the evidence we need to see how dangerous vaccines are and it goes way beyond autism.

    For those parents who think that their children are at risk by not being fully vaccinated just consider the fact that their parents most likely only received a handful vaccines and those were given later in life not right at birth.
    We didn’t have mass epidemics of infectious diseases because people only received a couple of vaccines so why do children today need nearly 70 vaccines to be safe? It makes no sense except for the medical establishment who profits from all these unnecessary vaccines.

    If you decide to vaccinate understand the ingredients and the potential side effects of those vaccines which are widely published but NEVER talked about by pediatricians. Once you understand the potential side effects you need to consider if you are willing to take those risks to prevent a harmless disease like the chicken pox.

    Be selective about which vaccines you take and by all means spread them out. Injecting 8 to 10 vaccines in one visit is dramatically increasing the risks of an adverse reaction.

    I am not a doctor but I can guarantee you that your pediatrician knows next to nothing about vaccines. Our pediatrician does not know or care about the ingredients of vaccines. Pediatricians are brain washed like everyone else to belief that all vaccines are safe and effective. It’s only when they start doing their own research (often after seeing the harmful side effects with their own eyes) that pediatricians do a better job of informing parents of the risks. It is called informed consent and these days Informed Consent is nonexistent when it comes to vaccines. Most parents simply don’t know that there are risks and by the time they find out it is too late for their children.

    As a parent you owe it to yourself to do your own research to protect your children. NOBODY cares more about the health of your children than you do so don’t trust that your pediatrician is going to give you the best advice, because they are simply trained to persuade parents to accept vaccinations no matter what.

  • Ron Roy

    Does one have to accept all theories? Religion is defined as a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith. DO you believe all systems of beliefs?

  • Ron Roy

    You first.

  • Ron Roy

    ”Vaccination – the act of artificially
    acquiring a disease so as to become immune to it – is flawed in a number
    of ways. Firstly, a vaccine contains many hazardous chemicals and not
    just the viruses to immunise against. These each have their own toxic
    affect on the body. Secondly, the route of entry is different to a
    naturally occurring disease. Most natural diseases would enter through
    the mouth or the nasal cavity, not the skin.

    Vaccination breaks the skin with a needle and injects foreign matter into the blood supply.
    This bypasses the skin’s role in immune function, as well as the tonsils, the mucous membranes, and so on”.http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Your-Immune-System-How-It-Works-And-How-Vaccines-Damage-It

  • Ron Roy

    Tons of studies? Yeah right. Show one the wasn’t financed by drug companies.

  • ;)

  • Ron Roy

    Exactly!

  • Brian

    By golly, I have both a list of all vaccine ingredients and a working brain. I also have a list of all the ingredients in other things, like milk or the chemical composition of fruit.

    No ingredient in vaccines, at relevant quantities, is dangerous. I know that because I understand basic chemistry.

  • Brian

    Lots of false information in this post. If anyone wants examples, feel free to ask.

    Even fellow anti-vaxxer sabelmouse says AK is a liar.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Ron, you’re creating a straw man argument. I didn’t say one has to accept all theories. My point was that some absolute truths are still referred to as theories. One example is the theory of gravity. Germ theory is another.

  • AK

    According to you everyone lies except the criminal pharmaceutical companies who are killing and maiming our children by the thousands with their toxic vaccines.
    You can spew your nonsense all you want, it doesn’t change the reality that our children are under attack with dangerous poisons and the more ignorant fools like yourself are refusing to face the facts the longer this killing will continue.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Ron, nothing you just copy pasted answers any of my questions.

  • AK

    Brian you are part of the problem, not the solution. We need to ask questions not accept Big Pharma and CDC guidelines as gospel. How is it that our children now need nearly 70 vaccines during childhood in order to be “safe” from a variety of diseases when a few decades ago people got a handful vaccines at most without dropping dead from disease. The reality is that the more children are vaccinated the sicker they get. It’s a paradox that the medical establishment is unwilling to acknowledge. We are told to believe the science and shut up. No questions allowed, no debate necessary since the “science is settled”. You can call me a liar all you want, but the truth is that there is something seriously wrong with these vaccines and countless of children are seriously harmed and even killed as a result. If any other product out there did as much harm as vaccines it would be eliminated in a heartbeat. Our children deserve better. We have a right to know what causes the explosion in autism but the issue is completely ignored.
    There is an army of parents with vaccine injured children who are trying to raise awareness to this important issue while low lives like yourself are insulting and attacking anyone who is trying to bring the devastating truth about vaccines to light.

  • AK

    So if none of the ingredients are dangerous how is it that there are so many side effects from vaccines? The list of official side effect is endless and includes even death. That’s quite remarkable for harmless ingredients.

    Even the Surpreme Court ruled vaccines “unavoidably unsafe”. How can that be if none of the ingredients are dangerous?

    And if vaccines are so harmless how is it that the pharmaceutical industry black-mailed congress into indemnifying Big Pharma from any lawsuits as a result of vaccine injuries?

    And if vaccines are so harmless why has the government paid out billions of dollars in damages to parents of vaccine injured children.

    Your understanding of basic chemistry is clearly mis-guided if you believe that none of the ingredients can cause any harm, because they clearly are causing very serious harm at an alarming frequency.

  • Proponent

    Ron Roy: “Tons of studies? Yeah right. Show one the wasn’t financed by drug companies.”

    Oh, dear..

    Ronald P. Roy doesn’t recall citing a study in a recent post/comment of his that listed the following acknowledgements..

    “This work was supported in part by grant R21 CA96951 from the National Cancer Institute. Regis A. Vilchez is the recipient of the 2001 Junior Faculty Development Award from GlaxoSmithKline and the 2002 Translational Research Award from the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society.”

    … …

    Next?

  • Proponent

    Cleanup in Aisle C(opypasta)! Cleanup in Aisle C(opypasta)!

    Bring a mop and bucket!

    … …

    Ronald P. Roy cares as much about his posts/comments being legible.. as he does about the actual factual content of said-same.

  • Proponent

    John: “Most states have laws that require TEXT BOOKS be truthful and any lies or unsubstantiated claims in those books must be removed.”

    I demand that your post/comment be removed based on your own words..

  • Proponent

    Ronald P. Roy.. you know when you talk/post like this.. it makes my “staff flower” … just like Joseph when he approached Mary.

  • Proponent

    @jeffryjohn… why do you allow such disruptive wall of text posts like this one above me?

    It causes the page to jump allllllll over the place.

  • cecilia

    https://pin.it/mv4pjalvv6lvag

    you mean like the way polio was eradicated in India?

  • AK

    Perhaps eradication was the wrong word but the reality is that Scarlet Fever dropped DRAMATICALLY without vaccinations.
    Apart from the recent outbreaks nobody mentioned Scarlet Fever in decades.

  • AK

    Thousands of structural engineers disagree with your clueless self. And the buildings weren’t just brought down, they were pulverized, which can’t just happen in a collapse. And how do explain the implosion of WTC7 into its own footprint despite never being hit by anything?
    Spare me the answer if you are just going to regurgitate the fraudulent NIST nonsense.

  • AK

    I don’t know, but how can you be certain that they aren’t?

  • AK

    These days being labeled a conspiracy theorist is a badge of honor. It means you no longer fall for the main stream lies and still have the ability to think for yourself. Those people who simply regurgitate the “official” narrative have fallen for the main stream propaganda and the top of the list is the Big Pharma lies spewed by the main stream media that injecting known poisons into your body is perfectly safe.

  • Brian

    Lots of false information in this comment. If anyone wants examples, feel free to ask.

  • *asks*

  • *asks* Ssh, disqus. Repetition is sometimes needed.

  • Nobody says that it’s perfectly safe. You understand only your own case and therefore understand little of that and have no grounds for preferring either opinion.

  • Again, very good questions.

    I have some discussion points and questions of my own.

    1)There is actually something in between “dangerous” and “perfect.” The most hypoallergic is harmless to most people, for example, but that doesn’t mean they’re perfectly safe – you could still choke, for example. Same deal.

    2)Would you define the legal term “unavoidably unsafe” for the class?

    3a)Well, I’d need to see evidence that the pharmaceutical industry was indeed involved in blackmail first. Got any? Discuss.
    3b)I keep asking for the full original decision that shows the immunity from any vaccine lawsuits – I can never get it. If you have it, please provide it.
    3c)Yeah, stop strawmanning.

    4)And your evidence for this is? Remember that any fraction of a large number, no matter how small the fraction, will itself be a large number.

    Since you brought up the NVICP though, I have a how much goes to lawyers? What was the result of the autism omnibus? What happened in the Cedillo and Hooker cases? How does it compare to a hypothetical NNIICP?

  • Brian

    No. Not everyone lies. You do however, as I’ve pointed out with specific examples.

  • Brian

    Lol. You probably saw some YouTube video that told you that. When was the last time you took an engineering course.

  • Ann

    Well, hon, you’re obviously not a doctor. There isn’t a doctor alive who would not agree that vaccines compromise the immune system, especially in the underdeveloped immune system of a newborn.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Oh I’m sure you can quote some quacks who say that, but what evidence is there? (there isn’t any)

  • Karl Wegner MD

    The dose makes the poison. If you drink too much water it can kill you – do you think water is poison?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Because no one has ever seen one? Or do they look just like us?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Do you know scarlet fever is a complication of group A streptococcal infections which usually present as pharyngitis (a sore throat)? Or that it’s transmission is primarily airborne? Or that almost everyone who goes to the doctor with a sore throat gets a throat swab to look for group A strep? And that those who test positive are given antibiotics, explaining why the complication of scarlet fever is less likely to develop?
    See, this is what happens when people with no medical education just regurgitate nonsense they’ve read on the internet.

  • Your being if or not a paid shill is in this case, irrelevant to the vaccine risk debate we have had going on here. Again you pull that sick card just to evade the issues that you know you can not answer to, and as directly outlined. You are wasting my time, and that is all you intend to do here.

  • You have zero studies which have ever shown the safety profile of the injected vaccine ingredients. You are simply assuming they are safe levels and that assumption. Where as well are your safety studies on injected and combined vaccine ingredients when multiple vaccines are given over time, and as well when 5 and up to 9 or more vaccines are given to a small child in a single day and office visit? In fact as well there is no existing chemist and nor toxicologist anywhere that has and can assure those injected ingredients are all found to be a physiologically safe levels. The needed studies simply do not exist as they have never been done. So what do you have to support your said claim that and I quote: you have nothing. [No ingredient in vaccines, at relevant quantities, is dangerous. I know that because I understand basic chemistry.]

    TOXIC INGREDIENTS FOUND IN VACCINES: * aluminum hydroxide * aluminum phosphate * ammonium sulfate *amphotericin B * animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain * dog kidney, monkey kidney * chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg * calf (bovine) serum * betapropiolactone * fetal bovine serum * formaldehyde * formalin * gelatin * glycerol * human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) * hydrolized gelatin * mercury thimerosol (thimerosal, Merthiolate) * monosodium glutamate (MSG) * neomycin * neomycin sulfate * phenol red indicator * phenoxyethanol (antifreeze) * potassiumdiphosphate * potassium monophosphate * polymyxin B * polysorbate 20 * polysorbate 80 porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein * residual MRC5 proteins * sorbitol * tri(n)butylphosphate * VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells * washed sheep red blood plus (source, CDC’s Vaccine Excipients Table.

    DISEASES FROM VACCINES, a short list:* Allergies * Asthma * Attention Deficit Disorder *Autism *Auto-immune Diseases * Blindness * Brain Cell Loss *Cancer * Central NervousSystem Damage* Deafness * Developmental Damage *DEATH * Diabetes * Epilepsy *Learning Disabilities * Leukemia * Multiple Sclerosis * Neurological Disease *Organ Disease * Psoriasis * Seizures * Shaken Baby Syndrome * Synergistic Toxicity *SIDS * Total Paralysis *

    Vaccine Ingredients and Manufacturer Information
    (alphabetical order by vaccine)
    https://vaccines.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=005206

  • You just entirely ignored and evaded the direct points that were put in front of you. It could not have been done any better if it all had came straight off the devils own deceptive tongue.

    Here is another question. You pro-vax people claim that injected vaccines are little to no different than acquiring the natural illness and in regard to the physiological effect of vaccines. That, even though clearly vaccines bypass the normal processes of the primary and even the secondary immune system in an entirely different way than the known illnesses do, and which you call VPD’s.

    When has any child anywhere or individual ever encountered and acquired multiple illnesses at the same time, and as vaccine cause immune reactivity to? You do know what immune system cytokine reactivity is don’t you? You have heard the term used, cytokine storm, and which can be fatal? Regarding the CDC vaccine schedule, you can see how many different illnesses are vaccinated for at a time and on the same day, and per the age of the child. What studies have been done which show that this large number of vaccines does not overwhelm the immune system and as well cause immune system dysregulation? How do you know that all of the vaccine ingredients as well do not cause serious adverse health effects? You don’t know any of this, and you might as well just admit it. Vaccinated children today are over-all sicker and with more chronic illness and disorders than at any time before in history. Yet entirely un-vaccinated children are largely and always yet known to enjoy very good health. Does that not at all concern you? It should. It is concerning for adults as well, and the CDC vaccine schedule for them also keeps on growing and increasing as for the number of adult vaccines recommended and pushed in medical facilities.

    This is the CDC Childhood Vaccine Schedule.
    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/downloads/parent-ver-sch-0-6yrs.pdf
    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/downloads/child/0-18yrs-child-combined-schedule.pdf

    Vaccine Ingredients and Manufacturer Information
    (alphabetical order by vaccine)
    https://vaccines.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=005206

    Here is a discussion as well that you should really listen to. Enjoy.

    Dear President Donald J Trump, We too have been CENSORED! ~ McClelland & Elkordy
    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/themaryandsallieshow/2017/12/01/dear-president-donald-j-trump-we-too-have-been-censored-mcclelland-elkordy

  • Brian

    Sure.

    “it is exceedingly rare for non-vaccinated children to develop autism”
    Nope. It’s just as common as with vaccinated children, as study after study after study confirms.

    “Dr. Stephanie Seneff who is a senior research scientist at MIT.”
    Technically true, but in a completely different field. Seneff has no expertise in vaccines or autism, so her claims are no more relevant than an art history professor claiming that physicists are wrong about dark matter.

    “we know that the CDC knows that vaccines cause autism and then tried to cover it up”
    Nope. Still nope.

    “there are also countless of physicians and researchers who have studied this extensively who know that vaccines cause vaccines”
    Vaccines cause vaccines, huh?

  • Brian

    Sure.

    “The reality is that the more children are vaccinated the sicker they get.”
    Nope. Just the opposite, in fact.

    “We are told to believe the science and shut up.”
    Not really. The job of scientists is to question the current science, but if you don’t have any actual evidence, then no one is expected to take you seriously when you say it’s all wrong.

    “If any other product out there did as much harm as vaccines it would be eliminated in a heartbeat.”
    Nope. First you’ll have to provide actual evidence of harm in any substantial quantity. Regarding other products- ever ride a bike, use a toilet, or drive a car?

    “There is an army of parents with vaccine injured children who are trying to raise awareness to this important issue while low lives like yourself are insulting and attacking anyone who is trying to bring the devastating truth about vaccines to light.”
    Nope, but there’s an army of scam artists and con men who will exploit the gullible and vulnerable who believe this nonsense.

  • All you have to do is provide evidence I’m a paid shill.

  • Then humour me. All you’ve got to do is provide the evidence.

  • Ron Roy

    Sound like a serious medical condition I’d have that looked at. Tell them to start with a brain scan because I believe a good part of it may be missing.

  • Ron Roy

    Typical Proponent has an ” accident ” and tries to blame it on someone else. Bring a very large bucket because I believe Proponent is full of IT.

  • Ron Roy

    Ooo I’m impressed! NOT! Just another pharmaceutical company paid stooge.

  • Ron Roy

    And not from Whale? Why not? The Whale section on vaccines is very comprehensive and informative.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Ron…just stop please. The fact that AVs have to turn to sources like Whale to support their beliefs just shows how uneducated they are. If you believe aliens and mole people and reptilians are among us though it’s right up there with the best of them.

