FDA Approved Vaccine with Autism and SIDS Listed as Adverse Events, Vaccine Safety Website Removes Information

Snapshot of FDA Tripedia

Some very disturbing news recently came across my desk from a fellow activist.

The Tripedia vaccine product insert was removed from the Johns Hopkins Institute for Vaccine Safety website. [1]  I also discovered that it is now missing from the Centers for Disease Control Vaccine Price List. The “official” reason is likely Sanofi Pasteur’s discontinuing the production of the vaccine. [2]

However, closer inspection of the Tripedia product insert reveals another smoking-gun relationship between vaccines and autism.

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Click on the photo to see the enlarged version of the illustration.

 

Snapshots of the Johns Hopkins Vaccine Safety Website both before and after the Tripedia vaccine information was changed.

 

THE SECRET MEETING YOU WERE NEVER SUPPOSED TO KNOW ABOUT

Information can disappear for many reasons.

For example, perhaps a webmaster accidentally removes the hyperlink to the Tripedia vaccine product insert. But if it was removed intentionally, we obviously have a situation where “The Authorities” want to limit the exposure of very damaging information. Before you can appreciate what disappeared, you need to know why this information is so important.

Let’s get right to it.

Some vaccines contain a particularly nasty ingredient called thimerosal. The purpose of this organic mercury preservative in vaccines, as stated on the FDA’s website, is to prevent the growth of harmful microorganisms. [3] However, there are major concerns from parents regarding the mercurial compound being neurotoxic to children.

 

Snapshot of the Verstraeten study dated 02/29/00 showing a statistically significant relationship between mercury exposure and autism. [4]

In June of 2000, members from the Centers for Disease Control, the Food and Drug Administration, and pharmaceutical companies, met in a secret meeting held in Simpsonwood, GA. The topic of discussion was the relationship between thimerosal and autism.

We know what was said at the meeting because parents obtained the transcripts through the Freedom of Information Act. The conversations are chilling. [5]

Here are three important quotes from the Simpsonwood Document:

…the number of dose related relationships [between mercury and autism] are linear and statistically significant. You can play with this all you want. They are linear. They are statistically significant.” – Dr. William Weil, American Academy of Pediatrics. Simpsonwood, GA, June 7, 2000

“Forgive this personal comment, but I got called out at eight o’clock for an emergency call and my daughter-in-law delivered a son by c-section. Our first male in the line of the next generation and I do not want that grandson to get a Thimerosal containing vaccine until we know better what is going on. It will probably take a long time. In the meantime, and I know there are probably implications for this internationally, but in the meanwhile I think I want that grandson to only be given Thimerosal-free vaccines.” – Dr. Robert Johnson, Immunologist, University of Colorado, Simpsonwood, GA, June 7, 2000

But there is now the point at which the research results have to be handled, and even if this committee decides that there is no association and that information gets out, the work has been done and through the freedom of information that will be taken by others and will be used in other ways beyond the control of this group. And I am very concerned about that as I suspect that it is already too late to do anything regardless of any professional body and what they say…My mandate as I sit here in this group is to make sure at the end of the day that 100,000,000 are immunized with DTP, Hepatitis B and if possible Hib, this year, next year and for many years to come, and that will have to be with thimerosal containing vaccines unless a miracle occurs and an alternative is found quickly and is tried and found to be safe.” – Dr. John Clements, World Health Organization, Simpsonwood, GA, June 7, 2000

The last quote by Dr. John Clements is important and revealing, because here is what happened next.

Additional Information For You

For an excellent commentary on the harmful side effects of thimerosal, read Patrick Jordan’s two part series:

BIG PHARMA IS QUICK TO RESPOND

Recall that the spotlight of this story is on the Tripedia vaccine.

Tripedia is an FDA approved diphtheria, tetanus, acellular pertussis (DTaP) vaccine and the Centers for Disease Control recommends that infants be injected at 2, 4, and 6 months of age. [6]

It contains thimerosal.

Nine short months AFTER the Simpsonwood meeting mentioned above, the Food and Drug Administration approved a “thimerosal free” Tripedia vaccine. [7] Do you think the FDA might have been a bit concerned about the findings discussed at the Simpsonwood meeting?

I personally think so.

You can now see the importance of the following passage on the FDA’s website:

“Much progress has been made to date in removing or reducing thimerosal in vaccines…In March 2001 the FDA approved a second DTaP vaccine formulated without thimerosal as a preservative (Aventis Pasteur’s Tripedia, trace thimerosal).[3] (emphasis mine)

In my opinion, it couldn’t be any clearer. The pharmaceutical companies are being shielded from a landslide of litigation. But here’s the smoking gun I promised to show you.

 

EXTREME ADVERSE EVENTS (AUTISM & SIDS) REPORTED

The smoking gun comes in the form of the Tripedia vaccine product insert dated December 2005. This places the insert four years on the timeline after being approved for a “thimerosal free” alternative.

Keep in mind, no massive recall was made for the vaccines already containing thimerosal. The vaccines stayed on the shelves and were injected into your children. The reason you didn’t hear about any major recalls of the vaccines is because doing so would have jeopardized the public’s confidence in the entire vaccine program.

With that, I’m going to suggest that this information may radically change the way you look at vaccines forever.  Page 11 of the Tripedia product insert states:

Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS [Sudden Infant Death Syndrome], anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea.” [8] (emphasis mine)

SIDS is most likely to occur between 2 and 4 months of age. [9] DTaP is given at 2,4, and 6 months. [6]

Strange coincidence, is it not?

The insert continues to say it is not possible to establish a “causal relationship” between the reactions and the components in the vaccine. In other words, the language is saying you can’t blame the vaccine for these conditions, even though they were reported.

Snapshot of the FDA website and the Tripedia Vaccine Product Insert.

The FDA has a large problem on their hands, and they know it. They approved vaccines with thimerosal and are trying to keep the situation quiet, especially when it comes to parents.  As shown in this article, this information is coming up missing. But, the missing information did shine a HUGE spotlight on the information in the vaccine product insert.

With all the controversy surrounding vaccines and autism, why even mention it in a vaccine product insert for an FDA-approved vaccine?!? We may never know the true answer, but consider this question for a moment.

How many times have you heard a doctor or health worker hysterically say there is ZERO chance that vaccines cause autism?

My hope is for health professionals to take the time and independently research vaccines. However, researching vaccines and putting the pieces together can be difficult, especially when information disappears.

CONCLUSION

The secret Simpsonwood meeting points to a direct causal relationship between vaccines and autism. This information prompted vaccine manufacturers to rapidly and very quietly manufacture a thimerosal-free vaccine with the FDAs full cooperation. I think parents need to keep that in mind.

Four years after a “thimerosal free” vaccine became available, a cryptic paragraph referencing autism and SIDS appeared  in a vaccine product insert. Now that information is being scrubbed from government and vaccine safety websites. Shame on them!

And by the way, Mom and Dad, as of May 2, 2012, the Johns Hopkins Institute for Vaccine Safety knows Tripedia has trace amounts of thimerosal. [10]

You need to know that if your child is injured by a vaccine, your doctor is not held responsible. Read the vaccine product inserts. Research the information for yourself. Don’t take for granted that your doctor has done it for you.

 

 

Thank You to VaxTruth.org!

A warm thank you goes to Marcella Piper-Terry for bringing to my attention information regarding Johns Hopkins Institute for Vaccine Safety website taking down information regarding the Tripedia vaccine. You can find some of her excellent material at the following URLs:

1. Website: http://www.vaxtruth.org

2. Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VaxTruth

 

  • Nancy

    I JUST discovered this package insert about 4 days ago while doing some reading on the internet. A dear friend of a family member had a baby die week before last. He was found dead in his crib. I do not know if he was vaccinated or not, but I would guess that he was. It breaks my heart that parents do not read the package inserts.  

  • AussieMum

    Remember the Supreme Court (USA) ruled that vaccines are ‘unavoidably unsafe.’

    Remember the secret meeting at Simpsonwood and the cover-up of Thiomersal (Aust. spelling) because the experts were concerned about the adverse effects of mercury.

    Remember the Italian Court ruling that MMR causes Autism.

    So why aren’t governments all over the world listening?

  • Karen

     Nancy,  I so agree with you!  I work in the healthcare industry and this year they made the influenza vaccine a “condition of employment.”  I have been there twenty years and they talked me into the flu vaccine two times and both times I had a reaction.  Thankfully, I was able to obtain a medical exemption from my personal physician, but had I not received that exemption, I had already decided I would not take the vaccine just to save my job.  I took the time to read the package inserts on several of the influenza vaccines.  It is shocking, and I agree with you that hardly anyone actually reads them.  I have tried to share with others what they say.  I noticed that Walgreens is advertising the Fluzone vaccine.  I told my husband the other day I wonder how many times they have people who just walk off the street and get a shot and walk out the door without even knowing there is a possibility of having an anaphylactic shock reaction.  You can die from that very quickly without proper medical treatment. 

    Here is a link to the influenza inserts if you would like to share with your friends and family as I have done.  Have them pay special attention to the studies that have not been done regarding certain outcomes.  Here is a link to just the influenza inserts. 

    We are fighting a very scary, huge battle. 

    http://www.immunize.org/packageinserts/pi_influenza.asp

  • Adriaan

    it is a crime (NSW crimes act ) to administer a poison without informed consent. It is a criminal offence to force (through denial of eduction and other services) anyone to take poison. 

  • Torngurl

    Always so informative. God bless you, and your family. Keep us in the truth.Amen

  • Patrons99

    Excellent post, John! Mercury may not be the only supposedly inactive “excipient” we should be concerned with, in the scheduled vaccines. IMO, there is likely to be cumulative, synergistic, and systemic toxicity.

    Tripedia – Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis Aventis Pasteur USA800.VACCINE*Corynebacterium diphtheriae and Clostridium tetani toxoidsand acellular Bordetella pertussis adsorbed aluminum potassiumsulfate, formaldehyde, thimerosal, and polysorbate 80 (Tween-80) gelatin, bovine extract

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/351499/Vaccine-Ingredients
    http://www.novaccine.com/vaccine-ingredients/index.asp?v=b

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    Patrons99 – You’re absolutely correct regarding the ingredient thimerosal! Next  questions for parents could be: “Why is this in vaccines in the first place?” & “What harmful microorganisms would be growing in the vaccine without it?”

    Not to mention, as you succinctly point out, what other harmful ingredients are in the vaccines!

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    Thank you Torngurl for your support!

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    Very heartbreaking. :(

  • Gina Apilado

    Good on ya, Mate!

  • John Fryer

    All a bit like history time all over again.

    UNAVOIDABLY UNSAFE (High courts of the USA)

    ANAPHYLAXIS after repeat vaccines (Charles Richet)

    Secret meetings to HANDLE deaths from vaccine in the UK (S R meadow expert witness once)

    Refusal of the vaccinators to receive vaccines (people with education, knowledge and that rarest commodity – COMMON SENSE)

    JUST OBEYING ORDERS (heard it before)

    Fortunately for people in top health it is often others than pay the price with sudden death or lifelong illness:

    47 per cent pre-diabetes from where? Vaccines is one good coincidence?

