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Dear Doctor, Do You Really Know What Vaccines Contain?

Many doctors do not know what ingredients are in vaccines.

Many doctors do not know what ingredients are in vaccines.

Dear Doctor, do you really know what vaccines contain?

Doctor, you strongly recommend vaccines, so you should surely be able to tell us about the ingredients. No doubt you have studied the product information, so what is your opinion about secret and unknown substances in vaccines?

Doctor: I Do Not Know Which Secret Substances are Present in Vaccines.

Thank you, Doctor, for your honest answer.

You see, Doctor, we understand that vaccine manufacturers are protected by trade secrets and are not obliged to reveal all the ingredients in vaccines, even to doctors. These secret substances are termed “GRAS” (short for “Generally Recognized As Safe”). One of them is peanut oil:

“The exact composition of vaccines cannot and will not be disclosed under an exemption that protects business information with the Access to Information Act in Canada and the Freedom of Information Act in the US. Similarly, trade secrets are also exempt under the British Freedom of Information Act. Thus the guidelines to label refined peanut oil/moral obligation to label peanut oil are in conflict with laws protecting trade secrets. Full disclosure of excipients was not and continues not to be general practice in the US or Canada.” [1]

Doctor, do you find it acceptable that substances termed “Generally Recognized as Safe” when injected may, as in the case of peanut oil, cause life-threatening anaphylactic shock or lifelong allergies?

Why do you not show professional pride and sincere care for your patients by insisting that the presence of these secret ingredients be revealed?

No response, dear Doctor?

Do you know how much latex may be leached into vaccines?

Doctor:  I Do Not Know How Much Latex is Present in Vaccines.

What do you think about these facts, Doctor?

According to WebMD: In the US, 1 – 5% of the population suffers from latex allergy.

One credible reason is that millions of children are injected with fluids containing latex allergens over and over again in connection with vaccination schedules.

The presence of latex allergens in vaccines is due to leaching into the fluids from syringe tip caps, plungers and multi-dose vial stoppers. Information can normally be found about which specific vaccines have latex in the packaging, but this is not dependable as manufacturers often change rubber stoppers, etc . [2]

It is also impossible to know the amount of latex allergens which has leached into vaccine fluids. Amounts may vary according to time and storage conditions.

When you puncture rubber stoppers of vaccine vials in connection with dose withdrawals, won’t there surely be many rubber particles released into the vaccine?

Doctor: I Do Not Know the Extent of Rubber Particles Present.

Well, we understand that the last doses in multi-dose vials contain the most particles of rubber.

You surely agree, Doctor, that particles in injections may result in serious health consequences for patients.

For interest, we contacted the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to ask about quality control of vial stoppers. We received this response:

“To the best of my knowledge, there is no specific requirement for the manufacturer to count and identify particles after vaccine stoppers are punctured.” [3]

Can you guarantee that vaccine doses contain equal amounts of virus allergen?

Doctor: I Do Not Know the Amounts of Virus Allergen Present in Each Dose.

True, Doctor. Nobody knows this.

Virus antigens in vaccines may be in the form of tiny particles invisible to the naked eye, which float in the vaccine fluid. [4] Irrespective of the shaking technique of the person who administers the injection and even if they measure the volume of fluid correctly from a multi-dose vial, it cannot be guaranteed that the correct strength or amount of virus antigen will be the same for each person in the vaccine line!

Are you aware that the last doses in multi-dose vials may contain the most mercury?

Doctor: I Do Not Know How Much Mercury is in Each Dose.

That is surely serious, Doctor.

“… thimerosal (mercury preservative) tends to settle in the vial. If it is not shaken up before being drawn, the first dose will contain low concentrations of mercury and the last dose will contain enormously high concentrations. If your baby is the unlucky one that gets the last dose, serious brain injury can result.” [5]

Did you know that there can be a microbial contamination rate of up to 27% in multi-dose vials and that this may result in serious health conditions for patients?

Doctor: I Do Not Know the Extent of Microbial Contamination.

Each time a dose is withdrawn, there is risk of microbial contamination of the vaccine, with the last doses being the most contaminated. Contamination comes from the air and surroundings and it can also be caused by the doctor or nurse who administers the vaccine. The more people who are present, the greater is the risk of contamination.

“There is significant variation in user techniques associated with multi-dose vials, and faulty aseptic technique is the primary cause of vial contamination.”

“Studies have demonstrated that the bacterial contamination rates of multiple-dose vials vary significantly… the contamination rate in published studies has been as low as 0% and as high
as 27%.”

“The preponderance of evidence that contaminated multi-dose vials have contributed significantly to morbidity and mortality must not be ignored.” [6]

Doctor, what is your opinion about the presence of foreign DNA and prion proteins?

Doctor: I Do Not Know If the Vaccines I Recommend Contain Foreign DNA or Prions.

We do understand, doctor, because in fact nobody can know this.

Vaccines may contain foreign DNA from insect cells, yeast, mouse brains, tissue from pigs, guinea pigs, rabbits, dogs, calf lymph, hens’ eggs, chick embryos, monkey kidney and testicle cells, retinal cells, aborted human fetal tissue and cancer cells. [7] Vaccines may also contain prion proteins. [8]

Some substances are unexpectedly discovered as analysis methods become more advanced. There are many examples including SV40 in the polio vaccine [9], suspected of causing millions of cancer cases and pig DNA [10] in the rotavirus vaccine, both discovered long after the vaccines had been marketed.

The discovery by an independent expert of aluminum bound recombinant HPV DNA in Gardasil has unknown consequences which may be horrific. [11]

Doctor, are you also aware that FDA has approved for trials the use of cell lines derived from human cancer tumors for vaccine manufacture?

The meeting of the Advisory Committee is accessible in a webcast of several hours’ duration. [12]

From viewing the last session (part III) it is understood that:

It may not be possible to guarantee that these vaccines will be free from adventitious agents from the substrates, nor that they may not induce cancer or cancerous tumors in the recipients.

Conclusion

Please note, Doctor:

The committee suggested that to avoid public anxiety, the information about vaccine production from human cancer tumors be omitted from package inserts. It was also decided that a special committee meeting be held to discuss how to present the information to doctors concerning vaccine production from human cancer tumors, so that they may feel comfortable about the issue.

Doctor, you have confirmed that you do not know what vaccines contain when you administer them to your patients. The truth is that nobody knows, not even the manufacturers.

Consequently, you will no doubt agree that you are unable to provide us with information about vaccines which is both relevant and adequate for us to be able to make an informed choice.

Thank you for your time. How much is the bill?

[contentbox headline=”References” type=”normal”]

1. http://barbfeick.com/vaccinations/allergy/605-1gras.html

2. http://vactruth.com/2012/08/02/vaccines-latex-allergens/

3. http://www.scribd.com/doc/59243842/Particles-in-Injections-Rev#fullscreen

4. http://www.ema.europa.eu/docs/en_GB/document_library/EPAR…

5. http://www.naturalnews.com/011764_thimerosal_mercury.html

6. http://www.infectioncontrolresource.org/Past_Issues/IC11.pdf

7. http://vactruth.com/2012/01/21/fly-in-my-vaccine-soup/

8. http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/01/briefing/3750b1_01.htm

9. http://www.thelibertybeacon.com/2013/07/12/cdc-admits-as-many-as-30-million…

10. http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/rotavirus-vaccines-still-contamined-pig-virus-dna

11. http://sanevax.org/breaking-news-gardasil-hpv-dna-discovered-in-post-mortem-samples/

12. http://www.fda.gov/AdvisoryCommittees/CommitteesMeetingMaterials…

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  • Jennifer S

    So thankful my children haven’t been injected, and so scared for those children whose parents and doctors don’t have this information and think they are protecting the child. The FDA and big pharma cover ups are terrifying.

