Why the Documentary Vaxxed is so Controversial and Important to Support

Recently Dr. Andrew Wakefield directed the documentary Vaxxed to educate the public about autism in general, and more specifically to address the coverup of the 2004 research connecting the MMR vaccine to autism. Gastroenterologist Wakefield has become a champion for the autism community, which stands behind Wakefield’s dedication and work to help the growing numbers of children suffering from autism. Dr. Wakefield’s work has focused on alleviating the gastrointestinal distress often accompanying patients of autism. [1]

The movie Vaxxed is controversial because the coverup of the MMR vaccine connection to autism has far-reaching implications for the very deep corruption in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the thousands of children who have suffered from a devastating disease that could have been avoided. Discrediting this information and keeping it from the public’s attention is paramount for the pharmaceutical companies that profit from vaccines. [2,3]

Congressional Testimony Exposes The Truth Of The Vaccine-Autism Coverup

On July 29, 2015, Congressman Bill Posey presented details of omission and destruction of study records by colleagues of Dr. William Thompson, senior scientist at the CDC. Dr. Thompson admitted that the destroyed 2004 study results showed a connection between the MMR vaccination and autism in African-American infants.

The following are parts of an unofficial transcript prepared by Adriana Gamones of the Age of Autism. The video may be viewed to hear the contents of the congressional report.

Congressman Bill Posey (R-FL) speaks at 1:02:29.

Original Link: http://www.c-span.org/video/?327309-1/us-house-morning-hour&live

Congressman Posey reported:

“In August, 2014, Dr. William Thompson, a senior scientist at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention worked with a whistleblower attorney to provide my office with documents related to a 2004 CDC study that examined the possibility of a relationship between the mumps, measles and rubella vaccines and autism. In a statement released in August, 2014, Dr. Thompson stated, ‘I regret that my co-authors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the Journal of Pediatrics.’

Mr. Speaker, I respectfully request the following excerpts from the statement written by Dr. Thompson be entered into record.”

Now, quoting Dr. Thompson:

“My primary job duties while working in the Immunization Safety Branch from 2000 to ’06 were lead or co-lead three major vaccine safety studies—the MADDSP MMR Autism Cases Control study was being carried out in response to the Wakefield Lancet study that suggested an association between the MMR vaccine and an autism-like health outcome. There were several major concerns among scientists and consumer advocates outside the CDC in the fall of 2000 regarding the execution of the Verstraeten study.

One of the important goals that was determined up front in the spring of ’01, before any of these studies started, was to have all three protocols vetted outside the CDC prior to the start of the analyses so that consumer advocates could not claim that we were presenting analyses that presented our own goals and biases. We hypothesized that if we found statistically significant effects at either 18 or 36 month thresholds, we would conclude that vaccinating children early with MMR could lead to autism-like characteristics or features. We all met and finalized the study protocol and analysis plan. The goal was to not deviate from the analysis plan to avoid the debacle that occurred with the Verstraeten thimerosal study published in Pediatrics in’03. At the September 5th meeting, we discussed in detail how to code race for both the sample and the birth certificate sample.

At the bottom of Table 7 it also shows that for the non-birth certificate sample, the adjusted race effect statistical significance was huge. All the authors and I met and decided sometime between August and September ’02 not to report any race effects for the paper. Sometime soon after the meeting, we decided to exclude reporting any race effects, the co-authors scheduled a meeting to destroy documents related to the study. The remaining four co-authors all met and brought a big garbage can into the meeting room and reviewed and went through all the hard copy documents that we had thought we should discard and put them in a huge garbage can. However, because I assumed it was illegal and would violate both FOIA and DOJ requests, I kept hard copies of all documents in my office and I retained all associated computer files. I believe we intentionally withheld controversial findings from the final draft of the Pediatrics paper.”

Congressman Bill Posey continued:

“Mr. Speaker, I believe it’s our duty to ensure that the documents that Dr. Thompson provided are not ignored. Therefore I will provide them to members of Congress and the house committees upon request. Considering the nature of the whistleblower’s documents, as well as the involvement of the CDC, a hearing and a thorough investigation is warranted. So, I ask Mr. Speaker, I beg, I implore my colleagues on the appropriations committees to please, please take such action. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, I yield back.” [4, 5]

Blackout By Mainstream Media Of Coverup Of MMR Vaccine-Autism Study Results

While this important news was covered widely by the alternative media sources, as usual, there was virtually a blackout by mainstream media. This reality is fairly well known, accepted and criticized by those in the holistic health community. It explains why alternative news sources are so critical for those seeking news outside of sources supporting conventional medicine protocols.

Mainstream media is funded largely by their advertisers. Pharmaceutical companies comprise a large part of media’s funding dollars. [6]

The powers and pressures yielded by pharmaceutical companies are immense. Pharmaceutical dollars influence physicians, members of Congress and news reporting. It is quite likely that they impacted the showing of the Vaxxed movie at the Tribeca Film Festival. [7]

Vaxxed Was Removed From The Tribeca Film Festival, But Picked Up By Cinema Libre

The important Vaxxed documentary was scheduled to be shown at the Tribeca Film Festival, but was pulled after extreme pressure for its removal. Cinema Libre picked up the film and is in the process of showing the film throughout the US.

Cinema Libre Chairman Philippe Diaz said in a statement:

“We chose to distribute this film to correct a major issue, which is the suppression of medical data by a governmental agency that may very well be contributing to a significant health crisis. The media storm of last week also revealed another issue: the hyper-mediatization by some members of the media and the documentary community who had not even seen the film, as well as Tribeca executives, which condemned it as anti-vaccine.”

Richard Castro, head of distribution, said, ‘It’s disturbing that an American film festival can succumb so easily to pressure to censor a film that it has already selected and announced. On Friday I received a call from Tribeca executives expressing concerns about showing the film, but no opportunity was afforded our filmmakers to even address those concerns. When I questioned the rationale, it was indicated that sponsors’ interest was a factor.’” [8]

Robert DeNiro And The Vaxxed Movie

Robert DeNiro is one of the founders of the Tribeca Film Festival, now in its fifteenth year. In an interview on the Today show, DeNiro supported the contents of the film Vaxxed and he emphasized the importance of the film being viewed.

He called out mainstream investigative journalists for failing to do their jobs and implored them to actually investigate the connection between vaccinations and autism. DeNiro shared that he has an 18 year-old child who suffers from autism and that his wife recalls their child’s regression following the MMR vaccine. DeNiro is personally touched by autism and wants research done that will uncover causes and treatments. [9]

Respected Medical Journalist Del Bigtree And Vaxxed

Del Bigtree is an Emmy award-winning medical journalist who produced the film Vaxxed. In an excellent interview, Bigtree revealed how he became acquainted with Dr. Andrew Wakefield and made the decision to produce the important documentary.

When questioned as to his objective in producing the film Vaxxed, Bigtree stated:

“I want the media to be held accountable for the weeks and weeks of covering a measles outbreak at Disneyland, terrifying people when only 644 people were affected. That’s .000002% of the people in this country, which effectively translates to zero, when one in 45 kids is now diagnosed with autism. I’d like the media to explain why it won’t cover the story of a top CDC scientist who admits they committed fraud on the MMR study when they discovered a causal link between the vaccine and autism, a disease that is accelerating so fast it could spell the end of our society. If that’s not a story, what is?

I also hope the film will be a tipping point that will allow tons of doctors to come forward and admit they’ve long known there’s a link between vaccines and autism. It should create questions among mainstream audiences about the whole nature of safety testing in medicine. Drugs have to undergo rigorous studies which are far more expensive than the limited safety work done with vaccines. I want parents to realize that their kids’ vaccines are not being appropriately studied—they haven’t been studied nearly as well as Viagra. We’ve been playing Russian roulette with the health of the children in this country.” [10]

The Media’s Expected, Biased, Unfair Response To Vaxxed

A quick news search will reveal tremendous media support maintaining the denial between the MMR vaccine and autism. Wakefield is painted as a quack and demonized unfairly, while the movie Vaxxed is criticized severely. [11-14]

Use Of Quackery Label To Discredit Alternative Medicine

The esteemed and brilliant physician Dr. Andrew Wakefield is commonly portrayed by conventional physicians and mainstream media as a quack. The use of the term quackery is calculated and meant to immediately discredit any individual or treatment which threatens the profits of mainstream medical practices.

This strategy to demonize any health practice, research or physician which threatens conventional medicine protocols is longstanding. It began early in the history of medicine. Quackery name calling has aggressively been used to destroy the reputations of chiropractors, along with successful practitioners who safely treated and cured cancer patients using alternative treatments. [15]

Why See And Support The Film Vaxxed: From Cover-Up To Catastrophe

Vaxxed is an excellent film that exposes the truth about autism and the coverup of research connecting the MMR vaccination to autism. The documentary includes many important experts. It provides information that cannot be obtained from mainstream media.

The film includes interviews with Dr. Brian Hooker, with whom Dr. Thompson leaked documents. Vaxxed also interviews several autism experts and physicians, including Dr. Doreen Granpeesheh, Mark Blaxill, and Dr. James Sears. Former drug representatives and Representative Bill Posey are also included in the film. [16]

The NYC Movie Guru gave Vaxxed an excellent review on April 1, 2016. The following is a small excerpt from his review:

“The controversial doc Vaxxed: From Cover-Up to Catastrophe, about the CDC’s cover-up of data in a 2004 study that links MMR (Measles-Mumps-Rubella) vaccines to autism, will open your eyes to the corruption of a government agency whose job is to protect public welfare. Dr. Andrew Wakefield, the film’s director, combines fair and balanced interviews with sources ranging from parents of autistic children who were harmed by MMR vaccines to politicians, doctors and a former pharmaceutical rep along with archival footage of congressional audio recordings of Dr. William Thompson, CDC whistleblower who called Dr. Brian Hooker, a biologist, to confess that the CDC had covered-up and even manipulated crucial data in the 2004 study. Vaxxed does bring up the fact that Dr. Wakefield was accused of fraud in his 1998 report on MMR vaccines and autism, but he was falsely accused.” [17]

For more information, see Vaxxed: From Cover-Up to Catastrophe.


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  1. http://www.ageofautism.com/2011/01/autism-advocacy…
  2. http://www.ageofautism.com/2016/04/did-the-cdc-censor-vaxxed…
  3. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/04/big-profits-linked-to-vaccine-mandates.aspx
  4. http://www.c-span.org/video/?327309-1/us-house-morning-hour&live
  5. http://www.ageofautism.com/2015/07/breaking-news-congressman-posey…
  6. http://www.activistpost.com/2013/12/the-case-against-corporate-media-and.html
  7. https://vactruth.com/2016/03/22/why-doctors-recommend-vaccinations/
  8. http://variety.com/2016/film/news/vaxxed-anti-vaccine-documentary-cinema-libre-1201741603/
  9. http://www.today.com/video/robert-de-niro-on-anti-vaccine-film-controversy…
  10. http://www.autismfile.com/uncategorized/vaxxed-the-powerful-new-documentary…
  11. http://www.medicaldaily.com/vaxxed-andrew-wakefield-anti-vaccination-380555
  12. http://www.businessinsider.com/angelika-is-showing-vaxxed-documentary-that-tribeca-yanked…
  13. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/anti-vaccine-doc-vaxxed-a-882651
  14. http://www.pbs.org/pov/blog/docsoup/2016/04/andrew-wakefield-vaxxed-documentary-autism/
  15. http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/history/quackery.htm
  16. http://variety.com/2016/film/news/vaxxed-anti-vaccine-documentary-cinema-libre-1201741603/
  17. http://nycmovieguru.com/april1st16.html#vaxxed

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Michelle Goldstein is a mental health therapist who is passionate about holistic health, natural healing, nutrient-dense foods and the politics that impact them. She has published articles for Natural News, VacTruth, and other health websites. All of her published articles to date can be found at her health website, Holistic Health to Go. She can also be followed on her Facebook Page.

  • The truth is vaccines have not saved any lives, usually it was better hygiene and better hand washing which lowered diseases. Let’s tell the REAL truth here that ALL vaccines are dangerous, unnessary and clearly toxic as hell! No one needs them and no baby should be jabbed with such toxic crap in their bloodstream ever! I was a nurse and left nursing because of this and other horrific examples of some psychopath’s ideas of healing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Want protection, give your children a good healthy diet and breast feed your babies, as long as you are healthy! But this speaker is at least trying to get to the truth and as you can see, nothing happened! Vaccines money is big money and Big Pharma does not give a damn if your kids die from their money maker!!!!!!!!!!!! Wake UP People you are being USED and ABUSED and so are your INNOCENT BABIES AND CHILDREN who depend on YOU! Do your research!

  • guest

    I found out yesterday that VAXXED is showing in a theater in a nearby city near me. There are multiple showing over the weekend and word is people are in negotiations for an extended showing.

  • Lee Reikert

    Interesting that about 40 years ago as I was about to go out on my own, my mother told me, “don’t ever, ever be talked into getting another vaccine. Tell them you’re allergic.” So I did and have never gotten another vaccine of any sort. My mother has been gone a long time, but I thank God for her advice. I didn’t follow her advice for one of my young dogs who received ONE parvo vaccine and reacted and died. ONE FREAKING VACCINE!!!!!! I still kick myself for allowing pressure from a stupid vet to sway me. My poor, lovely Jack died a horrendous death. Well, never again. The minute VAXXED was thrown out of Tribeca, I called our amazing local cinema asking them to show it here once it becomes available. They show loads of documentaries and are the best cinema ever. I’m sure it’ll be here soon.

  • Planet Autism

    What I can’t understand is WHY they are only raising the issue of black children getting autism after MMR as reporter Ben Swann’s video (“the data the CDC destroyed show MMR-autism correlation in *2 groups*, children with ‘isolated’ autism [without other conditions such as retardation, cerebral palsy, epilepsy etc.] given the MMR before 36 months and African American male children given the MMR before 36 months” https://www.facebook.com/BenSwannRealityCheck/videos/1043476625717287/) clearly states it’s also white children with isolated autism. Nobody seems to be raising this issue.

  • The documentary “Vaxxed” is only scratching the surface.
    When I did the research for my book on the HPV vaccines (alas only in Dutch), I went down the rabbit hole of the history of vaccination and Western patent medicine.
    NOTHING, I repeat: NOTHING in the theory of vaccination (Jenner and Pasteur) has anything to do with the natural reality of the immune system.
    The only things vaccines do is (1) compromise the immune system, (2) induce autoimmune diseases, (3) load the human genome with DNA and RNA of other species (yes, we become chimeras!) and (4) next to the manipulated pathogens put many toxic metals and chemicals into the body.
    Some recipients have an immediate anaphylactic shock and die instantly or remain damaged for the rest of their life, or stop breathing (SIDS) on one of the more critical days after vaccination (non-specific stress syndrome, Selye/Scheibner), or land into a mega scurvy with hemorrhages and broken bones (“Shaken Baby Syndrome).


    The homeopathic nosodes really do work. Some people say there is too little vaccine in it to have any effect as it is so diluted but my son had his sisters dosages and his own, all in one dose….and he contracted whooping cough with a very bloodshot eye, a slightly bloodshot eye and a swollen scrotum. He would cough all night and whoop and he was unwell for a long time..


    Is it possible that the African American and white trash neighbourhoods get different vaccines from the posh kosher sections?

  • LouboutinGirl

    I thought the same damn thing!! It’s as if the white children are of no importance when in reality all these children of all races all have the same disorder. I bet they know the antidote. Bastards!

  • Bill Pembry

    Or maybe he got whooping cough because he wasn’t vaccinated for it.

  • Bill Pembry

    When you Google anti-vax sites day after day you can believe a lot of crazy.

  • brothersun

    That’s a broad sweeping statement that you are making with no knowledge of the specific cases that are being reported. How about look at several hundred cases of children who were perfectly normal and healthy, and following one or more vaccinations, became seriously ill, disabled, or died within a few days. Analyze each case and see if you can find an alternative cause for the sudden change in their health. If you cannot, then I respectfully suggest STFU. http://HearTheSilence.org

  • guest

    Or maybe he got whooping cough from a recently vaccinated child/adult as stated by two recent studies:

    Study titled: “Acellular Pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a nonhuman primate model,” used infant baboons to test the hypothesis that “current acellular pertussis vaccines fail to prevent colonization and transmission” of B. Pertussis. (there is no vaccine for Bordetella Pertussis virus) http://www.pnas (dot) org/content/111/2/787

    Lead author Tod Merkel commented to the New York Times that when exposed to B. Pertussis after recently getting vaccinated, you could be an asymptomatic carrier and infect others, saying:

    “When you’re newly vaccinated, you are an asymptomatic carrier, which is good for you, but not for the population.” According to Tod Merkel of the FDA, it has now become clear that the vaccine does almost nothing to prevent the spread of whooping cough. Although it does seem to prevent about 80 percent of people from showing symptoms of the disease, it does not prevent them from catching it or spreading it.

    Most current study:
    Study: Whooping cough resurgence due to vaccinated people not knowing they’re infectious? clinicalnews(dot)org/2015/06/24/study-whooping-cough-resurgence-due-to-vaccinated-people-not-knowing-theyre-infectious/comment-page-1/. From study/article:

    “a detailed epidemiological model of whooping cough transmission to conclude that acellular vaccines may well have contributed to — even exacerbated — the recent pertussis outbreak by allowing infected individuals without symptoms to unknowingly spread pertussis multiple times in their lifetimes.

    ‘There could be millions of people out there with just a minor cough or no cough spreading this potentially fatal disease without knowing it,’ said Althouse. ‘The public health community should act now to better assess the true burden of pertussis infection.’

    What’s worse, their model shows that if the disease can be spread through vaccinated, asymptomatic individuals essentially undetected.

    Departments of Bacteriology and “Production, National Bacteriological Laboratory,
    S-105 21 Stockholm, Sweden
    J MFD MICROBIOL -VOL I5 (1982). 85 96
    ( 1982 The Pathological Society of Great Britain and Ireland)

    -The Return OF Pertussis: James W. Bass MD, MPH; WITTLER, ROBERT R. MD

  • Ruth

    There’s a difference between belief, research and questioning long held scientific dogma. Some people do that, some people don’t. It’s the people that just accept what they’re told without question and then try and force it on others who are really annoying. But, then some people are paid to do that to.

  • Ruth

    Perhaps the experiment or research that William Thomson was whistle-blowing on (in the movie Vaxxed) had mostly black participants? It’s just a thought. Big pharma’s response would be the same in any case and all these organizations seem to be interconnected and have very big problems with conflict of interest.

  • Ruth

    Good, it’s kind of weird that the ‘reaction’ by the so called ‘experts’ had the opposite effect of what was intended. People SHOULD question those in authority and SHOULD expect the CDC to have high standards. If not, then what’s the point of their existence in the first place? Personally I’m tired of mainstream media criticizing this film without actually seeing it and without actually discussing the topic. They’ve made it into a bash Wakefield fest. It’s stupid and childish.

  • Bill Pembry

    You can’t analyze testimonials on YouTube.

  • Bill Pembry

    How was smallpox eradicated then?

  • Bill Pembry

    You’re saying getting the acellular pertussis vaccine makes you an asymptomatic carrier. Think about that.

  • Planet Autism

    Well if that were the case (which I have to doubt) that would smack of racial profiling and also even more importantly, would evidence they were testing the black group for a reason – that reason being they suspected something was wrong!

  • Planet Autism

    It seems like a hint at racism to get it in the media (such as ‘look, they aren’t bothered about the black children’), but it’s worrying as all the affected children matter and actually it hinders their case more by hiding the other group of children. They need to hang out the whole damn dirty lot of laundry!

  • LouboutinGirl

    The CDC did the same with the Tuskegee Experiment. All African-Americans were their target subjects. I am really puzzled and disturbed by this.
    I also believe that the Pharmaceutical companies lawsuit exemption should be lifted and they should no longer be protected. The CDC knew and they lied. I think that should make their protection null and void!