  • eggman2

    That is the most stupid comment that I ever heard. You must either be an extremely stupid person or a propaganda prostitute working for the junk medicine robber barons ( the makers of vaccine and other junk medicines).

  • eggman2

    This to Brian also: thank you for the laugh. This world would be boring without people like you.

  • eggman2

    Sorry, buy penicillin is not a good treatment for anything. My grandfather died from overdosing on penicillin because it was a new promising thing.

    Penicillin treatment was invented because of tuberculosis. But way before that , tuberculosis was disappearing by itself with the advent of massive food production at the beginning of the industrial revolution. All that that indicates is that the true medicine is nutrition.

    When I get an infection ,I take the universal antibiotic, vitamin C. I have treated tetanus that way a couple of times. All the other vitamins and minerals are good for infections, too. One needs them all, and the best way to get them is through organically grown food.

    But vitamin C is so important, and our government so corrupt because we get our vitamin C from China while our government is busy supporting junk medicine.

  • Kittydoll

    I am interested in seeing the evidence that you speak of. Shall you provide it or are you just passing wind??

  • Kittydoll

    Damn straight, you talk!

  • eggman2

    This article was good. But when I saw the title I thought that it was about our our stupid childbirth method that I have been taking for more than a decade: the woman lying down position, the cutting of the umbilical cord, and so on.

    My efforts paid off a little bit because right now there is talk about women giving birth standing up in the internet. But there is also a fighting back from the junk medicine robber barons.who really want to have control of our lives for profit. So now they have put stupid people commenting about how terrible childbirth is while having their stupid subject doing it all wrpng to dramatize

  • eggman2

    The video of the woman doing it the right way: standing up and pulling the baby herself has been taken out of you tube, so it seems.

  • eggman2

    You don’t need a midwife.

    Also when I try to write something, if I use a public WiFi , I get blocked and attacked cybernetically. That is why I couldn’t finish the first comment above.

  • Brian

    “These days being labeled a conspiracy theorist is a badge of honor.”

    I found the qualities that make a conspiracy theorist are:
    1. Extreme gullibility
    2. The inability to fact check or the knowledge required to verify claims
    3. The arrogant ignorance to believe you know better than the experts

    Wear that badge proudly AK!

  • sabelmouse

    interesting!
    as for midwives. it depends , i was happy to have the comfort and support,

  • Ron Roy

    I’ve said this before but…… Do you believe what every book in a library says? I don’t care bout any other segment / portion / sector / section of Whale I stick to Whale/Vaccine. Just the fact that you and your ilk try to denigrate it make me even more resolute in telling everyone about Whale/Vaccine. I also warn them to ignore, if they chose to, other segments / portion / sector / section of Whale. Vaccine Liberation is also a very informative site.

  • eggman2

    That is because women are scared from all the propaganda put out by the junk medicine robber barons. Just have a diet as natural as possible for a human being, and stand up and do it by yourself.

    Like I said, after me writing this for more than a decade, last year there was a woman standing up and pulling the baby by herself But the drug companies must have pulled the video off because I can’t find it. And now they have a bunch of stupid people making stupid comments about childbirth.
    The say that rape is a matter of power over somebody. Well the junk medicine robber barons are raping everyone: first with childbirth, then with vaccines, and on and on.

  • eggman2

    Finally I was able to finish the comment above.

  • Ron Roy

    Wow 5 people upvoting a comment that even a kid in biology class could see is a mistake. If the virus from the vaccine didn’t get into the bloodstream there would be NO antibody response.

  • Ron Roy

    The evidence is no one could be as stupid as you pretend to be unless they’re paid.

  • Ron, getting into the bloodstream is distinct from getting straight into the bloodstream.

  • Which is an assertion. Like I said, all you have to do is provide evidence.

  • eggman2

    I was watching the movie ” The Doors ” ,and Jim Morrison yells out to the croud, ” You are all slaves ! ”

    Yeah, slaves of the drug companies, of rules set up by a corrupt government, and so on. It has been like that for decades.

  • Ron Roy

    Evidence emm? Oh just look for people who think that injecting a chemical soup into a baby will make them healthier.

  • eggman2

    Maybe centuries…

  • Hmm….still assertion.

  • FallsAngel

    Another one with “Upvote Envy”!

  • What’s your explanation for every other country in the world?

  • 3. Also, all of the other countries in the world.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    OK Ron pick the very best Whale vaccine article and we can discuss it. The very best.

  • shay simmons

    There isn’t a doctor alive who would not agree that vaccines compromise the immune system

    FTFY.

  • shay simmons

    Older Ann: “Because there is no vaccine against Scarlet Fever, we see less and less of it”
    New Ann: “Yes, we are seeing more and more scarlet fever ”

    Consistency isn’t your strong suit, is it?

  • Mike Stevens

    Your quite unhinged, you know.

  • Mike Stevens

    “if I use a public WiFi , I get blocked and attacked cybernetically.”

    Have you tried wrapping aluminium foil around your phone when you are in public?
    It really helps. Also make sure no dark coloured helicopters are in the immediate vicinity.

  • sabelmouse

    still, women used to support each other, had mothers,sisters, grandmothers.
    we mostly don’t.
    a good midwife is there for mother and child. even in a hospital, ideally.
    i loved the dutch system.

  • eggman2

    They are all propaganda prostitutes or really stupid people. At that rate we might never have progress , and this country would go down because of it. This country is going down because of people like that.

  • eggman2

    Comradeship is always nice to have. But in the worst case scenario, you can do it by yourself , like all the other wild animals, like the Hadsa from Africa do. But stupid people will open their mouth at that.

  • sabelmouse

    well, we do have some disadvantages compared to other animals. and breech births do happen.

  • eggman2

    No, no, no. If you have breech birth , you are not doing like a wild animal. Why are you lying down? That is stupid. When the woman is standing up , the baby’s head is pointing to the vagina’s opening. That is the way it should be.

    Get down with it and do the right thing.

    And fight the stupid or prostituted to the junk medicine robber barons ( the providers of junk medical birth and other junk medicines ) politicians that make to hurt people but keep the profits alive.

  • sabelmouse

    are you kidding me? have you given birth?
    breech babies don’t just turn because someone is upright.
    of course lying down is the worst generally.

  • Bored Now

    There isn’t a doctor alive who would not agree that vaccines compromise the immune system,

    …in bizzaro world.

  • Ron Roy
  • Bored Now

    …and again this doesn’t make Ann’s point either.

    Ann, in case you didn’t even bother to read what you were responding to is claiming that no doctor on earth would agree that vaccines do not compromise the immune system. To make her point you would need the opinion of every doctor on earth.

  • shay simmons

    So…no evidence. Per usual.

  • shay simmons

    And…no evidence. Comme d’habitude.

  • shay simmons

    At least the library files sci-fi/fantasy books under “Fiction.”

  • shay simmons

    Would this be the Archie Kalokerinos who never actually saw the children on whose cases he based his claims?

  • eggman2

    Your argument is as good as the vaccinators argument:” Nature does not know what is doing; that is why you need vaccines.” ” Nature does not know what is doing ;that is why you need stupid junk medical pseudoscience to give birth.” Turn into a vaccinator; you are not far from it.

  • Bored Now

    Oh? Aren’t there safe doses of just about anything?

  • sabelmouse

    there’s a huge difference between having the help of other women/a midwife and buying into the whole medical industrial birthing system.
    we are social creatures, why should women give birth alone, and yes, due to civilisation /lifestyle we are somewhat more prone to issues.
    have you given birth?

  • eggman2

    Yes, it is the fear that you are raised with. What you need is to study the anthropology of primitive people.

    To claim that nature is inadequate is the essence of what I have called civilized stupidity syndrome.

    Babies in civilization can be way too big because of malnutrition. There are no oils in the wild; eating with oils is malnutrition. There are no processed or refined sugars in the wild; eating with them is malnutrition. Most of the food in the wild is going to be raw; cooked food raises the sugar levels in the blood, which has the same effect as eating a lot of sugar. Babies in wombs fed with those can be too big, and they might come out sick or prone to sickness. The 7 pound baby is probably an abnormality, not found in the wild. In the wild there is no alcohol or tobacco, and people eat to stay alive and not for pleasure. To get their food, people in the wild have to do exercise first; people in civilization open the refrigerator door. Because of all these things, mothers in civilization are big and unfit , also.

    But even in the worst case scenario, childbirth can be harmless if people don’t freak out, as it is customarily the case–people do freak out. I was delighted to hear the case in the news of a woman, that was so fat , that she didn’t know where her waist was. She did not know for that reason that she was pregnant. Until, one day she went to the toilet with the sensation that she needed to go, and the baby came out.

    A lot of the stuff that is done by medical professionals and midwives is stupid. The woman should never lie down and the umbilical cord should not be cut.

  • Ann

    Yes, I agree with you, there is no evidence that vaccines strengthen the immune system. Glad to see we agree on something.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Gosh since you claim all doctors think vaccines compromise the immune system I’d expect you could at least come up with some evidence.

  • Standard big pharma misdirected health care has always wanted to cause a situation where they felt they called and needed to intervene, for profit. So called modern medicine is yet 100 years backwards in what they should have known, and all based on an original foundation that was false from the start. That false foundation is the only thing that would promote corrupt big pharma. Pasteur was actually a no ethics dimwitted mad man, and Antoine Becamp was the early and real scientist of health care.

    Origins of Medical Industry Corruption
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NheKUW6kGuY&t=2s

    Allopathic Reductionism

    Dr. Glidden explains the difference between what medicine practice our doctors really follow, and how their training is not near as superior to wholistic medicine practices.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocixlweg7NY&feature=youtu.be

    MEDICINE KILLS MILLIONS (direct data and statistics)
    http://medicinekillsmillions.com/

    Conventional Medicine is the Leading Cause of Death
    https://draxe.com/conventional-medicine-is-the-leading-cause-of-death/

    PHARMA DEATH CLOCK

    TOTAL DEATHS IN THE UNITED STATES SINCE JANUARY 1, 2000…

    BIG PHARMA’S CHEMICAL WARFARE ON HUMANITY DWARFS THE NUMBER OF VICTIMS KILLED BY ALL WORLD WARS AND ACTS OF TERRORISM COMBINED…

    While drug companies profit billions, people are dying by the millions.

    http://pharmadeathclock.com/

    These 13 Corporations Are “Big Pharma”: Their History, Crimes, and Products
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHSRwhceBxk

    Our Stories
    SSRI Stories is a collection of over 6,000 stories that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals) in which prescription drugs were mentioned and in which the drugs may be linked to a variety of adverse outcomes including violence.

    https://ssristories.org/

    Western Medicine is Rockefeller Medicine – All The Way
    http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/western-medicine-rockefeller-medicine/

    Benjamin Rush
    U.S. Founding Father, Signer of The Declaration of Independence
    (1746-1813)

    Unless we put medical freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship to restrict the art of healing to one class of Men and deny equal privileges to others; the Constitution of the Republic should make a Special privilege for medical freedoms as well as religious freedom.

    http://www.all-creatures.org/quotes/rush_benjamin.html

    Generation SICK: The Power, Politics and Propaganda Behind America’s Health Crisis Paperback – January 10, 2016
    by Dr. Vic Naumov (Author)
    https://www.amazon.com/Generation-SICK-Politics-Propaganda-Americas/dp/0996960406

    Pharmacopoeia …the sorceries of Babylon
    https://discernthetime.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/pharmaceuticals-the-sorceries-of-babylon/

    PHARMACEUTICALS – THE SORCERIES OF BABYLON
    http://birthofanewearth.blogspot.com/2014/01/pharmaceuticals-sorceries-of-babylon.html

    Pharmakeia (aka sorceries) of Babylon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L-qSVqg37E

    The Lucifarian … Attack.

    King James Bible
    And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. http://biblehub.com/revelation/18-23.htm

    King James Bible
    And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

    Revelation 18: 23, “By Thy Sorceries Were All Nations Deceived.”
    https://www.christianforums.com/threads/on-revelation-18-23-by-thy-sorceries-were-all-nations-deceived.7728322/

  • How about if you wrapped some tin foil around your entire in denial head, as I am sure for you that a tin foil hat won’t be near enough to keep and stop the truth from getting in, and anymore. You surely don’t want any chance of it happening that you need to face reality.

  • How can anyone envy fake and worthless, upvotes? Votes made by as well equally known, sick pro-vaccine shills.

  • There is very little difference, go get a hypo injected into your butt and see how long it takes for you to need to sit down, all buzzed up. What kind of a fool would even claim to there being any significant difference between muscular injection and vein injection? You are clearly as biologically and physiologically knowledge based inept, as a crazed monkey chasing its tail.

  • LOL, more shill talk, dementia? I would ask you to try and comprehend what is actually going on here, but obviously that is not possible.

  • Oh look, even sick pharma shill Shania Simmons, is back.

  • I have been providing evidence here to no end here, and all you have done is ignore it. Where is your evidence and for any claims you have made? Being simply pro-vax does not allow you a get in free card as to make more known false vaccine propaganda claims, and with no evidence.

  • If you have and basic reading comprehension, you should know that is already here. Get off your worthless and lazy shill butt, and start addressing it directly. Or will someone need to pull your intentional blinders off, first?

  • All you need to do is reply to the evidence that is already here, and you know that you have no ability to do so.

  • You can deny it all you want, and again that proof issue alone is not a valid reason to fail to debate the vaccine issues here, and that you know you can not respond to. Use any excuse you can find, and play all the childish avoidance and deflection games that you want. You can’t respond and nor in any honesty, period.

  • That is enough evidence for most knowledgeable and thinking human beings. But not enough for shill Shayla. How about if you actually debated the vaccine risk issues here, and as per the article, and which you know you can’t do, and never could do?

  • eggman2

    Thanks for the information, Lowell.

  • Just more worthless avoidance and deflection from the actual vaccine risk issues. That is all you can do.

  • First, directly show and describe why it is that you claim Johns statements to be false. Thinking human beings that have done the proper independent research know those statements to be directly true. I demand that you, Paul Offit, and the CDC remove all statements that are not truthful, lies, and that are not substantiated claims. You should know that would leave nothing left within their so called information.

    As for their known epidemiological studies.

    And, what did they study in those so called and claimed to larger epidemiological, (population based), vaccine safety studies? In fact they only studied one single vaccine, the MMR; and one single vaccine ingredient, Thimerosal. None of the larger epidemiological studies compared vaccinated to entirely unvaccinated. None of the studies looked at the safety profile of the entire CDC vaccine schedule. None of those studies as well looked at the safety profile of giving from 5 to up to 9 vaccines or more to and infant or small child, in a single day and office visit.

    Every one of the larger MMR, and Thimerosal epidemiolgical studies were clearly COOKED, for the results, period. Found were the use of flawed study designs, use of unrealiable data, predetermined outcomes unsupported by the data, and as well major conflicts of interest in the studies funding sources; none of them being independent and nor unbiased.

    VACCINES AND AUTISM – WHAT DO EPIDEMIOLOGICAL STUDIES REALLY TELL US? (This contains a well done analysis of those said studies)

    We have 16 studies already that clearly state that vaccines do not cause autism.”
    — Amy Pisani, Executive Director, Every Child By Two

    “16 studies have shown no causal association between vaccines and autism, and these
    studies carry weight in the scientific industry.”
    — Dr. Nancy Snyderman, NBC Today Show Medical Editor

    “The science is largely complete. Ten epidemiological studies have shown MMR vaccine
    doesn’t cause autism; six have shown thimerosal doesn’t cause autism.”
    — Dr. Paul Offit, “Autism’s False Prophets”

    Read more:
    http://www.rescuepost.com/files/vaccines-and-autism-epidemiology-rebuttal.pdf

    14 Studies
    http://www.fourteenstudies.org/

  • eggman2

    Also, the baby should be put to the breast immediately after coming out.

  • Actually read my reply. Is your reading comprehension actually that bad, or are you only selectively unable to comprehend what is replied to you?