  • Angela Hemphill

    What I think is a little odd is, the advertisement at the top of this article says FLU SHOTS ONLY $15 at http://www.doctorsexpressvintage.com WTF!!!!!! OMG! Why would that be an advertisement on this site? Uuummmm……. NO Thanks I’ll Pass On That!

  • Thunderman

    Advertisements are picked independently of the site and are different from viewer, country and even day time. But still – quite ironic pick….

  • SADHU-VEDANT-MUNI

    really we are indirectly pouring many harmful. hazardous and diseases in respect of prevention. it is an alarming signs. we are engulfing many diseases to our babies. when it is now all known so stop them and need of awakening to the patients, parents and as well doctors. the manufacturer should adopt preventive measures.

  • MissEcoGlam

    It’s probably google ad words doing this

  • VaccineRisks

    It would be interesting if doctors and vaccine nurses would participate with comments here!

  • The truth

    People please STOP putting you children in danger. Rabies is 100% fatal if contracted but also COMPLETELY preventable if vaccinated. Vaccines are not the devil, they save lives! Even if all of these claims of risky vaccines were actually true that would mean that vaccinating your child would have a small risk but with a high reward, protection from a much worse disease. Isn’t a smaller risk better then a larger one?The vaccine would be the lesser of all evils. However all of the claims these people make about the dangers of vaccines are not based on sound scientific fact. Websites like this one are run by people that lack the understanding of proper scientific methodology and research design. If you don’t set up an experiment or study correctly you cannon trust the results. That is what all of these anti-vaccine groups do, they try and pass off manipulated studies as the truth. Stop falling prey to the fear mongering and go learn the difference between a properly constructed, trusted study and a unreliable one. Once you learn how to properly construct a study and you’re eyes will be opened to the truth.This isn’t some big conspiracy and it’s not something to be brush off! Your children are in danger because you are listening to people with absolutely no scientific knowledge, you are letting people spewing out unproved claims scare you into putting your children in grave danger.

  • Actually, comments like yours are usually from people that don’t understand that most medical journal research is fraudulent and backed my pharmaceutical companies.

    The fox guards the hen house.

    Even the former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine said it’s no longer possible to believe much of the research published

    http://ethicalnag.org/2009/11/09/nejm-editor/

    You can’t show one scientific, double blind, placebo study where they’ve taken 1,000 vaccinated kids and compared them to 1,000 unvaccinated kids short and long term.

    That would be real science.

    All you have is assumptions based on convention wisdom. No concrete science or real efficacy studies.

    Over 2 BILLION has been paid-out to vaccine inured kids since the 90’s. Tell me again how safe they are?

  • Bwell

    One of my children ran 105 fever after the dpt and started convulsing. She also has never been able to sleep well and sweats all the time. My other child after having the DPT as a baby started having trouble breathing like her airways were closing up, we had to call an ambulance many times as she could barley breath. After the HIB for the first time in high school started having migraines so bad she couldn’t function, her eyesight also went from completely normal to very bad. She has since had a full body scan and there was numerous detected problems we are having to deal with.
    Not to mention all the colds, ear infections and virus the would get as small children.

    Now…..I have a grand daughter that is almost five and has never been vaccinated and guess what…she has never had any problems!! We feed her foods free of toxins and GMO’s !! She has been exposed to people being sick with chicken pox etc. and she has never gotten sick after being around them. Her immune system is in perfect working order since her body has not been invaded with such horrific ingredients found in vaccines. Thank you Vaccine Truth for all of the true information made available so our kids can have normal healthy lives!

  • brooklynboyzz

    Troll and the junk science is the science the scientists paid by big pharma to get the results they want. Sounds like you’re the one who needs to do some homework. Are you one of the kooks who thinks the Amish have a “super gene” to explain why they don’t have autism in their community?

  • greenvegansara

    Hi. I am a nurse. I’m also vegan. But even before I was vegan I was leary of vaccinations. Because they can’t tell you exactly what’s in them. My children were selectively vaccinated. Meaning not on the CDC’s schedule and not all of the vaccines. Due to this in order to enter public school we had to sign a religious exemption form. (My husband is the one who still believes in Vaccines that’s why they had any. If he were to do the research I’ve done I dont believe he would want them to have any) I now have a son entering middle school. The pressure they put onto the children in 5th grade at school is terrible. Scaring them with horror stories. Telling them they won’t be allowed in middle school without the shot. To pick up his schedule today we must bring a religious exemption form. In Virginia it has to be notarized. No one knows you can opt out unless you research it. In nursing school they go hard core with the brainwashing. But when questioned specifically they can’t provide good answers. Yes I’m scared that my children will get any disease. But I’m also scared of the horrific ingredients in the vaccinations. I am a nurse in healthcare but do not give vaccinations. I am leaning towards becoming a naturopathic clinician. MD’s and people in healthcare professions just say what they’ve been taught. They don’t look into it on their own. Many don’t look into nutrition. They have a one semester class on it. I’ve taught some doctors more than they’ve known about nutrition. But when it comes to vaccines they get so irrate. They don’t want to hear that I don’t believe in their schedule etc. Its odd. Its big pharma brainwashing.

  • Free People

    Is your real name Quack Paul Offit, aka Satan?
    You’re just a big pharma vaccine pushing Troll.
    Why don’t you provide just one link (not associated with government agencies or fake studies), proving vaccines provide immunity to anything and are actually effective. Because you can’t.

  • Marygrace

    Exactly, why wouldn’t they tell us the ingredients? Because they are not good for us, but make BILLIONS for Big pHarma. Money drives the vaccine industry, not prevention of disease. I am a nurse and Social Worker and have seen the damage. Not worth the risk!

  • HolisticDoc

    I didn’t know that rabies had a vaccine for humans. Just a shot to take after possible exposure.

  • curtis

    As a natural health practitioner for many years,I can tell you there is absolutely no proof of efficacy of vaccines!!

  • Shelley Tzorfas

    Peanut by products are used in the manufacturing process but they are not required to list it so it is hard to find out which ones.. but look around you as more school districts have gone “Peanut Free.” This was not the case until a law was passed in 1986 that shielded vaccine makers from liability as your right to sue them in regular courts was removed and suddenly kids went from a few vaccines to more than 70 where serious allergies, asthma, autism, tortes, pans, latex reactions and cancers took a large leap into the lives of children. Shel of “Recovering Autism, ADHD, & Special Needs.”

  • Barb

    Rabies is a scam http://www.whale.to/vaccine/rabies.html no doctor has ever had or seen a case.

    Modern medicine is based on benefit vs. risk, these 3 pages of rabies vaccine adverse event studies http://www.whale.tovaccines/rabies1.html compared to the infinitesimal small cases “confirmed” (with antibody not an actual pathogen) in a year per many hundred million humans and pets should clarify how the risks of vaccine far outweighs “benefit”.

    Quoted from “Vaccine Tricks and Tips” “Plos Medicine recently published a paper entitled “Why Most Published Research Findings are False.” The author of the study, Dr. John Ioannidis, is an internationally esteemed scientific researcher, epidemiologist, and Professor of Medicine at Stanford University.

    He concluded that “it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true.” In fact, 80 percent of non-randomized studies turn out to be wrong, as do 25 percent of supposedly gold-standard randomized trials. “At every step in the process, there is room to distort results, a way to make a stronger claim or to select what is going to be concluded,” says Ioannidis. Thus, vaccine studies need to be read very closely, otherwise significant information that could affect their validity may be overlooked.”