    10 per cent with Multiple Sclerosis Lesions from where? Vaccines is another good coincidence?

    25 per cent of certain groups is the risk annually for getting Alzheimer Disease from where? Vaccines is  a third possible coincidence?

    Of course I would be happy to know it wasnt vaccines causing pandemic non-infectious illness IF we knew what was causing illness to reach these levels from effective ZERO levels pre-vaccines.

    All a bit like history time all over again. 

  • KeineImpfungenMehr

    Let me share something with you, which is another adverse reaction to vaccines. This adverse reaction would have been diagnosed as SIDS if my grand-daughter would have died. It appears that this adverse reaction may be rare or simply not properly diagnosed. My grand-daughter laid in her crib unresponsive and would have died if her father would not have been alert. We have read a lot of books and articles and Dr. Harold Buttram pointed us in the right direction. The antibiotic nyeomicin (sorry, not sure about the correct spelling) and by the way a neurotoxic antibiotic is in the 5 in 1 vaccine (incl. Pertussis). Dr. Buttram points out that the antibiotics destroy the gut flora which leads to bleeding. My grand-daughter had a bloodvessel in her brain rupture (and suffered a subsequent stroke) because of a severe lack of Vitamin K (Vit. K is produced in the intestinal tract). She almost died and I am sure they would have called it SIDS. There are so many different adverse reaction this poison aka vaccine can cause that it is truly mysterious to me that not more babies die. And I tell you something else, having a baby die or almost die, is THE WORST  experience of my life and I feel for all parent who have lost children. It is a huge battle before us to teach people and make them unlearn that vaccines are dangerous and do NOT benefit anyone. I am doing my part and am spreading the word, but you can only lead people to the water – you can’t make them drink.

  • Tsnrum

    When my daughter (now 25) was young, there was an Informed Consent form you had to sign, the last line of which stated that this, as with any drug, may cause death.  But you still had to sign it stating that you knew the dangers but were not given the choice not to take it.  Once I found that NY amended its laws and allowed for religious exemption without regard to particular religion’s tenets, she received no more vaccinations. When using a religious exemption in NY schools, you will be told that should an outbreak occur of a disease for which your child is not vaccinated, he/she will be forbidden to attend until that outbreak is over. If an outbreak occurred, I would think my unvaccinated kid would be the first to get it, recuperate, and go back. So if being forbidden to go to school is supposed to scare me….sheesh.

  • John Fryer

    Hi Nancy

    You need to tell your friend to register this with the VAERS if there has been ANY vaccine given before this sudden death.

    A firm believer in vaccines 15 years ago before looking at FACTS. Today while supporting the need for people of 5 or more YEARS to get vaccines it is apparent that earlier than this deaths can be glossed over, not least by PROSECUTING the parent or carer LAST seen with the living infant.

    While we argue about one death every ten years in the UK from measles why dont we take a PROPORTIONATE attitude to 47 per cent of the world (vaccinated world) that have pre-diabetes, the 25 per cent (vaccinated world) with an annual risk of Alzheimer Disease and the 10 per cent of us (vaccinated world again) with pre-Multiple Sclerosis lesions.

    Rather, like the time in the UK when action was taken for SMOG in 1954 London, we SHOULD, 20 years ago, have taken action for the INVISIBLE SMUG attitudes of doctors who can’t see health catastrophe when we have been faced with it for TWO DECADES.

    Instead of MOUNTAINS of research saying WE DONT KNOW or we can rule out the obvious VACCINE CAUSE, lets  just have  a few research articles EXPLAINING todays HEALTH CATASTROPHE and what IS causing it.

    For your friends family and the dead baby this HONESTY will come TOO LATE, as for the more than ONE MILLION DEAD BABIES coincidentally DYING shortly after vaccines in the last 40 years.

    HARRY CLARK alive and healthy at 4.30pm when vaccinated. Dead by 10.30pm and mom gets double life in PRISON and expert witnesses explain the vaccine made this death LESS LIKELY. WHAT XXXX (four X) LIARS they were. S R Meadow for example one ex-expert witness.

  • Dukeboy17y17

    You can’t put side effects in a package insert when you don’t know all the side effects. Two perfect examples are Gardasil and H1N1 vaccines. Both were fast tracked by the FDA with only 6 months of testing done to a very limited population of people. Those people were not young kids (infant, newborns). These big pharma companies have no clue what effects these poisoned vaccines have on children (and adults) and aren’t even concerned either. They are making tons of money off of vaccines and the deleterious long term effects of them

  • Dukeboy17

    Why should they be concerned about your kid being in school during an outbreak, if they are all vaccinated and fully protected what do they have to worry about?

  • triplem

    the question is….why is anyone getting vaccinated?

  • vmom

    Nancy,
    Look this article up on the internet. It will provide exact instructions for how to document  and protect evidence.  

    A Parent’s Guide: What to do if Your Child Dies After Vaccination By Catherine J. Frompovich | August 21st, 2012

  • Argus

    Wow Jeffry, a couple of websites take down a document that continues to be widely available to the public ( easily found with an internet search) and you call it ‘disturbing news’? Woops, I guess someone forgot to tell the FDA to take it down!

    A list of reactions that can be found on the voluntary reporting system VAERS is given and you callit a ‘smoking gun’? As if this information has not been publicly available for years and years.

    And all this has what to do with thimerosal?

    I have a new motto for your website – I suggest displaying it prominently on the banner:

    “BIG LIES BUILT ON SMALL TRUTHS”

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

     Is that the best you can do?

  • 441019

    In trying to look at the package insert for Tripedia, on the Sanofi-Pasteur website–I could not find the pkg. insert. I found out that the vaccine, from what little information I could gather, is no longer being made, but that IT WAS STILL BEING DISTRIBUTED UNTIL THE SUPPLIES WERE TO BE USED UP.  So I deduce that the vaccine is not longer being produced because it is unsafe–but it was not recalled, and as long as they still had a supply of it, it was still being distributed. This is criminal behavior.

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

     Hi 441019,

    This is correct. Please see source #2.

  • Argus

    Because children that have not been vaccinated would be highly likely to catch whatever the outbreak is of, and some of them would become severely ill or die. It is not always a matter of “get it, recuperate, and go back.”

    If some parents won’t protect their children, school officials are going to do what they can to at least limit their exposure.

  • 441019

     Thanks. It didn’t occur to me to look at your list of references.

  • SoundsBogus

    Hey, somebody (a “Facebook partner”) flagged this as abusive. I clicked on this link and got a “Security Warning”. wtf? This is important for parents to know.

  • Kielty6216

    Screw you!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jessicalyn.zellers Jessica-lyn Zellers

     idiots.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=788678221 Tonya Maa

    These adverse reactions are very similar to what babies experience before they’re alleged victims of Shaken Baby Syndrome.  Interesting how vaccines are never investigated in circumstances like that.  SIDS isn’t the only death that just happens to occur around the ages of vaccines.

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    The assumption being made by Argus is that vaccines give immunity. The question to have Argus answer is, “How is immunity proved?”

    He makes many assumptions.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mopar28m Lori Harvey

    They don’t tell people who are getting the flu shot that they are receiving 25 mcg of mercury per shot unless they ask. 

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    No problem! :) There is a lot of information! :)

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    Tonya,

    As I’m sure you are well aware, vaccines are the “Sacred Cow” (no pun intended) of medicine. To accuse them of any harm is to strike at the heart of allopathic medicine. So be it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rbonan1 Robert Bonan

    I have come to the conclusion that the ultimate objective of vaccines is to contaminate the DNA of humanity. When you look at the many vaccine given form birth to 6 years of age loaded with Viruses, Chemicals and pathogens how can it Not alter a child’s DNA? Dr Russell Blaylock has also validated that generic material of vaccines can also be past on from generation to generation. I did a blog post called ( God Vaccines Trashing human DNA )
    http://wp.me/p1Crrw-fs Bottom line what we are fighting for is to protect the purity and integrity of the heritage of the DNA that carries your families intelligence. When a child is given the full Monty of all these shots that child’s DNA will never be the same and the DNA heritage of that family line no longer exist.  Now they want to use Dog Cell in place of Chick Ambryo Can you say Hybrid Human?

  • Karen

    Why, because they believe what they hear over and over again without researching the facts for themselves.  You rarely every hear this side of the vaccine industry in the public arena.  Just watch for yourself and see the new commercial to get your flu shot at Walgreens.  See if there is anything on that commercial that would sway you from rushing out to get your shot. 

  • George

    Argus, Love it! Kielty6216 do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

  • John Fryer

    Hi Argus 

    Perhaps you can tell a few truths about who you are and why a Sanofi document recording deaths to little children is not disturbing news to you.Harry Clark vaccinated with DTP of some sort at 4.30pm and dead at 10.30pm puts this as very disturbing for Mr and Mrs Clark and especially as rather than blame the vaccine they blamed the parents and gave mom double life in prison.There are a million other examples like this but too many for here.

  • John Fryer

    In France the publicity has come through the post for FREE flu vaccines starting on the 22nd Sep. A photo shows the dad retired with his mom very much older of course, his daughter and son in law and their little child with the obvious what a BAR STEWARD you are if you dont get vaccinated to stop all these people dying from the flu.

    Nothing there about the 1 in 15 chance you will get of being dead yourself withing one year of this vaccine.

    Nothing about the TERATOGENIC, MUTAGENIC, CARCINOGENIC thiomerosal in some brands or the SQUALENE linked to health issues or the ALUMINIUM implicated in muscle pains through to breast cancers etc etc etc.

    Most people of course get rid of all this insult of chemicals with a good immune system but those that get MS, Guillain Barre syndrome or drop dead probably never put the connections together, especially the latter.

    A nurse gave a flu shot to a healthy man and just coincidentally read his OBITUARY next day and she did put this in the VAERS data bank.

  • John Fryer

    Gardasil is embarrassing for Merck as girls are dying and getting ill but boys mysteriously seem JUST FINE. But when the pressure gets to work and boys get the shot we can rest happy that there is no longer any health differences between the sexes and all is JUST FINE.

    I LIE of course. Merck is not embarrassed at al by very EMBARRASSING gardasil data. A 2 000 internet book on ADVERSE gardasil effects was at last sight 3 000 pages and RISING RAPIDLY.

  • John Fryer

    Gardasil is embarrassing for Merck as girls are dying and getting ill but boys mysteriously seem JUST FINE. But when the pressure gets to work and boys get the shot we can rest happy that there is no longer any health differences between the sexes and all is JUST FINE.

    I LIE of course. Merck is not embarrassed at al by very EMBARRASSING gardasil data. A 2 000 internet book on ADVERSE gardasil effects was at last sight 3 000 pages and RISING RAPIDLY.