  • That is simply harassment in the false assumption that you are actually anybody at all. You aren’t. If your identity were to be revealed to be that you are an actual MD, (and proven as so), then if what you are posting here is legitimate and of proper context, truthful, and correct; then you would and should have no worries about anyone calling your hospital or whatever medical facility you worked at. If you know that what you are doing would be disapproved of by a medical employer, then that says a lot about your obvious lack of credibility. Are you worried that they would determine that you are hired on the side as a vaccine shill liar? Then what is the problem? You see, your shown and continued BS simply does not fly on any level at all. You are directly a shill coward and you know it. You have no excuses left.

  • You have no right to that information, and no valid reason to ask for it. What exactly is the reason you ask? A screen shot of a drivers license has absolutely nothing to do with any bravery and in my case, whatsoever. Indeed I do have one. Just more of your pointless, sick, and twisted personal harassment.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    What are you afraid of?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    In this day and age medical management doesn’t like complaints – even from nut jobs like you. To them “the customer is always right”. And of course AVs love to leave fake reviews on doctor finder websites. There aren’t meat factory worker review sites last I checked.

  • Oh you poor disgruntled baby that can’t handle real evidence of the historical vaccine truth. And nothing jumped around for me at all. Perhaps you need to see an optometrist. There is nothing disruptive going on here at all, but a disruption of the false vaccine propaganda that you in error, believe in.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Lol your reply says you knew which study I was referring to, which is funny.

  • No it clearly did not and just the opposite, and as was in no uncertain terms directly explained to you. You simply refuse to ever be wrong. You were playing the well known and typical deflection and avoidance, shill games; and you are still playing your sick games. Go back and answer the question.

  • Still waiting for YOU to address directly the vaccine truth information above. You are a pro-vax shill, paid or unpaid, end of story. No one as well cares about your avoidance and deflection shillary attempted tricks. Obviously all you want to do here is cause more intentional deliberate disruption and distraction. Directly go back and answer to the vaccine truth and risk information you were provided, or get gone.

  • And what would you know about that? Medical complaints to such as patient advocates, have to be justified and real, or they are not considered for addressing and/or reprimand of a doctor or any other personnel. No one goes in and makes false and fake complaints. As well no medical facility even pays attention to fake doctor reviews on doctor finder websites; much more any claims that are easily realized and known as false. Do you have any more fabricated and false excuses for remaining a no identity, coward? Someone as well using a false medical identity.

  • Nothing at all; and what are you suggesting? A drivers license has no relevance to anything at all here, and you clearly already know that I am using a real identity, and as per your previous replies. Yet you go on with continuing to play your sick deflection from yourself, games.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Well maybe now you can explain the lack of controls.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You wouldn’t call a patient advocate you imbecile. You’d call the CEO of the hospital or the director of the clinic.

    “No one goes in and makes false and fake complaints.”
    They don’t go in, idiot – they type fake reviews from home. And it is potential patients who read those reviews and may choose to go elsewhere because of them.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So if you’re not afraid let’s see it.

  • Kittydoll

    Dodge and deflect much???

  • Kittydoll

    “Shill”…is that your new favorite word now? LOL

  • sabelmouse

    i did, as well as midwife practices in remote alpine regions at the turn of the last century.
    i had mine at home with the help and support of a competent midwife.
    have you given birth.

  • I’ve told you what the terms are. Up to you whether or not you want to accept that.

    But a shill is someone who is a)being compensated and b)not disclosing that fact.

  • Logic 101. Your job to prove it.

  • Baseless shill gambit? You know what happens.

  • No, you’ve been making assertions.

  • Sugar gets into your bloodstream from the food you eat.

    Since there’s very little difference, there is very little difference between ingestion and injection.

  • Kittydoll

    I think you should read the definition of a shill:
    “an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.”

    Now that you know maybe you can find a more correct word to add to your vocabulary.

  • Kittydoll

    Hubbs is just a backwoods boy where they have stump-broke cows and sheep run scared.

  • Ron Roy

    Archie was a world traveler he did see the bad results of vaccination especially on the Aboriginal reservations he work in.

  • Ron Roy

    Yeah they eradicate polio and cause something far worst:

    Confirmed India’s Polio Eradication Campaign Caused 47,500 Cases of Vaccine-Induced Polio Paralysishttps://realfarmacy.com/confirmed-indias-polio-eradication-campaign-caused-47500-cases-of-vaccine-induced-polio-paralysis/

  • cecilia

    your link is spam, much like your opinions.

  • eggman2

    Yes, we have the disadvantage that I call “civilized stupidity syndrome” ( the propensity of civilized human beings to to become increasingly stupid about their own nature as civilization advances ). The most important fight is the inner fight against stupidity.

  • shay simmons

    I notice you’re carefully avoiding the fact that in your citation above, Kalokerinos isn’t talking about Aboriginal reservations.

    He also is an infanticide supporter, insisting that broken ribs and cranial trauma aren’t caused by abusive parents but rather by vaccines. Ron Roy — child abuse advocate.

  • You can twist it any way you want to, and you still remain a shill, period. Get to addressing some of the stated vaccine risk issues here. No one cares who or what you are, all you post is trash and that is not going to change.

  • Sugar is an entirely different issue than is injected aluminum adjuvants and metallic vaccine contamination. Injected nano-particles never leave the body, unless there is undertaken some working form of chelation.

    Christopher Exley is one of the foremost experts on aluminum and aluminum toxicity within the human body. Listen as he explains and describes the results of his recent aluminum adjuvant related vaccine study, with co-authors!!!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=SmkVv8pcVhc

    The Toxicity of Aluminum Adjuvants
    Christopher Exley
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaExaqCv5vo

    Dr. Exley on Vaccines, PhD in Ecotoxicology of Aluminum, University of Stirling
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=il6wH81qHAo

    Christopher Exley, more informational videos on aluminum toxicity.
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Christopher+Exley+aluminum+study+

    Study: Record Levels of Aluminum Found in Autistic Children Brain Tissue

    November 28, 2017 4:04 pm

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    Dr. Christopher Exley—one of the world’s leading experts on aluminum toxicity—has shown that chronic intoxication with myriad forms of this “ubiquitous and omnipresent metal” is exacting a high price on human health. Dr. Exley and other aluminum experts such as molecular biologist Dr. Lucija Tomljenovic have confirmed that aluminum readily and actively traverses the blood-brain barrier to selectively accumulate in brain tissues, where it induces unwelcome changes in brain biochemistry. As Dr. Exley has noted, “There are no ‘normal’ levels of brain aluminum,” meaning that “its presence in brain tissue, at any level, could be construed as abnormal” In light of the fact that even minute amounts of aluminum can have adverse neurological consequences, Dr. Exley’s newest paper—which reports on the first-ever study of aluminum in ASD brain tissue—is groundbreaking. Published in the Journal of Trace Elements in Medicine and Biology, the paper documents some of the highest values for aluminum in human brain tissue ever recorded. Using a two-pronged study design, the researchers measured and characterized aluminum deposits in brain tissues from five to ten ASD donors, most of whom died in their teens or twenties. What the research team found was startling. The study’s quantitative arm documented “consistently high” aluminum levels representing “some of the highest values for brain aluminum content ever measured in healthy or diseased tissues.”

    Read More…
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2017/study-record-levels-of-aluminum-found-in-autistic-children-brain-tissue/

    Aluminium in brain tissue in autism

    Abstract
    Autism spectrum disorder is a neurodevelopmental disorder of unknown aetiology. It is suggested to involve both genetic susceptibility and environmental factors including in the latter environmental toxins. Human exposure to the environmental toxin aluminium has been linked, if tentatively, to autism spectrum disorder. Herein we have used transversely heated graphite furnace atomic absorption spectrometry to measure, for the first time, the aluminium content of brain tissue from donors with a diagnosis of autism. We have also used an aluminium-selective fluor to identify aluminium in brain tissue using fluorescence microscopy. The aluminium content of brain tissue in autism was consistently high. The mean (standard deviation) aluminium content across all 5 individuals for each lobe were 3.82(5.42), 2.30(2.00), 2.79(4.05) and 3.82(5.17) μg/g dry wt. for the occipital, frontal, temporal and parietal lobes respectively. These are some of the highest values for aluminium in human brain tissue yet recorded and one has to question why, for example, the aluminium content of the occipital lobe of a 15 year old boy would be 8.74 (11.59) μg/g dry wt.? Aluminium-selective fluorescence microscopy was used to identify aluminium in brain tissue in 10 donors. While aluminium was imaged associated with neurones it appeared to be present intracellularly in microglia-like cells and other inflammatory non-neuronal cells in the meninges, vasculature, grey and white matter. The pre-eminence of intracellular aluminium associated with non-neuronal cells was a standout observation in autism brain tissue and may offer clues as to both the origin of the brain aluminium as well as a putative role in autism spectrum disorder.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0946672X17308763

    Full study: (scroll down on page)
    https://ac.els-cdn.com/S0946672X17308763/1-s2.0-S0946672X17308763-main.pdf?_tid=f2be2fde-d56d-11e7-9e32-00000aab0f27&acdnat=1512005566_4d3d686804922e47e0b559810404e854

    New Study: 10x more aluminum in brains with autism

    From our friends at the Children’s Medical Safety Research Institute

    Discovery of “Shockingly High” Levels of Aluminum in Brains of Individuals with Autism Suggests Link with Aluminum-Containing Vaccines

    STAFFORDSHIRE, UNITED KINGDOM–(Marketwired – November 28, 2017) – A new study published in the Journal of Trace Elements in Medicine and Biology provides the strongest indication yet that aluminum is an etiological agent in autism spectrum disorder (ASD), according to researchers at Keele University in England.

    The study used transversely heated graphite furnace atomic absorption spectrometry to measure, for the first time, the aluminum content of brain tissue from five donors who had died with diagnoses of ASD. The results showed the donors to have had some of the highest values of aluminum yet measured in human brain tissue.

    The mean (standard deviation) aluminum content across all five individuals for each lobe were 3.82(5.42), 2.30(2.00), 2.79(4.05) and 3.82(5.17) mg/g dry wt. for the occipital, frontal, temporal and parietal lobes respectively. Previous measurements of 60 brains from humans not diagnosed with ASD showed an average content of 1 mg/g dry wt. of brain tissue.

    “One has to wonder why aluminum in the occipital lobe of a 15-year-old boy with autism would be a value that is at least 10 times higher than what might be considered acceptable for an elderly adult?” said Christopher Exley PhD, Professor in Bioinorganic Chemistry and author of the study. Another ground-breaking study by Exley and his team, published earlier in the year, identified similarly high levels of aluminum in the brains of individuals who died of familial Alzheimer’s disease.

    While the aluminum content of each of the five brains was extraordinarily high, it was the location of the aluminum in the brain tissue that served as the standout observation. The majority of aluminum was identified inside non-neuronal cells including microglia and astrocytes. Aluminum was also found in lymphocytes in the meninges and in similar inflammatory cells in the vasculature. According to the researchers, there was clear evidence of inflammatory cells heavily loaded with aluminum entering the brain via the meningeal membranes and the blood-brain-barrier.

    Aluminum-selective fluorescence microscopy was used to identify aluminum in the brain tissue of 10 donors. The results strongly suggest that aluminum is entering the brain in ASD via pro-inflammatory cells which have become loaded up with aluminum in the blood and/or lymph, much as has been demonstrated for monocytes at injection sites for vaccines including aluminum adjuvants.

    The fact that the majority of aluminum found in brain tissues in ASD was intracellular and associated with non-neuronal cells is, at least for now, unique to ASD and may begin to explain why young adolescents had so much aluminum in their brains.

    “The research does not infer that Al is a cause of autism, “said Exley, who also authored Human Exposure to Aluminum. “But these very high concentrations of a neurotoxin in brain tissue are not going to be benign and will contribute to neurodegeneration in affected tissues.”

    This study was funded by the Children’s Medical Safety Research Institute, a 502(c)3 nonprofit organization dedicated to funding independent research into the causal factors behind today’s epidemic of childhood chronic illness and disability.

    Access to the full article here:
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0946672X17308763

    November 28, 2017 07:00 ET
    Discovery of “Shockingly High” Levels of Aluminum in Brains of Individuals with Autism Suggests Link with Aluminum-Containing Vaccines
    http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/discovery-shockingly-high-levels-aluminum-brains-individuals-with-autism-suggests-link-2241940.htm

    Big Pharma and Big Profits: The Multibillion Dollar Vaccine Market – New Report says “Vaccine Market” Worth $61 Billion by 2020
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/big-pharma-and-big-profits-the-multibillion-dollar-vaccine-market/5503945

    Children’s Medical Safety Research Institute,

    Global study research
    http://www.cmsri.org/global-research/

    CMSRI-funded Research
    http://www.cmsri.org/cmsri-funded-research/

    J Inorg Biochem. 2011 Nov;105(11):1489-99. doi: 10.1016/j.jinorgbio.2011.08.008. Epub 2011 Aug 23.
    Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism?
    Tomljenovic L1, Shaw CA.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22099159

    Aluminum?s Role in CNS-immune System Interactions leading to Neurological Disorders
    https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/aluminums-role-in-cnsimmune-system-interactions-leading-to-neurological-disorders-14822-1745-7580-9-069.php?aid=20403

    Immunol Res. 2013 Jul;56(2-3):304-16. doi: 10.1007/s12026-013-8403-1.
    Aluminum in the central nervous system (CNS): toxicity in humans and animals, vaccine adjuvants, and autoimmunity.
    Shaw CA1, Tomljenovic L.

    Abstract
    We have examined the neurotoxicity of aluminum in humans and animals under various conditions, following different routes of administration, and provide an overview of the various associated disease states. The literature demonstrates clearly negative impacts of aluminum on the nervous system across the age span. In adults, aluminum exposure can lead to apparently age-related neurological deficits resembling Alzheimer’s and has been linked to this disease and to the Guamanian variant, ALS-PDC. Similar outcomes have been found in animal models. In addition, injection of aluminum adjuvants in an attempt to model Gulf War syndrome and associated neurological deficits leads to an ALS phenotype in young male mice. In young children, a highly significant correlation exists between the number of pediatric aluminum-adjuvanted vaccines administered and the rate of autism spectrum disorders. Many of the features of aluminum-induced neurotoxicity may arise, in part, from autoimmune reactions, as part of the ASIA syndrome.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23609067

    Human Papilloma Virus Vaccine and Primary Ovarian Failure:
    Another Facet of the Autoimmune/Inflammatory Syndrome
    Induced by Adjuvants

  • Part two.

    Dirty Vaccines: New Study Reveals Prevalence of Contaminants

    Every Human Vaccine Tested Was Contaminated by Unsafe Levels of Metals and Debris Linked to Cancer and Autoimmune Disease, New Study Reports

    Researchers examining 44 samples of 30 different vaccines found dangerous contaminants, including red blood cells in one vaccine and metal toxicants in every single sample tested – except in one animal vaccine.

    Using extremely sensitive new technologies not used in vaccine manufacturing, Italian scientists reported they were “baffled” by their discoveries which included single particles and aggregates of organic debris including red cells of human or possibly animal origin and metals including lead, tungsten, gold, and chromium, that have been linked to autoimmune disease and leukemia.

    In the study, published this week in the International Journal of Vaccines and Vaccination, the researchers led by Antonietta Gatti, of the National Council of Research of Italy and the Scientific Director of Nanodiagnostics, say their results “show the presence of micro- and nano-sized particulate matter composed of inorganic elements in vaccine samples” not declared in the products’ ingredients lists.

    Lead particles were found in the cervical cancer vaccines, Gardasil and Cervarix, for example, and in the seasonal flu vaccine Aggripal manufactured by Novartis as well as in the Meningetec vaccine meant to protect against meningitis C.

    Samples of an infant vaccine called Infarix Hexa (against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, hepatitis B, poliomyelitis and haemophilus influenzae type B) manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline was found to contain stainless steel, tungsten and a gold-zinc aggregate.

    Other metal contaminants included platinum, silver, bismuth, iron, and chromium. Chromium (alone or in alloy with iron and nickel) was identified in 25 of the human vaccines from Italy and France that were tested.

    GSK’s Fluarix vaccine for children three years and older contained 11 metals and aggregates of metals. Similar aggregates to those identified in the vaccines have been shown to be prevalent in cases of leukemia, the researchers noted.

    Many of the vaccines contained iron and iron alloys which, according to the researchers, “can corrode and the corrosion products exert a toxicity affecting the tissues”.