    I’ve worked with hundreds of aggressive dogs (a few even foaming at the mouth) and been bitten on occasion; the only infection I ever got was post tetanus shot – the one time I went to a doctor for treatment.

    Broad generalizations without references discredit the author, intelligent people put opinions and emotions on hold and let the facts tell the story.

  • Roxanne

    Do not worry should your child getting an infectious disease. It is the
    unvaccinated child who has a strong nutritional profile esp. for vitamins
    A, C etc., who doesn’t consume junk, avoids wi-fi etc. exposure, and isn’t subjected to dangerous suppressive therapies (ex. inappropriate fever suppression) but rather immune supportive therapies, that is far less likely to have a tough time with an infection than his vaccinated counterpart with a dumbed down immune system.

  • marcikarr

    You really do not know what you are talking about. Why do you even get on websites like this if you think the way you do. You need to be educated, all you can talk about is science. Listen to what the parents are saying. Read Evidence of Harm by David Kirby and then try saying there isn’t a conspiracy. Quit putting your children in danger by vaccinating them.

  • Roxanne

    My dog died from the rabies vaccine, and I learned far too late that in studies
    comparing vaccinated versus unvaccinated dogs (University of Purdue), that
    there were some very disturbing trends amongst the vaccinated esp. in regards to auto-immune disease.

  • Kiwi

    I am delighted that people are becoming more informed and are seeing it for the scam that it is. I am also worried about all the poison that has gone into so many children, I literally feel sick when I think how helpless they are and that their parents and Doctors really believe they are doing the right thing…

  • DWS

    Don’t forget to mention the gag order that comes with the settlement! Can’t have people knowing the truth can we!

  • DWS

    Every single unjust and dangerous action committed by the medical industry, food industry, and all corporate, profit-motivated interests, are a direct result of a broken political system run by corporate money. Shout, scream and protest all you like, but nothing is going to happen until we get the corporate money OUT of politics, and maybe then we might see the lawmakers taking action for the benefit of THE PEOPLE for the first time in history. Democracy is possible, but we don’t have it yet!

  • LOOOOVED this! I actually took note too, so that my upcoming visit, when they try pushing more vaccines on me, I can ask some of these questions. I’ve already been compiling facts for them to consider since my last visit when the HPV vaccine was pushed on me.. .after I said “I’ll never get another HPV Vaccine again.” You’d think that would be enough. DWS, in the comments here said nothing will change until we get the corporate $ out of politics. I can agree on that too, but we can also inform ourselves, refuse these nasty vaccines and hopefully try and share the useful info with our loved ones. That alone will make a small difference. I at least know now that under no circumstance will I back down again & take a vaccine because nurse keeps on and on and on at me, telling me “but you’ll never have to worry about cervical cancer.” WTF! We can do that much — be informed.

  • Oh goodness, me too. ME too! I feel so upset knowing that my loved ones (and millions of others) are agreeing to put these vaccines in their kids! It’s so hard to sit back when you know the truth. Very sad.

  • This is incredible. It’s sad & I am sorry that your poor children had such bad side effects, but it was awesome to read the last bit of your story — you realized, and now the others have not had vaccines. That’s really awesome, especially to know that the near-5 year old has not had any problems. I think you should continue to share this — hopefully wake some people up! Have you posted this on a blog somewhere? I would be sharing this with as many people as possible. It’s actually helpful to hear from other parents, especially when your other had such serious side effects. I’m glad you shared. I think it’s important to let people know what everyday people go through due to vaccines & thanks to the internet, we are able to do this & read other accounts & know. :)

  • Try telling that to people like the woman above who’s child couldn’t hardly breathe. Take the BS elsewhere because we know better & there’s nothing you can say to change the minds of people who have had FIRST HAND experience from vaccines causing damage. Seriously? Do you think any of us would believe you if we hadn’t had our own awful experiences with vaccines? Go support that crap somewhere else. You have to realize that when someone begins to go against vaccines that something big has happened to cause them to choose that route, something big and usually horrible, so coming here and promoting vaccines to people who’ve really been crapped on by them isn’t really wise.

  • Guest

    Yes sure is! Especially when they think you’re doing the wrong thing by not going along with the program. I’ve lost friendships because I had different opinions on vaccines. Even when you mention the straight facts. Their eyes just glaze over and the brain switches off. Mind bloggling to say the least. I did thought same until someone told me the cold hard facts then I stopped and researched. I WANTED to know. Some people rather not…

  • Jamie Nettles

    Hi! I loved your insight on this. My husband and I are now eating vegan and he is telling me not to vaccinate the kids. I am still on the fence and I didn’t do my youngest one year vaccinations. I would like to do a modified schedule as you had mentioned, which ones would you suggest?

  • Roxanne

    Exactly, not to mention all the homeschooled children who are vaccine-free and guess what – autism-free… Are we to believe
    they all come from some select gene pool. The proof is in
    the pudding – any wonder the authorities are trying to vaccine taint
    everyone so no one can see the obvious difference between real
    immunity those subjected to this backwards modality.

  • Roxanne

    I assume you know about the website – http://www.thetruthaboutgardasil.org
    http://www.vran.org also has some very good articles re. the HPV vaccine
    lie. Amazing how officialdom has the gall to boldly state that girls
    who have strokes within hours of vaccination bear no correlation…. The
    old coincidence theory yet again pushed by brainwashed vaccine apologists.

  • Roxanne

    Personally, the whole modality makes no sense as vaccines
    by their very delivery system (via injection) bypass the normal critical barriers of the immune system causing potential long-term havoc esp. for auto-immune disease… I would urge you to read up on demyelination, vaccine synergistic toxicity and blood brain barrier impacts in several sections in articles ‘The Problems with Vaccines’ at thevaccineresistancemovement.org (think that’s the right site name) Also, consider getting the book ‘Vaccine Free – 101 Stories of Vaccine Free Children’ by Andreas Bachmair, also get the must-read book ‘The Vaccine Safety Manual by Neil Miller etc. with over 1,000 studies. Surveys repeatedly show that unvaccinated children are much healthier, so when an infection comes along they handle it much better, and moreover their immune system is TRAINED naturally to deal with more serious threats like cancer later in life. I assume you have a good understanding of how to support the immune system nutritionally etc. through illness rather than inappropriately use suppressive modalities which on the surface seem to make the symptoms disappear but only drive the disease process deeper. (see http://www.vran.org article
    re. fever suppression) Also, remember that “at best” vaccines only offer temporary immunity whereas natural infection provides life long immunity. What’s key here is that vaccines may actually shift the age of a relatively harmless disease like chicken pox to a later age when the body is more prone to complications. Of course, the decision is yours but once you vaccinated one can’t take back the multiple live viruses and cocktail of neurotoxins and carcinogens that have been injected… Some people opt for homeopathic “vaccines” – not my preference but again it’s YOUR choice what you do – vaccinate, partially vaccinate or don’t vaccinate – so I’m not offering you
    “medical advice”… Just sharing my thoughts what
    I would do.