  • Nancy

    Thanks for the comments, everyone. Jeffry, I read an article at publichealthalert.org about a patented strain of bartonella being used as a vaccine adjuvant. Have you heard anything about this?? I didn’t sleep that night.

  • George

    You have reliable source for that 1 in 15 figure or are you just making it up as you go?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alistair-MacKinnon/1195328853 Alistair MacKinnon

    Well George.. if you wish to debunk the effectiveness and efficacy of flu vaccines on the elderly  I suggest you start here: 
    Impact of influenza vaccine on Seasonal Mortality in the US elderly population.  Lone Simonsen, PhD; Thomas A. Reichert, MD, PhD; Cecile Viboud, PhD; William C. Blackwelder, PhD; Robert J. Taylor, PhD; Mark A. Miller, MD Archives of Internal Medicine 2005; 165:265-27Then come back and give us an informed opinion

  • http://www.soundmama.org/ Kiera

    Thank you for this very informative post. People need to know this information. 

  • Mo

    As a parent, I’m scared more than ever for the safety of my kids.  I have a four & three years old boys and I’m so confused about what and what not to give. Can you help

  • Silver

    Great report Jeffry!

    Vaccines Did Not Save Us – 2 Centuries of Official Statistics
    http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/

    “Can “vaccinatable” diseases “return”
    despite vaccination?  Yes.  If you are too poorly nourished your body
    is likely to lack essential nutrients needed to maintain its immune
    system sufficiently to withstand disease.  This will happen regardless
    of how many vaccinations you have had.  This was experienced in Eastern
    Europe following the collapse of the old Soviet Bloc and the economic
    chaos which ensued, leaving many in great poverty.

    For the same reason vaccines do not
    “work” and “save” lives in impoverished African and other third world
    economies.  The majority of third world child deaths still occur despite
    vaccination.  These children need proper food, clean water to drink and
    wash in and sanitation.  —We give them vaccines instead.

    These third world children die because we have vaccines.  In the 21st Century, despite all the claims made about modern science, we have no effective treatments for common basic childhood diseases.”

  • Argus

    ” Is that the best you can do?”
    That might work as a retort if you had actually addressed the three points that I raised with answers that backed up the premise of your article.
     
    But you didn’t even try.
     
    So let’s go again.

    1. You report that two websites no longer display the package insert for a product that was discontinued and hasn’t been available for over a year. True enough, but how do you justify sensationally reporting this as “disturbing”?

    2. VAERS reports are public information, so what you are pointing to has been and continues to be public information. And the package insert you are concerned about that lists these reported adverse events has been out there since 2005.  How is that a smoking gun?  After seven years, I think the gun is all rusted up.

    3. The rest of your article is a rant about that tired old topic, thimerosal.  I’m sure you are well aware that some childhood vaccines have never contained this preservative, and that it has not been used in the others since about 2001. What does this have to do with Tripedia, or for that matter, any of today’s childhood vaccines?

    Answers, please, Jeffry.

  • Argus

    Try looking a little harder – the package insert is still available on-line.
    And your “deduction” is completely wrong. It was not discontinued for being unsafe.
    If it was, then there would not only have been an announcement (which could easily be found) and all remaining stocks would have been withdrawn, not left in the distribution system to be used up.
    I’m sure Jeffry knows this – but prefers to allow you to believe the “untruth”.

  • Spearce

     
    A fake Security Alert says, “The link you are trying to visit has been
    classified as potentially abusive by a Facebook partner. To learn
    more about staying safe on the internet, visit Facebook’s Security
    Page. Please also read the Wikipedia articles on malware and
    phishing.” People who love vaccines have made it do this.
    Recently, I went to Web of Trust, which issued this alert, and I
    ranked VacTruth and other sites very highly (as high as possible) so
    that we who know the truth will outweigh the pro-vaccinators. I’m
    thinking a lot of folks who try to go to this article, at least from Facebook, will see that fake Security Alert and then will chicken out.
    Everyone should go to Web of Trust and rank VacTruth highly. The
    following link is the article that showed me where to go to do that.
    Look for the subtitle called “Help Vactruth,com” which
    isn’t far from the top of the article here:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/037198_Natural_News_grassroots_alternative_health.html

  • Spearce

     
    The fake Security Alert says, “The link you are trying to visit has been
    classified as potentially abusive by a Facebook partner. To learn
    more about staying safe on the internet, visit Facebook’s Security
    Page. Please also read the Wikipedia articles on malware and
    phishing.” People who love vaccines have made it do this.
    Recently, I went to Web of Trust, which issued this alert, and I
    ranked VacTruth and other sites very highly (as high as possible) so
    that we who know the truth will outweigh the pro-vaccinators. I imagine a lot of people will chicken out when they read that fake Security Alert and won’t go ahead and go to the article, at least from Facebook.
    Everyone should go to Web of Trust and rank VacTruth highly. The
    following link is the article that showed me where to go to do that.
    Look for the subtitle called “Help Vactruth,com” which
    isn’t far from the top of the article here:
    http://www.naturalnews.com/037198_Natural_News_grassroots_alternative_health.html

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    If vaccines do not cause autism, explain it:

    “Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS [Sudden Infant Death Syndrome], anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea.”

    Why even mention it?
    Quite simply, the rest of the article is supporting information you dismiss as irrelevant. Just because you tire of a topic doesn’t mean it is any less important or irrelevant.

    How do you continue to avoid answering your relationship to vaccines?

    Answers, please.

  • anonymous

     So we all need to strike…if they are causing Autism like the MMR vaccine did in my son and SIDS in other kids….aren’t we supposed to strike at the heart of allopathic medicine for our kids? After my son developed Autism I said no more. Now our religious beliefs protect us from having to keep poisoning my son.

  • Spearce

    I suggest you watch Dr. Sherri Tenpenny’s DVDs on vaccines. Dr. Russell Blaylock also has great information that will show you why vaccines are too dangerous to use.

  • anonymous

    I believe it is population control similar to what Monsanto is doing to our food supply. Hate to be an alarmist, conspiracy theorist but if the shoe fits. Think about the execs from Monsanto and Big Pharma who have been appointed to sit on the FDA and other regulatory boards in the US that are supposed to protect the safety of us all but instead push hidden agendas and greed. These kind of realities brought me to the hard decision to not bring another child into this sick world. With my daughter having died from Pertussis at 1 month old I was the first person out there urging people to go get vaccinated. Then my poor son goes over the cliff and into Autism after getting so sick after the MMR vaccine. DON”T TELL ME VACCINES ARE SAFE DAMNIT!!  Guess i was screwed either way with or without vaccines. Nobody could ever understand or relate to what I would give if I could only go back and refuse that MMR vaccine. Now my son who is an only child will be left to fend for himself with no brothers or sisters or close family member after his father and I die…Thanks a lot Big Pharma for causing me to live in constant fear for my son’s future once we are gone. I hope the few dollars of profit you received for disabling my child was worth it.

  • Johnny

    Truly, how many times am I going to be asked if I want my flu shot? 4 times in less than a day. The last receptionist to ask me if I wanted one, I told her I already had 3 this week, but would get another one if she thought it would help. Truly…she said she’d have to ask someone…not only that, but she didn’t have any list of what was in the vaccination…. .You go, Jeffry….don’t you ever back down from your mission. I support you 100 per cent!

  • Argus

    Well there you have it, folks.  Once again Jeffry tries to change the topic to avoid responding to questions about the article that HE wrote.
    So I will supply the answers for him:

    1. There is nothing disturbing about these two websites removing information that is no longer current from their pages. These sites are not even primary sources for the So the sensationalist language about this is . . . just a lie.

    2. The information in this package insert about adverse events that have been reported by the public has been out there for years.  And these reports are not verified – they are nothing more than reports that have been made to VAERS,  No smoking gun here . . . so that representation is just a lie.

    3. The thimerosal information isn’t even relevant to the topic of the article.  Trying to fool the uninformed into being concerned about it . . . another form of lying.

    “VACTRUTH – BIG LIES BUILT ON SMALL TRUTHS”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    This should be more than enough information and includes a lot of real and unbiased vaccine causation of harm science. The stuff that the CDC refuses to acknowledge as existing, nor to do any further and larger scale studies on. We have all been mislead and lied to as to the safety and effectiveness of vaccines, as a fact. The claims of vaccine derived herd immunity is as well have no basis scientific fact, and the whole said concept has been a complete fraud. Every vaccine on the CDC schedule; more harm than good.

    http://vacfacts.info 

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    Having a philosophical stance of, “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain”, is helpful in this situation, isn’t it?

    The point you keep avoiding is autism and SIDS are listed in the vaccine insert. Why do you keep glossing over this fact?

    It’s news and noteworthy – and it’s not going away.

  • Silver

    Thanks for your input Argus.

    But I take exception to you using loaded terms like “just a lie” or “rant about that tired old topic, thimerosal”.
    You can get your points across without attacking the writer or calling readers of the article “uninformed” or “fooled”.

    I am sure most people that are subscribed to this site are adults and are well read on many of the subjects written about here and can make conclusions themselves.

    I personally welcome debate, discussion and people like yourself pointing out mistakes or giving alternative points of view for the reason that I just want the truth about these subjects as probably most others do.

    Proclaiming “sensationally” – “VACTRUTH – BIG LIES BUILT ON SMALL TRUTHS” makes it seem like you have an agenda or a big chip on your shoulder.

    Also seems strange that users like Kielty6216 writing
    “Screw you!!!”
    seems very out of character to people that have been posting on this site or genuinly searching for answers to these subjects.

    Are George and Kielty6216 associated with you Argus?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    There is nothing in the article statements, that is a lie,
    Argus. Just because you simply do not like the suggested claims made, and the
    direction they go; as well does not make it a lie.

     

    Its actually worse than that, when you as well read and
    comprehend what is in that product insert, in reading the sections titled,
    CONTRAINDICATIONS and WARNINGS and Additional Adverse Reactions.They are
    clearly talking about in those sections, causation of neurological and brain
    damage and more. Have you ever read the book, A Shot in the Dark, by Harris
    Coulter, and Barbara Loe Fisher; regarding case histories of clearly vaccine
    caused seizure disorders and as well many infant deaths due to the original DPT
    vaccine? Deaths, that of course the doctors and coroners wrote off to any other
    causation, but the vaccine.

     

    As to the safety profile of Tripedia verses the older
    version DTP; all that is actually pointed to is the somewhat less reactivity of
    the DTaP (Tripedia) vaccine.

     

    A Shot in the Dark: Why the P in the Dpt Vaccination May Be
    Hazardous to Your Child’s Health

    http://books.google.com/books/about/A_Shot_in_the_Dark.html?id=IjyuHR3GTdgC

     

    http://vactruth.com/vaccine-books/

     

    Tripedia-Ingredients

     

    Formaldehyde, Gelatin, Polysorbate 80, Thimerosal, Pertussis
    toxin, Filamentous hemagglutinin (FHA), Stopper vial may contain dry latex
    rubber, Tetanus, Aluminum potassium sulfate.