    READ MORE:
    http://info.cmsri.org/the-driven-researcher-blog/dirty-vaccines-new-study-reveals-prevalence-of-contaminants

    Dirty Vaccines – Part Two: What the Industry Knows and Isn’t Telling You
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/dirty-vaccines-part-two-what-industry-knows-and-isnt-telling-you

    Breaking Interview: Lead Author of ‘Dirty Vaccines’ Study Speaks Out
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/breaking-interview-lead-author-dirty-vaccines-study-speaks-out

    Vaccine Contaminants, Nanotechnology, and Cancer
    http://vaxxter.com/vaccine_contaminants_nano_cancer/

    Metals Debris Found in Vaccine Supply
    http://www.ecowatch.com/kennedy-metal-debris-vaccines-2276687112.html

    New Quality-Control Investigations on Vaccines: Microand
    Nanocontamination
    http://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/IJVV-04-00072.pdf

    Lead, Iron, Chromium and Other Metals Routinely Contaminate Vaccine Adjuvants, Industry Study Reports
    http://info.cmsri.org/aluminum-and-your-health-blog/lead-iron-chromium-and-other-metals-routinely-contaminate-vaccine-adjuvants-industry-study-reports?utm_campaign=eBook%3A+Age+of+Aluminum&utm_content=46490849&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook

    Little Things Matter: The Impact of Toxins on the Developing Brain
    Canadian Environmental Health Atlas

    We’ve been studying the impact of toxins on children for the past 30 years and reached the inescapable conclusion: little things matter. We’ve discovered that extremely low levels of toxins can impact brain development. We have also discovered that subtle shifts in the intellectual abilities of individual children have a big impact on the number of children in a population that are challenged or gifted. Steps should be taken to reduce children’s exposure to toxins or suspected toxins. You can read more about how toxins impact brain development and the supportive documentation for this video here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6KoMAbz1Bw

    Vaccine contaminated with short and long chain DNA fragments when the antigen is grown on aborted fetal cell tissue. Many vaccines today are made that way.

    STUDIES AND RESEARCHES ON AUTISM DISORDERS
    http://soundchoice.org/autism/

    Research and Publications
    http://soundchoice.org/autism/autism-research/

    New CDC Guidelines: 5 Year-Old Can Receive up to 19 Vaccinations in One Month
    http://vaccineimpact.com/2017/new-cdc-guidelines-5-year-old-can-receive-up-to-19-vaccinations-in-one-month/

    Vaccine Schedules
    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/index.html

    Big Pharma and Big Profits: The Multibillion Dollar Vaccine Market
    New Report says “Vaccine Market” Worth $61 Billion by 2020
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/big-pharma-and-big-profits-the-multibillion-dollar-vaccine-market/5503945

    How Much Money Do Pediatricians Really Make From Vaccines?
    https://wellnessandequality.com/tag/blue-cross-blue-shields-physician-incentive-program/

    2017 Performance
    Recognition Program
    PROVIDER INCENTIVE PROGRAM FOR:
    • BCN Commercial HMO
    • BCN AdvantageSM HMO-POS
    • BCBSM Medicare Plus BlueSM PPO

    http://thephysicianalliance.org/images/FilesDocuments/2017_BCN_BCBSM_PRPBooklet_Final122016.pdf

    The actual payoff amount to pediatricians for coercing parents into vaccinating.
    https://community.babycenter.com/post/a63644578/the-actual-payoff-amount-to-pediatricians-for-coercing-parents-into-vaccinating.

    http://thephysicianalliance.org/index.php/incentive-programs

    The Unknown Reasons Doctors Push Vaccines

    Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Blue Care Network of Michigan publishes online a shameless and bold report of how much cash they reward physicians for performing certain tests, and which apparently acts as an incentive to over-prescribe, thus inflating the costs of U.S. healthcare, which should be illegal.

    Blue Cross/Blue Shield published the 2016 Performance Recognition Program, a 28-page report indicating how medical insurance companies actually increase the costs of healthcare!

    Look what we find on the BC/BS page “Childhood Immunizations—Combo 10”!

    If MDs meet a target of 63% of eligible member patients, they will receive a payout of $400 per completed eligible member. Wow! Now you know one of the key reasons why parents are hounded to vaccinate their infants and toddlers. Gelt, pecunia, greenbacks—whatever you call M-O-N-E-Y.

    Read MORE:
    http://www.activistpost.com/2017/08/unknown-reasons-doctors-push-vaccines.html

    TOXIC INGREDIENTS FOUND IN VACCINES: * aluminum hydroxide * aluminum phosphate * ammonium sulfate *amphotericin B * animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain * dog kidney, monkey kidney * chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg * calf (bovine) serum * betapropiolactone * fetal bovine serum * formaldehyde * formalin * gelatin * glycerol * human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue) * hydrolized gelatin * mercury thimerosol (thimerosal, Merthiolate) * monosodium glutamate (MSG) * neomycin * neomycin sulfate * phenol red indicator * phenoxyethanol (antifreeze) * potassiumdiphosphate * potassium monophosphate * polymyxin B * polysorbate 20 * polysorbate 80 porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein * residual MRC5 proteins * sorbitol * tri(n)butylphosphate * VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells * washed sheep red blood plus (source), CDC’s Vaccine Excipients Table:

    DISEASES FROM VACCINES:* Allergies * Asthma * Attention Deficit Disorder *Autism *Auto-immune Diseases * Blindness * Brain Cell Loss *Cancer * Central NervousSystem Damage* Deafness * Developmental Damage *DEATH * Diabetes * Epilepsy *Learning Disabilities * Leukemia * Multiple Sclerosis * Neurological Disease *Organ Disease * Psoriasis * Seizures * Shaken Baby Syndrome * Synergistic Toxicity *SIDS * Total Paralysis *

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/sallie-o-elkordy-for-mayor-vaccine-free-nyc/proposed-executive-order-eo-vaccine-free-2017/1637470476269264/

  • Scientific facts are not simply assertions, fool.

  • If you can not and if you refuse to reply to the vaccine risk issues that these articles are all about, then get gone, period. Refusing to do so and in asking anyone to prove first that you are a shill, is about as brain dead MINDLESS as humanity can ever get.

  • Logic, and what do you ever know about any logic; nothing. No one really cares what you are and we obviously know what you are; so directly debate the vaccine risk issues here, or get out.

  • Again, directly debate the vaccine risk issues here, and which you obviously can not do, or get out! No one cares about your false excuses; and no one as well cares to hear any more of your deliberate, intentional, and continued use of only distraction and disruption.

  • No, “vaccine injury” is actually the words I use. Why is it that you can not debate any of that. Come back when you as well have a real identity.

  • The person deflecting and dodging here is actually you. Are you actually to inept to follow and read my replied with posts that exist here? Start responding to those vaccine harm done issues. You can’t, and you obviously know it.

  • Lets see you directly state and describe how and why a photo copy of my drivers license provides any evidence of anything at all? State directly what you are looking for and why. You know that you will again have no response that answers anything at all. You are simply deflecting from your own obvious cowardliness. And you someone with zero real identity here, requires someone like me with already a full identity given, to provide a copy of my drivers license. You can’t find levels of personal hypocrisy more obvious than that.

  • I personally have called a patient advocate any time I have had issues with a medial facility in the past; and that clearly got the results I wanted. I have never seen a fake review ever typed up and submitted; I think you are beyond paranoid. In fact you are not a medical doctor anyway, so what are you worried about. You simply make it up as you go.

    Dr. Karl H. Wegner
    1930 – 2014 Obituary Condolences
    http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/argusleader/obituary.aspx?pid=170508529

  • You still have not stated which study you referred to, and deliberately.

  • Part two of your reply, enjoy.

    Immunity and Impunity: Corruption in the State‐Pharma Nexus
    Paddy Rawlinson, Western Sydney University, Australia

    Abstract

    Critical criminology repeatedly has drawn attention to the state‐corporate nexus as a site of corruption and other forms of criminality, a scenario exacerbated by the intensification of neoliberalism in areas such as health. The state‐pharmaceutical relationship, which increasingly influences health policy, is no exception. That is especially so when pharmaceutical products such as vaccines, a burgeoning sector of the industry, are mandated in direct violation of the principle of informed consent. Such policies have provoked suspicion and dissent as critics question the integrity of the state‐pharma alliance and its impact on vaccine safety. However, rather than encouraging open debate, draconian modes of governance have been implemented to repress and silence any form of criticism, thereby protecting the activities of the state and the pharmaceutical industry from independent scrutiny. The article examines this relationship in the context of recent legislation in Australia to intensify its mandatory regime around vaccines. It argues that attempts to undermine freedom of speech, and to systematically excoriate those who criticize or dissent from mandatory vaccine programs, function as a corrupting process and, by extension, serve to provoke the notion that corruption does indeed exist within the state‐pharma alliance.

    Conclusion

    If state power is about controlling populations, and corporate power about profit maximization, the vaccine industry feeds both. As such, more than any other area of public health, it demands a respect for human rights, for independent scientific inquiry, and the presence of an effective form of surveillance to ensure that abuses of power are minimized and harms avoided. Indeed, the very premise upon which claims for vaccines is made—that is, their contribution to the betterment of humankind—assumes the presence of these conditions of rights and respect rather than repression and disdain. The editor of The Lancet, Richard Horton, states the obvious, that ‘[i]t would seem within the spirit of scientific inquiry to pose questions that challenge received orthodoxies’ (2015). On this supposition, Edward Jenner, the father of vaccines, was able to pursue what was then regarded as unorthodox, controversial and dangerous thinking. He was afforded the freedom to debate with his peers, to present his findings, to develop his ideas, however contentious they might have been. Whether Jenner’s science was right or wrong is not the issue here. Rather, the fact that he could and did pursue what he genuinely believed would make a contribution to modern medicine is a testament to the spirit of free inquiry that drives scientific advancement. So too, the ability to choose how and when medical intervention can be applied to an individual’s body, without fear of demonisation, is a testament to the spirit of freedom of choice and conscience. When science serves state power, and the state serves the corporate world, each becomes corrupt and corrupting, and society moves one step closer to a repetition of medicine’s darkest time.

    Correspondence: Paddy Rawlinson, Associate Professor in International Criminology, Human and Development Studies, Western Sydney University, Bankstown Campus, Horsley Road and Bullecourt Road, Bankstown 2200 NSW, Australia.

    Just copy and paste this url into your browser, and you will get the full article.

    Read more:
    file:///C:/Users/LH/Downloads/447-1-1931-3-10-20171130.pdf

    Corruption In Big Pharma’s Vaccine Industry
    https://www.naturalblaze.com/2017/12/corruption-big-pharmas-vaccine-industry.html
    http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/corruption-in-big-pharmas-vaccine-industry/

    Attention Parents:
    What Your Doctor Hasn’t Told You About Vaccinations Could Put Your Child at Risk for Autism, Asthma, Allergies, Diabetes or Cancer.
    Get the facts about vaccine risks, before you take any steps to vaccinate your child!
    http://www.immunitionltd.com/ebook/vaccination.htm?hop=activists

  • It’s about route of administration.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    How is me giving you my information any different from you giving me your information?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Patient advocates are part of a hospital’s risk management team. Their job is to keep patients from suing the hospital. So either you’re as gullible as one can be or, more likely, you’re just lying again.
    And if you’ve never seen a fake doctor review you’ve never looked at review sites for David Gorski.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Just 3 posts up I even gave you the title. You’re just unbelievably dense aren’t you?

  • Kittydoll

    Thank you for doing the research. The opinion presented here is compelling but not enough to not vaccinate a precious part of my family.
    You do as you see fit and live with the consequences and so will I.

  • In some cases, it might be stupidly small amounts that it would be hard to practically have on hand but the theoretical safe does for everything do exist, as you know.

  • It is not an opinion, but clearly world wide, FACT.

    As for your false fear mongering about risks of not vaccinating. Here is some more reality for you.

    An expose on so called, vaccine derived herd immunity.

    Millions of adults were never re-vaccinated since being school age. I have not had a vaccine in 43 years now. Where are the epidemics? Where exists your so called vaccine derived herd immunity? It does not exist, use your head and think for yourself. If at least 90% of the population needs to be vaccinated to acquire so called herd immunity; where does that exist? True natural immunity is the ONLY thing can achieve it and that leads to real herd immunity.

    Herd immunity does exist but that which is through naturally acquiring the illness; and referring to vaccinated for illnesses as diseases, is literally mindless and as human disease is a ongoing situation often with no cure, or full recovery. Any pro-vaccine argument based on vaccine derived herd immunity is based on something which doesn’t exist, and here are 4 reason why it doesn’t work.

    1. The antibody production resultant from a live attenuated virus is of lesser capacity and for lesser duration. She states: “The herd-immunity concept is based on a faulty assumption that vaccination elicits in an individual a state equivalent to bona fide immunity (life-long resistance to viral infection).”

    2. Secondary to individual biochemistry and genomics, a significant percentage of those vaccinated will not mount an anticipated antibody response. Repeatedly revaccinating these non-responders does not improve the efficacy of the vaccine intervention – second, third, and fourth boosters will not bring these individuals into the herd.

    3. Those who have been vaccinated can manifest “modified” versions of the infective illness, but remain undiagnosed because of their vaccinated status, may transmit to contacts. This has also been demonstrated, notably, in the case of pertussis, discussed here.

    4. As those who are naturally infected and sustainably protected begin to die off, and the vast majority of our communities undergo immunologic manipulation by the vaccine schedule, we are priming a population for large epidemics of likely more treatment resistant strains – “it is not vaccine-exempt children who endanger us all, it is the effects of prolonged mass-vaccination campaigns that have done so.”

    Herd Immunity vs. Viral Shedding: Who’s Infecting Whom?

    Big Pharma and the Medical Establishment use the idea of herd immunity to induce fear and sell vaccines, yet viral shedding puts the notion on its head.
    Herd immunity,

    or community immunity as it is also known, is one of the main arguments that “pro-vaxxers” (those advocating vaccination) advance to persuade people to take vaccines. Herd immunity, so it is claimed, provides indirect protection to the unvaccinated. How? Here’s how the reasoning goes: if enough people get vaccinated, when a contagious disease hits a community, it spreads less quickly than if the majority were not vaccinated, since they are now protected. Thus, those unvaccinated few living among the vaccinated many can now enjoy some protection because the disease is finding it harder to spread and infect new individuals. This argument has many assumptions and flaws, as we shall see.

    Interestingly enough, in recent times a concept that is essentially the opposite of herd immunity – i.e. viral shedding – has been in the news. You see, people using the argument of herd immunity generally claim that the unvaccinated help speed the spread of a disease, even encompassing those who got vaccinated. In other words, the unvaccinated can infect the vaccinated. The phenomenon of viral shedding, on the other hand, is showing that those who get vaccines get the virus in their body – even if it’s weak or attenuated – and the virus then sheds, can become contagious and can start spreading. In other words, the vaccinated can infect the unvaccinated. So which is the more true concept: herd immunity or viral shedding? Who’s infecting whom?

    Vaccine-Induced Herd Immunity is Full of Assumptions

    To get to the bottom of this question, you need to take a close look at this notion of herd immunity. It contains the following assumptions:

    Read more:
    http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/herd-immunity-vs-viral-shedding/

    ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY-TWO (and counting) scientific studies on vaccines and SHEDDING:
    http://medscienceresearch.com/shedding/

    Herd Immunity: Junk Science at its Finest
    Herd Immunity Never Applied to Vaccine Induced Immunity
    The original definition of herd immunity applied to the protective effect that occurred when a population contracted and recovered naturally from infections. Natural immunity lasts a lifetime whereas vaccine induced immunity does not.
    https://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/the-herd-immunity-myth-and-how-it-pits-parent-against-parent/

    The Deadly Impossibility Of Herd Immunity Through Vaccination, by Dr. Russell Blaylock
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/02/18/the-deadly-impossibility-of-herd-immunity-through-vaccination-by-dr-russell-blaylock/

    Dr Russell Blaylock Ive Proven Herd Immunity is a Total Fraud
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-11So6aptU

    VaxXed Tour: Forrest and Dr. Suzanne on Herd Immunity
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yICqrpK5Kyc

    Med Science Research
    There are thousands of scientific studies in the medical literature on the dangers of vaccines.
    http://medscienceresearch.com/

  • This is actually where you left off and there were two studies that I posted with that.