  • Thank you for telling me about that. I have been to that site a couple times, but had forgotten about it. I’m really glad you mentioned it because at the moment, I’m actually working on gathering as much info about vaccines (Gardasil in particular since it’s the one I had the experience with) to discuss with the supervisor over the health department in my county, which is where I received the vaccines & had them vehemently pushed on me after saying no a ton of times. I am responsible for it, for the most part because I should not have backed down. I learned, though, so now I am prepared to be firm and even walk out if it happens again. However, there has been some pretty big issues at the health dept where I go, so I’ve been planning to speak with the supervisor for a while now. I’m calling tomorrow to ask if for a date to discuss things & hopefully, he will be open to hearing the info I have gathered on the vaccine. I plan to ask him if he even knows anything about it & why his nurses do not. For instance, the nurse KNEW that I had a yeast allergy and she still pushed the vaccine — it has yeast and actually caused me a terrible bout of IBS — and had she know enough about the vaccine, she surely would not have pushed it. She also wouldn’t have told me that I’ll “never” have to worry about cancer and all that stuff. I figure I’ll just ask the supervisor if he could be more informing and make sure the nurses are actually somewhat educated on the vaccines they give as well as giving the freaking ingredients before giving the vaccines. Anyways, I figure this could be a good start at least. So thank you for mentioning the site. I’ll gather some more info from there that I will take with me to discuss. :)

  • VaccineRisks

    Kendra here are 27 questions which neither the manufacturers of Gardasil, health authorities, doctors nor other vaccine promoters have answered about Gardasil.
    http://vactruth.com/2011/11/04/27-dirty-little-vaccine-secrets/
    It would be a good idea if you gave the supervisor this and asked him to discuss it with the nurses and to present well documented answers to all of the questions!

  • VaccineRisks

    http://www.sanevax.org is excellent with fathoms of useful information.
    A serious team which focuses mainly on HPV vaccines.

  • Roxanne

    Thanks for the added info – will look into it.

  • Roxanne

    In addition to the above sites (don’t forget the excellent critiques and links at http://www.vran.org,) be sure to watch
    the HPV vaccine powerpoint presentation – short but info packed at http://www.thinktwice.com. The aluminum load to the body and junk “placebo” studies using aluminum (non-inert) – beyond the actual post-vax consequences – should be enough to put red flags up for any thinking person.

  • Roxanne

    Agreed, it’s a criminal assault on the body especially the bodies of babies. How twisted to inject newborns with these contaminants. Have
    those that do so, thoroughly parked their brains and normal gut instinct
    that should scream it is insane to inject babies only months old with multiple
    diseases. It sickens me to think how much neuro-degeneration, vaccine induced diseases etc. (VIDS) that these poor kids are being set up for.
    Though I wasn’t subjected to the number of vaccines currently given, I only
    wish someone had woken my mother up when I was young. How much
    needless suffering has resulted from the poisoned needle – the vast majority never attributed to the real culprit.
    It’s pathetic that we are indoctrinated to worship the very thing that in so
    many cases has destroyed or harm our lives. The irony, indeed!

  • Marcus Jasso

    Rarely do I tell anyone that we do not vaccinate. Guess the secret is out now… What I find interesting is that every school year, parents will come up to me (school functions, playground, etc.) and ask how I keep our children so healthy, especially during the “cold and flu” season. My response is always, “good nutrition, proper rest, and herbs such as olive leaf, oil or oregano, and vitamins, raw camu camu. We make their own juice and school lunch, blah blah blah.” Rarely do we need medication. I’ll always ask, “Your children are current with their vaccines aren’t they?” Most reply yes. Perhaps that is a part of your children’s issues.. Oh no, the vaccines couldn’t be the problem. My doctor assured me. Guess you’re right about that. Must be that darn flu bug. Folks, the research is out there. Just hard to find. Stay healthy! ( I probably will not respond to any comments as I have a broken right hand. OUCHY!)

  • Thank you so much for sharing all this! Looking into that site now. :) Very helpful! Thank you very much, again. I’ll be sure to take it with me.

  • Roxanne

    Hi Marcus,
    I’d encourage you to reconsider and tell these parents your children are
    vaccine-free, and gently try to educate them (if open/curious) or suggest material such as surveys etc. that show vaccine-free children are healthier. I found that it’s only after people see with their own eyes the difference that they start to connect the dots – at least those with any semblance of objectivity.

  • Roxanne

    Hi Jamie,
    Not trying to be pushy… Just wanted to share some other
    opinions that you may or may not have seen. The best
    to you and your family whatever you decide…

    “There are doctors who believe that childhood illnesses are important to maturation and development of the immune system to protect against more serious life threatening conditions. Suppressing normal childhood illness could very well backfire.”

    Dr. Zoltan Rona MD, ‘Natural Alternatives to Vaccination’

    “There is a school of thought that the so-called childhood illnesses of former times, including measles, mumps, chicken pox and rubella which entered the body through the mucous membranes served a necessary and positive purpose in challenging and strengthening the immune system of these membranes. Vaccines, in contrast, are injected directly into the body, consequently bypassing the mucous membranes, leaving the mucosal immunity relatively weak and stunted.”

    Harold Buttram MD, FCCP ‘Vaccines and Genetic Mutation’

    “A growing body of medical research supports the common-sense idea that children who experience frequent infections and inflammations in early childhood will strengthen their immune systems and will be less prone to allergies and asthma that children who rarely experience such infections…Just like everything else in nature, illness exists within a larger context of a balance system. There is an ecology of human illness, and if we attempt to eliminate a single element of nay ecological system, we disturb the balance of the whole in ways which can lead to unforeseen consequences.”
    Philip F. Incao, MD, Denver, Colorado

    “The best immunity is natural immunity. Contamination from vaccines, on the other hand, short circuits all the body’s first line of defense. It is dangerously misleading and indeed the exact opposite of the truth to claiming vaccines make is “immune” or protect against disease. In fact, it only drives disease deeper and causes us to harbor it chronically.”

    Richard Moscowitz MD ‘The Case against Immunizations’

    “While natural “wild” measles and mumps produce life-long immunity, the vaccine strains induce weaker responses to these viruses leading to susceptibility to more severe disease later in life.”
    Andrew Wakefield MD, FRCS, FRCPath

    “The mechanics of vaccination to build immunity is quite unnatural. Rather than space exposure to a relatively minuscule level of micro organisms in a gradual manner, quantities of antigens are introduced into the body through a series of vaccinations that are given in a row over a short period of time. All vaccines with the exception of the oral polio vaccine are injected directly into the bloodstream, by-passing the mucosal immune system know as the secretory IgA which is the first in a series of defensive levels within the immune system. It serves as a buffer, filtering microbes so that the impact of these invading organism is greatly reduced once it reaches the bloodstream. The IgA allows the antigen to be removed the same manner it arrived – through the mucosal barrier by sneezing, coughing and sweating. So a vaccine that has been injected gives the body no warning, no generalized inflammatory response, no chance to recognize, duplicate or defend itself against future challenges from typical antigens.”

    Robert Mendelsohn, MD, Professor of Pediatrics, ‘How to Raise a Healthy Child in spite of your Doctor’

    “What the promoters of vaccination fail to realize is that the respiratory tract of all mammals contain secretory IgA within the respiratory tract mucosa. Bypassing this mucosa aspect of the immune system directly injecting organism leads to a corruption of the immune system. As a result pathogenic viruses or bacteria cannot be eliminated by the immune system and remain in the body where they will further grow and/or mutate as the individual is exposed to ever more antigens and toxins in the environment. This is especially true with viruses grouped under the term “stealth adapted”…The mechanism by which the immune system is corrupted when you understand the two poles of the immunes system (the cellular and the humoral mechanism) have reciprocal relationship. Thus when one is stimulated the other is inhibited. Since vaccines activate the B cells to secrete antibody, the T cells are subsequently suppressed. This suppression of the cell mediated response is a key factor in the development of cancer and life threatening infections…”

    Rebecca Carley MD, VIDS Expert, ‘Inoculations: The True Weapon of Mass Deception’

    “Naturally acquired immunity by illness evolves by spread of a virus from the respiratory tract to the liver, thymus, spleen and bone marrow. When symptoms begin the entire immune response has been mobilized… Vaccination, in contrast, results in the persisting of live virus or other foreign antigens within the cells… a situation that may provoke auto-immune reactions as the body attempts to destroy its own infected cells.”
    James Howenstine MD, 12/7/03

  • VaccineRisks

    The doctor quoted in the article admitted again and again that he did not know what vaccines contain. The article has already been published in several magazines and distributed to several hundred doctors. Not one of them has responded!