     

    http://www.novaccine.com/specific-vaccines/vaccine.asp?v_id=10

     

    I was wondering Argus, if you are concerned at all about the
    unproven safety profile of aluminum vaccine adjuvants? Why has the CDC as a
    fact done no safety testing of aluminum adjuvants? Did you known that the FDA
    gave aluminum in general a rating of GRAS, (generally regarded as safe) in
    1929; and even though aluminum in the form of, aluminum hydroxide, aluminum
    phosphate, and aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate, (now in Gardasil); have been
    used in vaccines for around 80 years? However, no safety data has ever been
    available anywhere. The new designer DNA adjuvants and the ASO4 novel adjuvant,
    now in the Cervarix HPV vaccine; those adjuvants are just as unknown as to what
    harm they actually actually may be doing in the human body.

     

    The CDC has clearly admitted to their lack of safety data in
    their own documents and stated as well the need and request for additional
    aluminum adjuvant safety data; however they ignore the bulwark of already
    existing data, and as well existing scientific studies showing the harm of
    aluminum and aluminum adjuvants. In fact some of those studies show directly
    that aluminum adjuvants can cause over activation of the brains microglia and
    resulting chronic inflammation of the brain from repeat, multiple vaccines. In
    fact many studies in Pubmed directly state that the mechanism of action is
    poorly understood, one thing that is known is that aluminum adjuvants produce
    an inflammatory response in the body, thus causing the immune system to go on
    high alert in recognition of a killed/ attenuated vaccine antigen, that it
    likely otherwise would have had a poor response to. 

     

    Look up (google) immuno-inflammatory diseases, or the
    immuno-inflammatory cascade; Argus. That might give you some more clues. In
    fact some of the facilities having done studies and found that said
    inflammation in the brains of those with ASD; have not figured out nor even
    suggested a causation, so they are referring to it as part of something they
    call dysregulation syndromes. No, they are not even thinking in the direction
    of vaccines, not even knowing and yet oblivious to what they have really found
    what they have really found. Yet other studies at the same time have clearly
    realized the vaccination link and direct mechanism of harm.

     

    You can read some of those said studies, here.

     

    http://www.vacfacts.info/index.html

     

    The Marvellous Health of Unvaccinated Children

    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2010/06/25/the-marvellous-health-of-unvaccinated-children

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    Please reread the article. The information you speak of is noted. Thanks.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    Argus, I couldn’t find that Tripedia package insert on the Sanofi-Pasteur website either. Maybe you want to link to it; being you said it is there? 441019 did not state it was not available online. The CDC does link it the insert, to the FDA site. Here is newly promoted site by Sanofi-Pasteur; I didn’t find the insert there either. All i found was just a bunch of hooee, about how great vaccines are. Sure smells like a cover-up, to me???

    Here is an article you should read Argus. And you can easily verify that said  787 DTaP reported deaths, VAERS data; because I just did. A known only 1 to 10% reporting factor, exists at VAERS, Argus. Can you do the math?

    New phony vaccine safety website from Sanofi-Pasteur, whose DTaP package insert lists sudden infant death syndrome and autism as vaccine adverse events

    This FDA-filed information is NOT mentioned on Sanofi’s new phony-baloney vaccine safety website. They insist every death and autistic child from Tripedia is a coincidence, like lightning striking the same place 50,439 times (that is the number of DTaP vaccine adverse reactions reports filed with the FDA, including 787 deaths).

    http://therefusers.com/refusers-newsroom/new-phony-vaccine-safety-website-from-sanofi-pasteur-whose-dtap-package-insert-lists-sudden-infant-death-syndrome-and-autism-as-vaccine-adverse-events/

    Here is some more excellent educational reading material for you, Argus.

    Vaccine Epidemic: How Corporate Greed, Biased Science, and Coercive Government Threaten Our Human Rights, Our Health, and Our Children

    http://therefusers.com/about/vaccine-epidemic-how-corporate-greed-biased-science-and-coercive-government-threaten-our-human-rights-our-health-and-our-children/

    Vaccine Epidemic
    http://vaccineepidemic.com/

    http://www.amazon.com/Vaccine-Epidemic-Corporate-Coercive-Government/dp/1616082720

  • Jim Bob

    Mea Culpa. But why do you dismiss the possibility that there is no causal relationship?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    50,439 times, that is the number of DTaP vaccine adverse reactions reports were filed with the FDA, including 787 deaths. With a known only 1 to 10% reporting factor to VAERS. Should that matter to you, Jim Bob? 

    Check it out yourself?

    http://medalerts.org/vaersdb/index.php

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    George… maybe you should ask someone who has worked for a length of time in a nursing home, how many elderly die shortly after they get the flu vaccine? There are said noticeably and significantly more deaths then, than at any other time. I have not ever had a flu vaccine, and have not had the flu in 20 years. Vitamin D and C.

    Vitamin D Council recommended amountsBased on the body’s indicated daily vitamin D usage, Vitamin D Council recommends the following amounts of supplemental vitamin D3 per day in the absence of proper sun exposure. Due to the variable response discussed above, these are only estimated amounts.

    Healthy children under the age of 1 years – 1,000 IU.
    Healthy children over the age of 1 years – 1,000 IU per every 25 lbs of body weight.
    Healthy adults and adolescents – at least 5,000 IU.
    Pregnant and lactating mothers – at least 6,000 IU.

    http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/how-to-get-your-vitamin-d/vitamin-d-supplementation/

    VITAMIN C AND SEVERE INFLUENZA: A CASE REPORT
    http://www.tomlevymd.com/health_ebytes/issue_7.html

    Vitamin C, Infectious Diseases, and Toxins: Curing the Incurable, by Thomas E. Levy, M.D., J.D.
    http://www.doctoryourself.com/levy.html

    Vaccines and Brain Inflammation,  by Harold E Buttram, MD and Catherine J Frompovich
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2011/06/01/vaccines-and-brain-inflammation/

    And why would anyone in their right mind want to subject themselves to a flu shot with 25 mcg of thimerosal content, (mercury); and then think that was going to keep them healthy?

    Here are the other ingredients in flu shots.
    http://www.novaccine.com/specific-vaccines/vaccine.asp?v_id=16

    NO THANK YOU!

  • Nancy

    The problem is….there are still just as many troubling ingredients in vaccines. I think aluminum is as bad as thimerosal. Dr. Iyoub has done some videos on that. The bottom line……kids don’t need vacs to be healthy. That’s what we have an immune system for!! It’s all been a huge lie from day 1, imo.

  • Nancy

    Don’t be scared, Mo. That’s what they count on. Do your homework, eat healthy (sugar cuts immunity), study homeopathics. Great kits are available with rememdies for everything you can think of. Boiron is a good brand. Kingbio.com also has great remedies and they are 100% safe, even for babies. This is what our daughter does for her kids, ages 10 and 8. They are not vaccinated. They have Lyme, so it is important to keep these vaccine toxins out of their bodies.  

  • Jim Bob

    Lowell,

    It does matter. You are clearly a person who does his research. But as someone who does his research, you should be able to admit the extreme limitations of VAERS. Anyone can make a report on VAERS which means the data is unverified. I believe someone made a false report on VAERS that the flu vaccine turned him into the hulk. The fact that you would continue to use the information from VAERS as factual shows improper research methodology. Moreover, claiming that the CDC and FDA are part of a conspiracy and falsifying information, you shouldn’t be using their data to support your claims. It creates complications with your underlying premise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    Argus…how many of them are actually at risk of becoming severely ill or dying from chicken pox? Or how many just born infants are at risk of acquiring that fear mongered about hepatitis B? Don’t bother tell me any of the typical wild stories about some hep B infected kids in the day cares, being likely to run around biting other kids and infecting them, either.

    Found 365 events where Vaccine is VARCEL and the Patient was Disabled

    Found 111 events where Vaccine is VARCEL and the Patient Died

    Found 2093 events where Vaccine is HEP and Patient was Disabled

    Found 927 events where Vaccine is HEP and the Patient Died 

    Those hep B reports as well do NOT include the combination vaccines; so those are likely to be infants.

    http://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php 

    Don’t forget the known only 1 to 10% reporting to VAERS, factor!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    VAERS reports: found 870 events where Vaccine is FLU and Patient Died  

    Found 1348 events where Vaccine is FLU and Patient Did Not Die and Disabled

    Found 1304 events where Vaccine is FLU and Life Threatening and Patient Did Not Die and Not Disabled

    http://medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php

    VAERS, with a known only 1 to 10% reporting factor.

    Is that acceptable collateral damage, do you think? I don’t.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    No, you have it all wrong and backwards, Bob; and that is the typical and standardized one size fits all reply you people are all conditioned to make. 

    I have never stated that VAERS is conclusive proof and verification of causation. Anyone with any common sense knows that, as VAERS of course is simply a reporting system, in which reports can be made by anyone; including the medical so called profession. No one has ever said that those reports across the board, were all proof of causation. By the same means, the numbers of those reports are certainly significant; and unfortunately the FDA nor the CDC take them near seriously enough. Look at Gardasil as well; no common link found. Are you kidding me; there are very common links all over the place. They refuse to admit it, because in light of the truth movement they know is there, they simply can not afford to let anything be admitted to.

    Back to your comments.

    Given the fact that those reports represent a known only 1 to 10% reporting factor, makes the seriousness of those reports, even more obvious. You can do the math, right? 

    MOREOVER, you are incorrect, again; in that VAERS is not the CDC and FDA’s data; it is the public’s data, recorded by the public. The public’s data, along side the data forwarded by the all to reluctant to report anything at all, medical field. I have never stated that the CDC/FDA have conspired to conceal nor falsify any of that VAERS data. Unless you have some information on that, I don’t have? 

    Creates complications and undermines premise? Really? How is that???

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    @cb0f5da9133f39897b6abf51deb3871b:disqus To that I ask: Why dismiss vaccine-induced autism?

    We’re told by the medical establishment there is NO WAY vaccines cause autism. To the point of the article: why are these words ending up in a vaccine product insert at all?

  • Jim Bob

    To Jeffry,

    After reading the overabundant scientific peer-review information on vaccines, it is in my opinion (and the majority of the scientific community) that there is no link between vaccines and autism. That is why I dismiss so called vaccine-induced autism.

    To your second point, the insert clearly states why it was there. 1) Because x (I don’t know the number) amount of people reported it happened and 2) autism is a serious condition. Sounds like full disclosure with no cover up to me.

    To Lowell,

    So you admit that VAERS is useless for the purpose of drawing conclusions yet you draw conclusions from it. This entire article has written about a cover-up created by the FDA and CDC. Yet you trust the data that they manage.

    Where are these links that you have found that are apparently all over the place. I have yet to see these.

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    @cb0f5da9133f39897b6abf51deb3871b:disqus and the piece you are leaving out is… the condition [autism, SIDS, etc.] was the result of…?