  • guest

    Tell the researchers to think about it, not me. Go to the study and on the journal page you can voice your objections to their conclusion. While we wait for their response please provide your scientific academic credentials, your research credential, list of studies you personally have executed and other researchers that support the conclusions of the studies. Please provide where you are currently employed as a medical researcher and specifically all studies you have executed on the Pertussis vaccine. Do your best not to digress into childish, sarcasm, pettiness and distracting comments as you usually do in your responses. Just provide the science.

  • nworder

    When you lie for a living you will eventually become crazy – if you not already

  • nworder


    “It is pathetic and ludicrous to say we ever vanquished smallpox with vaccines, when only 10% of the population was ever vaccinated.”

    Dr. Glen Dettman PhD, Australia

    John Tilden

    “There is no question but that perfect sanitation has almost obliterated this disease (smallpox) and sooner or later will dispose of it entirely. Of course when that time comes, in all probability the credit will be given to vaccination.”

    John Tilden MD (1851-1940)

  • nworder

    Me and everyone else I knew got whooping cough naturally – it was no problem for anyone I know. Much safer than a live germ pumped direct into the bloodstream .

  • nworder


    “There is just overwhelming data that there’s an association between the pertussis vaccine and seizures. I know it has influenced many pediatric neurologists not to have their own children immunized with pertussis.”

    Dr. Jerome Murphy, former Head of Pediatric Neurology, Milwaukkee Children’s Hospital

    Administration of pertussis vaccine causes a variety of reactions…encephalopathy and neurological disturbances which have been occasionally observed and in rare cases produces severe brain damage and ever death.
    Japanese Journal of Medical Science and Biology, 1985
    Archie Kalokerinos

    “Only after realizing that routine immunizations were dangerous did I achieve substantial drop of infant death rates. The worst vaccine of all is the whooping cough (pertussis) vaccine…It is responsible for a lot of deaths and for a lot of infants suffering irreversible brain damage. In susceptible infants it knocks their immune systems out, leading to irreparable brain damage, or severe even deaths like pneumonia or gastro-enteritis and so…If the Vitamin C status of an infant is borderline, the administration of a vaccine, particularly but not only, the Pertussis Vaccine can result to endotoxaemia. Sudden death, sudden unconsciousness, sudden shock or sudden spontaneous bruising and hemorrhaging including brain and retinal can occur. Hemorrhaging and bruising in such circumstances may be wrongly attributed to “shaken baby syndrome”.”

    Archie Kalokerinos MD, Honorary Medical Advisor for Aboriginal Health

  • Bill Pembry

    It was a baboon study and nowhere do they say the vaccine GAVE baboons whooping cough. They were exposed to whooping cough on purpose after vaccination. You don’t understand what you copy/paste.
    Admittedly better Pertussis vaccines are needed as they’re only about 80% effective, but they’ve still reduced the U.S. incidence of whooping cough by about 75% even in the worst years.
    Let’s see you copy/paste something proving “homeopathic nosodes” do anything at all (you won’t).

  • Thank you!

  • Bill Pembry

    I should get payed for this.

  • Bill Pembry

    It was an AIRBORNE disease, not fecal-oral. Sanitation had nothing to do with it.
    The BS 10% claim is only stated by anti-vaxxers. It was probably less than 50% but that was due to the success of ring vaccination. You should read about it someday.
    John Tilden was misguided and died a decade before global smallpox eradication even started.

  • Bill Pembry

    2 anecdotes and what, a 31 year old editorial or something?

  • Planet Autism

    Absolutely it should be. It just shows how deliberate this has all been. Why protect the pharmaceutical companies if there was so little risk? So it means big pharma and the Government are complicit. The whole thing is exceedingly disturbing. I am in the UK, the UK Government has apparently offloaded batches of vaccines (which I think were MMR) onto other countries when concerns about vaccine injuries of those batches were raised. The corruption is enormous.

  • LouboutinGirl

    This has got to end. I am in the USA and I come across articles often about other countries and their handling of vaccines and it’s policy. The UK and Australia pop up often. It’s appalling how they keep trying to mandate and shove these on people at every angle they can get away with. Are you familiar with Bill and Melinda Gates and their ever so controversial polio vaccination program in India?? It’s killing children, paralyzing and causing outbreaks! I read they were being sued by government officials in India, but I haven’t followed up lately to see the outcome. If I have learned anything in my 38 years on earth, it’s that if the government says you need something, YOU DON’T NEED IT!
    Harvard University is currently dealing with a mumps outbreak. All those infected were in fact vaccinated.
    It’s safe to say, MMR is a failure on so many levels. It’s high time to start holding the CDC and BigPharma accountable. This is a crime against humanity.

  • That is exactly what the study shows. You can be vaccinated and when exposed to pertussis and immune system challenged, you can remain essentially asymptomatic, and still shed the pertussis pathogen. That does not mean that you are a continual carrier, but potentially when and only when immunologically challenged by the circulating pathogen.

    Acellular pertussis vaccines protect against disease but fail to prevent infection and transmission in a nonhuman primate model


    Pertussis is a highly contagious respiratory illness caused by the bacterial pathogen Bordetella pertussis. Pertussis rates in the United States have been rising and reached a 50-y high of 42,000 cases in 2012. Although pertussis resurgence is not completely understood, we hypothesize that current acellular pertussis (aP) vaccines fail to prevent colonization and transmission. To test our hypothesis, infant baboons were vaccinated at 2, 4, and 6 mo of age with aP or whole-cell pertussis (wP) vaccines and challenged with B. pertussis at 7 mo. Infection was followed by quantifying colonization in nasopharyngeal washes and monitoring leukocytosis and symptoms. Baboons vaccinated with aP were protected from severe pertussis-associated symptoms but not from colonization, did not clear the infection faster than naïve animals, and readily transmitted B. pertussis to unvaccinated contacts. Vaccination with wP induced a more rapid clearance compared with naïve and aP-vaccinated animals. By comparison, previously infected animals were not colonized upon secondary infection. Although all vaccinated and previously infected animals had robust serum antibody responses, we found key differences in T-cell immunity. Previously infected animals and wP-vaccinated animals possess strong B. pertussis-specific T helper 17 (Th17) memory and Th1 memory, whereas aP vaccination induced a Th1/Th2 response instead. The observation that aP, which induces an immune response mismatched to that induced by natural infection, fails to prevent colonization or transmission provides a plausible explanation for the resurgence of pertussis and suggests that optimal control of pertussis will require the development of improved vaccines.

    Read more:

    Nonhuman Primate Model of Pertussis

    Our results demonstrate that the baboon provides an excellent model of clinical pertussis that will allow researchers to investigate pertussis pathogenesis and disease progression, evaluate currently licensed vaccines, and develop improved vaccines and therapeutics.


    Pertussis Vaccine Study Shatters Illusion of Vaccine-Induced Immunity

    The Current Failure of Pertussis and Measles Vaccine

  • Bill Pembry

    “when exposed to pertussis” – but not from the vaccine.

  • Planet Autism

    Yes I’m familiar with the Gates scandal, hundreds of thousands of people paralysed and killed, it’s appalling. Also look what’s been happening with the HPV vaccines. Children suffering auto-immune disease, chronic fatigue, convulsions etc. and some have died following vaccination. Australia is supposed to be bringing in (if they haven’t already) loss of benefits to families with unvaccinated children. It’s disgusting. And look what’s happened in California about mandatory vaccination. I have (funnily enough) seen a few strategically released stories since VAXXED has started airing, I had only read the headline about the mumps outbreak, not read the actual articles and assumed it was an attempt to make people panic and start vaccinating. But now you’ve said it was the vaccinated – how the heck are they going to start explaining that!

  • nworder

    “Sweden stopped whooping cough vaccine in 1979, Germany stopped routine use of the vaccine in 1982: the declines of the diseases continued.
    This vaccine is, arguably, the most dangerous of the current routine jabs, being a whole cell vaccine and largely unpurified or refined. It has probably done more damage, per shot, than any other, with the obvious exception of the smallpox vaccine.”

    Pat Rattigan, ND, ‘Assault on the Species’

  • nworder

    Easy – they dont even try to explain it.

  • nworder


  • nworder

    John Tilden was a doctor working with smallpox whereas you’re just a silly troll
    reading from big pharma propaganda

  • nworder

    Paid you get – though probably a pittance compared to your masters who get millions $ as you lick their boots

  • Bill Pembry

    A naturopath, huh? Imagine that.

  • Bill Pembry


  • nworder

    “The brain and spinal chord can also be attacked with auto-antibodies (which this author refers to as vaccine induced encephalitis) Leading to a variety of neurological diseases. The most severe of these leading to death are SIDS and most cases of ‘Shaken Baby Syndrome’.”

    ‘Inoculations: The Real Weapon of Mass Destruction’ by Rebecca Carley MD, Court Qualified VIDS Expert

    “DPT has always been among the more dangerous vaccines. The trouble is the pertussis component…containing endotoxin poisons. ‘Endotoxin can interfere with clotting and cause bleeding in the brain…’ Mark Geier MD. In fact, pertussis is so poisonous that scientist use it to study brain swelling and hemorrhage in lab animals.”

    ‘Was it Murder or a Bad Vaccine?’ Jan Goodwin, 9/2000

  • Bill Pembry

    What evidence do you have smallpox was spread by “sewage fumes” or that Tilden worked with smallpox? (None)

  • nworder

    “Research published in 2006 found that people born before the introduction of immunization were more likely to have high levels of antibodies to measles, mumps and rubella than those born in the vaccine era.

    After twenty, thirty or forty years a lot of vaccinated people are likely to become susceptible to the illness against again as their own protection from vaccines wears off. Only this time the disease could be different from what we knew before vaccination…
    there are two things to worry about; the first is that the illness will affect older people in whom side-effects are likely to be serious, the second is less certain but more concerning; the wild measles virus has been changing or mutating so that it becomes less like the measles vaccine virus…
    The worst case scenario is that we will have changed measles, as a direct result of vaccination from a relatively harmless illness to which we’ve adapted successfully to a more dangerous illness, with unknown consequences for future generations.”

    Richard Halvorsen MD, author of ‘The Truth About Vaccines, How We Are Used As Guinea Pigs Without Knowing It’

  • Bill Pembry

    BigPharma should pay you so you keep posting.

  • Bill Pembry

    Do you have any credible sources? (No)

  • nworder


    “The MMR vaccine contains live measles viruses and recent studies have shown that immune suppression after vaccination with this virus suppresses immunity in a profound way that last as long as six months. In fact, the CDC recommends separating tis vaccine from other live virus vaccines… Yet they combine it with tow other live viruses – rubella and mumps… Yet, they never address the obvious question – wouldn’t this vaccine also make the child more vulnerable to other naturally occurring infections such as Haemophilus B, influenza meningitis, meningococcal meningitis, persistent measles infection, influenza…?

    This has been strongly suggested by a number of studies. Not only would they be more susceptible, but severe complications and even death would be more common as well. When death and severe complications and even occur due to these infections, physicians, the CDC, the American Academy Pediatrics use this as a justification for more vaccines, never admitting that the increase incidence of these infections and complications was caused by the previous vaccine recommendations.”

    ‘Vaccination, Neurodevelopmental and Autism Spectrum Disorders’, Russell Blaylock MD, Neurosurgeon 3/12/08

  • Bill Pembry

    Halvorsen is a discredited idiot.

  • Bill Pembry

    Blaylock is another discredited idiot.

  • nworder

    Sanitation Vs. Vaccination – The Origin of Smallpox

    By Walter S. Hadwen M.D.
    Since Edward Jenner demonstrated the use of cowpox vaccine against smallpox in 1796, vaccinations against smallpox were started. Despite this, a smallpox epidemic swept England in 1839 and killed 22,081 people.

    In 1853 the Government made smallpox vaccinations compulsory, but the incidence of the disease kept increasing, and in 1872 another epidemic killed 44,840 people, most of whom were vaccinated.

    The compulsory vaccination law was abolished in 1948. Similar disasters occurred in Germany and Japan, but possibly the worst was in the Philippines in 1918 when the US Government forced over three million natives to be vaccinated. Of these, 47,369 came down with smallpox and 16,477 died. In 1919 the program was doubled, and over seven million were vaccinated, of whom 65,180 came down with the disease and 44,408 died. The epidemic was a direct result of the vaccination program. These facts are described by Dr William F. Koch in his book The Survival Factor in Neoplastic and Viral Disease (1961).

    By following the superstitious impulses of Edward Jenner and the ancient tradition of time Gloucestershire dairymaids, the medical profession has lost sight of the vital question, what is the origin of smallpox?

  • nworder


    I remember 26 years ago there was an outbreak of smallpox at Redruth, in Cornwall. The Press in all parts of the United Kingdom was immediately supplied with exaggerated reports, and scares were created by public vaccinators hundreds of miles away. I went down to investigate the affair on my own account. There were altogether 44 cases; 84 per cent occurred in vaccinated persons.

    One-fourth of the cases was located in “Trestrails Row,” consisting of seven houses, each containing only two small low-roofed rooms, and with no water connections. One midden privy, in the most disgusting condition, accommodated the seven houses. One of these hovels was occupied by no fewer than seven persons, all of whom contracted smallpox, and out of the total of seven deaths three occurred in this house.

  • nworder


    “……….The smallpox was practically confined to the southern half of the city, where there was no fall for the sewage. The pipes had been hurriedly laid in this new district without concrete base or cemented joints.
    There was a drought that lasted months; time water supply ran short; flushing of the sewers had to be discontinued, and time sewerage pipes became choked. When, after time epidemic was over, investigation was made, the pipes were found to be broken in all directions; in fact, the whole district of–for the most part–crowded houses, many of them back-to-back with no through ventilation, lay over what was nothing more nor less than a huge cesspit.
    The outlets for the sewer-gas consisted of street manholes, which belched their poison into time atmosphere.

    I traced the first case of smallpox in every street to the house nearest to a manhole. Wooden stoppers were made to close them down, but they had to be used sparingly lest the sewer-gas should be driven into the houses.

    Hundreds of the houses were drawing their water supply from shallow wells, liable to contamination by constant leakage into them from house drains; and the sewage-pipes in numerous instances ran under the floors of the houses from the closets at the back to the street in front……………..”

  • nworder


    ………..The panic became fearful, and a wild, despairing cry went up from the plague-stricken city as the destroying angel sped from house to house in these awful slums.

    And what was the answer the terror-stricken inhabitants received from the Guardians of Public Health? Still the same mad reply:
    “These be thy gods, O Israel!” as they pointed to the vaccine lancets, dripping with their filthy venom; in helplessness and fear they implored the people, in a unanimously signed medical manifesto, to bow down and worship at the shrine.

    At last the rain came. It washed the atmosphere, it flushed the sewers and drains; it filled the vacuoles of sewer gas in the sandy soil, and the epidemic died down.

    The councilors who put up at the next municipal contest were one and all indignantly swept away at the polls by the enraged voters, and anti-vaccinationists took their place; a new sewerage system was laid throughout the whole smallpox district at a cost of some £30,000; 20,000 sanitary defects in the houses were rectified, and no smallpox has occurred since, although nearly 90 per cent, of the population is unvaccinated.

    But even in that awful epidemic, smallpox picked out the vaccinated for attack; two-thirds of the sufferers had been “protected” by time filthy superstitious rite.

  • nworder

    You could not lick his bootlaces. SMALLPOX CAUSED BY LACK OF SANITATION – DOUBT IT NOT !

    Sheffield And Other Cases

    “I remember Sheffield and its epidemic in 1887-8. No less than 98 per cent of the population had been vaccinated; it was the best vaccinated town in the kingdom the public vaccinators had reaped a richer harvest of bonuses for “successful vaccination” than those of any other town, and yet they had 7,000 cases of smallpox.

    It originated and clung to an unsanitary area of 175 acres covered with cesspits–which was called The Croft. The medical profession helplessly cried “vaccinate” and “re-vaccinate”–as if the pubic had not already had enough of it. At last the floodgates of heaven were mercifully opened, and the bountiful rains suddenly accomplished what 56,000 vaccinations had failed to effect. “

  • Bill Pembry

    So no on both accounts.

  • Bill Pembry

    Please stop.

  • Bill Pembry

    You got this crap off whale.to, didn’t you?

  • Bill Pembry

    Ole Haden should have been a city engineer maybe

  • nworder


    “I call to mind the case of one adult male I interviewed in one of the smallpox hospital wards at that time. He was vaccinated in infancy, had smallpox when eight years old, and was subsequently re-vaccinated three times.

    That man died of smallpox. I took a particular interest in that case, and was staggered to find when the official report was published that, owing to his having had the eruption so badly as to cover his vaccination marks, he was actually declared to be “unvaccinated”!

  • Bill Pembry

    Hadwen was a germ theory denialist.

  • guest

    Where are the studies that state that the pertussis vaccine is effective in preventing pertussis? Please provide titles and researchers so we can read them for ourselves. If you can manage, just the titles and the researchers.

    I have no insights on homeopathy.

    The pertussis vaccines do not contain pertussis bacteria.
    The Tdap and DTaP vaccines that were phased in during the 1990s don’t
    confer immunity to pertussis bacteria. The vaccines contain pertussis toxoid. Toxoid is the inactivated version of the nasty exotoxin that the bacteria secrete during an infection that causes major damage to the human body. These “acellular” (meaning not whole cell) vaccines also contain pertactin, fimbria, and filamentous hemagglutinin– all of the gook that pertussis produces –in a failed attempt to stop pertussis from sticking to itself and posting up in your throat. Pertussis and pertussis toxin are not the same thing—think of it like the difference between grapes and wine. Do you get arrested for driving after eating grapes? No, you don’t. Because although one is made from the other, they’re not the same thing.

    The pertussis toxin is called an AB toxin because the B-unit (B is for binding) binds to your healthy cells while the A-unit enters through the membranes and wreaks havoc. It’s the B-unit that the body can learn to recognize and get some immunity to. The DTaP/Tdap vaccines are for teaching your body to fight when it encounters the B-units.

    But the key fact misrepresented by the media, lawmakers and medical establishment is this: the vaccines can’t fight pertussis until your body is infected and by then it’s too late to stop you from being contagious. There
    is no toxin to fight off–and no B-unit to recognize– until the infection takes hold anywhere from 4 to 21 days after exposure. DTaP and Tdap may be symptom-reducing vaccines, but they aren’t designed to prevent an infection from happening. They are not transmission-reducing vaccines. In fact, the pertussis toxin antibodies are of no use until an infection happens.

    Are you going to encounter some B-unit pertussis toxin sludge out in your everyday life? Only if you work in a laboratory. And there’s no longer a vaccine in the states for regular whole cell pertussis bacteria that hasn’t produced any exotoxin.

    The old DTP vaccine from the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s (and was phased out 1996-1999) was probably somewhat responsible for the lower rate of diagnosed cases, but even in the late 90s researchers knew that kids
    vaccinated with DTP were developing pertussis infections without showing it. Between being vaccinated with the DTaP, DTP or enduring a natural infection, only those who have had a natural infection have true immunity from spreading contagious infections for up to 20 years.

    The old whole cell DTP wasn’t preventing these 10 pertussis deaths per year either. In the three years spanning 1992 to 1994 when DTP was in use there were 32 total deaths (you do the math), 25 of them in infants under 6 months old. In 2014 there were 9 deaths under 11 months old. Granted, there have been medical advancements in the last 20 years that are saving infant lives if they’re infected with pertussis.

    So by virtue of design, the DTaP and Tdap vaccines only work after you’re already well infected with pertussis, and the hope is that they keep you from getting as sick as you would without them. Sometimes it works, and sometimes– as you’ve read in the media—it completely fails. Maybe you get full-blown sick, maybe you feel like you have a bad cold, or maybe you don’t feel like you’re sick at all, but you’ve still got the infection. And you’ll still pass it along to a newborn baby.