  • karen

    My OB/GYN (who is also a pediatrician) didn’t believe me when I told him that there were other toxic chemicals in vaccines besides the Mercury (Thimersol) – after our 10 min. disagreement on vaccines back & forth – I went home & looked it up – & sure enough – right on the CDC website it states that common ingredients in vaccines are the mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, MSG etc… I was right & he was clueless!

  • Argus

    Clueless? For not ‘knowing’ what you think you know – a pack of lies and mistruths perpetuated by sites like this one?
    Now it is you that needs to demonstrate some actual knowledge. Please explain the difference between elemental mercury and an organomercury compound. Can you name which childhood vaccines in the current schedule actually contain any form of mercury?
    Then explain for us why the minute amount of aluminum in a single dose of vaccine is toxic, while much, much larger quantiies are consumed on a daily basis in food and drink.
    Formaldehyde – forget having to ingest it. The human body produces it constantly as a part of a metabolic process. What is already present is many times more than the small amount in a single shot.
    MSG? A food substance? Naturally found in savory foods. How is that a problem?
    Are you familiar with the concept that ‘the dose makes the poison’? That even water can be toxic in too large a quantity?
    We await your answers.

  • Argus

    “The doctor quoted in the article. . .” – you are just being funny, right? You do realize that this is totally fictional, don’t you?
    Clueless, indeed.

  • Karen

    Sorry if this is a repeat – I posted this last night & haven’t seen it yet…It’s quite funny how you think all these ingredients listed above are actually safe to be injected into our children’s bodies…ALL of them are toxic to the body! One of the big differences is the ROUTE of how it enters the body – not through “ingesting” it – but through direct injection into the bloodstream which immediately gets carried everywhere in the body = it doesn’t get the chance to “break down/filter” out as much harmful stuff as possible through the bodies natural means through the stomach/gastrointestinal route etc.
    Let’s see – Mercury is a known Neurotoxin -& is still listed as an ingredient in at least 1 DtaP vaccine, Meningococcal Vaccine & in multiple Flu/Influenza vaccines (last time I checked the CDC was now recommending Influenza shots every year for babies 6 mo. & older – wouldn’t that be on the schedule)?!
    See Table 1 & 3 http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228#t1
    Aluminum – Also known Neurotoxin on the brain – see below or just google it yourself for many other sources. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2671833
    If you want to see what the FDA classifies as a max dose per day of aluminum – see below…
    http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfCFR/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=201.323
    Let’s take the formula that talks about the premature Newborns (which is considered less than 37 weeks old) – since that’s what we’re talking about here – Babies & Vaccines. It states that an injection of aluminum at “greater than 4-5 mcg per kilogram of body weight per day, accumulate aluminum at levels associated with CNS & bone toxicity. Tissue loading may occur at even lower rates.” (1 kg = 2.2 lbs) So… let’s say a 6 lb. baby – about 11-14 mcg would be considered “toxic”. Now go look at the package inserts for the vaccines & you’ll find how much aluminum is in each dose given to the babies/toddlers
    http://www.immunize.org/packageinserts/pi_hepatitisb.asp
    Starting with of course the Hep B which is injected at birth… The Engerix B vaccine has .25 mg (which is 250 micrograms/mcg) of aluminum just in 1 shot. Which is about 20x higher than the safety levels. Then at their 2, 4, 6 months appt. – they get multiple vaccines with obviously even more aluminum for that day they go to their Dr.appt… You can do all the math yourself. So when you say that babies get just a very small “minute” amount of aluminum – WRONG! Who’s Clueless???
    Let’s move on to the Formaldehyde/Formalin – a KNOWN carcinogen (which means it causes cancer) see link below:
    http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/roc/twelfth/addendum.pdf
    The bodies own “metabolic process” isn’t the same as an actual chemical that is put into a syringe & injected into the body.
    It’s in almost all of the vaccines made – See below:
    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf
    Here are other toxic effects from Formaldehyde –
    http://jem.rupress.org/content/6/4-6/487.abstract
    Obviously, you think you know the amount of how much of the chemical formaldehyde is found in a single shot? I’d like to know that amount – if you have it…
    MSG – Another known Neurotoxin – is not a natural substance – that they have bottled up & can simply input into a syringe but rather the MSG they use for their vaccine ingredient is a man-made chemical “produced” & then added – & again it’s not “ingested” when entering the body like you think every ingredient is -based on what you state above – but rather “injected” into their bodies.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6145582
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18178378
    You’re quite naive to think that all these ingredients listed here & many others found in all the Vaccines wouldn’t have any type of Negative effect on children’s bodies… Oh yea, I forgot – They’re “safe & effective”. Have you looked up all the tens of thousands of reports on VAERS (government CDC) website? Or do you think all those adverse reactions reported are all Lies? Yea, you probably would. If you’d like more information – let me know!
    I await your answers.

  • The doctor in the article is asked questions about vaccines which he cannot answer. Neither can you, so you attempt to change the subject.

  • Because, like the doctor in the article, you cannot answer the questions you are trying to change the subject.

  • Argus

    Another one that thinks this is a ‘real’ interview of a ‘real’ doctor. Hilarious!

  • Ryan

    How many people on this site are NOT stay at home moms self educated on Vaccines.

    Show of hands please.

    Please keep in mind when reading about scientific things that correlation does not equal causation. If you are going to keep trying to educate yourselves I would prefer you started with the fundamentals so that you can later understand what you are reading.

  • Argus

    Try as you might, Karen, to sound like you know what you are talking about, this just doesn’t cut it. Have you actually read the articles you give as references? Do you understand that they make my point and do nothing to back your made-up claims?
    Your OB/GYN is not clueless. He or she is simply acquainted with science and proven cause and effect while you are not. No problem with that except you want to substitute things you made up (or read that someone else made up) for what you don’t know and understand.

  • Karen

    Yes, I have read the articles I posted & know what they say! Did you read them? Probably not. They don’t back up anything you say because they all say that those ingredients are bad for human bodies – not good. I haven’t made up anything – nor are any of my links “made-up”. All that I’ve said are “facts”! Maybe you just don’t like it because it doesn’t fit your opinion. – Let’s see your “proof” instead of your big talk like you know what you’re talking about. In all your comments I haven’t seen any yet! You just like to tell us that we’re all “Hilarious”. Just to let you know – I have been working in the medical field for over 10 years & I’ve seen first-hand that Dr’s don’t know everything like you think they do.

  • Doctor

    Wow. Have you actually asked a doctor these questions? I am only a medical student and I am able to answer all of these questions.

    1. Yes. It is well known by doctors that vaccines CAN cause anaphylactic shocks. This is the reason we monitor patients after the administration of vaccines and recommend certain actions in case of allergic reactions. It is also well known that vaccines CAN cause lifelong allergic reactions, but not any more than an exposure to the pure allergen in the natural environment.

    2. WebMD is a terrible source, but nonetheless, yes, it is known that penetrating rubber stoppers would lead to some contamination of the vaccine, however, the amount is so small that it is mostly insignificant, and if it does cause an allergic reaction, read the above. This is why we have adrenalin around ;).