    [Karl Wegner MD Lowell Hubbs • 7 days ago
    They didn’t use controls, Lowell.
    And as you know, non-polio AFP isn’t due to OPV. We have NP-AFP in the US. We don’t use OPV.
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    How dense are you, when you know that you have had that said controls issue regarding the “Aluminium in Brain Tissue in Autism” study, directly and specifically addressed on the current articles, replies? And yet you ignore that, and like it never happened. You now look more foolish than you could have ever imagined.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You’re saying you posted 2 studies with the same title? And regarding the lack of controls, you can apologize for them all day and it doesn’t make their study notable in any way.

  • Patient advocates as well work to get issues resolved, and where a clinic is unprofessional, rude, and/or not doing their job. The results of that always worked well for me, when needed.

    David Gorski is a twisted and lying blogger that rabidly attacks any form of vaccine and modern medicine truth; and as well alternative treatments. He is nothing but a quack masquerading as a man of science and when he has no study science . He clearly deserves every bad review that he gets.

  • Because I clearly and obviously have a real identity here, and you do not. That is the difference. Your demand for a photo copy of my drivers license is nothing more than your own deflecting harassment. What do you want to know, where I live? You should already know that. Describe for me what you are after? Can’t do it can you, and as you know that said demand was pointless?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You’re an idiot Lowell.
    And you’d post negative reviews of me in a heartbeat. But I couldn’t do the same to you because meat cutters don’t have review sites do they?

  • What??? We all know what the route of administration is, vaccines. Go ahead and explain your stupidity; this should be a good one.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    I’m just showing everyone what a coward you are. And I’d like to know if you’re still allowed to drive:)

  • You know what you need to do to get an answer.

  • For you to have the honesty and the guts to provide one. Answer the question. You know that you babbling nothing but nonsense. But then with your disqus account they can tally up the number of replies you made and pay you anyway.

  • Again, how is it that in your hypocrisy that you have no identity, using the false identity of a deceased doctor; and yet you claim and think that I am the coward, and that when I obviously use a real identity? Your replies here have become nothing but false, baseless, and deliberate harassment. I have a SD drivers license and that is all you need to know. What state is your own drivers license in?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Prove it.

  • Actually the real data shows that you are the REAL child abuser, and the parents have suffered false charges as well. You deny what vaccines have actually done.

    The vitamin C cure for diseases, SIDS, and falsely accused shaken baby syndrome, after vaccines.

    Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS): Major Causes are Known but Ignored – Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) and its Major Causes Part I
    https://healthimpactnews.com/2014/sudden-infant-death-syndrome-sids-major-causes-are-known-but-ignored/

    Tissue Scurvy Misdiagnosed as Shaken Baby Syndrome Homicide
    Michael D. Innis, Tissue Scurvy Misdiagnosed as Shaken Baby Syndrome Homicide, Clinical Medicine Research. Vol. 3, No. 1, 2014, pp. 6-8. doi: 10.11648/j.cmr.20140301.12

    Abstract
    “Tissue Scurvy” is an autoimmune disorder in which there is an abundance of Vitamin C in the body(unlike the Seafarer Scurvy of yesteryear) but it is inhibited from entering the tissue cells to perform its functions of maintaining the integrity of the blood vessels and skeletal tissue and partaking in several enzymatic reactions because of the lack of insulin which is essential for the transfer of Vitamin C into the cell. The result is the development of fractures, hemorrhages and other lesions of Scurvy. Here it is shown a child alleged to have been murdered by being shaken to death was found to have hyperglycemia, implying insulin deficiency and concomitant Tissue Scurvy. It is concluded that the diagnosis Shaken Baby Syndrome, and all examples of unexplained fractures, bruises, retinal and subdural hemorrhages with encephalopathy – the so-called “TRIAD” – are in fact an autoimmune disorder following antigenic stimulation in a genetically susceptible child. Vaccines administered within 4 weeks of the onset of symptoms are the most common cause. The Shaken Baby Syndrome is a fabricated diagnosis and has no place in medical jurisprudence.

    http://www.sciencepublishinggroup.com/journal/paperinfo.aspx?journalid=151&doi=10.11648/j.cmr.20140301.12

    Tissue Scurvy Misdiagnosed as Shaken Baby Syndrome Homicide

    Full text: Excerpts

    2. Case History

    The child was born on the 9th May 2011 by normal
    vaginal delivery following a 41 week gestation period. Her
    Apgar scores were 9 at 1 minute and 10 at 5 minutes and
    she weighed 3.3kg. She was given an injection of Vitamin
    K.

    She was seen by the Health Visitor on 20th May 2011and
    was found to have an infected finger which healed by the
    next visit on 31st May 2011. Her weight was 3310 gm
    On 3rd June 2011 she had an episode of difficulty in
    breathing and was examined in Accident and Emergency
    and the mother given advice but no form of medicinal
    therapy was administered. She received the first primary
    immunization of childhood on 8th July 2011.

    In January 2012 she developed an ear infection and on
    26th March 2012 a bruise was noticed on the tip of the
    pinna of one ear. No Laboratory Investigations were done.
    She was vaccinated with the MMR, Hib and
    Meningococcal C vaccines on the 23rd May 2012 and a
    week later, on 1st June 2012, she was taken to the Boston
    Pilgrim Hospital where a Consultant Pediatrician found a
    5cm X 5cm boggy bruise on her head, subconjunctival
    hemorrhages in the left eye and what was thought to be a
    “human bite mark” on the posterior aspect of the left leg.
    No neurological lesions were seen and there were no retinal
    hemorrhages.

    Social workers and Police were informed and after a
    short stay in the home of the grandparents she was returned
    to her family and visited by her Health Visitor on the 26th
    July 2012 who found no concerns. There is no record of
    any coagulation studies having been done inspite of the fact
    that a cephalo-hematoma (boggy swelling on the head) is a
    “herald lesion” anticipating the onset of a
    catastrophichemorrhagic disaster [4].

    3. Post-Mortem Examination
    The essential lesions were swelling of the brain, retinal
    hemorrhages and detachment in both eyes. No external
    injuries were found

    The brain and spinal cord was said to show evidence of
    old and recent injury. The old injury was represented by the
    presence of a subdural hematoma over the brain and spinal
    cord of several weeks to months’ duration and bilateral
    contusions in the parasagittal region of the posterior frontal
    lobe with some histological appearances consistent with
    several days to weeks’ duration.

    The recent head injury, it was claimed, was demonstrated
    by the presence of a recent hematoma over the brain and
    spinal cord with localized axonal injury to the cortico-spinal
    tracts of medulla and axonal injury to the spinal nerve roots.
    There was generalized ischemia in the brain involving
    cortex white matter, deep grey matter, cerebellum,
    hypocampus and spinal cord.

    The cause of death was attributed to “Shaken Baby
    Syndrome”. The care giver was arrested, charged with
    murder, tried, convicted and imprisoned.

    4. Discussion
    Both Dr Archie Kalokerinos [6] and Professor Alan
    Clemetson [7] realized many years ago that what doctors
    were calling Shaken Baby Syndrome was in fact a
    manifestation of Infantile Scurvy. As stated above Dr
    Kalokerinos records his court encounter with a prosecutor
    at the trial of a mother accused of murder who claimed
    “Scurvy does not exist anymore” to which he replied. “yes
    it does but now you call it Shaken Baby Syndrome”.
    Relevant to the child’s illness on June 2nd 2012is the fact
    that she was vaccinated with the MMR, Hib and
    Meningococcal C vaccines on the 23rd May 2012and a
    week later, on 1st June 2012 she was taken to the Boston
    Pilgrim Hospital where a Consultant Pediatrician found a
    5cm X 5cm boggy bruise on her head, subconjunctival
    hemorrhages in the left eye and what was thought to be a
    human bite mark on the posterior aspect of left leg.
    Coagulation studies were done and showed APTT
    39.6.seconds, Prothrombin Time 15.0 seconds and Platelet
    count 697 x 109/L.

    These results are decidedly abnormal
    when compared with the Normal ranges of the Children’s
    Hospital at Great Ormond Street and they indicate the child
    has a Coagulation Disorder which would explain the
    hemorrhages and the “human bite”.

    Liver Function Test results, which are invariably abnormal
    in this condition were not done or if done have not been sent
    to me. With regard to treatment an immediate IM injection of
    Vitamin K and an IV injection of Vitamin C would have
    possibly reversed the process when the child presented at the
    Princess of Wales Hospital but it appears no such treatment
    was given in spite of the fact that the coagulation studies
    clearly indicated the need for such action.

    The observation of two hematomas of different ages at
    the post-mortem can be explained by the fact that on March
    26th2012 a bruise was noticed on the tip of the pinna of one
    ear. This lesion is often the result of a nutritional deficiency
    of Vitamin C and it is highly probable that the earlier
    hematoma was another manifestation of the same process –
    Tissue Scurvy. This would also explain the radiological
    findings. No Laboratory Investigations were done when the
    bruise was noticed which is very unusual and an
    opportunity to treat the disorder was missed.
    The suggestion that “the most likely explanation of the
    child’s presentation is likely to have involved shaking” is a
    view which has been debunked. Nowhere in the enormous
    amount of literature on the subject of the Shaken Baby
    Syndrome [8-18] have the authors explained how shaking
    an infant can raise the level of the blood sugar or cause
    glucose to appear in the urine

    These are not changes produced by shaking the child,
    they are proved to be the result of an Autoimmune Reaction
    following vaccination of a genetically susceptible child.
    The results of tests for Liver Function have not been
    provided in the material sent to me. Truth withheld is
    Justice denied. These results will undoubtedly be abnormal
    because the Prothrombin Time of 15 seconds is outside the
    normal upper limit of 14.1 reported by Great Ormond
    Street Hospital. An APTT of 39.6 seconds is also evidence
    of a defective coagulation mechanism accounting for all the
    child’s problems.

    5. Conclusion
    The accusation of Shaken Baby Syndrome is a misdiagnosis. The evidence proves an Autoimmune Reaction to vaccines administered on 23rd May 2012 was the cause of death. The diagnosis Shaken Baby Syndrome was suggested by a neurosurgeon without the slightest scientific evidence to support it and an innocent carer is in prison accused of Murder.

    The remedy lies in educating doctors to recognize Tissue Scurvy

    http://article.sciencepublishinggroup.com/pdf/10.11648.j.cmr.20140301.12.pdf

    Clinical Medicine Research
    Vol. 3, No. 1, 2014, pp. 6-8. doi: 10.11648/j.cmr.20140301.12

    Tissue scurvy misdiagnosed as shaken baby syndrome
    homicide – Michael D. Innis, Retired Haematologist Princess Alexandra Hospital Brisbane Australia

    Abstract: “Tissue Scurvy” is an autoimmune disorder in which there is an abundance of Vitamin C in the body(unlike the Seafarer Scurvy of yesteryear) but it is inhibited from entering the tissue cells to perform its functions of maintaining the integrity of the blood vessels and skeletal tissue and partaking in several enzymatic reactions because of the lack of insulin which is essential for the transfer of Vitamin C into the cell. The result is the development of fractures, hemorrhages and other lesions of Scurvy. Here it is shown a child alleged to have been murdered by being shaken to death was found to have hyperglycemia, implying insulin deficiency and concomitant Tissue Scurvy. It is concluded that the diagnosis Shaken Baby Syndrome, and all examples of unexplained fractures, bruises, retinal and subdural hemorrhages with encephalopathy – the so-called “TRIAD” – are in fact an autoimmune disorder following antigenic stimulation in a genetically susceptible child. Vaccines administered within 4 weeks of the onset of symptoms are the most common cause. The Shaken Baby Syndrome is a fabricated diagnosis and has no place in medical jurisprudence.

    http://jeffreydachmd.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Tissue-scurvy-misdiagnosed-as-shaken-baby-syndrome-Michael-Innis-2014.pdf

    Journal source:
    http://www.sciencepublishinggroup.com/journal/paperinfo.aspx?journalid=151&doi=10.11648/j.cmr.20140301.12

    Shaken Baby Syndrome Imprisonment by Misdiagnosis
    Jeffrey Dach MD (Referenced as well to other good articles and studies)
    http://jeffreydachmd.com/2015/06/shaken-baby-syndrome-imprisonment-by-misdiagnosis/

    Vaccines, Apparent Life-Threatening Events,
    Barlow’s Disease, and Questions about
    “Shaken Baby Syndrome” Michael D. Innis
    http://www.jpands.org/vol11no1/innis.pdf

    Every Second Child Paperback – September, 1981
    by Archie Kalokerinos (Author)
    http://www.amazon.com/Every-Second-Child-Archie-Kalokerinos/dp/0879832509

    AN INTERVIEW WITH DR. ARCHIE KALOKERINOS MD
    http://www.vaccinationinformationnetwork.com/an-interview-with-dr-archie-kalokerinos-md/

    The Answer to Crib Death
    “Sudden Infant Death Syndrome” (SIDS)
    Joseph G. Hattersley 1
    http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/199x/hattersley-jg-j_orthomol_med-1993-v8-n4-p229.htm

    Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS): Major Causes are Known but Ignored
    http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/sudden-infant-death-syndrome-sids-major-causes-are-known-but-ignored/

    Acta Paediatr. 2009 Nov; 98(11): 1768–1775.
    doi: 10.1111/j.1651-2227.2009.01476.x
    PMCID: PMC2773533
    Cholinergic and oxidative stress mechanisms in sudden infant death syndrome

    Lower AChE levels and higher combined levels of iron and vitamin C in the first 6 months of life may augment cholinergic and oxidative stress effect, particularly at the age when SIDS is most prevalent. This may contribute to risk of ALTE and SIDS/SUDI events during infancy.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2773533/

    Vaccines are NOT the cause of SIDS…except when the federal government says they are and compensates parents accordingly (this is a ruling from last month, July 2017):

    “After carefully analyzing and weighing all of the evidence and testimony presented in this case in accordance with the applicable legal standards, the undersigned finds that petitioners have met their legal burden. Petitioners have put forth preponderant evidence that the vaccines J.B. received on September 2, 2011 actually caused or substantially contributed to his death from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome. Furthermore, respondent has failed to put forth preponderant evidence that J.B.’s death was in fact caused by factors unrelated to the vaccines. Accordingly, petitioners are entitled to compensation.”

    https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2013vv0611-73-0

    Eradicate Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) Now!
    http://www.healthy-again.net/sids.htm

    Sudden Infant Death Syndrome and The Vitamin C Connection

    In 1774, it was discovered that sudden infant death syndrome, which is closely linked to acute infantile scurvy, is preventable in nearly all cases. Dr. James Lind, a Scottish physician of the British Navy, conducted experiments concluding that citrus fruits cured scurvy. He wrote the following about scurvy (vitamin C deficiency):

    “Persons that appear to be but slightly scorbutic are apt to be suddenly and unexpectedly seized with some of its worst symptoms. Their dropping down dead upon an exertion of their strength or change of air is not easily foretold.”

    The resemblance between these symptoms and S.I.D.S. is not merely coincidental. While the name, sudden infant death syndrome is relatively new; this identifiable pattern of sudden death has been around for a long time, and the methods of preventing it were known centuries ago.

    Dr. Archie Kalokerinos volunteered to undertake the mission of reducing the rate of S.I.D.S. amongst aboriginal people in the opal mining region of Australia. At the time, approximately 50% of all aboriginal infants died of sudden infant death syndrome. He found that almost all of them were terribly deficient in vitamin C, so he provided them with supplementation. None of the infants died from S.I.D.S following the supplementation.

    Read more:
    http://healthwyze.org/index.php/component/content/article/161-sudden-infant-death-syndrome-and-the-vitamin-c-connection.html

    Published: March 20, 2015
    Shaken science
    A disputed diagnosis imprisons parents
    Prosecutors build murder cases on disputed Shaken Baby Syndrome diagnosis
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/shaken-baby-syndrome/

    And how many falsely accused parents and caregivers, do we yet need to get out of prisons?