    But the DTaP and Tdap don’t impact the chances of you acquiring pertussis in the first place. They’re just your own personal seat belt in the event of an accident. There is nothing altruistic about vaccinating yourself with acellular pertussis. You’re not contributing to any “community immunity” by getting vaccinated. There is no such thing as “cocooning” a newborn baby with vaccinated family members. (Cocooning was a failed experiment without any reseaerch behind it. Australlia, following the CDC leads abdomended the “cocooning” protocol because it did not stop the spread of pertussis-
    “States ending free parent whooping vaccine” http://www.news(dot)com.au/breaking-news/states-ending-free-parent-whooping-vaccine/story-e6frfku0-1226350174856

    The FDA and the CDC know this which is why you’ve NEVER* seen them blame the unvaccinated for the spikes in pertussis we’ve been seeing since 2004. It would be slanderous of them to make such an accusation because the United States effectively quit vaccinating for actual pertussis bacteria in the 90s. The DTaP and Tdap aren’t “weaker” bacterial vaccines. They’re not bacterial vaccines at all. (http://www.cdc(dot)gov/media/releases/2012/t0719_pertussis_epidemic.html)

    They are… say it with me now… bacterial toxoid vaccines.

    You got it? Vaccinating yourself for the B-unit of the pertussis toxin is not going to stop you from picking up the pertussis bacteria. It’s not going to stop the pertussis from developing into an infection. It is not going to stop you from spreading pertussis. And it’s not going to protect an infant in your home or community from contracting pertussis– that would be like buckling your own seat belt to protect your neighbor’s new baby in a car accident.
















    FDA study helps provide an understanding of rising rates of whooping cough and response to vaccination:http://www.fda(dot)gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm376937.htm

    You Can’t Protect Another Person from Pertussis

  • Dawn

    Who is this Bill Pembry commenting on this site? I cannot find anything on him except pro-vaccine comments all over the internet. Doctor? Vaccine manufacturer? He is hiding something. Now, I did find “Pembrey” with some very interesting results.

  • Bill Pembry

    Wow what a long post!

  • Bill Pembry


  • nworder

    You are a devious twisted liar
    Sanitation cured smallpox as the germ was in the sewage and its fumes.

  • nworder

    He is a professional troll for big pharma – but he could be Jen Mcpherson or Maria Mclachlan
    a multiple identity .

  • nworder

    Nice post – maybe Bill ? will learn something.

  • nworder

    Up yours Pembry – what a short post – you vacuous fool

  • nworder

    SO JENNER was killing thousands (and his own son) by injecting the smallpox virus without knowing what he was doing .

  • Ruth

    How do you know it’s been eradicated? They might want to sell you some more vaccines! Then you can be sure of a resurgence even if it’s only in a ‘mild’ form. Or maybe they’ll just change the goal posts and it will have mutated into a completely different disease. Besides, nothing stays the same. Not Man’s immunity to diseases or the diseases themselves. Both evolve. Occasionally Man’s interference will make things worse. Probably smallpox is a really great example of that. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

    This black and white thinking and magic bullet ideology that some people love to cling to really gets tedious after a while. It didn’t work with antibiotics and it is already failing with vaccines as some people start to question them. Sadly, there’s probably money in trolling. I blame the economy, personally.

  • nworder

    Anyone that takes on a trolling job like Bill is in a sad way since you would have to be unemployable to sell your soul supporting the vaccinating abuse of infants .
    Bill would be better to get a job in a sewage works and sniff the airborne fumes.

  • Bill Pembry

    “How do you know it’s been eradicated?”

    Because the last case was in 1977? And the only reservoir is in humans? And who do you mean by “they”? Tell us about that conspiracy.

  • Bill Pembry

    Hadwen was a germ theory denialist, and Jenner’s son died of TB, not smallpox.

  • Bill Pembry

    Posting data dumps of crap is typical of anti-vaxxers who are in way over their heads.

  • Bill Pembry

    You can’t understand smallpox if you don’t understand germ theory.

  • nworder

    DR HADWEN :-
    The Lesson Of The Public Health Act

    Before the passing of the Public Health Act of l875 in this country, every succeeding epidemic of smallpox was worse than its predecessor in spite of more and more compulsory vaccination; but with less and less vaccination and more and more sanitation smallpox has become a comparative curiosity. It is only in unsanitary quarters it can gain a hold.

    Sir Edwin-Chadwick, the veteran sanitarian, has well said: Smallpox, typhus, and other fevers occur in common conditions of foul air, stagnant putrefaction, bad house drainage, sewers of deposit, excrement sodden sites, filthy street surfaces, impure water, and overcrowding, and the entire removal of such conditions is the effectual preventive of diseases of those species, whether in ordinary or extraordinary visitations.

  • nworder


    YOU can make observations about smallpox occurring in sewage and slums with bad drainage without knowing about germ theory

  • nworder


    Then, two years later, Jenner again challenged his son with smallpox again, this time, with unhappy results. This time there was a reaction, and a severe one. But he quickly recovered, and a year later Jenner inoculated him with smallpox once again.

    JennerUnfortunately, however, in the years following these experiments, young Edward “became a sickly child and exhibited signs of mild mental retardation,” likely due to neurological damage.

    Jenner’s son died at age 21 from tuberculosis, which has been linked to the smallpox vaccine. Despite his death, Jenner continued testing his vaccine on many others producing varying results such as vaccine-induced smallpox and vaccine-induced tuberculosis.

  • nworder

    IMCV :-

    “Side effects and ineffectiveness of smallpox vaccination have been the main smallpox issue discussed in medical papers for a long time. In 1928, the British Medical Journal (14 January:74) published an article by Garrow showing that the fatality rate among the vaccinated cases of smallpox in England and Wales in 1923 and 1926, in those over 15 years of age, was HIGHER than among the unvaccinated.

    This stirred a lively discussion, published on 21 January 1928 (BMJ; 115-116). Among the comments are those of Percy Stocks, who considered waning vaccine immunity the reason for increased mortality among those of 15 years of age. He tried to imply that although dying within 2 months of contracting smallpox, victims could have died of other causes. – See more at: http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/04/02/smallpox-declared-eradicated-while-still-alive-and-well-by-viera-scheibner-phd/#sthash.x1iKwJ5T.dpuf

  • Bill Pembry

    Hadwen was a germ theory denialist.

  • Bill Pembry

    Show us where anyone ever found smallpox in “sewage fumes”. Ever.

  • Bill Pembry

    “Jenner’s son died at age 21 from tuberculosis, which has been linked to the smallpox vaccine.”

    Bull$hit. What wacko anti-vax site did you pull that from?

  • Bill Pembry

    None of that has anything to do with my questions.

  • nworder

    DR HADWEN :-
    When will the medical profession arouse itself to ask the question: “What is the origin of smallpox?”

    When will a Ministry of Health cease to bring discredit upon itself by the advocacy of a disgusting fetish that has proved, itself a failure as a preventive of the disease in every part of the world in which it has been adopted for the last century and a quarter? When will a British Government that boasts of its progress and civilisation cease to ally itself with a filthy, uncivilised, unscientific practice that has done nothing but spread disease and death amongst the populace for generation and which is opposed to the common-sense views of the majority of thinking men and women in the realm?

    From “Truth,” January 17, 1923

  • Bill Pembry

    That just further shows what an idiot he was.

  • nworder


    “Creighton tells us that James Phipps, even if her were “perfectly well on the ninth day” as Jenner wrote, had ulcers on his arms which took weeks to heal. Some writers claim that James Phipps died from tuberculosis at the age of twenty-one but one source states that he recovered and lived until 1853.15

    Jenner’s son, who was also vaccinated more than once, died at twenty-one from tuberculosis. Tuberculosis is a condition that some researchers have linked to the smallpox vaccine.16

    In fact, Dr. A. Wilder, Professor of Pathology and former editor of The New York Medical Times, went so far as to say, “Consumption (TB) follows in the wake of vaccination as surely as effect follows cause.” 17

    – See more at: http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2010/02/26/smallpox-vaccine-origins-of-vaccine-madness/#sthash.8SJknjFP.dpuf

  • nworder


    Polio virus is found in sewage as are hundreds of viruses – whats new ?
    The smallpox virus was in sewage and sewage fumes that’s why smallpox was eliminated with sanitation .

  • Bill Pembry

    At least try to find something other than anecdotes.

  • Bill Pembry

    Lol did you just write that?

  • nworder


    But Hadwen without this knowledge managed to stop smallpox by sanitation
    – amazing man working on his observations before germs were even known about .

  • nworder


    The success of the City of Leicester, England was remarkable in reducing smallpox mortality substantially compared to the rest of England and other countries by abandoning vaccination between 1882 and 1908 [see more below].

    This contrasts how the drug industry has turned each child in the world into a human pin-cushion profit centre.

    You might think the following graph is some support for the success of diphtheria vaccination [see blue line]:-

    [Click Graph to Enlarge – Opens In New Window]

  • nworder

    BILL – You must be making plenty of cash tonight – I keep you going for your nice little earner

    Jenner continued to promote the idea that cowpox prevented smallpox. “Morbid matter of various kinds, when absorbed into the system, may produce effects in some degree similar; but what renders the cowpox virus so extremely singular is that the person who has been thus affected is forever secure from the infection of the smallpox; neither exposure to the various effluvia, nor the insertion of the matter into the skin, producing the distemper.”19

  • Bill Pembry

    Hadwen didn’t stop smallpox

  • Bill Pembry

    You’re just copy/pasting nonsense from anti-science sites

  • Bill Pembry

    That doesn’t even make sense.

  • nworder




    “We will now come nearer home and take the Metropolitan Asylums Board and their statistics. From 1870 to 1886 there were 53,579 cases of small-pox, and out of that number there were 43,919 who had undergone the process spoken of by Sir John Simon as “removing every taint of susceptibility to infection.” IE VACCINATION

    But you may say, perhaps, ” Will it protect for a time?” ‘Well, I should like to know for how long? (Hear, hear,) Dr. Bond says up to fourteen years, some people say ten; in Birmingham they were rejoicing the other day that they had had nobody take small-pox, no vaccinated child, under three; so that it has got down rather low. (Laughter.)

    Jenner said that to talk about re-vaccination was to rob his “discovery” of half of its virtues; he was dead against it by the statement he made that one vaccination was protection for a life-time.
    On that he got £30,000. (Laughter.) Dr. Bond tells us that that was altered afterwards, and that it was not the expression of Jenner’s matured vision. No, Jenner altered it afterwards; he got his £30,000 first, though. (Renewed laughter.) He never yielded up the £30,000 when he found he had made a mistake.”

  • nworder

    ANTI VAX SITES not anti science sites.

    DR HADWEN :-
    Then look at our re-vaccinated Army. From 1860 to 1888 we had no less than 3,953 cases of small-pox in the British Army, and 391 of them died.

    If re-vaccination won’t protect the soldier, how is it going to protect the nurse? (Hear, hear.) In Egypt in 1889 they died at the rate of 1.750 per million from small-pox. But, as a matter of fact, the Government do not believe in re-vaccination.
    The other day, when the epidemic broke out in London, a regiment of soldiers was stationed at St. John’s Wood, near, and so terrified were the Government with regard to the matter that an urgent order came down from the Horse Guards sending the regiment right away to the other end of England, lest the re-vaccinated soldiers should catch small-pox. (Laughter.)

  • guest

    Bill Pembry is also trolling on Age of Autism. My suggestion—stop responding to his comments. I know it’s hard because he displays such ignorance but as the saying goes you can’t fix stupid. Trolls not only get paid by commenting they also get paid by how many responses they receive. This is why many of his comments are unintelligent and only 4-5 words. Stop responding to him–he doesn’t get a payday. I know it’s hard but it will get easier. If everyone stops responding to him and he continues to post than you know you’re dealing with a entirely different animal–possibly a sociopath. These type of people definitely need to be shut down.

  • guest

    I did find “Pembrey” with some very interesting results.

    Please post what you found. I’m interested in what you’ve discovered.

  • Bill Pembry


  • Bill Pembry

    Anti-vax is a subset of anti-science

  • Bill Pembry

    C’mon guys I have 2 kids in college and another about to start and Lowell Hubbs has been practically AWOL lately. I need you.

  • And exactly what do I have to do with the situation in regard to your reply posting? You reply post regardless of if I am here or not. Unlike you, my life does not revolve around this site and nor any other. So what you are essentially saying is that you need me to reply post all day seven days a week, and every day against you, and so you can make more money on your mindless vaccine shilling denial of every known and serious vaccine issue that exists. That is a form of being a subhuman low life that find to be inhuman and unimaginable.

    We have yet to determine what makes you do what you do here on this site, but I suspect there is more going on than this just being about getting a pro-vaccine trolling and shilling paycheck. Simply stop, walk away, and get a real and at least a half way respectable job.

  • How about showing me a study that has a finding within it that those that have acquired natural immunity to pertussis, still shed when exposed to and immunologic ally challenged by the said pathogen? Why have they not done that said comparison study? That should be significantly important in the vaccination decision; not only in regard to pertussis but in regard to all so called VPD’s. Like I said before, the needed and necessary studies have never been done, and nor in regard to actual multiple vaccine safety.

    There is another issue as well in that the pertussis vaccine has caused a shift in the prevalence of pathogen types. B parapertussis is of course not in the current vaccine.

    Acellular pertussis vaccination enhances B. parapertussis colonization

    An acellular whooping cough vaccine actually enhances the colonization of Bordetella parapertussis in mice; pointing towards a rise in B. parapertussis incidence resulting from acellular vaccination, which may have contributed to the observed increase in whooping cough over the last decade.


    Researchers find first US evidence of vaccine-resistant pertussis

    Mass vaccination advocates rely on ‘herd immunity’ to make their case. But it doesn’t exist. Junk Science Week: Vaccinating the ‘herd’.

    Recent Outbreaks of Pertussis (Whooping Cough)

    The vaccine primes the body to fight pertussis toxin and sometimes a couple of other cell antigens, in the blood, not the lung. It does this by stimulating an unnatural balance in immune cell populations. This incorrect immunity “learned” from the vaccine (referred to by Dr. James Cherry as “original antigenic sin”), is then the same way the body then responds to a subsequent infection. If the first stimulation was to vaccine antigens, then upon the exposure to the disease, the vaccinated person will mount an inferior response, compared to a child who has convalesced from a natural infection.

    Read more:

    Whooping cough and chameleons. Hilary Butler

    (This concept of original antigenic sin, is potentially applicable to any vaccine, and in regard to a resultant lack of adequate immune response to variants developing in the pathogen; be that by natural selection, or as direct result of use of the specific vaccine).

    Read more:

    Why is the CDC and FDA Still Recommending the Failed Whooping Cough Vaccine?

    Measles Virus Infection Without Rash In Childhood Is Related To Disease In Adult Life.

    The Lancet, January 5 1985


    The presence of measles specific antibodies is usually taken as evidence of typical measles in the past; in the present study it was regarded as evidence of infection with measles virus, but not necessarily of the common disease accompanied by a typical rash. The association between a negative history ofmeasles in childhood and certain diseases later in life was investigated by a historical prospective method, based on school health records combined with self-reporting in adulthood, and tests for specific IgG measles antibody. There was evidence of association between a negative history of measles, exposure in early life (possibly injection of immune serum globulin after exposure), and development of immunoreactive diseases, sebaceous skin diseases, degenerative diseases of bone and cartilage, and certain tumours. It is suggested that the presence of measles virus specific antibodies at the time of acute infection interferes with development of specific cytolytic reactions, and enables intracellular measles virus to survive the acute infection. If this hypothesis is verified, use of immune serum globulin after measles exposure has to be reconsidered.


    Media Sweetheart Paul Offit’s Vaccine Lies Deconstructed: A Mind-Blowing Interview with Dr. Suzanne Humphries, (and with the truth regarding the Disneyland meales situation, which amounted to again nothing but false vaccine propaganda)

  • Who or what is your credible source; Paul Offit and the to much to lose, CDC?


    Excerpts: (this is good stuff)

    “I think we need to begin that process by making sure that the vaccines are safe,

    they are efficacious and have a regulatory agency which recommends vaccines to the schedule, monitors them, has integrity and creditably. And unfortunately that is not the case at the moment.”

    With the CDC’s integrity already on the ropes from years of misconduct, Kennedy pushed forward for the first round knockout in Vermont:

    “The CDC is a troubled agency. There have been four separate scathing Federal studies about the CDC. I’m not talking about the whole agency; I’m talking about the vaccine division. One by the United States Senate; a three year study, one by the House, another by HHS by the Inspector General and a study this year by The Office of Research and Integrity. And all of together and separately paint a picture of an agency that has become a cesspool of corruption.”

    As the CDC’s integrity was falling, now unconscious in the Vermont State House, Kennedy delivered one last blow for good measure:

    “(Regarding the vaccine decision making process at the CDC) “You would hope that the committees that make that decision would be independent scientists or researchers or public health advocates who are solely focused on public health but that is not the case. Most of the people who sit on those committees are vaccine industry insiders. Many of them, if not most of them, have direct financial stakes in the outcome of their decisions to add that vaccine to the schedule.”

    The battle lines for medical freedom in the United States have been clearly drawn. As with any war, truth became the first casualty years ago. What is at stake now is the public’s faith in the medical community at large. A scorn population that has endured uninformed damage to their children and themselves has mounted major opposition to the current transparent push by vaccine manufacturers wielding senate and lobbyist mouthpieces. Bills continue to make their way through U.S. committees based on a 147 measles cases that ended long ago. At every stage, the scripting has fallen apart leaving a drug company operated political marionette with no clothes, naked and ugly for all to see.

    “All of the barriers that are suppose to protect American Kids from that industry (pharmaceutical) have been leveled.”

    Read more:

    Dr. Paul Offit’s Aluminum Deceptions and Academic Misconduct (one very important article, to read)

    The Defense of Aluminum Adjuvant, Debunked

    A More Rigorous Defense of Al Adjuvant, and Why it is Wrong

    VRM: The Problem With Vaccines Part 2 – Synergistic Effect of Heavy Metal Toxicity On The Body

    Former FDA Commissioner Herbert Ley:

    After his resignation, in an interview to the New York Times, Dr. Ley warned the public about the FDA’s inability to safeguard consumers. People were being misled, he believed “The thing that bugs me is that the people think the FDA is protecting them – it isn’t. What the FDA is doing and what the public thinks it’s doing are as different as night and day,” he said.[5][13]


  • Blaylock is not at all discredited. What is your official source for the claim??? Name some issues that he has ever been discredited on, and by whom? I know that you shills always consult the known false discreditation and the great wizard milenko David Gorski, at no science there based, a well-known big pharma defending quack and online character assassin, masquerading as a science defender?

    Internet Trolls Attack Anyone Resisting Vaccine Party Line

    Vaccine Shills and Their Bullying Tactics

    “Science”Blogs: Seed Media’s Aggressive Weed
    Part I: Fertilizer From Pharma

    Least We Forget the Blatant Cruelty of the Vaccine Industry and Their Propagandized Trolls and Shills

    Sounds like you could use some of his supplements and to get some soon. Did you know that big pharma makes a similar drug product as intended, but it doesn’t work. Imagine that.


    Dr. Russell Blaylock Teams With Medix Select to Create Powerful New Brain and Memory Supplement




    Here are some informational videos you should as well watch.

  • Actually what you refuse to admit is that you do not understand the germ theory, correctly. Who did you say you formerly posted here as, Thomas Johnson?

    Soil/Terrain Theory -vs- The Germ-Theory of Illness and Disease

    The False Foundations of Modern Medicine

    The Drug Story-A Factological History Of America’s $10,000,000,000 Drug Cartel, Its Methods, Operations, Hidden Ownership, Profits And Terrific Impact On The Health Of The American People.

    Death By Medicine

  • What Most People Don’t Know About The Father of Vaccination and Why History is Repeating Itself

    In 1789, Jenner decided (just after he had been elected as a Fellow of the Royal Society) to try immunizing (or what he thought was immunizing) his ten month old son, Edward, Jr, and two of his neighbor’s servants, by inoculating them with swinepox.