  • Txcouple5122426

    So why do they discontinue a product…for no reason? That makes less sense to me than this articles the time and money invested into a vaccine is a lot… And to create one in such a rush for no reason I think not

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    Jim Bob….try and use just a little honesty; I did not state that VAERS was useless for the purpose of drawing conclusions; and just the opposite it true. That is your obvious in denial conclusion, not mine. Just because the FDA and CDC have failed to do their job and and through their own massive intellectual dishonesty, refused to find a single thing to be concerned about regarding vaccines, ever; does not negate what those reports show. I asked you as well if you could do the math; and apparently you couldn’t. Wake up, and get just a bit more honest. The VAERS data as well without any question does support the claims in this article.The issue is that so many vaccines are given, that those reports can not at times pin it down to one single vaccine. 

    In regard to your claim that all the overabundant scientific peer reviewed information on vaccines, and etc; how many vaccines did those mostly CDC funded epidemiological studies look at? The answer is one, the MMR vaccine. How many vaccine ingredients did those said studies look at? The answer is one, thimerosal. And you are going to tell me in with any honesty, that those said studies were all they ever needed to look at regarding vaccines? And not only in regard to ASD; but regarding neurological and immunological harm, brain damage; diabetes, asthma, ADHD, cancer; and what else could I more than suggest. 

    Take a look at some of the real studies I have collected, regarding the physiological understanding of exactly what I am stating. Ask yourself Jim Bob; why the CDC has not addressed any of that? It is a joke, and vaccines have always been a complete joke; and nothing more than a sacred cow of so called modern medicine that has always from day one done more harm than good. And look at the state of health of America and America’s children. It is pathetic. And why do we always find the un-vaccinated children so healthy; and never needing a doctor for anything but perhaps a fall from a swing set? Look at the doctors offices with all the vaccinated children in them? Not true? It is true. Sure is a money make though, isn’t it; all the way around; no actual cures for anything; and never will be. They won’t have it, unless it comes from a patentable high dollar drug, and you can not across the board find cures, with the use of only chemical drugs.

    Is real cellular nutrition and detoxification factors important to human health, Jim Bob?  Or are you and the general public simply deficient in chemical drugs and potentially contaminated vaccines with every chemical from A to Z? Have you studied anything at all,regarding naturopathic health care? Not likely.

    If all the science of big pharma and if all the medical protocols they have are so awesome, then why does that system remain to be a leading cause of death in America; if not the leading cause of death? Would that surprise you to actually read studies like that? Here they are. 

    Death by Medicine
    http://www.vacfacts.info/death-by-medicine.html 

    The ethics of pharma and all of their science is just awesome, isn’t it? So awesome that every major pharmaceutical company has received multi-million dollar penalties from the DOJ for fraud; and then it is just onto business as usual; and no one goes to jail. Merck as well
    currently being sued by their own scientists, for years of illegally spiking their mumps portion of the MMR vaccine, to raise its appearance of effectiveness; faked and spiked with animal antibodies. And these are the people we trust to provide safe vaccines that are injected into millions of children? They clearly could care less about any safety, and that is why sites like vactruth are necessary.  

    And you Jim Bob, want to argue the Merck made vaccine safety of Gardasil, with me? If you think those said links and the all to common and obvious links to Gardasil and the harm done, are not there; you intentionally are not looking. You have a choice to follow the truth, or stay in denial; and that is all your choice, Jim Bob. It is simply your choice to separate the truth from the fiction; or to choose not to. I am not here to educate the intentionally uneducated, nor the refusing to be educated. 

    You can start here!

    http://vacfacts.info

  • John Fryer

    Hi George

    The statistics on vaccines are frightening when you study them for more than a decade and often as you seem to think the facts are almost unbelievable.

    My own take today is that while some vaccines are ESSENTIAL the dangers from todays increasing vaccine schedule is not almost unbelievable but totally unbelievable.

    Resting on the basis that people think their own government or their own doctor would NEVER do anything to HURT them.

    Examine the history of politics and medicine and you will see that when it becomes personal you need to trust your own instinct and NEVER that of those who TAX you or make a fortune from your sickness or become bankrupt if they keep you well.

    I will endeavour to find that statistic for the flu vaccine but here is another you may know of already?

    If you skip the vaccine every year you have a 2 per cent chance of getting the flu.

    Take the vaccine and you reduce the risk to 1.5 per cent chance of getting the flu.

    And of course after five years your risk of Alzheimer Disease from multiple flu vaccines rises TENFOLD.

    Personally I say no and the last dozen or so flu bouts cure themesleves in a fortnight and preferably to 14 days if I were to take medications.

    I exaggerate as I have never had one days sickness EVER while working and am now many years into retirement. 

    Needless to say if the doctors or hospitals relied on me for business they would have gone bust 60 years ago

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    Jim Bob

    Mea Culpa. But why do you dismiss the possibility that there is no causal relationship?

    ————————

    I dismiss it as well because so many children have now recovered in part and/or in whole from ASD; due to parents that carefully researched biomedical treatment. That number is growing as parents search for the needed answers. A child like this one, Caroline.

    Regarding Caroline
    http://regardingcaroline.com/ 

    Meet The Generation Of Children We Refuse To Lose… | The Thinking Moms’ Revolution
    http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/meet-the-generation-of-children-we-refuse-to-lose/ 

    Advances in Research
    http://www.autism.com/index.php//advocacy_research_1 

    Recoveries
    http://www.stankurtz.com/ 

    And exactly what are they doing to accomplish that? They are detoxing the vaccines and providing the the necessary means, supplements, and protocols to heal the damage. The amazing self healing human body; given the right means. How could it NOT be the vaccines, when this is possible, Jim Bob? It clearly wouldn’t be possible.

    And what does the medical side offer for any hope? More pharmaceutical products, drugs. And no real hope. The medical circles even chastise parents fro even considering this option, even berating the that it is all dangerous and unproven. They have not even examined the evidence of the proof, nor the safety of the protocols. You are to assume they know, but they don’t know; and they don’t want to know. To step outside the box, think for themselves, and consider another option than what is only allowed in their standard of care, as well risks ridicule or even worse from their medical employer, or even worse being brought up buy the medical board. Its a no win; any way you look at it. This is simply how that allopathic medical mafia works; control of all, with NO real compassion. Think its not true; the evidence shows clearly that it is true. So, Jim Bob..what do you think of ..THAT?

  • John Fryer

    Hi George

    No comments but look at this

    http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-08/ats-fsd082708.php 

    Talks of reduced risk of death after vaccine for the flu;

    But also talks of figures even higher than 1 in 15 if my maths is correct.

  • Argus

    Who said there was no reason?
    It was replaced by newer products.
    What rush are you talking about?

  • Argus

    With all your great research skills, Lowell, you can’t find it?

    Type “Tripedia package insert” into your favorite search engine and all will be revealed.

  • http://twitter.com/nitemareglitch Russell

    Yeah, won’t it be awesome when people start getting Polio again. Lets make it happen!

  • Silver

    In most (if not all cases) these miracle
    vaccinations that “erradicated” these terrible diseases were only
    introduced AFTER a major fall in the death rate due to the disease.

    Polio deaths were almost nonexistant BEFORE the vaccine was introduced-
    and there was a minor rise in deaths after the introduction. Several
    years after the definintion of polio was changed and all deaths were
    blaimed on other diseases…

    “Dr. Thomas Francis did not mention in his key evaluation of
    the 1954 Salk field trials that those who contracted polio after their first innoculation
    and before their second inoculation were placed in the “not-inoculated” list.’ (Maurice B. Bayly, The Story Of The Salk Anti-poliomyelitis
    Vaccine, 1956).
     
    Interesting links on this website.
    http://www.whale.to/vaccine/polio1.html

  • Silver

     “Polio has not been eradicated by vaccination, it is lurking behind a
    redefinition and new diagnostic names like viral or aseptic meningitis…….According to
    one of the 1997 issues of the MMWR, there are some 30,000 to 50,000 cases of viral
    meningitis per year in the United States alone.  That’s where all those 30,000 –
    50,000 cases of polio disappeared after the introduction of mass vaccination”—Viera Scheibner PHD

  • Jim

    To Jeffry,

    At this time, the causes for the majority of cases of autism are still unknown. However, recent discoveries have linked genetic conditions being the leading cause of autism. This also helps to explain why autism is more prevalent in boys. Moreoever, I’m sure you also found the research showing that the age of the father is a factor in the incidence of autism as well as weight of the mother. While genetic causes remain at the forefront of autism research, we still have folks like people on this website raising the false link between autism and vaccines forcing the scientific community to divert research funds into constantly disproving this theory instead of being able to push forward and find the real causes.

    As for SIDS, causes remain unknown. Again, if you look at all the peer-reviewed research, you will also recognize that infants who are immunized are less likely to die from SIDS then those who are not immunized. There are population studies out there confirming this.

  • Jim

    To Jeffry,

    At this time, the causes for the majority of cases of autism are still unknown. However, recent discoveries have linked genetic conditions being the leading cause of autism. This also helps to explain why autism is more prevalent in boys. Moreoever, I’m sure you also found the research showing that the age of the father is a factor in the incidence of autism as well as weight of the mother. While genetic causes remain at the forefront of autism research, we still have folks like people on this website raising the false link between autism and vaccines forcing the scientific community to divert research funds into constantly disproving this theory instead of being able to push forward and find the real causes.

    As for SIDS, causes remain unknown. Again, if you look at all the peer-reviewed research, you will also recognize that infants who are immunized are less likely to die from SIDS then those who are not immunized. There are population studies out there confirming this.

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    I respectfully disagree with your assessment, Jim Bob.

    Of course there will be a “genetic condition” or predisposition regarding autism because we’re not all the same genetically, are we?

    But what you fail to do is define autism. “The scientific community” as you stated, likes to say autism is “social disorder” as defined by the DSM-IV.

    Show me the science behind it – because all you are giving me are platitudes.

    Maybe “the scientific community” you speak of should be looking at science-based tests looking at the immune system of these children.

    And, by the way, do you care to disclose your relationship to vaccines and what your background is? I want to know your bias.

    Thanks.

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    I respectfully disagree with your assessment, Jim Bob.

    Of course there will be a “genetic condition” or predisposition regarding autism because we’re not all the same genetically, are we?

    But what you fail to do is define autism. “The scientific community” as you stated, likes to say autism is “social disorder” as defined by the DSM-IV.

    Show me the science behind it – because all you are giving me are platitudes.

    Maybe “the scientific community” you speak of should be looking at science-based tests looking at the immune system of these children.

    And, by the way, do you care to disclose your relationship to vaccines and what your background is? I want to know your bias.

    Thanks.

  • Jim

    To Lowell,

    I’m sorry but those treatments still remain unproven at this time. I really don’t have anything more to say about it. And again, you could also use a little bit of honesty when trying to use sites that as evidence. Poor sample sizes (usually 1), no control for outside factors, zero scientific design etc. Those sites might as well be blogs or facebooks pages with someones story which doesn’t equate to scientific evidence or proof.