    March 23, 2015
    When babies die, a disputed diagnosis sends parents to prison for abuse

    For decades, when a child appeared in an emergency room with certain symptoms, including bleeding behind the eyes and bleeding around the brain, many doctors assumed violent shaking to be the cause. But in recent years, the Shaken Baby Syndrome diagnosis has come under intense scrutiny, and so have many of the resulting prosecutions and convictions. Special correspondent Jackie Judd reports.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/babies-die-disputed-diagnosis-sends-parents-prison-abuse/

    Shaking: “A False and Flawed Premise” (Lots of info here)
    http://onsbs.com/2015/02/09/shaking-a-false-and-flawed-premise/

    Child Abuse or Rickets?
    A Special Interview with Dr. David Ayoub
    By Dr. Joseph Mercola
    http://jeffreydachmd.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Child-Abuse-or-Rickets-Interview-David-Ayoub.pdf

    New Film Exposes Shaken Baby Syndrome Myth – Opponents Want to Silence it at Film Festivals
    http://medicalkidnap.com/2015/03/11/new-film-exposes-shaken-baby-syndrome-myth-opponents-want-to-silence-it-at-film-festivals/

    THE SYNDROME
    a feature investigative documentary
    http://thesyndromefilm.com/

    May 28, 2015
    Mainstream Media Finally Exposing Shaken Baby Syndrome as False Diagnosis – How Many Innocent Parents Have Suffered?
    http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/mainstream-media-finally-exposing-shaken-baby-syndrome-as-false-diagnosis-how-many-innocent-parents-have-suffered/

    Is Shaken Baby Syndrome Often Misdiagnosed and Caused by Vaccine-Induced Rickets? http://medicalkidnap.com/2015/01/06/is-shaken-baby-syndrome-often-misdiagnosed-and-caused-by-vaccine-induced-rickets/

    Many Experts Have Discredited Shaken Baby Syndrome. So Why Is Maria Mendez Still in Prison?
    http://www.laweekly.com/news/many-experts-have-discredited-shaken-baby-syndrome-so-why-is-maria-mendez-still-in-prison-4137146

    At least half of all parents tried over shaken baby syndrome have been wrongly convicted, expert warns
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1382290/At-half-parents-tried-shaken-baby-syndrome-wrongly-convicted-expert-warns.html

    New Study Shows US Prosecution “Hot Spots” of Parents Gaoled for Battered Babies They Did Not Batter Shake or Injure: New Paper “Autoimmune Tissue Scurvy Misdiagnosed as Child Abuse”
    https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/new-study-shows-us-prosecution-hot-spots-of-parents-gaoled-for-battered-babies-they-did-not-batter-shake-or-injure-new-paper-autoimmune-tissue-scurvy-misdiagnosed-as-child-abuse/

    Conversations With Dr. A. Norman Guthkelch
    Dr. Norman Guthkelch, October 2012

    Retired pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. A. Norman Guthkelch was the first person to propose in print, in the British Medical Journal in 1971, that shaking an infant could cause subdural hematoma. He is now trying to straighten out what he considers a “horrifying” misinterpretation of his work in court.

    Read more:
    http://onsbs.com/2014/08/20/conversations-with-dr-a-norman-guthkelch/

    The evidence base for shaken baby syndrome
    We need to question the diagnostic criteria
    J F Geddes, retired (formerly reader in clinical neuropathology, Queen Mary, University of London)
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC381308/

    SIDS Listed As Adverse Reaction on DTaP Vaccine Insert plus others
    http://vaccinecommonsense.com/2016/02/04/sids-listed-as-adverse-reaction-on-dtap-vaccine-insert/

    Shaken Baby Syndrome:

    Vaccine Cover Up
    That Can Land You in Jail
    Ground Breaking Information You Need
    To Keep Your Family Safe!

    http://drrimatruthreports.com/sbs_webinar.html

  • No, actually that is factual data that you obviously do not have the honesty to review, and nor the cognitive level of common sense to understand it.

  • You aren’t even a doctor and if you are why didn’t you use your real name instead of that of a dead doctor. I wouldn’t waste the time to write a review on you, believe me. Does Sanford Pediatrics have a review site, maybe I could find you there? Has that arrogant and vaccine crazy buddy of yours Shawn Vuong been around there lately, or is he still in Cincinnati?

  • No, one study was on the AFP situation in India, and the other was in regard to the aluminum study issue. You are nothing but a false smack talking liar. Everyone can see that.

  • Again, for what stated reason, and point? My profile picture shows me driving a car; do you think I would have any reason to not have a drivers license? How foolish would that be?

  • cecilia

    I’m not kidding, my browser identifies that link as suspect.

    (fortunately, I use Linux so I’m not in danger of any viruses – much like getting vaccinated, my system is safe :-) )

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Your picture shows you sitting in a car.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So you copy/pasted a study on AFP in India titled “Aluminium in Brain Tissue in Autism”? That’s what you’re saying.

  • That is only because the last word in his sentence has no gap between it and the reference url. Nothing is suspect only due to that. Why did you not have the common sense to just google the title?

    Confirmed India’s Polio Eradication Campaign Caused 47,500 Cases of Vaccine-Induced Polio Paralysis
    https://realfarmacy.com/confirmed-indias-polio-eradication-campaign-caused-47500-cases-of-vaccine-induced-polio-paralysis/

    Confirmed: India’s Polio Eradication Campaign in 2011 Caused 47,500 Cases of Vaccine-Induced Polio Paralysis
    https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/08/28/polio-eradication-campaign.aspx

    Indian J Med Ethics. 2012 Apr-Jun;9(2):114-7.
    Polio programme: let us declare victory and move on.

    Vashisht N1, Puliyel J.
    Author information
    Abstract
    It was hoped that following polio eradication, immunisation could be stopped. However the synthesis of polio virus in 2002, made eradication impossible. It is argued that getting poor countries to expend their scarce resources on an impossible dream over the last 10 years was unethical. Furthermore, while India has been polio-free for a year, there has been a huge increase in non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP). In 2011, there were an extra 47,500 new cases of NPAFP. Clinically indistinguishable from polio paralysis but twice as deadly, the incidence of NPAFP was directly proportional to doses of oral polio received. Though this data was collected within the polio surveillance system, it was not investigated. The principle of primum-non-nocere was violated. The authors suggest that the huge bill of US$ 8 billion spent on the programme, is a small sum to pay if the world learns to be wary of such vertical programmes in the future.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22591873

    Polio-like disease in the news: much ado about nothing?
    Mohammadi D.Lancet Neurol. 2014.1 comment
    Neetu Vashisht 2015 May 31
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/myncbi/neetu.vashisht.1/comments/

    The Ugly Truth About Polio

    Polio has not been eradicated at all. And will not be eradicated.
    Polio has been renamed….

    Why have Acute Flaccid Paralysis and Polio been put together? Because Acute Flaccid Paralysis is a catch-all name for what looks like polio, and what you call polio when the crucial polio viral tests don’t show polio VIRUSES at all. ….While the cases of “polio” have gone down, cases of polio which didn’t return a positive virus test, and which are now called “Acute Flaccid Paralysis” have skyrocketed.

    Read more:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/3b5nqx/the_ugly_truth_about_polio/

    Acute Flaccid Paralysis (AFP) surveillance: the surveillance strategy for poliomyelitis eradication
    http://www.searo.who.int/india/topics/poliomyelitis/acute_flaccid_paralysis_surveillance.pdf

    BILL GATES AND 47,500 CASES OF PARALYSIS
    https://www.infowars.com/bill-gates-and-47500-cases-of-paralysis/

    How it happens.

    J Korean Med Sci. 2007 Apr;22(2):362-4.
    Vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis: a case report of flaccid monoparesis after oral polio vaccine.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2693609/

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Because…you and other AVs would call my place of work and post fake reviews on doctor rating websites. Did you already forget that?

  • And you really are that falsely harassing, demented, and asinine. Of course not. The post is about 17 posts above this one, 7 days ago. Go actually read it. The two issues were clearly addressed separately.

  • You were already told I have no interest in that, and nor to waste my time with such a pointless effort. Did you forget that? I am getting more than bored and tired of reading of your false and paranoid excuses to remain a coward.

  • Which I have owned and driven.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You could have a picture of you sitting in the space shuttle.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    And you lie all day long too. Tell me who I could possibly be and what credentials I could possibly have that would change your ignorant thoughts about vaccination. (you won’t)

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So are you saying you know what study we’re supposed to be talking about now?

  • Karl, if you persist along this line you will be permanently removed from the site. Posting personal information in the comment section is against the terms of use of the website. Thanks.

  • I have always known what studies we are talking about, however your sick twisted shill game playing was nothing but the typical and classic deception that I have seen attempted time and time again, by other shills. It is simply a distraction and disruption tactic that you use and because you really can’t further address anything at all.

  • Your question is pointless and irrelevant. What part of this do you not get? MD’s and Pediatricians have no real training at all in regard the biological and physiological effect of vaccines. Most don’t even know what is on the ingredients list. They don’t know what the contaminants are or even how they got there. They are literally quack doctors that simply got told in medical school to vaccinate, end of story.

    Here listen to it for yourself and what doctors state about their said training in regard to vaccines. It is nearly nonexistent.

    How much does Medical School teach about Vaccines?

    Six doctors who have administered vaccines in their practiced are all asked the same question. When you were in medical school, how much education regarding vaccines was provided before you were permitted to administer them?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rp9YNMNlxQ

    Are Doctors Experts On Vaccines?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM0Br6YXlEA

    “Consult Your Doctor” on Vaccines? Medical Doctors Receive Little to No Training on Vaccines in Medical School
    https://vaccineimpact.com/2016/consult-your-doctor-on-vaccines-medical-doctors-receive-little-to-no-training-on-vaccines-in-medical-school/

    How Much Is Taught on Vaccines In Medical School? Forrest Maready
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buQvtnQ7VXA

    And the profits help keep it all rolling.

    How Much Money Do Pediatricians Really Make From Vaccines?

    So how much money do doctors really make from vaccines? The average American pediatrician has 1546 patients, though some pediatricians see many more. The vast majority of those patients are very young, perhaps because children transition to a family physician or stop visiting the doctor at all as they grow up. As they table above explains, Blue Cross Blue Shield pays pediatricians $400 per fully vaccinated child. If your pediatrician has just 100 fully-vaccinated patients turning 2 this year, that’s $40,000. Yes, Blue Cross Blue Shield pays your doctor a $40,000 bonus for fully vaccinating 100 patients under the age of 2. If your doctor manages to fully vaccinate 200 patients, that bonus jumps to $80,000.

    But here’s the catch: Under Blue Cross Blue Shield’s rules, pediatricians lose the whole bonus unless at least 63% of patients are fully vaccinated, and that includes the flu vaccine. So it’s not just $400 on your child’s head–it could be the whole bonus. To your doctor, your decision to vaccinate your child might be worth $40,000, or much more, depending on the size of his or her practice.

    If your pediatrician recommends that your child under the age of 2 receive the flu vaccine–even though the flu vaccine has never been studied in very young children and evidence suggests that the flu vaccine actually weakens a person’s immune system over the long term–ask yourself: Is my doctor more concerned with selling me vaccines to keep my child healthy or to send his child to private school?

    Read more:
    https://wellnessandequality.com/2016/06/20/how-much-money-do-pediatricians-really-make-from-vaccines/

    The Unknown Reasons Doctors Push Vaccines

    Blue Cross, Blue Shield, Blue Care Network of Michigan publishes online a shameless and bold report of how much cash they reward physicians for performing certain tests, and which apparently acts as an incentive to over-prescribe, thus inflating the costs of U.S. healthcare, which should be illegal.

    Blue Cross/Blue Shield published the 2016 Performance Recognition Program, a 28-page report indicating how medical insurance companies actually increase the costs of healthcare!

    Look what we find on the BC/BS page “Childhood Immunizations—Combo 10”!

    If MDs meet a target of 63% of eligible member patients, they will receive a payout of $400 per completed eligible member. Wow! Now you know one of the key reasons why parents are hounded to vaccinate their infants and toddlers. Gelt, pecunia, greenbacks—whatever you call M-O-N-E-Y.

    Read MORE:
    http://www.activistpost.com/2017/08/unknown-reasons-doctors-push-vaccines.html

    When Federal Grants Come With Vaccine Mandates
    http://www.activistpost.com/2017/04/federal-grants-come-vaccine-mandates.html

    On the Crime of Heresy Against the Vaccine Religion
    by Jeremy R. Hammond | Apr 29, 2017
    https://www.jeremyrhammond.com/2017/04/29/on-the-crime-of-heresy-against-the-vaccine-religion/

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Can you tell Lowell Hubbs to stop asking for everyone’s name and place of work please?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So what study (not studies) are we talking about? I just want to make sure you’re on track now.

  • Lic No. 00818052 SD. Go to the cop shop and ask them to look up who that belongs to.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Like I said you won’t answer the question. If you can’t even imagine how my name and credentials could change your archaic opinion on vaccines why in the world do you need to know either?

  • You most recently said, Aluminium in brain tissue in autism. Everyone here can as well easily see that I have been addressing that study repeatedly with you. Your point is?

  • I just addressed that directly. So what is your problem; you don’t like, and nor can you deal with the answer, and so you demand a different answer?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Well unfortunately the moderator has asked me to stop this line of questioning.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Great sources as always Lowell.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You simply said the question was pointless. I’ll ask it again…why would I give you personal information knowing it won’t change your opinion? What’s in it for me? (you won’t answer)

  • Because it would clearly show your level of conflict of interest, that is why. That is important in showing your credibility level, and directly. Although everyone here can already see that you have no honesty and nor credibility, it would add to the final nail put in that conclusion. There is another issue as well, and that is clearly that you and by your replies, appear to have had a vendetta against me beginning in and since 2009, and some connections with things that have been going on, and since then. I want you to stop being a coward, and face me face to face. You are again, to much of a coward.

  • And you are yet unable to address and refute even one word of that information. Your great sources are the for profit corrupt Offit, Pediatrrics, CDC and WHO. How unimpressive is that?

  • So actually he saved you from this, just in time.

  • Ron Roy

    Liar: http://legaljustice4john.com/shakenBabyKalokerinos.htm
    “It was similar with the measles vaccination. They went through Africa,
    South America and elsewhere, and vaccinated sick and starving children…They thought they
    were wiping out measles, but most of those susceptible to measles died from some other
    disease that they developed as a result of being vaccinated. The vaccination reduced their
    immune levels and acted like an infection. Many got septicaemia, gastro-enteritis,
    etcetera, or made their nutritional status worse and they died from malnutrition. So there
    were very few susceptible infants left alive to get measles. It’s one way to get good
    statistics, kill all those that are susceptible, which is what they literally did.”
    –Dr Kalokerinos, M.D. Dr Kalokerinos
    interview——-International Vaccine Newsletter June 1995

  • shay simmons

    And…you keep proving my point.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Well since it won’t change your mind I don’t see any reason to give personal information. Besides, Jeffry just said, “Posting personal information in the comment section is against the terms of use of the website.”

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Lol listen to you. Natural news? You don’t have the education or background to figure out good sources from bad.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Wonder how he knew about it.

  • Of course a moderator here would never be reading your replies.

  • It surely looks here to be that I am far more educated than you. Again your brain remains marinated in mix of cognitive dissonance, denial, and a refusal to learn. And you actually claim that the CDC is an accurate source of information? The CDC is one of the most non-credible, biased, and corrupt organizations on earth; and as well directly in bed with big pharma.

  • That does not stop you from posting with a real name and identity, and instead of a fake one. I never directly asked for your personal information. Is there ever any end to your twisted claims?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    He’s your guardian angel Lowell. How many messages have you sent him about me so far?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Hmm…the CDC vs Mike Adams the supplement scammer. You are a riot Lowell.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    “Posting personal information in the comment section is against the terms of use of the website.”

  • He hasn’t actually scammed anything. The real QUACK, is you.

  • None.

  • You have already done that and attempted that, regarding me. You are such a hypocrite. Posting replies using your real name is not against the rules. I have done it for years.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    I don’t have an online supplement sales site disguised as a fake news site. I am educated enough to recognize one though.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    lol sure thing

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Like Jeffry said, you’ll need to stop that kind of questioning Lowell or face being permanently banned from Vactruth.