    He had learned well from his famous teacher, Dr John Hunter, that one will learn more by “trying the experiment” rather than by just speculating about it. So Jenner performed the experiment by making a small scratch on the servants’ and the baby’s arms with a lancet and then infecting the scratch “with matter from a pustule of the baby’s nurse, who had caught the swinepox infection.” Eight days later baby Edward took sick and developed sores, but he did eventually recover.

    Then, two years later, Jenner again challenged his son with smallpox again, this time, with unhappy results. This time there was a reaction, and a severe one. But he quickly recovered, and a year later Jenner inoculated him with smallpox once again.

    Unfortunately, however, in the years following these experiments, young Edward “became a sickly child and exhibited signs of mild mental retardation,” likely due to neurological damage.

    Jenner also inoculated a young boy named James Phipps. both Phipps and Jenner’s son died at ages 20 and 21 respectively from tuberculosis, which has been linked to the smallpox vaccine. Despite these deaths, Jenner continued testing this vaccine on many others producing varying results such as vaccine-induced smallpox and vaccine-induced tuberculosis.

    Jenner, in 1798, formulated a new vaccine, which combined “horse-grease” and cow-pox matter as he had proclaimed his first formulation in 1796 as having “no protective virtue.” His new vaccine was met with public disdain and disgust and his experiments failed. He was ridiculed. Jenner then returned to promote his original formulation.

    Read more:

  • The Trouble with the ANTI “Anti-Vaccine” Movement: How They Hijack the Issue; Distort the Facts; and Totally Miss the Point

    1. They believe there is an anti-vaccine movement.

    2. Anyone who disagrees with them is an idiot.

    3. They blame Dr. Wakefield for everything.

    4. They just don’t get it.

    5. They repeatedly distort or exaggerate the facts.

    6. They pretend to be the gatekeepers of science.

    7. They fail to acknowledge the context of the controversy.

    8. They over-simplify the problem.

    9. They have no hypothesis.

    10. They have an excuse for everything.

    11. They fail to recognize their tactics aren’t working.


  • No one said the vaccine gave the baboons pertussis.

    Like I stated above.

    4. They just don’t get it.

    5. They repeatedly distort or exaggerate the facts.

    7. They fail to acknowledge the context of the controversy.


    Actually the pertussis vaccine has had findings of 80% of the existing outbreak being found in the vaccinated, just the opposite of what you are claiming.

    Immunized People Getting Whooping Cough

    Of the 621 people who contracted the illness, 85 percent had all their preventative shots — calling into question the efficacy of the vaccine.

    Read more:

    The Current Failure of Pertussis and Measles Vaccine

    Nonhuman Primate Model of Pertussis

    Our results demonstrate that the baboon provides an excellent model of clinical pertussis that will allow researchers to investigate pertussis pathogenesis and disease progression, evaluate currently licensed vaccines, and develop improved vaccines and therapeutics.


  • You mean the posting of independent and unbiased informational sources that you flat out insist on and must continue to ignore, and all while you yet stubbornly hold onto all the false vaccine propaganda that you were fed.

  • The obvious insistence on the maintaining your own ignorance, is bliss, right; so called Pembry? So much bliss that it puts you to sleep? I told you so.

  • nworder

    Pembry is so useless at what he’s paid for he does the anti vax movement a great service since everyone can see his daft , vacuous comments for what they are.

  • Compared to what; a big pharma brainwashed and mis-educated, quack? Do you also yet fail to comprehend the concept of physiologically based health care? Do you think that is one and the same as chemical drug prescribing so called health care? Are most all health conditions caused by a deficiency of a for profit big pharma drug? And multiple human illnesses are caused by a deficiency of a injected toxic and known or unknown to be, contaminated vaccine?

  • Again, discredited by whom, and regarding specifically what? You get paid to reply post, and so it doesn’t even matter what the answer is, right?

  • You really should try and get honest, and actually educate yourself. You could get a good education from the recorded historical content of that site as well.

  • These people like so called Pembry and those who send them, are so far into denial that do not even realize how badly it is actually damaging their pro-vax agenda. I guess that is how it becomes when they have lost so much ground that they actually nothing left to lose. They all come from the same failed and word for word scripted reply posting school, and nothing ever changes, nor ever will. Nothing would ever be enough. And they do have everything to lose.

  • nworder

    I hope your children are up to date on their vaccine schedules – plus 60 poisonous injections to give them “health” .

    You must be out of work at an early age to sell your soul into the lake
    for such measly returns.
    Why not add to your income by polishing the $200 k mercedes of the vaccine executives and also their boots since you lick so much anyway .

  • nworder

    Is vaccination quackery ie. unproven, not scientific?

    “There has never been a single vaccine in this country that has ever been submitted to a controlled scientific study. They never took a group of 100 people who were candidates for a vaccine, gave 50 of them a vaccine and left the other 50 alone, and measured the outcome.
    And since that has never been done, that means that if you want to be kind, you will call vaccines an unproven remedy. If you want to be accurate, you’ll call the people who give vaccines quacks.”
    Prof. Robert Mendelsohn, M.D., 1986, Head of the Liscensing Board for the State of Illinois, paediatrician & gynaecologist for 30 years, medical columnist & best-selling author, recipient of numerous awards for excellence in medicine. (p.50)

    “The public is surely entitled to convincing proof, beyond any reasonable doubt, that artificial immunisation is in fact a safe and effective procedure, in no way injurious to health, and that the threat of the corresponding natural diseases remain sufficiently clear and urgent to warrant mass inoculation of everyone, even against their will if necessary. Unfortunately, such proof has never been given” Richard Moskowitz, M.D. 1983. (p.47)

  • Bill Pembry

    Wow what a long post! Baboons and mice! Science-based people look at animal studies suggesting pertussis vaccination could theoretically and secondarily (after exposure to an infected person) lead to an asymptomatic carrier state and say, “We need a better vaccine.” Anti-vaxxers say, “Stop all vaccinations!”

  • Bill Pembry

    RFK Jr. has no credibility.

  • Bill Pembry
  • Bill Pembry

    Ah, Lowell, so you are a germ theory denialist! And who is Thomas Johnson?

  • nworder


  • Bill Pembry

    Who wrote that, Lowell?

  • Bill Pembry

    Anti-vaxxers make up stuff like that because the science overwhelms them.

  • Bill Pembry

    “No one said the vaccine gave the baboons pertussis.”

    ““When you’re newly vaccinated, you are an asymptomatic carrier, which is good for you, but not for the population.”

  • Bill Pembry

    All you do is post garbage you copy/pasted from anti-vax sites.

  • Bill Pembry

    Anti-vaxxers always post the same long debunked tropes. It gets tiresome.

  • Bill Pembry

    I hear they’re particularly good at treating meningitis. You know there’s a vaccine for that?


  • Bill Pembry
  • Bill Pembry

    I could learn all about mole people also.

  • Bill Pembry

    My 3 kids are fully vaccinated and doing great, thanks. And thanks for contributing!

  • Bill Pembry

    It’s sad when promising doctors go over to the dark side. Moskowitz is a homeopath now!

  • Bill Pembry

    Dig, man, DIG!

  • Bill Pembry

    Apart from the obvious financial rewards why do you think I’m here, Lowell?

  • guest

    You need to stop responding to him. It’s pointless.

  • disqus_tKUiAezKl2

    60 years ago, the rate of autism was one in 50,000. Now it’s one in 50 and, still, we do nothing. If we armchair patriots don’t get out of our armchairs for our children, we deserve what we get. Do something, dammit.

  • Free People

    “C’mon guys I have 2 kids in college and another about to start and Lowell Hubbs has been practically AWOL lately. I NEED YOU.”..translation…every reply he cons from readers is BONUS pay. Ignore, and don’t feed the troll.

  • notsofree

    Most of us, who the media would call “anti-vaxxers,” are not really anti
    vaccinating, we are pro-freedom and pro-liberty. If you want the shots
    go for it. If you want to follow the “recommendations” go for it!!
    There is this place called America, where neither kings, nor queens, nor
    presidents, nor lawyers, nor doctors can force a law-abiding citizen to
    perform an act without said citizens or citizen’s guardians permission.

    The CDC makes recommendations, not commandments. Our
    constitution protects us from unreasonable searches and seizures and
    involuntary servitude. I am sure there is not a person in the media or medicine who would publicly fight to strip an
    individual of these protections.

    Suggesting the reinstatement of
    Slave Codes or the Recusancy Acts would be perposterous. Why a sane person, who has even a modicum of historical knowledge, would support any Govt. being given the power to force anything (medicine, healthy food, vitamins, or water) into our bodies is beyond reason!

    Every permission we the people have given our govt. has been abused, why would anyone think this would be any different.

  • Ruth

    Quite true. It’s about removing your freedoms and interfering with human rights.


  • Ruth

    College can be expensive. It certainly explains why a person would be trolling on the Age of Autism site too.

  • Bill Pembry

    Yeah I was shocked I could get comments posted there too! And thank you for contributing!

  • Bill Pembry

    You can’t legally abuse your children though.

  • notsofree

    abuse??? Like holding them down and stabbing a needle into their little body and pushing toxins into the flesh?? or abuse like keeping a clean house bathing regularly, feeding them healthy food, and letting the stay home from school, while their mother tends to their needs??

  • Bill Pembry

    Like not letting them catch vaccine-preventable diseases.

  • notsofree

    My 5 unvaccinated, un-antibioticed, non-drugged children don’t have any diseases!! They do have good immune systems that have been tried by some foreign viruses and bacteria.

  • Bill Pembry

    They’re lucky and are sponging off the herd.

  • notsofree

    They are innocent children, not sponges, and they don’t belong to a “herd” we are a human family!!

  • Bill Pembry

    They are innocent children and it’s sad they have an irresponsible parent.

  • notsofree

    Irresponsible? Like allowing your sons and daughters to play dangerous sports? or letting your children ride in cars?….Thousands upon thousands of children die each year in accidents related to automobiles, bicycles, sports and adverse medical events. I have just lived a simple life with my children…and you call me irresponsible.

  • Bill Pembry


  • nworder


  • nworder

    A sort of deep sickness of your soul that gets a kick out of promoting the vaccine abuse and poisoning of infants – maybe coupled with a sadistic urge of baiting anti vaxxers and people whose children have been killed or maimed with vaccines.
    I would not like to be in your shoes when you have to give an account to God of how you have spent your time and of every word you have written .
    You certainly would have signed up as a concentration camp labourer if you were living in at ww2 time .

  • As for all of the human rights abuse, vaccine harm to human health, and the vaccine injury going on and known as the result of the current CDC vaccine schedule; it is of course and obviously all legal, mandated, and protected from liability by the federal vaccine court. That does not make it in any way not the same equivalent of, and the same as child abuse; and in this case, highly profited from. To admit to their liability and what they have all along known, at this point would amount to a level of liability so devastating that the entire vaccine connected industry would be destroyed. Both the FDA and CDC are not doing their job, and exist as extremely corrupt organizations. They obviously do not serve and protect the public, but only the pharmaceutical industry.

    Herbert Leonard Ley, Jr. (September 7, 1923 – July 22, 2001) was an American physician and the 9th Commissioner and head of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

    In an interview to the New York Times, Dr. Ley warned the public about the FDA’s inability to safeguard consumers. People were being misled, he believed “The thing that bugs me is that the people think the FDA is protecting them – it isn’t. What the FDA is doing and what the public thinks it’s doing are as different as night and day,” he said


    Vaccines Market worth $57.8 Billion by 2019

    It is also a violation of the Nuremberg Code


    Vaccine Injury is “Rare”!

    Raise awareness for vaccine injury and shed light on how common it actually is.
    Have open, honest, and civil discussion about vaccine ingredients.
    Get answers for concerns about toxins in vaccines.

    “Vaccine injuries are rare”? Brave Atlanta Reporter Calls Out CDC Over Vaccines & Autism

    ER Nurse Shares His Experiences With Vaccine Reactions

    Open letter to EMA regarding HPV vaccine safety

    Peer review: a flawed process at the heart of science and journals

    Is Academic Medicine for Sale?
    MARCIA ANGELL, MD (Biography) / Editorial
    New England Journal of Medicine v.342, n.20, p.1516-1518 18may00

    A Thread for Autism Research Paper Links
    FDA Document Reports Autism Link After Tetanus, Pertussis & Diptheria Combination Vaccine

    124 Research papers supporting Vaccine/Autism Causation


    1053 studies on the harmful effects of vaccines.

    Reality Check: CDC Scientist Admits Data of Vaccines and Autism Was Trashed

    You see, even the media has been in error made and caused to believe the all of the false vaccine propaganda that the public has been fed. The Offit and CDC are as well is clearly not the purveyors of the needed vaccine safety science. In fact larger epidemiological (population) studies are in fact nothing but unreliable junk science, and all while the actually needed vaccine safety studies have never been done. To make matters worse, the many studies that have been done by independent sources and showing clear harm done by vaccines, and as well connections to autism, have all been disregarded by those within the having vested interests pro-vaccine side of the game.

    What Do The Epidemiological Studies Really Tell Us

    On April 11th, The Hollywood Reporter allowed Dr. Paul Offit, a known vaccination supporter and a man previously exposed by CBS News as being on pharmaceutical’s payroll, to write a movie review for Vaxxed. The CBS News report attaches Offit to both $1.5 million dollars and Merck, the pharmaceutical giant responsible for producing the MMR vaccine. Wakefield’s documentary, Vaxxed (under Cinema Libre Studios), investigates the CDC cover-up of a study showing that the MMR vaccine is linked to autism. With all that said, Offit would be the absolute worst person to review this film. Offit has never once reviewed a film in his life, The Hollywood Reporter’s opportunity would seem to be his first, convenient such opportunity.

    But things get seriously worse: Truthkings has uncovered a series of email exchanges between a representative of Cinema Libre Studio’s PR company and The Hollywood Reporter (THR). The events are as follows:

    On April 11th, 2016, The Hollywood Reporter publishes Offit’s critical review of Vaxxed. The team at Vaxxed immediately note extreme inconsistencies between Offit’s review and the actual contents of the movie, leading the team to question if Offit had ever even seen the movie. The Vaxxed PR team submits a rebuttal and a response (below) from The Hollywood Reporter’s Jon Frosch (Reviews Editor) indicates strongly that The Hollywood Reporter will run the rebuttal.

    “We’ll plan on posting by tomorrow afternoon at the latest. Thanks!”

    On April 21st, Frosch suddenly declines The Hollywood Reporter’s previous decision to run the story.

    Read more:

  • What is your personal bank account, sponging off of?

  • Bill Pembry

    The dose makes the poison!

  • Bill Pembry

    I’m trying to prevent vaccine-preventable disease in children while you’re promoting it. You have a lot more to be worried about.

  • So how is a parent irresponsible when not allowing their child to be injected with multiple toxic and known contaminated vaccines? Vaccines that as well have never been studied for their synergistic and cumulative effect, and especially when given from five and up to nine or more vaccines in a single day and office visit. Any disastrous result is simply again and again branded as only an unproven coincidence, and they just go on with business as usual. The vaccine injured infant or child by CDC standards as well will not be granted any general vaccine medical exemption, and the vaccination process will proceed until the health of the child is entirely destroyed, or the child dies. How are you being responsible Pembry, in the support of any such general vaccination policy outcome, and as you put it, to so called protect the herd?

  • Bill Pembry

    Wow what a long post! This epidemic of global vaccine injury you promote is just another baseless conspiracy theory, and not vaccinating your children should be criminalized.

  • Bill Pembry

    Why put a comma there?

  • You falsely support a highly questionable historical and current record of vaccine efficacy, as some sort of proven vaccine savior and big pharma produced injected holy water. You at the same time make complete denial of all the vaccine harm and injury that has taken place. You promote false fear and continued false fear in regard to human illnesses. What about as well all of the chronic illness, autoimmune disease, and the endless harm to health that vaccines have caused. Doesn’t any of it even begin to register in your mind at all, does it? As as well a falsely self assumed purveyor of the science; you are actually a purveyor of little to nothing.

  • Bill Pembry

    Because the global vaccine injury epidemic you believe in is just another conspiracy theory that you should be ashamed of promoting. Vaccines have saved millions of lives and are safe except in very rare cases of allergic reactions (which can accur with anything) and the much rarer cases of Dravet syndrome.

  • Bill Pembry

    “What about as well all of the chronic illness, autoimmune disease, and the endless harm to health that vaccines have caused.”

    Where is all that, exactly?

  • There was nothing actually that theoretical about the baboon study at all; the result and conclusion actually happened.

    Nonhuman Primate Model of Pertussis

    Our results demonstrate that the baboon provides an excellent model of clinical pertussis that will allow researchers to investigate pertussis pathogenesis and disease progression, evaluate currently licensed vaccines, and develop improved vaccines and therapeutics.


    Pertussis Vaccine Study Shatters Illusion of Vaccine-Induced Immunity

    In the second study, it states.

    An acellular whooping cough vaccine actually enhances the colonization of Bordetella parapertussis in mice; pointing towards a rise in B. parapertussis incidence resulting from acellular vaccination, which may have contributed to the observed increase in whooping cough over the last decade.

    That is not an argument for failure of the vaccine, period. So why have they yet done nothing to produce a “better” vaccine? These are all by the way issues that need to be exposed and addressed in the vaccination risk verses benefit ratio and the realistic outcome. Then of course in your biased mind the vaccine risks are so low that they are not even worth consideration; so essentially with you there is no honest debate going on at all. Never will be. Infants, children, and parents deserve much better.

  • Anyone at all with what you would call and consider an anti-vaccine information, (correctly termed as vaccine truth information), you have now claimed to have either no credibility, or that they have been discredited. Yet you never provide any argument, and nor any reference for your claims. But it all still helps you again get paid to reply post here, right?

  • Why don’t you start digging for some valid research material that actually gives some support to the pro-vaccine claims that you make, and that your fingers keep on typing?

  • You should know by now that the use of that blog is against the reply posting rules here. Your false discreditation desperation shows.

  • That is not an answer. Go ahead and answer the question. You have already admitted to it.

  • Your persistent level of obviously maintained ignorance and complete denial is surely amazing, and also downright disgusting.

  • If you know what dose of any substance in a vaccine makes for a harmful poison and what amount does not, go ahead and provide the studies? Then provide me as well with the studies that have been done in regard to combining multiple vaccines, and what the biological and neurologically toxic amount is and is not, regarding the vaccines they have studied?

    And also go ahead and provide me with all the actual vaccine safety studies that you have regarding the practice of injecting a small child with from 5 to 9 or more vaccines in a single day and office visit? Provide me the actual vaccine studies that you have in regard to the safety as well of vaccine aluminum adjuvants? Provide me with the studies that have been done in regard to vaccine safety and the issue of vaccine contamination?

    The Dose Makes the Poison–Or Does It?

    Does “the dose make the poison?”

    The Dose Makes The Poison Argument

  • So you even admit to it. You refuse and deny all evidence of the truth, so why else would you be here? It is your responsibility and no one else’s to answer that kind of question. Every claim that you make to the all benefit and low risk of so called preventing VPD, has already been long dis-proven and discredited.

  • You refuse to look, and your mind will only allow it to be considered as an unproven coincidence, and anything that conflicts with your pro-vaccine view and agenda is simply as well branded as only an unproven conspiracy theory. We all know where the real conspiracy exists. No human being could be that consistently and persistently in denial, unless it was deliberate. That is what trolling shills do. Most have or have had a career connected to vested interests in vaccines, and its continuance, and/or they simply get paid by those with that vested interest, and for the garbage and in denial replies that they continue to reply post with.

  • Bill Pembry

    You’re talking about baboons and mice, Lowell. And I don’t know who is working on a better vaccine but I’m sure someone is.

  • Bill Pembry

    I’ve not seen any credible evidence for vaccine harm except the rare allergic reaction (which can happen with anything) or the much, much rarer case of someone with inborn errors of metabolism. You believe in a conspiracy theory.

  • Bill Pembry

    You don’t understand what valid research material is.