    You also seem to have issues with CDC funded studies which are only a fraction of the population studies available. I found 5 CDC studies and close to 30 other population studies which show no correlation between MMR and autism.

    Perhaps you can shed light on the causal mechanism? What is it about vaccines that cause autism? If I hear mercury, thimerosol or aluminum, I might vomit because of how many studies disprove this link. But ignore my health concerns because this debate that we are having is constructive and important.

  • Jim

    To Lowell,

    I’m sorry but those treatments still remain unproven at this time. I really don’t have anything more to say about it. And again, you could also use a little bit of honesty when trying to use sites that as evidence. Poor sample sizes (usually 1), no control for outside factors, zero scientific design etc. Those sites might as well be blogs or facebooks pages with someones story which doesn’t equate to scientific evidence or proof.

    You also seem to have issues with CDC funded studies which are only a fraction of the population studies available. I found 5 CDC studies and close to 30 other population studies which show no correlation between MMR and autism.

    Perhaps you can shed light on the causal mechanism? What is it about vaccines that cause autism? If I hear mercury, thimerosol or aluminum, I might vomit because of how many studies disprove this link. But ignore my health concerns because this debate that we are having is constructive and important.

  • Jim

    First off, I actually have no links to vaccines. Unless you count the fact that I’m fully vaccinated as well my daughter. I work at university.

    I have to disagree with your assessment. The scientific and medical community does not think ASD is entirely a social disorder as there are biological diferences between a normal brain and that of an autistic person. Perhaps you are confusing this with diagnostic criteria which is primarily based on social interaction.

    Can you let me know what it is about the immune systems that causes autism when vaccines are adminstered?

    Moreover, your article claims a cover-up of the fact that thimerosal causes autism and was quietly removed to avoid liability. Since it has been removed we should have seen a decrease in the number of ASD diagnoses. This has not been the case. Do you have an explanation for that?

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    Thimerosal was not “taken out” of the vaccines – it was reduced. Please see the last reference of the article. The verbiage states [see the asterisks], “This product should be considered equivalent to thimerosal‐free products. This vaccine may contain trace amounts (<0.3 mcg) of mercury left after post production thimerosal removal; these amounts have no biological effect."

    And, by the way, thimerosal is in flu vaccines administered to pregnant women.

  • Jim

    Ok. So then the mercurial compound in vaccines was reduced to almost nothing. Shouldn’t we still be seeing a drop in autism diagnoses?

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    Wait a minute here. You just said it wasn’t in the vaccines.

  • Jim

    I’m just trying to follow your argument to a logical conclusion. You agreed that they reduced the amount of mercurial compound to almost nothing. Shouldn’t we have seen a corresponding drop in autism diagnoses if thimerasol was the culprit?

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    Difficult to say. Aren’t thimerosal-containing flu vaccines recommended for pregnant women now?

  • Jim

    I don’t think its that difficult to guess. If x causes y, and you reduce x then there should be less of y. Unless of course the original premise is wrong. That being that x does not cause y.

    Perhaps that’s too simple of an explanation. If your saying that even the smallest dose of a mercurial compound is the cause of autism wouldn’t eating fish while pregnant or very young cause autism? Moreover, there are a variety of other foods and cosmetic products that have trace amounts of mercury as well. Even rain and runoff water near industrial areas may contain mercury. With all this mercury floating around, how can you be so sure that its the mercury in vaccines?

    Moreover, all this other mercury is different and more harmful than the mercurial compound used in vaccines. Comparing ethyl mercury which leaves the body shortly after vaccination compared to methylmercury which can be stored in the body for months as opposed to days, it should be clear that it isn’t the mercury in vaccines that are causing autism.

    Given all this information are you entirely sure its still the mercury in vaccines?

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    @cb0f5da9133f39897b6abf51deb3871b:disqus maybe I missed your response to this question: Aren’t thimerosal-containing flu vaccines recommended for pregnant women now? I think it needs to be considered for x.

  • Jim

    I don’t know. I suppose it depends on what jurisdiction you are in. Its recommended where I live. 

    I say that total exposure has gone down because there was always a preservative in batch flu vaccines but in the other single dose vaccines thimersol was eliminated or reduced to nothing.

    In essence, I guess you are agreeing that mercury exposure has been reduced but autism rates continue to rise. Ergo, x does not cause y.

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    Let’s clarify. You say … or the “scientific community says” ? Where are you getting your information from? Sources please.

    Thanks.

  • Jim

    You want sources that show that thimersol levels have decreased in vaccines?

    Did you just quote something that said that thimerosal was reduced to a point that it is biologically insignificant?

  • Khealeo

    Yeah, it really will be “awesome” ya dumb asse. By the way, in 1958 I contracted polio FROM A VACCINATION! Yeah, the past 54 years living with polio have truly been awesome. It was the fourth jab that got me. Take your vaccinations and stuff them where the sun don’t shine. As well, consider this, good old Dr. OZ, who just happens to be heavily invested in vaccination stock, is a HUGE fan of the H1N1 flu vaccine. But, not for HIS kids, just other kids.

  • Khealeo

    Yeah, it really will be “awesome” ya dumb asse. By the way, in 1958 I contracted polio FROM A VACCINATION! Yeah, the past 54 years living with polio have truly been awesome. It was the fourth jab that got me. Take your vaccinations and stuff them where the sun don’t shine. As well, consider this, good old Dr. OZ, who just happens to be heavily invested in vaccination stock, is a HUGE fan of the H1N1 flu vaccine. But, not for HIS kids, just other kids.

  • Karen

    Wow, I am so sorry you contracted Polio from the vaccine, but I know they say that there are no cases of Polio except via vaccine.  My sister got smallpox from the vaccine in the late 50s.  I will spare the details of it, but thankfully she is okay today.  They stopped giving the smallpox vaccine sometime just before my first child was born in 1969, thank the Lord.  I am so thankful that back then there were minimal vaccines because I was so uneducated about them at that time.  Didn’t even question.  If you want a sickening story just Google the history of the smallpox vaccine.  I just purchased a new book, Vaccine Epidemic by Louise Kuo Habakus, M.A. and Mary Holland J.D., found on Amazon.com.

    I am so disappointed to hear that Dr. Oz has stock in the HINI vaccine.  I don’t dispute your word, but will begin to research that information.  I do know that about a month ago I was watching his show and he had a massive replica of a lung on stage to show pneumonia.  He made the comment that getting your flu shot was the number one thing to do to prevent the flu.  I was totally disappointed in his statement because millions trust him fully. 

    I am so tired of “them” whoever they are, advertising the flu vaccine like it is a piece of candy.  One size does NOT fit all.  Just read the inserts of each brand of the influenza vaccines and you will ask yourself, why do I want to risk a shot over the flu?  Walgreens has a new ad out with a cute little, looks like hedgehog animal, telling you how important and easy it is to get the shot.  Well, here is just one statement taken directly from the Fluzone made by sanofi pasteur package insert Section 8.1 and I quote “Safety and effectiveness of Fluzone has not been established in pregnant women.”  How’s that for a reason not to take it?  Please, those of you who think we are crazy, DO YOUR RESEARCH.  Here is a good link to all the inserts:

    http://www.immunize.org/packageinserts/pi_influenza.asp

     

  • Karen

     Simply frightening! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    Jim Bob

    The biomedical treatments in the reversal and recovery regarding ASD ARE proven Jim Bob, you simply refuse to and fail to review the evidence. Just because mainstream must and does deny it, does not mean they are correct. They have not honestly even looked at it; as done properly those protocols are entirely safe, and quite effective. You are in intentional denial. Perhaps you would like to list your conflicts of interest? 
    As for shedding the light on the causal mechanism in autism related to vaccines, I gave you a link to the pages of my site which clearly contain the scientific studies and the information to make that more than an adequate connection. It is not just one vaccine that is the sole causation. There are clearly several mechanisms as to and in regard to vaccines that trigger the regression and ASD. The results in biomedical treatment and the at time varied protocols needed, and it being not a one size fits all, as well confirms it is heavy metals such as aluminum, vaccine contamination, viral overload, damage to the gut caused by the MMR, at times has been mercury involved as well. 

    I stated to you that all any of the mainstream promoted studies ever looked at was one vaccine and one ingredient; and yet you ignore that and still proclaim that all the needed studies are in. Why? Just because they told you they were? At what point are you thinking for yourself? At what point have you done any unbiased research? Obviously you haven’t; because even when it is put right in front of you, you ignored it. You should have seen all those studies and the aluminum adjuvant studies. Do you have even one single aluminum adjuvant safety study that you can reference to? An actual study. Good luck finding one, because as a fact none have ever been done. But yet you clearly have attempted here to tell me that the studies I put in front, are meaningless? Why has not the CDC followed up on any of that, and did further similar studies? The answer is that they already know what those aluminum adjuvants are doing.

    Where do you get any trust in a CDC that operated as it has in the past, and that has as well that much to lose, if they ever had to admit to the truth. It will NEVER come from them. Wake up! 

    I can and could shoot a large hole in every claim you have made here; but you know what; it would do no good, because you refuse to look at anything but with your CDC issued blinders on. You clearly refuse to think for yourself, and to even consider in honesty any other information than what you have been fed, and the lies and misinformation you were fed. In fact that the entire population for the last 100 years was fed. 

    You make claim to that you have no connection to vaccines; However, I find it to be highly likely that you do have a major conflict of interest in regard to something, and I do believe you have been less than honest about that. That level of and kind of nothing would be enough bias, normally does not exist any other way. 

    In the recent genetics as causation studies that I have recently seen; unknown to them what those actually point to is the aluminum adjuvant connection; and they do not even realize because they have ignored the nature of those studies as well.

    One of them is right here. But then I doubt that you took enough time reviewing anything, to even have a clue. It is really simple, once you see it, and it does not take any special training. All that is needed common sense, even an average ability to use critical thinking; and the ability to honestly and actually investigate it.

    Molecular Psychiatry advance online publication 11 September 2012;      doi: 10.1038/mp.2012.126

    Predicting the diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder using gene pathway analysis

    http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/mp2012126a.html

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    Argus,

    Wake up and actually read what has been put in front of you, Argus. What I stated was that the Tripdia insert is and was not found available on the Sanofi Pasteur site. I did not say it was not available by general search. In fact I linked to that insert right on and in my post. You will find it in the FDA link that the CDC links to off of their site. It is and was right in front of you. Are you actually that confused, Argus? 

    In fact more specifically Argus, when you go to the Sanofi Pasteur site, and you enter Tripedia in their search bar, it takes you directly to the Vitamin Shoppe.com site. Then to access the information you need to log in with a customer number, and that no parent nor public sector individual of course has any access to. So, why would that said pharmaceutical company not have any desire to provide a published copy of their vaccine package inserts, for public access? Maybe you have a some good explanation for that? I think it rightfully looks like this article is actually onto something.