  • What, kind of questioning? You are being questioned, really? Again, you are such a twisted hypocrite. Simply stating that your credibility level is as well determined by your lack of using a real name and identity; that is not against any rules here. In your case, you use the false and the fake identity of a deceased doctor. That is simply beyond weird, and repulsive in itself. Coming for someone like yourself that rightfully should have been banned on this site already months ago; to claim that I will be banned and with the truth I put forth, is literally asinine. I will never be banned from this site, and as much as your mind mad hate produces any delusion of that in your head.

  • Your evidence?

  • You sure have a twisted and beyond warped view of everything that exists.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Why do you think you’d be able to ask for personal information from people, against the rules of this site, and not be banned?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Why else would the moderator get involved?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    That’s just how natural news is Lowell. It’s sad you don’t get that.

  • If you say so then why can you not offer any refute to anything Natural News puts forth? That is what is really sad and true. Just admit that you are the real, QUACK. You talk a lot of BS and mindless trash, and with nothing to back it up.

  • Are you to ignorant to comprehend that is what a moderator does, and that is what they are for? So you think that vactruth gets zero moderation.

  • You “asked” for personal information, I did not. I simply told you to grow some balls and use a real identity instead of a fake MD identity, and that in regard to your profile.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Everything natural news posts is fake Lowell. You go and find the most truthful article you think you can find and I’ll destroy it. But you don’t have the balls to do that either.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Seems like it.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Lying again. You constantly ask for my identity and place of work. Funny how when I ask you for personal information suddenly the moderator steps in. I guess it’s just a coincidence huh?

  • I didn’t ask for anything, I simply told you what I think. Again, I did not ask for your place of work, I simply told you what I think. You were simply asked to provide a real name identity and instead of the fake identity that you have. You harassed me and for days on end about providing a screen shot of my drivers license, and before any moderation stepped in. You have it all twisted and backwards, as always.

  • No one takes any of the BS that you post here, seriously. Your only attainable goal and hope left is that some fellow pro-vax shills will put another like on your posts.

  • That said and bullshit claim, is a straight up lie. You don’t even have as clue.

    Lets start with their most recent article.

    More than half of baby food products contaminated with toxic heavy metals
    https://www.naturalhealth365.com/baby-food-infant-formula-2384.html

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Are you actually claiming you didn’t repeatedly ask for my name and place of work? Lying come really easy to you doesn’t it?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    This is the only site you post on because the moderator protects you here Lowell.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    As easy as it would be to show how fake that article is it isn’t from natural news.

  • Naturalhealh365 is directly connected to the Natural News site, the only difference is that Mike Adams co-partner Jonathan Landsman, is the editor.

    Ok, if you don’t like that, then move on to this article.

    Vitamin C outperforms vaccines
    https://www.naturalnews.com/049146_vitamin_C_vaccines_natural_health.html

  • The actual reality of that is that I post on may articles locally, and that there is rarely and simply not any longer any considered as more major media articles out there, that allow reply posting on them. I don’t waste my time with the sick and twisted Gorski and SR blogs. Anyone with even half a brain knows that no one goes there that is actually looking for the real truth. All it is is a rats nest of sick shills there that keep patting themselves on the back for all the misinformation and lies they promote. The only thing going on there is a connection to the mislead medical community so they can keep telling themselves in error what a great job that they continue doing. They are delusional and just like you are.

  • You can twist the words around all you want, but again no; what you were asked for was to simply provide a real identity in regard to your profile.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Jesus Lowell, the title is “Vitamin C outperforms vaccines”, then fails to even mention vaccines until the last sentence. But Mikey sure didn’t fail to hawk his quack supplements throughout the article did he? Did you become one of Mikey’s “Inner Circle” subscribers Lowell?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You only post here because you’ve been banned everywhere else.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You didn’t ask for my name and place of work?

  • What? You claimed that I did. You should know that providing a real name identity would directly identity all the rest of it, and if you actually work in the medical field, and as you claim to.

  • To my knowledge I have not been banned anywhere and there would be no reason to be. Name a place I have been banned and show evidence for it.

  • Actually you are again lying. The article provides specific information on Dr. Klenner’s success with the use of vitamin C in the treatment of polio and other illnesses, to include shingles. You said you were going to destroy they article. With what, your own hatred of natural health reality, and your own lies? In the article itself Mike Adams does not hawk any supplements, and that is another lie. Any ads for or directing to supplements are a separate ad.

    You have to be the one of the most twisted, lying, and sick minded and disgusting pharma shills that I have ever run across, and posted against.

    Let me show you something that your closed mind again will ignore.

    Vitamin C is antiviral. The encapsulated form has been shown to produce levels of vitamin C that are comparable the IV form of vitamin C, (of course which now shunned the use of that by the FDA, and instead toxic vaccines are the only option in their world). High doses of vitamin C, and better yet intravenous or encapsulated vitamin C.

    The vitamin C cure for diseases, SIDS, and falsely accused shaken baby syndrome, after vaccines. Don’t think it is real? Then read the research below. Big pharma is NOT about understanding and nor treating, real biological and physiological health. All they are allowed to use, are the pharma drugs.

    Klenner/Jungeblut/Kalokerinos. .

    Vitamin C and Polio
    The Forgotten Research of Claus W. Jungeblut, M.D.
    http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v09n16.shtml

    Was the cure for Polio buried to profit from dangerous Rockefeller vaccines?
    http://newstarget.com/2016-10-05-was-the-cure-for-polio-buried-to-profit-from-dangerous-rockefeller-vaccines.html

    Why Liposomal Vitamin C Encapsulation? (This source is stated to provide nearly as much absorbable vitamin C as does IV forms of vitamin C. The reason is that encapsulation allows the vitamin C to bypass the stomach, and absorb in the intestine).
    https://www.livonlabs.com/

    J Exp Med. 1939 Aug 31; 70(3): 315–332.
    PMCID: PMC2133810
    A FURTHER CONTRIBUTION TO VITAMIN C THERAPY IN EXPERIMENTAL POLIOMYELITIS
    Claus W. Jungeblut
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2133810/

    A FURTHER CONTRIBUTION TO VITAMIN C THERAPY IN
    EXPERIMENTAL POLIOMYELITIS* (full study)
    BY CLAUS W, JUNGEBLUT, M.D.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2133810/pdf/315.pdf

    High-dose Intravenous Vitamin C as a Successful Treatment of Viral Infections
    https://riordanclinic.org/2014/02/high-dose-intravenous-vitamin-c-as-a-successful-treatment-of-viral-infections/

    POLIO CURE, 1949

    The cure of polio was published by Fred Klenner, M.D. in a peer reviewed medical journal in 1949. (click here for paper). There has never been an article describing the use of massive doses of vitamin C in the doses prescribed by Klenner which has denied this cure. I suppose it was such a part of the medical religion that polio could not be cured that many ignored this cure. But I am also sure that there were some familiar with these treatments that knew that massive doses of ascorbate worked that figured that ignoring this cure would just paralyze a few children but that if this cure was widely know it would be a tremendous loss to the drug industry and most importantly, the loss of their jobs.

    Read more:
    http://vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/polioep.htm

    Don’t overlook the health dangers of a magnesium deficiency – here’s why: http://www.naturalhealth365.com/magnesium-deficiency-2222.html

    In addition, as you may know, sepsis, a life-threatening infection, is (at best) poorly managed by Western medicine. But, a few forward-thinking doctors appreciate the power of natural remedies and found a way to literally save thousands of lives per year.

    Discover a wonderful protocol that neutralizes the threat of sepsis – safely and quickly: http://www.naturalhealth365.com/vitamin-c-sepsis-2246.html

    And, finally, here’s a completely natural way to boost immunity and greatly improve your ability to detoxify the body – which includes the 3 best nutritional supplements to take: http://www.naturalhealth365.com/stress-detoxification-immunity-1727.html

    The Treatment of Poliomyelitis and Other Virus Diseases with Vitamin C
    Fred R. Klenner, M.D., Reidsville, North Carolina
    http://vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/polio.htm

    An historical compendium of 20th-Century medical & scientific literature attesting to the efficacy of Ascorbate
    (Ascorbic Acid, Cevitamic Acid, Sodium Ascorbate etc. a.k.a. “Vitamin C”) in the treatment and prevention of human and animal illnesses and diseases.
    http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/

    Massive Doses of Vitamin C and the Virus Diseases
    Fred R. Klenner, M.D., Reidsville, North Carolina
    http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/195x/klenner-fr-southern_med_surg-1951-v103-n4-p101.htm

    J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1999 Oct;22(8):530-3.
    The effectiveness of vitamin C in preventing and relieving the symptoms of virus-induced respiratory infections.
    Gorton HC, Jarvis K.

    Abstract
    BACKGROUND:
    An ever increasing demand to evaluate the effect of dietary supplements on specific health conditions by use of a “significant scientific” standard has prompted the publication of this study.
    OBJECTIVE:
    To study the effect of megadose Vitamin C in preventing and relieving cold and flu symptoms in a test group compared with a control group.
    DESIGN:
    Prospective, controlled study of students in a technical training facility.
    SUBJECTS:
    A total of 463 students ranging in age from 18 to 32 years made up the control group. A total of 252 students ranging in age from 18 to 30 years made up the experimental or test group.
    METHOD:
    Investigators tracked the number of reports of cold and flu symptoms among the 1991 test population of the facility compared with the reports of like symptoms among the 1990 control population. Those in the control population reporting symptoms were treated with pain relievers and decongestants, whereas those in the test population reporting symptoms were treated with hourly doses of 1000 mg of Vitamin C for the first 6 hours and then 3 times daily thereafter. Those not reporting symptoms in the test group were also administered 1000-mg doses 3 times daily.
    RESULTS:
    Overall, reported flu and cold symptoms in the test group decreased 85% compared with the control group after the administration of megadose Vitamin C.
    CONCLUSION:
    Vitamin C in megadoses administered before or after the appearance of cold and flu symptoms relieved and prevented the symptoms in the test population compared with the control group.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10543583

    VITAMIN C HAS BEEN KNOWN TO FIGHT 30 MAJOR DISEASES … FOR OVER 50 YEARS
    http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v02n02.shtml

    HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT: The Pioneering Work of
    FREDERICK ROBERT KLENNER, M.D.
    http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerbio.html

    The Treatment of Poliomyelitis and Other Virus Diseases with Vitamin C
    Fred R. Klenner, M.D., Reidsville, North Carolina
    http://www.nutri.com/49/

    Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, August 7, 2013
    Vitamin C and Polio – The Forgotten Research of Claus W. Jungeblut, M.D.
    http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v09n16.shtml

    Vitamin C and polio
    http://www.sott.net/article/264766-Vitamin-C-and-polio

    Curing the Incurable: Vitamin C, Infectious Diseases and Toxins
    by Dr. Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD
    https://the-moneychanger.com/articles/curing_the_incurable

    The Origin of the 42-Year Stonewall of Vitamin C
    https://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/199x/landwehr-r-j_orthomol_med-1991-v6-n2-p99.htm
    http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1991/pdf/1991-v06n02-p099.pdf

    Vitamin C May Be A Life-Saver
    Mega-doses Can Counter Avian Flu, Hepatitis &
    Herpes, And Control Advance Of AIDS
    http://www.rense.com/general64/co.htm

  • Part 2

    Here is another set of references I recently worked on in the determination of the correct form of vitamin C, and which is sodium ascorbate. This is the kind of stuff in regard to physiologically based health care that a mislead and closed minded pharma shill stooge like you, could never even begin to have any understanding of.

    Vitamin C: The Miracle Swine Flu Cure (60 Minutes Living) “Proof”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=28&v=twUVWv0fpRc

    The difference between Sodium Ascorbate and ascorbic acid forms of vitamin C.

    This was some research I recently did, and regarding the antiviral treatment and use of vitamin C. Earlier today I posted the history of vitamin C treatment of polio, etc. This selection fits well in following that up. I have had replies that the ascorbic acid is to acid and in the body. Well, here is a solution.You can easily follow what I am putting forth here, if you make that effort. I believe at this point that every issue has been addressed and regarding anything that can be questioned, to include the sodium salt issue regarding the sodium ascorbate version of vitamin C

    Thomas Levy answers that, right here.

    THE MANY FACES OF VITAMIN C, by Thomas Levy

    Sodium ascorbate is probably the best and certainly the least expensive of the mineral ascorbates for regular supplementation at relatively high doses (six grams or more daily). Many doctors and patients fear the regular dosing of sodium, however, due to the long-standing medical admonition to minimize sodium intake, especially for hypertension and cardiac failure patients. Indeed, sodium chloride (table salt) has long been known to facilitate fluid retention (increased plasma volume), a state that directly aggravates hypertension and heart failure. However, it appears that only sodium really results in significant fluid retention when administered with the chloride anion. Sodium when given with the anions citrate, ascorbate, or bicarbonate does not appear to adversely affect hypertension or to increase blood volume. Because of these findings, it has been directly suggested that the concept of “sodium-dependent” hypertension should be changed to “sodium chloride-dependent” hypertension (Kurtz and Morris, 1983; Kurtz et al., 1987). Anecdotally, I have never found multi-gram doses of sodium ascorbate to adversely affect blood pressure or blood volume status. However, since there always appear to be exceptions to every rule in biology, anyone who notices elevated blood pressures or ankle edema after high doses of sodium ascorbate would probably be well-advised to supplement with a different form of vitamin C.

    My Current Recommendations

    For the reasons mentioned above, I never recommend the regular ingestion of vitamin C as calcium ascorbate. The remaining mineral ascorbates are acceptable forms of vitamin C supplementation, but one can risk overdosing the cations if multi-gram doses of these forms of vitamin C are taken, with the exceptions of the sodium and magnesium ascorbates.

    For regular daily supplementation, sodium ascorbate is an economical, well-tolerated form of vitamin C. While many wish to avoid the “C-flush” effect, it appears to be a very good way to keep the gut relatively detoxified and clean. For those wishing to have a near-complete absorption of their vitamin C dose, the liposome-encapsulated form of vitamin C is optimal.

    For acute infectious and toxic states, I still recommend getting intravenous sodium ascorbate, usually at doses of 50 grams or more over several hours for most individuals. However, I would also recommend adding the liposome-encapsulated form of vitamin C orally at the same time. If the intravenous sodium ascorbate is not available, I recommend taking sodium ascorbate to bowel tolerance, and then taking the liposome-encapsulated form of vitamin C, several grams hourly, guided by symptoms and clinical response to determine subsequent dosing.

    Read more:
    https://www.peakenergy.com/health_ebytes/issue_9.php

    Thomas Levy Talks To Vitamin C Can Cure Coalition Part 1/9
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9Sa02XnteA

    Sodium Ascorbate Non Acidic Vitamin C 1000mg NON-GMO, 100 Tablets $7.63 for 100 tablets (compare that to the cost of largely dangerous and ineffective antiviral drugs)
    https://www.bronsonvitamins.com/sodium-ascorbate-non-acidic-vitamin-c-100-tablets.html

    Lypo-Spheric™ Vitamin C

    For optimal health.* With liposomal encapsulation, more goes to your cells and less is passed as waste.*
    1,000 mg of Vitamin C
    1,000 mg of Essential Phospholipids
    30 individually-wrapped packets per carton L-VC

    $32.95 + FREE Shipping
    (on online orders only)
    (compare that again, to the cost of questionable efficacy, anti-viral drugs

    https://www.livonlabs.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi/liposome-encapsulated/lypo-spheric-vitamin-c.html?gclid=CjwKCAiA9rjRBRAeEiwA2SV4ZWR7ph1zLOymkWyRO_-hrXv9kzysuhZgwimZ1ud5pNMJ_0jdojP93RoCjl0QAvD_BwE

    Vitamin C outperforms vaccines
    https://www.naturalnews.com/049146_vitamin_C_vaccines_natural_health.html

    One simple nutrient outperforms vaccines
    https://www.naturalhealth365.com/measles-vaccine-benefits-of-vitamin-c-1359.html

    Vitamin C outperforms vaccines
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzq81f6EeDs

    Vitamin C Outperforms Vaccines In Scientific Research
    http://www.herbs-info.com/blog/vitamin-c-outperforms-vaccines-in-scientific-research/?c=d

    The Treatment of Poliomyelitis and Other Virus Diseases with Vitamin C
    Fred R. Klenner, M.D., Reidsville, North Carolina
    http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/194x/klenner-fr-southern_med_surg-1949-v111-n7-p209.htm

    Clinical Guide to the Use of Vitamin C
    The Clinical Experiences of Frederick R. Klenner, M.D.,
    http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinical_guide_1988.htm

    Journal of Applied Nutrition Vol. 23, No’s 3 & 4, Winter 1971
    Observations On the Dose and Administration of Ascorbic Acid When Employed Beyond the Range Of A Vitamin In Human Pathology
    Frederick R. Klenner, M.D., F.C.C.P.
    http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html

    Preparation of Sodium Ascorbate for IV and IM Use
    (For physicians only)
    http://www.doctoryourself.com/vitciv.html

    The Third Face of Vitamin C
    Robert F. Cathcart, III, M.D. (many study references)
    http://www.orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1992/pdf/1992-v07n04-p197.pdf

    Bibliography and References
    https://vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/candida.htm

    Cathcart’s Instructions on the Preparation of Vitamin C for I.V. Use.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgi-7xPrCAg

    How to make Liposomal encapsulated Vitamin C at home!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynhRoyQYIQ8

    Now notice there is the use of a different forms of vitamin C here, sodium ascorbate, verses ascorbic acid. It appears that Klenners form was actually sodium ascorbate. We need to determine the differences, comparitively.