  • Bill Pembry

    You asked why Blaylock is discredited. Feel free to refute anything in the article, though.

  • Bill Pembry

    Produce evidence I’m paid by BigPharma first.

  • Bill Pembry

    That’s you, Lowell.

  • Bill Pembry

    Those studies would be unethical and aren’t indicated. No one is going to put thousands of children at risk of vaccine-preventable diseases and waste millions of research dollars to once again prove the safety and efficacy of vaccines to a fringe group of conspiracy theorists.
    And again, Lowell, what group or institution specifically would you trust to do such a study? Name one (you won’t).

  • Bill Pembry

    So you can’t think of any other reason? C’mon, Lowell, use your crazy, conspiracy-laden mind.

  • Bill Pembry

    Thank you for proving my point.

  • notsofree

    Dear Billy:
    I believe my children are more so allergic to mercury than most children, so I felt it best not to vaccinate. Do you think that is irresponsible of me? I also feel that the level of lead in the drinking water here in Flint, MI is a bit too high, but I was assured it was fine and I should just let my kids “drink up!” I bought bottled water from tahiti, do you also think that irresponsible parenting??

    If so please direct me to the lab that will test my children to determine their level of sensitivity.

    Thank you Mr. Genius

  • How about if you actually reviewed the information, woke up and got honest about it all? Not going to happen, is it; and your trolling shill paycheck would be finished.

  • As I told you before I made no statement on who pays you, but just that obviously someone or some place somewhere obviously does.

  • Ok, just keep on simply replying like a bratty child. It’s so, you.

  • Bill Pembry

    I have no idea why you’d believe your kids are allergic to mercury, but since your kids can get fully vaccinated without it why is it even an issue?


  • Bill Pembry

    Stop posting crap.

  • Bill Pembry

    I think they pay you to make anti-vaxxers look even dumber.

  • Bill Pembry

    Have you thought about community college maybe?

  • notsofree

    Dear Billy:
    Whew, good thing all those nice considerate drug companies just stopped using Mercury in 2002. My kids just missed the cut off. I guess the universal knowledge of Mercury’s toxicity finally made its way into the inner workings of big pharma! I wonder if any children could be allergic to aluminum, formaldehyde,or neomycin. I mean some kids are allergic to just peanuts…We can’t even take peanut butter into the school, can you believe that some idiotic parents are worried about peanuts????
    Thank you Mr. Genius for clearing up all my concerns.

  • Bill Pembry

    I’d worry more about things like diphtheria, tetanus and meningitis but that’s just me.

  • The issue has never been allergies to mercury; it is the cumulative neurological toxicity of mercury that is the problem. The levels of heavy metals detoxifying glutathione are as well much lower in some individuals than others, and such as mercury can lower those levels even further. Today the aluminum adjuvants used in vaccines are a much greater toxicity issue. 80 years ago aluminum in food products, etc was determined by what was at the time essentially the FDA, to have a determined status of GRAS, generally regarded as safe. Thus when aluminum was additionally used in vaccines, no safety testing was required, and still it is not required today. That has been a reckless and major mistake.

    Aluminum Adjuvants – Lack of Safety Data – Lack of Aluminum Adjuvant Safety Studies

  • But you could care less about vaccine injury and multiple vaccines detrimental effect on human health. Just deny any vaccine connection and simply claim that everything is an unproven coincidence.

    When are you going to produce some actual vaccine safety studies showing the safety profile of vaccine aluminum adjuvants? Oh that’s right, you can’t because there are none. Just add a little also untested for safety polysorbate 80 to the vaccine, and aluminum passes right through the blood brain barrier. What a good deal. Do you ever wonder what has happened to all those Gardasil girls with now known unrecovered from neurologically based outcomes? That is just part of it.

    Vaccine aluminum adjuvant causation of neuroglial activation and neuroinflammation in the brain of patients with autism- Page 2

    Gardasil-The Flagship Example of the Failure of Vaccine Authorities to Regulate and Assure Vaccine Safety

  • You paying for it? Interesting that you have all the advise and when you yourself refuse to be and to get educated, and also when obviously your own schooling has left you with the uneducated results that you keep attempting to reply post with.

  • So you admit that the needed and proper studies have not been done. How is it then that you conclude that such obviously needed studies, aren’t indicated? How can you also claim to then that the dose makes the poison, and that it has been determined that injected doses and also that regarding multiple injected vaccines have been determined to be safe? And then you also turn around and deny any vaccine injuries as just an unproven coincidence, and determined as unrelated to any vaccine. Additionally you just forget about any need of facts and proof of your claims, and any opposition that calls you out is automatically branded as being only a conspiracy theorist. I have a different conclusion and as to your views and also your level of denial. I would classify your denial and your views as deliberately reckless insanity.

  • Only trolling pro-vax shills are paid. Go ahead and make a list of all the vaccine truther’s that reply post on this site that you think are paid? And in your obviously high level of hypocrisy you want to talk about who is making which side look dumber. You couldn’t possibly do a better job of making the pro-vaccine side look not only dumb, but entirely in denial, lying, corrupt, and morally bankrupt.

  • You post the same replies almost word for word as so called Thomas Johnson was doing. So after a few months you just simply change your character name and keep on reply posting? In your hypocrisy how about if you stopped posting crap?

  • This was your reply post. Who’s actually crazy? How long will it take for you to change your character name again?

    Bill Pembry guest • 2 days ago

    C’mon guys I have 2 kids in college and another about to start and Lowell Hubbs has been practically AWOL lately. I need you.

  • You are sure of a lot of things that are obviously not true.

  • nworder

    LOTS OF ALLERGIES COME FROM VACCINATION – EG PEANUT OIL or derivatives and things like egg proteins .
    There are 100’s of ingredient toxins that will give you every allergy under the sun.
    I have zero allergies and can eat anything at anytime – I am not vaccinated apart from one tetanus jag that I fell for – the nail in the foot.

  • You never had a point to prove to begin with. All you have proven is the your own major level of sick denial.

  • In your deliberate ignorance and denial, does this guy actually appear to you to be a quack, and as that deliberately ignorance filled repeated character assignations filled blog page falsely claims to?

    The blog pages states.

    That has produced no evidence showing long term negative side effects of vaccines. This is a lie and he has produced directly scientific explanations that have never been refuted and nor by anyone else in his field.

    That he has published no such studies, and nor on the vaccine autism connection. This is a lie and because he published studies, just not in an acceptable to you big pharma connected journal.

    That he not produced evidence regarding his claims about the dangers of aluminum cookware, or fluoridated drinking water, or dental fillings. This is a lie and those issues have been clearly outlined by him.

    Then Blaylock gets personally attacked for selling a good newsletter, and quality supplements that unlike pharmaceuticals, they that actually work.

    Every claim in that no author ever named blog, is simply a twisted lie.

    Again your level of hypocrisy is shameless.




    Session 22, The Vaccine Safety Conference: Dr. Russell Blaylock, MD, CCN

    How Vaccines Harm Brain Development

    Russell Blaylock M.D


  • Anything that does not have and promote a pro-vaccine conclusion in it is automatically invalid research in your mind, and you know it. I myself have repeatedly read and looked at both sides of the research on vaccines. I have done that for far more years than you will ever even begin to do.

  • That is because you have not looked, and refused any and all vaccine truth research and the studies that have ever been in front of you, and been put in front of you. You stubbornly refuse the evidence of any and all real vaccine truth, and reality.

  • What, you claim he is discredited simply because he stated that the MMR vaccine is causing autism?

    So how many of these studies supporting and as well replicating the known findings of Dr Andrew Wakefield 1998 Lancet study, can you directly refuse as discredited and invalid. None of them have been.

    Callous Disregard-Research

    Vaccines and Autism-What Do The Epidemiological Studies Really Tell Us (This analysis contains a full review of all the considered major studies, and details why they are nothing but fraud, unreliable and literally junk science at best).

  • In your sick and twisted in denial world anything that is vaccine truth information and/or studies you falsely and automatically claim has been long debunked. You are a liar and a fool, as none of that is true. The most tiresome trope going on here comes from your own stubborn mind, and your own hand.

  • Cynthia

    Have you ever heard of VAERS? Even the CDC admits that adverse events are grossly under-reported. Less than 10% and yet they have still paid out over 3 billion for injury compensation. Did you know that every vaccine has a .75 tax that goes into the fund to pay out for injury? The pharmaceutical companies have zero liability for their product. National Childhood Injury Act of 1986.

  • Truth can hurt

    If you would you give your child 100,000 vaccines in one day, like your hero Offit claims is one hundred percent safe, then there is something to talk about. (which means you either believe what you so strongly are saying, or you love money more than your children) either way, right now you are a babble mouth.
    Also if you would like to be more productive in your work, than go out and find some scientific research that can back what you say. In all your posts, I see no science, just gibberish. It could be you know you are up against the more educated, and that you don’t stand a chance, therefor you don’t bother with “scientific” evidence. In that case you must enjoy annoying people – no wonder you cant hold down a real, respected job.
    low lives usually think money is god and will do anything to worship it, even if it comes at the expense of peoples lives. Do yourself a favor and find something real to go after, help people, do something productive. When you die you want the world to be a better place. How would you like to be remembered? As one who mocked and brought destruction? or one who helped and saved lives? only YOU can decide.

  • nworder

    So true – I dont know why they pay him . He will have to face God to be judged on how he spent his time

  • nworder


  • nworder

    YOUR COMMENTS AL MATHER and the fact you change identities

  • nworder

    AND sterilising agents for young girls AL MATHER

  • nworder

    AL MATHER – No vaccine has ever prevented disease but actually spreads and sheds that very disease.

  • nworder

    AND when aluminium is injected into an infant – compared with an adult
    limit in food the baby is receiving 50,000 times the adult food dose.

  • Bill Pembry

    Who is Thomas Johnson?

  • Bill Pembry

    Lowell is a BigPharma shill.

  • Bill Pembry

    VAERS is a self-reported data base that doesn’t show causation. One guy reported vaccines turned him into The Incredible Hulk.

  • Bill Pembry

    “The issue has never been allergies to mercury; it is the cumulative neurological toxicity of mercury that is the problem.”

    Better take that up with notsofree.

  • Bill Pembry

    Keep believing your conspiracy theories, Lowell.

  • Bill Pembry

    Maybe a technical school?

  • Bill Pembry

    “How would you like to be remembered? As one who mocked and brought destruction? or one who helped and saved lives? only YOU can decide.”

    Yes, and I’ve decided to fight vaccine-preventable diseases.

    “It could be you know you are up against the more educated…”

    Lol not around here!

  • Bill Pembry

    Lowell, if you want me to respond to your links post something that’s not an opinion piece from an anti-vax site. Thank you.

  • Bill Pembry

    I told you you wouldn’t name one. Since you don’t trust anybody to do those studies why do you keep asking for them?

  • nworder


  • Bill Pembry

    It’s called sarcasm, Lowell. So you honestly can’t think of a reason anyone would attack anti-vaxxers other than money?

  • nworder


  • Bill Pembry

    And again.

  • Bill Pembry

    You’ll love this:


    That took like 25 seconds to find, BTW.

  • Bill Pembry

    Well here are his publications, Lowell:


    Which of those are studies that prove
    Long term negative side effects of vaccines

    Vaccines cause autism

    Aluminum cookware is harmful

    Fluoridated drinking water is harmful

    Dental fillings are harmful

  • Bill Pembry

    You don’t know “vaccine truth information”, Lowell. You’re a conspiracy theorist and deny germ theory.

  • Bill Pembry

    “So by that blog article, you claim he Halvorson is discredited simply because he stated that the MMR vaccine is causing autism?”

    If that’s all you could absorb from the article you have serious problems. But that alone is plenty.

  • nworder


  • nworder

    I would agree with these vaccines cause autism – definitely

    I threw out aluminium cookware a long time ago – it is toxic but one only absorbs less 1% in digestion but 100% when injected

    Fluoride is incredibly toxic and wont even save one tooth
    google the pictures of fluoride damage to teeth – they look horrendous
    poor kids conned by the govn.

    Mercury fillings are pure poison crazy stuff – Demand white fillings
    How many mercury fillings AL . (ALIAS JEM AND MARIA – LOL )

  • Truth can hurt

    “Yes, and I’ve decided to fight vaccine-preventable diseases.” – yeah because they are sooooo dangerous!
    Let me know when you give those vaccines to your kids. Might be a record if they survive though..

  • Truth can hurt

    That might not really matter to you though, because as stated earlier, you love money more than you value a life. NAZI!

  • Bill Pembry

    All 3 are fully vaccinated and doing great, thanks!

  • He reply posted here on these articles for months, and at the very same time as he stopped doing that, you showed up. Everything you reply post is exactly the same as he did.

  • I vote that as the dumbest reply comment of the week.

  • Clearly VAERS does often show causation, and in any honest mind. You are again generalizing far to much. Many of those reports directly show causation and beyond a reasonable doubt. Just because the FDA and CDC are derelict in their duty to fully and honestly follow those reports as to finding similar and common issues of concern, does indicate that the reports are meaningless. Again you deliberately missed the entire point of that reply post.

  • She can read my post. I will use you as my sounding board if I want to. You can learn from it as well; but you know you persistently refuse to.

  • So such information is unacceptable to you even when written by such as the below. How many more false excuses can you come up with to not answer my direct questions in requesting evidence for your claims?

    Nancy Trautmann, Ph.D., directs Cornell University’s Environmental Inquiry program, which focuses on enriching secondary science through helping students and teachers design and conduct environmental science research projects. She is lead author of the Cornell Science Inquiry Series, published by the National Science Teachers Association. Assessing Toxic Risk, one of the titles in this series, provides directions for assessing chemical toxicity using bioassay protocols similar to those used by professional scientists. Trautmann received her M.S. in 1980 and her Ph.D. in 2006 from Cornell.

  • We have already argued this on another article, and as well you received an answer there. It really does not matter what group or institution does the study, as long as they have no directly vested interests in vaccines and big pharma. All they need is the interest in getting the answers and the ability to collect and compile the data. Quit badgering and arguing over nothing,

  • Your answer is above.

  • I call it backpeddling. You refuse to allow for any honesty and actual debate of these issues. You have absolutely nothing to offer for research, and nothing at all to back up your statements. You repeatedly refuse any and all information and any form of obvious reality put forth from the opposing side. You just keep on putting forth more denial and more of your argumentative trash and to your keyboard, 7 days a week. You actually do the pro-vax agenda far more harm than good. So, its hard to believe that you sincerely believe in and with any honesty, your said cause .

  • How many different character names have you had and have you used here on this sites articles? This is the same wording in your replies to me here, as was 10 months ago, and you were not even here posting with your current name at that time.

  • Bill Pembry

    How about Al Mather? I’ve been called him, too.

  • Bill Pembry

    It makes sense.

  • Bill Pembry

    Gardasil post-marketing studies disagree.

  • Bill Pembry


  • So why is not GlaxoSmithKline or Sanofi Pasteur, etc working on it?

    It appears this vaccine again is only focusing on B. pertussis, and is not including B parapertussis?

    And so it is a live, attenuated vaccine. So are they wanting as well to go back to the days of the horrid DPT vaccine, and the serious risk that vaccine was? The DPT vaccine was what triggered the 1987 enactment of the no legal liability for big pharma, federal vaccine court

  • Bill Pembry

    If you read her article you’d see she says more research is needed. But you just copy/pasted it because of the title.

  • Bill Pembry

    Yes you failed to answer the question then also. Who would you trust?

  • Bill Pembry


  • Bill Pembry

    So you can’t? And Lowell all you post is crap, and then cry, “Nothing would ever be enough!”

  • Bill Pembry

    You seem really hung up on this. Why?

  • Bill Pembry

    Lol you just can’t admit when you’re wrong, can you?

  • Appears to be a mother.

  • Perhaps your both?

  • You seem really hung up on not answering. Why?

  • You missed these.

    Aluminum Induced Immunoexcitotoxicity in Neurodevelopmental and Neurodegenerative Disorders

    Russell L. Blaylock*

    Visiting Professor Biology Belhaven University Theoretical Neurosciences Research, LLC Ridgeland, Mississippi, USA


    A great deal has been learned about the neurotoxicity of aluminum over the past two decades in terms of its ability to disrupt cellular function. Newer evidence suggests that a more central pathophysiological mechanism may be responsible for much of the toxicity of aluminum and aluminofluoride compounds on the brain. This mechanism involves activation of the brainâ € ™ s innate immune system, primarily the microglia, with a release of neurotoxic concentrations of excitotoxins and pro-inflammatory cytokines, chemokines and immune mediators. A large number of studies suggest that excitotoxicity plays a significant role in the neurotoxic action of a number of metals, including aluminum. Recently, researchers have found that while most of the chronic neurodegenerative effects of these metals are secondary to prolonged inflammation, it is the enhancement of excitotoxicity by the immune mediators that is responsible for most of the metalâ € ™ s toxicity. This enhancement occurs via a crosstalk between cytokine receptors and glutamate receptors. The author coined the name immunoexcitotoxicity to describe this process. This paper reviews the evidence linking immunoexcitotoxicity to aluminums neurotoxic effects.


    Autism Spectrum Disorders and Aluminum Vaccine Adjuvants

    Lucija Tomljenovic, Russell L. Blaylock, Christopher A. Shaw


    Impaired brain function, excessive inflammation, and autoimmune manifestations are common in autism. Aluminum (Al), the most commonly used vaccine adjuvant, is a demonstrated neurotoxin and a strong immune stimulator. Hence, adjuvant Al has the necessary properties to induce neuroimmune disorders. Because peripheral immune stimuli in the postnatal period can compromise brain development and cause permanent neurological impairments, the possibility that such outcomes could also occur with administration of Al vaccine adjuvants needs to be considered. In regard to the risk of adjuvant toxicity in children, the following should be noted: (i) children should not be viewed as “small adults” as their unique physiology makes them more vulnerable to toxic insults; (ii) in adult humans Al adjuvants can cause a variety of serious autoimmune and inflammatory conditions including those affecting the brain, yet children are routinely exposed to much higher amounts of Al from vaccines than adults; (iii) compelling evidence has underscored the tight connection between the development of the immune system and that of the brain. Thus, it appears plausible that disruptions of critical events in immune development may also play a role in the establishment of neurobehavioral disorders; (iv) the same immune system components that play key roles in brain development appear to be targeted for impairment by Al adjuvants. In summary, research data suggests that vaccines containing Al may be a contributing etiological factor in the increasing incidence of autism.


    Journal of American Nutraceutical Association 6: 21-35, 2003.

    Interaction of Cytokines, Excitotoxins, and Reactive Nitrogen and Oxygen Species in Autism Spectrum Disorders, Russell Blaylock, MD* Medical Director, Advanced Nutritional Concepts Ridgeland, Mississippi


    There is growing and compelling evidence that excessive peripheral as well as central immune activation of brain microglia can result in alterations in brain growth and connectivity during rapid brain growth, the so-called “brain growth spurt.” A considerable amount of evidence, presented in this paper, demonstrates the deleterious effects of immune factors, such as cytokines, chemokines, and excitotoxins, when present in excess. The interaction between excitotoxicity, ROS and RNS injury and immune dysfunction is discussed. It is concluded that excessive activation of the brain’s immune system during critical growth periods can occur when vaccines are given as combination vaccines, using schedules that are too close together or by the use of certain live viruses in the vaccines.


  • Really? What have you posted that has any substance and reference to it? All you do is run your mouth on your keyboard.

  • Why don’t you just tell us who you think is a trusted enough source to do the said study? All of your false excuses as to why the study can not be done is as well literally lying nonsense. The data is there in the Amish and as well in the existing un-vaccinated with vaccine exemptions.

  • Who would you trust? Come on, tell me.

  • More research is always needed in most cases, of course. You entirely missed the informational point again.

  • I was not wrong. If the new vaccine does not include B parapertussis, they have again missed the mark. You were provided the reference study as to why that is.

  • Can you refute the historical data?