    As well, if you are so smart and were actually correct about that, Argus; then WHY did YOU not link to that said insert yourself? Pretty easily done; if it were actually there. So much again, for your level of honesty and credibility. Of course drinking all that medical establishment, pharma, and CDC Koolaid; seems to all to often have that affect.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    The reason was because of the thimerosal, (mercury) issue; as to it being in the said vaccine, Argus. Do you actually think they did, and would have changed that without a reason? The reason was obvious. Oh I see; so the only reason for the change to an entirely different product was because it was replaced with newer products, and there was no problem at all with the thimerosal containing version? Sanofi Pasteur simply all on their own for no known reason simply changed the formulation, as a never product and no part of that decision had anything to do with thimerosal toxicity. And you actually expect anyone to believe that? Wow, how deep does that in denial of all fox hole, go?  

    The CDC and pharma got off the hook, and no one had any liability and no one went to jail; no matter how many children they irresponsibly and carelessly damaged by injecting those excessively high levels of mercury. They even got away with using up the remaining thimerosal containing vaccines they had left. The federal vaccine court denied it all, no matter how many families stood in their corridors waiting for justice and compensation. So, what would you care? There is nothing they will not and a can not deny. It’s all good, Argus; there is simply no problem there.

  • George

    John, That figure you mention is not anywhere in nor inferred in the article you linked. What they did say is that after controlling for variables the reduction in the death rate is not as significant as previously had been reported. They DID NOT say that it increased deaths, but I’m not reallt sure where you are going with this. BTW, could you link the article for –
    after five years your risk of Alzheimer Disease from multiple flu vaccines rises TENFOLD. I can’t find it but am interested in reading it, thanks.

    Lowell, Asking nurses if more people die after a flu shot is bias confimation. For example – ask them if there aremore injuries and accidents and even suicide attempts during a full moon. Invariably the answer you will get is a resounding “YES”. The reality is “NO”, statistics prove that there are actually less of all those evnts during a full moon.

    Alistair, The link you provided does in fact spraed doubt on the effectiveness of the flu vaccine in particular for the elderly. However, the scientific process demands follow-up and here is a link from the same site.
    http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/center/mission/articles/lancetidfluvax.html
    In short it is an analysis of previous studies and confirms that effectiveness for elderly people is not proven but it is for the young.

    Silver, not everyone who disagrees with you know each other at least they haven’t sent my membership to the secret society yet. If you know what it’s called could you let me know so I can apply? Further, to imply that the person who has trouble experssing himself politely must be Argus or someone he knows is beyong laughable, but I guess if you see conspiracies everywhere then “it must be true”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    Jim Bob

    The biomedical treatments in the reversal and recovery regarding ASD ARE proven Jim Bob, you simply refuse to and fail to review the evidence. Just because mainstream must and does deny it, does not mean they are correct. They have not honestly even looked at it; as done properly those protocols are entirely safe, and quite effective. You are in intentional denial. Perhaps you would like to list your conflicts of interest?

    As for shedding the light on the causal mechanism in autism related to vaccines, I gave you a link to the pages of my site which clearly contain the scientific studies and the information to make that more than an adequate connection. It is not just one vaccine that is the sole causation. There are clearly several mechanisms as to and in regard to vaccines that trigger the regression and ASD. The results in biomedical treatment and the at time varied protocols needed, and it being not a one size fits all, as well confirms it is heavy metals such as aluminum, vaccine contamination, viral overload, damage to the gut caused by the MMR, at times has been mercury involved as well.
     
    I stated to you that all any of the mainstream promoted studies ever looked at was one vaccine and one ingredient; and yet you ignore that and still proclaim that all the needed studies are in. Why? Just because they told you they were? At what point are you thinking for yourself? At what point have you done any unbiased research? Obviously you haven’t; because even when it is put right in front of you, you ignored it. You should have seen all those studies and the aluminum adjuvant studies. Do you have even one single aluminum adjuvant safety study that you can reference to? An actual study. Good luck finding one, because as a fact none have ever been done. But yet you clearly have attempted here to tell me that the studies I put in front, are meaningless? Why has not the CDC followed up on any of that, and did further similar studies? The answer is that they already know what those aluminum adjuvants are doing.

    Where do you get any trust in a CDC that operated as it has in the past, and that has as well that much to lose, if they ever had to admit to the truth. It will NEVER come from them. Wake up!

    I can and could shoot a large hole in every claim you have made here; but you know what; it would do no good, because you refuse to look at anything but with your CDC issued blinders on. You clearly refuse to think for yourself, and to even consider in honesty any other information than what you have been fed, and the lies and misinformation you were fed. In fact that the entire population for the last 100 years was fed.

    You make claim to that you have no connection to vaccines; However, I find it to be highly likely that you do have a major conflict of interest in regard to something, and I do believe you have been less than honest about that. That level of and kind of nothing would be enough bias, normally does not exist any other way.

    In the recent genetics as causation studies that I have recently seen; unknown to them what those actually point to is the aluminum adjuvant connection; and they do not even realize because they have ignored the nature of those studies as well.

    One of them is right here. But then I doubt that you took enough time reviewing anything, to even have a clue. It is really simple, once you see it, and it does not take any special training. All that is needed common sense, even an average ability to use critical thinking; and the ability to honestly and actually investigate it.

    Molecular Psychiatry advance online publication 11 September 2012;      doi: 10.1038/mp.2012.126

    Predicting the diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder using gene pathway analysis

    http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/mp2012126a.html

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    [Lowell, Asking nurses if more people die after a flu shot is bias confimation. For example - ask them if there aremore injuries and accidents and even suicide attempts during a full moon.]

    ————-

    No George, what you have there is DENIAL. REASON: Observation is observation, and the witnessing of what a person sees when it actually happens right in front of them, and then making denial of that it actually happened, is LYING. Lack of proper observation can also result due to lack of intellectual honesty, lack of critical thinking skills, ignornace, selective and biased reasoning ability; the refusal to accept the reality right in front of you; having a vested interest in denial of all; looking for any lame reason at all to make denial of all, etc.

    Children Who Get Flu Vaccine Have Three Times Risk Of Hospitalization For Flu, Study SuggestsScienceDaily (May 20, 2009) — The inactivated flu vaccine does not appear to be effective in preventing influenza-related hospitalizations in children, especially the ones with asthma. In fact, children who get the flu vaccine are more at risk for hospitalization than their peers who do not get the vaccine, according to new research that will be presented on May 19, at the 105th International Conference of the American Thoracic Society in San Diego.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090519172045.htm

    Effectiveness of trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine in influenza-related hospitalization in children: A case-control study

    Using the Cochran-Mantel-Haenszel test for asthma status stratification, there was a significant association between hospitalization in asthmatic subjects and TIV (p = 0.001). TIV did not provide any protection against hospitalization in pediatric subjects, especially children with asthma. On the contrary, we found a threefold increased risk of hospitalization in subjects who did get the TIV vaccine. This may be a reflection not only of vaccine effectiveness but also the population of children who are more likely to get the vaccine.

    http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ocean/aap/2012/00000033/00000002/art00003

    THE TRUTH ABOUT THE FLU SHOThttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHZcw4781cI

    The Truth About The Flu Shothttp://drtenpenny.com/the-truth-about-the-flu-shot/

    Flu Shots In Pregnancyhttp://drtenpenny.com/flu-shots-in-pregnancy/

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lowell-Hubbs/1285214003 Lowell Hubbs

    Hey Russell???

    After you get done going through all this, let me know what parts of it there are, that you can actually address and refute the information?

    The polio vaccine: a critical assessment of its arcane history, efficacy, 
    and long-term health-related consequences
    http://thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf

    The False Theory of Vaccine Derived – Herd Immunity
    http://www.vacfacts.info/the-false-theory-of-vaccine-derived—herd-immunity.html

    Smoke, Mirrors, and the “Disappearance” Of Polio
    Suzanne Humphries, MD
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2011/11/17/smoke-mirrors-and-the-disappearance-of-polio/

    Polio Vaccines Now The #1 Cause of Polio Paralysis
    http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/polio-vaccines-now-1-cause-polio-paralysis

    Indian J Med Ethics. 2012 Apr-Jun;9(2):114-7.
    Polio programme: let us declare victory and move on.
    Vashisht N, Puliyel J.

    Source:Department of Paediatrics, St Stephens Hospital, Delhi 110054, India.

    Abstract
    It was hoped that following polio eradication, immunisation could be stopped. However the synthesis of polio virus in 2002, made eradication impossible. It is argued that getting poor countries to expend their scarce resources on an impossible dream over the last 10 years was unethical. Furthermore, while India has been polio-free for a year, there has been a huge increase in non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP). In 2011, there were an extra 47,500 new cases of NPAFP. Clinically indistinguishable from polio paralysis but twice as deadly, the incidence of NPAFP was directly proportional to doses of oral polio received. Though this data was collected within the polio surveillance system, it was not investigated. The principle of primum-non-nocere was violated. The authors suggest that the huge bill of US$ 8 billion spent on the programme, is a small sum to pay if the world learns to be wary of such vertical programmes in the future.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22591873

    VRM: Polio Scam
    http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/?p=814

    Smallpox Vaccine: Origins of Vaccine Madness
    http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2010/02/26/smallpox-vaccine-origins-of-vaccine-madness/

    UNIVERSAL IMMUNIZATION
    Medical Miracle or Masterful Mirage
    By Dr. Raymond Obomsawin

    http://www.alternative-doctor.com/vaccination/obomsawin.html

    Toxic Vaccines? CBCD Sends Letter to FDA & CDC on Foreign DNA Fragments in Gardasil and MMR
    The CBCD sent a letter this past week to the offices of the FDA Commissioner, Dr. Margaret Hamburg,and to the offices of the CDC’s director, Dr. Thomas R. Frieden.

    http://www.gaia-health.com/articles101/000123-Vaccination-Facts-Tables.shtml

    The Medical Terror of Vaccinations
    Mark Sircus Ac., OMD
    http://www.alternative-doctor.com/vaccination/Cry_of_the_Heart.pdf

    Autism Epidemic, Is Foreign DNA in MMR II Vaccine Responsible? CBCD Suggests CDC Study Microcompetition Theory

    The Center for the Biology of Chronic Disease (CBCD) believes that the cause of the epidemic is the foreign DNA in the MMR II vaccine.

    http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/4/prweb9359508.htm

    Foreign DNA Fragments Cause Major Diseases
    http://www.cbcd.net/

    Phage in Live Virus Vaccines: Are They Harmful to People?
    http://www.sciencemag.org/content/187/4176/522.extract
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17769154

    And since 1975, do you think anything has changed to correct that situation? The answer is clearly, no.

    “Designer” Cells as Substrates
    for the Manufacture of Viral Vaccines
    http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/01/briefing/3750b1_01.htm

  • Argus

    The only thing I am confused about is why anyone thinks it is “disturbing” or even slightly news-worthy that two informational websites no longer list a document for a product that hasn’t been sold in over two years and can be easily found elsewhere for anyone looking for historical information.