    3. That is beyond our control, however, I can assure you that the benefits of vaccinations far outweigh the risks of rubber intoxication.

    4. Of course it cannot be guaranteed. This is ridiculous. It is like saying cleaning agents can not guarantee there will be a certain % of pathogens left on a surface due to the uncertainty of how many of those pathogens have developed immunity. However, the viruses in the vaccines, if there are any, are inactivated and hence do not produce much risk, if at all, to the patient. Sure, some vaccines can be reactivated, but the higher risk vaccines are always removed from the market if they were even released in the first place.

    5. Yes. I know there are mercury in certain vaccines, but the amount is so little it is usually insignificant. And the precautionary procedure you mentioned is why it is done, and hence, there is no need to worry unless your doctor is a complete idiot.

    6. Yes. Of course some vials would be contaminated. Just like how your water can be contaminated no matter how much you boil or filter it. I’m going to use your quote “Studies have demonstrated that the bacterial contamination rates of multiple-dose vials vary significantly… the contamination rate in published studies has been as low as 0% and as high as 27%”. What does the distribution curve look like? Is it skewed to the left or right? Don’t just state numbers. State the likelihood.

    7. Yes and No. Because if nobody can know this, how do you and your sources know this? And yes. it does contain some foreign DNA and prions but they have to be APPROVED to be SAFE for use before being placed in vaccines, like you state. So why are you worrying about these things? Also, foreign DNA is unable to affect your cells in any way unless an integrase is present as well to integrate it into your cells’ DNA. Where would they get the specific integrase from? Unless you are suggesting the vaccination companies are attempting to destroy humankind, including themselves? I don’t think they are stupid enough to do that. IF SO, why would they be administering the vaccines to THEIR OWN children? Please use some common sense.

    Conclusion: You are a poorly informed citizen who is misleading others who read your posts. Please take down this website or create a post correcting your mistakes. If you go down the wrong path, do not lead others down the same way. Your conclusion also make you sound very arrogant. There are many things you too do not know. Do not target the doctors just because we are the ones recommending vaccines. Although a lot of doctors earn a lot of money, it is not the reason why most people choose to be doctors. Most of us genuinely want to help others for the better and do our best to do so. Sure, drug companies have a different incentive, just like many industries do, and doctors do sometimes get mislead by false advertising. But when something is being used so widespread, it is usually because it has undergone vigorous testing procedures to ensure it causes more benefits than harm.

  • VaccineRisks

    You have not managed to answer any of the questions posed in the article. You do not know which GRAS (substances unrevealed due to trade secrets) are present. Neither do you know the extent of latex, rubber particles, microbial contamination, amounts of antigen, mercury, foreign DNA or prions in vaccines.

  • VaccineRisks

    Please discuss the points in the article.

  • Doctor

    I never tried to change the subject. I did not answer the questions to their full extent because they would require a lot of my time. Yes. I do know the extent of the ingredients you mentioned in vaccines. How about reading an article which answers all the myths mentioned in this page? http://www.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/content/1FC63A2886238E6CCA2575BD001C80DC/$File/full-publication-myths-and-realities-5th-ed-2013.pdf Get back to me once you’ve read that and are able to personally rebut against the evidence provided.

  • Doctor

    btw, pls tell me in what way I tried to change the subject?

  • Kate

    Wow. I never actually realised what bullshit I’ve been reading on this website all along! Thank you so much for the resource! I now feel so guilty about not immunising my children. Please, for all of you who read this, please reconsider your choices!

  • VaccineRisks

    Maybe you are not willing to use a lot of time, but the many doctors (in several countries) who have been posed the article’s relevant questions all admit that the questions cannot be answered. Thus they do not know what vaccines contain. That is the whole point of the article.

  • Michael

    You are truly ill informed and mislead. May god help you.

  • Doctor

    You have not yet read my resource and try to change the subject from my point on ‘what is really the truth’ to ‘what most doctors don’t know’. Talk about a hypocrite.

  • HealthyDoctor

    Sure, Kate. You couldn’t possibly be a pharma shill pretending to not vaccinate your children. If you were truly enlightened, you’d realize that “immunising” is not the same as vaccinating. Thanks for trolling. Go pick up your pharma bonus.

  • HealthyDoctor

    Correlation does not equal causation. So I guess that decrease in cases of measles following invention of measles vaccine does not equal causation. Never mind the fact that before the vaccine was ever invented, measles cases were already on a steep decline.

  • HealthyDoctor

    “Pack of lies”? So the CDC is lying about ingredients in the vaccines? Check it out. That toxic crap is in there.

    And you do realize the difference between ingestion and injection, right? What would happen if you injected water (not isotonic) into your veins as opposed to drinking it?

  • Katie Sera

    Most of us already put our children in danger by getting them vaccinated! I know this first hand. I gave birth to a beautiful, healthy baby boy and after he received 29 vaccines in his first two and a half years of life he started to change. I’ve heard the same story over and over again. If Doctors are so smart then why the hell don’t they know by this time what is to blame for all these sick kids? Too busy counting their money I suppose. If you’re so concerned why not encourage the big Pharma whores to take the garbage out of the vaccines?

  • Tanya

    Suggestion: learn to identify moles, like Argus, and don’t waste time arguing with them.

  • elnura

    From “Fear of the Invisible” by Janine Roberts. Roberts spent more than a decade attending Official Vaccine Meetings in the US and the UK. She has written extensively on what’s in vaccines and what the public has never been told. Here is an except from her book:

    -Dr Andrew Lewis, head of the DNA Virus Laboratory in the Division of Viral Products, then warned. ‘All the egg-based vaccines are contaminated,’ including ‘influenza, yellow fever and smallpox vaccines,as well
    as the vaccine for horses against encephalomyelitis virus’ for ‘these fertilised chicken eggs are susceptible to a wide variety of viruses.’

    *It was thus a shock to discover from this top-level
    scientific workshop that the viruses in our current vaccines are not in a sterile fluid as I had presumed, but in a soup of unknown bits and pieces, a veritable witches’ brew of DNA fragments, added chemicals, proteins and,even
    possibly prions and oncogenes, all of which would easily pass through the filters used to be injected into our children.

    Our vaccines, I thus learnt, are not filtered clean but are
    suspensions from the manufacturers’ ‘incubation tanks’ in which the viruses are produced from ‘substrates’ of mashed bird embryo, minced monkey kidneys or
    cloned human cells. These suspensions are filtered before use but only to remove particles larger than viruses. The point of the vaccine is that it contains viruses, thus these must not be filtered out. This means there remains in the
    vaccine everything of the same size or smaller, including what the manufacturers call ‘degradation products’ – parts of decayed viruses or cells.

    I also learnt that the only official checks made for
    contaminants in vaccines are for a few known pathogens, thus ignoring a vast host of unknown, unstudied, small particles and chemicals. These eminent doctors
    reported at these vaccine safety meetings that it is simply impossible to remove these from our common vaccines – and this would of course also apply to vaccines
    for pets, farm animals and birds. I went to the published reports of the MMR manufacturers and found these confirmed what the scientists at this workshop had
    reported. A manufacturer stated in 2000 that it made the MMR vaccine with ‘harvested virus fluids.’ It stated frankly that their ‘Measles vaccine bulk is an unpurified product whose potency was measured through a biological assay for the active substance rather than through evaluation of integrity of physical form. Degradation products are neither identified nor quantified.’ In other words, it left the latter in the measles vaccine along with all contaminants
    that lay there quietly, or worked slowly. The pharmaceutical company admitted checking the measles vaccine only for obviously active contaminates. It did not measure how much the vaccine was polluted with genetic code fragments, other viruses, or with parts of bacterial, animal, bird or human cells.