  • Paid for by Merck. How much Gardasil injury harm done would be enough?

  • How would I ever be connected to Big Pharma, and as well be anti-vaccine, and if you think that makes sense?

  • There exist actually large numbers of children with vaccine exemptions all across America. The non-vaccinating Amish people comparison as to health outcomes in itself would be very revealing.

  • I’ve already been to one. Perhaps you should interest yourself in an education attending informational vaccine truth seminars?

  • Bill Pembry

    What difference would it make?

  • Bill Pembry

    Who cares?

  • Bill Pembry

    How on your mind are those studies?

  • Bill Pembry

    Everything I post is from legitimate sources. You post crap.

  • Bill Pembry


  • Bill Pembry


  • Bill Pembry

    You don’t even understand it.

  • Bill Pembry

    No, Lowell, you’re wrong about no pharmaceutical company developing a new pertussis vaccine. So instead of admitting it like a man you start moving the goal posts.

  • Bill Pembry

    Lol did you write it?

  • Bill Pembry

    Well it looks like there isn’t any. Ask the Japanese.

  • Bill Pembry

    Because you post so much that is laughable you’re helping BigPharma. How much do they pay you you sell-out?

  • Bill Pembry

    The Amish do vaccinate, but even if they didn’t you can’t do a randomized trial like that. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

  • Bill Pembry

    Your idea of vaccine truth is Sherri Tempenny.

  • nworder

    THE AMISH SELDOM VACCINATE – this is just more disinfo from Al MATHER

    The sickest infants in all the developed world are the american infants
    with their 50 + toxic jabs by age 6 . They line up perfectly with the highest infant death compared with vaccination rates – so there is your study

  • nworder


  • nworder

    Your “legitimate” sources are from your pharma booklet

  • nworder

    As if this crazy act would provide immunity to any bacteria or virus .

  • Truth can hurt

    i am talking about the 100,000 vaccines in one day……
    dont beat around the bush- something you are proud of doing. GROW UP

  • Bill Pembry

    Why would I give my kids 100,000 shots in one day? You are a silly goose:)

  • nworder

    Paul Offit said a baby could have 100, 000 jabs no problem .
    You just love licking Offits boots – HE GETS MILLIONS YOU AL GET A FEW DOLLARS for doing the dirty work.

  • People who use multiple false identities to reply post with should obviously be banned from vactruth.

  • Actually and obviously it is the opposite and the reverse of that. You are doing such serious harm to the pro-vaccine movement and with your obviously lying and ridiculously inept replies that anyone connected to you on that side should immediately demand that you stop reply posting.

  • Any…what?

    Japan Withdraws HPV Vaccine Recommendation for Girls

    The Japanese government withdrew its recommendation to use human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccines in girls last week, citing concerns from the public about adverse effects, according to news reports.

    Read more:

  • I use dozens of sources, and have used as well many doctors in my references. Tenpenny is just one of the good speakers when it comes to vaccine truth videos and seminars. You could learn a lot, why not try it. But then we all know there is nothing going on with you but the complete denial of all vaccine truth information.

  • Really, and how is that? Go right ahead and explain. Just another lazy and cheap reply.

  • Claiming the Amish vaccinate is simply promotion of more false propaganda. Years back a small goup of Amish were fear mongered into vaccinating, and when their children started to develop autism they went to a treatment clinic, and the the story has been exploited ever since. The majority of Amish do not vaccinate, and that is obviously a large group of people in the US.

    The Amish Don’t Get Autism but They Do Get Bio-Terrorism

  • Its not even a question, and even more-so that has not already been answered. You don’t like the easy answer, so you demand a different one.

  • You are simply conducting nothing but repeated badgering and at levels that should be enough for you to be banned from vactruth. That is my answer.

  • You post absolutely little to nothing, ever for references, and you know it. You are a joke, and you should know it. You simply attempt to do nothing but form a deliberate distraction from any form of real and honest debate.

  • I think it clearly matters and for obvious reasons, and it should matter to vactruth editor. And you are not even denying it.

  • Bill Pembry


  • Bill Pembry

    Well if your pharma shill conspiracy theory is right why haven’t they fired me?

  • You rotten to the core big pharma prostitute, wake up and face the facts of what i stated to you, and instead of just ignoring it. And gain by the way a real man who actually believes in his cause here, uses his real name, and like I do. They don’t use false names and multiple false character names. Face it, you are a fraud and bought of to the point that it is beyond sick, corrupt, and subhuman.

  • Bill Pembry

    It’s just a political issue now due to the anti-vax movement there. The Japanese health ministry’s advisory council concluded:

    “The following theories can be considered as the mechanism that could cause the symptoms reported in connection with the present problem (1) neurological disorders (2) poisoning (3) immunological reactions (4) psychosomatic reactions. The theories from (1) to (3) cannot explain these symptoms, so the symptoms are regarded as the consequence of psychosomatic reactions in the (4).”

  • Bill Pembry

    She is a quack, Lowell. All anti-vax doctors are.

  • Bill Pembry

    You don’t have the education or the intellect for that sort of thing. Prove me wrong.

  • No reply to that now alias Billy P? Well now, doesn’t that figure just perfectly. Mr purveyor of the science? You have nothing and you talk nothing but entirely endless denial and entirely lying and mis-educated bull crap. Just give it up.

  • Bill Pembry

    About 85% of Amish children are vaccinated, Lowell. But even if none were vaccinated YOU CANNOT DO A RANDOMIZED TRIAL THAT WAY. I know you struggle with the concept of confounders, but trust me that would introduce way too many.
    And again, what group or entity would you trust to do such a trial? You just never answer that one.

  • Bill Pembry

    No you have only said who you wouldn’t trust. But you know that.

  • Tell me Mr Purveyor of the science, how are they NOT studies? What, just because they were not found in a big pharma connected journal? Go ahead and explain directly? How many more false excuses can you come up with to not accept real science in regard to vaccines, and vaccine safety?

  • Bill Pembry

    How do you reconcile the fact that you want a vaxxed vs unvaxxed trial but you wouldn’t trust anyone to do it?

  • Tell me exactly why the germ theory of and as understood big pharma and as you believe, is incorrect and Antoine Bechamps research is wrong?

  • Bill Pembry

    You don’t understand how to analyze what is legitimate and what is crap.

  • Bill Pembry

    Why does it matter though? And I haven’t admitted anything, Lowell.

  • Stop answering a question with an irrelevant question. You attempt to continue with simply and only another even more idiotic question, and an even more falsely badgering question.

  • Bill Pembry

    Ooohh a tough guy but still not man enough to admit he was wrong..

  • If you had the capacity to be honest, it looks like you are clearly overwhelmed right now. But then again why would you care, as you do not reply post with even as much as an actual identity.

  • Bill Pembry

    They’re just essays.

  • So you just admitted to that vaccines shed the pathogen.

  • Bill Pembry

    Germ theory IS correct. Bechamp’s central premise relied on non-existent “microzymes”. How many times are you going to ask the same question?

  • Bill Pembry

    So if I just copy/paste some nonsense with no identifying information you’re cool with that? (And I know you didn’t write it – your writing I’d recognize anywhere.)

  • Bill Pembry

    You’re really hung up on identities unless it’s another anti-vaxxer, aren’t you? What would you do differently if you knew who I was? I wonder…

  • So what you are telling me is that antibiotics can treat and prevent death in cases of meningitis. That is not even been disputed. What is disputed is the issue that the health risk and the shedding risk of the meningitis vaccine is worth the alleged benefits. They are not. Combined as well with other vaccines and especially Gardasil, that risk increases significantly.

  • Bill Pembry

    No, I was just proving you wrong again. Are you saying I wrote either of those quotes? Are you with us, Lowell?

  • Your stuborn level of in denial lunacy is amazing.

  • Bill Pembry

    The meningococcal vaccines aren’t live viruses you dumba$$.

  • And how beyond dumb was that comment. You are simply and obviously beyond mentally defective.

  • Bill Pembry

    Hey it’s your main source, Lowell. Are you afraid of the mole people or do you consider them our friends? I really don’t have a strong opinion either way.

  • You ask questions, and actually answer none.

  • Bill Pembry


  • Bill Pembry

    I answered the one right above this! About how we know smallpox is eradicated! Did you have lot’s of concussions in the past?

  • I read that Jenner attempted to as well use sewage fumes as an adjuvant in his first attempt at the making the small pox vaccine.

  • See what? See what a fool you are?

  • Because it shows how obviously devious and unethical you really are. So you think there should be no issue with and no rules of any kind in regard to the switching of your false identity character name, and as many times as you want?

  • So you are saying that all of the adverse reactions to Gardasil and the obviously hundreds of cases of unrecovered from outcomes after Gardasil in previously healthy and very active young women, are now considered and proven to you as being all only psychosomatic. You can burn in hell.

  • Quite obviously it is you that looks like the fool here in every post you make. That in itself is enough proof. Quite obviously my intellect and actual education in regard to vaccines, is so far above yours that there is clearly no comparison. You should once and for all simply face that fact.

  • No they are not 85% vaccinated, and that is just another lie. So then go ahead and provide the source of evidence for your said claim?

  • All it takes is an independent and unbiased mind. You simply do not have that capability quite obviously. Just look at your own obvious lack of cognitive ability and reasoning. You clearly and obviously live is a mind full of big pharma lies, extreme bias and denial. Just admit it.

    Go ahead and give me your opinion and analysis of this information. Start there, and the readers can see exactly what i mean.

    Dr. Kenneth Stoller: Vaccines Are Poisoning Children, American Pediatric Assoc. Knows It

    Dr. Kenneth P Stoller, MD was trained as a pediatrician at UCLA and was a fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics for two decades. In 2008 he resigned from the AAP after realizing that the AAP has known that mercury in vaccines can cause Autism and other neurological damage, yet the organization has refused to make a determined effort to have mercury (in thimerosal) removed from all vaccines. And in fact, has instead engaged in a cover-up to protect the interests of the vaccine makers and pharmaceutical empires. Please share far and wide – the public needs to hear this!


    Dr. Stoller’s Website for parents wondering if their child will qualify for a medical exemption: http://www.jabevalscalifornia.com

    Vaccines Cause Autism, ADD/ADHD & Brain Damage – Dr. Kenneth P. Stoller, MD


  • So as well to this point, when have you ever denied it?

  • If you had even as much as half a brain regarding your cognitive ability, and in regard to what I have stated and referenced to you on this issue; you can see why I am correct in what I stated, and why you are wrong. It is actually you who can not be, and refuses to be wrong, ever. Why are all you shills always such obvious hypocrites?

  • Go ahead so called Bill Pembry and as well tell me what is incorrect about the information stated in these videos done by Dr Russell Blaylock?

    How Vaccines Harm Child Brain Development – Dr Russell Blaylock MD

    Session 22, The Vaccine Safety Conference: Dr. Russell Blaylock, MD, CCN

    Vaccines & Immunoexcitotoxicity – Dr. Russell Blaylock

    Vaccines & Auto-Immune Diseases – Dr. Russell Blaylock

  • Really, how much of what Paul Offit puts forth is just an essay and with zero actual studies on vaccines to back it up? Yet you believe unquestionably anything he says, and/or anyone else that presents with their pro-vaccine claims. You see, I told you you entirely disregard any and all information that is not pro-vaccine in its study or informational writings. So, you are not actually being honest nor are you. You actually have no intention of conducting any form of an honest and unbiased debate of the information; and essentially I think you do know that Blaylock is correct.

  • awwww

  • Oh wow, you answered a question by stating that small pox was eradicated in 1977. Of course in your refuse all real historical information mind, that just had to be due to vaccines. What about all the questions you have refused to answer?

  • It is obviously NOT my main source, and you are again lying and making it up as you go.

  • I think it is more than just an opinion in the cases of college meningitis that I have read about, that cases of meningitis occurred right after beginning of the year vaccination. There is no way any vaccine maker can assure that all vaccine batches and doses are entirely inactivated. That risk remains, and to think otherwise is nothing but falsely trusting ignorance. On more reason to never be vaccinated.

  • You better start doing a better job of reply posting and in when you post you need to provide indication of which are your statements and which are someone else’s. Not just mix it all together. What was the point of and to your post? That reply makes no sense and is a complete screw up on your part, not mine.

  • You have been told before when replying with your other character names here that the ONLY reason an identity is required from someone like you is because you are an obvious trolling shill. Meaning that you obviously have undisclosed conflicts of interest in regard to the vaccine issues. The only purpose for the need of your identity is determine your level of conflict of interest. That is important, and if you had to reveal that and just like all shills I think you would be done reply posting here, and for reasons of embarrassment, and not at all because you think you are at risk of any so called anti-vax crazies. The medical side and its establishment have more evil crazies wanting the vaccine truth and those who put it forth silenced, than our side of this has or will ever have. I have never met from this side of it any such person or people.

    When we are talking about people posting vaccine truth here on this site, those people obviously do not have any form of conflict of interest as to received money or any vested interests in vaccines and/or big pharma. That be it through a career or otherwise. So therefore that is the difference between you and them, and why I see no need for other common reply posters here to be required of them an identity. So, for those reasons I am not being one sided or unfair in this. So now you know and you have no room left for your false excuses.

  • That article has hyperlinked references and/or the information is taken from the referenced book, Jenner On Trial: The Ethics of Vaccine Research in the Age of Smallpox and the Age of AIDS. The data as well follows well with what has been in other historical publications which do detail what the record source is and was for the data.

    My writing you might recognize anywhere and because you have been battling me on this site for months and months. I obviously recognize yours as well.

  • How many times are you going to entirely and deliberately miss the point? Bechamp’s work was as wel not only about microzymes, and you might as well admit that you do not have a clue about his actual work and the research information he put forth. Again you attempt to continually skid by with your overly narrow generalizing.

    The Trouble with the ANTI “Anti-Vaccine” Movement: How They Hijack the Issue; Distort the Facts; and Totally Miss the Point

    2. Anyone who disagrees with them is an idiot.

    4. They just don’t get it.

    7. They fail to acknowledge the context of the controversy.

    8. They over-simplify the problem.


  • Have you previously used any other character name to reply post on vactruth; yes or no?

  • I have never said ever that I would not trust someone or some establishment to do it, you deliberately putting words in my mouth, fool. There are plenty of places that are qualified enough to do that study. I do not care who does it as long as it gets done, and by a source that has a concerned enough interest in it to do it, and that also have no vested interests in vaccines and/or big pharma. How simple is that. Now shut up about your repeatedly badgering question.

  • I just replied to you on this, and I never said there is no establishment or organization that can be trusted to do that study. Surely there are plenty of them and which have no connections to vaccines or big pharma.You are again and again badgering with the same pointless question.

  • Really, and said all while you can not refute a single statement that she has made. You demand that it be believed that anyone and everyone including doctors that do not fully support the pro-vaccine agenda the unquestioned use of vaccines, be all of them branded as a quack. Let me tell you-you personally are obviously the biggest quack of them all, so called Billy P.

  • Probably because they are just as twisted, ethically and morally bankrupt, and as well in denial sick as you are.

  • Because when it is obvious you should be banned and that-that may be inevitable in time, and as has happened before, you just change your name and keep on reply posting. That practice should be clearly unacceptable.

  • Bill Pembry

    Another example of the crap you read, Lowell.

  • Bill Pembry

    See why BigPharma should keep paying you, silly.

  • Bill Pembry

    How is switching character names devious and unethical (not that I do it)?

  • Bill Pembry

    You’ll have to take that up with the Japanese health ministry’s task force, Lowell. They’re the ones who reviewed the cases.

  • Bill Pembry

    I agree there is no comparison.

  • Bill Pembry

    (68% + 17% = 85%)

    And Lowell, what do you think the word “randomized” means in a randomized clinical trial? Maybe we should start there.

  • Bill Pembry

    Stoller is a quack who is lucky to still be licensed and still claims autism is caused by vaccines.

  • Bill Pembry

    Why does it matter?

  • Bill Pembry

    You stated no pharmaceutical company was working on a new pertussis vaccine, though. I proved you wrong, and now you claim you were correct anyway. Take your fingers out of your ears.

  • Bill Pembry

    Lowell, you claimed Blaylock had done studies on all these issues. I proved you wrong by listing all the studies he had published. You then posted 2 essays he wrote and thought they were studies (they weren’t). Now you want me to watch 4 of his YouTube videos. YouTube videos aren’t studies either, Lowell. Why can’t you just man up and admit you were wrong?

  • Bill Pembry

    I don’t care how many damn references there are, Lowell. You claimed Blaylock had done studies on these issues. Where are they?

  • Bill Pembry

    Thank you for admitting you were wrong. I think that’s a first.

  • Bill Pembry

    Stupid is copy/pasting from whale.to, and that’s all you big boy.

  • Bill Pembry

    Do you believe in zombies, too? You are truly an idiot.

  • Bill Pembry

    Reading comprehension isn’t one of your strong points, Lowell. Read this slowly.

    You (Lowell Hubbs) said, “No one said the vaccine gave the baboons pertussis.”

    I (Bill Pembry) then posted the lead author’s (Tod Merkel) statement:
    ““When you’re newly vaccinated, you are an asymptomatic carrier, which is good for you, but not for the population.”


  • Bill Pembry

    “You have been told before when replying with your other character names here that the ONLY reason an identity is required from someone like you is because you are an obvious trolling shill.”

    So if in your mind you already know that, what would change if you knew my identity?

  • Bill Pembry

    At the bottom it says the article was written by a naturopath.

  • Bill Pembry

    Tell us how Bechamp’s theory holds up without microzymes, Lowell.

  • Bill Pembry

    Why does it matter?

  • Bill Pembry

    “There are plenty of places that are qualified enough to do that study.”

    Yet STILL you haven’t named one. Man up, Lowell.

  • Bill Pembry

    “Surely there are plenty of them…”

    Yet STILL you haven’t named one.

  • Bill Pembry

    ” You demand that it be believed that anyone and everyone including doctors that do not fully support the pro-vaccine agenda the unquestioned use of vaccines, be all of them branded as a quack.”

    Yes! And she’s a shining example!

  • Bill Pembry

    So you think they’re paying me to hurt their interests?

  • Bill Pembry

    Why would Vactruth have to ban people?

  • nworder

    JENNER your hero knew nothing about germs

  • nworder

    Of course you dont – AL MATHER , CAPT RON , BILL PEMBRY . TOM JOHNSON and the girl with the make up – lol

  • So you are saying that no one should be banned, and no matter what. Right?

  • Just like you perhaps they are to beyond stupid to even realize it.

  • So provide the evidence and prove it. You can not back up anything that you ever claim to.

  • Obviously I do not need to. Again your replies are just more badgering over nothing.

  • You go ahead and man up and provide an example of what source you think is qualified enough?

  • So you admit that you have and do not deny it.

  • Prove that microzymes do not exist. I am waiting for your reply.

  • More attempted false discreditation.

  • I already answered that in another reply post. Your conflicts of interest would be determined and nothing else. So in your mind what kind of a paranoid conspiracy theory are you suggesting is the case? You would be wrong. Go ahead and be a real man like I do, and reveal your identity. Not happening, is it?

  • Then start providing indication of who’s posts are who’s. You simply refuse to actually debate this issue in any honest, and without your attempts at the deliberate in denial smokescreen’s that you have attempted.

  • I could care less about any zombies. Are you one of them?

  • Whale.to is an excellent site for the real historical information that has been forgotten and covered up. Just look.


  • The only person that is obviously wrong is you. You refuse real AND THE TRUTH information.

  • They are right in front of you and you refuse them. That is your problem, not mine.

  • Why can you not be a man and simply face the truth in regard to the seriousness of physiologically based vaccine science, and the real informational data and studies, You are simply a quack supporting other big pharma mislead mainstream obvious quack’s.

  • What I said was that no pharmaceutical company is working on a vaccine that is any better than the existing one. That in fact is obviously true. So just face it.

  • Because of your obvious conflicts of interest.