    Using that as the lead paragraph for your article is downright deceiving.

    And deceiving is a form of lying.

    VACTRUTH – BIG LIES BUILT ON SMALL TRUTHS”

  • Jim Bob

    Lowell,

    I would like to point out the very common anti-vax tactic of attacking the person rather then the information. You assume I have a conflict of interest because I disagree with you instead of evaluating the evidence. Moreover, I haven’t presented any of my own scientific evidence only that of others so conflict of interest does not apply. Good effort though! If trying to discredit the reputation of an everyday joe helps further the lie that you are living… go on right ahead.

    Lets go back to the debate. You clearly have no understanding of scientific method and should therefore stop posting here as someone who claims to be informed. Your hypothesis is: vaccines cause autism. I continually ask what is the causal mechanism. You regurgitated the typical nonsense that has been disproven over and over again. I’ll mention it here for the sake of argument:

    1) MMR – measles in MMR causes gut inflammation which stops absorbtion of nutrients etc. which affects brain development. WRONG. No study has replicated this despite numerous attempts.

    2) Thimerosal – WRONG. Despite thimerosal being removed or reduced to insignificant amounts we continue to see autism rates rise.

    3) Aluminum – WRONG. Unfortunately, aluminum can also be found in breast milk and other sources consumed daily. How can you be so sure its the aluminum in vaccines that are causing autism? MOREOVER, you admit that there are no studies but you are so sure its aluminum because you have been brainwashed by the writers on this site and others.

    Ergo, your hypothesis is WRONG! This where your failure lies. Instead of using actual scientific method and revising your hypothesis, you keep the same hypothesis and try to throw in new causal mechanisms to explain it which carry NO weight. ZERO HONESTY on your part. An actual scientist would go back and reassess.

    You ask where I get my trust in the CDC. I don’t have to have trust in the CDC because EVERY other health agency in the WORLD agrees that vaccines don’t cause autism and are the single greatest medical achievement in past century.

    So when you tell me to wake up and stop lying to myself, I laugh. You and the anti-vax community are not heros or visionaries standing up to corporate greed. You’re more like a delusional Don Quixote attacking windmills thinking they’re giants.

    Anyways, Keep up the paranoia and the misinformation. Enjoy you’re evening watch x-files with your tinfoil hat!

  • http://vactruth.com Jeffry John Aufderheide

    If you keep repeating the same comment over and over again, you will be considered spamming the comments section. This is your last warning.

    Secondly, having the Johns Hopkins “Vaccine Safety” site, CDC, and the manufacturer removing vaccine inserts showing autism, SIDS, and a host of other adverse events as is extremely disturbing. Especially when health “experts” say there is no connection between autism and vaccines. Well – there’s a smoking gun for you. It’s on a vaccine insert… it’s a clue.

    So – whether you like it or not, it’s there. What’s strangely missing, though is admission of YOUR bias.

  • George

    I’m clearly missing the point here. If the insert is available in many locations online and you have documented it then why is it disturbing if a couple of websites take down said information? Further to this, one of your fellow ant-vaxers over at NVIC Barbara Loe Fisher claims that her group worked with Congress to set up Vaers and the vaccine court. So, do you disagree with this assertion and is she actually working against you? Colour me confused.

  • Mike

     Argus and Jim Bob, Here is a published paper by Dr Blaylock who is a board certified neurosurgeon, author and lecturer. His credentials most likely far exceed those of either of you.  This is just one published paper.  There are others.  Okay.  I don’t see why you need to continue this argument.  I’m not saying that the book is written or done.  All I’m saying is that this needs to be looked at from a more serious point of view.   It is quite obvious that the medical establishment has a lot invested in current vaccine technology and they are very interested in keeping those investments safe and profitable.  Unfortunately they are not as interested in keeping you and I safe!Go here: http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/ and click on published papers.  Please just read them..  There are many others out there.  I don’t have time to go and look up all of the other volumes of information for and against the argument again just for you guys.  I’ve already done my homework enough to at the very least question the safety of vaccines.  Enough to at the very least respect others like This site who are tying to get the information out there.  Now it’s time for you to do yours.  All I’m asking is that you take a look.  Thank You.

  • Mike

     Argus, Why do you seem to think that Jeffery is ” Trying to fool the uninformed into being concerned about it”?  And furthermore, who made you more “Informed” then the people reading this post?  That’s kind of presumptuous of you.  Actually it’s condescending and arrogant.  By reading what you have to offer it would seem to me that most of these people are very informed and concerned folks who can actually think for themselves.  If I could be quite honest, you seem to be the most uninformed out of all of the commentators. 

  • Taximom5

    @ Jim Bob, who wrote, “2) Thimerosal – WRONG. Despite thimerosal being removed or reduced to insignificant amounts we continue to see autism rates rise.”

    This is a stellar example of how the pharmaceutical marketing team pairs a half-truth with a lie, and it eventually gets repeated so often, people actually believe it.

    Let’s look at it more closely, shall we?

    Thimerosal was actually never “removed.”  That is an inaccurate way to phrase it. There’s your half-truth.

    Pediatric vaccines that had previously been preserved with thimerosal began to be produced in 2001 in single-dose, pre-loaded syringes, eliminating the necessity for the preservative.  However, the pharmaceutical industry continued to manufacture, sell, and distribute the older thimerosal-preserved, multi-use vials, and pediatricians continued to buy them, because, of course, they were cheaper.  They were still in common use in the US until at least 2004, with some reports of their usage as late as 2005.

    As far as continuing to see autism rates rise, well, shall we have a look at the official CDC autism rates?

    The official 2012 rate was announced by the CDC in April as 1/88.  This figure is based on studies done in 2008 on EIGHT-YEAR-OLDS, WHO WERE BORN IN 2000.  

    Anybody with basic math/logic skills can figure out that those are the children who received the HIGHEST number of thimerosal-preserved vaccines EVER in the US.

    There’s the lie, and it’s a biggie.  Calling it the “2012 autism rate” when it’s based on children born in 2000, and then claiming that the use of thimerosal-free vaccines would somehow affect these children in 2004 , when they actually got most of their (thimerosal-preserved) vaccines in 2000–well, there’s no other word for it.  It’s a lie.

    Funny how the push to redefine autism (which would result in much lower numbers of children being diagnosed with it) coincides with a drop in the use of thimerosal-preserved pediatric vaccines, though pregnant women ARE being given thimerosal-preserved flu shots, so infants are still being exposed, and even earlier. And the number of aluminum-adjuvanted vaccines has drastically increased, and there’s a link there, too, as the science shows.

    By the way, thimerosal-preserved vaccines are still being manufactured in the US, did you know?  They’re shipped off to developing countries–where autism rates are skyrocketing.  Imagine that.

    Nice job with the smoke-and-mirrors, though, trying to convince us that there is no link.

    Or were you fooled, too?

  • Dwza

    That’s awesome. I do the same thing. Oh yes ma’am, I’ve had several! I’ve never had a flu shot or the flu in my life. Ha!

  • Miss O

    Read this and the only thought that came to my mind was: 
    Next thing you know, they’ll be preaching at my door. 

  • thixotropic

    Go to RxList.com (http://www.rxlist.com/tripedia-side-effects-drug-center.htm), it still has the same information as the product insert. However, I went to the FDA site that showed just the product insert, and the refs. to autism and SIDS seems to have been removed. I didn’t have the time to read it closely, so check for yourselves: http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM101580.pdf

  • A mother

    Keep up the good work! I recently printed off that insert to show someone I know who insisted autism has nothing to do with vaccines….really? They admit it does right in the inserts!

  • daniel

    aids actually came from the first polio vaccine that came out in 1940″s from africa in a village were a dickhead man calling himself a doctor used live monkey serum in polio vaccine using african people as guinea pigs and thats how aids started full stop all vaccine are DANGEROUS full stop,ive lost a child through what I thought was SIDS these people are murders…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.m.kelly.79 Robert Morgan Kelly

    This is the section from the inlay I think this thread is about – ‘

    Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting. Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequencies or to establish a causal relationship to components of Tripedia vaccine.’ –

    This is not an admission to this vaccine causing autism, just that someone reported that is caused autism, no proof what so ever, one might as well claim that this vaccine turns you into a pumpkin.

  • Rena Mccollum

    That is because H1N1 has been linked to narcolepsy, and seizures bill gates sent his wonderful shots to Africa and children were becoming paralyzed and dying they finally told the U.S. they didn’t want their shots anymore. Did you see where Pierce Morgan went on Doctor Oz to prove that the flu vaccine didn’t give you the flu. Yeah Pierce Morgan in front of millions was sicker than a dog. When I was pregnant with my daughter who is 3 months old now the Doctor tried to persuade me I should get the flu shot when I refused she tried to tell me it doesn’t make you sick and that it is safe but I know better luckily I had been doing my research before she was born . I have 2 other children my 7 year old got extremely sick after his early vaccines I was always in the pediatricians office because of respiratory issues but then I never thought much about it , so as for my other 2 children they will not be vaccinated with this poison and it makes me so angry that pediatricians treat this like it is no big deal. I am so sorry that this happened to you , and I am thankful that people like yourself choose to speak out and speak the truth to help others . Thank you

  • Stuart

    Yeah mister mod you remove post about the truth (nice way for you come across as crazy)
    The product is no longer made it has been replaced with a different vaccine so why would a product that you can’t get anymore be on the FDA? Because they don’t need to warn or give out any information about an old product because nobody needs warning about something their not getting
    But sure you can say what you like but I’m just happy my country Australia is moving forward on cutting welfare to people that don’t get there child vaccinated.

  • joe
  • krs

    This accusation that the HIV virus emerged into the human population from a polio vaccine using monkey serum is just as ignorant and poorly informed as saying the HIV virus came from a man having sex with a monkey. Please do more basic research, and maybe actually study some microbiology before blindly believing those statements. If you want to read a book which puts this information on a very basic level and might help you understand how disease is actually transferred, then read The Viral Storm by Nathan Wolfe.
    Plus, this was an oral polio vaccine. If you know how the HIV virus works, it cannot be transmitted via the oral route. If the HIV virus from primates had mutated to infected humans via the oral route, then there would be millions more people infected with HIV.

  • Mitchell Davis

    Being so dim-witted and dishonest that you’re claiming a conspiracy whilst not knowing the difference between adverse events and adverse effects? Priceless.

  • Emvaz

    There is no way to scientifically prove that vaccines do or do not cause or prevent any disease. It would be unethical to undertake such an experiment, because vaccines contain ingredients known to cause cellular damage, which is why we rely on observational studies. Correlation can be determined, but never causation. But I’m sure you learned that in stat101…

    The package insert is referring to a correlation between the vaccine and autism. The fact that such a correlation exists makes the claim “there is no link between vaccines and autism” a lie. Period.