    Here is a website with some information from the book: http://reaids.com/fearoftheinvisible.com/
    She also has a followup book: “The Vaccine Papers”

    The unique feature about Roberts books is she names sources which gives enormous creditability to what she states. Every family should read these two book. It goes beyond stating that there is mercury, aluminum, aborted fetal cells, etc. You should also read the following:

    The Simpsonwood Transcript.

    Verstraeten CDC Internal Email: “It Just Won’t Go
    Away http://putchildrenfirst.org/media/2.7.pdf

    In June 2000, a group of top government scientists and health officials gathered for a meeting at the isolated Simpsonwood conference center in Norcross, Ga. Convened by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the meeting was held at this Methodist
    retreat center, nestled in wooded farmland next to the Chattahoochee River, to ensure complete secrecy. The agency had issued no public announcement of the
    session — only private invitations to 52 attendees. There were high-level officials from the CDC and the Food and Drug Administration, the top vaccine specialist from the World Health Organization in Geneva, and representatives of every major vaccine manufacturer, including GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, Wyeth and Aventis Pasteur. All of the scientific data under discussion, CDC officials
    repeatedly reminded the participants, was strictly “embargoed.” There would be no making photocopies of documents, no taking papers with them when they left.
    (My note: Excluding the media and the public from this meeting was illegal)

    The federal officials and industry representatives had
    assembled to discuss a disturbing new study that raised alarming questions about the safety of a host of common childhood vaccines administered to infants and young
    children. According to a CDC epidemiologist named Tom Verstraeten, who had analyzed the agency’s massive database containing the medical records of 100,000
    children, a mercury-based preservative in the vaccines — thimerosal — appeared to be responsible for a dramatic increase in autism and a host of other neurological disorders among children. “I was actually stunned by what I saw,” Verstraeten told those assembled at Simpsonwood, citing the staggering number of
    earlier studies that indicate a link between thimerosal and speech delays, attention-deficit disorder, hyperactivity and autism. Since 1991, when the CDC and the FDA had recommended that three additional vaccines laced with the preservative be given to extremely young infants — in one case, within hours of birth — the estimated number of cases of autism had increased fifteenfold, from
    one in every 2,500 children to one in 166 children. (My
    note: There has been a 30% increase in Autism since 2012.)

    Transcripts of meeting can be found: Scientific Review of
    Vaccine Safety Datalink Information June 7-8, 2000 Simpsonwood Retreat Center Norcross, Georgia. http://www.thinktwice.com/simpwood.pdf

    Analysis of the transcript: The Truth Behind the Vaccine Coverup: Russell L. Blaylock, MD Medical Verdais
    http://medicalveritas.com/manBlaylock.pdf

    Deadly Immunity: The Mercury Coverup: http://www.thinktwice.com/Kennedy.pdf

    Vaccine Industry Watchdog Obtains CDC Documents That
    Show Statistically Significant Risks of Autism Associated with Vaccine Preservative Thimerosal Biochemist Brian Hooker, scientific advisor to A Shot of Truth, reveals CDC knew of risks for over a decade.
    http://www.prweb.com/releases/ASOT/Thimerosal/prweb11598819.htm

    Notes:
    Quotes from the transcript from this meeting was obtained through a FOIA request by parents.

    Dr. Verstraeten, pg. 40-41: “…we have found statistically significant relationships between the exposure and outcomes for these different exposures and outcomes. First, for two months of age, an unspecified developmental delay, which has its own specific ICD9 code. Exposure at three months of age, Tics. Exposure at six months of age, an attention deficit disorder. Exposure at one, threeand six months of age, language and
    speech delays, which are two separate ICD9 codes. Exposures at one, three and six months of age, the entire category of neurodevelopmental delays, which
    includes all of these plus a number of other disorders.”

    Dr. Bernier, pg. 113: “We have asked you to keep this information confidential. We do have a plan for discussing these data at the upcoming meeting of the Advisory
    Committee of Immunization Practices on June 21 and June 22. At that time CDC plans to make a public release of this information so I think it would serve all
    of our interests best if we could continue to consider these data. The ACIP work group will be considering also. If we could consider these data in a certain protected environment. So we are asking people who have a great job protecting this information up until now, to continue to do that until the time of the ACIP meeting. So to basically consider this embargoed information.”

    Dr. Verstraeten, pg. 165: “Personally,I have three hypotheses. My first hypothesis is it is parental bias.
    The children that are more likely to be vaccinated
    are more likely to be picked and diagnosed. Second hypothesis, I don’t know. There is a bias that I have not recognized, and nobody has yet told me about it.
    Third hypothesis. It’s true, it’s Thimerosal. Those are my
    hypotheses.”

    Dr. Johnson, pg. 198: “This association leads me to favor a recommendation that infants up to two years old not be immunized with Thimerosal containing vaccines if
    suitable alternative preparations are available. I do
    not believe the diagnoses justifies compensation in the Vaccine Compensation Program at this point. I deal with causality, it seems pretty clear to me that the data are not sufficient one way or the other. My gut feeling? It
    worriesme enough. Forgive this personal comment, but I got called out of an eight o’clock for an emergency call and my daughter-in-law delivered her son by
    C-section. Our first male in the line of the next generation, and I do not want that grandson to get a Thimerosal containing vaccine until we know better what is going on. It will probably take a long time. In the meantime, and I know there are probably implications for this internationally, but in the meantime I think I want that grandson to only be given Thimerosal-free vaccines.”

    Dr. Weil of the AAP, pg. 207: “The number of dose related relationships are linear and statistically significant. You can play with this all you want. They are linear. They are statistically significant. The positive relationships
    are those thatone might expect from the Faroe Islands studies. They are also related to those data we do have on experimental animal data and similar to the
    neurodevelopmental tox data on other substances, so that I think you can’t accept that this is out of the ordinary. It isn’t out of the ordinary.”

    Dr. Clements, pg 247- 249: “I am really concerned that we
    have taken off like a boat going down one arm of the mangrove swamp at high speed, when in fact there was not enough discussion really early on about which
    was the boat should go at all. And I really want to risk offending everyone in the room by saying that perhaps this study should not have been done at all,
    because the outcome of it could have, to some extent, been predicted, and we have all reached this point now where we are left hanging, even though I hear the majority of consultants say to the Board that they are not convinced there is a causality direct link between Thimerosal and various neurological outcomes.”

    “I know how we handle it from here is extremely problematic. The ACIP is going to depend on comments
    from this group in order to move forward into policy, and I have been advised that whatever I say should not move
    into the policy area because that is not the point of this meeting. But nonetheless, we know from many experiences in history that the pure scientist
    has done research because of pure science. But that pure science has resulted in splitting the atom or some other process, which is completely beyond the power
    of the scientists who did the research to control it. And what we have here is people who have, for every best reason in the world, pursued a direction of research. But there is not the point at which the research results have to be handled, and even if this committee decides that there is no association and that information gets out, the work that has been done and through the freedom
    of information that will be taken by others and will be used in ways beyond the control of this group. And I am very concerned about that as I suspect it already too late to do anything regardless of any professional body and what
    they say.”

    “My mandate as I sit here in this group is to make sure at the end of the day the 100,000,000 are immunized with DTP, Hepatitis B and if possible Hib, this year, next year and for many years to come, and that will have to be with Thimerosal containing vaccines unless a miracle occurs and an alternative is found quickly and is tried and found to be safe.”