  • Stoller as well is is a quack, LOL. Why is that; go ahead and detail that answer? You extremely sick and demented, man. Actually you are not a man, because real men tell the truth. You are a disgrace to all real men, period

  • In what part of that study do you find evidence for the 85% Amish accepting some vaccines claimed figure? It does not exist, and you are simply supporting false claims, pathetic.

  • Your uneducated and refuse to be educated to fact and vaccine reality reply posting ,clearly shows your high level of ineptitude.

  • Clearly the HPV vaccine in Japan is on hold due to specific reports of adverse reactions. What part of that do you not get?

  • LOL. You have done it multiple times and you are a low life from hell, and doing the devils work. There goes your credibility and any other hope that you have ever had here, for actually being believed.

  • No I don’t and unlike you I have never had any connection to big pharma and nor anyone else with a vested interest in vaccines and/or financially anything at all.

  • Billy “Bull..Crap” Pembry. Such a well deserved recognition.

  • I have not, and you? What is the actual cause of your deliberate SHEEPLE ignorance and stupidity?

  • See …what?

  • My main source is obviously anyone but me. So why are you so worried, obsessed with, and scared of the so called mole people?

  • nworder

    So Al Mather do you deny Pasteur recanted and agreed with Bechamp


    As discussed in The Lost History of Medicine, the Terrain is more important than the Germ.

    Pasteur described germs as non-changeable. We know today, from the use of Darkfield Microscopes that microorganisms are pleomorphic, that they can change and often do. A virus can become a bacterium which can mutate into a yeast or fungus. Modern medicine has yet to acknowledge this because it would turn the pharmaceutical interests on their backs like a helpless tortoise. Again, we follow the money….”

    “…It was Bechamp who discovered the pleomorphic nature of germs, and later on Bernard described the “milieu” or environment that affected/caused those changes. Bernard is the one responsible for our theories today on pH and how the nature of the microorganisms change as the body moves from an alkaline pH to an acidic pH. (This is covered in depth in our article The Lost History of Medicine.)

    On his deathbed, Pasteur recanted, saying that Bernard was right; the Terrain is everything, the Germ is nothing.

  • nworder


    However, since the Germ is so profitable, the medical world has written off his (PASTEUR) final statements as the madness of a dying man. We should all be so mad.

    Another problem with the Germ Theory of medicine is discovered when we look at Koch’s Postulates:

    The germ which causes a disease must be found in every case of the disease under the conditions which could explain the disease.

    The germ must not be found in other diseases or healthy people.

    The germ could be isolated and used to induce an experimental disease in animals which resembles the original disease in humans.

    Pasteur never quite fulfilled all the rules. He was not able to find the germ in all cases of a disease, and this is where his research became fraudulent.
    Additionally, many so-called pathogenic germs are often found in healthy people. And finally, when Pasteur passed a germ from one animal to another to cause the disease, he did not pass the germ alone, but took some blood with it.
    Injecting toxic blood from one animal to another will guarantee the receiving animal becomes sick….”

  • Bill Pembry

    Why should anyone be banned?

  • Bill Pembry

    But then how are they masterminding this whole global vaccine injury conspiracy you believe so absolutely?

  • Bill Pembry
  • Bill Pembry

    The irony is anti-vaxxers like you always whine about wanting the study done, but they can’t name one entity they’d trust enough to do it! So even if you could get around the ethics (and irrationality of the whole idea) it wouldn’t make any difference!

  • Bill Pembry

    It doesn’t matter what I think – YOU’RE the anti-vaxxer, Lowell. YOU want the study. If YOU can’t name a single entity you’d trust to do it why even ask for it?

  • Bill Pembry

    You’re putting words in my mouth, Lowell. But why does it matter?

  • Bill Pembry

    You made the claim they exist, so the burden is on you.

  • Bill Pembry

    Naturopaths are discredited by definition.

  • Bill Pembry

    “Your conflicts of interest would be determined and nothing else.” But you just said, “… the ONLY reason an identity is required from someone like you is because you are an obvious trolling shill.”

    Again, Lowell, since it’s already “obvious” to you, what difference would it make?

  • Bill Pembry

    OK, Lowell – I will. I sometimes forget who I’m dealing with here.

  • Bill Pembry

    And you’ve been “studying” vaccines for how long? 7 years?

  • Bill Pembry

    You mean like Pindar, the Lizard King?


  • Bill Pembry

    You don’t have any. Just more conspiracy theories.

  • Bill Pembry

    Your idea of a study is a YouTube video.

  • Bill Pembry

    So now you know why Blaylock is a quack. I don’t care if you admit it.

  • Bill Pembry

    “That in fact is obviously true.”

    How in your mind is that again?

  • Bill Pembry

    But you said you already know I’m a paid BigPharma shill. So what difference would it make?

  • Bill Pembry

    He is an anti-vaxxer. Like you. And he almost lost his license (and should have) for treating children with hyperbaric oxygen for which there is no efficacy.

  • Bill Pembry

    I knew you wouldn’t get it so I already showed the equation for you when I linked the article. And you still don’t have a clue. Look at the numbers, then go through the abstract, then keep going back and forth and just maybe a light will turn on.

    What does randomized mean in the context of a randomized clinical trial, Lowell?

  • Bill Pembry

    Why not just call it “posting” like normal humans? Why “reply posting”? Is there some other type of posting here?

  • Bill Pembry

    Like I said, it’s become a political thing due to the anti-vaxx movement there. And it’s a shame because over 3500 women die of cervical cancer there annually.

  • Bill Pembry

    That would just be your opinion. But how is it devious and unethical? You wouldn’t know who I was either way. You seem distraught over it.

  • Bill Pembry

    C’mon, Lowell, admit it. It’s all too obvious. You’re on the BigPharma take. There’s just no other explanation.

  • Bill Pembry

    Or were you just trying to be humorous? (You’re too creepy to be humorous)

  • Bill Pembry

    Maybe you have lead poisoning? I don’t know but you better get checked by a doctor. A real doctor.

  • Bill Pembry

    Why BigPharma should pay you to post, silly. You’d be worth every cent.

  • Bill Pembry

    Shouldn’t I be? I don’t read as much whale.to as you, obviously. Do they pose a real threat above ground ya’ think?

  • nworder


    VAXXED :-
    170 Deaths Following Gardasil Reported to VAERS as of August 2014

    “Gardasil will become the greatest medical scandal of all times because at some point in time, the evidence will add up to prove that this vaccine, technical and scientific feat that it may be, has absolutely no effect on cervical cancer and that all the very many adverse effects which destroy lives and even kill, serve no other purpose than to generate profit for the manufacturers.” – Dr Bernard Dalbergue

    A recent paper in the journal Molecular Cytogenetics indicates that HPV is not the cause of cervical cancer. Read the analysis by Norma Erickson and Peter H. Duesberg, PhD

    Healthy Wisconsin Girl, 12, Dead a Few Hours After Her First Gardasil Shot (click to read)

    Federal Court: Dozens of Reports of Premature Ovarian Failure Following Gardasil (click to read)

    New Documentary from Denmark: The Vaccinated Girls: Sick and Betrayed (click to view)

  • nworder


    Gardsil was only tested for 6 months (instead of the usual 4 years) and was then fast-tracked by the FDA at which time, Merck stopped testing and began to market it.
    There is no proof that Gardasil or Cervarix prevents HPV*, however it is know to exacerbate existing HPV infections.
    A known side-effect is sterility. Another side-effect is death.
    Serious allegations against the Gardasil and Cerverix vaccine trials affecting thousands of girls have been accepted by the Supreme Court of India.
    “Some of the girls died. Some suffered serious adverse effects. Some of the girls developed autoimmune diseases that will require lifelong care. The manufacturers themselves acknowledged adverse events such as anaphylactic shock, seizures and paralysis, motor neuron disease, blood clots, eye, ear and vascular problems and even death, and problems affecting the nervous system, the immune system, the musculoskeletal system, the blood and lymphatic system, the respiratory system, the gastrointestinal system and the vascular system.

    In the PATH project, these adverse events were grossly under-reported and hidden. Records were falsified. Deaths that took place were stated as having nothing to do with the administering of the vaccines and were described as deaths due to suicides, insecticide poisoning and snake bites.” Full story at VacTruth.com

  • nworder

    “How in your mind is that again ? ” GRAMMAR AL? GRAMMAR BILL ?

    VAXXED :-

    Premature Ovarian Failure Following Gardasil Vaccination, Sisters Say

    Eleven months after a federal court in Washington, D.C. heard a claim from Mount Horeb sisters that [Gardasil] caused their ovaries to stop producing eggs, it is not clear when the court will issue a ruling.

    In November, the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, a special court that evaluates claims of harm from vaccines, heard the claim by Madelyne Meylor, 21, and Olivia Meylor, 20.

    The women were diagnosed with premature ovarian failure at age 16, shortly after getting three doses of the vaccine Gardasil, which is recommended for girls and boys ages 11 and 12 to protect against cervical cancer, throat cancer, genital warts and other conditions.
    The hearing was continued in February and attorneys filed briefs through April, said Mark Krueger, the Baraboo attorney representing the Meylors.

    Krueger said he had expected a decision by now. But he has filed about a dozen other cases and is reviewing another dozen claims of injuries from the HPV vaccine, most involving ovarian failure but some including paralysis, blindness and death.

    The court could be gathering information on all of the ovarian failure cases before it rules in the Meylor case, Krueger said.

  • nworder


    Health Impact News Editor Comments

    TV2 Denmark has done something no mainstream media network in the United States will dare to do: look into the controversial HPV vaccine that many have claimed has ruined the lives of so many young women, and publish an investigative report.

    In December of 2013 Katie Couric did a show on the HPV Gardasil Vaccine where she dared to interview the mother of a young woman who died shortly after receiving the vaccine.
    Couric’s program was hardly pro-vaccine, as she gave both sides of the controversy, with a huge emphasis on the pharmaceutical side claiming the vaccine was safe, but she was viciously attacked by the mainstream media anyway and forced to apologize for even asking questions about the possible risks of the HPV vaccine.

    With such censorship so obvious in the U.S. mainstream media, it is refreshing to see the Danish media make this documentary available with English subtitles for the rest of the world to watch.
    Families and doctors are interviewed, and the tough questions are not censored. Similar to the U.S., these vaccine-damaged girls can find no help from their government since the vaccine injuries are vigorously denied by their government, leaving them and their parents feeling “betrayed.”

    – See more at: http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/tv2-denmark-documentary-on-hpv-vaccine-shows-lives-of-young-women-ruined/#sthash.iRXSj303.dpuf

  • I predominately focus on sources that are anything but whale.to. However you are right, I have read a lot of that historical record information, and you should to You know, the real record that the CDC refuses to acknowledge.

  • What a mentally defective and insane comment.

  • And just how would I have lead poisoning, fool? I did have mercury poisoning from amalgam tooth fillings and that was over 20 years ago. I resolved the problem by doing real independent research, and in having it removed correctly. All of your pharma mislead mainstream doctors say that mercury in tooth fillings are not an issue and because the corrupt ADA and FDA say yet they are safe. Imagine their liability if ever forced to acknowledge what they have done to millions of human beings. Just like the CDC refuses to admit to their liability for causing 1000’s of existing vaccine injuries, and then turning around and simply denying it. I obviously know more about heavy metals toxicity than you will ever know in the next 10 life times.

  • Actually it is you that is obviously extremely creepy. Your sick soul is entirely dead. Your conscience is dead. Interesting how your replying claims are word for word exactly the same as previous Thomas Johnson.

  • C’mon vactruth, just once and for all simply ban this falsely harassing lunatic!!!

  • Bill Pembry

    And you think you’ll find reliable stuff on whale.to.

  • Bill Pembry

    It makes perfect sense.

  • Bill Pembry

    You didn’t have mercury poisoning, Lowell. You’re just a dumbass. How much did that cost you BTW?

  • Bill Pembry

    I don’t know where any Thomas Johnson went, Lowell. Do you?

  • Bill Pembry

    You’re a BigPharma sell-out.

  • Distraught? LOL How beyond mindless can you actually get. It is devious because you are doing that about the time that you think you may get banned for your months long extended stay on vactruth posting nothing but lying and harassing BS. It is unethical because it is just that devious. Cowardly is actually the correct term. How cowardly is someone that finds that need to change their character name as you have and do, and when your original name was not representing as much as even a real identity?

  • Quite obviously proper screening would have saved many of them. Since the June 2006 wrongful FDA approval of Gardasil, there is still existing zero evidence that Gardasil has prevented a single case of cervical cancer, and/or that it ever will. When at least 80% or more of HPV is eliminated by the immune system and without any serious adverse effect resulting, why would you inject three doses of a toxic and now known contaminated HPV vaccine and which can potentially dysregulate the immune system to the point that it does nor work and nor respond adequately and nor correctly? Why should anyone risk the known adverse effects and the known un-recovered from outcomes after Gardasil, and even death due to the vaccine, for a risky and unproven outcome like that?

  • So now you are arguing about words again and their proper use and understanding. That is the first sign of a loser that has nothing left to stand on. Is reply posting the same thing as posting a meeting notice at lets say, big pharma?

  • No it is you that does not have a clue. The statement was, 85% of Amish parents surveyed accept some immunizations. That does not tell anyone how many of the thousands of existing Amish they surveyed. Secondly no study done by so called pediatrics can be trusted, ever.

  • Actually biomedical treatment has seen great success in many children with autism. Many as well have had a near complete reversal of the symptoms of autism. So why is it that recovery should be denied and ignored by the pro-vaccine? You know whey, because such a recovery and by those means of course points directly at vaccines as the cause. And what does big pharma have to offer for hope; absolutely nothing but drugs that only mask the symptoms. First they cause the problem and then profit again from its so called treatment.

  • I did not say it was big pharma. It could be multiple possible sources. You need to provide your identity and as well list any and all conflicts of interest. We all know that you would entirely disappear from vactruth, or come back in with a different character name if that were to be exposed.

  • You have already had that answer right in front of you. You don’t like the answer so you demand a different one or to be reworded in another way. So how you operate?

  • You have shown absolutely nothing for evidence that Blaylock is a quack. You have only shown that you are a lying and in denial quack. You have also demonstrated your own very high levels of persistent and willfully deliberate maintained ignorance.

  • The videos done by Blaylock as well explain much of what is in the studies you were given reference to. So in your so educated mind what can you refute in those videos, and/or those three studies? Nothing at all, right; that’s what I thought. You refuse real physiologically based science on vaccines and the vaccine issue in general. You simply must deny it all. You must deny that the information and the real answers are there.

  • Bill Pembry

    But I don’t post lying and harassing BS. You’re just clueless.

  • Really, and were you there? Did you talk to anyone I seen in that removal process? No you didn’t. Did you experience the recovery from several health issues that mainstream never had and never would have had an answer for? No you did not. So therefore it is you that exists as the clueless and obvious in denial dumbass.

  • Any what? So perhaps you should take some classes on how to write and to properly make and outline your point.

  • Bill Pembry

    It’s been shown to be neither toxic or contaminated. Since most cervical cancer develops over years due to HPV infection and we’ve only recently started vaccinating for HPV it’s going to take some time. What are the anti-vaxxers going to say after cervical cancer rates drop like a rock? And do you not think they do PAP smears in Japan? Or is there another kind of screening you’d recommend?

  • Bill Pembry

    You tell me, Lowell. They’re obviously paying you to post here.

  • The historical writings regarding vaccines and the individuals within the medical field of specific time periods, are an entirely separate section of that site. But then the use of false discreditation is all you have ever had, and ever will have.

  • Bill Pembry

    We’ll just say you’ve been proven wrong again.

    Now, what does randomized mean in the context of a randomized clinical trial, Lowell?

  • I have been in the research and reply posting circle since 2008.

  • Bill Pembry

    “Actually biomedical treatment has seen great success in many children with autism.”

    Bull$hit. Go ahead, Lowell, copy/paste some YouTube videos and testimonials you liar.

  • Bill Pembry

    “I did not say it was big pharma.”

    Lol another lie.

  • Perfect and so scholarly Billy P can simply do no wrong. So what is your real name?

  • You know very well what I am talking about is the direct evidence. If you are not what I say you are, then provide the evidence that you are not?

  • Bill Pembry

    You mean B. parapertussis? You idiot. The current vaccine doesn’t cover B parapertussis. Think of all the years you’ve wasted, Lowell.

  • The standard big pharma based medical model is discredited with evidence of their obvious failures.

    Death By Medicine

  • Bill Pembry

    Just stick your fingers in your ears and yell, “LALALALALALALA…”

  • Bill Pembry

    You haven’t produced the studies you claimed he did. You are a failure.

  • You were provided directly the information, and of course denied and refused it.

  • That is not a yes or no answer.

  • Bill Pembry

    Only a complete idiot like you would pay to get his fillings yanked out because he thought he had mercury poisoning. Did they soak you feet in the little foot bath and show you how the paper changed color? I bet they did. You were scammed.

  • Why are you so concerned about the source doing the study and when I am not? Like I said obviously there are many sources that could do that study, and which are independent and with no connection to vaccines and/or big pharma. Your repeat and false badgering, and as well your argument is endlessly pointless.

  • Bill Pembry

    You know if you get lost in the conversation you can always scroll up. Maybe you can write that on a sticky note and put it on your computer screen.

    I said you don’t have any “truth information” – just conspiracy theories.

  • Bill Pembry

    Wow what a convenient site. Lizard people, mole people and vaccine information all in one.

  • Bill Pembry

    That’s even worse moron.

  • Bill Pembry

    William, but only my mom calls me that – usually when I’m in trouble.

  • The point is that it does not matter as long as they do not have a vested interest in vaccines. Again, if we are not concerned about the said issue, then why are you? You are taking up the issue, not us. You are as well using the question to as well evade a and the question directly as to why that study has not been done. Why has it not been done, by big pharma or the CDC? They can fund and conjure up all kinds of other junk science studies allegedly showing no harm done by vaccines. The data base is there, (no matter how much you deny it) and it does not require anyone to not be vaccinated that normally would have been.

  • Bill Pembry

    So you know it’s “obvious”, but you still want “direct evidence”. How does that make sense in your mind?

  • Bill Pembry

    Do you think aliens are among us too?

  • Bill Pembry

    Once again you’re claiming to have provided evidence you haven’t.

  • And who is the named author of that twisted character assassins blog. Doesn’t appear to be any. None of it actually addresses the vaccine truth information that Tenpenny puts forth, therefore it is simply a tabloid style hit piece. And you are obviously ignorant enough to actually take stock in that as all factual? Such a pathetic man.

  • Bill Pembry

    You need to explain why it matters though.

  • Bill Pembry

    “Why are you so concerned about the source doing the study and(sic) when I am not?”

    Because if they did it and the results were that vaccines are safe and effective you’d claim the source was biased, of course.

    “Like I said obviously there are many sources that could do that study, and which are independent and with no connection to vaccines and/or big pharma.”

    Great, Lowell! Name one!

  • Who is, they? A large part of it is in realizing the large number of parents who have told their stories regarding their vaccine injured children. Those personal accounts of what happened are everywhere. That alone is driving the vaccine truth research and the so called anti-vaccine movement. A large number of people are becoming aware, and needing answers they are not getting from such as the CDC etc. All they are getting is a misinformation and lies filled smokescreen.

  • You are a perfect example of why some people should be banned on this site.

  • Bill Pembry

    I evaded nothing. I told you that an unvaccinated arm is unethical and that such a study isn’t indicated anyway. I also explained that going around picking a control group from little pockets of non-vaxxing communities is going to introduce too many confounders, and it wouldn’t be a randomized trial anyway.

    The issue with who does the study is anti-vaxxers constantly complain that every study showing vaccines are safe and effective is biased. So since they’d be doing the study only to try once and for all to convince a paranoid conspiracy-laden fringe group that vaccines are safe and effective, both sides would have to agree on a group that had the resources and expertise but was unbiased.


  • Bill Pembry

    Name one incorrect thing it says about her.