    Ascorbic acid or sodium ascorbate – which is best?

    Submitted by shaolin on Mon, 2008-12-08 11:16 Cpn treatment experiences
    Since most harmful bacteria thrive in acidic conditions, doesn´t it make sense to supplement with sodium ascorbate instead of ascorbic acid?

    “Sodium ascorbate is non-acid, very pure and a thousand times more soluble than ascorbic acid. Sodium ascorbate is more reactive than ascorbic acid in building connective tissue and antibody structures and more effective in killing some viruses and bacteria” – Gerald F. Judd, ph.D, chemist and researcher.

    Read more:
    http://www.cpnhelp.org/ascorbic_acid_or_sodium_a

    Difference between Ascorbic Acid and Soduim Ascorbate

    Have you ever heard about Soduim Ascorbate? More often than not, this may sound foreign to you. However, have you noticed lately that most of the pharmaceutical companies have been manufacturing and selling sodium ascorbate as opposed to ascorbic acid? Why is this so?

    This time, Health Awareness is going to discuss about the difference between ascorbic acid and sodium ascorbate and which among these two provide you with a more effective result in terms of fighting chances of acquiring disease, boosting your immune system, and protecting our cells from damage.

    One might think that ascorbic acid and sodium ascorbate is just one and the same type of Vitamin C, however this is one misconception. Sodium ascorbate is non-acidic and it is more soluble than ascorbic acid. It is more reactive compared to ascorbic acid in building connective tissues and anti-body structures which make it more effective in killing viruses and bacteria.

    Another difference of sodium ascorbate from ascorbic acid is that it is absorb easier by the body since it provides a more bio-available source of Vitamin C as opposed to ascorbic acid. Sodium ascorbate contains about 111 mg of sodium and 889 mg of ascorbic acid. The addition of sodium buffers the acid content of Vitamin C which results to a lowered acidity.

    One might ask, if they would get the same results and health benefits if we were to take Sodium Ascorbate as opposed to Ascorbic Acid, the answer would be the same. However, since it has been known that sodium ascorbate is easier absorbed by the body, it would simply mean that we see the results faster.

    One might be asking, what are the different health benefits of sodium ascorbate and if it is the same as the health benefits of taking ascorbic acid?

    In order to be able to give a fair comparison between the difference between ascorbic acid and sodium ascorbate, it is but wise to point out the different health benefits of both.

    Read more:
    http://healthrelatedillness.blogspot.com/2012/10/difference-between-ascorbic-acid-and.html

    Additional sources:
    http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-ascorbic-acid-and-vs-sodium-ascorbate/
    https://supplements.knoji.com/is-sodium-ascorbate-better-than-ascorbic-acid/

    Natural Vitamin C vs. Synthetic Vitamin C -What’s the Difference?
    http://blog.livonlabs.com/natural-vs-synthetic-vitamin-c-whats-the-difference/

    Vitamin C overdose saves man from deadly virus, Ebola
    https://www.naturalhealth365.com/vitamin-c-overdose-deadly-virus-1182.html

    Vitamin C: The Miracle Swine Flu Cure (60 Minutes Living) “Proof”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=28&v=twUVWv0fpRc

    Vitamin C As An Antiviral:
    It’s All About Dose
    http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v05n09.shtml

    Vitamin C mega-dosing continues to unleash healing miracles around the world
    https://www.naturalnews.com/034591_vitamin_C_mega-dose_healing.html

    Lypospheric Vitamin C Creator: Les Nachman Interview Part 1
    https://healthmaven.blogspot.com/2012/01/lypospheric-vitamin-c-creator-les.html

    LIPOSOMAL ENCAPSULATED VITAMIN C – As Effective As IV

    This method of making your own LIPOSOMAL ENCAPSULATED VITAMIN C enables individuals to have the effectiveness of Intravenous Vitamin C for a price that that equates to pennies on a dollar. Avoids that experience of diarrhea when one takes Vit C in pill form.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SeU–wadrMY

    The Bioavailability of Different Forms of Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid)
    http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vitamins/vitamin-C/supplemental-forms

    SODIUM ASCORBATE
    SODIUM ASCORBATE is a six carbon compound related to glucose. It is found naturally in citrus fruits and many vegetables. Ascorbic acid is an essential nutrient in human diets, and necessary to maintain connective tissue and bone. Its biologically active form, vitamin C, functions as a reducing agent and coenzyme in several metabolic pathways. Vitamin C is considered an antioxidant.

    PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION: Minute crystals or white powder. pH of aqueous solutions 5.6 to 7.0 or even higher (a 10% solution, made from a commercial grade, may have a pH of 7.4 to 7.7). (NTP, 1992)

    https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/sodium_ascorbate#section=Top

    l-ascorbic acid
    L-ascorbic acid; Ascorbic acid; Vitamin C; 50-81-7;
    L-ascorbic acid is a six carbon compound related to glucose. It is found naturally in citrus fruits and many vegetables. Ascorbic acid is an essential nutrient in human diets, and necessary to maintain connective tissue and bone. Its biologically active form, vitamin C, functions as a reducing agent and coenzyme in several metabolic pathways. Vitamin C is considered an antioxidant.
    https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/ascorbic_acid#section=Top

    Reichstein process
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The Reichstein process in chemistry is a combined chemical and microbial method for the production of ascorbic acid from D-glucose that takes place in several steps. This process was devised by Nobel Prize winner Tadeusz Reichstein and his colleagues in 1933 while working in the laboratory of the ETH in Zürich.

    Sodium ascorbate – Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_ascorbate

    Vitamin C
    Vitamin C, also known as ascorbic acid and L-ascorbic acid
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C

    Ascorbic acid (molecular aspects)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascorbic_acid_(molecular_aspects)

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Then why constantly ask for my place of employment?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    SR for one. When they posted an article making fun of your “9 questions” you whined and whined about not being able to respond there. Because you are banned there.

    You’ll deny that of course. So go over there and post something. You won’t because you can’t.

    Will your lies ever stop?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Nowhere in your post do you mention how the article showed what its title proclaimed. And if you can’t see where Mikey embedded supplement advertisements throughout the body of the article you need to buy some readers son.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You can copy/paste all you want but the article still has a fake news title.

  • I just told you specifically and exactly the direct answer to that. Is your reading comprehension that obviously lacking?

  • You should have been banned long ago for your mindless lying and your failure to get honest. I just showed you directly how and why every claim you are making in regard to that article is a lie. You said you were going to destroy any natural news article, and you failed right out of the gate. Deny it all you want.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Mikey doesn’t even mention vaccines until the last sentence. Why don’t you read the article?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Again, read the article then show us what Mikey actually says about vaccines.

  • All I know is that what I posted went directly up on their article page, but later disappeared from it. At no time has there been any notification of any kind, that I am banned there. Typically a site would and should tell you that.

    Does it not seem more than disingenuous and censoring, to create an article falsely claiming to have answered those 9 questions, and then deny any response to it by the person who (me) that created those questions ,and which were fully explained and referenced on my site page? I created another site page and which was a counter reply to the said and bogus SR page; and I am not allowed to respond with that to said page SR created?

    Again you have distorted withing your twisted mind, anything and everything that happened.

  • Just provide your real name and I will do the rest. Trust me.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    I’m sure you’re banned from RI also. You just really rub a lot of people the wrong way Lowell. And you lie a lot too.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You know threats aren’t allowed either. You really need to be banned.

  • You sure are paranoid to consider that as a threat. You provide your name and I will have you identified directly and as to exactly where you work and more. Try me.

  • What is RI? Do you have a problem typing whole words? You make a lot of claims that you have, and can never back up.

  • What do I need to do yet here, copy and paste the entire article for you? You are yet lying on every level. You failed to destroy the article and which in your sick and mislead arrogance you claimed you would do. You simply can not, and you refuse to admit to your obvious failure. You should have known better.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    How does that benefit me though?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You know exactly what RI is Lowell.

  • And you just keep on lying and no matter what is stated to you.

  • The real fake and the fraud, is you.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Well all you could even copy would be the last sentence. And it wouldn’t help.

  • And no matter what is stated to you in the direct correction of your lying; you just keep on lying. You failed, so just admit it.

  • No I am not aware of what that is. Provide the actual name of it and I will see if I know what you are talking about.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    If you can make a compelling argument that Mikey explained how vitamin C outperformed any vaccine, as the title claims, I’m all ears. But all you have is the last sentence.

  • So there is within your twisted mind a requirement that you be benefited? Why and for what reason?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Flagged

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Anyone can read the article Lowell. You can jump up and down all day.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Lol do you need a hint?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Well before I’d give personal information to an online psycho I’d need a darn good reason. What would that possibly be?

  • More lies and false accusations. You are a coward and with no excuses left. The reason involves your level of credibility and your existing conflicts of interest. What do you not get about that? Not that you ever had any chance of having any credibility.

  • I honestly have no idea but quit playing games and simply provide the actual name of the site? Or will it take 20 more game playing replies to do so?

  • That is why you are screwed, and everyone can now see that. You lied about it all.

  • You flag the actual truth; how pathetic is that. Desperate fake Karl. Why have you not yet explained why you are using the false identity of a deceased MD?

  • Kimmypossible3578

    BAHAHAHAHA! LMMFAO! I love you, Lowell! All those brains and a sense of humor too! You’re the best! I am definitely a fan! I try and follow as many of your posts as possible. Keep up the great work! I appreciate all that you do and I have learned so much from you. Thank you!

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Again, no matter what personal information I give you it will never change your opinion. So what’s the point? Why would I take the risk?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    RI…gee I wonder what that could be…

  • Karl Wegner MD

    It’s clear as day Lowell. The most truthful article you could find on NN was just another of Mikey’s fake headlines used as click bait to sell more supplements.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Why do you keep asking for personal information, violating disqus policy?

  • It is NOT a violation when you made the choice to reply with a the false identity of another person. That rightfully can be then be put into question. What it actually being violated here of the human rights of the individual that you are using their identity; and that in regard to the posting of your trash, in another persons name. It is just simply wrong to post anywhere using the false identity of a known and deceased person. You mind is simply unable to comprehend, right and wrong.

  • What is actually clear as day is the fact that your are lying. Everything you have stated regarding that article, is a lie. Not only does the article put forth exactly what the title states it does, but I as well directly followed up with the additional supporting information which further verifies everything that was stated in the article. Just admit that you are lying misinformation promoting fraud, and a quack.

  • So what is it. You can’t say. What a childish game playing fool.

  • No MD, Pediatrician, and nor anyone else within that system, can change the fact that the known false vaccine propaganda has been exposed, and directly for what it is. So somehow you think you are more special and knowledgeable than they are? How and why is it then that your posted replying quackery has also been as well exposed here, and on every level? You continue to live within a mind filled with nothing but mislead and in denial delusions. In this age of information, your demanded and continued ignorance is obviously a choice.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    It’s a violation Lowell. Stop it.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    The article never addresses what the title claims Lowell. It’s just another stereotypical NN fake news story.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    And of course there’s SBM also, but I suppose you don’t know what that is either.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    So since you feel that way why would I give you personal information?

  • This right here continues to be the most deranged, false, and twisted excuse that you have come up with yet.

  • You were referring here to sites that you claim I have posted on and as a result was banned from. You simply continue to play your sick games as a deflection from the fact that you know that can not provide any evidence for the claim.

  • I showed you directly that is does. If all you can do here is continue to put forth one lie after another, then simply get gone. No one here wants to read any more of your garbage, and no one wants to read of any more of your harassing disruption and deliberate distraction, deflecting away from the real issues regarding vaccine risk, and this article.

  • States a twisted man that has lost his mind in a hail storm of getting your arse kicked repeatedly here on this site.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Listen to what you’re saying Lowell. By not taking the risk of giving you personal information for no gain whatsoever I’m using a deranged, false and twisted excuse?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Go post about anything on SR, RI and SBM then. (you won’t)

  • Karl Wegner MD

    If you’d like to try and find another truthful NN article I’ll destroy it also.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Drives you crazy, this being your “safe space” and all.

  • The fact that you are a twisted and delusional liar, making things up as you go, doesn’t at all bother you? You still can not show evidence for any site that you claim that I have been banned from. How many of your fellow shills have been banned from this site? You know, and then they just create another sock puppet account, for post from another account they previously created.

  • You did not destroy the first one, as all you did was lie about it. Anyone that followed that can easily see that you did exactly that. Not a word from you about Klenner and which was the focus of that article. And then I followed up with a load of additional evidence. If you can not tell the truth, then you directly lose on every reply you make.

    About your moon landings. You have zero knowledge regarding the truth on any level. You are refusing to question anything at all, sheople; so just admit it.

    Astronauts Gone Wild Full Documentary (faked moon landings)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld4TCSt_Gws

    A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2366&v=xciCJfbTvE4

    NASA engineer admits they cant get past the Van Allen Belts
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O5dPsu66Kw

    Undeniable Proof Man Has Never Gone to The Moon!!! | 2017
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbSPzeRvacU

  • You already read my reply regarding SR, and RI and SBM I again do not know what they are. Go ahead and directly state the name of those sites. You have refused to, and because you know that you are just playing another one of your sick games.

  • Again, the purpose of that here is involving determination of your conflicts of interest, and that reflects directly on your level of credibility. Not that you have ever had any credibility.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Name one thing I’ve made up Lowell.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Are you even able to copy/paste anything that isn’t from a fake news site Lowell? Is that all you ever read?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Like I said you won’t.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Are you still trying to get me to break the posting rules for this site, recently pointed out by the owner, to try to get me banned?

  • The use of a real identity does not break any rules. You are nothing but a coward, and you know it. Any readers here can easily see how twisted your mind really is. You simply keep going in circles here and as you keep scratching and scrapping for any repeated false excuses that you can come up with. None are valid.

  • Won’t what? You are the person here claiming that I have posted on what I am assuming are websites, and that I do not recognize. All you had to do was state what those abbreviations represent. Yet in your falsely accusing sickness here, you just keep on deflecting.

  • There is nothing fake about it. You simply refuse to face the evidence of reality, and you as well refuse to be wrong.

  • I have an easier question, for you; name one thing here that you haven’t made up? If I ever find one post that you have made that is actually entirely and completely factual, I will directly commend you for it, but however to this point, I don’t find any.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Asking people for their name and place of work is breaking the rules Lowell. Stop.

  • Karl Wegner MD

    Well despite your denials you at least know what SR stands for, so go over there and post something. (you won’t)

  • Karl Wegner MD

    There’s nothing fake about a YouTube video proclaiming “Undeniable Proof Man Has Never Gone to The Moon!!! | 2017”?

  • Karl Wegner MD

    You can’t name one thing can you?