    “So I leave you with the challenge that I am very concerned that this has gotten this far, and that having got this far, how you present in a concerted voice the
    information to the ACIP in a way they will be able to handle it and not get exposed to the traps which are out there in public relations. My message would be that any other study, and I like the study that has just been described here very much. I think it makes a lot of sense, but it has to be thought through. What are the potential outcomes and how will you handle it? How will it
    be presented to a public and media that is hungry for selecting the information they want to use for whatever means they in store for them?…but I wonder how on earth you are going to handle it from here.”

    When you read through this information you will see that the agenda of the “Vaccine Industry” is not to improve the health, happiness and well being of humanity, it is to push their next vaccine, to create another vaccine and push it. Third world countries actually fare worst than the West because their is no concern about the dangerous chemicals in those drugs. In terms of what the unpublished ingredients in vaccines are-Roberts is the only source I have read that reveals it.

    I hope this is helpful.

  • chooseawareness

    Your answers are the very reason I as a mother will not allow you or someone like you to care medically for my children.

  • Jenn

    So what you would call a small risk high reward…my son now faces life long struggles of ASD due to adverse affects bc of someone spewing unproved claims of how to “protect” him. So I now educate myself on what I put in my body and the bodies of my children to keep them out of danger of chemicals metals aborted fetal cells and whatever else these ppl put in something and try to sell us

  • jon

    Wow. Mr medical student. You are a great puppet. You have studied what you have been taught well. Congratulations.
    Are you aware that 70% of what you are taught in medical school is written by the pharmaceutical industry?
    You say you are there to do do more good than harm. Do u actually believe that playing Russian roulette with children’s life is OK because u have adrenaline there just in case! !are u serious@! Are you that confident in your abilities that you know 100% u can save a life if a fatal reaction does occur?? U are now the one sounding arrogant.
    I would encourage you to look at the history Te diseases children are vaccinated against. In particular the natural decline of these illnesses before vaccinations where introduced. Then look at how the number of children infected has continued and still continues to rise since vaccinations where introduced. . Not to mention the MASSIVE increase of many other serious diseases along with auto immune disorders . You owe it to yourself and your patients to have at least looked into these facts.
    Thank you

  • jon

    Ha. If u actually followed your own advice, you would find the majority of parents who do not vaccinate are highly educated people. This is a fact and has even been expressed via the media

  • NaturalMamaNZ

    It always amazes me how many vaccine pushers think they’re really smart and everyone else is dumb, yet they try to compare eating a toxic substance with injecting it! Really?? Mind boggling stupidity.

  • NaturalMamaNZ

    You got proven wrong so badly lol. Thanks for the laugh.

  • NaturalMamaNZ

    Sometimes I think replying with well thought out and cited responses is great, especially for those who may come to the site and read this article, then read a comment from someone like Argus. They may actually believe what Argus has to say without bothering to research it. Correcting misinformation isn’t so much about proving the person you’re debating wrong, but about leaving correct information there for others who may come to the site and read the comments.

  • I know what ATP is

    Let’s see…Allergic reaction – or death by measles? I hope you’ll love burying your child with a tiny baby coffin when you choose not to vaccinate your child.

  • That’s assuming I’m able to even have children at all. Nice try. IBS and candidiasis are not simply allergic reactions. Severe illness that lasts for years? Try your fear-mongering tactics on someone who’s not been there, someone uneducated because they won’t work on me. I’d also recommend taking up a class in having some heart because you’re a real asshole.

  • I didn’t, actually, until after being I’d been vaccinated, unfortunately. :( Thank you for sharing. I truly appreciate it! Bookmarked that because I noticed a lot of info that I’d want to look deeper into, that I had totally not even noticed when researching about it before, when I first realized there was a problem. Thank you :)

  • Oscar Llamas Miranda

    Your children, your responsibility if your children get sick and die because you don’t want to give them vaccines.

  • Oscar Llamas Miranda

    Yes he does seem to be a good student, unlike some here who can’t even write proper english, much less understand the importance of vaccines.

  • Oscar Llamas Miranda

    Such doctors they do not know because they are ignorant, but just because some of them don’t know it doesn’t mean all doctors ignore it, nor it means vaccines don’t work or are harmful.

  • Oscar Llamas Miranda

    Dear Doctor, don’t waste any more of your time talking to these people, go back to your studies and saving people using vaccines, some of them will recognize it, some won’t, what you say won’t make a big difference, but what you do probably will. Thank you.

  • Oscar Llamas Miranda

    “Highly educated” doesn’t mean they can’t be ignorant about this subject. Because, well… they are ignorant. :)

  • Oscar Llamas Miranda

    Mr. “Moderator”, can you explain it? Giving good sources with good scientific data?

  • Oscar Llamas Miranda

    He may be an asshole, but still the benefits of using vaccines outweigh the risks.

  • Oscar Llamas Miranda

    They are right, hopelessness is what they feel when they see so many people like you avoiding to use vaccines.

  • Oscar Llamas Miranda

    As a shaman you mean? :)

  • Kate

    No they are not! Parents of vaccine injured children do their research. How do I know this??? I am one. Most doctors can’t even tell you what is in the vaccines. I asked my son’s Pediatrician to justify wanting to give, my already autistic son a meningitis vaccine. This vaccine contains 2 forms of aluminum and Formaldyhyde. He didn’t have a clue that these 2 poisons were in the vaccines.

  • Jason

    I find it interesting that these ‘so called medical experts’ whether they be students or doctors will routinely dismiss the ‘stay at home moms’ as being unable to study and formulate educated decisions based on real research into these problems. I am certain that this is a part of a much larger problem of a predominantly male run system. These vaccine pushers are quite misogynistic in their comments. The evidence against vaccines is out there indeed and those with a vested interest will and can find the truth about the poisons in them. Indeed most medical students are nothing more than drug pushers working indirectly for companies such as Merck and GlaxoSmithKline. It is a shame that these medical experts defend their institutions instead of the people whom they were sworn to protect.

  • AutismDad

    Major League Troll

  • dontWorryaboutIt

    Which doctor are you referring to? Do you even know what theses things are? Thiomersal’s main use is as an antiseptic and antifungal agent. In multidose injectable drug delivery systems, it prevents serious adverse effects such as the staphyloccocus infection that, in one 1928 incident, killed 12 of 21 children inoculated with a diptheria vaccine that lacked a preservative.(http://chem.sis.nlm.nih.gov/chemidplus/rn/54-64-8)

  • Prasad Johannessen

    The only “safety” study done with thimerosal was in the late 20’s where 22 people with meningitis where given injections containing 1% thimerosal. Shortly after receiving the injections, they all died. This subject and other dangers of thimerosal is covered in the documentary “Trace Amounts”.

  • Angelika Stalman

    it always comes down to those stay at home moms to safe humanity from itself. Those oh so highly educated doctors used to tell us DDT is safe, lead in paint is safe, asbestos is safe, smoking is safe, even uranium was considered safe. So yes, when it comes to the health of my children, I prefer the highly researched, well educated opinion of someone who’s not indoctrinated or bought, but uses her intellect, pure common sense and motherly instinct.

  • Angelika Stalman

    Right because highly ignorant, gullible, indoctrinated, and sleep deprived med students have a clue :-)

  • Janet Schaffner

    I have never had a doctor monitor either of my children or my elderly father after vaccination….. In fact, I’ve very rarely even been told “call us if you see ________”. Too bad every doctor didn’t go to your medical school!

  • Trond Meier

    Sandy is a Norwegian anti-vacc activist who rather want to see kids sick than vaccinated. She is a dangerous woman who should be ignored to silence.