  • Bill Pembry

    So are you saying that there isn’t a global vaccine injury cover up masterminded by BigPharma, the CDC, the WHO, various governments, etc??

  • Bill Pembry

    But why?

  • You think and state that no rules should exist and that no one should be banned, ever. And you think that you should be able to post like a bratty child and distract from and disrupt any form of honest debate on this sites articles, and for as long as you want to, correct?

  • Nothing is being masterminded; it is simply being denied on all fronts by anyone with a vested interest.

    Here is just one average example of that.

    Report: Ireland Fights HPV Vaccine Injury & Pharma Control

  • It states among many other false accusations that she is relying on, well, conspiracy theories, gut feelings and pseudoscience. That claim is absolutely false as most everything I have seen her speak on is fully referenced. You go ahead and put forth some specific claims in regard to vaccines that she has made and which you consider to be false, and then tell me why it is false. Your mind works just like such blog articles and everything is falsely generalized and with no direct evidence to show and/or prove anything at all which is claimed to. Again, that article it is nothing but a false accusations filled and personal attack hit piece.

  • You are the only person here with the issue as to that study, and only person who is continually and endlessly whining about it. What should that tell you? Even if the CDC directed that study it would still be better than no such study ever done at all. You simply go on and on in your false and blathering attacks and repeat miserably misguided accusations.

    When they have never studied the actual safety of giving multiple vaccines and as many as five and up to nine or more vaccines in a single day, then obviously the study is indicated. When the safety of aluminum adjuvants has never been studied, such a study is indicated, and as well many more specific vaccine ingredient safety studies studies. When only one vaccine the MMR, and one single vaccine ingredient Thimerosal is the only thing they have studied on an epidemiological, (population) basis, and as well when analysis having been done show those studies to be nothing but unreliable fraud, that said health outcome comparison study is obviously needed and thus indicated.

  • Guess what, if and when that study is done and even if the CDC directed it, it is going to show some serious results in which it is obviously found that the un-vaccinated are significantly healthier. There is no way to cover that up. That is why I am not all that concerned about the source of the study. The CDC is absolutely terrified of doing such a study, and as to what the findings will be. They already know, and they will avoid doing that study for as long as they can ignore the need for it. Stop badgering with the same mindless question which has already been addressed repeatedly.

  • Because you think that it should not matter, have not denied it, and because you are obviously guilty of having done it. Yes or no questions; are you having difficulty comprehending what those are?

  • Once again, you were provided directly the information, and of course you again falsely denied that it had any significance, and you refused it. Nothing would ever be enough, and you must deny it. That is all to obvious and it is simply your only agenda, and you know that.

  • I have of course never thought any such thing, but the very existence of you, makes me wonder if I should rethink that.

  • You are essentially denying or at least failing to admit that you have used other character names. You as well have denied that you have existing major conflicts of interest. You have denied being paid to do what you do here on a continual 7 days a week basis. So lets have your direct evidence for that my claimed to accusations are unfounded? You refuse to do it.

  • That level of years and hundreds of hours of vaccine truth research, is a bad thing in your mind; how is that. And then you add name calling to it? What kind of a person does that?

    I think you have reached the limit of your harassment, when are you going to be banned? Vactuth you need to get on this, but again he will likely only change his character name again.

  • With a son like you-you should have had a good old fashioned throttling and a thrashing, and perhaps you wouldn’t have turned out to be as entirely despicable as you exist today.

  • Actually it is very convenient when you want to know and learn the real history of so called modern medicine and as to how misguided and corrupt they are.

    Here are some more easily understood sources for that information.

    Origins of Medical Industry Corruption

    Pharma Not in Business of Health, Healing, Cures, Wellness-Ex-Pharma Sales Reps Speaks Out

    The Real History of Modern Medicine
    Origins of Medical Industry Corruption

  • As a fact it was mercury toxicity and poisoning. My body simply did not ave enough glutathione left to detoxify it all. Anyone who was around me at the time seen the major benefits that removal had. As well how do you have large sores in your scalp also disappear that mainstream had no answer for and had been there for over a year. Those disappeared after the first and largest quadrant of mercury containing fillings were replaced, and my body could then start to detoxify and eliminate the accumulated toxic load of mercury that I had in there. You don’t know even the half of it all. Only someone as in denial argumentatively dumb as you could believe that mercury is something that is safe for everyone to have implanted in your mouth. That is what started this whole journey to the truth and finding the truth through independent research. And guess what, I am really darn good at it; deny it all you want.

  • Everything I post is vaccine truth information. You have no way to counter it but the use of lies and more false discreditation. Just because you must deny it all, does not make factual information, not factual.

  • Bill Pembry

    “You think and state that no rules should exist and that no one should be banned, ever.”

    No, I asked you why anyone should be banned.

  • So its not a study and even thought it has a fully referenced scientific references list for every statement of fact that the paper makes. That is how real science and scientific discover is made and done. What kind of outcome do you think Paul Offit would have if those papers were put in front of him and he had to face Dr Russell Blaylock in a one on one debate. Offit would be finished and as well any CDC minions that have supported him. Failure is found in your rejection of the actual and real health care science, based on the physiological effect and workings of the human body. In this case the subject matter being vaccines.

  • In your existing level of complete hypocrisy, that is exactly what you are doing, not I.

  • Bill Pembry

    So you think all these doctors, organizations, agencies and governments independently suppress an epidemic vaccine injury crisis?

  • That is what I said in my earlier reply post and which was referenced. The issue is that the vaccine containing only B pertussis is causing B parapertussis to become far more dominate. B parapetussis is not in the current vaccine. That is exactly what I stated earlier. In many cases they as well do not test to see which strain is actually present when they make a diagnosis. So actually and obviously it is you that has not followed and understood the information that I have put in front of you. You call names and attempt to make a false mockery out of me; when it is actually you that is the idiot.

  • Bill Pembry

    It’s not just vaccines she’s wacko about, Lowell. He links to her germ theory denying homeopathy promoting detox BS article on why getting the flu is good for people here:


  • Bill Pembry

    So you’d accept the CDC doing it? You find them unbiased and completely trustworthy?

  • Bill Pembry

    And what would you say if the CDC did the study and concluded vaccines are safe and effective, Lowell?

  • Bill Pembry

    It matters because I think it should not matter? What?

  • What is wrong within your twisted mind and that keeps on deliberately misrepresenting as a lie, what was actually true, and just as I have said it was? Simply twisting words again, and obviously there is no limit to your loser level of desperation. I have never said who is funding you. It could be big pharma, it could be a medical facility, it could be almost anyone with a sick enough mind to keep doing it, and to also target me specifically. So are you ready to reveal that source of funding now? Go ahead and get started.

  • Bill Pembry

    You’re not being specific or clear, Lowell. Post the evidence you have that microzymes exist and specifically and clearly point out how it proves that.

  • Bill Pembry

    Do you think we really walked on the moon?

  • Bill Pembry

    You made the claim, Lowell. You provide the evidence.

  • Bill Pembry

    So after all those hours Googling about vaccines how can you still believe meningococcal vaccines are live and the B pertussis vaccine covers B parapertussis?

  • The many parents who have given their accounts of recovering their child after autism, and in the reversal of that autism; should be more than enough evidence of its success. But then and as you said, if you could you would like to as well put all those doctors involved with it, in front of a state board and take away their licenses for actually reversing autism and healing autistic children. How would you know anything when you obviously refuse any and all research and reference to the issue? Just because in your mind you simply must deny it and must reject it as it simply can not be? And again you just suck up as fact any falsely discrediting propaganda that you find.

    How is this example not a success story? And there are many more. You simply refuse the evidence of truth and reality.

    Carolines story

  • Bill Pembry

    Yes, Lowell, you’ve certainly led a model life haven’t you?

  • Bill Pembry

    Is that before or after the mole people?

  • Bill Pembry

    How do you know you had mercury toxicity again?

  • Bill Pembry

    How can you have vaccine truth information when you deny germ theory?

  • Bill Pembry

    Right, it’s not a study. And I’d love to see that debate!

  • Bill Pembry

    You keep telling yourself that.

  • Bill Pembry

    You claimed no one was trying to make a better B pertussis vaccine. After I proved you wrong you started moving the goal posts to include B parapertussis. It’s what you do, Lowell.

  • Bill Pembry

    You made the claim, let’s see you back it up.

  • Bill Pembry

    Like I said, testimonials. Show me research studies (you can’t). How many quacks have killed kids with chelation, Lowell?

  • Focusing on and arguing about the meaning of the term randomized, still does not tell anyone how many Amish the survey actually contacted and received information from. The said survey is and was just another attempted smoke screen in the deliberate evasion of the truth.

    randomized clinical trial (RAN-duh-mized KLIH-nih-kul TRY-ul)

    A study in which the participants are assigned by chance to separate groups that compare different treatments; neither the researchers nor the participants can choose which group. Using chance to assign people to groups means that the groups will be similar and that the treatments they receive can be compared objectively. At the time of the trial, it is not known which treatment is best. It is the patient’s choice to be in a randomized trial.


  • In eight years no one has paid me a dime, and now they are going to start paying me? Who is it? I still don’t have a check; when can I expect it? As a fact no one is paying me anything. When you say obviously, just how are you determining that nonsense?

  • High levels of aluminum adjuvants in all three shots is clearly toxic. The witches brew of other combined ingredients to include the equivalent of borax, is also toxic. The HPV DNA contamination that was later found in the vaccine was the same contamination that Merck had at time of approval assured the FDA was checked for and was not in the vaccine. It was in the vaccine. Since then the FDA has simply blown it off and because they have to, as there being no scientific study evidence that the said contamination is doing any harm to health. It has actually never been studied. The FDA now states that it is a normal finding in vaccines, even after obviously knowing it would be an issue in 2006, if it was in there. If such a finding is normal and as found in vaccines, then they are admitting that all vaccines are contaminated. You can’t have it both ways. In the FDA’s own filed literature they clearly have known of the seriousness and potential danger of vaccine contamination, both known and unknown. The FDA is filled with nothing but a revolving door with the pharmaceutical industry, corruption. They serve only big pharma and their minions.

    Like I said, the only possible way HPV can cause cancer and if it does, is when it becomes a chronic and unresolved viral infection. That means the immune system would have to be compromised and dysregulated. One way that could happen is though the injection of toxic and contaminated vaccines. Why risk it and all the reported adverse effects, unrecovered outcomes, and as well the possibility of resulting death from the vaccine itself?

    You tell me fool; are you saying pap smears do not exist in Japan?

  • You do it every day, and then deny that you have.

  • Bill Pembry

    Well at least you can copy/paste it.

  • Bill Pembry

    Lying shill.

  • Bill Pembry

    So you think no one can get HPV unless they’ve been vaccinated. That’s exactly why people like you aren’t in charge of anything.

  • Bill Pembry

    You just hate being proven an idiot day after day.

  • Really? And in your complete madness, how is that?

  • He and by that name never existed, as he was you. So you don’t know where you went? Send out a search party.

  • So again go right ahead and explain that.

  • There are loads of real history there and which directly show the misguided level of corruption within your pharma mislead circles. Do you ever think of actually facing the truth?

  • Quite obviously it is you that is being repeatedly shown as the idiot. You will never give up your high levels of delusional hypocrisy.

  • I have never stated any such thing. Obviously anyone can acquire HIV if exposed.

  • Provide even a shed of reasoning and/or evidence for your accusation. You are an obvious lunatic.

  • nworder

    Lowell pembry capt ron al mather and his other alter egos has picked up
    a ton of cash doing idiotic one liners against you .
    Your articles are good enough to post to anyone but him .

    The purpose of a troll is to keep good anti vax research off the blog and to divert the conversation

  • So you are again going to refuse to admit that I am right?

  • You tell me how many children have been killed with chelation; you made the accusation. Chelation and be harmful if not done correctly. Those facilities that do it correctly have not had any such issues. Most of these children are not receiving the known adult form of IV chelation, but is done with supplements and such as DMPS cream. It has been very successful at removing heavy metals of several kinds. If not vaccines then where is that coming from?

  • As I said, I need not back anything up with direct proof of who actually pays you, and as obviously you are paid off by someone.

  • It is not a better vaccine and as it is an attenuated live vaccine and if the past record of the live DPT vaccine is any indicator, it may be a more effective vaccine as far as B pertussis; but it will also be a much more dangerous vaccine as for causing vaccine injuries. As I said before, their failure to include B parapertussis which has become much more prevalent, in that vaccine, continues to entirely miss the needed mark in regard to the issue of potential over-all efficacy. You again simply fail to understand and admit to the risk factors verses potential benefits. No goal posts were moved and these have been my statements and conclusion from the very beginning.

  • Are Donald Monty and Thomas Johnson your evil twins, or is it just split personality disorder? You all three replied with the very same twisted claims and reply wording? Reminds me of the “Three Stooges”.

  • So in other words you feel you can disregard the massive amount of physiologically based scientific information in those three informational research studies, and simply by terming them as not studies. What were they studying and reporting on then if not vaccines and the adverse effect of vaccines, and as well by the available referenced literature ; was it in your mind somehow peanuts, or perhaps only popcorn?

  • How can you be and remain that ignorant and in persistent denial?

  • By the health conditions it was causing, and fully detailing that is none of your business. Just like the medical circles of HIPAA laws, it prevents people like you from intentionally and falsely exploiting the situation. Just be assured, the situation resolved almost entirely, and with no help from the mislead medical establishment.

    Huggins Applied Healing

    The Danger of Mercury/Amalgam Tooth Fillings

  • So you are saying that the real history of medicine involves mole people, and that is right in the same section of the sites information. That is what you are falsely attempting to imply. So, that again makes you a liar and in attempting to deceive any possible readers that would waste the time to read your garbage.

  • Bill Pembry

    They pay you to post here.

  • Another attempted false personal attack, and by a reply poster with himself no real identity. What kind of a model life do you call your own, and to include your level of hypocrisy. Actually I am well respected by most people I meet and know.

  • Bill Pembry

    What about Al Mather and the other guy? Do you know where they went?

  • Bill Pembry

    Remember, Lowell, when you forget what we’re discussing just scroll up a bit. Did you make that sticky note?

  • Bill Pembry

    About reptilians and mole people?

  • Bill Pembry

    Yeah, whatever, Lowell.

  • Bill Pembry

    We’re talking about HPV. Wake up, Lowell.

    So why do you feel HPV can only infect people with weakened immunity but a healthy person can get hepatitis C through just a needle stick?

  • I have never stated that B pertussis vaccine covers B parapertussis. My stated point all along has been that it was not in the vaccine and that it did not cover it. What I said was that for any vaccine to be adequately improved and for efficacy, that it needed to include B parapertussis. I put the study right in front of you that obviously showed the reasoning for that said needed change. That study also showed how and why it is the current pertussis vaccine that is causing the shift in strains and in causing B parapertussis to become much more prevalent. That is how nature, and the nature of it works. Gardasil has a s well caused other HPV strains to become more virulent. They knew that was happening right during the clinical trials, and was discussed concerns in the 2006 VRBPAC preapproval agreement. Nothing stops a Merck product from getting FDA approval. The vaccine science is really yet in the dark ages as to their needed understanding of what they are actually doing.

  • The evidence is in the striking similarity in the accusations, claims, and in the wording of your reply posting over at least the last ten months, and which should be clearly evident to anyone that has followed it under your obviously changed character names.

  • Bill Pembry

    Explain in your own words how picking a control arm out of only unvaxxed kids from little pockets of non-vaxxing communities would be random?

  • I could care less if they did or didn’t.

  • Bill Pembry

    Where is what coming from?

  • Bill Pembry

    No, you are paid by BigPharma, not me.

  • Bill Pembry

    You’re just squirming like a little worm now.

    How many kids do you think have died from B parapertussis anyway, Lowell?

  • Bill Pembry

    You tell me, Lowell. You have all the answers, right? Are Bubba Joe Watkins, Truthstorm and Wildman your evil triplets?

  • It is all found in Antoine Bechamp’s work and you were already provided the sources of information. You refuse to educate yourself and make denial of any and all forms of evidence that the standard medical model is and has been built on false understandings. I am not here to educate someone like you who refuses to be educated and as well that persistently refuses any and all put forth reasoning and reality.

  • You need to put the whole paragraph together and not attempt to take one single sentence out of context. You argue just to argue.

  • Bill Pembry

    You claimed Blaylock had personally published studies on issues he had not.

  • Bill Pembry

    You tell me, Lowell, you tell me.

  • As I said, that not going to happen because clearly it is well known that un-vaccinated are always much healthier. Studies as well already exist that clearly show that to be fact. Just face it, there is only one possible conclusion outcome as to that study, and the CDC has long known that they will lose if it is ever completed.

  • Bill Pembry

    So some quack dentist gave you a foot bath and you paid him like a good little sheeple to yank out your fillings.

  • Bill Pembry

    I can’t believe I’m even having an argument about the credibility of whale.to.

  • Bill Pembry

    I guess you have to try to look at things in a positive light.

  • Even the CDC can not fudge and lie about a study that badly, and as to cover-up the evidence they will find as to the un-vaccinating being much healthier. If that is the only way a large scale study can be funded and done, then they at the CDC should do it, and they should have already done it years ago. Who’s responsibility for funding and doing that study is any more obvious than the CDC? The congress and federal government itself should fund it, and it is long overdue.

  • Bill Pembry

    Lowell, you should have lived in the Dark Ages.

  • Bill Pembry

    That’s purely subjective.

  • Bill Pembry

    “It is all found in Antoine Bechamp’s work…”

    How in your mind is that specific and clear?

  • It appears again that in your obviously uneducated understanding of natural health care and in your view of the article, that you have entirely and even more likely, deliberately misrepresented the article.

    You can’t even form a reasonable and coherent argument. You just rubber stamp everything with the word and terms, denied and wacko. You are uneducated and as well obviously wacko, so just stop attempting to put forth that you think you know what is in that article. You actually don’t and you obviously have no education and nor qualifications to make judgement on it. You are a complete joke.

  • Bill Pembry

    You are afraid to answer that, aren’t you? C’mon, Lowell, what would you say if the CDC conducted the study and found vaccines to be safe and effective? Of course we both know that couldn’t POSSIBLY happen, but humor me. Think of it purely as a hypothetical.

    What would you say?

  • They deny the existence of vaccine injured children and when it is obviously right in front of them. They are trained in their big pharma schooling to believe that it does not exist. Instead of helping these children and their families, they simply walk away again and again in denial. Start doing and accepting some independent research. You refuse to.

  • Bill Pembry

    But for YEARS you have raged against the corrupted BigPharma-led CDC, Lowell. What if you didn’t like their results this time too?

  • Bill Pembry


  • Bill Pembry

    You know that’s hundreds of thousands of people, right? Are they under mind control?

  • All of so called Pembrys posts are now gone. Either he was banned. or left.

    You know how the shills always go not to a science journal, but to Gorski for their false counter attack claims? Check this out.

    Dr. David Gorski named in medical conspiracy allegations complaint filed with Karmanos Cancer Center and Michigan Attorney General
    (Gorski is a blogger at “science blogs” and author/editor of so called, “Science Based Medicine)

  • nworder

    I read about Gorski – Al et al could have been Gorski – great news He’s gone .

  • Ruth

    Germ theory as a basis for a pro-vaccination stance is utterly bonkers and infantile. It’s like trying to use basic kindergarten maths to work in an area that is essentially college level. This is a definition of germ theory.
    It was proposed in 1546, it is THAT old!
    You wouldn’t believe the amount of microbes that live on us or in us. We’re all walking human microbiomes.
    Perhaps the public needs to be more concerned about our immune systems and less about corporate profits? That’s what all this pro-vaxxing stuff is all about – profits and forcing the public to make them.

  • Ruth

    I’d say in the pursuit of truthfulness and ethics it is really quite important. I mean, nobody wants medical fascism and that is what we’ll all have if big pharma is not stopped. In fact they’ve more or less sewn it all up anyway. It’s such a HUGE scandal. Thought these links might be interesting.